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In this hour, we've got a lot to go through.
We've got a couple of other states.
I want to talk about some math and some numbers, but we're very honored to have Brandon Strock from the walk-away movement and to have Ben Burquam has done such an amazing job out in the field with Rural America's Voice.
Brandon, you know, it's not often I meet guys, people that are more controversial than I am.
Your story's amazing.
I want to talk about the walk-away movement.
Also, what you risked in this election, because, you know, the hate is coming for everybody, but particularly you, because you're an apostate, right?
You're the worst.
Right.
No, you're the worst.
brandon straka
And a minority one.
steve bannon
Yeah, a minority, exactly, which makes you the worst of the worst.
brandon straka
The worst of the worst.
steve bannon
You come from the victims category, and you're an apostate, and you're a speaker of truth, so they've got to kill you, right?
brandon straka
Right.
steve bannon
I'm just an old right-wing, you know, white guy.
So walk through, not just your moment of clarity, Let's walk away.
Did you know you were risking everything in doing it?
And these results, at least as we're in hang fire right now, with an obvious victory that's being stolen, unless we close on it.
Where are you right now?
brandon straka
Well, I mean, if your question is, did I realize I was risking everything?
So by the time I started WalkAway, I had already lost the majority of my friends.
So that was already kind of a done deal because I didn't create WalkAway like the day I decided to walk away.
I decided to walk away in early 2017.
I voted for Hillary.
So, but once, you know, Trump's election is what got me kind of researching, trying to understand what was actually happening and why reality didn't seem to be matching up with what the news was telling me.
You know, and then ultimately what I discovered was that Donald Trump was not my enemy.
The media was my enemy.
But when I started speaking out about that, you know, just subtly at first, I was just, you know, this guy who had, you know, 40 followers on Twitter and who was a hairstylist and aspiring actor.
And I just started, you know, I knew it was controversial, the things that I was discovering.
So I was trying to very subtly bring these topics up.
Is the Muslim ban really a Muslim ban?
You know, just questions like that.
You know, like just asking questions like that made people go insane.
And so I lost the majority of my friends throughout 2017.
So when I launched WalkAway in May of 2018... Hang on a second.
steve bannon
Back in those days, when you came to see this information, and you said, hey, I want to talk to you about this.
Did it shock you at the time that people had been close friends of yours, or buddies of yours, all of a sudden, like, I don't want to hear about it, you're out?
brandon straka
Oh yeah, I mean the whole situation turned my world upside down and I would honestly describe it as kind of traumatizing because if you can imagine coming to a realization, and again this didn't happen overnight, it happened over the course of months, but who cares how long it took?
I mean you get to this point where you realize nearly everything that you ever believed was reverse, upside down, backwards, inside out, and that in itself is kind of a traumatizing discovery.
But then when you also discover that you can't even talk about it with anybody, because when you try to bring it up with your friends, they turn on you.
You know, it's like people kind of aren't, it's not an exaggeration when people say it's a lot like coming out as gay used to be before.
The secret that you have to keep inside, because if you tell people, they'll turn on you.
Or you might lose your job, or you might lose your parents, or your friends, or whatever.
So yeah, I mean, it was really unsettling.
steve bannon
I want to still stay back in that time.
What is it?
Because we saw this as populist and nationalist in Trump with the Republican establishment, but never to that degree.
There was hatred, there was disgust, there was, you know, how could this guy, you remember, how could you even think about this guy?
But from a liberal or progressive or somebody who was a moderate that was not part of the conservative politics of the Republican Party, What was it, as you look back in time, that triggered the orange man bad attitude back then, where you couldn't even have a... let's have a discussion about his policies, but it was all orange man bad, no, shut up, get out of here.
brandon straka
Right, well, I mean, first of all, as I've said many times before, the Democrats have done an incredible job of marketing themselves as the party that cares about, you know, marginalized communities of people, poor people, immigrants, black people, brown people, LGBT people, anybody who they deem to be disenfranchised.
And, I mean, who doesn't want to buy into that narrative?
Who doesn't want to buy into, well my problems aren't my fault, they're white guys' fault.
They're straight white people's faults.
It's not my fault that I don't make much money or that I don't have the job of my dreams or whatever.
That's your fault and your fault and your fault.
So it's an easy thing to buy into, I think.
But I remember around 2015-16, I was in much better shape back then than I am today.
So I was going to the gym every day, and I'd be on the treadmill watching CNN, because, you know, they don't put Fox News on the gym or at the airport.
And I would be on the treadmill just sort of watching this story unfold.
And, you know, at first it was, ha ha ha, Donald Trump's running for president, he's a buffoon.
And then instantly, as his movement started to gain more and more steam, it was like, oh, this isn't so funny anymore, now we need to make him Hitler.
So over that, it just sort of turned around overnight.
And I remember watching, the first thing that I remember was he called, you know, all Mexicans rapists.
And I was like, he said what?
And then it was, but for me, the thing that was really, I think the most unsettling was that he mocked a reporter's disability.
And that's kind of my story too, was the discovery that that's not what happened.
But it was all, it was, you know, Trump calls Mexicans rapists.
Trump mocks a reporter's disability.
That was a really big one.
Uh, you know, Trump wants to ban all Muslims.
And then of course there was the Access Hollywood tape.
And it was like these things just started to kind of add up one after another after another and they painted him as like the most depraved immoral man and then he has this legion of followers and then of course they would also go to his rallies and they would show footage of like a black person getting ejected from the rally.
