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Oct. 1, 2023 - Blood Money
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The New World we are All Facing w/ Dr. Jen VanDeWater (Blood Money Episode 119)
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Today we have a very special guest, Dr.
Jen Vandewater.
How are you doing? I'm good.
Happy to be here. Thank you so much for coming on to the Blood Money Podcast.
And as I was telling you earlier, Dr.
Jen, we doubled this for our Meet the Frontline Doctors series.
And what that is, is really about talking about the frontline doctors that stood up against a tyranny, that decided to do their own research, that decided to, you know, come out and say, hey, this COVID vax is not what it was advertised to be, right?
And a lot of those people were attacked.
A lot of them, you know, the establishment doesn't like attacks against the medical industrial complex.
But you were one of the doctors that has actually been, you know, very upfront about what's going on.
And currently you work for the Wellness Company, which is one of the premier companies that is actually helping people to get over the damage from this Vax by products like Spike Support, Immune Booster.
So, Dr. Jen, you know, let's just dive right into it.
Tell us a little bit about your background, your journeys, and what led you to this juncture that you are in today.
Well, happy to. I am a doctor of pharmacy, and I graduated 2006, but I've been in pharmacy since 1998.
I started as a pharmacy technician, loved the field, loved being involved in the community, and decided to make my way through pharmacy college to become a pharmacist.
But in that short window, by the time I started college and graduated and was out practicing My own.
The industry became robotic.
It became about profit.
It was no longer, you know, counseling the patient, spending time with the patient and really looking at their body as a whole.
It was just fill scripts and, you know, now we're going to do immunizations.
And so when I noticed that things were kind of changing in the, you know, chain setting, I thought maybe I've got to find a new niche.
And so I went to the independent pharmacies, the mom and pops that we have in our small communities, and I really felt like it was a good place, a good fit.
But as I started to realize the overreaching arm of Big Pharma through the insurance companies were still pulling the strings.
And these independent pharmacies that stood in the communities for decades were really being hit hard.
I mean, reimbursements were so low, sometimes even in the negative.
And there were times I actually had to call a local CVS or Walgreens because we could not afford to fill a prescription for a patient because we were losing like $300.
We actually were having to pay the insurance company to fill a prescription for a patient.
It was so ridiculous.
So I really enjoyed being on the front lines in the community through these independent pharmacies.
But things started to really take a turn right before 2020 when I started to realize the increase of the overreaching arm through medication therapy management, MTMs.
And this is where the insurance companies Give notice to the pharmacy and say, hey, we've got a patient who is type 2 diabetic and they're not on a cholesterol medication for prevention.
And so I started to put two and two together.
You know, all our medical records are electronic now, and who has access to that is but our insurance companies.
And our insurance companies are, again, the overreaching arm for Big Pharma.
And they want people on more and more medications and they use the guise of like, oh, this is for your benefit.
This is for your well-being. I started to realize this was not for the patient's well-being.
Why are we preventing something when it's not even happened yet?
And why are we changing?
People's medications without a patient seeing the provider.
Why are we being asked to reach out to the provider and change their medication regimen without that patient seeing the provider?
And a lot of times, providers would say, oh, this is coming from the pharmacist.
They must have had a consult with the patient.
You know, it's really a very, very, very dark and dangerous world, and they're playing with people's health.
So when I started to realize this was happening and started to realize people were being overprescribed, the end of 2019, I started to research maybe working alongside doctors in providers' offices and maybe being an advocate and a voice for the patient to stop the overprescribing before it happened.
And letting the doctors know what MTMs were really about.
So January of 2020, I had a job lined up.
I put my notice in at work.
And by March of 2020, that job was terminated due to COVID. So here I was on the sidelines watching everything kind of transpire.
For the first few weeks, I was unsure.
I didn't know what to think. What is this?
What's happening? But then I started to realize as I was watching those press briefings and heard about hydroxychloroquine, I realized there was more going on here.
And the push for this injection made it very clear there was a bigger agenda because why would we silence a medication that was safe and effective It's only to push the agenda for this injection.
And so through that, I started speaking out, speaking out locally, speaking at events.
And at one of the events I spoke at, I actually got the privilege of meeting Dr.
Heather Gessling. And we became friends and we stayed in touch.
And when the wellness company was in its baby, baby place of one week old, she called me and said, I need you on this team.
I need to have you here because you're a warrior.
You see the truth.
You know what's going on. And so I was thankful enough to join the team.
So that's kind of a very brief overview of how I got to where I'm at.
So was there any like, I guess when you started joining the right side, was there any backlash?
Did you have any problems? How was that transition for you?
Yeah, because I wasn't working, like actually practicing pharmacy at the time, I don't believe I saw as much backlash as others.
But I did connect to people in just not my community, but all over the world and started asking questions and realizing that there were a lot of people, mostly pharmacists I was talking to, who were feeling this.
They did not want to give this injection.
Some were fired from their jobs for refusing to give this.
Some walked in and said, I can't do this anymore, and just grabbed their stuff and walked out.
There were a lot of pharmacists, my colleagues, who were just sickened by what they were seeing.
And I was hearing that that last independent pharmacy I worked at Woke?
