Nov. 14, 2020 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| So you don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| This is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
| Because if you don't, then the worst happens. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Are you prepared to say that President Trump will definitely attend the inauguration? | ||
| Again, that's many steps away here. | ||
| We're talking January, and President Trump believes he will be President Trump, have a second term, and litigation is the first step. | ||
| Many steps away from that. | ||
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It would look pretty bad if he did not attend the inauguration. | |
| It would look like sour grapes, wouldn't it? | ||
| I think the President will attend his own inauguration. | ||
| He would have to be there, in fact. | ||
| Maria, we're moving forward here at the White House under the assumption that there will be a second Trump term. | ||
| I think it's really important before people's heads... | ||
| Explode here to understand that what we seek here is verifiable ballots, certifiable ballots, and an investigation into what are growing numbers of allegations of fraud under signed affidavits by witnesses. | ||
| And my own view looking at this election, we have what appears in some sense to be an immaculate deception. | ||
| Welcome. | ||
| We're just back from the Rose Garden. | ||
| This is Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| You're live in the War Room from the nation's capital. | ||
| Just right down the street is the White House. | ||
| And we just left the Rose Garden for I guess President Trump's first official duty besides going to Arlington to the Tomb of the Unknown the other day. | ||
| President Trump just gave a press conference to update people on Project Warp Speed, the vaccine, and Vice President Pence joined him. | ||
| I guess the vacation was either cut short, guys, or non-existent. | ||
| It's Friday, the 13th of November, Year of Our Lord 2020. | ||
| You're in the War Room. | ||
| Episode 501, 502 today with over 19 million downloads. | ||
| 18th biggest podcast in the country. | ||
| All different verticals, whether it's sports, entertainment, politics, news, etc. | ||
| You're on the John Frederich Radio Network, Real America's Voice. | ||
| In fact, we're going to have the great young reporter from out in Phoenix, out in Maricopa County, Ben Burquam, is going to join us here in studio today, as is Brandon Strzok of the walkaway movement. | ||
| We're on the eve of a huge rally. | ||
| In fact, a day of rallies tomorrow. | ||
| We're going to have people from the new federal state of China, the whistleblower movement, they're putting on a rally. | ||
| To support American democracy, to support a free and fair count of this vote, to support President Trump, and also the Stop the Steal movement, which is going to be, I think, doing rallies in all state capitals, is going to be here tomorrow. | ||
| Amy Kramer and the team. | ||
| So we're going to have people in that. | ||
| We're going to not just celebrate it, but promote it and make sure everybody knows about this. | ||
| First, we've got to get to, we're in the grind. | ||
| Rudy Giuliani is going to join us later, Boris Epstein is going to get us up to speed on everything that's going on in Arizona, a lot of misinformation on that. | ||
| We're going to be talking about Georgia, Michigan, all of it, Pennsylvania, but I want to start with Dave Kallman from the Great Lakes Justice Center, was in court today. | ||
| It's a headline, he finally made the headlines, Dave, it's a headline everywhere, Daily Mail, Drudge, everywhere. | ||
| So what happened? | ||
| What happened today in court? | ||
| You kind of predicted this. | ||
| You didn't think this judge would look kindly on this or shut this process down, that you've got to go to an appellate court, maybe to the state Supreme Court. | ||
| But walk us through what went on in the courtroom today and what was the judgment? | ||
| Well, Judge Kenny issued his opinion in order today, shortly after noon, where he issued his decision. | ||
| And what he ruled was, is that our request for injunctive relief to stop the certification of the election results and to order an audit, he denied it all. | ||
| And he basically said he believed the affidavits, a couple of affidavits of people who had been produced by the defendants, including one of our former election directors. | ||
| And they had general affidavits talking about the process and that sort of thing. | ||
| And he said he did not believe the affidavits of our clients, which I find very interesting, especially since the affidavits of the defendants did not directly refute things like Zach Larson and Jesse Jacob and the things that they observed and saw. | ||
| And there are quite a few factual errors in the judge's opinion. | ||
| So it's our intent, Steve, right now is we're going to be working here diligently to get an emergency appeal in and ask the Court of Appeals to grant the relief that we've requested. | ||
| So that's where we're at right now. | ||
| There were a number of things. | ||
| For example, the judge made a big point in his opinion three different times about how the poll challengers that were the witnesses for our affidavits did not attend a walkthrough meeting about three or four days before the election. | ||
| And that if they had done so, then that might have allayed any fears or any reasons they thought something untoward was happening. | ||
| But the only problem was, so he says they did not attend that meeting. | ||
| And so that was part of the problem. | ||
| And that's why he ruled against us. | ||
| But the only problem with that is that's half the story. | ||
| The other half of the story is our witnesses were never told about the meeting. | ||
| So how in the world are you supposed to attend a meeting and a walkthrough when you're not told about it? | ||
| And then he holds it against our clients. | ||
| That's just silly. | ||
| But hang on, in holding it against your clients, I think the implication Or at least the implication I think the media is taking is that your clients didn't, don't really understand how elections work. | ||
| And if they'd gone to the workshop, they would understand that. | ||
| And if they were more, had more seasoned in this, obviously you have people that are quite expertise in this, but what is it about what he was implying? | ||
