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Oct. 1, 2023 - Blood Money

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Businesswoman, Team Builder, Future of Nevada GOP ? w/ Jill Douglass

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	So, let's get started. Let's go.
	So,
	Today we have a very special guest, Jill Douglas, who is running to be Clark County Republican Chair.
	How are you doing, Jill?
	I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on your show.
	I don't think that you and I have ever had the pleasure of meeting you.
	Yeah, I've heard all about you.
	You've got a lot of fans out there that have been, you know, saying that we've got to get you on Blood Money and we've got to get you debating the rest of the crew on Blood Money.
	So thank you very much for coming on our show.
	I'd love to hear all about you.
	Before we get into this campaign season, tell us about who Jill Douglas is.
	Oh my gosh, I am just...
	I guess, like all-American girl.
	I'm from a small town in the Florida Panhandle, raised very, very conservatively in the Bible Belt of the South.
	You know, I've been a registered Republican since I could vote at age 18.
	I just, you know, believe strongly in the values and platform of the Republican Party.
	Obviously, I think as you grow up, you start realizing that those values mean a lot more than you ever thought they meant, especially as you become a mom and married a military guy.
	We moved around and ended up in Las Vegas, where he retired from active duty and went to work for the Department of Defense, and I started my own business.
	So I grew my own business.
	From scratch, became very, very successful in my industry.
	The company that I worked with said, hey, Jill, you've been so great.
	You know, we'd like to replicate you, so we want you to open a branch.
	And I built a branch of 23 reps.
	We became one of the top producing branches in the company.
	And from that, they eventually promoted me to director of the state of Nevada.
	And then eventually to agency vice president over a three-state operation, Nevada, Arizona, and Colorado.
	So, you know, I really have a very stable 30-year background in the same industry where I experienced both being a self-employed business owner as well as building teams, managing teams, motivating people, handling multi-million dollar budgets, developing plans and programs.
	Being given corporate goals and having to be focused on return of revenue and meeting those goals, as well as 30 years of fundraising experience.
	Fundraising with everything from working with Chamber of Commerce to schools, military organizations, churches.
	I think really at my core is just the heart of service.
	So no matter where I've Where I've landed, where I've been, where I've lived, I've always found ways to be of service to the community, to others, to my family.
	That's just who I am and that's what I do.
	Ultimately, as I became more and more passionate about You know, concerns with the way our country was going.
	You know, as a mother whose four children, as they got grown, they started marrying and started having grandchildren, you really start becoming more worried about what America is going to look like for future generations.
	And so I really got to a point where I wanted to really become more and more involved with the Republican Party.
	I had always been on smaller levels, but you know, when you're in corporate America, you don't even have freedom of speech.
	Basically, as a corporate executive, you're told, hey, you represent the brand, therefore you can't be posting, you can't be taking positions.
	Unfortunately, there are individuals who that's what they do.
	They seek out companies. If they don't like your political position, they go after the CEO. So I think it was back during the Brett Kavanaugh hearings where I became just...
	I mean, watching what the government was doing to an individual like Brett Kavanaugh, it became very aware to me that if the government could target someone like a Brett Kavanaugh, They could target anyone.
	They could target my husband.
	They could target my sons.
	They could target anyone.
	I'm glad you recognized that.
	I mean, that was a gross attack using all the toxic masculinity stereotypes to really make a guy's life miserable.
	I mean, it was so blatant.
	I mean, the world needs good men, you know?
	And it was just such a travesty.
	And I really was like, oh my gosh.
	And then you watch, then you start watching, you know, that made me decide I had to get off the bench.
	I had to get more involved.
	You can talk about all the problems, but you have to be willing to say, I want to work to be part of the solution.
	So that was when I started seeking involvement with the different Republican organizations and clubs.
	I actually made a decision to retire and walk away from corporate America because I finally was like, this matters so much.
	And I was in a position where I could do that.
	And just really now, this is what I'm passionate about.
	And whatever role I can have in making a difference for our city, for our county, for our state, for our nation.
	You know, that's what's important to me.
	What does the future look like for future generations?
	Yeah, and you have some crucial business experience.
	You know, we hear a lot of time these career politicians, I mean, you've actually run institutions, corporate, you know, you've dealt with corporate structures, you know, multiple moving parts.
	I mean, do you see that as being one of your strongest skills and assets in being able to take this organization to the next level?
	I absolutely do, because my entire career was centered around, first of all, finding the right talent, hiring the right people.
	I have hired hundreds of people.
	I've sat in on thousands of interviews.
	So, you know, it starts with finding talent, developing that talent.
	So I look at that as that's kind of like candidate recruitment, finding the right candidates to run for offices, helping develop and train those individuals, but also our volunteer base.
	You know, everyone within the party has different skill sets and abilities and gifts.
	And so we need to recognize those and we need to plug them in in areas where they can use those.
	But another thing that I learned was you have to very clearly articulate vision.
	See, without vision, people perish.
	You know, I think one of the problems with the party, and this isn't just under Jesse, I think for a long time has been a lack of a vision.
	The party has a branding problem because if you were to ask people, what does the Clark County Republican Party mean to you?
	Most people wouldn't even be able to tell you.
	And surprisingly, you can go around to a lot of these Republican clubs You know, that have hundreds and hundreds of members.
	And a lot of people would say, I don't even know what the Clark County Republican Party is.
	Does that exist? How do you belong?
	How do you join? You know, so I think there has to be a clearly articulated vision.
	And then it's just not enough to have words on a piece of paper.
	You know, I'll throw Jesse under the bus for a second because, you know, he has come out with this little document that says reelect him.
	The interesting thing about this document is he's not able to identify a success.
	There's no bullet point on here saying we accomplished this or we did this or we did this because there were none.
	What there are is a bunch of promises of things that he wants to happen in the future.
	The problem is none of that happened in the past, so there is no way That we should think that's going to happen in the future.
	Could I pass something by you real quick?
	Just based upon Jesse's interview, because we're interviewing every single candidate.
	And Jesse was saying that the minute he became Clark County chair, because there was this old party, they weren't happy with his presence.
	There was all these lawsuits that took away from a lot of resources.
	It took away from a lot of time.
	And it was because since day one, there's been this opposition to him.
	That has essentially, you know, chipped away at his time.
	How do you respond to that? I would say Jesse needs to get over the victimhood.
	First of all, Jesse needs to accept his role in the litigation that took place.
	And I will grant you that 2021 was chaotic for everyone, even for those of us who wanted to really be involved in the party.
	It was definitely, I would say, a You know, a troublesome time.
	I can also show you articles where by December the courts had pretty much made a decision regarding this issue and then that decision was It's not really a legal issue.
	It's really fighting by two good individuals.
	You know, the judge said, hey, both of you are nice people.
	Both of you care about the party.
	Figure it out. So really, by the end of 2021, it was pretty much figured out how that was going to end up.
	And then it was just a matter of, you know, going to arbitration, agreeing to some certain things and waiting for the documents to be drawn up.
	And I really have taken a position then that I'm not someone who likes to look through the rearview mirror because we can't change the past.
	We can't change anything that occurred in the past.
	But from the day that Jesse stepped in his chair, he took ownership of the party.
	Therefore, his focuses should have been on how do I move the party forward?
	And so he has to own the fact that in 2022, It's public record.
	In 2022, you can look at the C&E reports.
	$17,000 was brought in.
	14 of that was given to the party by the RNC. Now, you can look that we spent like $70,000.
	You can see that in the first quarter of this year, no money came in.
	No money came in in the first quarter of this year.
	Now, there might have been small donations.
	But yet at the same time, we spent $3,900.
	Now, it's caused people to ask a lot of questions about the finances of the party.
	I thought it was interesting. I heard Jesse a little bit.
	I didn't catch it all, but I heard him a little bit on...
	The recorded interview he did with Kevin Wall.
	And Kevin asked that question.
	He's been asking everybody that question.
	It's a fair question to ask because let's be transparent and you can't fix a problem until you're willing to admit that there's a problem.
	There is a problem with the finances of the party.
	That's very clear.
	The treasurer at the last meeting said, we're in debt for legal fees and we haven't paid rent.
	That's very disturbing when you find out that apparently there's a lease out there.
	It's something like $7,000 a month and we haven't made a payment.
	At what time does that money become due?
	Or we get evicted.
	We're going to owe something on that.
	Or is there something else going on that we don't know about that we need to know about?
	So... That's a big concern.
	We do have to address that.
	He has to own that.
	He's promising that he's going to bring in $360,000.
	You haven't brought in any money in two years.
	And really, Vim...
	Why is that, by the way?
	Sorry to interrupt you, but why is that there has been no money coming in for two years?
	Well, I mean...
	Not being on the board to be able to have asked those questions at the time.
	Individuals have shared with me.
	I had an individual share with me that they actually went to donors and collected, got donations to pay off the legal fees.
	The legal fees weren't paid off.
	So then donors start questioning, where is this money going to go?
	What is this? Where is it going to go?
	What's it going to go for?
	And when donors don't know What the money's earmarked for, and they don't trust that the money, the little bit of money that has come in has been used like that money to pay off the legal bills, then they're not going to donate.
	Quite frankly, It's only reasonable to ask the question, what is going to change if Jesse gets reelected?
	Those donors are just suddenly going to forget about the past?
	They're suddenly going to go from a level of distrust to a level of trust?
	I don't think so, especially when Jesse's all over the paper being part of a fraud lawsuit.
	That doesn't help your donors to feel good about donating to the party leadership.
