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Oct. 6, 2023 - Blood Money
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The Zombie Apocalypse with Courtenay Turner
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All right, welcome to the latest episode of Blood Money TV.
Today we have a very special guest, Courtney Turner.
How are you doing, Courtney? I'm doing well, thank you.
Awesome to have you on the Blood Money Podcast.
So, you know, let's just dive right into it.
You know, we've spoken to you before.
Today we had this potential zombie apocalypse that never happened.
You know, tell us, all of us were getting these kind of phone calls, like we're all going to turn into zombies and all this crazy kind of stuff, but nothing happened.
Tell us, you know, how did you kind of deal with this whole situation?
What was going on, you know, with your friends and on your end and the rumors about this whole FEMA alert?
Well, I just thought it was really funny because a lot of my friends were very concerned and they were literally texting me in the middle of when, you know, everything was supposed to, people were supposed to be going to be zombified.
And they're like, what are you doing?
What are you doing with your phone? I'm like, I'm on it responding to you.
I just thought that was funny.
But what did I do? We actually just did a show for Pirate Stream Media and So our Dialectical Dissidents show that I do with Scott Armstrong from Rebunk News and Ryan Christian from The Last American Vagabond.
And we do...
We try to make it weekly.
That doesn't always happen.
But yeah, so we do this show and we talked about it.
And we had two of us put our phones in Faraday cages.
Scott kicked his out to test and see what would happen.
And we got an alert two minutes early.
So... Wow. And I actually didn't get an alert at all.
So I don't know if it was because of the Faraday cage or if, who knows.
Yeah, I mean, so our correspondent from Washington DC and one of our journalists from America Happens, Corinne Clifford and I were like really trying to dive into like what actually happened here?
Where do these rumors start?
Where do you know, where where does this thing come out?
Like, I guess the whole concept was that they're going to do some kind of signal that's going to turn these COVID particles into something within the body and then people become these violent zombies.
So where did that crazy idea come out of?
So I have done some research on where that came out.
I think some of the rumors were sparked by Jason Shurka, who was one of the executive producers of Sound of Freedom.
So he's a pretty popular figure in the internet world.
So he had put out a video warning people.
Then Greg Reese had done a video.
He put in a little, like, Clip from Jason's video as well.
And he did some research.
So I think they started to spark some of the...
I could be wrong. Maybe it started before them.
But to my understanding, they kind of popularized this theory that something may be up.
But I think where a lot of it's coming from is there's a lot of just strange documentation.
So there's like the...
In the PREP Act, there's a countering Marburg virus part of the PREP Act.
For those who aren't familiar with the PREP Act, even as of Wikipedia's own admission, the PREP Act was intended to shield vaccine makers from any financial liability.
That was the purpose of the PREP Act, and that was in 2011.
So it's interesting around that time, there was also like the CDC put out this zombie apocalypse of people.
Then they later said it was a joke.
I'm not really sure how much of a sense of humor the CDC has.
So I'm trying to question that.
But yeah, so I think that started to spark some theories.
And then there was, of course, the countering the zombie apocalypse that was done by like the United States headquarters response team.
You know, headquarters. And then what else was there?
I think there was just a couple of like documents that were kind of questioning, that were questionable, you know, that were put in place.
And then the theory was that there's like this lipid nanoparticle replacement and that that contains viral particles, things like Marburg and other potential harmful substances that could be then triggered.
Then there was also graphene oxide theories.
You know, all in all, it was really just theories.
My bigger concern is that, you know, I haven't really seen much evidence to indicate that FEMA does much to help us.
So it's very questionable what the real intention behind anything they're doing.
They seem to be there too long.
Quote-unquote clean up, but somehow that means they're always there at the right time, which means they knew that whatever disaster it was was going to happen.
How did that happen if it's an emergency and they're responding to some organic natural emergency, but they're there, you know, always before it happened to do quote-unquote clean up, but oftentimes it looks a little more like cover up.
So I just really question more of, you know, why do they need to send an alert to everybody's phone directly?
What is that really all about?
What was their official reason?
Did they give an official reason?
Yeah, there was some sort of...
I don't remember the year that it was implemented, but that every three years they have to do a test.
And I think the idea is that it was both the FEMA and the FCC. And their justification is that they want to be able to access people in the state of emergency to be able to alert them through their phone.
Yeah. I think it's supposed to be like the emergency broadcast alert that used to go through the television screens.
Totally. And TV is part of it, because the FCC included TV. I think people are just so glued to their phones that that became the primary focus for a lot of people.
And then there's just... I had done a video with Dr.