| What is it about how an election day and election night works that goes counter to the understanding as you, as your clients filled out in these affidavits? | ||
| Well, to begin with, all of these affidavits and the people who gave the affidavits were trained. | ||
| That's what is being lost here also. | ||
| They were certified poll challengers. | ||
| They went to the training. | ||
| So they knew what they were doing. | ||
| And let me just give you another example, Steve. | ||
| The judge made a big deal out of the fact that these computer monitors were on the tables and they were big monitors. | ||
| And you could see the names scrolling on these monitors. | ||
| And so therefore the challengers could see the ballots as they were being processed. | ||
| But again, it's only half the story. | ||
| And it shows maybe a lack of understanding of the process on the court's part. | ||
| Because what good does it do for you to just see a list of names scrolling on a screen with nothing else? | ||
| Part of the duties of a poll challenger is to be right there at the table observing the ballots as they're being opened. | ||
| You can see the name on the ballot, the physical ballot, and then compare that to the names that are showing up on the computer. | ||
| Well, Mr. Larson and all the others were being barred from doing that. | ||
| They weren't being allowed to see the names on the ballots. | ||
| So what good does it do you to be able to look at a monitor that's scrolling a bunch of names that you can't verify that those are the ballots that are actually in front of the worker? | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| Ask. | ||
| I mean, you're asking for injunctive relief, but essentially you're asking to fully stop the certification process. | ||
| And we do have a ticking clock, that's why we say this, and I think it's 23rd or 24th of November in Michigan. | ||
| But you've got, obviously, the selection of the electors, you've got the Safe Harbor on the 8th, you've got the Electoral College on the 14th, and if these targets aren't met or close to those dates, and the 14th being in the sand, you know, statutory has to be, Things go awry. | ||
| And he realizes that you may end up not certifying the vote of the people of Michigan because you can't get back up and understand what ballots are fair, what ballots are legitimate, what ballots have a chain of title. | ||
| Let's say you'd gotten injunctive relief today for our audience and stopped the certification. | ||
| The next phase, like when you're in appellate court, you're arguing what are you trying to accomplish if they give you this? | ||
| What is your real ask? | ||
| The real ask is to have the audit of the results and the independent auditor could be appointed and it could be done fairly quickly. | ||
| You know, Steve, let me turn that question around. | ||
| See, and this was asked of me by the judge at the hearing on Wednesday. | ||
| And here's the other side. | ||
| So what you're really saying by that argument is that, well, we've got deadlines and so we just kind of got to push this through and get it done. | ||
| Well then, so if fraud occurred, and if our witnesses who have stated they've seen all this fraud going on are correct, well, hey, it's just too bad. | ||
| We just don't have enough time to really get into this and to find out what was going on, so we just have to approve all of these fraudulent ballots. | ||
| Well, that's a silly argument. | ||
| I mean, if there's fraud, there's fraud, and things need to happen in order to have it checked out. | ||
| I was kind of giving you the Biden's camps, you know, fairly argument at the hearing the other day. | ||
| But I want to go, Greg, read what was in there. | ||
| I want Greg Manns, our War Room operator, to read what the judge, you have it up there, what the judge actually said today in his ruling? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So in one part of the order, it says, it would be an unprecedented exercise of judicial activism for this court to stop the certification process of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers. | ||
| The court cannot defy a legislatively crafted process, substitute its judgment for that of the legislature. | ||
| Has the courts now got old time, now the courts are going to have old time religion that they don't want to do anything, these are activist judges, but now they got old time religion, they don't want to get involved in anything in the legislative process because they realize how the U.S. | ||
| Supreme Court is going to rule on this? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's interesting to take that position now, but again, it begs the question, which the real question is, did fraud occur? | ||
| And if it did, there has to be some remedy for that. | ||
| And the remedy is in our constitution, which says an audit should happen. | ||
| And that's all we're saying is that we presented enough evidence to do that. | ||
| And, you know, let me give you another example, Steve. | ||
| The judge claims that Jessie Jacob and her affidavit that she had seen, and he even calls them very serious allegations of fraud and things that she had seen even prior to the date of the election. | ||
| And he says, well, but she never really complained to anybody and didn't file a formal complaint prior to the election. | ||
| That's just flat out not true. | ||
| I mean, she did complain to her supervisors and she was told to mind her own business and she was actually removed from her position. | ||
| They're counting ballots and was moved to a different location. | ||
| So again, that's just not accurate what the judge is saying in this opinion. | ||
| Let's go through, and we would love for you to stay over if we go through to the end of this and come back after a break, but go through. | ||
| You said the judge, and your belief is the judge made a number of factual errors or mistakes, and that that's what you and your team are working on tonight to get ready for an appellate, to go to an appellate court. | ||
| What would you highlight as the two or three biggest mistakes you think the judge made? | ||
| Well, again, I think I've mentioned three of them already. | ||
| I think another one is he makes a big point of the fact that apparently some other people caused a disturbance or they were upset with what they were seeing. | ||
| Because remember, the Republican poll challengers were being barred from doing their job. | ||
