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Jan. 23, 2024 - Blood Money
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Id Rather Be DJing and Stand up Comedy, But... with Clay Clark
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Alright, so welcome to the latest Blood Money episode.
Today we have a very special guest, Clay Clark, who's been on our show before with a gentleman next to him named James Aida.
How are you guys doing? I am doing very well, and I can tell you this.
James is a member of the team here, so he better be doing well.
Because he works non-stop behind the scenes helping people get tickets for the Reawaken America Tour.
And so he is a big heart, a big part of the Reawaken Tour behind the scenes.
So hopefully you're doing well, James.
I'm doing great. Awesome, awesome.
So Clay, you know, I wanted to do this episode because I want to do things a little bit differently.
Most of the time we're getting on these podcasts and we're talking about all the horrible things that the globalists are trying to do to our world and how to stop them, how to be conscious of But this time, I want to talk a little bit about my experience at your business conference, which I found that, you know, frankly, I told this to some of your friends there.
I mean, you have like top 10 comedy skills.
I don't know if you're aware of this.
Like, you made me laugh like I've never laughed.
I certainly wasn't expecting to laugh that much at a business conference.
That's what I would prefer to be doing, by the way, is doing comedy and DJing.
I would prefer to do that with my time and energy, but it's not in the cards for me right now.
Let me ask you about the DJing thing, because I used to be a DJ. Basically, what I heard from you is that most things make you miserable, which I agree with.
Most things in the world make me miserable.
I don't like going to public places.
I love working and that sort of thing.
But DJing seems to be something that you really enjoy.
Let's talk about that. Okay, let's get into this real quick here.
Things that make me miserable versus things I enjoy.
Okay, so I believe that the world, if you read the Bible, the Bible instructs us as men...
We're supposed to work six days a week and rest on the seventh.
You're going to find that in the book of Luke.
You're going to find that in Genesis and Exodus.
God is all about work six days and rest on the seventh.
That's the mindset I have.
James, you like to work as well.
I do. So I don't like the other day after work, I said, let's go chop wood.
Did I not do that? We did do that.
And I like chopping wood.
I like hauling wood. I like chopping wood.
I like working. I like it.
I like it. But many people in our world prefer to do nothing.
So people all the time around me are always like, well, you know, you should go on vacation.
I don't want to go on vacation.
Well, you should go on vacation.
You work so hard. I like to get up at 3 and work until 6 every single day.
That's what I want to do.
That's what I like to do.
And our culture, well, shouldn't you spend more time with family?
I don't want to spend more time with family.
I like to work from 3 a.m.
to 6 p.m., six days a week.
I love to spend time with my family every night.
I love to spend time with them on the weekends.
It's like after work today, I'll take my son out for some seafood.
I'll enjoy that. I'll have a good time.
But I... I find myself as a guy who likes to work six days a week in a world where most people like to work three days a week.
I'm a guy who deals with people directly in a world where everybody's passive aggressive.
I find myself liking pretty much only meat in a world where people shun you for liking meat.
I find myself being unapologetically Christian or pro-constitution in a world where people apologize for America all the time.
So these are just the sort of mindsets that I have.
That don't conform very well to the world that we live in today.
And so I would just say that I have a lot of joy and happiness doing the things that I like to do during the day, which is working and solving problems.
But when you go to like Disney World, I don't know what to do there.
Hotels, Disney World, movies, professional sports, I don't quite understand what people are doing.
Tell me the top five things that make you utterly miserable.
I mean, camping, I agree with you, is one of them.
You had mentioned, I don't know why the hell people go and sleep with the bugs and all that, but tell me the five things that most people might say are enjoyable that you actually find quite miserable.
You see? Disney just makes me miserable.
Just in general, like the word...
I don't know if it's the pronunciation, if it's the fact that you're going to the surface of the sun, if it's the idea that it's swampy, if it's the idea that 90% of the employees are unapologetically gay or transgendered.
I don't know if it's the fact that you can't find somebody from America who's traveling there.
