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Oct. 1, 2023 - Blood Money
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AMERICA IS IN TROUBLE w/ General HOLT and Liberty Warrior Nation
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So, let's get started.
We're actually skipping over 136 because we rescheduled that for tomorrow.
But yo, 136, 137 attempts at waking up the people.
Today we have General Holt and L.W. on our Blood Money episode, a very special Blood Money episode.
And the topic we are talking about is America is in trouble.
So could we bring in our very special guest, please?
L.W., how you doing, sir?
Good. Doing well, Van. Thanks for the invite.
Glad to be here tonight. Thank you.
Thank you for coming on. General Holt, how are you doing?
Van, it's a pleasure to be with you and Mike.
Can't think of a place I'd rather be broadcasting this evening.
This is a great show.
Really awesome to have you guys.
Real quickly, LW does our amazing morning show on America Happens called Devotions with LW.
So I wanted to mention that.
Guys, I'm so excited to have you on the show.
The topic of this episode is America is in Trouble.
And let's just dive right into it.
General Holt, I was watching some footage of you, and you made the statement.
And I know we're going right into it here, but we'll circle back to some other topics.
But first I want to talk about the statement, we are at war.
We absolutely are at war.
And I think most of America knows this by now.
People feel it instinctually.
People know things are not quite right.
They just can't put a finger on it.
But, you know, we were raised to believe that war involved bunkers and bullets and bombs.
And it does if you're sitting in Ukraine right now.
But there's another concept of war.
It's called fifth generational warfare, a hybrid warfare.
And this is the type we've been front row seated to now for nearly decades, quite honestly.
When you look at this slow degradation of our liberties, this slow pull away of our rights, and the folks in D.C., whether they're on one side of the aisle or another, very drunk with power, very beholden not to we the people, but to K Street and Wall Street.
And now that war has gone to what I would call a civil war, almost a cold war that involves lawfare.
You see somebody who's a target, you sue them, you sue their brains out, you bankrupt them, you get them out of the field of play.
And we see it going back and forth.
And right now, the most prolific example is their, what is it, ninth, tenth attempt to take down President Trump, who...
My goodness, what stamina for that guy to just hang in there and just keep taking these blows, but he keeps fighting back.
And what that does is it just wakes up more and more Americans, even my liberal friends, to say, something's not right with our nation.
What is this? What's going on?
I mean, the question I got to ask is, you're in the military, right?
I was. Now, what is going on there in terms of, isn't the military supposed to stop what seems like a really high level of treason happening within our country, where you have politicians essentially serving the World Economic Forum and their desire to get into this one world government, one world currency? Yep, these are excellent questions.
So let's talk about the military a little bit.
You have a military that from first striper, private, all the way up to two-star general, it was a meritocracy, meaning you have to be your best, compete against peers, there's boards, and if you're the best, then you go on to the next thing.
But the three- and the four-star level, those are political appointed positions.
You must be nominated by the president, confirmed by the Senate, and what that creates is a culture that is beholden to an administration What I would argue is, over time, and this didn't happen overnight, but over time, the oath of office that we all take, that most veterans, all 17 million of us, hold very dear and without expiration, is that we swear our allegiance to the Constitution, not a person or an administration, against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
And where I think some folks, quite a few folks, quite honestly, have lost their way is that they believe they have to serve their masters, the human beings, first and the political agendas that come with.
We see this in terms of policies that are woke, DEI, get rid of the meritocracy, let's go ahead and worship at the altar of LGBTQ +, the vax policy, and then look at the horrendous defeat In Afghanistan, 20 years after all of us put our blood, soul, families, and everything else and limbs and treasure and blood into it.
It's insanity. I mean, where does it go from here?
Like, let's say Trump does get indicted.
Let's say they throw the man in jail.
I mean, what do you think happens next?
You know, quite candidly, my opinion right now is he'll be the president from jail.
It might be very historic, but I liken this to the movie Get Shorty.
The deep state is real.
They've proven that over the last three years.
There's no question. It's not even tinfoil hat stuff.
I don't even bring my foil to these interviews anymore.
It's out there for all of us to see.
And it's this uniparty thing.
The uniparty is real.
You've got Democrats, most of them Marxists, so I'll just be quite blunt and direct.
And then you've got rhinos on the other side of them.
Who are complicit because they want to keep the status quo.
They want to keep the power structure.
Power resides in DC for DC. And this is a government of the lobbyists, for the lobbyists, by the lobbyists.
And they are put there.
They buy these politicians and they expect to keep those politicians.
Well, what that means is they're pitted against we the people.
And we the people are the ones who are supposed to be self-governed.
And somewhere in there, they've lost the idea that they work for us.
Instead, we're just scurrying around saying, gosh, I hope they don't come after me.
And that's what I call a cold civil war is really all about.
If Trump fails here, what's to stop them from rolling up every single right in the book you have Making you pay for lawyers you couldn't possibly afford and ruining your life if you get out of line.
