Sept. 30, 2023 - Blood Money
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| Blood Money Episode 52 with Jamie Michelle, Gays Against Groomers Save America. | |
| Jamie takes us through her journey as she realized that the woke movement was causing harm to children, and bravely she decided to form Gays Against Groomers to fight the woke narrative. | |
| Gays Against Groomers is a coalition of gay people who do not stand for the sexualization, medicalization, or indoctrination of children. | |
| Join us this Tuesday at 6 p.m. | |
| Pacific, 9 p.m. Eastern for our interview with Jamie Michelle, the founder of Gaze Against Groomers on AmericaHappens.com. | |
| All right, we're on the next episode of Blood Money. | |
| Today we have a very special guest, Jamie Michelle. | |
| How are you doing? Hi, I'm good. | |
| Thanks for having me on. Awesome. | |
| We're very excited to have you on the show. | |
| You've been working with Gays Against Groomers. | |
| Let's dive right into it. Tell us a little bit about what you've been working on, a little bit about your background and what you're doing right now. | |
| Yeah, so I'm the founder of Gays Against Groomers. | |
| We launched June of 2022, so we're still really new. | |
| Myself, personally, I have been kind of in the political arena and right-wing politics for the past six or seven years now. | |
| And I created an account called The Gay Who Strayed back in 2017. | |
| It's called The Gay Who Strayed. | |
| That was basically to show that not everybody on the right is a straight white male. | |
| There's all kinds of us because that was kind of the running narrative from the left for a really long time. | |
| I was trying to poke holes in that theory and narrative. | |
| I started that and over the years I was able to grow that account to 240,000 followers. | |
| I became pretty well known in the space. | |
| I wasn't so much an influencer with my own content, but people knew of me, and I had this big platform. | |
| I was actually getting really tired of the same old stuff. | |
| It felt like we weren't going anywhere. | |
| We were just going in circles, and we kept losing, and it was just frustrating. | |
| I was tired of posting the same stuff all the time, memes and news. | |
| It's like, how am I helping here? | |
| What am I actually doing anymore? | |
| And I got tired with it, and honestly, I was going to take a step back. | |
| I did take a step back for a little bit, and I was like, do I even want to do this anymore? | |
| I'm just kind of bored with it. | |
| But, you know, being gay, like, I have seen for a long time what's happening within the LGBTQIA alphabet soup community, you know, and I have been very against what has become of the community for a long time, for years, you know, just with the over-sexualization and the kink everywhere and, you Pride just being shoved down everyone's throats during June and every other month, honestly. | |
| As a gay individual, I did not align or feel represented by that group of people anymore. | |
| But then what happened was they started attacking children more recently. | |
| And, you know, I, like everybody else, was seeing the constant stream of filthy content coming out with these kids at drag shows and kids transitioning and all the material being taught in their schools, and I was like... | |
| You know, I have a lot of friends that are gay that really oppose all of this, that do not condone it, vehemently oppose it. | |
| But like, there was no unifying force of us really, you know, pushing back against it. | |
| So that's when the idea for Gays Against Groomers came to me and I was like, you know, with my platform, with these hundreds of thousands of followers, I have to try and do something, you know? | |
| So I was like, This, you know, the name came to me, Gaze Against Groomers. | |
| I was like, oh, that's gonna, that's pretty fiery. | |
| That's gonna get a lot. Yeah, that's, that is definitely fiery. | |
| I love it, actually. | |
| I love it. I think it's like, it's such a, I mean, I'm, I have a background in marketing, advertising. | |
| I worked in television for like 25 years. | |
| And if I was to start an organization, that would be literally the bullseye in terms of branding what has to be branded right, you know? | |
| Yeah. A hundred percent. That's funny because I'm actually in marketing and graphic design. | |
| Well, I'm a graphic designer, but I've been like involved in every sort of branding and marketing for the past like 13 years with a bunch of different companies. | |
| I mean, as a personal, you know, my personal life, that's what I do. | |
| So, yeah, like I'm aware of things that, you know, catch hold and take off and what people flock to. | |
| So it was very intentional. | |
| You know, I wasn't trying to because because the thing is, the people On the other side, they are so bold and do not hold back, and that's how they have advanced this agenda, their agenda. | |
| We're always left picking up the pieces and scrambling and playing defense, and it's like, no, we're going to play offense this time, at least with what I'm in control of. | |
| Yeah. That's awesome. | |
