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Blood Money Episode 31 w/ Treniss Evans "Fighting tooth and nail for my constitutional rights"

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	So,
	Blood Money Episode 31 with Trennis Evans Fighting tooth and nail for my constitutional rights.
	Alright, we're on the next episode of Blood Money.
	Blood Money Episode 31 with Trennis Evans.
	How are you doing, Trennis? Oh, man, I'm doing great, guys.
	How's it been? It's been good.
	It's been good. So the title of this episode is Fighting Tooth and Nail for My Constitutional Rights.
	I'm just going to do a quick little preface here.
	Trennis is the kind of guy that the globalists hate.
	I'm sure Gerald Soros hates your guts there, man, because you're the kind of man that they want to do away with so they could have tyranny take over.
	Another quick little preface.
	We have in our country what's law versus legal, right?
	Law is our human rights, what should be given to every man and woman.
	And then you have the legal society's creation, which is the legal world.
	And I know, Trenus, that when you went to January 6th in Washington, D.C., There was some legal troubles that came along and you made some serious decisions.
	You want to tell us a little bit about your backstory on how you got here?
	I like that. A couple of decisions, a little legal troubles.
	Yeah, that's good. That's good. I like it.
	All right. Well, so, you know, it's kind of like saying Charles Manson kind of upsets and hurts some people's feelings, right?
	So, yeah. I mean, yeah.
	So, all right, here you go.
	Now, I tell you, January 6th, you know, the day of is in the back, you know, kind of really in the rearview mirror for me.
	It's really more where we are right now with what we're doing now.
	But, yeah, it's all born of that.
	I think a good statement is that kind of everything that's happening now is born of the fire and risen of the ashes of what happened on January 6th.
	Not just to me, but I think when I watched it happen to so many American people, I went home.
	From January 6th and started watching what was happening on TV, you know, the raids going around the country, what was happening to different people in their homes, how they were being arrested, the SWAT teams, you know, literally the persecution, the attack and all of us being labeled as insurrectionists, seditionists. Man, that was scary.
	And then January 17th, the FBI shows up at my house in plain clothes.
	I thought they were the Jehovah's Witness.
	I'm like, hey, no, look, guys, I appreciate it.
	I see you, but whatever it is, thanks.
	I'm not interested. As they're coming down my front walkway, I just happened to be outside.
	And needless to say, these fine folks come, you know, flaps their bag, and, you know, Agent Garmin, FBI, and I'm like, man, I really don't want to cancel my subscription.
	I'm good, right? Next thing I know, the...
	We had a conversation.
	They left. They said, you know, hey, look, I told them there.
	I said, I didn't steal anything.
	I didn't damage anything.
	I, you know, certainly didn't, you know, violate anything.
	You know, this is the way it is.
	And then I have video of the whole thing.
	So I said, okay, great.
	And they said, what are your plans for the inauguration or whatever?
	And I said, I'll be here at home.
	I don't think anyone's going anywhere now after what you guys are doing.
	So they definitely got the point across, I think, for a lot of people.
	But they came back to that SWAT team on March 4th and everything changed there.
	You know, I guess they could have come back with their SWAT team, played their shock and on, show us how cool and big, bad and ugly they were or whatever.
	But when they put my wife and kids at gunpoint on the front porch, that wasn't necessary.
	I mean, you got a 13-year-old boy in basketball shorts and a t-shirt.
	Pretty sure that he's not a threat to you and you don't need to hold him at gunpoint with automatic weapons.
	Red dots on him.
	That's a problem. And that's the kind of government that I'll never get along with again and we're never going to be friends with.
	Yeah, yeah.
	This FBI raid video you had sent us, this was from the March 4th incident?
	Yeah. Do you mind if we play that real quick?
	Yeah, go for it. Travis, you could roll that clip.
	Doors open. Green camera?
	Yeah. John, we're on the back corner.
	Check. Yes.
	FBI. All right so all you did is basically you showed up to dc you didn't do anything violent and there you have the fbi a couple of months later knocking on your door yeah uh they well you know that's the first piece out there and then It's crazy.
	I'm like, what are you doing sending a SWAT team like this for someone that you came to talk to?
	I'm so dangerous. Two people could come talk to me on Sunday afternoon, casually, and you come back again on a Thursday and you've got to have a SWAT team for me?
	I mean, we had a conversation.
	You took my phone. I gave you my number.
	You took my attorney's phone number.
	I said I'd come in. No problem.
	Just call me whatever it is you need.
	We don't have a problem.
	I told them that, you know, under normal circumstances, I'd invite them in, make a cup of coffee, or, you know, a pot of coffee, and we'd talk about it.
	But not after what I saw of the weaponized Biden administration and how they were treating people and the absolute lunacy that was going on in our country at that time.
	Wow, wow. So in January 6th, your experiences were a little different.
	I mean, you didn't see an insurrection, correct?
	An insurrection. Look, whether anyone saw it or not, okay, look, there's some people fought with the police.
	Some of these things happened. Some things went on there that are, okay, I get it.
	I'm grasping these concepts.
	I'm not whitewashing them. But you mean to tell me the most armed populace on the face of the planet Came to an insurrection without firearms.
	Exactly, yeah. Isn't the definition of insurrection include firearms?
	It's a violent overthrow?
	Yeah. Violent, yeah.
	Alright, so we have some tape here from January 6th, particularly some kind of like, before we play it, is it like grenades going off or something or smoke bombs or something?
	I don't know which footage you're referring to.
	There's a hell of a lot of footage there, my friend.
	The police using grenades on protesters.
	Yeah, so the unlawful and incorrect misuse of munitions that were thrown haphazardly mid-crowd into that group, that's not the correct usage.
	I mean, as you can imagine. So think about this.
	You've got people literally, as I said, facing off with police.
	You have a line of police, a line of protesters.
	They're back and forth. This is very common in D.C. for those of you that haven't been there.
	I mean, I was shocked the first time.
	I know this sounds odd, but, you know, protesters right there, police right there.
	There's usually some words going on back and forth.
	In this case, there were prayers going on back and forth until they started launching pepper balls, rubber bullets, and flashbang grenades into the crowd.
	Yeah, but go ahead.
	Travis, do you mind playing that clip?
	That hurt.
	You're on the wrong side of history.
	I'm not going to let you go.
	I was wrong I thought that guy was causing problems but he's not I think that man probably died.
	I hope they saved his life. Wow, very powerful. So they're tossing those like smoke grenades at you guys.
	Yeah, those aren't just smoke grenades.
	Those are concussion grenades that are going off there.
	Those are flashbang grenades as well.
	I mean, you have different munitions being used.
	A number of different munitions were used in that event.
	And I think the most interesting part is think about this.
	The ACLU has sued and won millions of dollars for the misuse of those munitions in DC. And under similar circumstances, and that's the most egregious misuse of them that I've ever seen.
	Yeah. That dude that was all bleeding, he was hit with one of those things?
	Yeah, he took actually a rubber bullet through the face, I believe.
	I can't say that for certain.
	So rubber bullets aren't to be fired from a height down into a crowd, because obviously the idea that we strike someone in the head.
	They're designed to be fired from a similar height, so you fire it below head level, so that Creates pain, right?
	I mean, that's the idea. It's supposed to hit clothing or something.
	But when you have it like that and you fire from above, you know, you shoot these things.
	So I don't know if that's a cap from part of the munitions that were misused or if it's a rubber bullet that's misused.
	Either way, the munitions, according to the police guidelines, are being misused.
	And in addition, those same munitions that are being misused, it's in illegal use and they've lost millions of dollars for it.
	Wow, wow. So, okay, you don't have a background in law, right?
	No, I've got a great study and research.
	Awesome, awesome. So take us through that journey.
	So March 4th, they come arrest you and then take us down that pathway.
	What happened next? Oh, man.
	So, you go to the Federal Detention Center.
	You're literally sitting in this Federal Detention Center with people that are like 300 counts of drug running, you know, 92 kilos of this.
	All these people, and they're looking over at you like, Mr.
	Evans, you know, you get down the line, all the jailhouse lawyers coming back from seeing the judge, and it's like, yeah, what are you in for?
	I'm not sure. Well, needless to say, in that environment, it was tough.
	I was like, what am I here? What the hell am I going to say?
	And finally, when they got to me, I said, well, I'm trying to overthrow the government.
	Well, because that's what they said I was, an insurrectionist on the label.
	And you get some instant street cred as being someone that was trying to overthrow the government.
	That's awesome. I mean, I'll tell you what, you know, in a land of a lineman, one-eyed man to be named King, and in that environment, whatever it is to, you know, Enrique Tarrio was telling me not too long ago that, you know, whatever it is you got to do to protect your starfish.
	Yeah, yeah. So you have at this point, I'm sure you find a lawyer to help you get out of jail and take you down this road?
	Yeah, I actually argued my own case.
	My attorney didn't make it in until the very end, and I had already preserved my firearms, convinced the Judge Bond, and she got there at the tail end of it, and I think I had pretty much made my argument.
	I had pages written out on the back of my court documents And I had already made my own arguments, and I think I was on my way to going home already.
