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Jan. 15, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Ep 658: Agent Provocateurs (w/ Jack Maxey, Raheem Kassam, Michael Yon, Jack Posobiec, Rudy Giuliani)
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rudy giuliani
09:21
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steve bannon
20:56
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don lemon
01:25
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jack maxey
01:12
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jack posobiec
02:48
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michael yon
03:21
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raheem kassam
03:35
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anthony fauci
00:07
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
You don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
That this is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room.
unidentified
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
don lemon
Think about the sides you're on.
I am never on the side of the Klan.
I am principal people, conservative or liberal, never on the Klan side.
Principal people, conservative or liberal, never on the Nazi side.
Principal people who are conservative or liberal, never on the side That treats their fellow Americans as less than.
That says that your fellow Americans should not exist.
That says your fellow Americans should be in a concentration camp.
Or that sides with slavery.
Or sides with any sort of bigotry.
unidentified
Right, and he's deluded.
He is a delusional president.
He is the most dangerous president in our history.
And it's imperative that he be restrained in a constitutional straitjacket.
for these next few days. And I think that, indeed, the people around him have moved to try to do that, especially the military people. They're not willing to go along with orders that would seem to be calamitous if they come about. He is restrained. But he is the gravest danger to the national security of the United States that any president has ever been.
He incited a riot, he incited an insurrection.
He's arguably, at least in the 21st century, you could say Timothy McVeigh for the 20th century, but he is the domestic terrorist of the 21st century in terms of the history of the 21st century.
If the president were able to somehow summon the I believe what I said last night.
Oh, absolutely you do.
But I'm saying, they look at this mob, they say, that's not me.
I'm nothing like those people.
I would never have done that.
They're all wrong.
Those people voted the way you voted and for who you voted for.
unless and until he says I lost the election and that he's been lying all along.
don lemon
I believe what I said last night.
unidentified
Oh, absolutely you do.
But I'm saying they look at this mob, they say that's not me.
I'm nothing like those people.
I would never have done that.
don lemon
They're all wrong.
Those people voted the way you voted and for who you voted for.
I'm just saying.
unidentified
Right, but just because you vote for the same people doesn't mean that you believe the same thing.
don lemon
It puts you in the same crowd.
Yes, it does.
unidentified
It puts you in the same group of people who voted for him, but you may not have the same reasons.
You may not have the same understanding.
don lemon
You vote for people who have common interests.
If someone has a common interest, people who vote like you have a common interest is you.
That's just how it is.
You don't vote for the most liberal person in the world because you're a conservative.
You vote for someone who shares your common interest.
That's how voting works.
unidentified
That's how political parties work.
don lemon
That's how political affiliation works.
unidentified
But it doesn't mean that a voter believes that their vote means what you think it means.
don lemon
Well, but it also means that you share something with that person and you must own up to it.
And we have to stop saying giving people an out.
For people who represent the worst behavior.
Stop trying to make an excuse for people who voted for someone who has those beliefs.
You may think that you don't believe that, but in a way, what you're doing, you're complicit with it because you are voting for the same type of person.
steve bannon
74 million of you out there, that's what the mainstream media and the establishment thinks of you and the people that represent you.
So we're going to play it every day at the beginning because remember, this is information warfare and economic warfare and the unrestricted warfare, the unleashing on the Trump voters, the Trump movement, the Republicans.
And people who just don't agree with them, okay?
They can't have rational debates, so they've got to have a kind of a psychological and information warfare.
They're already starting to lose it, and we're going to go through why they're losing it, because it's now all coming unwound, right?
About what really happened up at the Capitol, who was in back of it, who was prepared, who was training, etc.
We're live from the nation's Capitol, and I want to tell you something, we're going to get into this today.
This is a nation's Capitol that is an armed camp worse Then at the height of the Vietnam War, when you had million people rallies, I think as bad as the time when President Lincoln was taking his first inaugural.
In fact, there's more troops here than there was then.
I think you're going to have 20,000 troops by Sunday.
It is an armed camp from Capitol Hill all the way down Constitution Avenue, Pennsylvania Avenue, all the way to the White House, the Treasury Department and everything.
And on Independence Avenue, too.
It's pretty stunning.
We're going to get to why we're going to get to the question of Do we have more information today than they had eight days ago, nine days ago?
Right?
Why is this now a completely armed camp whereas on the 6th you had a couple of bicycle racks and essentially the Capitol Hill police who are very terrific people and do a job but it's a it's a It's a small police force that's there really to check IDs, etc.
Right?
You had a small Capitol Hill police force and a bunch of bike racks, and now you have essentially 20,000 troops.
And the central part of the governmental apparatus, all three branches, Supreme Court, legislative, and the executive branch, are basically a green zone.
That's where we are.
It's a green zone.
Okay, it's Friday, the 15th of January, the year of our Lord, 2021, and we're going to put out information and challenge the mainstream media.
Tell us where our facts are wrong, right?
You're pretty good at rhetoric, but tell us where the facts are wrong.
We present the facts.
We present the hard drive from hell, and you tell us it's rusting disinformation.
That's a lie.
