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Thomas Renz talks about the Special Committee Hearing on Covid Vaccine Injuries

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	Alright, welcome to this latest episode of Blood Money.
	Today we have Thomas Renz who's here to tell us about the special committee hearing about the COVID-19 vaccine injuries.
	Thank you very much for joining us for this episode of blood money All right, welcome to the latest episode of blood money Today we have a very special guest, Thomas Renz.
	How are you doing, sir? I'm doing great, man.
	How you been, brother? Good, man.
	Good. It's always a delight to have you on the Blood Money Podcast.
	You know, we know you have a lot of updates.
	It's been a very busy couple of weeks, especially earlier on this week.
	So the mic is yours, brother.
	Let us know everything that's been happening in your world.
	Man, I'm running. I'm running all over the place.
	So, yeah, I mean, right now I'm broadcasting from the offices of Joey Gilbert Law in Reno, Nevada.
	Over here, my brother Joey, who, you know, I mean, he's been a friend for a long time.
	And we're talking about...
	He's got a case that he's kicking around taking to the SCOTUS and seeing if I can help with it a little bit and we'll see what happens here.
	Wow. Can you tell us a little bit about that?
	That sounds very intriguing. Well, you all got a case here in Nevada where this wonderful young lady, she's a mom, Going through a divorce, her ex apparently wants to murder the children.
	I mean, I can't say it that way, but he wants to give them the COVID vaccine.
	There's no benefit. There's a lot of risk.
	And why the hell would you do that?
	Yeah, we're familiar with that case, by the way, I think.
	It's not like... Blonde lady, by any chance.
	Brooke? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
	She was on a Blood Money episode because she went undercover at some teacher summit where they were trying to teach teachers how to essentially break the law and do all this LGBT stuff in their class.
	So she's really interesting. Yeah.
	Just want to mention that. Well, she seems like a wonderful woman.
	And she's... You know, something to do with her ex wants to do this.
	But the Nevada Supreme Court said, hey, if he wants to do it, he's got to do it, you know?
	And so we're looking to see whether or not there's a case to take this CODIS. And this is actually, like, it's kind of a cool thing to talk about because everybody, you know, wants to sue over everything and everybody wants you to go to the Supreme Court on this, Supreme Court on that.
	But this gives me an opportunity to explain to people how this works, right?
	So I'm licensed in the Supreme Court, so I can do this.
	But to go to the United States Supreme Court, you've got to have a case.
	So what you do is you look at the case record.
	And by case record, what I mean is everything that's been entered into the court.
	And that's your original trial court, your appeals courts, all the things that have happened.
	You want everything that's in there.
	And what you've got to do is you've got to look and see, was there a mistake of law or fact that would have a substantial enough impact on the case to cause the United States Supreme Court to step in and change it?
	And if it's a question of fact, it's almost impossible.
	They don't do a whole lot of that.
	It's a real high standard to overturn a question of fact on appeal.
	And you really don't see much of that in the Supreme Court.
	If it's a question of law, well, then you've got to not only have a good question of law, but you have to have a question of law that's going to resonate with the Supreme Court and that for whatever reason they feel needs to be resolved.
	And there's a number of reasons that they may do that.
	So you have to really go after this.
	And you can't, the Supreme Court, I mean, they're no joke.
	They just, they don't take that many cases.
	And so you've got to have something really strong and really compelling to do it.
	So we're looking to see, and you know, sometimes you'll look at something like Brooke's case, and it seems like a terrible idea, it seems like a terrible decision, but is there something under the law that was wrong or mistaken enough That the U.S. Supreme Court may step in and do something about it.
	And even if I disagree with the decision, it doesn't mean that they'll take it.
	Wow. Tom, I'm always impressed by when you and Joey get together.
	I mean, you guys are really the prototypes of how lawyers should behave, really.
	I mean, this is an obvious case.
	I don't even know how the state could turn something like that down and say that A unproven medication is okay to inject into children.
	I mean, that just sounds crazy.
	The fact that you have to take it all the way up to the Supreme Court.
	But, you know, kudos to guys like you and Joey for continuing to fight this stuff.
	Well, you know, we're evaluating it right now.
	And, you know, if we can find something that we believe is appropriate under the law to take to the U.S. Supreme Court, we will appeal it.
	I don't know yet.
	I mean, we have to really look at that.
	And, you know, it's interesting.
