Jan. 8, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
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| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
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Pandemic. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| Welcome back to More Room Pandemic. | ||
| It is Friday the 8th of January, the year of our Lord 2021. | ||
| A really historic week so far, we told you it would be. | ||
| We're going to have Professor John Eastman on here in a second. | ||
| I want to make sure, let's put a pin in this, we've got to get back to Michelle Obama and other things that are going on. | ||
| We're trying to get Pasovic to talk about more of what's going on at Capitol Hill. | ||
| There are going to be investigations of what went on. | ||
| One thing we do know, the Mayor of D.C. | ||
| did stand down any other law enforcement except for Capitol Hill Police and D.C. | ||
| Police basically. | ||
| And the Democrats, Nancy Pelosi's firing who she can fire in the higher echelons of the DC, of the Capitol Hill police. | ||
| And Chuck Schumer's saying they should be fired, whether it's the sergeant at arms or the head of it. | ||
| And this gets to my point that it was a pathetic, you know, and maybe they got suckered into the fact that, hey, the other million person march had been so peaceful. | ||
| Right? | ||
| But what you had to do, clearly, you had to have some sort of barriers up, etc., because a historic vote was going on. | ||
| And they locked down this Capitol like nobody's business when they have important things going on. | ||
| The Capitol Hill is in complete lockdown, including the flash guards, etc. | ||
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and i just have to say i walked around the capital last night and everything is completely shut down i mean there's massive cement barriers and then about an eight foot tall fence that is locked in and you couldn't get past if you tried meanwhile people just were sort of breezed into the cap well that's the That's what it's going to be. | |
| You've got very serious people now investigating this, looking at this. | ||
| I mean, that's traditionally, that fencing, that traditional fencing is what you see for the State of the Union. | ||
| And other times when major events are happening. | ||
| So, it's pretty amazing. | ||
| But I'm sure all that's going to come out over time, all that's going to come out about who died, how they died, what was the process of this, etc. | ||
| Just as ever, it's always incredible that when they feel threatened, when they're hiding out at Fort McNair and they feel threatened, they will stop at nothing to make themselves feel secure. | ||
| But when the country is burning down, when businesses are burning down, people are going out of business, people are killing themselves because they can't rub two nickels together right now. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| By the way, the jobs numbers, we hadn't get, in fact, where Cortez is going to come on, the jobs numbers were abysmal today, so we've got some headwinds coming in front of this. | ||
| I think that's directly related to the Republicans not stepping up and doing the $2,000 per, you know, giving in, McConnell and Schumer and Pelosi all giving the money to the swamp, giving the money to the lobbyists and not giving it to the American people, the difference between the $600 and the $2,000. | ||
| Jack, before we get, Professor Eastman. | ||
| There was a comment made by the brother of this woman, Ashley Babbitt, who was shot yesterday. | ||
| The Air Force vet? | ||
| The Air Force vet, 14-year veteran, two tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, served some time in Bahrain and other places. | ||
| And this is what he said, quote, and I think it's a feeling that very many American people have right now. | ||
| And it sort of gets to the heart of it. | ||
| And he's talking about his sister. | ||
| He says, quote, my sister was 35 and served 14 years. | ||
| To me, that's the majority of your conscious adult life, said Mr. Whithoft. | ||
| If you feel like you gave the majority of your life to your country and you're not being listened to, that is a hard pill to swallow. | ||
| And that's why she was so upset. | ||
| That's from her brother? | ||
| It's from her brother, and I think that expresses a lot of the heartbreak that very many Americans are feeling right now. | ||
| Okay, I want to go to Professor Eastman. | ||
| Professor Eastman, the reason I wanted you to come back today, and I appreciate it, was that Alyssa Fara, who people know has done a great job with Jim Jordan as a comms director, Mark Meadows as a comms director, she went over to the White House and worked for a couple of these things as deputy and was comms director at the end. | ||
| including after election day. She came in, I think it was this morning on CNN, and said everything about the post-election, you know, voter fraud, ballot fraud, election frauds, all lie. | ||
| Large cap, all lie, and it was nonsense, and President Trump should resign immediately. | ||
| I just want to stick to the facts. | ||
| Is what Alyssa, if you were able to sit down with her, what would you walk her through to try to just show her, not convince her, but just try to show her that it may be many things. | ||
| but it's certainly not a lie. | ||
| And the President of the United States, for pursuing this for the Constitution and the American people, you know, it actually did something positive for the nation, not something he should be ashamed of or resign for. | ||
| So what would you tell her? | ||
| Well, you know, it's clearly not a lie. | ||
| It's the truth. | ||
| And I would walk her through three categories of examples. | ||
| The first one is pending in three different cert petitions before the Supreme Court of the United States right now. | ||
| I'm sorry, five different cert petitions before the Supreme Court of the United States right now. | ||
| Acknowledged violations of state election law by non-legislative officials either at the county level or at the state level in the executive branch and in Pennsylvania's case in the judicial branch. | ||
| Clearly altering state election law in the middle of the election or in Pennsylvania's case even nearly three weeks after the election they continue to make changes while the heavy Democrat areas were still counting ballots. | ||
| Removing voter identification requirements and certification requirements To help ensure against the risk of fraud in the casting of absentee votes. | ||
| That's a fact. | ||
| It's a fact. | ||
| It's also a fact that under the law, those changes to the law by non-legislatures violated the Constitution. | ||
| That's a fact as well. | ||