Not that it's not a little bit wrong, it's just a flat-out lie.
unidentified
Okay?
steve bannon
Flat-out lie.
Peter Navarro, on his personal time, comes out with a third part of his analysis, right, which I think now, I think the total volume of is about 80 to 100 pages.
Detailed, technical analysis, state-by-state.
The Immaculate Deception, The Art of the Steal, and the last one, and of course, being very subtle as Peter Navarro is, Trump won, right?
The receipts, the evidence makes the case.
Whereas, we want John Berman and Allison Camerota, instead of clutching your pearls and wringing your hands with these furrowed brows, have Navarro on!
Have Navarro on and let him walk through it and you guys challenge her.
Even have him come up to CNN beforehand and do a pre-production meeting.
Have him go through it and see what you refute.
We'd love to see what you refute of this, okay?
John Frederick's Radio Network, Real America's Voice.
Look, it's one of the biggest If not the biggest podcast every night.
And by the way, podcast is the fifth.
All we do is put the show up in a podcast format.
We don't make a podcast.
We just put it up in a podcast format.
All of our other competitors have this, all these techniques of podcast.
We just put it up.
They can't stop the show.
Trying to shut it.
Why?
Because every day we're ahead of the curve of showing you what reality is versus this Twilight Zone as the, as the great Senator.
I think it was Bert Jones or Brandon Beach said yesterday, it's like a Twilight Zone.
Okay.
We're going to start now with Mayor Rudy Giuliani, and this is kind of part two of our interview.
Mayor, thank you very much for joining us today on War Room Pandemic.
And, you know, our interview the other day has gone viral.
Everybody's writing about it.
And the reason was that you were a little early, but you had gone through and done some amazing analysis that's now exploded this case.
Whereas the DOJ and the FBI came out the other day and had a press conference and said, categorically, there was no involvement of Antifa or BLM, or just flat out, this was all Trump supporters, Trump partisans.
We now know that that was either a mistake, and quite frankly, I gotta tell you, you can't make, knowing the information that's been out there as you expose, it's either a mistake or a lie.
Pick it.
Either a mistake or a lie.
Either a mistake or a lie.
unidentified
Okay?
steve bannon
It's just like, just like in Iraq.
It's either they're totally incompetent or they're lying to you.
Right?
They're either totally incompetent or they're lying to you.
They're either totally incompetent or they're lying to you.
Pick them.
Sir Mayor Giuliani, let's go through Your explosive report that you've been working on that proves the incompetence of the officials that have now made this an armed camp.
And I'd like the officials today at their one o'clock briefing to come out and just show us the receipts, show us what the actuality is.
If we have to be in a green zone, that's fine.
I have no problem with that whatsoever.
We're not changing our lifestyle up here or around here, not one iota.
But somebody's got to come forward and make the case why this is different than the evening of the 5th of January.
Okay, Mayor Giuliani, tell us the story you've been breaking on John Sullivan, and the deeper implications of that, and what it really means, and how big this aspect of Antifa and BLM and these kind of left-wing anarchists is going to get.
rudy giuliani
The explanation for this, these people are trained, very skilled agent provocateurs.
And I don't know if people remember that, I mean that's a term maybe from 20, 30 years ago.
But three or four of them Can effectively manipulate 3-4,000 people.
Right now, the best number we have that comes from a screenshot we picked up, I'm looking at it right now, is that 226 Antifa members were tasked with making that, what should have been a peaceful protest, a riot.
They're not the only ones.
There are two other groups that are involved as well.
But they are probably the best.
You see how well they execute it.
It's really pretty amazing.
They know what they're doing.
They know how to instigate.
They know how to create emotional moments.
They know how to get other people then to sometimes do the things that those other people get in trouble.
And then if the other people don't do it, they step in, they burn the flag, or they hit the person.
Here's what we have.
We have two organizational films in which they point out these tactics in advance.
We have four or five invitations to their entire membership to be there on the 6th to drive him out of Washington.
Now, I raise this question.
If I have a January 1st, January 2nd tweet, of which I have two, in which John Sullivan says, I'm going to drive Trump out of Washington.
It's time for him to go.
Isn't that sedition?
I mean, why wasn't that intercepted by our vaunted Protection of the President program?
That's a threat against the life of the President.
And he was on no list, as far as I can tell.
No one was watching him.
He was basically announcing, I'm coming here to take the President out.
You can't interpret that in some benign way.
You've got to give it the worst possible interpretation.
So, yeah, we have plenty of information where we should have been in the condition we're in now back then, except our Our intelligence agencies let us down once again.
And now the evidence is coming out by the reams that there were at least 200 Antifa people involved in this.
There were pre-planning meetings.
We have some evidence of that.
We've got a pretty good operation identifying them by face recognition.
And the no Antifa people are starting to become I would say they were the prime organizers of one-third of what was going on.
It seems to me this was divided between three groups.
Antifa, a white supremacist group that is anti-Trump, and a white supremacist group that appears to be pro-Trump, but were clearly involved in this in order to hurt Trump.
They knew the political consequences of this, so we've got to get to the bottom of that.
We're way ahead on Antifa.
We've got plenty on Antifa.
We got plenty on the second group.
