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How to Fight Satan and His Minions w/ John Dyslin (Blood Money Episode 149)

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	All right, welcome to the latest episode of Blood Money.
	Today we have a very special guest, John Dislin.
	How are you doing, sir? I'm great, man.
	Great to be here with you finally.
	I'm excited for us to sharpen some iron together.
	Yeah, yeah. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
	So, you know, let's just dive right into it.
	You know, give us a little bit about your background, where you stem from before entering this freedom world.
	And, you know, we'll get into the fighting of the tyranny of it all.
	But let's start, you know, with your story.
	Sure. So, I kind of had a regular, normal, all-American growing-up experience.
	I grew up in East Tennessee and just, you know, middle-class family, brother and sister, just doing our thing.
	Went to college. Had the opportunity to play some basketball in college, which is kind of fun.
	I'm bigger than I might look on people's screens.
	And after that, went into finance because that's what the cool kids were doing.
	So I thought I'd try that too.
	So I spent over 20 years in capital markets doing mergers and acquisitions and private equity investing and And things like that.
	Then tried my hand at entrepreneurship, started an internet company for nearly a decade.
	And I was toward the end of, at the point of about to get out of that and had my first hard red pill moment when this wild man out of Austin, Texas named Alex Jones kept talking about how 9-11 was an inside job.
	And, you know, the first time he said it, I just shook it off.
	Second time he said it, I kind of looked askance at him.
	And the third time he said it, it was like, enough, I'm going to go find out for myself.
	And, you know, when I did, that's when the, you know, well, that's when it got real, because It's like I tell people, because when I talk to people, talk on shows or talk with groups, one of the points I try to make to people is, the truth is bad enough, but it's when you put the truth with what must be the truth behind the truth, that's when it gets really serious.
	That's when it got really serious for me.
	It's not just that... Okay, they brought down the Twin Towers and there had to be this giant conspiracy.
	And yes, people, conspiracies are real.
	All conspiracy means is that two bad people work together to do something nefarious.
	That's all a conspiracy is.
	So it happens all the time, right?
	And so... So what really hit me, Van, was all the other truths that must be true if the narrative about 9-11, you know, is a sham, which of course it is.
	And it's the depth of the evil, the depravity, the lengths to which people will go to kill, steal, and destroy, the reality of Satan and his minions and the traitors to humanity, which are the human beings that partner with the scumbag.
	And so the truth behind the truth is really what rocks my world at that point.
	Wow, wow. So, okay.
	Let's get into the evil of 9-11.
	This is what I meant, by the way, where we're going to take some turns, you know?
	Yeah. So, the 9-11 narrative, as I understand it, is that, you know, this terrorist in Afghani caves Plan to bring in 19 terrorists to hit the towers and stuff.
	Those of us that have actually researched it know that a building like building number seven doesn't fall down by itself.
	Two, you know, 100 story plus buildings don't fall into their own footprint.
	Also, there is no evidence that a plane hit the Pentagon.
	In fact, for most of us that have seen that footage, looks a lot like a missile.
	And finally, when we talk about United 93, That resembles no plane crash in the history of humankind.
	So you have four instances that don't match any sort of precedent, right?
	Buildings don't fall into their own footprint.
	There's no evidence that there was a plane that ran into the Pentagon.
	And United 93 definitely did not crash into that field.
	Otherwise, that would have looked a lot differently if people want to see what...
	A plane looks like once it's crashed into the field, check out Germanwings where that psycho pilot ran into the mountain.
	You will see what kind of residue that leaves, right?
	So for anybody with any sort of discernment, above average IQ or even average IQ, I mean, it's clear that this was not the truth that they told us.
	How did that hit you once you realize that there are people within our government willing to murder their own citizens for political gain?
	Yeah. Well, and let me add a couple of things, Vim, to what you just said.
	First of all, there are going to be some folks who are listening to you and me who are about to switch it off.
	And I implore you not to switch it off for a few minutes, okay?
	Just listen to reason. Let's just hash this thing out because reasonable people can disagree agreeably, I hope, right?
	So first of all, Ask yourself, is it that what we're saying is so unbelievable or is it that you simply don't want to believe it, but it actually could be true?
	And if you don't want to believe it, believe me, I sympathize with you because part of what shook me down to my foundation, Vim, was I couldn't ignore the facts that I saw.
	And it shook me because I didn't want to believe people could be that despicable, that bloodthirsty, that Just lacking in humanity probably would be a good way to put it, right? That they would do such a thing to kill thousands of people with a sham of a cover to do all the things they did.
	So that's the first point.
	The second point, Vim, I would make is...
	So let's... Back to the people who are watching who think, oh, well, they're both crazy.
	Right? We're crazy.
	It's not... So setting aside whatever narrative I think is the real narrative, right?
	Let's just consider for a second the official narrative.
	It's not that you have to believe all of the evidence that's come out that is incontrovertible and stands in stark contrast to the narrative.
	If even one of these pieces of evidence is wholly true, Then the entire false official narrative falls to pieces.
	And then what you have to do is you have to deal with, okay, well, what really did happen then on that fateful day?
	And so, for example, you might not...
	I'm trying to think of something that's hard.
	Okay. Let's say that you really think that the wreckage outside the Pentagon, oh, that could be a plane crash, which, of course, it could not.
	But let's just assume that for a second.
	Well, you've got to deal with World Trade Center 7.
	You've got to deal with a steel girder structure for the first time in human history, free falling into its own footprint at the speed of gravity.
	And what makes that happen?
	You've got to answer that question.
	And the official narrative, there is no official narrative that could possibly do that because a real answer that could settle that set of physics results is simply, it's almost too horrifying to look at.
	But I would exhort you, look at the truth.
	Question everything and come to your own conclusions and then consider, well, what does that mean about our government?
	What does it mean about official leadership?
	What does it mean about the powers that be in this nation, in this world?
	And then what do you do about it?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, you know, you look at the COVID narrative, you look at this tradition that of They don't really care about our lives.
	I mean, you look at the COVID narrative, they were very okay with essentially, I would say forcefully injecting people because when your job is on the line, when your reputation is on the line, when you're being constantly attacked, when you're, you know, you got this kind of triumvirate of employers and media and government Attacking you and putting this peer pressure on.
	I mean, we talk about how peer pressure leads to people developing drug addiction.
	So you have this immense peer pressure really to something that could kill people.
	So when you do that equation, you're like, wait a minute, they didn't care so much about all the people that died in 9-11.
	When you look at it, I mean, it was pretty much a government operation or nefarious actors within the government and or private sector to be detained.
	Absolutely. We know it wasn't necessarily what they told us it was, right?
	Then you look at things like, you know, the JFK assassination.
	You know, so many witnesses died in very conspicuous circumstances.
	Literally, mathematically impossible that so many people that heard what was happening on the grassy knoll and were up front all of a sudden died in a car accident, right?
	Or, you know, we hear plane crashes all the time.
	I mean, you look at all these factors, and it's pretty clear that the government's willing to kill its own citizens for their own media gain, propaganda gain, whatever.
	Yeah, it's well, and like I said a few minutes ago, it's the truth behind the truth, right?
	It's awful enough that 3,000 people died that fateful day.
	What's even sort of the horror behind the horror is the nature of the people who would do such a thing.
	What their priorities must be, what the state of their humanity must be.
	But then, Vim, I hope at some point today while we're sharpening iron that we deal with, all right, well, what do we do about it, right?
	Because the enemy has their moves and we have our counter moves.
	And we're not...
	Life isn't a spectator sport, particularly in this environment where I think we're in the last of the last of the last days that the ancient prophetic text talks about.
	And sure enough, we're right in the midst of it.
	What are we going to do?
	Do we love our wives and husbands enough?
	Do we love our children enough?
	Do we love our parents enough, our communities, our neighbors?
	And if we do, well, then what do we do about it?
	So you're going through a successful life.
	You said investment banking, investment finance?
	Yeah, investment banking, private equity, and M&A. Okay.
	Sorry, go ahead. I was just going to say, then I started an internet company.
	It was an online information services company for apartment community management companies.
	And I did that for nearly a decade.
	And then, of course, I stumbled across this 9-11 rabbit hole thanks to Alex Jones.
	Yeah. And then the veil came off, right?
	And then I saw behind the curtain The Wizard of Oz.
	What year did that happen, by the way?
	That was about 2014.
	Okay. And so once I saw that one, you know, once you, and that's, look, for anybody who's listening, who's questioning, you know, that's the hard pill, right?
	It's the red pill. But once you've seen one of them, then you start to see all of them, right?
	Once you've seen it, you can't unsee it.
	And so once I saw that, you know, then I came across half a dozen other Conspiracy theories, as the CIA would have you think of it.
	And of course, I saw the CIA memo with my own eyes, or a facsimile of it, describing the creation of that language to help create that peer pressure that you spoke to surrounding the Kennedy assassination.
	They invented that term to get us to attack one another, right?
	When we started reasoning through a thing.
	And so I came across half a dozen New rabbit trails to go down.