	When I get elected, one of the first things I'm going to do is reach out, have meetings with these donors, present my vision for the things the party needs to accomplish, And the money that we would earmark for particular things.
	Look, the Women's Resource Center, every year I go to their gala.
	I support the Women's Resource Center.
	And, you know, in that gala, they'll raise $800,000.
	But see, it's because the donors have bought into the vision of what they're trying to accomplish.
	And they know for a fact, if you give $125 a month, that $125 a month supports five pregnant women through their pregnancy.
	Or they know if you donate X amount of money, it's going to pay for X amount of sonograms.
	They don't know if they give money to our party, where it goes, There's no accountability and there's no transparency.
	So it only stands to reason that maybe people who would want to support the party are reluctant to do so because Look, the state GOP had to take over the Lincoln Day Dinner.
	The Lincoln Day Dinner is supposed to be the biggest fundraiser for the county party.
	Some of our small little counties raised $29,000, $30,000, $40,000 with their Lincoln Day Dinners.
	The state had to take over the Lincoln Day Dinner, and it only made $6,000, yet we're the largest county.
	These are the things that quite frankly, you know what, Jesse would garner more respect if he just took ownership and said, you know what, Yeah, man.
	This year, I didn't really know what I was getting into.
	I wasn't the leader I should have been.
	I didn't clearly articulate goals, direction.
	We failed to implement.
	We didn't act with purpose.
	We didn't act with intention.
	I have learned so much.
	And, you know, I'm just going to say that I wasn't the leader that I should have been, but But I've learned a lot and I'm going to do better.
	Instead, he deflects from everything.
	When Kevin Wall asked him about the finances, he deflects from the fact that we're broke.
	And he starts talking about, oh, yeah, we're going to bring in these donors and we're going to raise $360,000.
	No, you're not, Jesse.
	If you were capable of doing that, you would have already done that.
	Let me ask you, how would you, fundraising-wise, right?
	You're saying that there's a lack of message, there's a lack of direction, people don't know what they're spending their money on, right?
	So how would you do fundraising differently?
	How would you approach that entire process differently?
	Yeah. Well, you know, there's several things I would do.
	I think you have to first look at What funds do you need to pay your just basic bills?
	It's kind of like a household budget, right?
	What are our basic reoccurring obligations?
	And so that number becomes one earmark.
	We have to be bringing in every month X amount of money to pay the bills.
	That's probably your small donor donations, right?
	Then you have to look at earmarks.
	I want to defeat ranked choice voting.
	This is very important to me.
	This was also a failure of the party last election.
	I actually went around and I educated people on ranked choice voting.
	So much so that we had an organization come in town making a documentary about ranked choice voting.
	And when they contacted certain people about who they should talk to, they said, go to Jill Douglas because she's the one really educated and fighting for this.
	So When I would go around and I would talk to these different groups of Republicans, they didn't know.
	They weren't informed. And they said, why isn't the party doing this?
	Why isn't the party out here informing us about this?
	We barely lost something that's so critical that honestly, if it passes, we won't even exist as a Republican Party.
	You know, so I've got to sit with people and say, all right, if we're going to defeat ranked choice voting, what do we need to do?
	Using traditional media, social media, digital media, you know, flyers, town halls, you know, newspaper posts.
	What do we need to do?
	Education, getting in front of people.
	And maybe that price tag is $50,000.
	Whatever the price tag is.
	Now I go to donors with a clear vision of it's important that we defeat ranked choice voting because ranked choice voting will destroy our primary process.
	And here's the plan to defeat it.
	And here's the price tag.
	Now, donors feel good about that, right?
	Now they're part of something.
	They know what they're a part of.
	They know how they can help in that regard.
	They know where their money's going and is going for a good purpose.
	So that's some of the things that I would do.
	But I think that you can do everything from donors of distinction.
	I think that you can have monthly mixers.
	I think that you can put on educational workshops and charge for them.
	I have a plan.
	When I'm elected, I would do a huge big Unity Rally.
	I've got a speaker that I already have earmarked that I think would be really good.
	And so, yeah, you create an environment where you are creative, you have some fun, but you have important messages to share.
	You rally everybody around that vision.
	And the first thing that needs to happen with fundraising is the debt has to be settled.
	We can't even move forward with the future until we settle that debt, because that debt just weighs on you, and we've got to have a pay off the legal bills, pay off the rent, right?
	We've got to make a determination, is that lease a good lease?
	How do we get out of that lease?
	Where should the office actually be?
	Is the party best suited to have an office in Henderson?
	You know, where do the Clark County members live?
	You know, as big as the valley is, that individuals who live up in Summerlin do not like to drive down to Henderson, and those that live in Henderson don't like to drive in Summerlin.
	Is it better to have two small offices that are more accessible to our members and will be used more frequently?
	You know? So, I mean, these are some of the questions we need to ask.
	It seems like we're paying for an awful lot of square footage.
	Are we utilizing that square footage?
	Do we need that much space?
	I mean, we have to make sure that as a party that we're operating, you know, with cost efficiency and cost effectiveness.
	And right now, the transparency, there's been no transparency.
	So most of us that sit here, you know, in these meetings, We're questioning, well, why do we have that office?
	Why haven't we paid rent?
	What's going on?
	And it's very difficult to get answers.
	But we all need to feel good that we're in a good financial place.
	So other than the ranked choice voting being like a target, so you're saying that you'd go out to potential funders and saying, look, we need to defeat ranked choice voting, making that a target.
	They know what they're investing their funds into.
	Right. That's one of the things.
	Well, obviously you have to look at, look, when you go back to what are the duties and responsibilities of the chair of the party?
	I mean, that's the number one thing that the voters have to ask themselves.
	And the number one responsibility is winning elections.
	So how did we do in the elections?
	I think, did you, I heard that you ran, did you run for an office?
	Yeah, in 2022. Okay.
	Yeah. So when I look at that, and I was super active, okay?
	I worked with a ton of different campaigns.
	I rallied a group together who collectively we made over 21,000 phone calls.
	We logged over 65,000 hours in canvassing neighborhoods and putting on fundraisers.
	I was like fully vested in these campaigns.
	I didn't see anyone from the party helping the candidates at all.
	I mean, the candidates, most of the candidates, when they heard I was running, they're like, great, we need strong leadership like you because we've gotten no support from the party.
	So today, as we sit here, did we win elections?
	No. We lost an assembly seat.
	We lost a Senate seat.
	We cannot afford to lose another Senate seat.
	So we have to put our resources around Senate 6, And Senate five.
	We cannot lose those.
	We need to take Senate six.
	We need to win Senate six.
	We need to retain Senate five.
	Those are critical elections.
	So we're going to have to work with those candidates and say, You know, what's your campaign doing for you and how can we help?
	Now, we're not the campaign, right?
	We're not responsible for your campaign, but we can assist you.
	We can help rally volunteers around knocking on doors, making calls, signing postcards, you know, and in that regard, it actually gets down to the precinct level work with precinct captains because I think one of the things we failed to do was get We've
	got to take back Assembly 37.
	Assembly 37 was Andy Matthews.
	And that was a super, super close race.
	But we've all seen now how progressively liberal Shea Bacchus is.
	So we've got to put our resources behind who runs for Assembly 37.
	And there are some other Assembly districts out there as well that we need to focus on.
	And we need to make sure that we have the appropriate amount of money to help those campaigns Get them over the finish line.
	Is there, in terms of, you know, just about the fundraising question, is there other things we could do to build bridges?
	I mean, I would think that, you know, something like, hey, get a flyer in the mail, you know, support the Clark County Republican Party.
	We support parental rights.
	We won't allow the sexualization of your children.
	Parents are number one.
	They get to decide. Whatever it is, right?
	That, to me, seems like it would resonate with people.
	I totally agree.
	I would call those, yes, our messaging needs to address kitchen table issues.
	Here's the things that connect every voter in Clark County, whether you're a Democrat, whether you're a Republican, or whether you're an Independent.
	When you start talking about When you start talking about property taxes, when you start talking about inflation, when you start talking about what you're paying at the grocery store today, what it costs when we fill our car up with gas, when we start talking about parental rights, when we start talking about healthcare issues, when we start talking about our children, when we start talking about crimes in our neighborhood, all of these issues connect everyone.
	So, yes, we have to be willing to combat the misinformation campaigns of the Democrats, but we have to talk about issues that are important to our voters, those kitchen table issues.
	And we have to find a forum to do it, right?
	So, you know, to that point, one of the missed opportunities I think we just had, you know, they talked about how many Republicans didn't turn out to vote.
	Mm-hmm. So my question becomes, what did the party do to find out why?
	Was there a survey sent to those voters?
	We know who they are, right?
	Have we invited them to come to a meeting?
	Have we sent out a survey?
	In what capacity have we reached out to them?
	I think there needs to be something done to, first of all, reach out to those voters and say, we care.
	You're a registered Republican.
	What prevented you from voting?
	I think there's several reasons.
	And I know that because I did knock on a lot of doors.
	And I had Republicans tell me they weren't going to vote.
	And I was like shocked because voting to me is such a privilege.
	It's our voice.
	Like, I can't imagine not voting.
	But some of the things they told me, see, when we get on our platform about voter fraud, We turned off a lot of Republican voters, and now they think, well, my vote's not going to count.
	Why even bother to go?
	So that's one thing. The other thing is, a lot of Republicans didn't show up because they don't want to vote for a Democrat.
	But quite frankly, they've been embarrassed by the conduct of our party.
