Dec. 21, 2020 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| So you don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| That this is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room. | ||
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Pandemic. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Welcome live from our nation's capital. | ||
| You're in the War Room. | ||
| It is Monday, the 21st of December, the year of our Lord, 2020. | ||
| It is winter solstice. | ||
| In fact, it was actually dark. | ||
| The sun went down even before the War Room came on. | ||
| The sun set in our nation's capital today at 4.50 in the afternoon. | ||
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| Also, As of today, ratings just came out, number one podcast, number one Apple podcast in these United States of America in politics. | ||
| That means we're ahead of, what is it, Pod Save America, Rachel Maddow, NPR. | ||
| God, I love that. | ||
| Looking at Rachel Maddow in the rearview mirror. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Actually, I like the way her show is produced. | ||
| I just don't like the content. | ||
| It's a good, well-produced show. | ||
| We've got so much going on we're going to bring in. | ||
| We're jammed. | ||
| We've got John Fredericks. | ||
| We've got Boris Epstein. | ||
| There's news breaking all over. | ||
| We're doing an analysis, by the way, for everybody in the engine room or the war room's heads blowing up right now, a 5,000-page A stimulus bill has been dropped in Washington, D.C. | ||
| People are going through right now. | ||
| We're going to have some audio in a little while when we pull it up. | ||
| Rand Paul and others are not happy with this thing. | ||
| It's essentially a trillion dollars, $900 billion, but essentially a trillion dollars, and it's got money going everywhere. | ||
| People are taking a look at this right now, except only $600, too. | ||
| Individuals this is the last especially the last spanning work in the bridge that bridge. | ||
| We've been talking about since February March of this year Just go you know to get us to the other side of the drop in aggregate demand of course the way the states are going right now Don't know if in New York City in California. | ||
| Don't know if that's gonna That's gonna satisfy anybody because I think another span of work is going to be needed Got to get on top of that. | ||
| Deficit, multi-trillion dollars, and I think the national debt's now $28 trillion. | ||
| Okay, we're in modern monetary theory, which I think is what they wanted anyway. | ||
| Okay, let's go to John Fredericks in Georgia. | ||
| We've got news out of Pennsylvania, news out of Arizona. | ||
| We've got Boris here to go around the horn in a few minutes. | ||
| But John, Ivanka was down, and can we put up the photo? | ||
| Ivanka was down in, I think, Milton. | ||
| Was it Milton, Georgia? | ||
| She's down there. | ||
| We've got a great shot. | ||
| I think she had 1,000 people. | ||
| People are first saying a couple hundred. | ||
| I think it looks like 1,000 people in major. | ||
| By the way, not only is that a great crowd, that is great advance work. | ||
| Whoever's on Ivanka's advance team, hat tip right there. | ||
| That's the way you do it. | ||
| That crowd looks like 100,000. | ||
| But she's packed 1,000 people down there. | ||
| So, Fredericks, what's going on in Georgia? | ||
| Has the Governor got his mind right yet? | ||
| Are we going to have a special session? | ||
| Are we going to be able to present the receipts to anybody in charge down there? | ||
| Well, Steve, time is running out here in Georgia. | ||
| They've got to get the special session done next week. | ||
| It doesn't look like Governor Kemp is going to do it, no matter what happens. | ||
| Just to give you an example, Brian Kemp has a major fundraiser tomorrow night in Athens, 6 o'clock. | ||
| For Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue, $250 a plate, $25,000 for the bigwigs, so he's fine having hosting various fundraisers with Perdue and Loeffler. | ||
| Hold on, hang on, hang on, but it's worse than that. | ||
| You're telling me Loeffler and Perdue are fine with Kemp showing up to do a fundraiser when he's disrespected the President of the United States? | ||
| Is that how it works down there in Georgia? | ||
| It's not showing up to do a fundraiser. | ||
| They're part of the fundraiser. | ||
| It's Kemp's fundraiser on Loffler and Perdue's behalf, $250 a plate in Athens, so it's not like they just happened to ramble in. | ||
| I mean, this is a planned event. | ||
| And so everything is fine and it's hunky-dory and kisses and love for Brian Kemp. | ||
| He has no reason to call a special session and reverse what he's done. | ||
| I mean, he went to the White House. | ||
| He tweeted photos out of him and his daughter in your face for the Christmas party. | ||
| So he doesn't feel, he doesn't care what the pressure is because he figures behind the scenes everything is fine. | ||
| They're having fundraisers with him. | ||
| I mean, Ivanka came today. | ||
| Pretty good rally. | ||
| Had a thousand people. | ||
| Kamala Harris went to Columbus. | ||
| That's a swing area. | ||
| Milton, all Republican. | ||
| They're obviously trying to get the vote out there. | ||
| And one of our listeners got thrown out of the event because she went in with a sign. | ||
| And half of the sign said, where is Kemp? | ||
| The other half said, Georgia special session now. | ||
| They threw her out of the rally and off the grounds because they said those signs were not accepted there. | ||
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So, um, we're getting... Ho, ho, ho, ho, hold it, slow down. | |
| Hold it. | ||
| You're telling me somebody showed up with a, with a Kemp need a special session and what else? | ||
| And they got thrown out of a Trump rally? | ||
| Yeah, it was, uh, it was a two sided sign. | ||
| Sign one said, where is Kemp? | ||
| Signed two said Georgia special session now and this is Nancy from Atlanta one of our listeners and she got thrown out of the event and was told to she had to leave the grounds because she had an unauthorized sign. | ||
| So she also said that she saw Kelly Loeffler on the way in had her sign. | ||
| Loeffler fist pumped her and she said you need to fight for Trump and she said Yes. | ||