| And when some of them started to object, apparently a few might have got a little more boisterous than they should have. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's not part of our lawsuit or anything else. | ||
| But the judge seems to pin the blame for a few people who are doing that sort of action and maybe being inappropriate onto my clients. | ||
| Well, my point would be, so what? | ||
| I mean, so what if somebody else was causing a problem? | ||
| Our witnesses were not. | ||
| Our witnesses were simply trying to calmly and professionally do their job and they were barred from doing so. | ||
| So it's things like that. | ||
| And then, you know, the judge, here's another one, the judge makes the Point that, well, no formal challenges were actually filed. | ||
| Well, Mr. Larson makes it clear in his, uh, his affidavit that he was prepared to do that. | ||
| And remember, he left the room to confer with some other attorneys and, and, uh, do a couple of things and then tried to get back in so he could file his challenges. | ||
| And he was barred, you know, they wouldn't let him back in. | ||
| And so they say, well, he didn't file a challenge. | ||
| Well, they wouldn't let him, you know, they wouldn't let him in the room. | ||
| So it's things like that. | ||
| We're going through it. | ||
| David, if you can just hang on for a quick break. | ||
| We've got two more questions I want to get out to you before and when we come back. | ||
| We'll just take a quick break. | ||
| We've got Dave Coleman on. | ||
| He is the lawyer at the Great Lakes Justice Center. | ||
| He's arguing about asking for injunctive relief and a stay on the certification as we get our arms around this and do an audit. | ||
| Not a process audit, but a results audit. | ||
| We'll get the difference and all that. | ||
| For you, the audience, in just a second we're going to have Brother Strzok on here from the walk-away movement. | ||
| He is part of the big part of the rally tomorrow. | ||
| We're going to have Ben Berquam from Real America's Voice. | ||
| He is back from Maricopa County. | ||
| We're going to have Boris Epstein to walk through exactly what's going on. | ||
| The President's making some changes, I think. | ||
| Rudy Giuliani is going to be on over from Campaign Headquarters to talk about this weekend. | ||
| We're going to return with David Coleman in just a second. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Kayleigh McEnany says the President is going to the inauguration on 20 January, the year of our Lord 2021. | ||
| His inauguration. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And Peter Navarro Is get a stack of executive orders, because they're taking the 80 bonus days we told them about for the second administration, getting an early start. | ||
| First thing they're doing is cutting off all U.S. | ||
| companies, your dollars, deplorables dollars, institutional money, that's going in to finance the People's Liberation Army. | ||
| Technology companies, getting cut off, stopped. | ||
| Many more actions, because Peter Navarro said, hey, I look around, our operating orders here are, there's a second term coming, and we're just getting a jump on it. | ||
| In order to get there, we've got to close the deal. | ||
| We've got to close one of the biggest victories in American political history, and certainly the biggest comeback. | ||
| Even a bigger comeback than 2016. | ||
| Because they were waiting for us this time. | ||
| Last time, they thought we were a clown show. | ||
| Right? | ||
| We snuck up on them. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| This time, they were planning and plotting for four years. | ||
| And waiting. | ||
| All we gotta do now is close the deal. | ||
| And I realize some of the headlines may not look great, but there's a lot of activity going on, and we might be doing some reshuffling to get a few more fighters at the tip of the spear here. | ||
| Because President Trump, you saw him today, walked in the Rose Garden with Mike Pence. | ||
| Mike, I'm not on vacation in Florida, Pence. | ||
| Right? | ||
| It's a working day. | ||
| Every day's a working day. | ||
| Until we close this thing. | ||
| And the President's sitting there throwing down, talking about vaccines, talking about doing this, talking about Cuomo. | ||
| Hey, I don't know if I'm shipping it up to New York, right? | ||
| So, I want to turn now to one of the heroes in this. | ||
| Head of a 501c3, defends the Second Amendment, the First Amendment, the Right to Life Movement, Great Lakes Justice Senator Dave Coleman was in court today. | ||
| I know you have a question here, Mr. Jack Maxey. | ||
| Yes, you were saying that the judge sort of denied the evidence in these affidavits. | ||
| Now, it's kind of an odd thing for him to not accept the affidavits. | ||
| Is he also accusing them of perjury or just having bad memories? | ||
| Well, I don't think he went quite that far. | ||
| But he did say he did not accept the affidavits. | ||
| He didn't find them credible. | ||
| And he tried to pawn it off on simply, well, these people didn't know what they were doing and they didn't know what they were seeing. | ||
| And it's that kind of thing, which again is simply not accurate. | ||
| What's been reported by these witnesses in their affidavits is pretty clear. | ||
| And, you know, the judge decided he wasn't going to accept it. | ||
| Again, remember this is all by affidavit. | ||
| There were no witnesses. | ||
| The judge did not have a chance to judge credibility of people on the witness stand, that sort of thing. | ||
| And, uh, you know, he ruled the way he ruled. | ||
| Can't say we're surprised by the ruling and we're just taking it to the next level now. | ||
| No, you were ready at the beginning. | ||
| Ben Berquam of Real America's Voices joined us in studio. | ||
| He's going to be here for the rest of the show. | ||
| I want to go back to David. | ||
| Before I let you go, the thing you've asked for is a results audit. | ||
| And the big argument the other day was about a process audit and a results audit. | ||
| We'd love to get our audience always up to speed on nomenclature. | ||
| Tell us what is a results audit, and why is it different than a process audit, and why is it so important here? | ||
| Sure, a process audit under Michigan law, there's a statute dealing with it, and it's only the procedures themselves, where the vote's done correctly, where the tally's done correctly, that sort of thing. | ||
| It's not looking at the actual votes themselves. | ||