Lee Merritt on this, and we talked a lot about the technologies that I'm not saying that they...
I personally don't think that anything happened.
I think it's kind of a Y2K. That doesn't mean there aren't things going on behind the scenes or they're not using it for some other purpose.
I mean, that purpose could simply be just to Make people look crazy.
I don't know. I have no idea what the actual intention is, but I don't trust them.
So there's that. Did they do it three years ago, by the way?
You were saying every three years. No, they didn't.
There was a lot of talk about it, but it was a...
And this is from kind of the, you know...
I just think it's interesting because they always play, you know, the two-party paradigm.
And I... The last time was under Trump, that he was, because he was censored on social media, that he was going to do some sort of a broadcast alert.
I don't know if you remember that.
That was like a big discussion, that he was going to use the emergency broadcast system.
But he didn't do it, and there was none, to my knowledge.
I mean, maybe I missed it, but I don't recall them doing it.
But that is of, when you go to the FEMA website, they say they are supposed to do it every three years.
Yeah. I mean, it's like, you know, I guess the thing that I want to dive into this, the reason I want to dive into this is because I was trying to figure out, I mean, are we all kind of batshit crazy and paranoid, or is there enough clues to raise concern?
I mean, because it was just such an out-of-the-norm theory that we're all, you know, going to be zombies.
Like, people are calling me, going, like, you know, are people going to attack me?
I'm like, how do they even do that?
Like, let's say that it's even true that, like, you know, people are going to somehow, because of these, you know, the rays or whatever, they're going to turn into zombies.
Yeah, it took How do you how do you make somebody attack somebody else without having kind of almost like a remote control over their body?
Yeah, there's a little bit of a disconnect.
I mean that technology absolutely exists.
Yeah, that technology is real.
I put a little clip in the video I did with Dr.
Lee. It was a new show we started called Dangerous Dames.
The idea is that we're speaking dangerous truths in a world that promulgates dangerous lies.
A lot of it was speculation, but we were presenting the possibility, the technology that exists.
So that's not to say they used it.
That's not to say that, you know, this is definitely going to happen.
But this, I put a clip, so I'll start all the way back, from Anthony Sutton.
I can't find what year it is to corroborate that, but just based on looking at it visually, it looks like it could have been the 60s.
I mean, it was a long year ago.
And he was talking about We have way more advanced technology today, but he was talking about just from RCA, like an actual statement from RCA, which then got taken over by Serco, who's now a very wide mass use government contractor.
But a lot of people know RCA from the music industry, right?
But they put out this whole thing about how they can use just like radio waves to do mind control.
And that was back then.
And now we have things like optogenetics.
And that's, you know, very real technology that very much exists.
There was a guy from MIT talking about how the problem with optogenetics is it hasn't been tested on humans because you need to have some sort of genetic modification in order to activate the technology.
So I will just say something to that.
I think there's a lot of evidence to indicate that's actually not true, that you don't need the genetic manipulation.
However, there could be multiple reasons why they would say that.
One could be to try and lead us to believe that they're doing it now because we have these modified RNA technologies.
So now Maybe people will think that it's possible now.
But I think the other reason could just be to placate people so that they don't think it's a real concern.
But optogenetics is very real.
That's something that a lot of the nanobot technology researchers have been working on.
They've been working on that for quite a while.
And then there's just like microwave frequencies.
So even during MKUltra, Delgado was doing a lot of work with frequencies and brain control, remote interface brain control.
I think a lot of people are very familiar with MKUltra in terms of, you know, it's like mind control.
That's why it's MK in German.
So a lot of people are familiar with that, the trauma-based mind control, you know, and a lot of the mind control experiments that were being done.
But they don't typically think about the brain control.
And I'm sure there were other scientists who were working on it, but the one I'm familiar with is Delgado.
He was actually doing literal, like, remote interface brain control research.
So the technology is there.
They can do...
We know that they can remotely induce a heart attack.
They can... I think where the theories started to circulate is because Charles Lieber and Langer were working on a lot of this nanobot technology.
Charles Lieber is known as the nanotech king.
A lot of people know him from recently being You know, arrested for tax fraud, essentially, with China.
But I think that that was kind of a cover for, you know, like a very white collar slap on the wrist for really what looks like an espionage case.
He was part of the Thousand Talents program.
You know, Harvard had this Harvard-Wuhan research collaboration that he was heading.
Of course, Harvard owned part of his house, but then claimed that they didn't know anything about what was going on, which is a little strange.
And then he, you know, he's partners with Elon Musk on the Neuralink.
He was the one who came up with the patent for the technology for Neurallace.
