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kevin corke
If you're like many Americans and you've been waiting for justice, you know, for less talk and more perp walk, well, that time may finally be at hand.
President Trump's handpicked U.S. attorney in Virginia, Lindsay Halligan, is reportedly planning to ask a grand jury in the coming days to indict former FBI director James Comey for allegedly lying to Congress.
Now, the probe into Comey centers on whether he lied, as you pointed out during his September 30th, 2020 testimony about his handling of the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.
And this is key under federal law, prosecutors have exactly five years to bring a charge.
Still critics note that a month-long investigation into Comey by a since removed DOJ prosecutor failed to establish probable cause of a crime.
But the president, as you know, has been critical of Comey for years over his handling of that investigation, and you may remember he fired him back in 2017.
And this is actually interesting as well, Sean.
We have news tonight that Comey may not be alone in facing an indictment soon.
There are reports tonight that New York H. E. Letitia James could also be indicted.
In the coming weeks, something we will keep a very close eye on.
unidentified
In the coming weeks, something we will keep a very close eye on.
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Oh, Jerry.
benny johnson
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And I needed a laugh today.
We just got off of an interview with John Solomon.
Very interesting.
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25th.
Where does the time go?
Former FBI director, James Comey is expected to be indicted to today, Junior.
Letitia James and John Bolton following quickly behind him.
Apparently they found, and I have this uh confirmed, they found classified documents inside of John Bolton's house.
Not just a few, a lot of classified documents.
And so get ready for that.
Letitia James.
The indictment is around the corner.
And of course, to talk about that, we're gonna have Mike Davis on.
Mike Davis famous for saying that he's gonna throw Letitia James's fat ass in prison.
I'm just quoting.
Okay.
I'm just quoting, but uh, he'll be on the program right away.
Rudy Giuliani is on the show as well.
Somebody who knows a lot about Rico and law and order.
We're gonna talk with him about locking up Antifa.
Trisha McLaughlin, who is the spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security.
We've known her for a long time.
We love Trisha.
She just got married, actually.
Uh but ALX, what's her actual title?
We just we've known her for so long.
Like, we're not one, we're not big about like titles and formalities around here.
I don't know our actual title.
I know that she is the uh official spokesperson for Department of Homeland Security.
Uh works hand in glove with Chrissy Gnome and will be on to answer questions about left-wing domestic terrorism.
Assistant secretary, assistant secretary, holy smokes.
Okay, geez.
Got some important people on the show.
Congressman Jimmy Patronus as well on the program to talk about Republicans uh growing a pair in Congress.
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Ladies and gentlemen, somebody who will certainly need a little extra protection in the federal penitentiary is going to be a former FBI director, James Gome.
I gotta tell you, there's a lot of, you know, there's like there's a lot of Bible verses about pride.
And let's just say pride cut goeth before destruction.
And this is something that has been enumerated time and time again in the scriptures.
It's something to live your life by.
The way that we do that is obviously I asked to be roasted in as many memes as possible.
There is a group chat at our company that is like a constant uh roasting of me.
You want to stay humble.
I don't ever I'm proud that I went to community college in the middle of a hog field, all right, in Iowa.
I uh will never lie about my credentials, and we like staying humble around here.
Uh and we thank you, the chat, for keeping us that way.
James Comey does not like staying humble.
James Comey has not only bragged about his crimes, James Comey has done so live on TV and on camera in front of audiences of thousands.
There's a very special and unique clip that I like to play because we're going to talk about how the uh news cycle is spiraling very quickly against James Comey.
MSNBC, CNBC, all breaking the news yesterday that James Comey will be indicted in the Eastern District of Virginia.
And we gotta say that this is the FAFO.
Bro literally lied, literally bragged about lying on camera.
Bro bra okay, so he bragged about spying on Trump.
Do we have the Lindsey Graham clip?
You can't get me that one.
So he so get me the Lindsey Graham clip where Lindsey Graham asked him straight up.
Do you spy on Trump?
This is amazing.
I don't get to show you how much of a liar this is.
It's great to not actually be that intelligent, right?
So I'm not saying that I'm dumb, okay?
Like my mom didn't guzzle Tylenol, but like I'm not saying that I'm the smartest guy.
But even I can see the problem with these two clips played back to back.
So clip number one, we have Lindsey Graham looking James Comey down the barrel and saying, yo, did you spy on Trump?
Okay, let's play the first clip.
lindsey graham
Do you stand by your House testimony of March 20th that there was no surveillance of the Trump campaign that you're aware of?
james comey
Correct.
lindsey graham
You would know about it if they were, is that correct?
james comey
I think so, yes.
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
Okay.
Guess that's his right to say that.
We actually know demonstrably that that's false.
I really like to get Tulsi Gabbard back on.
She was on the program and went like rip roaring against James Comey.
Make sure we have that clip from the last time Tulsi was on.
But you know, okay, so let's take that at face value.
James Comey asked there, swore under oath to Congress, did you spy on Trump?
James Comey says, no.
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
Now let's contrast that with James Comey just two months afterwards, during his book tour, with Nicole Wallace on stage in front of a bunch of you know lobotomized seal libs.
I clapped.
I clapped.
Like asking like the same question.
He's he's answering the same question.
Did you spy on Trump?
Listen to James Comey straight up, not only brag about spying on Trump, but about how he was able to spy on Trump, given a very unique and sensitive scenario where James Comey effectively broke national security laws in order to manipulate a situation in order to destroy the national security administrator.
This would be our dear friend, General Michael Flynn.
Um, I mean, he's got to be breaking like six or seven different federal statutes here, and he's just openly explaining it.
Go.
james comey
Both of those administrations, there was process.
And so if the FBI wanted to send agents into the White House itself to interview a senior official, you would work through the White House counsel and there'd be discussions and approvals and who would be there.
And I thought it's early enough.
Let's just send a couple guys over.
And so we placed a call to Flynn, said, hey, we're sending a couple guys over.
Uh hope you'll talk to them.
He said, sure.
Nobody else was there.
They interviewed him in a conference room at the White House Situation Room, and he lied to them.
And that's what he's now played guilty to.
unidentified
What did he think they were coming over there for?
james comey
I don't think he knew.
I know we didn't tell him.
benny johnson
So this is entrapment.
This is James Comey openly lying to the White House, entrapping top officials, spying on Trump.
Many would call this spying on Donald Trump, something that he said under oath that he didn't do.
These are this is just like the reason I talk about my IQ here is that if you're honest, you don't have to remember all your lies.
So it's really great to be just an honest person with your wife, with your girlfriend, with your dog.
With people you work with or people that you like, your friends.
If you're just honest with them, you don't have to lie.
You're you your DMs don't have to look like Harry Sissons, right?
On Snapchat.
When you trap this thing about pathological liars, that they like they trap themselves in this like this cotton candy, make-believe straight jacket world of like trying to defend or remember all their own lies.
See what James Comey's doing there?
I mean, he's like lying to Congress, and then he's like going on stage, like forgetting his lies, and then having all the like lobotomized seal libs clap for him.
And it's uh, you know, it's got to be exhausting, actually.
It's best not to lie.
It's best to just tell the truth.
Then you don't have to remember your lies and cover your ass every 10 seconds.
Be honest.
Because James Comey's lies getting him in trouble.
Let's read.
FBI director James Comey is going to be indicted for lying to Congress, among other charges.
Former FBI director James Comey is expected to be indicted to lying to Congress.
Multiple reports.
Comey has been a staunch critic of Trump.
Sources tell MSNBC that he'll be indicted in the coming days.