	So when I commentate, when I'm talking about what I do, when I go do like what I did on Monday where I'm testifying, Before Congress, that's a totally different animal than when you're going to a court.
	When you go to a court, the rules are very strict, and there's a lot of things you've got to do.
	It's just a really different animal.
	Even though I absolutely agree with Brooke's position, I don't know whether or not there's a case that can be appealed.
	I have to evaluate that.
	I have to evaluate it under the The rules of ethics, the Supreme Court's rules, all these different rules.
	And if I can't do it in accordance with those rules, then I can't do it whether I like the case or not.
	So, you know, it doesn't really matter what I believe or what I like as much as, you know, what is the law on this.
	And so we'll see what happens.
	But, you know, I do appreciate what you're saying there.
	And, you know, Joey and I... Nice thing about us is neither of us are afraid to fight.
	I mean, whether you like what we do or how we do it, the one thing that you can say is that at the end of the day, none of us are afraid to fight.
	And that's really a big deal because we need some people with some balls, if you will, to take a stand on some of this.
	Exactly, exactly. Now, tell us a little bit more about what's been happening in your world.
	You know, we've heard about what's been happening in committee.
	I mean, tell us a little bit about that.
	Well, that was huge, right?
	So that was huge.
	So Marjorie Taylor Greene got a hold of us last week and said, hey, we're going to do a hearing on Monday.
	Can you guys come down and talk about the vaccine injuries?
	And, you know, I mean, the answer is absolutely.
	Now, you know, I mean, a lot of people...
	So, you know, the Patriot movement is...
	It's fractured in a lot of ways, right?
	And a lot of people said, well, she was on McCarthy's side.
	How can you go talk to her?
	Well, here's the thing.
	Going down to...
	When Marjorie's office reached out to us...
	They put no restrictions or limitations on what we could talk about.
	None. Not one other congressperson has done that, period.
	Closest thing we got is Ron Johnson, and he wanted to keep things pretty focused.
	But God bless Ron Johnson.
	He's been an absolute warrior.
	But that means we've got a solid total of two congresspeople with the courage to fight this.
	And you've got to understand Listen, I don't have to agree with every decision that anyone makes.
	MTG is a fighter, and for her to stand up to the special interest on something like this is a big, big deal, because these are the most powerful special interests there are.
	Big Pharma is the most powerful special interest that there is.
	So for her to invite me is a real big deal because, you know, the special interests have had an outright ban on anything that I want to do.
	They've censored me as hard as anybody on the planet because, you know, I come in with facts and it's inarguable.
	And I don't care whether anybody likes what I have to say, because I'm not here trying to impress the Republicans and Democrats or anybody else.
	I'm just trying to get to freedom.
	So, you know, I was really impressed with her courage and being willing to do this.
	And then when I talked to her, I find out, you know, that part of her motivation Is that she's on the COVID committee, and the COVID committee refuses to ask any real questions or to examine any of the tough issues, particularly about these vaccine injuries.
	The reason for that's clear.
	The COVID committee's fake, in my opinion.
	They were put there, and you got Brad Winstrup running the show.
	Brad is a guy out of Ohio, out of the Cincinnati area, And he's owned by Big Pharma.
	I mean, the guy got 168,000 in the 2022 election cycle from Big Pharma on his campaign disclosures.
	And, you know, God knows how much else through guys like Mitch McConnell and the Republican crew that were giving it to him in direct life.
	This was never going to be something where you were going to get real hearings or real anything.
	I sent some of these guys the information necessary before the 2022 elections to go after some of this stuff.
	And not one person would return a call.
	We sent them the stuff on the vaccine and the dangers well over a year ago.
	Everyone in Congress wouldn't call me back.
	I mean, we've put out data that's all been submitted to court, real hard evidence, legitimate evidence that meets the standards of evidence that you need for a court appearance.
	They won't even look at it.
	Well, why is that? This committee was never designed to do anything other than trying, you know, well, we're going to pretend we're going to get Anthony Fauci, and we're not going to actually do anything.
	We're going to have some hearings, but we're not going to do anything.
	We're going to blame China, even though our CIA and DOD funded all of this and supported all this and allowed the technology transfer.
	So we went down there Monday, and I was quite proud of what we did, and we were able to blow all that stuff up.
	And I'll tell you, there were a couple of really big things that we were able to get out.
	One is the DOD-CIA involvement in this.