They failed to mention the black person like punch somebody or spit in somebody's face or something like that.
It was just a bunch of redneck white guys throwing a black person out of a Trump rally and it was just it was horrifying.
They painted a very horrifying picture.
steve bannon
So when you made this, you hit this inflection point, you started this journey.
Walk us through that.
brandon straka
Right.
So I believed, you know, CNN, MSNBC, The New York Times, Rachel Maddow, BuzzFeed, Vice, all of these.
So on election day, I wake up excited to have my first woman president party at my apartment with my friends.
And, you know, and I turn on, you know, my good friend the Huffington Post and the Huffington Post says, you know, she's got a 99% chance of winning now.
He has a 1% chance of winning.
And I'm going, Oh, this is going to be the, you know, we're really going to crush white supremacy today.
This is so good.
So as the day is unfolding and his numbers are going up and up and up, and I literally was having a little viewing party at my apartment.
I went to bed that night.
I called it I mean everybody left totally deflated and they hadn't even called the election yet but we were all like getting sick and like didn't understand what was happening so all of my friends left around I know 10 11 o'clock or something and I got into bed at midnight they still hadn't called it on you know on the east coast And every like 10 minutes, I was just refreshing the Huffington Post over and over again, hoping that, you know, maybe 170 new electoral votes had come in for Hillary Clinton.
And somewhere around 2.15 in the morning, I refreshed the Huffington Post and there was a picture of Trump with a giant red banner that read, Nightmare, President Trump.
And then underneath it, it said, millions to lose their health insurance, civil rights to be rolled back, dot, dot, dot, and other possible headlines from a Trump presidency.
So they start predicting the future of what the news headlines were going to be.
And so I had to call in sick to work the next day.
I was working as a hairstylist.
I had to cancel all of my appointments.
It was very dramatic.
I said, I can't be anywhere near scissors today or bleach.
Um, and so I, I literally, I canceled all my appointments and I did what any well-adjusted thinking person would do.
I got on Facebook and started crying.
And I started, uh, I was just like, what, why would you do?
You know, I grew up in Nebraska, in a tiny little town, Nebraska.
So I knew all of these horrible people had done, had done this to me, to me.
And to America, and I was like, why would you guys do this?
Why would you do that?
Well, like, what did I do to you?
And no one would answer me.
And this went on for weeks and weeks, and I was just becoming more and more infuriated.
I was like, you guys intentionally ruined America.
I demand an explanation, and no one would give it to me.
And finally, in January of 2017, I wrote on Facebook that I would never be able to understand how anyone could vote for a man Who was capable of standing before a cheering crowd and mocking a reporter's disability.
And finally, that is the moment when somebody reached out to me privately on Facebook and said, look, I'm not trying to start a fight with you here.
I'm just going to give her a shout out.
Diane Beck, if you're watching, she was my babysitter when I was a kid.
steve bannon
Yeah.
From Nebraska.
brandon straka
Yeah.
steve bannon
Saved by the heartland.
Saved by the heartland.
The awakening comes from the heartland of this country, just saying.
brandon straka
She's a very modest person, but at the same time every once in a while she'll message me and she'll be like, I noticed you told the story about me, but didn't mention my name.
So Diane Beck reached out to me privately on Facebook and and she said look I'm not trying to I'm not trying to start anything with you I'm just asking have you seen this and it was she sent me a link to a video that was entitled something like debunking that Trump mocked the disabled reporter you guys all know the compilation of footage right?
So I watched it and it just blew my mind.
And I had this moment where I sort of dissociated from my body a little bit because literally my brain was saying, oh my god, I don't think he mocked that reporter's disability.
But my heart was like, but we hate him!
But we hate him!
And I had to watch it three times and then go to bed and watch it again the next day before I could accept it.
And I was like, wow, I really don't think he actually mocked that reporter's disability.
But then why did CNN tell me that he did?
And so that's what started this whole journey to try to understand was this an anomaly?
Did everyone just make a mistake?
CNN had never lied to me before.
What went wrong at CNN on that day?
So I went on a journey to try to understand, you know, does the media lie?
And if the media lies, how often is this happening and why?
What is their end game?
And that's what began this journey that just changed my life forever.
steve bannon
When did you get the idea of actually starting a movement?
It's one thing to have an individual awakening and aha moment and disagreement with friends.
When did you decide, hey, I want this to be something, this needs to be something bigger?
brandon straka
Well, that happened because as I was sort of, you know, basically attaining this catalog of examples of the media lying and creating all these false, like I just said, the Mexicans rapists, the Muslim ban, all of these different things that they spin, Well, I started to see the way that they do this to minorities particularly, if you're black, if you're brown, if you're LGBT, the amount of fear that they're injecting into these communities to control the way that people feel and ultimately the way they think and ultimately the way that they vote.
And that's what pissed me off more than anything.
I've said before, and I'll say again, hell hath no fury like a gay man scorned by the Democrat Party.
I mean, once they pissed me off, I was like, no, now it's on.
I want to take these guys down.
So I decided to create a movement where I could try to message to black people, brown people, LGBT people, Jewish people, and all people really to see, look, we're being lied to, we're being manipulated, and we're being used.
steve bannon
So when you first did it, what happened?
Did your friends just say, hey, you've, you've, it's one thing to break from the herd.
