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Patriot Women Defend Freedom w/ Donna Brandenburg (blood Money Episode 140)
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All right, welcome to the latest episode of Blood Money.
Today we have a very special guest, Donna Brandenburg.
How are you doing today, Donna? I'm doing great.
Thank you so much for having me on.
It's a pleasure. You guys are doing such great work.
It's fun to talk with you.
Thank you so much. Thank you so much.
We try our best. Donna, you're an amazing lady.
Let's just dive right into it.
Tell us a little bit about your background and where you are today.
Lead us up to what's going on today.
The mic is all yours. Sure.
Well, I tell you what, I'm an entrepreneur.
I own a whole bunch of businesses and quite a broad spectrum of businesses from pipeline to rail, a small tech company, as well as we have an agricultural drain tile business.
So we work with farms and farming and that sort of thing.
And some real estate, that sort of thing.
I grew up as a very poor kid and just decided and knew how to work, knew how to work very hard.
My husband's the same way.
And so that's what we did.
So I ran for governor in the 2022 election and was really able to see as a true outsider and a CEO, a true outsider, what the deficits are, what the deficiencies are within the system.
And I was removed off the ballot twice, illegally.
The first time I sued in Supreme Court, and they were a bunch of gutless cowards and refused to rule on it and kicked it down the road.
Went to federal court. The federal court judge said that my rights were indeed violated and refused to offer remedy.
So I'd been asked by the US Taxpayers Party to run previously and so they approached me again and I moved to the Taxpayers Party, got the nomination, got kicked off again because somebody was pulling some nonsense at the Board of Elections and ended up getting put back on again.
Been kicked off of YouTube, developed my own channel and here I am.
I'm on every day for a couple of hours just busting out the truth.
That's pretty amazing. So they were like, I mean, they were clearly threatened by you.
So it seems like who was the people that were picking on you?
Who was the people that were trying to take you off the ballot?
What do you think their reasoning was for doing so?
Well, I was actually told by a special investigator within the Attorney General's office that, and I thought it was kind of funny, and he said, you realize they had to take out four other candidates just to get you off the ballot and make it look like they weren't going after you personally.
And I thought that was pretty funny.
But I had General Flynn's endorsement, and I'm friends with General Flynn and such.
So I was going to go in there to absolutely write things and bring it back to order under the people.
And honestly, I really don't need anything.
I'm pretty happy rescuing horses and shoveling horse manure in the morning.
So I just want my country back.
And that's pretty much it.
So I think it's on both sides.
There was some nonsense that happened with the signature gatherers and there was fraud proven finally.
They alleged it but never proved it.
They did not follow the proper process.
In my case alone, they lost 10,000 of my signatures And they only coughed him up when I sued in the Supreme Court, which I thought was pretty significant.
The Board of Elections, Jonathan Brader, admitted that they were making up policies on the fly.
They were not following the rules in any way, shape, or form.
And this has been symptomatic with a symptomatic or systemic corruption within our government.
They just kind of make things up as they go.
And that's not the way that things are supposed to work.
They're supposed to work as a legal, lawful process so that we keep things on the rails.
And right now we don't.
And that's the biggest problem we have is they're...
They're taking away all the rights, the representation from the people.
They are selecting candidates which they approve and they jimmy the system, they rig the system in order for those candidates to progress on to the other levels.
And truly they've taken away the voice of the people as well as the vote of the people.
And the more I got into the election integrity issues, the more I saw how absolutely rigged the system is.
It's not rigged on one level, it's rigged on all levels.
And so I've been fighting very hard for that.
And my number two issues is the human trafficking, child trafficking, as well as election integrity.
And I throw it all out there.
There's some big issues.
And the Republican Party is part of the problems.
I've dug into the financial problems that they're having there, which they refuse to put out.
And their excuses are lame.
And I've told them point blank.
I've told it to Christina Caramo's face.
I said, If you were as good as you say you are, you wouldn't worry about the competition.
You'd just outpace them.
And they won't because they can't.
Wow, wow. So let me ask you this.
Now, what was the things that you identified in terms of, you're saying there's multiple ways that they are creating fraud in the vote.
What are some of those, I mean, the bullet points of what are those?
How are they doing this? How are they, you know, continuing to steal our election from us?
Well, first of all, the signature gathering is a really easy system to rig and hack.
And they asked, they said, well, you know, the candidates should have looked into these better.
what we did and there was someone that we kind of called within the state and they said that the signature gatherers that they received a lot of them from these people and so we went on that okay alone.
So that's part of the problem.
The other problem is the board of canvassers is made up of, they say two Republicans and two Democrats, but we all know that that's not necessarily the truth.
We've got rhinos everywhere.
So that's a problem within the system.
I could tell you a lot of stories and one of the most egregious problems and infractions that I saw is I went to a board of ambassadors meeting when they were talking about the proposals, the three proposals that went through, which should never have been allowed on the ballot.
The wording was absolutely Horrible.
They made like 43 mistakes grammatically as well as spelling on these proposals.
So it looked like a small child wrote them because of the non-professional mistakes that were made.
And while I was in this board of canvassers, And they were talking about farmland and sale of farmland before they got all to this.
They have no jurisdiction over any of this stuff.
At that point in time, someone got up and talked about the fact that he had been hired by other candidates to do signature verification.
Well, the candidates don't have access to the QVF, the voter files, to be able to do their own comparison.
So basically, that's the reason why you hire somebody to gather signatures.
It's a second check on them.
I ended up getting almost double the signatures that I needed because I was told that they were going to try to knock me out that way.
So we went overboard. Well, this guy was a third party, and he was allowed, and though I was not, we wanted to go in and check the other candidates' signatures to make sure they were valid.
He was able to go in there, and the Board of Elections let him go in there.
He was able to scan and copy off all the petitions with signatures, and he admitted to it in the meeting that he sent them to Bangladesh.