	And there have been things that have occurred that They look at our party and say, oh my god, the party infighting is something that a lot of these voters don't like.
	We can't get along with each other.
	It limits our ability to get our message across.
	So they don't want to be part of that friction, right?
	So they just stay away.
	I mean, these are Republicans.
	That's the easiest vote to get.
	But we've got to re-engage with them.
	We've got to let them know we care.
	Are you reporting, when you say like, you know, some of the, I guess you're talking about the drama in the party, are you talking about like certain events that happen at Stoney's with certain quotes happening and certain words being said and essentially this general thing that's coming out into the public that this party is, you know, it's got some internal issues?
	Well, I mean, you could start listing them.
	And again, I wouldn't put all of this on Jesse, because I think it's been going on for a long time.
	For far too long, where we've lost track of the fact that we are Republicans.
	That doesn't mean that we are going to agree.
	Let's just say the platform has 20 points, right?
	We may not agree on all 20 points, but it's like the party has developed a test of how Republican are you?
	And so if there's an area that maybe you have some disagreement, boy, they're quick to like, you're a rhino.
	And that turns some of these Republicans that aren't real active in the party, but they read the paper, and they see us calling each other rhinos.
	Have you ever heard a Democrat call another Democrat a A demo?
	We are labeling people within our own party because we've had some personality conflict with them.
	Some of these personality conflicts, I mean, they've just developed into deep hatred.
	And look, when you carry the baggage of hatred, it's hard to ever find a way to move forward.
	And that limits our ability to present a united front.
	And so, yes, at some point, we just have to say, you know what, I agree to disagree.
	And look, the other thing is, I know it is difficult.
	I've never not voted for a Republican.
	If I was going to do that, and I won't, because I can't as a Republican vote.
	Yeah, I wouldn't keep it to myself, right?
	Nobody knows when you go actually to the ballot booth how you're voting.
	You don't have to make it a public forum.
	But again, because some of these relationships go so deep, you know, and it continues to resurface.
	And then we battle it out in the newspaper.
	Well, I don't like that this person said this, and so they're blah, blah, blah, you know.
	And then We have no ability to get our message across because people are into the drama.
	So then you have the split of the party.
	So then you have also you have the fact that, you know, it is out there.
	Jesse admitted to it.
	He used a prior chair social security number.
	There are people that still have heartburn about that.
	Then you get to, you know, I mean, even in recent days, in recent days, you've had You've had it in the news that our state chair, who I think has worked very, very hard in the presidential and federal elections, my running for the county has nothing to do with the state.
	I'm focused on the county.
	The state needs the county to win Nevada.
	So you have to have a working relationship in that regard.
	But again, when it gets in the news that there was this Elector fraud, elector scheme, and now the potential of your, you know, it was in the paper, like he's been granted limited immunity.
	Well, typically if you're granted some type of limited immunity, that means they're trying to work out a plea deal, you know, to keep you from being indicted.
	So like, I don't pretend to know all the particulars about that.
	I'm just saying From a PR point of view, it's not good.
	Now, the next thing that happens is then you have our national committee woman who's feuding with the Golden Knight fans because they should be more passionate about elections.
	I get it.
	I wish everybody was as passionate about who we elect for office as they were You know, that, but that was a big thing to celebrate.
	So we didn't, you know, you don't do any good by arguing with people who are all, you know, happy.
	Like, I'm so happy this team won.
	Like, this is great. Then, you know, on top of that, she is suing the governor.
	So this same governor that Jesse wants to tell, oh, we elected a governor.
	I would challenge Jesse.
	Jesse did not one thing to help Joe Lombardo get elected.
	Again, we know that he supported Joey Gilbert.
	We know that he was anti-Lombardo.
	So don't sit here and make us think that you had anything.
	I worked on the Lombardo team.
	I spent every Monday the entire election season with a team of people making phone calls, and I spent the weekends knocking on doors.
	I was highly vested in that campaign.
	So, I don't know.
	If he's got his endorsement, you know, I would say, number one, why didn't Joe call me as a good, hard volunteer?
	So, it's suspect, because I would typically think that most people, if they're going to endorse someone, are going to call somebody else and tell them.
	He wasn't invited to the governor's leadership forum that was held, that I was.
	He wasn't invited there.
	You know, we could debate that issue all day long.
	So, you know, whatever.
	But he definitely was not, he cannot take credit for that.
	Okay. So I take issue when I hear him take credit for things that he had absolutely nothing to do with.
	Jesse is the one who's decided to run for re-election, right?
	When you run for re-election, you are the incumbent.
	You've got the record.
	So anyone that's challenging you, it is fair game to say, what did you accomplish?
	And to raise issues like, oh my gosh, you're part of a fraud lawsuit.
	But let's even go back before that.
	If I was going to use two words to define myself, I would say I have Republican integrity.
	What that means is I bleed red.
	I care about this party.
	I could never be bought off, right?
	I don't take anybody's money.
	I don't want anybody's money.
	I could not possibly be influenced by a Democrat.
	So the question actually becomes...
	How do you feel about knowing that Ross Miller, who is the poster boy for political corruption in the Democratic Party, you know, how do you feel about knowing that he had an opportunity to appoint two people to a board, Venco Ventures, And one of them was Jesse Law.
	Why is that? What was their relationship?
	In fact, what in Jesse's background even prepared him to be appointed to that board?
	And so the appearance is, and this is where you have to say, Jesse, you need to own this and come clear.
	The Clark County members have a right to know.
	Why? Even if...
	What was the relationship?
	And how can we trust you to fight for Republicans?
	Say April Becker, who's now going to be running against Ross Miller.
	Ross Miller was, you know, what?
	Patted your pockets with income from this opportunity.
	Where are your loyalties?
	You don't have Republican integrity when you put the interest of other...
	Anyone within the Democratic...
	I mean, listen, brilliant move on the part of Ross Miller, because guess what?
	He was able to use the chair of our party to infiltrate our party.
	You can't tell me that he didn't get influence with Jesse when he appointed him to that board.
	Now, Ross Miller was only on the board for six months.
	I understand he now is suing.
	He was supposed to be paid $200,000 for that six months.
	But now this is a company...
	That the investors have lost 95% of their investment and they're suing.
	And yet they're asking Jesse Waltz.
	So it's kind of interesting.
	We've got four people running against Jesse for this office, you know.
	And so you have to ask yourself, these four people probably represent a great majority of the Clark County Republican Party.
	They're essentially saying, Jesse, you had two years.
	We don't think you were effective.
	Will you please resign?
	This is, after all, a volunteer unpaid position, supposedly.
	And you've got the investors for Venco Ventures saying, Jesse Law is unpaid.
	Committed fraud.
	We want him to step down.
	You've got two factions of people wanting the same individual to step down, basically saying some of the same things about him, and yet he won't.
	So where I would agree with Nephi, and I listened to that interview, is that very question.
	What... Obviously, he wants his position for self-serving reasons.
	There has to be money being paid under the table.
	Because why else does someone, he's a young man, I think he's 43 years old, pays child support for three kids.
	Why do you want an unpaid position?
	So another thing I would say that better qualifies me than the other candidates is number one, I have all the time in the world to work for the party.
	You cannot put the hours in working for the party if you have to also derive an income from some other source.
	How can you do a full-time job and do this?
	Jesse himself has said he spends 14 hours a day doing this.
	Well, how do you spend 14 hours a day doing this and make an income To support yourself and your family.
	So I have the time and I'm financially secure.
	So I don't need anybody's money.
	I don't want anybody's money.
	You know, I'm not looking for self-serving interest of trying to be appointed to some board or consulting fees.
	I'm not looking for any of that.
	I am simply saying, I was asked if I would step up and run Because there was a huge number of individuals in many leadership positions, in many Republican organizations and conservative organizations around the valley who said, the party's got to have new leadership and Jill, we think you're the person That can do the job.
	Will you consider it?
	And at first, my first response was, oh no.
	And then I thought about it, prayed about it.
	I just got to the point where, you know what?
	Sometimes you have to have courage.
	You have to step out of your comfort zone.
	And maybe you just have to say, well, God's given me this talents and abilities.
	I have the background.
	And be willing to enter the arena And say, look, you know, at the end of the day, the members of the Clark County Republican Party have a choice to make.
	If they want to reelect Jesse, then that's fine.
	Hopefully he will have learned from the experience, learned from the past two years, and step up his game, right?
	But conversely, my hope would be that they say, It hasn't worked for two years.
	We can't continue like this.
	2024 is critical.
	It's critical not only for the state, but it's critical for our nation.
	We've got to have the right leadership in place, and I've got the background.
	I can do this for the party, and my only interest is for the party.
	Let me ask you, though. Actually, could I make a statement and have you react?
	I personally think, and I've said this on pretty much all the podcasts having to do with the candidates, that I think it's preposterous, preposterous that a position like Jesse's and a position like Michael McDonald's is an unpaid volunteer position.
	And why do I think it's preposterous?
	Look, 20, 30 years ago, when it was a different climate in terms of voting, it might have not been so preposterous.
	Today, this is like a, I mean, I'd be shocked if this is not an 80-hour-a-week job.
	I mean, you're literally a war general out there, and this is like a ground war, not violent, obviously, but there's so much organization, there's so much strategy that goes into it.
	I'm not trying to make excuses for Jesse, but the fact that this is an unpaid position, yet he's saying it takes 14 hours a day.
	I mean, it almost is billed.
	And by the way, the corrupt will always be corrupt because we have congressional members that are making $200,000 a year trying to make $10 million a year on payola.
