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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
You don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
anthony fauci
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
When the policy differences are between maintaining American democracy and substituting racist one-party rule, you're goddamn right that we want to criminalize policy differences that might exist between the outgoing administration and the administration that is about to take over.
We not only want that, When it comes to an outgoing administration which is criminally guilty of trying to privatize the government, which is criminally negligent in the deaths of 250,000 Americans so far, and which is criminally liable for the current attempted coup, we also want as many members as possible of this corrupt, immoral, anti-democratic outgoing administration indicted, arrested, tried, and imprisoned.
We want enough of them in there that they can hold reunions and birthday parties.
We want the prisons so filled with Trumps.
And Trump flunkies, and Trump apologists, and Trump enablers that we have to convert Trump buildings into new goddamned Trump prisons!
barack obama
Um, people were surprised about, uh, a lot of Hispanic folks who voted for Trump, but there's a lot of evangelical Hispanics who, you know, the fact that Trump says racist things about Mexicans or puts, uh, detainees, uh, you know, uh, uh, undocumented workers in cages.
They think that's less important than the fact that, you know, he supports their views on, you know, gay marriage or abortion.
steve cortes
Americans, huge market milestone today with the Dow Jones Industrial Average printing 30,000 for the first time ever.
It's amazing news, especially if you compare the markets today to where we were just this spring in March.
Let's take a look at percentage gains.
I want to talk about Wall Street versus Main Street and then also U.S.
versus the world.
So the Dow is up 65% from the spring lows.
That's amazing and astounding.
But I'd really persuade you to look even more at the Russell 2000.
This is the small cap index, also hitting all-time highs today.
It has almost doubled.
It's up 93% off of the March lows.
Why do I think that's even more important?
Because these are small cap companies.
It's more representative of Main Street activity, and it's almost entirely domestically oriented in the U.S.
I think it's a better reflection of how the U.S.
is doing, especially relative to the world.
Now, let's look at global indices.
Everyone's doing well, okay?
These are Dow Jones indices.
All the stock markets of the globe are rising.
But as you can see, we are vastly outpacing our peer nations like Japan, Spain, U.K., and China.
Here, I think, is the takeaway, folks.
The United States is the exceptional nation in every way, including economically.
And the chief way for us to continue our exceptionalism when it comes to this recovery, this revival, which is the envy of the world economically, is to make sure we count every legal vote and continue with our entrepreneur-in-chief Donald Trump as our commander-in-chief into a second term.
steve bannon
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Wanted to tee up the show today at noon.
They're going to be at Gettysburg with a hearing with this Republican study group from the, I think it's from the Senate at Pennsylvania.
So you get all the heavy hitters from the Senate in Pennsylvania and they're going to be hearing testimony actually of, look at the evidence, affidavits, etc., of the President's case in Pennsylvania, how Joe Biden and his team did, as Tariq calls it, the finesse.
Right, and they're going to have the details, they're going to have a number of, I think, party chairmen from different counties like Montgomery County, Allegheny, some of these big counties.
They won't be cross-examined, there'll be questions, but Democrats won't be there.
But I think if this goes well, it will, this will metastasize and get the legislature in Pennsylvania on it.
In addition, It is rumored, and I think President Donald J. Trump may actually show up in Gettysburg, so it's a great way.
Wednesday, this is one of the best days of the year, the day before Thanksgiving.
Everybody's going home.
All the good people have left D.C.
It's just the hardcore swamp creatures.
Some of the posse here are going to actually get away and go spend it with their family.
I want to bring in now Steve Cortez.
Steve, we wanted that cold open to kind of compare and contrast Keith Olbermann and yourself.
The madness of Keith Overman.
And Keith Overman actually says the quiet parts out loud for what the left thinks.
Don't think they don't talk about this all the time.
Don't think Biden's sitting there going, oh no, no, I'm not going to have the Justice Department pursue anybody.
I would never do that.
You know, Keith Overman's the id, right?
What he's saying, and I know it's offensive, and we didn't quite get, I think, all the taking out some of the super offensive profanity, but you've got to hear it raw.
And that's what he believes.
Then Obama.
Remember, then Obama comes in, and I tip my hat to Donald J. Trump, the economic people around him, and Steve Cortez, who literally delivered the victory on the third they're trying to steal, which they're in shock about.
was the Hispanic and Latino vote was amazing.
So who do they blame it on?
Jesus.
unidentified
Right?
steve bannon
This was Jesus.
This is not economic nationalism.
Listen, everything they do is programmed.
They are not going to touch what I talked about in 16 and what the reality is.
They talk about identity politics, they talk about race, they talk about ethnicity, we talk about economic nationalism, we'll beat them hands down.
Steve Cortez spent four years preaching the gospel.
Of economic nationalism and vitality to everybody.
Working class Americans, middle class Americans, but particularly focused on the Hispanics.
And with your chalk talks and all that.
And people responded.
They responded.
Because right now it's class more than ethnicity more than race.
So Steve, I want to turn it over to you first.
I want you to respond first to Barack Obama.