| That's awesome. I mean, I have so much respect for you for doing what you're doing, honestly, because coming from, you know, my political background was never, like, I'm right or left or whatever. | |
| I kind of had an attitude of, like, I really don't care what other people are doing as long as nobody's breaking the law, right? | |
| And to be honest with you, the gay topic didn't even concern me. | |
| Like, I was all... Cool with it and marriage and all that stuff, you know? | |
| It's just when the children started being like... | |
| And I see this over and over again on the Blood Money podcast where you have these agendas that seem like... | |
| We just had an interview with somebody regarding the pet industry, how animal rights activists, their agenda is really the opposite of what they say their agenda is, you know? | |
| And it seems like a lot of these kind of movements have been hijacked by nefarious kind of goals. | |
| A hundred percent. And that's a really, you know, you say that how, you know, and I always say the majority of the country, you know, and even the Western world, like we live in the most tolerant and accepting time in history. | |
| Ninety-nine percent of Americans and just people in general don't care what adults do anymore. | |
| You know, the gay rights movement, we fought for our rights and we won. | |
| And me, as well as everybody else in Gays Against Groomers and millions of other gay people, Like I wanted to end the fight there like okay let's just go back and live our lives you know like everybody else in the world um and not make a big deal of things anymore like but then of course you know they kept pushing and I call it the alphabet mafia or alphabet inc because you know the the movement the lgbtq plus movement is very different from gay lesbian bi or trans | |
| individuals you know overwhelmingly so Yeah, I never understood why we kept pushing and pushing and pushing for more stuff like all we wanted was equality, you know, and any freedom loving American or just any American really that truly believes in the ideals of America should be supporting that all Americans, you know, get equal rights under the law. | |
| Oh, and that's where the fight should have ended. | |
| So and, you know, But, like you said, most people were just fine with whatever people want to do. | |
| But, yeah, the problem started, really, when they decided to go after children. | |
| And it feels like it almost happened overnight, but at the same time, you can see the history and it bubbling up. | |
| It's just really sad because, you know, the gay community fought... | |
| For, you know, to rid these stereotypes of especially gay men, you know, like being pedagogy and whatnot. | |
| And and we finally the gay community achieved like equal standing in society and for the most part, you know, became integrated into society and just seen as regular people, which we are. | |
| But the radicals have advanced things so far that now what they're doing to kids It's actually reflecting really poorly on all of us. | |
| I'm working associated with this stuff, and I am disgusted by it. | |
| We all are. It's like we just want to live our lives. | |
| Me and my fiancé, we just sit home and watch Netflix at night. | |
| We don't push anything on anyone. | |
| But people like us don't make the news. | |
| Gay people like us don't make the news. | |
| I mean, I do now a bit because of gays against rumors, but it's like your average gay person that's just living their lives, that's not what you see. | |
| You know, it's the radicals, the absolute lunatics that go viral, and then that starts being, you know, reflected on all of us. | |
| Yeah, if I was to think about it on a very deep, suspicious level, if I actually wanted to cause harm to the gay community, because, you know, I'm just saying hypothetically bigoted, powerful, whatever, I would insert these kind of influences within the gay community to clean the gay community. | |
| Because I think what these woke people have done, they've harmed the gay community for, like, you think those people in the Midwest that feel like there's, you know, books with literal, like, masturbation, you know, fellatio, you know? | |
| I was looking for the proper... | |
| You know, like, those people are gonna, I mean, they are gonna be affected by it. | |
| They're gonna be traumatized by this. | |
| So to me, I'm just, like, I'm really confused as to why this destructive agenda has been set forth. | |
| Right, and I say that all the time from Gays Against Groomers. | |
| Like, we're always, like, the people that are pushing this disgusting stuff on kids and doing this to kids are doing more harm to gay and trans people than the biggest homophobe or transphobe could ever... | |
| You know, like this is setting us back decades, decades. | |
| The public is looking, you know, there's actual data that's out that shows that acceptance of LGBT people is drastically declining over the past few years for the first time in a long time. | |
| And obviously, you know, the radicals and the groomers, they'll say this is all anti-LGBTQ rhetoric, you know, whenever you try and talk out about protecting kids. | |