We haven't put the whole thing together yet, but after all, we're not the FBI, but we're about five weeks ahead of them.
steve bannon
So, Mayor, hang on for a second.
We've only got two minutes in this segment.
I just want to be clear.
Didn't the DOJ and the FBI stand up in front of microphones a couple days, I think it was Friday, a week ago, and didn't they say absolutely there was no involvement, no involvement of Antifa?
They basically implied it's all Trump supporters, it's all pro-Trump, that there's no involvement of Antifa.
When you had Sullivan On the 1st and 2nd, or the 2nd and 3rd of January, tweeting out Jack Dorsey, tweeting out threats to the President to say we've got to run Trump out of Washington.
That was on the 1st or 2nd of January, sir?
rudy giuliani
The 1st of January was his first one, the 2nd of January they kind of merged together.
Now I know we're going to get in trouble with everybody, but if they were doing their job, that should have been flagged as a threat on the President.
He says I'm going to drive him out of Washington.
I did several threats on the president's cases, and I'm the guy who got Hinkley arrested.
So this is somebody who knows about threats on the president.
There's no reason, there's no excuse for him not to have been on a very short leash the minute he does that.
Now, maybe they missed it, maybe they didn't see it, but he didn't hide it.
I mean, this guy is a complicated guy.
unidentified
I think somehow in his warped mind, he wants to be a star.
rudy giuliani
After all, he did a one hour and forty minute tape of him committing crimes.
steve bannon
We're going to take a short commercial break.
I want to get the hand bill up because they had a rally point.
They said they wanted everybody to meet at 11 a.m.
at the Washington Monument for them to go to Capitol Hill.
Does the FBI not have that?
Is the Secret Service not have that?
Is the DOJ not have that?
Why has that not been investigated?
Okay, we're gonna take a short break.
We're getting the receipts on Antifa and BLM and their role in the riot on Capitol Hill.
We'll be back with America's Mayor Rudy Giuliani next.
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Two people who were there join us now, documentary filmmaker Jade Sacker and left-wing activist John Sullivan.
John, you filmed this moment on your phone.
Can you describe what happened?
Yeah so basically all the the protesters kind of stormed to get into the chamber.
We tried to get into like the main entrance right when you walk down the hallway but that being said nobody was able to get in because there's two guards refusing to move.
People there were not really wanting to hurt the police so like they went down a different alleyway.
They went to like the left of the main entrance of the chambers and then I took a ride down the hallway that and entered into that glass window scene that you see there are two there's about like four or five police officers right at the forefront.
And I remember just coming up and seeing 1 of them, like, crying, saying they want to go home to their kids and.
steve bannon
Didn't, before I bring the Mayor in, didn't Mayor, maybe I ask you or Rahim jump in, Mayor, correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't Sullivan already charged in Provo and out and CNN doesn't tell us that, he's just a left-wing activist?
He's already charged in this situation in Provo, back in June.
Do I hear up there on the chyron, Jeff Zucker, this is the scumbag nature of CNN, okay?
They've got an agent provocateur that now has federal charges on him, right, of being an agent provocateur.
He's up there interviewed by Anderson Cooper, they're producers, and here's what's stunning.
I don't want to make sure we're saying the fact, I don't want to overstate it.
That interview was done right off Capitol Hill.
He's already up on charges, correct?
Yes, sir.
In there.
I want to get back to Mayor Quirk.
jack maxey
Rudy talks about the two-hour video.
They quote him in the charging documents.
steve bannon
Rudy, this is what I don't understand.
In the charging documents about Sullivan.
CNN knew that.
The producers of CNN knew that.
The Anderson Cooper producers knew that.
And they put him up there as just some sort of, you know, Greenpeace type of nice left-wing activist.
Right?
He's a hardened criminal.
Is he not?
Are he for charges?
I don't want to overstate the case.
I just want to make sure of all the videos he was making, everything he was making on Provo.
rudy giuliani
Apparently they don't even bother to Google people.
You would have found that out as the second entry on Google at that time.
Criminal case against him.
He's charged with, pretty much charged with incitement to riot that led to the death of a human being.
It's an exceedingly serious charge.
And there's, I haven't been able to see all of it, but there's film of that similar to what we see here in Washington.
And there's a chance we have a pattern here, that the thing that went down in Utah has a lot of similarities to what went down here.
They put him on like... He's just a guy that was a bystander, another witness.
He's a major criminal.
Well-known agent provocateur.
Why that's not told to the public... I don't know.
And why he's not on a checklist, and a really short-lived checklist, from the day he walks into Washington, when he announces to you he wants to take out the president, is mind-boggling.
steve bannon
Mayor, given, I want to go back to the rally point about 11 a.m.
at the Washington Monument, because remember, people said this crowd was one of the biggest crowds they've ever seen, and now you're seeing it's a, it's a handful of people coming out of the, and when I say handful, maybe a hundred, maybe more than a hundred, but if you look at the list of the MAGA guys, I mean, they look like, you know, kind of civilians who are up here, or former military who are up here, but nobody looks like the Sullivan guys.