I like that they leaked this to MSNBC and make me laugh.
The Justice Department and the FBI did not immediately uh respond to comment.
Trump appointed Lindsay Halligan as acting U.S. attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia earlier this month.
She already is preparing two high-profile indictments.
Her jurisdiction is the same district as where Comey and fellow Trump rival New York Letitia James is being investigated for the 2023 home purchase in Virginia.
Allegan 36 serves as White House senior staff secretary for her uh new role.
Meanwhile, Trump's administration has been laying the groundwork to go after Comey, political enemies, since uh coming into this term.
Is that the acting?
Is this the U.S. acting U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, Lindsay Halligan?
Trump's got a type.
Let's just call it what it is, you know.
Trump's got a type.
Alina Hobba's friend of the show, you know what I'm saying?
Like Trump's just got a type.
And good for him, right?
Good for him.
Don't F around with Alina Haba.
We're doing spending some time in New Jersey, by the way.
Pretty cool.
We got uh we got big time work to do in New Jersey.
We got a uh Alina Hava is the attorney in New Jersey.
And there is new polling out that Jack Citrelli is neck and neck with the CIA operative uh plant, who is in can we grab that polling?
It's up at the top of my page.
It's like uh it's freaking awesome.
We could truly win New Jersey.
So I'm just I don't think we'll have any other time in the show to like talk about it.
So I just want to take like a quick pivot here and say we can win New Jersey.
We're gonna be doing everything we possibly can to hit the ground running.
There is a there is a energy gap that Charlie brought to races like this.
And I'm not saying that we're even close to holding a candle to Charlie, but I I watched what the man did, and we did it beside him in many cases.
And so we are gonna go and like we're gonna go in in our own humble way.
Uh work hard to elect these Republicans.
Do everything we can to bring the energy.
So there we go.
Look at that.
4343.
Can you click on the polling, please?
unidentified
Thank you.
benny johnson
Look at that.
Massive.
Scott Pressler is working with us right now.
We're in contact.
And uh we're gonna rock and roll in New Jersey, baby.
Get ready.
Eastern Dick District of Virginia.
Back of the article, thank you.
Eastern District of Virginia.
Is this a bad just a round of applause, Klein?
Round of applause for the production team here.
unidentified
Random bing bing bing bing bing bong bing bing bing bong bong.
benny johnson
Trump would be so proud of us.
Bing bong, bing bong.
Bing bong, the way that we go around the show.
Uh never dull moment.
Here we go.
Uh Eastern District of Virginia nearing an indictment of one at least one count related to uh claims that Comey lied in his 2020 testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee as to whether he authorized a leak that led to the origins of the Russian inclusion investigation.
These cases stem from a 2017 indictment, uh sorry, incident where Comey, who was FBI director at the time, shared seven memos documenting private conversations that he had with Trump.
Comey then gave those to his friend, Columbia law professor Daniel Richman, who leaked the details of the New York Times on Comey's orders.
This report led to Robert Mueller being appointed uh special counsel.
In September 2020, Comey was brought before Congress to discuss cross-fire hurricane, the codame of the Trump Russia uh investigation.
He was pressed by Republicans about the leaks at the FBI during his tenure, including the memos.
Come denied that he authorized anybody to disclose the memos and the media, stating that his friend he had no idea he was going to do that.
Comey's been investigated for lying to Congress in the past.
He's not been convicted.
2019 DOJ Inspector General report found that he improperly leaked, but was declined to prosecute because Comey's denial was narrow.
Really?
So the DOJ Inspector General found that Comey criminally leaked information.
But, you know, we're just gonna let him go this time.
Just that's how it works.
Imagine the privilege.
Can you imagine?
Can you imagine?
If you're a 98-year-old granny waving a 25 cent American flag who even looked at the Capitol on January 6th, the DOJ made sure that you were put, you were hog tied and immediately deported to Guantanamo Bay under Joe Biden.
That is sickening.
And then the inspector general finds out that James Comey criminally leaks, and they're like, yeah, but like just don't do it again.
Okay.
Well, he did do it again.
And so now he's being prosecuted for it.
unidentified
Thank God.
benny johnson
Uh critics have called it politicised, isn't that rich?
Isn't it rich?
jimmy patronis
Hmm.
benny johnson
MSNBC reports that James Comey is about to be indicted.
May happen today.
We're hearing that it may happen today.
And uh watch the MSNBC Anchoris hold back tears here.
katy tur
Three sources familiar, tell MSNBC.
Former FBI director James Comey is expected to be indicted in the coming days.
The full extent of the charges being prepared against Comey is unclear.
Joining us now, MSNBC Justice and Intelligence correspondent Ken Delaney and MSNBC senior investigative correspondent Carol Lennock, Chris O'Leary, Ashley Parker still with us.
Carol, help us understand the reporting.
carol leonnig
So Katie, we have some sources who say that for several weeks now, the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Eastern District of Virginia, and actually in offices that are potentially much further south than Alexandria, have been eyeing ways to indict Comey, and they are getting very much closer.
The statute of limits, forgive me, rephrase.
They are arguing that Comey, there is evidence to suggest Comey lied to Congress in his testimony on the Hill in September of 2020.
And for viewers out in the audience who may not be legally as nerdy as me and Ken, I'll just say that there's a statute of limitations to charge people with the crime of lying to Congress or perjury, and that's five years.
The five-year statute runs this month.
benny johnson
Well, well, well.
Isn't that fascinating?
It's almost like exactly what they did to Donald Trump.
Where the process is going to be the punishment.
And boy, howdy, is this going to be punishing for James Comey?
Because there's no way out of it.
We've pulled the clip.
Ladies and gentlemen.
This is apparently James Comey being under investigation.
Here we go.
This is clip C. Cut C here.
This is the lie that James Comey told before Congress, the Senate specifically, on September 2020.
unidentified
Go.
ted cruz
He then asked you, quote, have you ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton administration?
You responded again under oath.
No.
Now, as you know, Mr. McCabe, who works for you, has publicly and repeatedly stated that he leaked information to the Wall Street Journal and that you were a directly aware of it, and that you directly authorized it.
Now, what Mr. Kitt McCabe is saying and what you testified to this committee cannot both be true.
One or the other is false.
Who's telling the truth?
james comey
I can only speak to my testimony.
I stand by what uh the testimony you summarized that I gave in May of 2017.
ted cruz
So your testimony is you've never authorized anyone to leak.
And Mr. McCabe, when he, if he says contrary, is not telling the truth.
Is that correct?
james comey
Again, I'm not going to characterize Andy's testimony, but mine is the same today.
benny johnson
But you did authorize leaks.
He did authorize the leaks.
The guy who he leaked to, his buddy, the Columbia University professor, straight up said so.
He's been investigated.
He's given testimony, and he's like, Yeah, my name's Daniel Richman.
I'm a professor.
I'm just a dork.
Like he gave me all of his notes.
He told me to give him the New York Times.
So, like, what do you like he's like dead to rights here?
So, what happens next?
Well, I don't know.
Why don't we uh pull up lying to Congress?
Perjury charges.
Let's find out.
It's absolutely not the first time he's lied about leaks.
James Comey's done this a ton.
Now I find that James Comey has a lot of problems.
And I'd like for him to be charged for something other than perjury on pop-up perjury.
But if this is just the easiest low-hanging fruit that's still here and the statute of limitations, fine.
Let's go with it.
Further, Comey lies.
Let's go.
unidentified
Maybe for you or your uh attorney.
My understanding is that when you shared your memos with your legal team that there was a follow-up for a classified containment operation by the Bureau.