| The second thing is as a result of those changes, we have thousands and thousands of ballots that were illegally processed. | ||
| We have in Georgia a rejection rate of illegal ballots of about 0.34 percent, when the normal rate historically is anywhere between three and four percent. | ||
| That's a fact. | ||
| We also have in Georgia that they were putting out mobile polling place locations. | ||
| That was illegal under state law. | ||
| And they did it in targeted Democrat areas. | ||
| Illegal under the unconstitutional under the Equal Protection Clause. | ||
| And it violated also the opportunity For the campaigns to have observers during every part of the election process. | ||
| Again, illegal under state law. | ||
| Those are all facts. | ||
| How many ballots were illegally acquired and harvested as a result of that illegal operation? | ||
| We don't yet know. | ||
| But it is a fact the illegality occurred. | ||
| In Wisconsin, it is a fact that state election, county election officials in Madison, Wisconsin, Illegally, illegally did a thing called Democracy in the Park. | ||
| They did it in collaboration with the Biden campaign. | ||
| These are election officials who's supposed to be the neutral, the neutral people conducting the election fairly. | ||
| They're coordinating with the Biden campaign. | ||
| Joe Biden has a PSA announcement telling people to go harvest their votes at these illegal Democracy in the Park human drop boxes, they called it. | ||
| Illegal under Wisconsin law half a dozen ways. | ||
| And there were 17,000 ballots illegally collected in that process. | ||
| They also got rid of signature verification. | ||
| They got rid of the witness requirement. | ||
| All of these provisions in state law are designed to help protect against fraud. | ||
| There's a provision in Wisconsin law that you have to prove voter ID if you're voting absentee. | ||
| With one single exception, if you're indefinitely confined, invalid in a nursing home, you don't have to do the ID. | ||
| Two county clerks directly told all the voters in their county, forget about that. | ||
| If you just claim indefinitely confined, we'll let you get away with it and we won't check your voter ID. | ||
| Again, invalid under state election law and got rid of a major check against fraud in the conduct of ballots. | ||
| You know, these are the kind of things we have. | ||
| We've got, if you look at the Georgia complaint that was filed on December 4th and a month later still hadn't had a judge assigned. | ||
| A thousand pages of allegations of illegal voting that occurred. | ||
| Verified sworn affidavits. | ||
| That's evidence. | ||
| And for somebody like her to say that it's a lie is to ignore all of that. | ||
| Now, the real question is, and on the Wednesday thing, Mayor Giuliani's speech, my speech, the President's speech, Talking about these things to talking about the truth talking about what went on in the election People are angry, but but they're angry at the at the illegal conduct of the election That's what incited anything if there was incitement at all. | ||
| It wasn't us talking about what actually happened It cannot be the case that when you talk about the truth of an election That you're not allowed to do that because you know because four hours later some some people that cross the line on violence Take that action. | ||
| I've seen one report that there were nearly 2 million people at that rally, and we have roughly 100 people that crossed the line into the Capitol. | ||
| That's unfortunate, and it cannot be condoned, and the people that did that ought to be prosecuted for the violation of the law. | ||
| But we can't remain silent about what we know happened here, and to keep calling it a lie as if it didn't happen is to shuffle something under the rug that's going to deprive us of our ability to have fair elections in the future. | ||
| Okay, I'm going to go and put a pin in Rahim and Maggie and Jack about it only being the comms director at the White House. | ||
| So, but I want to go to another topic. | ||
| You see the frustration and we're talking up here and people are saying that our institutions have failed us and that's what the anger comes from. | ||
| Greg Gutfeld at the beginning has said this on Fox, I think it's very tightly argued, that when people feel, and we can see it in the live chat, When the institutions don't respond, and we understand the managed decline of the United States, it's the institutions that have had this pressure and they're either breaking or not performing. | ||
| So let's go back to institutions. | ||
| In the Supreme Court of the five that you've got filed and trying to get there, they obviously are sending a signal, or am I just slow on the uptake? | ||
| Aren't they sending a signal because it's now January 8th and you still haven't got an expedited hearing, it's still in the process somewhere, but you really haven't gotten like dates when you're going to go argue these, I don't think, that they're telling you, hey, this is a political thing and you may have evidence and you may have facts, maybe about the Constitution, but you ought to go back to the Pennsylvania legislature and let them clean it up and go back to Georgia and let them clean it up. | ||
| We don't want to get involved in it. | ||
| Am I just being dense here? | ||
| No, you're being absolutely right. | ||
| Look, the Supreme Court had one of these cases before the election. | ||
| They had the opportunity to address the Pennsylvania violation of law when the Pennsylvania Supreme Court illegally ordered a change in the date when people could return their balance. | ||
| You know, the legislature had considered this, had made adjustments to their law to deal with COVID. | ||
| But one of the things they didn't allow was for you to submit ballots after the election ended. | ||
| And the Pennsylvania Supreme Court said, we're going to allow you to get those ballots in as long as they're here by Friday, three days after the election. | ||
| And if your postmark is after the election, that's okay as well. | ||
| We're going to presume that it was actually sent before the election. | ||
| I mean, the level of illegality here was preposterous. | ||
| And the Supreme Court was asked, To weigh in on that before the election, so they could make clear to everybody, state election laws must be filed, followed, or we're going to have a problem with this election. | ||
| They chose to pass on that, and that's unfortunate. | ||
| One of the other big lies here is this one that you see, 60 court decisions have all rejected Trump's claims. | ||
| That's just not true. | ||
| Most of those cases have been rejected on very jurisdictional grounds, and in all but a few instances, none of the merits have even been reached. | ||