	The DOD and CIA not only were involved with the creation of SARS-CoV-2, but also the vaccine.
	I mean, there's no question about this.
	And we actually, we had a whistleblower came forward, and we actually submitted for that hearing a bunch of medical records.
	These were actual medical records from a soldier who in the year 2014 had five different encounters with a doctor.
	Well, it wasn't always a doctor, but with someone to get a COVID-19 immunization from Moderna.
	Now, how would you get COVID immunizations from Moderna in 2014?
	Wow. But we have five separate instances.
	I've got that under penalty of perjury.
	I know how that evidence was obtained.
	It's obtained through a court hearing.
	I can't say any more than that.
	So, I mean, there's a solid chain of custody on the evidence.
	I've done everything that I can do to verify it.
	I've verified it from multiple directions.
	And unless there were five different separate errors, In his medical record that all said the exact same thing.
	In the year 2014, someone accidentally entered Moderna COVID-19 vaccination.
	I find that to be hard to believe that in 2014 they would accidentally enter that, right?
	Yeah. So again, this whole thing was developed with and through our DOD and CIA. In conjunction and in places like Wuhan, China and elsewhere.
	And to my mind, there needs to be real investigations whether or not treason occurred.
	I mean, how do you do this when...
	Because what I'm hearing is that the courts are like ignoring the law.
	That's what I hear. The fact that this is even...
	The fact that we're even talking about injecting kids at this point and the court saying that's okay just is insane.
	So, I mean, how do you overcome...
	What do you call that? Corruption?
	I don't even know what to call that.
	I mean, that just seems like authoritarianism.
	It seems like Collins, Russia, not like what America is supposed to be.
	That's tough. I mean, it's real tough.
	What we have to do is, that's why, and we've been friends for a long time, so you know, I don't just do law, I do lawfare.
	And lawfare, you've got to understand, is different.
	It's not just, everybody wants to say that what the Democrats are doing to Trump is lawfare.
	No, what the Democrats are doing to Trump is unethical and illegal.
	You can't file fake cases to try and bankrupt somebody.
	You can't keep suing someone in bad faith to try and bankrupt somebody.
	You can't just harass somebody using the law.
	That's all illegal, unethical, and just terrible.
	Lawfare, as I describe it, is the use of any and all means necessary to promote changes in the law.
	That can be legal in the courts.
	That can be political in the political arena in legislation.
	It's all going to be driven by public awareness and public outcry.
	So what we do is we come on shows like this and we tell people the truth and educate them and arm them with information.
	And then we ask them to push their elected officials and we ask them to push their different people to fight this way, to fight that way, to do all these different things.
	Can I ask you something there?
	Sorry. Is that resulting in anything?
	I mean, we do these shows, obviously, that's our hope.
	Are we creating a dent in the situation?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	1.3% uptake on the current vaccine boosters.
	You know, there's no mandates.
	There's no masks. You know, they wanted to put masks back on this fall and that hell no trended on Twitter.
	Hell no. Are we having an impact?
	Absolutely. There's no more lockdowns.
	They're trying. Outside of a few leftist lunatic pockets in California and elsewhere, there's no masks.
	There's no anything. They're trying.
	It just isn't working because we the people have said no.
	So we've got to understand that when we talk about what's going on in this country, when you say, hey, friends, can you file a suit?
	I don't feel like we're free anymore.
	Well, if you want to be free, you have to understand that the solution isn't just a lawsuit.
	It's also legislative change.
	It's also people taking a stand and pushing.
	We've got to have we, the people, aware.
	And you've got to understand.
	As a lawyer, I can tell you, I can go to a court, and I can ask the court to interpret the law in a specific way, and I can show the court whether there's errors of fact or law.
	What I can't do is go to the court and say, hey, we need to change the law to this.
	That's not a lawyer's job in a courtroom.
	That's something you do through legislation.
	So what we do is we write legislation as well.
	So, you know, is it working?
	Well, guess what? Have you heard about mRNA in food?
	And I know the answer is yes.
	Yeah, yeah. Okay, do you know why you've heard about it?
	Because you talk about it a lot?
	Right, but the reason that you heard me talk about it is one of the most censored people on the planet.
	Last year, we had State Rep Holly Jones in Missouri push for House Bill 1169.
	1169 was about transparency in the food supply.
	Well, that was completely viral.
	That's legislation, right?
	By pushing the legislation, we brought this issue to the map.
