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My Daughter was Killed by the Hospital Killing Fields - w/ Scott Schara and Jeff Wagner

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	Blood Money Episode 92 with Scott Shara and Jeff Wagner My daughter was killed by the hospital Killing Fields and we made a movie about this evil conspiracy to kill our children.
	Alright, so we're on the latest episode of Blood Money with two very special guests, Jeff Wagner and Scott Shara.
	Did I get that right?
	You got it. Alright, cool.
	How you guys doing? Wonderful.
	So, let's just dive right into it.
	Jeff, if you don't mind quickly introducing yourself, what you're doing and what capacity you work with Scott.
	Sure. So I am the host of a show called The Patriot Review, which is on frankspeech.com and rightamericamedia.com and all your typical stream sites, streaming sites.
	And back in 2022, I had Scott on that show to talk about what happened to his family and his daughter, Grace.
	And since then, I've attended some of the rallies that he has had and And Scott asked me to actually help him and work on this documentary telling this story.
	And since the time we originally began it, the project has really ballooned and it's become, I think, much larger than what we both first anticipated.
	So we're excited about it.
	Is it okay, Scott, before I have you speak a little bit about yourself, is it okay if I just play the preview of the documentary that just Jeff has been working on about your daughter?
	♪ After we watched our daughter, Grace, die on FaceTime, I immediately felt that I needed to go to the hospital, though I was still pretty sick.
	And I met Jessica and our pastor there.
	And while we were in the room, It was just a horrific sight to come upon.
	Our daughter Grace was now gone.
	The emotions that came over the top of our minds and our physical bodies were just unbelief.
	We took her BiPAP off because it was still on.
	This was her hope and prayers that somehow she wasn't really gone.
	And as soon as we did that, the color of grace changed.
	And we had to accept that she was truly gone.
	Not one person stepped foot in that room.
	How can you do that?
	How can you allow an innocent A person, a child, she's only 19 years old.
	Die in front of your eyes.
	You don't do that.
	If you're human, you don't do that.
	♪♪ They knew they weren't gonna convince us to put Grace on a ventilator.
	That means the money was going to dry up.
	They had to have the money.
	And when you follow the money trail all the way through, you see that a ventilator is about a $300,000 decision.
	That they had higher-paying patients in the emergency room.
	Graces were more dead than alive.
	Wow, that's incredibly powerful and I mean, if I could have a word before you talk, Scott, about this documentary.
	I mean, it seems as though having done, you know, we're up to 88 episodes of this podcast, Blood Money, and And we consistently expose stories about conspiracies, controversies, and corruption.
	And it seems as though all of our industrial complexes in the United States, not just the medical industrial complex, but all of our industrial complexes are really geared towards the destruction of people Over a financial amount.
	Now, in this preview, we talked about the ventilators, how this child was worth more to the system dead than alive because of the $300,000 incentive.
	Then you look at organizations like CPS, our family law industry, where literal Price amounts are put on the destruction of children, that this institutionalized destruction of children actually makes these court systems a lot of money.
	And I just see essentially an entire variety of industrial complexes that are geared towards our destruction.
	And I just wanted to make that point because watching a very powerful preview about what happened to Grace, I'm sad to say, but it's happening across our industrial complexes on an industrial level now.
	So anyway, excuse that rant, but I just felt like I had to make that point.
	Scott, you know, tell us, introduce yourself.
	Tell us a little bit about what happened to you and your family.
	I'm having a hard time hearing you.
	I wonder if I should go out and come back in.
	You're frozen right now.
	Oh, I am? Okay, okay.
	Jeff, are you experiencing the same issue?
	Oh, both you guys are good.
	All of a sudden, you just opened up again.
	Okay. So, I did hear what you said about the medical industrial complex.
	I mean, no doubt that that's true, and it's way bigger, of course, as you noted, other than it's infiltrated all of our society.
	We've been programmed to believe things that are Complete lies.
	It starts with the American dream that we're free.
	Well, we're not free at all.
	I didn't know any of this until Grace died.
	I've become awake. Jeff met me as I was waking up.
	I don't know that anybody can be totally awake.
	He's right on. This project got substantially bigger and it's because Grace's story has got so big.
	I've been on about 500 interviews now.
	We filed a lawsuit on April 11th, the first of its kind.
	And so the story has gotten so big and the documentary expanded because of all the different people that I've met through this process of sharing the story.
	I'm humbled to be used like this.
	I can hardly believe it's happening in our country.
	People who are not awake have a hard time believing what we have to say.
	You know, for the last three years, I know that our group has been going to great extent to let people know what's been going on, especially since this COVID jab started.
	And that seems to have been You know, part of this depopulation agenda from, you know, after having spoken to 20 something frontline doctors, they all say the same thing, that this job is destructive and people's eyes are starting to open.
	And what we're noticing is that now that people on a wholesale level are feeling sick, they're going through their nine to fives, not feeling themselves, having noticeable damage to their health, people are starting to open their eyes and they're becoming curious about this.
	And it seems as though You, through your experiences with what happened to Grace, went through this eye-opening experience as well.
	I mean, what did it feel like to realize that in our country, people are actually incentivized to cause damage to the population for financial gain?
	A lot of the points took me a couple of weeks just to percolate through my head.
	And now that I am on the other side of it, what it feels like is interestingly different.
	Because what I see now that I am doing this full-time is that most of the people who are in this movement, I don't think they believe how bad it really is.
	They seem to be...
	Certainly on the medical freedom side of the scale, but this is terrible.
	I'm in the hospital murder lane, to be blunt.
	That lane has not been exposed yet.
	This film exposes that lane.
	Hardly anybody knows that this is even happening.
	This has been happening for decades.
	That's what I've uncovered.
	This has nothing to do with COVID. This agenda has been around for a long, long time.
	And as Jeff is very well aware, I mean, it got codified with Obamacare on March 23rd of 2010.
	You know, nobody reads Obamacare, but I challenge anybody listening to pull it up.
	Google Obamacare or brave it, whatever you want.
	It's 974 pages long.
	Read section 1553, which is page 141.
	Read it. It will change your life because all of a sudden you'll see that we were the first.
	We're always the first. Our country is always the first with evil.
	And then we point our finger to everybody else.
	We project sin like no other country in the world.
	We are those naughty Canadians with their medical assistance in dying program.
	We had medical assistance in dying way before the Canadians.
	We invented it. And we codified it in Obamacare.
	And it's right there for the review.
	When you read that page, it changes your whole view because you realize they put it in writing and are implementing it and have been implementing it for decades.
	My daughter was taken out because of that agenda, not because of COVID. Right.
	And if I could just step in just a second here, the whole euthanasia movement, that was a big thing in the 1920s and 30s.
	It was huge. There were a lot of famous people.
	And I have a clip of Bernard Shaw, or...
	George Bernard Shaw, who was a playwright, right?
	And he's talking about how if people are useless, they should be terminated.
	They don't need to exist if they're not contributing.
	Who determines that?
	That's the problem. Do you remember the meetings that they had publicly about Obamacare?
	And the Republicans around the table were saying they're going to have death committees, right?
	They're going to have... These boards that decide who lives and dies based on their value.
	And of course, everybody shunned those folks and laughed at them.
	But here we are today in the exact situation that they were warning about.
	Wow, wow. Now, you said, Scott, you said that this has been going on for years.
	I mean, it's definitely become very apparent with the killing fields, the hospital killing fields of COVID-19.
	How, you know, remdesivir, all the different systems that ultimately resulted in death for so many.
	I mean, it's become very clear.
	But what do you mean when you say it's been going on for decades?
	Could you please elaborate?
	As to what's been going on for decades in regards to the hospital killing fields.
	So if you just process this just in terms of Obamacare.
	So that's decades just with Obamacare.
	So we'll start with that and then we can go backwards.
	So Obamacare was put into law March 23rd of 2010.
	The impetus behind Obamacare was euthanasia.
	In fact, The chief architect of Obamacare was Ezekiel Emanuel.
	In 1996, he said, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed.
	So that is all of us someday.
	We'll be non-participating citizens.
	And when that day arrives, whatever for us to decide, because there's people smarter than us that get to decide that.
	Of course, I'm saying that tongue in cheek.
	Then once we become non-participating citizens, we don't deserve health care.
	So you start with that.
	So that man is the key architect of Obamacare.
	So it's no surprising that page 141, section 1553 documents the euthanasia, mercy killing, and assisted suicide.
	It's right in the document. It says that is how they're going to kill us.
	So it's no surprise that that's in there.
	Okay, so then let's go back further.
	How can you convince a doctor to...
	Commit euthanasia or assisted suicide or mercy killing.
	How does that even work?
	How could you convince a man to implement something to kill another man?
	That doesn't make any sense.
	But they do it under the spirit of collectivism.
	So collectivism means the good of the mass versus individualism, the good of the individual.
	And they lied to us by implementing the Hippocratic Oath.
	Many, many decades ago to get us to believe in a document.
	These doctors have to sign the Hippocratic Oath.
	A doctor wrote me just last week.
	He said, Scott, I want to remind you, we never have had to sign the Hippocratic Oath.
	The Hippocratic Oath was put in place to get the population to believe we're following individualism when in fact we're following collectivism.
	So then what they do is they do training documents so that these guys' consciences get seared.
	And an example of a training document we found, my daughter Grace had Down syndrome.
	So, of course, my research started with Down syndrome.
	One of the training documents we found with Down syndrome, and this spirit of collectivism has been going on way before Obamacare.
	And the excuse they use, Val, I'm sorry, is that it's...
	Financially impossible to maintain the system of Medicare and Medicaid.
	That's the excuse they use.
	Well, just think about how foolish that is.
	That's another lie because we don't...
	So when did that lie start?
	Well, that started back when we started the fiat currency.
	So we don't have any balancing of budget even necessary anymore.
	So why do they even bring that up?
	Because people can't grasp the concept of a fiat currency.
	All right, so back to the training document I mentioned, and then I'll slow down.
	You got me pretty wound up with that question.
	So this training document is from the Palliative Care Network of Wisconsin.
	Jeff and I are from Wisconsin.
	Grace is from Wisconsin. So just put your state in here.
	This is written by two MDs.
	This is to train doctors and nurses about how to handle patients with Down syndrome.
	It's called palliative care for patients with Down syndrome.
	They don't say anything positive.
	They introduce Down syndrome as problem after problem after problem.
	So that first title is causes of morbidity and death and Down syndrome.
	So they list about 40 problems Down syndrome people can have.
	Sleep apnea, dental issues, Cardiac septal defects, thyroid dysfunction, blah, blah, blah.
	So why do they list all those problems?
	Well, the reason they list those problems is they are setting up the doctor to use the excuse of collectivism to take this group of the population out.
	So their transition statement says this, the lifelong toll on families is high.
	So when you read that litany, if you don't know anything about people with Down syndrome, you think, oh my gosh, Why would any family want somebody that has Down syndrome?
	These are just problems, right?
	So the lifelong toll on families is high.
	The lifelong toll on our family of having Grace was fantastic.
	She made us a better family.
	She made me a better dad.
	Because she just loved the way God intended.
	So then they say, part of a robust plan of care includes acknowledgement of this toll by healthcare workers.
	So the healthcare workers are supposed to acknowledge that these families don't want the Down syndrome child.
	All right? So now they set the stage for the kill.
	I mean, this is right in the published document.
	It says whenever possible, decision makers, that's the doctors, for people with Down syndrome should be encouraged to use substituted judgment, their judgment, to make key palliative care decisions.
	All efforts should be made to determine the preferences of the patient.
	However, because of lifelong cognitive impairment, the views of the person with Down syndrome may not be known.
	Just process that insanity.
	I know the view of every single person with Down syndrome on the entire planet.
	They want to live just like I want to live, just like you want to live them, and just like Jeff wants to live.
	Why does a Down syndrome...
	It makes no sense.
	That they talk nothing about the child's capacity to love, being a loving creature, nothing emotional.
	It's all detachment.
	And one thing I noticed, I mean, frankly, this is straight, like, Third Reich, Fourth Reich, whatever Nazi ideology.
	I mean, straight out of, like, straight out of, like, literal, like, Hitler's teachings in Mein Kampf getting rid of people that don't fit a certain level of perfection of the elite.
	So Nazism, that's where we are with...
	That's because, so now you take it all the way back then.
	That's because Hitler adopted our thinking.
	We invented this crap.
	We invented eugenics in the United States.
	Hitler adopted from us.
	And then we pulled the chief architect still working for Hitler through Operation Paperclip back in the United States.
	So that's why I can say this has been going on for decades.
	And when it's convenient to play on people's emotions and say, oh, look how bad Hitler is.
	He was killing, you know, people that were not in vision of his perfection, the Aryan, you know, perfect image in his eyes.
	I mean, they made him out to be a bad guy because of that.
	But our system is essentially using the same techniques.
	And as you're saying, we invented this stuff.
	Hitler was a hero. I mean, he was...
	Charles Lindbergh loved Hitler.
	He went to Germany to visit him before all the deaths started happening.
	And this film, I'm glad you brought him up because there's a lot of films that are out there right now that deal with a piece of this overall problem.
	This Breaking the Oath is the only film that I'm aware of that brings us all together in a worldview.
	And we make direct parallels.
	We have Vera Sharab, who's a Holocaust survivor, is one of the guests on this program, this movie.
	And she makes direct parallels, seeing what's happening in America today and what was happening back when she was a little girl in Nazi Germany.
	And really, when you start comparing them...
	It's literally shocking because it wakes you up just in thinking about that and going down that path.
	So that's one of the things that the documentary, I mean, the guy that's behind me on the screen, he is more...
	A dangerous and a more evil person than Dr.
	Mengele was, who was famous for his experiments on twins and children.
	By the way, do you mind if I pause you right there?
	Because people are going to listen to that statement, some people, and they're going to say, oh, right-wing conspiracy theorists and all that stuff.
	But the numbers alone, I mean, when you look at how many people were murdered in World War II, right?
	If you look at the gypsies and the Nazis and...
	12 million. So what we're looking at right now, according to a lot of these frontline doctors, is potentially up to a billion.
	Keep in mind that Mengele, I mean, he had a very limited number of kids that he killed.
	And yes, he sent people to the gas chamber.
	But this guy that's behind me, Mengla looked people in the eye and did it.
	This guy doesn't care.
	Right now there's 7 million deaths around the world in COVID and only going up.
	So what's the difference between those two?
	This guy, in my opinion, that's behind me is much worse.
	Yeah, yeah. It's just he's protected by the system.
	He's protected by the system.
	I mean, he is roaming around free and not get too political.
	But today, you know, we just heard that a certain former president was, you know, based upon no evidence is now found guilty for defaming somebody that he claims lied and said that like You know, he raped her.
	I mean, I don't want to bring that up because he's such a polarizing figure, but it just shows that in every industrial complex, including our legal fields, all the standards have disappeared.
	There's no standards in law.
	There's no standards in medicine, you know?
	Oaths are broken.
	I mean, just like the doctors are breaking their oaths, the lawyers are breaking their oaths.
	I mean, how far have we come as a country?
	And is there a way to repair this?
	Is there a way to make a U-turn?
	Who are you asking? Whoever wants to take the question.
	Go ahead, Scott. Well, I absolutely think there's a way to make a U-turn.
	God wrote it out in the Bible At the beginning, you know, it's called repentance.
	And any other method other than repentance first will not accomplish the goal.
	Period. End of story.
	There's a lot of people promoting solutions right now, but they're man-made solutions.
	We got into this trouble because we rejected God and put man in place of God.
	So you can't have man-made solutions fix man-made problems.
	This is a God-sized problem, and the only way out of it is repentance.
	Otherwise, it's over. God has done this before, and He's going to do it again.
	When you say it's over, are we talking about something catastrophic, like, you know, I mean, that we've seen over and over again in the Bible, the wrath of God, so to speak, or are you talking about it's over, like our country's over, there's no future here?
	I think the wrath of God is at the doorstep if we don't repent.
	That's where I see it. I mean, I think we are clearly in the days of Noah.
	We have evil being called good.
	We have good being called evil.
	In the days of Noah, the Nephilim had infiltrated the Entire population.
	So God had to eliminate the entire population other than Noah and his family in order to keep the seed pure so that Jesus could come.
	And so what is the goal of these elites?
	I mean, they have the sustainability agenda.
	Of course, we've got to manage the population.
	We've got to manage the planet.
	You know, that seems, you know, they're a wolf in sheep's clothing, of course, with that.
	But their real agenda is transhumanism.
	So, transhumanism is really the same thing.
	We're not going to have any pure human seed.
	I make a point in the video and part of it that talks about the arrogance of...
	Of people in general, but of Americans in particular, when we look back at those genocides that have occurred in the past, whether it's Mao in China or Lenin-Stalin or Hitler, as we were discussing, we look back and we say, well, how did the people ever allow that to happen, right?
	And to me, that is the only thing that I need to add on to Scott's point about, can we turn it around?
	Well, we've got to stop tolerating stuff.
	Stop tolerating, you know, at your local level, stop tolerating this crap that they're trying to shove down your throats.
	And you don't have to be violent.
	You just pick up a document like the one I was talking to you about, and you get educated on it, and you push back on it.
	I'm gonna put on this document, by the way.
	You're speaking about the grand jury evidence?
	Yeah, right. Yeah, I'm just gonna flash this on screen.
	Could you talk a little bit about what this image is representing?
	So this is a document that originally I got from David Sorensen's StopTheWorld.com.
	It's an excellent website. This is a document that I think would be very beneficial for any viewer who's going to watch Breaking the Oath or anybody who just is shaking their head no and, you know, being skeptical about what we're talking about.
	This document shows you the history and it provides the proof that you need to really come to an understanding that what we're talking about is really happening.
	This document is the equivalent to Mein Kampf was.
	If only the Germans would have taken that seriously when he said he was going to kill all the Jews.
	This document shows that this whole situation that we find ourselves in today is deliberate, it's planned, and it's being executed.
	And the whole COVID thing, the vaccine, all that, they're just spiderweb strands and overall web that includes all kinds of other things, like the environmentalism and how crushing what they want to do to our societies in the name of environmental fascism,
	basically. So that document has 120 individual links that source everything that's said in there, and it's just indisputable.
	It's evidence, and you can go to the website, America First Productions, and go to Breaking the Oath, and you'll see, under Breaking the Oath, you'll see evidence, and you can download that document.
	Yep, yep. And we've done quite a few Blood Money episodes.
	For anybody out there that has even a smidgen of doubt, you should watch some of these doctors talk about what has happened to our population, because it is without a doubt population controlled.
	It's Holocaust, genocide.
	Frankly, the worst genocide or Holocaust in the history of humankind.
	There's never been numbers of this kind.
	I mean, we're talking about 7 million, but when you talk about all these people dying because of the jab, The buildup of spike proteins, you know, heart attacks creeping up a year, two, three years later.
	I mean, we're looking at like a billion plus.
	This is the biggest threat that mankind has ever had.
	This is global genocide.
	This isn't genocide in Nazi Germany.
	This isn't genocide in the Soviet Union.
	This is global genocide.
	And it's being done, and they'll tell you right in the documents of World Economic Forum, they say they want to get the population down to 500 million or less.
	It's also in the Guidestones in Georgia, if you've ever heard of the Guidestones.
	That's number one on their list, is maintain a population of 500 million people.
	Seven and a half billion of us.
	Yeah. Seven and a half billion people.
	Wow. You know, Jeff, this hasn't been an easy process for you because while you've been making this documentary, I mean, you've had health issues.
	Can you tell us a little bit about the process of making this documentary and some of the challenges that you're dealing with just on a personal level to see it through?
	Well, you know, originally I was in corporate America, as I was talking to you before the show here.
	And in 2019, I got diagnosed with a disease called interstitial cystitis.
	It's a disease that, you know, 99% of the people that have it are female.
	So I'm the lucky 1% male who All the treatments are not made for.
	And it's kind of like having a severe bladder infection all the time.
	So pain is a constant everyday thing for me.
	And that said, I still view that as a blessing because that was given to me by God so that I could do this.
	And that's the truth of it.
	This slowed me down.
	This really put me in a place where I got to decide what's important to me.
	And going through your midlife crisis like I was at 54 or 55, you're thinking, what's my legacy?
	Well, the legacy is freedom, and that's what everybody's legacy should be.
	Not only in America, but we've got to go back to the individual, as Scott was talking about, the individual liberty.
	And they're trying to take that away from everybody right now.
	It's your children.
	They're taking your children away.
	Going on the gender transformation behind your back and all this stuff that's going on.
	So really, it's been a privilege.
	It's been an honor for me to not only do this documentary, but to do my show.
	I've met so many wonderful people.
	And my advice would be, no matter what your challenges are, Decide what you're good at.
	Decide what you can contribute and do it.
	We gotta have this legacy of freedom.
	That's what we have to do.
	I mean, what makes you compelled to become part of this movement?
	Is it just your fight to freedom?
	I mean, what is it about this that makes this the most crucial fight?
	Well, I fully believe in the idea of America.
	And if you have children, you know, when you put your head on your pillow at night, the last thing that you want to think of is, my kids are going to be enslaved.
	And they're going to have terrible, miserable lives because some elitist Nazi...
	Nazi, exactly.
	Thinks that they know better.
	So that's my motivation.
	I just really believe that people should be free.
	They should be able to pursue their dreams.
	They should pursue happiness, right?
	The pursuit of happiness. It's just our government needs to, pardon me, get the hell out of the way and let people pursue their happiness.
	Yeah, Scott, so who are you before all this happened and how would you describe yourself now?
	Well, I was a business owner that worked way too many hours.
	I was motivated to have the business survive my death so that it would take care of my daughter, Grace, and my wife, Cindy, after I was gone.
	I've been a business owner for over 30 years.
	Thank God I developed heart disease about six years ago.
	I was diagnosed with that.
	It took a long time to get it to that point.
	Then, six years ago, I started training my guys to run the business.
	Now, the transition was fairly easy.
	I am doing this full-time.
	I've become a full-time advocate, researcher.
	God knew that it was going to be Put a fire in my belly to do this.
	And he set this up six years prior so that my guys can run the business and the business can take care of this project that we're working on.
	You know, this project is this whole thing.
	We have 18 billboards up.
	We filed a lawsuit.
	You know, all of that takes a fair amount of cash flow to be able to Do all that, but you know, that's what I do now.
	So before I would have said, I would, I described myself as a businessman who had a healthy, I was a conservative with a healthy distrust for the government.
	Now I would say that I'm an advocate and I completely think our government is totally corrupt.
	Both parties, I think they're all in on it.
	And I think that, um, The only way out of this is for people to wake up.
	Think through how easy, like Jeff said, if people just stood.
	So when they demanded masks, if everybody said, screw it, we're not wearing masks, it would have been over.
	No, they didn't.
	And then when people were told you had to get the jab to keep their job, say, no, we're not doing that.
	That would have been over. You have to wear a mask to get on an airplane.
	No, we're not doing it. I mean, it would have shut the airlines down.
	So then they would have had to retreat from these crazy, draconian positions.
	But they saw how easy it was to take the masses by far.
	I mean, the masses agreed with all this.
	You know, this crazy shot.
	Think through that. Right now, anybody can read the Brooke Jackson filing.
	Brooke Jackson filed the False Claims Act against Pfizer.
	Read it. It says it was never a vaccine.
	But then our government, so you read that document, then you see they're still promoting the, you know, whatever, the 18th jab.
	You have Chelsea Clinton as of two days ago.
	Going out there and saying that every child, every baby should be vaccinated when they know this kills children.
	I mean, how can you look at them and say you're not a pile of evil crap when she has access to this information, but she is essentially promoting the manslaughter, the murder of children.
	At least that's the way I look at it.
	Well, they're in the practice of using fear, which is, again, one of the key tools that has been used throughout history.
	And that's, to Scott's point, that's how they got people to take the jab.
	It's how they got people to wear the mask.
	Nobody, my background in corporate America was safety and environmental compliance.
	So I knew it was complete nonsense that you put a cotton weave mask that's 80 micron holes in it, or a 60 micron, you know, virus.
	Right, it's so stupid.
	Yeah, yeah. I used to tell people, hey, next time you have to go to the bathroom and sit on the throne, put a mask on, see if you can still smell it.
	It's funny because that was the big joke.
	Like a guy I knew went around farting around people and being like, could you smell that?
	Well, your mask doesn't work because my fart particles are a lot smaller than the COVID particles.
	Exactly. Exactly.
	Yeah. Yeah. You know, Scott, like if I told you 10 years ago that our government would be conspiring to murder 95% of us, what would you have told me?
	Yeah, that's a fantastic question.
	I was literally thinking about that this morning.
	What if somebody told me this 10 years ago?
	I would not have believed them.
	However, and this is why a research component of my advocacy is a big deal, because I'm analytical, and if they would have shown me documents, They would have convinced me.
	They wouldn't have convinced me with their testimony.
	Because, you know, unless I trusted them, you know, then they could have convinced me with their testimony.
	But show me the documents.
	Show me the evidence. And that's why I like to show evidence whenever I'm talking, because that's the tool that convinces me.
	And when you see something like that, the Brooke Jackson documents, Section 1553 of Obamacare, You know, the palliative care training for Down Syndrome kids.
	You see these things in writing and it's like, I mean, it's there and it's plain to read.
	You don't have to even interpret.
	Yeah, unbelievable stuff, unbelievable stuff.
	I mean, I just think to myself, you know, when you talk about these agendas and, you know, eugenics and all that, you know, something like 60 million black kids have been aborted.
	Not jumping to the, you know, topic of abortion, but it's similar because they're talking about similar depopulation agendas.
	And you wonder, you know, how many Martin Luther Kings were in there, you know?
	How many wonderful, intelligent people?
	It's like these outliers that you least expect that rise up to the challenge and become leaders and great people, right?
	And how many of those did we lose because of this wholesale corruption?
	Because essentially, this agenda to murder massive portions of the population.
	Jeff, what are your hopes for the documentary?
	I mean, what happens next?
	I think you were saying that on May 22nd, you have your premiere.
	May 21st, we have a private event theater premiere.
	May 22nd is the public release.
	May 22nd is also the release of a director's edition version that has more footage and back behind the scenes stuff.
	My hope for this is that it's impactful and that it convinces people to do their own studying and that they listen to what Scott just said and look at that evidence and decide for themselves That they need to stop worrying about the small things in life, as people say, the first world problems, because we have a lot bigger problems right now, and everybody needs to step up and do their part in it.
	The last thing I'll say about the documentary is that there are 43 other families that That their loved one died in a similar manner to how Grace died.
	And my opinion of that is that they were murdered.
	And when you go through the film and you watch the film and at the end...
	You brought a great point with how many Martin Luther Kings were there.
	Every one of those individuals has a story.
	Every one of those individuals has a story.
	And their families and their friends, just the heartbreak that has gone around the world because of these people, it should infuriate every decent person on the planet.
	Yeah, yeah. The enemy is within.
	I mean, enough talking about Hitlers and Stalins when the Hitlers and Stalins are here today right now in action and never again is complete BS because look how easy it is.
	I mean, think about it this way.
	It's like this was a virus that doesn't even do that much damage.
	What happens when something truly damaging comes?
	In a way, a lot of people, you know, assume that this was just a testing ground.
	Let's see how this kind of relatively benign virus, and I'm talking in regards to COVID-19, let's see what that does to the people.
	And then what happens when something that actually kills 5% of the population comes out?
	I mean, it's really scary stuff how easy it is to have people give up their freedoms.
	You know, we saw it with the Patriot Act.
	We're seeing it right now. Is there anything in closing, Scott and Jeff, that we didn't talk about that you'd want to mention or discuss?
	I wouldn't mind just framing the film as far as how I see it.
	This film exposes one tentacle Of the antichrist beast system.