	But the fact that these are like zero and what does that do, right?
	You're saying that because you've had a successful career, you have the luxury of time, right?
	And which is amazing, which is amazing.
	It sounds like that's the kind of person that you'd want that actually has enough savings to be able to sustain this position since you are not getting paid, right?
	But that is just so wrong on so many levels, if you ask me, because that actually prevents other people that don't have the luxury that you have, You know, from running, from being able to do a volunteer position.
	It also, I think, is bad in the sense that it forces somebody that might not have the finances to seek other forms of finances.
	And what I found in interviewing Jesse is there's no way this position could be coupled with another position and there's no conflict of interest, especially one where it's corporate and there's bylaws and there's things you can't do.
	You can't do things because of the SEC. Your speech is prevented, yet You're trying to run the Clark County Republican Party.
	So the whole thing, to me, on a structural level, it's not so much...
	I'll skip the Jesse part because all that stuff should be determined.
	This is a court case. It's not like there's been a resolution to that court case.
	There's been no discoveries and findings yet.
	So right now, there are allegations which suit the other three candidates really well because he's the big honcho that the three candidates want to get rid of.
	Structurally speaking, I see fundamental issues.
	Vim, I think you make a very good point, because if you truly want an individual who can put the time, effort, and energy that needs to be put into the position, and you want to lessen the opportunity for that backdoor deal, Yeah, it would be great if it was, but again, it relies on donors.
	I would say one of the things that I would like to do if we build up financial reserves is to certainly not the first person that should be hired and paid would be like an executive assistant, you know, who really can, you know, some of these duties and responsibilities It could be delegated to that paid executive director, executive assistant.
	That way the office is always open.
	There's always somebody there.
	Candidates can stop by, can drop off stuff.
	They can hold meetings there.
	It becomes more of a working hub for the party.
	And you have the stability of that individual.
	Because really, because it is a volunteer position, You should be having new chairs continually.
	I don't know why anyone would want to do this for a long time.
	I would make a commitment that, yeah, I will come in and I'm willing to do this for two years.
	I'm not seeking to be here for a long time.
	If I do it right, the party will be in a better place two years from now than it is now.
	And every person that comes after me Then can contribute to continually helping it to get better.
	Part of my role should be building succession planning and creating opportunity for future leaders because everybody comes in with some fresh ideas.
	You can get in a position and you can get blinders on that you only see things from a certain vantage point and a certain perspective.
	It's good to bring other people in with fresh ideas.
	It's good for other people to know, hey, I can plug in now as a volunteer and learn this and do this and do this and maybe I want to run for chair in two years.
	And the other thing is, if you had a limit to the amount of time that the chair served, in the Republican women's clubs, we cannot serve more than two terms.
	That's four years.
	So part of your role has to be putting people in positions and grooming them and developing them for the future.
	And the same thing should be in this role.
	And actually, if you did something like that, I would be the first to tell you that elections are divisive because after all, you know, you're running against an incumbent, you're trying to help the voters get to know both of you, and you're trying to make a case as to why you're better, why you're going to benefit the party in a better way, you know, than the current incumbent.
	So that in and of itself kind of sets up a divisiveness.
	The other thing that sets up divisiveness, though, when you run is that Elections should be fair.
	And I should be given the same opportunity to connect with everyone in the party that Jesse is.
	And they limit that from happening.
	And that's not right.
	You know, one of the things I've said to Jesse is you are the chair over an assembly of people.
	The chair is not the party.
	So the chair should actually be listening to all of the voters, all of the members, and all of the members should feel like their voices are heard, that they get a seat at the table.
	So there's many, many things that have happened to where he comes across as if...
	When I announced, I've been doing this now for about, I don't know, 84 days.
	I've had 11 meet and greets.
	I've done a ton of radio interviews.
	I've been I mean, my day has been nonstop busy for the last 84 days.
	But it's made difficult because I was told the bylaws state that you can get a membership list.
	Now, they also state they have up to 30 days to get you the membership list.
	Now, first of all, you've got to ask yourself, why in the world do they need 30 days to attach an Excel spreadsheet to an email?
	They don't. That's deliberate because somebody right now who determines today that they want to run, they're not even going to be able to get anything at all because they've given themselves a 30-day window.
	So secondly, at 35 days after asking, I get what they say is a membership list.
	So I look at it now.
	I would ask you this question.
	If you had to define what a membership list of an organization consists of, how would you define that?
	Names, addresses, emails.
	Every single person I've asked has said, yeah, if you belong to a group and you get the membership list, it's names and contact information.
	So I get a list of names.
	So first of all, there's 439 names.
	Now, the minutes reflect we have 716 members.
	So I go, did I get all of them or what?
	So the first thing I find out is, oh, their membership number's been wrong.
	It is actually 439.
	Okay. I need the contact information.
	You can't have the contact information without their permission.
	Well, how do I get their permission if I can't contact them?
	Really? Come on. The bylaws say I can get a membership list.
	The membership list is only names.
	We don't want our members being, you know...
	Suddenly, you know, having their mailboxes full of emails and texts, right?
	However, my question to that is then why Has Jesse been able to give the membership list with contact information to at least I know of five people?
	Because I know these five people are calling people every day and texting people every day.
	I hear the voicemails they're leaving.
	I hear the conversations they're having.
	I see the text.
	So they're telling me that I as a candidate can't have the contact information, but it's okay if they, if Jesse gives that membership list with contact information, And ask somebody to make those calls.
	Like, I think an effective leader says, I represent the party.
	We need to have a fair election.
	Quite frankly, if I've done a good job, then I should have nothing to worry about.
	But the membership has a right to be educated and informed and make the decision that they feel is the best decision.
	So to withhold contact information from the membership at election time In my opinion, it's just wrong.
	Now, we've had to work around that.
	We've had to try to identify people.
	We've had to try to identify who knows who.
	But see, we've spent a lot of time doing that, that we shouldn't have to do.
	We should be given the membership list.
	So what they're doing is they're interpreting the bylaws in a way that creates advantage for them.
	The bylaws should either be very, very clear as to what the definition is, or then you should go by what most people would define a membership list to be, which is names and contact information.
	Yeah, yeah. And is Jesse able to use the membership list that has names and contact information?
	I mean, is there any information on it?
	Has he used it, or is it...
	Is it has no candidate been able to use the proper mandate?
	No, he's using it.
	He's calling people all day, every day.
	You know, wait, wait, sorry.
	I just need to clarify. So he has their phone numbers and email addresses and you're seeing the other candidates have just been given names, no phone numbers and email addresses.
	That's what I'm saying. Wow.
	Okay. And I'm saying not only does he have it, but I'm saying That he has given it to other people that are supporting him, who are not running for an office, and he has them making those calls, sending the emails, and sending texts.
	So let me ask you, the state party, I mean, wouldn't that be something that the state party would have to step in to say, hey, that's not kosher?
	You know, the state party operates The state party, the county party should be operating the county party.
	So in terms of the exchange of that information, could they do that?
	They could, but I haven't seen that that's something that they do.
	Interesting, interesting. Now, let me ask you about community building.
	We've been part of these groups that are networking communities where they throw parties, they have events, and we've seen that as being very effective in terms of bringing people in.
	And I was just thinking about the office.
	I've been in the Clark County office in Henderson.
	It's a huge space. You could almost make a work, kind of like, what is it?
	WeWork type of space, invite people in.
	So, a lot of people are working from home.
	You know, what do you think about those kind of concepts of events and, you know, using the office for something that's maybe a little bit more productive and on an ongoing basis brings people in and is inviting to people and, you know, really helps to, I guess, rebrand what the Republican Party is because a lot of things, you know, people think Republican Party standoffish, you know, I'm talking about the outside perspective, not necessarily the people that are in our community.
	I mean, what do you think about those kind of approaches?
	Well, first of all, I think it's good.
	When I think of community involvement, I would say, first of all, I have someone earmarked to be the director of community outreach.
	And we would certainly do things where, number one, we get into those communities, other communities.
	Quite frankly, Vim, you know, one of the things when you look at the party, does the party look like our community?
	Mm-hmm. You know, I have the endorsement of the President of the Minority Business Association because he knows me and he has seen the outreach that I have done.
	And he has point blank said that I have built trust and admiration through Black Americans, Latinos, Asian Americans.
	You know, I have sought to develop relationships with the log cabin Republicans that, you know, I've sought to try to learn more about You know, the Jewish coalition and the conservative clubs.
	And so I think we need to build relationships in those communities.
	And part of that goes back to you can't expect somebody to vote Republican simply because you show up at election season and say, oh, you're going to vote Republican, you know?
	No, you only earn that vote because you've connected with the community.
	So number one, we need to be seeking out what is going on in those communities that we can be a part of and give back to.
	Is there a school that we can donate a laptop to?
	Are there books that we can take to a library?
	So we need to be present in those communities.
	We need to be developing relationships with the leaders in those communities.
	So it doesn't appear that we only care about them when it's election season.
	Right? Now, then when you come to the party as a whole, yeah, see, I see the, I think the office should be like a hub.
	You know? So to your point, yes, if a candidate wants to use it, you know, if somebody, you know, is in the neighborhood and they just want to stop and say hi and get a bottle of water, you know, you could have events where you're bringing in children to pick up a popsicle and an ice cream cone.
	You like, you become, again, it's, It's building relationships.
	It's being creative.
	Again, when I say that we lack branding, we lack effective communication, we lack connection within our community.
	So you have to be very intentional about that.