Was there a spill of classified information when you shared those memos?
james comey
Yeah, I'm not gonna talk about something like that.
unidentified
Well, that's important to talk about whether classified information was mischief.
james comey
Whether you think it is or not, I'm not gonna talk about it one way or another.
benny johnson
Fascinating.
What could possibly happen to Jim?
Let's go ahead and read, Jim.
False statement 18 U.S. Code 1001.
The statute criminalizes knowingly and willfully making false statements materially to Congress.
Uh this would be a prostitute uh a pro a prosecution, prostitution, that I don't know about James Comey.
Not sure.
Uh he does have really creepy Taylor Swift video.
Hey, Alex, I know it is not germane to what we're talking about here, but just in case we need it, can you get me the James Comey Taylor Swift video where James Comey is gushing about how much he loves Taylor Swift?
Maybe she'll do a prison tour like Johnny Cash.
And James Comey can watch Taylor Swift in the yard with all the other inmates.
Because here, lying under oath could lead to five years in prison and a 250,000 penalty.
This is false statements to Congress.
I mean, we've just proved demonstrably here that it is a false statement.
We've played all of his own clips and his own words, right?
So he's just a liar.
He's just lying.
We've played all of his lies for you.
Perjury.
18 U.S. Code 1621.
This is the traditional and broader federal perjury statute.
It applies to false statements made under oath, legislative administration or judicial body.
What would happen here?
Perjury is a felony offense and can result in up to five years in prison.
Uh oh.
To be convicted, the government must prove and false testimony was given willfully under oath about uh concerned a concerned material matter.
Obstruction of congressional proceeding, he could be charged with.
Here we go.
18 U.S. Code 1505.
Lying to Congress can also be prosecuted under this statute, which makes it illegal to corruptly influence or impede a congressional proceeding or inquiry.
The government must show that the defendant is intentionally and corruptly endeavoring to obstruct a congressional proceeding, just like the clip that we showed you with Ted Cruz.
The penalty would be conviction for obstructing congressional proceeding can be five years in prison.
Contempt of Congress to U.S. Code 192.
Witness who refuses to testify or produce documents after being subpoenaed.
This could be considered contempt.
Not sure if they have a contempt case here, but anyway, lying to Congress is a serious offense, and that has been at the heart of many high-profile investigations and prosecutions throughout American history.
The decision to pursue these kind of charges lies with federal prosecutors.
So you're in big trouble, James.
What is he going to do?
What is James Comey going to do?
Well, he has been telling us that he's very, very scared.
James Comey has been signaling for quite a while that this is something that worries him quite a bit.
His number one concern, well, for the better part of the last decade at least, has been Donald Trump and Donald Trump alone.
James Comey has gone from a stern man of the law with pure judicial jurisprudence to a rabid partisan activist, like with the flip of a switch, which tells you what?
It tells you that he was always a rabid partisan activist with the veneer of I'm just trying to be the you know good cop here.
Yeah.
It's all trash, it's all garbage.
James Comey did post uh a death threat to the president.
This is AD 647.
This is what got him in the news last over the last couple months.
This is obviously all available nomenclature and all available slang on the internet, has James Comey bending over on a beach in his little Borat Speedo and playing with seashells, putting these little numbers together.
And what the numbers mean is that you should go kill Trump.
That's what it means.
This is what this is what the slang means.
This is and James Comey knows this because it was the FBI director.
And you know these kind of things because this is like gangland talk.
This is like it has a clear political meaning.
James Comey was brought in by DHS and asked about this.
We look forward to asking uh DHS assistant secretary who will be on the program soon about it.
James Comey, very worried about Donald Trump.
Here we go.
alex wagner
Are you concerned that it may get uh uh a test unlike any other if Donald Trump is re-elected?
I mean, when you think about a second Trump administration, what do you think the implications would be for the FBI?
james comey
Oh, seriously for the Justice Department and the FBI because Trump is coming for those institutions.
He knows their power, and I think he has regrets that he didn't work hard enough to corrupt them last time.
So he's coming for them, and that's a danger for all Americans.
He's gonna put people in positions in those organizations.
He he didn't have all stars the last time, he'll have the bottom of the barrel this time, but people who will want to do his will, and that should worry every American.
This election matters because of a reason like that.
People have to participate.
You cannot sit on the sideline.
I don't care how you feel about Joe Biden, you must vote for him because the consequences on the other side are too severe.
benny johnson
Too severe.
I'm so serious.
He says I'm so serious.
I'm such a serious man.
I am the law.
I am James Comey.
I listen to me, because my word is the word of the entire Department of Justice.
I bring justice.
I am a serious man.
I absolved Hillary Clinton of all of her crimes with the wave of a wand.
I refuse to investigate Bill Clinton on Epstein's plane.
I, James Comey, launched the corrupted investigations into Donald Trump.
I spied on Donald Trump and bragged about it.
I lied to Congress.
I broke every law in the book.
I refused to inform Donald Trump that he was being spied on by us, which by the way, I have an illegal obligation to do.
I, James Comey, am a very serious man.
That's why I recorded this video.
This is why James Comey also had this to say just like two weeks ago.
james comey
Hey everybody, welcome back to my Substack.
Last week's cold turns out to have been COVID.
Quite a flashback.
And Donald Trump is still president and still humiliating America on a national stage, standing next to Vladimir Putin.
It's like a dream.
A bad dream you can't wake up from.
But I don't want to talk about that bad dream this week.
I want to talk about a truly inspirational public figure named Taylor Swift.
Of course, I watched her podcast interview with the Kelsey brothers.
Of course, I watched the whole thing.
Although on YouTube, Patricia and I got kicked off for the last 15 minutes and finished it on her phone.
But I watched it.
You see, Taylor Swift and I go way back.
I went to my first concert of hers 15 years ago.
I've been to a second, and I have helped financially support the attendance of a lot of family members at others.
Solve the family's Swifty group chat.
I know all her music, and I listen to it in my headphones when I cut the grass.
So yes, I have a favorite of hers, although honestly for me it's a tie between all too well, 10 minute version, and Exile, featuring Bonnie Varera.
benny johnson
This is real.
james comey
Taylor Swift has grown up with my family.
Provided us a soundtrack, really, as we've grown ourselves and learned and adapted.
benny johnson
Shut up.
Okay.
I you know it makes perfect sense.
He had he does have male swifty energy, doesn't he, Klein?
He has male Swifty energy.
That's true.
There's always, there's always like the guy in the audience with like the limp wrist, who likes stands who like stands like this.
And has like no testosterone, no bone density, who's crying, who's like wiping tears as Taylor Swift is singing.
There's always that one dude in the audience.
There's like photos.
He's like a meme.
Yeah, yeah.
They sit like this.
How do men cross their legs like that?
How do guys like Gavin Newsom cross their legs?
I mean, you know, I don't mean to get too personal here, but like, you know, anatomically correct human males aren't able to sit like that.
Gavin Newsom does that too.
Beta Rourke does.
unidentified
Where they like scissor cross their legs.
benny johnson
Um in this manner.
I don't know.
I don't know.
A message, I mean, a message for the agents.
Yes, this is like the James Comey.
Yeah, are these male Taylor Swift fans?
Okay, there you go.
You can totally see James Comey in one of these.
That's probably what James Comey wore some of his last days at the FBI.
It's probably his outfit that he wore in the office.
We actually literally have it off, James Comey.
This is real.
We don't need AI for this.
Jerry needs AI for the memes.
Luckily, we have an encyclopedic knowledge of James Comey going full Swifty bro.
Look at this.
There it is.
