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Feb. 3, 2024 - Blood Money
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Finding Enlightenment Despite the System with Brendon Jackson Jones
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I think that's enough of that.
I can't miss it.
But let's...
Let's just continue and think it through.
I think that's enough of that.
Brandon, you know, let's just dive right into it, man.
Could you tell us a little bit about yourself and your specialty and what you've been up to in this recent few months?
Thank you, Vim. I have watched some of your episodes and they are very well done and I'm looking forward to adding to the commentary on the subject.
My name is Brendan. As said before, I have been operating a business trust called the Masters Business Alliance Trust for almost five years now, offering general commercial services to the general public.
I began this journey when I was very young.
I initially wanted to learn how to become a judge.
I wanted to learn how to free my father who had been imprisoned.
About 15 years later, after I started the journey, I was able to accomplish that task that I set out for.
After that is when I made it my full-time commitment to bring people the solutions that I was able to find.
My trust offers a variety of services.
I started offering the public just general insight on how to navigate the court, and I then expanded into helping people with their consumer credit, with scaling their business, Now I offer a variety of administrative services for people, whether it be helping them file lawsuits, helping them respond to lawsuits, consulting with them on the general nature of the commercial system and how to navigate it.
I also offer people the opportunity to create a business and scale their business in a way that's a little bit different than what is taught in the general public.
I work all the way up to even In some cases, on the investment level, I can plug you into some of our network that specializes in utilizing this information on more of the private side.
That's been going on, like I said, for about five years now.
And we just recently here in December, we got three individuals out of jail for victimless crimes that there was no actual injured party.
And we are really happy to be expanding that service.
And we hope to continue to grow our trust.
We are a business alliance trust, so we invite other people who have skill sets that are conducive to just allowing people to live a free and peaceful life.
We invite them to To interact with us and to help people detach themselves from the matrix.
The matrix is not a bad thing in and of itself.
It's just like a video game.
But when you get your entire life and even your conceptualizations caught into it, and you can't escape from it, that's the problem that a lot of people run into.
Our general solution is just to help people create that level of separation.
You know it's funny because we've done a lot of blood money podcasts and what I find is that there's different people fighting for different kinds of freedom and different fighting against different forms of tyranny right and what I often find I mean it's the rule more than the exception is these individuals have all gone through something really traumatic in their life They lost something that, you know, whether it's their freedom or an individual.
And that's what started the pursuit for enlightenment for these individuals, right?
And what I hear in your story is that your dad was put in jail, sounds like for something that he shouldn't have been in jail for.
Sounds like you spent like 15 years trying to figure out how to get him out of jail.
Tell me a little bit about that journey.
Yes, that's actually how I became known in the space was by telling this testimony.
Essentially, my father, when I was in diapers, he worked for the General Service Administration.
He was a project manager.
He was actually building government buildings.
He actually had another job with the feds where he was doing covert operations.
I didn't know about this.
Because of that job that he had, they had him hooked on certain substances.
In order for him to perform.
Well, he ended up getting incarcerated when I was eight years old for forging a doctor's signature so that he could acquire more of these substances.
And, you know, nobody told him anything about it, from what I understand when I, you know, at that age.
Is that basically just the pharmacist just reported it to somebody and it just kind of went down the chain and they just picked him up and they tried him.
He was tried by the feds.
The feds found him guilty and they gave him a very hefty sentence.
And when that happened, I had the opportunity to see the judge leaving the court building.
And I asked him, you know, how do I get my father out of jail?
And when he looked at me and he said, if you want to get your father out, then you have to become a judge.
I think he knew about my father's work and I didn't.
So I started researching how to become a judge.
I had a little dial-up MyPeoplePC internet connection and I'm on the internet looking at how to become a judge.
The internet is telling me I have to become an attorney.
I started researching how to become an attorney.
It says that you need to read the Constitution.
You need to know the law.
I read the United States Constitution.
In my research, there was an old website which I don't believe is online any longer.
That talked about there being an old amendment, an old 13th amendment to the constitution which stated that attorneys cannot become elected officials.
And when I read that...
The Titles of Nobility Act, correct?
Yes. We've talked about that on our show because what we talk about on the show a lot is how really in America we don't really have a democracy.
We don't have a republic anymore.
We don't have a system that's frankly not corrupt.
And the reason why that is is because we have three branches of government that are supposed to check and balance the other branches of government.
And part of that is the legislature checking and balancing the judiciary.
But what's happened is the legislature is 75% bar agents, aka attorneys, aka former judges, right?
And then you have the judiciary, which is 100% bar agents, aka judges, aka attorneys.
So how could you have checks and balances when two branches of government are essentially more or less controlled by the bar?
That's the way I see it. Tell me if you think I'm crazy.
Well, it's absolutely correct.
When I read that, you know, and again, mind you, I'm eight years old at the time.
And so I approach my mother and I tell her, I said, well, you know, the judge said I have to be a judge if I want to get dad out.
It says here I need to be an attorney to do that, but then there's this law that they, I don't know if it exists or not, but it says that, you know, attorneys can't be elected.
So what am I supposed to do?
And my mother looked at me and she said, son, it's not illegal to lie.
And when she told me that, I kind of had a, that's kind of, for about an hour I just sat in my chair and kind of just stared at my keyboard and I was just kind of thinking about what she told me.
And as I got older, I started doing research about this topic.
And what you're saying is absolutely correct.
Essentially, what has happened, John Jay, the first Supreme Court Justice, wrote a whole dissertation on this about how the legislator created the Judiciary Act contrary to what the purpose of the Constitution was for.
And so they created an entire administrative court system, contrary to what the Constitution had stipulated.
And that has led to where we are today, where Essentially, no court, no state court or federal court is actually judicial pursuant to the Constitution.
It's actually administrative, meaning it derives its authority from statutes and what's called negative law or law that has not been positively enacted.
And all of the legislator, or most of them, Are all bar members or former attorneys or own a law firm.
Joe Biden's also an attorney.
So they basically have created their own commercial syndicate and they control the entire judiciary system.
And John Jay didn't live very long after he published that dissertation.
And so what you're saying is absolutely correct.
And we find ourselves in this conundrum.
Are you trying to insinuate that he was assassinated or murdered?
Well, I can't say for sure because we don't have any documentation on how he passed, but after he wrote that dissertation, there are no more substantial opinions that he wrote in regards to cases.