| And the jurisdictional crowns, In some cases they were brought by individual citizens rather than the campaign. | ||
| People that don't have standing to challenge an election because they don't have a particularized injury. | ||
| But a dismissal on jurisdictional grounds is not the court looking at the merits and choosing that there was no case there. | ||
| This is the problem and why people are angry. | ||
| The institutions that were supposed to look at this. | ||
| The legislatures that wanted to look at it and the governors refused to call them into session. | ||
| The courts that should have looked at it and took a pass. | ||
| This is what has people angry because it's clear that the law was violated and the question is what are we supposed to do about that? | ||
| Yeah, go ahead, Jack. | ||
| Professor Eastman, when you say that the law is violated, and clearly this is an equal protection issue, is there any cause for a tort on the basis of individual electors against some of these officials, say in counties in Pennsylvania, county clerks, etc.? | ||
| Because if it violated someone's individual civil rights, it seems that they don't have the protection, correct? | ||
| Well, they were allowed to vote. | ||
| And so then the argument is, well, you allowed people who are not legally eligible to vote to vote and then diluted my vote. | ||
| But that dilution is an injury you share across the board with all other voters. | ||
| And the Supreme Court's precedent on this, it's a body of law I disagree with, but the Supreme Court's precedent on this is you have to have a particularized injury. | ||
| That applies to you in a way different than just the general population. | ||
| Otherwise, you're just complaining about, our law wasn't followed, and the remedy for that is political, to go back to the legislature. | ||
| So, individual voters unfortunately don't have the right to bring a court action against these illegal conducts. | ||
| But the campaigns clearly do, the candidates clearly do, and those are the cases that are pending before the Supreme Court, but still not a word whether they're going to even take the cases to consider. | ||
| I tell you what, Professor, can we have you just hold over through this commercial break? | ||
| I've got two more questions we want to get answered for our audience. | ||
| Professor Eastman, who is the lead constitutional lawyer for the President that teed this all up. | ||
| We're going to take a short break for commercials. | ||
| We're going to return and we're also going to get into Michelle Obama has now weighed in. | ||
| She thinks the President of the United States, am I correct, she thinks he ought to be stripped of all social media platforms? | ||
| I don't want to overstate her case, but Rahim, is that what she's essentially saying? | ||
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That's exactly right. | |
| Okay, we'll talk about all of that. | ||
| Former First Lady weighing in here. | ||
| President of the United States says he's not going to the inauguration. | ||
| The reason Rahim says is because it's not an inauguration. | ||
| We're going to return with Professor Eastman in a second. | ||
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| Okay, I want to go back to Professor Eastman. | ||
| Okay, so for people that want to make this work, right, and want to restructure the system, but to make it work, where in the system do we stand, if anywhere, really, in the courts or in state legislatures? | ||
| We know it's back in Pennsylvania. | ||
| They're going to be dealing with it. | ||
| The guys in Georgia said they're going to pick it up on Monday. | ||
| Arizona team just flew back, said they're going to be dealing with it and enforcing the subpoena out there in Maricopa County to finally be able to get to the machines and do a forensic audit. | ||
| But where does this, with the facts, since it's been called what you and Rudy and everybody else did is a lie by the former White House comms director, right? | ||
| just on a fact basis where do we actually stand or is it just dead over and we should just forget this and move on and allow this this travesty to continue. | ||
| Okay, Professor Eastman, somebody tell him we gotta get his mic on. | ||
| I want to go to, while we've got a few minutes, I want to go to Michelle Obama. | ||
| Rahim, you start off. | ||
| The First Lady of the United States stepped in here, and Maggie, jump in. | ||
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| It's absolutely disgusting. | ||
| So, Michelle Obama wants to see Trump banned for life from these social media platforms. | ||
| And I just have to ask, why? | ||
| What does that accomplish? | ||
| I want Jack to mention what he found in her letter. | ||
| away so you can't speak it's exactly okay so for her so for her that's that's that's a win I know but it's so funny because whatever happened to when they go low we go high you know she's divisive I mean this is a disgrace to our country I want to Jack to mention what he found in her letter those extraordinary this I found really odd in her letter she says she has many questions that need to be answered about this awful violence that she witnessed the day before which I think everybody will see his histrionics | ||
| she says what if these rioters had looked like the folks who go to Ebenezer Baptist Church every Sunday What would have been different? | ||
| I think we all know the answer. | ||
| This summer's Black Lives Matter protest were an overwhelmingly peaceful movement, our nation's largest demonstrations ever, bringing together people of every race and class, and encouraging millions to re-examine their own assumptions and behavior, and yet in city after city, day after day, We saw peaceful protesters met with brute force. | ||
| We saw cracked skulls and mass arrests. | ||
| Law enforcement pepper spraying its way through a peaceful demonstration for a presidential photo op. | ||
| Hey, note to Michelle Obama, it would have been nice for you to think about black people when you were in office. | ||
| When you had the opportunity, when your husband had the opportunity to do for black Americans what president trump has done for black americans instead of hiding behind them now as you're doing and using them as a political point as you're doing and hate maybe we wouldn't have had to have b l m protests if barack obama and michelle obama actually cared about black people and did something while they were in office to improve their law okay let's go back to the first reason I think his mic is working now. | ||
| Professor Eastman, I want to know, just in the facts, where does it stand with the courts? | ||
| Where does it stand with the legislatures? | ||
| And forget, you know, you've got to sort this out for the future in 2022, 2024, the here and now. | ||