| And it's like, no, what you're doing is anti-LGBTQ, whatever, you know, like, You doing this is hurting us. | |
| So our mission with Gays Against Groomers is twofold. | |
| First and foremost, obviously, it's protecting the kids and stopping this evil agenda because they are destroying an entire generation. | |
| But also to save our own community. | |
| Yeah. We gotta bring things back to sanity because if our rights ever do get rolled away or rolled back, it will be completely the fault of these people. | |
| And I don't know if they know that or if they know that and they're doing it on purpose for that. | |
| It's crazy. | |
| Turns out people have a problem with pedophiles and with mutilating children. | |
| People aren't radicals to oppose that. | |
| They're the radicals for wanting to push it. | |
| Yeah, yeah. We had a TikTok video where this mom is bragging that at two years old, because her son wanted to play with girls' toys, she started transitioning her. | |
| Him. And I'm just like, by the time he's been on drugs for the last two years, the Charlotte's four now, and she's bragging about this on TikTok. | |
| It's so bad. | |
| And that's just one, you know, you could find a hundred of these videos scrolling, you know, any given day, but it's horrifying. | |
| And, you know, beyond just being damaging to our community and to children, it's actually like, you know, these leftists and these same people always screech about, you know, sexism and misogyny and all this stuff. | |
| But then they're looking at little kids like a little girl, for example, That happens to like sports and wearing baseball caps instead of dresses and playing with Barbies, that just because of that, that means she's a boy? | |
| So what? So girls can't like sports or G.I. Joes? | |
| It's so regressive. | |
| It's brought back actual sexism and actual misogyny. | |
| As a conservative, I always laughed at those labels being thrown around by the left. | |
| But this is actual misogyny and actual sexism. | |
| I always call it woke homophobia because they are transing these gay youth. | |
| For the most part, kids don't have a sexuality until they're older. | |
| They hit puberty, even older, whatever. | |
| Because they're not sexual beings, but, you know, the truth is that these younger kids that often portray, like, more gender non-conforming traits, they grow up to be gay, you know? | |
| And so these people are transing the gay away, you know? | |
| Really? That's what it is. | |
| We always say, hashtag save the tomboys, because, you know, all of us in Gays Against Groomers, we see ourselves in these kids, you know? | |
| I was a tomboy, I'm still a tomboy, I wear men's clothes, but, like, obviously, not one day in my life did I want to be a boy or a man, you know? | |
| And it's like, we're... | |
| You're happy, like, nobody's been at two years old and transitioned you to, like, a man. | |
| We're horrified seeing what's happening. | |
| And like, if I would have grown up in this generation and my parents were a little like, you know, blinded by this and wrapped up in it, they would have transitioned me medically and destroyed my life. | |
| Because I am a happy... | |
| I am a happy lesbian woman. | |
| I've never wanted to be anything but who I am. | |
| And that's who I am. And it's sad that these parents and these doctors are robbing children of this, of who they are, really. | |
| There's something to be said about parental rights, obviously. | |
| But But no parent has the right to make a permanent decision with their child's body. | |
| Elective. You know, it's one thing if your kid needs heart surgery to stay alive. | |
| But elective procedures and drugs that will have lifelong complications, like, nobody has a right to do that to their child. | |
| Yeah. And we've been seeing too many videos of people regretting this. | |
| I mean, I just saw a video on Instagram where the male to female transition individual was basically talking about all the horrors and, you know, they're like, they try to sell it to you like it's like the most rosy thing on the planet. | |
| And she's like, medically, it's like my body's a wreck right now. | |
| Yeah, no, it devastates bodies. | |
| I mean, the drug Lupron, which is a puberty blocker, it's always, you know, they call it puberty blocker, but really it's a chemical castration drug. | |
| Historically, Lupron has been given to sex offenders to chemically castrate them. | |
| Mm-hmm. And they're giving this to children before their bodies are even developed, you know, and also women with endometriosis take Lupron. | |
| And, you know, I've seen a lot of women comment about it on our post saying, like, how ravaged their body is, how they have these irreversible side effects, and that it's really, really damaged them physically and therefore mentally. | |
| And it's like, no child can... | |
| They're using this entire generation of kids as lab rats. | |
| Nobody knows the long-term side effects of these drugs on their mental health, on the procedures. | |
| But from what we do know, the stuff we do know is already horrifying. | |
| And it should be illegal in this country. | |
| And we're really glad to see more and more bills pop up. | |