| And kept walking. | ||
| I mean, it's all lip service, Steve. | ||
| That's just the bottom line. | ||
| Nothing is going on here. | ||
| They just want to focus on getting their vote out for the 5th. | ||
| There's no interest in the 3rd, in November 3rd. | ||
| But I tell you what, they just don't get. | ||
| The steal is on. | ||
| It's bigger than ever. | ||
| They're stealing it again. | ||
| And the Republican establishment here is doing nothing at all to stop any of it. | ||
| Lin Wood, noted lawyer, filed an injunction On Friday night to stop the runoff. | ||
| He says it should be put off until they can get under the consent decree, the illegal voting. | ||
| Those people that have voted on November 3rd that were underage, not registered. | ||
| And he's hoping to get an answer. | ||
| But again, this thing isn't even on the docket until next week. | ||
| And he fears what the judge is going to say is, yeah, it's got merit, but, you know, people have already voted. | ||
| We're two weeks into early voting, so we're going to have to go forward. | ||
| So their whole strategy, Steve, is just to run out the clock. | ||
| It's very frustrating. | ||
| The only way now you're going to get a special session is to put enormous pressure on Speaker David Ralston, Speaker of the House. | ||
| We did an article in Georgia Star News on Sunday saying that he basically lied to President Trump. | ||
| They only need 50% plus one. | ||
| That's 91 House members. | ||
| He could get it easily. | ||
| He did the opposite. | ||
| He pressured members not to sign the petition and threatened them with pulling their committees away and blackballing them. | ||
| So that is the type of attitude you've got going on right now in Georgia. | ||
| Total disrespect for Trump. | ||
| Total disrespect for the voters of November 3rd and anything else that happened. | ||
| And it's one of the most Disgusting things that I've ever seen in journalism, Steve, in three decades. | ||
| Can we pull up, John, go back, I think it was earlier today. | ||
| I think it was live during our show, although I don't think we had a chance to catch it. | ||
| Didn't the President tweet out something about Purdue and Loeffler? | ||
| Can we pull that up? | ||
| John, do you remember what this tweet was? | ||
| I think he had a tweet earlier in the day about Purdue and Loeffler. | ||
| Do you remember what that said, generally? | ||
| Yeah, generally he said they better step up and demand a special session or they were going to lose. | ||
| It seems like President Trump And you and I are the only three people who have figured this out. | ||
| I mean, it is unbelievable to me that the President has got to send tweets out telling the two Senate candidates what they have to do in order to win, and they still refuse to do it because they're listening to Karl Rove and his donors and the other Washington consultants who get paid more money to lose races. | ||
| I mean, Steve, all they, all Loffler has to do is get on a press conference tonight And say, when I'm re-elected on January 5th, I'm going to walk into the Senate on January 6th, and I'm going to vote to decertify Georgia because the fraud and the irregularities are too much for me to bear, and I'm going to stand with President Trump. | ||
| They stole it from him. | ||
| That's all she has to do. | ||
| Doesn't matter what the outcome is. | ||
| She wins. | ||
| She'll fire everybody up. | ||
| They'll get out. | ||
| She's over the top. | ||
| McConnell saves this Senate. | ||
| We've been saying this for six weeks. | ||
| We finally have convinced the President, if you want to win, you've got to fight for Trump. | ||
| But Steve, all they're getting now is lip service. | ||
| Empty tweets that mean nothing. | ||
| They don't do anything. | ||
| They're not calling for anything. | ||
| And then they can say, oh, we asked Brian Kemp to call a special session. | ||
| Oh, by the way, nice Christmas party at the White House, and we can't wait to see him at Athens. | ||
| Tomorrow night for a $250 a plate fundraiser. | ||
| What would you recommend the president do right now? | ||
| I would say that LaFleur has to do three things. | ||
| Number one, she's got to call for a special session. | ||
| Number two, she's got to stand with Tommy Tuberville on the 6th, shoulder to shoulder. | ||
| We now know that a couple of other congressmen have A couple of the congressmen are on this already about doing this. | ||
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Right? | |
| Who else has come out? | ||
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Yeah, just this afternoon, Madison Cawthorn, who's taking over for Mark Meadows. | |
| The young fire-breather from Asheville. | ||
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Yep, exactly. | |
| He came out in support of this effort in the House. | ||
| And so did Gates. | ||
| Gates has, I think, made it public today. | ||
| So you've got a number of people going. | ||
| She's got to do that, and then I think they've got to back up this call for a special counsel. | ||
| Two special counsels. | ||
| One on election fraud, voter fraud, the other. | ||
| on the Biden-CCP compromise. | ||
| So what else do you think the president needs to do to enforce his will on this situation, Mr. John Frederick? | ||
| Well, I think he should withhold his visit on January 4th, the Monday rally, this massive rally he's going to do in order to get out to vote for them. | ||
| He needs to withhold that and say, look, if you want me out there for you to put you over the top, you've got to fight for this. | ||
| And here's what you need to do. | ||
| You need to demand a special session. | ||
| You need to call up Ralston, call up Butch Miller, Jeff Duncan. | ||
| These are the people who have stopped it. | ||
| I mean, we did a whole expose on it. | ||
| They're controlling it. | ||
| They lie to the media, they lie to Trump, and they get away with it. | ||
| And if they only need 50% plus one, they have both those majorities in the Senate and the House to convene a special session around the electors. | ||
| They could do that tomorrow. | ||
| David Ralston could pick up the phone and do it tomorrow. | ||
| And if it's not legal, then you can fight about it some other time. | ||
| But the Constitution clearly states it is. | ||