I don't want to put my prejudices on this about the guys on the left and guys on the right, but at the 11 a.m.
rally point, they're out in the open on Twitter, on Facebook, on organizing this thing to actually Throw the president out or to be, you know, their rally is not a peaceful rally.
It's not something to go celebrate the presidency or celebrate the ability to actually have a full accounting of this.
Like the November 12th, you know, we had a million people here then and we celebrated how peaceful it was.
These agent provocateurs and you're saying you think there's up to 225 or 226 now that you guys are going to be able to identify over a period of time?
rudy giuliani
That's the number that is given in a face shot by James Sullivan about how many his brother had organized, 226 actual members of Antifa.
You also have, like the communists used to have, you know, the hangers-on, the people who are associates.
No telling how many of those were there.
Also, there's an expert that we've employed, a general, Who is an expert on Chinese tactics that have been used in Hong Kong and elsewhere to instill these kinds of riots and get other people to do things that will get them in trouble.
And he's been able to identify at least four or five Chinese techniques that were used.
That hasn't even come out yet.
And there are a group of suspects who were involved in that.
This was a staged riot for the intended purpose of destroying Donald Trump one way or the other.
I mean, the language is simple.
Time to kick this fascist out of DC on January 6, 2020.
This is not our president.
Now, in there are words that, if we were to say that about Biden, right?
My Twitter account would be done away with completely if it hasn't been already.
And the FBI would visit me a few minutes later and say, come on down for questioning for threatening the life of the president.
They might even try some kind of a I mean, these are crimes here.
with it, he's not our president. I mean, these are crimes here. I investigated threats on the president with language milder than that.
When I, threats on the president are treated as they should be, very severely. I'm gonna kick the fascists out of Washington on January 6, 2020.
steve bannon
Mayor, hang on one second.
This is what I think people can't figure out and you're going to have to help us figure it out.
And this is why Chuck Schumer is not going to have a trial in the Senate.
Because this is all going to come out, this is going to blow up in the Democrats' face.
This is going to blow up in their face because Rudy Giuliani is going to be sitting there showing you the evidence.
Number two, you're going to get to be able to go through state by state and make them eat all the lies they've been telling about this election on a state by state basis.
They don't want it.
And they can't change the rules enough in a trial to stop Donald Trump's representatives from putting forth evidence and witnesses.
This is why, Schumer, eventually they're going to run from it, because every day... Now, Rudy, you've been one of the senior guys in law enforcement in this country.
You're admired by everybody in America.
Maybe I qualify that.
But, why did the DOJ and the FBI, you've had a small team of super professionals, and we're going to have Michael Yan here, our in-studio host, co-host today, come on the next segment with Pasovic, but you've done a small team of professionals.
They've got the entire apparatus of the law enforcement and intelligence apparatus.
How can DOJ and the FBI FBI stand up there and say, hey, this is all these bad guys associated with Trump, bad guys associated with Trump, and you, with just a little bit of time and a little bit of resources, have now broken this thing wide open and blown it up in CNN's face.
How can the American people trust them if they come up and say, absolutely no Antifa?
rudy giuliani
The fact is, you're right, we're a small group, but we're, they're very skilled professionals, all of whom have done exceptional cases in the past.
They have instincts that are incredible, and they're honest and dedicated and willing to draw the right inference from what you see.
They're also willing to look on Google and find out about his record.
I don't know what's wrong with our law enforcement agencies for the last five years, but the FBI, it's one missed opportunity after another, almost to the point of thinking maybe there's an obstruction of justice going on.
So, if we could have the resources of the federal government I mean, I said this two years ago.
I could have had Biden indicted, convicted, and imprisoned by now.
A year before the election, I had the evidence then that he was involved in the Ukraine bribery.
Since then, it's become a lifetime of bribery that we can prove when we got the hard drive.
How is it that we got the hard drive?
Why did the man give it to my lawyer and me?
unidentified
Because the FBI had it for a year and did nothing with it.
rudy giuliani
And he knew it contained evidence of crime.
A regular citizen in Delaware said, what's going on with the FBI?
I can figure out the crimes by listening to this.
As a last minute thing, he gave it to me.
He felt I was the only person who would have the courage to put it out.
steve bannon
Mayor, we've got about two minutes.
Just tell us, where is this going to go from here?
We know that now you're getting this evidence out there, the public's starting to see it.
Where does your team on this investigation go from here?
rudy giuliani
Well, I think we're going to expand it.
We haven't even talked about the increasing evidence of voter fraud.
Arizona is now involved in making a settlement, and we might very well have all those materials by next Tuesday.
A little late, but still not too late for history.
Same thing in Georgia.
There seems to be a real crack through in getting the evidence.
This can be six months from now.
This will not even be a debate.
We will have shown that this was the biggest voter fraud in the history of this country and that the wrong man is in the White House.
It would be a terrible thing for this country, but in order to make sure it never happens again, we have to pursue that.
We're not stopping on January 20th because we owe it to America to point out how we had our presidency stolen from us so it can never happen again.
And I think you're going to see increasing evidence about foreign players.
steve bannon
Okay, Mayor, I know your podcast is almost overtaking the War Room, but we still like promoting you.
Tell us about the podcast.
When does it come up?
When's the next one?