| We're testifying on a lot of bills. | |
| Every week we're testifying all over the country. | |
| So... Here's the thing, by the way. | |
| I wanted to bring up the legal implications of all this woke movement, right? | |
| Because it's something that nobody talks about. | |
| In terms of The laws are already in place for this stuff not to happen. | |
| The laws are in place. | |
| But because there's an agenda. | |
| See, under the Constitution, under these, like, you know, idea of human rights, whether it's Magna Carta or the U.S. Constitution, men, women are the ones that have these constitutional rights which stem from, quote-unquote, God-given rights, right? | |
| Right. Once you are not a man, if you're like one of the other 77 sexes, according to the woke movement, you're no longer, like, you don't want those human rights. | |
| Like, you literally fall off of that. | |
| So, you know, we see this movement towards tyranny, destroying the children, you know, pumping us with these COVID vaccines. | |
| A lot of people seem to be passing away from that. | |
| Some people think that a billion people are going to pass. | |
| So, I mean, it's like, it's obvious there's an agenda, destructive agenda, but I mean, could it be that part of the reason that they're doing this is to basically make sure that we become more like shuttle, like more like drones as humans, man, woman with God-given rights? | |
| Yeah, I definitely think that that's inspiration behind it, you know, and the motivation. | |
| Like, I think that, you know, I mean, you could go and look into theories about population control, you know, and these drugs are effectively sterilizing these kids, you know, and future adults to where they won't be able to reproduce. | |
| So there's that. | |
| There's also the transhumanism aspect, which is man constructing, changing God's design and just doing all kinds of things to edit and alter and make some transhumanism. | |
| I mean, literally transhuman, you know, not just transgender, but like transforming these human beings into some genetically modified being. | |
| And it's very scary. | |
| I mean, yeah, I think that the main motivators are probably those things and also, you know, just the money behind it also. | |
| You know, like what we see with big pharma, with the COVID shots and everything. | |
| You know, they never cared about health. | |
| You know, so they care about the huge profits they made from this, you know? | |
| I see actually like the COVID vaccination motives similar to like the transitioning kid thing, you know? | |
| It's like the motives are very, I mean, they are the same if you really break it down. | |
| The money, population control, so... | |
| Yeah. And on top of that, with sexualizing kids, I mean, we know that, you know, the people that control us are pedophiles, you know, like that's kind of a well-known, established thing. | |
| Now there's a lot of proof out there insinuating that. | |
| And I think that they are using our community. | |
| community to to shield pedophiles to normalize pedophilia you know and they're doing it in our name and it's hurting us and we didn't consent to this so yeah there's a lot of different angles and motivations behind it but it is evil through and through and you know it's just crazy to us that so many people are just going along with this you know But you saw what happened with COVID once again. | |
| People just went along with this insanity because they're scared to stand up and be the only one. | |
| The worst thing in the world for these progressive people to be called is a bigot, right? | |
| That's why they're using our community to do it, because they know if you speak out against it, they can just call you a hateful, transphobic bigot, you know? | |
| And that's why our movement, our organization is so important, because we step in in the middle and say, no, you're not going to get away with saying that anymore, because we're saying it now, and you can't call us those things. | |
| They try. We're written up as an anti-trans extremist hate group, but it's like, we have trans people in our organization. | |
| Obviously, we don't care what adults do, you know, as long as they leave the kids alone. | |
| Yeah, yeah. It's, uh, Jamie, what you're doing is amazing. | |
| Seriously, much love and respect to you. | |
| Like, we love on this show, particularly on our America Happens Network, we love the outliers. | |
| We know how hard it is to go out there, go against the grain, go against the BS of the media and these, like, interest groups. | |
| I mean, have you been attacked? | |
| Have they made your life hard because you've decided to take this path? | |
| Yeah. I mean, I have. | |
| It's funny because, like I said, I was an online personality. | |
| You know, I had a big following for six years and my last name, I kept it private. | |
| I managed to never get my last name leaked. | |
| And then two weeks after I launched Gays Against Groomers, all the T.R.A.s, the trans rights activists found my last name and put it everywhere. | |
| You know, so I was planning on coming out with my full name, obviously, to back this project, like as the president and founder. | |