And I was like, wait a second, what's going on here?
They were putting in the control cabinet with your morphine and your, you know, hardcore narcotics.
They were putting your ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and they had a book to log out when it was dispensed.
I mean, this was, I was like, wait a second, what is happening?
You're logging out medications that are not controlled.
I just was blown away.
If someone came in with an antibiotic at the previous pharmacy I worked at, if it wasn't the right diagnosis code, they wouldn't fill it for the patient.
I mean, these are just ludicrous things that I've never heard of happening in practice.
Wow. I mean, did you ever imagine that there would be this level of tyranny?
I mean, we're talking about something that is potentially, well, I won't even say potentially, that is causing damage, that is causing deaths, that is causing myocarditis.
So we're seeing this, you know, I would even say genocide in front of us via VEX. And I mean, were you shocked that people were basically being forced into this at the price of their career to cause harm?
Yeah, exactly. And sadly, because people believe what's coming down from the higher ups, they were looking at it as it's not causing harm.
They were looking at it as we are saving lives.
You, who wants to use hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin, that is causing harm.
But you try to You know, ration with these people and say, hey, listen, let's talk this out.
There's no talking it out because they are so caught in that mindset that those meds now are bad when we've been using them for decades and have not had a problem.
And in other countries, they're over the counter.
So it's a little shocking to see that they could be so disconnected from what reality is and it shows how powerful the programming is through college and the institutions and the training.
You know, I have to do continuing education credits.
I could see the programming and propaganda so obviously that some other people just read it and believe it and they use that as their base of how to treat people and it's scary.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, what happened to doctors doing their own research?
I mean, has it been, are they so indoctrinated to a point where they refuse, I mean, the logical things like ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, didn't one of those win like some kind of big prize, a Nobel Peace Prize or something?
Which one was it? Ivermectin.
Ivermectin. So, you know, that thing wins, you know, this big prize.
It's something that's worked for decades.
What happened to people's brains in all of this transaction?
Why is it all of a sudden it was such a great thing and then just because government or institutions say it's not, all of a sudden all that history is erased?
I mean, it kind of sounds a little illogical.
It does. And you know, this is a question I've asked myself and I've actually asked other providers and pharmacists, like, why do we see?
Why? Why is it I'm aware of this and they aren't?
And the only answer we have is it must be a spiritual thing.
We really don't know. I mean, there's no way to say why one can see something and why another cannot.
Cognitive dissonance, maybe.
Maybe they're just so used to falling in line that that feels normal and to be, I guess, a rebel, you know, is so not normal.
And they don't want to be picked on in society.
They don't want to speak out because when you do speak out and all eyes are on you, it causes problems amongst family and friends.
You know, the way I look at it is truth is truth.
Right is right. And I have to answer and be accountable for my actions.
And so when I see something, I'm certainly going to speak out.
And like you say, do the research.
I heard hydroxychloroquine mentioned.
I started doing the research.
That's how I was like, wait a second here.
And that started me to think something bigger is happening here.
It was in that moment when it hit me, something more is happening.
And it led me on a journey, an awakening journey into pharmacy, When I came across the Rockefeller Institute of Medicine, the Flexner Report of 1910, realizing, wait, everything I've been taught isn't real, isn't the truth? How did we get here?
Wait, pharmaceuticals are synthetic, petroleum-based medicine?
Why am I dispensing these to people?
Oh, wait, naturals do work?
I was like, yeah, I was really in a state of shock for a little bit to realize that everything I was taught, you know, was a lie.
I had to really go through and unlearn And relearn and understand the balance of when are pharmaceuticals necessary and why are we pushing them as first-line therapies?
Hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, definitely the exception to the rule because they worked.
So I am not anti all pharmaceuticals, but I just feel like it's so quick to just recommend someone, here's a pill, and send them on their way, but then not realizing the effects down the road of taking that prescription.
Yeah, I mean, we saw how the opiate epidemic, opiates were overprescribed.
It was clear that there was an agenda there.
All the studies were ignored.
All the damage was ignored that it was doing.
And for decades, this stuff caused people to literally destroy their families.
Deaths, I think 100,000 plus overdose deaths a year, which probably means that there's half a million or a million or more that are just suffering as addicts, you know, losing teeth.
I mean, I've seen these opiate addicts.
It's like, you know, second to crystal meth, you would say, in terms of the damage that it does to one, you know?
Kids dying left and right.
I mean, it's like there's a mini, not a mini genocide.
There's a genocide happening over there via opiates, right?
So that same industry then decides they want to push this COVID vaccine.
And the general public doesn't know how to do that.
This industry's, you know, reaped.
And I think about things like, what was that drug?
Ethalidomide in the 60s, right?
That was another thing that they pushed and said, oh, it's going to be great.
You need this. You need it.
And then all of a sudden you have kids popping up with no arms and missing feet and missing toes.
I mean, just ridiculous deformations, you know?
Why is it that it's, I mean, we're looking at an industry that is highly suspect.
I mean, how have they been able to survive this long and now cause this next level of carnage?
Yeah, it's probably follow the money.
That's really what it comes down to.
You know, Big Pharma owns advertising.
They own the media.
Really, when you break it down, it comes down to Big Pharma.