	What do we want to accomplish it?
	What are we going to do to accomplish it?
	There's a vast amount of room for improvement.
	Even with business owners, you know, have we have we brought business?
	Here's one thing Trump did that I always thought was very effective.
	If Trump was going to he would get to know the needs of a particular business, you know, so if it was pastors, if it was Dentist, medical, whatever. He would do these great big roundtable discussions.
	He would invite people to the White House, the leaders in those industries, and he'd just sit around the table and he would get to know what they did, what their concerns are, how the government could help them.
	What were their needs?
	We've never even brought businesses in to Understand and explore and build those relationships.
	You know, I think the Keystone Corporation does a great job with advocating for creating an environment in Nevada that is attractive to businesses and they support legislation that That makes it easier for businesses to operate.
	They oppose anything that's going to be not helpful to free enterprise.
	So we also have to be very aware of building relationships with business owners.
	We should have a database.
	We should encourage Republican-owned businesses to give us their name, have a database.
	Hey, if you want to go to pizza, well, we know Brooklyn Pizza is a Republican-owned business.
	Wayne Allen Root does a great job in his books.
	His first book was, hey, boycott these businesses.
	Let's make the woke go broke.
	But then his next one was all about putting our money and supporting the businesses That, you know, have the conservative values, like where we spend our money matters.
	And so we can be more helpful to Republican businesses who in turn are more likely than to want to donate to the things that we as a party need to help them.
	Like almost creating a directory of all Republican businesses or patriot run businesses across Nevada.
	Yes. And, you know, maybe we're able to work it out where there's some member benefits, right?
	So because you are a member of the Clark County Republican Party, they agree to give you a 10% discount on your, you know, your protein shake.
	You know, we could look at something like that to where it's a mutually, building mutually beneficial relationships.
	Mm-hmm. Now, so let me ask you, like, what would be your first steps?
	Let's say you won this race.
	What would be your first steps and how do you plot the next two years?
	Have you thought about that much as far as, you know, this is what I'm going to do first and then these are the sequence of things I like to put into action?
	So number one has to be rebuilding the trust of donors and paying off the debt.
	So like I mentioned, one of the very first things I would want to do Is create a fun unity rally with some really positive powerhouse speakers, bringing people together.
	And at the same time, the goal would be raise enough funds to pay off the debt.
	So after that day, we're moving forward, right?
	So, you know, that That piece is critical.
	Then I would be working with, when in terms of the election, we have to be thinking of, again, the table issues that affect everyone.
	How do we communicate those issues?
	But we've got to be focused on voter assistance, ballot harvesting.
	We have to be building coalitions.
	We have to be...
	We have to be pinpointing the most critical elections.
	You know, so how do we encourage people to, so Republicans have been, we always just bought into, gosh darn it, it's election day and I am proud to be an American and I am going to show up and I'm going to vote for election day, you know, and that's awesome.
	And look, I would be supportive of A federal holiday for elections where everybody could get off work.
	Nobody has any excuses.
	But we saw in the last election that came back to bite us because the weather was bad.
	Here it was rainy, cold, windy.
	Up north they had snowstorms.
	A lot of people with good intentions are like, I'm not going to go out in this.
	It doesn't matter anyway. They talk themselves out of it, right?
	Or you get up and your car won't start.
	Or you're sick. Or you're in the hospital suddenly.
	So all of these things that can happen, we need to make sure people understand on the first opportunity that you have to vote, take advantage of it and vote.
	There is no difference in going to the poll on early voting or same-day voting.
	Okay, so we've got to encourage that.
	But we've also, in terms of voter assistance, see, if we're doing the precinct work correctly, then we've built relationships within our neighborhood.
	Right now, if I went to my next-door neighbor and said, hey, Greg, let me take your ballot, he's going to say no.
	But, you know, if we've been having neighborhood groups of the neighborhood get together for coffee and pizza, you know, And they know me and I know them.
	They're going to say, hey, yeah, let's all just put our ballots in a box and Jill's going to take them for us.
	And what are we doing to reach out to the disabled voters, people in nursing homes, the blind association, you know, all of the individuals who might be in veterans areas.
	Facilities. So there's so many groups out there that we need to be identifying and offering to help.
	The churches can be a good place for that.
	Some of the churches, not all the churches want to get involved in the politics.
	But yeah, those are real important things that we lack strategy around.
	So yeah, paying off the debt, fundraising, Then that precinct level work.
	We've got to be working grassroots efforts, getting as close to the voter as we can.
	And then that's how we're going to be effective with the early voting messages, the voter assistant messages.
	And also then the big component to all that is you've got to have the volunteers to do it.
	So, you know, I think it's good that in the past couple of months, Jesse's kind of taken a page from all of the Republican clubs that have always worked with having committees.
	We need these committees.
	We need committees focused on campaigns and legislation.
	But we need to build them.
	Because I'll tell you, Vim, as has existed previously, this last election and the elections before, everybody, all the Republican clubs have Learn to operate out around the county.
	So it was like, we don't want to be a part of the dysfunction.
	We're going to do our own thing.
	So they've worked out around it.
	Now, one of the problems that could potentially happen is, well, now that the Clark County Republican Party has a committee that's focused on precinct work, but we've got Nevada CAN doing precinct work that they've been doing for seven years.
	Now we've got, we've got the American Christian Coalition who is Trying to do precinct work.
	And then you've got a few other PACs that are out there doing precinct work.
	Unless we're all communicating what we're doing, we're going to start tripping over each other.
	You could end up having multiple precinct captains in a precinct.
	And that becomes confusing to the voter, right?
	So again, I see the party needs to be a hub.
	We need to have strong working relationships with all the other clubs.
	And if I got contacted as the chair that, gosh, the Nevada Republican Club is going to do XYZ function, there's going to be mass communication out to the whole party.
	Hey, you have an opportunity to participate in this.
	Yeah. Hey, this candidate is having an event here.
	If you're interested, the county party in primaries, you shouldn't be endorsing.
	Jesse and I were in a debate because a lot of people have complained that he endorsed Jim Marchant and Jim's kickoff and that he clearly is endorsing Trump.
	Now, honestly, I think the majority of voters in Clark County are Trumpers.
	I know all four of us that are running for office, you know, we think Trump's been one of the best presidents ever, you know.
	But when you represent a group of people, when you oversee an assembly, you have to be impartial and you have to ensure that everyone in the assembly feels that Whatever candidate they support is treated the same.
	So if you had a rally for this person, did you invite this person?
	Did you invite that person?
	Did you invite that person?
	Because one thing I know, not everybody in the Republican Party right now, there's other people running.
	And are we giving those individuals their Republicans?
	Are we giving them the same opportunity to communicate their message?
	And so it's just a fairness.
	Now, I personally can definitely be committed to a certain candidate, but I shouldn't, when I'm in front of the Assembly of People, allow any level of bias.
	So we were in a debate with the Filipino club, Rudy Was the moderator.
	And he asked us this question.
	Should a chair actually endorse a candidate?
	And I said, no, absolutely not.
	You represent an assembly of people.
	You need to be fair and unbiased.
	And you need to give equal opportunity to everyone.
	And Jesse comes up and says, oh, yes.
	Very theatrical. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
	What'd she say? But then he turns around and he does something entirely different.
	And what is that?
	Like he supported Marshalls?
	Well, yes, because, you know, who are the other candidates running?
	And were you there announcing them?
	No, you weren't. And you as the chair shouldn't have been there making that endorsement.
	What you as the chair does and says is viewed as the party.
	But if you're taking a position, you're not really speaking for the party.
	You're speaking for yourself, right?
	But you carry the title of the party chair, so then people think, oh, that's how everybody in the party feels.
	I think the members, what I encourage is get to know the candidates, attend their events, ask them questions.
	What are they going to do?
	The other thing I would say that voters need to do is make sure that you understand What is the candidate running for?
	And what is that job description?
	Because I can't tell you, Vim, the number of candidates that I saw running for office and they're like, oh, I'm going to do this, this, this.
	And they wouldn't have any capacity to do that because the race they were running for, that's not what that race is all about.
	So you have to like, well, what What is the difference between what a state senator does and a state assembly does?
	What are their responsibilities?
	What does the state treasurer do?
	What does this lieutenant governor do?
	I always thought Stavros did a really great job of articulating.
	Here's the things that the lieutenant governor is responsible for.
	And this is why my background suits me for this position because, oh, I'd be the head of the tourism department.
	Oh, I worked on city council.
	That's what I did all day long.
	You know, I'd be overseeing transportation.
	Oh, you know, so it was just like his background fit the duties and responsibilities.
	And sometimes these candidates run and their backgrounds Or their platforms aren't really what the job is all about.
	But I do believe every candidate needs to be given, you know, equal playing time, equal accessibility to the voters to share their message, and an equal sharing of events that they're having.
	That's why it's so critically important that, you know, like you can get so much stuff from so many people, you become very overwhelmed.
	But if we have a county hub, and I know that I can go on there and that calendar is updated daily with whatever events are going on with whatever candidates where it's linked to the different candidate sites.
	Then I don't have to worry about knowing 50 different candidate websites.
	I just know the party is the hub and I go to the hub and that's my resource to find out everything going on everywhere else.
	Now, let me ask you, I asked this from Jesse, too.
	I asked him why there isn't people knocking on doors right now, converting people, like, in terms of sharing, you know, what the Republican Party's about.
	Jesse was saying something like, I don't know, 600,000 doors were knocked on.