| Because we keep saying, hey, the future is now. | ||
| Where does this stand in courts? | ||
| You said, hey, I've got five things in front of the Supreme Court, I've got things in state courts, I'm all over it. | ||
| We've got guys here, there, there. | ||
| I'm at state legislatures. | ||
| Where does this stand, in fact, and does it mean anything? | ||
| Well, the most important thing is it has to be done. | ||
| Because if it's not, we are no longer citizens. | ||
| We're subjects. | ||
| We no longer have control of our government. | ||
| The violations of state law here meant that the process, the legal process, was not complied with by people who did it deliberately in order to skew the results of an election. | ||
| That cannot stand. | ||
| And whether it's fixed between now and January 20th or fixed beyond that, it has to be fixed or we no longer govern ourselves. | ||
| It's that simple. | ||
| The other thing I want to say, the subpoenas down in Arizona, and we've got similar instances all over the, if this was such a clean election, then why are people working so hard to resist subpoenas to actually look at the evidence of what happened? | ||
| I mean, that right, we call that res ipsa loquitur in the law, the thing speaks for itself. | ||
| If you ran a clean election, then you want people to look at it and say, see, it's clean. | ||
| If you ran a dirty election, you do, you move heaven and earth to prevent people from having a look at it. | ||
| And that's the situation we've been in now for two months. | ||
| But I just want to make sure, in Maricopa County, I think of the five supervisors, four of them are Republican. | ||
| In Georgia, all of the, you know, Raffensperger and Sperling, they're all Republicans. | ||
| So the guys you've been dealing with are not source-backed left-wing Democrats, right, or progressive Democrats. | ||
| They're Republicans. | ||
| Why have they been so hesitant to work with people to actually get to the facts? | ||
| Well, you know, two explanations come to mind. | ||
| One, they're fearful of the violent protests that we saw all summer in Portland and elsewhere, and live threats that, you know, if anybody starts questioning the results of this election, there will be protests on that score again. | ||
| So we saw that as a setup leading up to the election, and I think it cowered some people. | ||
| The second thing is, you know, look, just because you're a Republican doesn't mean you wanted to see Trump win the election. | ||
| You know, we've seen a lot of Republicans who were anti-Trump and, you know, I think that, and who think... But we don't want these election officials, I know, but we don't want these election officials to think anybody should win an election. | ||
| We want these election officials just to be neutral, regardless of what their political affiliation is, right? | ||
| We want them to be just, we want them to be people that, in these positions, to be neutral to make sure the thing's fair and honest, correct? | ||
| That's right. | ||
| But we know, human nature being what it is, people in office are going to be partisan sometimes. | ||
| That's why we have state laws that require in partisan elections that one member from each party be there at the table watching those ballots counted. | ||
| That was another one of the laws that was violated in a number of these states. | ||
| You know, the Republican was allowed to be at the entrance of the Philadelphia Convention Center while Democrats were running the count on tables 100 yards away. | ||
| I mean, that's just that's just not the sign of transparency. | ||
| And it doesn't lend comfort to people thinking the election was conducted fairly. | ||
| Okay, Professor Eastman, how can people, so once again, would you be open to an opportunity, if we could set up a meeting with you and Alyssa Farrow, to walk her through and show her, hey, somehow, you might not have seen the memo that was going around the White House, But, you know, this was anything but a lie. | ||
| You may not like all the evidence, you may not agree with some of our ideas about some of the court angles, but it certainly wasn't a lie. | ||
| Would you be open to sit down with Alyssa if we could set it up and walk her through your facts and your package? | ||
| I would be delighted to sit down with her, and quite frankly, if I found out she already knew those facts and called it a lie anyway, that's defamatory, and maybe we ought to sit down in a different forum. | ||
| Wow, wow, wow, Professor Eastman throwing along there. | ||
| Okay, but you've got these packages of facts that I've seen that you've got there, and you've got these binders, you have these briefing books. | ||
| The one went so well with the state legislatures last Saturday, it was pretty amazing, so we'll make sure we'll reach out and try to set that up. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| By the way, give us your social media, because I know people want to follow you. | ||
| You're a big people in our population. | ||
| I haven't been blocked from Twitter yet, but Dr. John Eastman there, and over on Parler, nobody had taken my name before I got to Parler, so it's just John Eastman there. | ||
| Okay, John. | ||
| Thank you very much, Professor Eastman. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Take care. | ||
| Jack Maxey. | ||
| You know, one of the things I really love about Professor Eastman, you can hear the passion in his voice, but it does not scramble his words. | ||
| He is a completely logical person. | ||
| He lays out the case. | ||
| He lays it out very cleanly. | ||
| He does it without, you know, injecting a bunch of emotional wording to his conclusions. | ||
| It's very gratifying to think that a guy like that is on our side, and I think it's important that all of our listeners understand This isn't over, right? | ||
| You know, when Washington crossed the Hudson in that fog one afternoon and saved his army, it didn't mean it was over. | ||
| We love this country and we're sticking in it for the long haul. | ||
| And I don't think people should be overly depressed. | ||
| No, and some of the whining, and particularly some of the harder hombres, some of the whining out there, stop the whining, okay? | ||
| You've got to go through good days, you've got to go through bad days. | ||
| You know, one of the best pieces of advice I got overnight was from one of the smartest, I think, audience members we have. | ||
| They came to me and said, hey, you ought to refer people back today. | ||
| They loved the way you started with the prayer the other day. | ||
| But you ought to refer back, everybody, to the Christmas Day special, The Combat History of Christmas, in Patrick K. O'Donnell's books. | ||
| And they very specifically talked about the books he wrote about the Revolution and said, people can pick any one of his books. | ||