I don't know if it's the $27 cost of every food item.
I'm not sure what about Disney makes me the most miserable, but I would say...
Disney, categorically, as a physical amusement park location, is probably a thing that makes me the least happy.
James, have you been to Disney World? Unfortunately, man, I have.
Did you like it? No, I didn't like it.
Everyone there. No one's American.
Everyone's gay. It's just not a good time.
All right, so Disney World is item number one that I do not like.
Give me two out of five.
Okay, well, weak men.
Number two, just weak men.
Men that will say things like, brother, I absolutely want to call you.
Men that will say this to me, I mean, as recently as today, they'll say, I want to go out with you to grab some food today.
I've got to check with my wife.
I don't know.
She's upset right now.
I just don't know.
They live in suspended fear of their wives.
Men that are constantly living in fear of their wives, wondering what their wife will say.
The kind of guy that can't say yes or no without his wife's approval.
The kind of guy that begs his wife for a small sliver of the house to decorate.
Please let me decorate something.
The kind of man who is Wearing a matching sweatshirt with his wife at all times so that they can fit in together for the annual family photo.
The kind of man who is a fabulously festive cheer dad, whatever the hell that means.
The kind of man that dresses in a metrosexual way to appease his significant other.
That whole weak man thing really bothers me.
Do you think, I mean, let's talk a little bit about that.
The weak man thing. How come now we're seeing so much of that?
I mean, a generation or two before, you didn't see that sort of thing.
But right now, it seems to be an epidemic, more or less.
Have you read 1 Timothy chapter 2?
I have, but please refresh my memory.
I'm not trying to beat everybody over the head with things that the Bible says that are going to irritate you today, but it says here in the Bible.
I didn't write the Bible. James, why don't you read the Bible, 1 Timothy 2?
That way it's your fault, okay?
You read it, and you go ahead and just start off here in 1 Timothy 2, verse 9.
Go for it.
In like manner also that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shame, facelessness, and sobriety, not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array, but which becometh women professing godliness with good works.
Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection, but I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence, for Adam was first formed, then Eve, was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Notwithstanding, she shall be saved in childbearing if they continue in faith and charity and holiness and sobriety.
All I'm saying is the Bible is very clear that men are supposed to love their wife the way that Christ loved the church.
And women are supposed to submit to the men who love Christ and follow Christ.
So the way the org chart is supposed to work is I'm supposed to work as unto the Lord.
I'm supposed to serve Christ.
And then you're supposed to have an org chart where it's God.
Man, wife.
That's how it's supposed to work.
But I see so many men who are just controlled by their wife.
They're dominated by their wife.
Their wife beats them up all day.
You know the movie King or the TV show, what, King of Queens or something?
Where you have the dunce husband and his snappy, smart-witted wife beats him up verbally.
That's the sort of mindset that most men now find is pervasive.
Happy wife! Happy wife!
I hate my life!
What? I see it all the time.
You know, okay, two things.
One, what you were just describing from the Bible, I mean, that is the opposite of what our music, our pop culture has been in terms of the bling-bling, the gold, you know, the kind of airs that people put on with their jewelry and all that.
Was that one of the reasons that you stopped DJing?
Well, I was very good at it.
We were doing about 4,000 events a year, and I found that I was working seven days a week, and I had a lot of dramatic situations that would occur with my disc jockeys, because we had 80 disc jockeys that were out DJing, and there were just a lot of issues that occurred, because you're doing live events.
And so I found there's much more...
Scalable ways to make good money than to disc jockey.
You know, I love DJing, but other people kind of would crumble under the pressure.
So let me just give you some examples. James, if you were a DJ for me, I know you're not, but if you were, and if a show started at 8...
On the schedule of events, I made sure you were set up by 6 p.m.
If the show was at 8, you had to set up at 6.
If you were working for me, why would I do that?
To make sure that they're there ready.
Okay. And then why would I require you to bring a backup amplifier, backup speakers, backup microphone, backup of everything?