| A results audit means you look at the actual ballots and votes themselves and determine whether or not the results are accurate and whether or not there was any fraud. | ||
| And as our Constitution says, they have to check the integrity of the election. | ||
| That's much different than just the procedure type of situation. | ||
| So that's what we were asking for under our Constitution. | ||
| That's what we think we're entitled to. | ||
| And so, that's the difference. | ||
| You're getting ready. | ||
| You're going to file and try to get to an appellate court over the weekend or Monday. | ||
| You're asking for an emergency. | ||
| Walk the audience through. | ||
| What are you asking for and what's the timing of this? | ||
| Well, an appeal is just that. | ||
| I mean, we go to the Court of Appeals. | ||
| We will be working on this through the weekend. | ||
| Obviously the court won't be back till Monday morning first thing. | ||
| But they have emergency procedures where they review these types of pleadings very quickly and we're hopeful that we'll get a decision either late Monday or early Tuesday. | ||
| The certification does not have to occur until 5 p.m. | ||
| on Tuesday. | ||
| So it is a short window but that's the time frame we have. | ||
| What happens if you have a problem with the appellate court and this vote gets certified? | ||
| It's just certified, though. | ||
| The Secretary of State's not certifying it on a Tuesday. | ||
| It's just certified at the precinct level and the district level, correct? | ||
| Correct. | ||
| And so then if the Court of Appeals rules against us, we'll go to the Supreme Court because the final certification will not have happened at that point. | ||
| And also, people need to remember, we had other grounds in our complaint. | ||
| Quo Warranto for fraud in an election, things like that, which were not ruled out in this decision, and we will be pushing the court to have that proceed ahead. | ||
| So this is not over yet, by a long shot. | ||
| David Coleman, head of People, did you finally get your Parler account up? | ||
| What's your social media? | ||
| I'll say that our website has not seen this kind of traffic at all. | ||
| So we actually, we had to switch servers. | ||
| Our system crashed and it's not used to this level of traffic. | ||
| But we've got it back. | ||
| It's been working fine now for about the last three days. | ||
| So people can go there, greatlakesjc.org, see the complaints, see the affidavits, see everything there. | ||
| Let me make one last point, Steve. | ||
| We also got an affidavit from Ruth Johnson, who is our just prior Secretary of State. | ||
| She was our Secretary of State until 2018 and she's a Senator now. | ||
| She reviewed our complaint, reviewed our affidavits and gave her own affidavit to the court saying, Judge, you need to intervene here. | ||
| These are serious allegations and you need to grant the relief that we're requesting. | ||
| So our former Secretary of State for the whole state of Michigan agrees with us. | ||
| So people are saying, oh, there's no basis to our complaint and there's nothing to it. | ||
| Again, I beg to differ. | ||
| People can read this and decide for themselves. | ||
| David, aren't there also two state senators who have also written a letter to the judge in support of your actions? | ||
| And I guess the reason why I'm pointing this out It's ultimately going to fall on the state legislature to certify this thing. | ||
| And my understanding is these are leaders in that body. | ||
| So does it look like that might be positive on that end? | ||
| Well, I had heard that they did that on their own accord. | ||
| We did not ask them to do that. | ||
| They didn't coordinate that with us. | ||
| Obviously, we appreciate whatever support we get from whatever quarter. | ||
| But the final certification is actually done by the Secretary of State in Michigan. | ||
| And so the legislature lays the ground rules. | ||
| They set out the statutes and the laws and the rules to follow to do all of this. | ||
| But the Secretary of State does the final, and there's a State Board of Canvassers that does the final certification. | ||
| David, thank you very much. | ||
| David Five Stones Coleman, thank you very much, sir, for joining us today. | ||
| Thanks for having me on, Steve, as always. | ||
| It's a pleasure. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Okay, we've got, now I want to bring in Boris Epstein from the Trump campaign, and I've got Ben Burquam, who, Ben was the field reporter for Real American Voice, and Boris was out there with the campaign. | ||
| Okay, guys. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| What's going on in Arizona? | ||
| Because I think there's some confusion. | ||
| Is the campaign dropped a lawsuit? | ||
| Are they party to a lawsuit? | ||
| I was on for an hour last night talking to the Trump base. | ||
| Gosar followed me, had a plan, and Kelly Ward followed. | ||
| And all I can tell you is they were fighting mad. | ||
| I mean, they are upset with the establishment. | ||
| They're upset with what went on in Maricopa County. | ||
| They want to have this precinct level audit. | ||
| Alright, first of all, great to be with you, Steve. | ||
| So I want to start with Boris and I'll come to you Ben. | ||
| So Boris, explain to us, what's the campaign's strategy in Arizona as you see it? | ||
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Alright, first of all, great to be with you Steve. | |
| I'll tell you this. | ||
| We are now under 11,000 difference in Arizona. | ||
| Under 11,000, okay? | ||
| The votes are still coming in now. | ||
| Let's just be honest, there's not enough votes coming in to make up the difference of the about 10.5 left. | ||
| But there are a lot of issues outstanding. | ||
| The lawyer today did appear to drop the lawsuit about the Green Button issue, but I've been learning over the last 24 to 48 hours of these potential issues around duplicate ballots, which are ballots that are used to fix damaged ballots in Arizona. | ||
| So say a ballot has got a smudge, it's got a tear, it's got a miss, you know, a miss mark, then it's duplicated. | ||
| So, but, and I've heard, I mentioned this to you on the show yesterday, and I've now got written reports, not affidavits, but written reports that the duplicate ballots that were for President Trump and in the numbers of tens of thousands may not have been counted. | ||
