Jan. 12, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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War Room, War Room, War Room, War Room, War Room, War Room, War Room, War Room, War Room, War Room, War Room, War Room, War Room, War Room, War Room, War Room, War Room, War Room, impeachment. | |
| You With Stephen K. Bannon, Jason Miller, and Raheem Kassam. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| you Live from the nation's capital. | ||
| Yes, it is War Room Impeachment. | ||
| We're back to the beginning. | ||
| You're in the War Room. | ||
| It's Thursday, the 12th of January, the Year of Our Lord 2021. | ||
| It's Impeachment Week. | ||
| We start with a 25th Amendment today, Play Me or Trade Me, and then we go right into impeachment. | ||
| Honored to have back the original. | ||
| We got to band his back together. | ||
| Jason Miller is in as our co-host today with Raheem Kassam. | ||
| And seriously, we'll get to all that, you know, we'll talk about alumni, but this is actually a very serious, you know, we're still warring pandemic. | ||
| We just wanted to play that as alumni. | ||
| And we've got Jason, we have Steve Cortez, we have Boris Epstein, and then we have Darren Beatty on his exclusive interview with the Gap CEO. | ||
| Very dangerous week. | ||
| Here, you know, in any other time except for our Trump presidency, to have a movement on the floor of the House to basically invoke the 25th Amendment and really kind of call out the Vice President of the United States. | ||
| Hey, if Trump doesn't resign or you don't implement the 25th Amendment, we're automatically going to an impeachment. | ||
| And here's the articles of impeachment. | ||
| Here's the article of impeachment already. | ||
| I mean, it's full on smash mouth with people talking about unifying the country and pulling the country back together. | ||
| Hey, we're saying we're up front every day. | ||
| The country's not unified, but the country hasn't been unified before, you know, but things happen. | ||
| This is how you got to work through these issues. | ||
| So and I know you get a lot of polling. | ||
| You've been in the field doing that, but I want to have a reset with you because I called you. | ||
| Back in October of 2019 on a Saturday, I said, hey, we're going to be launching a show here on Monday for a test run, and then we're going to go national on Tuesday on Facebook and the John Fredericks Radio Network. | ||
| And you said, I'm in. | ||
| And at the time, people kind of mocking us and ridiculing, oh, it's not going to be an impeachment. | ||
| That's fake news. | ||
| It's not going to happen. | ||
| And I talked to you and you said, oh, yeah, it's absolutely going to happen. | ||
| He's going to get impeached by Pelosi sometime in December. | ||
| There'll be a trial either right before Christmas or right afterwards. | ||
| So we're back to the beginning. | ||
| And on top of that, remember what that first fight was about, about holding Republicans together, about making sure the Republicans were willing to stand in the breach, that we were on the right side of not just the law, but on the right side of history, that this was a complete witch hunt. | ||
| They've been going after him since before he was even inaugurated. | ||
| Remember the Logan Act? | ||
| Remember Joe Biden screaming the Logan Act? | ||
| Remember Comey? | ||
| Remember the Russia witch hunt? | ||
| I remember you and I sitting there, we were in Mar-a-Lago, and they had the Chiron that showed CNN on the morning that they had the Russia thing, and they said, Obama throws out 31 guys for interference in the 2020 election. | ||
| And we're looking at each other and said, where did that come from? | ||
| And Reince called the Chief of Staff and said, hey, what is the thing of this? | ||
| Who made that decision? | ||
| Did Obama make that decision? | ||
| That is in the first four weeks. | ||
| Of Trump as President-elect. | ||
| The nullification project started the first day. | ||
| And I think what we've really seen here with the, we're going to also get into big tech today. | ||
| I know you have the CEO of Gab coming on and we'll be talking through this. | ||
| I have some polling on that as well. | ||
| But this is, I think what's been clear over this past week, this isn't just about President Trump. | ||
| This is, in fact, I saw Chuck Todd was on the Today Show a couple days ago talking about the Wall Street Journal editorial page, and he said, they're not quite never Trump. | ||
| You know what it is? | ||
| It's a never populism. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| It is a complete effort to nullify the populist movement, not just the United States, globally. | ||
| They're coming after us. | ||
| And if you're one of the 75 million people who voted for President Trump, they want to silence you, de-platform you at a personal level. | ||
| Well, they want to put fear. | ||
| This is what the show is so powerful in. | ||
| The numbers just start to keep exploding. | ||
| And the reason is, is we're not going to back down, right? | ||
| We're not going to back down. | ||
| I understand a lot of people depressed. | ||
| Some people are afraid, you know, just hang together. | ||
| We're going to be the tip of the spear to get through here and we're not going to we're not going to back off. | ||
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Right. | |
| They're trying to destroy the president. | ||
| And they're particularly this whole and I want to get into it later. | ||
| This whole impeachment effort in the trial is to make sure he's not eligible in 2024. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They want to take him right off the charts. | ||
| But it's not just Trump. | ||
| It's Trump-ism. | ||
| It's populism. | ||
| It's this nationalistic populism. | ||
| That is so powerful and they're afraid of it. | ||
| They're afraid of the 75 million votes and the 1 million people, you know, the ones that showed up, the 1 million that showed up in November 12th and the 1 million the other day, if you kept it peaceful, right, we'd be in such a power position right now, right? | ||
| Power position because they're afraid of the voting in the economic power and right now they don't think you're going to use your voting in your economic power to make fundamental changes. | ||
| We'll talk about that. | ||
| Let's get into There's a lot of polling going on. | ||
| I know you're one of the reasons I reach out to Jason and Jason was the comms director and strategist for the 2016 campaign. | ||
| You've got a great feel for politics, but you also are very analytical. | ||
| Forced by the numbers, but you want to make sure the framework is there. | ||
| What is the math actually showing us today? | ||
| So let's walk that one. | ||