And he, one of the patents that he has is on these injectable devices Nanotechnology that becomes like self-assembling type fibers, and that's a binary weapon that can be activated through a payload.
And the payload could be something that's remotely triggered by some sort of frequency system.
Like, for instance, a 5G tower.
Now, not at the hertz that it's used for cell phones, typically, but the 5G towers have the capacity to be turned up to the magnitude that would be needed, turned on to the magnitude that would be needed to trigger it.
So, again, this is not to say just because the technology exists, it doesn't mean it's being utilized, but I think that's part of where people are starting to put these dots together and some of these theories start circulating.
Izzy, is any of those technologies that you're talking about, like through waves and frequencies, do they have the ability to wirelessly control people?
Yeah, that's most of what they're working on.
It's all wireless. And actually, they don't even need to inject anything to do it.
They can do this through light frequency, sound frequency.
They don't actually have to have anything injected.
But I think that because of some of the work that was done by people like Langer and Lieber, That has started to spark a lot of theories surrounding...
Yeah. I mean, is there specific types of individuals?
I mean, I've heard that, you know, they try to target people, and I don't know if this is dated information, but, like, people that have trauma and, you know, people that could be essentially traumatized into my control.
But is it as easy as, like, you know, literally walking up to somebody?
Like, if I walked up to Courtney on the streets and I zapped you with something, do you all of a sudden...
Could you all of a sudden turn into a violent zombie?
Do they have that kind of technology?
Well, to some extent, yes.
So when you ask about, do they target people with trauma, so that's kind of a whole separate, there's mind control, then there is remote brain control.
And the trauma, now certainly somebody who has had trauma could have neural wiring that might make them more conducive to that type of remote interface.
That I don't know. But it's certainly possible.
I would imagine that that's actually probably likely.
But when you talk about trauma-based mind control, what they do is they instill triggers.
So then they use those triggers.
So those triggers could be visual, they could be auditory, they could be phrases.
The best resource for this would probably be MKUltra.com.
Documentation. Kathy O'Brien talks a lot about from her experience.
So they have like, you know, very specific triggers that they will install and then they can, hence the word trigger, they can trigger them to be activated.
That's not quite the same thing. So when you say like, can they just zap somebody and turn them into a zombie?
I mean, I guess it kind of depends what you mean by zombie, but they do have the ability to remotely, like we know, That they can do a remote interface to cause somebody to have a heart attack, right?
We know they have, and that's been proven, and they've used that many times with lots of political figures, and we have, you know, court documentation for that.
So that we know they can do.
Things like Can they make somebody just like a little bit, you know, off and destabilize them?
You know, they can totally do, you can do that with light, you know, like LED light.
So, you know, some people obviously are going to be much more susceptible to it, like people who are epileptic.
You ever seen people who are epileptic?
Yeah. Yeah.
obviously it's not targeting them, but it shows the power of the light frequency, I think just for the layman who might not be more familiar with the intricacies of the science behind it.
But yeah, they could remember there were those flashes in 2020.
They showed, there were all these images.
Now, I don't know the science behind what was actually happening, but there were a lot of these videos.
And now I can't, you know, verify what was actually happening in those videos and if it was just a PSYOP or not.
But it's interesting and I think relevant to a question.
They had all these videos, particularly, I think it was in China, where there would be like a flash on people's phones and then they would just fall over.
Wow, wow. So they have directed energy weapons.
They can definitely do a lot of pretty interesting targeted things.
Do I know to the extent of how precise it is?
That I don't know. And I don't know that I think that's something they're still exploring, which again brings to where some of these theories have been sparking and circulating is because a lot of people think they're probably trying to test to refine them.
But again, I don't know.
Do you think, I mean, do you think it was pretty, I guess, not nefarious?
I mean, was it just like, hey, they did a test, or do you think there's something behind it?
And if so, what do you think that is beyond, you know, the zombie apocalypse?
Yeah, I think the zombie apocalypse was just...
Yeah, I think that was like a Y2K. I don't think the zombie...
And it's a bad analogy because Y2K was actually like a numerical glitch.
Yeah. So it's not a great analogy, but just in the sense of that nothing happened.
Oh, yeah. But do I think that it's nefarious?
I don't know. I think that they have...
I don't look at FEMA as somebody who's actually there.
I think it was Reagan who said, like, various words, or I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
I just don't really think they have our best interest at heart.
Do I think that all of these theories are accurate?
Probably not. I think if they were really going to do this kind of, if they were going to install some sort of zombie apocalypse, they probably wouldn't tell us.
I know there's revelation of the method, but they wouldn't be quite that overt about it because then too many people could prepare for it.