| And they can see at any time in American history, the country's had its back to the wall. | ||
| And it's people that had grit and determination and did not give up that eventually won out, right? | ||
| And overcame. | ||
| And that's the issue before us today. | ||
| It's, you know, this thing had been worked on. | ||
| I've got to tell you, the team of Rudy and John Eastman and all the people in background, the researchers on a state level, crowdsourced, did a tremendous job. | ||
| And had it all teed up, hey, decisions were made, right? | ||
| You've got to live with those decisions. | ||
| But like Eastman said, they're still out there, they're in the courts, they're still back at these general assemblies. | ||
| I can tell you, knowing these state legislatures, they are on fire right now. | ||
| And why are they on fire? | ||
| Because of people like you. | ||
| So when you ask what to do, you've been an amazing force multiplier, right? | ||
| We got to the cusp of victory. | ||
| Because of you, we got to the absolute cusp of victory on the floor of the United States Senate. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| How did that happen? | ||
| It was because of you. | ||
| You've got to be a force multiplier now. | ||
| You've got to continue to be engaged. | ||
| And remember, what did Trump say? | ||
| This movement is at the very beginning stage, right? | ||
| He's not giving up. | ||
| That's why I had Rudy start off. | ||
| He's not giving up. | ||
| He's not going to back down. | ||
| We're going to return in a moment. | ||
| Rahim, you got something? | ||
| I just want to... The Hawley thing, right? | ||
| The Simon Schuster thing. | ||
| I just need people to think in the break. | ||
| You will. | ||
| You should never buy anything from Simon Schuster, the publisher, again. | ||
| Let them know about it. | ||
| We ought to light Simon Schuster up. | ||
| Josh Hawley, one of the bright lights of the populist movement, pulled down for standing up and trying to get the facts argued before the American people have the evidence put forward. | ||
| It's absolutely outrageous. | ||
| Okay, we're in return. | ||
| War Room Pandemic in a moment. | ||
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, we've got the one and only Steve Cortez. | ||
| The Hammer is going to be with us in a second. | ||
| Before I go to that, anything else on Josh Hawley? | ||
| Josh Hawley had a big advance in a book deal about big tech, the oligarchs that are taking everybody down, right? | ||
| It's a timely topic and Steve Cortez is going to get into it in a second. | ||
| Josh Hawley and Simon & Schuster. | ||
| We've just been so As a side, we've been so lax about this, but we're under assault from almost every angle now and it is time for a blacklist, for a boycott list of corporates. | ||
| All those corporates, by the way, who signed that letter the other day, totally glossed over. | ||
| As a news topic. | ||
| I'm going to do that tomorrow. | ||
| You had major corporations in there, United Airlines and Macy's and Saks. | ||
| They need to know that people will not be buying anything from them ever again, ever again. | ||
| What about Walmart that started, we understand the deplorables love it, but the Walmart who's totally in business with the CCP and really came out, they were the first opening salvo On Holly, and hey, let's call it like it is, froze Tom Cotton in place. | ||
| Tom Cotton, words matter. | ||
| You referred to the MAGA movement, you referred to that march as insurrectionist. | ||
| Insurrectionist. | ||
| That may be something you want to say, hey, upon further review, I've reconsidered this. | ||
| At the same time, and we love Tom Cotton. | ||
| Right? | ||
| He's a patriot and a warrior, but at the same time, you might want to give a ding to Walmart that went after Brother Hawley. | ||
| Josh Hawley, the entire MAGA movement has your back. | ||
| Your book, sir, is going to be ginormous. | ||
| That, on that one, I can guarantee you. | ||
| We are known as having one of the largest book buying audiences out there. | ||
| We moved the needle. | ||
| In fact, the guys last stand, I mean, they were blown away by the number of books we can move. | ||
| We can move the merchandise, and we are committed to move your book. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Now, if it's with Simon & Schuster, we might have to think about that, if they stick with it. | ||
| But take it back on your own, and we'll make more money and make it bigger. | ||
| Maggie, you got anything for us? | ||
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Part of the problem is, we don't cancel people. | |
| We don't go off and participate in the cancel culture. | ||
| But Rahim's right. | ||
| And if we don't, I feel like, where are we going to end up? | ||
| You know, I just found this story that a CNN reporter is going after cable companies for carrying OAN, Newsmax, Fox. | ||
| So where are we going to end up if we don't have access to other alternative information? | ||
| Everything's going to be canceled. | ||
| And why would somebody who believes in the First Amendment want to take One America down and Newsmax? | ||
| I mean, Newsmax is about as moderate as you can get. | ||
| I love Chris Ruddy, but they announced Biden as president-elect on the day after the 14th, 15th of December. | ||
| Okay, we've got to get to Cortez. | ||
| Cortez, you're Chicago, right? | ||
| You're a Chicago guy. | ||
| Your radio show is out of Chicago. | ||
| You're in the pits. | ||
| You're in the pits out of Chicago, trading for decades. | ||
| Michelle Obama, from the south side of Chicago, She knows what the game is. | ||
| This is about information warfare. | ||
| She knows the President's powerful because he can disintermediate the cable companies, he can disintermediate CNN, because he can go right to MAGA. | ||
| And she understands it's time to pull the plug on that, so he has no megaphone, no platform. | ||
| What say you, sir? | ||
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Right. | |
| Listen, really shameful, her announcement yesterday. | ||
| And you're exactly right. | ||
| Look, big tech is far too often lately acting like big brother, and now they're being encouraged to go even further. | ||
| You know, you mentioned who doesn't believe in the First Amendment. | ||
| Well, I'll tell you one person. | ||
| The former First Lady does not believe in the First Amendment. | ||
| She, like her husband, is a graduate of Harvard Law School, but apparently she decided to skip law school on the day that they talked about the Bill of Rights because she wants to permanently, permanently By permanently banning this man from their platforms. | ||
| This man. | ||
| across social media platforms. | ||
