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Sept. 30, 2023 - Blood Money
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Blood Money Episode 32 with Seth Keshel "What Happened In Arizona and Nevada during Election 22"
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Today we have a very special guest, Seth Keschel.
How are you doing, Seth? All right, Vim.
Good to be on the show. Hopefully this time the tech will check out and get the job done for us.
Yeah, we had to cancel last time because we were having storms and the internet was really bad.
So, Seth, you know, we're always talking about depressing things.
Let's start with something fun a little.
You know, the incident in Nashville that happened with my producing partner, could you have Trump explain what happened?
We were there at the JW Marriott, a beautiful hotel.
Quite frankly, not as wonderful as the Trump properties, but we've never seen anything like it in Nashville ever, in history maybe ever.
And Travis pulls up in the car and he gets out.
He sees Captain K, and Captain K is a big guy.
He's more than six and a half feet tall.
We've never seen anyone as big in election integrity ever.
And he's well over 230 pounds.
And Travis comes up and he tries to accost him.
We've never seen anything like it.
And the captain had to put hands on him and put him over the hood of the car and tell him to stop and to wake up.
It was over just like that.
Believe me. That's awesome, man.
That's awesome. So, like you were saying, you're like the biggest guy in election integrity.
I've always wondered, like, you know, you talk about intelligence disciplines, right?
You obviously have an edge.
And where do you derive that edge from?
What is it that makes you, you know, be able to do the work that you do better than most?
Well, I think, like I shared with you one time, I think people only listen to me because I'm tall and I tell jokes.
I like to try to make things specific where we go.
So it's only useful if the information you give is what we call actionable.
Not necessarily correct, but actionable.
Can we do something with it?
Does it make sense to the layperson?
Because if you have to go too deep to explain something, then you might have already lost the audience.
Gotcha. Gotcha.
And is it like specific kind of like training that you've had that makes you, you know, really kind of like a bullet when it comes to this as opposed to a shotgun approach?
Sure. Well, the learned experience is the political science where you understand the trends and you get involved in politics and you understand campaigns.
The skill behind it is the ability to handle numbers.
Numbers scare a lot of people, just like public speaking scares a lot of people.
So with the numbers, I've always had that capability in between my ears.
I could flip over a baseball card when I was a kid, quickly scan the stats on the card, and I could tell you quickly where a player's peak was and where he began to climb as a player and when his decline began, where his legs probably started failing, and I could pick that stuff up.
And I could also find very quickly the abnormal seasons in which something stands out, really Wow.
Read a number or to say that this is the trend in the stats, but how do you actually make that matter, make it make sense?
You know, when I can tell you that Florida, Pennsylvania, and Michigan move in the same direction in every election since 1932, only to change suddenly in 2020, with Florida moving far to the right and the other two states moving off to the left, well, that's something that makes sense to most people.
Why is it that these states are all in one So, like, November 5, 2020, you decide this is going to be, like, for the foreseeable future, this is what I'm doing.
I didn't decide that then.
I remember watching the 2020 returns on November 3rd.
And I think around midnight, they called Florida for Trump.
Midnight, maybe on the East Coast.
So that would have been 11 o'clock Texas time.
And that was a slam dunk really probably a couple hours before that when Miami didn't come back like they expected for Biden.
So Florida goes to Trump.
North Carolina was going to Trump.
Georgia was also going to Trump.
Ohio and Iowa had already gone to Trump.
Texas is to Trump. And you remember that Fox News called Arizona to stop that momentum because if Trump would have pulled Arizona, Georgia was already in the bag.
That's something that people sometimes forget, but the New York Times had Georgia in the bag for Trump at 99% likelihood with a margin of greater than 300,000 votes, which is actually what my numbers check out to still for Georgia today.
They had to call Arizona to stop the election, to stop the progress, and to stop the count in the Rust Belt.
Because the decisive electoral votes with Arizona in the bag puts Trump at 259.
So Wisconsin would have been a guaranteed tie.
Michigan or Pennsylvania would have won the election for Trump on election night, like a knockout blow.
So that had to be avoided.
And around that time, I went to bed on November 3rd.
By went to bed, I mean I literally went and laid in a bed physically and did not sleep.
And a couple hours later, I woke up just sick to my stomach knowing what was going on because in that time frame, they had snatched Wisconsin and Michigan.
They pulled those on the early morning hours of November the 4th.
So that left Pennsylvania. In which Trump had a lead in Pennsylvania.
And then of course they grabbed Georgia up as well.
So that day I spent the day sick, went to bed really early on November 4th and on the 5th I woke up feeling like a different person.
Like I no longer operated in the two dimensional world of The Democrats have to lose or the world is bad.
Understanding the corruption that was at hand, I started firing off my findings.
I was just a freelancer at that point.
There was no Captain K public person or anybody that people followed.
I was just somebody that happened to call every state correctly in 2016 with my models on voter trends and voter registration.
And I started sending these numbers off to local Republican parties.
Some of the larger counties in Pennsylvania that weren't Allegheny or Philadelphia, but Westmoreland's of the world.
Getting them to people in Wisconsin, Michigan that might listen but they really didn't have either didn't care about it or they were on vacation like in Minnesota or they didn't think they could do anything with it so finally I just threw a ball up to I just threw a Hail Mary out there and I went on LinkedIn and this is already public knowledge the media talks about it I went on LinkedIn and I found someone that I had sent a direct message to four years prior and that was General Michael Flynn and I started flooding his box With
my graphics and charts that an intelligence officer would share with another intelligence officer.
