Oct. 1, 2023 - Blood Money
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| So, let's get started. Let's go. | |
| So, | |
| How are you doing, sir? I'm fine as frog hair, as we say here in Johnson County, Texas. | |
| I don't know what you guys say out in Vegas, but that's what we say here. | |
| Fine as frog hair. I love it. | |
| Thanks, man. Troy, I mean, you've been doing some amazing stuff. | |
| You know, let's just dive right into it. | |
| Let's go. Before the call, you know, we seek out individuals that are in the freedom movement, that are going against the grain, that are going against these agendas, all these horrible agendas to, you know, sexualize our children, take away our freedom. | |
| You know, have our borders open, all this nonsense that's going on. | |
| And you, you know, based upon your own motivation, have been doing a lot of amazing things. | |
| So let's just dive right into it. | |
| Tell us all about who Troy Brewer is. | |
| Thank you, Vin. Gosh, you know, I would say, first and foremost, I'm just a guy that has a yes in my heart to see people set free. | |
| And I am motivated by Jesus. | |
| I am a Jesus-loving dude. | |
| I am not a very religious guy, but I love Jesus. | |
| And so I get along very well with a lot of diverse groups because I believe that I have a calling in my life to a lot of Just really to the whole spectrum as far as bringing freedom, redemption, and the goodness of God is what I call. | |
| And so years and years ago, my wife and I started a food bank like 34 years ago. | |
| And then from there, from the food bank, we started doing a work on both sides of the border here in Texas. | |
| And we started going into trash dumps in Mexico and then into Central America. | |
| And that's when the first time I began to realize that the whole problem was sexual trafficking and children being sold as slaves because I kept being offered kids to buy. | |
| What year was this? | |
| This is in the already 90s. | |
| Wow, wow. So like this has been, I mean, we're finding out about this now, but this has been going on for like three, four decades, you're saying? | |
| Oh, brother, man. | |
| Yes, sir. It sure has. | |
| And it's certainly escalated. | |
| It is certainly escalated. | |
| But yeah, the first time that I was offered two little girls to buy, I was on the other side of the border and I was a young man and I was in a trash dump. | |
| And this sweet looking lady brought me these two kids. | |
| And I mean, they were just little sticks of things. | |
| They were extremely skinny. | |
| And I was looking at them and she said, hey, do you want to buy these children? | |
| And the translator told me what she was saying and she told me, she said, you can make a movie. | |
| And when I understood what she was saying, obviously I was horrified. | |
| But I pulled out my wallet right then and said, yeah, how much? | |
| Let's go. And literally made a financial transaction for those children and then took her to an orphanage that we was actually taking all of the food to. | |
| Took those two little girls and got to have the conversation. | |
| I'm sorry? That first time was 60 bucks a piece. | |
| Geez. Wow. | |
| It was $60 a piece. | |
| I mean, they wouldn't care if I murdered them. | |
| They didn't care. And those little girls have grown up. | |
| And I knew those little girls all through their childhood, all the way into the time that they got married. | |
| There was one of them went to college. | |
| And they're doing very well now. | |
| They're actually in their late 20s now. | |
| Good for you, sir. Good for you. | |
| Yeah, thank you. So yeah, so since that time, we've rescued over 10,000 kids out of sexual trafficking, and we rescue about 3,000 kids a year, and we've worked in 56 nations, and we just set the whole world on fire, man. We went after it. Wow, wow. | |
| I mean, your motivation was discovering what was happening in the 90s that really turned on the switch for you? | |
| Yeah, you know, man, the thing that turned the switch on for me was actually seeing it and knowing how real this was and knowing that it's actual slaves. | |
| I mean, real slavery. | |
| Vim, one of the things that people say is how appalled they are that slavery happened in America 200 years ago. | |
| Well, slavery's going on right now. | |
| You know, put up or shut up is what I say. | |
| Don't brag about it 200 years ago if you're not willing to help a slave today. | |
| And much more... | |
| Isn't it much worse? | |
| I've heard that it's actually much worse than it was 200-300 years ago. | |
| There's a lot more of a child sexualization element. | |
| There's statistics out there that explain how this is worse than it's ever been, pretty much. | |
| Well, no, there's no doubt about it. | |
| The statistics say that there are more slaves in slavery right now than have ever existed in the history of humanity. | |
| That's how big it is. | |
| Wow. Of any race, of both genders, of any age, and you can find them anywhere, and they are easy to find, they are easy to get, and the whole thing is fueled by pornography. | |
| And we can talk about that here in a little bit, but I'll just tell you right now, it's... | |
| It's a mess and slavery is real. | |
| We've had every experience that you could imagine when it comes to, there's really, there's actually only two things that you can do. | |
| You can either snatch a child, snatch them and move them, or you can actually buy them and you can set them free. | |
| And so we do both of those things in various ways. | |
| Wow, wow, wow. So tell us a little bit more about some of the work that you've been up to over there. | |
| I know you guys do a lot of comprehensive, you know, attempts at not only stopping child sexualization, but human trafficking, giving, you know, books and items to people, helping them out on a charity basis. | |
| Tell us the whole 360 is what you guys got going on. | |
| Well, we also, whenever we go into a community and we start to rescue kids there, we build homes for those kids, which means we have to build schools for those kids. | |
| And then, of course, we have to dig water wells. | |
| We have to build farms. | |
| We have to do all those things. | |
| So it becomes entire... | |
| Villages, and it's really hard to describe, but a place that was just desolate and hopeless, and they were downtrodden, and everybody in the world stole their kids from them to come into that place, and then to come back several years later. | |
| And there are schools, and there's a church, or several different churches, water wells, the whole nine yards. | |
| And so, from the womb to the tomb, you have to take care of them. | |
| And you have to make sure that there's actually, it actually has its own ecosystem, that it has its own structures, and you have to set those things up according to every culture that you're involved in throughout the world. | |
| And so, yeah, so we do all those things. | |
| What is it that, I mean, in the last 30 years, it seems like you've had a crash course in all the evils in the world. | |
| What is your point of view about our country, United States of America? | |