	But thankfully, she did get there at the end and kind of wrap things up or maybe tie together my argument, and it was good stuff.
	So I got to go home, and I recognized what was happening to so many other people, and I realized, my God, I almost got stuck in this place.
	Yeah. Sorry to interrupt you so when you say like you're saying like you're arrested you're taken in for a period of time like a short period of time or I was only there.
	I got out the same day, man.
	Oh, wow. Most people didn't get anywhere near that kind of consideration.
	You know, back then, March 4th, we were still extraditing people to D.C. and filling up that gulag.
	You know, you still had 100-plus people coming in.
	And just about two weeks before I was seeing on TV that people started to argue, like, wait a minute, if we're in the middle of this pandemic and it's so bad that we have this to worry about, why are we hauling prisoners across the country and we can hold them in detention facilities right where they are being arrested?
	You know, within their state. Is there any reason for this?
	So that's kind of what happened in that scenario.
	It actually worked out really well that I was just a couple weeks later because my indictment was completed back in February.
	I was actually the 225th case that they had made and arrested.
	I don't know what it was in the time.
	I think in the first hundred people.
	Wow. So how come your lawyer didn't do the whole argument?
	Was there a reason why you prepared most of your argument?
	She wasn't there. I mean, nobody knows, right?
	You go in. I don't think that anyone realized I was going to get to go to the bond hearing that same day.
	They didn't think I was likely to make it.
	You know, she was trying to race down there.
	You know, typically the way this works with nonviolent criminals is, you know, the FBI calls your attorney and says, hey, we're going to need to get your guy and you can turn yourself in on this day and such and such.
	Here you go in, you go see the magistrate, make the bond determination.
	And that's how this works. In this situation, remember when they were all excited about using this shock and awe campaign?
	And that's what we saw.
	The American people witnessed this shock and awe campaign happened to, oh, now it's been a thousand people.
	You know, it's always SWAT teams.
	It's always this rough them up kind of scenario.
	And I say, like I said, I'm thankful the two arresting agents that I had, they didn't want to be doing what they were doing.
	There's a lot of agents out there that I've heard this from a lot of defendants.
	They are not happy about what they're doing.
	They're like, look, I mean, you hear this all the time.
	We have MS-13 to deal with.
	We have people that are trafficking children.
	We have people that are, you know, raping children.
	We have sex crime rings.
	There's so much.
	Child pornography that they know that, like, okay, somebody that went inside protesting that's similar to Wisconsin 2011 or any of these other events has been Politicized to such a way to make it out that it's the worst thing in the world because it's an attack on the conservative base and Donald Trump.
	When the left went in in Wisconsin in 2011, we didn't see this scenario.
	This is not what they did. This isn't how things went.
	This is totally not representative of that same situation.
	When you say preserve firearms in front of that judge, you mean that she was going to try to take your or he was going to try to take your Second Amendment rights away?
	Yeah, they've taken almost everybody.
	Very few people, I think.
	I've only talked to one or two other people that have actually been able to preserve those from the beginning.
	How'd you do that? The reason that I was able to preserve them is because I was explaining to the judge, we have active death threats coming into my home.
	Yeah, call, messages, kind of WhatsApp kind of stuff where it's disappearing things.
	And then we had a number of those disappearing messages.
	We had a number of phone calls.
	We had letters. Pictures were taken inside my backyard.
	Wow. And they posted pictures of my child, his school location, and the bus route between my home and there and where his bus stop was.
	And this is all after January 6th?
	Like, you started being targeted?
	Yeah, so this started just after January 6th.
	I mean, it was like... Maybe 9th or 10th I started getting this.
	There's a brand new defendant named Isaac.
	He's in Michigan. I've been talking to him for months.
	The FBI came to his house a long time ago.
	He called me while I was in South Dakota working with the South Dakota State Legislature.
	On what this problem is.
	And there's some people up there that are very awake and involved that want to be involved in this.
	And he calls me one day and I stepped out because it was him.
	And he said, oh my gosh, they're calling me.
	I've got to turn myself in tomorrow at the FBI office or they're going to come raid my house.
	And I was like, well, I think you better go turn yourself in.
	And he calls me shortly after.
	This guy's had an incredibly tough life.
	He's had a terrible childhood.
	His juvenile record has just been awful.
	What happened to him in these foster care facilities and broke his arm, etc.
	And this poor kid is, you know, he's 20 years old now.
	And he had to go turn himself in.
	They told him they were going to come after him for a misdemeanor.
	And now they're coming after him in a scenario where they, I think they hit him yesterday with five felonies and five misdemeanors.
	They don't care if it's accurate.
	They've never cared if the charges are realistic.
	If they just can somehow assume that there's something to this, they come with it and they just slap it on there so that later they can go, okay, we'll drop this, drop that, drop this, drop that.
	Make you do a plea deal, basically, right?
	Yeah, they're priming the pump for the plea deal.
	That's all it is. I mean, anything that they can dream of that you might have gotten close to.
	My original indictment said destruction of property.
	I've always asked, like, I want to know what you told a grand jury to get them to indict me on destruction of property.
	When the video evidence of me shows me walking around saying, don't damage anything.
	We're not BLM. We're not Antifa.
	We destroy our buildings.
	We don't burn our cities. Don't do any of those things.
	I'm helping the police. The police are coming to me inside the building multiple times over thanking me, shaking my hand, patting me on the back, giving me thumbs up.
	I mean, literally taking selfies with me, shaking hands.
	That was all fine. That was the police's interpretation of what I was doing.
	The police are typically the first line, right?
	I mean, that's what happens. The police usually investigate their stuff, and if the FBI is going to be involved, then they get to investigate afterward.
	That's not what happened here.
	And people say, well, it's federal. The Capitol Police operate federal.
	They are opening Capitol Police offices around the country, precincts, whatever you want to call.
	Yeah. That's already a federal office, all right?
	So the FBI doesn't step in and take over based on what?
	They're based on because they wanted to control the narrative for the DOJ and the Capitol Police weren't going to go along with that.
	They don't have experience of playing this game and making stuff up and manipulating things and lying to the people and lying to federal judges to get what they want on the situation, to politicize the matter.
	That's not the role of the Capitol Police.
	So it's not the Capitol Police problem there that day.
	It's often misunderstood. We talked about those misuse of munitions.
	That's the Metropolitan Police Department that when they took over, these things happened.
	We were all wrong about that in the beginning.
	But, you know, the Capitol Police were really kind of just patsies in this.
	It's the Metropolitan Police Department, so that's the big problem.
	And the Metropolitan Police Department is controlled by the federal government?
	No. Well, I mean, yes.
	Okay, well, Mayor Bowser is queen of, you know, mayor of D.C. or the district, right?
	Which is essentially the same theory as governor because there's no one above her but the federal, right?
	So that district is controlled.
	But yeah, so what you have there in that situation, and Sean Witzman writes for us for Condemned USA, and he's going to be releasing an article.
	I got it started and I just couldn't get through it.
	I got too many things to do.
	You're going to see an article released here really soon.
	Probably early next week.
	Excuse me. It's going to lay out all this.
	It's going to show you how the MPD just got $300,000 worth of new munitions in December.
	And like a child, they were all too giddy to be able to go out and play with their new toys in January 6th, right?
	Not only that, but the MPD literally sends their police training forces to go train with Israeli police, which is one of the most militant police forces on the face of the planet.
	The reason they do this, oh, the city councilmen there in D.C. have been whining about this and throwing a fit about it for a year or decade, you know, that this has been going on.
	But this has been adopted.
	It's been going on about a decade.
	They've been over there and training with them, calling them gangs.
	I mean, they've got all these different things.
	So this article will be really impacting.
	People are going to learn a lot about the Metropolitan Police Department.
	I believe they're the ninth most violent police department in the entire country.
	Wow. Wow. Okay.
	So now you start going through the legal process.
	You managed to get yourself, you know, your firearms are preserved.
	You don't go to jail.
	You don't go to the gulags like a lot of other people.
	What happens next? I was scared, man.
	I mean, I was facing 23 years in prison.
	Wow. Wow. 23 years.
	Yeah. 23 years in prison is what I was facing.
	And then I came home and I mean, Like anyone.
	I mean, I'm not a criminal.
	I've never even been to prison.
	I've never been to jail.
	I was like, you've got to be kidding me.
	This is insane. I walked around in a building.
	The police were shaking my hand.
	And then I'm watching what's happening.
	And then they're telling me, well, they're going to hold these trials in D.C. and these people hate you anyway, right?
	Yeah. So I was like, this is insane.
	What are we going to do here? And, you know, I was scared.
	And I started off scared.
	And I just sat in my house. I was quiet.
	Didn't say anything. Kept my mouth shut.
	Like the attorney said.
	Man, I'll tell you what. It didn't last very long.
	A couple weeks later, I was, like, really frustrated.
	It's kind of like stages of grief or something.
	By the time I got to...
	I went, you know, kind of was like that fear became frustration.
	Frustration became anger.
	Anger became rage. And rage gave me a chance of how to control...
	The output of that.
	Where was all that energy going to go?
	And what was it going to go into?
	And what kind of action was a man going to take?