You'll see later on that the The original Supreme Court justices still asserted that what the legislator was doing was unlawful.
For example, creating a supposed license to practice law.
Has been well documented by the Supreme Court to be unconstitutional.
It says, you know, the Supreme Court has ruled that no state shall turn a liberty into a license and charge a fee thereof.
So, you know, this has been known as well as us offering an admiralty.
Could I ask a quick question?
So if the Supreme Court has said that, I mean, based upon that, can't you sue the bar and say you guys are basically a monopoly, you're charging a license to practice law, this is all unlawful.
I mean, can't a normal regular person do that?
They can, just the issue is that the only place you can sue them is in the venue that they created.
When you sue the government or when you sue the bar, for example, if you sue the government, you actually need permission from the government to sue the government.
And then when it comes to the bar, you're approaching an administrative body to make a determination on the legality or the lawfulness of the bar and its necessity for its use in the court system.
And because all the judges are bar members, you're really not going to get very far.
They do go after their own, so sometimes they go after each other.
One quick question, sorry to interrupt you, but a lot of questions are coming up.
I would love to dice them and slice them as we talk now.
All right. So you're saying that you can't do them, but can't you?
So if the judge is a bar member, isn't that a conflict of interest?
Can't you, by virtue of the fact that the judge is a bar member, say, look, that's a conflict of interest.
You all belong to the same monopoly.
Let me see your bar card. Let me see your bar card.
You know, lawyer on the other side.
Let me see your bar card. Judge, well, both of you guys are bar members.
This is a, you know, now we need a jury.
I mean, is there avenues you could take in order to, you know, get rid of essentially the decision making of what is obviously a corrupt individual that's working for the bar and not we the people?
Right, so technically what you're saying is all correct.
So lawfully speaking, everybody in the courtroom is an officer of the court.
Corpus Jurisicundum, Volume 7, Section 4, which is a law encyclopedia, states that an attorney or a bar member, their first obligation is to the bar.
Their second obligation is to the court.
The third obligation is to the state, and their last obligation is to the client.
So what you're saying is correct, but in terms of actually trying to exercise that and disqualify them, you could do that, but then they're just going to put another bar member on the bench.
So with MBAT, with Masters Business Elias Trust, we try to be as practical as we can.
So normally what we do is, if you're trying to negate a court action, The best thing to do is to look at the procedure and the technicalities and go based on that rather than going off the fundamental principles because if you've engaged with the court in some way,
you have already granted them jurisdiction and so trying to go back After you've done that is really just kind of causing more work for you in a practical sense.
What you're saying is factually correct, but practically, I have found that to be ineffective.
And the reason why is because when we look at the court, it's really important that we take away the personalities and we look at the positions of the court.
The judge is a position.
The clerk is a position.
The prosecutor in criminal court is a position.
We have to respect the seat, if you will.
It's not necessary to look at the character of the individual sitting in the seat, because that can change, right?
The person sitting on the bench, he's the captain.
The man or the woman sitting on that bench, they're the ones taking that position.
So it's really important when we interface with the court, if we want to get anywhere with it, that we respect the positions.
I really don't like the idea of going after the particular individuals because they want you to create a controversy.
They want you to be combative.
Because when you do that, they can label you as an enemy of the state or a combatant, and then they can treat the whole proceeding in a military capacity rather than in a civil capacity.
So that's my take on that.
What you're saying is factually correct, but effectively It's very challenging to try to challenge the legality of the bar members being in these court positions.
What about if you said, hey, I understand you guys are all bar members.
I believe that there's a conflict of interest, but I'm going to leave you guys alone on that.
But in order for this to be a completely unbiased situation, this warrants the call for a jury or even, let's take it a step further, what about a grand jury?
What about invoking grand jury?
I mean, does that change Right, so when it comes to a jury, in most administrative courts, the rule according to the Constitution is that you have the right to a jury of your peers.
But the definition of what your peers are has changed since the Constitution was ratified.
What a jury of your peers was meant to be was it was actually meant to be your peers, meaning the people you know personally were to stand and to judge the situation.
That was supposed to be how it worked because if they didn't, you know, they're supposed to know you, know your character, and have Have actually intimate, detailed knowledge about who you are.
Nowadays, what the definition of a jury of your peers is is that they're in the same economic class as you.
They have the same median income as you.
They have the same financial situation as you, and they live in the same town or city.
Which is contrary to what the intention of the Constitution was for.
One more question.
I'm going to keep raising my hand here.
Question about that.
Now, we've had a lot of people that have gone through what is called becoming a national, right?
Getting out of their contract.
With birth certificates, with passports, with I think it's like four different main notices that are sent to get out of those contracts and to basically declare that you're no longer a U.S. citizen, you're actually a national of a state.
Now, would the jury of your peers be Other nationals within your state since you are not a citizen.
And that's a hard distinction there where a citizen would be almost like, you know, getting people from a foreign country when you are not a citizen to come in and be your jury.
So don't you have a good argument there for getting a jury of your peers as being nationals?
Absolutely. Now, one thing to talk about when we talk about citizen is that actually the US citizen or any citizen in general in today's age is technically its own entity.
It's a transmitting utility.
So the citizen will always exist.
When they ask you if you're a citizen, they're really asking you, are you acting as a citizen or on behalf of a citizen?
Similar to if they ask me if I'm representing a company, they're asking me, like let's say for my trust, are you Masters Business Alliance Trust?
That's a question they might ask me in a civil court.
And the reason they're asking me that is they're asking me, are you acting as the entity or acting on behalf of the entity?
So there is no way to actually be a citizen physically.
I just want to make that very clear.
And then Second thing on what you said is yes, what you're saying is true.
They should have the same level of knowledge as you.
However, if you bring up that argument, the administrative officers have been trained to label you a sovereign citizen, which is labeled by the federal government as a terrorist organization.
So, these arguments, while they are valid, I generally tell people to avoid them because they are trained on how to respond to such arguments and such facts.
Wow, wow. So let me ask you this.
Now, in terms of the whole national thing, let's say, you know, you go in there as a national.
They say, oh, you're a sovereign citizen.
I say, well, you know, no, I'm not.
I don't even know what that means.
That term you just said makes zero sense.
Like saying that this is a hot cup of water, but it's cold.
You know what I mean? Or the sky is blue, but it's purple, you know?
Right. Make that argument where, wait a minute, you're calling me this term.
I don't agree with that term.