| Brother, my point of view of the United States of America is that America was founded on a covenant with God. | |
| And how it's being ran today and what's happening today is everything that you see that looks like it's right is nothing but nefarious theater. | |
| It is a lie. Everything, the reality of what is happening is so corrupt and so foul and so sinister that it chews people up and spits people out while telling you that they're the good guys. | |
| Those of us that are on the ground, that are the boots on the ground, that are involved in the border situation, involved in things all over the world, we know what's real because we know the truth and we're lovers of truth. | |
| If you're a lover of freedom, it's because you're a lover of truth. | |
| If you don't love the truth, you will not love freedom. | |
| Truth and freedom go hand in hand. | |
| And it takes brave people to fight for those things and to point those things out, as you are very well doing, Vin. | |
| And I'm so grateful for you, man. | |
| Thank you. Thank you. I mean, we're grateful to you. | |
| I mean, you know, all we're doing is we're publicizing this stuff, man. | |
| You're actually physically saving lives. | |
| Those two girls whose lives you saved, that could have been literally raped, chopped up, thrown into a dumpster. | |
| You saved their lives. I mean, that's two people. | |
| And I read your bio here, and you're talking about 3,000 children that you saved. | |
| I mean, you know, you're like a Schindler. | |
| What else could I say? I know. | |
| Listen, I get a lot of credit. | |
| I get a lot of credit that I don't deserve. | |
| But I tell everybody, I get a lot of blame I don't deserve, too. | |
| So it's okay. I have great teams, incredible teams, doing amazing things. | |
| And yeah, man, we're saving about 3,000 kids a year. | |
| And what we're saving them from is... | |
| It is so horrific. | |
| Literal sexual ritualization is a huge thing to traumatize children and to truly horrify them and traumatize them and then pay money to molest those children within that state of hysteria is something that people are paying big money for now. | |
| And I don't want to go off into too big of details on that, but another thing too that we have is we are rescuing, and this is all over the border, we will rescue an eight-year-old, a nine-year-old that has had breast augmentation surgery, and she's a double D, and she's an eight-year-old child, and that is being prostituted. | |
| And so all of our kids all over the world, whenever we rescue them, they always require medical attention. | |
| They don't always require multiple surgeries, but it's very common for them to require multiple surgeries and those kinds of things. | |
| The kind of trauma that they endure is really tough because everything is at a heightened level now and it's getting worse by the day. | |
| Yeah, yeah, it's insane. | |
| I mean, you know, the crazy thing is, you know, there's kind of a personal little tidbit here, but because of the stuff that we expose, we're constantly, there's a lot of threats happening. | |
| People don't like that we're exposing the things that we're exposing, you know? | |
| And it's very interesting because we hear all these stories about child pornography on the border, children being sold, and really nothing being done about it, you know? | |
| And then we get these odd threats that, hey, if you keep doing what you're doing, you might end up with child pornography in your computer and falsely arrested. | |
| Stupid things like that. | |
| Nefarious things like that. | |
| Because we're reporting this stuff. | |
| While the people that are really doing it, what's happening to them? | |
| What's happening to them? | |
| They're making tons of money. | |
| They're making tons of money? | |
| They're making tons of money. | |
| And you know, I want to just tell you that... | |
| But... | |
| We have worked closely throughout the years. | |
| We've had different teams of people that have worked with the FBI. We've had different teams of people that have worked with different intelligence agencies throughout the world. | |
| About two and a half years ago, that ended over. | |
| They stopped criminally prosecuting people that were essentially selling children. | |
| Yes, absolutely. | |
| Right when the Trump administration was out, basically. | |
| As soon as it left, it was over. | |
| All cooperation was done. | |
| Every contact that we had no longer answers the phone, no more working with anybody. | |
| And I'm not saying that there's not really good guys in the FBI that are working that, because there certainly are, and I've known a bunch of them through the years, and they're fine people. | |
| But the intentional cooperation Between the United States government and what is happening with the buying and selling of children and those people who are fighting that battle, that cooperation, it's not existent. | |
| If it is existent, I don't know about it anywhere. | |
| So what I tell everybody is this, and I hope that your viewers will just put up with me being a Jesus freak. | |
| If the body of Jesus doesn't stand up, if Christians do not stand up and do something about this, there's nobody else coming. | |
| Who's going to show up? Is Hollywood going to show up? | |
| I don't think so. | |
| Who is going to show up and defend these kids if we, as grown men and women who say that we love the Lord, if we're not going to do it, who else is going to do it? | |
| So we have to. Let me throw this out at you because one of the things I've noticed recently is that the Muslim men are standing up. | |
| They're certainly standing up. | |
| The Muslim women are standing up. | |
| I was actually kind of delighted hearing about these school board meetings in Michigan where You know, they're not taking this nonsense, right? | |
| And then in LA, there was an incident with a bunch of Armenian men having an altercation with Antifa. | |
| You know, they've had it, right? | |
| The reason I mentioned, you know, Armenian men, the reason I mentioned Muslim men, also Italian men, there's certain alpha males that are not putting up with this nonsense. | |
| There's certain alphas that are not putting up with it. | |
| The thing that I'm really disappointed about is what's happened to what we call white American men. | |
| There's this crisis of betaism or whatever. | |
| They're scared. They don't want to stand up. | |
| Whereas you notice some of these other races or religions that have been through more recent tyrannical behavior. | |
| I mean, that's why I mention Armenians because in recent history, Their civilization was pretty much destroyed, you know, and Muslim men, you know, standing up because, you know, I mean, they're not cool with the sexualization of children, you know? | |
| Why is it that you see these kind of sectors actually standing up, but then your, you know, your rank-and-file white American male just seems to be, I don't know, scared. | |
| Am I stereotyping? | |
| Or that just seems to be part of the problem in my eyes. | |
| But I don't know, what do you think? I think it's part of the socialization of men in this day and age that we've been neutered and we've been said that we have toxic masculinity if we stand up to anything and we've been taught to be submissive and a lot of people have gone along with it. | |