And then you have these pharmacies all across the nation and they are pushing out the mom and pops, those people who would Really talk to you and review your medication.
They are now mass producing people out of college who just follow guidelines and protocols.
And we are losing compassion and empathy to look at an individual and actually hear them and be able to help them and assist them where it's just, you only have to hear for the people programmed, you hear those key phrases.
Oh, you've got diabetes. You need this, this, this.
Like that's what it's become.
And again, I believe it's a spiritual component for those of us who are awake and who are aware, who truly want to help people, you know, and we're the ones that you say, like, we're being looked at, like, what happened?
It's like, well, when you start to research, you know, truth has a way of resonating with you.
And when I started to research and saw the stuff I was seeing, and I always was a skeptic, I was never...
Big Pharma, you know, pharmacist.
I was always opposite. I just never understood why until I put the big pieces together of the puzzle in 2020 and it was like, aha, there it is.
You know, that's who they are.
I found out who they were and I just did not want to be their mercenary dispensary for them anymore.
I wanted to truly help people and speak out So that people could be empowered to own their health and make the best choices, informed consent, and not have to go along with whatever's being pushed from some other entity that does not know you, doesn't care about you.
Like, I feel like I want to have a relationship with the people.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, is there a Christian component to this?
Because we're talking about how there's a spiritual war.
I noticed that a lot of the people that are standing up are Christians, and they see this as, you know, whether it's the Battle of Armageddon, whether it's what the Revelation's coming through, or whether it's just another example of great evil that you see in the Bible, you know, angels versus demons type stuff.
I mean, is there a Christian component to the people that are actually standing up for the truth?
I definitely think so.
Every time I talk to people, they have a belief in God.
They have a belief in creation.
They feel they are connected.
They feel they have a higher purpose.
They feel there's a calling for them to be here.
I've said this before.
I just did not fit in.
I never hung out with other pharmacists until now.
I've hung out with pharmacists and doctors that are like-minded.
But all through my years, Of, you know, practicing pharmacy.
I never went out with the pharmacist for dinner.
I never did all that because I just felt we were on different wavelengths.
We were not the same. And so I believe that through that, I was being protected and guided to this point I'm at in my life now to fully live out my purpose and my destiny.
And I actually had someone say to me once, I spoke at an event and I mentioned, you know, oh my gosh, I can't believe, you know, Big Pharma used me to do all this.
And then I kept going. And after the event, a woman came up to me and said, I have a message from God for you.
So, of course, I was like, well, what does God have to say?
I want to hear this. And she said, Big Pharma didn't use you.
God used you. He had to show you the corruption.
He had to show you how bad it was, how dark and sinister this industry was so that you can fight against it today, which is so true.
We would never know unless we're there.
Can't speak on anything unless it comes from experience.
Wow. Is preventative care has been a big topic that we've talked about on Blood Money.
So we interviewed a lot of doctors and we've talked about how essentially the medical industry is completely flawed because their version of trying to help you It's secure.
They wait until you get sick.
Then they tell you, you got to take a bunch of drugs.
You need chemotherapy. You need stents.
You need a heart transplant.
You need, you know, whatever, right?
It's always like a big ticket item, expensive drugs, expensive hospital bills.
That's where they want to lead you into.
But some of the doctors that we talked to are speaking about preventative therapy.
They're doing tests on people that then they could predict what is to come so they could avert those problems.
This is, you know, what we've called medicine 2.0.
What do you think about the direction of medicine right now?
Where is this going? Is medicine 2.0 coming?
Is preventative care coming?
Are we going to be able to fix the mess that is our medical industrial complex?
Yes, I definitely say yes, it's coming.
And I want to change the word from preventative to restorative because we need to restore our health.
We have been misled and misguided in so many ways that all those disease states that they claim is like preventative actually is from choices.
They have pushed on us foods that are actually not healthy and not helping our body maintain health.
They have pushed on us pharmaceuticals and avoided natural.
They've scared people to go out in the sun that they're lathering sunscreen on their body, which is a poison that you're then baking into your skin.
I mean, they have people in such fear Of everything and fear itself will increase inflammation.
So I really believe we have to restore ourselves back to how it was like a century ago.
You know, you think back to how our great grandparents and great grandparents lived We need to go back to that and maybe even a little further where we are self-sufficient, where we aren't relying on big government or big pharma, where we have a community.
I think local is really important as well.
Know who you have as neighbors.
Know your resources around you and not be so dependent on the bigs to give you what you ask for if you are, you know, in compliance with what they say.
I mean, that's just, you know, that's the facade.
It's false. I think that health is going to make a turn.
And with the wellness company, this is the beginning.
You know, we focus at the wellness company on building the new, not fighting the old.
If you fight the old, you're wasting energy and time.
So what do we do? We just pivot and we say, how can we help people?
We have supplements.
We have virtual care.
We have freedom from pharma, we have specialty programs, and we're adding more and more every day.
We've launched in Canada and we're looking to launch in other places.
Why? Because there's a need and we want to be able to help people in that need.
Is there, this is, we're talking about parallel systems, right?