I'm definitely not that term.
Your term also makes no sense.
Oh, guess what? I have Black's Law Dictionary here.
Let's look up the definition of sovereign.
Let's look up the definition of citizen.
Wait a minute. What you guys said makes zero sense.
No, I'm not part of that because you're talking about something that physically cannot exist because it's an opposite of each other.
What happens then? Right.
One general rule whenever you're in court and the questions that you're asking, they generally pose, usually you're on the responding side, whether it be in civil or in criminal.
So I just want to make that clear that when I'm answering these questions is generally from a respondent point of view.
One more question there.
I apologize, just because you said that.
So could you give me the analysis based upon a respondent point of view?
But also, what if you're the plaintiff?
What if you're the one attacking?
What if you go in there and say, here, this is what I am.
No, I'm not a sovereign citizen.
This is really what I am.
And you fight them on that level.
Give me both analysis, please.
Right. So from a respondent point of view, you always want to make sure that if anybody in the courtroom is making a statement, that they have to back up a statement.
This is why they tell you everything you say can and will be used against you in court.
And so what that means is the more statements you make or the more matters or points of fact that you make, the more burden of proof that you create.
So when they ask you the question, for example, are you a sovereign citizen?
When they ask you questions like that, You don't have to say no because saying no is affirming that you know what that is and it's also you're creating a denial and now you have to prove why you're not and you can't prove a negative technically which is why they're so good at winning because they make you think that you have to prove that you're innocent or prove that you
didn't do something which is literally impossible.
So you always respond with a question, like, what is that?
You know, could you please clarify what you mean by that question?
You know, I don't know what that term means.
I don't understand.
That's very popular.
I don't understand.
It means I don't agree to what you're telling me.
So from a respondent point of view, you always want to come at it that way.
Any sort of question that they have for you that they want an answer, I always ask them to please give it to me in writing in the form of an interrogatory.
And I will happily write it out for you.
Because they'll try to make you answer on the fly and rush you.
So you don't ever want to do that.
You don't need to be in a rush.
Answer things on the fly or have things up on the top of your head.
They're trying to put you in survival mode and get you emotionally charged.
So you just have to avoid their general psychological tactics at all costs and always keep full composure and know that this is a word game that they're playing.
So from a respondent point of view, it's always the best to take it that way and make them prove everything they're saying and make them establish the record and not you.
Then from a plaintiff's perspective, when you are interfacing with the court, you're actually creating another commercial action.
You don't have to necessarily explain to the court or tell the court what your status is because most courts, and I say almost every single one that's available to the general public, Can only hear other commercial fictions.
They actually can't hear matters involving the common law or involving what we call physical beings.
You can only be heard as an esquire or as a representative of a commercial entity in most courts.
I'm not saying all of them.
There are some courts which You know, have some sort of common law authority or have some sort, they invoke equity in their proceedings.
But generally speaking, it's always admiralty.
So it's always administrative.
And so they can't actually hear matters involving a quote national.
You have to go to certain courts like the Court of Federal Claims.
For example, that as far as I know, the Court of Federal Claims is the only court which can hear matters involving equity and things outside of purely statutory matters.
And so when you're going into the court, you don't want to act smart.
You want to kind of act like you don't really know and you want to be very simple-minded and you want to be like, look, The formula is really simple.
There's a cause of action, and that cause of action leads to a claim.
The claim says that this event happened, and because it happened, I was injured.
And in order to fix the situation, this is what I am telling the court that I think should be done in order to fix the situation.
And then the court will decide whether your claim has merit and to grant you the remedy that they give you.
So that's always how you want to put it.
So if you're trying to say that I'm a national and I'm not bound by statute, the court can't help you because they are under statutory authority.
So you have to make sure that you're approaching someone who has the resources to actually help you with your claim.
Copy that. Interesting, interesting.
Okay. Sorry, Brandon.
Keep going, man. Tell us more about this process and some of the cases that you've worked on.
If you could give us tangible examples so people out there understand what is possible, especially with your guidance and your knowledge.
Absolutely. And just, you know, for the record, I do have a master course on litigation.
And so if people want to learn about all this, if you get in, you're in for life right now.
I'm doing this special until January 1st.
I'll extend it for all the people here because I know that this won't air until after January.
But Some of the cases that I've worked on, the first one being my father's case, I'll just give you guys an understanding on how commercial it really is.
The way that I got my father out was I did things in a two-pronged manner.
On the public side, I filed a motion to dismiss, saying that this was a commercial action, that he was being charged with a penal violation, which the word penal means financial penalty.
Penal sums apply to, for example, if I give you a debt note, like a promissory note or a bond, And the bond doesn't get paid on time, then I have to pay a penalty.
So this is translated into the criminal courts where you were bound to do some sort of commercial activity, whether it be payment or performance.
You didn't do those things and then now a penal sum is being assigned to your citizen or your entity or your SES2K trust, whatever you want to call it.
The court is trying to assess who's going to pay the debt.
The way that they do that is they have to create the debt first.
When they create the debt, they have to create a financial instrument that represents that debt.
In the court's case, they create bonds.
So they create a bid bond, they create performance bonds, they create surety bonds, and these bonds are then packaged into securities and they are sold on the secondary market.
For the state courts, they generally will sell them to the feds who will then, the feds will then We're going to sell them to big funds like Fidelity or PIMCO. When they do this, one thing that they don't do is they don't report the income taxes, which if you are an issuer of financial instruments, Then you have to file what's called an OID, Original Issue Discount.
You have to tell the IRS how much you sold that note for, essentially.
I'm really simplifying it, so I know some people watching this probably know a lot about the taxes, so don't take this all as one for one, but the general idea is that they have to report that income.
Because it is considered a security.
And so on the public side, I filed a motion to dismiss, putting the points as to why it should be dismissed.
But then on the private side, I wrote a very simple letter to the judge and to the clerk asking them to do the taxes on any of the financial instruments that were made in the name of my father.
And when I did that, that's what really caused the stir because, number one, they didn't know that I was going to do that.
You know, that was something that kind of had a surprise to me.
When the judge came out and had read the letter that I had...
I was actually very fortunate.
God was really on my side that day.
I gave the letter to one of the front desk clerks and the front desk clerk actually...
I just asked her to please give this to the judge.
And she looked at me a little confused, but then she's like, okay, no problem.
She just walked in the back and gave it to him.
And after he read it, he came back.