| You and Rahim, there's some there's some very powerful numbers coming out on exactly what's going on in Washington and then the bigger picture of what's going outside of Washington. | ||
| One thing I want this audience to understand right now in this city, it is it is a closed thinking loop. | ||
| What's going around in the thoughts of the political elites in the city and in the permanent political class is, I think, just to get Trump, you know, next 10 days, just do what you got to do to get Trump out of here. | ||
| Keep putting up as many blocks like the impeachment, like the 25th Amendment. | ||
| Let's just get this guy out of here because he represents, you know, he represents this dangerous populist element that's out there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Let's just get him out of town. | ||
| But they have a circular logic to this, right? | ||
| That does not really include where the country is and where the country is in the global economic system, particularly in contrast to our existential threat of the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| So why don't you and Rahim go through with the math choices now? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And so give folks a little bit of a background. | ||
| When I talk about battleground states, those are really the 17 states that essentially decide the election. | ||
| So we talk Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, etc. | ||
| And what we would always poll during the campaign, even go back 2016, 2020, it's really about the battleground states. | ||
| Because when you poll nationally, just to Quick insight for folks who, I know this is obviously a sophisticated audience. | ||
| When you poll nationally, Democrats have about a 17% waste and Republicans have about a 13% waste. | ||
| So just from national versus battleground state, it's about a three to four point swing for Democrats. | ||
| So just know that anytime you see national poll, Trump's numbers are going to be about three or four points better. | ||
| So just because of the center gravity of how big the Democrats are in California, California, New York, and that's versus, you know, Illinois versus Kansas and Alabama, just the size differential. | ||
| So we went in, did a survey the last couple of nights, used John McLaughlin, who's obviously a friend of the show, and he did polling on the president's both campaigns. | ||
| Winning did 800 battleground voters over the 10th and the 11th, and everything's matched up to the actual turnout. | ||
| So this is after the fracas of last week? | ||
| Yes, this is Sunday night and Monday morning of this week. | ||
| And I just want to make sure, because we talked about this. | ||
| Most national pollsters, and McLaughlin, I think you agree, it took the country a couple days just to process the immediate, and particularly the media bombardment, right? | ||
| I'm not saying we've worked through that. | ||
| And, you know, I understand why the President hasn't, you know, normally he's out in a defense he hasn't been, but you did this on the 10th and 11th, at least the 10th and 11th, having the first processing of that information by the American people. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And so as we go, so everything's matched up, which basically when you talk about the battleground states, it's at a 49-49. | ||
| I mean, it's a dead even. | ||
| It's that close. | ||
| Well, and I'm sorry, that's going back to how the actual votes turned out. | ||
| So it's clear that this is a balance. | ||
| This is going off of what the real turnout, what the real model looks like. | ||
| Some things really stood out. | ||
| First, 48% of all voters are less likely to vote for a member of Congress who votes to impeach the president. | ||
| Only 36% are more likely. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| This is the big one right here. | ||
| 80% of Trump voters and 76% of all Republicans in battleground states are less likely to vote for a member of Congress who votes for impeachment. | ||
| Think about that for a moment. | ||
| If you're a Republican, if you're a vulnerable Democrat that's out there, 80% of Trump voters and 76% of Republicans are less likely to vote for you if you support impeachment. | ||
| The young guy with the red beard that came out yesterday on MSNBC CNN and said, hey, Trump's got to be impeached. | ||
| I'm looking hard at impeachment. | ||
| His staff ought to be walking him through those numbers right now, right? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, at this point... He's Justin Amash's relief. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, at this point, I'd just, if I were one of his staffers, I'd just start, you know, looking in the wanted ads and roll call in the back. | ||
| I don't know if T-Coast or Bullfeathers are still open, maybe they can get a job there. | ||
| But it's, look, they're going to be out of biz. | ||
| But more importantly, I wanted, so I wanted to get to kind of the meat of it first, so this audience knows our base is strong, our base is united. | ||
| I want to give a couple other things that are important here. | ||
| And one of the things with the horrific actions that we saw at the Capitol last Wednesday, One of the things that's really ticked me off, and I don't think that has gotten enough play, if you've been listening to President Trump for the last six, seven, eight months, let alone the last four or five years, is there a single American in the entire country has been more pro-law and order and more anti-violence than President Trump? | ||
| I mean, think about how he denounced the violence in Chicago and back in 2016 and what we saw in Dallas and some of the riots and different things, let alone this year. | ||
| President Trump is the most pro-Law & Order guy who's out there. | ||
| We're the Law & Order movement. | ||
| Remember, not one police union, even in heavily Democratic states, came out and supported Biden. | ||
| Which traditionally, he had, I think, unanimity among Law & Order. | ||
| We're the Law & Order party because of the Law & Order movement. | ||
| So here's some take it back to some of the the polling this year 89% of all voters think it's important that the president lead an orderly and peaceful transition to Joe Biden. | ||
| The when voters are told that Joe Biden will be inaugurated on January 20th, but Pelosi and Schumer want Congress to impeach and remove the president in this last week, 60% of all voters say this is another waste of time and money. | ||
| Only 40% agree with Pelosi. | ||
| So think about that. | ||
| It's a 49 to 49 split in battleground states, but it's 60 40 against it. | ||
| Here's where it gets interesting. | ||
| 77% of all voters think that Congress should make its priority this next week dealing with COVID. | ||