So I don't really think that's what's going on.
But do I think that there's something else?
Probably. Why do they really need to do these tests?
They already have access to our phones.
When it comes to FEMA, it's important to remember Katrina.
Because people forget about Katrina.
There's a lot of conspiracy theories around Katrina.
My fiancé does not.
He talks about how he was a Katrina survivor all the time.
Yeah. So, I mean, have you heard of theories about how, well, firstly, in terms of FEMA, I think the issue with FEMA and Katrina was, firstly, they showed up extremely late.
Then I think the housing that they built had some kind of toxic element to it, where formaldehyde, yeah, it was all formaldehyde.
So they had all these black people living in these formaldehyde communities.
big one was a lot of people that I used to go to New Orleans a lot, especially in the early 2000s. I was a music video director.
There was a lot of music videos being shot there.
And I hung out in an area called ninth ward, which was, uh, got pretty badly hit, uh, due to Katrina.
And there was a lot of people that were telling me they heard dynamite go off that, you know, knock those levies out.
And I don't know if, you know, that's a conspiracy theory or something, but they said they heard explosions, which I guess the breaking of the dams could sound like explosions, but, you know.
Yeah. I don't know.
I mean, there's also the discussion of apparently, and I've read this, I obviously wasn't there, and I don't have too much information surrounding, but apparently they, under Kendi, they tried to implement FEMA. They approached him about it, and he apparently said no.
And there's a lot of speculation that that was part of why they took him out, or at least one of the reasons, because he was very against it.
I just think it's a power grab.
And I think it's also, it puts people into, you know, there's all this speculation about guillotines that FEMA has, right?
So it seems like they do a lot more cover-up than real clean-up.
And it just doesn't seem like they're, it seems like they're People then, it's like problem, reaction, solution kind of thing.
So I just don't trust them.
Do I think that what happened today with the test, that there's some...
I don't think it's about a zombie apocalypse.
Do I think it's about either, you know, the theories probably could have been circulating to just discredit people who question things.
And that's entirely possible.
Could there be something going on totally unrelated under the surface that we know nothing about and everybody's distracted with either turning off their phones or talking about it or...
And they're not looking at what else might be happening.
That's possible. I mean, there's a million possibilities.
But ultimately, at the end of the day, do I trust FEMA? Probably not.
I mean, the thing that's kind of occurs to me is that every single federal government organization, I mean, do we have a reason to have any of these organizations exist?
They all seem to be bad news on the federal level.
I mean, FEMA, you know, being one of them.
Department of Education.
I mean, there's, you know, the list goes on.
It just seems like anything, any ideas coming from the federal government are bad.
I agree. I say it over and over again.
If they were to just completely dissolve the federal apparatus of government, I would be okay with that, actually.
I think that we might be better off.
And I know that's a pretty bold statement to make, but honestly, the Constitution was constructed to favor local government.
It was, you know, states' rights were, We're above federal rights, and we're so far astray from that now.
The federal apparatus has just become so incredibly bloated, and their overreach of power is just egregious.
Again, I don't trust any of them.
I just don't see that they have our best interests at heart.
I think you can look at it as, at best, they're kind of inept, and they're Once you give them a little power, it kind of goes awry.
But if we really look at it, I feel like it's much more sinister than that.
And what's worse now is that it's being connected to a larger globally centralized type of infrastructure.
You know, with all of these NGOs that are trying for, you know, one world type of global governance.
So that's not good news to me.
It's what? That's not good news to me.
No, no, it's terrible news.
I mean, we just had an episode of HN News yesterday where a gentleman that talks about, you know, the STEM climate change.
Was explaining how the UN has all these things happening right now, all these like resolutions and that sort of thing.
They're all about, you know, eroding our sovereignty, going forward with this like climate hoax.
And then, you know, obviously climate lockdowns, climate emergencies.
And it seems as though the Republicans seem to kind of go along with this sort of thing.
Definitely not as extreme as the left, but he was saying that even saying that there is such a thing as climate change based upon human behavior.
Is false.
And, you know, the Republicans saying that there is actual climate change should be called out because none of this is true.
Yeah, well, there is climate change.
You know, I think this morning it was like 60 degrees here and it is now, I think, close to 85.
So the climate has changed within a span of a few hours.
That does not mean that it's being caused by the means that it's not being caused by excess CO2. Anybody who knows that carbon is a life molecule.
So when you take away carbon, you reduce carbon, you reduce life.
That's what happens. Anybody who took like third grade science should know this.
But, you know, these plans have been very long in the works and they are part of a larger, because it's the life molecule, you're the carbon they want to reduce.