For signature verification because, and that they were comparing them against signatures that they already had in their possession.
And I sat there, I'm like, am I the only one in this room understanding what's happening here?
That's foreign involvement in our elections.
And how is it that this guy walks out the door With petitions, with all these signatures, with people's personal information, sends them to Bangladesh without the Board of Elections saying one thing and then finding out that they had passed information there already that they could compare against.
It's incredible. The nonsense that goes on within the parties to To elevate a candidate through the primary process and everything is crazy.
I did go to one rally for President Trump, and I called that the Michon Maddock electioneering rally.
It was a disgrace.
They ran out of food and water, and I felt very, very sad that President Trump was brought into this with that level of professionalism.
I believe that he, as the rightful president of the United States, deserved better than that.
And while I was there, I was told over and over and over again that this entire rally was to make the precinct delegates feel good and vote with the party, rather than the precinct delegates coming back and telling them what the constituents want.
It's a top-down management system, and it's really taking away the voice of the people, giving you a candidate that they say is Republican to vote for, but it is one that's selected and installed.
And then I can get into election integrity, too, because there's so many problems with this, it's not even funny.
Let's talk about election integrity before we get into my next question.
Well, the article that came out from Gateway Pundit was very interesting to me.
And it wasn't a few weeks ago that Nessel, our Attorney General, brought charges against 16 Republicans, and everybody here in the state of Michigan was throwing a fit.
Well, the problem is that they've been doing this for years.
The Republicans and the Democrats have been doing this for years.
So my question was, why now?
Why is she bringing this up now?
And why would she bring up 16 Republicans when the Democrat candidate allegedly won?
Why would she bring up something that she only has something to lose in?
And it didn't make sense.
And I'm like, there's way more to this than meets the eye.
And then the Gateway Pundit.
I get it.
And not only was I questioning the timing, none of these candidates, well there was one, only one of these people that she brought up on charges actually were voting or were representing President Trump and saying that we had to make sure the 2020 election was honest, which it is not. Only one of them stepped out on that.
For an election with integrity because we had so much failure, fraud, and maladministration that happened within that election.
They just wanted to sweep it under the carpet and walk past it and not right the wrongs that were done, which shocked me.
They did not stand up for President Trump and they did not stand up for election integrity.
So it was really perplexing to me.
So then this article comes out from the Gateway Pundit, and there was a man that was not really talked about.
It's Chris Kyla, who did most of the work behind us.
However, Phil O'Halloran came out and kind of took credit for it.
I wasn't real happy about that.
But the point being was that there's a company called GBI Strategies out of Tennessee was running out of several states.
There were six offices in Michigan and they were going out and collecting and registering voters for the 2020 election.
A.G. Nessel knew about this in October and started an investigation.
It started in Muskegon County.
There was a woman that turned in between 8,000 and 10,000 registrations.
And so they looked at that and said there's something wrong with that, which started an investigation with the Muskegon police.
And then that moved to the state police and then the FBI got involved in it.
But Nessel buried this and nobody knew that this was really going on.
And what really happened when the FBI got involved in it, they ended up doing a couple of raids in these raids at these locations.
They found weapons, they found different types of firearms and such, and paid cards and such.
These people had rental cards that were given to them, and they were being paid about $1,200 a week, plus, plus, plus on top of that, in order to collect these.
Well, it turned out that they were absolutely...
They were duplicates.
There were duplicates in there.
They were people that were same signatures, same addresses.
The addresses weren't checking out.
The phones weren't checking out.
None of them. So they were pretty much all of them fraudulent.
So going back to GBI, GBI out of Tennessee was working, and I'm going to give you some statistics here.
They were working, this company, this particular organization was, throughout the 2020 election, were working with The Democratic election committees and provided more than $4 million to GBI, which is shocking. They had $450,000 that went to Biden for president.
There was $2,117, $605 that went to Democratic senatorial campaign.
DNC Services Corps received over a million dollars, and the Democrat Party of Iowa was $493.
And $493,100 that this organization received.
So that should make everybody question what their motives were.
Why they were stacking the voter rolls.
Did these people show up in the voter rolls in the 2020 election?
And if you take the number that this gal actually registered in Muskegon, Ruth Johnson estimated that we're talking an 800,000 swing in the amount of registered voters and probably fraudulently registered.
Really shocking.
When you look at what President Trump and the rightful President of the United States, what they allege that he lost by, they allege that Biden won by 150,000 votes.
Well, if you just look at the state of Michigan and these numbers at 800,000, Michigan absolutely, with this kind of nonsense, could have flipped the vote.
They're talking... Fraudulent signature gathering, that sort of thing.
No, no, no, no. This is a matter of national security, and it's treason.
If this is at this level, if they can literally completely decimate the vote that quickly, they've gone for the wrong thing.
It's treason. Wow, wow.
I mean, this is like, you are not an investigator.
You are not an attorney general, right?
Nonetheless, you've done a lot of research that has uncovered this stuff.
Why is it that our governing bodies, the people that are supposed to be doing this as their profession seem to always fail on this topic?
They don't know. There's a big problem with people understanding what they're supposed to be doing or what their role is in government.
For example, the sheriff's office is supposed to deal with persons where the attorney general's office is supposed to be dealing with more of corporations and a business side of things.
All of the rules, the boundaries that keep things within a proper protocol have been knocked apart.
And what I think a lot of people don't understand is they want to make boogeyman all over the place.
Okay, we got this boogeyman here, look here, look here.
Nobody knows what's going on and they really don't know the processes or the rules.
It really was up to the legislature in order to stop the certification of this election.
And they abdicated their responsibility, gave it over to the Board of Canvassers, Board of Elections to approve it, and sat down and said, it's not us!
They walked away with it so that they didn't have to have any responsibility for actually doing something.
And realistically, every single person that's seated in the seat of the legislature, none of them fought for the 2020 election.
It was their responsibility.
