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Well the virus has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
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Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US.
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The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
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steve bannon
Welcome back to the War Room on the John Frederick Radio Network, on Real America's Voice, on Newsmax TV, on G-News, GTV, and Mandarin throughout the world.
Also with a podcast that has over 21 million downloads, is one of the top podcasts in the country, and I think number 30 in the entire world.
I want to thank everybody, our distribution partners, particularly the guys today in Denver and in Richmond.
They're helping us over this holiday weekend to put this on, day after Thanksgiving, Black Friday.
We're now going to bring on Mira Giuliani, but I've got something.
The engine room of the war room continues to work 24-7.
Just sent me a very interesting tweet from Mel Q.
Per the President Trump's executive order from 9-12-18, if Biden's fake transition team accepts federal dollars from GSA while knowingly involved in voter fraud, any person associated with this transition can be considered a co-conspirator.
Remember, this is all a faux presidency, a faux president-elect.
This is all nonsense.
Donald Trump won a resounding victory on game day.
That would be November 3rd.
Our next guest, Rudy Giuliani, is the man in charge of securing that victory and making sure it is not stolen from the American people.
We now bring in America's mayor, Rudy Giuliani.
Jack Posobiec, my wingman from One America, has been kind enough to come to the War Room today.
So, Mayor Giuliani, the mainstream media, once again, is dancing on your grave, which they do every 24 hours, right?
This is why you're resurgent.
You're the ultimate honey badger.
You do not care.
You just keep going forward.
They're dancing on your grave now because of the Third Circuit.
unidentified
Walk us through why they're wrong.
steve bannon
This is not a catastrophic defeat.
rudy giuliani
No, actually, it actually helps us because it gives us another vehicle to the Supreme Court.
Far better that they decided it quickly than they took four weeks and even came out our way.
So the reality is I don't think people understand the strategy.
The strategy is to get to the Supreme Court with three or four different types of claims, all of which come to the conclusion that this election was systemically fraudulent.
What I mean by that was it wasn't in one state or two or three.
It was in Six or seven of the most important states, and isolated to the crooked democratic cities in those states.
And they were always counting on this new method of mail-in voting, which had been resisted for 20 years because it's so prone to fraud, and they knew exactly what they could do with it.
So basically, they were ready to wipe out almost any margin that he had.
And, you know, had we been on the old system, they couldn't have wiped out some of these margins.
There wasn't enough room In the absentee ballots, only 400,000.
But when you have 2.5 million, 3 million, you can wipe out a big lead.
You do it a couple of ways.
You print extra ballots or you quadruple count the ballot.
You take the ballot and you put it in the machine four or five times.
Now, I'm not just telling you that.
We have about 20, 25 witnesses that will tell you that happened in Pennsylvania and in Michigan, which accounts for the disparity between The number of mail ballots sent out and the number counted.
Because they were more counted than was sent out.
Because they were counted four or five times.
Unbelievable fraud.
Unbelievable.
It happened in six or seven different states.
It was orchestrated by someone.
Because they did it all the same way.
And they were very confident that they could make up almost any lead that he had.
steve bannon
Okay, I want to get back to the three or four different strategies to get to the Supreme Court and do it expeditionally.
Here, I think, is what would be helpful for the audience.
The mainstream media said this is all baseless, baseless, baseless.
It's made up.
There's nothing here.
They call it baseless charges.
It's President Trump's baseless charges.
His baseless charges.
Ed Gettysburg, the other day, you presented witnesses that showed it certainly wasn't baseless.
Now, you may argue on the details, but this is certainly not baseless.
There is a basis here to go forward and to argue this and to be cross-examined in a court or to be crossed at a hearing by a state legislator.
Here's the question.
If your evidence is so overwhelming and so big and this is such a vast scandal, why is it that Republicans uh... legislators in pennsylvania in in arizona you've got a thing scheduled for at the money in arizona which sounds great but it's at a height regency with that with a selected group of republicans where are like the republican governor of georgia where's the republican
uh... legislator in uh... legislature in pennsylvania and where is it and where's the governor do see in the legislature in arizona why are they not say they go rudy's right this is overwhelming we want to see what he's got for our state let's call a special special session and do this Well, I mean, there's a couple of reasons.
rudy giuliani
First of all, if you want to give them the benefit of the doubt, they haven't really been... No, I don't.
steve bannon
No, I'm not going to give them the benefit of the doubt.
We're in war.
What are you talking about?
What are they doing?
They're politicians.
What else have they got going?
No, Rudy, I do not want to give them the benefit of the doubt, so let's start over.
Go ahead.
Without giving them the benefit of the doubt, what's your next one?
rudy giuliani
I don't think Ducey ever really was allied with the President.
He's extremely unpopular in his state.
He got elected by a 17% margin, but he hardly gets any applause when he comes out.