This is part of a larger eugenics plan.
And they've actually admitted that, you know, so that a lot of this back then, it was called, you know, global warming.
But a lot of this climate narrative stuff, it comes out of the Club of Rome.
They wrote their limits of growth document, right?
That was in 1972, you know, right after the World Economic Forum, which is very closely tied to the Club of Rome.
So it was right around that time.
It was a year later. They wrote this Limits to Growth document.
And just as the name implies, it was all about population control.
And it was very much a negative eugenics type of philosophy behind it.
But they talked about how in their, so 20 years later, in 1992, the Club of Rome wrote this document called Global Reformation.
And in that document, they had talked about how, you know, this was, I mean, I'm paraphrasing, but essentially they were saying, like, this is a bunch of junk science.
Nobody's really going to get on board.
But if we create a common enemy, then people will support it.
And so they were trying to rally, figure out what A common enemy that people would rally behind was, and they decided that the enemy of humanity was man.
This is why you are the carbon they want to reduce.
So, yeah, I mean, this is really, it's fabricated propaganda.
And I know, you know, there's this trend in the quote-unquote very smart people.
We'll just call them that for the purpose of this conversation.
But they want to lead you to believe that they've really analyzed the data and they found all the nuance.
We can't just dismiss either side.
And I very much appreciate people stepping outside of the control of managed dialectical narrative.
However, you know, so much of this really was manufactured propaganda.
That does not mean that, you know, the climate, I don't want to say the climate, but that the environment, you know, is in no way being harmed by some of our practices.
I think that just as, you know, decent human beings, we would want to take care of, you know, the world around us.
Because, I mean, if nothing, for no other reason than selfishly, that benefits us.
You know, what happened to cleaning up after yourself?
But the thing is, when you start to investigate most of these climate practices, they do nothing but harm.
Or they're just complete shams.
Or they're money laundering schemes.
So, yeah, it's...
It's a big hoax.
And, you know, you look at, like, some of the actual evidence out there, like, we're talking to some individuals that are into the oil drilling business, and they're saying that it's not true that once you take the oil out, all of a sudden it's dry, it's gone.
A lot of the time the earth is replenishing, right?
Other things we've heard about, you know, those, that whole Amazon rainforest, they're cutting them down, and then a researcher went into that and figured out that within seven years the trees were actually Most of the forests are actually back, right?
So there seems to be a lot of, like, paranoid conversation on both sides.
Obviously, we just went through a potential zombie apocalypse that happened, which was, you know, the right side.
And then you have the left side thinking, you know, the world's going to end tomorrow because of climate change.
I mean, it's just such extremes.
And if you look at it, it's really because of propaganda.
It's propaganda. This is why I really, you know, dive into the research on Tavistock.
And this is why I'm like, so adamant about kind of, I don't know how to put it, but like blowing the whistle on the shadow think tank, because that is what it is.
It's like the The shadow mother of all think tanks.
One of the first directors of Tavistock was Kurt Lewin, the psychologist.
He actually said that they should behave like fifth columnists.
That's kind of from the inception been their whole agenda and their whole plan.
They were the masters of propaganda.
They started out as the British Propaganda Bureau.
That was literally what they were called when they were at the Wellington House.
I think it's so important for people to understand that we're being bombarded with propaganda.
It's coming from all sides.
You know, I think that nobody is impervious.
We are all programmed. We are all conditioned.
And we don't know what our blind spots are.
But it seems to just be so incredibly pervasive that it's inescapable everywhere.
I mean, you would think that, like, the founders, you know, they thought the Constitution through pretty well, but you would think that, you know, with the British and their propaganda and the British propaganda institution and all this stuff, I don't know if it existed back then, but I think it's very clear that For a long time, the British have been experts in propaganda.
Why do you think, I mean, it would seem as though one of the tools to tyranny is via propaganda.
Hence, the founders that were very anti-tyranny, all about freedom of people, would have thought about something like that.
Propaganda should be illegal and punishable in order to prevent that from being a rote to tyranny.
Well, it was before the Smith-Montax.
Tell me about that.
It was previously only legal to Propagandize externally, like to other countries outside the United States.
But Obama amended the Smith-Mund Act in, I think it was 2008.
And he then made it so that it was legal to propagandize towards our own people.
Well, I mean, that also, sorry to interrupt you, but does that make any legal sense?
Because, you know, propaganda historically has led to perishing, you know, people perishing, murder, wars.
So it is theoretically depriving people, citizens, of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness if all of a sudden propaganda starts to invade their well-being, which clearly it has.