| Because everything within our society says, be submissive, be compliant, be compliant, or you're not a good citizen anymore. | |
| That is a part of the plan. | |
| That's a part of all of it. | |
| And a lot of people have drank that Kool-Aid and decided that the only way that they can get along in this society is to be a nice guy in every situation. | |
| Well, Ben, I want to tell you, man, I don't want to be a nice guy in every situation. | |
| If I see a child being brutalized or sexualized or being groomed, I'm not gonna be nice. | |
| And then I'm gonna be called the bad guy, but it's not my worst scenario to be called a bad name. | |
| I suffer a lot worse than just being called bad names. | |
| And so, you know, I don't have to carry my emotional support armadillo because somebody called me a bad name because I was rescuing a kid. | |
| I don't have to do that. | |
| I have this saying where it's like the time for politeness is over. | |
| Yeah. No, that's correct. | |
| You know, I actually preached a sermon on Sunday. | |
| I pastor a church here at Open Door. | |
| It's called Open Door Church in Burleson, Texas. | |
| I preached my message was called Way Past Nice. | |
| And it was about the difference between being nice and the difference of kindness. | |
| And kindness always produces action and kindness intervenes even when it's not being compliant within a situation. | |
| If you're being nice, you're always being compliant with the situation or the environment. | |
| I think it's baloney to say that we have to be nice in every situation. | |
| No, we don't. Would you, I mean, Jordan Peterson says that really the perfect male is a dangerous person. | |
| Would you agree? Absolutely. | |
| No, absolutely. | |
| Absolutely. You know, honestly, man, we, of course, have got death threats all over the world. | |
| As you can imagine, our teams have gone through Just hell in dealing with what they deal with. | |
| But I can tell you this, too. | |
| It brings me joy to think that we're throwing a dangerous wrench into the machine of how this mess works. | |
| It gives me great joy to go, no, man, I really hope that when I wake up in the morning that the devil says, oh, no, man, that brother's awake again. | |
| Man. Like, no, no. | |
| I want to be a bad motor scooter. | |
| I really do. I want to be somebody that makes a powerful impact. | |
| And men, you've got to be brave to do that. | |
| And you have to be skilled. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have to be committed. | |
| We need men like you, alpha males like you, encouraging other men to stand up. | |
| Take their rightful position as leaders, which is sorely lacking. | |
| We always ask, where are the men? | |
| Where are the men in these times? | |
| Yes. Oh, I'm so with you. | |
| Well, that's the first time I've been called an alpha male in a long time. | |
| You guys taking notes? | |
| Are y'all listening to this guy? | |
| Because this guy's right on. | |
| I got a whole team of people in here. | |
| Listen, Vin, you are in the will, brother. | |
| You are in the will. I'm just letting you know that. | |
| What do I get? What do I get? | |
| I'll leave you a guitar or two. | |
| How does that sound? That's awesome. | |
| You were saying earlier that you're not like, and I've heard this a few times, you're not necessarily religious, but you are a follower of Christ. | |
| Explain that, what that means to the viewer, please. | |
| Well, I'm very committed to Christ. | |
| I'm very, very, very committed. | |
| I'm a kingdom guy. | |
| And a lot of people don't understand that kind of language. | |
| And so I'm all about the kingdom, which means I don't care what denomination I work with. | |
| I don't care if you go to church on Saturdays or Sundays. | |
| I don't I don't care if you cut your hair or if you don't. | |
| I don't care if you got a tattoo or if you don't. | |
| I do not care. | |
| I am looking for Jesus to be able to get His will in His way. | |
| I don't feel like it's my job to fix anybody or my job to control anybody at all. | |
| And I tend to be very, very rejectful of those kinds of systems because I'm kind of a wild card. | |
| I know that you can't tell that. | |
| But with that said, I'm I'm very committed to anything, Jesus Christ. | |
| I'm very committed to anything that is pro-kingdom. | |
| And my heart is to see people of every kind, anything that you can imagine, be able to be reached for the Lord. | |
| So that's what I mean by that. | |
| I mean, you talk about, like, redeeming your timeline, healing past wounds through Christ. | |
| Explain to me, you know, there's a lot of trauma in our world, right? | |
| One of the things that occurs to me is that I actually feel as though, and this is just by observation, that most of our country is suffering some form of PTSD. Whether it's PTSD because of what they just did to us the last three years, whether it's PTSD because of the constant turbulence and what's happening in our country and the world, I believe there is just mass PTSD. I don't know if you agree about that statement. | |
| If you agree or disagree, tell us, what is the ways that you could use the healing nature of Christ and Christianity in order to heal yourself from those past wounds? | |
| You know, Vin, that's a great question. | |
| If I didn't believe what I'm about to say, I would have no hope for all these kids that we rescue. | |
| Because even though you bring them out of the prison, they would still forever be a prisoner. | |
| But I truly believe this, and I see it work. | |
| I see it every single day. | |
| I've seen it in 30 some odd years, that not only can Jesus Christ give you a new future, but He can even give you a different past. | |
| And like, how can He do that? | |
| Because when He shows up, He changes things. | |
| And it doesn't mean that we didn't go through what we went through. | |
| It just simply means that the shift in the lens and the priority has changed because now we realize that the Lord was with us and the Lord is with us. | |
| The presence of Jesus changes absolutely everything. | |
| The Bible says in the book of Galatians, you have to remember that Jesus Christ is resurrected from the dead. | |
| I go, boom! That's the game changer. | |
| I truly believe in transformation. | |
| I'm a hope fanatic. | |
| And so I don't mind going, I don't mind running into rushing, you know, hell with a water pistol because I really believe that a tsunami can follow me. | |
| And that comes from knowing the person of Jesus. | |
| And he's real. I promise you. | |
| Wow. So your books, you've written 11 books, and the titles are really fascinating. | |
| We just discussed one where the idea of healing, using Christianity to heal. | |
| Now, you have this other book called Numbers That Preach, Understanding God's Mathematical Lingo. | |
| Tell me about that a little bit. | |
| Well, I'm quite the Bible thumper, and I begin to notice when I first began to study back in the 80s that there was numerical patterns all the way through the Word of God. | |