Because something's going to break.
Right. So that sort of mindset, though, you scale that out times 80 times.
Think about it. 80 weddings.
So it's a highly stressful way to make a lot of money.
So I found that other industries I'm involved in now, I can make a lot more money with less scalable stress.
So now when you go to Elephant in the Room, my haircut chain, I mean, if you go to the haircut chain, you get a haircut, you get your haircut, and it's profitable.
And if you're not happy, we can...
Give you a refund or something.
But whereas a wedding, it's hard to redo that.
You know, with the dog training business I started back in the day, I basically teamed up with a couple that had a dog training business, and I helped them to start the franchise and helped them to grow that.
And, you know, training a dog, I mean, it's a thing where if you...
If you're out there today and you go to MakeYourDogEpic.com, you can learn more about what I'm doing in the dog training space right now.
MakeYourDogEpic.com. But, you know, people, they have a dog.
They want to get their dog trained. It's not very dramatic.
You can do that. We have an affordable pricing option for people.
In the precious metals space, I'm involved in that space.
Again, these are all things that I perceive to be a lot less dramatic than the disc jockey business.
You know, somebody that was listening to what you're saying in terms of, you know, what the Bible says, right?
Do you think that you have a wife that's, you know, kind of silent, doesn't talk much?
I mean, I'm just saying in terms of the stereotyping of it all, right?
But that's not really what I witnessed.
What I witnessed at your business conference, you had your wife up there.
There's an amazing level of chemistry between the two.
She was talking about her experience about building businesses, DJing, and all that.
Tell me a little bit about that, the chemistry that you and your wife have and how you guys kind of go.
We have lanes there.
James, did you ever play sports?
Yes, I played hockey.
Hockey, okay. So there's a line change, right?
There's lines. Right. How many people are on a line in hockey?
Five. Okay, so like when there's a puck stoppage or some kind of game stoppage, five other guys go on the ice?
Yes, sir. Okay. And there's one guy who's playing a goalie?
Right. Right? There's one goalie.
And then what are the other positions on the hockey team?
You got the center, the right wing, the left wing, and the two defense guys.
Okay, but if everyone's trying to play goalie, isn't that weird?
Yeah, that wouldn't work. Okay, so I'm just telling you, if you've got a farm out there, for anybody out there who gets a farm, if you get a bunch of chickens, if you have too many roosters, it becomes a weird-ass farm, okay?
So it's really important that if you're a man out there, if you're a man, you're a rooster, you're not married to a rooster, okay?
And that goes back to the whole...
Don't marry a dude thing if you're a dude.
But anyway, what happens is a lot of men, men don't sit down with their wife to figure out their lanes.
So my lanes are like this today.
I got here, I woke up today to work at 3 a.m., and I'm going to work until 6.
That's what I do, 3 to 6.
Okay? So, my wife is raising our kids.
She's, I don't know what she's doing.
I think she was having coffee with my daughter.
I checked in with her just to say, how you doing?
You doing good today? And I like to check in with her, you know, that kind of thing, just how you doing?
And she was taking my oldest daughter out for coffee.
And I think that was like at 11 o'clock.
So, amen! And That's so great for her.
Isn't it great that she can be taking my daughter out for coffee during the middle of the day talking about who knows what?
Isn't that great she can do that?
And I'm not chasing her around all the time wondering where she is at all times.
I'm not helicopter husband.
I'm not putting an app on her phone where I know where she is at all times.
And isn't that great that she can be doing that and she can go buy that coffee and she doesn't have to worry about whether I'm slacking off or I'm making money or not.
So we have lanes that we've agreed on.
And so I have my lane, and she has hers, you know?
So yesterday, I finished the workday.
I think we finished yesterday around 6, 545, 6-ish.
Around there, yeah. Yeah, I left around 6.
I left around 7. Okay.
I think I left at 6, though.
Right. Okay. And then so I went and got my hair cut, you know?
And then I came home, and my wife was there.