And I don't know what he's got for the President, but he certainly isn't an ally.
But the worst part of it is, if he doesn't embrace this, he'll be finished in the Republican Party.
unidentified
Look, this is an attack... But we don't need allies.
steve bannon
What we need is guys who just want to stand up for the rule of law.
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What we need is governors... Who want to do the right thing, by the way.
steve bannon
Who want to do the right thing.
rudy giuliani
They are trying to destroy our political party.
That's part of what they're trying to do.
If they pull off this election this way, by the way they manipulate the mail ballots, to the tune of millions of mail ballots they can manipulate, And they continue to have control of these crooked cities.
We could be ruined as a political party.
That's what they'd like to do.
They'd like a one-party system.
George Soros would have loved to have a one-party system.
We'd all become internationalists.
America would no longer be America first, it would be America second, or third, or fourth.
It would be China first.
steve bannon
Mayor, any political party that does not stand up for the rule of law and for actually counting all fair votes, it should be like the Whigs.
It's not the Democrats.
This is self-inflicted.
They don't have any moral justification for going forward.
They should be like the Whigs.
This should be like 1858.
They should just fade.
That's not a Democrat thing.
rudy giuliani
The Democrats should be splintering apart.
They're the ones carrying out the fraud.
We're asking them to do the right thing, and they're frightened.
I'm not going to say all.
I mean, we got some really courageous people.
I think they're going to turn around Pennsylvania, the guys who stepped forward and the women who stepped forward.
I think they're going to turn around Arizona.
And you know what I was told?
This will give you an idea of it.
I was told by one state legislature, we don't want to be the first one, but we'll be the second.
So basically, we're either going to get none or we're going to get four.
I'm telling you that, it's true.
They want a leader to follow, so it isn't just them.
And they want to know they have a chance to win, so it isn't a futile effort.
And they do, because there is overwhelming evidence of fraud in Pennsylvania, in Michigan, in Wisconsin, in Arizona, in Nevada, and in Atlanta.
Any one of those, the state legislature quite legitimately could say the actual vote Is Trump by 300,000?
Trump by 40,000?
Trump by 100,000?
Of the honest votes, the votes that are real votes, not the four-time in the machine where there's no ballot to even support.
steve bannon
Have you seen this?
And Jack Passova is going to jump in here in a second.
jack posobiec
I think he already knows.
Mr. Mayor, how are you doing?
Great to talk to you again.
Happy Thanksgiving.
I think the cat may have come out of the bag a little bit early on what you guys have in store for the Arizona hearing because Matt Brainerd just tweeted that he is going to present VIP findings in person at your Arizona hearing.
Is that right, Mr. Mayor?
rudy giuliani
Well, okay, I can say yes about that.
I can't tell you the full score.
It's a combination of witnesses and expert testimony, which is the way you do an election fraud case.
You always use expert testimony.
But I want to emphasize, it's witnesses too.
We have over 250 affidavits for Michigan alone.
We've got about 200 for Pennsylvania.
We've got 100 for Arizona.
These are human beings.
When I say affidavits, these are human beings who are swearing under oath that they witnessed a crime.
In some cases, just a few individual frauds.
In some cases, one case, he stood there while 100,000 ballots were just thrown in Not examined by any independent person, not even examined by the official of the election commission, who was throwing him in like this.
Never even looked at him.
And to the extent they could see it at all, it had Biden on the top.
unidentified
Biden, Biden, Biden, Biden, Biden.
rudy giuliani
They have stretches that we now can analyze where Biden gets 4,000 votes and Trump gets eight.
steve bannon
That's ridiculous!
unidentified
Are these those spikes?
jack posobiec
You had an incredibly poignant moment that I think has been played again and again from your Pennsylvania hearing where you talked about this spike of Biden votes, this 4 a.m.
spike in Pennsylvania.
Are we still going to see something like that in Arizona, possibly Maricopa County, that we've focused on?
rudy giuliani
Well, you're going to see something like it, maybe not quite as dramatic, but you're going to see that the machines had real difficulty getting back to zero or starting out at zero.
And you're going to see in some of the machines an early infusion of votes.
And I think I pay attention to the testimony on the machines there.
Remember, in Maricopa County, they were using Dominion machines.
And for all the propaganda about Dominion, Dominion is a company that specializes in stealing elections.
That's their expertise.
Their roots are Venezuelan.
They keep denying it.
It's absolutely true.
I think we'll be able to prove it scientifically that they are using Smartmatic software.
Smartmatic is the company that was founded for Hugo Chavez to fix elections.
steve bannon
I want to go back, and Mayor, can we keep you over for a couple minutes in the next segment?
Sure.
But I want to finish here for a second.
You just made a statement, and I think this is what, because, you know, we're the activist part Of the Trump movement, right?
Our listeners, as you know, and the people from around the world, this is pure MAGA, this is the populist nationalist movement, is right here.