	I literally spent about a year and a half exploring, I'd say going on 200 different what I think of as rabbit trails.
	Not every last one of them was true in terms of being a fake narrative, but most of them were.
	It only takes a handful before you start questioning The facade that this world would have you buy into.
	And what you do, you know, I'd say on the one hand, Vim, it's It shakes your foundation in how you think about the world.
	But it's also, I would say it's almost strangely comforting, like finally knowing the truth.
	Because we all know that something's wrong, right?
	We all know that it's not supposed to be like this.
	And when you finally come to an understanding of the nature of the truth of our enemies and of, you know, what we ought to do, there's a strange comfort that comes in it because you're not a sheep anymore.
	You're finally... Empowered.
	Because, you know, like Jesus himself said, he said, they shall know the truth and the truth shall make them free.
	And once you know that truth, you're a player on the field then.
	Because you see the enemy for what they are.
	You know, let's talk about your book, Nehemiah Strong.
	Did I say Nehemiah correctly?
	You sure did. You nailed it.
	You're two for two. You're killing it.
	So, you know, at one point you're getting all this information.
	Your eyes are starting to open up.
	You're going down the rabbit hole and you are inspired to write a book.
	Take us through that journey.
	I will. And that's a perfect word for it, is journey.
	Because, you know, there's a story in the Bible about a character called Gideon.
	And Gideon was a nobody.
	He was a nobody's nobody.
	And God came into his life, and through encouragement, he lifted him up to do a little task, and then a bigger task, and then a huge task.
	And then ultimately, Gideon led an army of only, an army, I say, of only 300 people.
	And drove out the seemingly indomitable Midianites out of the land of Israel and utterly defeated them.
	It's one of these miracle stories in the Old Testament of history, actual history.
	And my walk was kind of like that.
	When I came to understand the nature of the world and the wickedness in it, I was really shaken down to my boots.
	And then I found faith, and I came to Jesus Christ, and it was just kind of a radical conversion to, all right, Jesus, what would you have me do?
	It's kind of like the prophet Isaiah in the Old Testament.
	He basically says to God, here I am, Lord, send me.
	And I kind of said the same thing.
	So the first task he gave me was relatively small.
	I really got convicted about the whole doctrine of faith.
	Human sacrifice that we, in our society, we call abortion.
	And, you know, before I viewed it like most people did.
	Oh, it's unfortunate and it's unseemly and But people need to take care of that so they can keep living their lives or going to work or having fun or whatever.
	And then after an hour and a half speech by this lovely preacher named Flip Benham just shook me down to my boots again.
	That was a rabbit trail I hadn't gone down.
	And when I saw it Do you mind if I mention something about the human sacrifice?
	There was somebody we interviewed that mentioned how, you know, these people that are injecting their children with the vax and then putting it on Facebook.
	It's like essentially an Aztec-like sacrifice.
	And I mentioned that because that seems to be a through line in terms of sacrificing our own across a lot of these corrupted industries.
	Apologies about interrupting you, but just want to mention that.
	No, no. I think that's like a soft kill weapon, right?
	It might not happen this year, it might not happen next year, so it'll have plausible deniability when that kid gets brain cancer or whatever it is.
	But it's a cult ritual.
	And people who are deceived into perceiving an evil act as good Are simply going along with that party line and without doing their homework, without considering the adverse consequences, without considering the fact that it's almost impossible for a healthy child to die of COVID. Statistically, like it's less than one in a million.
	You've just got to wonder about what are the real forces at work within that mom or dad, not only to have the experimental mutagenic injection put into their child, but to then brag about it and to post about it and then to create that vicious cycle of peer pressure to lead others to do it too.
	It's vile and it's wicked.
	But, you know, Vam, I feel sorry for that mom because she thinks she's doing the right thing.
	She's proud of what she's doing.
	But little does she know that, you know, that poison is going to kill.
	It has killed children and it's going to kill more.
	Wow, wow. That's just insane.
	So tell me, when you were writing the book, what was your, I guess your, I don't want to say agenda, but what was your goal with it?
	How did this process of writing this book and the angle you took differ from other similar books out there?
	Yeah. Well, let me back up a second and finish my answer to your question about how I got there.
	So I was convicted about abortion.
	And that was kind of the first task set that God laid on my heart to go do.
	And frankly, Vim, I could not imagine going before Jesus Christ one day, because we're all going to face him.
	Like, we're all... You can deny him now, but we're all going to be standing eye to eye with him one day and answer for our lives.
	And I could not imagine standing before him and having done nothing.
	It just, it haunted me.
	It was really the Holy Spirit, like, grabbed a hold of me and was like, wouldn't let me go.
	And so for several years, I did counter-abortion work at a clinic, so-called, a health clinic, right?
	Get the joke there? Where, you know, we had a bunch of saves and trying to convict the workers of the wickedness of what they were doing and begging these moms not to go in.
	So that was my first season, if you will, of being active.
	Second season was I was kind of looking to kind of press in harder into the fight.
	And so I started running with Russ Dizdar, who was Just lovely man of God, terrific preacher, knew the Bible forward and backward.
	But he was counter human trafficking, satanic ritual abuse.
	And so for several years ran with Russ and some other dear friends of mine in countering this human trafficking, satanic ritual abuse.
	It's all kind of interwoven.
	One is the other and vice versa.
	And spent several years confronting that and moving against that Uh, in person.
	And, you know, so that was a big step up in terms of intensity of involvement.
	Uh, and then what's, what's curious about that Vim is for, it came out of that season.
	I was really kind of looking for what, you know, God would have me do next.
	And, and what's funny is that he, he stirred me up to have this urge to write.
	And so literally I was going around Finding things to write.
	And so I wrote a summary guide about weapons training.
	You know, that was 10 or 15 pages, and that wasn't enough.
	So I wrote an American English operator's manual for a complicated VHF, UHF radio, two-way radio.
	And that was a little bit more of a task.
	And then I even wrote a kind of a novella for my daughter for her birthday.
	And that was 70 pages.
	And that became something.
	But it was funny because I was stirred up to write, didn't know what I was going to write.
	And then I saw a video and in the video, Celeste Solem, who is just this terrific woman, lovely believer, really strong faith and courageous, just fearless.
	And she started in the middle of a video for only about a minute.
	She talked about the knock on the door.
	And she talked about how public servants, self-described, would come to your door and they would want you to do things you ought not do.
	And here are a couple of things you can do to confront that, combat that, and push back against it.
	And then she went on about her business on the video.
	And man...
	The Holy Spirit just, I mean, just watching that just grabbed me.
	And I just thought of these, you know, single parent moms with two or three little kids, or let's say an elderly couple in their 70s or 80s, and people knock on their door with, you know, guns and clipboards and a van out front.
	And, you know, and the different scenarios that could happen sort of run through my head of how bad it could be.
	And I just got total conviction to write about that.
	And so that was really the genesis of Nehemiah Strong, was writing about the knock on the door.
	If I'd only stuck to the knock on the door, it basically would have been a thick pamphlet.
	But then, you know, it's funny, you were asking about my plan for the book.
	I really didn't have a plan for the book.
	But, you know, the Holy Spirit, as I was writing about the knock on the door, I was led to just write about so much more.
	And that's why it took two years.
	And that's how it became 480 pages, eight and a half by 11.
	It just took off.
	And, you know, it went where God wanted it to go as opposed to where I thought it would go.
	Because where I thought it would go would be a pamphlet, not a book.
	How did God guide you?
	I mean, what was the direction you found God pushing you into?
	Yeah, and let me clarify that for people because, you know, back in the day when I'd hear people talk like that, I'd kind of get a little suspicious and wonder what was going on or what they had in their tea that they were drinking.
	So it really has to do with conviction.
	For example, let's say writing about the knock on the door, I felt conviction about, for example, and this is a big one, and we could really dig into this, but, for example, that, you know, this knock on the door is a kinetic, tactical thing.
	Event by people who might not have your best interests in mind, by the way, here in this physical realm, but it's really a manifestation of a spiritual war, right?
	I would hope that most, if not all, of the people who are listening to you and me sharpened irons today This is spiritual warfare going on.
	You can sense that things are not right, that the official narrative is a sham, that there are...
	You know, stated goals and then hidden agendas.
	And it's going on at a spiritual level, okay?
	And so that's what I mean.
	As I was writing, for example, about the knocking the door, I just felt this conviction in my gut that...
	There's more, you know, it's like I was talking about the truth behind the truth.
	There's more behind this just simple tactical event going on in your front porch that has to be talked about.
	And so, for example, that's why I talked about, uh, Spiritual warfare.
	Or if you're a believer, if you're a Christian, you have spiritual authority in that spiritual realm because you are an adopted son of the Most High God.
	And then all of a sudden, you're playing on a whole different playing level.
	And because of my experience running with Russ, I had a lot of exposure to that.
	And so I could talk about spiritual authority, spiritual warfare, and talk in that spiritual realm Because frankly, Vim, for your listeners and maybe even for you, if you don't have eyes to see that what's going on is a spiritual war that's raging and that's sort of flooding into this,
	what used to be a relatively normal world, you're going to have trouble explaining it all and having Having a mind to understand what's going on around us.