It's another thing to go crazy and try to take others with you.
brandon straka
Yeah.
Am I allowed to swear on this show?
Okay.
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All right.
brandon straka
Okay.
Well, they said, they said, Brandon, you're crazy.
Um, yeah, no, I mean, people were getting really pissed off at me.
steve bannon
Your friends.
brandon straka
Yes.
Yeah.
steve bannon
Um, cause then it was no longer funny.
Hey, now it's serious.
brandon straka
Right.
Oh, you're saying after I started walk away?
steve bannon
Yeah, when you started even the thing of trying to do more than just yourself, that's when you really got blowback from your friends?
brandon straka
Yes, well, I launched WalkAway by putting out a six-minute video where I kind of detailed everything that I was walking away from, from liberalism and the Democratic Party.
Yeah, and that video went really viral, really fast over the course of several months, and yeah, all of my friends were sending...
Like, they would send it back to me and they'd be like, you know, everybody's laughing at you, you've made a fool out of yourself, you'll never recover from this, you'll never... You'll never work in this town again.
Right, right.
steve bannon
Let's take a short break, sell some ads here, we're going to come back.
We've got Ben Berquam from Real America Voice, Brandon Strock from the WalkAway Movement talking about his journey.
We're also going to talk about this big rally tomorrow and I guess also Sunday.
It's a whole weekend of Activity to try to stop the steal and close on President Trump's victory.
We will return in just a moment.
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steve bannon
I really want to thank the team at G-News and G-TV that are subtitling this immediately in Mandarin and blowing it through the firewall into mainland China.
So it's absolutely incredible.
Ben Burcombe looked at his camera too much and actually tried to walk out of the room.
It's walking away from the set.
We've got Brandon Schrock and we've got Ben Berquam from Real America, Brandon Stock from Schrock from the walkaway movement.
Okay, when you started doing the rallies and you first came in and started meeting conservatives, did you ever think that you, because you were You were actively embraced there for a while because your message was so fresh and your energy.
You were doing rallies and these rallies were so diverse.
The stories that you had up on that stage, I remember watching some of these, were just incredible.
Did you think you'd be accepted and rejected by the folks you've always been associated with?
brandon straka
Well, okay, so let's take it just a step back.
So when I started WalkAway, we started as a testimonial campaign.
We asked people to make videos and written testimonials telling their stories.
And that's the first thing that really blew up.
And once we got to the end of 2018, and we got through those midterm elections, you know, we were only five months old at that point.
Um going into 2019 we recognized that okay we need to shift now into something beyond social media.
This we've got something that really has legs here and now we have to do outreach and make it make it something.
And so that's when we started doing um events and I was laughing a little bit because you said rallies and it's like it's almost hard to remember a world before COVID at this point.
But it wasn't rallies at first.
It was indoor town halls that we were doing in 2019.
So we were traveling around doing the first one that we did was the Black Americans Town Hall.
We launched that in New York City.
And then we did a bunch of those around the country.
We did LGBT town halls, which I'm really proud of because I really think we're pretty much the only organization that's marketing to the LGBT community outside of the left.
And then we did Hispanic events and things like that.
It continues to be kind of a growing and learning experience for me because yes I mean I wouldn't have done any of this if I truly felt like people on the right were you know homophobic or people on the right were racist whatever I wouldn't be trying to sell this message if I was like you didn't really believe in it you know but I think that even I
I think I underestimated how open people on the right are because I do remember in 2019 when I was doing events I was still in this space where I was like well conservatives don't like bad words and conservatives don't like you know and like I can't say anything controversial about religion and I can't you know so I was a little more straight-laced about everything I was doing at first and then it was actually people on my panels and at my events that were like letting f-bombs fly and you know questioning religion and stuff and I was seeing the audience like ah
And I was like, oh, I can kind of be a little more myself, you know, because I'm not I have a totally foul mouth, you know all the time and I and I'm very Skeptical, you know, I don't I was raised Catholic, but I have a lot of questions about God and religion and you know it's not something I just easily embrace without scrutiny and so now I feel like very authentically myself and I feel very welcomed and embraced just For who and what I am in the conservative movement.
steve bannon
How many events did you do in 2020 in the lead up to this?
Because we talked to you months ago and you were in the middle of rallies.
I remember they had the DC rally.
You've been doing these all over.
How many did you have in the run up to 2020?
brandon straka
Eighteen.
steve bannon
Eighteen?
brandon straka
Yeah.
And that just started in July.
steve bannon
All over the country?
brandon straka
Yes, sir.
Yes.
steve bannon
And what was the response?
brandon straka
Well, from who?
BLM?
steve bannon
Did you get attacked pretty visibly?
brandon straka
Yeah, so the response, I think, from people in the center and people on the right was great because the main reason why we launched these rallies, which we launched in either late June or early July, we called them Walk Away Rescue America rallies.
We started doing these because, you know, we had to throw out the playbook because of COVID, all the plans that we had for the year.
And then, you know, kind of figure out what do we do next?
Well, that question was easily answered when BLM started bashing out everybody's windows and burning everyone's, you know, houses and businesses to the ground.
And I just sat back going, is anybody going to do anything about this?
Are we, you know, because like nothing was happening.
And so I was like, well, you know, it's better to do something than nothing.
So I decided to launch these rallies, knowing that we'd get attacked for encouraging people to come out and gather in public, but no one seemed to care when BLM did it.