| Let me be specific too and quote from her. | ||
| She says, now is the time for Silicon Valley companies to stop enabling this monstrous behavior and go even further than they already have by permanently banning this man from their platforms. | ||
| This man. | ||
| She refuses to actually name Trump as if he's Voldemort throughout her missive. | ||
| But here's the reality in America. | ||
| If you don't like somebody's ideas, if you revile the America First platform, the way that you prevail over those ideas, Steve, is through better ideas, through more persuasive ideas. | ||
| If you don't like somebody's speech, you don't like the way President Trump talks, the way you counter that speech is with more speech. | ||
| In America, in any civilized society for that matter, we need more ideas. | ||
| We need more speech. | ||
| We don't need suppression. | ||
| We don't need censorship. | ||
| So what the former First Lady here is calling for is dangerous. | ||
| It's reprehensible. | ||
| But unfortunately, to your point, it is tactically smart. | ||
| In an evil way, it is tactically smart because she realizes the power of Donald Trump when he communicates directly with the American people. | ||
| She realizes the power of shows like this. | ||
| And look, let's be very honest about what's going on right now. | ||
| This is a dark week in American history. | ||
| I've said it's a fulcrum week. | ||
| That the United States right now is wobbling between persisting and thriving as a republic or devolving into oligarchy. | ||
| The most dangerous oligarchs of all right now in America are the Silicon Valley oligarchs. | ||
| The actions they've already taken are incredibly foreboding. | ||
| They are being encouraged directly by the Obamas to go even further. | ||
| So this is time for the American people to really rise up. | ||
| They need to know just because Joe Biden is going to be inaugurated, unfortunately, in a dozen days, As an illegitimate and illegal president of the United States, does not mean that this battle is ending. | ||
| As a matter of fact, in many ways, the battle is just now heating up. | ||
| We need to preserve our First Amendment. | ||
| We need to preserve platform access. | ||
| This is the digital public square of the 2020s. | ||
| These are not truly private companies. | ||
| And Michelle Obama's call needs to be aggressively rebuffed. | ||
| All of us need to get out, whatever our circles of influence are, all of us need to be out standing up and saying no. | ||
| If you believe you have better ideas, then promote those ideas. | ||
| Silencing us is the absolute worst, most un-American idea, speaking of ideas, most un-American idea that I've heard of in a long time. | ||
| I want to go back. | ||
| The monstrous, I think the phrase was monstrous behavior. | ||
| Monstrous behavior is winning elections. | ||
| That's his monstrous behavior. | ||
| monster's behavior is winning elect... his monster's behavior is winning elections. | ||
| That's his monster's behavior. | ||
| It's that's what this is all about. | ||
| Winning over 75 million voters and having the most, in my view, the most successful presidential term in modern American history. | ||
| Creating in the year 2019, before the Chinese Communist Party virus crashed the global economy, creating in 2019 the best single year for workers in all of history. | ||
| Not my opinion, that's the data. | ||
| 6.8% wage growth, the highest by a mile in all of U.S. | ||
| history. | ||
| Creating peace abroad, a U.S. | ||
| America first foreign policy that believes in realism and restraint. | ||
| These are the real achievements of the Trump presidency. | ||
| And it's part of the reason, by the way, Michelle Obama is certainly smart enough to know this rather than let us discuss the many successes of this term and what could still happen in the future if we flip the House in 2022, electing an America first leader to the White House in 2024, whether it's Trump or somebody else. | ||
| She knows that those are very real potentials out there. | ||
| And so again, instead of competing in the marketplace of ideas, instead of saying, here's why you are philosophically wrong. | ||
| Instead, what do they do? | ||
| They demonize us and silence us. | ||
| That is the exact opposite of what our founding fathers had in mind for this country. | ||
| It's the opposite of over two centuries of American tradition. | ||
| This is a dangerous, dangerous time in our country. | ||
| I'm not exaggerating when I say that we might be devolving into an oligarchy. | ||
| And that oligarchy has several powerful groups behind it. | ||
| Certainly the administrative state of establishment elected politicians, many of whom are Republican, the corporate media, and then again, most dangerous of all, the oligarchs of Silicon Valley. | ||
| And they have the full blessing and in some ways, perhaps, the direction of the Obamas. | ||
| We need to be fully aware of what's at stake here. | ||
| How would you propose that we take on the oligarchs? | ||
| What actions would you recommend? | ||
| If we want to not become an oligarchy, what would Steve Tez say we have to do? | ||
| You know, listen, it becomes more difficult now that we're the opposition, right? | ||
| I mean, we have to just be real about that. | ||
| We are clearly in the opposition, having lost the White House. | ||
| I don't think legitimately so, but we're not going to be in control of the executive branch and being in the minority in both houses of Congress. | ||
| So here's my prescription going forward for the near term. | ||
| First of all, I think it's imperative that the president establish a special counsel to investigate the Biden-China-CCP Yes, of course they have to be peaceful, but we need to show the force of the American people. | ||
| days. So that would be one step. But in terms of what the American people can do, what the patriots and deplorables out there can do, I think we need a lot more demonstrations. And yes, of course, they have to be peaceful. But we need to show, we need to show the force of the American people. We need to show that we will not be silenced. I think that is critical. | ||
| And if we see that, if we see mass mobilization, we can prove that we are more powerful than the oligarchs. | ||
| The other thing we need to do over the next couple of years into 2022 is all of us work in our states to make sure that the individual states' election processes We need to take the example of our neighbors to the north of Canada. | ||
| We need to, in my view, get away from technology entirely. | ||
| And I'm no ludite, I embrace technology, but when it comes to the elections, I think this is one of the few cases where we need to take the example of our neighbours to the north of Canada. | ||