	So we're in the antichrist beast system.
	I mean, that's what we're in. That means that Satan is the prince of this world, which we know.
	And his minions have convinced us to rely on pharmaceuticals and the white coats instead of God to heal our bodies.
	Remember, I'm in the hospital murder lane.
	And so that's why I'm talking about this.
	And they even invented, like I said earlier, the Hippocratic Oath to further entrench the lie.
	And now the trap has been set.
	I see that COVID was a diversion for the bigger trap, you know, the bigger evil trap, but then Is there something else coming?
	Well, the book of Revelation says a second beast system is coming that replaces the first beast system.
	And that's the false prophet system.
	And remember, this is a battle for souls.
	So Satan doesn't care if he looks evil on one side or if he looks good as an angel of light on the other side.
	And every chance I get, I want to frame What we're doing in that light.
	So we're definitely exposing evil with this film.
	But if we only expose evil, we miss the mark.
	Because we also have to share what God's plan is.
	And God has a plan to Rectify evil through repentance and through His Son, Jesus Christ.
	And that always has to be said.
	Otherwise, we're just contributing to the next level if all we're doing is exposing evil.
	We're shining God's light on evil is what we're doing.
	Exactly, exactly.
	And evil has a lot harder time surviving in the light than it does in the darkness.
	Jeff, any last words?
	Yeah, just in closing, I would say, you know, people can, on the 21st or 22nd, they can go to americafirstproductions.com.
	They can see the documentary there for free.
	The release will also be on the Patriot Review sites, so all the social media, the rumbles and all those.
	And then... I would like to say, too, that there is a positive story in this as well, and that is, you know, what you can do for your families.
	And there's an example in there in the documentary.
	I won't give it away, but if you want to know how to fight back, that's part of the documentary as well.
	It's not all just... You know, so that part of it, as Scott mentioned, you know, that's an important piece of it, and we need to remember that.
	There's good things. The last thing I'll say is I have this saying that I share with my viewers, and that is, remember the ripple.
	And what I mean by that is, for all of you out there who just don't think that you can contribute to fighting this evil, We're good to go.
	Like a butterfly effect.
	I mean, you might tell somebody something, that person tells somebody else, and you save a life without even knowing it, because you don't know what happened to that truth, that word that you put out.
	You know, gentlemen, amazing work.
	Jeff, is there a way for people to donate to you, by the way?
	Because you're obviously doing this stuff for free.
	I mean, you're giving out the documentary for free.
	Is there a way for people to help you out?
	People can purchase the Director's Edition.
	If they use America First, America No.
	1 ST, they get $10 off.
	So check that out.
	And I have a donate button on both RedBloodedPatriots.com, which is my Patriot Review Show website, and then America First Productions, which is on the bottom of the screen there.
	I'd appreciate anything anyone can give, and if anybody has ideas for following up and really exposing more of this stuff, I'm always open to helping people out as well.
	Jeff, didn't you also tell me that if anybody wants to contribute more than $500,000, they're supposed to do that by wire transfer?
	Yeah, right.
	I don't recall thinking that big, Scott, but I need to do that.
	Well, I mean, for the viewers, you know, this is the way we're going to get out of this mess, right?
	I mean, we saw how networks that are run due to pharmaceutical finances with these corrupted industrial complexes, I mean, they will tell you lies that literally result in the death and destruction of your family.
	And I know what happened to Scott wasn't necessarily because of these COVID jabs, but Like you were saying, this has been going on for decades.
	We just found out about it because it happened on such an industrial level to the mass population of this world, right?
	And so the way we beat this corruption is by supporting people like Jeff, and frankly, you know, supporting people like America happens, what we do over here with the Blood Money podcast, because that's the way the truth is going to come out.
	And so kindly, if you could afford it, please consider donating to Jeff.
	Please consider supporting this very worthy cause.
	And I thank you, gentlemen, for showing up to this Blood Money podcast.
	Thank you so much. And thank you so much, Scott, for coming out and telling your story about what happened to your beautiful daughter.
	To the viewers out there, thank you so much for showing up to the Blood Money podcast.
	Please join us for the next episode and please also check out our platform, AmericaHappens.com, where we have all of our shows posted, including Blood Money, including Conspiracy Truths by Mindy Robinson, Gianna Michele, State National University, Joey Gilbert's Gloves Off.
	I will see you on the next episode of Blood Money.
	Blood Money.
	I'm going to be honest.
	My daughter was killed by the hospital Killing Fields and we made a movie about this evil conspiracy to kill our children.
	Alright, so we're on the latest episode of Blood Money with two very special guests.
	Jeff Wagner and Scott Shara.
	Did I get that right?
	You got it. Alright, alright, cool.
	How you guys doing? Wonderful.
	So, let's just dive right into it.
	Jeff, if you don't mind quickly introducing yourself, what you're doing and what capacity you work with Scott.
	Sure. So I am the host of a show called The Patriot Review, which is on frankspeech.com and redamericamedia.com and all your typical stream sites, streaming sites.
	And back in 2022, I had Scott on that show to talk about what happened to his family and his daughter, Grace.
	And since then, I've attended some of the rallies that he has had and And Scott asked me to actually help him and work on this documentary telling the story.
	And since the time we originally began it, the project has really ballooned and it's become, I think, much larger than what we both first anticipated.
	So we're excited about it.
	Is it okay, Scott, before I have you speak a little bit about yourself, is it okay if I just play the preview of the documentary that just Jeff has been working on about your daughter?
	♪♪ After we watched our daughter Grace die on FaceTime, I immediately felt that I needed to go to the hospital, even though I was still pretty sick.
	And I met Jessica and our pastor there, and while we were in the room, It was just a horrific sight to come upon.
	Her daughter Grace was now gone.
	The emotions that came over the top of our minds and our physical bodies were just unbelief.
	We took her BiPAP off because it was still on.
	This was hope and prayers.
	Somehow she wasn't really gone, and as soon as we did that, the color of grace changed.
	And we had to accept that she was truly gone.
	Not one person stepped foot in that room.
	How can you do that?
	How can you allow an innocent person, a child, she's only 19 years old, die in front of your eyes?
	You don't do that. If you're human, you don't do that.
	They knew they weren't going to convince us to put Grace on a ventilator.
	That means the money was going to dry up.
	They had to have the money.
	And when you follow the money trail all the way through, you see that a ventilator is about a $300,000 decision.
	That they had higher paying patients in the emergency room.
	Graces were more dead than alive.
	Wow, that's incredibly powerful and I mean, if I could have a word before you talk, Scott, about this documentary.
	I mean, it seems as though having done, you know, we're up to 88 episodes of this podcast, Blood Money, And we consistently expose stories about conspiracies, controversies, and corruption.
	And it seems as though all of our industrial complexes in the United States, not just the medical industrial complex, but all of our industrial complexes are really geared towards the destruction of people Over a financial amount.
	Now, in this preview, we talked about the ventilators, how this child was worth more to the system dead than alive because of the $300,000 incentive.
	Then you look at organizations like CPS, our family law industry, where literal Price amounts are put on the destruction of children, that this institutionalized destruction of children actually makes these court systems a lot of money.
	And I just see essentially an entire variety of industrial complexes that are geared towards our destruction.
	And I just wanted to make that point because watching a very powerful preview about what happened to Grace, I'm sad to say, but it's happening across our industrial complexes on an industrial level now.
	So anyway, excuse that rant, but I just felt like I had to make that point.
	Scott, you know, tell us, introduce yourself.
	Tell us a little bit about what happened to you and your family.
	I'm having a hard time hearing you.
	I wonder if I should go out and come back in.
	You're frozen right now.
	Oh, I am? Okay, okay.
	Jeff, are you experiencing the same issue?
	Both of you guys are good.
	All of a sudden, you just opened up again.
	Okay. So I did hear what you said about the medical industrial complex.
	I mean, no doubt that that's true.
	And it's way bigger, of course, as you noted, other than it's infiltrated all of our society.
	We've been programmed to believe things that are complete lies.
	And, you know, it starts with the American dream that we're free.
	Well, we're not free at all.
	I didn't know any of this until Grace died.
	I've become awake. Jeff met me as I was waking up.
	I don't know that anybody can be totally awake.
	He's right on. This project got substantially bigger.
	It's because Grace's story has got so big.
	I've been on about 500 interviews now.
	We filed a lawsuit on April 11th, the first of its kind.
	The story has gotten so big.
	The documentary expanded because of all the different people that I've met Through this process of sharing the story.
	I'm humbled to be used like this.
	I can hardly believe it's happening in our country.
	People who are not awake have a hard time believing what we have to say.
	You know, for the last three years, I know that our group has been going to great extent to let people know what's been going on, especially since this COVID jab started.
	And that seems to have been You know, part of this depopulation agenda from, you know, after having spoken to 20-something frontline doctors, they all say the same thing, that this jab is destructive and people's eyes are starting to open.
	And what we're noticing is that now that people on a wholesale level are feeling sick, they're going through their nine to fives, not feeling themselves, having noticeable damage to their health, people are starting to open their eyes and they're becoming curious about this.
	And it seems as though You, through your experiences with what happened to Grace, went through this eye-opening experience as well.
	I mean, what did it feel like to realize that in our country, people are actually incentivized to cause damage to the population for financial gain?
	A lot of the points took me a couple of weeks just to percolate through my head.
	And now that I am on the other side of it, what it feels like is interestingly different because what I see now that I am doing this full-time is that most of the people who are in this movement, I don't think they believe how bad it really is.
	They seem to be...
	Certainly on the medical freedom side of the scale, but this is terrible.
	I'm in the hospital murder lane, to be blunt.
	That lane has not been exposed yet.
	This film exposes that lane.
	Hardly anybody knows that this is even happening.
	This has been happening for decades.
	That's what I've uncovered.
	This has nothing to do with COVID. This agenda has been around for a long, long time.
	And as Jeff is very well aware, I mean, I got codified with Obamacare on March 23rd of 2010.
	You know, nobody reads Obamacare, but I challenge anybody listening to pull it up.
	Google Obamacare or brave it, whatever you want.
	It's 974 pages long.
	Read section 1553, which is page 141.
	Read it. It will change your life because all of a sudden you'll see that we were the first.
	We're always the first. Our country is always the first with evil.
	And then we point our finger to everybody else.
	We project sin like no other country in the world.
	We are those naughty Canadians with their medical assistance in dying program.
	We had medical assistance in dying way before the Canadians.
	We invented it. And we codified it in Obamacare.
	And it's right there for the review.
	When you read that page, it changes your whole view because you realize they put it in writing and are implementing it and have been implementing it for decades.
	My daughter was taken out because of that agenda, not because of COVID. Right.
	And if I could just step in just a second here, the whole euthanasia movement, that was a big thing in the 1920s and 30s.
	It was huge. There were a lot of famous people.
	And I have a clip of Bernard Shaw or...
	George Bernard Shaw, who was a playwright, right?
	And he's talking about how if people are useless, they should be terminated.
	They don't need to exist if they're not contributing.
	Who determines that?
	That's the problem. Do you remember the meetings that they had publicly about Obamacare?
	And the Republicans around the table were saying they're going to have death committees, right?
	They're going to have... These boards that decide who lives and dies based on their value.
	And of course, everybody shunned those folks and laughed at them.
	But here we are today in the exact situation that they were warning about.
	Wow, wow. Now, you said, Scott, you said that this has been going on for years.
	I mean, it's definitely become very apparent with the killing fields, the hospital killing fields of COVID-19, how remdesivir, all the different systems that ultimately resulted in death for so many.
	I mean, it's become very clear.
	But what do you mean when you say it's been going on for decades?
	Could you please elaborate?
	As to what's been going on for decades in regards to the hospital killing fields.
	So if you just process this just in terms of Obamacare.
	So that's decades just with Obamacare.
	So we'll start with that and then we can go backwards.
	So Obamacare was put into law March 23rd of 2010.
	The impetus behind Obamacare was euthanasia.
	In fact, The chief architect of Obamacare was Ezekiel Emanuel.
	In 1996, he said, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed.
	So that is all of us some...
	We'll be non-participating citizens.
	And when that day arrives, whatever for us to decide, because there's people smarter than us that get to decide that.
	Of course, I'm saying that tongue in cheek.
	Then once we become non-participating citizens, we don't deserve health care.
	So you start with that.
	So that man is the key architect of Obamacare.
	So it's no surprising that page 141, section 1553 documents the euthanasia, mercy killing, and assisted suicide.
	It's right in the document. It says that is how they're going to kill us.
	So it's no surprise that that's in there.
	Okay, so then let's go back further.
	How can you convince a doctor to...
	Commit euthanasia or assisted suicide or mercy killing.
	How does that even work?
	How could you convince a man to implement something to kill another man?
	That doesn't make any sense.
	But they do it under the spirit of collectivism.
	So collectivism means the good of the mass versus individualism, the good of the individual.
	And they lied to us by implementing the Hippocratic Oath.
	Many, many decades ago to get us to believe in a document.
	These doctors have to sign the Hippocratic Oath.
	A doctor wrote me just last week.
	He said, Scott, I want to remind you, we never have had to sign the Hippocratic Oath.
	The Hippocratic Oath was put in place to get the population to believe we're following individualism when in fact we're following collectivism.
	So then what they do is they do training documents so that these guys' consciences get seared.
	And an example of a training document we found, my daughter Grace had Down syndrome.
	So, of course, you know, my research started with Down syndrome.
	One of the training documents we found with Down syndrome, and this spirit of collectivism has been going on way before Obamacare.
	And the excuse they use, Val, is that it's...
	It's financially impossible to maintain the system of Medicare and Medicaid.
	That's the excuse they use.
	Well, just think about how foolish that is.
	That's another lie because we don't...
	So when did that lie start?
	Well, that started back when we started the fiat currency.
	So we don't have any balancing of budget even necessary anymore.
	So why do they even bring that up?
	Because people can't grasp the concept of a fiat currency.
	All right, so back to the training document I mentioned, and then I'll slow down.
	You got me pretty wound up with that question.
	So this training document is from the Palliative Care Network of Wisconsin.
	Jeff and I are from Wisconsin.
	Grace is from Wisconsin.
	So just put your state in here.
	This is written by two MDs.
	This is to train doctors and nurses about how to handle patients with Down syndrome.
	It's called palliative care for patients with Down syndrome.
	They don't say anything positive.
	They introduce Down syndrome as problem after problem after problem.
	So that first title is causes of morbidity and death and Down syndrome.
	So they list about 40 problems Down syndrome People can have sleep apnea, dental issues, cardiac septal defects, thyroid dysfunction, blah, blah, blah.
	So why do they list all those problems?
	Well, the reason they list those problems is they are setting up the doctor to use the excuse of collectivism to take this group of the population out.
	So their transition statement says this, the lifelong toll on families is high.
	So when you read that litany, if you don't know anything about people with Down syndrome, you think, oh my gosh, why would any family want somebody that has Down syndrome?
	These are just problems, right?
	So the lifelong toll on families is high.
	The lifelong toll on our family of having Grace was fantastic.
	She made us a better family.
	She made me a better dad.
	She just loved the way God intended.
	So then they say part of a robust plan of care includes acknowledgement of this toll by healthcare workers.
	So the healthcare workers are supposed to acknowledge that these families Don't want the Down syndrome child.
	All right? So now they set the stage for the kill.
	I mean, this is right in the published document.
	It says, whenever possible, decision makers, that's the doctors, for people with Down syndrome should be encouraged to use substituted judgment, their judgment, to make key palliative care decisions.
	All efforts should be made to determine the preferences of the patient.
	However, because of lifelong cognitive impairment, the views of the person with Down syndrome may not be known.
	Just process that insanity.
	I know the view of every single person with Down syndrome on the entire planet.
	They want to live just like I want to live, just like you want to live them, and just like Jeff wants to live.
	Why does a Down syndrome...
	They talk nothing about the child's capacity to love, being a loving creature, nothing emotional.
	It's all detachment. And one thing I noticed, I mean, frankly, this is straight, like, Third Reich, Fourth Reich, whatever Nazi ideology.
	I mean, straight out of, like...
	Straight out of, like, literal, like, Hitler's teachings in Mein Kampf, getting rid of people that don't fit a certain level of perfection of the elite.
	So, Nazism, that's where we are with...
	That's because, so now you take it all the way back, then.
	That's because Hitler adopted our thinking.
	We invented this crap.
	We invented eugenics in the United States.
	Hitler adopted from us.
	And then we pulled the...
	The chief architect still working for Hitler through Operation Paperclip back in the United States.
	So that's why I can say this has been going on for decades.
	And when it's convenient to play on people's emotions and say, oh, look how bad Hitler is.
	He was killing people that were not in vision of his perfection, the Aryan perfect image in his eyes.
	I mean... They made him out to be a bad guy because of that.
	But our system is essentially using the same techniques.
	And as you're saying, we invented this stuff.
	Hitler was a hero. I mean, he was...
	Charles Lindbergh loved Hitler.
	He went to Germany to visit him before all the deaths started happening.
	And this film, I'm glad you brought him up because there's a lot of films that are out there right now that deal with a piece of this overall problem.
	This Breaking the Oath is the only film that I'm aware of That brings us all together in a worldview.
	And we make direct parallels.
	We have Vera Sharab, who's a Holocaust survivor, is one of the guests on this program, this movie.
	And she makes direct parallels, seeing what's happening in America today and what was happening back when she was a little girl in Nazi Germany.
	And really, when you start comparing them, It's literally shocking because it wakes you up just in thinking about that and going down that path.
	So that's one of the things that the documentary, I mean, the guy that's behind me on the screen, he is more...
	dangerous and a more evil person than Dr. Mengele was, who was famous for his experiments on twins and children. By the way, do you mind if I pause you right there?
	Because, you know, people are gonna listen to that statement some people and they're gonna say, oh, you know, right-wing conspiracy theorists and all that stuff.
	But the numbers alone, I mean, when you look at, you know, how many people were murdered in World War II, right?
	If you look at the gypsies and the Nazis and...
	About 12 million, just on the German side.
	So what we're looking at right now, according to a lot of these frontline doctors, is potentially up to a billion deaths in the next 24 months.
	Keep in mind that Mengele, I mean, he had a very limited number of kids that he killed.
	And yes, he sent people to the gas chamber.
	But this guy that's behind me, Mengele looked people in the eye and did it.
	This guy doesn't care.
	Right now, there's 7 million deaths around the world in COVID and only going up.
	So what's the difference between those two?
	This guy, in my opinion, that's behind me is much worse.
	Yeah, yeah. He's protected by the system.
	He's protected by the system.
	I mean, he is roaming around free, and not get too political, but today, you know, we just heard that a certain former president was, you know, based upon no evidence, is now found guilty for defaming somebody that he claims lied and said that like...
	You know, he raped her.
	I mean, I don't want to bring that up because he's such a polarizing figure, but it just shows that in every industrial complex, including our legal fields, all the standards have disappeared.
	There's no standards in law.
	There's no standards in medicine, you know?
	Oaths are broken.
	I mean, just like the doctors are breaking their oats, the lawyers are breaking their oats.
	I mean, how far have we come as a country?
	And is there a way to repair this?
	Is there a way to make a U-turn?
	Who are you asking? Whoever wants to take the question.
	Go ahead, Scott. Well, I absolutely think there's a way to make a U-turn.
	God wrote it out in the Bible at the beginning.
	It's called repentance.
	And any other... Method, other than repentance first, will not accomplish the goal.
	Period. End of story.
	There's a lot of people promoting solutions right now, but they're man-made solutions.
	We got into this trouble because we rejected God and put man in place of God.
	So you can't have man-made solutions fix man-made problems.
	This is a God-sized problem, and the only way out of it is repentance.
	Otherwise, it's over. God has done this before, and He's going to do it again.
	When you say it's over, are we talking about something catastrophic that we've seen over and over again in the Bible, the wrath of God, so to speak?
	Or are you talking about it's over, like our country's over, there's no future here?
	I think the wrath of God is at the doorstep if we don't repent.
	That's where I see it. I think we are clearly in the days of Noah.
	We have evil being called good.
	We have good being called evil.
	In the days of Noah, the Nephilim had infiltrated the So God had to eliminate the entire population other than Noah and his family in order to keep the seed pure so that Jesus could come.
	And so what is the goal of these elites?
	I mean, they have the sustainability agenda.
	Of course, we've got to manage the population.
	We've got to manage the planet.
	You know, that seems, you know, they're a wolf in sheep's clothing, of course, with that.
	But their real agenda is transhumanism.
	So transhumanism is really the same thing.
	We're not going to have any pure human seed.
	I make a point in the video and part of it that talks about the arrogance of...
	general, but of Americans in particular, when we look back at those genocides that have occurred in the past, whether it's Mao in China or Lenin Stalin or, you know, Hitler as we were discussing, we look back and we say, well, how did the people ever allow that to happen, right? And to me, that is the only thing that I need to add on to Scott's point about can we turn it around.
	Well, we got to stop tolerating stuff.
	Stop tolerating, you know, at your local level, stop tolerating this crap that they're trying to shove down your throats.
	And you don't have to be violent.
	You know, you just pick up a document like the one I was talking to you about, and you get educated on it, and you push back on it.
	I'm gonna put on this document, by the way.
	You're speaking about the grand jury evidence?
	Yeah, right. Yeah, I'm just gonna flash this on screen.
	Could you talk a little bit about what this image is representing?
	So this is a document that originally I got from David Sorensen's StopTheWorld.com.
	It's an excellent website. This is a document that I think would be very beneficial for any viewer who's going to watch Breaking the Oath or anybody who just is shaking their head no and being skeptical about what we're talking about.
	This document shows you the history and it provides the proof that you need to really come to an understanding that what we're talking about is really happening.
	This document is the equivalent to Mein Kampf was.
	If only the Germans would have taken that seriously when he said he was going to kill all the Jews.
	This document shows that this whole situation that we find ourselves in today is deliberate, it's planned, and it's being executed.
	And the whole COVID thing, the vaccine, all that, they're just spiderweb strands and overall web that includes all kinds of other things, like the environmentalism and how crushing what they want to do to our societies in the name of environmental fascism, basically. So that document has 120 individual links that source everything that's said in there.
	And it's just indisputable.
	It's evidence. And you can go to the website, America First Productions, and go to Breaking the Oath.
	And you'll see under Breaking the Oath, you'll see evidence and you can download that document.
	Yep, yep. And we've done quite a few Blood Money episodes.
	For anybody out there that has even a smidgen of doubt, you should watch some of these doctors talk about what has happened to our population because it is without a doubt population controlled.
	It's Holocaust, genocide.
	Frankly, the worst genocide or Holocaust in the history of humankind.
	There's never been numbers of this kind.
	I mean, we're talking about 7 million, but when you talk about all these people dying because of the jab, This is the biggest threat that mankind has ever had.
	This is global genocide.
	This isn't genocide in Nazi Germany.
	This isn't genocide in the Soviet Union.
	This is global genocide and it's being done And they'll tell you right in the documents of World Economic Forum, they say they want to get the population down to 500 million or less.
	It's also in the Guidestones in Georgia, if you've ever heard of the Guidestones.
	That's number one on their list, is maintain a population of 500 million people.
	Seven and a half billion of us.
	Yeah. Seven and a half billion people.
	Wow. You know, Jeff, this hasn't been an easy process for you because while you've been making this documentary, I mean, you've had health issues.
	Can you tell us a little bit about the process of making this documentary and some of the challenges that you're dealing with just on a personal level to see it through?
	Well, you know, originally I was in corporate America, as I was talking to you before the show here.
	And in 2019, I got diagnosed with a disease called interstitial cystitis.
	It's a disease that, you know, 99% of the people that have it are female.
	So I'm the lucky 1% male who...
	All the treatments are not made for.
	And it's kind of like having a severe bladder infection all the time.
	So pain is a constant everyday thing for me.
	And that said, I still view that as a blessing because that was given to me by God so that I could do this.
	And that's the truth of it.
	This slowed me down.
	This really put me in a place where I got to decide what's important to me.
	And going through your midlife crisis like I was at 54 or 55, you're thinking, what's my legacy?
	Well, the legacy is freedom.
	And that's what everybody's legacy should be.
	Not only in America, but we've got to go back to the individual, as Scott was talking about, the individual liberty.
	And they're trying to take that away from everybody right now.
	It's your children.
	They're taking your children away.
	Going on the gender transformation behind your back and all this stuff that's going on.
	So really, it's been a privilege.
	It's been an honor for me to not only do this documentary, but to do my show.
	I've met so many wonderful people.
	And my advice would be, no matter what your challenges are, Decide what you're good at.
	Decide what you can contribute and do it.
	We gotta have this legacy of freedom.
	That's what we have to do.
	I mean, what makes you compelled to become part of this movement?
	Is it just your fight of freedom?
	I mean, what is it about this that makes this the most crucial fight?
	Well, I fully believe in the idea of America.
	And if you have children, you know, when you put your head on your pillow at night, the last thing that you want to think of is, my kids are going to be enslaved.
	And they're going to have terrible, miserable lives because some elitist Nazi...
	Nazi, exactly.
	Thinks that they know better.
	So that's my motivation.
	I just really believe that people should be free.
	They should be able to pursue their dreams.
	They should pursue happiness, right?
	The pursuit of happiness. It's just our government needs to get the hell out of the way and let people pursue their happiness.
	Yeah, Scott, so who are you before all this happened and how would you describe yourself now?
	Well, I was a business owner that worked way too many hours.
	I was motivated to have the business survive my death so that it would take care of my daughter, Grace, and my wife, Cindy, after I was gone.
	So I've been a business owner for over 30 years.
	Thank God I developed heart disease about six years ago.
	I was diagnosed with that.
	It took a long time to get it to that point.
	Then, six years ago, I started training my guys to run the business.
	Now, the transition was fairly easy.
	I am doing this full-time.
	I've become a full-time advocate researcher.
	God knew that it was going to be Put a fire in my belly to do this.
	And he set this up six years prior so that my guys can run the business and the business can take care of this project that we're working on.
	You know, this project is this whole thing.
	We have 18 billboards up.
	We filed a lawsuit.
	You know, all of that takes a fair amount of cash flow to be able to Do all that, but you know, that's what I do now.
	So before I would have said, I would, I described myself as a businessman who had a healthy, I was a conservative with a healthy distrust for the government.
	Now I would say that I'm an advocate and I completely think our government is totally corrupt.
	Both parties, I think they're all in on it.
	And I think that, um, The only way out of this is for people to wake up.
	Think through how easy, like Jeff said, if people just stood.
	So when they demanded masks, if everybody said, screw it, we're not wearing masks, it would have been over.
	No, they didn't.
	And then when people were told that you had to get the jab to keep their job, say, no, we're not doing that.
	That would have been over. You have to wear a mask to get on an airplane.
	No, we're not doing that. I mean, it would have shut the airlines down.
	So then they would have had to retreat from these crazy draconian positions.
	But they saw how easy it was to take, you know, the masses by far.
	I mean, the masses agreed with all this.
	You know, this crazy shot.
	Think through that.
	Right now, anybody can read the Brooke Jackson filing.
	Brooke Jackson filed the False Claims Act against Pfizer.
	Read it. It says it was never a vaccine.
	But then our government, so you read that document, then you see they're still promoting You know, whatever, the 18th jab.
	You have Chelsea Clinton, as of two days ago, going out there and saying that every child, every baby should be vaccinated when they know this kills children.
	I mean, how can you look at them and say you're not a pile of evil crap when she has access to this information, but she is essentially promoting the manslaughter of the murder of children?
	At least that's the way I look at it.
	Well, they're in the practice of using fear, which is, again, one of the key tools that has been used throughout history.
	And that's, to Scott's point, that's how they got people to take the jab.