And I'm sorry they can blame it on anybody that they want, but they're the ones to blame for the 2020 election being certified.
Wow, wow. Okay, so Donna, one of the most impressive things I think I've ever heard in my life, actually, is you saying a sentence which involves you shoveling shit from a horse and also being an entrepreneur, highly successful with so many businesses.
That was just mind-blowing. You know, opposing.
You don't hear that. You don't hear somebody talking about shoveling shit for horses.
And then, by the way, I own a bunch of businesses.
Hey, you know, YouTube knocked me out and I started a tech company.
I mean, that is one of the most impressive things ever.
Let's talk about that for a sec.
I love shoveling stalls.
It's great. Nobody wants the job, so nobody complains.
So it's a great job to have.
You just go in there, hang out with the horses.
I do a decent amount of horse rescue.
I had one horse that blew a tendon, which is harder to recover from than a broken leg, honestly.
And we kept him at Michigan State for an entire year, which Michigan State has a fabulous equine program.
So he was there.
And if he weren't as tough of a horse as he is, he's a stallion.
He would never have made it.
It was against all odds.
And they did some research on him.
I funded some research. And he's the first horse in the history of equine medicine to actually recover from the injury that he had.
And he trained every single veterinarian that went through the program during a year.
They did tell them that.
I have three breeding stallions.
I did have 17 horses, which is my favorite number, until January.
There were two of them we had to put down because they were at the end of their lives.
One of them had cancer and the other one had a very bad colic after three stomach surgeries.
We're down to 15 now.
Okay, let's talk about the other side of that.
Now, tech company, all the businesses you've started, your entrepreneurship, tell us a little bit about that.
I think I was wired that way.
The first business I ever started was I was that kid.
When I was younger, I was that kid.
So one day I got up and I think I was about eight years old and said, yep, I'm starting a bakery today.
So I went around the neighborhood and I sold about 40 dozen donuts.
I slapped the money down on the table in front of my mom and said, well, I'm starting a bakery today.
I had no idea how to make donuts, but we've made donuts and I delivered them.
And so I I've always had that mindset.
I come from an entrepreneurial family.
And so it was natural for me.
And I like to build.
The world is like a table full of Legos.
And you can look at problems.
And I love looking at problems.
And I love coming up with solutions.
And I'm never really as concerned much to the horror of most people around me.
About the money. I'm not really concerned with that.
I just like creating solutions.
Gateway Pundit said that I was a billionaire, which I laughed at because I clearly have never seen that financial statement.
The Gateway Pundit article, you've talked about it a little bit.
Could you tell us what that Gateway Pundit article actually reveals?
Well, it reveals, first of all, that there's a multi-state problem going on to rig the elections at the voter roll level.
So that is real clear.
And that they were paying people to fraudulently collect signatures and submit them.
There's also a deficiency in being able to decipher or determine whether those signatures are good or not.
And it hadn't been for that clerk over in Muskegon, they would have skated right on through.
And so she actually did do the right thing.
It is highlighting the fact that Nestle did not come forward with this at all, and they did it before the 2020 election.
This thing should have been stopped cold in its feet because there are so many problems and they just rammed it through.
That's what I saw with my cases.
They never told me.
They told the other candidates that there were problems with the signatures all the way back in March.
I didn't find out until May 23rd, and they had a hearing scheduled three days later.
I had to scramble to get an attorney.
I was never given a challenge, nothing.
Had they told me that in March, I would have had enough time to replace the signatures and do something different.
But they kind of ambushed me.
When you look at what they're doing, they're pushing all of the time frames so that they can honestly ram through these absentee ballots without having any way to check them because this is their MO. We're going to run the clock out and then, boom, pop something on them that they can't react to.
Well, it's too late.
We can't fix this.
Everybody gets voted off the island except for the ones that they want to play ball on.
Which are usually the ones that are in the money laundering game with them.
Michigan is a money laundering organization like this world has never seen.
And when you start looking at the dollars that they're laundering through the universities and through the foundations, it is shocking through the Chinese companies that are here.
Wow. I mean, that's flat out treason that you have Chinese companies that are invested in basically destroying our election process.
Absolutely. And in buying up our land, we have Lori Brock up in Michigan here has been dealing with Goshen up by Big Rapids.
And I've had her on my show on BNN, Brandenburg News Network a couple of times.
And I like Lori. She's a horse person too.
She has Friesians. I have Pasofinos.
So we always have stuff to talk about.
They started out with a very low number.
It's the same thing Ford's done or any of these large Corporations which have taken large grants.
We're funding all of this.
And they're telling us that they're going to give us 4,000 jobs.
Really? What are you going to do to hold them accountable?
There's no accountability. And look what happened with companies like Yellow Truck and some of the other ones that go under, which we have put a lot of money into a lot of these corporations and they just file bankruptcy and walk off with it.
And there's no accountability where the money goes.
Or the people to produce.
So Goshen started out as a 2,000 acre super facility.
And they've got it whittled down now because the people got together to start removing some of their councilmen and such and commissioners.
They're down to 250 acres but that's still a concern because Goshen is owned.
Any company that is a Chinese company Is owned by the CCP, make no mistake.
And they're buying up American land, doing whatever they want, threatening people in communities with lawsuits.
And I'm like, bring it. Go ahead and sue us.
We're going to hand your tail to you in court.
You can't intimidate us and you can't chase us back.
You want to fight? You'll get one.
Wow, wow. All right, so let's talk about the voter rolls, the issue with the voter rolls.
So we had a whistleblower that we interviewed a little while back, and what she was saying is that she recognized voter fraud in the early 90s, right?
And what she said, and she was very scared, by the way, when she was telling us this, because she thought, you know, she's giving us a secret sauce on how they're committing voter fraud.
All this fraud. And what she said is that between every election, what they do is they stuff the voter rolls, right?
So if you're running for office, you have the right to clean up the voter rolls.