| So we're running that down, getting that information, and it's very important. | ||
| That's one. | ||
| Two, as you mentioned, the Arizona GOP, they filed a lawsuit, a strong lawsuit in terms of, Insisting that Arizona laws followed and there is accounting by precinct, not by voting center. | ||
| Voting centers were just established as emergency backups, but by precinct. | ||
| All in all, it appears that the only way to truly determine what happened in Arizona, especially with Dominion voting systems being used in Maricopa, which is by far the largest county, somewhere between 65-75% votes come from Maricopa, is to do a full hand recount Full hand recount of Maricopa County votes at least, and maybe Arizona as a whole. | ||
| To me, that appears to be the only way to truly get to the bottom of the issue. | ||
| I'm not even necessarily speaking for the campaign in saying that. | ||
| I'm saying that as somebody who bleeds MAGA, who's here for President Trump, fighting for President Trump, and has been in Arizona for the last nine days. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a break. | ||
| We asked you to hang on. | ||
| We're going to get Rudy Giuliani. | ||
| We're going to get Ben Burquham in here. | ||
| what happened and count every legal vote, President Trump will be determined to have won Arizona. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a break. | ||
| We asked you to hang on. | ||
| We're going to get Rudy Giuliani, we're going to get Ben Burquam in here. | ||
| But one thing I want you to think about during the break is this. | ||
| President Trump gave an interview with Byron York today, I think, in the Washington Exam President Trump goes through, in detail, every state. | ||
| And he knows every number. | ||
| And he knows where the legal status is. | ||
| So I just want to make sure that there's some sort of connection in reality between what President Trump thinks and what people on the ground are actually doing in the action the campaign's taking. | ||
| Boris Epstein will be with us when we return to the War Room. | ||
| We've got Ben Berkwan from Real America's Voice. | ||
| Greg Mann, just back from the campaign, now rejoined us. | ||
| Jack Maxx and Stephen K. Bannon will be back in one second. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, I want to go right back to Boris Epstein. | ||
| He's under time pressure, as are we. | ||
| So, Boris, the bid and the ask on The President Gives a Detailed Interview with Byron York walks through every state, he knows every number, he knows where all the legal is, and then things kind of change on him. | ||
| He's made the assertion he's going to win in Arizona. | ||
| The people last night I was on the phone with on this conference call, Zoom call, whatever it was, they believe they're going to win in Arizona. | ||
| They're not going to back off an inch. | ||
| Does the campaign realize that? | ||
| And the lawyers in the campaign realize that? | ||
| Or is everybody coordinated here and thinking in the same mode? | ||
| Because when you see you're pulling out of some lawsuits and maybe you're going to be in others, people start getting confused. | ||
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Well, listen, the lawsuit they pulled out of, frankly, the numbers just ended up not being there. | |
| But here's what I will tell you in terms of what I know and in terms of what the fighters on the campaign know. | ||
| Once we get to the bottom of these issues that I laid out, once we know what happened with the duplicate ballots in Arizona, were Trump duplicate ballots not counted? | ||
| Once we figure out whether, as Kelly Ward said to you, And others in the Arizona GOP have said to me whether Arizona's broken its own law by not having a precinct hand count. | ||
| Once we get to the bottom of those issues and all the numbers are counted, there's still about 9,000 votes left to go. | ||
| Now, the president's already down about 10.5 based on the count we know now, so you can't close the gap based on those numbers. | ||
| But between the duplicate ballot issue, the precinct counting issue, and then, of course, as we know, Dominion voting systems running the election in Maricopa, all these things have to be figured out. | ||
| We've got to be determined that they had a free and fair election in Arizona. | ||
| and once we get all the information I continue to be confident that President Trump will win Arizona. | ||
| Boris Epstein, thank you very much. | ||
| Look forward to having you on the show over the weekend. | ||
| I know you've got to run. We'll get a Twitter and Parler up later. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Now I want to turn to, we've got America's Mayor Rudy Giuliani. | ||
| I know he's pressed for time also. | ||
| Mayor, can you walk our audience just through your strategy? | ||
| We understand you're the President's lawyer, you're the guy he depends upon, you're his consigliere, your particular wartime consigliere, right? | ||
| So what are you telling the President and where do we stand as we go into this weekend when we've taken a few incoming over the last couple of days? | ||
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I think that's going to stop. | |
| First of all, We're going to get ready for our hearing in Pennsylvania on Tuesday. | ||
| We'll present our witnesses that will show that we have numerous witnesses to fraud. | ||
| We can show that about 600,000 ballots in Pennsylvania, mail-in ballots, were never inspected as the law requires and therefore are null and void. | ||
| We can also show individual acts of backdating absentee ballots to make them look like they came in by the 3rd when in fact they came in on the 4th and the 5th. | ||
| And we basically have to make up 50,000 votes and we're well within that margin in Pennsylvania. | ||
| We're at about 250,000 illegal votes. | ||
| Again, the same way. | ||
| They didn't allow Republicans to inspect. | ||
| But we have one really egregious one, which is 100,000 votes that were brought in at 4.30 in the morning. | ||
| They were brought in in paper bags and in cardboard boxes. | ||
| We have three witnesses to that, and all those votes were provided. | ||
| Then, during the regular process, the Republicans were excluded. | ||
| If you add those two things together, and Michigan's inspection rule is extremely strict, I think there's a criminal penalty to prevent it, we've got a really good chance in Michigan of having those votes discounted. | ||