| And I began to see, oh, obviously God is speaking through numbers. | |
| When he says that Jesus said, cast your net on the other side, and they pulled out a big net of fish, it specifically says 153. | |
| And I was like... Well, gee, I wonder what 153 means. | |
| So I begin to look all the way through the Bible and I begin to see that it means the same thing. | |
| And then I begin to look around me and I begin to see it also means the same thing around me. | |
| So I did a huge study for years and years and wrote a book on it and continue to write on it. | |
| I update it every now and then. | |
| And it is on the prophetic understanding of what God speaks through certain numbers, or in other words, how God uses certain numbers. | |
| And that's what that book is all about. | |
| And so it goes from one all the way through, and it just keeps on going into like, you know, double and triple digits. | |
| If you're somebody that's seeing two, two, two all the time, which I probably get more mail with that than I do for anything else. | |
| Yeah, you know, we have an anxiety epidemic in this country. | |
| Yes. | |
| Tell me the roots of what you think the roots of that are. | |
| Well, anxiety, I wanna tell you any place in my life that I am hopeless or I am full of fear and anxiety, I'm under the influence of a lie. | |
| Mm-hmm Okay? And so it comes from, okay, if this is how it's been, then it's how it's going to always be. | |
| No, it doesn't have to always be like that. | |
| Or the fact that this thing happened means your identity is that. | |
| No, it doesn't mean that. | |
| Someone has to, one of the things that happens that the current media does this all the time, and it's an old trick of the serpent, the devil, my friend, and it's this. | |
| He says, It says, okay, this is true and this happened, right? | |
| Okay, well then this is true and that happened, right? | |
| Okay, then this has to be true and then you say that's right. | |
| It's an old lawyer's, it's a lawyer's dodge is what it is, right? | |
| To bring you to a certain conclusion. | |
| So it's like, okay, well, if you were molested as a child, yes, okay, you participated in that sexual activity, yes, well then you must be a homosexual, no. | |
| No, that's not how that works, okay? | |
| Or, you know, you've always been poor, you didn't have opportunity, you're always going to be poor, so you're just going to be mad all the time. | |
| Those kinds of things had to be stopped, and it means that we're under the influence of a lie. | |
| And I think that there is very little emotional intelligence, much less biblical knowledge and wisdom of how to cope with our own selves. | |
| And I think that there's a tremendous need for men to know the Word of God, to know who they are in Christ, and also, too, to take on the responsibility of being a dude in this day and saying, I can't go on a 24-hour rant or I can't let this thing continue to progress. | |
| I've got to have enough emotional intelligence and self-awareness to be able to deal with myself. | |
| And that, I believe, comes from the power of the Holy Spirit. | |
| Wow. So, I mean, let me ask you this. | |
| We're talking about healing. We're talking about people with traumas. | |
| We're talking about, you know, Christ helping people, you know, deal with traumas. | |
| I mean, you described a horrible, disgusting, I guess, incident where you had an eight-year-old child with double-D breasts, obviously being used for sexual purposes. | |
| I mean, is there any hope for that kind of child? | |
| Have you ever seen somebody that's been through such sexual abuse and trauma at such a young age, That has actually been able to live a normal life through Christ after going through that boatload of trauma. | |
| Yeah, that's such a great question because what's real is I see it all the time and we're in our second generation now. | |
| And I want to, for everybody that's viewing, please, please hear me say this and don't hear what I'm not saying, okay? | |
| So I don't mean to diminish any of the trauma that anybody's been through or say that's no big deal. | |
| Oh, no, no, it's a big deal. | |
| And I am constantly floored and my heart is continually broken by what people go through. | |
| And I just... We're good to go. | |
| Man, I see kids bounce back. | |
| I see kids come from absolute devastation from nonverbal places where they're literally nonverbal because of their trauma to becoming Chatty Cathy. | |
| And I see it over and over and over again. | |
| It is a present reality in my life and in the lives of all those people that we minister to. | |
| Wow, wow. So what does a week look like for you, Troy? | |
| What is a normal week, Monday to Sunday, Sunday to Saturday, however you want to lay out the week, what does that look like to you? | |
| Man, your questions are crazy cool, man. | |
| Thank you. Way to go. | |
| You must have done this before. | |
| This is episode 111 or 110. | |
| Oh, wow. Yeah, man. | |
| Okay, well, so I'm typically gone about 10 days out of the month out of the nation. | |
| And so a lot of what I do is cram time for when I'm gone because that's a whole different world when I'm out of the country or if I'm on a mission. | |
| And then when I'm back here, my day is cram-packed With meetings from nine o'clock in the morning until six o'clock at night of solving problems and figuring out impossible things. | |
| I do a lot of television. | |
| We have a television broadcast that's on five different networks. | |
| We have a radio broadcast that's on 170 daily radio programs. | |
| I pastor a church. | |
| We have a food bank here. | |
| We have food banks all over the world, but our food bank here locally Feeds over 170,000 people a year. | |
| We are digging water wells. | |
| Our friends are calling us. | |
| I have a friend from Uganda that's sitting right here. | |
| As soon as I get done with you, he just came here from Uganda. | |
| He's the guy that rescues our kids in Uganda. | |
| He's literally sitting next to me right now. | |
| I spend time with these guys. | |
| I also have something that's called Redemption Ranch. | |
| And it's a place where we rescue our rescuers. | |
| And it's a hunting and fishing and dude ranch. | |
| It's just a place to be a dude. | |
| Come out and just be a dude. | |
| And it's 720 acres, and we have that, and we do big retreats for all of our rescuers. | |
| So it's a mixture. | |
| It's very busy. | |
| It's very proactive. | |
| It is a mixture of being a part of the hardest things in the world and also, too, seeing great things accomplished all at the same time. | |
| It's been like that for a very, very long time. | |
| Wow, wow. Have you ever been in fear for your life when you've been out there? | |
| Yes, I certainly have. | |
| There have been a couple of times I was absolutely certain that we were going to die. | |
| Yeah, it's true. | |
| And also, too, my teams have been in some situations. | |
| I'd like to say this. | |
| I have not personally rescued, personally gone into a brothel or gone into a ring or gone into a place. | |
| I've not personally rescued a child in about four years. | |