So we went around to all of these different areas where BLM was causing so much trouble, and we encouraged conservatives and people in the middle, or even, hell, I don't care, Democrats, if you hate BLM and you're against what they do, join us, because this is really anti-American and disgraceful.
steve bannon
But let's go back to your town halls.
The first couple town halls you had were black How do you guys confront or engage with when BLM and Antifa are talking about systemic racism and wokeness?
can you break away from the Democratic Party these policies?
Yes sir. How do you guys confront or engage with when BLM and Antifa are talking about systemic racism and wokeness? Right. Because you guys are like I said are apostates. Right.
So how do you, what are your arguments, when you get there and have this debate between the wokeness of BLM versus what you guys stand for, right, which is some interim thing to what many people on the right stand for, what is that engagement there?
What is that debate between you and the woke, the Brooklyn, I take it you're from, you were living in New York City?
brandon straka
Yes sir.
steve bannon
In Brooklyn or in Queens?
brandon straka
Harlem.
steve bannon
In Harlem?
So the hippest of the hip, up there in their 125th street?
brandon straka
Yeah, the black folks, that's my people.
steve bannon
So how does that engage with, somebody that's in the walk-away movement, engage with the woke movement?
brandon straka
Well, okay, so one thing that I feel I have a talent for is spotting other talent.
So as people are turning in their testimonials, and I'm just getting to know people in the conservative movement, I'm looking around and I'm thinking, this person is a very powerful speaker, or this person has a powerful story to tell.
So I sort of collected the people that I thought were, you know, I was like, wow, these people really impress me, they'll probably impress other people too.
And those are the people that I put on my stage to talk to our audiences.
And we really tried to, you know, push this as a town hall.
Look, if you don't like what we have to say, you get to talk, you get to stand up, ask questions, challenge us, debate us, whatever you want to do.
And so for you know and one thing I think I do a little bit differently and I and I really like to challenge conservatives on this because it just drives me crazy the way conservatives believe this stupid notion that you can only only black people can talk to black people and only Hispanic people can talk to Hispanic people and you know it's like because all these white conservatives are just like oh thank God for all these black people who are speaking up now it's like well why weren't you?
You know, I mean, black people love good ideas, you know, and I think black people will listen to good ideas.
And so I didn't make it a focus to only have black people at my event, but I just found the people I thought were really powerful speakers with powerful stories, brought them together.
We would rent out a movie theater at cities across the country because we put together our own documentary movie, which was created using 20 testimonials from black Americans who walked away.
We made a movie out of it, and it's amazing.
We would show that movie for free, and then we would have a panel discussion with the audience and debate.
And ultimately, I think to answer your question, it's people start to recognize, when you're really hanging on to the victim narrative, it becomes a little pathetic.
And I think that you start to recognize that when, let's say you're sitting there in the audience, you've got a panel of people who used to believe what you believe, they've walked away, and now they're saying, look, life is so much better when you embrace your own power and you stop with this victim-y, oppressed, you know, and then people stand up and they're like trying to tell you, yeah, but we are oppressed, but we are oppressed.
And it's like, this is pathetic.
You know, I think people are starting to realize it's not cool to play this victim card.
You know, take control of your life.
Nobody's, nobody's standing in your way.
steve bannon
Let me go, I want to go back to when you were a Democrat.
Here's the one thing I think it's tough for us, particularly the economic nationalists, and we're big believers in what Cuban people believe that if the black community had more access to capital, more economic opportunity, a lot of this would get put in back of us.
When we look at Bernie Sanders and the Bernie bros, we went through this with the Hillary Clinton taking Iran, we thought that was a pillow fight.
Once again, in the second primary, they have another pillow fight against Joe Biden.
I mean, how they can end up with a guy like Joe Biden, a neocon neoliberal, that's just the vestige of all the worst policies of the establishment, of the globalists, right?
How does that, as you walked away and became part of the Trump movement, or this new thing that's aborning, we don't even know what it is yet, how do you see The Bernie Bros, who I think many of those people would support our economic nationalist policies and our policy on sovereignty, some of the other policies they're clearly not going to support.
But how could they sit there and still be a part of an apparatus that really supports this kind of globalist, elitist agenda?
How do you, because we reach out, a big part of our audience, I think 20% of our audience, are democratic economic nationalists who are not all the way there, but they like the economic nationalist part of it.
How do you see that?
brandon straka
Well, I think that once we get through this mess that we're in right now with this election, what's going to be very fascinating is to really study the demographics of who came over to our side and why.
Because I actually believe, and I've said many times before, that it might sound crazy to people, but I think the gap between Bernie Sanders and Trump is smaller than the gap between Bernie Sanders and Biden.
Because although the policy... Was that affirmative?
100%!
steve bannon
That's when we do this show!
I got affirmation from Steve Bannon!
unidentified
Wow!
steve bannon
That's when we do it every day.
We 100% agree.
brandon straka
Yeah, no, I mean, because it's... The policies... There may be disagreement on policies, or the quickest route to get there, or the best route to get there, but ultimately I think the Bernie people really care about sort of this populism thing, and, you know, the forgotten guy, and the little people without a voice, and that's exactly who Trump captured.
And so I think if you know we can cut through all the BS about the racism and the bigotry and all this stuff that you know the marketing ploys.
I think it's like I said it might be interesting to see maybe a lot of those Bernie people did come over to Trump.