And within a few weeks, I was writing statistical affidavits to challenge the 2020 election results in the courts.
And as you know, the court cases failed.
And even in the Supreme Court, Texas versus Pennsylvania was our best shot.
The Supreme Court decided not to hear that out.
So that is how I wound up here.
And then when the audit movement kicked up in 2021, my numbers are very easy for people to understand.
I can show you in your state, in Nevada, clearly that Donald Trump has at least an 8.8% margin of victory in that state, carrying both Clark and Washoe counties in a blowout win over Joe Biden there.
So I can go state by state, county by county, and show disparities.
And if there's not a disparity, then I indicate as such.
And this is, you're talking about when you said the blowout in Nevada, you're talking about 2020 or 2024?
2020, and also in 2022, the entire Republican statewide ticket should have won the executive offices.
Wow, wow. Let's get into that in a second.
Before we get into that, you know, you've been doing this, so you had a pretty significant life change around the 2020 election.
What has the cost of this fight been for you?
Well, there's been a few gains that I should mention first.
I've got a ton of new friends, and It's a movement that can be difficult to operate in.
The infighting in this movement is terrible and it's childish.
It is absolutely unacceptable, the level of personal bitterness and infighting that exists within this movement.
And I've been very vocal with people about that because it's not productive.
In the military, you don't have to like everybody that you serve with.
You have to get the mission done, though.
And if you persist in personal issues and drama, then if you're an enlisted soldier, you're going to be Article 15.
If you're an NCO or officer, your report cards are going to suck to the point where, within a couple of years, your career is washed out.
So people need to learn how to get along.
But I've gained a lot of friends, a lot of valuable life experience.
Personally, I've refined a lot of things and qualities and traits about myself.
I've developed a much thicker skin than I used to have.
So, you know, that's a product of the media going after your work.
And they really don't like to talk about work.
They like to talk about associations and inferred guilt over other things.
But they typically don't highlight any of my points because they're common sense or any of my findings because they resonate, they're easy to grasp by certain people.
You might be able to defend this point, but how about this one?
What about this?
How does this work?
How does this happen?
But as far as losses go, it's a dog eat dog world.
I was canceled from my day job in January of 2022.
So just over a year ago, I lost my $150,000 day job.
And for about six months when I came on the scenes in the election integrity movement, I had...
I've done both. I'd worked in transportation sales before I found this and during the period that I was in it.
And eventually the hit pieces caught up and I'm pretty confident that my leadership team at my old company found out that, hey, one of your top salesmen is I was moonlighting at night talking about this controversial issue and Reuters threw a big hit piece, New York Times Magazine threw a big hit piece, and one day out of nowhere it was, hey, today's your last day, congratulations.
So I had to make it on my own, and of course that has its own challenges too, where a lot of people, like I mentioned on the infighting, want to make big issues about anybody making any money whatsoever.
Yeah, I mean, let's talk about that.
You lose this pretty decent six-figure salary job, and now your revenue, I'm assuming, is coming through avenues having to do with the freedom fight.
Correct. So that could be on ambassadorship.
So, for example, Public Square.
Public Square is an outstanding company.
PublicSquare.com, PublicSQ.com.
That is a way for patriot business owners.
To put their companies out there to be found by other patriots.
Just like patriots always flock to places like Chick-fil-A to patronize Chick-fil-A, patriot businesses can get a bit of an advertisement too.
So if I run to the next town over, if I go to Stephenville, Texas, I can look on Public Square and I can look in Stephenville which restaurants are signed up on Public Square or if I want to go buy guns and ammo, which sporting goods stores are on Public Square.
When they're on there, those are your anti-mandate Anti-woke companies and also it's a bigger platform than that.
You can find jobs with companies that want to hire like-minded people.
That's something where people sign up.
I get a commission off of that.
Then there's events.
If you get paid at events, some of my events are pro bono, others are not.
For Substack, I put out free articles and I put out paid articles.
No matter how many free articles you put out, that one paid article you're going to have somebody screaming about it's all about the money, even when they have full access as a free subscriber to everything else.
So if we don't support our own people, then we don't really stand a chance because the left dominates.
The left absolutely dominates economics.
And it is not even close.
And if you don't believe me, you can look at the spending that goes into their candidates.
Yeah. During every election cycle, especially look right out there in Arizona and Nevada, the money that went in Georgia that went to back Democrat candidates.
So we really don't have the greatest idea of how to dominate the economic space, even though we're the ones that promote capitalism and the other side, their grassroots promote socialism.
It's quite a bit of a twist.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, on the topic of the economics, we do a series called Follow the Money, and we actually did an episode on the Attorney General, you know, the fight for office between Seagal Chadha and Aaron Ford, and we went through basically all his finances and all her finances.
And it's crazy.
Like most of the money in large amounts, and I'm talking about max donations of five, you know, sometimes when it's a husband, you know, wife situation, it's 10,000.
So it's between that five and $10,000 window coming in plentiful amounts from places like New York, Illinois.
And California, large amounts of money, not many, you know, kind of mom and pop donors.
Seagal Chata on the other hand had a lot of mom and pop donors, like $25, $50, $75 and that sort of thing.