| Hmm. And I just got to where, number one, I'm getting old. | |
| I'm 57 and I'm getting old. | |
| And I have grandkids that are all these age. | |
| And I want to tell you, it's just a little bit too much. | |
| I started thinking murderous thoughts. | |
| And so, you know what I got with my teams? | |
| I was in Belize the last time I rescued a little girl, and a bunch of really bad things happened. | |
| And I was like, I'm gonna be the main support now for everybody that does rescue. | |
| And I'm there, and I'm there many times when they bring in the kids, but I'm not the guy anymore that actually goes in and actually does that. | |
| But to answer your question, Vin, yes sir, I have. | |
| I sure have. Had a lot of guns pulled on me. | |
| Had been involved in a lot of scary situations. | |
| I was in India one time. | |
| You want me to tell one of those stories? Oh, I'd love to hear it, yeah. | |
| So, I was in India one time, and I was preaching at a whole bunch of churches that day. | |
| And this man named Prakash was driving me. | |
| And as we're driving down the road, I just had a thought that I knew was a God thought. | |
| And I don't know how that works for everybody that's listening, you know, and watching. | |
| But for me, I just was like, oh man, that's the Lord that's telling me that. | |
| And it was like, thought, thought, thought. | |
| And it was this, there's a little girl that you're fixing to rescue. | |
| And I just thought that. | |
| And as soon as I thought that, Prakash said, Lord, this is a house of repute. | |
| And I'm like, what? He said it again. | |
| I said, I said, did you say this is a house of ill repute? | |
| And he said, yes. And I said, do you mean like a cat house? | |
| And he said, all of that are not having cats there. | |
| And I said, no, I've been growing up a long time. | |
| I know what's going on. Pull in there. | |
| So he pulls in there and he's disgusted. | |
| He argued with me for a long time. | |
| And then he's like, all right. And he pulls up there, puts it in part, just like, go. | |
| Like, yeah, the big-time American pastor. | |
| Here he comes. Now he wants to go in this place. | |
| And I did. I went in there. | |
| And to make a long story short, I went in there. | |
| I sat up there at the bar. | |
| I started talking to everybody within the place. | |
| I talked the biggest Texas accent, a lot worse than what I'm talking to you that I can muster up, and said, do you guys have any little girls? | |
| And they brought me out some teenage girls that definitely needed to be rescued. | |
| But I was thinking in my heart and within my spirit, no, do you have any little kids? | |
| And they said, well, we have three, and they're in school. | |
| Okay, school only goes to the seventh grade. | |
| So these are sixth graders or below. | |
| And they're like, yeah, if you can wait a few hours, they'll be home from school, and then you can prostitute them. | |
| And I'm like, so you don't have any here? | |
| And they said, well, we have one, and this one is new here, and she's just difficult, and she's not very healthy. | |
| And I said, oh, you got a mean one. | |
| I want to see this mean one. | |
| Let me see this mean girl you got. | |
| And they said, no. And we argued for a while and finally insisted. | |
| 30 minutes later, they come and get me, and this time when they came and got me, there was three guys, and they hadn't been there before. | |
| I'd seen one guy on the other side of the room, but these other two guys I hadn't seen. | |
| And they walked me down this dark hall, and I'm literally passing doors, Vin, that have padlocks on the outside. | |
| And I'd left this huge room that was all lit up and there was life in there and music. | |
| And I went down this dark hall and I thought, these guys are going to kill me down here. | |
| And I'm thinking, I can fight this guy. | |
| I can handle that guy. | |
| I got to run from that guy. | |
| And I'm thinking like this, you know? | |
| And we get down at the end of the hall. | |
| The door was actually already open. | |
| A tiny room, big enough for a bed about the size of this table. | |
| And there was a little girl that was sitting on the edge. | |
| They had put white makeup all over her to cover up her bruises. | |
| And it was way, I mean, it was like as white as my shirt. | |
| They just pounded white all over. | |
| She was wearing a white dress and she was sitting on the edge of the bed just like this. | |
| And she was a little girl. | |
| And I talked to them and I negotiated a price and said, I want to leave with her. | |
| And they let me leave with her and I took her out. | |
| And as we were walking out of that building, those guys were talking about if I should be able to leave with her or not. | |
| And they were arguing. | |
| And I don't think I have, that's one of the scaredest I think I've ever been. | |
| Just, I can't, I don't know why I was so scared on that, but I was like, do we have got to get to that door and we've got to get outside? | |
| And we did, and we got in the car and drove off, and I took her to a home where we have a lot of college girls that have cycled out of our children's homes, and they're actually in college now, and had those girls take care of her, and then we had a doctor come. | |
| And then I came back and saw her a few days later, and she hugged my neck, and she was already completely different, like five days later. | |
| She hugged my neck, and it was just beautiful. | |
| Wow. How much did it cost you to buy her? | |
| I think I bought her for $600. | |
| I know I said 60 on the last one, but it seems to me that it was exactly 10 times as much as the first time I bought kids. | |
| And I know those first two girls that we rescued was $60. | |
| It equaled out at American dollars to 500-something. | |
| The going rate to buy girls in India is typically $3,000. | |
| It's typically that. | |
| But this girl was sick and she was beat up and they were starving her and all this kind of stuff. | |
| And she was in bad shape. | |
| So they didn't charge me that much. | |
| You know what's insane is that, you know, I've done a lot of canvassing for political candidates and I literally remember multiple occasions having the door shut in my face by liberal women, typical liberal women, That tell me, and by the way, a lot of the time I'm canvassing with a first-generation immigrant from Mexico. | |
| A dude that lives by the border says all this kind of stuff's going on. | |
| There's rape trees, there's children being raped, there's children being molested, there's 60 different sources of sperm within an eight-year-old child that was found at the border. | |
| Insane stories like this. | |
| And you have local women here, liberal women, shutting the door at us, telling that we're liars, saying that we're white supremacists, when this guy's accent is very obvious that the dude moved here like this generation from Mexico. | |
| I mean, what do you do with people like that, that are just... | |
| Unwilling to admit the truth of what's going on and that are therefore, you know what they say, acquiescence is, you know, essentially complicity. | |