I think they probably did as opposed to Biden.
steve bannon
Right before we go to break, were you surprised by the outcome given the hysteria that was up about the pandemic and all the mail-in voting?
Are you surprised where we are today in that it looks like we won a huge game day victory, but it's all this mail-in voting, you're trying to certify it, we're going through this big thing.
Are you surprised we're kind of in hang fire nine days after this?
Or did you see going around the country, because I know Ben and many of the people in the Trump movement were sitting there going, this is going to be a landslide.
First off, it's going to be a dogfight.
Yeah.
Were you surprised about where we are today?
brandon straka
Yes.
I think I'm surprised.
I never thought it was going to be a landslide.
I didn't think that, but I didn't think... You thought it would be a not right victory though?
I thought Trump would win.
steve bannon
So early in that evening, when you saw Florida go, and you saw Ohio, and you see Iowa, and you see 800,000 votes up in Pennsylvania, you say, hey, we called this one right.
At 10 o'clock at night, you thought we're in pretty good shape.
brandon straka
No, I thought something was really wrong in the election.
I saw it happening in that night.
I saw something going wrong.
steve bannon
Hang on.
That's a great hang to come back on.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We got Ben Berquam from Real America's Voice.
We got Brandon Stroke.
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We're here with Brandon Strock and Ben Burquam.
By the way, we're blowing through the firewall into mainland China right now, getting tons of comments.
My phone is blowing up.
I want to bring in Prince.
That's his nom de guerre.
He's part of the New Federal State and the whistleblower movement.
Prince, you're also the New Federal State of China.
The diaspora is going to have its own rally tomorrow in Washington, D.C.
Can you give folks, my phone has been blowing up all day, people, since you talked in the morning about it, everybody wants to know what time, where is it going to be, so walk people through the specifics.
unidentified
Thank you Mr. Benning for having me today.
So I'm actually at the Washington Monument right now at the Sylvan Theater.
It's overlooking the Washington Monument right next, it's actually right here in the plaza where Washington Monument is.
We're gonna be here tomorrow starting at 10 a.m.
all the way until 5 p.m.
in the afternoon.
and everything's looking great. We've got our flags up, we've got the Trump sign up, and we're ready to show our support for the Constitution, for President Trump, and most important, to spread the message about the necessity to take down the Chinese Communist Party.
steve bannon
Prince, I've got to ask you, one of the most prominent lawyers in the country, Lin Wood, who's representing the President down in Georgia, his Twitter feed for the last two days has been directly at the Chinese Communist Party for their involvement in this fiasco we've had since President Trump's victory on November 3rd.
Enlighten our audience, what is Lin Wood talking about?
How's the Chinese Communist Party involved in any way in this election?
unidentified
Well, we know that the best and the biggest weapon of the Chinese Communist Party is their control of the media, is their propaganda outlets, right?
Things like CNN, as well as Fox News, right?
Fox News turned their back on us the election night by calling Arizona and then later on by declaring Joe Biden the winner.
I mean, since when does media declare winner of presidential elections, right?
So last time I looked at the constitution, it wasn't in there.
So I think attorney, I think Mr. Wood exactly on point.
And he and I think many more are waking up to the fact that the real threat comes from the Chinese Communist Party.
They have their hands all over this elections through media interference.
But remember, this is a decade-long warfare the Chinese Communist Party has waged, not on just American people, but on the world.
They've sent, you know, tons of fentanyls to America.
Since they joined the WTO in 2002, they've used economic theft, intellectual property theft, to basically steal the middle class and the manufacturing base from America.
So, I think that people started waking up to the fact that the real enemy is the Chinese Communist Party, that we need to stand united.
And united, we're stronger than them, and we will take down the Chinese Communist Party.
steve bannon
Prince, it's so great that you guys are down here.
I look forward to seeing you tomorrow.
We're going to have full coverage of the rally by the New Federal State of China and the whistleblower movement in Washington, D.C.
in support of democracy, the rule of law, and President Trump.
Prince, thank you very much for joining us today on War and Pandemic.
unidentified
Thank you, sir.
steve bannon
You know, part of this Great Awakening, Ben and Brandon, as we talk about, is kind of the self-organizing nature of this, like the 96-mile caravan in Detroit.
One of the most amazing things is people that have lived under tyranny, right?
The thing in South Florida, right?
30,000 Latinos and Hispanics show up to have that massive rally on that Sunday.
It took nine hours to say, hey, we've lived under this thing before.
We've seen the direction they're going.
We've had to live there.
We don't want to do that.
Trump then, you talk about this coalition he's putting together.
Trump gets, what is it, 47% of the Hispanic vote in Florida.
It absolutely blew people away.
12% of the African-American male vote.
It's blown, you know, it's little increments, but you're seeing it.
I want to go first to you.
I remember you didn't actually say there's gonna be a landslide.
You thought this was gonna be tough, but much of the Trump movement, I remember I talked to all my bros in the Trump movement, it was like, oh no, this is a lock, it's gonna be 45 states.
February?
ben bergquam
February, it was a lock.
There's no question about it.
Trump was winning in a landslide.
There was nothing the Democrats could do.
I was sitting in the hearings when President Trump was acquitted.
I was sitting in when he got impeached, and I was sitting in the Senate hearings when he wasn't removed from office.
And I thought, okay, what could they possibly do next?
President Trump has this.
They've done everything.
They've done the quid pro impeachment.
They did the Russia collusion hoax.