And then when you add in all the things that are happening above their level, the enemies I spoke of, these multinational organizations that are unelected like the UN, the World Economic Forum, people who quite frankly have just put themselves into this place where they've decided what's best for us, Whether they're elected or not, and they're not, and that they expect to get away with that.
Well, the cool thing about the American people is they don't suffer fools for very long.
And if you disrupt American life for too long, which they have, I think you start to see the signs of pushback.
I certainly am optimistic and I see it happening right now.
I mean, how does that happen, though?
What is the pushback?
Where is it that there's enough of a sea change to essentially beat this insane tidal wave of corruption that we're seeing?
Yeah, so it's so frustrating because what we would like to see is that something happens in DC, it implodes on itself, somebody wins a landmark case and all of a sudden everything is right and we're living happily ever after.
Unfortunately, it's just not going to be that way.
The way that it's going to be, and I'm seeing it across the nation, is you have sheriffs.
Let's start there. Sorry, sorry.
Your audio is becoming a little muffled.
I don't know if you're covering the audio input area.
How do you hear me? Okay. You have sheriffs and they have a constitutional role in this country and they're all waking up to understand what that is and the people are helping them understand that.
At my organization Restore Liberty, we are helping them with that.
You see municipalities that are starting to recall and take out school boards.
They're taking out state representatives.
This is painfully slow.
It requires patience. But what happens is, at the local and state levels, as we start to take back our government's demand for free and fair elections, that bubbles up to D.C. in a meaningful way.
It doesn't mean we shouldn't melt the switchboards of the congressmen and the senators every day.
It just means that That's a very tough wall of granite to crack.
We should spend our time locally and writing our own communities, which I do see in many different communities.
Even the ones that called themselves previously Democrat have now decided, you can't tax me into oblivion.
I actually do want a gun to defend myself, and I'm going to insist that you don't take my property away from me.
Yeah, yeah. Punishment.
I mean, we have... Quite a number of individuals that have, I mean, just broken a multitude of laws and ironic that they keep going after Trump.
But you got people that, for example, you know, have enough fentanyl in their trunk to kill 10 million Americans that are let out on bail, like just ridiculous, destructive policies.
And on top of that, you have people that are flat out committing treason that are against our way of life, against our Constitution, that are trying to bring foreign ideas into this country.
Is there for these individuals?
There absolutely is.
This is why you see, Van, so much energy behind the Get Trump movement.
The deep state, these agencies, they all have this vested interest.
They don't even care what it looks like anymore.
We're going to bring a SWAT team to Mar-a-Lago.
We're going to look beyond Vice President Biden at the time putting classified into a garage.
We're going to do whatever it takes to stop this guy because if President Trump becomes president again, The amount of accountability that's going to flood this country will be profound.
We're not talking, in my view, about hundreds of people facing treasonous charges.
We're talking about thousands upon thousands.
And this is why they are coming on with every single thing they have, regardless of the optics, because they understand what that day looks like if he is put back into the White House by the people.
I'm curious, if you don't mind, LW, on your show, you get to interact with a lot of Americans out there.
I noticed that especially in the chat rooms, they're very vocal.
What is the message you're getting in terms of where the volume is currently?
What is the mood out there overall?
Well, my background is first two years, especially when the lockdown happened, we were all in our houses doing nothing.
I spent two years on the internet, behind the camera, behind the mic, got to know a lot of people on the internet.
And yes, we're all like-minded.
You can see them in the chat right now.
And then the chat is buzzing.
But then I had the opportunity to go back out into what I call the real world.
I went back out and started working a full-time job.
I'll tell you what the volume is there and what's being said.
These people are pissed off.
These are red-blooded, white and blue-collar Americans.
They're pissed.
They are seeing the corruption unfold before their very eyes.
They are seeing the weaponization of government agencies going after a witch hunt on Donald Trump and other conservatives You can talk about the IRS agents and going after conservative people for taxes I mean it just goes on and on and on and on and on and frankly They're fed up and then they start they start seeing where it even involves even more than that with the corruption in the White House and the Hunter Biden the cocaine ordeal that's going on right now
People are pissed and they are fed up with what's going on.
Now, where do we go from there?
I continue to educate people and really try to inform them on the legal way of doing this, and I think the general hit a very important point there.
A lot of it starts right in our own backyard with our elected sheriff.
He has more power than pretty much any person in your county, and I don't think a lot of people realize that in the working world.
As far as the Internet, I think we're all educated, but I'm telling you, these people are hungry for information.
They're not idiots. They're seeing what's going on. You can have good conversation with them.
You have the opportunity to really—I focus on policies and not in some of the other darker areas, because I think it's important for them to see the failures of this current administration and all the success that we had the four years with Donald Trump and the next four years with Donald Trump that we're going to have that success.
I mean, you guys know about how far the deep state will go.
I mean, you know, is there a chance that they're even going to let him into office?
Because I get the feeling that they will they're going to try everything lawfare wise.
And by the way, we've seen that also happen to people that are personalities on the Internet.