And I think this is very important, because he goes right back to the same old playbook, right?
It's their religion, they're a bunch of conservative Catholics, and now the ones that used to be Catholics have converted.
They're even crazier, because they were referred to as evangelical Christianity.
No, seriously, it makes them even nuttier than the Catholics, right?
They're even crazier.
steve cortes
No, you make a great point about his complete disrespect.
He's unfortunately resurrected his theme from when he said back in San Francisco that they bitterly cling to their guns and their Bibles.
Now, listen, first of all, I will say guilty as charged.
yes, the Hispanic community is much more pro-life than the broad American community, something we're very proud of, and that's according to Pew polling, we are 17% more pro-life than the rest of America, largely because of this Catholic and evangelical nature of our community, and I'm not gonna apologize for that.
But for Barack Obama to try to diminish us and to try to consign us to being only wedded to one issue, of course, rather than complex citizens of this great republic, is unfortunately typical of the liberals.
You know, they actually think very little of minorities when it comes right down to it.
And economic nationalism has delivered for all working Americans, but most Hispanics, by definition, fit in that category.
So Hispanics have done particularly well.
Let me put some data behind this, because I don't just sloganeer the way former President Obama does.
In the totality of the United States, there have been 27 months where Hispanic jobless rate was below 5%.
26 of those 27 months came under the leadership of President Trump.
There was only one time in 2006 during the housing boom under George W.
Bush that the rate got under 5% in the decades that these records have been caught, have been kept, but 26 times it happened under President Trump.
Why?
Because of tax and regulatory relief, allowing small business to flourish.
Hispanics are by far the most entrepreneurial demographic in America.
We love to start up mom and pop operations that we hope become much bigger than that, but also smarter trade deals.
A lot of Hispanics are, of course, as I mentioned, working class people involved in manufacturing.
And let me again put data on this.
This is from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Non-supervisory production wages.
That's how they classify it.
So basically, the deplorables.
These are people who work with their minds and their hands.
Not salaried people, not managers.
Under President Trump right now, including all the challenges of the pandemic, most recent data right now, 14% wage growth for non-supervisory workers.
Under President Trump.
If I compare that to when Biden was last in the White House, when he was vice president, using the last four years of his administration.
So I'm not trying to cherry pick here, Steve.
I'm not penalizing them for the 08-09 recession.
If we look at their second term, they had only 9% wage growth.
So we were doing far better.
Let's put that in dollar terms because I think it's important for the audience.
In dollar terms at a 40-hour week, that means the average non-supervisory worker At the end of their term was making $797 per week.
Right now, $992 per week.
Almost $200 more every single week in the pockets of regular working class people.
Now, I didn't adjust that for inflation, but there's been negligible inflation, of course, in recent years.
So those are real results.
for working class people, including Hispanics.
And yes, Hispanics rallied to this message.
They rallied to the reality of what's going on in their lives, to the kitchen table issues that matter to them.
And I'm really proud of the fact that in this election, in the 100 majority Hispanic counties in America, the president gained 78 of them, which is pretty astounding.
He won 44% of the vote total in those counties.
That is an 8% improvement Over 2016 for him.
We have now built the president has led and we have helped him to build What is now a Republican Party that is a transracial?
cross-ethnic Workers movement and it is here to stay and this president is going to be sworn in again on January 20th But even without Donald Trump this movement is here to stay.
steve bannon
I Want to finish with the economic parts in the next segment.
We're gonna come back to the politics and the Keith Olbermann's and all that the I want to state, yesterday we had Jason Trennard on, one of the smartest guys that advises hedge funds.
He's talking about his concern on M2, the 24% increase in M2, what's happening with negative interest rates, the expansion of the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve, all the capital markets issues that are kind of hanging like a dark cloud over this recovery.
And I know we put up some enormous numbers and the stock market went through a thing and the President ran out there, but give us the Steve Cortez version, because you're both an economics guy that can look at the economy, the real economy, but you also are deeply involved in capital markets.
Are we just juicing this thing right now because we're printing money?
steve cortes
You know, no, I don't believe it.
Not here in the United States.
Now, the rest of the world, the answer is yes.
And here's the reality, and I pointed it out looking at the stock charts in what you played from my Chalk Talk, but I think even more important than stock markets, look, it's great, obviously.
It's wonderful that we hit $30,000.
I think it's even better that small caps are surging because, as I mentioned, I think that's more reflective of Main Street, of the dynamism of the Entrepreneurial and job producing small businesses, that segment of the economy.
But when I look at capital markets, you know, to address your question, is it a matter of just juicing it?
Not here in the United States.
We are truly the exceptional nation, including economically.
However, here's the risk.
If Joe Biden were to somehow be able to complete this steal and if he were to become the president of the United States in a few weeks, here's the problem.
The rest of the world is in absolutely enormous drag.
And this is not my opinion.
Again, let me put some data behind this.
If we look at Purchasing Manager's Index, PMI, that came out just this week.
What I really like about PMI reports is that they're done globally, so it's a true apples-to-apples comparison, unlike a lot of economic statistics.