| Brian Kemp is not going to call a special session. | ||
| Why should he? | ||
| They're going to fundraisers for him. | ||
| Ivanka's coming in there. | ||
| You know, the surrogates still come in. | ||
| And he gets invited to the White House and tweets out a picture with his daughter basically in your face. | ||
| Nothing to see here. | ||
| So you're not going to get it from Kemp, so you've got to go to David Ralston and Butch Miller. | ||
| Miller is the Majority Leader of the Senate, Ralston is Speaker of the House. | ||
| You've got to put enormous pressure on them to act, and the President should do it also. | ||
| And when he calls David back the second time, he should say, OK, the first call we had, you lied to the leader of the free world. | ||
| How's today's call going to be? | ||
| Is that going to be a little bit better? | ||
| Because I certainly hope it is. | ||
| These are the things we have to do. | ||
| Now, the other thing is the people of Georgia have to flood the zone. | ||
| With threatening recalls. | ||
| Butch Miller, David Ralston, Jeff Duncan, the Lieutenant Governor, Brian Kemp, all recalls, all now. | ||
| Chris Carr, Attorney General. | ||
| That's the only thing they're going to respond to, is getting kicked out of office, Steve Bannon. | ||
| John, how do people get access to you? | ||
| What's your Twitter handle? | ||
| How do they get to the show? | ||
| Actually, I have a radio show. | ||
| Download my free app. | ||
| I'm on 6 to 10, Monday to Friday, if you have Android, go to Google Play if you have an AI or Apple device. | ||
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| Put in John Frederick Shulman on 6 to 10. | ||
| We're live. | ||
| We're in Georgia. | ||
| We're taking your calls. | ||
| We've shown a light where there was darkness. | ||
| And I gotta tell you, Steve, people are squirming because they've never had a radio show where people can call in and get their voices heard. | ||
| We have a newspaper there, Mike Leahy and I, Georgia Star News, exposing the lies and corruption that has gone on. | ||
| I mean, the sellout of this president in Georgia John, John, we gotta bolt. | ||
| See you tomorrow morning. | ||
| incredible and these two Senate seats are at risk if they don't step up and get the Trump face fired up they got two weeks to do it and the way they do that is simply saying on the 6th I'll vote with Trump. That's it. | ||
| John, John we got a boat. See you tomorrow morning. John Frederick, we'll be back in a second with Boris. | ||
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War Room. Pandemic. With Stephen K Bannon. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, there's been an incident out in Salem, Oregon at the State Capitol. | ||
| We're going to try to go there live at the bottom of the hour with a live report. | ||
| There's a 5,000-page, $900 billion stimulus package somewhere floating around Capitol Hill where we are. | ||
| People are looking at it right now and heads are blowing up. | ||
| I'm a big believer in geopolitics and geopolitical initiatives, particularly around the total nations of the South China Sea and on the Eurasian landmass in a time that we're basically essentially at war with the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| But I don't know if the timing on this is so good. | ||
| We're going to get into all of that. | ||
| Big dollars are going to Burma, but only $600 are going to the American people. | ||
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Yeah, and Steve, for the timing of the passage of the bill, Senator Cornyn is expecting a 1030 vote tonight out of the Senate. | |
| So you're going to read a 5,000-page... I guess you're going to just take their word for it? | ||
| Senate votes tonight at 1030? | ||
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Mm-hmm, exactly. | |
| Yeah, and it just dropped a little while ago, so hopefully they are speed readers. | ||
| I thought these things had to have 24 hours or 48. | ||
| During the Tea Party years, didn't we fight for like, when Nancy Pelosi got there, it had to be like 72 hours. | ||
| Okay, I want to go now to Boris Epstein from the campaign. | ||
| Boris, a lot of disappointment down in Georgia. | ||
| Ivanka goes down, does a great rally. | ||
| I think Don Jr. | ||
| and Kimberly were down the other day, do a great rally. | ||
| But a person with a sign today at the rally saying, hey, you gotta call a special session, and where's Kemp, got tossed out. | ||
| There just seems to be a overall, and the President tweets out today, hey, unless these people step up, and he's talking about Loeffler and Purdue, and call for a special session, I think the President said they're going to lose. | ||
| So, you know, I think the Trump base, Here's what's hot. | ||
| fired up for the president, but very let down by the Senate candidates there. | ||
| But walk us through where it's hot today. | ||
| I know there's a lot of activity in Pennsylvania with the lawsuit. | ||
| There's tons of activity out there in Arizona. | ||
| They're having hearings or pre hearings today on this set of analysis. | ||
| Walk us through what's hot right now. | ||
| Here's what's hot. The Pennsylvania lawsuit that we filed yesterday. | ||
| And I said to you, you always want to be covering the signal, not the noise. | ||
| And when we were talking on Saturday, I told you, Steve, I told the listeners, I told the viewers, keep a close eye on Pennsylvania. | ||
| And guess what? Yesterday, we filed the first. | ||
| And hear me loud and clear. | ||
| The first direct claim, direct petition for the Supreme Court from the Trump campaign. | ||
| And that is that is out of Pennsylvania. | ||
| We took the three Pennsylvania state Supreme Court decisions, which were ludicrous and eviscerated the Article two powers of the state legislature to set the rules around presidential elections. | ||
| We took those three decisions and we appealed them to the Supreme Court. | ||
| We added arguments, beefed up arguments around that Article two issue. | ||
| Bruce Marks, the attorney in Pennsylvania, and the one or only John Eastman, who you had on your show this morning, is the counsel of record. | ||
| And we took those arguments that he had in the Texas decision, which the Supreme Court wrongfully did not take up the Texas case. | ||