Yeah, exactly.
Here you go.
There.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, oh.
All right.
He's gonna be so popular in prison.
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All right.
Ladies and gentlemen, very interesting times, and it's not just James Comey.
Not just James Comey.
Would you get a load of this?
Yesterday was like uh Christmas morning for us.
Letitia James.
Come on down.
Letitia James here, according to the New York Post.
Grand jury is weighing, it better be a really hefty scale.
Better be one of those reinforced scales, right?
Iron that's bolted to the floor.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
benny johnson
That's right.
They weigh cars on.
Anyway, if they're weighing the Letitia James indictment for false statements.
Statute of limitations, deadline looms.
Here we go.
Uh oh, wait, this is uh I'm sorry, this is a James Comey.
James Comey.
Hey, Alex.
I think that's it.
That is a James Comey indictment, and not a Letitia James.
Let's just go straight to the MSNBC report as ALX grabs an article here for Letitia.
Let's go.
ken dilanian
The same office is expected to charge Tish James, the New York attorney general, with mortgage fraud.
And, of course, Donald Trump...
We all saw it posted on Truth Social in recent days, exhorting his attorney general to charge both of those people as soon as possible.
Uh, but again, you know, this is grand jury's are secret.
This is a fluid situation.
It's also important to know, though, that the U.S. attorney, the Trump-appointed U.S. attorney in this office, Eric Siebert, was essentially forced out last week, uh, in part because he was refusing to bring these cases.
We're told that he was opposed to both uh to prosecuting both James and Comey on these grounds, uh, and he's out.
benny johnson
Well, there we go.
What's going on with Letitia James?
Well, ALX is finding us an article.
I'm sure it won't be hard, ILX.
But we have a very important bit of information, it's some reporting that we have actually done with some people who've done direct investigations uh on Letitia James.
Uh, like, for instance, Sam Anatar.
Sam Anatar has talked us through exactly why Leticia James has to go to jail for this.
He says that there is absolutely no gray area here that the New York City Department of Buildings has validated that Letitia James has been lying about her properties, been lying about her residencies, been lying in order to jump through mortgage loopholes, tax fraud, loopholes, pay lower mortgage rates, lie to the taxpayers of New York and Virginia, and defraud all of them.
The irony of all irony is that this is precisely what happened with President Trump, Leticia James saying that he overvalued his properties, yeah.
Uh, ladies and gentlemen, no one is buying it.
And especially Letitia, who had this amazing comment to make about herself.
unidentified
Simple but fundamental pillar of our democracy.
That the rule of law applies to all of us, equally, fairly, and justly.
No one is above the law.
benny johnson
Good for you, Letitia.
Letitia James was confronted about her mortgage fraud and has a uh very interesting answer here.
unidentified
My question is for Tush James.
Will you apologize to President Trump for wasting millions of dollars and the state of New York for a witch trial?
And how does it feel to know that you will be in prison for mortgage fraud?
Thank you.
Thank you for coming.
We want to thank him for coming.
We respect all opinions.
Everybody knows those allegations are baseless.
They're discredited, and so we want to thank him.
Our next speaker.
Got it.
benny johnson
They're discredited.
Well, how do you explain this, Tish?
It's Your freaking handwriting lady.
Letitia James is said to have granted the power of attorney to purchase 604 Sherling Street, Norfolk, Virginia, as her principal residence.
Would you look at this?
Here's the documents.
So how do you do this exactly?
Klein documents.
Klein.
Documents.
How uh exactly is that legal?
You get all these lavish taxpayer goodies when you have principal residence.
And it turns out she's done this with a bunch of different homes.
She's lied about all of her rental properties.
Kind of makes you wonder.
Whenever you see somebody with a portfolio like Ilhan Omar's, right, and put up that documentation as well.
Letitia James also married her dad.
Speaking of Ilhan Omar.
It's all in the family, right?
You who knew that all in the family was uh predictor of things to come with Letitia James and Ilhan Omar.
So she's married to her dad.
That's interesting.
Here's the direct documentation on that.
She has a bunch of like goons and losers living in all of her properties.
She's lying to the state of New York.
She's lying to the state of Virginia.
She's defrauding the taxpayer.
She's doing every single thing that she accused President Trump of doing.
Also, John Bolton, just very quickly here.
According to Jonathan Turley, John Bolton is in huge trouble.
John Bolton, they found in that early morning raid of his house a pun of classified documents here, according to Turley.
This is not going to work out great for him.
Remember that they raided Mar-Lago for the exact same thing.
Somebody who came on our program constantly during that time period was the great leader, legal leader and the legal hammer of justice for the Trump administration, Mike Davis.
Mike Davis was constantly on our program during the Mar-a-Lago raids.
And John Bolton was constantly on MSNBC saying that Donald Trump should never have classified documents in his private possession.
Well, here, get a load of this.
You took this tweet off too quickly.
Classified material was reportedly seized from the home of John Bolton.
Politicians and pundits who insisted that classified material found in Mar-a Lago justified that raid.
The goose, just by the gander in the narrative surrounding the Bolton raid.
Oh, my.
And Adam Schiff previously supported the raid on Mar-a-Lago as necessary if there were any classified documents still in Trump's possession after leaving office.
He denounced the raid on Bolton's home.
We'll see how exciting this is.
It's going to be just like the free speech argument.
Hillary Clinton's out literally calling for censorship again today on social media.
She's giving speeches today on disinformation and censorship and how there needs to be a censorship oligarchy.
This after an entire week of them like screaming and rending their garments over free speech.
They're such frauds.
They're such liars.
And it's going to be just really fun to see it all unspool.
Somebody who has been spooling it up for us.
It's the great Mike Davis.
Now, Mike, it's waiting in the wings, and it's going to be really exciting to talk to him.
But I just have to play you a very quick throwback here to bring Mike on.
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
We're going to play this clip, then we're going to bring on.
Okay, Mike, you ready?
Here's Mike Davis's crystal ball.
Take Mike to the casino, dude.
Take Mike to the Betty to the Greyhound track.
He can see into the future, baby.
Have a Mike pick your Powerball numbers when you're at the 7-Eleven because Mike can see the future.
I can prove it.
Here we go.
mike davis
You just say this to Big Tish James, the New York Attorney General.
I I dare you.
I dare you to try to continue your lawfare against President Trump in his second term.
Because listen here, sweetheart.
We're not messing around this time.
And we will put your fat ass in prison for conspiracy against rights.
And I promise you that.
So think long and hard before you want to violate President Trump's constitutional rights or any other Americans' constitutional rights.
We uh it's not gonna happen again.
benny johnson
We've been warning people on the show, Mike.
This isn't the same Trump administration.
Stop messing around.
Don't rig elections, don't illegally vote.
Don't try the funny business because we know the team this time and they are not effing.
unidentified
*sad music* you
benny johnson
I'll just continue this, Mike.
And by the way, we've both gotten better cameras since then.
And so it's like wonderful to see how we've just grown up together.
Uh I have actually known Mike Davis for a very long time, something like 20 years at least.
And Mike, you've always been right about these things.
And as we said in that clip, you effed around, and now it seems like the finding out is here.
mike davis
Yeah, I mean, it looks like I woke up on the wrong side of the gutter in that clip, but uh I was right.
I would say to Big Tish, uh, you better lawyer up because justice is definitely coming as I have predicted for three years on your show, Ben, and every other show that I went on.
Uh and uh I'm gonna make damn sure justice is coming because Tish James politicized and weaponized the New York Attorney General's office to go after President Trump and try to bankrupt him for the non-fraud of President Trump paying back sophisticated Wall Street banks on time, as agreed in full with interest.