And if we look at PMI reports, the U.S.
PMI services sector, we're doing great in manufacturing, too, but let me focus on services, because that's by far the largest part of the U.S.
economy.
It just hit 57.7.
That is a five-year high.
And to just quickly explain this for the audience, Anything above 50 means expansion.
It's called a diffusion index.
Anything below 50 is contraction.
So, we are well into expansion territory, as I said, at a 5-plus-year high.
If I look at the rest of the world, though, however, if I look at the Eurozone as a whole, the Eurozone is only at 41, deeply into contraction.
France, one of the worst of the major countries there, 38.
Japan, 46.
The UK, 45.
All of these peer countries of the United States, economically speaking, All of them are in contraction mode, deeply in contraction mode.
So, the risk here, and I think probably what Jason Turner was getting at, is that we have negative rates, unfortunately, all over the world.
So, believe it or not, I know rates seem incredibly low here, and they are by historical standards, but our rates are incredibly high compared to the rest of the world, and that's a good thing, because that means that bond markets believe in growth in the United States.
They believe in this PMI number.
They believe in our stock-op performance.
All of this is because of the policies of Donald Trump.
It's because of tax and regulatory relief and smart trade deals.
This is the elixir for American outperformance, but that elixir, guess what, goes away if Joe Biden becomes the president.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to come back and talk about that.
Steve Cortez, and you've heard it here first in the second Trump administration, if Larry Kudlow hangs up his cleats, remember the name Steve Cortez.
unidentified
We'll be back in a moment War room pandemic with Stephen K Bannon The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room Pandemic.
Here's your host Stephen K. Banham.
steve bannon
So my phone's already blown up.
I'm not kidding.
In the second term, and there is going to be a second term, put on the shortlist for National Economic Council head, Steve Cortez.
He's the complete package.
He understands economic nationalism.
He understands what the globalists are trying to do.
His hair's never on fire.
He's low-key, but absolutely brilliant.
I think the guy can articulate the Trump economic plan even better than Stephen K. Bannon and President Trump.
Coming from me, that's a hat tip.
I want to actually talk about, as you see, what Biden's proposing.
Steve, I want to start with the global, he's really going back to the trough.
I mean, these are retreads.
Not there's going to be a Biden administration, but he's getting, you know, Tony Blinken's a clerk.
Jake Sullivan's a clerk.
He couldn't get anybody to stand up for Treasurer.
You know the Wall Street guys, they're all foaming at the mouth to be Treasurer's Secretary.
They want that portrait in the direct lineage of Alexander Hamilton.
They worship Hamilton, right?
And they want to be Hamilton.
They want that big portrait over Treasurer.
Treasurer's got the nicest space, you know, since the state moved out of the old State Department building.
It's ten times nicer than the White House.
Or the West Wing.
So, Steve, walk us through what's obvious What Biden's proposing is just watered down Hillary Clinton, right?
We're back to neoliberal, neocon, and the economic policies are exact.
What's stunning to me is, given the success of Trump, you'd think they would try to put a different name on it and just take Trump's policies and run with them, right?
Because that would help the Democrats.
No, that's what I would do.
Just call it something else.
The Biden economics or something.
But they are absolutely determined to turn the clock back.
Walk us through what they're trying to do and why.
steve cortes
Correct.
And you know, listen, I would describe it in one word.
Retreat.
It's an absolute retreat from a place of success and prosperity and security for our country back to the days of globalism and all that means.
All the terrible deleterious effects for national security of endless interventions and wars all over the world, as well as an America that is economically submissive to international multilateral organizations, and most of all, economically submissive to China.
So he would take us back there.
Now, are there a lot of powerful interests In the United States clamoring for that?
unidentified
Absolutely.
steve cortes
You named Wall Street.
Wall Street wants to go there.
Big tech wants to go there.
University leadership wants to go there.
So there are very powerful interests in the United States that do extremely well from a globalist structure that subverts American sovereignty.
And benefits the evil regimes of places like Beijing, but does in fact reward these credentialed ruling class elites.
And Joe Biden is making no pretense about it.
He wants to retreat right back there.
And I would caution this, too, if he were to somehow become president.
Again, he's not.
We are going to win.
We won the legal vote.
We are going to certify that we won the legal vote.
But let's just say that Joe Biden was somehow able to complete the steal.
If he is able to do that, and I would caution Republicans about this, even if we hold the Senate, which I believe we will, there's a lot he can do on his own, particularly when it comes to China.
For example, he's already told us that he is going to claw back the current, very necessary punitive tariffs that President Trump has in place on China.
He can do that unilaterally.
And by the way, he has said that without demanding any concession at all from Beijing.
They just simply get it as a reward for Joe Biden becoming president of the United States.
So he has already telegraphed to us economically where he is going, even if he can't get his massive tax package through.
And by the way, if let's say things don't play out well in Georgia, I don't think that's the case.
But if that were to happen, well, then we're talking about the biggest tax increase in American history, $4 trillion of punishing new levies, which would absolutely crush this economic revival.