| So they're essentially acquiescing to the rape of children, the murder of children, the sexualization of children, while at the same time professing to be third-wave feminists. | |
| How does that work? You just got to plow right through them. | |
| Because I'm just telling you, there's no reasoning with them. | |
| There's no reasoning with them. | |
| And I want to tell you, they don't deserve your time of day. | |
| If they're actually a part of that system, and they are, whether they are a willing part. | |
| And by the way, I bet you they are. | |
| I would bet. If they're protecting the sexualization of children, I bet you they're protecting something. | |
| But even if they're not that, at the very least, they are a part of the problem. | |
| And you plow through it just like you do anything else. | |
| You say, okay, well, this is the right way I'm supposed to be able to go, but since that door is shut, I'm going to find a way to go and I've got to get this thing done. | |
| There has to be a true tenacity not to give these people the time of day. | |
| As far as, oh no, we need to hear their voice. | |
| No, we don't need to hear their voice. | |
| You need to hear the voice of that child who is being molested, who is being molested and raped 60 to 80 times a day, day after day after day after day that nobody in the world cares about. | |
| And if they say that that's not true, it doesn't matter what they say. | |
| I'm telling you, I know for a fact it's true. | |
| I promise you, I know it. | |
| I mean, with all the images of the rape trees, with the images of, you know, post-rape children, I mean, there's so much out there, but nonetheless, some people are just not, you know, fine with getting acquainted with the truth. | |
| I mean, what do you think about the statement that broken people like to break people, that these are individuals that are broken inside, and they are realizing that other people are being broken because of their spite, their resentment, the dark side that they hold in their souls, they are fine with having other people be broken as well. | |
| I say a couple of things that, number one, again, I don't want to diminish what people have been through, because I work with so many kids that have trauma, and it's real. | |
| I also want to say this, too. | |
| The majority of everybody that is involved in a sexualization of children, that they have been... | |
| That has been a progressive thing for them. | |
| And they have progressively and intentionally went from one stage to another stage to another stage to another stage to another stage. | |
| You can blame that on what happened to you when you were a child. | |
| But what's real is you're in your 30s and your participation and your activization and also to your entertainment. | |
| What you're actually entertained by that. | |
| You can't blame that on... | |
| It's something that happened to you when you were four or five years old if you're 24 or 25 or 35 or 55 right now. | |
| That's a ridiculous notion. | |
| Another ridiculous notion to me is that there is a place for the sexualization of children. | |
| There is a loving relationship that a grown man and a young boy or young girl can have. | |
| No. Absolutely no. | |
| Nonsense. At its finest, it's nonsense. | |
| At its worst, it's much more nefarious than that. | |
| Much more sinister than that. | |
| That's what I have to say to that. | |
| I want to throw something at you because my producing partner, Travis Ebar, a couple of nights ago was doing a bunch of research. | |
| He had one of those all-nighters where He went down the rabbit hole, right? | |
| And he was researching essentially what's happening in the United States right now in terms of the sexualization of children, the division that's being caused, the transgender, all that stuff, right? | |
| And then he started looking at historically what was going on. | |
| And I know I'm going to say the word wrong here. | |
| It's cuneiform tablets or cuneiform tablets or whatever from ancient times. | |
| And he starts realizing that there's this repetitive thing that happens throughout recorded history where these kind of ideas of like man is woman, woman is man infiltrate a society which then leads to the downfall of the society. | |
| And this has happened historically repeated itself. | |
| And the point that he was trying to make after his night of research, pretty much read an entire novel that night, or a novel's worth of material. | |
| His conclusion was that what's happening right now in the United States is a technique that has been used to destroy cultures historically, and this is something that's repeated itself, where certain things and ideas invade a culture, which then leads to the downfall of that culture. | |
| What could you say about that topic? | |
| I think it's traceable. | |
| I think it's definable. | |
| It is historic. | |
| You can look back through history. | |
| I'm a huge history nut, and I'm a huge timeline nut. | |
| And I love timelines. | |
| I love knowing how things fit into things. | |
| But you can actually see the cycle of nations, and a big part of societies and nations is once this thing enters in, and once it takes a foothold and becomes a part of the narrative, It's not good. | |
| It's so cancerous and it's so toxic that it does bring a downfall. | |
| And I think that it is actually very intentional to bring these things in, to actually bring chaos in. | |
| And it's like, okay, why do we need global chaos so that you can have global sanctions? | |
| That's why. Why do we need chaos? | |
| Why do we need chaos in this sector and that? | |
| So why would anybody purposely do that? | |
| Well, number one, it's a smokescreen for the mess that they're doing. | |
| That's number one. And then number two, it is also, hey, we're going to come in and we're going to be the good guys in some tiny way in the midst of a mess that we've actually created. | |
| And people will learn to lean on us. | |
| Those kinds of mindsets are traceable and trackable throughout history. | |
| You have to love freedom. | |
| Man, you have to be a lover of truth and a lover of freedom. | |
| And I said this at the beginning of this program. | |
| And you have to be taught that. | |
| What's real is, just because you feel like you're a girl doesn't mean that you're a girl. | |
| Where does that happen in the midst of the animal kingdom, right? | |
| It does not happen. So it's like, okay, there are two genders. | |
| And it's like the fact that we are having to argue that is so ludicrous that anybody would be opened up to that. | |
| I also want to say this. | |
| I would also like to introduce this as well and say this. | |
| I... Without being judgmental as far as knowing what anybody is a part of or knowing what's happened to them, I am going to be judgmental and I'm going to challenge every single one of your listeners to say this. | |
| If you are a part of pornography, you are a part of the sexualization of children. | |
| You say, no, I'm not. Yes, you are. | |
| And I know what I'm talking about. | |
| How in the world can you say that you are for setting a slave free if you're entertained by sexual enslavement? | |
| How in the world can you do that? | |
