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Nov. 26, 2024 - Blood Money
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Boris Epshteyn and President Donald Trump - "Is Epshteyn charging for access to Trump?"
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all right guys welcome to this episode of blood money This is actually an episode that we released close to a year ago.
A whistleblower comes out about Boris Epstein.
Now, recently we've heard these claims that Boris Epstein has been asking for money for connections to connect people within the Trump campaign.
And this is something that we heard during this expose.
So we thought it would be important to re-release this episode.
The goal of such episodes has been to protect Donald J. Trump and protect the America First movement in order to make sure that the kind of corruption we've seen on the Democrats' side does not plague the America First movement.
Thank you so much for joining us for this episode.
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Thank you.
All right, so welcome to the latest Blood Money episode.
For this episode, we actually have an individual that has inside knowledge about the Trump campaign.
And this individual, whose identity will remain a secret because of safety concerns, has been collecting information over the last couple of years having to do with a potential mole within the Trump campaign that has been tasked We're doing things that are negative to the Trump campaign, meaning even bringing the Trump campaign down.
So we're going to interview this gentleman.
So, you know, let's just dive right into it.
You've been collecting information about a gentleman named Boris Epstein, who is integrally involved with the Trump campaign, seems to have Donald Trump's trust.
Now, let's, you know, explain to me what is the nature of the information you've collected The information that I've obtained, most of it is actually from public sources.
Some of it is from personal observation, but most of it is from public sources.
And taken on its own, each piece of information may not make sense to people, but when you put together a jigsaw puzzle, you can see the picture.
And for me, and a whole bunch of other people that have worked for Getting 45 back into office and even before that, the picture's pretty clear.
We're afraid to talk about it in public.
We're afraid to talk about it over text messages, phone calls.
It's really a hush-hush thing.
And the people who've really pushed this are no longer associated with former President Donald Trump.
So are you saying that they were pushed out of the Trump campaign by potentially ill-meaning parties or an ill-meaning party?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
They were pushed out, they were relegated, they were besmirched and They're no longer allowed to take part.
Some are trying desperately to get back in.
Let's get into some of the details about Mr. Boris Epstein.
Let's go through this in chronological order about some of the evidence you've collected, things that are within the public domain that when put together might insinuate that this gentleman is actually within the Trump campaign for negative ill results.
Well, it didn't come chronological order to me or To the group of individuals that I'm familiar with here, it came kind of like as a shock one after another.
But if you want to go back from the beginning, obviously we did digging after we thought that there was a concern.
And I think the thing that really sparked us to start the digging was after President Trump was elected and after a lot of people were brought into the White House and put to work, One individual in particular couldn't get a security clearance and that was Mr. Epstein.
A lot of people wanted to know why.
We were told don't ask and we didn't because if you like your job you don't ask questions you're not supposed to.
But that really was a concern because why wouldn't this guy who was a campaign advisor and who had worked on the McCain campaign as well, why wouldn't he be able to get a security clearance?
And so it kind of, you know, brought up some issues, you know, with people and, you know, you tend to look and And say, hey, I wonder why when you have a free moment, which you rarely do.
And that's really what started it here.
And that was obviously, oh gosh, that was six years ago.
So a lot has developed since then.
We're talking about 2017. Yeah, 2017. Right, right.
And, you know, normally I thought that somebody who doesn't have a security clearance would, you know, just be relegated and fired and be gone.
But no, he...
He managed to stick around and embed himself further.
So, you know, a lot of us are asking ourselves, what was it?
And if President Trump gets re-elected, will he also not be able to work in the White House if he's still around?
Because who knows what's going on.
Well, alright, so let's go through some of the other piece of evidence that would indicate what you're saying to be true.
Well, what we turned up, and I think you have some of the links, and a lot of this information was compiled by different people.
A lot of it was compiled by some research, you know, online.
But apparently, you know, Mr. Epstein, you know, came over.
He's not American-born.
His parents were Russian.
He came over here and it was interesting to see what happened with his father.
But it looked to us like when he was in school, he was kind of pushed toward getting close to President Trump through association with his son, Eric.
You know, he was put into the same school that Eric went to.
Which, by the way, is a school that some three-letter agencies here go to to recruit people for jobs.
Are you allowed to say what the name of the school is?
Yeah.
Yeah, well, I'd rather not, but I think you have it there.
You know, really, really talk about it.
But it was in Washington, D.C. and where he befriended Eric Trump and then he got invited to a whole bunch of social, social events with And that's how he originally got close to him.
But, you know, I just think it's funny because it's kind of the same thing that Michael Cohen did to get close.
Michael Cohen befriended Don Jr., and then that's how he got close.
And Boris, who people around, you know, The former president called him Michael Cohen 2.0.
And by the way, Michael and him did not get along.
In fact, Michael, as much of a liar as he's been, and whatever, he immediately hated I mean, I think they had a lot in common and, you know, people can see themselves in each other.
And that was also a tell.
Wow.
Wow.