Your radio show is every afternoon, I think, at three o'clock, WABC, up in New York.
A fabulous show, you've got to listen to it.
Rudy's Common Sense.
When's the next podcast come out, sir?
rudy giuliani
Today, about 5.36 today.
You get it on Rudy'sCommonSense.com.
steve bannon
Mayor Giuliani, thank you so much.
I know you're incredibly busy today, but just thank you so much.
rudy giuliani
It's always very, very valuable.
Very, very valuable and a very courageous thing you're doing.
All you guys.
I love you guys.
Jack and Raheem.
If it wasn't for them, you'd be nobody.
unidentified
We love you too, Mayor.
steve bannon
And more importantly, the audience loves you.
raheem kassam
By the way, Rudy coming in hot with the strong contender for 2021's National Pulse Man of the Year.
steve bannon
He's already won January.
unidentified
Mayor Giuliani, thank you very much.
steve bannon
Thanks to the team.
Okay, we're gonna be back with Michael Yan, Jack Posobiec, Bernie Kerik, everybody, Raheem Kassam, Jack Maxson, we've got so much to go through here.
In the, um, a capital.
I guess it's under siege, right?
It's an armed camp.
Return in a moment.
unidentified
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I'm giving you a hug now.
We did it!
You were right!
We did it!
Dude, I was trying to tell you.
I couldn't say much.
You were right!
You just have to watch my channel.
Is this not going to be the best film you've ever made in your life?
That's it.
You weren't recording, were you?
I was.
steve bannon
But I didn't record you or me.
unidentified
It was just voices.
steve bannon
Okay, Raheem, I want to bring in Jack Busso, we've got Michael Young, the Great Combat correspondent.
I want to explain to the audience, Raheem Kassam, what exactly did we just see?
raheem kassam
Well, in a lot of senses, and I'm watching the live chat, a lot of the audience has been looking at this overnight as well, but for those that aren't necessarily up to speed on it, there you're hearing footage from inside the rotunda, the Capitol Rotunda.
of of uh... you know this guy you you know goes by many different names uh...
john sullivan jayden acts all of these different names online and you're hearing him telling a documentary filmmaker who they allege was following him around to make a documentary about his organization insurgents usa the cnn put on uh... without checking who they were and it was quite obvious on the website who they were by the way if they just went to his website But you hear them, and you hear him specifically saying, hey, uh, I couldn't tell you in advance.
You gotta read my chat.
He appears to be referencing his Discord chat channel.
It's a private chat channel for his friends, his members of his organization.
And then she says to him, hey, uh, you aren't recording this, are you?
He goes, yeah, but I'll edit all of this out.
And that goes to prove, I mean, especially given who this is, this Jade Sackler woman, uh, she has provided documentary filmmaking services to a whole host of establishment media organizations.
And in fact, I think one of her latest films, uh, one of her advisors, who's listed as a film, recently got an endorsement by none other than Hillary Clinton.
steve bannon
Jan, jump in here.
When Rudy says agent provocateurs, that is something we're used to hearing from the train to the Finland station, right?
This is Bolshevik.
These are Bolshevik terms.
What are agent provocateurs and why does Rudy call John Sullivan, in his like, agent provocateurs?
Jack, let's start with you and we'll come back to Jan.
jack posobiec
Well, Steve, an agent provocateur is essentially a chaos actor.
That is someone who's coming into a situation and has the tools, the training and experience to be able to whip that situation up, particularly when it comes to one of these mass protests like this, one of these demonstrations, and be able to guide it towards their own Ends towards their own intentions their own objectives and what's key on this and I think that I haven't heard anyone say this yet On the show today, but that this guy was directly involved
in the shooting of Ashley Babbit that horrific shooting that we all saw he was there He told police to stand down the police did stand down He then urged the crowd to incite and to attack those doors doors of the speakers lobby he said go go go you can hear it in part on his tape and if this is in the d o j charging document that you get they have right there following that moments later she shot and killed
steve bannon
what what he didn't did it back to provo didn't do the exact kind of thing in provo is that the is in the estimate of the same exact ammo from him in the past how to cnn jeff suckers got a step in front of my co-founder How does CNN not know this?
How do they put a lie in front of the American people?
Do you understand if War Room had done that, by the way, if War Room had done that, would they come and shut us down immediately?
Why is Jeff Zucker and Anderson Cooper and Camarado and Berman, instead of pearl-clutching in the morning, why don't you look at your own network?
You're putting up guys who have already been indicted for causing the same type of thing that happened on Capitol Hill, and all you put him up as is a left-wing activist.
No, he's an agent provocateur.
Jan, you deal with these guys all the time.
This concept of accelerationist and agent provocateurs.
What's an agent provocateur for our audience?
michael yon
Right, AP's or agent provocateurs.
That's one of the first things I look for when I go into these situations.
As you know, I've been in many wars and conflicts.
Iraq, Afghanistan, Nepal, Philippines, Thailand.
Just got kicked out of Hong Kong last year.
So, the day before this happened, I put on Twitter that I expect a 90% chance of violence.
It was very obvious.
So, I was at the Ellipse for the speech, then proceeded over to the Capitol, noticed immediately, where's the police?