She said the way you do that is that you take a sample size of the voters.
Let's say you choose like 5% of the voters.
You send them postcards with a return address, and you see how many of them are returned to sender, which then indicates that those people are no longer living at that location.
Then you start in Nevada, which is where our company's at.
You actually have to go a step further, which is you got to get affidavits from neighbors saying, you know, hey, that person doesn't live here, you know, as if like a return to sender's not enough.
They've made that, you know, unusually difficult in order to prove the voter fraud.
But there is a method, right?
So she said that they fill the, between elections, once somebody actually cleans the voter rolls, which is somebody that's running for office, it's their right to clean the voter rolls via this postcard process and by collecting affidavits from neighbors To prove that those individuals don't live there.
Then what they do between elections is that they stuff the voter rolls again with a bunch of fake addresses.
And the way they justify this, because that is a crime, a serious crime, but they say, oh, it's a clerical error.
They hide behind clerical errors, which is, it's funny because there seems to be a lot of clerical errors that lead to illegal things happening in our voting process.
And she said they've stopped the voter rolls so the next time the election comes they have all the buffer they need in order to create fake votes.
What do you think about that?
Well, it's true.
I mean, we had 300,000 that were removed from the voter rolls in Michigan, and Benson, our Secretary of State, put them back on again.
And these were people that were deceased and that were not matched up with their addresses and such.
We tried. And our Secretary of State, who has absolutely done the wrong thing on every single level, She put them back on again.
So if you don't have a Secretary of State that's going to actually fight for having an honest election, you're going to have to remove them.
The only way I can see to do it, because our court systems are rigged, is to start filing some pro se lawsuits.
So I'm putting a team together right now, and I'll be representing myself in these meetings.
And we're going to go after these people because you can't get a fair shake in the court system.
Do you have a legal background?
I do not. I've been in court enough times, let's put it that way, but I've got a nice team of people around me that like to write pro se cases.
And so I can talk.
So once I get the standing and all that established, then we can use existing cases in order to push that forward.
And on my Tuesday show, I have John Tater.
He's a military, ex-military guy, taught the Constitution and history, and he's an expert in pro se cases.
Also Lloyd Brunson and such.
So we have a lot of people that are willing to Put some help in this direction to go after.
And we need to go after the legislature because they're the ones that could have put a stop to this.
Yeah. You know, one of the things we talk about a lot on this series, and I'm sure the viewers are probably sick of hearing me say this, but I actually feel like this is the main reason why we're in the situation we're in, which is that the Bar Association controls two out of three branches of government.
They obviously control the judicial branch and all the lawyers underneath the judicial branch.
Then they also control Congress and the Senate because 75% plus of People, you know, politicians are actually bar agents.
And the reason I say bar agents is because they're swearing an oath to the bar as opposed to obeying and respecting their oath to the Constitution.
And it seems like they're all in cahoots one another because the legislature is supposed to hold these corrupt judges, these corrupt courts accountable, but doesn't do so.
It's almost providing protection.
And our checks and balances are completely gone.
What do you think about The issue with the Bar Association controlling two out of three branches of government.
It's completely out of control.
So when you look at Nessel, our Attorney General, she is in fact representing the Secretary of State, so there's a conflict of interest there.
So they're protecting each other.
And that's a big problem there.
And when you look at the Bar Association and what happened with the Bar and the Titles of Knowability, the original 13th Amendment, the whole 10 yards, there was a reason why we weren't supposed to have people who were attorneys or barristers or anything in place there.
So yeah, there's a huge problem there because they are subservient to the judges.
So you watch an attorney go into court and the judge will shut them right down because the judge can in fact, the judge really controls the attorney.
So the attorneys are marching to the judge's tune.
And I don't know if you know this, but the judges, the problem we have in Michigan is 98%, this is part of our problem in the court system, 98% of the cases that go into court get a judgment, a money judgment, and the reason for that is that there's an 18%, I believe it's 18% judgment or payment out of that that goes into the retirement account for the judges and the attorneys.
And so every time they get a judgment, a money judgment, they get 18% of that.
So it's absolutely backwards.
It's like the prison system. The prison system should never be privately owned.
Never. Because they're working on a quota system.
And so they're playing with people's lives instead of really trying to work.
They're trying to keep their quotas and the numbers in there.
And they get a cut of it all.
So it's based on money.
And when you put money in front of people and people's lives, you're wrong.
There's never a time you're right in that situation.
Yeah, and then you have things like, for example, you know, we do a lot of episodes on the family law industry, the, you know, children's CPS, you know, Children's Protective Services, and it seems as...
Biggest trafficker, right?
And it seems to go through bonds and our trust that they don't talk about, you know, the hundreds of millions of dollars in our trust, which they then collect bonds from.
There's actual incentives between Title IV or Title IV funding and a lot of the trust incentives to basically put people through the court process to kidnap and traffic children because each child, at the minimum, there's a $300,000 profit that happens.
And if you look at the maximum, I mean, each child is literally worth a million.
So they're incentivized to traffic.
They're incentivized to kidnap children.
They are incentivized to put children in abusive situations, all for the holy dollar, all for this Title IV funding.
By the way, Hillary Clinton's masterwork right there.
How do we let a system be created that benefits from our suffering and that equals their gain?
Well, it's crept in, you know, and I think the Founding Fathers had it right.
They were living under the tyranny that we're living in, and they gave us the plan on how to get out of it.
So we need to go back, and you go back by nullification.
So there's a standing, there's a case on the books, which is standing law, and it's called Norton v.
Shelby County. And with that, you can, in fact, what that actually says is that none of this exists.
None of it has the right to exist.
And on that one standing, every single three-letter agency that's not listed in the Constitution, which is pretty much all of them, should be nullified.
And we need to nullify all the way back.
The Constitution in Michigan, the Michigan Constitution of 1963, was illegally, unlawfully put in place.