	People are aware that it's an issue on a global scale now.
	If we hadn't done that, nobody would know.
	If we hadn't been talking about the COVID vaccines for so long, people would still be taking them instead of a 1.3% uptake.
	Have we gotten to accountability yet?
	Not really, but we will.
	It's a process. We got to keep moving this ball down the field.
	Until we get to the accountability.
	But we're moving in that direction.
	And, you know, the question is, do we wake enough people up fast enough to get to accountability first?
	Or do the bad guys get across the finish line and just institute global tyranny first?
	And I think that we're in a foot race, but I think that we're winning right now.
	Wow. I love that.
	I love that attitude, man.
	So let me ask you about the things we were talking about earlier about the COVID not being talked about, the committee not being...
	It kind of sounds like the Warren Commission to me.
	You know what I mean? More put in place.
	Whitewash it. Whitewash it.
	And for anybody just on the topic of the Warren Commission, that thing has so many holes in it.
	It's embarrassing that openly they try to cover up Conspiracies more or less.
	But when you talk about COVID, the other thing that came to mind is J6. That seems to be the two third rails that all these politicians are scared to confront.
	Why is that? Well, I mean, J6, they don't want to confront because they were involved in it.
	We just did an amicus brief to the Supreme Court of the United States on one of the J6 cases.
	And I'm quite proud of what we did on that.
	I did it in conjunction with former feds.
	And, you know, we had some people helping with that.
	But it was a very good brief, in my opinion.
	Obviously, I was the lawyer of record on it, so I thought it was good.
	And, you know, I was pleased with that.
	And, you know, we now see, I think today they announced that the Supreme Court was going to accept two of the J6 cases.
	So, you know, that's a big deal.
	We'll see what happens with the courts on the J6 stuff.
	But what I can tell you, though, is that J6 was one of the most corrupt...
	There was an insurrection January 6, 2021.
	But that insurrection was led not by a bunch of mega people.
	It was led by the FBI and the Capitol Police.
	The FBI had a bunch of plants.
	They had a bunch of people. They had a bunch of stuff.
	The FBI incited the supposed riots.
	The reports are that most of the damage was done by people who were probably FBI informants or Antifa.
	And, you know, they've just used this as a mechanism to silence dissonance and to silence discourse.
	And, you know, I'm of the belief that this was absolutely an FBI action.
	I also personally believe but cannot prove that both Mitch McConnell and Nancy Pelosi were aware of it ahead of time.
	I think that it was a uniparty play to try and make sure that Trump could never be anywhere near the White House again.
	And I think that the law on this has been one of the most corrupt series of cases I've ever seen in my life.
	You know, when I talk to the lawyers who are on these cases, I constantly hear about the things that the judges are doing that are just out of control.
	And, you know, this is part of the problem, that there's no way to hold a judge accountable.
	If they're doing something illegal or unethical, but...
	I mean, is that...
	Sorry, let me ask you about that, though.
	Is that really the law, though?
	I mean, that's what we've been conditioned to believe, but from my reading of the law, like, whenever a judge is something that's repugnant of the Constitution, they should lose their power.
	They become... I mean, this is stuff that I've read.
	I'm not an attorney by any means, but I've read that they become a minister, and minister means that they are no longer...
	broken the law themselves. I mean do those laws no longer apply? Is it an issue of the legislature and the judiciary not holding themselves accountable at the end of the day? Because when you look at the legislature it's filled again with a lot of bar agents, a lot of attorneys. I mean what's going on there? And is my reading of the law correct there? Well what you've got to understand about the law is that the law is always nothing more than the manifestation of the will of the
	There's always going to be a tyrant that wants the law to say what is something that's going to benefit them.
	And there's always going to be the people who either are going to accept what that tyrant wants or reject it.
	And so, you know, if you have a stretch of road that the speed limit is 55 and everyone is driving 65, nobody's going to get a ticket.
	But the speed limit says 55, right?
	But nobody gets the ticket.
	So you understand that having a law doesn't mean that it matters.
	Joe Biden's ignoring Supreme Court precedent right now and Supreme Court rulings on the southern border.
	I mean, there's a lot of laws.
	Joe Biden is breaking more laws than anybody I could ever count.
	But if you don't enforce it, who cares, right?
	And the problem that we have is the unequal enforcement and application of the law.
	I mean, if I filed cases against Democrats, like these Democrat prosecutors are filing against Trump, I'd be disbarred.