All right.
Keep going.
And I might not get everything in order because there's a lot here.
But, you know, what happened next, of course, is he started promoting for Trump and, you know, he's been on a lot of TV shows and everything.
I think the former president really likes him because he's a big guy, and President Trump's like big, assertive, strong people like himself.
Physically big, isn't it?
Yeah, yeah, physically big.
Not like workout big, but likes to eat a lot of food big.
And intimidating, which he definitely is.
And he's been known to use four-letter words very freely, even in professional situations where it's uncalled for, but that's not here or there.
So I guess, you know, what happened next is at some point he got involved in promoting, and this is before, this is going back to 2000, I believe it's 2013. He was promoting business for Moscow in the Invest in Moscow conference around October 2013. This is what,
you know, we found, and this is online, this is nothing private, but, you know, we thought it was odd that he was actually working with the Moscow city government and including Sergei Chairman, who was a city minister involved also in And I believe he was the head of Moscow's Foreign Economic and International Relations Department in the government and also some other people who had ties to the FSB over there,
which is kind of the Russian equivalent of the CIA. So we don't know what the relationship is.
You know, we can guess about why he's promoting Moscow in America around about 2013 and also involved in the McCain campaign as well.
That was really interesting and really troublesome.
We didn't know, you know, understanding that he couldn't get a security clearance, whether he had some association or former association with the FSB. We don't know why, but it was something to be concerned about.
And it's worth mentioning that while he was working on the On the McCain campaign that he got involved with a young lady who is now MSNBC host named Nicole.
And, you know, they've stayed, quote unquote, friends since then.
And, you know, we can talk about that later.
He has a wife or?
Yeah, he's married with kids.
He's married into a fairly prominent family.
And, you know, I've never met any of those people or anything.
But, you know, you hear and you read.
And it becomes really interesting.
It's almost like this is a movie that was thrust into real life.
And hopefully someday somebody will make it into a movie.
Everything we're talking about is going to be in the descriptions in chronological order with links so you can see this all for yourself and make your own decision.
If what this gentleman is saying, does it have, you know, weight to it?
Is it true?
I mean, there's a lot of information here.
So let's talk a little bit about this p-tape.
There was a rumor, obviously there's no evidence this particular rumor, but let's talk about the p-tape rumor that has been going around the Trump campaign.
Well, this is something that we read about also, where the Steele dossier had a source that was referred to using similar letters to Boris's name, you know, B.E. We didn't know at that particular time, we didn't think it was anything, but there was a lot of chatter, and there is a lot of chatter going on about that, about who he was really working with.
And then somebody said, somebody brought up, and once again, none of this, we're not saying any of this is factual.
We don't know.
But when you have so many coincidences, and the saying is, you know, if it quacks like a duck, it looks like a duck, it smells like a duck, and it walks like a duck, it's probably not a lion.
And that's really what made us really come together and think, wow, this is unbelievable.
How can this be happening?
And how can President Trump not know what You know, a lot of us can tell you that we can't get close or anybody can't get close to him because Boris has a gauntlet and is very careful about who has access, you know, to President Trump, at least from his legal team.
So he's definitely siphoned off.
There's a choke point and everybody else stays on the other side of the fence.
What is it about that p-tape that the rumor, from what I understand, is that Boris Epstein might have created that rumor, like he actually came up with the idea.
What is it that would indicate that, based upon what you've heard?
Well, there's just been reports, third-party reports, going back all the way to the Steele dossier, that that was him, that he was the guy that did this.
And this is before he was even more well-known on working.
You know, with Trump.
So I don't know where that came from.
I don't have any first or even secondhand information about that.
But I just think it's interesting that it's out there because, you know, it was an attempt to take down the former president.
And why would somebody be doing that?
He didn't have any personal reason to take him down.
And so, you know, you got to think, okay, well, who's he working with?
And we all know that the intelligence agencies were part of the Steele dossier.
You know, especially after the Durham report.
And so, was he part of that?
We don't know.
But it's just one of a series of things that, you know, were brought to our attention that maybe makes sense when you put everything together.
Which people really have to look at.
But that's just an aside.
That's just glitter.
You know, the real meat and potatoes is, you know, what's going on now.
So let me ask you in terms of, there's a few things here, like what I was talking about before, where MSNBC did a sweetheart piece on Boris.
Talk a little bit about that, because that to me doesn't make sense because they don't necessarily do sweetheart pieces on people that are on the right side, especially associated with Trump.
Well, you know, when I saw that, I was blown away because MSNBC hate Donald Trump as much as, you know, they hate nails on a chalkboard.
But apparently, and this is confirmed, you know, Nicole Wallace, who's also one of the top hosts for MSNBC, Part of the McCain campaign, stayed close, and rumors, and once again, I have no first hand knowledge of this, but rumors are that they were more than close and more than friends, and stayed that way for a while, even though one or both of them were married.
Nicole got divorced in 2019. Once again, rumors were that he may have been the reason.