It did not match up to the standards that were required in order to put that in place.
So when I'm talking nullification, I'm talking if we get one good governor in there, I pick me because I won't bend on this, we go back and we start nullifying all of this.
And any of these organizations, these entities which have trampled that, well, that don't exist under Norton versus Shelby County, they're immediately gone.
And then you keep nullifying back until you restore the rights of the people because that's what the Constitution was about, constraining the government.
It wasn't that the Constitution does not give us rights.
God Almighty gives us rights.
The Constitution ensures that those rights And unfortunately, the pond scum seems to find its way into positions of power in the government because that's all they do.
They move money around.
They try to benefit themselves.
They're actually not the sharpest tools in the shed from what I can see.
The ones I've talked to, I'm always shocked at, you know, what do they do best?
They move money around and they sit up in the Capitol and they drink and make deals, backroom deals with each other.
Yeah, yeah. Now, let me ask you this.
So, for anybody observing, you know, we had, like you said, the Titles of Nobility Act that was supposed to remove bar agents from our legislature in order for there to be actual checks and balances.
Prohibit them. It was to prohibit.
And the idea, well, obviously, was regular people, you know, like, you know, Priests, teachers, regular folks that are not bar agents, fill our legislature.
And that seems like you would have actually had balance of power.
But what happened then is that once we started pushing the idea of the 13th Amendment, a lot of things happened, like conspicuously the 13th Amendment disappears, copies of it are burned down in the White House in 1812.
It seems like there was an effort to essentially invade our country, reinvade our country by the bar, which is called the British Accreditation Registry.
In order to really recapture our government in these covert ways, kind of like what we're seeing today with China trying to capture our government in these covert ways.
It's pretty much an act of war, but it's not an act of physical war, right?
Firstly, do you agree that the bar is a cancer to American culture and American government?
And if you do agree that, does that mean that Britain, where the Bar Association is located in the city of London, is actually kind of like an enemy of ours still?
I would say that that's accurate.
I'd say that the bar should be absolutely eliminated.
And there's too many problems in it.
I think that we should go back to grand juries and do more common law.
Instead of these big money trials.
So this is one thing that always perplexes me.
You have to buy in order to get a copy of the law, which we have in fact ran through our courts, which we own and we should have access to.
Why is it that attorneys have to spend like $25,000 to $35,000 to have up-to-date copies of the standing laws on the books?
And we don't have access to them.
So they can go and look up and create, say, cases that those of us who are going to do pro se have to go through a little bit more work, but they make it very, very difficult for us to get that information.
And so we're basically beholden to go through these agencies and And it's kind of sad, but they've regulated us.
We can get into regulation, too, and how they create captured assets out of people in different industries and create cartels within the United States.
Our country is just rife with cartels.
Wow, wow. So, all right, so let's talk about this.
Now, you were mentioning that the green energy, wind energy, and how that is a scam, how that is a fraud, that is a way of essentially corrupting our government.
Can you tell us a little bit about what you've learned about green energy, wind energy?
Well, when I really started taking a look at this, because I always thought it was nonsense anyhow, when you're in business and you look at the regulation and look how absolutely stupid most of these regulators are, they have no idea how, you know, they'll write somebody up for like a chip of paint on something or a drop of paint on something, but they'll have wires hanging out of the ceiling that they miss that.
I've seen them do it. And so when, ask the question again, please.
Oh, so I was asking what you learned about green energy and wind energy and how that is really just a fraud masked as a conscious bill making or whatever.
So what happened is we own a large rail facility over in Illinois and our building is like 2,000 feet long.
It's obscenely large.
And we do unit trains in there and some other things.
So it's a rail services place.
We have done some commodities and that sort of thing, but we're on the UP's main line from Chicago to Los Angeles.
And I've got a funny story about that, too, with COVID when that happened, because I'll tell you that when we get down.
I'm a non-compliant kind of gal, right?
So it's like, yeah, no, heck no, hell no.
I decided to do an optimization project, so I went to the University of Western Illinois, Western Illinois University, and I said, can you give me some grad students?
And I want to look into several projects to see if we can optimize this train yard a little bit.
So they came over.
We had an attorney there and an attorney and our financial guy that they could work with so that we could actually have some real numbers and such.
So I gave them six ideas of what we could look into and one of them was wind energy because we have such a problem with the failed parts of the windmills.
You know, they're only good for about 20 years and then they fail 20 to 25 years.
The blades are made out of a composite material.
They cannot seal the nose cone with a coolant that's worse for the environment than Freon ever was.
There's so many problems with it.
It's incredible. I mean, I could sit here and give you a whole litany of things.
It's just nuts. It's about $2 million per windmill to pop those in the ground.
We can't get our money back on those ever, never.
You're losing 30% of the energy through the gathering lines in the In the ground as you gather the electricity from windmill to windmill to get in a transmission line to bring it to where people actually are.
And so it's a problem.
The composite material the blades are made out of cannot be broken down.
So what are you going to do with those?
So that's really what started me on this to see if we could figure out what something to do with these failed windmills.
Well, the more I got into it and saw this and saw the funding and how this was going, I realized that one of the biggest problems we have is that people don't really read the contracts and so they don't understand what they're getting into.
So, a company will go to say a farmer And say, hey, let's put up windmills.
You're going to make this amount of money.
Sure, you can farm around them.
It's going to be great. And the farmer goes, wow, this is great.
It's going to up my productivity of the land.
So they allow them to put a windmill in.
But what they're not telling them is that they haven't written in anything for remediation.
So what happens when that windmill fails?
The responsibility is on the landowner and the landowner has no idea how much that this is coming because they don't last forever.
In fact, they can't hold the brakes on these things out in Iowa.
These things are crumpling like potato chips, a lot of them.
So now what's the farmer going to do to remediate these These windmills probably sell the land because they're not going to be able to afford it.