And again, as I mentioned in the last segment, America's outperforming the world in a market way, in a way that I've never seen in my 25 years on Wall Street.
What that tells me, though, is that when you're outperforming to that degree, it doesn't take much to tip you back, to revert to mean, where we would then unfortunately join the rest of the world, join meaning by going lower in our trajectory and join the rest of the world in the economic soup.
And we could end up there very fast with a Joe Biden as our commander-in-chief.
I hope these factors are motivating to the audience out there to stay engaged, to believe that we won the legal vote.
The statistical evidence proves it.
The constitutional case that the campaign is making in court now is extraordinary.
Extremely strong.
We'll see if anything comes from Dominion and the software.
That would just be a wonderful added bonus, but we don't need that to make the case that the President won this election.
But I hope that the economic momentum of this country, the revival that is afoot right now, from housing to small business to the services sector to manufacturing, what's going on in this country is amazing.
The way to continue it and accelerate it is to rehire, as our Entrepreneur-in-Chief, Donald J. Trump.
steve bannon
Why do you think, and maybe this is not the way to look at it, so you'll help me out here, it seems like the stock market is actually rooting for Trump's defeat, McConnell to come in, given all the great stuff Trump has done, and Biden to come in and have McConnell hold the Senate so they have this concept called split government.
Is that a false reading?
Is that an inaccurate reading?
And not the Russell Index, but I'm talking about the big boy.
Is that a bad reading of that?
steve cortes
No, I think you're exactly correct, and this is one of the reasons, Steve, why, look, I think the stock market is important.
It is A-gauge.
It's hardly the top gauge.
In my opinion, it wouldn't even be in the top five.
I'd rather look at things, wages, number one.
Number one, two, and three, actually, for me, is wages, because the vast majority of people, their economic prosperity depends on their wages, not their assets.
So that's why, look, we want stocks to go up.
Of course, there is a wealth effect from it.
It's a good sign of confidence in the country.
However, exactly the reason you're talking about it, you're getting that here.
Stocks can do very well in a world of economic submission to China.
And if Biden, if we were to have divided government, if we were to have a President Biden, but a Republican Senate, so the Republican Senate stops the massive tax increase.
Wall Street actually likes that.
And these massive Wall Street companies, they don't mind submission to China.
Why?
Because they don't have to pay American workers as much then.
The kind of wage gains that I was just talking about in manufacturing, and by the way, it's not consigned to manufacturing.
Let me give you another statistic.
Retailers, okay?
And talk about a business that has been challenged, obviously, with the pandemic.
The average hourly earnings for non-supervisory workers in the retail sector Up 17% right now during the Trump presidency, despite all the challenges of the China virus.
Compare that to the last four years of Obama-Biden, it was up 10%.
So we are crushing the rate of increase of pay for regular working people for deplorables.
But to get back to the stock market, a lot of large companies don't love that, obviously.
They don't love having to pay their employees more.
They don't mind having having cheap labor, in some cases, slave labor from places like China to produce goods for them so that profit margins increase.
So what Donald Trump has done, though, and here's the trick, I don't want to be anti-stock market, right?
And I'm not anti-Wall Street.
What Donald Trump has done, what he has figured out that his predecessors couldn't, is how to reward both labor and capital at the same time.
And this really, to me, economically, has been the magic of the Trump boom.
The first one before the coronavirus and the Trump boom 2.0 that is unfolding right now.
It is possible to both reward investors, to reward the capital class.
And at the same time, to make sure that workers' pay is galloping higher.
And how do you do that?
The main way you do it is by holding the line on trade, and that mostly protects the workers.
A lot of big business doesn't necessarily like that, but that protects the workers.
But then how do you reward big business?
as well with tax and regulatory relief so that the whole economy grows so fast that the capital markets welcome that part of the equation as well.
What we saw under Obama was only capital was rewarded.
And that's part of the irony, Steve, and I know you know this better than anybody.
We had, he claimed to be the most progressive president in all of history.
All he talked about was being a champion of the working man, President Obama and his Vice President Obama, excuse me, Biden.
The actual reality is during their tenure in office, Only the already successful did well.
Only the owners of assets did well.
It was a complete slog for wage earners.
And again, let me put a number on this, because unlike the left, I don't just sloganeer to put a number on it.
The top 10 percent of wage earners during the eight years that Obama and Biden were in the White House, they saw their household net worth increase.
The bottom 90% of America, almost all of America, saw their net worth decrease during the Obama-Biden years.
It was even worse for minorities, for black households.
Their average household net worth decreased 30% during the Obama-Biden administration.
They were a miserable policy failure when it comes to trying to spread wealth, to try to create wealth in a disparate and diffused way.
Instead, they concentrated wealth more than any administration ever has before among a credentialed ruling class.
This president has been exactly the opposite, rewarding labor and capital.
steve bannon
Steve, if you could hang on just for a minute.
We're going to take a short commercial break and I want to, I've got to ask you about the steal.
President Trump, it's rumored today, they're going to be at Gettysburg starting at noon in Pennsylvania, this hearing.