I don't know, but I've heard more than one person talk about it over a beer.
Rumors go around Washington all the time, but that one was interesting.
And even after that, it just seems that Nicole Wallace and MSNBC were getting information that only Boris or the Trump campaign had knowledge of.
They were the first to know things Um, which I thought was interesting.
And then all of a sudden, Nicole Wallace's best friend and, you know, co-anchor on a lot of stuff, Ari Melber, is doing a piece on Boris, which is basically complimenting him and saying, you know, this guy was in the middle of a shitstorm, for lack of a better term.
And everybody around him got indicted.
Everybody around him got in trouble.
But he was apparently smart enough to keep himself out.
And let's see what happens.
But, you know, this guy is somebody to watch.
And why would Ari Melber, who hates everything red, Every Republican.
Why would R.E. Melbaugh be doing, I don't know, a 10-15 minute beautified piece on Boris Epstein?
You know, the one thing I want to point out there that doesn't make sense to me is that, you know, they've been going after this Russia, Russia, Russia hoax, right?
And now you have a gentleman that is directly linked to actual Russian politicians and is having a conference in Moscow in 2013. Physical, actual evidence with contact, right?
And yet, he's got fluff pieces on the mainstream news.
That is very odd.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, nobody mentions him really, which is interesting.
And the fact that he's protected is even more interesting.
He's always one step ahead of the game.
Anybody who knows him, and I'm not going to say I know him really well, But anybody who knows him knows that he's a couple eggs short of a dozen.
He's barely smart enough to keep his head above water and he uses his, you know, obnoxious self in order to scare people.
And if he's ever challenged, he'll try and frighten people down.
He's not a logical person.
He's a good speaker.
He's a good arguer.
But he doesn't have the wits about him to keep his head above water on everything that's happened to him so far.
It looks like, and everybody agrees, that he's got some protection from somebody.
And we know it's not President Trump.
It's somebody in the government that's protecting him.
Wow.
Okay, so let's talk a little bit about this idea that, from what I'm reading here, that he is essentially the intermediary between any lawyers and Trump.
So any lawyers that actually want to speak with Donald Trump, former President Donald Trump, have to go through him.
I mean, firstly, how was that arranged and why does that even exist as one person that is literally the gatekeeper?
Well, I can't tell you how it came about.
I think it was probably slowly, over a long period of time, earning former President Trump's trust.
But basically any of the Trump legal team that works for him now or that wants to work for him was brought on by Boris.
And if they don't agree with the way that Boris wants to work, they're not going to work for Boris.
I don't want to give you individual names of attorneys who've been thrown to the side by Boris, because that's only known by a couple of people and I don't want to be outed because of that.
But, you know, you can look at Tim Parlator who basically, you know, came in and then had to deal with Boris in terms of doing a job defending the president and he wasn't having any of it.
And there were other lawyers as well.
But Tim went out of his way to let everybody know what happened.
He went out of his way to let everybody know that bars was the problem.
Really?
Yeah.
Wow.
And he's written about it.
He's been on all the major news networks about it.
Look, he's a stand-up guy, and he's not afraid of anything or anybody.
And it was shocking to everybody that even after that happened, President Trump still was slow to recognize the issue.
And I think something that people believe is that That Boris is handling completely for President Trump, that if he were to go away, if Boris was to go away, there would be complete chaos in the Trump legal team.
And that's something that, you know, I don't know, can't be handled.
I don't know what's going to happen, but I think things are going to really come to a head soon because there's some things that are going on with The Jack Smith case, the trials in Georgia that are going to expose Boris for what we believe that he is.
Okay, so let's talk about, and by the way, we're gonna get into some information that's very incriminating in my opinion, but let's talk about this Washington Post flattering piece about Boris.
So we already talked about the MSNBC piece, but then Washington Post also writes another flattering piece about Boris?
Why?
I don't know.
They didn't write anything flattering about anybody else associated with the former president.
We all know who controls the Washington Post.
We all know who controls MSNBC. You know, it's the same type of people.
It's the same intelligence agencies that are pushing their agenda through these news organizations.
And, you know, people can read for themselves what it said, but the question is, why?
It doesn't make any sense.
And the only thing that we can think of is that, you know, we can just use it to say, hey, look, I'm doing such a good job that even our opponents think I'm doing a good job.
You know, and that's why I have to stick around because they see me as a threat.
And, you know, that's how probably he justifies all this other crap that he's created.
Look, it's public information.
You know, if somebody can't get a security clearance that's trying to work for the government, which is basically the government is for the people, you know, that's out there.
And you can make a Freedom of Information Act and get information.
But I don't think you can get the why.
You know, you can't get the security clearance reports.
But yeah, a whole bunch of people came out about that and were very concerned.
Other people were surprised that he still was able to stick around.
His wife's uncle, I guess, was trying to bring Boris, who says that he's an investment banker.
Into the realm of things, basically trying to give him work, trying to do things with him.
And there was a couple of instances, and nobody had first-hand information about this, but this is all public information.