| And if you have those votes discounted, he wins the state by probably the 100,000 he actually won it by. | ||
| And then we're going to bring Sue, I think you already spoke to Kelly, I think the situation in Arizona is one in which it was very close, so you don't need anywhere the number of irregularities you have in the biggest states, but there are certainly enough so that we can bring suit there for fraud. | ||
| You know we can bring suit in Nevada, but there are plenty of situations in Nevada where votes were calculated incorrectly, false votes were put in. | ||
| I mean, in Las Vegas that happens regularly. | ||
| It's not an unusual practice. | ||
| And then we have to look at Wisconsin. | ||
| That's the one I haven't taken a good look at, but we will. | ||
| So that'll leave us with pretty much a pattern around the country where the Democrats basically had a strategy with these mail ballots of excluding Republicans from examining them. | ||
| And they only did it in the big cities where they have a corrupt machine and they have complete control over the courts. | ||
| They didn't do it everywhere. | ||
| They picked their spots, but they picked them very, very well. | ||
| Mayor, last question. | ||
| I know you've got to bounce, so we've got an organized effort now, a strategy, you're going forward. | ||
| Stepien has done a tremendous job in the campaign, Jason Miller's a great comms guy. | ||
| Are people like yourself and some random names like Sidney Powell and Lin Wood, are you guys going to get more out in front on the media? | ||
| Because I think one of the things that's missing here is an overall narrative that ties together what you're trying to do legally on the ground with where it connects to where the votes are, and how you're trying to go wholesale and disqualify big sections of these ballots that are going onesies, twosies. | ||
| The President gave an interview with Byron Yorker and the Examiner. | ||
| He kind of gets it. | ||
| I mean, he knows the numbers, he kind of gets the overall strategy And it's about certification. | ||
| Are people like Sidney Powell and Lin Wood and yourself going to at least be out there more on the media side, walking people through, particularly the CNNs and MSNBCs of the world and the New York Times and the Washington Post? | ||
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They don't let me on. | |
| I mean, I call up for interviews and they won't let me be interviewed. | ||
| Even Fox doesn't let me be interviewed. | ||
| I mean, it's complete censorship, Steve. | ||
| It's outrageous. | ||
| I mean, I can't get on to describe the lawsuit that I wrote. | ||
| And that is now in front of a court in Pennsylvania who really had a preliminary victory in it. | ||
| I couldn't put on a witness who put a sworn affidavit in. | ||
| And they didn't think it was supported enough. | ||
| I mean, they put on anonymous witnesses. | ||
| This person swore under oath. | ||
| under penalty of perjury that it was true. You're pretty safe as a reporter putting that person on. | ||
| So the games that are going on, I mean, isn't it a game? It's a disgusting censorship, very similar to what was going on with the Biden hard drive that revealed all those millions of dollars that, disgustingly, the Bidens got from China. | ||
| So if they're limiting, and I'll let you go after that, if they're limiting not just your access, but other people's access to explain this, how do you expect or how do you anticipate, look, for alternative media, you guys have fled the zone and I think everybody in the Trump base understands what's happening, at least some modicum of it, but it's to maybe the general public and particularly to the opposition. | ||
| So how do you anticipate either the president or yourself, you know, basically breaking through? | ||
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Well, first of all, we conduct guerrilla warfare. | |
| We go on all of the network stations, local stations, local radio stations that will listen to us. | ||
| That gets us to a lot of the population. | ||
| We've got to use the President, because we may even cut him off, but not nearly as much. | ||
| And then we look for as many opportunities as we can to get on the major stations. | ||
| But we have to do it using social media, using The network of non, let's call it big network, major media operations that cut you off. | ||
| NBC, CBS, ABC. | ||
| If you were to say this there, they basically want you to lose your job, never be employed again, and probably have your family taken away from you. | ||
| I mean, one of the lawyers in the case had to drop out because his law firm was going to fire him because they got pressure from their clients. | ||
| I mean, what's that all about? | ||
| I mean, that's not America. | ||
| Everybody's entitled to warriors. | ||
| I mean, this is what they tried to do to John Adams, you know, when he defended the British troops. | ||
| All right, the Boston Tea Party, or the Boston Massacre. | ||
| Okay, Mayor, I know you've got to go. | ||
| We look forward to having you on over the weekend. | ||
| I know you're working 24-7, and you're going to be the tip of the spear of this, so God bless. | ||
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Okay, take care. | |
| Bye-bye. | ||
| So, I mean, here's the reality. | ||
| It's obviously information warfare, it's a PSYOP, but you've got to punch through somehow. | ||
| Quite frankly, and CNN cuts away as soon as the President gets rolling on the vaccine, but I think you're going to have to have what we call forcing functions. | ||
| You're going to have to do something to make them listen. | ||
| It's like on the campaign when I first took over and Jared and I talked about, we sent the President to mexico because they were hammered this in sixteen the harmony but he got a good and visit the for the president mexico this gotta shut up and listen to it right and that's what happened he got a full day of you know down there with the president mexico it's a forcing function you're going to have to do some forcing functions here and you're gonna have to mix it up And maybe you have to go in the Rose Garden with the President and the legal team next to him and lay it out. | ||
| And force them ahead. | ||
| If they don't want to cover the President of the United States, other people will. | ||
| Right? | ||
| But I think you're going to have to do some forcing functions to do this, because these hearings next week, you're having an appellate court hearing in the state with Michigan. | ||