	And with understanding comes a calmness and a peace and, frankly, a A power to be effective, as opposed to being so bowled over by the lunacy of what's going on that you're like a deer in the headlights.
	And so that's why in the book I talk a tremendous amount about the spiritual aspects of it, because if you don't get that, you'll never, all the craziness that's coming, you'll just not be able to put the pieces together and have it make any sense.
	Because in the natural, it doesn't make sense.
	Yeah, I mean, it's almost like the way I was seeing your book.
	It's also a handbook to surviving all this insanity.
	Could you tell us a little bit about that approach as far as how you enlighten people, how to, you know, put up with the, you know, curves and turns of this, you know, Luciferian agenda that's happening before our eyes?
	Absolutely. And so, I've had various thought leaders like yourself describe my book as a reference guide for surviving this season of trial that we're going through.
	And in fact, I just had the fifth one say, which to me is just the ultimate compliment about the book, although all praise to God, because it's way beyond what I just would have done on my own.
	But five different people now have said, As I go into this season of affliction, I'm going to have, you know, Nehemiah Strong in one hand, the Bible in the other.
	And so to me, that's the ultimate praise for the book I wrote.
	Because, you know, I spent half my time when I was writing, I was thinking, man, I hope somebody reads this.
	I hope it's of any use to anybody, because I just didn't know if anybody would care.
	So it's nice that some do.
	But... You know, the way I thought about it, Vem, because it took two years.
	And even, I mean, I remember I got up on a Sunday morning.
	I think it was 5.30 in the morning.
	I felt such conviction about adding one more section to the supplements in the back that I got up at 5.30 in the morning on Sunday to write it, you know, that morning to get it in before it went to press.
	The way I think about it, Vim, is, so I got all this training.
	I mean, I've trained with a bunch of crazy people, very, I shouldn't say crazy, very capable people between the, primarily related to the counter-human trafficking, satanic ritual abuse.
	It's a lot of really intensive training on the spiritual side, but also Other interesting things that might come in handy if you're tracking bad guys out in the countryside.
	And so the way I thought of the book as I was writing it was, I've got one opportunity to have a really long conversation with somebody about what's going on in the world.
	What's this all about?
	What kind of authority do you have legally?
	What kind of authority do you have spiritually?
	What ought to be in your toolkit, your toolbox in terms of spiritual warfare?
	But then on the practical side, here's the way to deal with and handle the knock on the door.
	Here's the way to build a mutual assistance team because Rambo's Lone Rangers aren't going to go well.
	Here's a bunch of resources for You know, great radio setups and video setups and communications with your team.
	And so I really just wanted to pour out everything I could possibly pour out because that might be the only conversation I got with that person.
	And so that's why it took two years.
	And that's why it's so comprehensive from the spiritual...
	Aspect of everything we're dealing with, which is intense.
	And that's the first step of it.
	That's the foundational step you have to get right.
	Then, from there, what do I do now practically?
	What kind of provisions?
	What kind of people should I follow?
	What kind of preaching should I listen to?
	Where can I get stuff?
	And so it's that whole gamut from the spiritual way into the practical way.
	It's almost like a love letter, if you will, from me to those who see the craziness going on and say, well, now what do I do?
	You reference a lot of scripture within this to draw parallels to what is currently happening.
	Tell me, what did you find within scripture that's enlightening as to the journey that we're on right now as humanity?
	Oh, my word. That could be a whole other show.
	That's its own show, man. We like to ask the tough questions, you know?
	Like, yeah. Oh, no, that's a great one.
	And I'll tell you, That was that was an element of conviction, too, because as because I'm a big guy and I'm not really prone to fear.
	It's just not a thing for me.
	I mean, by the way, for people that are watching this thinking that John is like five foot eight and I'm like five foot seven or something.
	So I'm like six foot one.
	And I remember seeing you in Austin and feeling like I was I was not six foot one.
	You're like, what, six, seven or something?
	I'm seven feet, actually.
	Oh, wow. Seven foot, man.
	Wow. I felt like a little guy next to you.
	It's a common occurrence, and I meant nothing by it.
	But, you know, it's kind of fun because I can't tell you how many conversations.
	I've had hundreds and hundreds of conversations with people.
	I just never would have had if it weren't for that.
	And so it's a great conversation starter, if nothing else, right?
	But anyway, so as I was writing the book, I started having kind of moments of fear because writing it was very heavy and very serious and a sober season of my life.
	Mm-hmm. And as I did, you know, I knew because of the way God had moved in my life and brought me to salvation and finally took the blinders off my eyes that, you know, Jesus isn't some weirdo guy like he's depicted so often, or he's not worthy of the curse word, which is how his name is usually used today.
	You know, he died.
	He paid a horrific price on the chance that you, the listener, Would accept the free gift of salvation because he paid the price in blood for you so that you could live.
	I mean, there is no greater hero to humanity than that, right?
	And so anyway, so I'm writing the book.
	I'm starting to get stirred up in fear.
	And because of how God has moved in my life, I knew the answer is in his word.
	It's in scripture, right?
	And so I started reading Particular passages and verses, you know, looking to get girded up, looking to get strengthened.
	And as I did, I thought, wow, well, somebody reading this book is going to have the same reaction that I had writing it.
	And so I need to incorporate it.
	That's another moment then where, you know, it's not like I heard an audible voice, but I just felt an unction as the King James Version puts it sometimes.
	I felt an unction in my gut.
	To fold scripture into the book where it seemed appropriate.
	And so, as it turns out, there are hundreds of verses in the book.
	And so, for example, I'll give you a really good one, or a pair, okay?
	That really kind of bookend the whole point of the book, right?
	So the first verse is from Isaiah, the book of Isaiah.
	It's in chapter 59, and it says...
	When the enemy, and tell me if, hey Ben, tell me if this describes this season that we find ourselves in, okay?
	When the enemy comes in like a flood, the spirit of the Lord shall raise up a standard against him.
	The enemy coming in like a flood, does it feel like that or does it not feel like that?
	Yeah, I mean it definitely feels like we're being suffocated, excuse the curse word, but we're still being suffocated with bullshit right now and it certainly feels like a flood.
	Yeah. And so there's this flood, but here's what's beautiful about that, Vim.
	So the first half of that verse is the enemy coming in like a flood.
	That's no fun, right?
	But then the second half of the verse is the Spirit of the Lord shall raise up a standard against him, which tells you, first of all, that's a battlefield picture, right?
	If there's a standard bearer on the battlefield and he raises up that standard, that's a rallying cry to his fellow warriors, right?
	And so this is a battlefield.
	It's a war.
	It's in the spiritual realm.
	There's a lot to unpack from that one verse, but God is active and God calls on those who believe in Him through His Son, Jesus Christ, to be active too, to rally to the colors, to be bold and do exploits, which takes me to my second verse, which I think Is God's answer in his prophetic narrative that most people call a Bible, where in the book of Daniel, Daniel's talking about the last days, okay?
	And in the middle of a verse, he's actually talking about this character we now call the Antichrist.
	He doesn't use those terms.
	But there's a comma.
	It's in Daniel chapter 11, verse 32.
	And there's a comma.
	And then all of a sudden he says, but they that do know their God shall be strong and do exploits.
	And to me, Vam, when I saw that and I paired it with Isaiah 59, I said, that's what we're supposed to do.
	And whatever that means to you, that's what you're supposed to do.
	Be strong. And do exploits, do great deeds, do massive deeds.
	Fam, it's like you. You're asking all about me.
	I don't know what got you started doing the calling you're doing and sitting down with people and speaking truth to power and exposing wickedness and evil and the lies, the BS, Bravo Sierra, as I would put it.
	But you're being active on this field.
	And I would dare say that most everybody who would go out of their way to listen to you They're looking for some inspiration.
	They're looking for some understanding of, hey, what do I do?
	How am I supposed to get in this fight?
	And, you know, it's not your or my place to tell somebody you're supposed to go do this.
	But I do think it's our place to say, hey, you're supposed to go do something.
	And it's between you and God, like it was for me writing a book.
	I never in a million years would have dreamt I'd write a book.
	But there are people out there listening to your or my voice They're supposed to be doing exploits, and they're supposed to be strong.
	And I would hope you would join me in exhorting them.
	If you're looking for something to do, go raise your hand, get on your knees, pray to God like, God, what would you have me do?
	And if you raise your hand like Isaiah did, or I did, or maybe them did, He will answer you.
	He will send you out on that battlefield, and you will do exploits.
	Yeah, that's extremely powerful.
	Now, tell me a little bit about...
	So people don't understand the significance of what's happening currently, right?
	What we've noticed is, and we covered this on our HN News Live with Corinne Clifford, our Washington, D.C. correspondent.
	So Christians are being thrown in jail right now with no due process, by the way.
	There was one instance where they went into an abortion...
	In clinic to recover food how the fetuses were actually fully grown I mean look like literally murdered bludgeon tiny babies that's what it looked like yeah so because they went into the abortion clinic dude and did this these individuals were just sentenced I believe 11 years in jail and 11 years in jail.