I mean, that wouldn't be hard to establish that propaganda leads to violence, you know, and then, you know, people die, you know, we've seen shootings because of propaganda.
Well, not just in terms of violence.
I mean, we could see it over the past few years.
I mean, the amount of damage and literally death that propaganda...
Yeah. It was responsible for.
I just want to read this.
I'll read just this one line really quickly to you because this is from Kurt Lewin.
But he says, if we are to infiltrate the professional and social activities of other people, I think we must imitate the totalitarians and organize some sort of fifth column activity.
So he literally said we should imitate the totalitarians.
Wow, wow, okay. Yeah, and that was in the Mental Health Journal in 1946.
But you talk about our founding fathers, and yeah, I mean, propaganda was definitely alive and well.
wasn't the British Propaganda Bureau didn't start until right before World War One. And that was actually it was designed because Germany had a Propaganda Bureau. They wanted to create under in the name of defense, a Propaganda Bureau, but it was largely designed in order to garner acquiescence for both the Britons and the American people to support and engage in World War One. They actually appointed Bernays, Edward Bernays, a lot of people know that name, he wrote the book Propaganda.
He was the double nephew of Sigmund Freud.
His nephew is actually Mark Randolph Bernays, who is the founder of today's modern propaganda machine, Netflix.
But it was him and Walter Lipman, who is a journalist, that they appointed to head what's called the Creel Commission in the United States.
And the purpose of the Creole Commission was to sway popular opinion in favor of engaging the war.
So that was a little bit later.
Obviously that was like 1912, 1913 when they were doing that.
But you asked about the Founding Fathers and they were very familiar with propaganda because they were familiar with the Jacobins and the Illuminati.
And Washington actually wrote several letters and memos warning about the infiltration of the Illuminati, particularly in the Masons, and that they were coming after, you know, the free world.
So, you know, they were very aware and that the Illuminati were masters of propaganda.
So I don't think they were the originators.
You know, the propaganda has been used, you look in ancient Greece, right?
They used it, and it was often done through culture and art.
They did it through theater, poetry, literature, sports, right, it's definitely in Greece, sports was a big part of propaganda messaging.
So I think it's kind of as old as time, but I think that in the early 1900s, it became really refined because they did so much social science study.
It was kind of the birth of the social science as a science, as they call it.
And they did so much testing and studying, and a lot of it was done covertly under the guise of wartime research.
So they had a lot more access and the technology advanced.
I think that changed things a lot as well.
Let me ask you, shouldn't propaganda be illegal in a free society since it ultimately is a tool of tyranny and leads to tyranny?
I would say that intentional propaganda should, but it gets tricky, right?
Because a lot of time, propaganda is what is used to sell things.
So, you know, it's like if you're doing a commercial to sell your product, It's kind of questionable whether or not- Political propaganda perhaps?
Or is there a way to- Well, a lot of propaganda is not necessarily political propaganda.
It may lead to political division, but if you look at what happened with COVID, that really wasn't largely political.
There's certainly no shortage of political propaganda, but what happened with COVID was very much medical information.
When you look at the feminist movement, So I'm not sure that I would...
I do think that the intention of changing the propaganda weaponized against our own people, I don't think that should have been legalized.
However, the idea that you're going to then, you know, illegalize all propaganda, that's a pretty blanket statement.
And I would get a little bit...
The reason why I hesitate to just say yes.
I mean, obviously, I'm not in favor of propaganda.
But I hesitate to make a blanket statement saying that it should just be...
Sorry, hang on one second. To say that it should just be illegalized because then you're encroaching on freedom of speech, right?
Yeah, yeah. And I think that's a very...
Yeah, it's a blurry line.
Yeah. It's always the way the corporations ultimately utilize some of those freedoms, you know, the stretching of the freedoms.
And also, frankly, it's the combination of the propaganda, it seems, plus the way our politics is structured.
You know, you have these people running for office where it's like a $200,000 a year job and you got to raise like $10 million to win the office.
So you're beholden to all these interests and you're beholden to the elite.
And if the price of entry wasn't that big, it was controlled by we the people, then you could say, okay, we're going to have much more of a balance.
So these kind of infringement on our rights doesn't happen, but it's so top heavy.
It's so based upon the elite and their power that really it seems as though like we the people have lost the grip and we're the ones that are being constantly propagandized and pushed around.
I don't think our own government should be able to legally propagandize against us.
I don't think that should be legal.
But propaganda in general, to say that you want to illegalize that, I just think that then it becomes kind of an encroachment on speech, and I'm Then you have people on the other side trying to make everything propaganda to limit free speech.
So it's kind of like... Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's all a great argument for complete anarchy.