We're talking to a gentleman that, you know, he doesn't even have that much of a following and they're attacking him legally.
So that's happening on a wholesale level.
Right. But Do you think that they will allow Donald Trump to stay alive long enough to get into the office?
I mean, I know that's a morbid question, but we all know how serious they are about not allowing him to become president.
Yeah, I would say we better pray they do.
We better pray. So let's think about that for a second.
If they have such a vested interest in eliminating President Trump, In terms of taking him out by assassination, I think they would have already done such a thing.
I think it would have already been achieved.
Why go to all this lawfare?
Why have such a thing happen if you could produce a John Hinckley type guy on a grassy knoll and go get him?
I think the president is well protected.
I think there are things happening probably in and around him that keep him safe and protected.
And it's not just people here in this country that want to go get him.
You've got the transnationalists, the globalists.
They all make billions of dollars all over the world because of the corruption That we see, and it's all U.S. taxpayer money.
It's our money. I mean, there's some European tax dollars in there, too.
But I think we're at a critical crossroads where the country and the people themselves are going to have to decide where we can go.
Now, President Trump is at the head of a movement if for some terrible reason that he weren't with us or he wasn't able to be with us.
That position will get filled.
I don't think it gets filled with anybody who's in the current field trying to be the next president of the United States.
But what I'm very confident of is he has, and his resilience and his toughness, he has inspired many patriots to stand into the breach.
And to stand up and say, I won't tolerate this.
I won't have this.
And that happens locally, but it can also happen at the federal level.
And I believe there are folks yet to come out of the shadows that will present themselves who have probably played a meaningful role into what is probably going to come next.
What's your feelings about the elections?
Yeah, so this is a big question.
They have to be cleaned up immediately.
You've got a couple of ways to go here.
You have to find a way to clean up the elections.
The Supreme Court did not help us out very much when they ruled that the state legislatures, as is outlined in the Constitution, are not really responsible for their elections, that they can be babysat by their judiciaries.
That's bad. So then does the Republican Party then go back And start to play the same exact game that the Dems play.
Well, the virtuous part of me and the integrity ethical part of me would say, oh, no, let's not stoop to their level.
Hey, look, this is our kids and our grandkids we're talking about.
And if the ground rules are and they're going to introduce some contagion like a pandemic, a cyber attack or whatever, to make some argument about ballot boxes and whatever nonsense comes next.
Well, whatever it's going to be, the Republicans are going to have to hold their nose and play the same game.
Whatever they see the other team doing, they're going to have to do the same.
So it could be that you see some presidential election where 475 million votes trumped 500 million votes because it just got nuts.
But it does shake us down to the realization that, you know, if you think that we're not a banana republic or very far from it, you better go think again.
Because these are real questions and election integrity in every single state right now better be at the top of everybody's list.
What's the role that the bar serves in all this corruption?
That's a great question. The bar is a very left-leaning liberal organization that's willing to take out licenses for simply representing the president or a conservative.
That then the American Bar Association comes in and starts to say, ah, it's just like what we saw in COVID with, oh, you don't want to get on board with the vax or you don't want to get on board with the popular Fauci line of the day.
Well, then the AMA will take you out and take your credentials and delist you and cancel you.
This is part of the deep state.
They may not be governmental, but they're just as incidental and they're just as corrupt as everybody else is.
You'll see a lot of different groups.
They'll go, well, trust the plan.
It's all going to change. The military is going to come in and change things.
No, they're not. Nobody's coming.
Nobody's coming. It's us.
It's us. So don't sit in your recliner.
Don't go shopping. Don't think that all this will sort itself out.
Go grab a pitchfork.
Get your butt down to your city hall and start getting active and start pushing back.
Write a letter to the editor.
Do something. Whatever it's going to be.
Host a party at your house.
But I don't want to be a member of the generation that failed our founders.
I don't want to be a member of the generation that failed our grandkids.
I mean, all right, so two branches of our government are essentially controlled by bar agents, aka attorneys, esquires, but nonetheless, they're bar agents.
I mean, how do you have balance of power?
How do you have checks and balances when two branches of your government are controlled by bar agents?
Yeah, so what you have to start, we've got to do term limits.
I mean, we absolutely have got to get to a constitutional convention in this country, or we're going to have to do it through the Congress, but Term limits are something that we the people are going to have to insist on.
We absolutely have to.
What happens is we've been cut out of the deal, meaning we the people.
The lobbyists, Big business, and I mean massive business, too big to fail business and banks, those are the ones that are represented by government.
It's not us. And yet we're footing the bill.
And we're footing the bill more than just paying our taxpayer dollars.
Now we get to watch these globalist clowns These Marxists say, no, ESG and the climate are more important than your 401, so we know we're entrusted to invest your 401, but we're going to make it in all these really poor, crappy, carbon-sensitive investments, even though windmills are killing animals.
We're going to do that. And so we're the patsies.
We're the rubes in the equation.
And that's what we've got to come together in our communities and decide, no, we're going to stop now.