I mean, that to me just strikes me as so weird on its principle that you have somebody in Nevada being elected based upon, you know, large clumps of liberal money coming from out of state.
I agree with that, and I would actually support the opinions of many of the Bernie-style so-called progressives on money and politics.
I think that money and politics has absolutely corrupted the intent of the system, which is to field people that are actually of the people out there.
I actually do not have an axe to grind with people that don't share my ideology, even people on the center left or maybe the left, as long as they can defend their points.
Because if you had a fair system of elections, which is what my goal is in the first place, then it would go to the battlefield of ideas at the poll.
And certainly, just like they do everywhere, the left would be clobbered in a fair election.
And that would eventually beat some sense into their political positions until they made a little bit of sense.
People often use these ideological labels, liberal, conservative, and they get all crossed There's a lot of people that vote Republican that aren't conservative.
I'm personally a right-wing conservative, and I have typical right-wing, even evangelical views.
But if I were given supreme governorship of the world, I don't know that I would govern in exact accordance to my ideology.
I'm more of a pragmatist than anything.
For example, building a wall is not a conservative solution.
Conservative pertaining to size and scope of government being small or limited, that is not a conservative solution, but it's a needed solution.
It's a pragmatic solution to an imminent problem and threat to the country.
So we've allowed ideology to cloud problem solving, and that's probably by design.
That's probably, yeah, exactly. It's probably by design.
Before we get into the specifics of Arizona and Nevada, why are we still, two years after serious concerns have come out of election issues and integrity, why are we still talking about fixing the problem?
Is it simply because the courts won't even accept the cases?
The courts are a big problem.
The legislative bodies are another big problem.
There in Nevada, until Lombardo took office as governor, you had a Democrat trifecta in the state.
So now you don't.
But in Arizona, there was a Republican trifecta in 2021 and 2022 when there was a chance to pass some legislation to make 2022's election actually work to a degree.
There's a lot of blame that is passed around about the Maricopa County audit from 2021, and it's all nonsense.
The legislature's job was to receive the findings from the audit, which of course, the audit wasn't perfect.
There were things about it that weren't good.
There were other things that were good.
But to be fair, it was the very first of its kind.
There is no definition for a full forensic audit because that's not really a thing.
It was really a new thing, and it wasn't full.
It didn't go into everything. But the audit still turned up a ton of findings that show that the 2020 election in Maricopa County, let's say, was a third-world farce.
It wasn't really an election at all.
That would pertain to signature match, corrupted voter files and records, altered records.
Mm-hmm. And the legislature did nothing about it.
And that's a shame.
That's separate from the problems with the courts.
The courts, even in the 2022 election, I've heard somebody put it recently that in 2020 there was a Bigfoot sighting but nobody got it on video.
In 2022 Bigfoot's on video.
So we saw it happen in real time in Arizona and in Nevada.
Nevada's a little bit different from Arizona almost the exact inverse of Arizona with the way they count ballots there.
But in Arizona About November the 9th, I knew what was going on because we had a three and a half to one.
Actually, I knew it on Election Day with that video that I posted first thing on Election Day with them coming out of that heavily Republican polling center in Anthem, Arizona, saying that there's the door three problem.
But really, within about 18 hours of the election, I could see that with a three and a half to one Republican election day turnout in Arizona...
And everybody's like, don't worry, Hobbs is up right now, but there's still 500,000 election day ballots to count, and they're three and a half to one Republican.
And then all of a sudden, actually, it's 400,000.
Wait, it's 320,000.
Wait, it's still good.
If we get this much of it, Kerry can win by 50 votes.
And that's when you know that it's, they're draining the oil out of out into the pan and they're slice, dice, slice, dice.
And then all of a sudden here's a hops win coming out of a three and a half to one Republican election day turnout with the state treasurer who was a Republican winning by 12 points.
So you know, the issues in Arizona are obvious in Carrie Lake's lawsuit in December.
She pointed out that 72% of Americans believed her claim that Maricopa County deliberately sabotaged its own election and disenfranchised its own voters.
And after that two-day trial, which I don't think the courts counted on them presenting such, Curt Olson's team presenting such compelling evidence, I would be willing to bet 75 to 80 percent of the country realizes Maricopa County's election in 2022 was a travesty.
And Katie Hobbs herself knows that, which is why she barely shows her face after she's been sworn in to the governor's mansion for about four weeks now.
Wow. I mean, what are the specific things, actions that were taken in order to create the fraud?
Well, there's the front end.
I will tell you, based on my 10 true points for election integrity, the 10 points for true election integrity, the voter rolls are swollen with fraudulent entries.
You can see that.
By the way, could I interrupt you real quick on that topic about the voter rolls?
So we spoke to a whistleblower that claimed that between elections what they do is because when you stuff the voter rolls, you could always claim, oh, it was a clerical error, But apparently, she claimed that between elections, even when candidates clean out the voter rolls, take out all the dead people, all that stuff, they just reinsert enough of a buffer in there to basically steal any election.
I mean, have you heard that sort of a story?
100%. There's a lot of oversight rules and regulations that apply to the voter rolls.
And how they're maintained.
So the counties oftentimes have very little impact on their roles.
The best really you can get a lot of them to do is say yeah we'll pursue removing the fraudulent registrations.
But it's very clear Arizona's population growth is extremely consistent, and it has been for four decades.