| With every single part of pornography, and pornography is getting worse and worse and worse and worse and worse because people are being conditioned to To go after it more and more and more and more and more. | |
| There's a predictable outcome of what happens whenever we get involved in this. | |
| I know what it actually is, Vin, because I see it. | |
| I rescue children from this. | |
| And the same people that are involved in producing this level of pornography are also the same people who are involved in producing pornography where people actually get murdered and their bodies get cut up. | |
| They're the same. It's the pornography industry. | |
| And it's like, well, that's not true. | |
| It's true. And so I would say don't be entertained by it. | |
| I mean, what about our culture in general? | |
| We're looking at essentially this culture where it's all about half-naked women, only fans. | |
| Living in Las Vegas, so many women that we talk to are part of this. | |
| It's become OK To essentially prostitute your body, to show off your nudity, to make that a part of your lifestyle, to have men and most of these beta men really filling the ego of these women, of like, oh, you're so beautiful, you're so this, you're so that. | |
| That obviously causes a balance between the male-female dynamic, or imbalance, I'm sorry. | |
| It just seems like a mess because of the sexualization of women. | |
| I'm not talking I'm talking about children right now. | |
| I'm talking about your regular over-18-year-old American woman that is infatuated with this Instagram culture, OnlyFans, all this nonsense, versus, you know, you compare it to China, and the Chinese women are not necessarily doing this prostitute-like exposes of themselves. | |
| They're doing intellectual pursuits on their TikTok. | |
| And then you compare the IQs, they're 10 points higher, we're 10 points less, you know? | |
| So, I mean, all of these factors Tell us that there's something really going wrong with society. | |
| There's something really going on with the male-female dynamic. | |
| There's an imbalance. What can you say about that topic? | |
| I would say a couple of different things. | |
| One is this. If you show me somebody who is expressive that their identity has to be expressive in the form of some nudity, some kind of public nudity, or some kind of sexual mess, you show me somebody like that. | |
| I'm going to show you somebody who at one time was a child Who did not imagine they would ever end up like that. | |
| You cannot show me a child that says, when I grow up, I want to be a prostitute. | |
| No, that's not what happens. | |
| The thing that I'm trying to say here, though, I don't think they even realize it's prostitution. | |
| That's a thing. The whole nudity, the half-naked pictures, I don't think they realize that they're objectifying themselves. | |
| This is like 10 steps back from their quote-unquote feminism. | |
| Well, they will. They will realize it, and it's going to hurt really, really bad, and that's why so many of these people that are caught in that culture, that's why they do so much dope, and that's why there's so much depression, and that's why there's so much anxiety, and that's why there's so little within our culture of anything that is really relational, anything that has depth and meaning. | |
| So, no, it all comes home to roost, every single bit of it does, and it's just terrible what it does to people. | |
| Wow, it's crazy. | |
| I mean, it's like self-destruct. | |
| It's literally self-destruction of our society and culture. | |
| What is divorce at now? | |
| Like 55%? | |
| Yeah, it is. I mean, how do we reverse it? | |
| Is there reversing this or is this now we're at a juncture where we have to set up parallel societies, parallel cities, towns where Certain kind of, I guess, moral standards are observed. | |
| I mean, what do we do now that our society has been infiltrated to a level of like a biblical Sodom and Gomorrah? | |
| Yeah, well, you know, man, I don't have tremendous answers for all of society and for all of culture, but I can tell you this. | |
| I can tell you this. Your tribe is important, and who you are connected with is important, and how intentional. | |
| You have to be more intentional now. | |
| You can't just let the television raise your kids. | |
| You can't just let Disney. | |
| God help you if you let Disney or MTV raise your kids. | |
| With that said, I truly believe, and I see it all the time, the answer, and I'm just going to tell you brother, the answer is Jesus. | |
| When people have an encounter with Jesus Christ, it transforms them and changes everything. | |
| And I'd say that it starts with each one of us individually, and then It goes from there to the people around us. | |
| How are we serving and protecting each other? | |
| How are we committed to each other? | |
| How do we do that? | |
| And is that something that's happened within me first? | |
| I'm going to protect my family. | |
| I am. And I'm going to protect myself. | |
| I'm going to protect my family. | |
| I'm going to protect my grandchildren. | |
| And I'm going to be intentionally connected with people that are of my tribe. | |
| And we're going to love each other and help each other. | |
| Yeah, yeah. And Christianity, let's talk about Christianity for a sec. | |
| You know, we've been hearing, you know, since like the 90s, since I started kind of paying a little bit of attention to what's happening in politics. | |
| I've been hearing, look, you know, Christianity, there's morals, this, that. | |
| But you don't have to be Christian to have morals. | |
| And all of us think good thoughts. | |
| All of us want, you know, want good things. | |
| Just because you're a Christian doesn't mean that you're upholding righteousness. | |
| Any normal person with morals could uphold righteousness. | |
| You don't need religion. You don't need religion. | |
| Right now, we cut to 30 years later, and it seems like the only people really standing is actually a very small minority of Christians. | |
| Sadly, pastors haven't been standing up like you've been standing up. | |
| Just like the frontline doctors that stood up against this COVID scandemic was a very small percentage, less than 1% that stood up. | |
| I think the same could be said with pastors. | |
| But nonetheless, the little bit of bravery and standing up is coming from people that have Christian beliefs. | |
| So what do you tell to these people that say, oh, you don't have to be Christian to be morally upright, when you look at really what's happening right now and the fact that Christians, very few Christians, have been courageous enough to stand up to this nonsense? | |
| Oh my gosh, that's like three different levels of things for me. | |
| But first of all, I would just say to you, my friend, Vin, and I would say to everybody else, no, listen, you do need Jesus. | |
| Jesus is the one that's going to outlast everything. | |
| He was here at the beginning. | |
| He was there at the end. And that's just not some pie-in-the-sky galactic thing that I picked up. | |
| It's the reality. It has always been reality, and it will always be the reality, no matter how screwed up the church has been. | |