	They're doing it right and left, and nobody's doing anything about it.
	I mean, you've got a judge in New York that's openly talking about how he gets the case rulings that he wants, regardless of the law.
	I mean, you know, who's openly making statements about Trump and this, that, and other, and then is still on the case.
	Is that legal?
	Hell no, I don't think that's legal or ethical, but he's doing it.
	So the question isn't, Are any laws being broken?
	The answer is absolutely there's laws being broken.
	The question is, what are you going to do about it?
	This is one of the things that I get.
	So a lot of guys will look online and they'll tell me, well, I got a private membership association.
	I can do this because of the First Amendment.
	And I've got, you know, I'm a sovereign citizen and I'm a this and I'm a that.
	And here's the thing.
	Without getting into the details of any of these ideas, Okay, great.
	So quit paying your taxes, call yourself a sovereign citizen, and see how long it takes for the IRS to drag you into the courtroom, and then tell the judge that you aren't paying taxes because you're a sovereign citizen.
	That judge isn't going to care.
	You're going to pay taxes or you're going to go to jail.
	Why? Because the judge has people with guns.
	And they've got more guns than you do, and they're going to make you follow the law as they interpret it, whether you like it or not.
	So basically, you've got to understand that just regardless of what your reading is of the law, from a practical standpoint, doing anything about a corrupt judge, especially a federal judge, I mean, it's almost impossible from a practical standpoint.
	I'm not saying that you're wrong.
	I mean, I would argue that a lot of these guys should be disqualified from a lot of things.
	But, I mean, look what that judge did to General Flynn a few years back.
	You know, what that guy did, even the Justice Department dropped charges against Flynn, and that guy's still trying to push it himself.
	And that guy should have been disbarred and threw off the bench.
	But he's still doing it, right?
	So, I mean, you've got to understand that What the law is and whether it's enforced are two different questions.
	And the issue isn't whether or not I agree with everything, you know, every suggestion out there, this, that, and other.
	It's just a practical reality that, you know, if you want to hold a federal judge accountable, you might as well, I mean, you're better off praying that it rains money.
	I mean, it's pretty crazy.
	It's pretty crazy. And I'm not trying to suggest anything here, but I've heard horror stories about how these judges go off the rails.
	And frankly, I mean, we've heard stories about judges getting assaulted, killed, like people taking the law into their hands because they're so frustrated.
	I'm not suggesting that an avenue by any means, but that just kind of shows you the temperature.
	Of what's out there in terms of people reacting to what is, you know, tyranny.
	You know, you're seeing mini...
	I mean, when somebody does something like that to a judge, it's almost like a mini terrorist act.
	It's like, what propels that sort of thing?
	You know, I mean, I don't know.
	What do you think about, like, the ultimate solution to all of this?
	Well, you've got to understand that what you're talking about is the very reason that you have rules like judges must avoid even the appearance of impropriety.
	You know, because if...
	Without the courts, without the people feeling that there's an opportunity for redress when something wrong happens, then what are the people left to do?
	The courts are one of the ultimate protections against riots and civil unrest and other things, because you can go into a civil place and have a nice discourse, and at the end of it, you can get redress, at least in theory.
	The thing is, is we have moved, our justice system has moved to A totally different spot, basically.
	And now what we're seeing is we have a justice system where if you actually want to redress, well, it better not be against the government.
	You can't talk about them.
	It better not be on election cases because that's clearly all bad.
	I mean, there's like all these different things that the courts won't touch and the problem that we're facing right now.
	People are very frustrated about the two-tier system of government.
	And yes, there is a two-tier system of government and a two-tier system of justice, particularly in the courts.
	For a long time, people on the right would hear the people of color from the different communities say, well, we don't get a fair shake in court.
	And, you know, there's a tendency by the race baiters to say it's because of race.
	I don't know any judges or lawyers that are racist.
	I mean, there's some of them that are racist because they support CRT, but I don't know, I don't know, I don't personally know any judges or lawyers that, you know, say, oh, I don't like you because the color of your skin.
	Could I suggest, I mean, O.J. Simpson trial, it's clear that if somebody is armed to the wazoo with really good lawyers, it's not a race thing.
	I mean, yes, if you're poor, and there happens to be a lot of poor, underprivileged Black people, yes, you are public defenders and all that, you're probably not going to get the best representation.
	I mean, what would you say? Well, that's exactly where I was going with this.