And it wasn't like a dramatic thing.
She wasn't like, where are you? Where are you?
You know, and I'm not calling her, what are you doing right now?
You know, we're also not one of those weird couples where it's like, Babe, what are you wearing?
I don't know. What are you wearing?
Are you okay? You know these men who whisper when they talk to their wife because they live in terror?
Have you seen this? Yeah.
Have you seen this? It's so bad.
Hey, babe, are you okay?
Yeah, no. No, I wasn't raising my voice.
No, no, no. Babe, I wasn't yelling at you, baby.
Come on. I just can't handle that jackassery.
We each have our own lane.
She knows what she's doing.
I know what I'm doing. That's what we're doing.
And there's things that she does that I have no interest in, like cheerleading.
I have no interest in cheerleading.
So my wife participates a lot as a mom or a sponsor or a coach or whatever that thing.
And I just have no interest in cheerleading at all.
It's not possible for me to care less about anything than cheerleading.
Because I care not about it.
And it doesn't hurt her feelings.
And, you know, I do the reawakened tour.
I do deep dives into bricks and RNA modifying nanotechnology and entire podcasts on how to increase your conversion rate on your website, how to, you know, optimize or monetize your small business.
And I don't think she ever listens to my shows.
Do you know why I know this? I'll do shows.
I'll do them. I did a show the other day that was hot, hot.
And everybody had watched this show.
It was General Flynn and Alex Jones and I. And everybody had seen it.
Everybody. Everybody had seen it.
Everybody. People were texting me like, dude, that show was hot.
That show was hot. By the way, General Flynn was on point.
Alex Jones was awesome.
And my job was just to share facts.
And I get home, and my incredible wife, did she say, your show was hot?
No. Did my wife comment on the show?
No. You know why, James? She didn't watch it.
Because she didn't watch the show!
Oh, man. Am I going to make her watch my show?
No. You know who my wife listens to?
She listens to Dan Bongino.
So, Ava, great job, Dan Bongino.
But my wife doesn't listen to my show.
Does it piss me off? Does it bother me?
Also, I started the church during the lockdowns.
It's on Thursday nights, okay?
During the lockdowns, a lot of churches were closed.
So I called Pastor Leon Benjamin.
I said, hey, could you come to Tulsa every Thursday?
And guess who never comes?
My wife. You know why?
Because she doesn't want to be there on Thursdays.
My wife shows up on Sundays, but she doesn't want to be a part of my Thursday church.
And I'm not mad about it. It's just how it is.
You know? My wife wants to add stuff that makes...
It's called Stevia.
She wants to add that crap to everything.
You could be having chicken. She's like, why don't you lather some stevia on there?
No. You could be having any beverage at all.
Let's put some stevia in there. No, I don't want stevia up in that thing.
She wants to put stevia on everything.
She's all about coconut oil and stevia.
But I don't like it.
And so she doesn't sit there and shove it in my face.
And I'm not running around mad at her that she, you know, likes Stevia.
I'm just saying, I see these couples that like lose their personality and they become the same person.
And they're like, we really enjoyed the notebook.
What? You both really simultaneously enjoyed it?
Either he's gay or you're lying.
Somebody's bogus here.
There's no way that we like the notebook.
Let's try that again.
You're speaking directly to God here, sir.
God is watching. Did you like The Notebook?
No, I hated The Notebook.
You hated The Notebook?
I thought we liked The Notebook.
I mean, you see couples that do that?
Yeah, yeah. So what movie do we want to see?
Oh, we want to go see a...
We love that movie.
We love Chip and Joanna.
We love Chip and Joanna.
We both of us love it.
We both have exactly the same amount of estrogen, which is all of it.
Unbelievable. It's so gay, the culture that has been created now.
It's so weak. It's like the blending of the genders.
The couples that I like to hang out with, and there's not a lot of them, it's where the man is a man and the woman is the woman.