The question they've got, you just made a statement, hey I have 250 affidavits in Michigan, and they all, it's not baseless charges, I have real human beings prepared to come forward and take all the abuse to the left.
But here's the question, the legislature in Michigan has not scheduled a hearing.
The legislature in Arizona, and that in Michigan, is controlled by Republicans.
In Arizona, controlled by Republicans.
In Pennsylvania, you've got heroes like Don Kiefer, who was just on here, following you is going to be Colonel Mastriani, who you know was a hero the other day at your hearing.
They're now passing resolutions to reverse a 1938 law to get them more involved in this.
They're trying to talk to leadership over the weekend to extend the session past the 30th so they actually are still a body that can address this.
This is not George Soros.
This is not the Democratic Party.
This is not the mainstream media.
We can't blame this on anybody.
You just said, do they think we're stupid?
No, sir.
They do not think you're stupid.
But they think the Republican Party is gutless.
They do not think the Republican Party will step up and stand up here in the breach.
It's why they want to destroy Donald Trump.
They, why they want to destroy this movement.
They don't, they think we're smart enough.
They don't think we have the stones to sit there and go, we're not going to back down for this.
So Mayor, with all of those, what are you going to do with, now you've done a hero's work to get all these affidavits.
You and Jenna and Boris, the entire team.
I tell you what, we've got 30 seconds.
Let me take a break here.
We're going to come back to you, Mayor.
You can cogitate on that response.
But no, they think Rudy Giuliani's smart and brave and tough, but they don't think the establishment in these states is smart and brave and tough.
They think they're gutless, and that's the problem we have.
We're going to return with America's Mayor, the President's lawyer, on War Room Pandemic with Jack Pasovic, Stephen K. Bannon, live from Washington, D.C.
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steve bannon
Courage is contagious.
New pandemic.
It's a new pandemic, and when you talk about courage, you've got to talk about America's Mayor, Rudy Giuliani.
So, Mayor, Understanding you're showing leadership.
And here's the leadership you're showing.
They can mock and ridicule you.
They can say you can't hit a fastball anymore.
You've lost a step.
Rudy's above his head.
He's not a constitutional guy.
All of that.
Right?
And you're just relentless.
You keep coming.
It's pure honey badger.
Okay, and that's exactly what's needed now, grit and determination.
So I want to go back to my question.
Is there enough courage in the leadership of the Republican Party in these states to actually, we're on the cusp of securing a great victory, right?
Or we're on the cusp of oblivion.
This is a binary function, right?
There's not any question here.
One or the other.
What are you telling our audience it takes now and what can they do to assist you in trying to put a spine into the gutless establishment of the Republican Party in states like Georgia, in Arizona, and in Pennsylvania?
rudy giuliani
Let the leadership of the party know that this is an absolute necessity for the future of our country.
And that it's not going to be forgotten if people are on the wrong side of this.
This is one of those things that 10, 15, 20 years from now, people will ask, what side were you on?
And if you're on the wrong side of this, you're going to be on the wrong side of the Republican Party and the wrong side of history.
And I think, you know, people tend to follow a leader.
And I think this does come down to getting the first legislature to take a stand and say there was too much corruption in this election.
It's quite clear.
That Biden stole it, and we're going to disqualify him, and we're going to give our votes to Trump.
They are perfectly entitled to do that under Article 2, Section 1, Clause 2 of the Constitution.
People have to go read it.
The state legislature runs the presidential election.
The state legislature determines the electors.
The state legislature determines, ultimately, if the vote that was given to them to select electors is legitimate or not.
And has the right to discount votes that are illegitimate.
And then you discount those illegitimate votes properly, and we win Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, easily.
We win Arizona and Georgia, which were quite close.
I think we win Nevada too.
So you don't need all those.
You just need three of them if you have Pennsylvania.
It takes a lot of guts to do it.
But I think if enough go out front, the people who are now frightened will just come along.
Because then they're not going to be standing there all by themselves.
steve bannon
In Wisconsin, Jack Paso has been reporting this entire show.
He's hearing from guys in the room that, you know, there's 19,000 of these IC rejections in Milwaukee County.
There's going to be more in Dane County.
They just announced that it's going to be sometime on Sunday.
They think they'll be finished.
What do you do once you get a state like Wisconsin, which the mainstream media is not talking about, and the reason they're not talking about is we caught them dead to rights on illegal ballots out there.
What's your next step?
Do you take it to the General Assembly there, or are you going to the court?
You're the strategist, you're driving this.
rudy giuliani
You know, the courts are so non-political, it's a shame.
I mean, the case in Wisconsin in a court is almost an obvious one.
You're supposed to have an application for every absentee ballot.
And when you count, and this is the law in Wisconsin, Who has the strictest absentee law in the country.