| We need to go back to paper ballots, back to in-person voting, unless there's a serious reason why you cannot vote in person. | ||
| We need to have identification. | ||
| We need validated, real elections again. | ||
| But we have to start working on that right now in 2021 so that we can have real elections. | ||
| In 2022. | ||
| But look, I'll also be honest with you, Steve. | ||
| This is a tough task. | ||
| This is a tall order. | ||
| Fighting against these kinds of powerful overlords. | ||
| And I think that really is the correct term for these oligarchs, for this emerging, nascent oligarchy in America. | ||
| It's not easy. | ||
| But, you know, great things are never easy. | ||
| And the other thing is, Steve, we don't have much of a choice because we have to save our country. | ||
| So is it hard? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's really, really hard. | ||
| But we've got to get to work anyway. | ||
| We just got a couple of minutes, but I've got to get you in here. | ||
| The job numbers today, the bottom kind of fell out. | ||
| Is that because they didn't get the 2,000? | ||
| You've got about two minutes. | ||
| Tell our audience what's going on here. | ||
| No, I think there's a few reasons. | ||
| I think number one is not getting the $2,000, getting $600 instead. | ||
| A lot of Americans, even Americans who have not lost their jobs, are still hurting and very anxious right now. | ||
| A lot of them are working fewer hours. | ||
| They're making less money. | ||
| There's tremendous insecurity out there because of what the CCP did to this country. | ||
| But I think also to connect this back in other ways to politics and specifically to the election, we have seen a marked decline in confidence since the election. | ||
| And that's not just my view. | ||
| CNBC's Survey Monkey takes a survey There is a crisis in confidence right now because we no longer have the entrepreneur-in-chief president in charge. | ||
| Also, Stephen, this is critical. | ||
| It dropped dramatically. Same thing from NFIB, National Federation of Independent Business, which surveys small business. Their confidence survey, the bottom dropped out. So I think that there is a crisis in confidence right now because we no longer have the entrepreneur in chief president in charge. Also, Stephen, this is critical. In this jobs report today, 500,000 jobs lost in the leisure and hospitality industries. | ||
| That's because of these onerous, renewed lockdowns in Democratic jurisdictions. | ||
| We know that they do not work. | ||
| And unfortunately, it now has the full support of President-elect Biden. | ||
| These lockdowns are destroying jobs by the droves. | ||
| That is a big driver of this terrible jobs number today. | ||
| We have to get sensible about dealing with the virus. | ||
| We have to take the example of Governor DeSantis in Florida. | ||
| And not follow the disastrous example of my governor, Governor Pritzker, or Governor Newsom in California, or Cuomo in New York. | ||
| Steve Cortez, how do people follow you? | ||
| Tell us about the radio show, how can people listen on an app, and tell us about your social media. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| I'm on AM 560 in Chicago. | ||
| Chicago time, 5 to 7 p.m. | ||
| Drive time. | ||
| You can stream it anywhere. | ||
| And please follow me on social media at Twitter. | ||
| I'm at CortezSteve, Cortez with an S. Over on Parler, I have my name in the right order. | ||
| I'm Steve Cortez. | ||
| Steve Cortez, one of the best spokesmen going for the MAGA movement. | ||
| Steve, thank you very much for joining us today on War and Pandemics. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break and we'll return... Just a quick reminder. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Natalie Winters just reminded me. | ||
| Simon & Schuster is the company that published that CCP virus propaganda book with its own quote, no citations and references included. | ||
| Oh, I remember that. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| She's so great. | ||
| I'll try to get the cover of that thing up there. | ||
| I remember we had that on early in the War Room. | ||
| Complete nonsense. | ||
| A misdirection play. | ||
| Information warfare from Simon & Schuster. | ||
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Okay, we're going to return to the War Room in just a second. | |
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Welcome back to the War Room. | ||
| We had Rudy on to start the show. | ||
| We're going to have Rudy on to end the show in a very special way. | ||
| Raheem, you got a special award ceremony here? | ||
| Yeah, we have this framed... So that's the cover of the National Pulse and that's your Man of the Year? | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Right, and we named him Man of the Year on the 31st of December along with Dr. Jan as the Woman of the Year for the War Room. | ||
| So we've got this one that will hang here in the War Room, we've got one for Rudy Giuliani, and we've got one that's hanging in the National Pulse Office. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And you've got to like the framing job. | ||
| You notice how Rahim always brings sophistication to the War Room. | ||
| No, his style. | ||
| It's actually edible. | ||
| Can we go and, Fox City, find the tweet right there, read that, the tweet about the Vice President. | ||
| The Vice President's staff is clearly watching the War Room live this morning. | ||
| Rahim Ghassan mentioned. | ||
| Rahim, what did you talk about the inauguration? | ||
| Not an inauguration, because it wasn't an election. | ||
| Not an inauguration because it's not an election. | ||
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And people are loving that. | |
| They are loving that online. | ||
| It's true! | ||
| I tell you what's loving it is the VP. | ||
| Tell us what the VP is doing. | ||
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Yeah, so reports are coming out that the Vice President Pence and the Second Lady have yet to make a decision regarding their attendance at Biden's inauguration. | |
| Isn't that a walk back from what they said the other day? | ||
| They said the Vice President is going to go to the inauguration? | ||
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Yes, change of tone. | |
| So what's the politics of that? | ||
| This has got 2024 written all over it, right? | ||
| Look, I think Jack has it right as well. | ||
| I mean, this guy is walking a very fine line now. | ||
| He realizes how unpopular he is with the base after- What's the fine line? | ||
| He stepped over the line. | ||
| No, no, but what I'm saying is he still knows that he needs to, he needs to, oh, I'm still on your side, I'm still a conservative, Heritage Foundation, please put me on your board, all of this kind of thing. | ||