A buddy of mine, this is a true story, one of my good friends, I won't mention his name because he doesn't want to be famous, but a friend of mine, he says to me, hey, You guys want to go out to dinner?
I said, sure, let's do it, bro. We show up at his house, and I got there just a little bit early.
And you could hear in the background, she's like, would you please put on a nice shirt?
And you could hear her through the door.
And he's like, why do I always have to put on a nice shirt?
She's like, you can keep your crappy jeans on.
Just please put on a nice shirt to go out to dinner.
That's the kind of couples that I like.
And my buddy, we go out to dinner, and he says, you notice this?
I did this for her.
I have a good shirt. I put it on.
I like the kind of guy that has a good shirt and who regretfully wears the good shirt to go out to dinner.
That's my kind of man.
Because this guy is straight alpha all the time.
And his wife, she'll dress up and she's super excited to go out to dinner and she's a sharp dresser and she's a great mom and she's 100% feminine all the time.
And then during the dinner, the two conversations, they fork.
The women, they start to hold hands.
And then the pitch immediately gets higher and higher and higher.
It travels to a different frequency that only women can hear.
Have you seen that? Oh my gosh, it's so good to see you.
Where'd you get those earrings?
I don't know. Where'd you get your hands?
Pretty soon it's... And then he and I are down here going...
Dude, do you want to get some calamari?
Yeah. Okay, cool.
But meanwhile, we're in a different frequency.
I'm like, hey, so we're talking like, bro town, how was work?
He's like, oh man, we're trying to get a new fleet of mowers right now.
I think I can make it more efficient.
We got this new kind of mower that just came out.
If I get this, we can do this.
We can do that. I had to fire a guy.
We're talking at this level over here.
We're two business owners. We're talking, and he's talking at this tone down here.
Meanwhile, the women are, and then the waitress comes by and, you know, do you guys want, Appetizers.
And the women were able to somehow communicate what they wanted at a frequency that he and I didn't understand.
It's incredible. Men are women.
Men are men. Women are women.
I like those two worlds where women can be women, men can be men.
My friend and I, we're not sitting around decorating our home for the 47th time trying to figure out new ways to define the color tan.
The word doe skin is not a word we ever use.
That's doe skin colored paint, Carl.
No, we don't use those words.
I just like men that are men, women that are women.
That's what I'm into. Let's talk about the music video you made.
That music video that you showed, I guess you're a young man.
You want to talk about that a little bit?
I would love to actually air it on this episode if you're cool with that.
About the brown band? Yeah, yeah.
That was made like in my late 20s or something.
I don't know.
My whole thing, man, is I get really excited about stuff that no one else really cares about, and then it becomes of the impetus for a song.
And a lot of the songs I put together I never put out because I'm not happy with the way they turned out.
I had a brown van that my homeowners association was not a big fan of.
And they told me that if you don't move your vehicle, we're going to find you or that kind of thing.
And I'm going, no, I have a house in this neighborhood.
I'll park my brown van where I want to park my brown van.
And HOA had a problem because my van was missing a door.
And they wanted me to replace the door.
I'm like, you're not going to make me replace the door to my brown van.
If I want my brown van to not have a door, my brown van will not have a door.
And that's just how I did it. That's what I did.
And so the HOA, they wanted me to remove the van.
Anyway, I wrote a song about it called The Brown Van and put it out.
And that's just the kind of stuff that I like to do.
That is really awesome. I mean, it seems like you're really, like, a creative person.
Like, you like to create stuff just, you know, instinctually.
That's part of what you do. And I don't do it because it makes money.
I do it because I enjoy it. Really?
Wow, wow. That's awesome. Tell me a little bit about, you told a very hilarious story in terms of, I think, your one camping experience.
Are you comfortable sharing that?
Yeah, I mean, I'll just speak kind of, I don't know how funny it is, but it's true.
You know, there are men's groups.
If you go to a church in Tulsa, James, have you ever been to a church in like New Jersey before where there's like a men's group?
You ever seen this? I have.
I've never been to the men's group.