| You're going to have the first round, really, of the federal court in the Western District of Pennsylvania. | ||
| You're going to be in federal court in Michigan. | ||
| You're filing in Georgia. | ||
| In Nevada, I think, either tonight or over the weekend. | ||
| So next week is kind of game day. | ||
| You've got these certifications coming up, right? | ||
| These certifications coming up at the local level. | ||
| But once you start building momentum there, right? | ||
| It leads to these certifications. | ||
| In every state's different. | ||
| Some have the Some have the legislatures involved, others just the Secretary of State. | ||
| And there's so many questions that haven't been answered. | ||
| I know we're going to get up in a second or sometime. | ||
| You've got letters from Democrats questioning the Dominion thing. | ||
| And the more you go into this Dominion thing, the more you have discovery on it, it stinks to high heaven. | ||
| The only thing that doesn't stink in the whole Dominion thing is the folks in Texas. | ||
| That literally did due diligence and destroyed him. | ||
| But you look in Georgia and you find out that the Chief of Staff, oh, who happens to be a lobbyist and represents these guys, you know, how greasy is it down in Georgia? | ||
| Where former Chief of Staff of Kemp, who by the way used to be a Secretary of State, Right? | ||
| And in this whole business. | ||
| Now we got this company and people are saying, well, it's, you know, the servers are in Germany, the votes are counted here. | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| And you can't just put up what's on the Internet. | ||
| You gotta do due diligence. | ||
| But it's, you know, this thing's to high heaven. | ||
| I want to go back at about a minute and a half here. | ||
| In Arizona, right? | ||
| Why should people feel good about where the President stands in Arizona right now? | ||
| Well, I think you said it. | ||
| It's about momentum. | ||
| And Arizona and all these states that we're fighting in right now, it's about people understanding. | ||
| This is what I heard over and over and over and over again. | ||
| People just don't trust the process anymore. | ||
| And so we may not get the numbers. | ||
| Obviously, there's 11,000 plus votes to count. | ||
| President Trump's down by 10,800 or 10,900. | ||
| So it's not going to come from there. | ||
| But the bottom line is, with all of the Potential fraud, all of the potential allegations, everything that we're seeing across the country. | ||
| I think we've just gotten to a place where finally people aren't buying the BS. | ||
| I mean, just think about the fact that the only reason we don't have widespread voter fraud is because we never investigate it. | ||
| This is what happens every single time we have people like Rudy Giuliani come out. | ||
| They start asking the questions. | ||
| Mainstream media Shuts them down. | ||
| Says, ah, it doesn't exist. | ||
| You're a tinfoil hat wearer. | ||
| Move on. | ||
| Let's move on. | ||
| Let's move on. | ||
| This fraud exists all over the country. | ||
| If we're willing to go and investigate. | ||
| So, bottom line is you have to keep the pedal down. | ||
| From here on out. | ||
| And you have to have a cohesive message. | ||
| And that's what I heard from the voters in Arizona. | ||
| They're not going to stop until it's proven right. | ||
| Until we see what's actually happening and the enemies, the liars within are exposed. | ||
| They're not going to buy right now the Pablum that's being shoved to them out in Arizona, right? | ||
| They're going to want to see a full audit. | ||
| They're going to want to see exactly what Dominion Systems is doing in Maricopa County. | ||
| The entire thing, right? | ||
| They want to see the receipts. | ||
| They want to get in the details. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They're not buying what they're selling. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| We're going to go to Tarrant County in Texas. | ||
| Talk to the sheriff down there about stop the steal. | ||
| Big weekend. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| OK, we've got breaking news out of Pennsylvania from Greg Mance. | ||
| What do you got for us, Greg? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So coming out of Delaware County, there is missing data. | ||
| And Delaware County is one of the suburban collar counties in the area. | ||
| So some of this missing data that poll workers from the minority are being requested to return back to the headquarters in Delaware County include missing yellowed numbered list of voters, incorrect numbers in the yellow book, which are numbers that do not match the scanner tabulation, Missing ballot reconciliation forms, and this impacts the chain of custody. | ||
| Missing information on the close of an election night, and their missing return sheet. | ||
| You do this a lot in Pennsylvania. | ||
| Isn't it a little odd that we're nine days after this and I get an email out to the folks to say, hey, you've got to come back when we don't have this stuff, we can't put our hands on it? | ||
| And Delaware County is not a small county. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| It's highly populated, just outside. | ||
| But the key in all of this is Delaware County has been a Republican stronghold for years, but recently the courthouse did flip, so now Democrats do control that county. | ||
| Okay, we're going to get into this more. | ||
| The other thing from Pennsylvania, quickly, Montgomery County, which is right next to Delaware, Philadelphia, and Bucks County, neither of these, none of these counties are reporting any provisional ballots right now. | ||
| This is true of about half the counties in the state of Pennsylvania. | ||
| Shouldn't it be 100,000 plus provisional ballots, 200,000 plus? | ||
| It's got to be something. | ||
| I mean, we have affidavits from several of them. | ||
| We still haven't gotten a straight answer. | ||
| There's 2.6 million, I think, going to be mail-in ballots at the end of the day. | ||
| We still haven't gotten the kill ratio or anything, or how things on the naked ballots were cured, or if they were cured. | ||
| The analysis is 100,000 or 200,000. | ||
| Greater minds than ours are working on this right now, and they promise they're going to get back to us. | ||
| Okay, we want to go out to Texas and to Tarrant County. | ||
| Sheriff Bill Weyburn. | ||