	There is a two-tiered system of justice, but the second tier isn't really based on your color.
	The color of your skin. The second tier is based on your socioeconomic status.
	So if you've got the money for an OJK defense, you can get off.
	It doesn't matter. If you don't, well, if you've got the money for Warren Buffett's tax lawyers, Well, then you can pay lower tax rates than your secretary.
	But if you can't, you got to pay your taxes.
	So what you got going on is the law really becomes something that's applicable based on your financial situation.
	And now we're seeing it become based also on your political affiliation.
	So, you know, that's what's happening with Trump.
	It's not that Trump doesn't have money for lawyers.
	It's that you can't get a fair shake because he's politically not where the judges want him to be.
	They've got a political issue.
	And it shouldn't appear that way.
	The fact that I can say that that's a legitimate concern really indicates how far our justice system has fallen.
	Yeah, I want to give another example here.
	I mean, on this topic, you know, a couple of examples, actually, we've heard about CPS situations where they are targeting Christian parents, you know, false accusations, as a way of essentially kidnapping, trafficking and selling children.
	And this is our government doing this targeting citizens because of their religious beliefs.
	Yep. There's no question that that's happened.
	I mean, we have the FBI thing that came out not too long ago about them targeting MAGA people.
	MAGA is the domestic terrorists.
	Meanwhile, we've got these pro-MAS people out there who are literally supporting terrorism.
	And, you know, they're violent when they're marching and all this other stuff.
	No one's investigating that, but we're going to investigate anybody that has a MAGA hat.
	Yeah, yeah. And this bankrupting people.
	I mean, that's clear that the level of tyranny there, like Mike Lindell, let's talk about Mike Lindell.
	They're obviously bankrupting or trying to bankrupt Donald Trump.
	But like, what's going on with Mike Lindell?
	I mean, he's spent so much money on fighting the cause of freedom.
	And I've heard, you know, he's struggling right now.
	I mean, what have you heard? Well, I mean, you know, Lindelsman had hard money-wise.
	He's given so much of his time and resources to fighting on this election fraud that it's had an impact.
	You know, but one of the problems is, so I was talking to one of the big shots, and I'm not going to say who, but I had a conversation with one of the big shots, and they were complaining about their lawyers and their lawyer bills, and I said to them, I said, listen, I said, you've got some great lawyers, probably as good or better litigators than I am, right? I said, but the thing about it is, is they're failing on one major area.
	They're all doing the same thing that every other lawyer's done for 40 years and expecting a different result.
	And you've got to understand that the rules of the game have changed, right?
	We're no longer doing things that way.
	Right now, when you do what everybody's been doing for 40 years, you're basically taking a knife to a gunfight.
	You know, you're fighting by clean boxing roles in a street fight.
	The left is no longer playing by good, clean lawyer roles.
	They're not doing what they did for 40 years, and the courts aren't either.
	So you either have to adapt to the times and play the game as it is, or you lose.
	And that's what's happening.
	We've got great lawyers who are doing what they did for 40 years.
	And, you know, they're expecting that that's going to work, but the games change.
	I mean, what I've also heard from lawyers that have been in the game for 40 years is that, and that have left the game, I could think of a couple, one that actually mailed a letter to the bar talking about how the entire thing is rigged, and she did this about 20 years ago, coming to the realization that the whole thing, I mean, the whole bar setup, the way our legislature is filled with so many lawyers that Really push the agenda of lawyers, not necessarily we the people.
	I mean, there seems to be a lot of issues within the system that is hard to overcome because there's no checks and balances in government, really.
	No, there's not. And, you know, the system's broken right now.
	It's very badly broken, but it's intentionally broken.
	You know, it's being broken by a group of people who don't like America, don't like what we stand for, and they want to see us fall into change.
	You know, they're trying to push CBDCs through, they're trying to push all these things through.
	By the way, plug my books.
	I got the CBDCs, Why They Matter, and other essays, and we have the ModRNA, Why It Matters, and other essays, and just what those are.
	They're very, very, very short and very easy reads, right?
	You can read the books in 15, 20 minutes.
	And what they're meant to be is to give you an overview of these issues so you get talking points, you can argue them, you can go to, you know, argue the fact checkers, you can argue against politicians, whatever.
	And push for change.
	But, you know, we got those two out there available at Amazon, Barnes& Noble, everywhere else.
	But I thought of that, the reason to bring that up is, you know, this ties in very much.