So people that want to say, well, the state's changing, it's growing, here's a newsflash.
It's been growing, and so has Texas, and so has Florida.
So just because a state is growing doesn't mean that it's swelling up with left-wing voters, because right-wing voters move too.
And Florida's voter registration rules and North Carolina's all suggest that they're becoming heavily more Republican because the registrations tell you that.
Now, Arizona has heavily swollen voter rolls and that started in the 2016 election cycle.
And you can see that there. Donald Trump's gains in 2020 in Arizona We're all-time Republican records in a Republican stronghold and in Maricopa County.
And somehow they were surpassed by Democrat growth three times stronger than what they have when they grow at all.
And that's not a given that they will.
So the front end, to answer your question, the front end happens with the swelling of the voter rolls.
And then the systems that are put in place to enable the elections to work like that.
So weeks of an early voting period.
And then Arizona has tons of mail-in voting, and that's something that's been in the last two decades since Jan Brewer was Secretary of State under Janet Napolitano.
And then you have the mail-in vote with the early period and now ballot harvesters going out.
Well, you say Arizona has made ballot harvesting against the law.
Well, that's great, but what are the penalties?
Florida is the only state that I know of that has made ballot harvesting a felony.
There in Nevada, ballot harvesting is the way of the land, and that's one of the only states that I will say that we need to ballot harvest in because that's legal there, and that's the way you're going to do it if you're going to do it at all.
And then first opportunity, you rip it out.
So you have the front end, the rolls, and then the mail-in system, which is open-ended and open for signature verification fraud, as you can see, returning votes and ballots of people that don't exist.
So they know where they're at.
They know where to harvest them from.
And then they go drop them in unsupervised drop boxes.
Which you can see Mark Elias' team is suing Melody Jennings there in Arizona for volunteering to watch drop boxes.
To me, if you don't have anything to worry about, then why would you be intimidated by somebody watching you put an envelope in a box?
There's a camera that watches me withdraw money from an ATM every time I need cash.
I don't have a problem with that because I'm not going to hit it with a baseball bat until it gushes out currency.
So that's all on the front end.
And then we get to election day.
And with statistics, they have dark statisticians on their side, like me.
And then they look at where the votes are going to...
Come from. Who hasn't voted yet?
Well, this precinct normally goes 75% Republican, and only 25% of their role has returned a ballot.
And most of that is Democrat.
Translation, we've got 3,000 votes that are going to come from this thing on Election Day based on normal turnout, and I think 90% of that is going to be Republican.
So then they can go create a scenario over there where there's not enough paper.
The tabulators don't work right.
The machines don't fire up correctly.
The lines are going to be this long.
And, you know, can you imagine if elections were in the middle of the summer like the primaries?
It's hotter than hell out there.
And so they can create a problem and estimate based on how much the vote came in early, what kind of manipulation has to happen on election day to suppress the vote.
So that's how you get Richard Barris out there on the stand, who's a great data guy.
And, you know, he can say that with certainty, Carrie Lake would have won the governor's race, even with the fraud on the front end, if the machines would have worked right on election day.
So they pulled out all the stops.
I call that the spike strip that Katie Hobbs and company threw out there.
And it's another thing that Katie Hobbs was even allowed to oversee her own election, which is a damn shame.
Insane. I mean, it's a clear conflict of interest, but nobody's, like, upholding the law.
Nobody's upholding the law.
Then you have Runbeck that's inserted in the middle of this mess that is somehow tasked with getting all these ballots back and reporting them in.
So there's no chain of custody evident in the election there either.
Maricopa County's election is not, it really shouldn't even be afforded the dignity of being called an election at all.
I mean, what do you do though going into 2024?
Like, how is Trump supposed to win an election or DeSantis when, you know, they seem to have all these key states covered?
Well, it gets worse from there.
Maricopa County is about 62% of Arizona's vote.
And when you combine that with Pima County, which is Metro Tucson, you're talking about seven-ninths of the state's vote comes from those two counties.
Wow. Pima County is 60-40 Democrat.
Maybe if you get rid of the fraud, it's slightly Democrat.
Maricopa County is now about 50-50.
In reality, Maricopa County is about 55-45 Republican.
That's seven-ninths of the vote between those two.
It gets worse in Nevada because between Clark and Washoe counties, you're talking about seven-eighths of the vote.
So the other small counties in Nevada are only an eighth of the vote.
And then you have them report first, and those two counties that are fairly competitive can just go find enough votes to overcome the rest of the state, which is strongly Republican.
So, how do you deal with it?
You need one tree in this forest to fall over.
And that is why you can go back on my social media around the time of November 9th or 10th.
It's all hands on deck on Nevada and Arizona.
Because I think Cary Lake was the most important symbolic candidate for the movement that we needed to get in office as a power figure.
But I think the two most tactically important people in the election were Mark Fincham for Secretary of State of Arizona and Jim Marchant for the same office in Nevada.
Because if you get either of them in office, they can blow the lid off of the election mess and it will resonate in the rest of the states that are highly corrupted, which all of the states appear to have manipulation in 2020.
But I'm talking about the Electoral College slate for 2024.
That's why they were not allowed in office.
Wow. So, I mean, what do we do now that they weren't allowed in office?
Like, are we pretty much looking at a scenario where we're basically screwed in 2024?
I don't think so. You still have...