And we can't.
We have that power. We have the ability to stop that.
We could do it on a convention of states.
That's not an endorsement for the national organization that supports that.
We could do it that way through the Constitution.
We can melt down the switchboards.
We can start recall elections.
But when we've had enough pain, Meaning the economy is gone.
They want to control us through the currency.
They want to take away our land.
You will own nothing. You will like it.
When we've had enough pain, I guarantee you that the one thing that the elites do not understand and do not know is the American people.
You know, none of them. I said this at the Council on Foreign Relations when I was a military fellow there.
I was having a discussion with what I would consider to be a very elite person in the globalist scheme of things.
And I said, you know where it's all going to go wrong for you is that you don't really have a sense of America.
You have more in common with folks in London, Rome and Paris and Tokyo than you do with anybody here.
You don't know why it's important for us to go to a Friday night high school football game.
You have no idea why we might gather in a church on a Sunday and have a picnic afterwards.
You don't You don't have an appreciation for the power of we.
And we do like those things.
But when you start to dismantle our way of life, eventually, we'll take notice.
And that's where I think we are.
We're interviewing.
So we have a Blood Money episode.
Occurring today that we actually filmed, it's coming up now tomorrow, with a lady by the name of Catherine Hine, who's a former, she calls herself a former bar agent because she actually left that business after coming to the conclusion that it was all essentially deep state control, that nothing of justice interests happened within those courts, that they were really a for-profit mechanism.
And she said, this is their monopoly game.
We're never going to be able to fix their own monopoly game that is literally built to take advantage of we the people and make them a profit mechanism regardless of the destruction that's caused.
And in fact, the profit mechanism occurs when the destruction is caused.
And the more destruction, the more profit.
So she said it's all about creating parallel systems.
That by law, we have the rights to create our own common law courts.
And do a lot of other infrastructural things and pretty much have a parallel system, which, you know, then everybody could see, hey, you know, those U.S. corporate courts are actually, you know, a way to drain me.
And I'd rather go to this common law court set up by We The People.
What do you think about that kind of an approach?
I think that's a great approach.
In my own local community, there are a really great group of leaders.
They're not elected. Well, one is elected, but they're not elected for the most part.
And they all have specialties.
And we get together and we talk about the parallel system.
So you take away the banking and finance system.
Suddenly I raise an A system that's air-gapped from the internet that can transact with today's current technologies, be it blockchain or whatever.
We get a participating bank.
We have hard assets put someplace.
We all agree to mechanisms of transaction and we start to make the community healthy again.
We have our sheriff who protects us.
We start to come together as a community and we isolate ourselves from the nonsense and we don't participate and we don't comply.
Don't comply is a very big word here.
If five or six people don't comply, you've got a real problem.
If 200 million people don't comply, now you're in a really good position and this is what they're terrified of.
So I think what you should look at is as more and more people wake up, these types of systems across the nation will mushroom up.
But more importantly, I think the bad guys will start to see communications As the thing that they need to drop.
That's why there's so much interest in them right now for knocking out your First Amendment rights, because they're starting to understand that we the people, we get organized, we start communicating.
But they're too late to the table.
We don't need their 4G, their 5G. We don't need their space.
There's many, many different ways for us to communicate.
And at Restore Liberty, and I'll plug it right now, restore-liberty.org, please come see us.
But what we do at Restore Liberty is we teach about the Constitution.
We teach about what we, the people, can do in these systems.
And we advocate for a constitutional sanctuary where we don't Literally don't comply.
So now let's get to the idea of Article 5 in the Constitution.
If we bypass D.C. and enough states, 32 of them, came together and said, let's have a Constitution and talk about some new rules.
It doesn't mean you've blown up a Constitution.
You haven't thrown it away. It means you can propose like-minded amendments to an agenda.
And what we can do is we can repeal the 16th Amendment and say, we're not going to pay for this anymore.
That's your taxation system and you're not going to control us through that.
We could say term limits are going to be around.
And what I'm mostly interested in exploring is, listen, federal government, you hang your hat on the Interstate Commerce Clause and the Supremacy Clause, that they trump the Tenth Amendment, which is the amendment that protects state sovereignty.
Those things should not be recognized as the law of the land over the Tenth Amendment because currently the federal government is in breach of Article 4, Section 4, the responsibility to provide security for the United States.
Anybody know about the southern border?
Article 1, Section 8, when's the last time Congress made its own budget?
Article 2, Section 2, free and fair elections.
Is that what we have? So, and on and on and on.
So, if they're in breach, we don't need to secede as a state or break up the union.
What we can say is, you know what?
You're in breach.
We'll have the Tenth Amendment as the law of our state until such time that you're back in compliance with the Constitution.
And I would support any governor that went down the line of wanting a constitutional sanctuary.
Moreover, Recalling the state's delegation to the federal government until such time that they're going to be in compliance with the United States Constitution.
You would say that, okay, Blaine, that's crazy talk.