They almost don't like absentee ballots.
They basically say it in their legislation.
And they even say in the legislation, they want the law strictly construed.
So you have maybe 50, 60,000 absentee mail-in votes without an application.
The law says you count those out in the county in which they were cast.
You do that and he wins that election.
By about 40,000 votes.
If you just follow the law, if you have the courage to follow the law.
So that's why we have to also count on the state legislature because some of the judges make up the law.
In Pennsylvania, the language in the statute says that when you're counting these ballots, both sides have to be present.
You know what the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania decided, 5-2, the five Democrat judges?
That present just means you can be in the room, but they don't have to show you anything.
What would be the purpose of being in the room if they didn't show you anything?
You're supposed to be there to inspect the integrity of the ballot, but they can put you in the room and hide it from you.
That's a ridiculous decision.
You only make that decision for political reasons.
No lawyer No rational person would come to that conclusion.
I would be embarrassed to put my name on an opinion like that.
Well, that'll get reversed by the Supreme Court eventually.
But that's the length that these judges go to out of, I don't know what it is, loyalties to the Democrat Party.
steve bannon
Let me real quickly, because we're burning daylight here.
And speaking of burning daylight, the 8th is Safe Harbor, the 14th, the Electoral College meets in the different state capitals.
You're going to go to the Supreme Court.
When do you want to go?
And you said you had three or four strategies.
What are the three you've got?
When do you anticipate going?
And, you know, people are sitting there going, hey, the President is thinking about going to Georgia next weekend.
Isn't that Safe Harbor like a stake in the ground?
It's one we can go past.
The 14th, you can't go past.
And the President's actually said, hey, if he beats me in the Electoral College on the 14th, I won't concede, but I understand it's time to move on.
So when does Rudy Giuliani and the team, when are you going to be arguing in front of the Supreme Court as you see it on Friday the 27th?
rudy giuliani
Well, it depends on how we get there.
If we can get these legislatures to do what they're supposed to do, to do what the evidence suggests, Then we'll be in the Supreme Court as defendants, because Biden will surely take us there, right?
steve bannon
And if we get, right now, the two cases that we have... Okay, but hang on, Mayor, this is my point.
I got that.
But my point is, you don't have, in Arizona, Pennsylvania, and Michigan, with overwhelming evidence, and even in Georgia, with another Republican legislature, you don't even have a joint meeting set up yet.
You have one week.
In which state?
rudy giuliani
We have meetings set up.
unidentified
We have meetings set up in Arizona.
steve bannon
Mayor, that's a meeting with a group of Republicans that are going to sit there like in Gettysburg.
It's fantastic.
That's not an official state legislature.
rudy giuliani
We're going to put witnesses on so that the public can see the witnesses and therefore create the kind of pressure That will get the leadership to have to come along.
I'm not, I talked to those leaders.
I'm not convinced that that will turn into a hearing.
Pennsylvania didn't start as a hearing.
Pennsylvania started as a private meeting and we built it into a hearing.
So let us, let us keep working all weekend.
We've got, we've made a lot of progress.
You know, Michigan gave us a meeting.
Then they took it back.
And as soon as they heard about Pennsylvania, they called me up and now we're going to have a bigger meeting.
And now we're going to try to get the meeting from an informal hearing to a formal hearing.
So, believe me, if Pennsylvania takes this action, they'll all follow very quickly.
steve bannon
Is the buried lead here, the Safe Harbor and the 8th, we're just going to blow by?
It's really the 14th?
Because this is never all going to get done by the 8th.
It just can't.
unidentified
There's no reason why.
rudy giuliani
It can't get done by the A's, particularly the legislative part of it, where you don't have all those procedural rules that you have in court, where you have to make a motion to dismiss, and you have to make a motion to summary judgment.
Although we are going to bring another case, probably within two days, that would very quickly go to the Supreme Court as a backup, just in case.
steve bannon
Mayor, you're a hero.
Do you have a new podcast that's going to come out tonight?
Your podcasts are must-watch.
Do you have a new podcast?
rudy giuliani
I have one that I did here yesterday, and it gives you an idea of our strategy.
People have heard a lot about the case in Pennsylvania.
They haven't heard a lot about the case in Michigan.
And we show them the evidence in the case in Michigan.
The podcasts are good because it puts some eye to what the media is saying.
We have no evidence.
If you were to take seven or eight of my podcasts and put them together, we got about 25 witnesses and about 50 documents and pictures.
The evidence is there.
So this propaganda... Your podcasts are amazing.
steve bannon
How do people get to the podcast?
How do they get you on Twitter?
How do they get you on Parler?
How do they get to the website?
unidentified
I know you get a great team.
rudy giuliani
Rudy'sCommonSense.com is my podcast, and Rudy Giuliani for all the rest.
steve bannon
Mayor, you're not just America's hero, I think you're the hero also of the deplorables in the Trump movement and the MAGA movement.
rudy giuliani
I love being the hero of the deplorables!