| Only 23% think it should be going after President Trump. | ||
| And this is, I'm going to get to just how unpopular Congress is in a moment. | ||
| 74% of all voters agree by efforts by Pelosi and the Democrats to impeach the president after Biden is sworn in would be politically motivated, just designed to keep the president from running again. | ||
| Steve, that goes to your point from just a moment ago. | ||
| 65% of all voters agree that by continuing to attack the president, Biden and Pelosi, and this is important because Biden will own this. | ||
| This is where we look to the pivot and where the ball is going. | ||
| Biden will own this impeachment effort and it will completely kneecap the early stages of his presidency. | ||
| 65% think that it's making things worse and keeping the country divided. | ||
| So you want to know what the impact then is for for members of Congress? | ||
| I talked about The 80% of Trump voters, 76% of Republicans being less likely. | ||
| Congress's net job rating right now, 28%, 72 disapprove. | ||
| 72% disapprove? | ||
| Yeah, 28 approve, 72 disapprove. | ||
| So Rahim, this is where I turn to you and say, come up with a list of all the things that are more popular than Congress, and there's probably a lengthy one. | ||
| Oh, and by the way, the president, his job approval rating for these, again, for the battleground states that we're talking here is at 49%. | ||
| So that lets you know that when you talk about the states, the electoral votes actually matter. | ||
| President Trump is, yes, he's had some erosion. | ||
| It's been a little bit rougher over this last week. | ||
| He's obviously been hit. | ||
| Oh, here's one. | ||
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But there's been no counter narrative to it. | |
| You've got to remember, this has been the biggest tsunami ever. | ||
| They have poured all of it for five straight days. | ||
| Here's one other good note for Republicans. | ||
| The generic vote for Congress right now favors Republicans, again this is battleground states, 49 to 42. | ||
| That's for Congress. | ||
| That's huge. | ||
| Even after this week, even after this week, Pelosi has a fave-unfave of 33-59, and Schumer, 27-51. | ||
| That tells you where the American public is upset with Congress. | ||
| They want them dealing with COVID and the economy, not with this impeachment nonsense. | ||
| It's viewed as politically motivated, and anyone who supports impeachment is going to be punished if they're in a Republican or in a swing district. | ||
| You do agree that the train has left the station, right, on impeachment. | ||
| She's hurtling down this. | ||
| She's going to have that. | ||
| Oh, it's scheduled. | ||
| I think it's tomorrow. | ||
| 9 a.m. | ||
| is when they call it in? | ||
| Well, I think they're going to do the 25th Amendment today, starting at 6, right? | ||
| Tomorrow's impeachment. | ||
| Tomorrow's impeachment. | ||
| They may clean up on the... Do not pass go. | ||
| Do not collect $200. | ||
| There's no doubt in your mind it's going there. | ||
| Oh, no, that's happening tomorrow. | ||
| Okay, we'll take a short break. | ||
| Jason Miller, Raheem Kassam. | ||
| War Room Pandemic, the impeachment special will return in just a moment. | ||
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War Room Impeachment With Stephen K. Bannon, Jason Miller, and Raheem Kassam Coming Soon Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Okay, we're back in the War Room. | ||
| Impeachment day, or impeachment week. | ||
| Rahim, the President just walked to the plane. | ||
| What do you have to say to the reporters? | ||
| So, reporters are reporting that the President said that the impeachment push is, quote, absolutely ridiculous and is causing, quote, tremendous anger that's coming out of Bloomberg News right now. | ||
| I agree with that. | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| And you know, and your polling numbers show that polling numbers show that and I had a long talk with a left of center journalist yesterday who focuses on on media such efforts. | ||
| And he was very concerned with what Democrats are doing, saying that all this is going to do is further divide the country. | ||
| If you go and kick 75 million conservatives and Trump supporters off of social media, if you push them to their corners, all they're going to do is they're going to take Regular people who are just regular rank-and-file Trump supporters, you're going to make them angry. | ||
| You're going to be even more angry than they are right now. | ||
| Frustrated, ticked off. | ||
| And people, I mean, I literally had a conversation with someone a week ago where they said, I was making the comment that, you know, D.C. | ||
| is not the most hospitable place right now if you're a Trump supporter. | ||
| I mean, you know, Steve, you've been in this bunker and you haven't left in months. | ||
| You know, I need an armored caravan to get anywhere without the, you know, the woke mob trying to get me. | ||
| But it pushes people into these corners, and it makes the country more divided. | ||
| Things like this start small, and then 10, 20 years down the road, we're living in two different countries. | ||
| Metastasize. | ||
| I want to go, before we get to the Vox numbers of the polling, but one thing I want to say about the polling right here. | ||
| Is that the President, and he could have done it, and the Republicans could have done it, but they made a decision, let's take all the incoming, let it wash through, and then we'll pivot, okay? | ||
| That's the decision. | ||
| I'd like to count it punching right off the bat. | ||
| I disagree with that, but I see what they did. | ||
| And people in the audience are going to understand, these numbers are incredible, given the onslaught of the convergence of, remember the plan here was to make Trump as toxic as possible, make it so toxic. | ||
| I said it was like the Chernobyl movie with the cobalt, you pick it up and your hand's gone in 30 minutes. | ||
| With the pincer move of the 25th Amendment impeachment and all the media, you know, it's insurrection, it's treason, the treason caucus, all that. | ||
| These numbers are extraordinary, and I think both the Republican Party, the leadership over there, the White House, the President, and the Trump movement have got to understand that people are seeing through this, right? | ||
| Seeing through this. | ||
| Now, they need some guidance. | ||
| I think there's a lot of opportunities on big tech and the suppression and other things that are out there that could be done, but would you use We still don't have a clear thing on the rules. | ||
| Would you use the actual impeachment debate on the floor? | ||
| Because they're not going to have committee. | ||
| They're going to go right to it. | ||