Well, hold on. Take me back to one month before COVID hit, March of 2019, and any of these events that has happened over the last three years, you would say are crazy talk.
But it's getting crazier and crazier.
And then on the world stage, it's getting more dangerous and more dangerous and more dangerous.
And by the way, these clowns want World War III. That covers up for a lot of crimes.
And so we should start pulling the money from that as soon as we possibly can.
I mean, a general saying, we are at war, we are at civil war, I mean, that is a pretty extreme statement that usually does not come from the mouths of generals.
Well, I'm not a cocktail party general, that's one.
Two, I'm actually a real war, I've been in real wars, and I've led real people, and I care deeply about my oath.
I'm a strategist, and this strategist is telling you there is a such thing as hybrid warfare.
It does not require bullets, bacon, beans.
It requires fiber optics.
It requires GPS. It requires cyber, psyops.
It requires infiltration, corruption.
It requires co-opting.
Do any of these things sound familiar?
So yes, this is what America's newest Civil War looks like.
If you're looking for an Antietam or a Vicksburg or a Gettysburg, you're not going to find one.
It's not going to happen. You're just not going to get there.
But if you look at what's happening in the swamp, You will see that this war is very real.
They play for keeps. They play with money.
And if you get in the way, well, they'll go make time for you too.
And we have seen people be disappeared.
We have seen people be thrown into jail as political prisoners, watching their Fifth and Sixth Amendment rights be vaporized.
And that's the America that we're in right now.
And saying anything else is just, quite frankly, dishonest.
And I'm not going to be dishonest.
I mean, let's talk a little bit about this fifth-generational warfare.
I mean, give us examples.
We hear about it all the time.
We were talking about an example actually before we got on this podcast, but what does that look like for the viewers out there?
Yeah, so what it can look like is...
Suddenly, all of your financial records and everything you did privately up until a minute ago are out there on the web and there's nothing you can do about it.
Suddenly, the election results of a particular precinct in a swing state where this one county really mattered.
The voting was shut down at 3 in the morning and the votes all went a different way.
Suddenly, we were told that if you are a vax denier, then you should be taken off of the web and that's okay.
You have to look away from the fact that the Chinese are bringing in fighting-age men into our nation by the hundreds of thousands in an unprotected border.
You have to look away from the fact that they're killing 100,000 Americans every single year Which is, last I checked, an act of war as they're in conjunction and in cahoots with the drug cartels of Mexico and those in D.C. for whatever their motivations look the other way.
What we need to do is we need to throw away the concept of tinfoil hats.
We need to be alert. We need to understand all of the different elements.
If anybody doesn't mind reading about a 90-page book from 1999, Chinese two colonels wrote this book called Unrestricted Warfare.
You can learn all about it. Fifth generation warfare right there.
I read it the day it came out.
And that is the Chinese preference for warfare, but it's also the preference for warfare of these transnational organizations, the WHO that wants to usurp all of your sovereignty here in the United States over extreme medical issues, the shoving down your throat of this climate cult.
You know, the climate crap is really pretty interesting.
When all of these very rich people give up their seafront homes and sell them at pennies on the dollars at Martha's Vineyard and on the cliffs of California, I'll get real interested in paying attention to what their story is.
But for right now, these foie gras sucking Private jet flying folks who don't want to be exposed, they seem to have a whole lot on their mind about how many bugs you should eat and what kind of food you can consume and when to take away farms, 3,000 in the Netherlands that are starting to take away Americans.
That's hybrid warfare.
That's what that looks like. That's what this is.
And it's really okay for all Americans to go, aha, I get it.
This is hybrid warfare. You're attacking me.
Okay, what am I going to do about it?
Let me talk to my elected officials and start to be a real pain in the butt because this isn't the American way of life.
This is not the constitution we were given and it's not ornamental.
Well, W, you got your ear to the ground.
We're talking about civil war, we're talking about we're in a state of war.
Is there a chance, in your opinion, based upon speaking to folks out there, that this could actually become violent?
There could actually be a physical civil war or anything that is, I guess, unrest and violence?
Well, our founding father said that, you know, the Constitution, everything needs to be renewed at times.
And, you know, the Liberty Tree, which is what General Holt here and Colonel Gobb is all about, the Liberty Tree sometimes needs to be renewed by the blood of not just patriots but tyrants as well.
So I am working very close-knit with the union.
And we all know that the union are heavy supporters of Democrats.
They always have been, always will be.
But let me let you guys in on a little secret.
They're pissed. And I can tell you, these good old boys, they're seeing what's going on with the current administration, and they're not happy about it.
Do I think it could lead to something kinetic?
I think there's some people out there that do feel like if the cancer is so deep and America is at a point of failure, that they feel like they might have to take things into their own hands.
Do I condone that?
Absolutely not. I believe that the general here, and we've been talking about it for a long time on LWN, The way of going about this in your local areas, your sheriffs, and going to your representatives and being a pain in the butt, and being plugged in and being active.
I think that is the path at this point.