	It's how they got people to wear the mask.
	Nobody, my background in corporate America was safety and environmental compliance.
	So I knew it was complete nonsense that you put a cotton weave mask that's 80 micron holes in it, or a 60 micron, you know, virus.
	Right, it's so stupid.
	Yeah, yeah. I used to tell people, hey, next time you have to go to the bathroom and sit on the throne, put a mask on, see if you can still smell it.
	It's funny because that was a big joke.
	Like a guy I knew went around farting around people and being like, could you smell that?
	Well, your mask doesn't work because my fart particles are a lot smaller than the COVID particles.
	Exactly. Exactly.
	Yeah. Yeah. You know, Scott, like if I told you 10 years ago that our government would be conspiring to murder 95% of us, what would you have told me?
	Yeah, that's a fantastic question.
	I was literally thinking about that this morning.
	What if somebody told me this 10 years ago?
	I would not have believed them.
	However, and this is why a research component of my advocacy is a big deal, because I'm analytical, and if they would have shown me documents, they would have convinced me.
	They wouldn't have convinced me with their testimony, because Unless I trusted them, then they could have convinced me with their testimony.
	But show me the documents.
	Show me the evidence. And that's why I like to show evidence whenever I'm talking, because that's the tool that convinces me.
	And when you see something like that, the Brooke Jackson documents, Section 1553 of Obamacare, the palliative care training for Down Syndrome kids, you see these things in writing, and it's like, I mean...
	It's there. And it's plain to read.
	You don't have to even interpret.
	Yeah. Unbelievable stuff.
	Unbelievable stuff. I mean, I just think to myself, you know, when you talk about these agendas and, you know, eugenics and all that, you know, something like 60 million black kids have been aborted.
	Not jumping to the, you know, topic of abortion, but it's similar because they're talking about similar depopulation agendas.
	And you wonder, you know, how many Martin Luther Kings were in there, you know?
	How many wonderful, intelligent people?
	It's like these outliers that you least expect that rise up to the challenge and become leaders and great people, right?
	And how many of those did we lose because of this wholesale corruption?
	Because essentially, this agenda to murder massive portions of the population.
	Jeff, what are your hopes for the documentary?
	I mean, what happens next?
	I think you were saying that on May 22nd, you have your premiere.
	May 21st, we have a private event theater premiere.
	May 22nd is the public release.
	May 22nd is also the release of a director's edition version that has more footage and back behind the scenes stuff.
	My hope for this is that it's impactful and that it convinces people to do their own studying and that they listen to what Scott just said and look at that evidence and decide for themselves That they need to stop worrying about, you know, the small things in life as people say, the first world problems, because we have a lot bigger problems right now.
	And everybody needs to step up and do their part in it.
	The last thing I'll say about the documentary is that there are 43 other families.
	That their loved one died in a similar manner to how Grace died.
	And my opinion of that is that they were murdered.
	And when you go through the film and you watch the film and at the end...
	You brought a great point with how many Martin Luther Kings were there.
	Every one of those individuals has a story.
	Every one of those individuals has a story.
	And their families and their friends, just the heartbreak that has gone around the world because of these people, it should infuriate every decent person on the planet.
	Yeah, yeah. The enemy is within.
	I mean, enough talking about Hitlers and Stalins when the Hitlers and Stalins are here today right now in action and never again is complete BS because look how easy it is.
	I mean, think about it this way.
	It's like this was a virus that doesn't even do that much damage.
	What happens when something truly damaging comes?
	In a way, a lot of people, you know, assume that this was just a testing ground.
	Let's see how this kind of relatively benign virus, and I'm talking in regards to COVID-19, let's see what that does to the people.
	And then what happens when something that actually kills 5% of the population comes out?
	I mean, it's really scary stuff how easy it is to have people give up their freedoms.
	You know, we saw it with the Patriot Act.
	We're seeing it right now. Is there anything in closing, Scott and Jeff, that we didn't talk about that you'd want to mention or discuss?
	I wouldn't mind just framing the film as far as how I see it.
	This film exposes one tentacle Of the antichrist beast system.
	So we're in the antichrist beast system.
	I mean, that's what we're in. That means that Satan is the prince of this world, which we know.
	And, you know, his minions have convinced us to rely on pharmaceuticals and the white coats instead of God to heal our bodies.
	Remember, I'm in the hospital murder lane.
	And so that's why I'm talking about this.
	And they even invented, like I said earlier, the Hippocratic Oath to further entrench the lie.
	And now the trap has been set.
	I see that COVID was a diversion for the bigger trap, you know, the bigger evil trap.
	Is there something else coming?
	Well, the book of Revelation says a second beast system is coming that replaces the first beast system.
	And that's the false prophet system.
	And remember, this is a battle for souls.
	So Satan doesn't care if he looks evil on one side or if he looks good as an angel of light on the other side.
	And every chance I get, I want to frame what we're doing in that light.
	So we're definitely exposing evil with this film.
	But if we only expose evil, we miss the mark.
	Because we also have to share what God's plan is.
	And God has a plan to Rectify evil through repentance and through His Son, Jesus Christ.
	And that always has to be said.
	Otherwise, we're just contributing to the next level if all we're doing is exposing evil.
	We're shining God's light on evil is what we're doing.
	Exactly, exactly.
	And evil has a lot harder time surviving in the light than it does in the darkness.
	Jeff, any last words?
	Yeah, and just in closing, I would say, you know, people can, on the 21st or 22nd, they can go to americafirstproductions.com.
	They can see the documentary there for free.
	The release will also be on the Patriot Review sites, so all the social media, the rumbles and all those.
	Would like to say, too, that there is a positive story in this as well, and that is, you know, what you can do for your families.
	And there's an example in there in the documentary.
	I won't give it away, but if you want to know how to fight back, that's part of the documentary as well.
	It's not all just... You know, so that part of it, as Scott mentioned, that's an important piece of it, and we need to remember that.
	There's good things. The last thing I'll say is I have this saying that I share with my viewers, and that is, remember the ripple.
	And what I mean by that is, for all of you out there who just don't think that you can contribute to fighting this evil, You generally don't know the positive effects that your actions have.
	Just keep that in mind. Even if you do something really small it's still positive, it still makes a difference.
	Like a butterfly effect.
	I mean, you might tell somebody something, that person tells somebody else, and you save a life without even knowing it, because you don't know what happened to that truth, that word that you put out.
	You know, gentlemen, amazing work.
	Jeff, is there a way for people to donate to you, by the way?
	Because you're obviously doing this stuff for free.
	I mean, you're giving out the documentary for free.
	Is there a way for people to help you out?
	People can purchase the Director's Edition.
	If they use America First, America No.
	1 ST, they get $10 off.
	So check that out.
	And I have a donate button on both RedBloodedPatriots.com, which is my Patriot Review Show website, and then America First Productions, which is on the bottom of the screen there.
	I'd appreciate anything anyone can give, and if anybody has ideas for following up and really exposing more of this stuff, I'm always open to helping people out as well.
	Jeff, didn't you also tell me that if anybody wants to contribute more than $500,000, they're supposed to do that by wire transfer?
	Yeah, right.
	I don't recall feeling that big, Scott, but I need to do that.
	Well, I mean, for the viewers, you know, this is the way we're going to get out of this mess, right?
	I mean, we saw how networks that are run due to pharmaceutical finances with these corrupted industrial complexes, I mean, they will tell you lies that literally result in the death and destruction of your family.
	And I know what happened to Scott wasn't necessarily because of these COVID jabs, but Like he was saying, this has been going on for decades.
	We just found out about it because it happened on such an industrial level to the mass population of this world, right?
	And so the way we beat this corruption is by supporting people like Jeff, and frankly, you know, supporting people like America happens, what we do over here with the Blood Money podcast, because that's the way the truth is going to come out.
	And so kindly, you know, if you could afford it, please consider donating to Jeff.
	Please consider supporting this very worthy cause.
	And I thank you, gentlemen, for showing up to this Blood Money podcast.
	Thank you so much. And thank you so much, Scott, for coming out and telling your story.
	About what happened to your beautiful daughter.
	The viewers out there, thank you so much for showing up to the Blood Money podcast.
	Please join us for the next episode and please also check out our platform AmericaHappens.com where we have all of our shows posted, including Blood Money, including Conspiracy Truths by Mindy Robinson, Gianna Michele, State National University, Joey Gilbert's Gloves Off.
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	Money Episode 92 with Scott Shara and Jeff Wagner.
	My daughter was killed by the hospital Killing Fields and we made a movie about this evil conspiracy to kill our children.
	Alright, so we're on the latest episode of Blood Money with two very special guests.
	Jeff Wagner and Scott Shara.
	Did I get that right?
	You got it. Alright, cool.
	How you guys doing? Wonderful.
	Awesome. So let's just dive right into it.
	Jeff, if you don't mind quickly introducing yourself, what you're doing and what capacity you work with Scott.
	Sure. So I am the host of a show called The Patriot Review, which is on frankspeech.com and redamericamedia.com and all your typical stream sites, streaming sites.
	And back in 2022, I had Scott on that show.
	To talk about what happened to his family and his daughter, Grace.
	And since then, I've attended some of the rallies that he has had.
	And Scott asked me to actually help him and work on this documentary, telling the story.
	And since the time we originally began it, the project has really ballooned.
	And it's become, I think, much larger than what we both first anticipated.
	So we're excited about it.
	Is it okay, Scott, before I have you speak a little bit about yourself, is it okay if I just play the preview of the documentary that just Jeff has been working on about your daughter?
	♪ After we watched our daughter, Grace, die on FaceTime, I immediately felt that I needed to go to the hospital, though I was still pretty sick.
	you And I met Jessica and our pastor there.
	While we were in the room, Jessica and I just spent a few moments with Grace alone.
	It was just a horrific sight to come upon.
	It was like our daughter Grace was now gone.
	The emotions that came over the top of our minds and our physical bodies were just unbelievable.
	We took her BiPAP off because it was still on.
	We spent hope and prayers that somehow she wasn't really gone.
	As soon as we did that, the color of grace changed.
	We had to accept that she was truly gone.
	Not one person stepped foot in that room.
	How can you do that?
	How can you allow an innocent person, a child, she's only 19 years old, die in front of your eyes?
	You don't do that.
	If you're human, you don't do that.
	They knew they weren't going to convince us to put Grace on a ventilator.
	That means the money was going to dry out.
	They had to have the money.
	And when you follow the money trail all the way through, you see that a ventilator is about a $300,000 decision.
	That they had higher paying patients in the emergency room.
	Graces were more dead than alive.
	And I'm not alone.
	I'm not alone.
	That's incredibly powerful.
	I mean, if I could have a word before you talk, Scott, about this documentary.
	I mean, it seems as though having done, you know, we're up to 88 episodes of this podcast, Blood Money, And we consistently expose stories about conspiracies, controversies, and corruption.
	And it seems as though all of our industrial complexes in the United States, not just the medical industrial complex, but all of our industrial complexes are really geared towards the destruction of people.
	Over a financial amount.
	Now, in this preview, we talked about the ventilators, how this child was worth more to the system dead than alive because of the $300,000 incentive.
	Then you look at organizations like CPS, our family law industry, where literal Price amounts are put on the destruction of children, that this institutionalized destruction of children actually makes these court systems a lot of money.
	And I just see essentially an entire variety of industrial complexes that are geared towards our destruction.
	And I just wanted to make that point because watching a very powerful preview about what happened to Grace, I'm sad to say, but it's happening across our industrial complexes on an industrial level now.
	So anyway, excuse that rant, but I just felt like I had to make that point.
	Scott, you know, tell us, introduce yourself.
	Tell us a little bit about what happened here and your family.
	I'm having a hard time hearing you.
	I wonder if I should go out and come back in.
	You're frozen right now.
	Oh, I am? Okay, okay.
	Jeff, are you experiencing the same issue?
	Oh, both you guys are good.
	All of a sudden, you just opened up again.
	Okay. So, I did hear what you said about the medical industrial complex.
	I mean, no doubt that that's true.
	And it's way bigger, of course, as you noted, other than it's infiltrated all of our society.
	We've been programmed to believe things that are complete lies.
	And it starts with the American dream that we're free.
	Well, we're not free at all.
	And I didn't know any of this until Grace died.
	I've become awake. And Jeff met me as I was waking up.
	And I don't know that anybody can be totally awake.
	And he's right on. This project got substantially bigger.
	And it's because Grace's story has got so big.
	I've been on about 500 interviews now.
	We filed a lawsuit on April 11th, the first of its kind.
	And so the story has gotten so big and the documentary expanded because of all the different people that I've met through this process of sharing the story.
	I'm humbled to be used like this.
	I can hardly believe it's happening in our country.
	People who are not awake have a hard time believing what we have to say.
	You know, for the last three years, I know that our group has been going to great extents to let people know what's been going on, especially since this COVID jab started.
	And that seems to have been You know, part of this depopulation agenda from, you know, after having spoken to 20 something frontline doctors, they all say the same thing that this job is destructive and people's eyes are starting to open.
	And what we're noticing is that now that people on a wholesale level are feeling sick, they're going through their nine to fives, not feeling themselves, having noticeable damage to their health, people are starting to open their eyes and they're becoming curious about this.
	And it seems as though You, through your experiences with what happened to Grace, went through this eye-opening experience as well.
	I mean, what did it feel like to realize that in our country, people are actually incentivized to cause damage to the population for financial gain?
	A lot of the points took me a couple of weeks just to percolate through my head.
	And now that I am on the other side of it, what it feels like is interestingly different because what I see now that I am doing this full-time is that most of the people who are in this movement, I don't think they believe how bad it really is.
	You know, they seem to be...
	Certainly on the medical freedom side of the scale, but this is terrible.
	I'm in the hospital murder lane, to be blunt.
	That lane has not been exposed yet.
	This film exposes that lane.
	Hardly anybody knows that this is even happening.
	This has been happening for decades.
	That's what I've uncovered.
	This has nothing to do with COVID. This agenda has been around for a long, long time.
	And as Jeff is very well aware, I mean, it got codified with Obamacare on March 23rd of 2010.
	You know, nobody reads Obamacare, but I challenge anybody listening to pull it up.
	Google Obamacare or brave it, whatever you want.
	It's 974 pages long.
	Read section 1553, which is page 141.
	Read it. It will change your life because all of a sudden you'll see that we were the first.
	We're always the first. Our country is always the first with evil.
	And then we point our finger to everybody else.
	We project sin like no other country in the world.
	We are those naughty Canadians with their medical assistance in dying program.
	We had medical assistance in dying way before the Canadians.
	We invented it. And we codified it in Obamacare.
	And it's right there for the review.
	When you read that page, it changes your whole view because you realize they put it in writing and are implementing it and have been implementing it for decades.
	My daughter was taken out because of that agenda, not because of COVID. Right?
	Wow. And if I could just step in just a second here, the whole euthanasia movement, that was a big thing in the 1920s and 30s.
	It was huge. There were a lot of famous people.
	And I have a clip of Bernard Shaw or...
	George Bernard Shaw, who was a playwright, right?
	And he's talking about how if people are useless, they should be terminated.
	They don't need to exist if they're not contributing.
	Who determines that?
	That's the problem. Do you remember the meetings that they had publicly about Obamacare?
	And the Republicans around the table were saying they're going to have death committees, right?
	They're going to have... These boards that decide who lives and dies based on their value.
	And of course, everybody shunned those folks and laughed at them.
	But here we are today in the exact situation that they were warning about.
	Wow, wow. Now, you said, Scott, you said that this has been going on for years.
	I mean, it's definitely become very apparent with the killing fields, the hospital killing fields of COVID-19.
	How, you know, remdesivir, all the different systems that ultimately resulted in death for so many.
	I mean, it's become very clear.
	But what do you mean when you say it's been going on for decades?
	Could you please elaborate?
	As to what's been going on for decades in regards to the hospital killing fields.
	So if you just process this just in terms of Obamacare.
	So that's decades just with Obamacare.
	So we'll start with that and then we can go backwards.
	So Obamacare was put into law March 23rd of 2010.
	The impetus behind Obamacare was euthanasia.
	In fact, The chief architect of Obamacare was Ezekiel Emanuel.
	In 1996, he said, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed.
	So that is all of us someday.
	We'll be non-participating citizens.
	And when that day arrives, whatever for us to decide, because there's people smarter than us that get to decide that.
	Of course, I'm saying that tongue-in-cheek.
	Then, once we become non-participating citizens, we don't deserve healthcare.
	Okay? So, you start with that.
	So, that man is the key architect of Obamacare.
	So, it's no surprising that page 141, section 1553 documents The euthanasia, mercy killing, and assisted suicide.
	It's right in the document.
	It says that is how they're going to kill us.
	So it's no surprise that that's in there.
	Okay, so then let's go back further.
	How can you convince a doctor to Commit euthanasia or assisted suicide or mercy killing.
	How does that even work?
	How could you convince a man to implement something to kill another man?
	That doesn't make any sense.
	But they do it under the spirit of collectivism.
	So collectivism means the good of the mass versus individualism, the good of the individual.
	And they lied to us by implementing the Hippocratic Oath.
	Many, many decades ago to get us to believe in a document.
	These doctors have to sign the Hippocratic Oath.
	A doctor wrote me just last week.
	He said, Scott, I want to remind you, we never have had to sign the Hippocratic Oath.
	The Hippocratic Oath was put in place to get the population to believe we're following individualism when in fact we're following collectivism.
	So then what they do is they do training documents so that these guys' consciences get seared.
	And an example of a training document we found, my daughter Grace had Down syndrome.
	So, of course, my research started with Down syndrome.
	One of the training documents we found with Down syndrome, and this spirit of collectivism has been going on way before Obamacare.
	And the excuse they use, Val, I'm sorry, is that it's...
	Financially impossible to maintain the system of Medicare and Medicaid.
	That's the excuse they use.
	Well, just think about how foolish that is.
	That's another lie because we don't...
	So when did that lie start?
	Well, that started back when we started the fiat currency.
	So we don't have any balancing of budget even necessary anymore.
	So why do they even bring that up?
	Because people can't grasp the concept of a fiat currency.
	All right, so back to the training document I mentioned, and then I'll slow down.
	You got me pretty wound up with that question.
	So this training document is from the Palliative Care Network of Wisconsin.
	Jeff and I are from Wisconsin.
	Grace is from Wisconsin. So just put your state in here.
	This is written by two MDs.
	This is to train doctors and nurses about how to handle patients with Down syndrome.
	It's called palliative care for patients with Down syndrome.
	They don't say anything positive.
	They introduce Down syndrome as problem after problem after problem.
	So the first title is causes of morbidity and death and Down syndrome.
	So they list about 40 problems Down syndrome people can have.
	Sleep apnea, dental issues.
	Cardiac septal defects, thyroid dysfunction, blah, blah, blah.
	So why do they list all those problems?
	Well, the reason they list those problems is they are setting up the doctor to use the excuse of collectivism to take this group of the population out.
	So their transition statement says this, the lifelong toll on families is high.
	So when you read that litany, if you don't know anything about people with Down syndrome, you think, oh my gosh, Mm-hmm.
	Mm-hmm.
	Because she just loved the way God intended.
	So then they say part of a robust plan of care includes acknowledgement of this toll by healthcare workers.
	So the healthcare workers are supposed to acknowledge that these families don't want the Down syndrome child.
	All right? So now they set the stage for the kill.
	This is right in the published document.
	It says, whenever possible, decision makers, that's the doctors, for people with Down syndrome should be encouraged to use substituted judgment, their judgment, to make key palliative care decisions.
	All efforts should be made to determine the preferences of the patient.
	However, because of lifelong cognitive impairment, the views of the person with Down syndrome may not be known.
	Just process that insanity.
	I know the view of every single person with Down syndrome on the entire planet.
	They want to live just like I want to live, just like you want to live, Vem, and just like Jeff wants to live.
	Why does a Down syndrome...
	It makes no sense.
	They talk nothing about the child's capacity to love, being a loving creature, nothing emotional.
	It's all detachment.
	And one thing I noticed, I mean, frankly, this is straight, like, Third Reich, Fourth Reich, whatever Nazi ideology.
	I mean, straight out of, like, straight out of, like, literal, like, Hitler's teachings in Mein Kampf getting rid of people that don't fit a certain level of perfection of the elite.
	So Nazism, that's where we are with...
	That's because, so now you take it all the way back then.
	That's because Hitler adopted our thinking.
	We invented this crap.
	We invented eugenics in the United States.
	Hitler adopted from us.
	And then we pulled the chief architect still working for Hitler through Operation Paperclip back in the United States.
	So that's why I can say this has been going on for decades.
	And when it's convenient to play on people's emotions and say, oh, look how bad Hitler is.
	He was killing, you know, people that were not in vision of his perfection, the Aryan, you know, perfect image in his eyes.
	I mean, they made him out to be a bad guy because of that.
	But our system is essentially using the same techniques.
	And we invented this stuff.
	Hitler was a hero. Charles Lindbergh loved Hitler.
	He went to Germany to visit him before all the deaths started happening.
	And this film, I'm glad you brought him up because there's a lot of films that are out there right now that deal with a piece of this overall problem.
	This this breaking the oath is the the only film that I'm aware of That brings us all together in a worldview and we make direct parallels We have a Vera Sharab who's a as a Holocaust survivor is one of the guests on this program this movie And and she thought she makes direct parallel seeing what's happening in America today And what was happening back when she was a little girl in?
	Nazi Germany and really when when you start comparing them It's it's literally shocking because it wakes you up just in thinking about that and going down that path So that's one of the things that the documentary, I mean, the guy that's behind me on the screen, he is more...
	He's dangerous and a more evil person than Dr.
	Mengele was, who was famous for his experiments on twins and children.
	By the way, do you mind if I pause you right there?
	Because people are going to listen to that statement, some people, and they're going to say, oh, right-wing conspiracy theorists and all that stuff.
	But the numbers alone, I mean, when you look at how many people were murdered in World War II, right?
	If you look at the gypsies and the Nazis and...
	12 million. So what we're looking at right now, according to a lot of these frontline doctors, is potentially up to a billion.
	Keep in mind that Mengele, I mean, he had a very limited number of kids that he killed.
	And yes, he sent people to the gas chamber.
	But this guy that's behind me, Mengla looked people in the eye and did it.
	This guy doesn't care.
	Right now there's 7 million deaths around the world in COVID and only going up.
	So what's the difference between those two?
	This guy, in my opinion, that's behind me is much worse.
	Yeah, yeah. It's just he's protected by the system.
	He's protected by the system.
	I mean, he is roaming around free and not get too political.
	But today, you know, we just heard that a certain former president was, you know, based upon no evidence is now found guilty for defaming somebody that he claims lied.
	And I mean, said that like You know, he raped her.
	I mean, I don't want to bring that up because he's such a polarizing figure, but it just shows that in every industrial complex, including our legal fields, all the standards have disappeared.
	There's no standards in law.
	There's no standards in medicine, you know?
	Oaths are broken.
	I mean, just like the doctors are breaking their oaths, the lawyers are breaking their oaths.
	I mean, how far have we come as a country?
	And is there a way to repair this?
	Is there a way to make a U-turn?
	Who are you asking? Whoever wants to take the question.
	Go ahead, Scott. Well, I absolutely think there's a way to make a U-turn.
	God wrote it out in the Bible.
	At the beginning, you know, it's called repentance.
	And any other method other than repentance first will not accomplish the goal.
	Period. End of story.
	There's a lot of people promoting solutions right now, but they're man-made solutions.
	We got into this trouble because we rejected God and put man in place of God.
	So you can't have man-made solutions fix man-made problems.
	This is a God-sized problem, and the only way out of it is repentance.
	Otherwise, it's over. God has done this before, and He's going to do it again.
	When you say it's over, are we talking about something catastrophic, like, you know, I mean, that we've seen over and over again in the Bible, the wrath of God, so to speak, or are you talking about it's over, like our country's over, there's no future here?
	I think the wrath of God is at the doorstep if we don't repent.
	That's where I see it.
	I think we are clearly in the days of Noah.
	We have evil being called good.
	We have good being called evil.
	In the days of Noah, the Nephilim had infiltrated the So God had to eliminate the entire population other than Noah and his family in order to keep the seed here so that Jesus could come.
	And so what is the goal of these elites?
	I mean, they have the sustainability agenda.
	Of course, we've got to manage the population.
	We've got to manage the planet.
	You know, that seems, you know, they're a wolf in sheep's clothing, of course, with that.
	But their real agenda is transhumanism.
	So transhumanism is really the same thing.
	We're not going to have any pure human seed.
	I make a point in the video and part of it that talks about the arrogance of...
	Of people in general, but of Americans in particular, when we look back at those genocides that have occurred in the past, whether it's Mao in China or Lenin, Stalin, or Hitler, as we were discussing, we look back and we say, well, how did the people ever allow that to happen, right?
	And to me, that is the only thing that I need to add on to Scott's point about, can we turn it around?
	Well, we've got to stop tolerating stuff.
	Stop tolerating, you know, at your local level, stop tolerating this crap that they're trying to shove down your throats.
	And you don't have to be violent.
	You just pick up a document like the one I was talking to you about, and you get educated on it, and you push back on it.
	I'm gonna put on this document, by the way.
	You're speaking about the grand jury evidence?
	Yeah, right. Yeah, I'm just gonna flash this on screen.
	Could you talk a little bit about what this image is representing?
	So this is a document that originally I got from David Sorensen's StopTheWorld.com.
	It's an excellent website. This is a document that I think would be very beneficial for any viewer who's going to watch Breaking the Oath or anybody who just is shaking their head no and, you know, being skeptical about what we're talking about.
	This document shows you the history and it provides the proof that you need to really come to an understanding that what we're talking about is really happening.
	This document is the equivalent to Mein Kampf was.
	If only the Germans would have taken that seriously when he said he was going to kill all the Jews.
	This document shows that this whole situation that we find ourselves in today is deliberate, it's planned, and it's being executed.
	And the whole COVID thing, the vaccine, all that, they're just spiderweb strands and overall web that includes all kinds of other things, like the environmentalism and how crushing what they want to do to our societies in the name of environmental fascism,
	basically. So that document has 120 individual links that source everything that's said in there, and it's just indisputable.
	It's evidence, and you can go to the website, America First Productions, and go to Breaking the Oath, and you'll see, under Breaking the Oath, you'll see evidence, and you can download that document.
	Yep, yep. And we've done quite a few Blood Money episodes.
	For anybody out there that has even a smidgen of doubt, you should watch some of these doctors talk about what has happened to our population because it is without a doubt population controlled.
	It's Holocaust, genocide.
	Frankly, the worst genocide or Holocaust in the history of humankind.
	There's never been numbers of this kind.
	I mean, we're talking about 7 million, but when you talk about All these people dying because of the jab, the buildup of spike proteins, you know, heart attacks creeping up a year, two, three years later.
	I mean, we're looking at like a billion plus.
	This is the biggest threat that mankind has ever had.
	This is global genocide.
	This isn't genocide in Nazi Germany.
	This isn't genocide in the Soviet Union.
	This is global genocide.
	And it's being done, and they'll tell you right in the documents of World Economic Forum, they say they want to get the population down to 500 million or less.
	It's also in the Guidestones in Georgia, if you've ever heard of the Guidestones.
	That's number one on their list, is maintain a population of 500 million people.
	Seven and a half billion of us.
	Yeah. Seven and a half billion people.
	Wow. You know, Jeff, this hasn't been an easy process for you because while you've been making this documentary, I mean, you've had health issues.
	Can you tell us a little bit about the process of making this documentary and some of the challenges that you're dealing with just on a personal level to see you through?
	Well, you know, originally I was in corporate America, as I was talking to you before the show here.
	And in 2019, I got diagnosed with a disease called interstitial cystitis.