| So that is major, major, major coming out of Pennsylvania. | ||
| In layman's language, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, the Pennsylvania clerks took away the rights of the Pennsylvania legislature given to them by the federal constitution to set how Elections for president are held in Pennsylvania, and that is up with the Supreme Court right now, along with the motion for expedited review, because as we know, time is of the essence. | ||
| Just walk us through, walk the audience through, what in your mind is the critical path here? | ||
| What will happen next? | ||
| What do you think the moves are? | ||
| If it is to go forward, if it gets dumped, it gets dumped, but if it goes forward, given that we're burning daylight here, we've got Christmas, you know, we're just about at Christmas Eve, what is Boris Epstein on winter solstice, in the evening, what do you think the critical path is? | ||
| First of all, see, the beauty of being Jewish, Steve, is that I get to work all week. | ||
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Now, I did work all through Hanukkah, and I'm going to be working all through Christmas. | |
| I thought Friday was a movie in Chinese food. | ||
| At least when I was at Goldman Sachs all those years. | ||
| Okay, well, I think we all know what you're saying. | ||
| You're going to work on Christmas Day. | ||
| We all know what you're saying about Goldman Sachs, but, you know, for some of us, we bypass those old traditions, which are extremely valuable. | ||
| And in the case when the country's at stake, we work through it. | ||
| And maybe I will get some Chinese steak out if my wife lets me, because she says I'm too fat. | ||
| But neither here nor there. | ||
| But if you think about the court's calendar, what is your critical path to actually get this thing through in some time, in some reading, back before the 6th of January? | ||
| Here is the path. | ||
| The path is to continue pushing our judicial fronts in Pennsylvania, in Michigan, in Wisconsin. | ||
| We know what happened in Michigan. | ||
| 71% of absentee precincts non-balanced in Wayne County where Detroit is. | ||
| In Wisconsin, we are now, you asked me last week, we are now working through the program to identify all of the unlawful, indefinitely confined classifications. | ||
| We are in the midst of it right now. | ||
| We've got our best people on it. | ||
| So I know your listeners and your viewers were worried about that. | ||
| Let me assure you that's being worked on as we speak. | ||
| Arizona's got a case in the Supreme Court. | ||
| We all know what's going on in Georgia with the state case and with the push to continue a true and honest recap with signature matches. | ||
| So here's the path. | ||
| To continue the judicial front, to push the legislatures to call special sessions, and to expose every piece of voter fraud, voter irregularity, election fraud, election irregularity, so when the time comes on January 6th for that vote, for that counting, for the counting in Congress of the joint session, which is the right of the Vice President to open and count the votes, that there's a ton of information out there and then the | ||
| right electors are counted, the correct electors are counted, the electors based on the most legal votes in the specific states. | ||
| And let's not forget that a week ago today, a week ago today, the Trump electors were sent to Congress as well along with those Biden electors. Let me just go back because it is about a calendar, you know, this calendar is very tight. | ||
| You've got this election in Georgia, you've got the Senate and House come back, the new House and Senate come back, they're sworn in, and then you go right to this, really the review and sign-off on the electoral votes. | ||
| The critical path. | ||
| We're here in the evening. | ||
| You've asked for expedited. | ||
| But basically, you've got two days here because I think now Christmas Eve is a federal holiday. | ||
| And I realize the courts have been working through weekends and trying to get back expeditiously. | ||
| But just in the timing, because this is by far the most significant case that you have brought. | ||
| But do you believe that you're just going to run out of time, or do you guys not see the 6th as a firewall? | ||
| Do you think you can go past that, just given that the court may not get to it? | ||
| I mean, you're the lawyer here. | ||
| When would you actually argue this? | ||
| Do you think you'll see arguments on Wednesday? | ||
| Will it get kicked into next week? | ||
| Is the court even going to be around? | ||
| Do you guys have any feel for whether they're taking off, or they're actually going to sit there, the justices are going to sit there and review this? | ||
| There's plenty of time to get adjudicated. | ||
| Just walk us through that critical path, because I think people here are very excited today, as I've talked to people all over the country about the Pennsylvania suit. | ||
| They just don't know if there's time to actually get this adjudicated. | ||
| There's plenty of time to get it adjudicated. | ||
| You do not. | ||
| You do not need to go to any lower courts. | ||
| That has been done and dusted. | ||
| Because you got to keep in mind, there are three ways to get into the Supreme Court, the federal Supreme Court. | ||
| One is to go through the lower federal courts, district, circuit, and then up to the states, the U.S. | ||
| Supreme Court, district, circuit, federal Supreme Court. | ||
| The second is to go to the state courts. | ||
| So lower state courts, the highest court in the specific state in Pennsylvania, that's the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania. | ||
| And then if there's a federal question, as is here under Article 2 of the Constitution, again, usurping the powers specifically outlined to the legislature's The State Legislature is by the Constitution, then it goes up to the Federal Supreme Court. | ||
| The third is that original jurisdiction, which was represented in the Texas case, again, which I believe the Supreme Court wrongfully decided there was no standing on, but that's their decision. | ||
| So this falls in the second path, where these are issues which were raised in the state courts of Pennsylvania, The state Supreme Court wrongfully, I believe, decided that they could change the rules and take the powers of the legislature away from them. | ||