Can that path ever change?
I'm not a military expert.
I couldn't tell you yes, but I can tell you there are some people out there that are so upset with the direction this country is going, and these are supporters of Democrats.
And they are not happy with the direction of this country.
The gas prices hit $4 a gallon again here.
Inflation, hyperinflation.
This digital currency is scaring the hell out of Democrats right now.
And it's nothing that we should turn a blind eye to.
The general is correct. We should be paying attention.
We should be educating people on all this stuff and letting our neighbors, our friends, our family know, hey, this is what's going on in America.
And we really need to stand together.
I really believe in unity because if we don't stand together and they continue to divide us through sex, religion, politics, income, all that stuff, that's the way that you control a country is by division.
Divide and conquer.
I mean, the general could probably tell you that.
It's crazy. So let me ask you this.
In terms of Avoiding a kinetic situation, avoiding violence, is there a pathway in the current climate for really to avoid something of that kind where things get kinetic, especially with what's happening with Donald Trump, especially with the continued persecution?
I mean, how do you prevent something like that?
Yeah, I've thought about that a lot because we're on a bad path and it's a dangerous path and it's one that I think that, you know, we've got to pay a great deal of attention to.
In my view, it is incredibly important that you are heard and you, in your community, get your community organized around the idea of making meaningful communications to your Congressman or woman and your senator.
You have got to do that now.
In fact, it has to be at a level.
I don't care whether they're your favorite conservative or that they're an outright Marxist who thinks Somalia is a better country than the United States.
It doesn't matter.
They have to feel existential heat from their constituencies now that not only do we disapprove, But that we see violence over the horizon.
And we are going to insist that if they don't start to right the ship, that we're going to now come together as a nation and we're going to start recall elections and get rid of them.
And the professional... The professional politician goes away.
We talk a lot about these parallel systems and plans, Van.
I think that that's a thing that we can't...
We've got to keep stressing that.
These parallel systems also have the ability To make impacts in elected officials who thought they were safe by fraudulent election systems and all of that.
And an example would be, suppose we had a big event and the community knew that if we have a big event and communications are compromised, I just know that I've got to get to the municipal park or wherever.
And community leaders will all organize and stand up.
And then let's say that the mayor comes in and says, you people will disband immediately.
This is an illegal protest.
The park could, the folks who are there could make sure they have the right numbers of people and have an immediate recall election.
You know, we saw this in Colorado with several school boards.
There's no reason why this can't happen at the federal level.
There is no reason and there is no rule that says your congressman has to stay in DC and has the right to.
They don't. They don't.
They serve at your pleasure. And I love it how they call themselves leaders and honorable.
They're neither. Most of them are neither.
And I certainly don't see them as leaders.
They're servants. So act like it.
So getting a mass of people together to say, you know, we're kind of done with you.
And in good times, maybe we could tolerate your existence in that seat.
But right now, if I have the choice between an America that's going to go into some sort of violent civil war or be attacked by a foreign power, or I've got to get your corrupt I know which one I'm taking.
And that's your peaceful path is to get these people either motivated to do the right thing or they're gone.
Or they're just going to be gone.
You know, there's a statement that you made earlier.
Again, you know, like the statement that I pointed out where you were saying we are at war, we have a civil war going on.
I mean, these are big words coming out of a general's mouth.
I mean, if I say that, it's one thing, but there's a lot more weight when it comes out of a general's mouth.
And then you mentioned murder basically by deep state, that they're offing people, they're disappearing people.
I mean, Again, something that you don't hear from a general.
Tell me about that.
To what degree is that happening?
How many of the conspiracy theories out there are actually accurate, in your opinion?
Yeah, so, I mean, that's the hard thing.
When you have folks who are really lit up by any amount of information that they can get anywhere on the web to say, oh, I know that this thing is going on, but it's unverified.
I know that this thing is going on, but it's unverified.
What we all have to do is we've got to really stick to hard, proven, verifiable, corroborated facts because the deep state, these folks, they delight anytime somebody bites off on something and goes off on a tangent because they're like, look at these crazy people.
And it discredits real, legitimate concern for our country.
So the biggest evidence of that in the last couple of weeks was you saw the Biden indictments.
I wish that was kind of happening.
You saw Freudian slip there.
Sorry. You saw the Biden information coming out and some of this damning testimony coming out.
What do we do? We get right onto the UFOs.
And I, as an Air Force officer, people, and I'm a pilot of 30 years, people come to me and they'll go, hey, is that what's happening?
Is there UFOs?
Do we have aliens somewhere autopsied or something like that?
And I don't know. Maybe we do and maybe we don't.
The point is that that's a really nice distraction.
And the biggest thing that I think is interesting is nobody cares.
Nobody cares! Those stories lasted a night because everybody thought America would really go, ET is real, we're all in trouble.
Nobody cares.
If people are taking your liberties, destroying your constitution, if the rule of law is two-tiered now and there's rules for me and not for thee and vice versa, well, then you don't care about that nonsense.