You've never been to a men's group? Nah, not really.
Well, let me tell you what they try to do.
They try to get a group of men together.
Got it. Okay. So they say stuff like, well, guys, we're all going to go camping together because they try to come up with a way to get the men to get together.
And I just don't like sweating it out in a tent with a bunch of bugs surrounded by a bunch of dudes I don't really know that well.
I just... Maybe somebody else, you enjoy that.
I don't. I enjoy climate-controlled sleeping.
And so I told my friends, I told my friends, fine, I'll go.
I'll go. I'll be there.
Fine. I don't know if I'm going to like it, but I'll go.
So we get there, and I'm sitting down on a log.
And right away, it's...
Oh, bug.
It's like 90 degrees, maybe 85 degrees.
I'm outside in a log.
You hear the crickets and...
I got two bug bites.
It's hot. I'm sweating.
Starting to feel like I smell like an armpit, even though I had just taken a shower before I left.
And I'm like, I gotta go home.
Like, you just got here. I'm like, yeah, it's not worth it.
The whole thing's not working out. They're like, no, no, stick around.
I'm like, okay, I'll stick around.
I don't know, so I'll stick around.
And then all the guys start talking about their wives.
They're all like, yeah, you know, my wife never lets me decorate.
I'm like, yeah, Carl, my wife doesn't let me decorate either.
I'll tell you this, one of these days I'm going to tell her how it is and I'm going to be able to decorate my own kitchen.
And each guy would say these things they're going to tell their wives, but they would never actually do it.
That was like the whole dinner was like, the whole evening was these men sitting around going, you know, I tell you what, my wife's always harassing me, always trying to micromanage me, and someday I'm going to tell her.
And I'm like, no, you're not. You're not going to tell her.
And I found these guys were camping to hide from their wives.
That's what the trip was. And so long story short, I'm like, guys, I got to peace out.
I'd rather not.
That's actually really telling that you don't have to hide from your wife.
You created a situation for yourself where it seems like you both are working together harmoniously.
Like I was saying, chemistry, it seems like you're the yin and yang completing each other.
You know, tell us a little bit about that.
What is it that, how did you set that up for yourself and other dudes seem to not You just gotta sit down and define the goals you have for your faith, your family, your finance, your fitness, your friendship, your fun.
So let me give you an example. One of my good friends, he works out with his wife every morning.
That's their fitness thing. They do that together.
They like working out together. I can't do that with my wife.
I have to be kind of pissed to work out.
I can't work out with my wife.
My wife and I share faith.
We go to church together. Family, we enjoy hanging out with our kids together.
Finances, we agree that This is how much money we're going to spend every month as a percentage of our budget.
This is how much we're going to donate to church.
This is how much we're going to give to things.
So we're on the same page with faith, family, finance, fitness, friendship, fun.
And we just agree on it.
So my wife's friends, primarily, I don't know who they are.
You know why? You don't care.
Right! Because I die!
I can't even sometimes...
Every once in a while, I'll hear one side of the conversations.
And I just can't.
I can't be around other people that are talking about lip fillers.
My gaydar goes off.
I just want to go. So I just can't.
So I let my wife hang out with women.
I hang out with dudes, and then we meet every night, and that's what I do.
Other couples marvel at it and think it's great.
Something gets disturbing, but I just cannot watch The Notebook with my wife.
My wife's watching this show right now called Downtown Abbey or Downton Abbey.
Bro, I tried watching it, Jim, for like seven seconds, and I almost blacked out.
I couldn't handle it. That is hilarious.
You know, let's talk a little bit about the business conference.
I know we're short on time here, but there's a lot of information, a lot of wisdom that you imparted upon us at the business conference.
Tell me a little about your journey.
I mean, is this something that came naturally to you?
Is this something that you learned along the way?
Because, I mean, you are, you know, a top business coach and, you know, we've We met a lot of the individuals whose businesses, I mean, you've helped to grow sometimes 10 times, 100 times.