	And my question to him, and this is during the 2022 election, I think it was 500-something thousand, right?
	And my question to him is, why is it only that number?
	Why didn't we hit those doors times eight?
	I think you make some really valid points and I would back that up with the party sometimes gets fixated on a number like the quantity of what we did and then they lose sight of the quality of what we did.
	Now I shared with you I was on a team that made 21,000 phone calls and knocked on a lot of doors.
	So my perspective is, I was making calls for a candidate who was very focused on voter contact.
	Okay? Joe Lombardo ran a good campaign because when we were making calls, he wanted us to connect with a voter.
	So we didn't use a speed dialer.
	You dialed one number, something happened with that number.
	You either connected with the voter or you didn't, right?
	It was voter contact.
	I worked for another candidate, and it was the number of calls made.
	And honestly, in the same amount of time, I would get credit for three times the number of calls.
	But at the end of my call session, I might have actually only connected with three or four people, but I got credit for 600 calls.
	Now, see, when you're only interested in the number...
	And not the quality of what's really important.
	The other thing that frustrated me last time is so much of what we did was only focused on Republicans, you know?
	And then what I found is we would go knock on this door and a lot of times the data we were provided was just wrong.
	Like the person didn't live there and the people that did had been there for five years, you know?
	And we're going there asking to speak to Vim Miller.
	And they're like, I don't know who that is.
	Oh, well, I'm totally just moved here.
	No, we've lived here for five years.
	So our data was off a lot.
	But it got down to where we were knocking on the door of a house.
	And this pack was knocking on the door.
	And this pack was knocking on the door.
	And a lot of people were getting very frustrated because it was just like too much.
	And so this is again where I say you have to coordinate your efforts.
	And the other thing that frustrated me is I would say, why am I only knocking on the door of a Republican?
	Shouldn't I also be knocking on the door of the independent, that undecided voter?
	I get it. They can tell if it's a hardcore Democrat, right?
	We're not going to change that person's mind.
	Just like somebody could come to my door, they're never going to change my mind.
	But But there's probably that group that didn't vote last time.
	It's a little disengaged.
	They have a history of flip-flopping.
	See, those people we can connect with.
	And to your point, look, something else that sets me apart from all of these candidates is I was heavily engaged in the legislative session.
	So I was spending a couple hours every day getting up, getting in on Nellis, finding out what bills were out there.
	On Nellis, making my supporter opposition, writing letters, calling in to testify, or going down to the Grant Sawyer Building to testify.
	So I'll just throw out AB 400.
	Now this was a bill that the governor wanted, okay?
	That room was packed with people, and half of the room was packed with children.
	So I was so disappointed that the arrogant Democrats on that committee, number one, did not acknowledge the children in the room, did not thank them for being there, did not allow them to be a part of this process, this governmental process.
	And the committee spent so long doing committee work that by the time they got around to any public comment, It was about 9 o'clock at night.
	And these children had stood in line.
	They had their little note cards.
	They were so excited to speak.
	And they were not given an opportunity to speak.
	And then they started dwindling away, going home.
	Obviously, they were going to have to go to bed.
	These two cute little boys stayed there.
	It was 10 o'clock. They still didn't get to speak.
	They were never given a forum and that's the consumer.
	That's what this bill is all about, right?
	So shame on them for that display.
	But then the other thing that was said was they were more interested in an ability to legislate parents They were more interested in, if only I could legislate parents.
	So all of these children deserve a great opportunity to learn.
	I know that education is important to the parents in a lot of these minority communities.
	And we failed the children.
	We failed the children by not passing AB 400.
	We have failed Drastically impacted a lot of children who now were going to the charter school that now lost the funding and now have to go back to a public school that's going to set them back.
	Look at our public schools.
	We're the worst schools in the nation.
	We have gutted the grading scale.
	They've lowered proficiency standards based upon your race.
	And they basically are telling children, we don't think you're capable of learning.
	And so instead of raising the bar and having our children reach and perform higher levels, We're saying, hey, it's okay if you can only, you know, if only 27% of black kids can do math and 32% of Hispanic kids, you know, whatever. So our standards are so low, and therefore that's how children, you know, are performing.
	Wow. Wow.
	That is absolutely tragic.
	I can't believe that's even something that has been permissible.
	And frankly, like, let's be real here, the country is horrible in terms of our educational ranking on a worldwide level.
	So you're talking about, you know, number 4950 in a country that is not doing that great in general.
	Yes. So, you know, I certainly hope that's a message that's powerful that we need to get out there.
	We need to get parents angry.
	And these parents need to turn up and out and vote.
	And they need to vote out anyone that in the state legislature that did not support education for their children.
	We need to vote out anyone that wants their, you know, that would say that your daughter has to be in a dressing room with, you know, a male.
	You know, so being part of the legislative process is critically important, and it's going to be important in the messaging that we do to win elections.
	Yeah. Now, let's talk about ballot harvesting.
	You talked about it a little bit earlier.
	I mean, how do we, in the Republican Party, how is it possible to get an organization strong enough to actually deal with a lot of the ballot harvesting issues, knowing that, you know, you're looking at large areas and, you know, it's going to be a challenge catching up to the Democrats because they've been used to doing that sort of thing for at least two election cycles.
	Yeah, and they pay people to do it.
	Exactly. I mean, you know, I keep hearing the word volunteer, volunteer, volunteer, and I'm talking about through, you know, interviews with Jesse, especially a lot of volunteers, and I'm just wondering, is there that many people volunteering right now?
	Aren't people really stretched in?
	Is this something that we need proper budgets for so they're paid, so they can do it properly?
	We know they're going to show up. Part of me would like to think that a voter is just not going to give their ballot to anybody, right?
	Mm-hmm. I like to think that.
	So I think that's where a lot of that precinct work comes in because if you build a relationship in your neighborhood and you're seen as the person who's really, really involved in this process and that you're here to help them make sure that their ballot gets where it needs to be and gets counted, that's what they want to know.
	They want to know that I get to vote and my vote's going to count.
	So there's definitely opportunity for us to help them with that.
	They may have certain family members, for example, that aren't even mobile, that can't even get out of their house.
	And if we can identify those, then we can drive by and pick it up.
	Old people's homes, by the way, or elderly homes, whatever the proper Name for it is now.
	I mean, when I was knocking on doors, there just seemed to be a lot of those kind of homes that people were missing out on.
	You know, it's like there's literally one complex.
	You've got hundreds of elderly.
	Most of them are Republicans.
	Right. Yeah.
	So definitely, we've got to do a better job with that.
	But it's making people feel confident that Who do they give it to?
	I think, you know, that's one of the things that churches are trying to do is they're trying to get churches to put up the ballot boxes so the church members can feel okay.
	It's at church.
	You know, it's secure.
	I know it's going to be taken.
	I know it's going to be turned in.
	Not all churches want to get involved with that, but it's also why you would need to, you know, like if you were working in a precinct in a neighborhood and you said, hey, we're going to We're going to be at XYZ Park or XYZ Community Center.
	Swing by. We'll be able to answer any questions you have about your ballot.
	And we'll have a box search if you want to turn it in.
	I can swing by there, grab a hamburger.
	A lot of people have questions, especially as they relate to the nonpartisan races and the judicial races.
	And you can be there as a resource.
	So you're setting up an opportunity to be a resource and make it easy for people to vote.
	Mm-hmm. Very cool.
	Very cool. Jill, this has actually been really awesome having you on here and getting a feel for your background.
	I mean, I definitely...
	The whole businesswoman thing is definitely, I think, knowing how...
	You know, we saw how Trump ran the country as a business, and I think that's...
	It's one of the things I liked about Trump.
	See, what Trump was able to do was recognize this is the problem, okay?
	Now I have to focus on the solution.
	And... I look at my running for Clark County the same way.
	He recognized the ineffectiveness and inefficiency of government.
	He recognized that it was full of a lot of self-serving people.
	He wanted to clean it up.
	He wanted to run it like it was a business.
	That's why our economy was doing so well, because he challenges the status quo.
	You know, we give these government contracts and we give people two years to build whatever.
	And he would challenge it and say, we're going to have less people and they've got to get it done in one year.
	And what is the cost savings to that?
	You know, so he would look at what do we need?
	How do we make it happen?
	Spending the least amount of money in the fastest way.
	You know, that business owner mindset.
	And I look at Clark County the same way.
	Jesse can get on these shows and he deflects from the reality of the situation and he wants to paint a rosy picture.
	And I get that because nobody likes to, you know, like, you know, it's difficult to talk about the party because I'm not here to tarnish the party.
	But I have to be a realist and say, you can't hide behind the facts.
	You have to be transparent.
	You have to just be honest with people.
	This is a problem, and I've got the solutions to fix it.
	My background shows that I've got the ability.
	Like, I wouldn't have been with my company for 23 years, promoted to the roles that I was promoted with, with responsibilities that I had, you know, and with the awards that I won, you know, because corporate is...
	I mean, it's dog-eat-dog.
	It is all about, what did you do for me?
	Not yesterday, but today.
	Here is the goal.
	And you better find a way to accomplish it.
	And no excuses are allowed.
	It's all revenue-driven.
	This is what we need to do.
	How are you going to do it?
	And get it done.
	And that's what you have to do.
	And the party needs to be run the same way.
	Very cool, very cool. Jill, is there anything we didn't touch upon that you'd want to mention in closing?
	Pretty much the mic is yours.
	I think the party has a big decision to make, and I think they really have to boil it down to a few simple things.
	Understanding what the duties of the chair are.