And very quickly, the American people are starting to discern between a distraction and what's really, really happening.
And so to avoid, you know, the violence, we just have to stay on this tack of we are a peaceful people.
What I like to say about our group, Restore Liberty, is if you go back to the founders in 1775, going into 1776 and the very bloody war that was our Revolutionary War, that movement was about establishing liberty.
Establishing liberty requires violence, as they bring it.
But what our movement is and where we are is restoring liberty.
Violence should not be required.
Why? Because we have a constitution.
We just have to support and defend it.
And the things we've been talking about tonight are the ways to support and defend it.
That's all Americans have to do.
I support and defend my constitution.
That's it. That's it. That's where we're at.
And I do believe that all the murders, all of the I just don't believe that this many people doing these types of things at such a grandiose level in our faces every day right where we can see them are never held to account.
I don't believe it. I don't believe it for a second.
It's almost, you know, I'm thinking it's almost like when you look at it, it's like World War III UFOs, they're throwing everything at us.
They want World War III to happen.
They would love for the UFOs to land because they know that should the people get their way, I mean, a lot of people are going to end up hanging.
Oh, yeah. Oh, that's the whole point of the Get Trump at All Costs movement.
We don't care what it looks like that we're taking out a president.
We don't care that he's the lead candidate in a presidential election where the sitting power base is seeing that.
And just like Venezuela, you got to take out your opposition leader.
They don't care. They absolutely don't care.
Why don't they care?
They don't care about the optics because on January 20th, 2025, The accountability will start.
And I won't say it's reprisals.
It's all Americans want is the rule of law established.
They want equality under the law.
They want the 14th Amendment upheld.
And listen, if you've betrayed our country, I don't care that you're worth $140 million.
I don't care that you can control the moon, the stars, and the sun.
If you've betrayed this nation, and if you're guilty of other crimes, Well, then you're going to get what's coming to you as is adjudicated by the proper authorities and courts.
And I know it's bad right now, but I believe that day is going to come.
I believe with all my heart that day is going to come.
It may not be this year.
It may not be next. But I also understand Americans love their country.
And I watch it every day.
There are folks who used to call themselves Democrats who are like...
Look, I still can't stand conservatives and Republicans, but I know I hate this.
And it's like, that's cool.
Listen, let's all agree Marxism is bad and totalitarian control is really bad.
And that these globalists really probably don't have our best interests at heart, unless you really love eating crickets.
So if that's the case, then we probably should all come together.
Stop squabbling about blue versus red things.
There's Plenty of time in the future for that.
And maybe we should say, hey, we're Americans.
We've got a constitution and we're free.
And that freedom doesn't come from you, state.
It comes from God.
Exactly, exactly. LW, let's talk about what's been happening in terms of your show and the people that are your audience.
Essentially talking about 24, is there a paranoia out there that they're going to steal this one as well?
Oh, absolutely. A lot of people do believe that that is possible because, you know, the comment was made early.
If you don't fix 2020, there won't be a 2024.
Now, there's a lot of people that lean that way.
And then, you know, I stay toward the middle a little bit.
I believe it is being fixed.
I see proof of that.
We've seen it in multiple states across this nation, people standing up.
I've interviewed people that are getting involved at their local level, and they are making those changes.
Matter of fact, America happens.
You guys right there in Vegas have overtaken the GOP right there in Vegas.
I know that they're doing the same thing in Nebraska and other places around this country.
We are taking this country back.
Yeah, I mean, we have to.
We have no choice. We have no choice.
We're doing it like on a shoestring, you know?
Hey, Vance, you'll like this. It would be an exaggeration, too, actually, but yeah.
You'll like this.
My favorite Churchill quote, Winston Churchill quote, is, you can always trust the Americans to do the right thing after they've tried everything else.
Oh my god, that's amazing.
This is a great episode.
Is there anything we didn't talk about that's worth mentioning here?
I want to mention one thing.
It's a little bit off topic, but I think it bears watching.
It's part of the fallout of this terrible place where we find our world right now.
The Russians are using food as a weapon, and you see them blowing up grain stocks in Ukraine, and it's going to affect the lives of millions in Africa and the Middle East.
But what nobody can see and what nobody's looking at is the Russians and the Azeris from Azerbaijan Are currently blockading these 120,000 people in the enclave, the Armenian enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh.
I can't believe you mentioned that.
I mention Armenians all the time because I'm Armenian, by the way.
I love this.
Well, I talked to a family there and The blockade has gotten so tough that my Armenian friends who are there are now out of medicine.
I'm talking to a family where there are diabetics.
They are now out. The woman there who I talk to fairly routinely, there is no more food.
They've used up all the dandelions and the nettles they're going to get their hands on.
The bread lines are running out.
And what we're going to see is a terrible, terrible genocide repeat itself if the world doesn't highlight this.
And I've been working with the Armenian American community to highlight this.
If there's something happening in our world that the world's looking the other way on, including our disgraceful State Department, it's that.