And Tish James's theory is that Mar-a-Lago, which is 20 acres of the most prime real estate on the planet.
I think it's the only piece of property that touches both the Atlantic Ocean and the intracoastal waterway in Palm Beach, uh Palm Beach, Florida.
Tish James said that it was only worth 18 million dollars, so Trump uh overvalued his property to get favorable loans.
It's just utter nonsense.
A tennis court in Mar-a-Lago is worth more than 18 million dollars.
So I think it is just so rich that Tish James, who went after Trump on a fraud theory, uh mortgage fraud theory, is now facing her own mortgage fraud liability because it's very clear.
She under New York statute, in order to serve as the attorney general, she has to reside in New York.
And she said on this loan application that this Virginia residence was uh was her primary residence.
Well, both of those things cannot be the same.
You can't be a primary resident of New York to fulfill your statutory duty as the New York Attorney General and also be a primary resident in Virginia to get a favorable loan where you're defrauding mortgage lenders.
The same bogus theory she used against Trump for his non-fraud.
Uh, she actually committed fraud.
So I am very excited.
I I hope that the new uh uh U.S. attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia, Lindsay moves forward very aggressively.
And uh uh oh uh and if there's evidence that she committed mortgage fraud, which it looks like there is, you have the documents, then they need to indict Tish James.
And here's uh a bigger reason, other than pure retribution on my part, which I think retribution is a crucial part of justice, by the way, because it restores the victims and serves as a powerful deterrent.
Another reason this is so important because is is this if Big Tish can get away with mortgage fraud, what kind of a uh deterrent does that send to every other American who's applying for a mortgage?
Can they all lie on their mortgage applications and get away with it because Big Tish got away with it?
unidentified
No.
mike davis
So it's time to put Big Tish's fat ass in prison, like I said, right after the election.
benny johnson
Oh boy, Mike.
Well, you made headlines.
There it is, right there.
This is one a fun one from the New York Post.
Uh laying down the law.
I dare you, and uh so on.
So well done, Mike.
We'll see uh what Media Matters has today, and we'll see if Media Matters goes after us for putting up this uh photo of Big Tish.
Um, because I just think it's really funny.
And um, it's not photoshopped, actually.
Um I don't think this one's photo, is it?
Let's see.
I don't know.
I'm not sure.
This is the photo of Big Tish actually watching your interview right now, live.
I can't believe we got this leaked to us.
Uh Grimace, not happy.
What about uh what about another seemingly mythical character, James Comey, at least in his own mind, who is very above the law, who is himself the law, and we've learned through multiple corroborated breaking news reports that James Comey will be potentially suffering from lying to Congress and breaking the law himself.
Uh What do you say, Mike?
mike davis
Yeah, I I think it was I think it was October 1st, 2020.
So just under five years ago, which is important, as we'll discuss.
Uh, James Comey went before the Senate Judiciary Committee, and he was asked questions under oath by Senator Ted Cruz about uh uh crossfire hurricane, the Russian collusion hoax, and uh uh Comey's lies uh to Congress, where to Comey said that he did not have discussions with the media.
Well, his deputy, Andrew McCabe said he did.
So there's clear evidence that McC uh that that Comey lied to the Senate Judiciary Committee under oath, uh just under five years ago, which is perjury.
It's also obstruction of a congressional investigation.
It could also be conspiracy.
And so James Comey, who pretends like he's this boy scout who wants to go after uh, you know, he's this fake Republican boy scout who wants to team up with Obama and Biden and Hillary and Clapper and so many others, and run the Jack Smith, Jay Bratton run the crossfire hurricane bogus investigation and the cover-up to go after President Trump to take him out and to help Hillary Clinton's campaign to cover up her corruption.
Uh, it looks like James Comey's gonna have his own perjury problems.
Now, here's here's the issue.
There's a five-year statutes of limitation on perjury and obstruction of a congressional investigation.
So uh Lindsay in the Eastern District of Virginia, and I think I think oh, Jim, James Comey testified from the Eastern District of Virginia.
I think he testified via Zoom, because this was during COVID and it wasn't in DC, thankfully, because the DC grand jury, grand jurors won't even, you know, indict carjackers.
But uh, so the Eastern District of Virginia has a few more uh sane grand jurors out there, and I hope Lindsay, the new U.S. attorney, moves forward and indicts James Comey for perjury and obstruction of a congressional investigation.
And I think she has to do it by September 30th.
So we're getting close.
Uh I will say this that uh for conspiracy, the statute statute of the limitations does not start until the conspiracy ends.
So when you are covering up a conspiracy, you're continuing the conspiracy.
So even if somehow they can't charge him with perjury or obstruction by September 30th, I I have a different idea, or maybe an additional idea that James Comey could be part of the conspiracy grand jury.
Uh, maybe down in the Southern District of Florida, where they did the Mar-a-Lago raid.
Um, you know, my new buddy Jason Redding Kignones is the U.S. attorney down there.
I think he'd be a great guy to do this.
He's a great patriot, uh, calls balls and strikes.
Uh so James Comey is gonna he's gonna face justice one way or the other, whether it's with Lindsay in the Eastern District of Florida or Jason or Eastern District of Virginia or Jason down in the Southern District of Florida.
This guy is a snake.
And this is what's so important about this, Ben.
Remember what they did.
They politicized and weaponized Intel agencies and law enforcement to try to take out a presidential candidate to help another presidential candidates and to cover up her corruption.
And when that failed in 2016, they continued to go after the duly elected president of the United States and sabotage him.
And then when he left office and took these crossfire hurricane records with him that he declassified, they ran unprecedented Republic-ending lawfare against the former president of the United States, including the Mar-a-Lago raid.
They tried to bankrupt him for not fraud, as we talked about with Big Tish.
They tried to throw him in prison four times for non-crimes.
They tried to take him off the ballot unconstitutionally.
They tried to take off his head twice when they underfunded the Secret Service protection and Biden said to pull the bullseye on him after calling him the gravest threat to democracy.
I have made this my mission over the last three years, and it will be my mission for the next four years.
These lawfare democrats are going to face justice.
And I am doing everything in my power very publicly on your show for the last three years, telling everyone exactly what I'm gonna do, and I'm gonna do it.
I'm not trolling anyone.
I'm gonna put these uh law fairs, I'm gonna help put these lawfare democrats in prison for their real crimes.
benny johnson
What would be your message to James Comey right now, presently, Because we're seeing the leaks.
I'm not exactly sure where they're coming from, but I love if if they are coming from the DOJ, I love that it's MSNBC that's getting them because they constantly platform James Comey.
And so this is almost like a message to James Comey.
I snickered when I saw that breaking on CNBC and NBC and MSNBC.
I'm like, oh, okay.
Yeah, you know, you're going to where the snake lives and you're forcing it.
You're forcing them to eat it.
Uh and so now that it's all but confirmed that it's going to happen.
What is your message to James Comey?
mike davis
Uh lawyer up, big Jim, and we are going to be making the six foot six prison jumpsuits as we speak, because this guy is a snake.
He participated in the biggest scandal in American history.
When they talk about the threat to democracy, crossfire hurricane, and the cover-up is the gravest threat to democracy we've seen in America.
And so justice is definitely coming.
benny johnson
What about John Bolton?
I know we're up against a hard out here, Mike, but John Bolton here, according to the New York Times, uh, sorry, the Washington Post here.
Uh, FBI has seized a boatload of classified documents from John Bolton's office.