| But it looks like they are going to allocate some time. | ||
| Would you use it to actually make the case? | ||
| Because accusing him of inciting violent insurrection, right, and predicated upon that whole page three goes through months of baseless and false allegations in both state legislatures, etc. | ||
| Would you take the challenge on to disprove that he had about the violent insurrection and Make your case, state by state, where this was not baseless, it was not false, you may not agree with it, you may not believe it, and at the end of the day you may think that I still lost, but it's certainly not baseless, and here are the charges. | ||
| Would you be on the offense on that, or would you just say, hey look, let's just have a vote and move on, because we know it's politically motivated? | ||
| I think when it comes to the House, I think it would probably be the vote and move on, and I'll tell you for a couple of reasons here. | ||
| I think the more that we drag out the process right now, let me back up, the further we get away from last Wednesday, the more people will look at it and have a clear-eyed view Of what happened, and who's really responsible. | ||
| The bad actors here, and how this isn't something they can go and pin on President Trump. | ||
| And the further investigations of what happened, why isn't the National Guard there, what happened to the Capitol Police, the FBI went to, turns out they're calling on guys at Demijig not to come. | ||
| I mean, the understanding of what was here, and as you know on Capitol Hill, there was some bike racks and some, you know, Capitol Hill Police, as good a guys as they are, they clearly weren't, as you know, you've known this place is in lockdown. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And even, you know, one of our another friend of the show, Jack Posobiec, made the point on Twitter yesterday. | ||
| I think he maybe even showed pictures with it. | ||
| Here's a picture of the Capitol at, say, 11 or 1130 in the morning. | ||
| You know, President Trump was still speaking or hadn't even started speaking with some of this. | ||
| And so, but I think the where the real battle is going to be is when we get to the Senate, making sure that these weak-kneed Republicans know what the numbers look like. | ||
| But also, Joe Biden has to own this. | ||
| I've told you what Nancy Pelosi's numbers are. | ||
| I've told you what Chuck Schumer's numbers are. | ||
| This is really going to be about making Joe Biden own it. | ||
| And right now, Joe, he's the most scared person in the country. | ||
| US politics right now is Joe Biden because he's looking at the fact that the opening of his presidency is going to be defined by an unhinged and bitter Nancy Pelosi trying to take trying to take get retribution on President Trump. | ||
| Can you get the Senate to be aware of where we actually stand if you don't set the predicate in the House? | ||
| See, I'm all in for going in hard. | ||
| If you get two hours- Look, you're going to have, I guess- And I'm saying not rhetoric. | ||
| I want facts brought out in that because that sets a predicate. | ||
| If you just take a pass on the House part of it, I think it makes it harder To show the Senate about really, first of all, I think it galvanizes the Trump base to say, yes, that is the argument he is being defended. | ||
| I think you'll have the hardcore allies who will go and do that right off the, you know, like our man Matt Gaetz, you know, other people, you know, Jim Jordan, people who are going to stand in the breach and are ready to rumble. | ||
| We'll have those allies, they'll be out there doing it. | ||
| But as far as say the full media effort and making everything, because look, the media gets it. | ||
| The media knows that this is witch hunt chapter, what are we on, like chapter four of the witch hunt and everything. | ||
| To that point, I do want to throw this in there. | ||
| I know we're focusing on the impeachment part, but I want to talk about just broader public opinion. | ||
| Two super critical bullets. | ||
| I want to talk about big media, big tech, for a moment here. | ||
| From the polling that we did of the 17 battleground states, 800 likely voters, 74% agree that if big tech companies like Twitter, Facebook, and Google can censor and take away the President's right to free speech, they can take it away from any American. | ||
| Only 26% disagree. | ||
| People get it. | ||
| They understand this is way beyond just the Republican base. | ||
| They understand if they're coming for Trump, then they're coming for everybody else. | ||
| 70% and this is also a key when we talk about what happened the next shoe to drop. | ||
| of all voters agree that big tech companies like Twitter, Facebook, Amazon, Google and Apple have too much power and need to be regulated to protect the freedoms and privacy of Americans. | ||
| So Americans understand where this is going. | ||
| They understand that this is politically motivated and they think that big tech needs to be reined in. | ||
| Given that, before you get to the Vox thing, why it would seem logical. | ||
| Look, this was a... | ||
| This is just like the old days. | ||
| It's like where I'd start rambling and then Rahim's sitting there. | ||
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He's got some free time in an hour, I'll come back. | |
| Jump in, because this will take us to the next attempt. | ||
| No, look, I think there are some interesting numbers in this data for progress thing by Vox. | ||
| They've gone through and they ask, okay, on January the 6th a mob stormed the Capitol. | ||
| Do you agree or disagree that these actions are a threat to democracy? | ||
| Only 47% of Republicans agreed with the framing of that and 40% disagreed that this was a quote-unquote threat to democracy. | ||
| The people then they asked who do you blame for this and President Trump is the first one that they named. | ||
| 63% in total appear to blame President Trump in some way for this although 59% of Republicans say that he's not to blame for what happened there which is an interesting split. | ||
| It gets even more interesting. | ||
| They named Senators Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz. | ||
| They say 51% said that those people are to blame, but again 58% of Republicans say they are not to blame. | ||
| So you see this kind of split and it's kind of totally partisan split on these two sides, on all these questions. | ||
| Democrats in Congress, actually of all voters, attract 37% of the blame for Wednesday's events. | ||
| President-elect Joe Biden actually attracts 30% of the blame for last Wednesday's events and 53% of Republicans actually blame Joe Biden for what took place last week. | ||
| Antifa, interestingly, top line, gets 47% blame across the political divide from Democrats, Independents and Republicans. | ||