And whatever light we can shed on it, I can't control opening up that blockade.
You know what's sick is there's 400 tons of food, medical, and water one kilometer from the dying people who need it right now.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, if I could just shed some more, you know, information on that, you know, this is a genocide actually that started in the mid to late 1800s.
That's when it started. If you follow the story, in fact, the first time Winston Churchill ever used the word Holocaust was to describe the murder of Armenians when I think 200,000 of them were murdered in the late 1800s.
In 1915, a million and a half of them were murdered, displaced, essentially pushed into a landlocked country.
That landlocked country is between Azerbaijan and Turkey.
Azerbaijan and Turkey are essentially the same people.
They're Turkic people. Both of them have sworn that that piece of land that exists is a Turkic A piece of land and Armenians should be erased.
They openly talk about genocide.
It's a genocide that's been going on for over 150 years.
It never stopped.
It never stopped. There was little pauses, but it never stopped.
And frankly, this is a Christian people.
They are the first Christian nation.
If you look at that part of the world, You used to be 90% Christian.
Today, there's hardly any Christians left.
And you see how that was swallowed up by globalists.
And there's a lot more to the story, by the way, because you see recurring names like Adam Schiff's great-great-uncle was the one surveying the Armenian lands.
Lo and behold for JP Morgan three years before the genocide started, you know, in 1915, I mentioned.
So there's a lot of what is happening globally right now that is reflected in what has happened to the Armenian people over the last 150 years.
And in fact, if you look at the points of genocide, what the agenda was of the Ottoman Turks in trying to destroy the Armenians, there was 10 points of genocide.
And guess what? In America, we're at number seven right now.
In a book called Armenian Golgotha, everybody has to read that book.
Because when you read that book, you see the same sort of intelligent techniques that are being used to divide us, destroy a nation, that happened in the fall of the Ottoman Empire.
The Ottoman Empire, and we never studied this in school.
I've studied it because of Armenian descent.
The Ottoman Empire, you know, people compare it to the fall of Germany in the early 1920s with the Deutschmark falling and all that.
No. The biggest parallel we have is the Ottoman Empire in terms of what they are doing to our country.
It's the same cast of characters, just a few generations removed.
And frankly, anybody out there that is interested in what the formula is to destroy us has to read Armenian Golgotha, including the attacks on the Christian Armenians, the Christian Greeks, the Assyrians.
Who, within those nations, where all of a sudden went from being normal citizens to all of a sudden the Christians are bad.
They're the infidels. And guess what?
We're seeing the exact same thing happen in the United States of America.
So a very important piece of world history that I think informs what is happening right now currently to us and what's to come so people understand the seriousness of where we are today.
Absolutely. There's something else that's very important too that we shared on LWN many a times.
There's 45 steps on how to change a country to a communist nation.
And if you go through that list and start checking that off, we're down to like number 40.
Education, taking over education, taking over the media.
We all know that the lamestream media is nothing more than a mouthpiece for the government.
It's a propaganda machine.
And if you go down and breaking up families and going down through that list of the communist manifesto, we're not far from the bottom of that list of completing all 45 steps.
It's very concerning to me as an American.
Totally. And it's like the same techniques, you know, in the old Armenian, you know, kind of when they're part of Turkey, I guess, before the genocide, young women used to get stolen and taken to harems, right?
Sexualized. And you look at the parallel of that.
Like, look at our, you know, OnlyFans, look at our, you know, Tinders and Bumbles and all of that.
Look at the way, you know, they've done the same thing.
They've just done it through propaganda and our technology, you know?
But the steps are exactly the same.
That's how you destroy, and really it's the steps to genocide.
If you think that this ultimately does not lead to genocide for the American people, I know that's a big thought.
People think they have guns and stuff.
Guess what? They have robots, they have tanks, they have F-18s or wherever we're at right now.
Just, yeah, warning, warning, guys.
Think about your warning.
Let them know what's coming because, you know, the worst is coming if we don't do something, frankly, you know?
I agree. I absolutely agree.
All right. All right.
So on that happy note, is there anything else anybody else wants to say to lighten the mood before we wrap this up?
I really appreciate you guys having me on tonight.
I'm always on Newsmax, and I have a blog there that I write once a week on, and restore-liberty.org.
If you'd like to come visit with us and learn more about our Constitution and what it takes to uphold it, then we're your group.
Awesome, awesome.
And you know, LW, if I could do a quick word for you and then, you know, love to hear your thoughts.
LW does the most amazing show for us every weekday, daily devotions, prayer, time with God every morning.
And I highly recommend people check it out because there's no better way to start your day than with God and with some of you that is an amazing messenger of God like Mr.
LW. Well, I'll say this.
I'm going to leave us all with a little bit of hope.
God is in control.
He's our refuge when times are tough.
And I can tell you from the interaction I'm getting with everyday American people out there, there's hope because they're not going to stand for this any longer.
And I believe with the general, we're going to see things change, we're going to see people be held accountable, and we will take this country back.
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