Where are the barriers?
Nothing here.
This is like an Atlanta Airport runway straight to the Capitol with lights flashing, basically.
There were APs right from the beginning.
There were numerous cells.
One of the first things I do when I go into these is look for cells, look for Cell markers and that sort of thing.
You know, markings on helmet.
One guy had an ACAB on his helmet, which means all cops are bastards.
That is Antifa.
If you see ACAB, that says Antifa.
So there were clear Antifa cells.
As you know, I've been out in Portland and other places all over the United States with MAGA, with Antifa.
steve bannon
Let me say this.
Pesovic, between Seattle and Portland, I probably got the two guys, maybe a few more, but probably between you and Jan, I've got two of at least the top five guys who are out there reporting with non-mainstream media, giving it back.
Was it obvious to you guys that what had happened in Portland was happening here?
michael yon
Oh, clearly.
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, I was just out in Portland.
Sorry, Jack.
That was absolutely... For instance, out in Portland, that's basically their C-team.
That's your meth heads out there on the streets, purple hair guys, that sort of thing.
But the ones who hit the Capitol, that's Antifa A-team.
That's like their special forces.
They're smarter, they're more organized, they pre-planned it, it was all over their social media.
For instance, John Earl Sullivan, I may have been on the same flight with him from Salt Lake.
I just came from Salt Lake.
You know, he has a website called Insurgents USA.
I mean, he was very... How does CNN miss that?
Uh, no.
steve bannon
Does that look like a... Insurgents USA, is that like a... Go ahead, Jack.
jack posobiec
No, they didn't miss that on CNN.
I want to be very clear.
If you go back to that clip on CNN with Anderson Cooper, it has listed in the chyron that he's the founder of Insurgents USA.
It's like, do they even know what the... Do the interns at CNN or the producers even know what the word insurgent means?
steve bannon
Well, here's the thing.
How does...
I'll start with Jan and then come back to Jack.
How does the DOJ and the FBI stand up in front of microphones last week and make it look like it's all Trump things?
How does Liz Cheney, did they not get briefed on Capitol Hill?
How does Liz Cheney stand up and refer to the Trump people as a mob, right, when this stuff was so out in the open?
The organizing was on Twitter, on Facebook, on other, you know, the tech oligarchs have no problem with letting these left-wing guys organize this and say, meet at the Washington Monument.
We're going to march at 11 o'clock and we're going to march up.
They're not there to listen to the President's speech.
The President has a schedule.
He doesn't even step on the stage until 11 and he didn't really step on the stage until noon.
They were ready to roll an hour beforehand.
Jan, first off, how did they miss it and then Pasovic?
michael yon
Well, it can only be at best incompetence.
I mean, for instance, there are easily identifiable cells, some of which we've named Arch Lady Cell, Lucky Charm Cell, Helmet Hole Man Cell.
There were other cells, there was at least one clear breaching cell.
There were other cells that we haven't identified.
For instance, while John Earl Sullivan was part of a cell, he was clearly there with Helmet Hole Man Cell.
When Ashley Bobbitt was shot and killed, we can see Helmet Hole Man, the guy that's smashing the window in with his Kevlar.
He's holding three hats at one time, one's a MAGA hat, one is that bear hat that you can see him wearing, and the other is the Kevlar helmet.
He's got all three in his hands.
And he went, after he smashed the window in, Ashley took the bait.
He was an agent provocateur.
She took the cape and went through the chute and got shot.
steve bannon
He's the one bashing the window.
He's an agent provocateur from Antifa and BLM, that type of left-wing guy?
michael yon
Jaden X, which is General Sullivan, he was only making the video, right?
But he's clear, you can see him earlier with Helmut Hohlman, the guy that smashes the guy with the bear hat.
He had three hats.
After he smashes through Ashley Bobbitt takes the cape and she rushes through the breach, gets shot.
It's a perfect movie take for an AAP operation, right?
Now, he immediately goes downstairs with those riot police.
We've got it on video.
You can see him.
We've isolated it.
He's down there changing clothes.
Tactics straight out of Hong Kong and other places.
Hong Kong tactics were evident.
As you know, I spent seven months with the fighting out in Hong Kong until they kicked me out, right?
And so, many of the tactics that we saw, for instance, with Arch Lady Cell, Arch Lady was a lady out on the arch with a megaphone, you know, saying, come forward, send masks.
We saw many AP cells saying, come forward, there's plenty of room, go this way, helping people up over obstacles, setting up those bike racks as ladders.
You know, there were clear cells that were operating in tandem.
steve bannon
Posoba, answer this question for me.
Go ahead, go ahead, jump in.
jack posobiec
Well, I actually want to just double down on what Michael is saying there to a bit because, Steve, you remember the day after that happened, I came on here and I described seeing exactly what Michael is talking about.
I called it agitators because I knew that it was people in nondescript clothing, they were wearing green ponchos, there was one guy with a red beard and that's exactly what they were saying.
They were going up to people in the crowd saying, you've come this far, you can't stop here, you have to move forward, you have to go forward.
steve bannon
How does our, but here's the thing, how does the law enforcement apparatus not know that?