	It's a disease that, you know, 99% of the people that have it are female.
	So I'm the lucky 1% male who...
	All the treatments are not made for.
	And it's kind of like having a severe bladder infection all the time.
	So pain is a constant everyday thing for me.
	And that said, I still view that as a blessing because that was given to me by God so that I could do this.
	And that's the truth of it.
	This slowed me down.
	This really put me in a place where I got to decide what's important to me.
	And going through your midlife crisis like I was at 54 or 55, you're thinking, what's my legacy?
	Well, the legacy is freedom, and that's what everybody's legacy should be.
	Not only in America, but we've got to go back to the individual, as Scott was talking about, the individual liberty, right?
	And they're trying to take that away from everybody right now.
	And, you know, it's your children.
	They're taking your children away, right?
	Going on the gender transformation behind your back and all this stuff that's going on.
	So really, it's been a privilege.
	It's been an honor for me to not only do this documentary, but to do my show.
	I've met so many wonderful people.
	And my advice would be, no matter what your challenges are, Decide what you're good at.
	Decide what you can contribute and do it.
	We gotta have this legacy of freedom.
	That's what we have to do.
	I mean, what makes you compelled to become part of this movement?
	Is it just your fight to freedom?
	I mean, what is it about this that makes this the most crucial fight?
	Well, I fully believe in the idea of America.
	And if you have children, you know, when you put your head on your pillow at night, the last thing that you want to think of is, my kids are going to be enslaved.
	And they're going to have terrible, miserable lives because some elitist Nazi...
	Nazi, exactly.
	Thinks that they know better.
	So that's my motivation.
	I just really believe that people should be free.
	They should be able to pursue their dreams.
	They should pursue happiness, right?
	The pursuit of happiness. It's just our government needs to get the hell out of the way and let people pursue their happiness.
	Scott, who were you before all this happened and how would you describe yourself now?
	Well, I was a business owner that worked way too many hours.
	I was motivated to have the business survive my death so that it would take care of my daughter Grace and my wife Cindy after I was gone.
	So I've been a business owner for over 30 years.
	Thank God I developed heart disease about six years ago.
	I was diagnosed so that it took a long time to get it to that point.
	Then, six years ago, I started training my guys to run the business.
	Now, the transition was fairly easy.
	I am doing this full-time.
	I've become a full-time advocate, researcher.
	God knew that it was going to...
	I put a fire in my belly to do this.
	And he set this up six years prior so that my guys can run the business and the business can take care of this project that we're working on.
	You know, this project is this whole thing.
	We have 18 billboards up.
	We filed a lawsuit.
	All of that takes a fair amount of cash flow to be able to do all that.
	But, you know, that's what I do now.
	So before I would have said, I would, I described myself as a businessman who had a healthy, I was a conservative with a healthy distrust for the government.
	Now I would say that I'm an advocate and I completely think our government is totally corrupt.
	Both parties, I think they're all in on it.
	And I think that, The only way out of this is for people to wake up.
	Think through how easy, like Jeff said, if people just stood.
	So when they demanded masks, if everybody said, screw it, we're not wearing masks, it would have been over.
	But no, they didn't.
	And then when people were told you had to get the jab to keep their job, say, no, we're not doing that.
	That would have been over. You have to wear a mask to get on an airplane.
	No, we're not doing that. I mean, it would have shut the airlines down.
	So then they would have had to retreat from these crazy, draconian positions.
	But they saw how easy it was to take, you know, the masses by far.
	I mean, the masses agreed with all this.
	You know, this crazy shot.
	Think through that.
	Right now, anybody can read the Brooke Jackson filing.
	Brooke Jackson filed the False Claims Act Against Pfizer.
	Read it. It says it was never a vaccine.
	But then our government, so you read that document, then you see they're still promoting You know, whatever, the 18th jab.
	You have Chelsea Clinton as of two days ago going out there and saying that every child, every baby should be vaccinated when they know this kills children.
	I mean, how can you look at them and say you're not a pile of evil crap when she has access to this information, but she is essentially promoting the manslaughter, the murder of children.
	At least that's the way I look at it.
	Well, they're in the practice of using fear, which is, again, one of the key tools that has been used throughout history.
	And that's, to Scott's point, that's how they got people to take the jab.
	It's how they got people to wear the mask.
	Nobody, my background in corporate America was safety and environmental compliance.
	So I knew it was complete nonsense that you put a cotton weave mask that's 80 micron holes in it for a 60 micron, you know, virus.
	It's so stupid.
	Yeah, yeah. I used to tell people, hey, next time you have to go to the bathroom and sit on the throne, put a mask on, see if you can still smell.
	It's funny because that was the big joke.
	Like a guy I knew went around farting around people and being like, could you smell that?
	Well, your mask doesn't work because my fart particles are a lot smaller than the COVID particles.
	Exactly. Exactly.
	Yeah. Yeah. Scott, if I told you 10 years ago that our government would be conspiring to murder 95% of us, what would you have told me?
	Yeah, that's a fantastic question.
	I was literally thinking about that this morning.
	What if somebody told me this 10 years ago?
	I would not have believed them.
	However, and this is why a research component of my advocacy is a big deal, because I'm analytical, and if they would have shown me documents, they would have convinced me.
	They wouldn't have convinced me with their testimony.
	Because, you know, unless I trusted them, you know, then they could have convinced me with their testimony.
	But show me the documents.
	Show me the evidence. And that's why I like to show evidence whenever I'm talking because that's the tool that convinces me.
	And when you see something like that, the Brooke Jackson documents, Section 1553 of Obamacare, you know, the palliative care training for Down Syndrome kids, you see these things in writing and it's like, I mean...
	It's there. And it's plain to read.
	You don't have to even interpret.
	Yeah. Unbelievable stuff.
	Unbelievable stuff. I mean, I just think to myself, you know, when you talk about these agendas and, you know, eugenics and all of that, you know, something like 60 million black kids have been aborted.
	Not jumping to the topic of abortion, but it's similar because they're talking about similar depopulation agendas.
	You wonder, you know, how many Martin Luther Kings were in there, you know?
	How many wonderful, intelligent people?
	It's like these outliers that you least expect that rise up to the challenge and become leaders and great people, right?
	And how many of those did we lose because of this wholesale corruption?
	Because essentially this agenda to murder massive portions of the population.
	Jeff, what are your hopes for the documentary?
	What happens next?
	I think you were saying that on May 22nd, you have your premiere.
	May 21st, we have a private event theater premiere.
	May 22nd is the public release.
	May 22nd is also the release of a director's edition version that has more footage and back behind the scenes stuff.
	My hope for this is that it's impactful and that it convinces people to do their own studying and that they listen to what Scott just said and look at that evidence and decide for themselves That they need to stop worrying about the small things in life, as people say, the first world problems, because we have a lot bigger problems right now, and everybody needs to step up and do their part in it.
	The last thing I'll say about the documentary is that there are 43 other families that That their loved one died in a similar manner to how Grace died.
	And my opinion of that is that they were murdered.
	And when you go through the film and you watch the film and at the end...
	Yeah.
	Yeah. Yeah, yeah. The enemy is within.
	I mean, enough talking about Hitlers and Stalins.
	When the Hitlers and Stalins are here today, right now in action, and never again is complete BS. Because look how easy it is.
	I mean, think about it this way.
	It's like this was a virus that doesn't even do that much damage.
	What happens when something truly damaging comes?
	In a way, a lot of people, you know, assume that this was just a testing ground.
	Let's see how this kind of relatively benign virus, and I'm talking in regards to COVID-19, let's see what that does to the people.
	And then what happens when something that actually kills 5% of the population comes out?
	I mean, it's really scary stuff how easy it is to have people give up their freedoms.
	You know, we saw it with the Patriot Act.
	We're seeing it right now. Is there anything in closing, Scott and Jeff, that we didn't talk about that you'd want to mention or discuss?
	I wouldn't mind just framing the film as far as how I see it.
	This film exposes one tentacle Of the antichrist beast system.
	So we're in the antichrist beast system.
	I mean, that's what we're in. That means that Satan is the prince of this world, which we know.
	And, you know, his minions have convinced us to rely on pharmaceuticals and the white coats instead of God to heal our bodies.
	Remember, I'm in the hospital murder lane.
	And so that's why I'm talking about this.
	And they even invented, like I said earlier, the Hippocratic Oath to further entrench the lie.
	And now the trap has been set.
	I see that COVID was a diversion for the bigger trap, you know, the bigger evil trap.
	Is there something else coming?
	Well, the book of Revelation says a second beast system is coming that replaces the first beast system.
	And that's the false prophet system.
	And remember, this is a battle for souls.
	So Satan doesn't care if he looks evil on one side or if he looks good as an angel of light on the other side.
	Every chance I get, I want to frame what we're doing in that light.
	So we're definitely exposing evil with this film.
	But if we only expose evil, we miss the mark.
	Because we also have to share what God's plan is.
	And God has a plan to Rectify evil through repentance and through His Son, Jesus Christ.
	And that always has to be said.
	Otherwise, we're just contributing to the next level if all we're doing is exposing evil.
	We're shining God's light on evil is what we're doing.
	Exactly, exactly.
	And evil has a lot harder time surviving in the light than it does in the darkness.
	Jeff, any last words?
	yeah just in closing i would say you know people can can uh on the 21st or 22nd they can go to americafirstproductions.com they can see the the the uh documentary there for free um the the release will also be on the patriot review sites so all the social media the uh rumbles and all those and then um Would like to say,
	too, that there is a positive story in this as well, and that is, you know, what you can do for your families.
	And there's an example in there in the documentary.
	I won't give it away, but if you want to know how to fight back, that's part of the documentary as well.
	It's not all just gloom and doom.
	Um, you know, so, so that, that part of it, Scott mentioned, you know, that's an important piece of it and we need to remember that there's good things.
	I have, the last thing I'll say is I have this, uh, saying that I share with my viewers and that is remember the ripple.
	And what I mean, what I mean by that is for all of you out there who just don't think that you can contribute to fighting this evil, you generally don't know the positive effects that your actions have.
	Just keep that in mind.
	Even if you do something really small, it's still positive.
	It still makes a difference.
	Like a butterfly effect.
	I mean, you might tell somebody something, that person tells somebody else, and you save a life without even knowing it, because you don't know what happened to that truth, that word that you put out.
	You know, gentlemen, amazing work.
	Jeff, is there a way for people to donate to you, by the way?
	Because you're obviously doing this stuff for free.
	I mean, you're giving out the documentary for free.
	Is there a way for people to help you out?
	People can purchase the Director's Edition.
	If they use America First, America No.
	1 ST, they get $10 off.
	So check that out.
	And I have a donate button on both RedBloodedPatriots.com, which is my Patriot Review Show website, and then America First Productions, which is on the bottom of the screen there.
	I'd appreciate anything anyone can give, and if anybody has ideas for following up and really exposing more of this stuff, I'm always open to helping people out as well.
	Jeff, didn't you also tell me that if anybody wants to contribute more than $500,000, they're supposed to do that by wire transfer?
	Yeah, right.
	I don't recall thinking that big, Scott, but I need to do that.
	No. Well, I mean, for the viewers, you know, this is the way we're going to get out of this mess, right?
	I mean, we saw how networks that are run due to pharmaceutical finances with these corrupted industrial complexes, I mean, they will tell you lies that literally result in the death and destruction of your family.
	And I know what happened to Scott wasn't necessarily because of these COVID jabs, but Like he was saying, this has been going on for decades.
	We just found out about it because it happened on such an industrial level to the mass population of this world, right?
	And so the way we beat this corruption is by supporting people like Jeff, and frankly, you know, supporting people like America happens, what we do over here with the Blood Money podcast, because that's the way the truth is going to come out.
	And so kindly, if you could afford it, please consider donating to Jeff.
	Please consider supporting this very worthy cause.
	And I thank you, gentlemen, for showing up to this Blood Money podcast.
	Thank you so much. And thank you so much, Scott, for coming out and telling your story about what happened to your beautiful daughter.
	The viewers out there, thank you so much for showing up to the Blood Money podcast.
	Please join us for the next episode.
	And please also check out our platform, AmericaHappens.com, where we have all of our shows posted, including Blood Money, including Conspiracy Truths by Mindy Robinson, Gianna Michele, State National University, Joey Gilbert's Gloves Off.
	I will see you on the next episode of Blood Money.
	Blood Money.
	I'm going to be playing a game called Blood Money.
	My daughter was killed by the hospital Killing Fields and we made a movie about this evil conspiracy to kill our children.
	Alright, so we're on the latest episode of Blood Money with two very special guests, Jeff Wagner and Scott Shara.
	Did I get that right?
	You got it. Alright, alright, cool.
	How you guys doing? Wonderful.
	So let's just dive right into it.
	Jeff, if you don't mind quickly introducing yourself, what you're doing and what capacity you work with Scott.
	Sure. So I am the host of a show called The Patriot Review, which is on frankspeech.com and writeamericamedia.com and all your typical stream sites, streaming sites.
	And back in 2022, I had Scott on that show.
	To talk about what happened to his family and his daughter, Grace.
	And since then, I've attended some of the rallies that he has had.
	And Scott asked me to actually help him and work on this documentary, telling the story.
	And since the time we originally began it, the project has really ballooned.
	And it's become, I think, much larger than what we both first anticipated.
	So we're excited about it.
	Is it okay, Scott, before I have you speak a little bit about yourself, is it okay if I just play the preview of the documentary that just Jeff has been working on about your daughter?
	After we watched our daughter, Grace, die on police time, I immediately felt that I needed to go to the hospital, though I was still pretty sick.
	you And I met Jessica and our pastor there.
	And while we were in the room, Jessica and I had to spend a few moments just with Grace alone.
	It was just The emotions that came over the top of our minds and our physical bodies were just unbelief.
	We took her BiPAP off because it was still on.
	This was hope and prayers that somehow she wasn't really gone.
	As soon as we did that, the color of grace changed.
	We had to accept that she was truly gone.
	Not one person is that foot in that womb.
	How can you do that?
	How can you allow an innocent person, a child, she's only 19 years old, die in front of your eyes?
	You don't do that.
	If you're human, you don't do that.
	They knew they weren't going to convince us to put Grace on a ventilator.
	That means the money was going to dry up.
	They had to have the money.
	And when you follow the money trail all the way through, you see that a ventilator is about a $300,000 decision.
	That they had higher paying patients in the emergency room.
	Graces were more dead than alive.
	This is the end of the video. Please like, comment, and subscribe. Thanks.
	I mean, if I could have a word before you talk, Scott, about this documentary.
	I mean, it seems as though having done, you know, we're up to 88 episodes of this podcast, Blood Money.
	And we consistently expose stories about conspiracies, controversies, and corruption.
	And it seems as though all of our industrial complexes in the United States, not just the medical industrial complex, but all of our industrial complexes are really geared towards the destruction of people Over a financial amount.
	Now, in this preview, we talked about the ventilators, how this child was worth more to the system dead than alive because of the $300,000 incentive.
	Then you look at organizations like CPS, our family law industry, where literal Price amounts are put on the destruction of children, that this institutionalized destruction of children actually makes these court systems a lot of money.
	And I just see essentially an entire variety of industrial complexes that are geared towards our destruction.
	And I just wanted to make that point because watching a very powerful preview about what happened to Grace, I'm sad to say, but it's happening across our industrial complexes on an industrial level now.
	So anyway, excuse that rant, but I just felt like I had to make that point.
	Scott, you know, tell us, introduce yourself, tell us a little bit about what happened to you and your family.
	I'm having a hard time hearing you.
	I wonder if I should go out and come back in.
	You're frozen right now.
	Oh, I am? Okay. Jeff, are you experiencing the same issue?
	Both of you guys are good.
	All of a sudden, you just opened up again.
	Okay. So I did hear what you said about the medical industrial complex.
	I mean no doubt that that's true and it's way bigger of course as you noted other than it's infiltrated all of our society.
	We've been programmed to believe things that are Complete lies.
	And, you know, it starts with the American dream that we're free.
	Well, we're not free at all.
	And, you know, I didn't know any of this until Grace died.
	I've become awake.
	And Jeff, you know, Jeff met me as I was waking up.
	And I don't know that anybody can be totally awake.
	And he's right on.
	This project got substantially bigger.
	And it's because Grace's story has got so big.
	I've been on about 500 interviews now.
	We filed a lawsuit on April 11th, the first of its kind.
	And so the story has gotten so big and the documentary expanded because of all the different people that I've met through this process of sharing the story.
	I'm humbled to be used like this.
	I can hardly believe it's happening in our country.
	People who are not awake have a hard time believing what we have to say.
	You know, for the last three years, I know that our group has been going to great extent to let people know what's been going on, especially since this COVID jab started.
	And that seems to have been You know, part of this depopulation agenda from, you know, after having spoken to 20 something frontline doctors, they all say the same thing that this job is destructive and people's eyes are starting to open.
	And what we're noticing is that now that people on a wholesale level are feeling sick, they're going through their nine to fives, not feeling themselves, having noticeable damage to their health, people are starting to open their eyes and they're becoming curious about this.
	And it seems as though You, through your experiences with what happened to Grace, went through this eye-opening experience as well.
	I mean, what did it feel like to realize that in our country, people are actually incentivized to cause damage to the population for financial gain?
	A lot of the points took me a couple of weeks just to percolate through my head.
	And now that I am on the other side of it, what it feels like is interestingly different because what I see now that I am doing this full time is that most of the people who are in this movement, I don't think they believe how bad it really is.
	You know, they seem to be...
	Certainly on the medical freedom side of the scale, but this is terrible.
	I'm in the hospital murder lane, to be blunt.
	That lane has not been exposed yet.
	This film exposes that lane.
	Hardly anybody knows that this is even happening.
	This has been happening for decades.
	That's what I've uncovered.
	This has nothing to do with COVID. This agenda has been around for a long, long time.
	And as Jeff is very well aware, I mean, I got codified with Obamacare on March 23rd of 2010.
	You know, nobody reads Obamacare, but I challenge anybody listening to pull it up.
	Google Obamacare or brave it, whatever you want.
	It's 974 pages long.
	Read section 1553, which is page 141.
	Read it. It will change your life because all of a sudden you'll see that we were the first.
	We're always the first. Our country is always the first with evil.
	And then we point our finger to everybody else.
	We project sin like no other country in the world.
	Those naughty Canadians with their medical assistance in dying program, we had medical assistance in dying way before the Canadians.
	We invented it. And we codified it in Obamacare.
	And it's right there for the review.
	I mean, when you read that page, it changes your whole view because you realize they put it in writing And are implementing it and have been implementing it for decades.
	My daughter was taken out because of that agenda, not because of COVID. Right.
	Wow. And if I could just step in just a second here, the whole euthanasia movement, that was a big thing in the 1920s and 30s.
	It was huge. There were a lot of famous people.
	And I have a clip of Bernard Shaw or...
	George Bernard Shaw, who was a playwright, right?
	And he's talking about how if people are useless, they should be terminated.
	They don't need to exist if they're not contributing.
	Who determines that?
	That's the problem. Do you remember the meetings that they had publicly about Obamacare?
	And the Republicans around the table were saying they're going to have death committees, right?
	They're going to have... These boards that decide who lives and dies based on their value.
	And of course, everybody shunned those folks and laughed at them.
	But here we are today in the exact situation that they were warning about.
	Wow, wow. Now, you said, Scott, you said that this has been going on for years.
	I mean, it's definitely become very apparent with the killing fields, the hospital killing fields of COVID-19.
	How, you know, remdesivir, all the different systems that ultimately resulted in death for so many.
	I mean, it's become very clear.
	But what do you mean when you say it's been going on for decades?
	Could you please elaborate?
	As to what's been going on for decades in regards to the hospital killing fields.
	So if you just process this just in terms of Obamacare.
	So that's decades just with Obamacare.
	So we'll start with that and then we can go backwards.
	So Obamacare was put into law March 23rd of 2010.
	The impetus behind Obamacare was euthanasia.
	In fact, The chief architect of Obamacare was Ezekiel Emanuel.
	In 1996, he said, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed.
	So that is all of us.
	We'll be non-participating citizens.
	And when that day arrives, whatever for us to decide, because there's people smarter than us that get to decide that.
	Of course, I'm saying that tongue in cheek.
	Then once we become non-participating citizens, we don't deserve health care.
	So you start with that.
	So that man is the key architect of Obamacare.
	So it's no surprising that page 141, section 1553 documents the euthanasia, mercy killing, and assisted suicide.
	It's right in the document. It says that is how they're going to kill us.
	So it's no surprise that that's in there.
	Okay, so then let's go back further.
	How can you convince a doctor to Commit euthanasia or assisted suicide or mercy killing.
	How does that even work?
	How could you convince a man to implement something to kill another man?
	That doesn't make any sense.
	But they do it under the spirit of collectivism.
	So collectivism means the good of the mass versus individualism, the good of the individual.
	And they lied to us by implementing the Hippocratic Oath.
	Many, many decades ago to get us to believe in a document.
	These doctors have to sign the Hippocratic Oath.
	A doctor wrote me just last week.
	He said, Scott, I want to remind you, we never have had to sign the Hippocratic Oath.
	The Hippocratic Oath was put in place to get the population to believe we're following individualism when in fact we're following collectivism.
	So then what they do is they do training documents so that these guys' consciences get seared.
	And an example of a training document we found, my daughter Grace had Down syndrome.
	So, of course, my research started with Down syndrome.
	One of the training documents we found with Down syndrome, and this spirit of collectivism has been going on way before Obamacare.
	And the excuse they use, Val, I'm sorry, is that it's...
	It's financially impossible to maintain the system of Medicare and Medicaid.
	That's the excuse they use.
	Well, just think about how foolish that is.
	That's another lie because we don't...
	So when did that lie start?
	Well, that started back when we started the fiat currency.
	So we don't have any balancing of budget even necessary anymore.
	So why do they even bring that up?
	Because people can't grasp the concept of a fiat currency.
	All right, so back to the training document I mentioned, and then I'll slow down.
	You got me pretty wound up with that question.
	So this training document is from the Palliative Care Network of Wisconsin.
	Jeff and I are from Wisconsin.
	Grace is from Wisconsin.
	So just put your state in here.
	This is written by two MDs.
	This is to train doctors and nurses about how to handle patients with Down syndrome.
	It's called palliative care for patients with Down syndrome.
	They don't say anything positive.
	They introduce Down syndrome as problem after problem after problem.
	So that first title is causes of morbidity and death and Down syndrome.
	So they list about 40 problems Down syndrome people can have.
	Sleep apnea, dental issues, cardiac septal defects, thyroid dysfunction, blah, blah, blah.
	So why do they list all those problems?
	Well, the reason they list those problems is they are setting up the doctor to use the excuse of collectivism to take this group of the population out.
	So their transition statement says this, the lifelong toll on families is high.
	So when you read that litany, if you don't know anything about people with Down syndrome, you think, oh my gosh, why would any family want somebody that has Down syndrome?
	These are just problems, right?
	So the lifelong toll on families is high.
	The lifelong toll on our family of having Grace was fantastic.
	She made us a better family.
	She made me a better dad.
	She just loved the way God intended.
	So then they say part of a robust plan of care includes acknowledgement of this toll by healthcare workers.
	So the healthcare worker is supposed to acknowledge that these families Don't want the Down syndrome child.
	All right? So now they set the stage for the kill.
	I mean, this is right in the published document.
	It says, whenever possible, decision makers, that's the doctors, for people with Down syndrome should be encouraged to use substituted judgment, their judgment, to make key palliative care decisions.
	All efforts should be made to determine the preferences of the patient.
	However, because of lifelong cognitive impairment, the views of the person with Down syndrome may not be known.
	Just process that insanity.
	I know the view of every single person with Down syndrome on the entire planet.
	They want to live just like I want to live, just like you want to live them, and just like Jeff wants to live.
	Why does a Down syndrome...
	It makes no sense.
	That they talk nothing about the child's capacity to love, being a loving creature, nothing emotional.
	It's all detachment. And one thing I noticed, I mean, frankly, this is straight, like, Third Reich, Fourth Reich, whatever Nazi ideology.
	I mean, straight out of, like, straight out of, like, literal, like, Hitler's teachings in Mein Kampf getting rid of people that don't fit a certain level of perfection of the elite.
	So Nazism, that's where we are with...
	That's because, so now you take it all the way back then.
	That's because Hitler adopted our thinking.
	We invented this crap.
	We invented eugenics in the United States.
	Hitler adopted from us.
	And then we pulled the chief architect still working for Hitler through Operation Paperclip back in the United States.
	So that's why I can say this has been going on for decades.
	And when it's convenient to play on people's emotions and say, oh, look how bad Hitler is.
	He was killing people that were not in vision of his perfection, the Aryan perfect image in his eyes.
	I mean, they made him out to be a bad guy because of that.
	But our system is essentially using the same techniques.
	And as you're saying, we invented this stuff.
	Hitler was a hero. Charles Lindbergh loved Hitler.
	He went to Germany to visit him before all the deaths started happening.
	And this film, I'm glad you brought him up because there's a lot of films that are out there right now that deal with a piece of this overall problem.
	This Breaking the Oath is the only film that I'm aware of That brings us all together in a worldview, and we make direct parallels.
	We have Vera Sharab, who's a Holocaust survivor, is one of the guests on this program, this movie, and she makes direct parallels, seeing what's happening in America today and what was happening back when she was a little girl in Nazi Germany.
	And really, when you start comparing them, It's literally shocking because it wakes you up just in thinking about that and going down that path.
	So that's one of the things that the documentary, I mean, the guy that's behind me on the screen, he is more...
	A dangerous and a more evil person than Dr.
	Mengele was, who was famous for his experiments on twins and children.
	By the way, do you mind if I pause you right there?
	Because people are going to listen to that statement, some people, and they're going to say, oh, right-wing conspiracy theorists and all that stuff.
	But the numbers alone, I mean, when you look at how many people were murdered in World War II, right?
	If you look at the gypsies and the Nazis and...
	12 million just on the German side.
	So what we're looking at right now, according to a lot of these frontline doctors, is potentially up to a billion dead in the next 24 months.
	Keep in mind that Mengele, I mean, he had a very limited number of kids that he killed.
	And yes, he sent people to the gas chamber.
	But this guy that's behind me, Mengla looked people in the eye and did it.
	This guy doesn't care.
	Right now there's 7 million deaths around the world in COVID and only going up.
	So what's the difference between those two?
	This guy, in my opinion, that's behind me is much worse.
	Yeah, yeah. It's just he's protected by the system.
	He's protected by the system.
	I mean, he is roaming around free and not get too political.
	But today, you know, we just heard that a certain former president was, you know, based upon no evidence is now found guilty for defaming somebody that he claims lied.
	And I mean, said that like...
	You know, he raped her.
	I mean, I don't want to bring that up because he's such a polarizing figure, but it just shows that in every industrial complex, including our legal fields, all the standards have disappeared.
	There's no standards in law.
	There's no standards in medicine.
	You know, oaths are broken.
	I mean, just like the doctors are breaking their oaths, the lawyers are breaking their oaths.
	I mean, how far have we come as a country?
	And is there a way to repair this?
	Is there a way to make a U-turn?
	Who are you asking? Whoever wants to take the question.
	Go ahead, Scott. I absolutely think there's a make There's a way to make a U-turn.
	God wrote it out in the Bible at the beginning.
	It's called repentance.
	And any other method other than repentance first will not accomplish the goal.
	Period. End of story.
	There's a lot of people promoting solutions right now, but they're man-made solutions.
	We got into this trouble because we rejected God and put man in place of God.
	So you can't have man-made solutions fix man-made problems.
	This is a God-sized problem, and the only way out of it is repentance.
	Otherwise, it's over. God has done this before, and He's going to do it again.