Where we're building a whole new Medicine 2.0, using some of the principles we talked about, and hoping that the people that are stuck in that Medicine 1.0, a system that is, you know, quite tyrannical, will then be like, you know what, I'd rather be on this side.
That's what the hope is.
And you know, I'm aware, I'm sure you're aware, there are people that are just always going to want the medicine 1.0.
Okay, fine. It's your choice.
It's your choice. If that's what you want, then go.
We're still here. And at the wellness company, you know, we're not taking sides of, Oh, we're not including you and we're only accepting this kind.
That is not our stance at The Wellness Company.
We're here to help all people.
Vaccinated, unvaccinated, scared, people who are empowered.
We're here for all people.
We're not worried about what happens.
And if somebody that's in Medicine 1.0 has in a moment and says, you know what, I want to try this, try us, you know, because we're looking out for the betterment of people.
We're not looking to, you know, squash people, hurt people, and keep sick care going.
You guys are doing some really groundbreaking stuff at The Wellness Company.
When we're interviewing Heather during her Blood Money episodes, she was talking about how the consultations to see a doctor are essentially the same as most people's deductible.
You know, most people have $40, $60 deductibles.
They go to the doctor, they still got to pay $60 to see a doctor, right?
Even, you know, whatever. The doctor visit costs $120.
Insurance handles half of it.
You still got to pay your deductible, right?
But what you guys are doing at the wellness company, it sounds like the price of a visit is the deductible.
So there's really no financial loss there.
And it sounds like the price of things going forward is moderate enough for it to be less expensive than the pharmaceutical option.
Is that accurate?
That's absolutely accurate.
Yes. Our goal is to, obviously you got to pay the doctors for their time, you know, for their expertise.
So yes, you can't give things away for free, but we try to keep it so reasonable that it is affordable for everybody.
And it's not just one type of people can come in and have this exclusivity to the wellness company.
We want it for all people.
And it's true. The appointment without being a member is $75.
I mean, without being a member to see a provider is $75.
If you are a member, that brings the price down to $60.
And if you're part of One Wellness, it's free because your One Wellness is a $200 a month uh fee for the membership in that membership you get all your unlimited virtual care visits with your provider so if you need to see a provider three times that month free two hundred dollars you get 10 uh supplements in that bundle for the month again under one wellness those 10 supplements are free you also have free consults with a wellness pharmacist like myself if you
want to ask for help in building your bundle what do i take i don't know it's overwhelming The pharmacist is there and it's free under One Wellness.
So it's an amazing, amazing program.
A lot of people are signing up because a lot of people are choosing not to buy insurance anymore because they're getting scammed.
They're realizing that they can only get what the insurance company says.
They're paying the money, but the insurance company is dictating their care.
People want to own their own health and make their own choices.
And so they're coming to us at the Wellness Company and being a part of One Wellness so they can make those choices.
I mean, we talk about socialized medicine.
We're very critical of socialized medicine in other countries.
But how is that not socialized medicine via insurance companies?
It sounds like pretty much just like in countries where they have socialized medicine, where it's the government controlling.
Really, the medical community.
It sounds like this is just another way of having socialized medicine, but there's a capitalistic, you know, kind of thing going on there.
But nonetheless, they're forcing you into positions that doesn't necessarily feel like you have the freedom to do what you want with your health.
Hence, it feels like socialized medicine.
Yeah. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
That's really what insurance is.
Insurance is just an overreaching arm, big pharma, big government.
Their hands are in each other's pockets.
They're all wheeling and dealing on the side.
They're not bringing forth, like you say, capitalism is again, giving people options and choices.
If someone's going to pay For something, you don't change it.
You don't rewrite it to fit your pocketbook.
You really have to help people, and that's not what's happening.
That's not what's happening with the insurance company.
We are, in the United States, under socialized medicine.
It's just, again, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
They won't say it, but it's exactly what they're doing.
Exactly, exactly. Now, Canada, you were talking about.
You're saying that the wellness company started in Canada.
Is that true? That's true.
We started there on Mother's Day.
We officially launched and we are going to be launching more to come in July with Canada.
So I'm very excited.
We're going to be offering similar consults with a wellness coach.
I mean, Canada, I did not realize this until I started talking with the doctors there, how difficult they're making it for providers to be providers and not even just to give advice.
They're like, you're giving medical care.
And giving advice. I mean, I'm blown away at how strict Canada is.
I did not think. And again, socialized medicine, now they're coming down to the doctor level and telling these doctors, you can't say that.
What? What do you mean?
Patient and provider, you know, privacy and privilege is completely gone.
And so, you know, what we're trying to do is help bring back true healthcare in Canada.
Yeah, we're talking with Dr.
Chris Shoemaker, and I believe Dr.
William Makis, I think was his name, or Makis?
Makis, yeah. Makis, yeah.
And I mean, it sounds like, you know, that little tyrant Trudeau up there, I mean, he's really making these doctors' lives hell.
I mean, they were both talking about how their lives have been shattered because they decided to stick with the truth.
Their medical license is threatened.
You know, really driven to the point where they're destitute, hoping that, you know, GoFundMe or Give, Send, Go, I should say, not GoFundMe.
People donate to their Give, Send, Go.
And I mean, it's really, really bad what's going on there.