| No matter how messed up the church has been or those of us that are involved in Christianity. | |
| But no, man, you do have to know Jesus. | |
| He is eternal. He knows how to get you through any single thing. | |
| Having the wisdom of God is such a big deal. | |
| I would also say this too, past that. | |
| I would say that when it comes to, you know, does Christianity matter within a society? | |
| My goodness. What other group of people comes into a society, transforms it, and sets everybody else free? | |
| Who are those people that that's ever done? | |
| It's like, okay, if you, brother, if you look at all of the great societies, if you go back, you know, I don't know, the Babylonians, the Medes, the Persians, the Greeks, the Romans, and continue on. | |
| All the way up until Christianity entered into all of those great empires, including the Egyptians, up until Christianity entered into it, are you ready for this? | |
| Out of all the archeological studies they've ever done, they've never found one single orphanage. | |
| They've never found one single hospital. | |
| They've never found one single anything that is for the betterment of everybody else that is in there. | |
| Until the gospel of Jesus Christ actually enters into a society, it is always selfishly devoted. | |
| And so if anybody can show me something different, they might be able to show me an extraordinary human being that got it for a moment. | |
| But there has never been a body that went from nation to nation to nation and set people free. | |
| And I just said, hey, we're going to build this for your betterment. | |
| We're not building this for our betterment. | |
| So for anybody that says, ah, we don't need any of that, it's just foolish nonsense. | |
| You better have it or it's going to be messed up. | |
| Yeah. I mean, Napoleon said something to the effect of, like, you know, he said something like that guy with the sandals is more powerful than any conqueror ever in history. | |
| I'm talking about Jesus Christ, you know? | |
| Yes, sir. Absolutely amazing. | |
| You know, he's changed everything. | |
| I just love him. I think he's so cool. | |
| And you know what? To me, you know, Jesus is not a hippie to me, even though he wears sandals. | |
| To me, Jesus is very much a warrior, and he's just so brave. | |
| And he's just so willing to get involved. | |
| And just having a yes in my spirit and saying, no, I'm going to be involved, and I'm going to be proactive. | |
| And I might not get everything right, but at least I'm doing something. | |
| And it might be a little bit messy. | |
| And I might not say everything right. | |
| And somebody might be able to say, well, you did this or you said that. | |
| You know what? My butt was not addicted to the couch. | |
| And the world was a better place because I took Jesus into that place. | |
| And that's where I am. | |
| And that's where I'm always going to be. | |
| I love that place. Wow. | |
| Amazing. Troy, thank you so much for the amazing work that you do. | |
| In closing, is there anything that we didn't touch upon or talk about that you'd like to mention? | |
| Well, thank you. I would just like to say that however big of a deal people think that it is that we find a solution to what's happening at our borders, it's much greater than that. | |
| We do a huge work on both sides of the border. | |
| What we are seeing at the borders of Texas and Mexico Is worse than anything I have ever seen in any nation on the planet Earth. | |
| As far as how children are tortured, the sexual ritual abuse, just how their body parts, all these things. | |
| It is so horrendous and there's nothing that these kids can do about it. | |
| There's nothing that the parents can do about it that have these kids. | |
| The cartel doesn't just own the border. | |
| The cartel owns everything south of the border for about 200 miles because everybody is coming there and they actually weed through them. | |
| And what we're saving kids out of is just so extreme that I literally have to choose I have to choose what stories I tell. | |
| I have to choose what things... | |
| I have to choose how deep I'm going to be involved into knowing the horrific acts that are taking place. | |
| And I have to choose to be involved in the transformation of the kids' lives. | |
| And the world yawns. | |
| And DC yawns. | |
| And the policies that have opened the borders is, it's so intentional. | |
| And we have to believe, we have to stand together as Christians, as Americans, as freedom-loving people and say our borders have to be closed and we have to support those people that are boots on the ground that are doing something there because everybody is in way over their heads. | |
| And I would like to express that because that is the truth. | |
| Yeah, yeah. I mean, we're seeing this disgusting world right now where basically because of politics, I mean, it seems as though, you know, orange man bad has like foreign people's brains because, you know, and I think about those liberal women that were shutting the doors on our face. | |
| And granted, I look like a white boy, but the dude next to me He certainly did not look like a white boy. | |
| If I went to the Hollywood casting, literally I couldn't... | |
| You know, get a more perfect Mexican immigrant next to me. | |
| And nonetheless, we were being told that we're liars, we're white supremacists, which is like how, I mean, to call a deeply brown person a white supremacist, I mean, it just seems as though people are off their rockers and they're making all sorts of excuses to hide the carnage that's happening out there. | |
| It's almost like their brains cannot take it. | |
| And by accepting it, they're going to accept the fact that they're We're part of that evil, which is just insane. | |
| The denial is absolutely insane of what's happening on a biblical level, you know? | |
| Vin, you are part of the fight, and I encourage you, my brother, and all the people that are watching, I mean, I just encourage you guys, be brave, be strong, do not run away, keep doing this thing, and this is what I tell everybody, keep fighting until you get it right. | |
| And it doesn't matter. You know, it's like, man, they came up with stuff I didn't know how to answer. | |
| They presented something that was appalling to me. | |
| They made me look like a fool. | |
| Keep fighting. Keep fighting. | |
| Keep fighting. Because you will outlast them. | |
| And I bless you in Jesus' name. | |
| And I'm grateful for the work that you're doing. | |
| Thank you. God bless you, too. | |
| God bless you, too, sir. I mean, you've saved, like I said, your Schindler. | |
| Actually, you know, your numbers are three times Schindler, so, you know, in terms of saving people. | |
| So thank you very much for all the amazing work that you're doing, putting your life on the line, risking your reputation. | |
| I know that, you know, people that are doing what you do get attacked. | |
| They're called all sorts of names. | |
| And to the viewers out there, thank you for joining us for this very important Blood Money episode. | |
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