	When you say it's over, are we talking about something catastrophic, like, you know, I mean, that we've seen over and over again in the Bible, the wrath of God, so to speak, or are you talking about it's over, like our country's over, there's no future here?
	I think the wrath of God is at the doorstep if we don't repent.
	That's where I see it. I mean, I think we are clearly in the days of Noah.
	We have evil being called good.
	We have good being called evil.
	In the days of Noah, the Nephilim had infiltrated the Entire population.
	So God had to eliminate the entire population other than Noah and his family in order to keep the seed pure so that Jesus could come.
	And so what is the goal of these elites?
	I mean, they have the sustainability agenda.
	Of course, we've got to manage the population.
	We've got to manage the planet.
	You know, that seems, you know, they're a wolf in sheep's clothing, of course, with that.
	But their real agenda is transhumanism.
	So transhumanism is really the same thing.
	We're not going to have any pure human seed.
	I make a point in the video and part of it that talks about the arrogance of...
	Of people in general, but of Americans in particular, when we look back at those genocides that have occurred in the past, whether it's Mao in China or Lenin, Stalin, or Hitler, as we were discussing, we look back and we say, well, how did the people ever allow that to happen, right?
	And to me, that is the only thing that I need to add on to Scott's point about, can we turn it around?
	Well, we got to stop tolerating stuff.
	Stop tolerating, you know, at your local level, stop tolerating this crap that they're trying to shove down your throats.
	And you don't have to be violent.
	You know, you just pick up a document like the one I was talking to you about, and you get educated on it, and you push back on it.
	I'm gonna put on this document, by the way.
	You're speaking about the grand jury evidence?
	Yeah, right. Yeah, I'm just gonna flash this on screen.
	Could you talk a little bit about what this image is representing?
	So this is a document that originally I got from David Sorensen's StopTheWorld.com.
	It's an excellent website. This is a document that I think would be very beneficial for any viewer who's going to watch Breaking the Oath or anybody who just is shaking their head no and being skeptical about what we're talking about.
	This document shows you the history and it provides the proof that you need to really come to an understanding that what we're talking about is really happening.
	This document is the equivalent to Mein Kampf was.
	If only the Germans would have taken that seriously when he said he was going to kill all the Jews.
	This document shows that this whole situation that we find ourselves in today is deliberate, it's planned, and it's being executed.
	And the whole COVID thing, the vaccine, all that, they're just spiderweb strands and overall web that includes all kinds of other things, like the environmentalism and how crushing what they want to do to our societies in the name of environmental fascism,
	basically. So that document has 120 individual links that source everything that's said in there, and it's just indisputable.
	It's evidence, and you can go to the website, America First Productions, and go to Breaking the Oath, and you'll see, under Breaking the Oath, you'll see evidence, and you can download that document.
	Yep, yep. And we've done quite a few Blood Money episodes.
	For anybody out there that has even a smidgen of doubt, you should watch some of these doctors talk about what has happened to our population because it is without a doubt population controlled.
	It's Holocaust, genocide.
	Frankly, the worst genocide or Holocaust in the history of humankind.
	There's never been numbers of this kind.
	I mean, we're talking about 7 million, but when you talk about All these people dying because of the jab, the buildup of spike proteins, you know, heart attacks creeping up a year, two, three years later.
	I mean, we're looking at like a billion plus.
	This is the biggest threat that mankind has ever had.
	This is global genocide.
	This isn't genocide in Nazi Germany.
	This isn't genocide in the Soviet Union.
	This is global genocide.
	And it's being done, and they'll tell you right in the documents of World Economic Forum, they say they want to get the population down to 500 million or less.
	It's also in the Guidestones in Georgia, if you've ever heard of the Guidestones.
	That's number one on their list, is maintain a population of 500 million people.
	Seven and a half billion of us.
	Yeah, seven and a half billion people.
	Wow. You know, Jeff, this hasn't been an easy process for you because while you've been making this documentary, I mean, you've had health issues.
	Can you tell us a little bit about the process of making this documentary and some of the challenges that you're dealing with just on a personal level to see it through?
	Well, you know, originally I was in corporate America as I was talking to you before the show here.
	And in 2019 I got diagnosed with a disease called interstitial cystitis.
	It's a disease that, you know, 99% of the people that have it are female.
	So I'm the lucky 1% male who...
	All the treatments are not made for.
	And it's kind of like having a severe bladder infection all the time.
	So pain is a constant everyday thing for me.
	And that said, I still view that as a blessing because that was given to me by God so that I could do this.
	And that's the truth of it.
	This slowed me down.
	This really put me in a place where I got to decide what's important to me.
	And going through your midlife crisis like I was at 54 or 55, you're thinking, what's my legacy?
	Well, the legacy is freedom, and that's what everybody's legacy should be.
	Not only in America, but we've got to go back to the individual, as Scott was talking about, the individual liberty, right?
	And they're trying to take that away from everybody right now.
	And, you know, it's your children.
	They're taking your children away, right?
	Going on the gender transformation behind your back and all this stuff that's going on.
	So really, it's been a privilege.
	It's been an honor for me to not only do this documentary, but to do my show.
	I've met so many wonderful people.
	And my advice would be, no matter what your challenges are, Decide what you're good at.
	Decide what you can contribute and do it.
	We gotta have this legacy of freedom.
	That's what we have to do.
	I mean, what makes you compelled to become part of this movement?
	Is it just your fight to freedom?
	I mean, what is it about this that makes this the most crucial fight?
	Well, I fully believe in the idea of America.
	And if you have children, when you put your head on your pillow at night, the last thing that you want to think of is, my kids are going to be enslaved.
	And they're going to have terrible, miserable lives because some elitist Nazi...
	Nazi, exactly.
	Thinks that they know better.
	So that's my motivation.
	I just really believe that people should be free.
	They should be able to pursue their dreams.
	They should pursue happiness, right?
	The pursuit of happiness. It's just our government needs to get the hell out of the way and let people pursue their happiness.
	Scott, so who are you before all this happened and how would you describe yourself now?
	Well, I was a business owner that worked way too many hours.
	I was motivated to have the business survive my death so that it would take care of my daughter, Grace, and my wife, Cindy, after I was gone.
	So I've been a business owner for over 30 years.
	Thank God I developed heart disease about six years ago.
	I was diagnosed with that.
	It took a long time to get it to that point.
	Then, six years ago, I started training my guys to run the business.
	Now, the transition was fairly easy.
	I am doing this full-time.
	I've become a full-time advocate researcher.
	God knew that it was going to...
	Put a fire in my belly to do this.
	And he set this up six years prior so that my guys can run the business and the business can take care of this project that we're working on.
	You know, this project is this whole thing.
	We have 18 billboards up.
	We filed a lawsuit.
	You know, all of that takes a fair amount of cash flow to be able to Do all that.
	But, you know, that's what I do now.
	So before I would have said I would I describe myself as a businessman who had a healthy I was a conservative with a healthy distrust for the government.
	Now I would say that I'm an advocate and I completely think our government is totally corrupt.
	Both parties, I think they're all in on it.
	And I think that The only way out of this is for people to wake up.
	Think through how easy, like Jeff said, if people just stood.
	So when they demanded masks, if everybody said, screw it, we're not wearing masks, it would have been over.
	But no, they didn't.
	And then when people were told you had to get the jab to keep their job, say, no, we're not doing that.
	That would have been over. You have to wear a mask to get on an airplane.
	No, we're not doing it. I mean, it would have shut the airlines down.
	So then they would have had to retreat from these crazy draconian positions.
	But they saw how easy it was to take, you know, the masses by far.
	I mean, the masses agreed with all this.
	You know, this crazy shot.
	Think through that.
	Right now, anybody can read the Brooke Jackson filing.
	Brooke Jackson filed the False Claims Act against Pfizer.
	Read it. It says it was never a vaccine.
	But then our government, so you read that document, then you see they're still promoting vaccines.
	You know, whatever, the 18th jab.
	You have Chelsea Clinton, as of two days ago, going out there and saying that every child, every baby should be vaccinated when they know this kills children.
	I mean, how can you look at them and say you're not a pile of evil crap when she has access to this information, but she is essentially promoting the manslaughter of the murder of children?
	At least that's the way I look at it.
	Well, they're in the practice of using fear, which is, again, one of the key tools that has been used throughout history.
	And that's, to Scott's point, that's how they got people to take the jab.
	It's how they got people to wear the mask.
	Nobody, my background in corporate America was safety and environmental compliance.
	So I knew it was complete nonsense that you put a cotton weave mask that's 80 micron holes in it, or a 60 micron, you know, virus.
	It's so stupid.
	Yeah, yeah. I used to tell people, hey, next time you have to go to the bathroom and sit on the throne, put a mask on, see if you can still smell it.
	It's funny because that was a big joke.
	Like a guy I knew went around farting around people and being like, could you smell that?
	Well, your mask doesn't work because my fart particles are a lot smaller than the COVID particles.
	Exactly. Exactly.
	Yeah. Yeah. You know, Scott, if I told you 10 years ago that our government would be conspiring to murder 95% of us, what would you have told me?
	Yeah, that's a fantastic question.
	I was literally thinking about that this morning.
	What if somebody told me this 10 years ago?
	I would not have believed them.
	However, and this is why a research component of my advocacy is a big deal, because I'm analytical, and if they would have shown me documents, they would have convinced me.
	They wouldn't have convinced me with their testimony.
	Because, you know, unless I trusted them, you know, then they could have convinced me with their testimony.
	But show me the documents.
	Show me the evidence. And that's why I like to show evidence whenever I'm talking, because that's the tool that convinces me.
	And when you see something like that, the Brooke Jackson documents, Section 1553 of Obamacare, you know, the palliative care training for Down Syndrome kids, you see these things in writing, and it's like, I mean...
	It's there. And it's plain to read.
	You don't have to even interpret.
	Yeah. Unbelievable stuff.
	Unbelievable stuff. I mean, I just think to myself, you know, when you talk about these agendas and, you know, eugenics and all that, you know, something like 60 million black kids have been aborted.
	Not jumping to the, you know, topic of abortion, but it's similar because they're talking about similar depopulation agendas.
	And you wonder, you know, how many Martin Luther Kings were in there, you know?
	How many wonderful, intelligent people?
	It's like these outliers that you least expect that rise up to the challenge and become leaders and great people, right?
	And how many of those did we lose because of this wholesale corruption?
	Because essentially, this agenda to murder massive portions of the population.
	Jeff, what are your hopes for the documentary?
	I mean, what happens next?
	I think you were saying that on May 22nd, you have your premiere.
	May 21st, we have a private event theater premiere.
	May 22nd is the public release.
	May 22nd is also the release of a director's edition version that has more footage and back behind the scenes stuff.
	My hope for this is that it's impactful and that it convinces people to do their own studying and that they listen to what Scott just said and look at that evidence and decide for themselves That they need to stop worrying about, you know, the small things in life, as people say, the first world problems, because we have a lot bigger problems right now.
	And everybody needs to step up and do their part in it.
	The last thing I'll say about the documentary is that there are 43 other families that their loved one died in a similar manner to how Grace died.
	And my opinion of that is that they were murdered.
	And when you go through the film and you watch the film and at the end, You brought a great point with how many Martin Luther Kings were there.
	Every one of those individuals has a story.
	Every one of those individuals has a story.
	And their families and their friends, just the heartbreak that has gone around the world because of these people, it should infuriate every decent person on the planet.
	Yeah, yeah. The enemy is within.
	I mean, enough talking about Hitlers and Stalins.
	When the Hitlers and Stalins are here today, right now in action, and never again is complete BS. Because look how easy it is.
	I mean, think about it this way.
	It's like this was a virus that doesn't even do that much damage.
	What happens when something truly damaging comes?
	In a way, a lot of people, you know, assume that this was just a testing ground.
	Let's see how this kind of relatively benign virus, and I'm talking in regards to COVID-19, let's see what that does to the people.
	And then what happens when something that actually kills 5% of the population comes out?
	I mean, it's really scary stuff how easy it is to have people give up their freedoms.
	You know, we saw it with the Patriot Act.
	We're seeing it right now. Is there anything in closing, Scott and Jeff, that we didn't talk about that you'd want to mention or discuss?
	I wouldn't mind just framing the film as far as how I see it.
	This film exposes one tentacle Of the antichrist beast system.
	So we're in the antichrist beast system.
	I mean, that's what we're in. That means that Satan is the prince of this world, which we know.
	And, you know, his minions have convinced us to rely on pharmaceuticals and the white coats instead of God to heal our bodies.
	Remember, I'm in the hospital murder lane.
	And so that's why I'm talking about this.
	And they even invented, like I said earlier, the Hippocratic Oath to further entrench the lie.
	And now the trap has been set.
	I see that COVID was a diversion for the bigger trap, you know, the bigger evil trap, but then Is there something else coming?
	Well, the book of Revelation says a second beast system is coming that replaces the first beast system.
	And that's the false prophet system.
	And remember, this is a battle for souls.
	So Satan doesn't care if he looks evil on one side or if he looks good as an angel of light on the other side.
	And every chance I get, I want to frame what we're doing in that light.
	So we're definitely exposing evil with this film.
	But if we only expose evil, we miss the mark.
	Because we also have to share what God's plan is.
	And God has a plan to rectify evil through repentance and through His Son, Jesus Christ.
	And that always has to be said.
	Otherwise, we're just contributing to the next level if all we're doing is exposing evil.
	We're shining God's light on evil is what we're doing.
	Exactly. And evil has a lot harder time surviving in the light than it does in the darkness.
	Jeff, any last words?
	Yeah, just in closing, I would say, you know, people can, on the 21st or 22nd, they can go to americafirstproductions.com.
	They can see the documentary there for free.
	The release will also be on the Patriot Review sites, so all the social media, the rumbles and all those.
	Would like to say, too, that there is a positive story in this as well, and that is, you know, what you can do for your families.
	And there's an example in there in the documentary.
	I won't give it away, but if you want to know how to fight back, that's part of the documentary as well.
	It's not all just... You know, so that part of it, as Scott mentioned, you know, that's an important piece of it, and we need to remember that.
	There's good things. The last thing I'll say is I have this saying that I share with my viewers, and that is, remember the ripple.
	And what I mean by that is, for all of you out there who just don't think that you can contribute to fighting this evil...
	Yeah.
	that your actions have.
	Just keep that in mind.
	So even if you do something really small, it's still positive, it still makes a difference.
	Like a butterfly effect.
	I mean, you might tell somebody something, that person tells somebody else, and you save a life without even knowing it, without even knowing it, because you don't know what happened to that truth, that word that you put out.
	You know, gentlemen, amazing work.
	Jeff, is there a way for people to donate to you, by the way?
	Because you're obviously doing this stuff for free.
	I mean, you're giving out the documentary for free.
	Is there a way for people to help you out?
	People can purchase the Director's Edition.
	If they use America First, America No.
	1 ST, they get $10 off.
	So check that out.
	And I have a donate button on both redbloodedpatriots.com, which is my Patriot Review Show website, and then America First Productions, which is on the bottom of the screen there.
	I'd appreciate anything anyone can give.
	If anybody has ideas for following up and really exposing more of this stuff, I'm always open to helping people out as well.
	Jeff, didn't you also tell me that if anybody wants to contribute more than $500,000, they're supposed to do that by wire transfer?
	I don't recall thinking that big, Scott, but I need to do that.
	Well, I mean, for the viewers, you know, this is the way we're going to get out of this mess, right?
	I mean, we saw how networks that are run due to pharmaceutical finances with these corrupted industrial complexes, I mean, they will tell you lies that literally result in the death and destruction of your family.
	And I know what happened to Scott wasn't necessarily because of these COVID jabs, but Like you were saying, this has been going on for decades.
	We just found out about it because it happened on such an industrial level to the mass population of this world, right?
	And so the way we beat this corruption is by supporting people like Jeff, and frankly, you know, supporting people like America happens, what we do over here with the Blood Money podcast, because that's the way the truth is going to come out.
	And so kindly, if you could afford it, please consider donating to Jeff.
	Please consider supporting this very worthy cause.
	And I thank you, gentlemen, for showing up to this Blood Money podcast.
	Thank you so much. And thank you so much, Scott, for coming out and telling your story about what happened to your beautiful daughter.
	To the viewers out there, thank you so much for showing up to the Blood Money podcast.
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	And please also check out our platform, AmericaHappens.com, where we have all of our shows posted, including Blood Money, including Conspiracy Truths by Mindy Robinson, Gianna Michele, State National University, Joey Gilbert's Gloves Off.
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	My daughter was killed by the hospital Killing Fields and we made a movie about this evil conspiracy to kill our children.
	Alright, so we're on the latest episode of Blood Money with two very special guests.
	Jeff Wagner and Scott Shara.
	Did I get that right?
	You got it. Alright, cool.
	How you guys doing? Wonderful.
	Awesome. So let's just dive right into it.
	Jeff, if you don't mind quickly introducing yourself, what you're doing and what capacity you work with Scott.
	Sure. So I am the host of a show called The Patriot Review, which is on frankspeech.com and rightamericamedia.com and all your typical stream sites, streaming sites.
	And back in 2022, I had Scott on that show.
	To talk about what happened to his family and his daughter, Grace.
	And since then, I've attended some of the rallies that he has had.
	And Scott asked me to actually help him and work on this documentary telling the story.
	And since the time we originally began it, the project has really ballooned.
	And it's become, I think, much larger than what we both first anticipated.
	So we're excited about it.
	Is it okay, Scott, before I have you speak a little bit about yourself, is it okay if I just play the preview of the documentary that just Jeff has been working on about your daughter?
	♪ After we watched our daughter, Grace, die on police time, I immediately felt that I needed to go to the hospital, though I was still pretty sick.
	And I met Jessica and our pastor there.
	And while we were in the room, Jessica and I had to spend a few moments just with Grace alone.
	It was just The emotions that came over the top of our minds and our physical bodies were just unbelief.
	We took her BiPAP off because it was still on.
	This was her hope and prayers that somehow she wasn't really gone.
	As soon as we did that, the color of grace changed.
	We had to accept that she was truly gone.
	Not one person stepped foot in that room.
	How can you do that?
	How can you allow an innocent person, a child, she's only 19 years old, die in front of your eyes?
	You don't do that.
	If you're human, you don't do that.
	They knew they weren't going to convince us to put Grace on a ventilator.
	That means the money was going to dry up.
	They had to have the money.
	And when you follow the money trail all the way through, you see that a ventilator is about a $300,000 decision.
	That they had higher paying patients in the emergency room.
	Graces were more dead than alive.
	The end.
	Wow, wow, that's incredibly powerful.
	I mean, if I could have a word before you talk, Scott, about this documentary.
	I mean, it seems as though having done, you know, we're up to 88 episodes of this podcast, Blood Money.
	And we consistently expose stories about conspiracies, controversies, and corruption.
	And it seems as though all of our industrial complexes in the United States, not just the medical industrial complex, but all of our industrial complexes are really geared towards the destruction of people.
	Over a financial amount.
	Now, in this preview, we talked about the ventilators, how this child was worth more to the system dead than alive because of the $300,000 incentive.
	Then you look at organizations like CPS, our family law industry, where literal Price amounts are put on the destruction of children, that this institutionalized destruction of children actually makes these court systems a lot of money.
	And I just see essentially an entire variety of industrial complexes that are geared towards our destruction.
	And I just wanted to make that point because watching a very powerful preview about what happened to Grace, I'm sad to say, but it's happening across our industrial complexes on an industrial level now.
	So anyway, excuse that rant, but I just felt like I had to make that point.
	Scott, you know, introduce yourself.
	Tell us a little bit about what happened here and your family.
	I'm having a hard time hearing you.
	I wonder if I should go out and come back in.
	You're frozen right now.
	Oh, I am? Okay, okay.
	Jeff, are you experiencing the same issue?
	Oh, both you guys are good.
	All of a sudden, you just opened up again.
	Okay. So, I did hear what you said about the medical industrial complex.
	I mean, no doubt that that's true, and it's way bigger, of course, as you noted, other than it's infiltrated all of our society.
	We've been programmed to believe things that are Complete lies.
	It starts with the American dream that we're free.
	Well, we're not free at all.
	I didn't know any of this until Grace died.
	I've become awake. Jeff met me as I was waking up.
	I don't know that anybody can be totally awake.
	He's right on. This project got substantially bigger and it's because Grace's story has got so big.
	I've been on about 500 interviews now.
	We filed a lawsuit on April 11th, the first of its kind.
	And so the story has gotten so big and the documentary expanded because of all the different people that I've met through this process of sharing the story.
	I'm humbled to be used like this.
	I can hardly believe it's happening in our country.
	People who are not awake have a hard time believing what we have to say.
	You know, for the last three years, I know that our group has been going to great extent to let people know what's been going on, especially since this COVID jab started.
	And that seems to have been You know, part of this depopulation agenda from, you know, after having spoken to 20 something frontline doctors, they all say the same thing, that this job is destructive and people's eyes are starting to open.
	And what we're noticing is that now that people on a wholesale level are feeling sick, they're going through their nine to fives, not feeling themselves, having noticeable damage to their health, people are starting to open their eyes and they're becoming curious about this.
	And it seems as though You, through your experiences with what happened to Grace, went through this eye-opening experience as well.
	I mean, what did it feel like to realize that in our country people are actually incentivized to cause damage to the population for financial gain?
	A lot of the points took me a couple of weeks just to percolate through my head.
	And now that I am on the other side of it, what it feels like is interestingly different because what I see now that I am doing this full time is that most of the people who are in this movement, I don't think they believe how bad it really is.
	You know, they seem to be...
	Certainly on the medical freedom side of the scale, but this is terrible.
	I'm in the hospital murder lane, to be blunt.
	That lane has not been exposed yet.
	This film exposes that lane.
	Hardly anybody knows that this is even happening.
	This has been happening for decades.
	That's what I've uncovered.
	This has nothing to do with COVID. This agenda has been around for a long, long time.
	And as Jeff is very well aware, I mean, it got codified with Obamacare on March 23rd of 2010.
	You know, nobody reads Obamacare, but I challenge anybody listening to pull it up.
	Google Obamacare or brave it, whatever you want.
	It's 974 pages long.
	Read section 1553, which is page 141.
	Read it. It will change your life because all of a sudden you'll see that we were the first.
	We're always the first. Our country is always the first with evil.
	And then we point our finger to everybody else.
	We project sin like no other country in the world.
	We are those naughty Canadians with their medical assistance in dying program.
	We had medical assistance in dying way before the Canadians.
	We invented it. And we codified it in Obamacare and it's right there for the review.
	I mean, when you read that page, it changes your whole view because you realize they put it in writing and are implementing it and have been implementing it for decades.
	My daughter was taken out because of that agenda, not because of COVID. Right.
	And if I could just step in just a second here, the whole euthanasia movement, that was a big thing in the 1920s and 30s.
	It was huge. There were a lot of famous people.
	And I have a clip of Bernard Shaw or...
	George Bernard Shaw, who was a playwright, right?
	And he's talking about how if people are useless, they should be terminated.
	They don't need to exist if they're not contributing.
	Who determines that?
	That's the problem. Do you remember the meetings that they had publicly about Obamacare?
	And the Republicans around the table were saying they're going to have death committees, right?
	They're going to have... These boards that decide who lives and dies based on their value.
	And of course everybody shunned those folks and laughed at them, but here we are today in the exact situation that they were warning about.
	Wow, wow. Now, you said, Scott, you said that this has been going on for years.
	I mean, it's definitely become very apparent with the killing fields, the hospital killing fields of COVID-19.
	How, you know, remdesivir, all the different systems that ultimately resulted in death for so many.
	I mean, it's become very clear.
	But what do you mean when you say it's been going on for decades?
	Could you please elaborate?
	As to what's been going on for decades in regards to the hospital killing fields.
	So if you just process this just in terms of Obamacare.
	So that's decades just with Obamacare.
	So we'll start with that and then we can go backwards.
	So Obamacare was put into law March 23rd of 2010.
	The impetus behind Obamacare was euthanasia.
	In fact, The chief architect of Obamacare was Ezekiel Emanuel.
	In 1996, he said, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed.
	So that is all of us, some...
	We'll be non-participating citizens.
	And when that day arrives, whatever for us to decide, because there's people smarter than us that get to decide that.
	Of course, I'm saying that tongue in cheek.
	Then once we become non-participating citizens, we don't deserve health care.
	So you start with that.
	So that man is the key architect of Obamacare.
	So it's no surprising that page 141, section 1553 documents the euthanasia, mercy killing, and assisted suicide.
	It's right in the document.
	It says that is how they're going to kill us.
	So it's no surprise that that's in there.
	Okay, so then let's go back further.
	How can you convince a doctor to...
	Commit euthanasia or assisted suicide or mercy killing.
	How does that even work?
	How could you convince a man to implement something to kill another man?
	That doesn't make any sense.
	But they do it under the spirit of collectivism.
	So collectivism means the good of the mass versus individualism, the good of the individual.
	And they lied to us by implementing the Hippocratic Oath.
	Many, many decades ago to get us to believe in a document.
	These doctors have to sign the Hippocratic Oath.
	A doctor wrote me just last week.
	He said, Scott, I want to remind you, we never have had to sign the Hippocratic Oath.
	The Hippocratic Oath was put in place to get the population to believe we're following individualism when in fact we're following collectivism.
	So then what they do is they do training documents so that these guys' consciences get seared.
	And an example of a training document we found, well, my daughter Grace had Down syndrome.
	So, of course, you know, my research started with Down syndrome.
	One of the training documents we found with Down syndrome, and this spirit of collectivism has been going on way before Obamacare.
	And the excuse they use, Val, is, or Val, I'm sorry, is that it's It's financially impossible to maintain the system of Medicare and Medicaid.
	That's the excuse they use.
	Well, just think about how foolish that is.
	That's another lie. When did that lie start?
	Well, that started back when we started the fiat currency.
	So we don't have any balancing of budget even necessary anymore.
	So why do they even bring that up?
	Because people can't grasp the concept of a fiat currency.
	All right, so back to the training document I mentioned, and then I'll slow down.
	You got me pretty wound up with that question.
	So this training document is from the Palliative Care Network of Wisconsin.
	Jeff and I are from Wisconsin.
	Grace is from Wisconsin. So just put your state in here.
	This is written by two MDs.
	This is to train doctors and nurses about how to handle patients with Down syndrome.
	It's called palliative care for patients with Down syndrome.
	They don't say anything positive.
	They introduce Down syndrome as problem after problem after problem.
	So the first title is causes of morbidity and death and Down syndrome.
	So they list about 40 problems Down syndrome people can have.
	Sleep apnea, dental issues, cardiac septal defects, thyroid dysfunction, blah, blah, blah.
	So why do they list all those problems?
	Well, the reason they list those problems is they are setting up the doctor to use the excuse of collectivism to take this group of the population out.
	So their transition statement says this, the lifelong toll on families is high.
	So when you read that litany, if you don't know anything about people with Down syndrome, you think, oh my gosh, why would any family want somebody that has Down syndrome?
	These are just problems, right?
	So the lifelong toll on families is high.
	The lifelong toll on our family of having Grace was fantastic.
	She made us a better family.
	She made me a better dad.
	She just loved the way God intended.
	So then they say part of a robust plan of care includes acknowledgement of this toll by healthcare workers.
	So the healthcare workers are supposed to acknowledge that these families don't want the Down syndrome child.
	All right? So now they set the stage for the kill.
	I mean, this is right in the published document.
	It says, whenever possible, decision makers, that's the doctors, for people with Down syndrome should be encouraged to use substituted judgment, their judgment, to make key palliative care decisions.
	All efforts should be made to determine the preferences of the patient.