That's why I was wondering, you know, setting this up in Canada, it just seems like, you know, kind of a center point of all the tyranny with what's going on, especially with their prime minister.
Yeah, definitely. And you know this, being Americans, we want to help all the other countries the right way, not the big government way.
We really want to bring something to Canada, to our Canadian friends, and say, we can give you the same options as we have here in the U.S. It's going to take time.
It's not going to be a quick, easy thing.
Thankfully, in the U.S., we could offer that.
There's going to be a little harder, but you know what?
We don't give up. We don't surrender.
We're going to keep fighting and pushing back so that we can have this available for all people across the world.
What does the future hold for yourself, for the wellness company?
I mean, could you tell us what the next 12 to 24 months looks like?
Lots of things are coming.
We have amazing new programs coming with the Wellness Company, looking to launch elsewhere, which is coming.
I don't know dates, but I know things are coming.
We have a Spike Kids product that should be coming in the next month and a half or so, which will be really good to help the children, because a lot of people forget about the children.
They're being targeted very, very, very bad right now.
We saw it with the schools, with masking, and now they push the shots on them, and some parents didn't know.
So we want to make sure we have protection for the kids.
We are about family value and family structure.
One thing that I brought up and a lot of my colleagues have brought up, we want to leave choices to the parents.
You know, we're not, the government's always telling you we have, these are our kids.
And it's like, no, they're your kids.
And we want you to make the choices that's best for them.
So we want to make sure that parents have the control over their families that's been kind of stripped from them through the education system and the government system.
There's a lot that's going to be coming, so I know we're not stopping, we're not pulling back, we're moving forward.
We just had a spike symposium last weekend in Dallas with the Canadian doctors, with the U.S. doctors, and it was phenomenal getting together, sharing our stories, and meeting everybody in person.
And those videos will be coming out, and they'll be very educational and informative for the public.
Wow, wow. So I'm curious, Dr.
Chen, is there, in terms of, you know, we always hear like, oh, they're going to do another pandemic.
You know, they're going to try to really, you know, send out something really big out there that's not going to be this, you know, kind of like a tougher version of the cold that COVID seems to have been, right?
Are you, with the wellness company, preparing for the possibility of such a thing?
Yes, definitely.
We were on it before we even launched last year and Monkeypox was like this big talk and we were having all these meetings, you know, late nights talking about what can we do?
Should we launch sooner? There's going to be a need for us to help people.
So we are always talking about what could come, what do we have available, and we do think ahead and try to beat them at their game.
So we try to be able to have things available if needed, which again, we will have stuff coming down probably in the next month or so, to just again, things to prepare people that they can do on their own, own their own health, and know that if anything were to happen, they have everything right there on hand if they need it.
Wow, wow. So, Dr.
Jen, do you think in terms of what's coming down the pipeline in the near future, do you think that there's going to be a great awakening in terms of really what the government, the medical industrial complex has done to the people, hence, you know, a sea change that is desperately needed?
Yeah. Well, I am an optimist.
So yes, I'm going to say yes.
I really do believe so.
I don't believe that we've all been awakened to just watch things crumble.
I believe we've been awakened and called to be a part of this movement for a reason.
And I believe that I would never have thought I would be in this position.
I never considered myself a brave, courageous warrior, but I just do what's right.
And I think that those people, like myself, are stepping up in whatever capacity, in whatever field they're in, is starting to happen.
Things are shifting. Things are moving.
And as we continue to do what we're doing, putting shows out, Telling the truth, I believe we're going to reach more people and they'll have that moment, the aha, where they'll research something and the pieces of the puzzle will come together and they'll say, you know what?
This is the truth and I've got to walk in it now.
Wow, wow. Now, in terms of one of the questions we get asked a lot is women are really worried about the damage this has done to their reproductive health, right?
And, you know, we've been literally, I'd say dozens of emails have come to us, you know, people watching episodes like this, all of a sudden having the enlightening moment, realizing that they want to have kids and They might not be able to have kids and worse than that might actually have to deal with a lot of health repercussions.
On the topic of reproduction, is there really a method whereby a person that is now in serious risk of spontaneous abortions or miscarriage can actually treat themselves, have healthy kids, have healthy kids with their DNA not all messed up?
Is there hope for them?
Yeah, I'm one that walks with hope, so I'm going to say yes.
I mean, I will encourage women watching this to utilize the spike support.
Whether you've taken the injection or not, you want to clear those out of your body because it's going to cause damage, and we don't want that damage.
And I recommend it for men as well.
So if your spouse, he needs to take that spike support as well.
And I recommend couples Use it for a few months before trying to conceive to kind of help their bodies get back in balance.
And not just the spike support, it's taking back your health, getting outdoors, not choosing the right foods to eat, exercising, and doesn't mean vigorous, just moving, walking, not sedentary for so long.
Get your body in good health using the prenatal things that you need to do to prepare your body for conception.
And give your body time to kind of work through that.
I will say, when we have the spike kids, then they can utilize the spike kids when they're pregnant and when they're nursing, so they can still keep their body clear.
The wellness company is aware Of the reproductive health issues that are happening.
I mean, it's a depopulation agenda, clearly, because it's targeting the men and the women highly in their reproductive organs.