And this is happening all over the place.
So my whole thing is you've got to kind of watch the contracts.
The gas companies do it too when they come to frack land.
Because we've worked on all the major plays in the...
In the United States.
And they'll write a contract for mineral rights and what they tell people.
And people a lot of times have never seen that type of money.
So they say, oh man, this is awesome.
But what they're not telling them is what's under the natural gas.
And we can go there too.
Natural gas and oil, they're naturally occurring substances and they are regenerative.
We will never run out of them.
Wow, wow. You know, it's funny because listening to you talk, I hear a very intelligent businesswoman, very in-depth thinking.
You're analyzing these things.
You're not trying to be a politician of propaganda.
You're actually analyzing the issues that exist with a lot of these things like green energy, things like voter fraud, voter irregularities.
What is it about our current culture, society, that highly intelligent people like you are not making into office, but then you have really sheep, really globalist stooges.
You use the word pond scum, which I think is a really good way to phrase it.
Why is there so much pond scum versus highly intelligent, deep thinking people like you?
I think it's easier for people just to sit back and believe the lies that people tell them because that's the way they want it to be instead of looking at things for what they are.
Let's take Disney, for example.
Disney, everybody loves the magic and the nostalgia of Disney until you find out that this is a woke company that's been brainwashing and I would allege grooming children for many, many years and having people...
in place which actually have pedophile type tweets that they put out when they get caught they disappear of course but thank god for the internet wayback machine because we can still find all that stuff we have to look at things for what they are not what they not what we want them to be what not what what gives us good feelings it's got to be a very logical thinking process what I saw when I ran for governor We had two candidates here
and it was like watching a Tiger Beat magazine for 16 year olds trying to decide who they like the best.
This is a job interview and if we want someone to manage this As an asset which we own, you have to look for the most qualified person to sit in that seat who has either experience or integrity.
Not just somebody that can stand up in front of a group and make friends out of everybody.
There's a time where you have to call things out and you're not going to be the favorite person sitting in the room As they're money laundering our assets away.
Or that we're at a 70% tax rate right now.
People don't understand that.
I don't want somebody to be friends with anyone that's taking that much money off of our people.
That's crazy. The tax structure is wrong.
And that's going to take somebody who's not afraid to stand up and do the right thing, regardless of the approval or the applause of the people that they're going after.
Yeah, yeah. And, you know, let's talk about the tech company again, which you had mentioned earlier.
So, you know, I just want to kind of get to the essence of somebody that gets kicked off of YouTube and decides to start their own company.
That is like a very gangsta...
Well, I had the tech company, but I had them create Brandenburg News Network, which was my replacement for YouTube.
It functions like YouTube.
I mean, that is just such a bold, courageous move to do.
It's almost like you've realized there's not anything that's impossible, and you are willing to run through walls to make the impossible possible.
Yeah, that's about true.
I mean, every time they hit me, I just take it as a challenge.
And, you know, I always say that when somebody hits me, it's like cocking the arm back and it's going to come forward.
One of my favorite sayings is, you know, I own horses, which means I can throw a metric ton of hay.
I own pitchforks and can take a kick from a half ton animal.
There's not a lot of that, you know, that is a problem for me.
Yeah, I mean, as a woman who is so capable, I mean, you kind of described such a wide spectrum there, you know, shoveling horse manure, and then running these companies, running these successful companies.
What do you tell to the woke individuals that are constantly, especially woke females?
You know, the Barbie movie just came out.
It's all about how males are bad, toxic masculinity, all that.
Victimhood, victimhood, victim.
But what do you say to those individuals?
I'm so done with this.
My whole thing is bring on the toxic masculinity because we need some more of that instead of little snowflakes that want to be placated, you know, like children.
It's time to grow up girls and act like adults and take care of business.
That's really what needs to happen and we need to support our men who are brave and selfless.
I can tell you right now, you know, my husband is an incredibly brave man and he's very selfless and he loves his family.
It's like when you stop having to be the center of attention all the time and can appreciate people for the God-given gifts that they have, the gifts that God gave them to be what they are.
I think that's really important to recognize people for what they are.
And I'm going to go ahead and say it, there are two genders.
I'm sorry, I'm a female, I'm a woman, and I've never been confused.
And I see the nonsense that's happening out there with the genital mutilation of children For people that are absolutely psychotic, I listened to a woman, I was about a couple weeks ago now, who was talking about transitioning, and she was sobbing.
She's detransitioning back into being a woman again, but she said, I have nothing.
She said, I had a double mastectomy, I had bottom surgery, and she said, I get up every day of my life knowing I have nothing.
She said, I am a shell, and I wished I would have just waited.
And so I think that that point can be proven out by seeing the rapid expansion in the facilities for these mutilation surgeries.
And it's about money.
And I said that from the beginning with that Dylan Mulvaney who was part of the Bud Light nonsense.
What my concern is, is if If this gentleman was actually, it seemed to me like they were taking advantage of somebody who really, it's kind of like a desperate cry for help.
Well, what happens when the attention goes away?
Then you've got a real problem.
And I tell you, I've got a little girl that I adopted years ago whose mom was killed in a train accident, very, very disabled, and has some problems with reality.
So I'm real familiar with mental illness and what it takes and the struggles that go through with that.
And one day we could have one issue that's the thing and the next day it can be a completely different thing.
But to take a three-year-old and give them hormones that are going to sterilize them, that are going to cut off parts of their body where they will never be able to enjoy You know, relations in the way that God intended them to be.
I mean, let's not be in denial over this.
God said, you know, increase and multiply.
Well, we all know what that means.
I don't think any of us need any coaching in that area.
And I think that it's a shame that people's bodies are being altered while they're children.
You know, you wouldn't give an 18-year-old...
You know, there's certain things that 18-year-olds can't do.
You can't drink until you're 18 years old in Michigan.