He came out of his chambers.
I was sitting in the courtroom.
He was red in the face, sweating.
He's like, who wrote this?
I will not allow violence in this courtroom.
I asked him what violence he was talking about.
He looked at me and he said, you can't represent your father.
You're not a licensed attorney.
I asked him the simple question.
Well, I've never seen an attorney's license before.
If you'll show me yours, I'll be able to figure out whether I'm licensed or not.
And then after I said that, I asked him if we were on a court of record.
After I asked him that question three times, he had the bailiffs drag me out of the courthouse, the entire court building, and then he brought my father in and released him in an hour.
So after that happened, I had a better understanding about how the court system really worked.
And ever since then, all the cases that I handle, I try to show either my clients or people who I'm guiding I try to show them as much as I can how to touch on that subject, but without trying to push it.
The one thing that you can't do is you can't be a combatant.
I'll go into this deeper as we go on, but essentially...
All I did was ask questions and make requests for them to do things.
I never actually said that this is wrong, this is fraud, this is this.
When you do that, that's what they want you to do because then they can say you're a conspiracy theorist, you're retaliating, you're doing this.
Or they'll say, I don't know what you're talking about.
But when you do it all in writing in private, and you're demonstrating through your demeanor that you know what you're talking about, that's what really gets them to respond.
And so I have found that for my, for example, I had a gentleman who he had a charge for possession of illicit substance.
And they wanted to give him a felony.
And so I had him do very similar to what I did, where I basically had him communicate to the judge and to the clerk on the private about the financial part, and then on the public part, just be like, hey, this case should be dismissed just because the court lacks jurisdiction.
And so on the public side, they usually will deny the motions.
But on the private side, they're really going to go ahead and get rid of you.
So they gave him a no contest judgment and gave him time served from the one day that he spent in jail.
And they let him go and said, alright, you're done.
You don't got to deal with this anymore.
And they're just basically saying, we don't want anything to do with you.
But they do that so that way they don't have to recall the bonds that they create.
And they can keep the bonds in that pool of securities that they made and allow it to go to maturity.
That's why they do things like that.
So I hope all that makes sense.
I know I said a lot of stuff very quickly.
That's very interesting.
Explain to me this part about do it in writing in private.
How do you go from private to public during what is really a public court hearing?
Right. If you look at the layout of a courtroom, inside of the courtroom, it's basically like a stage play.
You have the bench, which is just like the captain's chair.
And then right below the captain, you have the deputy captain, or the second in command, which is the clerk.
And then you have the esquires, or the other sailors, if you will, or the other members of the court.
You know, your district attorney in the criminal proceeding and you have the defense attorney there.
And I talk about this in my course that the courtroom process was set up initially by the Romans when they were conquering all these other foreign lands.
And they set it up in such a way because the people that they were dealing with didn't speak Latin.
And so they had to give them an attorney to basically translate for them and speak on their behalf.
And so all of that on the public side is basically just a big procedure show.
But then on the private side, the judge has his chambers connected to his courtroom.
So he can literally step off the bench and walk into a door that nobody else is allowed in.
That's his own private chambers.
You can have proceedings in chambers where he can invite you in and you guys can talk away from everybody else and that's essentially the private side of the court is his chambers where he'll invite the parties in and they'll have,
it's like mediation sort of, they'll have a private You can send written communications to the chambers where it's not on the public record.
You can do that.
You can also send it to the actual people who are sitting in that position in a personal capacity.
And that keeps it out of the public venue.
And so there's appropriate times to do that and to not do that.
For example, the financial information about the case is technically private.
The QCIP report, which is the report on the securitization of the case, is meant to be kept private.
It's not to be placed on the public record.
Uh, because you get into whole financial disclosures, um, that become a, you know, there's a whole problem there.
Um, you also get into really making the judge feel uneasy because he's getting paid on the back end by having these instruments, uh, basically pay out to him in his retirement accounts.
So all that stuff is, is not supposed to be disclosed.
Um, And so you want to make sure that you're kind of treading the line appropriately.
There's a really popular saying that private and public don't mix.
I personally don't agree with that axiom because I believe they mix all the time.
I think there's just a way to mix them.
The Citizen or the Sestake Trust is called a transmitting utility.
So it's literally transmitting private financial functions into a public venue.
So, you know, there's a right way to let somebody know without making it a show that you know what's going on.
You know, they even have like the Masons who run most of the courtrooms.
They have a manual on different hand signs and different ways to stand to communicate with each other.
So there are ways that you can actually carry yourself and stand to let the judge know that, hey, a fellow mason is in trouble or, you know, I'm aware of the Of the nature of these proceedings without actually having to tell him or without actually having to put anything on the record.
These are just some of the more nuances of court, the court psychology and the actual way that the courts function.
Knowing this, it puts you at ease knowing that it's all really a voluntary function.
You can let the process go along without your body or without your well-being or your prosperity being put on the line.
You can still satisfy the debt and do everything you need to do.
You do what's called invoking equity.
They're basically giving you an offer whenever they're suing you and you can actually accept the offer in return for an end or a settlement to the debt.
Rather than, you know, some sort of contest or some sort of dispute that I don't owe this debt or this debt's not real because there's a very strong axiom that says that the debt of the United States shall not be questioned.
And so when the court is hearing a matter on debt, which it always is, we are not to challenge that, but rather we are to present what's called a court in satisfaction to where we can go ahead and settle the debt without my body or my property or my money being used as the method of discharge.
Wow, wow. Very interesting, man.
Very interesting. So, okay, let me ask you this now.
In terms of people that don't understand this process, and I'm talking about people that are just getting started, what are the top things that you would advise them in terms of how to go through with this process and what to avoid?
Sure. Big disclaimer, I am not an attorney, so I cannot give any advice, but if I were in your position, the first thing that I would do if I was in your position, let's say for example that you're dealing with a traffic violation or a traffic ticket.
The first thing that I would do is I would consider what my situation is.
If I'm just like everybody else and I have a driver's license and my car is registered and I have insurance and I Basically, everything involving my vehicle is interconnected with the government, then the first thing that I would do is I would do what's called a plea and abatement, where you're asking questions about the nature and cause of the action rather than the actual charge itself.
And when you do that, you know, when you ask for example what the jurisdiction of the court is, you know, is this criminal or civil?
If it's criminal, is there a verified complaint?
Is there a sworn complaint on this?
Who's the injured party?