Tell us a little bit about that experience in terms of learning all that you had to learn to be at that level.
Well, I'll just say this in closing as a thought.
I mean, James, you sell tickets for the Reawaken tour.
And it's you and about three other people that are selling tickets.
You know, we keep the team lean. Right.
But if you were in a room with 100 people, you're all selling tickets, okay?
Imagine you were in a room where you were selling 100 tickets and there's 100 people selling those tickets and you happen to be not the best but not the worst.
Like, there's some guy in the room who's selling eight times more tickets than everybody else.
What would you do intuitively? I would copy what they're doing.
There it is. And that's what business success is, Vim.
So what I figured out is I grew up poor, and I thought, you know what?
I'm just going to study people that aren't poor.
So I studied my neighbor dentist.
I studied a guy who was very successful in audio production.
I studied a guy who had a disc jockey company.
And I read all the books, read all the case studies, and then mentored or I shadowed successful people or was mentored by them.
And by the way, successful people don't want to mentor you.
So what you have to do is you have to call them and say, hey, I'm 19 years old.
I was born yesterday. I'd love to shadow you.
You don't have to pay me. I'm not asking for a job.
I won't interrupt you. I just want to observe how you lead a staff meeting.
Wow. I just want to sit in the meeting and watch you lead a staff meeting.
I just want to watch how you manage your team.
I want to sit with you while you're doing payroll.
I just want to watch you produce your show.
I just want to see you edit the video.
I just want to watch. And you don't have to pay me, and I'm not asking to be paid, and I promise I won't interrupt you.
And I'll even pay you for your time.
I will pay you.
I will pay you, Mr.
Multimillionaire, for your time.
And I offered one guy, I won't mention the name of his company, but he's a billionaire.
And I said, can I pay you $2,000 to spend 30 minutes with you?
Please, please! I'll pay you $2,000.
Finally, he says, yeah, you can do it.
His secretary said, yeah, you can do it.
So I got there. I was able to spend.
I thought it'd be 30 minutes. I got a chance to spend all day with this guy, and he ended up not accepting my payment.
The world's most successful public relations guy.
I paid the guy $25,000 to spend a day with him so I could learn how PR works.
I paid Bruce Clay from BruceClay.com $8,000 a month for 12 consecutive months to learn how to optimize websites.
Wow. Wow. $8,000 a month for 12 consecutive months to have him teach me how to optimize websites.
Last question. You know, the shadowing thing seems to be a big thing that you do.
I've heard a lot of individuals that actually just, you know, come to your office, they shadow you.
Tell me a little bit about that.
Like, have you seen, you know, what has been the success rate in that?
They do watch shadows.
I watch them all the time.
Yeah, they're in all the time. You can see who's a good shadow, who isn't, right?
Yeah, in like five minutes, you know, if someone's going to be standing next to you the whole time, right on your six, following you in and out, listening to what you're saying, taking notes, you know that they're looking to be successful.
But the guy that interrupts me while I'm doing what I'm doing to give me random unsolicited feedback, that won't work.
Never. So if you're out there today, I would just say this in closing.
If you want to attend the highest rated and most reviewed business workshop on the planet, I've been doing them every two months since 2005.
You can snag those tickets at Thrivetimeshow.com, Thrivetimeshow.com.
And my whole thing is I help grow real businesses by helping real business owners solve real problems for real customers in exchange for real compensation.
That's what I do. Now, people that want to have a charlatan, emotional festival of lights, People that want to walk on hot coals and be motivated to stop being inebriated.
I don't know what to do. But if you're out there and you have a real company and you want to grow that real company, just go to thrivetimeshow.com and schedule a consultation.
And if you want to attend the Reawaken America Tour, our final event is in Detroit, Michigan, June 7th and 8th.
And you can get those tickets at timetofreeamerica.com.
That's timetofreeamerica.com.
Amazing, Clay. Amazing. Thank you so much, guys, for coming on this episode.
Clay, thank you so much. James, thank you so much.
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