| And this is with no media on it. | ||
| These numbers are stunning because of the suppression of the real story. | ||
| Right, that's absolutely right. | ||
| In terms of supporting the effort to remove Trump from office, it's basically 50-50. | ||
| When you take into account the don't knows, do you support or oppose the effort to impeach? | ||
| Again, basically 50-50. | ||
| This is splitting straight down Partisan lines basically. | ||
| Yes and although to the thing that I'd point out and again Raheem the Vox poll you're looking at is a national survey correct? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So right there off the top and do they have a screen on registered versus likely voters? | ||
| Uh do not. | ||
| Okay so usually on the registered versus likelies that's about a three to four point swing as well so when you take battleground states. | ||
| They may be as much seven for seven points. | ||
| Well, yeah, I mean, you take battleground states, that's a three to four point swing, you take registered to likelies, that's three to four points. | ||
| So you can see there, then the difference between a 60 40. | ||
| But yes, it's largely along partisan lines. | ||
| But it's in a lot of these battleground states, you get a couple points of people outside the beltway, they're a little bit more, you know, reasonable and understand what And last thing on that, which makes this study really interesting, it says, allegations of voter fraud have made me question the results of the election and Joe Biden's victory. | ||
| 43% of people say yes, that is the case. | ||
| Allegations of voter fraud have made me question Joe Biden's victory. | ||
| By the way, YouTube, this is why we're never stopping on this thing. | ||
| He's starting, and this is all Fox. | ||
| And by the way, not weighted to the way you should say it really should be weighted. | ||
| Think about that for a second. | ||
| And I keep saying this. | ||
| Roughly half, 45 to 47, 48 percent of the country thinks he's illegitimate and illegal to start off with. | ||
| We've had guys start off with different policies. | ||
| Raheem, quick, because we're going to go to break. | ||
| 49 percent of Republicans say I have doubts about the election results and don't believe Joe Biden should be inaugurated as a result. | ||
| Kaboom! | ||
| Okay, we're going to come right back. | ||
| We're going to have Steve Cortez. | ||
| Steve is going to talk today about the border trip, the wall, and really the seismic shifts in the voting in those counties down there. | ||
| Working class Hispanics backing, guess what? | ||
| A populist, economic nationalist president. | ||
| That would be Donald J. Trump. | ||
| We're going to return in a minute with Jason Rahim and Steve on War Room Pandemic, the impeachment special. | ||
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War Room Impeachment with Stephen K. Bannon, Jason Miller, and Rahim Qasem. | |
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, welcome back to War and Pandemic, the impeachment special. | ||
| We've got Kassam Miller, and now we're going to be joined by Steve Cortez. | ||
| But more breaking news of the president going to the plane? | ||
| Yeah, as the president was walking out to the plane to head to the border, talk about completing 450 miles of the wall, he said to reporters, he made it clear that he wants no violence and that talk of his second impeachment is a continuation of the quote, greatest witch hunt, close quote, in the history of politics that's causing tremendous anger. | ||
| Is that a good message for him to be putting out before he gets on Marine One? | ||
| Absolutely, because this is the first time that he spoke publicly in a week, and I think it's important. | ||
| What I'm glad is that he went out there and made clear he doesn't want any sort of violence. | ||
| That's absurd. | ||
| But until people hear directly from him, they're going to go and try to put words in his mouth. | ||
| But then also, going back to the witch hunt, that's a reminder to everything, whether it be the Mueller investigation, to the first impeachment, To the the Logan Act and all the the spying and tapping and all the crazy stuff they did going back to 2016. | ||
| So, Cortez, you were on 16. | ||
| You were one of our top surrogates on the 16 and you've been really one of the first guys to really understand populism, economic nationalism. | ||
| Before we start talking about why he's going to the border today and why the Democrats are so freaked out about this, walk us through your thoughts on the continuation of this witch hunt, the continuation of the impeachment process. | ||
| Well, Steve, unfortunately, this impeachment 2.0 is just a ridiculous and illogical canard. | ||
| And the reason I say it's illogical is all we have to look at is the actual transcript of the actual videotape of the president's speech on the mall that day, where he called for those protesters to go and peacefully and patriotically, that is a quote, peacefully and patriotically make their voices heard. | ||
| So in terms of representing him before the Congress, I think unfortunately he will be impeached. | ||
| But you really need no more evidence than his speech itself. | ||
| Nonetheless, instead of addressing the serious business of this country, which is still reeling from what the Chinese Communist Party virus did to our economy, instead of addressing that serious business, Speaker Pelosi continues to pursue this vindictive crusade of impeachment. | ||
| I only hope that it will lead ultimately, as you said, Steve, To a full vetting in front, if it does go to trial, in front of the United States Senate of our very valid concerns and claims about election fraud and constitutional violations. | ||
| So that is the only silver lining to this dark cloud that Democrats are forcing upon the country. | ||
| No, the numbers are incredible, but I want to go very specifically today, and I think it's very symbolic. | ||
| The first time the President's coming out, he's going back to really what in 16 became, you know, and it's not just about the wall, it's about our sovereignty, right? | ||
| It's about our sovereignty. | ||
| And here's the amazing thing, and Cortez, This is why I gotta tell you, I love you. | ||
| You're the first guy back in 15 or 16 to say, hey, look, that working class Hispanics will be the biggest proponents of Trumpism. | ||
| They will not just love this guy's strength. | ||
| They're going to love this message. | ||
| So walk us through what happened in 2020. | ||
| That message got through on the economy and then it played out in the ballot box. | ||
| And this is the reason, ladies and gentlemen, they have to destroy Donald Trump. | ||
| And they have to turn and turn the Trump movement into a domestic terror movement. | ||