And so it's really important for people to just remain healthy, keep your body clean of as much toxins as you possibly can.
And if you did take this injection, you know, use the spike support.
The Wellness Company is working on a formula right now.
It's not complete yet, but it's a natural hormone balancing formula, one for men and for women.
Now, men are a little easier.
The women, we've got to work things through, but this will be for women of all ages.
If someone is, you know, going through menopause, and I'm sure you've heard this, and all of a sudden started having a cycle again, being encountering the spike shedding, you know, these natural ingredients will help the body kind of balance and regulate.
And that I do recommend, too, once it's available for women trying to conceive to help balance their body.
Now, in terms of somebody that's had these injections, we've heard that it changed your DNA. We've actually interviewed individuals like Todd Counder, an attorney, who's saying that there's actually a legal precedent where whoever's gotten the injection is longer a homo sapien.
They're called something else. I don't remember the exact name that they use.
But, you know, there's actually a change in what a human being is.
Now, if somebody like this has a kid, are we looking at a child that is now, their DNA is different than what a homo sapien is?
Or is there ways to return it back to normality of what that would have been minus the COVID mRNA vaccine?
Yeah, I can't speak to that.
I don't know. But, you know, we're going to have to just be vigilant and pay attention and just really answer questions as people come to us.
When they come to us, we can help work through them.
I don't know if there's a test to see if their DNA has been altered.
Maybe, maybe not. I don't know.
But if that is available, people probably want to check and make sure.
I mean, I'm concerned even with the shedding.
You know, the shedding is just as scary to me as the injection.
You know, I mean, really, it's a whole new world we're living in.
In this post-COVID world, we need to be vigilant and be safe and take the necessary precautions to keep ourselves healthy.
Wow, very cool. In terms of the wellness company, it sounds like you guys have a lot of frontline doctors working with you.
It sounds like pretty much the wellness company has picked and chosen doctors that really stood up against these tyrannical mandates, told the truth.
Could you tell us a little bit about the structure of the company, the credibility behind it, the individuals that you guys have chosen in order to represent the wellness company?
Yeah, it is exactly as you said.
I mean, we are a team who saw things early on, stood up.
Our providers that actually are not of the faces you see, but those that are in the background that do write prescriptions for ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, were the ones that wrote those prescriptions during the height of COVID. These are, I mean, we have a great team of frontline doctors in the background and those of us in the forefront.
And we all gather once a week to do grand rounds, educational sessions so that we can all be up because on top of all the latest things, because everything we're being taught through our continuing education credits is all false.
So we have to find a new way to get truthful information so that we can be the best we can in our practice.
But the chief medical team at the Wellness Company is amazing.
I mean, being with them together in Dallas for the Psych Symposium was just amazing.
The energy was amazing. Sharing stories.
You could tell we all are encouraged by each other.
Everybody has a story to say of watching one of us out there and being encouraged to stand up and fight because of what the other one had done.
Just an amazing team.
And I mean, I'll just go through the names, you know, Dr.
Peter McCullough, Dr.
Harvey Reisch, Dr.
Richard Amerling, Dr. Heather Gessling, myself, and Dr.
Robert Seek. I mean, just an amazing, amazing team.
And I couldn't be prouder to stand beside them.
We know all those doctors and we work really closely with Dr.
Seek, who's one of the premier people in Nevada that's actually been producing products through his compounding pharmacy.
What advice would you have for people that are Trying to navigate this new world, not sure what is true, not sure what is false, and really concerned about what's happening.
What do you tell them as far as navigating all this craziness, this misinformation, these government agendas, these medical industrial complex agendas?
Yeah, well, the first thing is people need to take back ownership and not just health sovereignty, sovereignty in general.
We've been so willing to give it up to so-called experts, and those experts have been misleading and misguiding us for a very long time.
I don't want someone to take anything I say and say, well, she said it, so she's right.
Please do your own research.
And sometimes doing your own research is tough because things are being scrubbed and removed.
But if you dig long enough, you can find, and I really encourage people to do that, to go research.
And again, we've lost touch with how truth resonates within us.
We've lost the awareness of how we can sense things That's kind of been shut down through the years of the programming, through the education system, and then the colleges, and then the workforce that we're in.
I believe we've just kind of lost touch.
And as people research, as they start to look into things, they're going to sense something and they're going to know, oh my gosh, that is true.
Why?
You just know it.
Why do you know it?
Because you feel it.
You sense it.
And again, it is a spiritual component to it.
It is being connected to a creator source, God, and knowing that he's not going to mislead you.
He's going to show you the way.
And we have to just tune back into that.
And it doesn't take a lot, but I think people can do it.
We have the ability, the power of God within us to find our way back to that.
This way, we won't get misled again because these sinister people will rise up again.
And we have to be able to outwit and outsmart them at their own game.
Yeah, yeah, most definitely.
In terms of some of these different products, I mean, we talked on our Medicine Cabinet show about spike support, about the immune booster that you offer at the Wellness Company.
Some of the other things that we've heard about, I'd love to pass these by you and just get your responses on them.
So there's a doctor by the name of Dr.
Joe Nuzma who recommends C60 Complete and chlorine dioxide.