That's usually the best way to go about it.
You just don't want to be combative.
They're going to try to push you through the system.
They'll try to reschedule and do these things.
When you ask these kind of questions, If they're going to threaten you or force you, don't ever fight back.
You just say, okay, in threat, direction, coercion, I'll do it.
If you're being threatened, for example, the judge might say, if you don't enter a plea, I'm going to have you arrested.
Right? And so, you know, if you're like, okay, so you're threatening me for asking a question, you know, okay, if you're going to threaten me to arrest me, if I don't do this, then under threat, duress, and coercion, I will enter a plea and abatement, or I'll enter a plea of innocence or something.
You know, just, you want to, you don't want to, you want to go along with it, but always be putting on the record that, hey, Like, you know, I'm not going to let you threaten me.
You've got to kind of stand firm a little bit.
Like, what I'm doing is not unlawful.
What I'm doing is not illegal asking questions.
But, you know, you don't want to...
You, of course, want to keep your liberty.
So, you know, if it means that you need to, you know...
If he finds you guilty and says that you need to pay the fine, you can deal with everything afterward.
And you want to try to stay out of creating a combative situation as much as possible.
But if you're more advanced and you've learned more of this stuff and you have some experience, then a lot of times you can handle all these things purely by the mail.
And so you can literally send mail correspondences to the chambers About what you want done.
And I have seen cases get thrown out that way.
I have seen tickets get thrown out just by endorsing the ticket a certain way and attaching a cover letter.
Asking them certain questions and asking them to do certain things and then they usually just throw it out I've had many many clients actually have that happen to them when they invoke equity and they just said okay You're giving me a financial instrument, which is a lawsuit,
which is this this traffic ticket I'm gonna go ahead and endorse it for you and give it back to you so you can monetize it, but you're not gonna Don't be making me pay you so that you can go ahead and monetize the instrument.
This is the money that you need to go ahead and do what you need to do.
Please don't encroach upon my liberties.
And usually when you communicate that, the municipality is just trying to pump as many people and as many tickets as possible.
So they're really not going to try to deal with you.
And then when you get into the higher levels, Every case is very unique and it's very nuanced.
Obviously, like for a criminal, for example, if there's actually a victim, like if you actually did something or actually damaged somebody's property or stole from somebody or deprived someone of a liberty, Or, you know, caused harm to themselves or to their reputation or something.
If you actually did something, then, you know, that's a whole different thing than a majority of the crimes which are victimless crimes like possession and, you know, different things like this.
So, things with which it involves the state.
So, you know, my recommendation to anybody is, you know, I do have a...
My course that I teach, I do teach you how to win in court without a lawyer from the basic level.
All the way up to the higher level.
Really, you should just start where you are.
If you don't know anything about it and you're just getting into all this information, you should just learn what the court is from the public's perspective and just try to stand on the rights that you know that you have that are, for example, constitutionally protected.
You have a right to face your accuser.
You have the right to not be subject to unreasonable searches and seizures.
You have the right to remain silent.
You have the right to not incriminate yourself.
You have the right to certain freedoms and liberties that are protected The Constitution is a restraining order against the government, so it's to keep the government from encroaching upon these liberties which are granted to you by God.
And then once you understand that concept and you start to get into the more advanced level of the financial system and how it's all intertwined, You can invoke those aspects and invoke what's called exclusive equity to just keep yourself out of it in the first place.
But you want to gradually get to that point.
You can't just take the information and then try to apply it immediately if you haven't imbibed it because most of the people in court are Are masons and so they're masters of psychology and so if they know that you're just getting stuff off the internet and you don't really know what you're saying and you're just kind of reading a script, they're going to play on that and they're going to continue to push the process along to get their desired outcome.
Wow, wow. So, all right.
So, tell me a little bit about this, like, masons in the court.
I mean, what's that all about?
Is this kind of like a big conspiracy from the start, where they just made sure the masons controlled the court?
How did that happen, where these guys have essentially a secret society?
It seems like a secret society within a secret society, because you have the bar, which is an unlawful monopoly.
A lot of people call it a secret society, and then you have the masons, which is a secret society.
So, it seems like there's a lot of screwy things happening in our courts overall.
Yeah, I mean, essentially the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry has been very well established in the history of the United States.
I actually just read a federal lawsuit that involved people who were dark-skinned and people who were light-skinned that both had these fraternities and how they didn't used to interact with each other now that they are.
I forget what the dispute was about, but it's been very well ingrained in our culture because the majority of the Founding Fathers were members of Knights Templar, Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, and these organizations are not necessarily evil.
There's essentially people in the organizations that are using the information and their positions of power for their own benefit, and some of them work together, and so they create these These interconnected syndicates within these larger organizations.
And you're seeing that, you know, we could take Congress, for example.
You know, you have, like, the Republicans and the Democrats, and then within those two parties, you have, like, smaller camps.
You have the teacup Republicans, and, you know, you have the MAGA Republicans, for example.
In that same way, in the bar as well as in Freemasonry, you also have these groups within groups.
A lot of times, what ends up happening is that the prerogative is just to satisfy their own desires.
That's kind of where we get into the root of the problem of the commercial system in general.
is that generally the reason why everybody is having such a hard time in this commercial world is because they don't really have a true understanding of their spiritual nature and so they're always trying to satisfy things that pertain to the body and the outside world which is not a wrong thing but we have the misconception that I'm gonna find some sort of lasting satisfaction or relief In a world that is inherently changing,
ephemeral and temporary.
And the Masons have this knowledge.
They know about the spiritual nature to a degree.
And they play on people's general survival instincts.
And so you have to really be at peace with yourself.
And then you don't get caught up in these psychological games that they kind of pull you into.
They do it in all kinds of ways.
In criminal court, they threaten your liberty.
Family court, they create rumor and controversy amongst family.
Civil court, they threaten to take away your You know, these controversies play on the human psyche.
To go back to what your question was about these different societies, these different societies are essentially groups of mostly men, because they're mostly fraternities.
It's almost exclusively men.
Fraternities that have an understanding of the fundamental reality to some degree and they use that to obtain a certain prerogative.
So, you know, it's not all evil all the time.
Some of them do do philanthropic activity.
But in general, that's really their main prerogative and their belief is generally that the general public is unable to govern themselves or unable to, you know, do things according to natural law.
And so they set up the society to tailor the behavior towards, you know, a desired outcome.