| And now it's up to the federal court. | ||
| Now, with the motion for expedited relief, we're expecting responses within days and then hopefully arguments right after Christmas. | ||
| And if you think back to Bush v. Gore, the court moved very fast there. | ||
| And so the Supreme Court is able to move fast, is able to work fast. | ||
| And of course, this is a similar situation to Bush v. Gore. | ||
| The presidential election is on the line. | ||
| So we expect that same fast movement. | ||
| Is it necessary to be all done by the 6th? | ||
| It is not. | ||
| It is absolutely not necessary to be done by the 6th. | ||
| The 6th is when the counting takes place. | ||
| But remember that there is an outline in the Constitution for the inauguration to happen on the 20th. | ||
| But there's still A path to what happens if there's not a president decided by the 20th. | ||
| There's an acting president and the decision continues. | ||
| The deliberations continue. | ||
| Are you saying that, by the way, can you please stay for a few questions on the other side of the break? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Boris Epstein, we're going to get all your Twitter handles. | ||
| Are you saying, because I think we'd be breaking news here, are you saying that as you and Rudy and the senior members of the legal team look at this right now, Not only is the 6th not a hard date, YouTube, I mean, it will be a date when the Electoral College is received by the Congress and basically those electoral votes are deemed to be legitimate and they'll basically accept them. | ||
| You're saying that's not a hard date, but you're even saying the one date in the Constitution, high noon on the 20th, that, hey, if nothing's worked out, Nancy Pelosi becomes acting president, we just continue to fight this thing out? | ||
| Is that the mindset right now? | ||
| Well, let me be clear. | ||
| Let me be clear. | ||
| The 6th is a date of real significance, and I've been consistent with that on this show and throughout, okay? | ||
| But there is a path to what happens if there's no decision on the 6th. | ||
| And there's a path for what happens if there's not a president based on the most legal votes and the most electoral votes based on that by the 20th. | ||
| Then there's an acting president until Congress figures it out. | ||
| Boris, we'll use Hangover for one second. | ||
| There's some other questions we've got to ask you on the other side. | ||
| I know in Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, and Michigan, you're fighting. | ||
| Is the legislature going to work over the holidays? | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We'll return with Boris Epstein in a moment. | ||
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| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Yeah, take some mic to work here. | ||
| I'm a big name in culture, love high culture. | ||
| Like low culture too, like high culture. | ||
| But the Kennedy Center, I think in this bill, the engine room's telling me $14 million, now totals $40 million they've gotten, and the Kennedy Center's closed. | ||
| Am I correct on that? | ||
| Well, there's also buried in the bill, there's $15 billion for cultural organizations in impoverished areas, and then another $20 billion just for businesses in impoverished areas. | ||
| So this would be independent movie theaters, dramatic theater houses, I don't know. | ||
| We're going to get to all the details tomorrow. | ||
| So much breaking news. | ||
| I want to go back to Boris Epstein. | ||
| By the way, Boris, my phone's been blown up in the interim since you've been there, and people are telling me they think you guys will actually be arguing in the Supreme Court tomorrow, Wednesday. | ||
| They think the Supreme Court will rule on this before Christmas Day. | ||
| What say you? | ||
| So here's what I say. | ||
| We are expected on the motion to expedite We're expecting a response on the 23rd by high noon, and then there would be a reply due on the 24th, meaning if they grant the motion. | ||
| I don't believe there will be action on the actual petition for the writ of certiorari to go up to the Supreme Court before Christmas. | ||
| But on the motion to expedite, we are expecting action before Christmas. | ||
| And you would expect the court to be around on the week between, because of the importance of this, between Christmas Day and New Year's Day, you anticipate the court will be working? | ||
| I absolutely do. | ||
| I absolutely do. | ||
| I expect them to be working. | ||
| And, you know, interestingly, because of these crazy times we're in, and I'm so glad, Steve, that you're a fan of high culture and low culture. | ||
| Might as well talk for that. | ||
| But because of these crazy times we're in, you know, the court meets by Zoom. | ||
| They don't have to go and dredge into Washington, D.C., but they can meet and do the work they need by Zoom, as they have been doing. | ||
| Look, Boris, one of the things the audience loves about you, by the way, because of your appearances here and really, I think, getting people very focused over the last six weeks, we are now the number one podcast on Apple in America, in politics. | ||
| That's awesome! | ||
| I love that! | ||
| By the way, again, some pretty stiff competition. | ||
| Even the liberal podcasts are great. | ||
| The conservative ones, Rush Limbaugh and them are more than great. | ||
| So we're very honored to our audience now with over 25 million downloads on the podcast. | ||
| But, you know, so we work here seven days a week, as you know, Borson, I know you do and Rudy does, but the state legislatures, everybody's very concerned about the timing. | ||
| You know, Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, you guys are working this at every level. | ||
| Sean Parnell's here this morning saying, hey, we need the Pennsylvania legislature to come back. | ||
| Given that your guy's work ethic is seven days a week, right, and maybe take Christmas Day off, do you think actually these legislatures will actually be around or be reachable to actually get this done? | ||
| The question is, are we just simply running out of time? | ||
| We are absolutely not running out of time. | ||