The article goes on to say, and this is a well-researched article uh written by deeply credentialed professional journalists, that many of the documents were found hidden and stashed under John Bolton's mustache.
Uh and they had to it was a tough one, but they got them.
Uh so what say you to John Bolton?
mike davis
I would say espionage is a very serious felony, John Bolton.
I think he actually criticized President Trump for having his presidential records in the office of former president in Mar-a-Lago, which is allowed by the Presidential Records Act, whether they're classified or not.
But I if I remember correctly during my 5,000 media hits over the last three years, uh supporting and defending President Trump against this unprecedented Republican law fair.
I think he was one of the uh what one of the people who was criticizing President Trump on espionage.
So it's again, it's quite rich.
Like Tish James, Big Tish going after President Trump for mortgage fraud when she's committing her own mortgage fraud, is going to be quite rich if uh if uh Bolton goes to prison for espionage.
benny johnson
Yeah, right.
And uh a final word, uh Mike, in conclusion here, about the overall grand conspiracy.
This seems to be one that's sort of hit really hard, like a bombshell at the beginning of the summer.
And then things have sort of uh things have sort of like fizzled, not fizzled out, not saying nothing's happening, but we're not talking about Obamagate anymore.
You know, we're not really talking about Russia Gate.
There's been a lot of like various different news cycles and waves.
Um, can you give us sort of a status update?
What do you know?
What can we expect?
Is this for real?
Is it actually gonna happen?
The people that created the Mar-a-Lago raid, you know, are things going to go down?
mike davis
Like I said, I have very publicly for the last three years called for the indictments of everyone who participated in the Russian collusion hoax, crossfire hurricane, and the subsequent cover-up, the conspiracy against rights under 18 USC Section 241, a very serious federal civil rights felony.
Jack Smith and Merrick Garland and Jake Rat and Joe Biden, they're very familiar with this charge, because this is one of the charges they got they brought against President Trump.
One of the four pres uh one of the four federal charges that they brought against President Trump for the non-crime of objecting to a presidential election, which is allowed by the Electoral Count Act of 1887 and the First Amendment.
So these people are used to using this statute, and so now they're gonna be used to being on the receiving end of this statute, conspiracy against rights, 18 USC, Section 241, because again, when you politicize and weaponize Intel agencies and law enforcements to go after your political enemies for non-crimes,
which is exactly what Joe Biden, his Justice Department, Big Tish, Alvin Bragg, Fannie Willis, uh Nathan Wade, uh Chris Mays in Arizona, so many of these lawfare Democrats, whether they were in government or working with them outside of government, like for example, for example, Andrew Weisman, uh, Jake Ratz, Matthew Colangelo, so many others involved with this.
When you do that, you have committed a very serious federal civil rights violation, conspiracy, in addition to other crimes.
And again, I'm pushing very hard for the Southern District of Florida, like I've done for the last three years to open a criminal probe.
I imagine that's going to happen very soon.
If I were a betting man, as you say I am, Ben, I would I would put everything on the line on that bet.
benny johnson
Strong words from a strong man, Mike Davis, somebody who constantly stiffens the spines of Republicans.
Too many cases to actually enumerate and elucidate right now, but he does it.
Man, he does it behind the scenes with the Article 3 project.
He makes sure that Republicans in Washington, DC are scared.
And you actually you want Republicans to be scared of the base.
You want them to know that there's going to be accountability.
And you want them to be strong.
The Article 3 project, right here, ladies and gentlemen, Mike Davis, keeping him strong.
Follow Mike Davis.
He's got close to 500,000 subscribers on X. So go ahead and give him a follow.
Obviously, Mike Davis uh influencer.
Uh and soon we'll be starting his TikTok page to do TikTok dances, I'm sure.
Um, next.
And so we look forward to the influencer.
We we we we've enjoyed watching the influencer Mike Davis blossom.
Uh thank you, Mike.
God speed.
mike davis
Thank you, sir.
unidentified
Thank you.
you you Thank you.
Thank you.
benny johnson
We have the great Rudy Giuliani on next.
He's gonna be joining us.
We hope that he's well after the uh accident.
Uh it was a there's a car accident, and uh hopefully everything's good.
We're gonna ask him in just a moment.
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Speaking of a uh call on a Patriot, let's go ahead and call up Rudy Giuliani.
Live now.
Uh Rudy, how are you?
How are you, sir?
Uh it's good to see you.
So good to see you smile in there.
Uh yes.
rudy giuliani
Superman.
benny johnson
Look at that.
That's right.
Wow.
You have uh and the exoskeleton.
rudy giuliani
Yes, lefty's better watch out.
benny johnson
You know, that's right.
Yeah, you have the real uh armor of God there behind you with the crucifix, and uh, well, have a little extra armor.
I just have to start off by asking everything good with you, Rudy.
rudy giuliani
Everything's everything is good, Benny, but I want to tell you how much I admire what you did for Charlie.
I I couldn't go because I couldn't move at that point.
I can move a little bit now.
Yeah, uh, but I still can't travel.
It's about two weeks.
But I watched the whole thing.
I mean, I was it was like um, you know, I'm an old guy.
I remember the Kennedy assassination.
It was like the Kennedy assassination weekend, except for a much older guy.
And uh I I value friendship above everything else.
You're a good friend.
You're a good friend.
God bless you.
benny johnson
I just want to defend my friend.
That's what the last couple of weeks has been about.
We've been pouring all of our energy into that.
There have been many people who've been trying to tear him down and to lie on his name.
And so we want to make sure that there's a uh penalty for that, a punishment for that.
Um, and we so we've been doing our our best to carry a big stick and be an enforcer.
Um, and I just want to defend my friend.
He defended me when I was indefensible.
Um, and so of course he did.
rudy giuliani
Yeah, he's a unbelievable guy.
benny johnson
Yeah.
Yeah.
rudy giuliani
You know, during during going through that hell, very often many of us felt alone a little bit at certain times.
When you watch that, when you watched uh the weekend and and the whole thing, you realize there are a lot of us.
We're not alone anymore.
We're hardly alone.
We We can't complain it's just a few of us.
benny johnson
Right.
But most importantly, we have God on our side.
That was the most viewed.
Here's the way that I'm uh approaching the media with this important fact uh when they ask about the event with Charlie is that is the the widest seen apostolic event in human history because hundreds of millions of people were able to listen to the word about Christ, uh the testimonies of the president and Don Jr.
Listen, Rudy, you know the president and you know Don Jr.
And their faith is private, right?
And they don't normally talk about it.
When was when was the last time you saw Don Jr. and Donald Trump speaking about their faith in Jesus Christ, our Lord on stage live in front of a hundred million people?
rudy giuliani
You know, and JD expressed something that I used to feel it's a while back, maybe 10, 12 years ago, earlier on when I was in politics, I was always a little embarrassed to talk about my religion.
I don't know why, I'm not embarrassed of my religion.
Maybe it's because of the separation of church and state that we're in is imbued in us.
And I studied to be a priest, and I can talk a lot about religion, and I enjoy talking about it.
In my in my leisure time, only thing I talk about more than religion is sports.
So uh I bore people sometimes.
Uh but I it took me a while.
I I think September 11 got me out of it.
Well, if you September 11, that soon as it happened, I turned to God and I said, Hey, stop it, you arrogant jerk.
This is too big for you.
It's too big for you.
And I said to Bernie Kerrick, we're gonna have to make a decision, and every time we decide something, we're gonna have to say, God, please make it right.
We're not smart enough.
benny johnson
Uh, he just hit me in the heart.
rudy giuliani
God's been a very big part of my life.
benny johnson
You just hit me in the heart, Rudy.