You know what I mean? It's like all these rules.
No, but... I'm kind of in favor.
I mean... Really? Yeah.
I mean, I'm in favor of more...
You know, more anarchical system.
I think people equate anarchy with chaos, and I don't think that that's quite accurate.
I would just favor something that would be much more localized, where there isn't as much formal top-down structure.
And where it really is local.
And if it needs to be local government, that's fine.
But, you know, I mean, I think I could make that compromise.
But this idea of everything being a top-down and more and more centralization is where I have a major problem.
Exactly. Big time, yeah.
We need militias and that sort of thing.
We were talking to a constitutional expert and like militias that are controlled.
Because again, like, you know, everything's so top heavy.
So we have a military that's supposed to protect us.
We have a police force that's supposed to protect us.
We've seen so many instances where that's not what's happening.
No, they're weaponized against us.
They're weaponized against us.
And like, you know, yeah, I'd much rather go to like, you know, whatever, 50 neighbors here, have a meeting and be like, hey, like, you know, you guys are the former military guys, you guys be our militia, our police force.
And it's all done independently through the, you know, we the people, as opposed to relying on corrupt government officials, unelected individuals to basically decide what that looks like, you know, because then They come in with a clear agenda.
They hire people that are puppets.
That's why you have all these police officers running around saying, oh, you know, I'm just doing what I'm told.
You know what I mean? Right.
Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah.
Absolutely. Awesome.
Yes, this has been really cool, Courtney.
I really appreciate it. Is there anything coming up with you in your world that you'd want to kind of talk about and mention, or...?
Well, we are preparing to do another CauseFest.
Right now, we're doing a fundraiser, so it'll be a mini kind of event.
I don't have the exact date, but we're thinking that it's going to be October 28th in South Florida.
That we can gear up for the big one, which we're hoping is going to be in November.
We did one back in June, June 3rd and 4th in Franklin, Tennessee.
We had 53 acts between speakers and musicians, comedians.
I'm an aerial acrobatic performer, so I did two aerial routines.
That's awesome. Thank you.
And we had tons of speakers and panelists and filmmakers.
So it was really just the whole premise behind it.
It's called Cosfest. So creative artists uniting for the sovereignty of everyone.
And it's really just about personal sovereignty and giving a platform to independent creative artists because Oftentimes, the propaganda is done through the culture and inculcated through art.
And so we want to give a voice and a platform to the independent artists who are often censored and muzzled and not allowed to rise in the mainstream.
So that's kind of the mission there.
Yeah, thank you.
What does this next one look like, by the way?
What performers do you have planned?
Is there anything to tell us about it?
So, this, right, first we're doing like a mini one because we have a sponsor, but it's just not enough to, so we're, if anybody wants to, you know, be a sponsor or help us fundraise and donate, reach out to me and contact me through my website because that's really what we need.
It's a very, very massive undertaking.
But this one will be, we think it's going to be October 8th.
We're still locking down the venue and that'll be probably just a handful because we won't have enough to really be able to do.
You know, the big event is going to be probably a three-day event.
And we'll have some repeats from, you know, the previous one.
You can go to Rebels, plural, four spelled out, F-O-R, cause.com.
See, we had Jimmy Levy.
We had, you know, tons of speakers.
We had a bunch of comedians.
Yeah, so we had...
I'm blanking on everybody because there was 53 people.
But it was amazing.
So much talent. That is really cool.
We look forward to that. I've been meaning to ask you a question that I had on my mind a little earlier, but the RFK-Trump situation.
Now, RFK is going to be running as an independent.
We're hoping to have RFK. We've been talking to his people about having him at the next COSFest because we'd really like to get the conversations going.
What are your thoughts? They're saying that him running as an independent will ultimately cause Trump to lose.
What do you think about that? Oh, I've actually heard the opposite, that him running as an independent will cause Trump to win.
Really? But I've also heard that Trump might go completely independent also and start a new party.
Really? Yeah.
I heard that in 2020 quite a bit when there was a Patriot Party.
Well, I'm now hearing the Lion Party.
Lion party, okay. Yeah, I don't know.
This is just what I'm hearing through the grapevine.
I have no idea what will actually transpire.
But what are my thoughts?
Honestly, my feeling is really the conversations are so much more important than who will win because our elections are so incredibly...
Corrupt and fraudulent.
That's not to say that we don't need to be really vigilant and engaged.
We do. We absolutely do.
We need to do whatever we can to show that we are not forfeiting, capitulating, and that we are showing up in numbers.
But because of that, I think one of the most important things...
I'm not in favor of parties in general.