Some idiot in the Times wrote that all these Trump people should be excluded from polite society.
And I said, I agree with you.
I don't want to be part of polite society.
I never liked the New York cocktail parties anyway.
A bunch of phonies.
steve bannon
You resemble that comment.
Mayor Giuliani, thank you so much.
Thank you so much for having us on, or coming on, and thank your staff for setting time.
Thank you, Mayor.
Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
unidentified
I guess that was supposed to be the Park Avenue... This turns into the Rudy Giuliani comedy hour after about a certain point in time.
steve bannon
Stand up.
I tell you what, a real hero.
We're going to take a short break.
We're going to get the state senator that really had the inflection point, Senator Mastriano, who's a 31-year Army colonel, veteran, Just like Jack Posobiec is naval intelligence, he is military, he's army intelligence.
We'll have them thrash it out in the next segment.
Jack Posobiec, Stephen K. Bannon.
Short break.
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steve bannon
This is a very special segment of the War Room.
We've got Naval Intelligence, a native of Pennsylvania, Jack Posobiec, and we have from our guest is Army Intelligence Colonel Mastriano, who is the hero who set the hearing up in Gettysburg the other day.
So Colonel, State Senator by the way, Colonel, give us an update on the resolution on extending you guys past Monday so that you still have jobs that you can continue to work this problem.
Where are we in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and where is leadership to step up?
It's great to have Don Kiefer.
It's great to have you.
You guys are warriors.
Where are the guys that are supposed to be the leadership of the Republican Party in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania?
doug mastriano
So as far as the status of the legislation, and I'll hit that on next, so that the House pushed theirs out a couple hours ago.
The Senate one, I'm waiting to see it punch up on my email any second here, hopefully soon.
It's the stronger version.
But here's the bottom line.
Who cares which version?
We've got to run something across the line.
And the intent of these two versions in the House and Senate, of course, this resolution, is to reassert our authority to pick the electors for president.
And so that was something that the General Assembly back in 1938 had surrendered over to the popular vote.
But I was assuming, of course, that our Secretary of State and Governor would oversee a fair election.
So thank God we have Article 2, Section 1.2 in the U.S.
Constitution to go by to reassert our privilege as General Assembly and oversee the electors that they go to the right person.
No, on the other side here, it's a bit mixed on leadership.
I'm not going to name names, but I think one of the four is fully on board.
The other three, I think they're inclined for a less strong resolution.
In this approach, because they haven't done anything like this in recorded memory, and obviously it's a bold step, but it's a step we need to take.
I think, you know, we need to start acting like co-equal members of this government.
Too many times we stand aside, you know, we see bad things happening in Pennsylvania under Wolf, and the past General Assembly hasn't done much, so let's act like we're co-equals as we are constitutionally, and this is one way we could do that, and we need to do it.
steve bannon
If this doesn't get passed, tell me what the other options are.
The media keeps saying this is baseless.
Well, I watched three hours of your hearing the other day, and it certainly didn't seem baseless to me, and it didn't seem baseless to 74 million Trump voters, because now Even The Hill's reporting, I think it's 0-3% of that 74 million believe Biden's illegitimate and illegal.
President Trump is now thrown down.
He's saying, hey Biden, you want to bring the country together, you've got to step in here and prove that your votes are certifiable.
But this all goes back To you guys.
And it turns out they're Republicans.
First off, you guys shut down on Monday.
What's working through to keep you guys active past Monday that can even be a participant in this?
doug mastriano
Yeah, I mean, it's a strange rule here that that's been in place well before I was even in the Army 30 years ago.
And so basically, every two years is a month long lame duck session that you would have a co-legal member of government put itself out of power for an entire month is ridiculous.
So what we have to do is because the terms of all the previous senators and representatives who didn't win their office or what have you, or, or new to the office, The old ones are gone on Monday.
That's their last day.
Period.
Constitutionally.
And so we have to figure out a way on Tuesday or Wednesday to bring in a new body to get us sworn in so we can stay in a saddle.
And so there is some movement on that.
I don't think it's going to be for a few days, though.
And Steve, as you rightly said, there's no time.
We have no time to play.
And so it's going to be interesting to see how we get the leadership to pull this off here, to bring in the new Republicans and new senators.
And that's a good thing.
We have a couple more in the House and Senate coming in.
So we have a more conservative, stronger body and maybe a better chance of getting this resolution passed.
But figuring out how to get us seated, it's going to be a big deal.
steve bannon
So what do you put, tell me next week as this thing rolls out, because if you guys go out of business on Monday, you're just out of it as a player, that means the only resolution they have is the courts.
What probability do you put that you guys will be extended and actually be a participant here?
doug mastriano
It's probably 50-50, but here's the thing, and people of Pennsylvania, reach out to your representatives and senators and get them on board.