	We have to win elections, which we didn't do.
	We have to fundraise, which we didn't do.
	We have to grow membership.
	Membership was really pretty dismal until it was election time, and now we've all been able to get a bunch of people to jump in because there's going to be an election, okay?
	But then, who is the person best suited to lead the party over the next two years?
	I'm the only candidate who has a resume.
	You know, the team building, the problem solving, handling the multi-million dollar budgets.
	I'm the only candidate who doesn't need additional income because I'm financially secure.
	I'm the only candidate who has the time to put in that this job is going to require to be successful.
	I am the only candidate who last election cycle was making the phone calls, knocking on the doors with a team of people and organizing fundraisers.
	And not only did I organize fundraisers for the candidates, I also donated to the campaigns.
	So, you know, I am also the only candidate who has relationships in And this desire to build a party that connects with people in our community and builds a party that looks like our communities.
	And a party that we can all be so proud of, who all know what it means to be a part of the Clark County Republican Party.
	Like, I don't understand why when somebody doesn't...
	Last year I was, well actually the past two years, I've been knocking on doors welcoming new voters.
	Mm-hmm. And that's a program that every single time when we know that somebody's registered Republican and we know, there should be immediate contact with that family.
	And then that family should be invited to come and participate and be a part of the Clark County Republican Party.
	Right now, they don't even know.
	So, you know, first of all, we need to re-engage and connect with all Republicans.
	And again, we need better branding.
	We need to You know, market through traditional means, social media, digital media.
	And really, again, it's getting people rallied around what's the vision?
	What is the purpose?
	Like, put aside a lot of our petty differences.
	If we're focused on electing Republicans, let's all get on the bandwagon and let's work really hard and make that happen.
	What is the vision? I mean, how would you sum up the vision in, like, an elevator pitch?
	Yeah. Connecting people.
	Connecting the party. It's people.
	You know, one of the things I always say is, at my core, it's heart of service.
	I believe that, you know, love God and love others.
	And that's what our party needs to do.
	You know, we need to love other people.
	I certainly, I know that people have a, it's a big vote.
	They've got multiple choices.
	But truly, I am the only one with the background and the experience.
	And not just that, them.
	I have the support of all of the leadership Of the different Republican clubs and organizations.
	And these are people who've been around me, who've seen my passion, who've seen my abilities and skill sets, who know how hard I work.
	And I think that the party would benefit greatly from my abilities and experience.
	Yeah, yeah. You know, this is the first time we've actually met you and interviewed you, unlike, you know, just in full transparency, because I pretty much explain my relationships with all individuals.
	You know, Johnny, Brew, I've known for a while, Jesse.
	Frankly, and I said this on the podcast with Jesse, Jesse was actually the reason I started going to these Republican Party meetings.
	So I've had a relationship with Jesse.
	I've known Johnny. You know, Nephi is a little bit more new in my world.
	And this is literally the first conversation we've had.
	I gotta tell you, like, there's a lot of upsides I see.
	You know, the fact that you're a businesswoman, that you're able to organize groups, that you have that corporate experience.
	I mean, all that experience is very important, I think, in trying to, you know, build a big machine with multiple tentacles.
	And, you know, you're talking about the minority groups.
	That's amazing, too. I mean, I would just throw out there like I actually think 24-7, I mean, not literally 24-7, but like at least eight hours a day across Every day of the year we need to have people out there knocking on doors not just wait for elections because I actually think that's hurting us because there's so many people out there and I know this from going around with my business partner at America Happens talking to people on the streets I mean there's people that are you know this You know what I mean?
	They just need a little nudge.
	It's like you tell them certain things about realities in their life.
	Come to our side.
	We're much more about freedoms.
	We're much more about not jabbing everybody.
	We're much more about constitutional freedoms.
	We've converted people on the streets.
	And seeing how many people there are to convert, I just think we're...
	Frankly, I think we're doing a disservice to ourselves for not...
	You are preaching my language.
	I consistently say to people...
	Anytime I've had the ability to actually just sit down with someone and say, do you like the idea of growing the government?
	Do you think growing the government is a good thing?
	Have you ever had any experience with a government entity like Social Security or calling any government office?
	What's that experience like?
	And you know, they'll say, oh my God, it's so frustrating.
	You can't get anybody.
	It's red tape.
	It's totally ineffective.
	It's totally inefficient. And you're like, okay, so you agree that it's not good to grow the government.
	You know, like we just saw during COVID, the government overreach and mandate that private businesses close their doors.
	That's not the role of the government.
	How dare the government do that?
	How dare the government tell us we couldn't go to church The churches couldn't be open, but yet you could go to Walmart, you could buy groceries, you could go to the liquor store, you'd go to the strip club, but you couldn't go to church.
	So you can get people to agree because they don't want the government telling them how to live or what to do, right?
	And then you start asking other questions.
	Every single time, Do you think we have a good educational system?
	No. And so you're able to come along people and say, gosh, you're for less government.
	You're for lower taxes.
	You're a Republican.
	And they laugh, but then they start getting it like it starts clicking up here.
	Could I be honest with you about the issue I've seen with every single candidate, honestly, including yourself?
	I think all of your approaches are way too elementary, and I don't mean to say that in a critical way.
	I say this with every single candidate, Nephi included, yourself, Jesse, and Johnny.
	In the sense that there's a very clear evidentiary-based summation of what is to come.
	You know, there's things like Agenda 2030, Agenda 2045.
	You listen to people like Klaus Schwab talk.
	You listen to people like Bill Gates talk.
	You look at what the UN is trying to do.
	It's very clear what their intentions are, you know?
	And frankly, what they want with these 15-minute cities to stick us in these essentially concentration camps, to take, you know, digital IDs, you know, CBDC. I haven't heard any candidate talk about that.
	That's literally a slavery system, completely anti-our constitution.
	And it's very sad because I don't think any of the candidates have the guts to talk about it.
	I don't think any of the candidates in 2024 have the guts to talk about it because that is going against a worldwide agenda.
	How could you say we don't like globalist elites?
	Like imagine in 1776 or in our past, you know, we didn't want to have a tea party because we might, you know, insult the elitist globalists or we might seem too controversial or conspiracy, you know, be conspiracy theorists, right?
	The fact is, all this evidence exists.
	It's in their words.
	They said it plain and clear as far as what their agenda is.
	And their agenda is basically human slavery.
	Their agenda is to stick us in a computer, make us a hologram, three-dimensional.
	Their agenda is to build a computer god.
	This is evidentiary-based stuff.
	Nobody's talking about it. People are too scared to talk about that when that is the inherent issue.
	And I feel like, sorry, I'm passionate about this.
	All I hear Republicans talking about is the constitutional things.
	Oh, Second Amendment. Oh, like, you know, you actually push the envelope a little bit because you're talking about minorities outreach and all that stuff.
	But it's like the same...
	Talking points. And what has happened in those same talking points?
	Guess what? It's been a march towards tyranny, gradual march towards tyranny.
	Now it's accelerated. And unless we talk about those issues that these global elite want to make us into slaves, literally, then I feel like it's a losing battle at that point.
	So let me piggyback on that for a second, because I agree with you with the things that you've said.
	We probably haven't talked about it on a county level, because Those issues that you've mentioned are probably more federal race issues.
	But I do want to piggyback on it because I totally agree that the game plan is we can't own a car.
	We see that happening right now.
	We can't own cars.
	They don't want us to own a home.
	If you manage to have saved any money, they want to take that from you.
	You know, I got the opportunity a couple years ago to visit Miami and go into Little Havana, and I was fascinated.
	I was totally fascinated.
	And man, there were Trump signs, flags everywhere.
	And I sat in a coffee shop and talked to an individual whose heritage, well, actually it wasn't a coffee shop.
	We had gone to a cigar bar.
	I don't smoke cigars, but the guys wanted to stop by, you know?
	And so the owner of this cigar place The family history was when Castro overtook Cuba, he went around making everybody sign over their property rights.
	Like, can you imagine the government coming up to your house and saying, you don't own this house anymore.
	You sign your house over to us.
	So this particular family, the guy says, oh, no, no, no, no.
	This home, our land, our farm, was my great-grandfather's.
	It passed from my great-grandfather to my grandfather.
	Now it's passed to me.
	I will be passing it to my children.
	And he got put in prison for 10 years.
	So 10 years go by, same thing.
	Now, by this time, they've already taken it, right?
	But they still want him to sign the papers.
	He goes back to prison for another 10 years.
	By this time, he's becoming like really well known and Castro starts being afraid of him.
	He got put back in prison, I think, for another 10 years.
	And then when he was released, Castro said, get him on a plane and fly him out of the country because he'd become so famous.
	But the scary thing was to think, and he told stories.
	They told stories about how just to keep people fearful, they would have their police walk down the road and just all of a sudden pull out a gun and shoot somebody dead.
	Because you could control people through fear.
	And yeah, we can see when you have people like Bill Gates who wants to control your food.
	When you have China buying up land and buying it outside of military bases, like these are all things we need to be very concerned about because you can see their playbook.
	And I have friends who have immigrated from countries that were beautiful countries, Brazil, Venezuela, and they say now how Socialism has so destroyed those countries.
	And, you know, we have a generation of children right now.
	They're not taught civics in school.
	They, you know, when you look at the statistics of people saying, I'm not proud to be an American.
	We have people who won't stand for our flag.
	If you don't raise the next generation to love America as much as I love America and what it represents and the freedom that it represents, and you bring up a generation of individuals that all they want is the government to handle money, And that's why they dumbed down the educational system.