And the public information is basically that his uncle, and you know, I prefer not to say his name, but Anyway, it's his wife's uncle and the last name of Newman brought him early into a company called West America Securities,
which by the way FINRA, which governs investment bankers, banned in 2013. So Boris was the managing director of business and legal affairs.
And of course, Boris is a registered broker who was brought into this company.
Half of that company was owned by his uncle and half of the company, his wife's uncle, and half of the company was owned by a guy called Robert Brian K. And by the way, Robert Brian K is also FINRA band.
And the, how can I say?
I believe that had to do with Brazilian bonds that were being offered to clients, purportedly held Brazilian bonds, face values of about 875 million dollars and Japanese bonds that supposedly had a value of 23 billion dollars.
And it had something to do with unverified representations of people whose identities weren't verified to get money to invest in these things.
I guess everything just went south and they were worthless.
There was a series of letters and receipts and this is all public information.
So you're talking about massive fraud.
You're talking about people invested in bonds that then were worthless?
Is that what you're saying?
Yeah.
And this is his wife's uncle?
His wife's uncle apparently brought him into this.
This company was formed in 1993. Like I said, he was the managing director of business and legal affairs.
Now, you know, the one main owner, Robert K., got banned and got in a lot of trouble.
But him and his uncle?
Nothing.
Nothing, wow.
I don't know why.
I don't know what the difference was.
And that was all around 2013. And then there was another company.
Which we found out about, and I believe that if, just looking at my notes here, is around a similar time, 2012 or 2015, It was called GeneSys Research Institute.
Gene, not a name, but genetics.
GeneSys Research Institute.
Supposedly this company, which had a lot of government funding, made some tremendous Tremendous achievements in the fight against cancer, certain types of cancer, and it was run by some very, very well-known scientists, which, how can I say, gave it real credibility.
But apparently, once again, it looks like Charles Newman, Boris's wife's uncle, and a guy, I don't know who he is, David Horowitz, but his name keeps popping up.
They brought Boris in and put him on the board along with themselves.
And then all of a sudden, once these guys got together and went on the board, the entire company collapsed and money allegedly became diverted away from the scientists.
I mean, are you telling me that this was essentially a controlled demolition of a cancer drug or a process to get rid of cancer that was potentially intimidating to the powers that be?
Because we've heard a lot of stories about how breakthroughs like that are not necessarily good for the medical industrial complex.
Are you saying that Boris and his allies were potentially put in a situation to destroy the company from the inside?
I'll let everybody make up their own minds, but you know, if you're looking at something, I mean, it looks that way, you know?
And there was an article that we read, I think it was Commonwealth Magazine, which was suppressed.
If you look even at Google searches, it's hard to find it.
Which also, who controls Google searches, you know?
And it basically was talking about Horowitz, Newman, and Epstein.
And it said, you know, regarding Horowitz and Newman, It said that there's a trail of personal bankruptcies and corporate fiscal mismanagement by Horowitz and Newman.
The record includes judgments and fines against them involving stock fraud in Michigan, Minnesota, and New York, and a finding by a Massachusetts court judge that Horowitz was indigent in an eviction case against him.
Which didn't make any sense to me, but it looks like, you know, there's a bunch of times that these guys did this.
I don't know, but...
You know, that was pretty interesting.
And once again, that article talks about how there were complaints made, you know, to the authorities, to the Department of Justice, to the State Attorney General's office.
And guess what?
Nothing happened.
But Horowitz and Newman got into trouble.
I don't know that anybody actually got into trouble on that one.
And these were government funds, and it looks like the patents were just either given away or all of the research was destroyed from what I'm reading.
Once again, I have no first-hand knowledge of this.
This is all public information that's just being put together.
All of the research was destroyed and nothing happened.
It went into bankruptcy and nothing.
Well, no repercussions for the people that did this and the scientists were tremendously upset.
They hired a private investigator to help them and nothing really happened.
His background in working with these companies as an investment banker really sparks interest And so these guys, you know, there's always somebody accusing somebody of fraud, but you know, Three in a row.
You know, that's a little weird.
And, you know, there is a current complaint, I don't know, I haven't looked at it in a while, for $940,000 against, you know, one of the founders and the company that he is the managing director of business and legal affairs for.
It has to do, I guess, with an investment that was given.
And, you know, something called Tandem Global Partners or something like that.
And, you know, it's not a good thing.
On top of that, there was another case against the company from Sigma Development Corporation.
So all of these fraud allegations are coming out of left field.
And, you know, you don't know why nothing's happening to him or why his name isn't mentioned anywhere.
It's almost like he's got a guardian angel somewhere.
That is really protecting him.
And none of this makes sense.
And that's why, you know, we're talking to you.
But this guy from, you know, the current company, James Tomorrow, you know, they were talking about, you know, large multimillion dollar, well, I guess it was $940,000 going back from 2014 to 2020. So the company was Pebbles Digital Media.