How do they not know?
Is this incompetence?
Because there's something weird going on up here that a week ago, they had bike racks over around the Capitol, right?
And down by the U.S.
Grant statue on the west side, nothing up here, except up near the Capitol.
And you had a couple of Capitol Hill police, and that was it.
And today, you have a green zone in Baghdad, right?
It's literally locked down with 20,000 troops.
raheem kassam
Can we be a bit more specific about that?
I mean, I'm walking here this morning from two blocks away and as I walk down this street to get into this room, a policeman gestures at me with, I don't know what this gun was, but it is absolutely massive and green and he's like, hey, can I help you?
unidentified
I, you know, my instinct was almost to be like, can I help you?
raheem kassam
You're in my neighborhood!
I'm a resident here!
I'm a taxpayer here!
steve bannon
It's Checkpoint Charlie all around.
By the way, we have absolutely no problem with that so ever.
But, somebody has to come up and say, exactly, why is the threat so much bigger, like, today than it was on the evening of the 5th?
jack maxey
There's something entirely missing from this narrative that goes along with what, everything we've watched in the last ten days, the censorship.
To what extent does Big Tech bear responsibility for everything that happened last week, everything that has happened over the last year, and the burning and destruction of this country?
Why?
Because we know John Sullivan used Big Tech to organize his militancy.
We've seen this over and over again.
They use Twitter.
They use Facebook.
Why aren't they being taken care of?
unidentified
But that's okay.
raheem kassam
He's been kicked off.
His web host has kicked him off, right?
No.
Discord has kicked him off, right?
No.
Nothing's been taken down!
steve bannon
Is his Twitter account been taken down?
raheem kassam
Jack, what's the latest?
steve bannon
Is his Twitter account still up?
jack posobiec
Uh, one of his Twitter accounts is down, but two of them are still up.
I mean, you can actually go to a lot, and the same with Instagram, some down, some up.
You can go to a lot of this guy's social media, still up.
raheem kassam
Which is actually- Okay, you said that Jeff Zucker had- You said Jeff Zucker had to go before a microphone today.
No, he has to resign today.
If this happened to anybody else at any other network, they would be calling for the head of the network to resign.
steve bannon
If it happened at Fox.
Okay, here's the thing.
At one o'clock today, it's going to be CYA.
You know, Ray's briefing the President.
I'm hearing all this stuff.
Ray's briefing the President.
They're going to have a big thing today.
You know why they're briefing the President?
Because of Bernie Kerrick and Rudy Giuliani and Michael Yan and other guys that have put in their face their incompetence and or their lies.
This is the whole reason they're coming out today.
This is a CYA.
You ain't gonna hear much that you haven't heard on The War Room 48 hours ago, okay?
This is ridiculous.
If this thing is this bad, then we ought to come forward and people ought to talk about it, and we ought to go through back the link, the information, and when it was known, right?
And if it was even a scintilla Of what it is today on the 5th, the question has to be, why didn't we have the security apparatus here at the time?
So the agent provocateurs couldn't get in here.
And Rudy's very simple, he's not putting all the blame on Antifa and BLM, but I gotta tell you, let's go through American history.
In June, this city burned down and there was nothing done about it.
This city burned down, Portland burned down, Seattle to a degree, but Washington D.C., nothing happened to it.
Right?
Nothing.
And now we've got to find out and understand why this has become the green zone of Baghdad.
You know, Steve Doocy's up there crying on Fox & Friends, this is so terrible.
Let's not cry about it, let's get to the facts and find out what is going on and why.
We'll return with Pesovic, Yan, Kassam, Maxi and Bannon in a minute.
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Folks, don't get overwhelmed by the mainstream media and what looks like this beatdown.
It's all phony.
It's all phony.
You can see that by CNN.
And guess what?
We're winning.
You can tell.
This is the rally point and we're winning.
Because of the lies and the misrepresentation.
And here's how I know we're winning.
The Rasmussen tracking poll has always been a very solid tracking poll.
Day in and day out from the 16 campaign.
Not Scott Rasmussen.
I love Scott, but he's not there anymore.
But the Rasmussen, I think it's the Rasmussen reports.
Mr. Jack Posobiec, what do your sources tell you about the overnight On the Rasmussen tracking poll, sir?
jack posobiec
Right, so the overnight is a poll that doesn't get posted publicly because what they do is they do a three-day average of the overnights and bring that in together.
So the three-day average right now has ticked up to 48%, but the overnight, just the overnight from last night to tonight, is now up to 51.7% approval for President Trump.
What we're actually starting to now see is the exact same dynamic we saw a year ago, was that as impeachment ticked forward, as the impeachment move started going, the president's approval rating started to go up.
And if you dig deeper into the actual impeachment numbers, you can see it is a vastly partisan split, 50-50, with even 50% of independents saying that President Trump should not be removed from office Because of last week's protest and riot at the Capitol.
steve bannon
They can't help themselves, because they don't have the discipline of the media to discipline them, so they can't help themselves to their overreach.
Once again, sources are telling Jack Basobic, the Overnight, which is never published, they published a three-day rolling average.
unidentified
The three-day rolling average is up to 48 percent.
steve bannon
It's 51.7 percent approval.