	And you can either lose your shit, I guess, and do it one way or another.
	But I chose to get involved in this fight and the legal fight.
	And I was frustrated, not so much with the current attorney, but what these attorneys were saying and what I was seeing happen to person after person and the charges and where this was headed.
	And I kept talking to these lawyers, and the more lawyers I kept talking to, the more disappointing it was.
	I was like, this is not a legal defense.
	You don't want to go in there and fight for me.
	You want to go in there and hold my hand while they bend me over the desk and tell me to take some deep breaths.
	That's not going to work. You take some deep breaths.
	By the way, federal government, take some deep breaths because now there's a whole bunch of us activated and we're coming.
	Yeah, by the way, remember in the beginning I mentioned that thing law versus legal.
	This is actually what I was trying to get at because a lot of these like bar attorneys are really serving the legal societies.
	They don't want to piss off the judge.
	They're not arguing on a law basis.
	They're really more like, hey, client, You know, take a couple of, you know, yeah, take one for me and I'll minimize the pain, not I'm going to actually restore your rights.
	I'm going to fight for what your rights are, you know, and I've heard the story over and over again.
	It's really frustrating. It's basically this is all the corruption of the legal societies that that's brought us to this.
	Oh, 100%. So that's where we formed a legal advocacy.
	I'm going to tell you this. Most of you people, if you're watching this near January 6th defendant, ask for your attorney's record.
	Ask for his log, his or her log on your discovery on evidence.com.
	I want to see how many hours.
	Ask them to show you how many hours they've spent reviewing the evidence and the footage regarding you than the relativity.
	Or if they haven't, then ask who has.
	I tell them you want to see. How many hours they've spent on your case in the evidence?
	Did they actually redo the evidence?
	Because I hear people all the time saying, but I was shaking hands when I was doing this.
	They have no idea. The government sends them what they want to say.
	They look at that and then go, oh, well, this is what's going to happen to you.
	I have scenarios and ways to solve this for you.
	We figured out how to reverse engineer this and go back through the crowd and pull the cell phones and then we get that information.
	We can help you.
	Listen, it's sad.
	I don't believe that I'm smarter than all those attorneys.
	I don't think that's the case. I think I actually just gave a damn and what's happened is they know this stuff.
	They know how to do this most likely because if not, then that means I'm smarter than all the attorneys that weren't doing this for like, I don't know, 800 people.
	The reality is this.
	If you need footage, you need evidence of you and what have you, we know where to get it.
	We have the 14,000 hours.
	We go through that regularly. That's because we represent a whole lot of people.
	So as their advocate, we're able to go through that footage and look at it for them under licensing for their attorneys.
	This is at condemnedusa.org, right?
	That's correct. CondemnedUSA.org.
	Okay, so I know this is a thick question and I want to get back to your timeline in a sec, but bullet point wise, what could you tell us just, you know, briefly of how you guys do things differently that allows you to save some of these individuals from going into the gulags and all this authoritarian nonsense?
	Yeah, so first of all, we know the information better than the attorneys that you're finding, typically.
	And even the ones that know the information, we've investigated it more.
	I, or the video investigators that work with us, have seen more footage than you could ever imagine.
	I mean, we've seen thousands upon thousands of hours of footage.
	We have, I think, collectively housed around 58,000 hours of video footage of January 6th.
	Mostly catalog put together and we know.
	So if you tell me I was standing here at this time, like we know what was happening there at that time.
	We know this timeline all over the grounds.
	So let's say somebody's accused of like you did something violent in this corner.
	You guys are like, no, no, no.
	We have the footage. Nothing went on over there.
	Here it is. Yeah, well, not only do we have it, but the FBI will show it to you from the angle they want to show it to you.
	Well, we can't really see what you did behind here, but it looks like you were probably doing X, Y, and Z. So what we do is we go back and we pull like 10 different angles of that.
	I mean, there's so much cell phone footage and we have a catalog.
	We know what we're doing. Some of it and some of it, you know, most of it, the most impactful places.
	If you're in a benign area and it may be a little bit different, but we can't find it.
	We know how. We've been doing this a long time and I think we're actually getting better at it than they are.
	Wow, wow, wow. I hope the viewer realizes, man, they're looking at it here or here.
	This is so amazing. They've actually gone through all these steps to help the public.
	Now, getting back to the timeline.
	So obviously, all this experience that you have right now with Condemned USA came at a deep cost for yourself.
	Tell us, you know, now you're going, you're realizing that all these lawyers don't know what the hell they're doing.
	You start firing lawyers.
	Take us through that journey. Yeah.
	Listen, The problem with this is they're going to just urge you to take a plea deal.
	What they're going to do is they're going to get you $25,000, $30,000, $40,000, $50,000, whatever it is.
	They're going to go, we're going to fight like hell.
	We've got you. We've got your back, buddy.
	I want this. Yeah, we got them.
	We're going to get in there. It's a sales job.
	I've heard it over and over. And if you're not hearing something like that, don't worry.
	You know, hey, this is serious.
	We got to get in there. We're going to require a fight.
	We're going to do something.
	It's going to be amazing. And they tell you about how they fight.
	They tell you all their experience in the legal realm of fighting.
	They tell you about all these trials they've won and these cases.
	And you're like, wow, okay, this is the one.
	You're like the fighter.
	We got to have you. You're the one, right?
	You're going to get me just a fair deal.
	And then they come back to you after they have that money and go, well, look, hey, here's the sorry, here's the sad part.
	You got all this evidence against you.
	We don't really have anything, you know, corroborating what you're saying.
	You're in a bad spot.
	This is a bad way. You know, you're facing a lot of time.
	Well, if we just do this, You're going to go the easy route, and we're just going to be there a year or two, or you're just going to get six months, or you're just likely to get two or three years.
	Just sign here, and we're done.
	And guess what? You're consenting.
	All this money that you thought was going to go into this, that you're thinking that all this hard work, they didn't do shit.
	They didn't go through your information.
	They did not go through your discovery.
	They did not. So when they come back to you with these plea deals, the first question out of your mouth ought to be, I want to see how many hours you spent reviewing the evidence on my case.
	It's not the evidence the FBI provided you.
	Not the DOJ's provided information.
	Show me right now.
	Show me where in my log.
	You have a log there. They have to log these in and it gives them a timer.
	It counts their hours there and your specific evidence.
	Tell them to show it to you.
	And I'm telling you right now, what they're going to be able to show you is empty pockets and, you know, it's for you and a whole bunch of no work for them.
	And then you're going to sign this deal and go on.
	I'm not saying that you just shouldn't take the plea.
	I'm not saying that in your case, it might not be good.
	Individually, I don't know. But what I do know is come back and call us.
	I'll tell you what's up.
	I'll show you. I mean, I know how to do it.
	And we'll take a look. I've got calls from people all the time.
	We've helped over 400 January 6th people we've spoken to in one realm or the other, whether it just be a counseling situation, helping them understand where they are.
	I mean, you can't believe the travesties that we're hearing in these cases.
	It's got to go. I mean, this can't continue.
	The change of venue stuff's coming for them, and they know that.
	That's why they're stalling, answering our questions.
	Promotions on change of venue.
	It's the most comprehensive thing that's ever been put before the court.
	So that was interesting.
	A change of venue from D.C. out of D.C., right?
	Yes. Awesome.
	Awesome. That's I mean, this stuff's like super interesting.
	Let me ask you a question. This one.
	Have you ever thought about the idea that essentially every single person in that courtroom is a bar member?
	Yeah. And you're in DC, which is its own territory.
	Yeah. Right?
	So, yeah, when you go to the judge, you're like, hey, by the way, judge, you a bar member?
	Okay, can I see your card?
	And then you turn to the other side and you ask your own lawyer and that person's a bar member, too.
	I mean, that's a huge conflict of interest on its own.
	That's why I look at the judicial system, whether it's these courts, whether it's a family court, whether it's a criminal justice system, the whole thing's a fraud, if you ask me, I mean, based upon the conflict of interest laws.
	Well, you know, hey, we'd love to get them to see it that way, but this is, you know, the reality.
	But one of the things that exists there is that the very first rule of professional conduct for those bar members, think about that, is that they have a professional duty to uphold the constitutional rights of all persons that go through that system in their presence in the court.
	And I assure you right now that those people are violating that, but no one's going to hold them accountable.
	I mean, it's just like Charles Manson getting to run around the country and just do helter skelter all over the place.
	And everybody's like, you know, we're not really that worried about it.
	It's okay. Charlie's not that bad a guy.
	But that's how bad this is.
	It's really that bad. It's been that bad for a long time.
	It's been that bad long before January 6th.
	It's been that bad hundreds of years.
	They've really cultivated the crop here to mastermind the kind of poison fruit kind of scenario.
	It's funny you say poison fruit.
	Have you read the book Fruits from a Poisonous Tree?
	Is that what you're referring to?
	There's a Fruits from...
	We have a little pamphlet.
	Oh gosh, I'm gonna reach over and grab one.
	Hold on, I'm gonna grab this. It's off-screen.
	Hang on, you're gonna like this. Alright, alright.
	So you need to take a look at these.