And God knows what that was, but apparently there was somebody who was convinced to invest in it and went south.
And Boris was on the board of that company?
No, I think he was the managing director.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
In charge of business and legal affairs.
So, you know, there's a lot of stuff there.
And I just tell people, go and make up your own minds.
Go and take a look and see.
But, hey, nothing's going on on that.
And then, of course, Aside from that stuff, you know, his investment banking background is, I would say, is not necessarily stellar.
You know, but then you have him being arrested twice, I believe, in Arizona.
This made the news, although it didn't make real mainstream media news.
Once for punching a guy in the face.
Okay, so let's talk about the punching a guy in the face, right?
Well, apparently he was at a bar drinking and he got into some sort of argument with a guy.
And I believe, you know, Boris is a big guy.
He's what, like 6'5", 6'6".
He got into a fight with somebody, I argue with somebody who was a foot shorter than him.
And he punched him in the face and he was arrested.
Nothing happened to him.
And you're saying the mainstream media didn't talk about it.
It was covered, but it wasn't really, you know, you wouldn't see it, you know, on a front page of the New York Times or anything like that.
I mean, I think normally they would say, wow, look at this.
This is Trump's guy.
And this is what he did.
But it didn't get the coverage.
What year?
What year?
I think this was about six years ago.
Wow.
Yeah.
And then he was out drinking apparently another time, I believe, was also in Arizona.
And, you know, this woman called the police.
And the police came and there's actually a video of that on the web showing, you know, him being arrested, you know, in front of a police van.
It looks like he was intoxicated, I don't know.
But I thought he was happily married.
What's he doing in a bar drinking at night and then groping other women?
So, you know, hey, I'll leave it up to your listeners to figure that one out.
Interesting.
Wow.
And you know, we've heard stories like Russell Brand where something that he did or might have done 25 years ago, he's getting persecuted for with no due process.
But then you have an individual here that's been arrested twice for what seems like violent or obscene actions and mainstream media is not going after him.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know why that is.
You know, this is all background information stuff.
It's not even the worst stuff, you know?
And now, you know, he's got this company called Georgetown Advisory, and it's got a website up there, and I think it's georgetownadvisory.us.
And, you know, basically it's saying that his company and him want to start advising foreign governments.
You know, it's supposedly a boutique advisory firm specializing in sovereign and strategic advisory.
And that's a little weird for, you know, the fact that he's working with, you know, President Trump and now he's seeking clients and, you know, what is he?
Is he Joe Biden's son?
Yeah, I mean, there's definitely shades of Hunter Biden here with all these different businesses, money flowing from one thing to the other.
Now, let me ask you, in terms of that, isn't that a conflict of interest if he's working on the Trump campaign but advising foreign companies and institutions?
One would think, you know, if you go to the map, I'm not saying any of this, you know, to make President Trump look bad because we support him.
You know, we really want to see him get back in office.
We just can't figure out what's going on and, you know, we don't know what to do about it.
Let's talk a little bit about him being intertwined with the Trump Save America PAC and Alina Habak.
Could you tell us a little bit about what that is?
Well, you know, the Sam America PAC is a political action committee that attorney Alina Haba is, I guess, now running.
And it looks like he's been paid from that PAC. And I know that he's butted heads with just about everybody in the Trump Organization.
And the way that you survive in the Trump Organization is you just don't try and Push him out.
Not that you could because, you know, the guy's a big guy.
You know, figuratively, literally, you know, you don't do that.
And the fact that Alina, in public knowledge, all over the place, you know, was moved to be Part of that just worried some of us, because she's a good spokesperson, she's a good lawyer.
Why was she put there, and then why is there this tie between Boris' company and the Save America PAC? I don't know if it's a setup, you know, just like Boris set up.
Christina Hobbs, the attorney that came in all of a sudden down in Florida and was pushed to deal with the FBI, and she felt set up.
Is this a setup for Alina?
Does she know this?
We don't know.
It's just really, really strange, and we know that they're not best buddies, you know, just something really odd, and we hope it works out well for, you know, for Alina.
Okay, so now with this reporter, Nicole Wallace, right, this is the lady that he is potentially having an affair with?
Well, rumors are that that's what was going on.
We don't know, you know, we We do know that they worked together while they worked on the McCain campaign.
They were together, like, they were definitely in a relationship.
We know they were working together, and they developed a really strong friendship.
We also know that Nicole was also the spokesperson for George W. Bush.
And, you know, there's a quote from MSNBC that says, she considered Mr. Epstein a friend that admired his political skills.
He's everything you want in a surrogate because he believes in his candidates.
I'm a political analyst for MSNBC. So that was 2016 in the New York Times, where she is flouting and she is, you know, saying great things about somebody who works for President Trump.
And she works side by side with Ari Milber.
Yeah, yeah, apparently they're best buddies.
So I wouldn't be surprised if You know, to just divert attention.
You know, she doesn't do the fluff piece on him.