Part of this fight is fought in the court of public opinion.
That number is probably at terminal velocity.
If somebody doesn't want to believe in election fraud after 2022, then they're just not going to.
There are some people that now believe in this stuff because of Carrie Lake's race.
Mark Fincham, and the stuff that happens in states like Michigan, Pennsylvania, where Donald Trump wasn't on the ballot.
So this is twice, two major elections in a row, and if you follow me, I believe that this massive manipulation began in 2018.
We just didn't catch it because it didn't impact the office of the president, and it kind of fell in line with standard political science of the president's party gets beat up in the midterms.
So you're going to have more court action, and hopefully it's going to have something to do with signature verification, because that's what Carrie Lake's team is pushing for with the appeals court.
Now if the appeals court fumbles the ball on that...
You've got the Arizona Supreme Court and then you have beyond that the U.S. Supreme Court.
So I think that the even Carrie Lakes case is far from flickered out.
I think that's going to continue to go.
And I've got big news that I expect to break here in the next couple weeks.
And I put that out last week and of course everybody was like, well you can't tease people like that.
Well the reason I put it out was because we don't need to have people fall into hopelessness over the elections fight.
This news that I'm going to put out, provided it stays intact, should be a big-time boost for election activists.
The elections fight is not going back in the tube, I'll tell you that.
Well, we look forward to that, man.
So you're saying in a couple of weeks you'll have an announcement?
Maybe sooner. I think in the next couple of weeks that I should be able to put that out.
The reason it's not out is because it's still in development and maybe much bigger than if it were to put it out today.
You call this the civil rights issue of our time.
I mean, civil rights, definitely a lot of people weren't punished for the evil that was happening prior to the civil rights movement.
I mean, is there any accountability to this stuff, people that rigged this system?
Are we going to find out all the players?
Yeah, I think that the current issue with the Biden classified document scandal stems to elections.
And here's why.
I wrote an article about this on my Substack.
So Joe Biden's own attorneys supposedly found his classified material.
These are the same attorneys that presumably would know something about the Hunter Biden laptop and all the corruption that can be uncovered in those documents on his laptop.
They didn't care about that.
They don't care about any of the other issues that Joe Biden is involved in.
But for some reason, they care about the classified documents, which could easily be shredded or discarded.
Classified documents don't look any different Well, somehow this is an issue that they're going to make something of.
Five months after they did the raid on Mar-a-Lago and supposedly have classified documents there.
So Joe Biden has now completed half of his term.
That means that the term belongs to him.
So if he were to leave office today and Kamala Harris took over, then she could run presumably twice and serve in the White House for 10 years.
I don't think this has much to do with Harris as it does getting Biden out of there because he is an unmitigated disaster.
His functionality was to be an oxygen breathing human being.
To take that office away from Donald Trump, whose agenda was a populist economic agenda that reoriented the world economy for 100 years.
People get lost in the ideology.
I don't really give a rip about conservative, liberal, or anything else.
The America First movement is about using America's resources and massive wealth and potential to reorient the entire world for 100 years.
away from China, away from this global stuff.
That's where you really get the fight between patriots, globalists, nationalists and whatnot.
But if Joe Biden comes out in the next couple of months and steps away from the office, then it's going to be, well, Joe Biden really stepped in it.
This is terrible. This is only the second time in history a president resigns.
That's bad. But, hey, he sure has a lot of honor to leave the White House and to own what he did.
Oh, hey, Donald Trump, you have a classified documents issue, too.
And this is the period where the media shows what was in the documents, how bad it is, the threat to security, which is ironic given that they didn't care about Clinton's server either.
But that's going to put all pressure on Team Trump to step aside as well.
And I think that it has to do with elections because we know what's going on with elections, and this can't last forever.
Just read history.
Corruption doesn't stay covered up forever.
And so if you can return elections to the establishment versus the establishment, R's versus D's, Then you can return to a system of elections that actually is semi-fair.
I'm not saying it's all fair, but you have discernible election trends and statistics in every election all the way through the 2016 presidential election.
Predictable levels of turnout, predictable political trends left or right based on voter registration, and you can also find them through the midterms of 2014.
And then starting in 2018, all that just burned up.
So no longer do we have the political science in our federal elections.
And in the 2020 election, boom, it's burned up.
So all of those bridges are burned.
So my figures and numbers burned in 2020.
So it's a perishable skill that I have.
It's like the last of its kind.
So I think that if you can return elections to the House, not the House of Representatives, but like the establishment House.
So let's say you get Harris versus Paul Ryan.
Well, they don't care who wins because whoever wins is going to be one of their own.
So we'll have a Republican or Democrat House or President and they'll arrange elections to make sure that the gridlock continues and they continue down this shared path of exporting America's wealth to the rest of the world and screwing over us.
Why do you think the judiciary has been consistently against this idea of actually diving into a case pertaining election fraud?
Well, you have the Occam's razor of that, which the most likely explanation is the explanation.
I think that no court wants to be the first to overturn a major election.
Now, they will overturn small elections.
There's news out today.
I posted it on my social media about New Jersey.
They're going to have a change in victors based on a few double-counted votes.
And that's just in one precinct.
So imagine if we can find 20 votes that are off per precinct in a county that's got 1,000 precincts.
That's a lot of votes. So I don't think that anybody wants to be the first to...
You know, say, alright, you're the sitting governor.