	Shame I didn't have one when I saw you.
	Oh, cool. Yeah, actually, I saw you with those at the Reawakened Festival.
	Yeah. The poison pill and the gulag.
	I mean, I was just up delivering some of these to some state legislators.
	I mean, did you see these things?
	Did you actually see what's in it?
	No, I haven't looked at it.
	I haven't reviewed the whole thing. I'd love a copy.
	So what this is, remember AOC talking about re-education material?
	Do you remember that? Yeah.
	Like they wanted to do re-education camps?
	She said we should round them up, put them in boxcars, haul them off somewhere, put them in re-education camps?
	They weren't kidding. This is the jail material, what you're looking at.
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	Impeachment. Charges of inciting violence.
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	You just can't imagine what's going on here.
	They list all this stuff.
	Rape. Trump has not only been accused of sexual assault and harassment of dozens of women, but in June, the writer E. Jean Carroll is accused of raping her in the dressing room of a luxury department store.
	Yeah, you know, honestly, what this sounds like, we do a lot of pieces about the family law industry.
	And you talked about foster care, you know about what CPS does.
	It literally seems like these courts have become family law courts where, oh, somebody accused somebody of something, you have no evidence.
	Nonetheless, usually, you know, it doesn't play out well, because there is no standard of evidence.
	Well, look, There's some really helpful things here that we've done.
	There's, you know, undoubtedly you have, I mean, I know you've got a lot of viewers that watch Blood Money.
	I mean, I know you guys who have been out.
	You guys are everywhere. I mean, you're all over the country.
	You guys are boots on the ground at everything.
	It's phenomenal how you guys get around like that and get so much done.
	You know, most people sit in their home and like, okay, we'll talk about what's happening over there.
	You guys, I see you guys at stuff all the time.
	You're actually out there getting involved.
	To see it and catch these things firsthand.
	Think about this. That's where we are.
	We're not a place that says, hey, give us money so we can pay lawyers.
	No, screw that, buddy.
	I'm not giving you money to pay. I'm not collecting money to pay lawyers.
	The people give this organization money so that people don't have to waste money on lawyers because we get to work on their case and we do things for them that the lawyers just don't do.
	Fact. All right.
	Now, in this term, so one of the things we've done, if you look at our legal help guide stuff, I knew over a year ago I saw this coming and we started listing all the BLM and Antifa cases and how they were adjudicated.
	So we'd go back into the court and say, oh, no, we don't get to hold January 6 in its own account.
	Like it's the only time these laws have ever been broken.
	Parading and picketing and trespassing, knowing that you're entering and remaining in stricken building, blah, blah, blah.
	These are age-old codes of the law that have been broken over and over and over again, mainly by leftists and Democrats, but the usual outcome is like a $300 fine, and the most extreme scenario is the X. Well, they say, well, but this is a much more extreme scenario.
	You joined a violent mob.
	Really? I joined a violent mob.
	I don't think so. I think I was the antithesis of a violent mob because I was sitting there telling people not to damage, not to break, not to harm.
	So how do you label me or lump me in with people that I'm speaking out against if there were some of those people?
	And the sad reality is what the real scenario is is you had A literal, like, less than 50 out of a million people that are actually wanting to incite violence and attack the police and get involved in some kind of nature of that.
	And it was only after the police attacked them and they did this unlawfully, for the most part, outside of even a smaller group of that 50, that really were into the idea that they were going to attack the police or get into harm.
	And the rest of the people were speaking out against them and stopping them.
	I always say this. If the police lost total control and the place was total chaos and the police were just victims, they say, at the mercy of the crowd, that's what they've said over and over, then where's all the dead police?
	If that's what we're there for.
	Where's all the dead people?
	It's weird, isn't it? They say 140 officers injured on January 6th, right?
	Over 140 injuries.
	Gee, that's amazing.
	Over 60 of them are injured because somebody shot pepper spray or CS gas into the wind and it blew back on officers and they had to have their eyes flushed or they had to go get a breathing treatment.
	Because their lungs were still burning.
	And that's the injury that happened to many of these officers.
	No officer should have been injured, but no demonstrators should have been injured either in that scenario.
	There was a few people that they could have subdued.
	But think about this, America.
	You know something here.
	Imagine the Rodney King thing, the event of Rodney King, 1992.
	I was there in LA in 1992.
	And I watched what the public did.
	I watched how people came out, right?
	What they felt and the response they got from the community.
	And this was when people saw the Rodney King beating hours later on TV. People lost their shit and came out of their house and, I mean, it erupted into the LA riots there in 1992.
	Police were killed. People were killed.
	Businesses burned. I mean, this went on.
	Rioting raged on for weeks on end.
	I mean, it was a total shit show, right?
	I was there. I watched the whole thing.
	Me too, by the way. What's that?
	Me too, by the way.
	Yeah, I was literally there right in the middle of it, alright?
	I was day one.
	Like, we drove down to check it out and was like, oh shit, maybe we shouldn't be here.
	I don't think that I'm popular here for some reason.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
	So anyway, should we leave this...
	We get out of there, but think about this.
	The American people, a much larger crowd of people, witnessed in person the beating of Roseanne Boylan, the pushing over, all the things that happened.
	They saw a woman killed on their Capitol steps right in front of them.
	They saw that. They saw the flashbang grenades going off and killing people in the crowd there.
	They saw, and then the word of Ashley Babbitt being shot, and the video of that starts circulating through the crowd.
	You drove these people nuts.
	I mean, you saw a fever pitch.
	You saw what a crowd can be compelled to do.
	Not only that, but all the beatings of the little old ladies.
	I mean, people were pissed that 72% of these people that are indefinitely detained were law enforcement and veterans.
	Why so many law enforcement?
	Why so many veterans? They said, oh, well, they used their military training to overthrow the government.
	No, they didn't. Their military and law enforcement training told them that these acts that were happening, the police MPD were carrying out, were illegal.
	They knew it was illegal.
	They knew what those people were doing was wrong.
	And they stood up and said, what are you doing?
	Stop. And they tried to stop those people.
	Listen, having a badge is not a right to break the law.
	They saw people breaking the law and they tried to stop them from breaking the law.
	If you possess a badge, Right?
	In your back pocket or if you're wearing it on your chest.
	Either way, no one's supposed to be breaking the law.
	And when one badge person sees another badge person breaking the law, what happens?
	You try and tell them to stop.
	You don't allow it to happen. You don't have to have a badge in this country.
	It's called abuse of power under the color of authority.
	And that's what happened. On January 6th with those people.
	And what should have happened and what was right to have happened, what was right is when men stood up and tried to stop law enforcement officers that were acting illegally and killing American citizens at the United States Capitol on January 6th.
	And those same people are now sitting indefinitely detained like Ronald McAbee.
	The man's a freaking hero.
	He's an absolute Genius and a great man for what he did.
	He came to the rescue of police, but Judge Emmett Sullivan, that same jackass that got General Flynn, right?
	Remember that? And then got Ted Stevens from Alaska, 43 years, longest running Republican senator.
	He screwed these guys and screwed up their lives and screwed up their careers and was wrong on both counts.
	He manipulated the justice system to be able to ruin those people.
	And he's manipulating the justice system to ruin Ronald McAbee.
	And the stupid DC Court of Appeals has his back.
	That video evidence of Ronald McAbee exonerates the man.
	He should be home with a medal on his chest for what he tried to do for helping a metropolitan police officer that day.
	And it said they're trying to make it out as though he was harming him.
	He acted as a human shield for that man.
	He picked him up off the ground.
	And where's that man coming out and thinking Ronald McAbee?
	That man's a coward and that man's a traitor to the United States of America as far as I'm concerned, and should be held accountable as such.
	Don't worry, though, we're gonna have the Nuremberg 2.0.
	You think we will? I think that's going to happen.
	It won't be vigilante acts, but when they come, when we're going to be sitting there, and we're going to start talking about where the juries are, and we're going to start holding fair courts, don't worry, D.C. District 1, you jackass judges in that federal building and what you've done here, and you prosecutors, and you...
	You idiotic Department of Justice people and you FBI agents.
	This won't be the actions of a man.
	They won't be the actions of individuals, but they will be the actions of a country.
	They will be the actions coming for you.
	You have violated so many things here.
	Geneva Convention, Nuremberg Code.
	And when it's going, you're going to be held accountable.
	And when you get held accountable, don't come crying to us about this isn't fair.
	Oh no, you already showed us.
	You showed us what a fair trial is.
	You showed us what a fair jury is.
	You showed us how to conduct fair courts, and we're going to follow your freaking lead.
	I hear you, my brother.
	I'm sorry, brother. No, no, no, no.
	Walk on, man. There's a guy who's been 760 days sitting in federal prison, 760 days detained pretrial, too dangerous to get out.
	I mean, you hear these terrified mothers and wives and they've actually just become used to it now of what's happening.
	I've heard these children and the husbands and the wives and everybody, my loved one, my loved one, you got these people indefinitely detained, people going to jail, 43 months for sitting in a chair because you desecrated the temple.
	Screw your temple. It's my temple, not yours.
	It's the house of the people.