They did Stormy Daniels.
They did everything.
They called him a racist.
They called him a sexist.
And nothing was sticking.
People were waking up.
You had the walk away.
You had the Blexit.
You had all this stuff happening.
And then COVID came along.
And you said it, Brandon.
It's fear.
It was fear.
They used fear and fraud.
It was those two F-words, fear and fraud, that led to this.
steve bannon
Look, we take this very seriously.
We started the pandemic in mid-January because of our knowledge of China and the Chinese when we heard that Lunar New Year was captured.
So we take it seriously.
We just lit up Ron Klain today.
He's supposed to be all-knowing.
In February, he sent out a tweet saying the only epidemic we have is an epidemic of misinformation about the pandemic.
And it was later they came to the grips, they came to the grips of, hey, this is, and it was the media's mass hysteria that traumatized The Democratic Party, right?
This is something, this is a very serious situation, we know that, but through rational thought, you can think about targeted interventions, and I mean now, Chicago, on Monday, is going to have a, she's proposing, the mayor's proposing, a lockdown that's only two notches down from where Wuhan was in February of this year.
That's how, I think, disengaged from reality is, and the new head of the task force is talking about a six-week... New York City, New York City can't take a six-week lockdown.
Just mentally, people are not going to be able to handle it, right?
ben bergquam
The country can't take it.
steve bannon
The country can't take it, but particularly a city like New York.
New York's dead.
And I don't even know how they're even proposing it, particularly given the targeted interventions you can do for the comorbidities.
jack maxey
Very important to think about.
As we all sort of agree, the country can't take it.
You see it in Great Britain.
They're like, we can't go through this.
Fauci has said, you know, the people won't put up with it.
Remember, the lockdowns were there to save all these lives.
ben bergquam
Right.
jack maxey
So if we're not going to put up with it now, are we now going to put up with a massive loss of life?
Or could it possibly have been, from the start, we were oversold? 100%.
ben bergquam
There's no question.
You look at the numbers that have come out and it was oversold.
But that goes back to everything that we're fighting now.
The lies from the left.
The reason I'm in the situation I'm in.
Brandon, you're doing what you're doing.
We started Real America's Voice News.
All of this was because it's all of those enemies that we're fighting in this country that are We've been waging war on for decades, and now finally we're stepping up and saying, all right, nope, no more.
We're not accepting your premise, and we're going to fight.
The question I had was, could we outvote the fraud?
Coming from California, the amount of fraud that's over there, the amount of illegal aliens voting, all of that that goes into it, that was my concern.
Could we outvote the fraud?
And on election night, I'm like, yes, we can do it.
And then you start seeing the trucks coming and dumping off the ballots.
And all of that, you know, It was by design.
steve bannon
800,000 Pennsylvania just can't do this.
You said you saw this early.
What was your worry?
Because many people by 10 or 11 o'clock at night thought, hey, even with the mail-in ballots that you've got out there, he's got this.
brandon straka
Well I'm sure probably it depended on what network you were watching too and you're watching the returns come in but I was sitting there I was in a house with my team we decided to take kind of like a respite to go and watch the election together so we rented an Airbnb and we had like a CNN room and a Fox room and you know where we could go back and forth and I was sitting there in the Fox room and it's funny it's kind of prescient too because everyone's now kind of turning on Fox and
You know, I've had my issues with Fox, but nothing like it's been lately, but I was actually tweeting out in real time, I was like, is everyone at Fox on mushrooms right now?
Like, because people, they were, everyone was behaving insanely as this was happening, but to answer your question... You mean insanely anti-Trump on Fox?
Yes!
Yeah and just the things that they were saying I mean I have to go back now and kind of remember but I was just like everyone was just behaving so strangely and this way that seemed sort of out of touch with what was happening as the ballots were coming in and um and so I like it was very clear that he was going to win Florida very clear and they didn't call it for hours and Texas It was very, very clear that he was going to win Texas.
They didn't call it for hours.
And listen, I don't really care what previous precedent is.
They called Virginia when like two votes were in and they were all for Trump.
I mean, I don't think Joe Biden had a single vote when they called Virginia and But anyway, so we're sitting there, you know, looking on different sources on the internet, we're watching Fox, whatever, and Joe Biden's score is going up, and up, and up, and up, and Trump's isn't moving.
And it was like watching two different shows, where one was on pause, and the other one wasn't on pause.
And no matter what happened, and they wouldn't move anything, like if Trump had the lead in this state, It was like the moment that Joe Biden took the lead in the state.
Then they would change the graphics and then something would move.
But nothing would move for Trump.
And we were all going crazy.
You know, we were just like, why isn't Florida turning red?
Why isn't Texas turning red?
Why isn't... So I went to bed feeling frustrated and feeling like something was really wrong.
Because I was like, it seems like they're only tabulating for Biden.
And then of course I woke up the next morning and the whole damn country was blue.
And they're like, oh, well, we just discovered Biden votes from coast to coast, and every state turned blue.
steve bannon
Being that you're a New York City guy now, you're not buying that, right?
You think the fix is in when you go to bed, and as much as you're feeling uncomfortable, he's still up with massive leads in certain areas.