	And not only were they sentenced 11 years in jail, you know when somebody's sentenced like that's not in jail, usually there's a period where they got to go collect their stuff, turn themselves in.
	No, right from the court, they were taken into jail, which our correspondents found really egregious and a violation of the process of how that sort of thing usually happens, right?
	Now, that is looking like Christian persecution.
	What is your thoughts on that topic?
	Oh, it's absolutely Christian persecution.
	I mean, we all saw all the churches shut down for months and months, and the strip clubs stayed open, the bars stayed open, the targets stayed open, but the churches all had to close.
	I mean, that's soft persecution.
	I'm trying to remember the situation.
	There was the gentleman in San Francisco who did undercover work on the What was it?
	The distribution of baby body parts, I believe, to corporations for research.
	And because of the infiltration, they were sentenced to years in prison.
	But of course, they were completely ignoring that they were exposing this sale of body parts.
	So we should not be surprised that in this age of soft tyranny and deceit and evil being called good, basically, and good being called evil, that those who have faith, that believe in Jesus, that are stepping out in power, we are going to be persecuted.
	And frankly, I'm expecting You know, I don't know if I've said this publicly, but I'm going to.
	You know, for the last 200 some odd years, or 300 some odd years, it's been relatively persecution-free to be a preacher in America.
	And I don't know when this is going to happen, but my guess is in the next...
	Couple of years. That's not going to be true anymore.
	That there's going to be an overt legalistic, it's going to be legalistically driven.
	So there are going to be excuses used for locking up preachers.
	But you know, the most vocal, aggressively truth-telling, meat-serving preachers in America are going to spend time behind bars.
	And it's going to be a complete sham.
	It's going to be completely illegal and tyrannical, but it's going to happen.
	You mentioned that, who comes to mind again, somebody we've interviewed quite a bit on our HN News Live and on Blood Money, Pastor Arthur from Canada, who is currently facing over 10 years in jail, I believe 18 years or something, because he decided to keep his church open during COVID-19 and preach, give food to the homeless people.
	Because of that, this man has been persecuted.
	by the Justin Trudeau tyrannical dictatorship-like government and is currently facing jail.
	His own son is facing jail for deciding to preach, I guess, in a park, one year in jail.
	Trudeau has all but said that the most dangerous people in Canada are Christians and white people.
	So, I don't know. What's your comments on that?
	Well, I don't know him personally, but from what I know of Archer Pawlowski's story, I'm a huge fan of his.
	You know, there should be 10,000 of him in Canada facing prison time.
	If there were, there would be none because the public outcry would be so huge.
	So I'm challenging him.
	You know, the pastors of Canada, before it comes to America, and then we can, of course, challenge them.
	But, you know, the pastors of Canada stand up and defend this man because he is at the tip of the spear, but that's not going to stop with him.
	If they can lock him up, they can lock all of y'all up.
	And if you bend the knee to the tyranny, In the face of tyranny, when you know the right thing to do, you know that Scripture says that you'll be judged more harshly.
	I implore you to stand up in this season for Arthur and to be strong and do exploits, right?
	Like if you took the collar, you took the cloth, you're standing there as a pastor, then pastor.
	And one of the ways to pastor is to stand behind Arthur.
	You know, what he was saying is that a lot of these pastors are, he was saying that basically they're representative of the synagogue of Satan, right?
	Because he said that a lot of these pastors are so happy that now they could do their, you know, preaching from Zoom, that the government's giving all their money, that they looked at this tyranny and what has been happening to Pastor Arthur as a positive thing.
	Like, hey, we're getting a lot more money.
	I don't have to, you know, I could do my preaching, you know, wearing my boxers inside my office as opposed to having to show up to church and shake hands and kiss babies.
	I mean, that's what he's been hearing.
	Well, he's not wrong.
	And, you know, the funny thing is, Vin, I mean, I don't know about funny.
	Funny is not the right word. In this season that we're living in, if you have the audacity to open up your Bible and to read in certain passages like 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy, 2 Peter, Revelation, Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21, you go in there, you go read a few chapters like those, You talk about shaking you down to your boots.
	It will read like what we're experiencing in the news.
	And you couldn't really say that in a time before this one.
	So one of the things that says in 2 Corinthians chapter 11, it says, don't be surprised if, well, let me put it a different way.
	It says Satan appears as an angel of light, right?
	He didn't appear as this horrific, disfigured, filthy, despicable thing because people wouldn't run.
	He appears as an angel of light.
	And then it goes on.
	It says, don't be surprised if his minions...
	Show themselves as ministers of righteousness, right?
	Yeah. So these ministers of righteousness...
	That Pastor Archer is talking about.
	They're Satan's minions.
	He appears like an angel of light.
	They appear like ministers of righteousness.
	And we all know where they're going if they don't repent.
	Because there will be a price on their head in the hereafter if they don't stand up and do what's called for in this hour.
	Wow, wow. So tell me about satanic ritual abuse.
	Now, it seems like you took a journey to realizing what that was that inspired your book.
	For those that don't know, what does that mean?
	How is it happening? How do we know it's happening?
	Well, you could talk to a bunch of them.
	You could do research.
	You could track behind somebody like Russ Dizdar who spent four decades combating it, becoming aware of it.
	He wrote two books on it.
	I've read both books.
	I ran for scores of hours with Russ doing all these different missions, doing training.
	Satanic ritual abuse is essentially Satanic rites of a kind that are designed to basically shatter the human psyche, shatter the human mind and spirit.
	And then by shattering it, you get to put in place, in its place, you get to put different personalities.
	And within those personalities, That person can then become demonically charged and effectively like a host to a parasite.
	Although this is in the spiritual realm, and so the parasite is a demon spirit, and this spirit goes into that person.
	So, for example, in the MKUltra project that continues on at the CIA, which they've perfected to the point where they could just, you know, used to take real work.
	I wouldn't be surprised if they could shatter a person in hours.
	And so if you experience trauma that is so horrific, you can't handle it.
	To preserve yourself, your mind will slough off a piece of your mind.
	And I'm not talking physically, I'm talking in terms of the sort of the mental structure, the spiritual structure almost.
	It'll slough off a piece of your conscious mind and it will compartmentalize the horror that someone is putting you through.
	And so we're talking about somebody of the same class.
	As the satanic minions who orchestrated 9-11, okay?
	So someone like that will do something horrific to somebody.
	That person, your mind will slough off a piece.
	It'll compartmentalize the horror.
	And when it does, then that compartment Almost becomes, well, very much becomes a, like a different personality of you.
	So it might have a different name.
	It might have a different character age.
	It might be a different sex, but also with demonic charging, it can have a specialty.
	And so that specialty might be, uh, as a runner.
	And so for example, uh, Magnum, this awesome Aussie, uh, spec ops buddy of mine and greetings to Magnum.
	If you're watching this, um, Dealt with, in terms of trying to save a young woman in Africa, dealt with a runner personality because she was horribly shattered from multiple, I don't want to beat the graphic here, rapes.
	I mean, it was just very severe, intensive, sustained raping that shattered her.
	How old was she when that happened?
	She was a college student.
	Really tragic story.
	It's all very heartbreaking.
	It's hard to deal with.
	Anyway, she had a runner...
	And so they would save her.
	And then, you know, typically it happens at three in the morning just because, you know, Satan likes his practical jokes.
	So he likes mocking the Trinity.
	So at 3 a.m., you know, she would wake up and this runner personality would take over and she would literally go tearing off 20 miles an hour, like you couldn't catch her.
	And so that's an example of how a sloughed off A fragment of a person's psyche would have a particular specialty.
	But the specialty might be as a messenger, it might be as a spy, so remembering every single word that's spoken by 40 people over a week, and they remember every single word exactly.
	It might be a sex kitten type thing, which in Southern California would be pretty prevalent amongst a certain...
	Category of job, prevalent there in Southern California as the six kittens.
	Or an assassin, you know, so just a super duper, you know, Ethan Hunt grade, you know, assassin person.
	So they essentially fracture your mind through this satanic ritual abuse in order for you to essentially be able to do their evil bidding, more or less.
	Yeah, so you basically become a slave, and then because of your equipping, both through a combination of training, but also demonic infestation, let's call it, you're supercharged.
	And, you know, and something that Russ Dizdar wrote about at length was because he had a lot of dialogue with these folks.
	I mean, they would have the gumption to come and challenge him and tell him all the stuff they were going to do.
	And of course, you know, he was a man of God.
	I'm utterly convinced he had warrior angels surrounding him.
	I mean, he was something else.
	But so he had a lot of engagement with these people.
	And, you know, they would brag about tens of millions of super soldier SRAs, as they're called, you know, who were awaiting the, you know, the call to release and go do what they're trained to do.
	And, you know, what's interesting, Vim, is even in scripture, it addresses that.
	So I think it's 2 Thessalonians 2 in the New Testament where Paul's writing.
	And he said, he calls it the restrainer.
	And he says the restrainer will restrain until he is taken out of the way.