You're not supposed to anyway, but I'm sure most of the kids are drinking, right?
But parents can go and they can do this.
And what's worse is Proposal 3 gave the state of Michigan jurisdiction over our children and took away all parental rights.
So if your kid goes into a school and says, you know, I want to wear dresses.
Bam! They've got the right to take that child without the parent's permission and do a genital surgery on that child in their money-making, money-laundering transition centers which are just popping up everywhere.
Wow, wow. Taking away parental rights, I mean, let's talk about how that is a gross violation of the Constitution.
The way the Constitution reads, I believe, is you have the right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, and property is in there, right?
Property is actually children are actually property until they're 18.
That is the legal definition of a child.
How could they be infringing on your property according to what the Constitution says?
Well, how can they break all the laws they're breaking?
I mean, they're breaking all the laws. They're making up things as they go.
So I'm not surprised.
And you know, when you look at the amount of pedophile networks that are out there, how much human trafficking and pedophilia is going on, that's the reason why.
They have to have access to kids.
Point blank. That's what's going on.
Michigan has been quoted as number three in the nation for child trafficking.
And I can see why.
We have an international port here.
We have water. We have islands all around it, just like Epstein Island.
You have to look there and it's happening.
It happened there. It's happening all over the place.
That wasn't a one-off. And in fact, there was a gal, I think it was a couple months ago, she was at a party in Detroit and all of a sudden she disappeared.
And her friend got notification on that find a friend function on the phones.
And so she called the police and they located it into a container.
So they went and they found the container, went there.
The police refused to open the container up.
They found her body on the shores of Africa a couple of weeks later.
Wow. So it's really happening.
People have no idea how widespread the pedophilia and the human trafficking networks are.
And of course, they've got to be able to groom kids.
They've got to be able to separate them from parents so that they can pick them off, just like the Clintons did in Haiti.
Wow, and why do you think, pretty much the entire Democratic Party seems that they condone this sort of thing.
They cover it up, they condone it.
We saw things like Sound of Freedom, theaters being shut down, projectors not working, clear attempted censorship happening of that information.
Why is it that the Democrat Party has been so in cahoots with, I mean, these crimes against humanity, these horrors, what would be essentially just cause for trying and executing a lot of these individuals for treason?
Well, I think it's a complicated issue because we've had so much brainwashing over the years.
This didn't happen overnight.
And when you look at, say, the Marxist plan, I mean, the playbook's been there for a long, long time.
They've done this thing over and over again in order to break down the family, a moral structure to society, because that's how you ruin a country.
None of this is new.
This has all happened before and we allowed it to happen.
I think that this was over time.
We thought we were doing the right thing by being tolerant.
We wanted to accept people.
We wanted to love them. We didn't even realize that these people were using our emotions against us And taking it down one step at a time until you get to the position where parents have no say over their children.
Somebody can step in and take them, legally kidnap them, modify and mutilate their bodies, and then hand them back to the parents and say, it's your problem now.
Or the kid disappears into the trafficking networks and they never see him again.
Just like the COVID vaccine.
You know, they told a lot of people, take the COVID vaccine.
If you don't take it, you'll lose your job.
You'll be, you know, you'll be thrust out of society.
You will be seen as a bad person that's trying to kill old people.
Seems like it's the same sort of thing where they put all this guilt.
And then, you know, we interviewed a lady yesterday that...
After getting the Moderna vaccine, she actually got it because she wanted to go into the army.
And once she got it, she had three heart attacks, a mini stroke.
She wakes up every morning. She says every morning is kind of like Russian roulette.
You don't know how you're going to wake up.
You don't know if it's going to be one of those days which are...
Filled with excruciating pain is what she said.
And the army's not paying for her health needs, even though they essentially forced her to get.
That force meaning like, you don't have this job, you're destitute.
If you don't take it, take the job and you could have this job.
So, you know, what's going on there?
Well, I tell you, it paralyzed my mom.
So my mom called me one night at about 1.30 in the morning.
She's in an independent living center.
And she's like, I'm paralyzed.
I can't walk. And I said, what did you do?
Because I told her, I told her, don't get the vaccination.
Well, they lined them all up and they vaccinated them twice.
And that second time...
She was paralyzed. So she ended up being in the hospital and going to a rehab center.
But that's a whole other story.
When they first did the lockdowns, I was not okay with this right from the beginning.
So I went up to a couple of cops and I said, well, why don't you just arrest me right now?
Because I'm not going to comply.
So if we're going to do this, let's do this right now.
They would. They laughed at me.
So I got to try a little harder to get arrested for a righteous cause.
So what I did is for the real estate, I had everybody suit up and I said, okay, this is what we're going to do.
We're going to go around and we're going to check on all the tenants.
People are afraid. We don't know if they have food.
We don't know if they're okay.
So we went around and all of our people, everybody was kind of on the same page.
And so we went around and we just disinfected buildings and we stopped in and we talked to people and One of my friends had his son killed by fentanyl and it was an intentional murder.
And it was very sad. So I opened my barn up and we fed everybody that came and we would cook food all day for people.
And I'm like, I'm not scared to you.
You can come here and I would rather die together than push people off separate, cringing in the corners over the boogeyman.
So we were threatened by the Union Pacific, which is owned by BlackRock and in their faces, I don't care.
And so they said that they would not be delivering or allowing any trains on the switches off of the railroad unless everyone was a fully vaccinated facility.
And this pretty big facility, just so everybody knows, to put it in perspective.
And so the attorneys came to us and said, well, we got to get everybody vaccinated.
And I said, no, we won't.
And I looked at my husband and I looked back and I'm like, shut her down.
And they're like, shut her down. I said, we are not going to kill people.
And we are not going to force them to do things against their will.
If they can get the vaccine if they want, if they don't want to get it, it's not going to be us that's going to push it.
So magically, they found a way to get around it.
And everybody that was in that position as attorneys and such kept their jobs.