| Because the future, the major realignment in American politics is about to happen. | ||
| Brother Cortez, it's yours. | ||
| Exactly right, Steve. | ||
| You know, in 2020, it really is the confirmation that the America First cause has truly become a workers' movement, and I mean by that a broad workers' movement, that crosses ethnicities, that crosses geography, transforms the electoral map, and has also crossed racial. | ||
| And we see that, and I'm going to give you some numbers that prove that. | ||
| And you're exactly right, Steve. | ||
| The Democrats are not dumb. | ||
| They see the same data that I see about what happened, for example, in these border counties. | ||
| They see the way Hispanics, particularly, Let me put some data on this. | ||
| first populist nationalist agenda, and it scares the Dickens out of them as it well should, because it portends many gains to come for our movement. | ||
| Our movement is extremely young, and I know these are dark days for our movement, it's been a tough week for our country, but I do want the patriots out there, the deplorables to know that our movement is strong and it is young. | ||
| And let me, let me put some data on this. | ||
| So the president is going down to the border today, which I think is a very fitting end to this amazing term of accomplishments, 450 miles toll of total formidable new walling on the U S border, and that is despite Steve, the total intransigence and, uh, and, and obfuscation, unfortunately, of the Democrats and the mainstream media regarding what is actually needed at the border to guard our country. | ||
| And you know, who knows it better than anybody. | ||
| Our Hispanics who live on the border. | ||
| So the president's going today to Alamo, Texas, not the Alamo, to the town of Alamo, Texas, very near the border. | ||
| That is in Hidalgo County in Texas. | ||
| Hidalgo County versus 2016. | ||
| President Trump nearly doubled his raw vote total. | ||
| He got 48,000 votes there in 2016. | ||
| He got 90,000 votes in 2020 and he increased his margin, or he didn't win it, but he increased his margin by 13% in just one election cycle. | ||
| That's pretty incredible. | ||
| But let me give you even more stellar numbers. | ||
| Right next door to Hidalgo County, just to the west, is Starr County. | ||
| By the way, Hidalgo County, 90% Hispanic. | ||
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| Working class Hispanics who live on the border. | ||
| Right next door, Star County, 96% Hispanic, the most Hispanic county in America. | ||
| Again, President Trump didn't quite win it, but he increased his margin there by 55%. | ||
| He lost it by 60% in 2016. | ||
| He only lost it by 5% this time. | ||
| One more county, if we hop over, continuing westward along the border of the Rio Grande Valley, Zapata County. | ||
| 86% Hispanic. | ||
| The President did win Zapata County by 5 percentage points, a 38% improvement over 2016. | ||
| You can literally go, Steve, from the Gulf of Mexico all the way to the Pacific Ocean, along the border, and every one of these counties, even if the President didn't win, he massively increased his vote share in these counties in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and even in California. | ||
| He even did it in Imperial County, And what that tells me, Steve, is that working class Hispanics, number one, believe in a strong border. | ||
| Not surprising, by the way, the Customs and Border Patrol is the most Hispanic agency of the U.S. | ||
| federal government. | ||
| A lot of very brave Hispanic citizens of this country do hard work, dangerous work. | ||
| to protect the front door of America. | ||
| And Hispanics who live there know that better than anybody. | ||
| But they also, Steve, have dealt with the terrible consequences of a porous border. | ||
| They have dealt with, unfortunately, the illegal and unfair competition in the wage market, which depresses earnings for those people. | ||
| That has changed under President Trump. | ||
| And they know it. | ||
| They also know very well the totally preventable crime that results from open borders. | ||
| They know that President Trump was right when he said that there are some bad hombres who come across that border illegally when we allow porous borders. | ||
| And they mean to do harm to Americans. | ||
| And by the way, their victims primarily are Hispanic American citizens. | ||
| So this is great news for our country. | ||
| The president is rightly going to the border to celebrate a stronger, firmer uh... wall and and and a and a stronger for approach to the sovereignty of the united states but it's also portends significant gains in the future for our movement as again we become a broader workers movement steve cortez it's jason here By the way, Steve, you are my second favorite Cortez in the Cortez household. | ||
| But one of the things that I'd point out also, going back to following the killing of George Floyd last summer and then Joe Biden, the National Democrats, coddling of the anarchy and the riots and the out-of-control political factions of the BLM, | ||
| The one group of voters where we gained ground during that three four week stretch going into June and into July with Latino and Hispanic voters around the country. | ||
| Democrats have in addition to the outreach of the the the economic and Border security Steve that you so accurately pointed out Democrats also did a lot to help us here and I think Democrats will be set back potentially even a generation Because one thing to keep in mind is that for so many Latinos and Hispanic voters around the u.s Whether they're immigrants themselves or their first generation or second generation and when you talk about the American dream | ||
| It's not just about the economics as Steve pointed out. It's about the security It's being able to have kids who can walk to school without worried about getting abducted you go to countries in Central and South America Everyone has eight or ten foot walls around their houses. | ||
| And that's just because of the lawlessness and the violence here in the United States. | ||
| That's not what we believe in. | ||
| We believe in law and order. | ||
| Latino and Hispanic voters love President Trump for pushing this message. | ||
| Jason, listen, that's an outstanding point. | ||
| You're exactly correct. | ||
| The millions and millions of Hispanics who came to this country, people like my own father, they came here to flee the corruption and the violence of Latin America. | ||
| They did not come here to replicate those problems in the United States. | ||
| And you're also right that Hispanics disproportionately suffered the consequences of those riots. | ||
| Let's face it, the neighborhoods that were burned and looted and torn apart in large part are center city neighborhoods, places where minorities live, places where the citizens tend to be Black and brown. | ||