	And so you can imagine, you know, everybody sort of lives their lives and we sort of put God on the back burner.
	But meanwhile, God is the one who's setting the timetable.
	God's the one who's holding back this filthy flood of vermin and letting it happen just very gradually.
	But He's going to hold it back until he doesn't, and when he doesn't, it's game on.
	I mean, is MKUltra and satanic ritual abuse, it sounds like they're the same thing, more or less.
	It's interchangeable.
	So MKUltra, let's say, is one team doing it, or let's say one...
	Sort of official organization project where it's taking place, but they certainly have not cornered, you know, the market on it.
	And so maybe they're leading edge in terms of the technology behind it or the efficiency with which they can shatter somebody and shove in programs.
	But I mean, you've got that stuff going on, you know, in haulers and back rooms and basements and barns and warehouses, you know, All over the world.
	Just all over.
	Wow. It's pervasive.
	And is this for official kind of brainwashing of people by government entities?
	Or is this also happening in just, you know, basically sick people that are into this sort of thing?
	All the above. I mean, so, you know, Different organizations, different church groups, different NGOs, lodges of fraternal organizations.
	You've got, you know, third or fourth generation Nazi types, you know, whose grandparents, great grandparents came out of the POW camps.
	I mean, and that's what Russ would point to repeatedly is this stuff really started in America.
	When you say you're talking about Russell Gold?
	No, sorry, Russ Dizdar, the pastor out of Canton, Ohio that I ran with.
	Gotcha, gotcha. And unfortunately, two years ago, they took him out.
	He was killed.
	So he's not here to tell that story anymore.
	Quickly on that, how'd that happen?
	I believe, and this is belief, not fact, although the facts are awfully squirrely, but I believe it was a tailored bioweapon, genetically tailored to him, because he got sick on a, I think it was a Friday in 2021, and he was dead Saturday.
	We're talking about a big, healthy...
	I mean, shoot, he was 6'7", 280, healthy, strong, and he was dead easily within two days.
	Wow. And what was the kind of stuff you were saying that was putting him in danger?
	Oh, I mean, everything I've been saying to you and more.
	I mean, it's just... In fact...
	No, that was somebody different.
	But he was hated by...
	You know, you're not supposed to talk about the satanic ritual abuse stuff.
	I mean, just so you know, this is definitely for Bolton, as they would say in the motherland of these Nazis.
	You know, you're not supposed to talk about these sick rituals and what they do and how it works.
	And, you know, it's supposed to all stay hidden and stay quiet, which really speaks them to...
	Ultimately, their weakness.
	You know, they have to stay in the shadows.
	They have to stay in the dark because if people caught wind of it and came to understand it and enough, frankly, men stood up and said no more, you know, we make pretty quick work of it.
	But it requires enough of us to get switched on and to say no more and to be strong and do exploits like Daniel wrote about 2,500 years ago.
	Yeah. Wow, wow.
	So in writing Nehemiah Strong, tell me what is it that you are hoping the viewer reads into?
	What is it you're hoping that causes change within the reader?
	Tell me about the journey you think that this will put people on reading this book.
	Well, let me give you an example, which might speak better than what I might describe.
	I actually introduced my book with Doug Hagman and Steve Quayle a year ago, and very nice of them.
	They both had very nice things to say about the book.
	Doug Hagman, in particular, thinks pretty highly of it, which I'm very honored by because he's written a couple of terrific books himself.
	And last fall, he had a friend of his, a woman down in South Florida.
	And she was trying to get involved, trying to figure out her place, you know, on the battlefield and what she ought to do.
	And Doug was kind enough to send her a copy of my book.
	And I'm just telling you what Doug told me.
	Doug said that based on her reading the book and feeling invigorated and challenged and switched on to get in the fight and to be active and to be bold, she entered a school board race as a conservative In South Florida, no less. And she was part of this wave that came through last November.
	And she was one of the new school board members that flipped the school board from liberal, progressive, exposing our kids to the worst sorts of things, to switching a conservative.
	And that was maybe...
	That was one of the best stories I've heard so far of the book...
	Not inspiring people per se, but simply saying, here's how God sees you.
	Here's the nature of the environment we find ourselves in in this hour.
	Now, how can we stand up together and combat it and stand up against it and do like Daniel said, you know, be strong and do exploits.
	That was a prophetic It's going to come true.
	It's already happening. We already see people who are on the front lines making a difference and speaking truth to power and standing up against the evil and the wickedness that's so pervasive.
	My wish, my fervent desire, frankly, for the people who are listening to us talk today is that it would cause them To have a really burning desire to be part of making that prophecy come true.
	So for you, the listener, I would say, why don't you be strong?
	Why don't you do exploits and stand up and stand in this fight and stand against this evil?
	I'm curious, when you talk about exploits, what are some of the things that you've noticed people doing, inspired by your book?
	Or what is it that you are looking for them to be inspired to do?
	Is it simply to find their own path in order to expose the nonsense that's happening, in order to speak the truth of God?
	I think it's so multifaceted time.
	I mean, time in my imagination would fail us, right?
	But, you know, I think that woman stepping out of her comfort zone and running for school board, I think that's a beautiful example.
	You know, there's a woman and I say hello to Shannon.
	I spoke to Shannon's group a couple of weeks ago.
	And she's really active in her state's politics, combating against evil stuff going into politics and standing up for, you know, enforcement of constitutional liberties, etc.
	in her state. Another example, I got a—and look, it can be really simple.
	Like, for example, when I spoke to her group, I said, you know, I feel really convicted that there's somebody here that has been thinking for years about sharing the good news of Jesus and Him dying for our sins.
	I mean, it doesn't get any better than that, right?
	That's the best good news you're ever going to hear, is somebody paid the price for you and you're free to go.
	It doesn't get any better than that, right?
	But I felt real conviction.
	I said, somebody in here has had a desire to share that good news with their neighbor for years, and you haven't done it.
	And I'm sitting here telling you, go do it.
	It's that simple.
	We're not all meant to be These superheroes, right?
	We're not all meant to do these giant things.
	But, you know, for example, in Scripture, it says when one sinner comes to salvation, the armies of the angels of heaven rejoice, shout, and celebrate.
	And so what we think of as little things Here on earth, in this earthly economy, you know, are huge things up in heaven.
	And so it may be something that sounds simple, like, you know, take your neighbor to church with you, share the gospel with them over dinner, have them over for dinner.
	That sounds little here, but I'm completely convinced that that is a huge thing in heaven, and certainly a huge thing in that person's life, right?
	So I think it's all over the board.
	I was going to say one other thing.
	I got a review from a gentleman, and I wish I could remember his name, but he said about reading my book, he said, reading Nemai Strong, I think of God in a different way now, and I haven't had a drink in five days.
	Oh, wow. And so I don't know what kind of difference it can make for the folks who are listening who think, wow, that might be something for me.
	But, you know, I'd love for you to give it a try.
	Not speaking from a selfish perspective, just from the perspective of, hey, if it could make a difference in your life to get you in this fight and get you standing up and strong and...
	Strengthened in your faith and knowing who you are in God through his son Jesus who paid it all for you, then that's worth 48 bucks.
	Yeah. It's worth a lot more than 48 bucks.
	Yeah, yeah. I mean, in kind of researching and talking about how to navigate all this insanity that is currently happening around the world, I mean, what are the biggest lessons you could impart on people in terms of how to handle really what the future holds?
	I've only got one, and then everything else just pales in comparison to this, okay?
	You know, years ago, for Russ Dizdar and his SIIU counter-human trafficking, satanic ritual abuse team, I made up a t-shirt for the whole team.
	And, of course, it was olive drab green, you know, sort of consistent with the spiritual warfare we were dealing with.
	And on the front, it said, know Jesus, know peace.
	And so it was K-N-O-W and then Jesus, K-N-O-W, peace.
	But inside the K-N-O-W, the N and the O were in black.
	And all the other letters were in red.
	And so when you first read it, you see know as in know with your mind.
	So know Jesus and you know peace.
	But if you have know Jesus, N-O Jesus, you have N-O peace.
	Know peace. And I've never described it that way before.
	But if you know Jesus, you know peace.
	But if you have know Jesus, you have know peace.
	And I'm telling you, You know, I've wondered.
	I've wondered because I've read after you've been on the walk I've been on, you tend to read your Bible a lot more than you did before.
	And and I've read Revelation, you know, seven times and and I need to read it again.
	In fact, I'm glad we're talking about it because I'm going to start reading it again.
	But What I found myself wondering was, why did it have to be this way?
	Why does it have to get so dark and so profane and so horrific?
	I'm telling you people, we've got hard times coming.
	This COVID thing, that was a walk in the park compared to what's coming down the pike.
	And so I've wondered, you know, God, why did it have to be that way?
	And I think a lot of people, a lot of unbelievers, a lot of people who like to, you know, rage at God, shake their fist at God would say, oh, you know, he's such a horrible God, mean God, whatever.
	Well, you know, Jesus dying on the cross takes that off the playing board, right?
	You don't really get that.