| And he knows that people are going to resist it. | ||
| So now he's kind of going, oh, maybe I won't, maybe I won't. | ||
| I don't think it'll work in the long run. | ||
| I think he's done. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| You know, he proved, he proved it. | ||
| What do you call him, Pontius? | ||
| Pontius Pence. | ||
| By the way, the letter was totally misleading. | ||
| The president never asked him, the lawyers never asked him to change the electors and flip him to Trump or even to send it back to the states for about, what, 10 days I think it was. | ||
| That Pennsylvania had sent a letter and wants it back, that Georgia want it back, the Arizona want it back, the state legislature understand they've got issues down there that are going to continue in the courts. | ||
| As much as the oligarchs don't like it, as much as Joe Scarborough and those guys don't like it, it's going through, as much as Alyssa Farah, the former constructor, doesn't understand it. | ||
| By the way, the thing on defamation, very interesting. | ||
| That's huge news, by the way. | ||
| He looks like a nice guy, but he punches above his weight, right? | ||
| So he had been thinking, trust me, that didn't come off the top of his head, he was thinking about that. | ||
| So where are we? | ||
| We started with the toxification of Donald Trump and the MAGA movement and the deplorables. | ||
| They've been trying to do this since 15, since the rise of Trump. | ||
| Megyn Kelly, the first time in August of 2015 on Fox, they tried to kneecap Trump coming on stage. | ||
| They've been all over the MAGA movement from day one. | ||
| You know, this immensely peaceful, they do rallies all the time, brought a million people here, 54,000 people in central Pennsylvania. | ||
| The hard-working backbone of this country, totally peaceful. | ||
| Now they're being portrayed as insurrectionists, as revolutionaries, as all of it. | ||
| So where are we standing? | ||
| Well we have some breaking news as well. | ||
| Nancy Pelosi has just put a letter out and the fourth point in the letter is preventing an unhinged president from using the nuclear codes and she says, To the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mark Milley, to discuss available precautions for preventing an unstable President from initiating military hostilities or accessing the launch codes and ordering a nuclear strike. | ||
| The situation of this unhinged President could not be more dangerous and we must do everything that we can do to protect the American people from its unbalanced assault on our country and our democracy. | ||
| Is there anything the President's done? | ||
| Have you seen any unhinged? | ||
| I mean, he laid out a case the other day. | ||
| He's done two videos, both of which said, hey, I want people to be peaceful, go home. | ||
| He did say, hey, I love the MAGA people and I have your back. | ||
| He does the thing last night. | ||
| Is that look unhinged, his thing last night, the two and a half minute video? | ||
| Was that unhinged? | ||
| To me, in all of these things, we see the projection of the left. | ||
| We are about to seat a president who is completely compromised by our single greatest enemy and the enemy of liberty around the world, the CCP party of China that has paid the Biden's bills for more than a decade. | ||
| And so this is projection, right? | ||
| And she said that Donald Trump has abused our institutions for his own benefit. | ||
| Wrong. | ||
| The institutions have abused Donald Trump and the liberties of the American people for their own benefits. | ||
| We see this over and over again. | ||
| And as we see everybody's kind of depressed here, I think we should think about this. | ||
| This is the second turning. | ||
| The books are being opened. | ||
| The people who are unreliable are being exposed. | ||
| And we talk about this throughout history. | ||
| They say the truth will set you free. | ||
| That is why they do not want the truth to come out, because they want you to remain subjects. | ||
| You remember yesterday they described this as the worst ride in American history? | ||
| Not true. | ||
| Not even like a grocery corner in Kenosha. | ||
| And yet now the People's House looks like a forward operating base in eastern Afghanistan. | ||
| It is completely secured. | ||
| This should tell you a little bit about what they're thinking. | ||
| They're afraid of you. | ||
| Not because you're going to do anything wrong, but because you have the moral high ground. | ||
| They're afraid of you because of what you did on November 3rd. | ||
| That's why they're afraid of you. | ||
| The monstrous behavior that Michelle Obama talks about is you guys win elections. | ||
| And you take power back from them. | ||
| The last four years of Donald Trump is not what they wanted. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| The MAGA movement is not what they wanted. | ||
| The deplorables having a voice is what... They're Alinsky-ing, real quickly, Rahim, what is Alinsky-ing? | ||
| They're Alinsky-ing Donald Trump right now. | ||
| What is Saul Alinsky-ing? | ||
| What are they trying to do to Trump? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, just very quickly though, as well, in addition to that, is that, you know, the least war-minded president They're worried about starting a nuclear strike? | ||
| Frankly, I think Donald Trump, the man, should be the one who always has the nuclear codes, and the establishment has to go to him for permission. | ||
| Besides taking out, you know, crushing ISIS, that you had to do the caliphate, and besides killing a couple of individual guys with missile strikes, the only missile strike was the one that the establishment forced on him in Syria. | ||
| In the opening weeks of the administration, upon information that, upon further review, might not have been totally accurate. | ||
| Boy, where have I seen that before? | ||
| They wanted to do a cruise missile strike in Syria to get us sucked up into another war? | ||
| A war they've just been dying to get into? | ||
| So, no, Donald Trump... Okay, I've been told to get the app, text WAROOM, one word, 888-111, get the app. | ||
| We'll be back here at 5. | ||
| We're going to be on fire. | ||
| We're going to talk about what went on Capitol Hill, give you more signal, less noise. | ||
| We will see you this evening at 5 p.m. | ||
| Maggie Vandenberg, Raheem Kassam, Jack Maxey, Stephen K. Bannon, in the War Room. | ||
| See you then. | ||
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Bring it on and I will fight to the end, just watch and see. | |
| It's all started, everything's begun, and you are over. |
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