Don't waste your time with me.
You got me here, and I'm going to do everything I can to get this done.
But obviously, we need a majority in the Republican House and Senate caucuses to stand up and say, hey, seat us now.
This is a state of emergency.
Let's go ahead and operate underneath Wolf's state of emergency.
Actually, use that against him for the first time, since he's been using it as a sort of damocles over the rest of the state.
And let's say emergency orders.
We're going in.
We're going to swear in.
We're not going to wait for all these other things.
The beautiful thing is, is, you know, Wolf and Buckvar, Secretary of State, has already certified the results, which obviously they shouldn't have since there's a lot of shenanigans.
But we can go in with their certification, seed ourselves there, and then probably disarm them and say the certification was not viable because there's so many questions about the security of the election.
steve bannon
Sir, how do people get access to you?
I know Twitter had you down.
I think they put you back up.
There's some fake Twitter accounts.
If people want to go see the real deal, where should they go?
doug mastriano
On Twitter, it's Senator Mastriano.
You can't miss that one there.
On Facebook, it's Senator Doug Mastriano, and it's also Doug Mastriano fighting for freedom.
Those are the only pages.
There's a lot of guys and gals, obviously, with spare time on their hands creating fake accounts.
Stay away from those.
steve bannon
Colonel, thank you very much for joining us here in War Room.
Appreciate it.
doug mastriano
Thank you.
steve bannon
Massive fight up there in Pennsylvania.
So pacific, I don't get it.
In Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Arizona, we essentially control the legislative branch.
And we can't even get a hearing.
Right?
We gotta be honest with people.
We can't get a hearing.
We've got interesting caucus meetings, like in Arizona on Monday, which is great.
It's movement.
But where we control these, in Pennsylvania's, unless they pull a rabbit out of the hat this weekend, the senator and these other guys are just irrelevant.
Because they've shut down.
jack posobiec
I was going to use an idiom, but I don't know which, I was going to talk about kindling, right?
But I don't even know if that idiom is allowed to be used to say you need to light kindling in a political sense, right?
And I think that's what some of these preliminary motions are, because you're having a situation now where Yeah, the venue is not in the statehouse like it should be.
It should be there in Harrisburg in the statehouse.
But we can get what we can get.
That's where it gets started.
When you can show these people, and by the way, people have been writing off Rudy, they've been talking down to him, they've been saying everything under the sun about Rudy, and I've heard every word of it.
But you know what?
Those witnesses that came up In Pennsylvania, in Gettysburg, that sat down, they're from Delaware County, they're from Philadelphia, they were data analysts, they were lawyers, they were serious people who had serious problems with what went on.
They had their own stories, some of them in terms of the chain of custody that was lost, some of them in terms of things they said.
And look, we're told, remember, you know, even under the Obama administration, you see something, say something.
Remember, see something, say something?
These people all saw things.
And you can say what you want about Rudy Giuliani or Jack Posobiec, and you can say a lot about Steve Bannon, sure.
And Raheem Kassam, because he's not here to defend himself.
But what are you going to say about all these witnesses?
And what are you going to say when they all come forward for three hours?
steve bannon
Michigan has 250.
250 in Michigan.
jack posobiec
They're going to Arizona.
Are they all making it up?
steve bannon
We won in 16 because I reached out to Reince.
We put a coalition together and the establishment got what they wanted.
They got judges.
They got deregulation.
They got a tax cut.
The deplorables got or started down the path of getting what we wanted, particularly confrontation with CCP, bringing manufacturing jobs back, more economic nationalism, the start of a border wall.
I could go through, you know, It was a coalition.
The establishment in these states has to understand something.
remember the way it was a coalition the establishment in these states has to understand something if you do not stand up now it's over They're all going to get, by the way, they're all going to get primary.
You're all going to get, you're all, you're all gone.
If you think you're going to, these people, they're not going to forget about it.
First off, we're going to make sure people don't forget about it every day.
jack posobiec
Eric Cantor, remember Eric Cantor?
steve bannon
Remember Eric Cantor?
jack posobiec
That's the model.
steve bannon
But here's the point.
You have to stand up today to have this coalition go forward.
If you do not stand up, and what is outrageous, Given the level of work and detail, and American heroes are coming forward at risk to their professional lives, their personal lives, and their family, to not give them a venue to be able to show how this election was stolen, and that Donald Trump is the legitimate
President of the United States and should be the one that is inaugurated at noon on the 20th of January 2021.
jack posobiec
Steve, I got two real quick comments on Senator Mastriano.
First, number one, I was looking over his deployment history, his duty stations a little bit there.
I wanted to ask him this, maybe if I get him back on, it wouldn't surprise me if he overlapped with General Flynn a little bit.