Rudy Giuliani is going to start to present affidavits.
Gateway Pundit's got a breaking story that Matt Brainerd and his team, the Voter Integrity Project, started putting up.
Affidavits and evidence right now.
President Trump, it is rumored, I think the Daily Mail broke it this morning, he is going to be in Gettysburg, and I think, say his piece.
Steve, I just want to pick your brain, because you've done, I think, the best job of walking through the analytics of this.
So if you can just hang on, and we'll just keep it for a few minutes after the break.
Any breaking news, Greg, Rahim?
I know you guys are all bouncing around here, particularly what's happening in Pennsylvania.
greg manz
So Boris Epstein has tested positive for coronavirus and the media reports out now are throwing the question whether or not Mayor Giuliani is going to go.
There's no confirmation one way or another.
So we'll be watching that because they have been in close contact these past few days.
steve bannon
Oh, he may have to do it by video.
That won't be helpful.
We need him in the room.
unidentified
The big tell, though, is here again the coronavirus is controlling our lives.
I'm going to make a bet right now.
Boris is going to be fine.
He's going to be having turkey on Thursday, but this limits our ability to run the country.
steve bannon
You don't think he's a walking comorbidity?
unidentified
Well, even the walking comorbidities really are not in that much danger compared to just a regular lot.
steve bannon
We have Steve Hatfield over here for one show, and all of a sudden Jack Max is back as a warrior.
Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
Raheem, you've got that pensive look.
unidentified
We're working on some stuff.
steve bannon
Okay, good.
When we come back, I'm going to get Steve Cortez's Uh, thoughts about Keith Oberman, who basically does it every night on the paycheck he got from Disney and ESPN.
Just remember that.
Also, Steve Cortez's analysis of the steel.
Also, John Samaric will be with us in the next segment.
Be back in a moment on War Room Pandemic.
unidentified
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steve bannon
Okay, welcome back to the War Room.
I've got Steve Cortez, Johnson Marisch, who's going to join us in a moment.
Steve, real quickly, Keith Oberman, he is doing this, whatever he's doing, his show or his website, his vlog, his live streaming for the Vitro.
And the reason people said, well, don't play him, I said, no, he's actually a very smart guy.
Not a good guy, but he's a smart guy.
And he's deranged now with Trump hate.
But he is doing that off a Disney ESPN check.
Does everybody remember that?
They bought him out or got rid of him and paid him off.
He's been over there for years.
I want you to respond because that is a certain element that's behind the curtain of this left and what they think about the Trump movement.
steve cortes
And Steve, they're not staying behind the curtain anymore.
They were behind the curtain, but they're starting to come out right now, aren't they?
People like Keith Olbermann.
You know, first one thing that I'd like to say is I look forward to seeing all of you in the camps.
At least all my favorite people are going to be there, all my nationalist buddies.
I'm going to go work out here this morning because I want to be ready for camp intramurals.
But listen, on a serious note, this is the left.
These are the nihilists of the left.
They don't believe in winning arguments through persuasion.
They frankly don't believe in the democratic process, small d. I brought this point up a lot when those statues were coming down in the spring and summer all over America.
I said they're not going to be sated, these nihilists.
with trophies of just granite and marble.
They're going to come for living, breathing human beings.
And sure enough, Keith Olbermann is telling us that.
Now he's saying it in a way of using the prosecutorial power of the state, but it will surely get more nefarious than that if we hand them the reins of power.
And again, I hope these kinds of statements combined with what we're talking about about the economy this morning, I hope all of this is compelling to the American people, to the deplorables out there, to the people who voted for President Trump, 74 million strong, to know, number one, intellectually realize that we won the legal vote, but then number two, to viscerally realize that we have to defend our very way of life and perhaps even our freedom when we have people like Olbermann talking like this.
And he's not just a crazy outlier shouting at the moon.
He's not.
We have heard similar sentiments, maybe not quite as bold, but similar sentiments from people in the whole public office.
steve bannon
Yeah, and he's got a big audience.
People understand.
Last thing, because I know you pressed for time.
You've done such an amazing thing, and you must keep these Chalk Talks up with the whiteboards.
It's incredible.
Because you take complex topics and you narrow it down to a minute, and you explain it tremendously.
Last question.
President Trump goes to Gettysburg today.
He and Rudy are making the first case in front of anybody that's not a judge.
And really, they haven't let evidence into the things.
What would you tell them, the two or three things they ought to focus on today, as you look at the math of this?
Because you've done such a great job.
What case should they put forward?
steve cortes
To me, the most compelling case, and it's Pennsylvania-specific, it's happened elsewhere, but it's worst in Pennsylvania, it's the worst case in Pennsylvania, is the absolute lack of vetting of mail-in votes.
We know that in the state of Pennsylvania, they literally only rejected .03, .03 of all mailed-in ballots.
That tells us statistically that there was effectively no vetting at all.
There were no procedures to try to scrutinize whether or not these were in fact legal votes, and I would argue that was by design.
By the way, Montgomery County, which I've been focusing a lot on in my work, I know you had Revolver on to talk about Montgomery and their work.