	And that's why they want to separate children from their parents and tell the little kids in school, hey, oh, you want to play with the boys?
	You know, it's a natural thing.
	A little girl wants to play, you know, and the boys don't want her to round because, you know.
	And all of a sudden she's sad because the boys are playing and she can't play and the teacher goes, oh, you want to be a boy?
	Well, let's not tell your parents.
	I'm going to start calling you.
	And yeah, you can see all of these things contribute.
	We can go back to the Nazis, communism, when they told children, rat on your parents and turn children against their parents.
	They're destroying the role of families, the parental structure.
	Yeah. When you've got a minor that can get an aspirin at school without parental permission, but they can go in and have an abortion, or somebody can bring them across state lines.
	Last night I saw The Sound of Freedom.
	Have you seen that? I know all about it.
	I haven't seen it yet. I mean, oh my gosh.
	The children that are living in sexual slavery.
	I mean, this is the sort of thing I'm talking about.
	I mean, I just find... And this is a general criticism, by the way.
	I gotta tell you, as far as comparative analysis, you're very impressive, Jill.
	You're very impressive. And first time, like we've ever spoken, you have so many skill sets that could be of value, you know?
	Generally speaking, I feel like all the candidates, including the candidates that run for office, for Congress, for Senate that are currently declared that they're running, I mean, they are coming at this situation from a place of caution.
	And what I hear on the other side, and this is, you know, like I said, this is going to be episode probably 125, 126.
	Having interviewed, you know, 20-something frontline doctors, having interviewed whistleblowers.
	I mean, their agenda, if you look at what Agenda 2030 or Agenda 2045 is, it's like we are the carbon they want to get rid of.
	They want to replace us with machines.
	This is a fact. I mean, there's not a conspiracy theory.
	They just tried to get us all to take this death jab.
	This is a death jab.
	This is Dr. Peter McCullough, who I've interviewed twice, and probably another 30 frontline doctors.
	I actually have them, believe it or not, I'm part of the frontline doctors group.
	I get to have conversations with these guys every day.
	They say this is a death jab.
	They say the graphene oxide is there because you mix that with 5G, you can literally cook a human being.
	You can literally cook a human being.
	Literally. They send out the microwaves.
	You have that graphene oxide in you.
	You're fried chicken, basically.
	So, you know, you look at all of these factors.
	I mean, the situation is a lot more dire than our politicians are saying.
	And frankly, I just find so much caution in there.
	I just, you know, look, I hope this race goes well.
	So, Jim, I just got to chime in on that because I, too, am so anti.
	I won't even...
	Dignify it by calling it a vax.
	Yeah. Well, it's a death jab.
	The right term is death jab.
	And, you know, I've yet to hear any single politician, actually other than myself when I ran, and maybe Joey Gilbert and a couple of others.
	And granted, we didn't win.
	And you know what? It's like if...
	My issue is if...
	The price of winning is supporting a Holocaust.
	I don't want to win. I'd rather be the voice that is loud and clear about what's going on right now because me winning is not...
	I'd rather save lives. I'd rather tell people, look guys, you're walking in a Holocaust.
	Don't take that jab. You know, they could cook you with 5G. You know, don't get into their 15-minute cities.
	Get out of the central bank digital currency system.
	That's going to turn into basically a Chinese communist agenda.
	I mean, these are the things that I think is important for people to know because, for example, the central bank digital currency, it's coming this month.
	It's coming this month. Is there a single Republican talking about the repercussions of having that when it's tied to a digital ID that then they could shut off, literally destroy your life, a.k.a.
	what Trudeau has already done?
	Trudeau has done that in Canada.
	So it's not like, oh, this is a foreign thing.
	He just did it in Canada.
	Like, you know, and it's like, that's what they're preparing us for.
	And the sad thing is...
	So my point was going to be this.
	Listen, part of this plan is that our elderly population becomes expendable.
	You are too costly.
	To pay for your medical care.
	With the flu, the coronavirus, they were able to kill off a large percentage of our elderly population.
	Exactly, exactly. I mean, it's a great holocaust in the history of humankind before our eyes.
	And I've yet to hear a politician say it is the greatest holocaust in the history of humankind.
	And it's not just the elderly, by the way.
	There's children dying.
	There's children dying. There's adults dying.
	You know, you hear about, oh, 50 years old, brain aneurysm.
	I mean, this sort of thing never happened before, you know, and it's happening in mass.
	And then we had the medications with the hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin.
	We had the medications.
	That could have been used for the coronavirus, and yet they were prohibited.
	Doctors were prohibited by our government from prescribing things that they knew would be effective.
	Yeah. And, you know, I mean, we could get into a conversation about doctors and there were 99.5% of them pretty much were cowards.
	0.5% of them stood up.
	I think the total number is maybe 200 doctors nationwide out of a million doctors.
	Out of a million doctors, 200 doctors actually had the guts to stand up.
	So, you know, it's pretty amazing stuff.
	But, you know, Jill, overall, very impressive for a Clark County, you know, chairperson in terms of all this other stuff.
	I mean, I am disheartened.
	I love this discussion.
	No, no. I mean, I'm fire.
	You get me on stage there.
	I think everything that the Republican Party is doing wrong, frankly.
	You know, let me give you a few things here.
	I'm going to drop some bombs on you, okay?
	We have two branches of government controlled by the bar.
	There's no checks and balances within our government what our founding fathers wanted, right?
	How does that work where you have two Branches of government controlled by the legal societies.
	Nobody says anything about that.
	And then they wonder why is there this illegal persecution of the former president?
	or why are they persecuting people using the courts on a selective basis where you have, you know, a guy that's selling crystal meth over here with a trunk load of fentanyl that could kill eight million people letting, you know, being put out on bail, but then you have January 6th protesters that literally took a walk to the bathroom in the Capitol.
	I'm not talking about the ones that were planning nonsense.
	I'm talking about literally people that took a stroll through the Capitol doing years in jail, right?
	And then you have, you know, I'm sorry, it's not like Michael McDonald, Clark County, you know, Republican Party chair, sorry, Nevada GOP chair has been very vocal about that.
	We should be so loud right now about these issues because these are literally the roadway we're seeing.
	It's like a clean lane to tyranny, to slavery.
	And the next step of that is you're the carbon that they want to get rid of.
	So we're essentially talking about the greatest Holocaust ever, biblical proportions.
	You know, this is much more than King Herod, you know, killing off all the firstborns so you could kill off Jesus.
	I mean, this is like, frankly, they want to reduce the population.
	We've seen the Georgia Guidestones.
	It's great that somebody blew that up, but they want to reduce it to 500 million.
	So that means that eight...
	Billion of us are expendable, and guess what?
	Six billion people took those jabs, and they're dropping like flies.
	I mean, the level of conspiracy and evil that's happening right now, I don't see nobody dealing with a head-on.
	And you know what? Here's a controversial thing.
	Everybody loves Donald Trump. Why isn't Donald Trump talking about the death jabs?
	Really, why isn't he talking about the population control agenda?
	It's happening. People are dying.
	Why is this not being talked about?
	So anyway, as you can tell from the Blood Money podcast, we kind of, you know...
	We don't play politics. We say it the way it is.
	You know what I mean? We're not here, you know, like we get phone calls.
	Hey, you know, take out the Nephi episode.
	It's bad for the Republican Party.
	No, you know what's bad for the Republican Party is the Holocaust that's happening right now.
	That's going to kill your children. That's going to sexualize your children.
	That, you know, people running around crazies with purple hair wanting to cut off your kid's penis.
	I mean, It is just so crazy right now.
	And I just feel like you could tell my volume, it went up.
	You know, the passion went up is because these issues are not being dealt with.
	And I know that's not on your shoulders because you are a great chairperson candidate for that role.
	I guess this is more...
	I have the honor of leading a group of women called the Battle Born Republican Women.
	And when my Battleborn sisters, we all get together, they are all as passionate as you on these issues.
	I mean, they are dialed in to these issues, and we love to get in these big discussions because we do care.
	I mean, we do care, you know?
	And we're trying to help change it, you know?
	But it is...
	I mean, I think most of us sit here in just shock and disbelief that our country's even gotten to the level it's gotten to.
	And I think a lot of these things that they're doing, it's an experimentation to see how gullible people are and how you can manipulate people.
	And it is troubling to see that people will fall for some of this.
	Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we've seen it over and over, you know, in the genocides, Holocaust, you know, people are brainwashed literally to walk into their own deaths, which is kind of what, not kind of what they did.
	That's exactly what they did with this, with this jab.
	And I would love to, you know, I would love to do everything I can to, you know, put this word out.
	This is what we do on the Blood Money Podcast, because these are the serious issues.
	And frankly, I feel like, you know, most of our Political class doesn't even want to talk about it.
	You know, I get it because this is stuff that starts riots.
	You know, people are like, oh, really, they're trying to, you know, kill us all.
	I mean, some people are going to lose their minds and do crazy things.
	But that's the fact of what's going on, unfortunately.
	Yep. Jill, you're awesome.
	It's been great getting to know you.
	Thank you. Thank you. And thank you for allowing me this passionate rant at the end.
	You know, you're awesome.
	I'm really glad we did this podcast.
	And again, I just emphasize, you know, you have the businesswoman chops, you have, you know, dealing with large groups.
	And I think, you know, you've been doing a lot of the right things and wish you the best of luck, you know?
	Hey, thank you so much.
	I appreciate it. Thank you so much, Joel.
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