| Again, the reason we're not running out of time is because the operative action from here on out is actually going to happen in Congress in terms of what needs to happen for the president to be chosen based on the most electors, which are based on the most legal votes. | ||
| In terms of the special sessions being called, if a special session is called in Georgia, as it should be, No matter what day it is, no matter what time it is, those representatives and senators are going to get in. | ||
| Same in Arizona. | ||
| So for those of you who are doing the right thing, working hard, pressuring your elected officials to call these special sessions, do not be discouraged. | ||
| Do not take the holidays off. | ||
| Enjoy a Christmas movie here and there, and God bless, but continue pushing, continue fighting. | ||
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Remember, Thanksgiving came and went. | |
| December 8th, which the media said was the date Edgerton Stone came and went. | ||
| December 14th is a week ago now. | ||
| Hanukkah's come and gone. | ||
| I've got my kid all the million presents he wanted, okay? | ||
| And now, and we're still working. | ||
| The kid's got so many presents, dude. | ||
| I can't tell you, he's four and a half. | ||
| I'm tripping over toys everywhere I go. | ||
| I don't know what to do. | ||
| So, and your belief is, hey, it's going to take as long as it's going to take to get this right. | ||
| The President's belief, he's not going to concede, he's not going to back down. | ||
| All these people are worried he's going to do something that he flinches. | ||
| He's not going to flinch. | ||
| He's determined to get this right for the American people. | ||
| He understands now with almost 50% of the American people, with all the tech oligarchs shutting down information, and the media companies not even reporting it, almost 50% believe this is illegal or illegitimate. | ||
| That he now, this is bigger than just Donald Trump. This is bigger than himself. He's fighting for the republic, he's fighting for the constitution, and so your guy's attitude is, hey, it's going to take however long it's going to take. | ||
| Steve, all joking aside, with everything on the line, this is as serious as it gets. | ||
| This is the soul of our republic, and we are not going to be governed by gates. | ||
| We are going to be governed by the will of the American people. | ||
| And the will of the American people, which is heard loud and clear, in large part thanks to this show, The War Room, which has become an absolute loudspeaker for the brain trust of the MAGA movement, is to count every legal vote. | ||
| Once we're done with that, and once we determine who the correct president is, based on that, we will move on with our lives. | ||
| Whether it be President Biden, I do not expect that. | ||
| Or, what I believe correctly, it will be President Trump, once we count all the legal votes. | ||
| Give us your Instagram, Parler, and Twitter. | ||
| How can people keep up with you during the day, Boris? | ||
| Thank you so much, Stephen. | ||
| By the way, congratulations again. | ||
| Well-deserved number one podcast in America, soon taking over whatever podcast is number one in the world. | ||
| I can't even think anybody would listen to anything else over the war room. | ||
| My Instagram, Boris underscore Epstein, Boris underscore E-P-S-H-T-E-Y-N. | ||
| My Twitter, I broke and tweeted the news of the Pennsylvania filing yesterday. | ||
| So make sure to follow at Boris EP at Boris on Parlor. | ||
| Again, Instagram Boris underscore Epstein at Boris EP on Twitter at Boris on Parlor. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| God bless your listeners and viewers and rock and roll. | ||
| Boris, I'm one of the senior lawyers with Rudy Giuliani on the campaign. | ||
| We're going to go to Salem, Oregon, and David Darnell. | ||
| We're also going to try to get Carol Swain on here. | ||
| We've got Michael Walsh from the book Last Stands. | ||
| We've got so much breaking news. | ||
| I want to go to Salem, Oregon, and David Darnell. | ||
| David, what is going on out there? | ||
| There's some video today. | ||
| It looks like some citizens are upset. | ||
| There's been some storming of the state capitol. | ||
| It looks like tear gas or mace. | ||
| Can you give us a situation report of exactly what went on? | ||
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Well, the Oregon Legislature, Stephen, is holding a special session today. | |
| And the doors are locked, and so the public's not allowed in. | ||
| There's no public testimony allowed. | ||
| There's nobody allowed in the building. | ||
| And so several dozen citizens showed up early this morning, and the crowd grew quite a bit after that, knocking on the door, saying, hey, we'd like to come in. | ||
| And as a matter of fact, some citizens did, in fact, get in the door, and they were met with tear gas and mace and pepper balls and rubber bullets. | ||
| Let me ask you, when you say special session, what's the special session covering, and do they have, is the legality out there if they call a special session and the doors are closed and there's no public hearings, they can have a special session without citizens being there? | ||
| Is that the standard order? | ||
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No, not standard operating procedure at all. | |
| This is the third special session. | ||
| We have two sessions, or we have a session each year. | ||
| In odd-numbered years, we have a long six-month session in Oregon. | ||
| And then, in even-numbered years, we have a short 35-day session. | ||
| And these special sessions are just like any other session of the legislature, insomuch as they're conducting their business as they normally would. | ||
| It's just called a special session because it's outside the normal session that we have. | ||
| And so, as you know, in Oregon, we have, under severe lockdown here, Most of our businesses have been closed. | ||
| The economy is dying. | ||
| People have been having to stay home and collect unemployment checks when they can actually get one out of the Oregon Employment Department. | ||
| And so the special session that was called today is supposed to address some of those issues. | ||