This looks to me increasingly like the epicenter of the steal when it comes to the state of Pennsylvania.
According to John Solomon's Just The News website, and I want to check this for other places, but according to his site, the rejection rate of mailed-in votes in Montgomery County, zero.
Zero.
Bagel.
No, no mailed-in ballots were rejected.
If you compare that to historical norm in Pennsylvania, it's 1%.
For first-time voters, first-time mail-in voters, it's 3%.
So I think the most compelling case they can make statistically is the absolute dearth of any kind of scrutiny of these mailed-in ballots.
And that is a 14th Amendment violation because it effectively creates two classes of voters.
One class that shows up in person presents themselves, presents identification, and presents a signature.
An entire other class of voters who are alleged voters, who literally it's just a piece of paper coming in the mail with no chain of custody and with no scrutiny or validation at all.
steve bannon
Steve, how do people follow you during the day?
steve cortes
Please, at CortezSteve is my Twitter, Cortez with an S.
Over on Parler, I was able to get my name in the right order, so I'm at Steve Cortez at Parler.
I'm going to be posting a Chalk Talk shortly on exactly some of these issues we've been talking about, particularly on wages.
steve bannon
Larry, if Larry Kudlow, I'm not saying he's going to hang up the cleats, but if he does for the second term, remember the name Steve Cortez.
Steve, thanks for joining us this morning on War and Pandemic.
Okay, I want to bring in Johnson Merrick.
There's another site, we love putting these sites up that maybe not enough people go to, but it's one that's fantastic, The Stream.
Particularly if, you know, we have a lot of the Catholic sites on here, particularly if you're an Evangelical or a Protestant, or obviously Catholic, but if you're Evangelical, this is a site you should be going to every day.
Amazing articles about faith, but also they tie faith in with politics.
John Zimerick is one of the thought leaders of our movement.
A colleague, he's been in a couple of films I've made.
He's got a piece that's got to be read and should be discussed over your Thanksgiving table.
The headline, letting the Democrats steal this election is real appeasement.
And he gets down to it.
And he's got an amazing quote from Winston Churchill that I've got to read that starts us off.
This is a quote from Winston Churchill to Neville Chamberlain.
You were given the choice between war and dishonor.
You chose dishonor.
And you will have war.
That sums up exactly where we are today.
And I bring on now John Zimerick from The Stream.
John, thank you very much for joining us today on the day before Thanksgiving.
unidentified
Thank you, Steve.
It's good to talk to you.
Yeah, in the piece I talk about, you know, the appeasement argument about Neville Chamberlain is often overused.
It's overused by neocons who are trying to get us into pointless foreign wars.
But I think today It actually does apply.
There's a great book called The Bell of Treason by a French historian, P.E.
Kake.
The Bell of Treason.
And he looks at what happened to the Czechs in 1938 from the Czech point of view.
He shows us the Czech military was strong.
It was half as strong as Hitler's.
It could have held out against the Germans long enough for the French to defeat them.
He shows how Hitler's tanks were bad.
They had not been advanced.
They were not strong enough to fight the French.
He didn't actually have much of an air force.
If anyone had stood up to Hitler...
In 1938, his army would have been defeated.
In fact, his generals were planning to overthrow him if the British and French fought over Czechoslovakia.
Instead, Neville Chamberlain got scared and backed down and sold out the Czechs, giving the Germans all the Czech tanks, the Czech tank factories, the Czech fortresses.
And then in two years, with all that additional wealth and power, Hitler was able to crush France and really threaten England.
Today, what do we face?
Someone who claims to be president-elect, who wants the power of the federal government, who wants us to shut up, to not ask questions, to not look into Dominion, to not look into the ballots of hundreds of, sorry, batches of hundreds of thousands of votes coming in in the middle of the night, all in the states that he needed.
What will these people be like if we find it unpleasant to stand up to them now, if we're not enjoying the abuse we take on social media now, when they don't even have the White House?
What will it be like when they have the IRS, when they have the FBI openly?
I mean, they'll be a lot more powerful if Biden takes office.
It's going to be ugly for us.
steve bannon
Now, and you're absolutely correct, what people also don't realize is that internally to Germany, they would have, if they had stood tall, and the Allies had stood tall, they would have backed down before rolling into Czechoslovakia at the time.
That's the key point, one of the key points, you've got to stand tall.
So what are you arguing today?
I think people get the threat, and what you just did, so we're actually, the reason this show's metastasizing, it's gotten so big and so powerful, it's the deplorables show.
And we give them actionable intelligence.
They're looking to John Zimerick, not just as a thought leader, but as a guy that says, okay, we can't back down, we know the stakes are as high as they get, and we see that GOP and typical guys are fading away, that's okay, that's going to happen.
Tell us what our audience should do on the day before Thanksgiving.
unidentified
If there are any MAGA rallies in your area, go to them.
Give to the President's effort to challenge the election.
Look at Sidney Powell's effort, see if you want to support that one.
Pray and get yourself mentally ready for the idea that we may prove this election was stolen, but we might That happened too late, but you know, constitutionally, to stop Biden from taking office.