| I was going to do that, but they did it for me. | |
| Ever since the very beginning, they've been pretty vicious, but honestly, I kind of live for that. | |
| It fuels me. I get death threats every day. | |
| You know, that's okay. I would think that I wasn't doing a good enough job unless those threats were coming in and unless all these, you know, the slander being said about us and written about us. | |
| They're obviously terrified of us because they didn't expect people from inside the community to actually fight back. | |
| You know, like I said, all they have is writing people off as bigots and hateful, transphobes, homophobes, whatever. | |
| That just want to protect kids. | |
| That was their only tactic because they don't have the truth. | |
| They can't stand on any truth. | |
| They don't have the science. | |
| So all they have is intimidation and censorship. | |
| But they're scared of us, of Gays Against Groomers, and me... | |
| Because they can't shut us up that way, you know? | |
| It's like, oh, the cat's getting out of the bag with us. | |
| And, yeah, like, we've been banned. | |
| Gays Against Groomers has been banned from, I think, eight or nine platforms now. | |
| Wow. And, yeah, and that was, like, in four months, four or five months. | |
| You know, we're at, like, eight months now. | |
| But I got banned, me personally, and Gays Against Groomers got banned from PayPal and Venmo, Google. | |
| It's so disgusting. | |
| I know. Did you get into their freaking box? | |
| I mean, it's... You know, it's funny because isn't that, like, homophobic, you know, for coming up to ban a group of gay people? | |
| Like, you know, it's just wild, like, the mental gymnastics these people do, but, you know, it's okay. | |
| Like, we keep fighting through, and anytime we get canceled or deplatformed, you know, it only brings us a lot more support. | |
| A lot more people hear about us, you know, so it's fine. | |
| They can try whatever they want, but like Gays Against Groomers and I will not stop until we end this agenda. | |
| And we will. Well, that's some heroic words. | |
| In closing, Jamie, is there anything that you want to talk about? | |
| Any websites, whatever, what you're up to? | |
| You know, the mic is on. Well, we just, in our organization, so we're finally, we laid all the groundwork. | |
| Like, it was a lot. You know, we've kind of been playing catch-up with the public because I wasn't expecting Gays Against Groomers to grow so fast or, like, to get so much national and international attention. | |
| I thought maybe in, like, six months to a year, we'd have, like, 5,000 or 10,000 followers. | |
| You know, maybe some blog would write about us. | |
| I don't know. But as you've seen, you know, that's been... | |
| That's not how things really worked. | |
| I've been on Tucker Carlson like four times alone. | |
| It's just been crazy. | |
| So we've been laying the foundation and now we're at a good point to really bring on a lot more people. | |
| We just started launching chapters a few months ago. | |
| We're at, I think, 26 chapters across the country and we have a few abroad as well. | |
| And I guess I would just say, We're completely independent. | |
| We have no money, you know, besides what our followers give us and supporters. | |
| So if you, to your viewers, if you guys, you know, think the work we're doing is important and you support us, you can just go to our site that's at the bottom of the screen, gazeagainstrumors.com. | |
| You can see everywhere to follow us. | |
| You can sign up to volunteer and there's ways to donate either by getting some merch or making a contribution directly from the site. | |
| So, Yeah, I just tell everybody to follow us and watch this space because we are busy. | |
| We are constantly like, you know, that's the thing now having all these chapters, like we're at like dozens of things a week, you know, all over this network. | |
| It's not just me. We have like, I think, almost 90 people in the organization now. | |
| So it's, it's, it's Very exciting. | |
| It's crazy that so much has happened, but we're still just getting started. | |
| We still haven't even reached anywhere near the capacity that we want to be working in. | |
| It's going to take time, and unfortunately, it takes money. | |
| None of us profit from this. | |
| Everything we raise goes right back into the movement. | |
| Everybody is actually volunteer-only, even me. | |
| It's a passion project. | |
| But, yeah, no, I'm super grateful for you having me on, and sorry, I know I'm a bit of a chatter. | |
| It's hard for me. No, you're amazing, Jamie, honestly. | |
| Like, it's like, this is really cool what you're doing, and like I said, much respect. | |
| Thank you. And, yeah, we need you out there, and, you know, viewers, definitely support. | |
| You know, go to that URL. This is a great cause. | |
| Jamie, thank you so much for showing up to the Blood Money Podcast. | |
| We'd love to have you on at a future date, and, yeah. | |
| Anytime. It's been great. | |
| All right, you take care. Thank you. | |
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