	But what I've become convinced of them is, you know, as things get darker, As it becomes clearer and clearer, the nature of evil, the nature of the filth and destruction and the bloodlust and the horror and the wickedness and the lies, just the disgusting lies, the choice gets clearer and clearer and clearer, right?
	Are you going to be As I put it, and certainly as it is, are you going to be on Team Jesus and are you going to walk this out in honor and in obedience to the God who paid it all for you?
	Or are you going to break left and...
	You know, embrace the evil and believe the lies and go along for 15 minutes hoping they'll take you out last and spend eternity apart from your Creator.
	And so by things getting darker, Vim, the choice Of which way to break gets clearer and clearer and clearer.
	And as it does, that soft middle ground that I spent most of my life on, you know, that fence that so many people sit on.
	Oh, you know, I'll get serious about God next year.
	You know, I'm busy. You know, don't bother me.
	Football season starting up, right?
	That soft, comfortable middle ground is just getting narrower and narrower.
	It's just disappearing before our eyes.
	And we're all being brought to that.
	Scripture talks about it.
	Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision.
	We're being taken into a valley of decision.
	And I would hope, you know, for you, Vim, I would hope for the people listening to us, you know, I would challenge you.
	Why don't you put God to the test?
	Why don't you get on your knees and say, you know, God, if you're real, if Jesus is real, if he is who he said he was, show me.
	And you wrestle with God, and he will wrestle with you.
	And I would just exhort the people who are listening to us, You know, eternity is a long time, and whatever's going to happen here in the next 15 minutes, you know, metaphorically speaking of history, is nothing compared to the 100,000 trillion years after that.
	And you want to make that right choice for your life while you still have the chance.
	Yeah. I mean, I wish people would consider this sort of thing, because some people seem to do it out of fear.
	Everything is fear-based, right?
	They fear their government.
	Some people fear death.
	Some people fear an attorney in hell and damnation, you know?
	I do wish people would do this sort of thing out of the goodness of their heart, as opposed to fear-based.
	I mean, don't you find that a lot of people, even in pursuing Christianity, do it out of a fear-based Approach as opposed to really believing that that is the right and a righteous thing to do.
	Well, you know, I hesitate a little bit, Vim, because fear kind of made me break straight and break right, because it was only after peering into that abyss for 18 months.
	You know, when I got done with that 180th rabbit trail, or however many it was, and I could see, it's almost like I could hear the abyss breathing, and I could feel the Like a ravening wolf with the saliva dripping off its fangs.
	All it wanted to do was lunge out of the abyss and rip my throat out.
	I felt that viscerally.
	And so that was...
	It's not much of a stretch to say I almost lost my mind in that season because I saw evil for what it was.
	And what it is is absolutely...
	Worse than we can imagine.
	As sheep, we have a tough time thinking like a wolf, but all the wolf wants to do is just lunge on your neck.
	And it was in that moment, because I grew up going to church, so I knew all the stories, I read the Bible, and I knew Jesus was real, I just didn't have time for him.
	And in that moment, I mean, for me in my life in that season, it's basically God saying, Time to choose.
	He was loving enough to show me the horror.
	And I said, you're right, enough.
	I give. I want Jesus.
	I want you all day long.
	I want to do whatever you want.
	Once you're presented with that stark choice, it's pretty easy to choose the one who paid the ultimate price for you on the chance that you would accept the gift, by the way.
	Not even with assurance that everybody would.
	In fact, he knew that most would not.
	So whether it's fear or whether it's an unction or whether your neighbor takes you and the eyes fall off.
	I know a young woman who I adore who was sitting there in church one day and she had longed for a boyfriend, for a significant other in her life and was kind of heartbroken.
	It hadn't come together for her.
	She's 19 now. And she's sitting there in church and she's listening to someone speak.
	And suddenly it hits her that Jesus is the perfect man that she can have in her life today and every day.
	And she just started bawling in the middle of church.
	Wow. And so...
	However it happens, for the people who are listening, I would just exhort you, while we're still in this season where you can get your hand a Bible, you can go to a church, you can go to lunch with your Christian neighbor and say, what's up with all this crazy Christian stuff?
	How could this be real? Blah, blah, blah.
	Do it because, like I said, no Jesus, no peace.
	For people that are starting this journey in terms of being enlightened, finding God, finding that we live in a world that is really good against evil.
	What is it that you would tell them in terms of what they can expect if they do decide to go down this path of righteousness?
	What does the future hold for individuals like that?
	Is it all, you know, hey, guess what?
	It's persecution. We're going to be treated like crap on this earth, but then, you know, there is eternal life.
	I mean, you know, how do we explain this to people?
	Well, Vim, that's a really great question.
	And it's curious because it's this astounding paradox, you know?
	So for example, Jesus said, you know, in this life, you will suffer persecution.
	And so that's kind of the, that's part of the news is, hey, you become a believer, the persecution will happen almost immediately.
	I mean, and I don't know what form, but you'll lose friends, you'll lose family, you might lose a job, you might have to move, you know, you might get divorced.
	I mean, it's serious stuff.
	And of course, with the times coming, it's probably worse than that, you know?
	Having said that, there's this funny phrase that the world really furrows its brow over and shakes its head over and rolls its eyes over, which is when people talk about being born again.
	And Jesus, you know, it didn't come out of left field.
	You know, Jesus himself told Nicodemus, John chapter 3, you know, unless you be born again, you shall not enter the kingdom of heaven.
	And so what it's speaking to them is, you know, we've all got this earthly father, right?
	We've all got a dad somewhere.
	Even if you don't know him, you had a dad.
	But, you know, the good news about What Jesus did for us and what's available to all of us if we would simply repent and believe, like John the Baptist exhorted people back in his day.
	You go from having just your earthly father to them being adopted by your heavenly father who has loved you from before the beginning of time.
	He has seen you, just you, and he has loved you from before the beginning of time.
	And when you suddenly Because he's always been there available to have a relationship with you, right?
	Like he's always been there.
	He's always been knocking on the door as it talks about in the Bible, right?
	The door of your heart.
	When you finally open that door and you have an active, instead of just one way, you have a two-way relationship with your heavenly father who sent his son to face the agonizing death that you deserved.
	And you've got a relationship with Him now?
	All of the calamity on earth pales in comparison with the joy and the fullness and the peace and, frankly, the strength and the power and the indomitability that comes with knowing that you know that you have a Heavenly Father, that you are now His forever.
	And what happens between now and now Like the end of this life.
	I mean, what does that matter?
	I mean, I hate to break it to your listeners, Van, but this is a suicide mission for all of us, right?
	We've all got a death sentence, right?
	Death is undefeated.
	But for Jesus, right?
	Jesus came and defeated death, hell, and the grave.
	So if you're worried about death, you need to get on the J train.
	You know, you need to get on Team Jesus like yesterday because he holds the keys to death, hell, and the grave.
	Yeah, yeah. And what do you think about, I mean, you have all these pastors, right, that are so-called Christian pastors.
	And you have all these individuals that are so-called Christians, but they fear death, they fear government, they have nothing but fear inside them, which seems to contradict.
	I mean, if you are a true Christian, aren't you kind of like welcoming death?
	Because frankly, this is like an evil shit show that we're a part of, and there's something much better.
	Now, if you do not truly believe this, I believe that opens a door for fear.
	I mean, what's your comments to that?
	Well, a couple things.
	First of all, you know, I'm sympathetic because as I confessed to you, what, an hour ago, I had this season of fear when I was staring into that abyss, right?
	And I realized the depth and depravity of evil.
	And so we're all human.
	We're all subject to, excuse me, subject to fear.
	Having said that, Make no mistake, you know, I talked about 2 Corinthians 11.
	Just because somebody calls themselves a pastor doesn't mean they're really a pastor.
	It doesn't mean they're a pastor in God's eyes, right?
	And we know that the enemy, you know, as it says in, what is it, Genesis chapter 3, The serpent was the subtlest, the most beguiling of the creatures in the Garden of Eden, right?
	So he is the ultimate deceiver.
	In fact, he's the father of lies, as Jesus said in John chapter 10.
	So don't be surprised if Satan's minions appear as ministers of righteousness, right?
	Or as... We cowardly ministers, frankly.
	And so to me, I think that's one of the tests of...
	It's one of the ways that you can be discerning as to, you know, is this a pastor that I should really follow and listen to or not?
	It's when they're saying smooth things, they're saying comforting things, when they're prone to fear, when they're quick to shut down, they're slow to open.
	You know, to me, those are telling signs that That very well might be, as it talks about again in scripture, it talks about Jesus himself talked about hireling shepherds who will run when the wolf appears.
	That's a picture.
	It's not literal.
	Well, it was literal, but it's a picture of a false pastor who will run and break at the first sign of trouble or a challenge or government tyranny.
	And Pastor Archer Pawlowski is not.
	He is a type of the kind you should follow where he's not backing down.
	And that's a pastor to follow.
	Man, I couldn't agree with that more.
	I've spent a lot of time with Oster Pawlowski and his son, Nathaniel, actually.