	However, because of lifelong cognitive impairment, the views of the person with Down syndrome may not be known.
	Just process that insanity.
	I know the view of every single person with Down syndrome on the entire planet.
	They want to live just like I want to live, just like you want to live them, and just like Jeff wants to live.
	Why does a Down syndrome...
	They talk nothing about the child's capacity to love, being a loving creature, nothing emotional.
	It's all detachment. And one thing I noticed, I mean, frankly, this is straight, like, Third Reich, Fourth Reich, whatever Nazi ideology.
	I mean, straight out of, like...
	Straight out of, like, literal, like, Hitler's teachings in Mein Kampf, getting rid of people that don't fit a certain level of perfection of the elite.
	So, Nazism, that's where we are with...
	That's because, so now you take it all the way back, then.
	That's because Hitler adopted our thinking.
	We invented this crap.
	We invented eugenics in the United States.
	Hitler adopted from us.
	And then we pulled the...
	The chief architect still working for Hitler through Operation Paperclip back in the United States.
	So that's why I can say this has been going on for decades.
	And when it's convenient to play on people's emotions and say, oh, look how bad Hitler is.
	He was killing people that were not in vision of his perfection, the Aryan perfect image in his eyes.
	I mean... They made him out to be a bad guy because of that.
	But our system is essentially using the same techniques.
	And as you're saying, we invented this stuff.
	Hitler was a hero. I mean, Charles Lindbergh loved Hitler.
	He went to Germany to visit him before all the deaths started happening.
	And this film, I'm glad you brought him up because there's a lot of films that are out there right now that deal with a piece of this overall problem.
	This Breaking the Oath is the only film that I'm aware of That brings us all together in a worldview.
	And we make direct parallels.
	We have Vera Sharab, who's a Holocaust survivor, is one of the guests on this program, this movie.
	And she makes direct parallels, seeing what's happening in America today and what was happening back when she was a little girl in Nazi Germany.
	And really, when you start comparing them...
	It's literally shocking because it wakes you up just in thinking about that and going down that path.
	So that's one of the things that the documentary, I mean, the guy that's behind me on the screen, he is more...
	I'm dangerous and a more evil person than Dr.
	Mengele was, who was famous for his experiments on twins and children.
	The difference, by the way, pause you right there because, you know, people are going to listen to that statement.
	Some people, and they're going to say, Oh, do you know, right wing conspiracy theorists and all that stuff, but the numbers alone, I mean, when you look at, you know, how many people were murdered in world war II, right.
	If you look at the gypsies and the Nazis and...
	About 12 million, just on the German side.
	So what we're looking at right now, according to a lot of these frontline doctors, is potentially up to a billion dead in the next 24 months.
	Keep in mind that Mengele, I mean, he had a very limited number of kids that he killed.
	And yes, he sent people to the gas chamber.
	But this guy that's behind me, Mengele looked people in the eye and did it.
	This guy doesn't care.
	Right now, there's 7 million deaths around the world in COVID and only going up.
	So what's the difference between those two?
	This guy, in my opinion, that's behind me is much worse.
	Yeah, yeah. It's just he's protected by the system.
	He's protected by the system.
	I mean, he is roaming around free and not get too political.
	But today, you know, we just heard that a certain former president was, you know, based upon no evidence is now found guilty for defaming somebody that he claims lied.
	And I mean, said that like...
	You know, he raped her.
	I mean, I don't want to bring that up because he's such a polarizing figure, but it just shows that in every industrial complex, including our legal fields, all the standards have disappeared.
	There's no standards in law.
	There's no standards in medicine, you know?
	Oaths are broken.
	I mean, just like the doctors are breaking their oats, the lawyers are breaking their oats.
	I mean, how far have we come as a country?
	And is there a way to repair this?
	Is there a way to make a U-turn?
	Who are you asking? Whoever wants to take the question.
	Go ahead, Scott.
	Well, I absolutely think there's a way to make a U-turn.
	God wrote it out in the Bible at the beginning.
	It's called repentance.
	And any other method other than repentance first will not accomplish the goal.
	Period. End of story.
	There's a lot of people promoting solutions right now, but they're man-made solutions.
	We got into this trouble because we rejected God and put man in place of God.
	So you can't have man-made solutions fix man-made problems.
	This is a God-sized problem, and the only way out of it is repentance.
	Otherwise, it's over. God has done this before, and He's going to do it again.
	When you say it's over, are we talking about something catastrophic, like, you know, I mean, that we've seen over and over again in the Bible, the wrath of God, so to speak, or are you talking about it's over, like our country's over, there's no future here?
	I think the wrath of God is at the doorstep if we don't repent.
	That's where I see it. I mean, I think we are clearly in the days of Noah.
	We have evil being called good.
	We have good being called evil.
	We have in the days of Noah, the Nephilim had infiltrated the entire population.
	So God had to eliminate the entire population other than Noah and his family in order to keep the seed pure so that Jesus could come.
	And so what is the goal of these elites?
	I mean, they have the sustainability agenda.
	Of course, we've got to manage the population.
	We've got to manage the planet.
	You know, that seems, you know, they're a wolf in sheep's clothing, of course, with that.
	But their real agenda is transhumanism.
	So transhumanism is really the same thing.
	We're not going to have any pure human seed.
	Mm-hmm. I make a point in the video and part of it that talks about the arrogance of people in general, but of Americans in particular.
	When we look back at those genocides that have occurred in the past, whether it's Mao in China or Lenin, Stalin, or Hitler, as we were discussing, we look back and we say, well, how did the people ever allow that to happen, right? And to me, that is the only thing that I need to add on to Scott's point about, can we turn it around?
	Well, we've got to stop tolerating stuff.
	Stop tolerating, you know, at your local level, stop tolerating this crap that they're trying to shove down your throats.
	And you don't have to be violent.
	You just pick up a document like the one I was talking to you about, and you get educated on it, and you push back on it.
	I'm going to put on this document, by the way.
	You're speaking about the grand jury evidence?
	Yeah, right. Yeah, I'm just going to flash this on screen.
	Could you talk a little bit about what this image is representing?
	So this is a document that originally I got from David Sorensen's StopTheWorld.com.
	It's an excellent website. This is a document that I think would be very beneficial for any viewer who's going to watch Breaking the Oath or anybody who just is shaking their head no and being skeptical about what we're talking about.
	This document shows you the history and it provides the proof that you need to really come to an understanding that what we're talking about is really happening.
	This document is the equivalent to Mein Kampf was.
	If only the Germans would have taken that seriously when he said he was going to kill all the Jews.
	This document shows that this whole situation that we find ourselves in today is deliberate, it's planned, and it's being executed.
	And the whole COVID thing, the vaccine, all that, they're just spiderweb strands and overall web that includes all kinds of other things, like the environmentalism and how crushing what they want to do to our societies in the name of environmental fascism,
	basically. So that document has 120 individual links that source everything that's said in there, and it's just indisputable.
	It's evidence, and you can go to the website, America First Productions, and go to Breaking the Oath, and you'll see, under Breaking the Oath, you'll see evidence, and you can download that document.
	Yep, yep. And we've done quite a few Blood Money episodes.
	For anybody out there that has even a smidgen of doubt, you should watch some of these doctors talk about what has happened to our population because it is without a doubt population controlled, it's Holocaust, genocide, Frankly, the worst genocide or holocaust in the history of humankind.
	There's never been numbers of this kind.
	I mean, we're talking about 7 million, but when you talk about all these people dying because of the jab, the buildup of spike proteins, you know, heart attacks creeping up a year, two, three years later, I mean, we're looking at, like, This is the biggest threat that mankind has ever had.
	This is global genocide.
	This isn't genocide in Nazi Germany.
	This isn't genocide in the Soviet Union.
	This is global genocide.
	And it's being done, and they'll tell you right in the documents of World Economic Forum, they say they want to get the population down to 500 million or less.
	It's also in the Guidestones in Georgia, if you've ever heard of the Guidestones.
	That's number one on their list, is maintain a population of 500 million people.
	So that means 7.5 billion of us.
	Yeah, seven and a half billion people.
	Wow. You know, Jeff, this hasn't been an easy process for you because while you've been making this documentary, I mean, you've had health issues.
	Can you tell us a little bit about the process of making this documentary and some of the challenges that you're dealing with just on a personal level to see it through?
	Well, you know, originally I was in corporate America, as I was talking to you before the show here.
	And in 2019, I got diagnosed with a disease called interstitial cystitis.
	It's a disease that, you know, 99% of the people that have it are female.
	So I'm the lucky 1% male who...
	All the treatments are not made for.
	And it's kind of like having a severe bladder infection all the time.
	So pain is a constant everyday thing for me.
	And that said, I still view that as a blessing because that was given to me by God so that I could do this.
	And that's the truth of it.
	This slowed me down.
	This really put me in a place where I got to decide what's important to me.
	And going through your midlife crisis like I was at 54 or 55, you're thinking, what's my legacy?
	Well, the legacy is freedom, and that's what everybody's legacy should be.
	Not only in America, but we've got to go back to the individual, as Scott was talking about, the individual liberty.
	And they're trying to take that away from everybody right now.
	It's your children.
	They're taking your children away.
	Going on the gender transformation behind your back and all this stuff that's going on.
	Really, it's been a privilege.
	It's been an honor for me to not only do this documentary, but to do my show.
	I've met so many wonderful people.
	My advice would be, no matter what your challenges are, Decide what you're good at.
	Decide what you can contribute and do it.
	We gotta have this legacy of freedom.
	That's what we have to do.
	I mean, what makes you compelled to become part of this movement?
	Is it just your fight to freedom?
	I mean, what is it about this that makes this the most crucial fight?
	Well, I fully believe in the idea of America.
	And if you have children, you know, when you put your head on your pillow at night, the last thing that you want to think of is, my kids are going to be enslaved.
	And they're going to have terrible, miserable lives because some elitist Nazi...
	Nazi, exactly.
	Thinks that they know better.
	So that's my motivation.
	I just really believe that people should be free.
	They should be able to pursue their dreams.
	They should pursue happiness, right?
	The pursuit of happiness. It's just our government needs to, pardon me, get the hell out of the way and let people pursue their happiness.
	Yeah, Scott, so who are you before all this happened and how would you describe yourself now?
	Well, I was a business owner that worked way too many hours.
	I was motivated to have the business survive my death so that it would take care of my daughter, Grace, and my wife, Cindy, after I was gone.
	So I've been a business owner for over 30 years.
	Thank God I developed heart disease about six years ago.
	I was diagnosed with that.
	It took a long time to get it to that point.
	Then, six years ago, I started training my guys to run the business.
	Now, the transition was fairly easy.
	I am doing this full-time.
	I've become a full-time advocate researcher.
	God knew that it was going to be Put a fire in my belly to do this.
	And he set this up six years prior so that my guys can run the business and the business can take care of this project that we're working on.
	You know, this project is this whole thing.
	We have 18 billboards up.
	We filed a lawsuit.
	You know, all of that takes a fair amount of cash flow to be able to Do all that.
	But, you know, that's what I do now.
	So before I would have said I would I describe myself as a businessman who had a healthy I was a conservative with a healthy distrust for the government.
	Now I would say that I am an advocate and I completely think our government is totally corrupt both parties.
	I think they're all in on it.
	And I think that The only way out of this is for people to wake up.
	Think through how easy, like Jeff said, if people just stood.
	So when they demanded masks, if everybody said, screw it, we're not wearing masks, it would have been over.
	But no, they didn't.
	And then when people were told you had to get the jab to keep their job, say, no, we're not doing that.
	That would have been over. You have to wear a mask to get on an airplane.
	No, we're not doing it. I mean, it would have shut the airlines down.
	So then they would have had to retreat from these crazy, draconian positions.
	But they saw how easy it was to take the masses by far.
	I mean, the masses agreed with all this.
	You know, this crazy shot.
	Think through that. Right now, anybody can read the Brooke Jackson filing.
	Brooke Jackson filed the False Claims Act against Pfizer.
	Read it. It says it was never a vaccine.
	But then our government, so you read that document, then you see they're still promoting the, you know, whatever, the 18th jab.
	You have Chelsea Clinton as of two days ago.
	Going out there and saying that every child every baby should be vaccinated when they know this kills children.
	I mean, how can you look at them and say you're not a pile of evil crap when she has access to this information, but she is essentially promoting the manslaughter, the murder of children.
	At least that's the way I look at it.
	Well, they're in the practice of using fear, which is, again, one of the key tools that has been used throughout history.
	And that's, to Scott's point, that's how they got people to take the jab.
	It's how they got people to wear the mask.
	Nobody, my background in corporate America was safety and environmental compliance.
	So I knew it was complete nonsense that you put a cotton weave mask that's 80 micron holes in it for a 60 micron, you know, virus.
	It's so stupid.
	Yeah, yeah. I used to tell people, hey, next time you have to go to the bathroom and sit on the throne, put a mask on, see if you can still smell it.
	It's funny because that was a big joke.
	Like a guy I knew went around farting around people and being like, could you smell that?
	Well, your mask doesn't work because my fart particles are a lot smaller than the COVID particles.
	Exactly. Exactly.
	Yeah. Yeah. You know, Scott, like if I told you 10 years ago that our government would be conspiring to murder 95% of us, what would you have told me?
	Yeah, that's a fantastic question.
	I was literally thinking about that this morning.
	What if somebody told me this 10 years ago?
	I would not have believed them.
	However, and this is why a research component of my advocacy is a big deal, because I'm analytical, and if they would have shown me documents, They would have convinced me.
	They wouldn't have convinced me with their testimony because, you know, unless I trusted them, you know, then they could have convinced me with their testimony.
	But show me the documents.
	Show me the evidence. And that's why I like to show evidence whenever I'm talking because that's the tool that convinces me.
	And when you see something like that, the Brooke Jackson documents, Section 1553 of Obamacare, You know, the palliative care training for Down syndrome kids.
	You see these things in writing and it's like, I mean, it's there and it's plain to read.
	You don't have to even interpret.
	Yeah, unbelievable stuff, unbelievable stuff.
	I mean, I just think to myself, you know, when you talk about these agendas and, you know, eugenics and all that, you know, something like 60 million black kids have been aborted.
	Not jumping to the, you know, topic of abortion, but it's similar because they're talking about similar depopulation agendas.
	And you wonder, you know, how many Martin Luther Kings were in there, you know?
	How many wonderful, intelligent people?
	It's like these outliers that you least expect that rise up to the challenge and become leaders and great people, right?
	And how many of those did we lose because of this wholesale corruption?
	Because essentially, this agenda to murder massive portions of the population.
	Jeff, what are your hopes for the documentary?
	I mean, what happens next?
	I think you were saying that on May 22nd, you have your premiere.
	May 21st, we have a private event theater premiere.
	May 22nd is the public release.
	May 22nd is also the release of a director's edition version that has more footage and back behind the scenes stuff.
	My hope for this is that it's impactful and that it convinces people to do their own studying and that they listen to what Scott just said and look at that evidence and decide for themselves That they need to stop worrying about the small things in life, as people say, the first world problems, because we have a lot bigger problems right now, and everybody needs to step up and do their part in it.
	The last thing I'll say about the documentary is that there are 43 other families that That their loved one died in a similar manner to how Grace died.
	And my opinion of that is that they were murdered.
	And when you go through the film and you watch the film and at the end, You brought a great point with how many Martin Luther Kings were there.
	Every one of those individuals has a story.
	Every one of those individuals has a story.
	And their families and their friends, just the heartbreak that has gone around the world because of these people, it should infuriate every decent person on the planet.
	Yep, yep. The enemy is within.
	I mean, enough talking about Hitlers and Stalins when the Hitlers and Stalins are here today right now in action and never again is complete BS because look how easy it is.
	I mean, think about it this way.
	It's like this was a virus that doesn't even do that much damage.
	What happens when something truly damaging comes?
	In a way, a lot of people, you know, assume that this was just a testing ground.
	Let's see how this kind of relatively benign virus, and I'm talking in regards to COVID-19, let's see what that does to the people.
	And then what happens when something that actually kills 5% of the population comes out?
	I mean, it's really scary stuff how easy it is to have people give up their freedoms.
	You know, we saw with the Patriot Act.
	We're seeing it right now. Is there anything in closing, Scott and Jeff, that we didn't talk about that you'd want to mention or discuss?
	I wouldn't mind just framing the film as far as how I see it.
	This film exposes one tentacle Of the antichrist beast system.
	So we're in the antichrist beast system.
	I mean, that's what we're in. That means that Satan is the prince of this world, which we know.
	And his minions have convinced us to rely on pharmaceuticals and the white coats instead of God to heal our bodies.
	Remember, I'm in the hospital murder lane.
	And so that's why I'm talking about this.
	And they even invented, like I said earlier, the Hippocratic Oath to further entrench the lie.
	And now the trap has been set.
	I see that COVID was a diversion for the bigger trap, you know, the bigger evil trap.
	But then, you know, is there something else coming?
	Well, the book of Revelation says a second beast system is coming that replaces the first beast system.
	And that's the false prophet system.
	And remember, this is a battle for souls.
	So Satan doesn't care if he looks evil on one side or if he looks good as an angel of light on the other side.
	Every chance I get, I want to frame what we're doing in that light.
	So we're definitely exposing evil with this film.
	But if we only expose evil, we miss the mark.
	Because we also have to share what God's plan is.
	And God has a plan to Rectify evil through repentance and through His Son, Jesus Christ.
	And that always has to be said.
	Otherwise, we're just contributing to the next level if all we're doing is exposing evil.
	We're shining God's light on evil is what we're doing.
	Exactly, exactly.
	And evil has a lot harder time surviving in the light than it does in the darkness.
	Jeff, any last words?
	Yeah, just in closing, I would say, you know, people can, on the 21st or 22nd, they can go to americafirstproductions.com.
	They can see the documentary there for free.
	The release will also be on the Patriot Review sites, so all the social media, the rumbles and all those.
	And then... I would like to say, too, that there is a positive story in this as well, and that is, you know, what you can do for your families.
	And there's an example in there in the documentary.
	I won't give it away, but if you want to know how to fight back, that's part of the documentary as well.
	It's not all just gloom and doom.
	Um, you know, so, so that, that part of it, Scott mentioned, you know, that's an important piece of it and we need to remember that there's good things.
	I have, the last thing I'll say is I have this, uh, saying that I share with my viewers and that is remember the ripple.
	And what I mean, what I mean by that is for all of you out there who just don't think that you can contribute to fighting this evil, you generally don't know the positive effects that your actions have.
	Just keep that in mind.
	Even if you do something really small, it's still positive.
	It still makes a difference.
	Like a butterfly effect.
	I mean, you might tell somebody something, that person tells somebody else, and you save a life without even knowing it, without even knowing it, because you don't know what happened to that truth, that word that you put out.
	You know, gentlemen, amazing work.
	Jeff, is there a way for people to donate to you, by the way?
	Because you're obviously doing this stuff for free.
	I mean, you're giving out the documentary for free.
	Is there a way for people to help you out?
	People can purchase the Director's Edition.
	If they use America First, America No.
	1 ST, they get $10 off.
	So check that out.
	And I have a donate button on both redbloodedpatriots.com, which is my Patriot Review Show website, and then America First Productions, which is on the bottom of the screen there.
	I'd appreciate anything anyone can give, and if anybody has ideas for following up and really exposing more of this stuff, I'm always open to helping people out as well.
	Jeff, didn't you also tell me that if anybody wants to contribute more than $500,000, they're supposed to do that by wire transfer?
	Yeah, right.
	I don't recall thinking that big, Scott, but I need to do that.
	Well, I mean, for the viewers, you know, this is the way we're going to get out of this mess, right?
	I mean, we saw how networks that are run due to pharmaceutical finances with these corrupted industrial complexes, I mean, they will tell you lies that literally result in the death and destruction of your family.
	And I know what happened to Scott wasn't necessarily because of these COVID jabs, but Like he was saying, this has been going on for decades.
	We just found out about it because it happened on such an industrial level to the mass population of this world, right?
	And so the way we beat this corruption is by supporting people like Jeff, and frankly, you know, supporting people like America happens, what we do over here with the Blood Money podcast, because that's the way the truth is going to come out.
	And so kindly, if you could afford it, please consider donating to Jeff.
	Please consider supporting this very worthy cause.
	And I thank you, gentlemen, for showing up to this Blood Money podcast.
	Thank you so much. And thank you so much, Scott, for coming out and telling your story.
	About what happened to your beautiful daughter.
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	My daughter was killed by the hospital Killing Fields and we made a movie about this evil conspiracy to kill our children.
	Alright, so we're on the latest episode of Blood Money with two very special guests.
	Jeff Wagner and Scott Shara.
	Did I get that right?
	You got it. Alright, cool.
	How you guys doing? Wonderful.
	So let's just dive right into it.
	Jeff, if you don't mind quickly introducing yourself, what you're doing and what capacity you work with Scott.
	Sure. So I am the host of a show called The Patriot Review, which is on frankspeech.com and rightamericamedia.com and all your typical stream sites, streaming sites.
	And back in 2022, I had Scott on that show.
	To talk about what happened to his family and his daughter, Grace.
	And since then, I've attended some of the rallies that he has had.
	And Scott asked me to actually help him and work on this documentary, telling the story.
	And since the time we originally began it, the project has really ballooned.
	And it's become, I think, much larger than what we both first anticipated.
	So we're excited about it.
	Is it okay, Scott, before I have you speak a little bit about yourself, is it okay if I just play the preview of the documentary that just Jeff has been working on about your daughter?
	After we watched our daughter, Grace, die on FaceTime, I immediately felt that I needed to go to the hospital, though I was still pretty sick.
	Bye.
	And I met Jessica and our pastor there.
	And while we were in the room, Jessica and I just spent a few moments just with Grace alone.
	It was just a horrific sight to come upon. It was like our daughter Grace was now gone.
	The emotions that came over the top of our minds and just our physical bodies were just unbelief.
	We took her BiPAP off because it was still on.
	This was her hope and prayers that somehow she wasn't really gone.
	As soon as we did that, the color of grace changed.
	We had to accept that she was truly gone.
	Not one person stepped foot in that room.
	How can you do that?
	How can you allow an innocent person, a child, she's only 19 years old, die in front of your eyes?
	You don't do that.
	If you're human, you don't do that.
	♪♪ They knew they weren't going to convince us to put Grace on a ventilator.
	That means the money was going to dry up.
	They had to have the money.
	And when you follow the money trail all the way through, you see that a ventilator is about a $300,000 decision.
	That they had higher paying patients in the emergency room.
	Graces were more dead than alive.
	The End.
	Wow, wow, that's incredibly powerful.
	I mean, if I could have a word before you talk, Scott, about this documentary.
	I mean, it seems as though having done, you know, we're up to 88 episodes of this podcast, Blood Money, and And we consistently expose stories about conspiracies, controversies, and corruption.
	And it seems as though all of our industrial complexes in the United States, not just the medical industrial complex, but all of our industrial complexes, are really geared towards the destruction of people.
	Over a financial amount.
	Now, in this preview, we talked about the ventilators, how this child was worth more to the system dead than alive because of the $300,000 incentive.
	Then you look at organizations like CPS, our family law industry, where literal Price amounts are put on the destruction of children, that this institutionalized destruction of children actually makes these court systems a lot of money.
	And I just see essentially an entire variety of industrial complexes that are geared towards our destruction.
	And I just wanted to make that point because watching a very powerful preview about what happened to Grace, I'm sad to say, but it's happening across our industrial complexes on an industrial level now.
	So anyway, excuse that rant, but I just felt like I had to make that point.
	Scott, you know, tell us, introduce yourself.
	Tell us a little bit about what happened to you and your family.
	I'm having a hard time hearing you.
	I wonder if I should go out and come back in.
	You're frozen right now.
	Oh, I am? Okay, okay.
	Jeff, are you experiencing the same issue?
	No, both you guys are good.
	All of a sudden you just opened up again.
	Okay. So I did hear what you said about the medical industrial complex.
	I mean, no doubt that that's true.
	And it's way bigger, of course, as you noted, other than it's infiltrated all of our society.
	We've been programmed to believe things that are complete lies.
	And, you know, it starts with the American dream that we're free.
	Well, we're not free at all.
	I didn't know any of this until Grace died.
	I've become awake. Jeff met me as I was waking up.
	I don't know that anybody can be totally awake.
	He's right on. This project got substantially bigger.
	It's because Grace's story has got so big.
	I've been on about 500 interviews now.
	We filed a lawsuit on April 11th, the first of its kind.
	The story has gotten so big.
	The documentary expanded because of all the different people that I've met Through this process of sharing the story.
	I'm humbled to be used like this.
	I can hardly believe it's happening in our country.
	People who are not awake have a hard time believing what we have to say.
	You know, for the last three years, I know that our group has been going to great extent to let people know what's been going on, especially since this COVID jab started.
	And that seems to have been You know, part of this depopulation agenda from, you know, after having spoken to 20 something frontline doctors, they all say the same thing, that this jab is destructive and people's eyes are starting to open.
	And what we're noticing is that now that people on a wholesale level are feeling sick, they're going through their nine to fives, not feeling themselves, having noticeable damage to their health, people are starting to open their eyes and they're becoming curious about this.
	And it seems as though You, through your experiences with what happened to Grace, went through this eye-opening experience as well.
	I mean, what did it feel like to realize that in our country, people are actually incentivized to cause damage to the population for financial gain?
	A lot of the points took me a couple of weeks just to percolate through my head.
	And now that I am on the other side of it, what it feels like is interestingly different because what I see now that I am doing this full time is that most of the people who are in this movement, I don't think they believe how bad it really is.
	You know, they seem to be...
	Certainly on the medical freedom side of the scale, but this is terrible.
	I'm in the hospital murder lane, to be blunt.
	That lane has not been exposed yet.
	This film exposes that lane.
	Hardly anybody knows that this is even happening.
	This has been happening for decades.
	That's what I've uncovered.
	This has nothing to do with COVID. This agenda has been around for a long, long time.
	And as Jeff is very well aware, I mean, it got codified with Obamacare on March 23rd of 2010.
	You know, nobody reads Obamacare, but I challenge anybody listening to pull it up.
	Google Obamacare or brave it, whatever you want.
	It's 974 pages long.
	Read section 1553, which is page 141.
	Read it. It will change your life because all of a sudden you'll see that we were the first.
	We're always the first. Our country is always the first with evil.
	And then we point our finger to everybody else.
	We project sin like no other country in the world.
	We are those naughty Canadians with their medical assistance in dying program.
	We had medical assistance in dying way before the Canadians.
	We invented it. And we codified it in Obamacare.
	And it's right there for the review.
	When you read that page, it changes your whole view because you realize they put it in writing and are implementing it and have been implementing it for decades.
	My daughter was taken out because of that agenda, not because of COVID. Right?
	Wow. And if I could just step in just a second here, the whole euthanasia movement, that was a big thing in the 1920s and 30s.
	It was huge. There were a lot of famous people.
	And I have a clip of Bernard Shaw or...
	George Bernard Shaw, who was a playwright, right?
	And he's talking about how if people are useless, they should be terminated.
	They don't need to exist if they're not contributing.
	Who determines that?
	That's the problem. Do you remember the meetings that they had publicly about Obamacare?
	And the Republicans around the table were saying they're going to have death committees, right?
	They're going to have... These boards that decide who lives and dies based on their value.
	And of course, everybody shunned those folks and laughed at them.
	But here we are today in the exact situation that they were warning about.
	Wow, wow. Now, you said, Scott, you said that this has been going on for years.
	I mean, it's definitely become very apparent with the killing fields, the hospital killing fields of COVID-19.
	How, you know, remdesivir, all the different systems that ultimately resulted in death for so many.
	I mean, it's become very clear.
	But what do you mean when you say it's been going on for decades?