I think it wouldn't surprise me if those two know each other, because you can see some of that same energy.
steve bannon
In army intake, you don't spend 30 years in and out.
jack posobiec
It sounds like they may have been colonels together, or whatever it was.
steve bannon
Well, and Flynn is also legendary.
I mean, you know, a guy becomes a three-star.
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jack posobiec
No, no, no.
I served under Flynn.
Runs DIA.
DIA.
So I think that's just an interesting thing.
But then secondly, Steve, I've been from Pennsylvania.
I was born in Pennsylvania.
I've never seen a state senator work like this.
I've never seen... getting a state rep seat is the second best job in Pennsylvania and the number one job as state senator because you're making six figures.
I don't know if people know how sweet of a gig this is.
You get six figures, you get per diem, you get travel, you get a car that's paid for by taxpayers, and you don't have to do anything.
You can do nothing, and it's a four-year term in Pennsylvania, and you coast.
You maybe help get something signed, you go to the zoo, you get some money, you work out some earmarks for the people, and then you go to the park, right?
This is a guy, Mastrono, I've never seen a state senator fight like this before and that's why people are talking about him for governor right now.
That's why people are throwing his name around out there.
That's why he's got hundreds of thousands on Facebook and otherwhere.
It's because this is a guy who fights That's all he's doing.
He's fighting.
He said he's doing his job.
He took an oath and he meant it.
You don't spend 31 years in the U.S.
Army serving an oath that you didn't mean to keep.
No, he meant it.
So when he switched over, he continued his service.
Now he's serving at the state level.
We know that he means to keep his oath.
And so that's what all he's doing is putting the challenge out to every other state elected official in the United States of America, the 50 constituent states that we have, Follow your oath.
steve bannon
Real quickly, because the next segment we're going to deal with the 925th anniversary of the kickoff of the First Crusade.
jack posobiec
And we've got to finish up Wisconsin, because they're doing it.
steve bannon
Give me some Wisconsin scoop right now.
jack posobiec
It's out.
It's done.
steve bannon
Oh, it is?
jack posobiec
Excuse me, in Milwaukee.
In Milwaukee it's done.
I said it would be out by the end of the show.
Here we are.
We've got 14 minutes left.
steve bannon
Dane County is not going to be until Sunday?
unidentified
Dane County Sunday.
jack posobiec
Dane County is the one it's attention to detail.
steve bannon
Do you have a read on Milwaukee right now?
jack posobiec
It's 19,480 is the subset of the indefinitely confined numbers.
That's the largest subset.
That's only one county.
steve bannon
The ICs.
jack posobiec
That's almost your entire Biden's margin of victory in one county.
steve bannon
Right.
jack posobiec
It's only an entire month.
steve bannon
And you still don't have the early vote.
jack posobiec
And the media is getting it wrong.
They're saying, oh, well, the recount is just confirming Biden's victory.
We knew that.
The point of the recount wasn't to go over it again.
The point of the recount was to re-examine the ballots as a prelude to the court case.
That's the reason for the recount.
They're not even reporting those numbers.
steve bannon
Or you could go back to the Assembly.
You do have a choice of going there.
jack posobiec
That's right.
Now this is evidence gathering.
You're in the collection phase.
steve bannon
Listen, they're running and hiding from this.
They were caught Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to return in a moment to War Room Pandemic.
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steve bannon
We have breaking news from Twitter, Mr. Jack Posobiec.
jack posobiec
Twitter has gone in the pages of Newsweek to Colonel Mastriano, who is just on here.
Twitter says Republican State Senator Doug Mastriano's account was suspended in error.
It was in error!
Just an error.
steve bannon
I want to say this happened after we had him on the show and talk about this.
Just saying.
jack posobiec
All the errors go in one direction.
steve bannon
Okay, 925 years ago, on the 27th of November of the year 1095, in a field in Clermont, France, a Pope, Pope Urban II, gave a clarion call to go to the defense of Constantinople, which had been under attack By rising forces, I think the Selkirk Turks and others, and he gave a clarion call to go free the Holy Land.
One of the best books out there about the military conflict between Islam and the West is Sword and Scimitar by Raymond Abraham.
I want to bring in Raymond now.
Raymond, thank you for joining us today on a weekend we're going to be fighting all weekend to try to get a fair and legal vote here in the Republic of the United States.
I want to go back in time and talk about this broader conflict that's been going on.
Tell us what happened on that day.
People make it like the Judeo-Christian West were the aggressors.
We were actually in response to an onslaught.
Was that not correct, sir?
raymond ibrahim
Absolutely.
Good to be with you again, Steve.
What you're referring to, the Council of Claremont and the First Crusade, is actually the pivotal event of the entire Middle Ages, and this is well recognized.
I'll summarize it to you, but I'll also tie it with what's going on today, because there's a lot of fake news about the Crusades as well.