	And the idea that these people want to come along and see this kind of idiotic crap, like you sat in a chair and you got to go to 43 months while somebody firebombs a police car while they're attacking police.
	And that person gets six months probation?
	Are you six months in jail and 18 months probation?
	Are you freaking kidding me?
	And these are lawyers. This isn't some 18-year-old kid, right?
	It's clueless.
	College student, right?
	This is absurd. You sat in a chair.
	Who got hurt? Nobody. Whose property did you damage?
	No one's. What did you desecrate?
	Nothing but their stupid-ass temple.
	I think we've all had enough of their temple.
	We really have. Watching this.
	The issue I have with all this, the issue that I have is everything that you're talking about as far as abuse of power, you know, color of law, all these things, right?
	This is an issue not just with these January 6 courts.
	This is an issue with our entire judiciary because...
	And because the original idea was that the legislature was supposed to hold the judges accountable.
	But the legislature, when they're 60 to 75 percent lawyer, aka bar agent, and now they don't want to piss off the judges, there's no accountability.
	Like, these judges who violate our constitutional rights and do these silly ass decisions, whether it's in January 6th courts, whether it's in a family court, whether it's in criminal courts, Should not be on the bench.
	They're a liability. But that doesn't seem to be happening because essentially you have a monopoly that's been created.
	And by the way, what I mean by that monopoly, let's go to the head of the snake here, right?
	This is what I was trying to say with the Bar Association.
	You have no competing association.
	So you have a self-policing entity that's supposed to hold these judges accountable.
	And then you have the legislature that's supposed to hold these judges accountable.
	Forget about self-policing.
	Forget about the legislature when they're up to 75% of lawyers.
	You know, kissing ass to the judges, so you have a system that does not regulate itself.
	That's the issue. Yeah, listen, what's happening is a total shitshow.
	It always has been. And this is what's happened.
	They have cultivated a society within our society for themselves that doesn't include you.
	Your checkbook's welcome, but you're not welcome to the party, all right?
	That's the way it works. They're not interested in justice.
	They're not interested in fair.
	They're not interested in right.
	That old lady justice and the scales of justice and all means nothing to these people.
	It's about money.
	Judges own federal prisons.
	That's the way it is. I mean, this is a RICO scam.
	Seriously. That's what I'm saying.
	Judge after judge after judge after judge that owns federal prisons.
	You tell me, how do you...
	These are privatized institutions, people.
	And they have contracts with the federal government to take on the prisoners that are monitored by the marshals.
	And that's how they get away with it.
	They privatized the prisons.
	It's just another freaking RICO violation, all right?
	And that's all it's ever been.
	But they won't tie it to it. You know, Sheila Holmes is great.
	She's actually sent some of these judges to prison.
	Of course, that was like in 1990 or something.
	I mean, I was still in high school, you know.
	Sad. But these things don't happen anymore.
	You don't get impeachments on judges, especially not federal judges.
	They are immune. They walk the earth.
	I mean, they can walk on water or do whatever they want.
	The law says they're not immune, though.
	The only reason that they are immune is because they're not being held to counter.
	They're immune as long as they don't do things that are repugnant to the laws.
	That's the part that they forget.
	Their immunity should disappear.
	But they do these things and no one's done anything about it for a long time.
	Like you said, the legislators don't do this.
	And I'm telling you, this should be one of the greatest pieces of accountability that we hold this new 118th Congress to.
	That should be one of the greatest pieces of accountability holding them to.
	Judicial reviews for those federal judges that have done this right now.
	Look, I'm not saying that, okay, you want to find people guilty of some of these crimes?
	I mean, it's no question. Okay, you swatted a cop with a plastic flagpole and you hit him, you know, eight times, you assaulted a police officer.
	Fine. Fine.
	Okay. All right.
	An unprovoked attack like that or something.
	But now, by the same token, You're trying to stop a police officer from killing a woman on the Capitol steps, right?
	A non-violent person that's not taking part in any violence.
	You're trying to stop that action.
	And if you push back on their shield and say, stop, that's not an assault, but they're treating it as such.
	You keep saying all these people, you dismiss them because they have four or five assault charges against federal officer.
	And I'm telling you, this is a scenario.
	They're trying to do something with the shield.
	They're beating people. They're spraying CISC acid.
	Someone that's trying to do CPR on somebody and they put their hand up on the shield.
	That's an assault. You put your hand up over here on the other shield saying, stop, please.
	These are assaults.
	Think about this. Cowie Griffin went to freaking prison, solitary confinement.
	He sat out there for 21 days, 14 days in solitary.
	He was in there 20-something days for leading prayer.
	He literally told people to stop.
	People were coming forward.
	He gets up on a high spot, gets a megaphone and says, stop!
	Stop! Listen!
	Listen! Pray!
	Stop! Everybody stop!
	We've got to obey the law.
	We've got to be peaceful. Pray.
	Stop. Take a knee.
	Let's pray. And he went to prison.
	And they stripped him of his office.
	I mean, this is Insanity.
	You know, one thing I want the viewer to know, because I'm sure the viewers are like, oh, what could we do with all this stuff, all these powers?
	You know what we could do?
	Grand juries we could do.
	They don't have control over grand juries, doing petitions, getting grand juries going.
	That's the way you do it. And obviously, don't do a grand jury in Washington, D.C., because you're going to get a bunch of leftists that, you know, I've heard all sorts of horror stories about what's happened in D.C. in terms of jurors sleeping.
	And the next thing you know, somebody goes to jail for, you know, 60 days.
	How about jurors flipping off?
	Exactly. There you go.
	And it's like, how did that juror even end up in the jury box?
	You know what I mean? In the Proud Boys trial right now, you have the Proud Boys trial going on right now.
	You actually have a member of the jury that works for BLM. And that's not Bureau of Land Management.
	We're talking Black Lives Matter.
	The Proud Boys and Black Lives Matter, the violent militant group that operates in DC and around the country that was burning stuff down, right?
	And that's not their core principle.
	Look, I don't agree with the context and ideology of Black Lives Matter.
	I agree that all lives matter.
	I agree that they can have the right to march for Black lives.
	Absolutely. That's great. But I think all lives matter.
	And if you're worried about it, then we're worried about stopping Black-on-Black crime.
	That kills way more people than police.
	This is just another one of those idiotic movements that people don't understand and they get sucked into thinking, police violence is killing our people.
	Now your Black violence is killing Black people.
	Way more. Stop that first.
	Don't worry about that. Come back to me.
	Or you want me to help you do a joint action?
	You want to get involved? Okay, great.
	I'm in. I'm in. Now you got me.
	But this, you know, whole idea that this is a white on black police violence scenario is the whole problem is absurd.
	Now, but move on. Back to what I was saying.
	Think in these terms. The ideology here is that you have groups that were opposing groups in many cases, right?
	That fought each other in the streets of D.C. Now, the Proud Boys run out looking to attack people.
	Antifa, they were all more too happy to engage Antifa, right?
	That was kind of the inflection point for the Proud Boys.
	That's what they were after. And Antifa runs out and beats up people coming back from restaurants, and the Proud Boys are going to look for them to try and put a stop to this crap.
	We're going to go out and topple the statues and stare down our history and scare everybody and operate in a fear-mongering way.
	And the problem is we're going to go out and stand up against them.
	My heroes. God bless you guys.
	Thank you. I wish I could have joined sooner.
	Anyway, we'll get into that another time.
	But God bless those men.
	That's how I feel about that.
	It's a reality. I don't support any group that's into political violence and hate, any of that.
	Isn't it ironic, by the way, the way they try to make those guys seem like a bunch of violent nutso's and stuff?
	It seems like anybody that's standing up for our pride is a white supremacist or something.
	45% of them are black and Mexican, by the way.
	Yeah, don't forget they're led by a black and Cuban man, Enrique Targo.
	It reminds me of that episode of...
	What was that episode of that guy?
	Oh, I can't remember now. It's funny, but he's actually, they have a KKK meeting.
	It turns out he takes his hood off and he's black and everybody's like, what?
	Oh, you're talking about the black-white supremacist, Dave Chappelle?
	Yeah, Dave Chappelle.
	I mean, it's like really that funny.
	It's like, oh man, did he not know he was black and Cuban?
	Or did all the, you know, thousands, tens of thousands of Proud Boys around the country and around the globe now not know that the man that was leading him was black and Cuban?
	So you signed up because you wanted to be part of a racist group that's run by a Black and Cuban man.
	It makes so much sense. I mean, I totally get it now, right?
	Anyway. Oh, give me a break, right?
	Anyway, but the point is, is that you literally have a juror that's Black Lives Matter activist.
	Like, not just like went to a few marches, actually worked for the Paid Foundation.
	And that's a juror. Now, that sounds fair.
	hey i got an idea why don't you and i why don't we have a you know just this absolute scenario where people fight in the streets and they said well but it's a political ideology and now it's a political ideology before it was racist extremist body how did the judge i mean how does the judge go around that i mean jury of our peers oh judge kelly's a joke just like these other judges see that's what i'm seeing as far as i'm concerned look if i got to vote on it if you put it to a vote to the american citizens if we hang judge kelly by his toenails and You know,
	or whatever the Constitution, Craig.