| It wasn't going on in the wealthy parts of America. | ||
| You know, here in Chicago, it wasn't happening in wealthy suburban Lake Forest in California. | ||
| It wasn't happening in Manhattan Beach or in the capital area. | ||
| It wasn't happening in Potomac, Maryland. | ||
| No, it was happening in the inner cities. | ||
| And who was suffering the consequences? | ||
| Again, disproportionately, a lot of minorities. | ||
| And you're exactly right that Hispanics particularly really believe in law and order. | ||
| So when you combine strong border, Law and order, and then the economic gains that Hispanics enjoyed under the leadership of Trump and the America First agenda. | ||
| I think we have a very winning message going forward. | ||
| And you know, by the way, to put another number on the economic side, because I don't like to just Speaking slogans, but actually put data behind it. | ||
| Yuma, Arizona, another county on the border that the president won. | ||
| Wage growth in Yuma, Arizona, year over year, November 2019 through November 2020, 10.8% wage growth, despite all the problems, all the obstacles of the China virus. | ||
| Double-digit wage growth in Yuma, Arizona. | ||
| The president won that county, which is a majority Hispanic county. | ||
| He won it by five percentage points. | ||
| And to put that in dollar terms, by the way, because I think this is also important, sometimes percentages don't register with people. | ||
| Average weekly earnings in Yuma County went from $722 to over $800. | ||
| $801 every single week. | ||
| $22 to over $800, $801 every single week. | ||
| So 80 extra bucks in the pocket of working class people in Yuma County, Arizona. | ||
| That is proof positive that security matters, the wall matters, but it's also proof positive that the America First economic populist principles and policies work. | ||
| Meaning, restrained regulation, tax relief, plus smart, tough trade deals prioritizing American workers. | ||
| We know how wonderfully this works. | ||
| Particularly so for Hispanic Americans. | ||
| It will work again, and part of reasserting that agenda again is going to be winning the House back in 2022. | ||
| Okay, I want to say, so we got a couple minutes left here, but I want to put this in context. | ||
| And this is why, if you're depressed, you know, hey, this movement is robust and we're at the top of the second inning. | ||
| We're very, very, very early in this movement. | ||
| As Steve Cortez says, it's a young movement. | ||
| It's a diverse movement. | ||
| And it's an unstoppable movement. | ||
| Those numbers that Cortez just gave you, and Jason Miller will back this up, that was all done by the policies. | ||
| The campaign did not have the time or the resources to put huge advertising budgets, send the president down there because it was Texas, right? | ||
| You were all over the place. | ||
| Those amazing, amazing numbers come from really what President Trump was doing and people seeing the impact of that. | ||
| Although the one thing that I would say is this in 2020, we had a much more robust advertising effort with Latino and Hispanic voters. | ||
| We also ran national ads. | ||
| And because one of the things we found is just to get the repetitions and a lot of ways you'd reach, say, the Latino voters in whether it be Georgia, North Carolina, going to Milwaukee, we're running ads on School Choice. | ||
| But we did have national ads that were going. | ||
| Go back to School Choice real quickly about for working class people, how important? | ||
| Oh, it's critical. | ||
| People want to make sure their kids are going to the best schools. | ||
| The civil rights movement of our era is school choice. | ||
| And Steve, by the way, on school choice, I would say not just they want their kids in the best schools, they want their kids literally in school. | ||
| Because right now in the city of Chicago, guess what? | ||
| Chicago public schools have not been in school all year. | ||
| Private schools have been in school. | ||
| Catholic schools all over the city are doing it safely and effectively, in-person learning, with a fraction of the budget that the Chicago public schools do. | ||
| The Chicago public school system, which of course is majority-minority, has been remote. | ||
| Hang over for the next break. | ||
| Hang over through this break. | ||
| I want to get more. | ||
| We've got to talk about big tech. | ||
| Steve Cordes will join us after the break. | ||
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| Ok, Jason, we got more information about the President going to Marine One? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| So when he was walking out, he started off by going after big tech and said, I've been predicting it for a long time and people didn't act on it. | ||
| But I think big tech has made a terrible mistake and very, very bad for our country. | ||
| And that's leading others to do the same thing. | ||
| And it causes a lot of problems and a lot of anger. | ||
| big mistake, they shouldn't be doing it. | ||
| Then he said there's always a counter move when they do that. | ||
| So when we talk about where the president goes next, whether it's his own platform, whether it's, I just happened to notice you have the CEO of Gab coming on later here, whether it's wherever he ends up going, but then the president made very, very clear. | ||
| It's a terrible thing. | ||
| You always have to avoid violence. | ||
| And we have tremendous support, support like no one's ever seen. | ||
| Always have to avoid violence. | ||
| Crystal clear message from President Trump. | ||
| Just in case you've been living in a cave for the last five years, you've never seen him. | ||
| Before we get to Cortez and Big Tech, talk about this. | ||
| There's this other issue out there about these other rallies going to take place. | ||
| Yeah, and that's what I was going to say. | ||
| It's incredibly important given the fact that there's Very clearly people out there putting out fake information about rallies all over the country at state capitals all across the country for January the 20th specifically. | ||
| They are not endorsed events, they are not endorsed rallies, they are not official Trump events and what I see taking place here is actually, you know, whether you want to call it the deep state or agitators or maybe it's even people on the political left, they are faking events to draw and some of these invites actually tell people to bring arms to the events. They're faking them, they're not real, don't go to them, don't sign up to them and if you see any of these things, firstly I want it | ||
| reported to us. | ||
| Get in touch with me. | ||
| There's a send a tip box on the top of the national polls. | ||