Now you're not the governor anymore.
Then you have the obvious explanations like blackmail or threats.
I mean, it's a very simple thing.
Can you imagine if Peter Thompson would have ordered a new election in Maricopa County or given the other relief, which is to call Carrie Lake the winner of the election?
To me, I think that would be a short-sighted ruling because the impact of the election in Maricopa County certainly deprived Mark Fincham, Abraham Homaday, and Blake Masters of victory as well.
So if he were to have ruled like that, there would have absolutely been left-wing mobs in the streets before he even took his robe off that night.
So I think that those are obvious things.
And I also think that That they were probably given their appointments on a conditional basis, too.
You're talking about they got the judge's seat because of certain conditions.
They were handpicked to make sure that you're going to keep your rulings like this.
I don't think there's very many judges that are capable of rendering a decision that would vacate a major election.
Nobody cares. I mean, I care, but nobody nationally is going to look at this city council seat in Ames, Iowa.
There were seven votes that came in that were after the bill, and we can't count them.
We're going to swap people out now.
I mean, so then what's the avenue that one has to take?
Or, I mean, is it just you're hoping to get one judge that has courage?
I think that eventually it'll happen one day, but I think that the safe money is on trying to get elections to go back under to where people don't talk about them anymore.
So if you can get a couple milquetoast candidates, look at Obama versus Romney.
Obama wasn't nearly as popular in his re-election as he was the first time around.
It was a race to the bottom in a number of states.
Obama lost 300,000 votes a pop in Pennsylvania and Michigan in his re-election.
But Romney was a failure with the working class.
So if you ever get an election like that again, where you actually have a lower turnout than the election before...
And you can discern political trend on that, then you're going to be back in a scenario where the establishment controls politics completely.
So in a way, the election fraud is a confirmation that there is a very viable movement of patriots in this country.
Otherwise, they wouldn't have to employ those methods to keep us at bay.
So people are gauging their happiness or success based on R&D victories, and unfortunately the consequence of where we've allowed the country to get for 50 or 60 years has us here in this fight for the survival of our way of life.
And really it's a great time to be alive if you look at it as the transformative history that will take place when we fix this system.
But we have to keep highlighting it, and that's why it can be repetitive and at times agonizing, but it's worth doing.
Yeah, and frankly, the judiciary, the judicial branch is just another self-policing organization that's, I mean, it's not going to clean itself up, just like all the other industrial complexes that aren't going to clean themselves up unless, you know, it's outside, you know, the legislature's not doing it.
I mean, it's all these like checks and balances seem to be failing.
They are. The courts are the biggest problem that we have.
The legislatures, of course, are problematic as well.
I just spoke with a friend of mine in Minnesota, a newly elected state house rep.
And the Democrats now hold the trifecta in Minnesota.
Well, their order of business this week was to push through illegal aliens can get driver's licenses in Minnesota.
Next week they're going for all driver's licenses are registered to vote, motor voter.
So now you're going to have a flood of illegal aliens getting in the rolls in Minnesota.
That's how they operate. So the courts are corrupt, the legislatures are corrupt, but it's all because we did not see this corruption slowly encroaching upon the country for decades.
I mean, could I propose something?
This is kind of a radical idea, but when you talk about the legislatures and you also talk about the judiciary in the courts, legislatures are traditionally 60 to 75 percent lawyers.
So you're kind of talking about I mean, they're, at this point, too similar.
They're not opposing bodies.
Like, they're all, at the end of the day, you know, answerable to the bar and all that stuff.
And that's perhaps a conflict of interest that's causing the legislature not to do their job.
Yeah, I think that if you had clean elections, then you'd have a better mix of candidates.
People ask me all the time if I want to run.
And I don't think...
I don't know that I do. I don't really like...
People that aspire to become politicians.
I'm not saying that people shouldn't run for office.
I'm saying if your goal from a young age is to climb the ladder from a state representative to a U.S. senator, I don't think that's good.
I think that people that aspire to political power naturally are prone to become corrupt.
I think that people like Donald Trump, who sat around for 69 years and built a business empire and then saw their country go into hell, that stand up to run, I think that's a much better thing.
And so why don't I want to run?
Well, number one, I think my mission and my ability to narrate the election solution is probably more important than me holding a seat somewhere where I would immediately be relegated to the back bench of some crazy committee.
And then more importantly, I don't want to go run I think the extra emphasis on beating people that badly is designed to make people not want to run.
because the Republican primary voters have figured this stuff out.
And most Republicans are anti-Rhino.
And you saw people like Eric Cantor getting beat by no names like Dave Brad.
And all of a sudden now that doesn't happen.
It's eighty five to fifteen beatings in favor of the establishment.
You know, they're cheating in primaries, which is why.
Yeah. Which is why red states won't investigate the fraud of the 2020 election, because I think they would uncover that.
Hey, Rhinos have actually been snatching their primaries in safe Republican districts to make sure that they win a cakewalk in the general election.
So I think that if you had good elections and politics wasn't so filthy, Politics is such a filthy thing that normal people don't want to get involved in it and subject their family to hit pieces.
Or if you've ever screwed up and have any dirt in your life, that's all going to come out.
They're going to drag you out and make your family a mockery.
I think that if politics had a lot of the money influence out in cleaner elections, you'd have people that own businesses running against these attorneys.