She has her buddy Ari do it, you know, to do anything to protect him and, you know, destroy anybody who's not, you know, Boris Epstein.
So Nicole got some information from Boris that nobody else had, supposedly.
I mean, tell me a little bit about that.
Well, without getting into details, yeah, everybody was kind of surprised that MSNBC and Nicole Wallace was able to do breaking stories about the Trump campaign.
There was also another time where CNN got information before anything else that it was leaked out and nobody can figure out where it came from.
A lot of us kind of thought, yeah, this is where it came from.
But that was the only thing that made sense because the only person who's playing two sides here that we can see that we think is, is, you know, Boris.
So, you know, he's hated.
He's hated by a lot of people.
And, you know, we just go back to what Tim Parlator said and there was even A little less than a year ago, a threatened coup by everybody that works for the Trump Organization against Boris, that everybody threatened to quit unless he was fired.
He survived that too.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's crazy.
It's just crazy stuff.
And, you know, we don't think it's helping, you know, President Trump at all to have him around.
He just, he's never really, he's never been a trial lawyer.
You know, the fact that he's a lawyer, he doesn't even say half the time that he's a lawyer.
You know, a lot of times he just goes around and says he's a consultant.
So, you know, don't even get me started about, well, you're going to get me started about all of the indictments that's going on.
Let's talk about that now.
This is the portion of the interview that, to me, gets really suspect as far as, you know, what his intentions are here.
And who's protecting him?
Because let's talk a little bit about the persecution of the Donald Trump campaign and who wasn't persecuted, which seems to be Boris Epstein over and over again.
There's an example here of what happened with Fannie Willis.
You want to dive into that?
Yeah, when everything started going down and obviously Boris was acting, Um, you know, as some sort of legal counsel, he actually, I believe his title is the, uh, general counsel for the Trump organization is his title, but all the attorneys report to him.
So when that happened, um, you know, now he's, he's actually acting as attorney.
Supposedly he's got attorney client privilege.
But when things started going down in Georgia and, you know, before that in Washington, D.C., it was odd because, you know, he was told to come and he was subpoenaed.
He didn't fight anything.
He literally, like, took a trip and said, hey, let's talk.
And I believe that he went and appeared before the grand jury, Jack Smith's grand jury.
And not only that, but it's also been reported everywhere that he sat and met with the U.S. Attorney's Office that Jack Smith sat in on to be interviewed.
I believe it was more than a day.
Now, I would think that an attorney for President Trump being interviewed by Jack Smith's office would either be taking the Fifth Amendment because he was involved in some stuff or Would invoke attorney-client privilege.
I don't know.
I don't think any of that happened.
Or that his own attorney, and I'm not even sure if, you know, his attorney was there, you know, protecting him, but his attorney was Todd Blanche.
And Todd Blanche also represents President Trump.
So we don't know how that works.
If that's not a conflict of interest, I have no idea.
But what happened after that, at least in the Jack Smith case, and I'm sorry to jump around, it gets confusing, is that everybody got indicted around Boris.
Everybody got indicted, except Boris.
and everybody believes that he's one of the unindicted co-conspirators there.
And it's pretty clear, if you read through it, that he is.
And everybody was guessing, and they guessed right.
Okay, so you got that.
And then you got Fannie Willis in Georgia also inviting, you know, Boris to come down and testify before a grand jury and to meet with her.
And, of course, he's more than happy to do that.
And God knows what he did when he was down there.
But all I know is that October 4th of 2023...
Fannie Willis files a petition, public knowledge once again, petition for certificate of need for testimony before criminal prosecution pursuant to whatever, whatever, because the witness is from out of state.
So it's a court order to make the witness testify.
And Fannie Willis has said that Boris Epstein is a key witness in the case against the defendants.
One of the The others, of course, in the separated trial, Kenneth Cheeseborough and Sidney Powell.
Now, we were all thinking that, wow, what's it going to look like when that trial happens?
And then Boris Epstein gets on the stand and testifies against President Trump's former attorneys.
We were waiting with bated breath.
That trial, I believe, was supposed to start on a Monday.
And before then, Powell and Chesborough, I can't even say his name right, their plea deals, they accepted a plea deal and didn't go forward.
But we understood that before the Friday, before the trial was supposed to start, all of their plea deals included jail time.
And for some reason, I think and we're guessing that somebody realized that if Boris has to go on a stand and testify that his time with representing Trump is over.
So out of nowhere, apparently, they were offered deals that involve no jail time.
And just pleading to, you know, certain lower charges.
That was suspicious.
And the fact that he's considered, like, the main witness against President Trump and against everybody else there, Is everybody playing Helen Keller on this one?
I mean, how do you avoid that?
And how, if that's the case, is he still serving in any way, shape, or form as legal counsel for Donald Trump?
And, you know, that was the eye-opener for us, is that, alright, so now I think he's unindicted, co-conspirator number three in the Georgia case, and he's unindicted, co-conspirator number six in the Jack Smith case, and he's unindicted.
What does that tell anybody?