What will happen then?
We really have to prepare ourselves not to be brainwashed and not to just go along to get along because the left has very dark and ugly plans for us.
And if you want to read more about it, check us out at stream.org.
I write five days a week over there.
steve bannon
The stream is unbelievable.
Let's go back to what they can do today.
People want to get engaged, and what I think they're concerned about is they see a lot of establishment types, a lot of politicians at the state legislature level and at the national level doing the fade right here.
They think of Trump as a bad fever dream and he's going to be gone, yet they're still going to get the votes of all the deplorables and all the financial support.
Biden's just taking the clock back.
To the neoliberal neocon of Obama and particularly Hillary Clinton.
We're just going to go back to the old-time Republican Party and that these deplorables, who all breathe through their mouths anyway, are just going to go along.
What would you say to the deplorables?
What should they do to combat that and to make people go to work?
unidentified
Let these people know, we're not going to throw Trump under the bus who fought for us and would fight for us again.
It will be like what they did to the Czechs.
We're not going to sacrifice Trump as a sacrificial lamb.
We're not going to betray him.
Let these people know, I will support your opponent in the primary.
If you don't have one, I will help find one.
If you do not support the president's effort to demand an honest audit, recount, Clear investigation of this highly dubious, Venezuelan-style election we were just subjected to.
steve bannon
This movement, this Great Awakening, is caught in a bind in Georgia.
In Georgia, the establishment has not helped Trump at all.
And you've got warriors down there from Sidney Powell.
She may file in Georgia, they say today.
You've got Lin Wood.
You've got the John Frederick Reagan, our partner, he's down there buying a channel to get up there.
What do you tell him to do about this runoff in January?
Because some people are saying everybody stay home and we know the enthusiasm is not great.
What would you say to the deplorables right now about closing the deal with Trump and supporting the election in January?
unidentified
You have to stop the Democrats from taking control of the Senate.
Or they will put 14 new people on the Supreme Court who will rule that the Second Amendment was actually a recipe for turkey by Martha Washington.
If you don't want your guns taken away, show up and vote for whatever clown is on the Republican line in this runoff.
If these people, if these Republicans like Kelly Loeffler don't end up supporting the President, we can deal with that in the next Republican primary.
What you don't want is a supporter of Fidel Castro in the majority deciding vote in the U.S.
Senate because then the whole Constitution, if they pack the Supreme Court, the whole Constitution goes away.
Period.
steve bannon
It goes away.
John Zimerick's at the stream.
John, what's your social media?
People can follow you during the day.
You've got to go to the stream.
It's a fabulous site, particularly if you're faith-based.
You must go if you're an evangelical Christian.
John, what's your Twitter handle?
What's your Parler account?
unidentified
In both, it's JZMIRAK, and just read me at stream.org five days a week.
God bless and Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.
steve bannon
Thank you, John.
Okay, we're going to take a short break.
When we come back, I want to have... I'm going to go around the table and get the assessment of Maxi Manz and Raseem Kassam on the article.
You've got to talk about it tomorrow at the table, right?
Are we at that inflection point?
Is that what this is?
If we back down, is this like what happened in Czechoslovakia in 1938?
And do we have an enemy that's actually not as strong as we think it is, and cowardly?
We're going to return with all of that in a moment.
unidentified
War Room.
Spread the word all through Hong Kong War Room Pandemic.
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War Room.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
We're here in Washington, D.C.
All the decent folks have left to go home for Thanksgiving.
I say that tongue-in-cheek.
There's still some decent people here.
But the town really empties out, so it's virtually a ghost town right now.
We're live on Capitol Hill.
You're in the War Room.
And by the way, tomorrow, I just want to say we have an incredibly special show.
And we try to mix and match.
We have some of the most powerful public intellectuals.
I think we've got Larry Swickert, who's the Patriot's History of the United States.
We have Heather MacDonald, who is the Law and Order individual you see on TV on Fox a lot, from the Manhattan Institute.
She's going to be on about this great article she wrote.
Are we now in a plight of Salem or Thanksgiving?
Are we the descendants of the Pilgrims or are we descendants of The people from the Salem Witch Trial.
Are we based in reason and grit and determination and vision and purpose?
Or are we caught up in kind of this irrationality about COVID?
She actually makes the argument.
And this is why you got to listen to it tomorrow.
She's making the argument in this article.
And Heather McDonnell is not.
She's not Steve Bannon.
She's not running with her hair on fire.
She makes the argument that we have put the country back hundreds of years, culturally, and as a civilization.
It's very powerful.
She talks about the problems we've had in the universities and how this has now played through.
It's called safetyism, and that we're afraid of our own shadow.
She gives a slightly more intelligent, coherent version of Maxism.
Jack and Greg will be with me tomorrow.
It's incredible.
unidentified
More attractive too, I will say.
steve bannon
Jack and Greg will be with me tomorrow.
Want to...
So it's just... it's incredible.
We also have Peter Wood, who wrote an incredible book called 1620, a critical response to the 1619 project.