There are good attorneys, like look at Tom Renz, great guy.
Look at Joey, you know, but I think that it's a byproduct of the filth that politics is that you don't have more people to compete with attorneys for political office.
Yeah, you know, talking about political office, so 2020, let's specifically focus on Nevada now since we talked about Arizona quite a bit.
2020, the GOP was yelling and screaming election fraud, pamphlets going out describing the amount of, you know, votes that were stolen in a variety of categories.
In fact, I got a printout of that and we do a show called the America Happens documentary series, which is also on our platform AmericaHappens.com.
And in that, we went through these voter rolls, found all these shady locations.
I mean, definitely the GOP was on to something because you have people voting from Alzheimer's facilities in mass, you have certain hotels, recurring apartments, storage units, commercial locations, all which is unlawful for you to vote from.
But nonetheless, 90 something thousand votes were counted, right?
So that was 2020. I get involved in GOP. That's a big thing that's being discussed.
And then 2022 comes along, and I'm actually running as a candidate now.
I ran for Assembly District 13.
And, you know, at the price of, not to sound like a sore loser, but a lot of the candidates that were on fire ended up losing in the primary, and they lost by amounts that just didn't make sense.
So what do you think would happen there in the 2022 primary?
2022 Nevada primary.
Well, I've cracked a lot of those numbers with Robert Beatles and company about Joey Gilbert's campaign specifically.
And they absolutely have a way.
So Robert will tell you that Washoe County in particular appears to have the menu, which is the voter registration rolls that you can see online.
How many voters are here?
How many registered Republicans?
How many registered Democrats? And then they appear to have another one that is internal.
From what I'm told about Robert.
Now, depending on one of the issues, the biggest issue we have with elections is transparency.
We don't really aim for that when we're trying to voice the solutions for elections, because we come off...
I don't think we do, but to the people that want to defend the system of elections, they say that we're sore losers and we can't accept our out-of-touch candidates losing.
Well, if we just had transparency, we could show that the elections are fraudulent, and at minimum, we'd be able to confirm or deny the result of the election.
They will not afford that to us because they are defrauding the elections.
So you want to prove to me that there are no issues with machines?
Well, then let's crack open the entire infrastructure.
Ballot marking devices, scanners, tabulators, especially the electronic, poll books.
So something is happening with the voter registry and then the electronics that govern the election that in real time are able to see votes coming in, especially on election day, and save and acclimate the desired result in.
That appears to be the case in Nevada, where we don't have the transparency to determine what actual results should be.
Clark and Washoe counties accounting for seven-eighths of the vote in the state.
It's very essential that we have clarity there.
And it's not just the governor's race.
There's a number of candidates in Nevada that I thought would do a lot better.
Down in Clark County, I thought Carolina Serrano was going to easily take that nomination for the House seat.
I think she got like 16%.
And her numbers had her doing way better than that, too.
So I don't want to run out and cry foul about every race we don't have much info on, but we do not have the transparency required to trust the system of elections.
And in a state like Nevada, in 2020 at least, I'm not sure about 2022, but in 2020 they mailed a mail-in ballot to every registration on the roll, whether you ask for it or not.
And why I say registration instead of people is No.
Wow.
Wow. Wow.
It's insane. These numbers are just, you know, again, Nevada is a great example.
It's just enough to make sure you have enough to steal an election.
It's always that number in terms of the ratio between population size and these shifty ballots.
You don't need a lot of votes in Nevada.
Nevada 2020, I think, was 33,000 votes between Biden and Trump.
And Trump's numbers in Nevada are enormous.
Absolutely blow away any previous Republican growth in the state.
And by the way, Nevada has had a Republican presidential trend since Obama's victory in 2008.
So Obama trended the state hard to the left, and then it started trending back to the right in 2012.
The margin was cut like in half.
And then you have Trump coming within three points.
In 2016, and then you have this explosion in Republican votes for Trump, and also a massive shift of Latino votes to Trump in Nevada, which, who votes Democrat in Nevada?
Well, you have the unions in Clark and Washoe.
You have actually a more conservative black vote in Nevada than in almost any state.
And then you have the shift of the Latino working class heavily to Trump and it's clear based on the rural counties and also in the conservative parts of Washoe and Clark that Trump got the standard white conservative vote, whether that's far right wing or just suburban moderates.
He got them all. So who voted for Biden?
If all of Trump's base is voting for him and then more Democrats than last time vote for Trump, there's not enough white liberals from the Bay Area in Washoe County to have given Biden that sort of a performance.
So it's basically corruption on both.
Trump's margin in Nevada was probably nine points or more.
Yeah, it's like this corruption.
So you're saying within the GOP there's corruption because they want to, you know, reveal the fact that they're basically leaning primaries to rhinos.
And then there's definitely the Democrats doing shady things.
So it's kind of like corruption on all ends at this point.
I'm trying to find the silver lining here.
And I think maybe one of them is that Adam Laxalt may finally be retiring from perpetually running for office.
And everybody wanted him to win.
Everybody's supporting him. And he comes up on social media a few days after the election and says, well, guess what?