	Could you please elaborate?
	As to what's been going on for decades in regards to the hospital killing fields.
	So if you just process this just in terms of Obamacare.
	So that's decades just with Obamacare.
	So we'll start with that and then we can go backwards.
	So Obamacare was put into law March 23rd of 2010.
	The impetus behind Obamacare was euthanasia.
	In fact, The chief architect of Obamacare was Ezekiel Emanuel.
	In 1996, he said, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed.
	So that is all of us some...
	We'll be non-participating citizens.
	And when that day arrives, whatever for us to decide, because there's people smarter than us that get to decide that.
	Of course, I'm saying that tongue-in-cheek.
	Then, once we become non-participating citizens, we don't deserve healthcare.
	Okay? So, you start with that.
	So, that man is the key architect of Obamacare.
	So, it's no surprising that page 141, section 1553 documents The euthanasia, mercy killing, and assisted suicide.
	It's right in the document.
	It says that is how they're going to kill us.
	So it's no surprise that that's in there.
	Okay, so then let's go back further.
	How can you convince a doctor to...
	Commit euthanasia or assisted suicide or mercy killing.
	How does that even work?
	How could you convince a man to implement something to kill another man?
	That doesn't make any sense.
	But they do it under the spirit of collectivism.
	So collectivism means the good of the mass versus individualism, the good of the individual.
	And they lied to us by implementing the Hippocratic Oath.
	Many, many decades ago to get us to believe in a document.
	These doctors have to sign the Hippocratic Oath.
	A doctor wrote me just last week.
	He said, Scott, I want to remind you, we never have had to sign the Hippocratic Oath.
	The Hippocratic Oath was put in place to get the population to believe we're following individualism when in fact we're following collectivism.
	So then what they do is they do training documents so that these guys' consciences get seared.
	And an example of a training document we found, my daughter Grace had Down syndrome.
	So, of course, my research started with Down syndrome.
	One of the training documents we found with Down syndrome, and this spirit of collectivism has been going on way before Obamacare.
	And the excuse they use, Val, I'm sorry, is that it's It's financially impossible to maintain the system of Medicare and Medicaid.
	That's the excuse they use.
	Well, just think about how foolish that is.
	That's another lie. So when did that lie start?
	Well, that started back when we started the fiat currency.
	So we don't have any balancing of budget even necessary anymore.
	So why do they even bring that up?
	Because people can't grasp the concept of a fiat currency.
	All right, so back to the training document I mentioned, and then I'll slow down.
	You got me pretty wound up with that question.
	So this training document is from the Palliative Care Network of Wisconsin.
	Jeff and I are from Wisconsin.
	Grace is from Wisconsin. So just put your state in here.
	This is written by two MDs.
	This is to train doctors and nurses about how to handle patients with Down syndrome.
	It's called palliative care for patients with Down syndrome.
	They don't say anything positive.
	They introduce Down syndrome as problem after problem after problem.
	So the first title is causes of morbidity and death and Down syndrome.
	So they list about 40 problems Down syndrome people can have.
	Sleep apnea, dental issues, cardiac septal defects, thyroid dysfunction, blah, blah, blah.
	So why do they list all those problems?
	Well, the reason they list those problems is they are setting up the doctor to use the excuse of collectivism to take this group of the population out.
	So their transition statement says this, the lifelong toll on families is high.
	So when you read that litany, if you don't know anything about people with Down syndrome, you think, oh my gosh.
	Mm-hmm.
	Mm-hmm.
	Because she just loved the way God intended.
	So then they say, part of a robust plan of care includes acknowledgement of this toll by healthcare workers.
	So the healthcare workers are supposed to acknowledge that these families don't want the Down syndrome child.
	All right? So now they set the stage for the kill.
	I mean, this is right in the published document.
	It says whenever possible, decision makers, that's the doctors, for people with Down syndrome should be encouraged to use substituted judgment, their judgment, to make key palliative care decisions.
	All efforts should be made to determine the preferences of the patient.
	However, because of lifelong cognitive impairment, the views of the person with Down syndrome may not be known.
	Just process that insanity.
	I know the view of every single person with Down syndrome on the entire planet.
	They want to live just like I want to live, just like you want to live them, and just like Jeff wants to live.
	Why does a Down syndrome...
	They talk nothing about the child's capacity to love, being a loving creature, nothing emotional.
	It's all detachment. And one thing I noticed, I mean, frankly, this is straight, like, Third Reich, Fourth Reich, whatever Nazi ideology.
	I mean, straight out of, like, straight out of, like, literal, like, Hitler's teachings in Mein Kampf, getting rid of people that don't fit a certain level of perfection of the elite.
	So Nazism, that's where we are with...
	That's because, so now you take it all the way back then.
	That's because Hitler adopted our thinking.
	We invented this crap.
	We invented eugenics in the United States.
	Hitler adopted from us.
	And then we pulled the chief architect still working for Hitler through Operation Paperclip back in the United States.
	So that's why I can say this has been going on for decades.
	And when it's convenient to play on people's emotions and say, oh, look how bad Hitler is.
	He was killing people that were not in vision of his perfection, the Aryan perfect image in his eyes.
	I mean, they made him out to be a bad guy because of that.
	But our system is essentially using the same techniques.
	And as you're saying, we invented this stuff.
	Hitler was a hero. I mean, Charles Lindbergh loved Hitler.
	He went to Germany to visit him before all the deaths started happening.
	And this film, I'm glad you brought him up because there's a lot of films that are out there right now that deal with a piece of this overall problem.
	This Breaking the Oath is the only film that I'm aware of that brings us all together in a worldview.
	And we make direct parallels.
	We have Vera Sharab, who's a Holocaust survivor, is one of the guests on this program, this movie.
	And she makes direct parallels, seeing what's happening in America today and what was happening back when she was a little girl in Nazi Germany.
	And really, when you start comparing them...
	It's literally shocking because it wakes you up just in thinking about that and going down that path.
	So that's one of the things that the documentary, I mean, the guy that's behind me on the screen, he is more...
	He's dangerous and a more evil person than Dr.
	Mengele was, who was famous for his experiments on twins and children.
	By the way, do you mind if I pause you right there?
	Because people are going to listen to that statement, some people, and they're going to say, oh, right-wing conspiracy theorists and all that stuff.
	But the numbers alone, I mean, when you look at how many people were murdered in World War II, right?
	If you look at the gypsies and the Nazis and...
	12 million. So what we're looking at right now, according to a lot of these frontline doctors, is potentially up to a billion.
	Keep in mind that Mengele, I mean, he had a very limited number of kids that he killed.
	And yes, he sent people to the gas chamber.
	But this guy that's behind me, Mengla looked people in the eye and did it.
	This guy doesn't care.
	Right now there's 7 million deaths around the world in COVID and only going up.
	So what's the difference between those two?
	This guy, in my opinion, that's behind me is much worse.
	Yeah, yeah. It's just he's protected by the system.
	He's protected by the system.
	I mean, he is roaming around free and not get too political.
	But today, you know, we just heard that a certain former president was, you know, based upon no evidence is now found guilty for defaming somebody that he claims lied and said that like You know, he raped her.
	I mean, I don't want to bring that up because he's such a polarizing figure, but it just shows that in every industrial complex, including our legal fields, all the standards have disappeared.
	There's no standards in law.
	There's no standards in medicine, you know?
	Oaths are broken.
	I mean, just like the doctors are breaking their oaths, the lawyers are breaking their oaths.
	I mean, how far have we come as a country?
	And is there a way to repair this?
	Is there a way to make a U-turn?
	Who are you asking? Whoever wants to take the question.
	Go ahead, Scott.
	Well, I absolutely think there's a way to make a U-turn.
	God wrote it out in the Bible at the beginning.
	It's called repentance.
	And any other method other than repentance first will not accomplish the goal.
	Period. End of story.
	There's a lot of people promoting solutions right now, but they're man-made solutions.
	We got into this trouble because we rejected God and put man in place of God.
	So you can't have man-made solutions fix man-made problems.
	This is a God-sized problem, and the only way out of it is repentance.
	Otherwise, it's over. God has done this before, and He's going to do it again.
	When you say it's over, are we talking about something catastrophic that we've seen over and over again in the Bible, the wrath of God, so to speak?
	Or are you talking about it's over, like our country's over, there's no future here?
	I think the wrath of God is at the doorstep if we don't repent.
	That's where I see it. I think we are clearly in the days of Noah.
	We have evil being called good.
	We have good being called evil.
	In the days of Noah, the Nephilim had infiltrated the Entire population.
	So God had to eliminate the entire population other than Noah and his family in order to keep the seed pure so that Jesus could come.
	And so what is the goal of these elites?
	I mean, they have the sustainability agenda.
	Of course, we've got to manage the population.
	We've got to manage the planet.
	You know, that seems, you know, they're a wolf in sheep's clothing, of course, with that.
	But their real agenda is transhumanism.
	So transhumanism is really the same thing.
	We're not going to have any pure human seed.
	I make a point in the video and part of it that talks about the arrogance of...
	general, but of Americans in particular, when we look back at those genocides that have occurred in the past, whether it's Mao in China or Lenin Stalin or, you know, Hitler as we were discussing, we look back and we say, well, how did the people ever allow that to happen, right? And to me, that is the only thing that I need to add on to Scott's point about can we turn it around.
	Well, we've got to stop tolerating stuff.
	Stop tolerating at your local level.
	Stop tolerating this crap that they're trying to shove down your throats.
	And you don't have to be violent.
	You just pick up a document like the one I was talking to you about and you get educated on it and you push back on it.
	I'm going to put on this document, by the way.
	You're speaking about the grand jury evidence?
	Yeah, right. Yeah, I'm just going to flash this on screen.
	Could you talk a little bit about what this image is representing?
	So this is a document that originally I got from David Sorensen's StopTheWorld.com.
	It's an excellent website. This is a document that I think would be very beneficial for any viewer who's going to watch Breaking the Oath or anybody who just is shaking their head no and being skeptical about what we're talking about.
	This document shows you the history and it provides the proof that you need to really come to an understanding that what we're talking about is really happening.
	This document is the equivalent to Mein Kampf was.
	If only the Germans would have taken that seriously when he said he was going to kill all the Jews.
	This document shows that this whole situation that we find ourselves in today is deliberate, it's planned, and it's being executed.
	And the whole COVID thing, the vaccine, all that, they're just spiderweb strands and overall web that includes all kinds of other things, like the environmentalism and how crushing what they want to do to our societies in the name of environmental fascism,
	basically. So that document has 120 individual links that source everything that's said in there, and it's just indisputable.
	It's evidence, and you can go to the website, America First Productions, and go to Breaking the Oath, and you'll see, under Breaking the Oath, you'll see evidence, and you can download that document.
	Yep yep and we've done quite a few blood money episodes for anybody out there that has even a smidgen of doubt you should watch some of these doctors talk about what has happened to our population because it is without a doubt population controlled it's holocaust genocide frankly the worst genocide or holocaust in the history of humankind there's never been numbers of this kind of me we're talking about seven million but when you talk about All these people dying because of the jab,
	the buildup of spike proteins, you know, heart attacks creeping up a year, two, three years later.
	I mean, we're looking at like a billion plus.
	This is the biggest threat that mankind has ever had.
	This is global genocide.
	This isn't genocide in Nazi Germany.
	This isn't genocide in the Soviet Union.
	This is global genocide.
	And it's being done, and they'll tell you right in the documents of World Economic Forum, they say they want to get the population down to 500 million or less.
	It's also in the Guidestones in Georgia, if you've ever heard of the Guidestones.
	That's number one on their list, is maintain a population of 500 million people.
	Seven and a half billion of us.
	Yeah. Seven and a half billion people.
	Wow. You know, Jeff, this hasn't been an easy process for you because while you've been making this documentary, I mean, you've had health issues.
	Can you tell us a little bit about the process of making this documentary and some of the challenges that you're dealing with just on a personal level to see it through?
	Well, you know, originally I was in corporate America as I was talking to you before the show here.
	And in 2019, I got diagnosed with a disease called interstitial cystitis.
	It's a disease that, you know, 99% of the people that have it are female.
	So I'm the lucky 1% male who...
	All the treatments are not made for.
	And it's kind of like having a severe bladder infection all the time.
	So pain is a constant everyday thing for me.
	And that said, I still view that as a blessing because that was given to me by God so that I could do this.
	And that's the truth of it.
	This slowed me down.
	This really put me in a place where I got to decide what's important to me.
	And going through your midlife crisis like I was at 54 or 55, you're thinking, what's my legacy?
	Well, the legacy is freedom, and that's what everybody's legacy should be.
	Not only in America, but we've got to go back to the individual, as Scott was talking about, the individual liberty.
	And they're trying to take that away from everybody right now.
	It's your children.
	They're taking your children away.
	Going on the gender transformation behind your back and all this stuff that's going on.
	So really, it's been a privilege.
	It's been an honor for me to not only do this documentary, but to do my show.
	I've met so many wonderful people.
	And my advice would be, no matter what your challenges are, Decide what you're good at.
	Decide what you can contribute and do it.
	We gotta have this legacy of freedom.
	That's what we have to do.
	I mean, what makes you compelled to become part of this movement?
	Is it just your fight to freedom?
	I mean, what is it about this that makes this the most crucial fight?
	Well, I fully believe in the idea of America.
	And if you have children, when you put your head on your pillow at night, the last thing that you want to think of is, my kids are going to be enslaved.
	And they're going to have terrible, miserable lives because some elitist Nazi...
	Nazi, exactly.
	Thinks that they know better.
	So that's my motivation.
	I just really believe that people should be free.
	They should be able to pursue their dreams.
	They should pursue happiness, right?
	The pursuit of happiness. It's just our government needs to, pardon me, get the hell out of the way and let people pursue their happiness.
	Yeah yeah Scott so who are you before all this happened and how would you describe yourself now?
	Well, I was a business owner that worked way too many hours.
	I was motivated to have the business survive my death so that it would take care of my daughter, Grace, and my wife, Cindy, after I was gone.
	I've been a business owner for over 30 years.
	Thank God I developed heart disease about six years ago.
	I was diagnosed with that.
	It took a long time to get it to that point.
	Then, six years ago, I started training my guys to run the business.
	Now, the transition was fairly easy.
	I am doing this full-time.
	I've become a full-time advocate researcher.
	God knew that it was going to be I put a fire in my belly to do this.
	And he set this up six years prior so that my guys can run the business and the business can take care of this project that we're working on.
	You know, this project is this whole thing.
	We have 18 billboards up.
	We're filed a lawsuit.
	You know, all of that takes a fair amount of cash flow to be able to do all that.
	But, you know, that's what I do now.
	So before, I would have said I would describe myself as a businessman.
	I was a conservative with a healthy distrust for the government.
	Now I would say that I'm an advocate and I completely think our government is totally corrupt.
	Both parties, I think they're all in on it.
	The only way out of this is for people to wake up.
	Think through how easy, like Jeff said, if people just stood.
	So when they demanded masks, if everybody said, screw it, we're not wearing masks, it would have been over.
	But no, they didn't.
	And then when people were told that you had to get the jab to keep their job, say, no, we're not doing that.
	That would have been over. You have to wear a mask to get on an airplane.
	No, we're not doing that. I mean, it would have shut the airlines down.
	So then they would have had to retreat from these crazy, draconian positions.
	But they saw how easy it was to take, you know, the masses by far.
	I mean, the masses agreed with all this.
	You know, this crazy shot.
	Think through that.
	Right now, anybody can read the Brooke Jackson filing.
	Brooke Jackson filed the False Claims Act against Pfizer.
	Read it. It says it was never a vaccine.
	But then our government, so you read that document, then you see they're still promoting vaccines.
	You know, whatever, the 18th jab.
	You have Chelsea Clinton as of two days ago going out there and saying that every child, every baby should be vaccinated when they know this kills children.
	How can you look at them and say you're not a pile of evil crap when she has access to this information, but she is essentially promoting the manslaughter, the murder of children.
	At least that's the way I look at it.
	They're in the practice of using fear, which is, again, one of the key tools that has been used throughout history.
	And that's, to Scott's point, that's how they got people to take the jab.
	It's how they got people to wear the mask.
	Nobody, my background in corporate America was safety and environmental compliance.
	So I knew it was complete nonsense that you put a cotton weave mask that's 80 micron holes in it, or a 60 micron, you know, virus.
	It's so stupid.
	Yeah, yeah. I used to tell people, hey, next time you have to go to the bathroom and sit on the throne, put a mask on, see if you can still smell.
	It's funny because that was a big joke.
	Like a guy I knew went around farting around people and being like, could you smell that?
	Well, your mask doesn't work because my fart particles are a lot smaller than the COVID particles.
	Exactly. Exactly.
	Yeah. Yeah. You know, Scott, if I told you 10 years ago that our government would be conspiring to murder 95% of us, what would you have told me?
	Yeah, that's a fantastic question.
	I was literally thinking about that this morning.
	What if somebody told me this 10 years ago?
	I would not have believed them.
	However, and this is why a research component of my advocacy is a big deal, because I'm analytical, and if they would have shown me documents, they would have convinced me.
	They wouldn't have convinced me with their testimony.
	Because, you know, unless I trusted them, you know, then they could have convinced me with their testimony.
	But show me the documents.
	Show me the evidence. And that's why I like to show evidence whenever I'm talking because that's the tool that convinces me.
	And when you see something like that, the Brooke Jackson documents, Section 1553 of Obamacare, you know, the palliative care training for Down Syndrome kids, you see these things in writing and it's like, I mean, It's there.
	And it's plain to read.
	You don't have to even interpret.
	Yeah. Unbelievable stuff.
	Unbelievable stuff. I mean, I just think to myself, you know, when you talk about these agendas and, you know, eugenics and all that, you know, something like 60 million black kids have been aborted.
	Not jumping to the topic of abortion, but it's similar because they're talking about similar depopulation agendas.
	And you wonder, you know, how many Martin Luther Kings were in there, you know?
	How many wonderful, intelligent people?
	It's like these outliers that you least expect that rise up to the challenge and become leaders and great people, right?
	And how many of those did we lose because of this wholesale corruption?
	Because essentially this agenda to murder massive portions of the population.
	Jeff, what are your hopes for the documentary?
	I mean, what happens next?
	I think you were saying that on May 22nd, you have your premiere.
	May 21st, we have a private event theater premiere.
	May 22nd is the public release.
	May 22nd is also the release of a director's edition version that has more footage and back behind the scenes stuff.
	My hope for this is that it's impactful and that it convinces people to do their own studying and that they listen to what Scott just said and look at that evidence and decide for themselves That they need to stop worrying about, you know, the small things in life, as people say, the first world problems, because we have a lot bigger problems right now.
	And everybody needs to step up and do their part in it.
	The last thing I'll say about the documentary is that there are 43 other families That their loved one died in a similar manner to how Grace died.
	And my opinion of that is that they were murdered.
	And when you go through the film and you watch the film and at the end, Yeah.
	has a story. Every one of those individuals has a story and their families and their friends, the heart, just the heartbreak that has gone around the world because of these people, it should infuriate every decent person on the planet.
	The enemy is within.
	I mean, enough talking about Hitlers and Stalins when the Hitlers and Stalins are here today right now in action and never again is complete BS because look how easy it is.
	I mean, think about it this way.
	It's like this was a virus that doesn't even do that much damage.
	What happens when something truly damaging comes?
	In a way, a lot of people, you know, assume that this was just a testing ground.
	Let's see how this kind of relatively benign virus, and I'm talking in regards to COVID-19, let's see what that does to the people.
	And then what happens when something that actually kills 5% of the population comes out?
	I mean, it's really scary stuff how easy it is to have people give up their freedoms.
	You know, we saw it with the Patriot Act.
	We're seeing it right now. Is there anything in closing, Scott and Jeff, that we didn't talk about that you'd want to mention or discuss?
	I wouldn't mind just framing the film as far as how I see it.
	This film exposes one tentacle Of the antichrist beast system.
	So we're in the antichrist beast system.
	I mean, that's what we're in. That means that Satan is the prince of this world, which we know.
	And his minions have convinced us to rely on pharmaceuticals and the white coats instead of God to heal our bodies.
	Remember, I'm in the hospital murder lane.
	And so that's why I'm talking about this.
	And they even invented, like I said earlier, the Hippocratic Oath to further entrench the lie.
	And now the trap has been set.
	I see that COVID was a diversion for the bigger trap, you know, the bigger evil trap.
	Is there something else coming?
	Well, the book of Revelation says a second beast system is coming that replaces the first beast system.
	And that's the false prophet system.
	And remember, this is a battle for souls.
	So Satan doesn't care if he looks evil on one side or if he looks good as an angel of light on the other side.
	And every chance I get, I want to frame What we're doing in that light.
	So we're definitely exposing evil with this film.
	But if we only expose evil, we miss the mark.
	Because we also have to share what God's plan is.
	And God has a plan to Rectify evil through repentance and through His Son, Jesus Christ.
	And that always has to be said.
	Otherwise, we're just contributing to the next level if all we're doing is exposing evil.
	We're shining God's light on evil is what we're doing.
	Exactly, exactly.
	And evil has a lot harder time surviving in the light than it does in the darkness.
	Jeff, any last words?
	Yeah, just in closing, I would say, you know, people can, on the 21st or 22nd, they can go to americafirstproductions.com.
	They can see the documentary there for free.
	The release will also be on the Patriot Review sites, so all the social media, the rumbles and all those.
	And then... I would like to say, too, that there is a positive story in this as well, and that is, you know, what you can do for your families.
	And there's an example in there in the documentary.
	I won't give it away, but if you want to know how to fight back, that's part of the documentary as well.
	It's not all just... You know, so that part of it, as Scott mentioned, you know, that's an important piece of it, and we need to remember that.
	There's good things. The last thing I'll say is I have this saying that I share with my viewers, and that is, remember the ripple.
	And what I mean by that is, for all of you out there who just don't think that you can contribute to fighting this evil...
	Yeah.
	that your actions have.
	Just keep that in mind.
	Even if you do something really small, it's still positive, it still makes a difference.
	Like a butterfly effect.
	I mean, you might tell somebody something, that person tells somebody else, and you save a life without even knowing it, because you don't know what happened to that truth, that word that you put out.
	You know, gentlemen, amazing work.
	Jeff, is there a way for people to donate to you, by the way?
	Because you're obviously doing this stuff for free.
	I mean, you're giving out the documentary for free.
	Is there a way for people to help you out?
	People can purchase the Director's Edition.
	If they use America First, America No.
	1 ST, they get $10 off.
	So check that out.
	And I have a donate button on both RedBloodedPatriots.com, which is my Patriot Review Show website, and then America First Productions, which is on the bottom of the screen there.
	I'd appreciate anything anyone can give.
	And if anybody has ideas for following up and really exposing more of this stuff, I'm always open to helping people out as well.
	Yeah, yeah. Jeff, didn't you also tell me that if anybody wants to contribute more than $500,000, they're supposed to do that by wire transfer?
	Yeah, right.
	Okay. I don't recall thinking that big, Scott, but I need to do that.
	Well, I mean, for the viewers, you know, this is the way we're going to get out of this mess, right?
	I mean, we saw how networks that are run due to pharmaceutical finances with these corrupted industrial complexes, I mean, they will tell you lies that literally result in the death and destruction of your family.
	And I know what happened to Scott wasn't necessarily because of these COVID jabs, but Like you were saying, this has been going on for decades.
	We just found out about it because it happened on such an industrial level to the mass population of this world, right?
	And so the way we beat this corruption is by supporting people like Jeff, and frankly, you know, supporting people like America happens, what we do over here with the Blood Money podcast, because that's the way the truth is going to come out.
	And so kindly, if you could afford it, please consider donating to Jeff.
	Please consider supporting this very worthy cause.
	And I thank you, gentlemen, for showing up to this Blood Money podcast.
	Thank you so much. And thank you so much, Scott, for coming out and telling your story about what happened to your beautiful daughter.
	To the viewers out there, thank you so much for showing up to the Blood Money podcast.
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	My daughter was killed by the hospital killing fields and we made a movie about this evil conspiracy to kill our children.
	Alright, so we're on the latest episode of Blood Money with two very special guests, Jeff Wagner and Scott Shara.
	Did I get that right?
	You got it. Alright, alright, cool.
	How you guys doing? Wonderful.
	Awesome. So let's just dive right into it.
	Jeff, if you don't mind quickly introducing yourself, what you're doing and what capacity you work with Scott.
	Sure. So I am the host of a show called The Patriot Review, which is on frankspeech.com and writeamericamedia.com and all your typical stream sites, streaming sites.
	And back in 2022, I had Scott on that show.
	To talk about what happened to his family and his daughter, Grace.
	And since then, I've attended some of the rallies that he has had.
	And Scott asked me to actually help him and work on this documentary telling the story.
	And since the time we originally began it, the project has really ballooned.
	And it's become, I think, much larger than what we both first anticipated.
	So we're excited about it.
	Is it okay, Scott, before I have you speak a little bit about yourself, is it okay if I just play the preview of the documentary that just Jeff has been working on about your daughter?
	♪ After we watched our daughter, Grace, die on police time, I immediately felt that I needed to go to the hospital, though I was still pretty sick.
	you And I met Jessica and our pastor there.
	And while we were in the room, Jessica and I had to spend a few moments just with Grace alone.
	It was The emotions that came over the top of our minds and our physical bodies were just unbelief.
	We took her BiPAP off because it was still on.
	This was hope and prayers that somehow she wasn't really gone.
	As soon as we did that, the color of grace changed.
	We had to accept that she was truly gone.
	Not one person stepped foot in that room.
	How can you do that?
	How can you allow an innocent person, a child, she's only 19 years old, die in front of your eyes?
	You don't do that.
	If you're human, you don't do that.
	They knew they weren't going to convince us to put Grace on a ventilator.
	That means the money was going to dry up.
	They had to have the money.
	And when you follow the money trail all the way through, you see that a ventilator is about a $300,000 decision.
	That they had higher paying patients in the emergency room.
	Graces were more dead than alive.
	The end.
	Wow, wow, that's incredibly powerful.
	I mean, if I could have a word before you talk, Scott, about this documentary.
	I mean, it seems as though having done, you know, we're up to 88 episodes of this podcast, Blood Money, And we consistently expose stories about conspiracies, controversies, and corruption.
	And it seems as though all of our industrial complexes in the United States, not just the medical industrial complex, but all of our industrial complexes are really geared towards the destruction of people.
	Over a financial amount.
	Now, in this preview we talked about the ventilators, how this child was worth more to the system dead than alive because of the $300,000 incentive.
	Then you look at organizations like CPS, our family law industry, where literal Price amounts are put on the destruction of children, that this institutionalized destruction of children actually makes these court systems a lot of money.
	And I just see essentially an entire variety of industrial complexes that are geared towards our destruction.
	And I just wanted to make that point because watching a very powerful preview about what happened to Grace, I'm sad to say, but it's happening across our industrial complexes on an industrial level now.
	So anyway, excuse that rant, but I just felt like I had to make that point.
	Scott, you know, introduce yourself.
	Tell us a little bit about what happened here and your family.
	I'm having a hard time hearing you.
	I wonder if I should go out and come back in.
	You're frozen right now.
	Oh, I am? Okay, okay.
	Jeff, are you experiencing the same issue?
	Both you guys are good.
	All of a sudden, you just opened up again.
	Okay. So I did hear what you said about the medical industrial complex.
	I mean, no doubt that that's true.
	And it's way bigger, of course, as you noted, other than it's infiltrated all of our society.
	We've been programmed to believe things that are complete lies.
	And, you know, it starts with the American dream that we're free.
	Well, we're not free at all.
	I didn't know any of this until Grace died.
	I've become awake. Jeff met me as I was waking up.