You get up, and a massive lead in Wisconsin is now a massive deficit.
brandon straka
Michigan.
steve bannon
Michigan and Pennsylvania.
brandon straka
Yeah, and I don't, you know, I don't think that I knew when I went to bed that they had paused the counting, you know, and so that's what everyone was saying when we got up there, like, they stopped counting, like, last night, and then they resumed counting at, you know, four or five in the morning or something, and that's when they found truckloads of Biden votes somewhere there during the night.
ben bergquam
You know, the interesting thing, I was in Arizona, and it was the exact opposite where we, I mean, it kind of ties into that, but They came in and immediately called Arizona and everyone on the ground says, no way, we got this.
And I was there.
I was at the polling locations.
They were polling three to one to President Trump.
And so we went out of that thinking, OK, that night I was like, all right, President Trump's win in Arizona.
We got one number drop, and for three hours we got nothing else.
It was, again, it was like the fix was in.
We're going to make it look like President Trump's losing in these states.
We're not going to talk about the states where he's winning big, because we still have elections going on in other states across the country, so we can't talk about that.
It's infuriating, and then you wake up, and we see that.
Now we're down to 10,000 votes separating in Arizona, when a lot of these states are still saying, you know, it was over that night.
steve bannon
You've been going to rallies and covering rallies now for a couple years, and these rallies at the end of this were spectacular.
When did you guys get the idea, we've got to get a rally, we've got to do something here to show street-level support?
When did that click for you?
brandon straka
Well, I think it clicked during the shutdowns because I started to see the greatest thing that Trump has going for himself is his connection with the people in person.
That and Twitter.
I mean, that's what he's got.
He doesn't get a fair shake in the media.
Everybody knows that.
But when it's just him and the people, that's when the magic happens.
I mean, there's something unlike anything we've ever seen from any other political candidate in history, of my lifetime anyway, and when they took that away, you know, and not only did they take it away, but they made it like, if you do this, you're a monster.
Super spreading freedom.
When they started to take that away, then I became concerned.
And when they were really manipulating COVID in any way that they can, I became concerned.
That's when I decided to go out and just do, you know, obviously I can't draw a fraction of the audience that Trump can.
However, I thought, you know, at least if we can keep that fire ignited to some degree with the people and let me take the blame, you know, let me be the super spreader who's murdering everybody.
And, you know, and if that happens to benefit Trump, then that's great.
steve bannon
How about we got to take a short break, but the one that takes place tomorrow, when did you guys come up with that idea?
The one that's going to take place?
brandon straka
Yesterday.
steve bannon
Just a couple of days ago.
Just said, hey, we want to do this.
We need to do this.
brandon straka
Yeah, and look, I'll just be honest here and say, you know, we have a real problem in the conservative movement with egos.
And, you know, what was yesterday or tomorrow was supposed to be this really amazing thing of people coming together.
And of course, a couple of stupid people with egos hijacked the whole thing.
And I just, I backed out of it.
So I'm doing, we're just doing something on Sunday that's a little more inclusive.
steve bannon
But are you actually going to go and participate at all?
brandon straka
I'll be there.
I'll walk around.
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
We're going to take a short commercial break.
When we come back, we've got Brandon Strock.
We've got Ben Berquam from Real America's Voice.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
unidentified
we're gonna return in the war room in just a second and with steven k
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room Pandemic.
Here's your host Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Look, stop the steal is very simple.
You've just got to stop the illegal ballots, the uncertifiable ballots, the ballots with no chain of custody, no chain of title.
And one of the ways you do it, you've got to do it wholesale.
We can't do it onesies, twosies.
One of the ways is obviously it's got to be due diligence and discovery on Dominion systems.
We now know it has Chinese Communist components to it.
We don't know where the software is made.
Everybody's talking about it.
Jack, you've got about two minutes here.
You found something very interesting from the Democratic Party today.
jack maxey
Very interesting.
A letter was sent on December 6, 2019.
It was sent by Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobacher, Ron Wyden, and Mark Pocan, who was a congressman.
And this was a letter to three private equity companies that own the main voting machine companies.
This one here that I'm going to read from is to Staple Street Capital Group, a man named Stephen D. Owen, Managing Director.
We are writing to request information regarding Staple Street Capital Group's investment in Dominion voting systems.
We are particularly concerned that secretive and trouble-plagued companies owned by private equity firms and responsible for manufacturing and maintaining voting machines and other election administration equipment have long skimped on security in favor of convenience.
They reference a January 2017 U.S.
Department of Homeland Security comment which designates the United States election infrastructure critical infrastructure.
The concentration in the election technology market and the fact that vendors are more often more seasoned in voting machine and technical services contract negotiations than the local officials give these companies incredible power.
Amy Klobacher and Elizabeth Warren were quite interested about some of the problems with Dominion and the others just in December 6th of last year.
Perhaps one of these enterprising reporters out there could go contact the senators and ask them what their concerns were.
steve bannon
Once again, how do people get to your site?
You have an event on Sunday, you're going to be out there participating tomorrow, but talk about your event on Sunday.
brandon straka
Right, so, and listen, this should be about more than one day.
This needs to go on and on and on until we, you know, until we have some truth and transparency here.
steve bannon
You're fighting to the end on this one, right?
brandon straka
Fighting until the end.
Absolutely, 100%.
I'm all in.
steve bannon
Why is that?
brandon straka
Because I see the dishonesty and the deceit that the Democrats are pushing.
That's what drove me away, and they're doing it even now.
And they think they've won, and they're already starting to rewrite history.
Maybe everyone would care about this, but they're talking about Joe Biden putting Pete Buttigieg in his cabinet, and they're like, oh, the first openly gay cabinet member!