	I mean, I say that, you know, but, you know, a firing squad or a new rope or whatever, electric chair.
	I mean, I want to vote. I mean, I want to vote.
	And I vote yes. Yes.
	You're destroying people's lives.
	You're bringing on pain.
	Title 18, Section 242 of the United States Code.
	The criminal code says that he who brings harm, bodily injury, and or damage or death to an individual is capable of receiving an up-to-death penalty.
	I read Title 18-242 in the past to judges, and I will read it again.
	I mean, this is the way it is.
	I stood in the federal court system and read it to the judge there.
	Title 18-242.
	And response? I don't think they liked it.
	Wow, wow. This is not individual acts.
	You have to have courts for these things.
	We have a justice system, but you have to have charges.
	This DOJ, they're going to be gone.
	Listen, it's always fun for he who wields the power until it comes back the other way.
	These guys don't think about the future.
	They don't think about the future. That's the issue.
	No, actually, I think they are thinking about the future.
	And what they're thinking right now is they've gone so far that they're past a point of no return, right?
	These people are past a point of no return.
	If they were to stop now and we get back in control, like they accidentally slipped up and let us get to the house, you can't tell me.
	We lost all the swing states, right?
	All the swing states, but we got California and New York.
	They didn't see you coming when they cheated in the elections there.
	That's what happened. They didn't see us coming in California and New York.
	They never thought it was going to be that big of a red wave.
	They operate in their own little nucleus there of believing that everyone believes the way they do because they operate in places like DC and they operate in the inner cities of Chicago and all the major cities around the country where there's a lot of people that support them.
	But that's not the majority of America.
	The majority of America does not want that kind of a country.
	We don't want a communist nation.
	We like capitalism.
	We want to go to work and earn it.
	We want a chance to make our lives better.
	The people that have been sold off living on the government teat are the people that are believing that stuff in these inner city communities.
	and they just went through COVID and they showed them they didn't have to go to work anymore and they could stay home and get paid, play video games, hang out inside, and nobody has to put their boots on and get to work. That was something they really came to enjoy and now we're just selling more of it. We're sowing the seeds of the discourse here, the future of the nation to undermine and destroy and undercut capitalism and our democratic system of government under a constitutional republic. Exactly. Not a democracy.
	Exactly.
	Exactly. So take us through your, I mean, you know, you have to go through a final hearing or whatever.
	Take us through what happened there.
	Yeah, I spent about an hour and...
	Well, the first one I went in, it's called sentencing, right?
	I went to sentencing and the judge was making the statements about their being.
	The only people that were present that day were heroes and patriots for the Capitol Police.
	I was like, oh, no, no, no, no, you don't know.
	Sorry, Judge, that's wrong. You're incorrect.
	Judges don't like to be corrected.
	But I'm sorry, you just put on a robe and represent the court.
	You should be there representing the truth, not an opinion.
	And I corrected her and I think she knows that now.
	I have respect for her because she definitely did have a change in this.
	She did become enlightened.
	But where would a judge get information?
	Where would they get the kind of truth that we have?
	They don't go through evidence, right?
	They actually try and limit their exposure.
	But what are the conversations at the D.C. cocktail parties?
	What are the conversations that are going on by those barred events, right?
	Where you have the bar attorneys and the bar judges and everybody hanging around again.
	What are those conversations there?
	Think about that. What do you think those conversations are like?
	So they've got to go back to those same dinner parties and cocktail parties and events and political party events and answer for how they have conducted themselves amongst their peers.
	Not our peers. These aren't your peers.
	They're not interested in that. Back to that.
	So I spoke to the judge and I spoke to her with respect to the court.
	This wasn't a matter of disrespect.
	It's a matter of correcting a wrong.
	If you could be wrong, it doesn't matter what label you are.
	You're still a man, right? And we're still a fallible creature.
	So man, woman, right?
	What have you. But there's only two genders, by the way.
	Anyway, so I don't care what you dress like.
	You can do whatever you want. I support you.
	Go home. Screw who you want.
	Love who you want. Go in your bedroom and do it.
	I don't care. Go out and, you know, kiss each other on the street.
	Don't care. Leave my kids out of it.
	We're going to have a problem in the story.
	Exactly. Back to this.
	I'm sorry. I always got to quantify these statements this day and age because I don't want somebody to take these clips and be like, oh, look, see you.
	He's that guy. No, I'm not.
	I'm a human being. God-loving and God-fearing Americans.
	Anyway, man, constitution-loving guy.
	Anyway, so here we go. So let's jump back in there.
	So the judges. I corrected the statements or the inactions or wrongs.
	I submitted video evidence to the judge to prove to her that there was definitely heroes and patriots present outside of that.
	I submitted video evidence that showed that nine and a half of the 12 minutes I was inside the building, I was helping the police.
	Yeah, I took a shot of whiskey.
	Whoopi-doo. If you're taking a shot of whiskey in that building, it's somehow illegal.
	If there's something wrong with that, Nancy Pelosi and her cronies will begin life in prison, right?
	I knew you were going to go there.
	Yeah, I mean, fuck you.
	Oh, shit. Sorry. You have to edit that one, I guess, guys.
	I'm really sorry. No, no. You curse the way.
	I'm sorry. It's bullshit.
	It is bullshit. And I think America is tired of it.
	I mean, I think it's, you know, the fact that I got called to the South Dakota legislature to come testify before a committee, regardless of the outcome.
	That's enough. I mean, if they're starting to take legislative actions here, nothing passes on the first time.
	It's always, you know, kind of a trial and error scenario.
	Maybe they brought me up there because they needed a lot of error.
	Maybe a lot of truth. I don't know what they brought me there for, but God bless them.
	You know, the whip up there, Representative Jensen.
	Fantastic guy. Great time up there.
	But listen, judges... When you stand before him, be honest.
	Tell the truth. Be out there.
	I don't recommend it if you're a January 6th defendant unless you want to go somewhere out.
	I mean, what I did in my case is very different, folks.
	You don't have any idea. I mean, I can prove a lot of injustice.
	I could prove so much more.
	And I have armed with so much more information.
	I spent two years on this.
	Don't think. Don't take this lightly if you're a J6 defendant.
	Don't think you're just going to be like, hey, I heard this guy, Trenison.
	He went up here in Title 18, 242.
	I'm telling you, you're going to prison for a long time if you walk in there with that.
	You're not me. You haven't been doing this two years and you don't have our help, then I would not recommend that.
	You're a man or a woman.
	You're going to make your own decisions, but please don't come at this with the idea of I watch Trennis on TV and now I'm going to go be a jailhouse lawyer type two and operate in federal court and be successful.
	First of all, again, you don't have what I had working for me in my case.
	So I paved a pathway.
	Sean Witsman followed up that path.
	He was the next one to go after me with the same structure and strategy.
	I worked with Sean on that. Sean wrote a brilliant 37, 38-page letter of his own.
	He's a brilliant, articulate writer.
	And it was a good study of the law, but we helped Sean along.
	We got him through my sentencing memorandum and helped him understand what happened there and how to do it.
	So we have paved a path.
	I mean, I blazed a trail for people in this, but you have to follow it carefully.
	And your attorney's not going to like it.
	They're going to tell you no. I mean, they're just going to go, no, no, we're going to go in there and you're going to beg for mercy and I'm so sorry.
	No! I'm not sorry.
	I'm not going to beg for mercy.
	I'm not saying that, look, I went through a window.
	Okay, I'll own that. But I'm done apologizing.
	I've apologized enough times, right?
	I'm not going to keep apologizing for this.
	I'm done. I drank a shot of whiskey and I helped the Capitol Police for the nine and a half of the 12 minutes I was there.
	The other part, I was singing the national anthem and leading the Pledge of Allegiance.
	So here's my two thumbs up to that, my big that to the courts.
	I've had enough. I just come right out and say these things to the federal judge.
	So don't think that, you know, hey, I love when the left is like, oh my God, I'm going to send this to the judge.
	She's got to be so tired of hearing the shit from you idiots that she's already heard from me in person that, you know, go for it.
	Send it to her. She knows.
	I was honest. I said it in the floor of the court.
	Yeah. And for the viewer, I mean, you've got to speak from a certain level of confidence.
	You've got to do a lot of homework for this sort of thing.
	You have to remain in honor.
	That's very important. If you fall out of honor, they get you.
	It's going to be contempt of court.
	And it's not easy doing this sort of thing.
	And believe me, I speak from experience.
	You've got to do a lot of research and homework, which obviously you've done for the last two years.
	Yeah, I mean, here's the thing is, look, I'll sit down and debate these areas of the law with any seasoned attorney.
	I don't care if you're Alan freaking Dershowitz.
	Let's go anytime you're ready. I've literally memorized these codes.
	I know this. I backwarded it forward.
	I'm an intelligent enough being.
	I think, look, an average sixth grader could become an expert on this if they took a class on 5 or 10 or 15 different laws that are being broken here and become an expert on that.
	I mean, you could teach a class on it.
	I mean, a lawyer's got to know, you know, an immense amount of legal knowledge, training, you know, positions, where they're going to be in, you know, in different parts of this, how to operate, what the rules of conduct are, ethics, etc., etc., etc.