| And there's a number of things that were on the table, although The legislature themselves did not make any of that information public up until about 24 hours before this session started this morning. | ||
| And so people in Oregon are fed up. | ||
| They're fed up with these lockdown measures. | ||
| They're fed up with the government overreach. | ||
| And they showed up at the building today, and they'd like to have a voice. | ||
| David, hang on a second. | ||
| This is what I don't understand. | ||
| If it's a special session and you've got these lockdown measures, did they show up because they wanted to testify? | ||
| Did they show up because they just wanted to sit in and listen? | ||
| What's the objective of showing up and trying to get into the building? | ||
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Well, the objective is to show up to give testimony, although there is no testimony once Bill hits the floor in the state of Oregon. | |
| So they wanted to observe. | ||
| They wanted to be able to talk to their legislators. | ||
| They wanted to be able to go around to their legislator's office and lobby them for a redress of their grievances. | ||
| And I take it, was it the Capitol Police or the State Police? | ||
| Who stopped these citizens from getting into the building? | ||
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The state police are charged with security at the Capitol building. | |
| And they were, in fact, the force that was on the inside of the building that met some of the protesters once they got inside of the building. | ||
| And as I understand it, the state police... Go ahead. | ||
| Was it the Capitol police or state police? | ||
| Did they put tear gas or not tear gas? | ||
| Was pepper spray on people or mace? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| The first incidents was, I believe, Uh, mace or and or pepper spray. | ||
| I'm not sure what the difference is, but, uh, you know, they filled the room with that. | ||
| Uh, many of the protesters came outside of the building coughing and rubbing their eyes. | ||
| Uh, and then a little later, uh, after that, uh, the, the state police actually came out, uh, with pepper balls, uh, and, and, uh, forced everyone off of the Capitol grounds. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| David Darnell, I want to thank you. | ||
| Oh, we've got some B-roll running there. | ||
| David, I want to thank you very much. | ||
| Live report from Salem, Oregon. | ||
| Hope no one got hurt. | ||
| And we're going to drill down on this more tomorrow morning on the 10 o'clock show. | ||
| I want to thank you for your live report from Salem, Oregon. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| People running a little hot here now with these lockdowns and, you know, directions gotta be given by the state governments, I think, of what people are doing in the direction of this thing, right, to keep everybody in the Christmas season. | ||
| But he used a very good term, comes right from the First Amendment, the redress of grievances. | ||
| This is the way government is reacting now to people, but we didn't see that all summer when we had BLM and we had Antifa and we had Occupy Portland and Seattle and all these things. | ||
| But now all of a sudden a certain segment of the population has a grievance and the big guns come out. | ||
| Well, look, we don't know all the facts, but if they have a special session and say, hey, the thing's closed today and they're not taking testimony, I think you've got to get the details. | ||
| I don't know if you're supposed to storm the Capitol grounds and force your way in there. | ||
| If you do that, you're just going to play into the media's hands. | ||
| Look, I don't know any of the details. | ||
| I know I'm going to get lit up. | ||
| The bad hombres that eat nails for breakfast. | ||
| I'm not getting weak. | ||
| I'm holding the line here. | ||
| I just want to make sure that we got all the facts. | ||
| I want to thank David Darnell for a live report. | ||
| Do we have Carol Swain on yet? | ||
| We haven't gotten Carol Swain. | ||
| We're trying to get Carol Swain. | ||
| We may not be able to get her, but next segment we're going to get... | ||
| We're gonna get Michael Walsh of Last Stands. | ||
| The reason I wanted Carol on, she's now the VP for President Trump's new 1776 Commission. | ||
| It's the way that you teach American history so that people understand it and end up growing up being patriots. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| Mike Walsh will join us on the other side of that. | ||
| The book is Last Stands. | ||
| The author is Michael Walsh. | ||
| Back in a moment. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Welcome back to War Room Pandemic. | ||
| There's this incident out in Oregon. | ||
| We're trying to get our hands around it. | ||
| It looks like a group of citizens went out there to redress their grievances and didn't get met. | ||
| We're now hearing this. | ||
| Look, I don't want to pass along half-baked information, but they may have actually fired rubber bullets. | ||
| We'll have to find out. | ||
| I think that's what he meant by pepper balls? | ||
| I think it was pepper balls. | ||
| I'm following a live thread with a fellow who's out there videoing and it seems right now it's pretty calm out there. | ||
| Okay, we're going to get all the details and we'll have a report in the morning. | ||
| Also, we've got an audio I want to play. | ||
| We've got Michael Walsh coming up. | ||
| Greg, did you pull an audio from Pat Robertson? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Denver can get that teed up. | ||
| I definitely want to play that. | ||
| Okay, the book is Last Stands, Why Men Fight When All Is Lost. | ||
| Michael, this thing is packed. | ||
| And people should buy this book, particularly if you've got young men in your life. | ||
| Grandparents, parents, if you've got young men in your life, it is a fabulous book with about 20 examples. | ||
| Is it 12 examples of famous last stands? | ||
| That's about 14, Steve. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fourteen. | ||
| But you didn't have a chance to get a couple. | ||
| I want to talk, since we're in the Christmas season, and we are doing a live special on Christmas Day, I'm doing with Patrick K. O'Donnell, The Combat History of Christmas, about when America's fought on Christmas Day. | ||