	You know, these guys, they've got the system so jacked up.
	You know, you file good faith cases on these sorts of issues that are near and dear to them, and the bars will do something.
	You know, someone will file an anonymous complaint with the bar.
	The bar will jump on your license because it's interfering with someone's investment.
	And it's just ridiculous.
	And the cost to defend against this stuff is outrageous.
	I mean, from beginning to end, this is really, we're in a nightmarish situation.
	And, you know, I mean, like I said, if the justice system fails, Then we're going to get to a point where people, you know, it leads to civil unrest because people won't, you know, they're not going to bow to a corrupt justice system.
	Yeah, yeah. I mean, look at the LA riots.
	You know, people think this sort of thing happens in a vacuum.
	Try to imagine going through what you're talking about for about 30 years.
	You're black. Eventually, you're like, to hell with this.
	I'm burning. It doesn't happen because, you know, the black people in Watson, Compton, all of a sudden lost their mind.
	I mean, that's a lot of frustration coming out.
	Well, and you know what?
	You know, again, you know, most people think, you know, patriots, conservatives, you aren't supposed to understand this, but I got news for you.
	That's dead right. I'm going to tell you, so you're a poor black kid in a poor neighborhood.
	You're going to, you get into some trouble because you're trying to stay, you know, keep, you know, you sell some drugs that you can feed your, make sure you got food on the table because mom's out as a prostitute and there is no dad and, you know, there's no money.
	So you sell some drugs that you and your brothers and sisters can eat.
	You get arrested.
	Well, you're going to get assigned a public defender, and public defenders do yeoman's work.
	I mean, they've worked their tails off, but they're always overworked, understaffed, and have no budget.
	So you're going to get what you pay for in that defense.
	You aren't getting OJ lawyers.
	So that kid's going to end up going to jail and getting this and that and other, all because he's trying to feed his family.
	So this is something that isn't fair, because it's all about the quality of lawyering and what's going on.
	It really isn't fair.
	It's not right. And so we look at these communities that are feeling ostracized because of stuff like this, and it's understandable.
	And I've been saying this for a long time, but I think one of the things that's important to understand is that now we're starting to see it even more because now they're doing it to Trump.
	They're doing it to very, very prominent Republicans.
	And that's the problem. When you allow it to happen to anybody, it's going to happen to everybody.
	Yeah, yeah. And I'm really hoping that these powerful individuals like Trump really see the parallels between what's happening to them right now and really what's been going on for 50, 60 something years across many different communities.
	Yeah, I do too.
	We really need some reform on this.
	We really need to see some things to get to a different situation.
	It's a sad, sad, sad state of affairs that we're seeing these things happen.
	Tom, not to end this on a bummer, but is there anything in closing that you'd want to talk about, mention for the viewer?
	Well, I mean, listen, there's a lot of good things happening, right?
	We have a lot of good things happening.
	You know, the COVID and the vaccine stuff is going well.
	We're seeing people wake up.
	At the end of the day, this just comes down to how fast we can get the word out, how people are sharing this, right?
	Because if you're not paying attention, if you're not sharing this, then it isn't going to go.
	We've got to get the word out.
	We've got to get people awake.
	That's why I got TomRenz.com.
	That's why I do the Tom Renz Show.
	That's why I got the Rumble Channel.
	That's why I got all the different media, the Twitter.
	I mean, I do it because no matter what happens, if we the people are willing to sell our freedoms, someone's going to be willing to take them.
	And that's it.
	It just comes down to whether we're going to fight for our freedom or not.
	And I think the good news is that we do have more people every day fighting their freedoms.
	Yep, yep. Amazing, Tom.
	Thank you so much for all the incredible work you guys are doing.
	And again, really happy to hear that you and Joey are back together causing trouble, man.
	It's really good news, you know?
	We like causing trouble.
	Well, hey, if I'm not making someone mad, I'm not happy.
	I think, you know, the DOD CIA thing was a good start.
	You know, we made some people mad there.
	And we got a whole bunch more coming.
	We're just, you know, we're just working our tails off on this, moving as fast as we can.
	I hope people will support us, buy the books, go to REM's Law, give, send, go.
	Help us keep the lights on, because it's not cheap to do this, and it's a lot of effort, but we're getting there.
	Awesome, awesome. Tom, thank you so much, and thank you for the viewers for coming to this Blood Money podcast.
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