| And Sheriff is putting on one of the Stop the Steal rallies tomorrow. | ||
| There's a huge rally here to support President Trump. | ||
| The Chinese, New Federal States, having a rally of the Free Chinese to support the Democratic process. | ||
| It's amazing what's happening throughout the country. | ||
| Sheriff, thank you for being in the War Room with us. | ||
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Well, thank you for having me. | |
| So can you tell us what's going on tomorrow in Tarrant County, and how can people participate? | ||
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Well, if they'll go online, it's right there. | |
| It's with Colonel Allen West, who's actually the host of it, and he's leading the way. | ||
| He's at the tip of the spear on this. | ||
| And we'll be over in Dallas County tomorrow afternoon at 2 o'clock. | ||
| And we've got some marvelous speakers. | ||
| I see Dana Lash is going to be there, and certainly Alan West is always a pleasure to hear. | ||
| And what they're doing is alerting the public that, hey, we want to make sure that things are done right. | ||
| And I think the greatest challenge is for everybody to come alongside and let's turn over all the rocks and make sure this is a legitimate and good election. | ||
| And if we don't, we'll have a seriously divided country. | ||
| So it's just a rule of law thing for me. | ||
| Sheriff, you've got some great speakers in Dana and Colonel West who have been with the Tea Party movement for over a decade. | ||
| You guys down in Texas are pretty well sorted, and in Florida pretty well sorted. | ||
| How do people in Texas right now look at what's going on in places like Pennsylvania, places like Michigan, places even like Georgia, you know, southern state like Georgia? | ||
| What are folks down there saying when they look at this chaos? | ||
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Well, I think that Folks down here are talking about the thing, drive through McDonald's and hand them a card and go on their way in just a minute, and we can't even manage to vote, number one. | |
| And number two is, these voting centers and county election officers, they have one job. | ||
| One job. | ||
| And here we are with a mess on our hands, and they don't understand the chaos. | ||
| Would you, as you see President Trump, he's getting a lot of grief from the mainstream media, but he's given every signal today in this interview he gave with Byron York, other people he's talking to, we just had Rudy on, Rudy's over at campaign headquarters, that President Trump's saying, hey, I won, and we're going to close on that victory. | ||
| How is it perceived down in Texas right now? | ||
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I think people are very, very hopeful that the president is absolutely correct. | |
| The circles I travel in, they believe that something has gone on that shouldn't have gone on up there. | ||
| And they want to see it corrected. | ||
| They want to make sure that the right thing is done. | ||
| They want to make sure that the election is correct. | ||
| But there's a lot of hopeful people in Texas that President Trump will be our president for the next four years. | ||
| But I would say also the good people of Texas, just like me, it's a rule of law state. | ||
| They want to see the right thing done. | ||
| And even if the shoes were on the other foot, they would want the right thing done and let the good votes fall where they may. | ||
| So you're saying every fair vote, every legal vote, every certifiable vote's gotta count, and whatever that count comes out, hey, that guy's president and we'll live with it. | ||
| But you can't run a process where you have uncertifiable, unverifiable, no chain of custody votes that are counted. | ||
| Am I hearing you correct? | ||
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You heard me very correctly. | |
| Sheriff Weyburn, how can people get more access to you on social media, and how can they find out more about your Stop the Steal rally tomorrow in Texas? | ||
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They can go to my Facebook page at Bill at Bill Weyburn, and they can also go to Alan West's Facebook page to look at that and find out all the details there, and tell them to arrive early. | |
| It's going to be a beautiful day in Texas, and liberty is going to be ringing very loud. | ||
| Sheriff, thank you very much for joining us in the War Room. | ||
| Really appreciate it. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Every day in Texas is a beautiful day, isn't it? | ||
| It is. | ||
| Particularly for the folks down in Texas. | ||
| I mean, talk about a guy right out of Central Casting, too, right? | ||
| Central Casting. | ||
| That's like from a John Ford movie. | ||
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Right. | |
| We've talked about this so many times. | ||
| Sheriffs are so fundamental to our rights because these guys are the last stopgap between the feds and you. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| We're going to come back. | ||
| We're going to have Brandon Strock from the WalkAway movement. | ||
| We're going to talk about this rally tomorrow. | ||
| My understanding, you think this rally is connecting with people and we're going to have a good turnout? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Half the plane I was on coming from Phoenix was Trump hats and people coming out. | ||
| I mean, they're fed up. | ||
| I think a lot of people We're shocked by the election. | ||
| I think we kind of surprised him. | ||
| It snuck up on him. | ||
| And to have that, and I think most people on the Trump side thought it was done. | ||
| President Trump was going to be the president and there was nothing that, even though they knew the fraud was coming, they felt like they could outvote the fraud. | ||
| And so I think there's just a sense in America, we're not ready to quit. | ||
| We're not ready to stop fighting. | ||
| This is, and really I hope that is, it's just getting started. | ||
| I mean, people need to understand that. | ||
| Either way, it was just getting started. | ||
| The fight that we're in, this is 50 years of fight, and it's just getting started. | ||
| Ben Berquam's going to stay, be our co-host for the second hour. | ||
| We're going to get Brandon Strzok in here. | ||
| We've got a lot to cover in the next hour. | ||
| Take a short commercial break. |
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