Rick Grinnell is the first openly gay cabinet.
So they're already trying to rewrite history.
I'm not having it.
We're doing a rally on Sunday here in Washington, D.C.
at John Marshall Park at 10 a.m.
People can go to walkawaycampaign.com.
Get all the details they need.
Please register for this rally.
Those of you watching, listening in China, please make it over.
Be a part of this on Sunday morning.
We want to see all of you there.
That's Sunday morning, 10 a.m.
Eastern, John Marshall Park.
In Washington, D.C.
walkawaycampaign.com.
steve bannon
And you're covering live tomorrow on Real America's Voice.
ben bergquam
We'll be running all over tomorrow, noon, before that, all over the city.
So if you can make it here, guys, make it here.
No matter where you're at, be here.
And anywhere across the country.
I just want to say this.
MAGA is just getting started.
I mean, this is, no matter what, this, the America, this is the MAGA party.
We had the Tea Party in 2019.
This is MAGA party.
And it's going.
It's not stopping, no matter what.
We're taking the country now.
steve bannon
The Great Awakening, you can tell, is just starting.
We're at the top of the second inning.
We want to thank Lydia from California.
Jack, we've had some watch caps here.
This is amazing.
We are ready.
Lydia, fantastic thing that you wrote us.
unidentified
We're hoping for some bad weather, Lydia, so we can get out on patrol.
ben bergquam
Take care of business here.
It just turned into a New England Fisherman.
steve bannon
I tell you, Lydia, I'm going to do a special.
I'm going to put this on tomorrow in our Saturday show because I've got to figure out how to wear it first, right?
And Lydia, I'm also, because I see Jack, I'm not going to do that.
unidentified
He can't mess with his hair, Lydia.
Lydia will be taken down off YouTube permanently if I do that.
steve bannon
And I want to read your, you've got a nice scripture here, so Lydia, we're going to do it tomorrow on the Saturday Morning Show.
Before I leave, the energy that I see from what you've added is amazing.
I've watched your rallies, what you're doing going around the country, we're at an inflection point in this country.
The elites, the globalist elites, don't care about the little guy at all, right?
Whether the guys are from Nebraska or from Harlem, they just don't care.
You're just another cog in a machine, right?
This is a movement that actually, and this is the power of Trump, Not in the room, not in the deal.
For the first time, Trump gave the forgotten man and woman somebody in the room.
Was it perfect?
No, it wasn't perfect.
Is it directionally as good as we can hope?
Absolutely.
And that's why a second term is so important.
If we retreat now, It's not, and Lindsey Graham says, I want to have hearings.
Forget that.
It's right now.
This moment is now.
We cannot back off.
That's why I'm so proud to be associated with you guys, and I love the fight, right?
And people are not going to back down.
I particularly like the fight of you guys, because you've risked a lot.
Your friends, your family, and your apostates, and nothing's hated worse than an apostate.
Give people your Twitter handle, how they found out more about you and your movement.
brandon straka
Thank you.
People can follow me on any social media at BrandonStrock and my last name is a little peculiar.
It's spelled S-T-R-A-K-A.
So it's like BrandonStrocka.
Please follow me on Twitter because the day after the election my following started plummeting.
I don't know if that's happening to anybody else.
ben bergquam
Everyone.
brandon straka
So bad.
ben bergquam
Everyone.
brandon straka
I'm actually getting depressed about it.
So follow me on Twitter.
steve bannon
They're doing that?
ben bergquam
You can't have followers.
brandon straka
I think Twitter's doing it.
I do think that people get depressed after elections and they just get off of social media, period.
So I do think there's some of that happening too.
steve bannon
Don't they understand this fight now is going to continue on?
This is where it's really going to get nasty.
brandon straka
And in terms of WalkAway, I want people to go to walkawaycampaign.com to continue to follow what we're doing.
WalkAway was never about one election.
It's never about one candidate or party.
It's about a movement of extracting people from the radical left, from the political left, and it's about taking down the Democratic Party.
So that fight goes on and on and on.
We'll be going into 2021.
Go to walkawaycampaign.com and please support what we're doing.
Support, support, support.
jack maxey
Brandon, at the start of this you said that you lost a lot of friends by coming and starting this walkaway movement.
Do you have more friends today than you had today?
steve bannon
Dude, it's lighting up our online.
brandon straka
Honestly, yeah.
I mean, I feel like I have friends and family from coast to coast now.
I really do.
jack maxey
You do, brother.
steve bannon
How do people get to you?
By the way, you've been doing, I've told Sig and Don Howard, you've been doing an extraordinary job out in the field.
It's not easy being a field reporter.
ben bergquam
Yeah, Frontline America is my organization, FrontlineAmerica.com, you can find it on Facebook.
Obviously, America's Voice News, now the real America's Voice.
You can get us on Roku, Hulu, Dish Network, Pluto, all of those, so follow there.
And then Twitter, I'm just Ben Burquham.
steve bannon
Okay, our coverage tomorrow will be both the analytics, we're going to have data, we're going to have lawyers talking here, but we're particularly going to be talking about these rallies that are going to take place tomorrow afternoon.
At the Supreme Court, down in Freedom Plaza, also with the Chinese anti-CCP, and of course, Brandon Strzok's rally on Sunday, full coverage.
Okay, until tomorrow at 10am, you've been in The War Room.
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