	And talk about, you know, when they say the apple doesn't fall from the tree.
	You know, that is a really good example of the apple not falling far from the tree in that Nathaniel is like, he's almost as fiery as his father.
	Amazing. It's actually amazing when you look at Those individuals and the power that a great mother and a father have on a child.
	I mean, if nothing else, that is the prototype of what it means to have a real father and mother in your life.
	Whereas now we see this, you know, we've seen this movement where It's almost like the fathers mean nothing in the eyes of the law, in the eyes of the courts, in the eyes of government.
	It's almost like this disposable accessory, which if you follow what's happened, it has been absolutely detrimental.
	Fatherlessness in America has been detrimental to the future.
	Tell me a little bit about that.
	Oh, it's catastrophic. And listen, you know, it's back in, I think it was 1961, a really courageous, farsighted congressman read the 45 elements of the platform of the Communist Party of America into the congressional record.
	And so it's forever preserved.
	It's so brilliant. It's forever preserved there.
	As a sample of what our enemies would desire in order to bring down America, right?
	Because you can't...
	If you're a communist, by the way, you know, I've...
	I've got a daughter and she's two weeks into college, right?
	And they're having her read Marx's write-up on the economy like Marx knew something.
	But anyways, which I have to laugh about so I'm not going up there with a pitchfork and a torch.
	But anyway, so When you read the communist platform, and by the way, they've been very successful at 44 of 45 of their planks within their platform.
	Multiple pieces of that platform speak to the erosion of the family.
	Mm-hmm. Just knows as a matter of course that that family is the cornerstone linchpin societal elemental piece that creates and perpetuates,
	sustains a strong society.
	And so, you know, one of these planks was to foster, you know, single parent families, to foster promiscuity so that there are a lot of children born out of wedlock, to We fostered sexual revolution and independence for women, women in the workplace, all this stuff.
	And I know I probably sound like a loon to some people, but think about it.
	Take a step back and think about it tactically.
	What's the impact of all those elements on the family?
	It all erodes and degrades what's going on in that family and the strength of the family.
	And taking the father out of the family, if you look at the statistics on just any measure, there's something about The father's role in that family for the children that when he is missing, just all hell breaks loose in the lives of those children.
	And you see it in all the statistics, whether it's figuring out how...
	How exotic dancer women came into that place, or whether it's looking at the crime amongst the frequency of an absent father amongst people who wind up in prison.
	I mean, it's just extraordinary.
	Uh, how common a thread that is of an absent father and then just chaos in a person's life.
	Yeah. I mean, do you think that's their number one mode of destroying America is really destroying the family first.
	And then, you know, within that you destroy your values and you destroy your lineage and, you know, you have situations like what happened with COVID. Whereas in traditional times, you know, you would look at your Your family's history with, you know, we had like in my family, we had a lot of remedies and we had a lot of knowledge in terms of what's acceptable to deal with your body.
	And the first thing is not to, you know, take a shot.
	There's other options, right?
	But that lineage, that connection seems to have been all but destroyed.
	And now you have people looking to the government as what they would look to their families in the past in more traditional times.
	Which is very consistent with communism, right?
	Because the government is the God.
	And so, but the point I would make, I'd say right before the family was taking God out of the public discourse and the public square.
	And so, for example, the Supreme Court rulings against prayer in school, for example.
	I mean, I was listening to a gentleman and he was talking about learning grammar from a Bible.
	Now he's 70, I think he's 72, but it's within living memory that the Bible was in the school and they taught from it, right?
	And we've gone from that To their teaching, you know, prepubescent children about sex, about anal sex, about, you know, sodomite sex and bringing transvestites in and, you know, and encouraging children to think, you know, it's almost like, you know, with the whole transsexual thing and changing your body, you know, choosing your sex.
	It's like the, I can't remember who it was that said, you know, thank goodness they didn't take me seriously when I thought I was a pirate, or they would have taken a leg off and a hand off and taken an eye out, right?
	When I wanted to be a pirate.
	But no, and that's consistent with, I don't know if you noticed, but in my book, in the foreword, there's a quote about a page-long quote from Alexander Solzhenitsyn.
	In the Gulag Archipelago, he was talking about how different things would have been if when the secret police came for people, if they had hidden in the stairways with any implement they could find, and if they had basically taken down those people, the entire organ of the tyranny would have ground to a halt.
	Something else that Solzhenitsyn said was When he was asked, you know, how did things turn so evil?
	And he said, you know, it started when they removed God from their lives.
	And that was the start of this too.
	I think they took God out as they started attacking the family from a bunch of different tactical angles.
	We could debate whether all the moms should be at work.
	I'm not here to browbeat anybody.
	My mom works and my wife works.
	But if you think tactically about all these elements, they do erode at the base of You know, raising kids intensively and right and carefully and, you know, very hands-on and very presently.
	But I think it started with God.
	Yeah. I mean, and, you know, for anybody that is, you know, I'm a bachelor, you know, dating and stuff, I talk to a lot of different bachelors that are also You know, dating and out there.
	And I don't want this to sound harsh, but the female sex, frankly, and, you know, granted, this isn't like we're not talking about small town or whatever.
	We're located in a big city.
	And I'm talking about, you know, a dozen individuals that I know that are actively dating and One of the things that I always hear is that the female sex is broken.
	And I don't want to have to sound too harsh, but there's just no way for me to put it, that we're constantly confronted with broken women that have bought into this religion of liberalism.
	We're talking about the things that they talk about are, you know, with a sense of pride, body counts, you know, how many people that they've slept with, and the larger the numbers, The more empowered they feel.
	Multiple abortions, right?
	You know, there was a couple of conversations I had, and this is probably with three or four different individuals, which is very enlightening because they said almost the same thing, which was that within a minute or two of time span, they said how happy they are with their liberal lives, the fact that they could go around having indiscriminate sex and how much joy that brings them.
	And I'm talking within a minute, talking about how they have been largely suicidal.
	So you're hearing essentially a sentence that, hey, I'm miserable and suicidal, yet I'm so happy because I get this freedom.
	And to me, I was like, wow, like when you're talking about satanic ritual abuse and how it creates almost two minds, right?
	And these two conflicting minds, man, I hate to say it, like that is what I've experienced already.
	Over and over and over again and almost like a schizophrenic mind that is, I mean, how could you be suicidal and on the same token be so happy with this liberal freedom that you have?
	And, you know, I wouldn't even bring this up if it wasn't like something that literally every single single male that I know complains about.
	There's this thing called Passport Bros, which is American men are going overseas to find traditional women and often they don't even bring them back here because they're scared to bring them back here means them becoming indoctrinated and becoming one of the bad ones.
	And so a lot of these people stay overseas and this is happening in the millions.
	This isn't even like a small fat or anything.
	Wow. Men seem to be fed up with the liberalized female and, by the way, even conservative women are also liberalized females according to this litmus test with a lot of these individuals and these are not you know hardcore extremist type men these are just men looking for monogamous relationship and realizing that today 2023 sex is plentiful like literally you could throw a dime and hit a sexual opportunity but try to have a monogamous
	relationship And that's where it seems to fall apart.
	That's where you hear these sentences where they're so happy, but they're suicidal.
	They're depressed. I don't know.
	Wow. You know, let me ask you a question.
	So when you're talking about these conversations you've had, because I'm a little bit older than you and I've been married for a while.
	So I've been off the market for a minute, as they say.
	When you're having these conversations, are you saying in the first minute or two that you've met the woman in person?
	No, no. I'm talking about within the same minute or two time span, hearing these two very conflicting things of like, I'm depressed and suicidal, yet I'm so happy because I live this promiscuous, free life.
	I could do whatever the hell I want, and my body count is some ungodly number.
	Wow. Okay, so before I got on with you today, Vim, I was thinking about our discussion.
	I was thinking, you know, I wonder how it's going to go.
	And it's just sort of like a little mental preparation of, you know, getting ready to sharpen iron with you.
	As scripture says, as iron sharpens iron, let one man, you know, sharpen another.
	So I think of this as you and me sharpening each other, right?
	And as I was thinking about it, The phrase externalization of the hierarchy kind of popped in my head, and I thought, almost in my spirit, I was like, that's interesting.
	I wonder how that's going to come up.
	Well, remember I was talking before about satanic ritual abuse and how the enemy would, let's say, take a kid captive and do something horrific, and then they slough off their mind and basically make them crazy, but in a structured way so that they're a useful slave,
	right? Mm-hmm. Well, what if Satan, being as beguiling and sinister and despicable as he is, what if he could create a doctrine, okay?
	Let's call it feminism.
	And what if he could create a doctrine and then evolve, quote-unquote, the doctrine, To the point where instead of women just fighting for equal property rights and a vote, what if he got them actually believing in the cult where them being promiscuous and them Celebrating their liberty,
	quote-unquote, took the place of being a Proverbs 31 righteous woman who was upright, who was married, who had a bunch of kids, and lived that life, that sort of biblically traditional life, okay?
	And conned an entire generation of women into believing that what was horrible for her, having abortions, having promiscuous sex, getting diseases, maybe losing the ability to have children,
	being fundamentally unacceptable to a large Yeah, I think.