	I don't know that anybody can be totally awake.
	He's right on. This project got substantially bigger.
	It's because Grace's story has got so big.
	I've been on about 500 interviews now.
	We filed a lawsuit on April 11th, the first of its kind.
	The story has gotten so big.
	The documentary expanded because of all the different people that I've met.
	Through this process of sharing the story.
	I'm humbled to be used like this.
	I can hardly believe it's happening in our country.
	People who are not awake have a hard time believing what we have to say.
	You know, for the last three years, I know that our group has been going to great extent to let people know what's been going on, especially since this COVID jab started.
	And that seems to have been You know, part of this depopulation agenda from, you know, after having spoken to 20 something frontline doctors, they all say the same thing, that this jab is destructive and people's eyes are starting to open.
	And what we're noticing is that now that people on a wholesale level are feeling sick, they're going through their nine to fives, not feeling themselves, having noticeable damage to their health, people are starting to open their eyes and they're becoming curious about this.
	And it seems as though You, through your experiences with what happened to Grace, went through this eye-opening experience as well.
	I mean, what did it feel like to realize that in our country people are actually incentivized to cause damage to the population for financial gain?
	A lot of the points took me a couple of weeks just to percolate through my head.
	And now that I am on the other side of it, what it feels like is interestingly different because what I see now that I am doing this full-time is that most of the people who are in this movement, I don't think they believe how bad it really is.
	They seem to be Certainly on the medical freedom side of the scale, but this is terrible.
	I'm in the hospital murder lane, to be blunt.
	That lane has not been exposed yet.
	This film exposes that lane.
	Hardly anybody knows that this is even happening.
	This has been happening for decades.
	That's what I've uncovered.
	This has nothing to do with COVID. This agenda has been around for a long, long time.
	And as Jeff is very well aware, I mean, I got codified with Obamacare on March 23rd of 2010.
	You know, nobody reads Obamacare, but I challenge anybody listening to pull it up.
	Google Obamacare or brave it, whatever you want.
	It's 974 pages long.
	Read section 1553, which is page 141.
	Read it. It will change your life because all of a sudden you'll see that we were the first.
	We're always the first. Our country is always the first with evil.
	And then we point our finger to everybody else.
	We project sin like no other country in the world.
	Those naughty Canadians with their medical assistance in dying program, we had medical assistance in dying way before the Canadians.
	We invented it. And we codified it in Obamacare.
	And it's right there for the review.
	When you read that page, it changes your whole view because you realize they put it in writing And are implementing it and have been implementing it for decades.
	My daughter was taken out because of that agenda, not because of COVID. Right.
	Wow. And if I could just step in just a second here, the whole euthanasia movement, that was a big thing in the 1920s and 30s.
	It was huge. There were a lot of famous people.
	And I have a clip of Bernard Shaw or...
	George Bernard Shaw, who was a playwright, right?
	And he's talking about how if people are useless, they should be terminated.
	They don't need to exist if they're not contributing.
	Who determines that?
	That's the problem. Do you remember the meetings that they had publicly about Obamacare?
	And the Republicans around the table were saying they're going to have death committees, right?
	They're going to have... These boards that decide who lives and dies based on their value.
	And of course, everybody shunned those folks and laughed at them.
	But here we are today in the exact situation that they were warning about.
	Wow, wow. Now, you said, Scott, you said that this has been going on for years.
	I mean, it's definitely become very apparent with the killing fields, the hospital killing fields of COVID-19.
	How, you know, remdesivir, all the different systems that ultimately resulted in death for so many.
	I mean, it's become very clear.
	But what do you mean when you say it's been going on for decades?
	Could you please elaborate?
	As to what's been going on for decades in regards to the hospital killing fields.
	So if you just process this just in terms of Obamacare.
	So that's decades just with Obamacare.
	So we'll start with that and then we can go backwards.
	So Obamacare was put into law March 23rd of 2010.
	The impetus behind Obamacare was euthanasia.
	In fact, The chief architect of Obamacare was Ezekiel Emanuel.
	In 1996, he said, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed.
	So that is all of us someday.
	We'll be non-participating citizens.
	And when that day arrives, whatever for us to decide, because there's people smarter than us that get to decide that.
	Of course, I'm saying that tongue-in-cheek.
	Then, once we become non-participating citizens, we don't deserve healthcare.
	Okay? So, you start with that.
	So, that man is the key architect of Obamacare.
	So, it's no surprising that page 141, section 1553 documents The euthanasia, mercy killing, and assisted suicide.
	It's right in the document. It says that is how they're going to kill us.
	So it's no surprise that that's in there.
	Okay, so then let's go back further.
	How can you convince a doctor to commit euthanasia or assisted suicide or mercy killing?
	How does that even work?
	How could you convince a man to implement something to kill another man?
	That doesn't make any sense.
	But they do it under the spirit of collectivism.
	So collectivism means the good of the mass versus individualism, the good of the individual.
	And they lied to us by implementing the Hippocratic Oath many, many decades ago to get us to believe in a document.
	These doctors have to sign the Hippocratic Oath.
	A doctor wrote me just last week.
	He said, Scott, I want to remind you We never have had to sign the Hippocratic Oath.
	The Hippocratic Oath was put in place to get the population to believe we're following individualism when in fact we're following collectivism.
	So then what they do is they do training documents so that these guys' consciences get seared.
	And an example of a training document we found, my daughter Grace had Down syndrome.
	So of course, you know, my research started with Down syndrome.
	One of the training documents we found with Down syndrome, and this spirit of collectivism has been going on way before Obamacare.
	And the excuse they use, Val, is, or Val, I'm sorry, is that it's Financially impossible to maintain the system of Medicare and Medicaid.
	That's the excuse they use.
	Well, just think about how foolish that is.
	That's another lie because we don't...
	So when did that lie start?
	Well, that started back when we started the fiat currency.
	So we don't have any balancing of budget even necessary anymore.
	So why do they even bring that up?
	Because people can't grasp the concept of a fiat currency.
	All right, so back to the training document I mentioned, and then I'll slow down.
	You got me pretty wound up with that question.
	So this training document is from the Palliative Care Network of Wisconsin.
	Jeff and I are from Wisconsin.
	Grace is from Wisconsin.
	So just put your state in here.
	This is written by two MDs.
	This is to train doctors and nurses about how to handle patients with Down syndrome.
	It's called palliative care for patients with Down syndrome.
	They don't say anything positive.
	They introduce Down syndrome as problem after problem after problem.
	So that first title is causes of morbidity and death and Down syndrome.
	So they list about 40 problems Down syndrome people can have.
	Sleep apnea, dental issues, cardiac septal defects, thyroid dysfunction, blah, blah, blah.
	So why do they list all those problems?
	Well, the reason they list those problems is they are setting up the doctor to use the excuse of collectivism to take this group of the population out.
	So their transition statement says this, the lifelong toll on families is high.
	So when you read that litany, if you don't know anything about people with Down syndrome, you think, oh my gosh, Why would any family want somebody that has Down syndrome?
	These are just problems, right?
	So the lifelong toll on families is high.
	The lifelong toll on our family of having Grace was fantastic.
	She made us a better family.
	She made me a better dad.
	Because she just loved the way God intended.
	So then they say part of a robust plan of care includes acknowledgement of this toll by healthcare workers.
	So the healthcare worker is supposed to acknowledge that these families don't want the Down syndrome child.
	All right? So now they set the stage for the kill.
	I mean, this is right in the published document.
	It says, whenever possible, decision makers, that's the doctors, for people with Down syndrome should be encouraged to use substituted judgment, their judgment, to make key palliative care decisions.
	All efforts should be made to determine the preferences of the patient.
	However, because of lifelong cognitive impairment, the views of the person with Down syndrome may not be known.
	Just process that insanity.
	I know the view of every single person with Down syndrome on the entire planet.
	They want to live just like I want to live, just like you want to live them, and just like Jeff wants to live.
	Why does a Down syndrome...
	They talk nothing about the child's capacity to love, being a loving creature, nothing emotional.
	It's all detachment. And one thing I noticed, I mean, frankly, this is straight, like, Third Reich, Fourth Reich, whatever Nazi ideology.
	I mean, straight out of, like...
	Straight out of, like, literal, like, Hitler's teachings in Mein Kampf, getting rid of people that don't fit a certain level of perfection of the elite.
	So, Nazism, that's where we are with...
	That's because, so now you take it all the way back, then.
	That's because Hitler adopted our thinking.
	We invented this crap.
	We invented eugenics in the United States.
	Hitler adopted from us.
	And then we pulled the...
	The chief architect still working for Hitler through Operation Paperclip back in the United States.
	So that's why I can say this has been going on for decades.
	And when it's convenient to play on people's emotions and say, oh, look how bad Hitler is.
	He was killing people that were not in vision of his perfection, the Aryan perfect image in his eyes.
	I mean... They made him out to be a bad guy because of that, but our system is essentially using the same techniques, and as you're saying, we invented this stuff.
	Hitler was a hero. I mean, Charles Lindbergh loved Hitler.
	He went to Germany to visit him before all the deaths started happening.
	And this film, I'm glad you brought him up, because there's a lot of films that are out there right now that deal with a piece of this overall problem.
	This Breaking the Oath is the only film that I'm aware of That brings us all together in a worldview.
	And we make direct parallels.
	We have Vera Sharab, who's a Holocaust survivor, is one of the guests on this program, this movie.
	And she makes direct parallels, seeing what's happening in America today and what was happening back when she was a little girl in Nazi Germany.
	And really, when you start comparing them...
	It's literally shocking because it wakes you up just in thinking about that and going down that path.
	So that's one of the things that the documentary, I mean, the guy that's behind me on the screen, he is more...
	A dangerous and a more evil person than Dr.
	Mengele was, who was famous for his experiments on twins and children.
	By the way, do you mind if I pause you right there?
	Because people are going to listen to that statement, some people, and they're going to say, oh, right-wing conspiracy theorists and all that stuff.
	But the numbers alone, I mean, when you look at how many people were murdered in World War II, right?
	If you look at the gypsies and the Nazis and...
	12 million. So what we're looking at right now, according to a lot of these frontline doctors, is potentially up to a billion.
	Keep in mind that Mengele, I mean, he had a very limited number of kids that he killed.
	And yes, he sent people to the gas chamber.
	But this guy that's behind me, Mengla looked people in the eye and did it.
	This guy doesn't care.
	Right now there's 7 million deaths around the world in COVID and only going up.
	So what's the difference between those two?
	This guy, in my opinion, that's behind me is much worse.
	Yeah, yeah. It's just he's protected by the system.
	He's protected by the system.
	I mean, he is roaming around free and not get too political.
	But today, you know, we just heard that a certain former president was, you know, based upon no evidence is now found guilty for defaming somebody that he claims lied.
	And I mean, said that like...
	You know, he raped her.
	I mean, I don't want to bring that up because he's such a polarizing figure, but it just shows that in every industrial complex, including our legal fields, all the standards have disappeared.
	There's no standards in law.
	There's no standards in medicine, you know?
	Oaths are broken.
	I mean, just like the doctors are breaking their oats, the lawyers are breaking their oats.
	I mean, how far have we come as a country?
	And is there a way to repair this?
	Is there a way to make a U-turn?
	Who are you asking? Whoever wants to take the question.
	Go ahead, Scott. Well, I absolutely think there's a make There's a way to make a U-turn.
	God wrote it out in the Bible at the beginning.
	It's called repentance.
	And any other method other than repentance first will not accomplish the goal.
	Period. End of story.
	There's a lot of people promoting solutions right now, but they're man-made solutions.
	We got into this trouble because we rejected God and put man in place of God.
	So you can't have man-made solutions fix man-made problems.
	This is a God-sized problem, and the only way out of it is repentance.
	Otherwise, it's over. God has done this before, and He's going to do it again.
	Are we talking about something catastrophic, like, you know, I mean, that we've seen over and over again in the Bible, the wrath of God, so to speak, or are you talking about it's over, like our country's over, there's no future here?
	I think the wrath of God is at the doorstep if we don't repent.
	That's where I see it. I mean, I think we are clearly in the days of Noah.
	We have evil being called good.
	We have good being called evil.
	In the days of Noah, the Nephilim had infiltrated the Entire population.
	So God had to eliminate the entire population other than Noah and his family in order to keep the seed pure so that Jesus could come.
	And so what is the goal of these elites?
	I mean, they have the sustainability agenda.
	Of course, we've got to manage the population.
	We've got to manage the planet.
	You know, that seems, you know, they're a wolf in sheep's clothing, of course, with that.
	But their real agenda is transhumanism.
	So transhumanism is really the same thing.
	We're not going to have any pure human seed.
	I make a point in the video and part of it that talks about the arrogance of...
	Of people in general, but of Americans in particular, when we look back at those genocides that have occurred in the past, whether it's Mao in China or Lenin, Stalin, or Hitler, as we were discussing, we look back and we say, well, how did the people ever allow that to happen, right?
	And to me, that is the only thing that I need to add on to Scott's point about, can we turn it around?
	Well, we've got to stop tolerating stuff.
	Stop tolerating, you know, at your local level, stop tolerating this crap that they're trying to shove down your throats.
	And you don't have to be violent.
	You just pick up a document like the one I was talking to you about, and you get educated on it, and you push back on it.
	I'm going to put on this document, by the way.
	You're speaking about the grand jury evidence?
	Yeah, right. Yeah, I'm just going to flash this on screen.
	Could you talk a little bit about what this image is representing?
	So this is a document that originally I got from David Sorensen's StopTheWorld.com.
	It's an excellent website. This is a document that I think would be very beneficial for any viewer who's going to watch Breaking the Oath or anybody who just is shaking their head no and, you know, being skeptical about what we're talking about.
	This document shows you the history and it provides the proof that you need to really come to an understanding that what we're talking about is really happening.
	This document is the equivalent to Mein Kampf was.
	If only the Germans would have taken that seriously when he said he was going to kill all the Jews.
	This document shows that this whole situation that we find ourselves in today is deliberate, it's planned, and it's being executed.
	And the whole COVID thing, the vaccine, all that, they're just spiderweb strands and overall web that includes all kinds of other things, like the environmentalism and how crushing what they want to do to our societies in the name of environmental fascism,
	basically. So that document has 120 individual links that source everything that's said in there, and it's just indisputable.
	It's evidence, and you can go to the website, America First Productions, and go to Breaking the Oath, and you'll see, under Breaking the Oath, you'll see evidence, and you can download that document.
	Yep, yep. And we've done quite a few Blood Money episodes.
	For anybody out there that has even a smidgen of doubt, you should watch some of these doctors talk about what has happened to our population because it is without a doubt population controlled.
	It's Holocaust, genocide.
	Frankly, the worst genocide or Holocaust in the history of humankind.
	There's never been numbers of this kind.
	I mean, we're talking about 7 million, but when you talk about all these people dying because of the jab, This is the biggest threat that mankind has ever had.
	This is global genocide.
	This isn't genocide in Nazi Germany.
	This isn't genocide in the Soviet Union.
	This is global genocide and it's being done And they'll tell you right in the documents of World Economic Forum, they say they want to get the population down to 500 million or less.
	It's also in the Guidestones in Georgia, if you've ever heard of the Guidestones.
	That's number one on their list, is maintain a population of 500 million people.
	Seven and a half billion of us.
	Yeah, seven and a half billion people.
	Wow. You know, Jeff, this hasn't been an easy process for you because while you've been making this documentary, I mean, you've had health issues.
	Can you tell us a little bit about the process of making this documentary and some of the challenges that you're dealing with just on a personal level to see it through?
	Well, you know, originally I was in corporate America as I was talking to you before the show here.
	And in 2019, I got diagnosed with a disease called interstitial cystitis.
	It's a disease that, you know, 99% of the people that have it are female.
	So I'm the lucky 1% male who All the treatments are not made for.
	And it's kind of like having a severe bladder infection all the time.
	So pain is a constant everyday thing for me.
	And that said, I still view that as a blessing because that was given to me by God so that I could do this.
	And that's the truth of it.
	This slowed me down.
	This really put me in a place where I got to decide what's important to me.
	And going through your midlife crisis like I was at 54 or 55, you're thinking, what's my legacy?
	Well, the legacy is freedom, and that's what everybody's legacy should be.
	Not only in America, but we've got to go back to the individual, as Scott was talking about, the individual liberty, right?
	And they're trying to take that away from everybody right now.
	And it's your children.
	They're taking your children away, right?
	They're Going on the gender transformation behind your back and all this stuff that's going on.
	Really, it's been a privilege.
	It's been an honor for me to not only do this documentary, but to do my show.
	I've met so many wonderful people.
	My advice would be, no matter what your challenges are, Decide what you're good at.
	Decide what you can contribute and do it.
	We gotta have this legacy of freedom.
	That's what we have to do.
	I mean, what makes you compelled to become part of this movement?
	Is it just your fight of freedom?
	I mean, what is it about this that makes this the most crucial fight?
	Well, I fully believe in the idea of America.
	And if you have children, you know, when you put your head on your pillow at night, the last thing that you want to think of is, my kids are going to be enslaved.
	And they're going to have terrible, miserable lives because some elitist Nazi...
	Nazi, exactly.
	Thinks that they know better.
	So that's my motivation.
	I just really believe that people should be free.
	They should be able to pursue their dreams.
	They should pursue happiness, right?
	The pursuit of happiness. It's just our government needs to get the hell out of the way and let people pursue their happiness.
	Yeah, Scott, so who are you before all this happened and how would you describe yourself now?
	Well, I was a business owner that worked way too many hours.
	I was motivated to have the business survive my death so that it would take care of my daughter, Grace, and my wife, Cindy, after I was gone.
	So I've been a business owner for over 30 years.
	Thank God I developed heart disease about six years ago.
	I was diagnosed with that.
	It took a long time to get it to that point.
	Then, six years ago, I started training my guys to run the business.
	Now, the transition was fairly easy.
	I am doing this full-time.
	I've become a full-time advocate researcher.
	God knew that it was going to be Put a fire in my belly to do this.
	And he set this up six years prior so that my guys can run the business and the business can take care of this project that we're working on.
	You know, this project is this whole thing.
	We have 18 billboards up.
	We filed a lawsuit.
	You know, all of that takes a fair amount of cash flow to be able to Do all that, but you know, that's what I do now.
	So before I would have said, I would, I described myself as a businessman who had a healthy, I was a conservative with a healthy distrust for the government.
	Now I would say that I'm an advocate and I completely think our government is totally corrupt.
	Both parties, I think they're all in on it.
	And I think that The only way out of this is for people to wake up.
	Think through how easy, like Jeff said, if people just stood.
	So when they demanded masks, if everybody said, screw it, we're not wearing masks, it would have been over.
	But no, they didn't.
	And then when people were told that you had to get the jab to keep their job, say, no, we're not doing that.
	That would have been over. You have to wear a mask to get on an airplane.
	No, we're not doing that. I mean, it would have shut the airlines down.
	So then they would have had to retreat from these crazy, draconian positions.
	But they saw how easy it was to take, you know, the masses by far.
	I mean, the masses agreed with all this.
	You know, this crazy shot.
	Think through that.
	Right now, anybody can read the Brooke Jackson filing.
	Brooke Jackson filed the False Claims Act against Pfizer.
	Read it. It says it was never a vaccine.
	But then our government, so you read that document, then you see they're still promoting You know, whatever, the 18th jab.
	You have Chelsea Clinton as of two days ago going out there and saying that every child, every baby should be vaccinated when they know this kills children.
	I mean, how can you look at them and say you're not a pile of evil crap when she has access to this information, but she is essentially promoting the manslaughter of the murder of children?
	At least that's the way I look at it.
	Well, they're in the practice of using fear, which is, again, one of the key tools that has been used throughout history.
	And that's, to Scott's point, that's how they got people to take the jab.
	It's how they got people to wear the mask.
	Nobody, my background in corporate America was safety and environmental compliance.
	So I knew it was complete nonsense that you put a cotton weave mask that's 80 micron holes in it, or a 60 micron, you know, virus.
	Right, it's so stupid.
	Yeah, yeah. I used to tell people, hey, next time you have to go to the bathroom and sit on the throne, put a mask on, see if you can still smell it.
	It's funny because that was a big joke.
	Like a guy I knew went around farting around people and being like, could you smell that?
	Well, your mask doesn't work because my fart particles are a lot smaller than the COVID particles.
	Exactly. Exactly.
	Yeah. Yeah. You know, Scott, like if I told you 10 years ago that our government would be conspiring to murder 95% of us, what would you have told me?
	Yeah, that's a fantastic question.
	I was literally thinking about that this morning.
	What if somebody told me this 10 years ago?
	I would not have believed them.
	However, and this is why a research component of my advocacy is a big deal, because I'm analytical, and if they would have shown me documents, They would have convinced me.
	They wouldn't have convinced me with their testimony because, you know, unless I trusted them, you know, then they could have convinced me with their testimony.
	But show me the documents.
	Show me the evidence. And that's why I like to show evidence whenever I'm talking because that's the tool that convinces me.
	And when you see something like that, the Brooke Jackson documents, Section 1553 of Obamacare, You know, the palliative care training for Down Syndrome kids.
	You see these things in writing and it's like, I mean, it's there and it's plain to read.
	You don't have to even interpret.
	Yeah, unbelievable stuff, unbelievable stuff.
	I mean, I just think to myself, you know, when you talk about these agendas and, you know, eugenics and all that, you know, something like 60 million black kids have been aborted.
	Not jumping to the, you know, topic of abortion, but it's similar because they're talking about similar depopulation agendas.
	And you wonder, you know, how many Martin Luther Kings were in there, you know?
	How many wonderful, intelligent people?
	It's like these outliers that you least expect that rise up to the challenge and become leaders and great people, right?
	And how many of those did we lose because of this wholesale corruption?
	Because essentially, this agenda to murder massive portions of the population.
	Jeff, what are your hopes for the documentary?
	I mean, what happens next?
	I think you were saying that on May 22nd, you have your premiere.
	May 21st, we have a private event theater premiere.
	May 22nd is the public release.
	May 22nd is also the release of a director's edition version that has more footage and back behind the scenes stuff.
	My hope for this is that it's impactful and that it convinces people to do their own studying and that they listen to what Scott just said and look at that evidence and decide for themselves That they need to stop worrying about the small things in life, as people say, the first world problems, because we have a lot bigger problems right now, and everybody needs to step up and do their part in it.
	The last thing I'll say about the documentary is that there are 43 other families that That their loved one died in a similar manner to how Grace died.
	And my opinion of that is that they were murdered.
	And when you go through the film and you watch the film and at the end, You brought a great point with how many Martin Luther Kings were there.
	Every one of those individuals has a story.
	Every one of those individuals has a story.
	And their families and their friends, just the heartbreak that has gone around the world because of these people, it should infuriate every decent person on the planet.
	Yeah, yeah. The enemy is within.
	I mean, enough talking about Hitlers and Stalins when the Hitlers and Stalins are here today right now in action and never again is complete BS because look how easy it is.
	I mean, think about it this way.
	It's like this was a virus that doesn't even do that much damage.
	What happens when something truly damaging comes?
	In a way, a lot of people, you know, assume that this was just a testing ground.
	Let's see how this kind of relatively benign virus, and I'm talking in regards to COVID-19, let's see what that does to the people.
	And then what happens when something that actually kills 5% of the population comes out.
	I mean, it's really scary stuff how easy it is to have people give up their freedoms.
	You know, we saw it with the Patriot Act.
	We're seeing it right now. Is there anything in closing, Scott and Jeff, that we didn't talk about that you'd want to mention or discuss?
	I wouldn't mind just framing the film as far as how I see it.
	This film exposes one tentacle Of the antichrist beast system.
	So we're in the antichrist beast system.
	I mean, that's what we're in. That means that Satan is the prince of this world, which we know.
	And, you know, his minions have convinced us to rely on pharmaceuticals and the white coats instead of God to heal our bodies.
	Remember, I'm in the hospital murder lane.
	And so that's why I'm talking about this.
	And they even invented, like I said earlier, the Hippocratic Oath to further entrench the lie.
	And now the trap has been set.
	I see that COVID was a diversion for the bigger trap, you know, the bigger evil trap, but then Is there something else coming?
	Well, the book of Revelation says a second beast system is coming that replaces the first beast system.
	And that's the false prophet system.
	And remember, this is a battle for souls.
	So Satan doesn't care if he looks evil on one side or if he looks good as an angel of light on the other side.
	And every chance I get, I want to frame what we're doing in that light.
	So we're definitely exposing evil with this film.
	But if we only expose evil, we miss the mark.
	Because we also have to share what God's plan is.
	And God has a plan to rectify evil through repentance and through His Son, Jesus Christ.
	And that always has to be said.
	Otherwise, we're just contributing to the next level if all we're doing is exposing evil.
	We're shining God's light on evil is what we're doing.
	Exactly, exactly.
	And evil has a lot harder time surviving in the light than it does in the darkness.
	Jeff, any last words?
	Yeah, just in closing, I would say, you know, people can, on the 21st or 22nd, they can go to americafirstproductions.com.
	They can see the documentary there for free.
	The release will also be on the Patriot Review sites, so all the social media, the rumbles and all those.
	And then Would like to say, too, that there is a positive story in this as well, and that is, you know, what you can do for your families.
	And there's an example in there in the documentary.
	I won't give it away, but if you want to know how to fight back, that's part of the documentary as well.
	It's not all just... You know, so that part of it, as Scott mentioned, you know, that's an important piece of it, and we need to remember that.
	There's good things. The last thing I'll say is I have this saying that I share with my viewers, and that is, remember the ripple.
	And what I mean by that is, for all of you out there who just don't think that you can contribute to fighting this evil, you generally don't know the positive effects that your actions have.
	Just keep that in mind.
	Even if you do something really small, it's still positive, it still makes a difference.
	Like a butterfly effect.
	I mean, you might tell somebody something, that person tells somebody else, and you save a life without even knowing it, because you don't know what happened to that truth, that word that you put out.
	You know, gentlemen, amazing work.
	Jeff, is there a way for people to donate to you, by the way?
	Because you're obviously doing this stuff for free.
	I mean, you're giving out the documentary for free.
	Is there a way for people to help you out?
	People can purchase the Director's Edition.
	If they use America First, America No.
	1 ST, they get $10 off.
	So you can check that out.
	And I have a donate button on both redbloodedpatriots.com, which is my Patriot Review Show website, and then America First Productions, which is on the bottom of the screen there.
	I'd appreciate anything anyone can give, and if anybody has ideas for following up and really exposing more of this stuff, I'm always open to helping people out as well.
	Jeff, didn't you also tell me that if anybody wants to contribute more than $500,000, they're supposed to do it by wire transfer?
	Yeah, right.
	I don't recall feeling that big, Scott, but I need to do that.
	Well, I mean, for the viewers, you know, this is the way we're going to get out of this mess, right?
	I mean, we saw how networks that are run due to pharmaceutical finances with these corrupted industrial complexes, I mean, they will tell you lies that literally result in the death and destruction of your family.
	And I know what happened to Scott wasn't necessarily because of these COVID jabs, but Like you were saying, this has been going on for decades.
	We just found out about it because it happened on such an industrial level to the mass population of this world, right?
	And so the way we beat this corruption is by supporting people like Jeff, and frankly, you know, supporting people like America happens, what we do over here with the Blood Money podcast, because that's the way the truth is going to come out.
	And so kindly, you know, if you could afford it, please consider donating to Jeff.
	Please consider supporting this very worthy cause.
	And I thank you gentlemen for showing up to this Blood Money podcast.
	Thank you so much. And thank you so much, Scott, for coming out and telling your story about what happened to your beautiful daughter.
	To the viewers out there, thank you so much for showing up to the Blood Money podcast.
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