Whether that's right or wrong, I can't really say.
But I do know for a fact that if you read some of the literature, for example, by Albert Pike of the Scottish Rite, he says exactly what the purpose of the organization is.
Wow, wow. Very powerful, man.
So, okay. So, before we go on to your background, because I find your background very fascinating, actually, because your path to enlightenment almost has like a Gandhi-esque, Jesus Christ element to it.
I mean, I hate to, you know, I'm a Christian.
I'm certainly not comparing to Jesus Christ, but, you know, these are individuals that actually made a huge effort to be enlightened.
We've had some unique individuals like that in our history, and you seem to have followed a similar path.
But before we get into that, is there anything about the topic of the process and cases that you want to talk about before we're on to your bio?
Sure. So, I mean, I think just to kind of sum everything up is that if I were to If you are watching this right now and you're intrigued by what I'm saying, then just take away this fundamental principle and your learning will be really easy.
Understand that everything that's happening in our day-to-day life is a function of the laws of nature.
And that in the United States, you know, I can't say in other countries, but for a fact, in the United States, the Bible is the book of the law, according to Congress's declaration.
And so if you want to understand the way that the United States' government structure, legal structure, is operating, then you need to read the Bible from that perspective.
You don't have to do anything, but if you want to understand it, really it's all biblical.
The book of Matthew and the book of Luke talk a lot about the law system.
We know that Jesus interacted with the attorneys and the debt collectors.
There's actually an interpretation that the Pharisees that are spoken of in the Bible are actually attorneys.
Because their whole Their whole business is soothsaying or basically saying half-truths to convince people to do certain things like give them money.
So if you have that understanding and you have control over your desires and you're not just always seeking sensual pleasures all the time, then this stuff will automatically become natural to you on how to understand it.
And so I've had countless In all kinds of different venues, federal, state, small claims, where the client was really on a spiritual journey and when they accepted where they were and that when they accepted whatever the outcome is going to be is really up to God, things started to change and what was meant to happen was satisfactory to all parties.
And it goes, you know, the famous verse in the Bible, agree with thine adversary quickly.
Everybody came to an agreement.
But when there's fear and there's, you know, a feeling of lack and feeling like things are going to get taken away from me, or that this is mine, it's supposed to be mine, this craving feeling is coming, then usually the end of the controversy or the claim ends in one party feeling deprived.
And, you know, there being some sort of feeling of disappointment or some sort of feeling of remorse.
And so we have to see all this as a spiritual experience.
And when you do that, the right outcome is going to happen.
And then we just have to try our best and then the rest is up to God.
Wow, man. Wow. Now that leads us perfectly into your path to enlightenment because everything you told me prior to this interview wasn't about like, hey, I'm pissed off.
My dad was put in jail for 15 years and anger, anger, anger.
None of that. You're not coming at this from an adversarial point of view.
The way the other Brandon says it is that you're actually going in there to help these people, to push the court, and you do it kindly.
You don't do it by acting like a jerk.
You're very gracious. You ask questions.
Seems like you guys have a very similar point of view.
Your point of view seems to stem more from this path to enlightenment, I guess, that you've been on.
So tell us a little bit about that journey of what got you here.
Sure. So just a very brief background of where I came from.
I grew up a Southern Baptist.
I was very thankful that I had a very wonderful mother and father.
My mother was my teacher.
I was schooled at home while my father worked.
And the Bible was a key part of our curriculum.
Every day, even before I entered into what would be considered traditional schooling, Every day we had a Bible lesson.
As I got older, I of course started to ask more questions about some of the things I was learning.
One of my favorite stories to tell was when I first read the story of Samson.
I didn't really understand what it meant.
As far as I understood, there was a man named Samson.
He was very strong and powerful and he had long hair.
He laid next to a woman.
The woman, when he fell asleep, cut his hair off, and then he became weak, and then the temple that he was living in collapsed in and killed him.
After I read that story, my mother wanted literally the next day after we had Sunday school, where that lesson was taught that day, I had a shaved head, so my mother wanted to shave my head.
I freaked out like, Mom, you didn't just come with me to Bible school yesterday?
You didn't just hear what the pastor said about what happened to Samson?
We're getting lucky here.
You know, and then same thing, I'm laying in the grass.
I had a habit of laying in the grass and looking at the sky and kind of just thinking about, you know, who am I? Why am I here?
What is, you know, I'm looking at the clouds.
Like, are the clouds moving?
Or is the earth moving underneath me?
Or is the sky moving?
Or am I just kind of making all this up in my head?
And then the neighborhood little girl would come and lay down next to me and ask me, what am I doing?
And I'd get up really fast in fear.
Get away from me.
You didn't just come to Bible school yesterday.
You didn't just hear about what happened to Samson when he laid with a woman.
I can't risk it.
These kind of stories and this understanding, I'm asking questions.
About their nature and I'm not really getting any satisfactory answers.
And so as I get older, I decide to explore some of the other interpretations of the Abrahamic tradition.
And so eventually when I get to university, I basically spend all my time in the library And in the library was when I started reading about some of the more esoteric elements of what we call religion today.
And I happened to stumble upon a book called Easy Journey to Other Planets, which explained in physics terms, which was the degree path I was taking at the time.
It explained in physics terms The nature of the soul and the nature of God and the relationship between soul and God.
And that particular man who taught that, he is from India.
And so I started studying the Indian culture, the Indian philosophy, and soon after, you know, I was able to encounter personalities that They were very gracious enough to explain to me in a way that I could understand what the truth of the reality is and I decided to follow their instructions and take it upon myself to try to not
understand God because we can never really understand Him but to reawaken my memory of my eternal relationship with Him And to separate myself with identifying with my body and everything around my body.
And once I did that, I was able to have a healthy relationship with the material world.
And my path in life just totally changed to basically just being as much of a benefactor and a help as I can to people and the capacity that I am able to do.
And at the same time learning how to control myself and learning how to control my own mind and my own actions.
So that way I am not causing any unnecessary violence or harm to anybody else.
And always invoking, you know, equity is just another word for karma.
So it just means as you sow, so shall you reap, just like what Christ taught.
That is equity. And so always invoking this spiritual principle in my life.
And that was about seven years ago.
And ever since then, my life has totally changed for the better.
I've never been happier and more at peace.
And I'm actually going to be launching a platform where I talk about all this spiritual information.
It'll all be free.
We'll only be accepting donations.