So, as you said, in 1095, Pope Urban called the First Crusade.
What was happening in the context, which we rarely hear, is that the Turks, the Seljuk Turks, had overrun Asia Minor, what we call today Turkey, because they ended up conquering it, of course.
Asia Minor was one of the most ancient Christian regions In the world that's where st.
Paul wrote most of his many of his epistles to and So right at that time literally the accounts talk of hundreds of thousands of Christians being not just killed but sadistically tortured burned alive Flayed and of course mass, you know sex slavery rapes abductions destroying churches thousands literally thousands of churches and
In fact, this is connected to what's happening in Armenia right now, in Azerbaijan, because right before, right then, around that time, in the 10, right around 1060, right before the Crusades, Armenia was being destroyed by the Turks and its capital, Ani, the historic capital of Armenia, was burned to the ground with over a thousand and one churches torched as well.
So that's the background.
And the emperor, the Byzantine emperor, contacted the Pope and pled with him and said, please help us.
We're both Christians.
And you see what's happening.
And at the same time, though, the Holy Sepulcher, the Church of Resurrection, where Christ rose, where there's a church in Jerusalem, was also under attack.
It had been under attack before that.
In fact, it was destroyed and it was rebuilt again.
And so it was a real mess.
And pilgrims were being murdered and mauled and extorted.
And they would cut their bellies open to see if they're hiding gold and treasure and this sort of thing.
So that's the background.
So Pope Urban calls for the Crusades.
And it had an amazing effect.
It just snowballed in Christians from Western Europe, from everywhere, mostly from France, which is, again, ironic because really the Crusades, not just the first one, were always spearheaded by the Franks, the French.
And it's kind of interesting to see where their descendants are right now.
steve bannon
France has gone through the Napoleonic Wars and World War I, so it's not the France that you had.
But I mean, in 1066, the Normans defeat the Saxons, you've got 1095.
These were principally Norman knights, right?
I mean, this was a call to arms that ended up being... the field army that ended up being the First Crusade was predominantly by the Norman and the French, correct?
raymond ibrahim
Yeah, absolutely.
The Normans, you have especially Bohemond, who takes over Antioch, but you definitely have a lot of the Franks.
In fact, the Arabic word for the Crusaders till today is El Frank, Franks, because they basically conflated any white Christian from Europe as a Frank, because that was the predominance originally.
But again, like you say, it depends on what you mean by Franks.
king richard was actually considered a frank uh... because of his sort of through his mother's life at any rate it was uh... from muslim eyes it was just european christians coming uh... and doing what they're doing it's just interesting because the message of the pope uh... imparted was basically what you're doing is you are fulfilling christ's two greatest commandments gods to grace may miss really which is love god with all your heart and that's what you're doing by rescuing the holy sepulcher
and the holy land because it was being completely desecrated and love your fellow man and that's what you're doing by rescuing The Eastern Christians, but I know because time is so limited, I'd like to just show you now how all that's been changed.
You know, this idiot, this issue that we're dealing with and what you're talking about today and what's playing us, you know, fake news and the media not wanting to acknowledge what's really happening and suppressing it.
This goes way back and it's really especially deeply entrenched in academia.
And so what I've told you right now, you're not going to come across this in any well-respected, you know, academic, prestigious publication.
They're going to give you a completely different narrative about how for 400 years, from the rise of Islam in the 7th century up until the Crusades, everything was fine until an evil papal play and greed and, you know, hypocritical Christians decided to go and just
Ruin it all and attack and kill Muslims and until today Muslims are angry because of the Crusades and that's why they're killing people Including a 9-11 that is actually believe it or not the standard version that you will get in an academic setting about the Crusades when in fact It's as I told you and it's what's happening today because if you look at what's happening today with Muslims Especially to Christians and Christian minorities.
It's the same story.
So it's a very unwavering continuity and and all around it It's spread past and present with fake news Raymond, we've got to wrap up, but the book is Sword and Scimitar.
steve bannon
It is a military history of Islam in the West.
Victor Davis Hanson and Daniel Pipes on the cover recommend it.
I don't think you could get two higher recommendations.
Raymond, Ibrahim, thank you very much for joining us on The War Room.
raymond ibrahim
Thanks very much, Stephen.
steve bannon
The signal, not the noise.
And the signal, hey, you gotta get down and focus on this.
You see what's happening in France right now.
jack posobiec
God wills it.
steve bannon
God wills it.
We're gonna be back tomorrow at 10 a.m.
It's a complete throwdown.
I wish we had as much bravery and courage.
That the Norman Knights had, that we had with these elected Republican establishment.
But as my co-host says, courage is contagious.
jack posobiec
Courage is the new pandemic.
steve bannon
It's the new pandemic.
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Vienna, thank you very much.
steve bannon
We'll see you at 10 a.m.
tomorrow morning.
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