John Berman is very smart, and Allison Camerata, these are smart anchors.
I may not agree with their politics, but they're smart.
Why are they sitting there?
And why does McCormick the other day browbeat Jordan?
It's all the same mantra.
You must.
The healing will start.
The unity will start.
When you say that there was no theft in this election, when you say Joe Biden's legal and legitimate, right?
When you say he won with McCormick browbeating during the struggle session with Jordan, when he won fair and square, the healing will start.
The unity will start.
No, no, no, no, no.
The unity will start when the Democrats start coming forward and answering questions about this.
And now we've got them on this, on this, on what is this security apparatus and why are we at DEF CON 1, right?
And maybe we should be at DEF CON 1.
Hey, I'm a former military guy.
If you got it, walk us through it.
And maybe some of the stuff is so highly classified you can't, but you at least got to walk you through.
I think that's what they're going to do today.
They're going to do that today at one o'clock.
They're going to try to.
And that's fine.
They should do that.
But part of it is this audience you're forcing.
This is a forcing function.
You're forcing them to come out.
And I got to tell you, because of Michael Yan and Bernie Kerik and Rudy Giuliani and others on that team, you now have exposure of the lie.
There was definitely a coordinated effort of agent provocateurs from Antifa and these radical groups.
And Rudy's not saying that was all of it.
He said that's about a third.
You had a third from these other nationalist groups, and you had another third from the nationalist groups that don't like Rudy, or don't like the President of the United States.
These are particularly guys that are very anti-Semitic, don't like what we did to move the capital to Jerusalem, and all the support we have of Israel, right?
They hate that.
Right?
And then you've got another group that's... and then you've got the Boogaloo Boys and all that.
But at least you do have a presence of Antifa and these agent provocateurs.
And it was quite open.
People understood it, particularly sophisticated people.
And CNN spun it the exact opposite way.
That these are just left-wing activists, right?
And gave them plenty of air time.
Yes, sir?
raheem kassam
Yeah, but look, CNN is just the propaganda arm of the rest of it all, right?
And look...
If this is happening in Belarus or in Ukraine or in Tunisia, whereby all these troops are being deployed to the nation's capital and there hasn't been an open and transparent rationale behind it, Liz Cheney would be calling for the United States to invade!
and secure for the sake of democracy everything that is going on right now whether it's parlor being taken down whether it's the spin that's going on your television sets on CNN and beyond where it's the people out on the streets it is designed to demoralize and the demoralization operation of all of this is designed We are never going to submit.
We are never going to submit.
That is the purpose of this show.
unidentified
The purpose of the show, and now you're seeing people starting to wake back up.
raheem kassam
of this and that's the way they secure their quote unquote victory.
steve bannon
We are never going to submit.
We are never going to submit.
That is the purpose of the show.
The purpose of the show and now you're seeing people starting to wake back up.
I understand there was a couple of bad days but we'll work through this.
Isn't this exactly what Darren Beatty said on here a couple months ago?
Isn't this a color revolution?
Mr. Raheem Kassam, is that what we're going through?
unidentified
This is exactly what a color revolution looks like!
raheem kassam
It is a lack of information, a spinning of false information that turns out after a couple of days, a couple of weeks.
And by the way, an immense credit and thank you to every single citizen reporter out there who's been digging through these archives of videos and pulling things out and sharing them.
Thank you for being hardworking and brave and tireless about this thing.
unidentified
That's what a color revolution looks like.
raheem kassam
Now, I'm not saying that we've seen a coordinated strategy to get their way by any one person at the moment, but hey, all of the apparatus are moving together on all of the same narratives, and that's what you need to look for.
jack maxey
The guys in Wyoming from the Republican GOP yesterday, they made a very clear statement about this, what I love about Wyoming, I spent a bunch of summers up there in Cody as a kid, These are good, solid people and they don't mince words, they don't waste time with a lot of fancy talk.
What do they say?
Representative Cheney has aligned herself with leftists who are screaming that what happened last Wednesday is the worst thing ever in our history.
That is absurd and shows their lack of knowledge of history as well as their willingness to skew the facts to further their own corrupt agenda.
steve bannon
This is the point.
The guys at Wyoming nailed it.
Is this worse?
Than in March of 1861?
Is this worse than... We are more of an armed camp today than when Lincoln gave his first inaugural address.
And remember, ladies and gentlemen, I think we'd already had six or seven states succeed from the Union.
We were within four weeks of a shooting war, right?
You're telling me that we are... this is worse today than it was then?
Au contraire.
You're gonna have to show that.
Okay?
You're gonna have to show that.
We're going to call you out every day and we're not going to back down one inch.
And here's why they hate it.
Because we're always right.
We're always right.
And we dare any group of professionals, we dare any media to come here and invite us here.
We'll play road games and show the evidence we've got on this and the evidence we've got on the steal.
You can't handle the truth.
Right?
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
Jack, We would love you to hang around.
I need Pasovic.
We're going to bring in, about Wyoming and Liz Cheney, the first guy that stepped up to primary one of the Week 10.
Tom Norton from Michigan is going to be on next on War Room.
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