Wow, wow. All right, so statement.
Liberalism is the downfall of freedom and the downfall of Western civilization.
What do you think about that statement?
It certainly has contributed to it.
I don't believe that necessarily the correct term, I believe, is Marxism.
I'm calling it communal fascism because they hit us with an economic invasion by taking over all of our companies through the mergers, acquisitions, Through BlackRock, State Street Capital, Arabella, and all of that.
They own pretty much everything.
And this is a question I have.
Why hasn't anyone in a position of power gone after these companies with antitrust suits?
This is a perfect opportunity to break these things up.
Same thing with, say, the regulation and the cartels that are being put together that are a barrier for entry.
Why is it that no one goes after these companies which are involved with an economic takeover of our nation.
They regulate small companies into obscurity.
They've got a barrier for entry.
All of these things are wrong, and we have not only allowed it, we have had politicians that are in bed with them.
Take, for example, Jennifer Granholm.
A past governor of the state of Michigan.
Lousy governor, okay?
And she's now the Secretary of Energy.
The woman doesn't even know how many barrels of oil we use a day.
And she just made a $1.6 million gain on an EV stock trade.
I'm like, how is it that these people can sit in the seats and make that much money because they're selling favors and then they're doing insider trading, they're doing all sorts of things, but nobody can prosecute them because they can do it with impunity.
Wow. All right. So we talked about, essentially, woke feminism and how that is ultimately destructive.
Let's talk about, you know, you also mentioned the men.
You also mentioned a lot of men of honor are actually standing up to this nonsense.
But it's hard to say that the men have really stood up.
There seems to be an absence of men.
What do you say to the men out there that are allowing this stuff to happen, that are scared, that are silent, that are really doing nothing to fight this tyranny?
Hey guys, you know what? You're going to find out that there's a lot of real women that love our guys.
We love our husbands.
We love our sons.
We love our uncles and our brothers.
And we love our friends around us.
And you're going to find out that these snowflakes are going to absolutely melt when they see.
And not in a bad way.
I think that if the men step up and be those leaders, That are protecting the flock.
And I always find this funny because horses are the most like people of any animals on the planet.
And when you look at how horses function together, the stallions are the producing males.
And the stallions got two jobs, and that's pretty much it.
And the biggest job is to protect the herd.
And they're not somebody who's going to be argued with when there's a threat to the family through the The males in that herd step up and it's game on to protect the family.
And I just want to encourage everyone.
You're going to find out that there's so many of us that absolutely love you the way you are.
And that we appreciate your strength and your bravery.
You know, for a while I was watching videos of random acts of kindness and I was rapid fire watching these, right?
About 97% of the acts that were committed on those videos, they're men.
They're the men that will go into a burning building.
That's the men that will step in and jump into a We're good to go.
You know, there's a lot of misguided people out there, but there's a lot of us real women out there that, you know, that really appreciate the world the way God intended it to be.
Wow, wow. Donna, this has been an amazing interview.
Actually, rapid fire. I can't believe we've actually been talking for an hour.
Feels like we've been talking for 15 minutes.
Is there anything that we can talk about that's important to mention prior to closing the mic is yours?
You know what? I think the main thing is to keep our heads in the right direction.
So I think we're going to see some pretty hard times coming in front of us.
It looks like the banks are failing abysmally, and I've been told that it's going to be worse than 29.
So we need to get prepared.
We know when we can see the signs of the times, and we know that things are probably going to get a little bit tougher, we need to prepare not only for ourselves, but the people around us.
And that starts with mental toughness.
And, you know, it's like It's like, I'm first and foremost, you know, I'm a Christian.
I'm a believer in God and a believer in laying our lives down for the people around us in order to help our brothers and sisters around us.
And that means everyone that God's created is, you know, we have a responsibility for our communities, for our families and such.
So get prepared. But prepare mentally for this and realize that God is in control.
He's always in control.
He wins every time.
None of this is a mystery to Him.
None of this is a mystery to Him.
So we can rely on God.
We can trust God. God is always good all the time.
He always wants your best good and the best good of everyone around Him.
And we can, in fact, trust Him.
So get in your Bible. Look through scripture and read all the encouragements that are there and know that you weren't a mistake.
There's many of us out there who appreciate you and will appreciate you just exactly as you are.
None of us are perfect.
So we need to embrace each other and say, you know what, if you hold my hand and I hold your hand and we can make it up these tough mountains together, but we're going to have to be a little tolerant of each other and we're going to have to push past some of the things that we're used to, you know, used to having around us and used to being, and put people to the forefront of your life.
And you'll find your purpose.
And you'll have that strength by going to God.
He'll give you the strength to make it through anything.
And we're going to do this together.
And it's going to be an adventure that we'll never forget.
We'll find friends that we didn't know we had.
And it will be a glorious, wonderful time.
Wow, wow. You know, I'm inspired to read a quick text here because this was actually so inspiring.
I'm looking down at my phone here.
I was having a conversation with Michael Yan, right?
He's an investigative journalist that has been at the border.
He's traveled to 93 different countries, a lot of war zones.
And so I wrote to him today.
I said, you know, I was referring to the text.
So I said, cool, bro.
Are you going to the Liberty Awards in Austin, right?
And his response to me is because he's at the border, by the way, with Ann Vander Steele right now covering what's happening.
And he sent this amazing footage.
I mean, heartbreaking footage of dead people at the border, cartels shooting at him, pointing laser lights at him in order to blind him while they are literally on the border Filming what is really going on, right?
So I say, are you going to Liberty Awards in Austin?
His response to me is, no chance.
I am on the border doing Liberty stuff.
Awards are for after the war.
That's a great quote.
Anything that we win when we go through that, we should be laying at the feet of Jesus anyway and not taking credit for it and finding a new adventure to go on in order to be helpful for others around us and to solve more problems.
Wow, wow. Donna, this is amazing.
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