| But can you talk to us about the Battle of the Bulge in Bastogne that took place over the Christmas period? | ||
| Yeah, it was right about now, 1944, Steve. | ||
| And I know this is close to your heart, because that was the Battle at which the 101st Airborne held off basically the entire German Army on the Western Front for a couple of weeks. | ||
| Surrounded, cold temperatures like we were talking about Chosin Reservoir last time. | ||
| Same kind of thing, very cold temperatures. | ||
| Skies were cloudy and gray. | ||
| The air cover couldn't help them. | ||
| The Germans had them right where they wanted to. | ||
| And what's interesting about this battle is, Steve, as you know from last stands, I mentioned every time the situation recurs and recurs. | ||
| We've seen all these battle circumstances before. | ||
| The Germans did the exact same thing in World War One. | ||
| It was called Operation Michael, Operation Michael, and they lost that one too. | ||
| It was a big push to the West. | ||
| They tried to split the Western forces. | ||
| In World War One, it was the Allies, and here it was the Americans, and they almost succeeded. | ||
| I don't think they would have won the war had they succeeded, but General McAuliffe and his famous Uh, response to the, uh, request for surrender by the German commander. | ||
| He said, nuts. | ||
| And they held on and they won the day. | ||
| And that, that resonates right now. | ||
| I would say, wouldn't you? | ||
| Michael, I want to ask you, you brought up this book, and this is why it's perfect. | ||
| Look, I had a daughter at West Point that served with the 101st in Iraq, but this is obviously for if you have young women in life that aspire to a career of service, but it's perfect for young men. | ||
| The question gets back to masculinity. | ||
| Talk to us about how did the virtues of a man come forward in these last stands? | ||
| I think it has to do with the physical differences between men and women. | ||
| Not to say women couldn't participate in Last Dance. | ||
| It's just that in the battles I discussed there were no women involved in any of these battles. | ||
| I think that the way boys used to be raised from the Spartans until certainly my own youth and yours growing up in the service or entering the service was that men fought to the end. | ||
| You don't give up. | ||
| You don't surrender. | ||
| You never lose control of your weapon. | ||
| You don't throw your weapon down and run. | ||
| All of these things were considered unmanly, cowardly, and we've lost the tradition of forcing young men to do things they don't really want to do, including die, for the greater good, for the good of the country, for the good of their comrades, for the good of their families, and that's what's weakened America, in my opinion, Steve. | ||
| We haven't won a war since World War II, basically, and there's a reason for that, and we have We have forgone the notion of total victory. | ||
| And without that, without going into a war knowing you must win, you don't win. | ||
| But that is at the senior level. | ||
| I mean, obviously the valor of our troops and the courage of our troops, whether it's Sean Parnell in eastern Afghanistan or the young men and women who served in Iraq or in Vietnam or Korea, we haven't, you said in the Cherson Reservoir, your example in the book, we haven't lost the individual initiative. | ||
| We haven't lost the individual valor, the individual courage. | ||
| Are you saying from a policy position, from a senior level position, we've lost this concept of victory? | ||
| Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. | ||
| I think our military, if given the job to finish the job, they do it. | ||
| But they haven't been given that job. | ||
| Obviously, in Korea, we were operating within the United Nations structure. | ||
| So that somewhat limited our ability to wage total war on the North Koreans. | ||
| Vietnam, we didn't want to. | ||
| And ever since then, we've just fought these kind of half-hearted wars. | ||
| And we're killing our young men and now our young will be doing A big radio tour, I believe, on January 13th. | ||
| So there'll be on, I don't know, 20, 30 stations all around the country. | ||
| Siri Adams. | ||
| So I'll be talking to a lot of hosts. | ||
| What we're doing here on your show, Steve, you know, going through the book, talking about various battles and how they apply today has been super, super helpful, and thank you for that. | ||
| Other radio hosts have had me on. | ||
| Our friends Mark Levin. | ||
| I'll be on Dennis Prager, I believe. | ||
| Hugh Hewitt. | ||
| The prominent conservative radio shows have gotten behind us. | ||
| And a lot of the conservative journalists as well. | ||
| So we're getting the message out there. | ||
| In fact, we're doing so well that the book has been hard to get on Amazon, but all of the reinforcement copies have been rushed into the breach and there's now about 20,000 more copies available on Amazon. | ||
| So you'll get those orders fulfilled very quickly. | ||
| Yeah, I ordered a bunch for Christmas. | ||
| They're going to come slightly afterwards because I'm going to be giving it to a lot of people. | ||
| Michael, I know you're one of the original editors under Andrew Breitbart at Breitbart and Big Government. | ||
| You're also one of the first guys to get kicked off Twitter. | ||
| So how do people get access to you? | ||
| Is there a website? | ||
| How do they follow you? | ||
| I would say, Steve, right now, come and find me on Facebook. | ||
| There's a lot of Michael Walsh's as the graveyards of Ireland and Australia and Canada, United States and New Zealand prove. | ||
| There's one living one and he's standing right here, sitting right here in front of you. | ||
| Go on Facebook, look through the list and you'll find me pretty quick there. | ||
| I've just petitioned Twitter for about the 99th time to explain why they kicked me off, what violation of the sacred Twitter rules I did. | ||
| And why am I not back on? | ||
| So we'll keep our fingers crossed. | ||
| Let's keep the pressure on Twitter. | ||
| That's disgraceful what they're doing to us. | ||
| We've got to bounce. | ||
| We're going to go through this 5,000-page bill for tomorrow morning. |
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