Just as I operate a business trust, I also operate a charitable trust.
And the goal of that trust is to propagate this knowledge practically so that other people can benefit.
For example, we're doing a fundraiser for establishing agriculture land and giving people work here in India, which I am speaking to you from India.
Our goal is to create employment and eventually to create civil colonies and eco-villages that people can come and live and live a natural, organic lifestyle and have some more time and some more space to actually try to inquire upon the soul nature that everybody has.
I will be diving into that more on that platform when I get there because there's a lot of things when you go into these spiritual topics that you want to be very careful with sharing because if we create an unintentional misunderstanding, it can lead people in the wrong direction.
Essentially, it doesn't matter if you're Christian, Buddhist, Muslim, whatever pathway that you have an identification with.
The thing that's really important is that you try to inquire on who I am and who is God and you follow the teachings of your spiritual master or your spiritual teacher to the T and you try to understand the spirit of those teachings and not allow somebody to create an interpretation of them to satisfy some sort of political, economic, or personal agenda.
Okay, that's super important.
So as long as you have that understanding Then you will be very well off.
After inquiry, I was around 19 years old.
I am now 27 years old.
From there to now, my life has totally changed for the better and now I just want to give people the same opportunity that I have.
The only reason I even do any of the business is for the spiritual purpose otherwise you know I could just live in a monastery or you know just live in an ashram and not have to do any of this but I want other people to have the same opportunity that I have and to you know be in the world but not of the world is what Christ said so whether I help them with their Their financial situation or I'm helping them with court or I'm helping them with, you know, just things that they need help with.
If I can free up their time and free up their energy so that they can focus more on their internal happiness and on their, you know, developing positivity and understanding their soul nature, then I consider that mission accomplished.
Wow, wow. I mean, you sound like you're a Christian.
I essentially am because a Christian is somebody who follows Christ's teachings.
You know, if you don't follow Christ's teachings, it doesn't matter how much you go to church or whatever, how much of the Bible you read.
You know, that's what a Christian is.
And he had two main instructions.
He said, you know, love God with all your heart, soul, and all your strength, and love thy neighbor as thyself.
Right? So those are the two main things.
And so in all the other Teachings that he had were to supplement those two essential commandments.
And so, how do you do that?
Love isn't an emotion.
Love is your behavior.
Love is what you do.
I can't love, for example, the way that people think.
I can't love an object.
I can't love this phone.
But I can love a person.
God is a person.
He's not just an idea or a ball of light.
He's also not some old man with a big white beard sitting on a cloud in the sky arbitrarily judging your actions and arbitrarily assigning people, some people getting a good life and some people getting a tough life.
That's not the reality.
He's actually totally merciful.
He's a total benefactor to us.
He doesn't even do any punishment.
The laws of nature punish.
We actually punish ourselves through our own actions.
Just like what Christ says, the kingdom of heaven is within you, that also means that hell is within you also.
So, it's just a matter of where you place yourself and how you get there, rather than you physically going to some heavenly or hellish location.
Wow. I mean, what have you learned in your path to enlightenment in terms of the nature of God?
I mean, how would you explain the nature of God to people that don't understand?
Right, so rather than me trying to explain it, it's been explained very well in a scripture in the Sanskrit language, it's called the Srimad Bhagavatam.
And the Srimad Bhagavatam is literally a 12-canto poem That describes the activities of God, His nature, and His devotees, the people who have dedicated their lives to serving and growing closer to Him.
The book describes in great detail from beginning to end The glories of God, His nature, His activities, and how to live a life to where you're always conscientious of Him.
That's really the goal of all of it.
They tell you in the scripture that God is Omnipresent.
All the omnis that you know already.
Omnipotent. And then he also has a form.
He actually has a personality.
And that form is very articulately described.
It's very sweet.
The form is very enjoyable.
The word that they use in Sanskrit is called Bhagavan.
And that means the Supreme Personality.
And the name that's known in Bhagavad Gita, he's known as Krishna.
Krishna means all-attractive.
It's where the word Christ comes from.
So, you know, if you dissect Christ's teachings, he says, I am the way, the truth, and the light.
No one goes to the Father except through me.
And Krishna says in Bhagavad Gita, I am the seed-bearing father of every living entity.
So there is no contradiction between Christ's teachings and the teachings that are taught here in the Vedic tradition here in India.
They're actually one and the same.
Christ is saying that you can't get to God without a spiritual master.
And Krishna says the same thing in Bhagavad Gita.
If you want to understand the reality, you submit to the spiritual master, inquire to him, and do his service.
And then you will become, you will reach the path of enlightenment.
And so, and Christ served as that spiritual master for so many people in that very dark age.
And so, and he continues to do so.
And so if you follow his teachings, if you follow the teachings of the spiritual master, he will lead you to God.
And that is a fact.
Wow, wow. You know, it's funny because I took, I was big time into religions when I was studying in college and I took a lot of history of religion classes, beginner, intermediary, and beyond.
And what I kind of, the conclusion I came to is that all these religions stem from the same seed.
And really, and you tell me your opinion about this or your thoughts on it, it all stems from the same seed.
It seems to be the corruption of men in causing division that, you know, there is this division.
But when I read, you know, whether it's, you know, Islam, whether it's Judaism, whether it's Christianity, whether it's Buddhism, Hinduism, I mean, it seems as though we're talking a lot about the similar principles.
How would you comment upon that?
Yeah, that's a fact. The word religion is, you know, the English language is set up that it's always telling a half-truth.
The word religion comes from Latin.
It means re-legioning.
So it means to reorganize what was once already organized, right?
So religion is the interpretation of the same spiritual truth that has existed in Eternally.
So what it tells us in the Vedas is that the spiritual truth, which is called satyam param dhimahi, this spiritual truth, which is eternal and always existing, this truth has manifested at the beginning of the creation.
And it stays in existence even after the creation is finished.
And so what has happened is that it has been passed down generation to generation.
And then over time the teachings get lost.
Krishna actually says this to Arjuna in the Bhagavad Gita.
He says, I once told this knowledge already to Vivaswan millions of years ago.
And it has since been lost in the decay of time.
I am now repeating it to you because you are my dear friend and you are not envious of me and because you have surrendered to me unconditionally.
I am sharing this most sacred and confidential knowledge with you.
And so, you know, even after that happened, which was over 5,000 years ago, we're in an age of what's called Kali Yuga.