If we can only keep Catherine Cortez Masto from winning...
ballots we're gonna win and she wants 61 and a half so and then and then what he does is he comes out and and he gives a quasi defense of his campaign it says well we have to change all the laws here well he's technically correct on that but way too many Republican candidates come out and concede their elections when they ought to be fighting for some degree of sanity here this is what happened is all the Republicans are winning their races and they're winning
them solidly Jim Marchant is also winning his race solidly and I think he was third in line between Lombardo Laxalt and then it was Marchant well Marchant didn't concede his race and rightfully so We talked about this in Florida in December.
But Laxalt was happy to come out and concede the race and offer congratulations.
So they counted all the votes.
And then they said, we're going to count mail-in votes in drop boxes.
You cannot see this happening.
You have to trust that they are pulling mail out of, pulling ballots out of drop boxes.
And those ballots belong to real human beings who We can make a system of elections where I can go into a cracker barrel and confirm that these 50 people voted and they're eligible to vote.
Yeah, I mean, there's no way.
I just refuse to believe that Laxalt was the best candidate, firstly.
And I actually believe that sometimes the weaker candidate is pushed because, you know, if it was somebody else, let's, you know, Joey Gilbert put up a fight.
He was very vocal that he doesn't believe the results and he thinks that things aren't happening transparently and therefore should be called into question.
But there's not many that'll do that, and I think purposely sometimes these weaker individuals are inserted, which is pretty much what you're saying.
A hundred percent. As long as you can keep populist Republicans at bay, you can keep the grift of the establishment Republicans going, kind of like the current GOP chairwoman being re-elected.
Exactly, exactly.
Seth, is there anything that we didn't talk about that you want to mention?
We need everybody to be involved in fixing elections in whatever county they're in.
So I've got an initiative going right now called Four for the Core.
And those are the four pillars of election integrity, the ten true points that I believe can be acted upon at the county level.
Whether successfully or not, we can get the information we need and gather the disposition of these counties.
um based on you know what what feedback comes back so four core f-o-u-r-c-o-r-e at proton.me that so anybody can sign up for whatever county they're at you can get the instructions there and also at our website fourforthecore.com we have all the documents on there that you need to understand phase one of the project which is gathering the information that way we can figure out what counties are Predisposed to potentially make an effort to clean voter rolls or get away from machines because
in some parts of the country, typically not competitive political landscapes, they are pushing to get away from machines and return to paper ballots.
So we have to have people on board with this.
It is a winning argument, I will tell you that.
Everywhere I go, you've got it misspelled on the banner on there.
It's 4, F-O-U-R. F-O-U-R, no!
Tell Travis I'm going to whip his ass next time I see him.
That Travis. Anyway, we need people involved.
This is a winning fight because the numbers are absolutely in our favor.
Everywhere I go, if this conversation comes up, very rarely is there any kickback.
But we have to be armed with information and able to...
We're able to state our points clearly and have a goal.
And it's a long fight. It's only been a little over two years since the 2020 election went down.
And this is something where people are impatient about it, and I understand the urgency.
But there's been decades of letting things go and, oh yeah, this law is that.
Oregon put Motor Voter in four years ago, but their mail-in ballot system goes back to the 20th century.
And that's the stuff that we need to fix.
You've got somebody pretty persistent in the comments here.
So people need to go online and remove their voter registration when they move.
So if you move, maybe even within the state, at least change your registrations.
It's critical that people remove their registrations, and if somebody in your family dies, follow up with the registrar voters to make sure that person's removed from the rolls.
Now, that's just some basic housekeeping.
But the heavy lifting has got to be done, and it's got to be exposed.
And thank God we have people like Terry Lake, Mark Fincham, Abe Homiday in Arizona, Jim Marchant in Nevada that are willing to fight this monster.
Because if we don't have control of the elections, we have zero political power as a people and we are effectively serfs.
Yep, exactly.
One last question.
Is there a grand jury approach to the legal process to all of this?
I'm not sure. Grand jury.
That's, I mean, just something that I've heard because grand jury is something that I think through petitions you can basically summon and then you literally have no kind of or much less influence if somebody's trying to be corrupt in the judiciary because they have to accept it.
We're going to have to get some state legislatures that are willing to deal with corrupt judiciary.
And that's a hard thing to do because in places like Arizona, there's a one-seat Republican House majority.
So that gives them enough—I don't know if it's a one.
It's a very narrow majority.
And that gives them enough plausible deniability to say, well, we've got so-and-so over there.
Dave's a rhino. He's not going to vote with us, so we won't even bring it up.
That also happened in Arizona in 2021 where it was a very narrow Republican majority in their house.
So a lot of bills were never even brought up under the guise of, well, Boyer won't vote for it.
Okay. Cool, cool.
Seth, this was awesome. Thank you so much for coming on Blood Money.
We really appreciate your time.
I mean, this information is so valuable.
Thank you. Well, I appreciate it, Vim.
Thanks for having me on. And to the audience, I appreciate you guys listening in and hope you guys get plugged in.
Awesome. And then I just want to give a shout out to Aisha and Andrea for helping us produce this episode.
Of course, Travis E. Barb, the man behind the scenes helping us produce every episode of Blood Money out here.
Also wanted to mention, you know, Seth had mentioned some of the drama in the Freedom community.
Unfortunately, got sucked into something like that.
I was actually on the Jeff Dornick show.
Talking about it, if you guys want to check that out, I was in the latest Jeff Dornick podcast.
And also definitely check out our episode 29 of Blood Money, which ties in with that particular podcast.
Thank you very much for showing up and check out our latest episodes on www.americahappens.com.
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