Now have all three of these public intellectuals talk about the 1619 New York Times thing that basically were an irredeemably racist society based upon the first slaves coming to Jamestown.
And they make the argument that the founding of the nation was at 1620 with the pilgrims and walk through it very succinctly.
We also, in addition, Have people that are out there giving thanks through their works.
Right?
It's incredible.
We've got people tomorrow that are working with veterans in different parts of the country and in different things, whether it's housing, it's getting them out of PTSD.
It's just amazing.
So it's a combo, combination of intellectuals and really setting the framework for what the Thanksgiving is and We start with Tom Cotton.
It's about this 400th anniversary.
The 400th anniversary of the pilgrims of the landing was just in the Mayflower Compact, which is so important, the most important early document predicated kind of the guys come over and they cut a deal with the religious pilgrims with the entrepreneurs.
They cut a deal of self-government.
I think that really it's kind of the first self-government document In the world.
There may have been others, but this is one that the nation, the greatest nation on earth, was essentially founded on.
Hundreds of years before, what, 150 years before the Declaration of Independence.
It started there.
And so it's going to be an amazing show.
And I really want to thank The Real America's Voice and the John Fredericks Radio Network for helping us put it on on Thanksgiving tomorrow at 10 a.m.
to 5 p.m.
And I think we're going to have a rebroadcast tomorrow afternoon.
I want to go back and here's what look at the war room.
Two things we tried to we try to set a framework so that you can, you know, whether it's a pandemic, whether it's impeachment, whether it's capital markets, all these things that it gives you the ability to build your own mental map.
And we will help you with the nomenclature.
We will help you with process.
We will help you with critical path.
The things that have to happen, and then you can start to see and think through how things roll.
And that's what we do.
We get into the nitty gritty, particularly when there's a fight like this, but we also always love to pull the camera back and make sure you've always got, if you want to get through and have clarity in the fog of war, you've always got to keep kind of your eye on exactly what the objective is.
Zimerick is an absolute piece of work.
I mean, I love the guy.
He's legendary.
Right?
He's legendary.
Let's say he's not, his sartorial, he's not, he makes me look like Raheem Kassam.
Okay?
But, this article was very powerful, and this is what I love about it, just like Heather McDonald's.
These are breakthrough pieces that really get you to think about, and to start off with that quote he does with Neville Chamberlain, right?
With Churchill in his face.
Remember, people, just also remember, In the entire 1930s, in fact, Manchester's, I think, the second volume of his four-volume history of a biography of Churchill were called the Wilderness Years.
Churchill and Brahimi, he was a pariah.
You think that people think we're nutcases?
And the guys that hated him the most were not the Labour Party, it was the establishment.
It was the crown.
They didn't want his involvement.
They kept saying, you know, Hitler and the rise of these guys and the fascists, we're going to have to stop it.
And no offense, some of the royal family were playing footsies.
Not that their name was not Hanover.
unidentified
Jack's starting to get that tick right there.
steve bannon
No, so it starts off with that powerful quote where he told Neville Chamberlain.
Because Neville Chamberlain, remember, when he came back, ladies and gentlemen, he was, like, going to get the Nobel Prize the next day.
This is where the mainstream media, he was lauded as a hero.
He waved the thing, peace in our time.
And everybody goes, this guy's a peacemaker.
They didn't have the Nobel Prize, but this guy's the man.
Right?
This guy is everything.
And Churchill and these guys, they're war mongers.
All they talk about is fighting.
Right?
And Churchill told them, hey, you had a choice between war and dishonor.
You chose dishonor and you're going to get war.
unidentified
Right?
steve bannon
Which is the key point.
It's exactly what we're doing here.
Hey, look, everybody in this audience, we could all All just, let's go home for Thanksgiving, and let's have a good time, and let's just forget about it, and Trump just goes on, and you know, he'll go down to Mar-a-Lago and work on his handicap, and you know, maybe he'll do this, and maybe he'll start a channel.
That's what he'll do, he'll start a channel.
We'll all go watch that.
Right?
And let's just, you know, it's just too tough and too hard.
unidentified
No.
steve bannon
They're in your face.
They know exactly what they did.
They know the ballot stuffing in those key cities.
You just look at the math here.
They're supposed to be so science evidence-based.
And this is up in your face.
If we allow this to go on, and it was that great woman that Ben from Real America's Voice, Got in Arizona three weeks ago, where she goes, she says something deplorable with the red hat, and she's sitting there going, hey, this is bigger than Trump.
This is about the country.
This is about the Republic.
This is about our founding documents.
This is about if our generation, this generation today, has the stones to stand up and face this thing down.
Okay, I've rambled all the way through this.
But we're going to get the response.
unidentified
Jump in here, guys.
steve bannon
I tell you what, we're going to come back and we're going to go around the table because I want to hear everybody's take on exactly where we are and tie this American Cortez together.
Okay, we're also going to get into much more details about today is the first day of actually showing the evidence.
He's going to be in Pennsylvania with Rudy and I think in a court in Georgia with Sidney Powell.
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