As a way to detox the body.
Have you heard about that sort of approach?
Yes. I actually have chlorine dioxide, but I've never used it.
So when I heard about it, I was quite impressed.
And I just knew that when something good shows up, it might not be around.
So I ordered it, but I've personally never tried it.
I do know people who have been trying it and some even give it to their pets.
So it actually oxygenates the blood.
It keeps your body oxygenated.
And there's probably a whole bunch of other amazing benefits with it too.
But yeah, I have some.
Never used it. Haven't researched it enough to truly understand it.
I just knew I wanted to have it on hand in case I needed it.
I just wanted it. It's like one of those things when everything was being told, you're not going to get N-acetylcysteine.
You're not going to get vitamin D. I went on and ordered a whole kit of things myself just to have them on hand.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, they do try to remove all this stuff.
In fact, the chlorine dioxide, I did end up trying that protocol.
And the chlorine dioxide that I've been using is actually for water purification.
You can't even buy the really high-quality stuff for humans because the FDA tries to say that it's really bad for you, even though there are studies that show the exact opposite.
I've seen some of the studies where, in fact, it kills the HIV virus.
You know, it reduces cancers.
I mean, you can't say this stuff as a medical professional because they'll kick down your door and stuff.
But, you know, the studies are out there.
The studies are out there. It's just been, you know, concealed from the public just because, you know, they seem like they don't want you to have the good stuff.
They don't want you to have the good stuff that helps.
They want you to just kind of like give you the stuff that prolongs whatever issue that you have.
It prolongs the issue and causes another so that you have to take another.
Yeah, they don't want anything beneficial for sure.
But yeah, I mean, I definitely have to do more research on chlorine dioxide.
It definitely piqued my interest when I heard about it way back when.
Obviously, I bought some, but it's cool that you're doing the protocol.
And yes, it is what people use hiking.
They have tablets they stick in their bottles of water bottles to clean the water before they drink it if they're Outdoor hiking on the Appalachian Trail for days and days, and they need water, so they do bring those tablets so they can drink from the streams.
Totally, totally. Dr.
Jin, is there anything that we didn't talk about in this episode that's important to discuss?
Well, I just want to end with the fact that I call myself the people's pharmacist.
And I'll tell you why.
Because I answer to the people and not to big pharma.
I truly want to make sure people, you know, have options, that they have an outlet, they know there's a group of us who really care.
We've walked away from everything we had, you know, everything we've worked hard to build, because we care about the future of humanity.
We want to see people thrive.
I want to see people successful.
And success is not measured in Dollars, it's measured in health and happiness and feeling good.
And so I'm just happy to be part of a team that feels the same way I do.
And our number one goal is to just bring that out.
And hopefully, you know, people check us out at the Wellness Company and decide to be a part of our ecosystem.
We're happy to have you.
This is one last question.
This is not so much of a medical question.
This is more of like the world going forward, right?
Based upon what you know about what's happening in the world currently, what is your advice to people in terms of how to structure their lives going forward?
And what I mean by that is some of the things we've heard is, you know, grow your own fruits and vegetables because they're going to try to poison that.
Have a source of, you know, quality meats that aren't, you know, injected with the mRNA vaccine.
Really taking measures in order to stop the constant poisoning of us, right?
In order to maintain good health.
In a holistic level, in a lifestyle level, what is your advice to the folks out there?
Yes. If you can, you should.
Really, that's what I say.
But not everybody can.
Not everybody is able to...
I have chickens.
My husband's out here building a greenhouse right now.
So we have the ways of living that way.
We can't have cattle. I've asked him to have our own cows so we can have our own beef, but we don't have the room for that.
But again, so if you do not...
Find your local source.
So if you live somewhere, I highly recommend farmers markets.
Talk to your farmers.
Talk to those who are at these farmers markets and ask them questions.
You'll find a good source.
A lot of the people at these farmers markets, at least by me, they don't use any injection on their beef.
They do all grass fed.
Same with their chickens and their pigs.
I like bacon, so I want to make sure I get my bacon sourced well.
And if you can't grow a garden on your own, again, the farmers markets are going to have your fruits and vegetables.
And it may be seasonal.
You know, if you want something off season, you might not be able to get it, but you're going to have a good source and you're going to know, and you're not going to question.
And then my other, my last point is, if that doesn't work for you either, Bless your food.
Clearly in scripture, the poison will not touch you.
Bless your food.
Pray over your food, pray over your water, that whatever is there does not harm you and have faith and trust that you are being watched over and protected.
You know, one thing that you brought up, it just actually brought up another thing.
I know I was like last question, but there is a trust that we had in each other, right?
And I know about this trust because, you know, family, like they used to call these old wives tales and like traditional medicine, right?
Something would happen. I'd sprain my arm.
My grandma would show up.
Literally grew up in a village in Syria, didn't even have more than a sixth grade education, but somehow she'd cook up something in the kitchen.
In this case, whenever I had a sprain, she would put together some dough with a bunch of yeast in there, wrap it around where the sprain was at, and this would be more effective in getting rid of the sprain, Versus anything I would get over the counter or via prescription.
And I saw that happen over and over again.