We're in an age where it's generally degraded.
Our memories are short.
We're weak. Our lifespan is very short.
If you read the Bible, you'll see that people lived up to 1,000 years.
That was in the previous age in Dvapara Yuga.
Now in Kali Yuga, people live maybe 100 years.
Now, usually closer to 60, 70.
So, in this age, we have become forgetful, and we just generally don't have a tendency towards spiritual life.
We very much have a tendency to materialistic gratification.
And so, because of that, the spiritual teachings had to be modified so that they could be accepted in society.
In Islam, for example, where Muhammad was preaching, Most of the places that the people were living in the Arab world didn't really have much access to agriculture.
Yeah, so in the in the Vedic cultures understood that vegetarianism It was a staple part of spiritual advancement.
It was a requirement. But in the Arab world, it's really not possible because if you've ever been to Dubai or other parts of the Middle East, it's mostly a desert.
And so there had to be some sort of concession to being allowed to eat animals and how that was to be done.
So they had strict protocol on how to do that.
That's essentially what religion has turned into.
It's basically just turned into a more, I'm not going to say dumbed down, but maybe a more softened and a more A culturally appropriated version of accepted eternal spiritual principles.
So one of the things I've noticed is that this specific question I'm actually asking for a friend, right?
And this friend, I think, is going through similar things that a lot of people are going through.
I think there's, you know, definitely a crisis of masculinity out there right now because, you know, we've We've done a lot of things that I don't know if necessarily follows like God's law, the laws of nature.
Definitely, you know, this idea of toxic masculinity and third wave feminism, clashing of both, have really created a bit of a mess in this country, especially in the West.
I mean, this is something that we hear all the time.
I mean, what do you tell the people that are lost and confused in this era and are having a difficult time finding themselves, finding the peace within themselves and getting closer to God?
Well, that's a wonderful question.
You know, some similar questions were posed by great personalities in the scripture.
And whenever those questions were posed, the first thing that they would say is, oh, great person, oh, great personality.
This question is the best question because it benefits every living being, not even just the humans.
So this is a great, great question.
First of all, I want to say that it is an extremely rare thing to receive the human form of life.
The Vedic philosophy teaches us that we don't just live one time.
We continuously live and we take on different forms depending on our actions.
And so you had to do some really what are considered benevolent things in order to achieve the human form of life because the human form of life is considered to be the highest form.
It's considered to be the God form.
You know, the Bible says that, you know, we are made in His image.
So if we're made in His image, that means If we look like this, God also looks like this in a similar way.
First of all, we have to have that understanding that I am actually literally made in the image of God.
What does that mean? That means that the human form of life has a special function.
It's not meant to just do sensory activities.
Like animals, they're only concerned about eating, sleeping, mating, and defending.
These are the only things that they concern themselves with.
That's their nature.
They're allowed to do that.
They were created for that function.
But human beings were not designed to only live an animal life.
We were designed to have a higher calling.
We were designed to our brains and the way that our psychosomatic metaphysical being is constructed was designed to dive into the Non-physical part of life into inquiry, into understanding who I am.
You know, what is my purpose here?
What am I doing? And, you know, who is God?
Does God exist? Etc.
So, you know, the first step for anybody if they're feeling unhappy, first of all, stop.
Just stop for a second whatever it is that you're doing.
Just stop. Realize that you're on a hamster wheel right now and you are under the impression that if I change my material circumstance, whether it's make more money, whether it's get a partner,
like you said, or whether it's have a certain social status, have a family, if it's have my body be a certain way, Whatever it is, I am under this impression that if I change these ephemeral circumstances that I'm going to achieve some sort of lasting happiness or peace.
However, this is the big illusion.
The illusion is that this reality is inherently totally real.
It's not fake.
It exists.
But it's changing.
And it's ephemeral. So that means It's just a bunch of atoms that are changing different energy states.
From the very hard definition of real, it's not real in that sense.
Real means something that doesn't change.
The only thing that's real is our soul and God.
What they call the Higgs bosons are all the God particles that make up the antimaterial world or the spiritual world.
So the way to achieve lasting happiness ultimately is to come to the realization and the complete cognition of this spiritual reality and in contrast to the material reality.
The material reality is just a shadow of the spiritual world.
And so it's not a physical place to go or travel to.
It actually exists within us.
So if you want to achieve lasting happiness, that's only found within.
That's the only place you become what's called Atmarama, self-satisfied.
So, try to become self-satisfied and try not to find happiness in other things, in other situations, or in other people.
Because you can't.
Like, you know, for example, I just bought this new computer.
I can't take a straw and suck the happiness out of it.
Happiness is coming because I am doing some sort of work with it and I am I am becoming self-satisfied because I am fulfilling a duty that I have been assigned.
We have a destiny. We have things that have been set out for us already to happen.
It's just a matter of how quickly we want to get there.
So you can either crawl, you can walk, you can run, you can take a car, you can take a plane.
You can decide how fast you want to get to the destination, but you're going to get there no matter what.
You know, you're going to get there.
Just some people, you might take a detour.
Some people go backwards for a little while.
You can't really truly go backwards, but you can detour and kind of veer off into something else, thinking that, oh, you know, you're like in a video game, you can do side quests.
But, you know, you won't win the game or you won't accomplish the task until you finish the main quest.
And so the main quest is to remember that you are soul and that you have an eternal, unending, unique, and joyful relationship with God.
And that once you have that cognition, once you've achieved The I know, then you no longer are pursuing any other material things.
You might still be in the world doing things, but now you're no longer craving or grasping at the material world to satisfy you.
You're now self-satisfied.
Now the next stage is to help your brother and sister achieve that same state.
That's beautiful, my brother.
That is actually very beautiful.
Is there any final things you want to say in closing before we wrap up this awesome episode of Blood Money?
Yeah, I really want to thank you for having me on your show.
I rarely get on shows like this, but I'm always happy to be given the opportunity to speak my story and to share with other people How they can achieve what I have achieved, which I don't like to brag about what I've done materially, because really, if it wasn't for God, none of this would happen.
But because I had that faith, things always worked out better than how I thought they were going to work out.
In the moment, maybe I'd be a little stressed or be some doubt.
I didn't know it would go on.
Things always ended up being the best thing possible for me.
So for anybody watching this, you know, whatever situation you're in, just know that it's the best possible thing for you and that if you are trying to walk with God during this, then you will have the same understanding that I have.
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