Washington warned us against the two-party system.
He said that it would be A loophole for foreign entanglement.
I think we're very much witnessing that today.
The parties leads to cult of personality rather than a discussion over principles.
So just to bring this to the point about Trump and RFK, I have a lot of concerns with both of them.
Do I think that Trump is the You know, better option for right now.
I absolutely do.
You know, he would have my vote.
I would support him. I think he still has a lot of questions to answer.
I am not happy with a lot of things he did.
Of course, Operation Warp Speed is one of my biggest gripes with him.
And not the fact that he did it, is that he seems to dig his heels in rather than taking any kind of ownership or even just acknowledging The atrocities of all the adverse reactions.
Just even just acknowledge that I think would go such a long way.
I think his base and his following is very forgiving.
And I think that that would actually go a very long way.
But he's a good politician.
And one of the rules of politics is you don't apologize.
And you keep driving.
And he really has taken that a little too much to heart, in my opinion.
I would really like to see some sort of accountability for that.
And also, just moving forward, we want to know that he's not going to then push whatever other...
You know, he always says, well, you have your choice, you know.
And that is true. But a lot of people will tell you they took it because...
He advocated it.
And the same thing with, you know, DeSantis.
DeSantis advocated it in Florida.
So a lot of people were following that.
And I encourage people always, you know, you can't blame other people for your actions and your decisions.
So I always encourage people to do their own research, make their own choices.
But as I said before, none of us are impervious to conditioning and programming.
And so we're all susceptible and vulnerable.
I have other issues with things that Trump did.
I think he's far from perfect.
But I do think he is the best option right now because he seems to be a threat to some of the globalist plans.
As far as RFK, I really like the discourse that he brings to the forefront.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
He's talking about the connections to his father, to JFK, and his own family.
And of course, the vaccine conversation, which ironically, Trump really talked about in 2016.
He talked about his own personal experience.
He talked about his son.
And so I think a lot of people felt like it was a little bit of a bait and switch because they saw him as kind of the anti-vax guy.
And then he was behind Operation Warp Speed.
So I'd like the conversations that both of them, in some ways, I think they'd be a great compliment.
I don't know that, you know, earlier there was some speculation about maybe a combined ticket.
I don't think that that is going to happen.
But there is always a possibility.
I know Roger Stone said now he doesn't think it's going to be a VP position, but that, you know, Trump might win and then bring RFK onto the cabinet, a cabinet position.
And, you know, that's a...
Entirely possible. And I think that wouldn't be a bad thing at all.
So, you know, there's a lot of things that RFK stands, you know, stands behind that I don't support that I don't agree.
I think ultimately, he's very much more aligned with a, you know, a more traditional leftist kind of platform, like a, you know, more traditional Democrat, like a more traditional, you know, kind of like a, a A few decades ago, center-left Democrat.
But I still, you know, that wouldn't be my preference.
But yeah, we're in interesting times.
When you mentioned earlier that Trump's been thinking about a new party, I mean, obviously this is something that's been going on, something that's been talked about for the last number of years.
Why is it that now this came up?
Especially with McCarthy getting booted and all that, why is it that this is coming up now?
I don't know. I know that there's also talk of him taking over Speaker of the House, which I know a lot of the...
Sorry, I don't know what's with me today, but a lot of the Q crowd was probably saying that they had been talking about that happening.
But there is discussion of that.
I don't know why it's coming up now, except that I know they talk about it in Fifth Generation Warfare.
In that book with General Flynn and Boone Cutler, they're now on their second one.
They're working on their third book.
But they mention third party being one of the tactics for combating in fifth generation warfare.
So maybe that's where some of this speculation is coming from.
I honestly don't know.
And I don't know that it'll happen.
But I do know that we're in...
We're in kind of unprecedented times, and sometimes the best solution is something that has been unprecedented.
I personally would like to see there be more options.
It doesn't look like we're going to do away with any kind of federal government anytime soon, so I think the next best thing would be to get rid of the party system.
I know that's probably not going to happen either, but for people to get back to If we ever had just a system where we're really looking at policies and principles, I think that that would behoove us as a nation.
Yeah, yeah, totally, totally.
This has been awesome, Courtney.
I really appreciate you coming on to the Blood Money Podcast.
You have Reawaken America coming up too, right?
In Miami, you're going to be out there soon?
I am. I'm speaking.
Awesome, awesome. Yeah, I'm going to be speaking in Miami.
Right now, I'm scheduled. I know sometimes it changes a bit, but it's October 14th at noon, so...
Okay, awesome. Good luck with that and thank you so much for coming on to the Blood Money Podcast.
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