Different ailments, right?
Some kind of concoction with ginger and pickles and I don't know, something that, you know, they've had in the recipe books for like 2000 years, all of a sudden would help that ailment.
Doesn't cost much money, is part of tradition, right?
The trust that we had in each other, but that trust seems to have been replaced by, oh, let's listen to big pharma folks as opposed to family and tradition, right?
And then you could argue that the breakdown of the family structure probably has something to do with that, why this information isn't passed along.
I mean, what do you say about that topic?
The trust we have in each other as individuals using tradition and using tradition first, the tried and true, versus going to some stranger, trusting them that they're going to give you a pill that's going to somehow help you.
Yeah, I think it goes back to the radio and then to the television.
I really believe we've been seeing the propaganda for so long and it's altered that trust for us.
So no longer are we viewing grandma's old way of doing things as legit because we've been misguided and misled through the propaganda.
But you're absolutely right. We have to get back to that.
I didn't realize, so I started doing things on my own.
Picking dandelions. I pick dandelions.
I eat the greens.
I make dandelion root coffee.
And then in sharing that information with an aunt, she says to me, oh, great grandma used to do that.
I'm like, wait, what? I had no idea.
So there are things that are still there within us.
We just have to awaken it.
And there is a trust within your community.
You have to build it back up.
That's what trust is. Realizing and taking those steps.
You know, the first time I bought the ivermectin horse paste, I let it sit there for a long time.
I let it sit there for a long time.
I was like, I don't know.
This is so weird. Do I do this?
I don't know. Because it was so outside of what I was known to do as a pharmacist.
And then once I did it, it was like, oh, oh, I'm okay.
You know, and I think we have to take those steps.
I'm not telling people to do anything crazy, but just again, in those simple little things, you know, small steps to build that trust up, find people in your community that are like-minded, you know, build a network.
We have local meetings, you know, every once in a while, we all get together and we know how we can help each other.
Who has what? You know, my husband does saw milling.
He has lumber. You know, someone else has, they raise rabbits, so they have meat if ever anything were to happen.
You know, we have chickens, we have eggs.
You know, just knowing what you have that you can share and barter with those in case of a time of need.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's at a point now where they start talking about the eggs.
I was like, all right, I'm going to start eating.
Like, I used to eat, like, two eggs a day.
I'll go to four now. You know what I mean?
It's at a point where it's like they tell me something, and I play the game of opposites like a child, you know, because you can't trust them.
You can't trust them. And that's exactly right.
When you hear mainstream telling you one thing, no doing the opposite, you're going to be just fine.
Yep, yep, exactly. In terms of, you know, sorry, one more question.
That's okay. In terms of just this rural existence, it sounds like you've kind of subscribed more to like not, you know, living in the city, having your own farm, having your own land, and having that be part of your lifestyle.
Is that correct? Yeah, that's for me.
It may not be for others. I know some people just love city life.
And again, that's why if that's where you are at, if that's where you want to be, then you're going to have to make those connections, build your own community.
It can be done. I'm not saying it can't be.
It can be. It might be a little harder because you don't have The rural community that's growing different foods and raising different animals, but you're going to have those farmers markets.
People are going to come down to your town, and they're going to set up on the weekends or whenever they do that, and you can walk through and gather what you need.
So I personally am not a city girl.
I was actually born downstate New York, but thankful my parents moved us upstate, so I'm not in concrete.
I'm in green. Right.
Right. Very healthy. You know, growing your own food.
What we've done at our offices at America Happens is we've actually gotten these systems.
One is called Rise Gardens.
One is called just Garden with a Y-N as opposed to an E-N, right?
And we started growing our own vegetables in our office.
And with those two systems, we haven't had vegetables essentially for Feed four people, and it's such a significant difference.
You have a little bit of parsley from the system, and there's a noticeable difference when you have parsley grown correctly versus with a lot of chemicals.
You can literally AV this stuff with what you get at the supermarket versus what you grow at home.
And like I said, there's a noticeable difference as far as the quality of taste and nutritional value.
So I encourage people to do that sort of thing.
The other thing I wanted to mention is we have a vaccine injury store on AmericaHappens.com, which is the network that airs blood money.
And within this store, we have spike support.
We have the immune system.
Booster from the Wellness Company.
We also have some other products like the Dr.
Joe Nuzma protocol with the chlorine dioxide and the C60 Complete.
So I encourage the viewers to go and check out some of this information.
And we actually did a great episode with Dr.
Jen talking about the spike support and some of the other solutions to getting rid of some of these harmful toxins that have introduced the body due to this COVID vaccine.
So really recommend the viewer to check that out.
Dr. Jen, was there anything else that you wanted to mention?
Websites? Anything else before we wrap it up?
No, I think that's it.
You can find all my socials going to the website, twc.health.
And I hope that everybody enjoys the information we shared and, you know, takes back their health.
That's awesome. Dr. Jen, thank you so much for the hard work that you're doing.
Thank you for being on the right side of history.
Thank you for being part of this new movement to really fix this medical industrial complex that has caused so much harm.
And thank you for the viewers out there for checking out this episode of Blood Money.
Thank you for joining us and I will see you on the next episode of Blood Money.
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