Everybody's indicted but him.
He's unindicted.
What's going on?
He's got the same lawyer as Donald Trump, Todd Blanche, who he brought in.
So, you know, you go figure, you draw your own conclusions about that.
But that smells.
That just smells.
I mean, I have a note here that when he was unindicted, according to the indictments that were coming down in Fulton County, that's when he flipped.
I mean, I know this is...
Assuming, but is this what you're assuming, that this is the point where he officially flipped and started helping the other side?
I don't know when it was, but apparently as soon as they asked him to come down and testify, he did.
He helped them, and now he's the main witness.
And talk about flipping.
I know we skipped over something before, and I think it's important not to miss this point, because this is really what controls everything.
And then we can get into, you know, go and finish this up.
But, you know, after he did the invest in Moscow thing, which was odd to say the You know, Russian, CIA, whatever.
If that was the case, then apparently people think that in order for him to continue here, because he wasn't a citizen, that he needed to work for the intelligence community.
The rumor is that probably the CIA or the FBI got their hands on them and said, hey, we know what's going on with you.
We think you could be useful to us.
So from now on, you work for us.
You do what we say, and then we will have your back, and we guarantee you protection, and we guarantee you will ride to the top.
And if you think about it, it all makes sense.
Because he's been able to stay one step ahead of everything.
He's untouchable.
He's not that smart.
He's got no experience in any kind of trials like this.
Yet he's running everybody's show.
And he's, you know, he's the new Teflon Don.
It just doesn't make any sense.
So we all think that he's actually working with, you know, the intelligence community against former President Trump.
Wow.
Wow.
All right.
So let's talk about, so according to Fannie Willis, he will be testifying against the defendants, but never was indicted there.
Right.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And it says, you know, if you look in her filed affidavit, that it says that he will provide All of the defendants, you know, with reference to their attempt to disrupt and delay the January 6th joint session of Congress.
Okay?
And that is unbelievable.
So they're talking about, you know, him being involved, you know, very closely involved with John Eastman, with Kenneth Chesborough.
With Sidney Powell on all of the counts, most of the counts, in the conspiracy as it relates to, you know, certain appearances that he took place at.
Look, he was on the stage with Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani and Chesborough and all these guys, and everybody on that stage got indicted except for Boris.
Wow.
Wow.
Come on.
I mean, I wasn't born yesterday.
Yeah, so I'm just going to read these and stop me, you know, if there's anything you want to add.
So, Washington D.C. resident Boris Epstein is a necessary and material witness to the proof of the state's case, specifically as defendant Sidney Powell's culpability and defendant Kenneth Chesborough's culpability.
So, this is a statement that Fannie Willis made?
Apparently, yeah.
Boris Epstein will provide evidence to the jury of Sidney Powell's involvement in the conspiracy, including without limitation as it relates to her appearance at the press conference on November 19, 2020. That's the press conference that Boris was at as well?
Yes.
Okay, and then next point.
Boris Epstein will also provide evidence to the jury of Kenneth Cheeseborough's involvement in the conspiracy, including without limitation as it relates to the communication with co-defendants John Eastman and Rudy Giuliani Regarding the attempt to disrupt and delay the January 6th joint session of Congress.
Yeah, that's part of the affidavit.
And look, read it, just read it, the plain words.
It says that he is going to testify against these people, against Rudy, against Sidney, against, you know, Ken, everybody.
And he is one of the main witnesses.
He's flipped.
Hello?
I mean, can people read English?
If he's flipping on these guys...
He's gonna flip on President Trump as well.
So, will it be?
My question is this, and picture this, okay?
It's the trial of the Georgia matter.
You got Boris Epstein sitting at the table with Donald Trump as his attorney.
And then Fannie Willis, or one of her attorneys, because I doubt that, you know, she can do it herself.
We call as a prosecution witness, Mr. Boris Epstein, and he gets up from sitting next to Donald Trump as his attorney, goes on the witness stand and starts ratting out his boss.
That seems like a lot of conflict of interest right there.
I think that should be enough self-criminal.
It's violative of, you know, what I understand to be the ethical procedures and the disciplinary rules in the state where he's licensed.
I think it's New York and New Jersey.
Hey, there is also a complaint against him with the Bar Association, as there was with Rudy and everybody else.
And get this, they're all filed at the same time by, I think, a company called The 65 Project or whatever.
It's like a Get Trump organization.
Everybody's complaints have been moved forward.
Boris's complaint, his bar complaint, it's stuck in the mud, not going anywhere.
What does that tell you?
All coincidences?
I mean, we hear stories like that all the time about like, you know, essentially the bar protecting corrupt judges, corrupt lawyers, unless it gets too noisy.
So you think that this is just another mouthpiece of the deep state that is actually protecting Boris Epstein through the bar?
I think that he's just got protection everywhere.
He's got protection in Arizona when he hits a guy in the face.
He's got protection in Arizona when he grabs a girl, allegedly.
He's got protection, you know, in Georgia from all these indictments.