	Being monogamous, as you said, what if Satan was able to create this doctrine of demons that...
	Scripture talks about didache demonoia, okay?
	Doctrine of demons.
	This is a doctrine of demons where an entire generation of women fall for this lie where what is the worst thing for them they actually are led to believe is the best thing for them.
	But it's insanity.
	And so... Because they are in this cult of self-destructive insanity, they're able to talk about how happy they are and how suicidal they are in the same minute.
	You see my point?
	There's strategy behind it.
	There's strategy of not only destruction of the family, but destruction of that lovely woman that if she valued herself in a right manner, like turned right side up instead of upside down, That she would save herself for marriage.
	She would save herself for her husband.
	Or, if she had been promiscuous, she would come to faith and say, I'm not that person.
	That person is dead.
	I'm now alive in Jesus Christ.
	I don't live like that anymore.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, I would even go as far as to say that I think, like, from what you're saying and what I'm gathering, I feel like the entire population is a victim of satanic ritual abuse.
	Yes, that's why I said externalization of the hierarchy.
	What if you could get all of society to live in madness where society was itself driving its own Satanic ritual abuse of itself.
	See my point? I'm saying that SRA model indoctrinated into doctrine of demons, like feminism being one of a thousand.
	It's just the one we're talking about.
	And then, you know, because you know like I do, ultimately men are kind of lazy.
	I'd rather date the girl down the street than the girl on the other side of the Pacific.
	But I've heard of this.
	I've heard of these men. Of course, it's a different generation than me.
	But I've heard about all these men going overseas for these traditional values women, and it must be driving these local, these American women insane that they're actually hopping on a plane, flying over an ocean to find a woman who isn't utterly corrupted and undermined and really lost her mind to third, fourth, fifth wave feminism.
	Yeah, yeah. I mean, and you see these studies, how they say, I mean, there was a literal study that said 54% of liberal women have mental health illness issues, right?
	54%, okay?
	And I just wonder how much of that stems from, hey, you know, abortions are good, have fun, and they have an abortion.
	I have not met a woman.
	I've met a lot of women that are That have had abortions.
	I still have not met one that is not severely, severely traumatized by that experience.
	They can't let it go. They keep talking about it.
	They keep talking about that child that they maybe should have had or should have been adopted and their regret.
	And even when they're fully Supporters abortion.
	They don't think it's murder.
	It still haunts them.
	But you don't hear the mainstream media talking about that.
	The mainstream media talks about it like Alyssa Milano, because she had two abortions, is like some kind of hero.
	Like they just, you know, fought, you know, freaking the Nazis, you know what I mean?
	And came back home. It's the same language that is used for a military hero.
	Even, I would say they would even inflate that kind of individual more for having had two abortions in the mainstream media.
	Just a little factoid I wanted to throw out there.
	It's heartbreaking because That's what Satan does.
	Again, back in Scripture, in the book of Isaiah, it says, Woe be unto those who call evil good and good evil, who place darkness for light and light for darkness.
	And isn't that the nature of that feminist doctrine, which is doctrine of demons, where it's almost like a cult where if you're in it, You have to believe all these things.
	But as you take them apart one by one and you look at what is the fruit of that tree, okay?
	Let's judge that tree.
	What kind of fruit does it produce?
	Well, the fruit that it produces is...
	Depression, drug use, promiscuity, abortion, disease, early death, you know, misery.
	You know, when you step back and you look at it, you can see the insanity of it.
	But what breaks my heart, I mean, I'm not mad at these women.
	I feel for them because I believe the set of lies that You know, before I got radically saved, just like they're believing a set of lies.
	And I would just, I would exhort them to say, hey, if men down the street from you are jumping on a plane and crossing an ocean to find a woman that they can be compatible with, something's wrong.
	Something's just wrong with this model.
	And And to really challenge, you know, for any of them who might be listening right now, they're fuming at us, they're cursing us.
	I would just, out of love, I would say to you, take apart the elements of this doctrine that you've bought into and put it to the test.
	Like, has it really been wholesome and refreshing and equipping, strengthening, empowering?
	Has it really been empowering to you?
	To live this way, or to have abortions, or to say, you know, I'm never going to get married or whatever.
	Is that really who you want to be?
	And if you project it out 25 years, when you're not, I hate to say, you're not quite as good looking as you used to be, and the men aren't lining up like they used to, and you don't have kids, you don't have a family, you've got a career, quote unquote, but, you know, we all know, like, how...
	How heartwarming that can be in the long run.
	Is that really where you want the path of your life to go?
	Yeah. I mean, I bring that topic up.
	That wasn't a topic I was thinking about bringing up, but I'm looking at all these factors.
	You're talking about satanic ritual abuse and what I see happening on the street.
	It is without a doubt that when people look at something like feminism, third wave feminism or whatever wave feminism, it is pretty clear that the downfall of Western civilization in terms of Our power, our strength as a country was driven by the implementation of feminism.
	And I wouldn't say feminism at its core, you know, because women should get paid equally and all that stuff, right?
	I'm talking about third wave feminism, which seems to be really a Nazi-esque-like movement to say males are toxic, to take away men's rights.
	I mean, already, you know, equal pay has been achieved.
	There's a lot of statistics that show that.
	But yet there seems to be this movement to continue knocking men over the head with the irony of it is women also give birth to boys, right?
	Half the time. So, essentially, feminists have been programmed to destroy their own children, really, if you think about it.
	Destroy their own entire society.
	I mean, here's the thing that I was thinking, Vim, as you were just talking just now, I was thinking, women are essential.
	I mean, as a man who believes in the strength of men and leadership by men, you know, please forgive me for my biblical viewpoints.
	You know, I do think a man should be head of the household, should be head of the church.
	But women are so absolutely essential that And without them being in a right manner, society crumbles.
	And I think we're seeing that.
	You and I were just talking about men being absent from the household and how destructive that is.
	Well, there isn't even a household to be absent from without the woman, right?
	And that's elemental to all of our society.
	And so, if anything, I'm lifting up the role of women and saying, hey, Civilization needs you.
	But we don't need you as this flaming, bra-burning, hate everybody.
	Why hate me?
	Is that really that productive?
	I'm sitting here loving you. I'm lifting you up and I'm celebrating your absolutely essential role in civilization.
	So we need you.
	But I would just exhort you to question this The doctrine of demons that feminism holds because the apple on that tree is pure poison.
	Sorry, I turned my mic off for a sec.
	My video is tripping out a little bit.
	John, is there anything that we didn't talk about?
	I'm actually going to turn my video off because it's stuttering like crazy, but is there anything that we didn't talk about that's really important to mention in closing?
	The mic is yours. I'd love to hear your thoughts on anything.
	Thank you. And let me just say this real quick.
	If anybody likes the cut of my jib, would like to learn more about the book, please feel free to go to johndislin.com.
	That's J-O-H-N and then D-Y-S-L-I-N.com.
	And there's a bunch of information there.
	You can really just check out an excessively large amount of information about what the book's all about.
	Also, there's a discount code of VEM, V-E-M, if you want to save a little dough if you decide to get it.
	But for me, VEM, It is that I'm pretty well convinced that we're going into a new season of trial, for lack of a better word.
	I was going to say affliction, but let's just stick with trial.
	And as we do, It's going to be challenging.
	It's going to be tough.
	We're going to have to keep our wits about us when all of those around us are losing theirs.
	And in this season, I just would really exhort, whether it's getting my book or listening to some great thought leaders like them or whomever, I would really exhort you to to get grounded and look there's just that statement i made about no jesus no peace man that's i i cannot that that is among the greatest truths that i have to relate to if you're listening and so if if if
	you're listening to this a few months from now and we're in the storm and and all hell's breaking loose and that enemy's coming in like a flood like we were talking about The antidote for this filthy, despicable fallen world, his name is Jesus.
	And beyond that, everything else beyond that is just conversation.
	Because if you get that right...
	Then nothing else matters. And if you don't get that right, then nothing else matters.
	And so I've got nothing better to say than that because if you get square on that, then all of this tempest blowing around us is really going to be really of no long-term consequence to you because you'll know who you are, you'll know whose you are, and you'll know where you're going when all of this is over.
	Wow, John. Wow, that's awesome.
	To the viewers, I apologize about my camera.
	It's all frozen and stuff, but that happens once in a while.
	You know, John, this has been amazing.
	Thank you so much for the amazing work that you've done with your book and being inspired and moved enough by the Spirit of God to write this.
	I can't, you know, speak more highly about this book.
	There's rare books out there that reference scripture, give you a handbook on how to fight the tremendous evil that is happening before our eyes.
	So, you know, I really commend you on that.
	And, you know, I couldn't recommend this book more highly, John.
	Again, what is the website that people could purchase this book on?
	Yeah, it's johndislin.com, D-Y-S-L-I-N. Or you can just Google Nehemiah Strong or John Dislin and you'll quickly find my webpage.
	But go on there and don't forget the discount code VIM to save yourself a little money.
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