You just remind me that we've lost Bernie and Charlie and Hulk Hogan and so many of the people that uh assisted in 2024 election.
It's been uh it's been a painful year, actually, and wow, it's hard to process.
Uh, okay.
So you studied to be a priest.
I didn't know that.
Would you would you bless us, Rudy?
Uh by would you bless us by by potentially exercising a uh a demon uh on the show live here by uh by telling us about RICO law and by explaining how through through RICO law, through RICO law, how could we dismantle left-wing terroristic organizations?
rudy giuliani
Well, I you know, Mike was was just on with you, and Mike is uh uh I think one of the best in understanding it.
Um RICO should should have been used a lot by us, even when the president came into office the first time.
It's it's exactly what it's for.
The Democrats have set up businesses of crime, the Biden Bidens, for example, with their own crime business.
I can probably identify Antifa is a terrorist organization, it's a crime business at the same time.
Uh RICO was written as a statute by Professor Blakey of Notre Dame to go after the business of crime.
He said, We're putting all these mafia guys in jail, new ones come along, we don't have any impact.
We're helping, we're helping the line of succession.
It'd be like somebody knocking off English kings, and another English king takes over.
Let's go take the property of the English king, and we don't have an English king anymore.
So RICO, the civil aspect of RICO is more important than uh the criminal, but doesn't get the attention.
Maybe the biggest thing I did isn't the conviction of the five heads of the families.
I I took uh Las Vegas facts from the Mafia with Joe to Genova and a whole crew of people, and we did it by going after the Central States Pension Fund, which is the union of the Teamsters through the Central States Pension Fund, Jimmy Hoffa and the Mafia owned Las Vegas.
And if you watch the movie Casino, it'll tell you a whole story of it.
So we went after them.
A judge gave us uh uh a board throughout the team's to board.
Joe ran it for nine years and reinstated a clean board, and now the Teamsters, oh, yeah, they have all the problems other unions have, uh, except this year they've they finally came back to Republicans.
And uh they're a good union, they're a decent union.
In fact, most of the private unions nowadays are a heck of a lot straighter than the government unions.
benny johnson
So how would you use RICO in order to wrap up left-wing terrorists today in our country?
rudy giuliani
Well, every time I prosecuted them, I would put together two or three of their crimes.
I show how they were connected, I charge RICO, and I go get a restraining order on all their bank accounts, and I'd get uh orders from the court and from the grand jury to search all their economics, foreign and domestic.
And uh you look at all the money the uh uh Black Lives Matter women made, the Marxist transgender women who took up race really as a sideline in order to make money.
They were trained as Marxists.
I'm telling you what they tell me, but that's what they tell us in their books.
Making it up, I'm just reading their words.
Therese colores is a very proud, trained Marxist.
The training was on gender, how to how to undermine our morality on gender, which is part of Marx's one of Marx's many goals.
All of a sudden, race came along, they helped in a racial uh demonstration, made a fortune, and they decided to go to race.
They didn't know what the hell they were doing.
They had to bring in other people.
They brought brought in some uh black uh uh Panthers who were paroled by left-wing judges, and they brought in Antifa to be their muscle.
And that's that's how you get 2020.
And uh they walked away with a fortune.
Yeah, I mean, she went and built a three million dollar house, they go on a million dollar vacation.
I mean, they were acting like high-level communists all do.
They're all multi-millionaires before they became high-level communists.
benny johnson
So with Antifa, what is the because you know, you you have this very unique position here, uh Mr. Mayor, where you've been federal prosecutor, you've experienced the terroristic element of violence at scale, and I believe that that's what we're seeing in this country.
And we have a handy chart here.
We can we can pop it up, but I actually had it print it off.
The difference between left-wing violence and right wing violence here in this bar chart.
And it's not, it's not really hard to make case.
There it is too on screen, uh, that left-wing domestic terrorism is the single largest domestic terrorist threat in America today.
Obviously, the last 30 days has proven this, and I don't know how many more bullet shots to the head for on our president or on our generational leaders like Charlie Kirk that we gotta get in order to wake up to this.
So, what would be your message to Republican lawmakers and law enforcement officials on using RICO to take us out?
rudy giuliani
Uh uh after all the RICO statute, the federal statute.
If I were Pam, back in my old job in the Justice Department, uh, I would hold training uh courses for all the U.S. attorneys on how to utilize the RICO statute.
Um you can't believe how available it is.
And you can even, when you don't have a strong enough case, you can even go with a civil RICO case.
For example, we didn't use a criminal statute to take the teamsters back, we used a civil case.
We just took, we just took all their money.
And they didn't get their money back until they got rid of organized crime.
So uh Antifa is a is a strange organization because it's not like the mafia, it's not like the mafia, it's not one big organization, it's uh separate organizations that affiliate with each other.
Andy know can tell you the ins and outs of it.
He can sit down for me.
If I were gonna do a RICO case, I'd get in Andy and we do a chart.
That's how I I took Mike's shirt off.
He was a kid then, and I did a chart of the mafia, and three years later there was no commission.
So I would do a chart of everything we know about Antifa.
I'll tell you another thing I would do.
I hope the statute has it run.
I'd go after them for January 6th.
I have every reason to believe they were tremendously active in January 6th.
I have every reason to believe it because I have text messages saying they they were that the government ignored.
Even even our people on the committee ignored it.
I mean, even the uh Republicans, Republicans ignored some of the most damaging evidence against Joe uh Joe Biden.
Uh Comer does his whole report, he doesn't mention in the report that uh Hunter, in a text, in his own writing, said, for 30 years, I've given 50% of all the money to Joe.
That ends the money problem.
It's called in the law, it's called an admission.
It's admissible.
Judges will tell a jury it's more effective than a confession because it's not coerced, it's volunteer.
And there must have been five of those in the hard drive that I produced.
For some reason, uh Cormer ignored all of them.
Most the most powerful evidence you could get.
How about the following?
In 2019, Hunter and his psychiatrist Keith Abelow say the old man's demented.
We had that before he was elected on tape.
And we go five years, four years debating whether he's demented or not.
We got his son and a psychiatrist saying he's demented and making fun of him.
Nobody knew that.
Why would I I I we can't be that stupid to miss it?
We don't want to make things too bad.
I uh the Democrats exaggerate and lie, and we hide the truth from people.
benny johnson
Yeah.
rudy giuliani
I don't get it.
benny johnson
I don't get it either.
It does seem like there is going to be uh some truth dropping, however.
Uh the reports are that Letitia James in your home state of New York is going to be indicted along with James Comey.
James Comey.
Yep, that's right.
Along with James Comey, potentially John Bolton for having classified documents, James Comey for lying to Congress and uh mortgage fraud for Letitia James.
Exciting.
It's gonna be an exciting little week lined up.
We'll see what happens.
Uh, but in in in in closing here, I'd like to just get your your takeaway thoughts on this.
Um, you know, too uh uh too little too late, or do they have it coming?
rudy giuliani
No, no, never too late.
Uh uh Justice Justice delayed as justice denied.
Well, maybe, but it's still justice.
I mean, we we uh the New York City Police Department, of course, of which I am in love with the police department, five uncles who were cobbs.
I ran it, it was my police department for for eight years.
Uh, I worked with it as U.S. attorney for 12 years.
Uh the New York City Police Department never closes a murder case.
They have murder cases open for the 18th century.
benny johnson
Wow.
rudy giuliani
Uh because of our why?