He's got protection against Jack Smith.
From all the indictments, you know, what else?
He's got protection from these companies that he was supposedly the managing director of legal and business affairs that all went bankrupt where people are banned from FINRA. I mean, what's going on here?
Does anybody see a pattern besides me?
Like that he's basically untouchable?
Yeah, he's protected because they need him.
They need him to continue doing what he's supposed, I'm going to say allegedly, If you look at everything, you have to be able to discuss openly and honestly exactly what may be happening here.
You present the facts, much like a lot of people do out there, and you decide for yourself what's going on.
Because you know what?
It's obvious to a lot of people.
And now maybe if enough people talk about this, maybe President Trump will realize that he's got a major problem.
And you're saying that a lot of people within Donald Trump's organization, including lawyers present and former, feel the same way about this issue.
Absolutely.
Really.
Absolutely.
All right.
I'm going to keep reading this.
Boris Epstein, based on the information set forth above, is a necessary and material witness.
He possesses unique knowledge concerning communications between himself and Sidley Powell, as well as communications between himself and Kenneth Chesbrough and other known and unknown individuals involved in the multi-state Coordinated efforts to influence the result of the November 2020 election in Georgia and elsewhere.
Yeah, that's what it says.
So he is a prosecution witness against President Trump.
Anybody else read that besides you and me?
I don't know.
Wow, wow.
Alright, so moving on here.
Can we talk a little bit about this Todd Blanche Esquire situation?
Well, Todd was brought in by Boris and, you know, he represents Boris in all of these legal matters.
He also represents President Trump in a lot of these legal matters.
He's, you know, one of the counsel listed in all these cases.
So the question then becomes, Isn't that a conflict of interest?
You know?
I mean, look, Boris himself is probably in a conflicting state, having all of the, you know, being a witness and still representing Trump.
But, you know, Todd also representing him?
You know, I mean, I'm not the only one who's pointed this out.
There's a lot of articles about that.
So I think it's a problem.
And I think, you know, the 65's Project complaint against him being stalled and him continuing is just absolutely unbelievable that nobody's done anything about this and that he's allowed to continue even though there was a complaint against him with the Bar Association.
He's got the conflict of interest with himself and Todd Blanche is representing this guy and President Trump in the same proceeding when he's a witness against President Trump.
Look, I can't tell you how these rules go, but plain English is plain English and Todd should definitely step down and Boris should go somewhere else.
But it is absolutely horrible to read this stuff.
So talk about the district of hearing in Fulton County, Georgia, called two Trump allies to the witness for the prosecution.
Lynn Wood, one of Trump's former attorneys who has cut a deal and now is cooperating with the prosecution, and Boris.
Neither of these men have been indicted and both have spoken openly with the prosecutor.
They're both being treated identically, but only Wood has been exposed so far as cooperating.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
Come on.
I mean, that's...
That is what it is, you know?
Yeah, Lin Wood has signed and his public gun is cooperating and Boris is cooperating.
Is there anything we didn't touch upon in this episode that you'd want to mention?
I just think that there's so much here for people to go into.
You know, it really looks like...
Forget about everything else.
You know, forget about what he did with Russia.
Forget about, you know, all of the frauds that he was supposedly involved in.
These investment banks, you forget about him being arrested twice, you know, for assault and for groping.
You know, you can...
You can't forget about these indictments and these cases, and you can't forget about what Tim Parlator said, and you can't forget about everything else that's happened, and the fluff pieces that MSNBC does on him, and the release of information that CNN has before anybody else in MSNBC has, supposedly through Nicole Wallace.
This cannot be all coincidences.
And the fact that he is as obnoxious and a large oaf that he is, never had any, you know, trial experience that we can find doing anything like this.
And he expects all of these attorneys to take his advice.
Do you know how much of his advice has been, you know, detrimental to the president so far?
I mean, he's even, from what we've heard, he's even You know, Steve Bannon, who is his best buddy, you know, he supposedly was the guy who told Steve Bannon, hey, you know, don't go in front of Congress for that subpoena.
You know, it's okay.
Nothing will happen to you.
And look what's happened.
You know, not good advice, we don't think.
But just do your own research for yourself.
Look at this stuff.
And if President Trump is listening, I mean, look, I don't mean to be disrespectful.
I mean, this guy is going to bury you.
Michael Cohen.
You know, who flipped.
He had nothing.
You know, he looked like a fool and he just was making up stuff.
And I think that Michael Cohen just flipped because they threatened his wife.
That's what I think.
I don't think he wanted to flip.
But, you know, between President Trump and his wife, I think Michael chose his wife.
And I'm not saying anything about his character, good or bad, but Boris is just throwing.
Throwing President Trump under the bus here.
And it looks like it.
And that's our impression.
And we just hope that, you know, what we're doing here will maybe wake some people up to the facts.
Because, you know, we want to see President Trump save this country.
And we don't think that Boris Epstein has his best interests at heart.
Wow, wow.
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