	They say 80% of law school's ethics nowadays, which I find just absolutely hysterical.
	60% ethics or whatever it is.
	It's a majority of that piece.
	At any rate, I find that to be absolutely amusing.
	It's like, well, ethics. Wow.
	Okay. Emperor Palpatine's into ethics on that level.
	You know what I mean? Here's the thing.
	I always say it like this.
	If I had to go sit down and take a test on the Bible with my pastor, I would be absolutely screwed.
	Like, I mean, this person's lived theology their whole life.
	They know this backward and forward.
	They can quote from scripture after scripture after scripture.
	I'm done there, right?
	Take a fork in me. But you give me a little time.
	And by the way, have you ever seen this?
	The Founder's Bible. Oh, that's awesome.
	Yeah, yeah, I have actually. Oh, dude, so awesome.
	I mean, anyway, but if I get to go over here and I get to go in here and I go, okay, we want to work in Ezekiel, okay?
	I want to go in for Ezekiel.
	And I don't get to tell him, and we're going to go take this test, and we've got two years to study.
	He's got to study the whole Bible, and I've got to study just Ezekiel.
	I'm going to win. I'm going to get a better score on Ezekiel.
	I can memorize Ezekiel in two years, right?
	And it's a whole hell of a lot more information in Ezekiel than is needed to know on these 15 charges that are floating around in this January 6th, though, and what's happening.
	Plus, I've been following these cases.
	I know how to use the evidence better than these people.
	Like I said, I'm not a lawyer. I can't give legal advice, but I can sure as hell tell you where they're screwing up.
	And we know this. But we work with a whole bunch of them.
	We're paying a lot of lawyers.
	We're paying for their places to stay.
	We're paying for their opportunity.
	We're paying the paralegals.
	We're paying video investigators.
	I know this stuff backward and forward.
	Anyone can become an expert on this and, you know, the amount of time we've spent at it.
	Totally, yeah. And the amount of cases.
	You know, I mean, cases triaged.
	Hundreds. Yeah, yeah.
	To the viewer that's scared about like law, I think trying to see you've obviously had much bigger of a crash course than I have.
	But this stuff's actually like they try to mystify.
	They try to throw Latin words in there.
	They want to make it really confusing.
	They want to have their own code in that language because it's based upon fraud.
	Let's be real here. But once you You know, realize that it's all actually really kind of simple.
	They're just trying to kind of make it seem harder.
	It becomes, I mean, it's kind of like reading Shakespeare, where after a while you get it, you know what I mean?
	Even though you didn't necessarily grow up in the 1400s, you know?
	Yeah, it's not that complicated.
	It's really not that complicated.
	And here's the thing.
	Unfortunately, you can't apply common sense to it.
	You can apply or you can't?
	Well, I mean, see, you can for actually the way the laws are written, you know, the ideology behind the laws.
	What you can't apply common sense to is to how the courts work today because they just don't operate within the law, first of all.
	They're in violation of all kinds of parts of this.
	They're in violation of the rules of professional conduct.
	Due process violations go on all the time.
	Deprivation of constitutional rights go on all the time.
	Brady violations go on all the time.
	It's just largely like, well, they're like, well, but it doesn't outweigh this and the case.
	Well, is it Brady or not?
	Did you withhold evidence? Is there information I didn't have available to me?
	The judge says, well, yeah, but I don't think that would have helped you that much.
	Yeah, totally.
	That's not what Brady reads.
	Yeah. And, you know, this is why, again, going to the head of the snake, until there's competition, there's no way this is going to be fixed.
	You can't have a self-policing organization from the bar, you know, head down to its toe and think that these judges are ever going to be held accountable.
	So whenever people talk about, oh, you know, America 2.0, how we're going to clean the system up.
	It's not going to be clean until you break up in a monopoly because a monopoly by its own nature and its essence, it's made as a monopoly in order to control and basically become an authoritarian force as opposed to be a force for equal justice.
	Yeah, Vim, such intelligent statements.
	That's great. Most bald guys.
	Thank you. Thank you. I mean, I tell you what, you guys always got it right.
	You guys are the shaved heads.
	You got so much good information.
	That's hilarious, man. Right.
	Well, if we're going to categorize people, I mean, that's the way we do things anymore, right?
	So we're going to play identity politics.
	The guys with shaved heads are really smart.
	Glasses. Bald is brilliant.
	Oh, gosh. I mean, I can't go up against that guy.
	He's got a shaved head and a beard.
	That guy's got to be the most brilliant son of a bitch on the face of the planet, right?
	You're hilarious, man. That's the way identity politics works today.
	Seriously, I know. So where do we go from here?
	I mean, we're looking at all this authoritarian insanity.
	Actually, before we go there, what was the result of your, I mean, you could have basically faced 23 years.
	What ultimately happened? What was the conclusion?
	Yeah, finally got down to the plea.
	I was facing up to a year, guideline six months at the tail end of this thing.
	And I went, look, I mean, I don't recommend this either.
	I'm telling you. I hate to even tell people what I did.
	They don't work on other cases.
	I kind of tell them how that went.
	I mean, I went in there and I literally went with the Pharaoh, do your worst.
	I told the judge, I said, I don't care if you go outside the guidelines.
	Give me 10 years here today. I'm going to be honest with you, Your Honor.
	There's nothing you can do to me or say to me or any punishment you can render that's going to change anything I say, think, or do.
	So do whatever you got to do. But it's not within your power.
	To change me.
	There's no act that I'm so ashamed of that I want to change.
	Sorry. I said, I own the part.
	I shouldn't have gone in through a window. Do you want to do whatever you got to do?
	Look, I won't be back going through a window anywhere.
	I'm telling you this. When I come through Congress, I'm going through the front door and there's accountability held all over the place, baby.
	I'll come right through the front door next time.
	Wow. Nice. And?
	Read that how you want.
	So what happened? Did you, I mean, you were facing 23 years.
	What was the ultimate result?
	Yeah, so I got 20 days of intermittent confinement in a federal prison, after which they've, through additional communications we've had since then, things have somehow turned to where I've got to stay 20 days in my house, which it's not even actually in my house on my property, strangely enough.
	None of the prisons wanted me.
	It was interesting. I will tell you this.
	I mean, they didn't look at Chernus and go, man, look at that big bruiser guy.
	He's so scary. We can't handle him here.
	We don't have a facility with enough chains and enough steel and concrete to hold that man.
	There's something about me they didn't want.
	None of those facilities wanted me.
	Imagine that. Could I tell you what it was?
	In my opinion. Alright, so I got a friend that's like quite brilliant and they literally kicked him out of jail because he taught all the prisoners to do habeas corpuses and get them out of jail.
	So they're like, we need to get this guy the hell out of here.
	He's releasing all the prisoners.
	And I'm thinking somebody like you that is used to studying this stuff, you would have probably figured that out really, you know, quick.
	Yeah. Oh, here's the thing.
	I'm going to tell you what. You put me in a prison facility and I'm going to flood the court system.
	I mean, it's going to be like the dam broke and you son of a bitches will regret every minute of it.
	It's not a threat. It's just where I'm actually looking forward to starting to help.
	So we're going to get through this January 6th thing and get through these people through and we bandwidth.
	We're expanding the organization.
	Condemned USA has really come a long way.
	We've helped a lot of people.
	We're going to keep helping people.
	God bless people. We can use the donations.
	We need the help. This doesn't go to line my pockets.
	This doesn't go for fancy trips and big money for trying to send my private jets.
	We're flying economy around the country and going places and doing what we do.
	We are working on case after case after case after case.
	I now have the two youngest January 6th defendants that we're helping.
	There's two 18-year-old kids that we're helping.
	Those two cases will eat you alive.
	It's just absurd. One of these young men has had this really terrible life I was mentioning to you.
	Is this a live show?
	No, we're recording that and we'll make sure to...
	Sorry, guys.
	I got away with just my thought and I realized that this is juvenile time for this person.
	All good, brother. But seriously, there's so much here.
	There's so much needed.
	So many people need help.
	There is so much going on, so much travesty, so much injustice in this day and age.
	It's like, you know, literally persecution.
	You know, we hear it all the time, and I think it's overused.
	It's not wrong. It's not the wrong choice of words.
	It's just worn out.
	And it gets worn out when you have a thousand people.
	You're persecuting a thousand people.
	And we're going to persecute thousands more.
	They're just getting started. They're going to go back and kind of re-indict and give more charges to some of these people.
	And this is the way it's working right now.
	Hey, Mr. X, right?
	Mr. Smith, we saw that you had these four misdemeanors and we charged you with the obstruction of Congress.
	So that's four misdemeanors and a felony.
	Take the plea deal. Take the plea deal.
	No. Take the plea deal.
	No. Take the plea deal. No. And then all of a sudden it's, okay, you won't take the plea deal?
	Fine. Now we're going to add another felony.
	We're going to add impeding federal officers in their course of duty.
	What? I didn't impede anyone.
	So? Crazy. So?
	We got a jury that'll say you did.
	And if you don't like it, we have the guys with the guns.