| I'll start running some of these things down. | ||
| And secondly, I want you to report it to authorities. | ||
| These are not endorsed events. | ||
| Start running down the one that's got the red, the post on the red. | ||
| Okay, I want to go to Cortez. | ||
| The President of the United States starts the pivot on big tech. | ||
| You saw essentially a coup this week, I think, weekend by big tech and really restraint a trade. | ||
| What do you think, Mr. Steve Cortez? | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| There is a tech tyranny, unfortunately, unfolding in our country. | ||
| I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that a digital Iron Curtain descends upon America. | ||
| This is an existential threat to the American way of life, to our Constitution, to free expression itself. | ||
| You know, I believe for a long time that these tech companies are monopolies, or at least it's an oligopoly, and that they need to be regulated because they are utilities. | ||
| They need to be broken up and or regulated. | ||
| And as accomplished as this term was for President Trump, I do believe that was one of the misses. | ||
| Now, look, he couldn't get to everything in one term. | ||
| But I think in retrospect, it's more obvious now that it was a miss to not more aggressively go after big tech because, I mean, look what they're already doing. | ||
| Look what they're doing with Trump as President of the United States. | ||
| Imagine what they're going to do with a supplicant like Joe Biden. | ||
| And by the way, I believe a lot of what they're doing right now is ingratiating themselves with the Democrats, with corporate media and with Biden and Harris, knowing full well that there is no chance that any of those actors will then come after what are clearly illegal Illegal oligopolies or illegal monopolies that are in violation of antitrust law. | ||
| The United States government should have already been going after these companies. | ||
| Here's the unfortunate reality, though, Steve. | ||
| We are out of power in Washington, D.C., the White House and both houses of Congress. | ||
| So I believe, unfortunately, we're going to have to rely on the governors. | ||
| We're going to have to rely On the solidly red states, there's a lot that can be done at the state level to try to fight for the First Amendment, for free expression and fight against this tech tyranny. | ||
| We've got some outstanding governors out there. | ||
| I think DeSantis is the best in breed among a lot of very good governors out there. | ||
| But in red states like Florida, like Texas, I think we're going to have to see action at the state level until we can take back the House in 2022. | ||
| And I think this will be a powerful issue, by the way. | ||
| For us to message upon because the American people know, you know, I think even fair-minded Democrats, even people who can't stand President Trump realize that the way that you counter what you believe is a bad idea is with a better idea. | ||
| The way that you counter what you think is irresponsible speech is with better speech, more persuasive speech, not with silencing the opposition. | ||
| I mean, this is really, unfortunately, liberal intolerance, liberal fascism, At its absolute worst, and it is at the behest, unfortunately, of these incredibly powerful oligarchs, specifically Twitter, Facebook, and Google. | ||
| Okay, we had Ken Paxson, the Attorney General of Texas on the air, talking about what he's planning to do and working on right now. | ||
| You've got about two minutes. | ||
| Walk through the Steve Cortez plan. | ||
| If you were to go after big tech today, what would be your top two or three things you would go after? | ||
| Well, you know, look, unfortunately, as I said, it's difficult right now. | ||
| It really is, Steve, because we're not going to have the power of the federal government. | ||
| I mean, there are far more options at the federal level. | ||
| However, I do believe that state governments have a lot of power and, for example, can follow the lead of something that was done overseas, something that was done in Poland, which is if you take down posts, if you censor posts, if you remove posts simply because they express a political point of view which you disagree with as a company, they could do this, for example, to Twitter, that there are going to be significant fines or you cannot do business. | ||
| In the state of Florida, in the state of Texas. | ||
| So that would be one way to approach it. | ||
| Say that, of course, every company, whatever the business, whether it's tech or not, has a responsibility to try as best it can to police illegal conduct. | ||
| You cannot threaten somebody online just as you can't walk into a store and threaten somebody. | ||
| However, if there is legal speech going on, free expression, free political expression going on, and companies are taking action to suppress and censor that speech, Then there should be consequences even at the state level. | ||
| But admittedly, Steve, I don't have great options right now. | ||
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| Okay, the federal level though, you would go bust these companies up, you would do what they did to AT&T in the 80s, you would bust, you would go anti-trust, and would you turn them ultimately into public utilities? | ||
| Isn't Facebook, we had Tudor Dixon on for Real America. | ||
| You agreed, they should be turned into public utilities. | ||
| I would do both. | ||
| I would both break them up and regulate them because they need both. | ||
| And Steve, listen, the degree of power that these companies have, okay, relative to the American economy, relative to just American life, the degree of power that they have right now in 2021 America, it absolutely dwarfs anything. | ||
| That's that standard oil, you know, of old days, or Ma Bell. | ||
| It dwarfs the power that those illegal trusts ever exerted upon America, upon the American economy, and upon American life itself, our way of life, our social, our society, really. | ||
| So yes, they need to be at the federal level, broken up, and regulated both, because they are utilities. | ||
| They are. | ||
| Cortez, how do people follow you during the day? | ||
| We've got about 15 seconds. | ||
| Please follow me at CortesSteve, Cortes with an S at Twitter. | ||
| Once Parler's back up, I'm Steve Cortes. | ||
| And you've got the radio show. | ||
| We'll put the radio show up. | ||
| You've got the afternoon radio show up in Chicago. | ||
| Steve Cortes, the one and the only. | ||
| Thank you very much and thank you for working with President Trump and the Hispanic Coalition. | ||
| It was absolutely stunning, the results you guys got. | ||
| Breathtaking. | ||
| Okay, be back in a moment. | ||
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