	They're going to pick you up for it.
	And we have the guys with the shackles that are going to hold you for it.
	It's crazy. We're going to do what we want.
	Literally, if you're in a foreign country that was doing that to you right now, you could apply for refugee status in the United States.
	How do we apply to refugee status?
	Hold on. I've got one better for you.
	Vladimir Putin has offered people political asylum.
	Wow. One of the J6 defendants that's sitting indefinitely detained right now is there because he talked to the Russian embassy about political asylum.
	Wow. Wow.
	That is sad. Look, you guys don't know this.
	There's six people on the run right now out of the country.
	Wow. Yeah, there's people in multiple places around the globe.
	A couple of them speaking out, and they're not too vocal about it, but a couple of them speaking out about it.
	We do have one that's in Russia.
	We do have another one in another country.
	And we have four that we're not really that sure about where they are.
	One of them, we have another suspect where they are.
	But look, people.
	Political asylum. Just think about this.
	You need to look no further than inside your own country and what you're witnessing here.
	What are all these people doing leaving California?
	I mean, California is a beautiful state.
	Yeah. I mean, you know, aesthetically, it's beautiful.
	You know, look at it. I mean, you got mountains, you got beaches, you got, I mean, I live there.
	It's beautiful. Awesome.
	I love that place. The best, I mean, the best state policies, they can't take the Gavin Newsom's, they can't take, you know, the drug use, they can't take the CRT in the schools.
	You have people here, literally, Literally escaping.
	You have refugees from other states in this United States moving to places like Texas and Florida.
	They're not moving from California to New York or New York to California, all right?
	These people are all coming to red states.
	They're escaping the lunacy for them, their children, and what have you.
	Quit escaping it.
	Go back there and fix it. Jesus, cowards, go over there and get to work in your state.
	Yeah, I hear you. I mean, Blood Money Episode 1, the first episode we ever did was actually about a dude that was seriously considering defecting to Russia from England, by the way, due to similar issues.
	Let's just call it that. Due to similar injustices, he felt that as a man and a father, he was much safer in Russia than he was in England, where he felt like the woke culture was trying to destroy his family and presented a lot of evidence to show to be so.
	Yeah. Yeah.
	You know, you've got more of this to come, folks.
	You don't get out there, get involved, get activated, get behind your people.
	These people need your help. Come see us at Condemned USA. They're veterans.
	They're all kinds of folks out there.
	The police officers are veterans.
	They're moms and dads, just like you.
	They're friends and family members, and they're being persecuted.
	They've just lofted just amazing amounts of charges into this thing that are absurd.
	I mean, they have nothing to do with their conduct, but they don't Care.
	And the only serious people facing 28 years, 38 years, 34 years, they're calling, I mean, this probably sadistic conspiracy.
	The Oath Keepers are not sadistic conspiracy.
	We represent, you know, we put representation into Stuart Rhodes.
	Ed Tarpley came from our camp.
	I've introduced Ed to this whole thing, brought him in.
	Ed's going to be representing some other folks we're working on right now.
	Amazing. Unfortunately, those two jerk offs, Linder and Brighton Dallas, are not good men.
	Well, at least one of them's not.
	I'll get into that. It was a horrible representation.
	And for anyone to say that was a fair trial, that's one of the biggest tragedies I've ever seen.
	You're talking about the Oath Keepers trial?
	Yeah, Stuart Rhodes. Yeah, we were in the middle of that one.
	I'm in the middle of this one. We have Dominique Pozzola in this one.
	We're actually helping out Joe Biggs, Dominic Pozzola, and I'm sorry, excuse me, Joe Biggs, Dominic Pozzola, Zachary Rail, and all these guys, you know, we're in the middle of this trial, right?
	Smack in the middle of it. So how does a legal advocacy, a guy that's not a lawyer, smack dab have an organization that's born over under two years ago, and it's smack dab, there's legal advocacy, there's thousands of them around the country, and this organization's smack dab in the biggest two trials in the history of the country in criminal case.
	Yeah, we've done a lot of pieces on non-profits and, you know, there's plenty of non-profits out there that are not necessarily doing the things that they should be doing.
	But this is an example, man, where the proof's in the pudding, right?
	You went from 23 years, facing 23 years, firing four attorneys and then managing to get 20 days house arrest.
	The proof's in the pudding. I mean, if you figured that out and you could teach other people to do that, you're a great American.
	I don't know what else to say. I'm firing five attorneys, but who's counting?
	Five attorneys. I'm sure every single one was a joy to fire too.
	I made one mistake along the way and actually I work with that person a lot now.
	He's a good man. So I made a mistake.
	Mistakes remote on both sides.
	Let's put it there. We had a disagreement and I fired him.
	That was more of a disagreement. So I really only fired four because of what they were doing.
	I had to make a decision and do something else.
	Look, I'm not telling you we can win your case.
	That's all I'm telling you. But I'm telling you we might be able to change your case.
	That's kind of where it is.
	And we don't get paid.
	We're not like, hey, give us $5,000 and we'll do this.
	That's not what this is. We fundraise.
	We take donations to do this.
	So like I said, yeah, you're right.
	We have countless people. We have testimonies that are there for you.
	Yeah. Amazing, amazing.
	Trent, thank you so much for what you're doing.
	Thank you so much for your time and what you've been doing this last three years.
	And seriously, a lot of respect to you, man, for like taking the bull by the horns.
	And really, I wish if people just took the time to learn law, the more people know this stuff, the better.
	The reason why we're in this mess is because people, until a crisis happens like this, they don't think, hey, let me figure out what my rights are, you know, but amazing what you've done.
	Yeah, don't fall into the misconception that an attorney is going to fight vigorously for you.
	There are some out there.
	They're just very far and few between.
	So we're going to get a track record on those people and see how many cases they've taken to trial and how many of them they've taken to plea.
	Exactly. And we got a lot of videos on that.
	We got many more coming out.
	Remember at the end of the day, if everybody's holding a bar card in a room already, you know, you don't know which master they're serving.
	And sometimes they're serving the judge because they want to have favor in front of the judge and you might get thrown under the bus by a plea deal or whatever in order for that judge to have a good relationship with that lawyer.
	If you don't think in some times that these people don't have five, six cases before federal courts and they're not like, hey, you know, I kind of let this guy get a little bit more.
	It's not that bad for him.
	He can take it or afford the fines or whatever.
	And then maybe this guy over here would do a little less.
	I call it prosecutors.
	Like, hey, you know, aim is prosecutor.
	It's kind of worked through that.
	You think that stuff doesn't have you crazy?
	These people all go to dinner together, they go have drinks, they sit down and have steaks and martinis after you go to prison and sit around and talk about that.
	I mean, I'm just telling you, that's the way it is.
	You're insane if you don't think it happens.
	And by their own legal definitions, I mean, they don't look at citizens, quote unquote, in a very high regard.
	You know what I mean? It's like, so yeah, there's definitely a hierarchy there, a little bit of a caste system and doesn't play to people's favor a lot of the time.
	Trennis, this was amazing.
	Thank you so much for coming on.
	We'd love to catch up with you in the future.
	And for all the folks out there, make sure, Travis, you can put on that URL again, condemnedusa.org, right?
	Yeah, r.com, either one.
	You can find us either one. Hey, listen, you need to go check out what we just did in the South Dakota legislature.
	I'm making some waves up there.
	Thanks for having me on, guys.
	Got to run. I love you. Thanks so much, Vim.
	And the South Dakota legislature thing, is that on your website or...
	Not up yet, man. I just got back from there last night.
	Okay. Okay. We look forward to checking that out.
	Just a quick little thing. Join us for Blood Money episode.
	I think we got episode 31 coming up.
	I don't know. We're losing track here, but we will have it up on the America Happens website tonight, americahappens.com.
	And thanks again, Trennis. This was amazing.
	Thanks, brother. Take care. See you soon.
	This is a peaceful protest.
	It sure is.
	The cops are safe.
	And we're safe.
	No one burned anything down.
	No one stole anything.
	No one destroyed anything.
	Nobody sees me cursing at the police.
	This is what you call a peaceful protest.
	We don't destroy what belongs to us.
	We don't burn our cities.
	We're not here for anything violent.
	This is a peaceful protest.
	Yes!
	Woo!
	Woo!
	Don't abuse the US citizen for exercising their constitutional rights!
	Woo!
	Woo!
	Singing.
	Remember, do not break, do not damage, do not harm.
	We are in a peaceful protest.
	We are executing our constitutional duty when we have been cheated from a stolen election.
	Do not harm the police.
	Do not hurt the buildings.
	Do not destroy your own property.
	This is your house.
	We are not here to destroy anything.
	We are not BLM. We are not Antifa.
	We are the citizens of the United States who have been wrong.
	This is a peaceful protest.
	Yes, sir. What time do you think we can get some people out of here?
	There's more coming. Sir, we're not here to hurt you or harm the building.
	You see what's happened here.
	This has finally happened.
	It's been a powder keg. Sir, we don't want to hurt anybody.
	If they hurt us, they're violating the Constitution.
	Sir, somebody get this picture!
	Payback the law and support the police!

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