Because we're part of Western civilization because of the value of human life.
benny johnson
Joe Biden could be a suspect.
rudy giuliani
Uh and there's no Mr. Mayor.
benny johnson
Has anybody ever checked on?
rudy giuliani
Does anybody know where Joe Biden is?
Where was Joe Biden?
benny johnson
On the night of 1861, where was Joe Biden?
You know, in the live boroughs.
You gotta ask.
You gotta ask.
rudy giuliani
It happened maybe two or three times when I was mayor.
They'd come in, and you know what they would do?
They'd add the murder to my ear.
Here I am trying to.
I mean, I am a politician.
I want the numbers to go down too.
Substance and performance.
And then all of a sudden, we're doing great.
No murders for for a week.
And some guy in 1860 got killed, and they put it in my numbers.
benny johnson
Oh, that rascally Biden family.
Uh we'll just blame it on them.
Uh, so yes, parting uh parting words, parting words, Ms. Mayor.
Uh, in in closing here to you, uh, Letitia James.
The Letitia James, I'm sure you have a wonderful relationship with that.
rudy giuliani
President's little kick, which I would describe those uh those uh texts as a little kick to the Justice Department.
Yeah, like, hey guys, get moving.
Uh, I wish they start using the real statutes now.
Look, getting Letitia James on mortgage fraud is good.
It's even a little better than getting uh getting somebody like on tax evasion, particularly because of of the uh hypocrisy of it, right?
So she goes after Trump for a non-mortgage.
She she goes after Trump for a fraud where there's no laws, which is which is a contradiction of a fraud, and they're going after her for a fraud in which she stole tax money and regular money.
That's a lot better.
Uh the really big crimes, though, the one I'm really interested in is James Cardinal Comey.
I am very, very interested in getting him because uh statute probably is run on Pfizer.
That was a much more serious crime than people realize.
I helped to develop the Pfizer court, And it was a sacred duty to do that affidavit because every other search warrant affidavit that I did as a prosecutor.
The defense lawyers ripped it apart.
The other one is completely secret.
You're dependent on me, my credibility.
The judge is depending on me, my credibility, the prosecutor.
And it was drilled into our heads by the attorney general at the time, Edward Levy.
This better be honest.
Or I find anything wrong here.
I'm gonna, first of all, if even if it's a mistake, I'll just take you out of this kind of work.
You don't belong in it.
He knows that.
I trained him.
Call me.
So I have a bit of a personal feeling about it.
And uh that was a horrible thing he did.
He knew how bad that was.
And he did it four times.
Can't be a mistake.
He did it after he knew they had cut off the money to the guy because he was lying.
And he kept putting them down as a source to invade the privacy of the president of the United States.
I don't know.
That gets close to treason.
benny johnson
Well, we'd love to see those charges.
Mike Davis was on saying that he's uh already contacted a tailor for a six-foot-six jumpsuit, orange jumpsuit.
unidentified
So we'll see.
benny johnson
What a nice guy, Mike Davis is.
What a nice guy.
America's mayor is Rudy Giuliani.
Uh hope to hope to take in a Yankees game with you one of these days, Mr. Mayor.
They did a beautiful honor of Charlie Kirk.
They were the first, they were the first bald team to honor Charlie Kirk.
And it was like, I was like, wow, how that's profound.
What a beautiful thing to do.
Um, and uh I love your Twitter uh banner here, which is you and Charlie.
Uh and God bless you, Mr. Mayor.
Uh, everybody followed.
rudy giuliani
Oh, God bless you and your family.
Give the family my love.
They were a great, great credit to America.
Uh one of the most beautiful, one of the most beautiful ceremonies in American history, I believe.
benny johnson
Yep, and the number one largest apostolic event for Christ.
And Charlie would have wanted it that way.
Uh, God bless you, Mr. Mayor, and uh America's Priest.
Maybe I'll start calling you that too.
rudy giuliani
Oh no, please.
I might have to get confessions.
I used to hear a confession.
I do have a confession.
benny johnson
That's exactly that's what this all was.
Thank you.
Thank you, Rudy.
unidentified
Thank you.
benny johnson
you you you Massive breaking news, and it couldn't come at, I guess, a better time.
It's dark, by the way.
The news we have Trisha McLaughlin from DHS set and ready to respond to this.
Let's walk through it.
Cash Patel just posted that the ICE shooting yesterday was a copycat of Charlie Kirk.
He conducted the perpetrator of the ice shooting yesterday, the deadly ice shooting yesterday, by a far left-wing Marxist radical, conducted multiple searches of ballistics and the Charlie Kirk shot video.
He witnessed this video.
He tracked, he searched for apps that tracked the presence of ICE agents.
We talked about those a lot.
He had a handwritten note recovered that said, hopefully this will give ICE agents real terror.
Is there a sniper with rounds on the roof?
Whether accumulated evidence at this point indicates high degree of pre-attack planning.
Very important.
This was a copycat attack on the basis of the Charlie Kirk assassination.
Something that we suspected at the time.
Joining us now to comment live is Trisha McLaughlin, uh, assistant secretary at the Department of Homeland Security.
Let's rock and roll.
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Let's rock and roll.
benny johnson
you you you A horrifying new revelation, Trisha.
Uh, the floor is yours.
Um, perhaps you knew this yesterday, but your reaction to this.
tricia mclaughlin
Benny, incredibly disturbing.
I mean, we saw those shell casings from those bullets with the anti-ICE messages.
So the motive was becoming increasingly clear.
And then to hear about the handwritten notes where he's wishing for terror and to bring terror to ICE agents, that this does look like it was directly inspired by your friend and um so many people's hero, Charlie Kirk.
Uh, his cold-blooded murder, the fact that this uh individual, this monstrous individual Began firing from a rooftop adjacent to our ICE facility in Dallas.
He was showering bullets down at ICE vehicles, which had the three detainees in the vehicles.
That is where they were shot.
One, of course, uh is now deceased, and two of which are in critical condition.
And we do pray for those individuals and for their families.
And we pray for our law enforcement Benu.
There's a another press conference happening later today in Dallas at 1.30 p.m.
So I think we'll we'll get some more information, some more footage will come out of this.
But as we learn more and more about this murder, um, I think that the public, the motivation will be incredibly clear.
benny johnson
Yes.
Okay, so we have the bullet casings from yesterday.
You can see them here.
Uh it says anti-ICE on the actual shell casings.
It doesn't leave much to the imagination there for what the intention was.
However, there is a pretty loud uh vocal minority of conspiracy theorists on the left that believe that either your department wrote that on the bullets or is trying to manipulate this in order to come after them.
And I'd like to get your response to that.
Um conspiracy theory.
tricia mclaughlin
It's disgusting.
And it's also just giving an excuse to a lunatic and to these politicians who are cranking up the rhetoric and putting our law enforcement in danger.
I've also seen a similar conspiracies online that this individual was targeting those detainees.
As I mentioned before, more footage is going to be coming out to show that the detainees were in these ice vehicles, but that the shooter wouldn't have been able to see that anyone was in that vehicle because of the tinted uh glass windows as well.
He was just spraying indiscriminately these law enforcement buildings.
I'm sure some of your viewers saw the images come out yesterday.
These are processing facilities.
These are not detention centers.
This is where uh individuals come in.
These are law enforcement comes in to process people to work day in and day out.
And I mean, let's look at the politicians, their rhetoric, Benny.
We've been saying since the start of this administration that our law enforcement was seeing an unprecedented rise in assaults against them.
Just this weekend, we saw Gavin Newsom and his team uh give a very menacing, threatening uh post about Secretary Noam.
And then just an hour later, he unveils this unconstitutional law to ban our law enforcement from wearing masks to protect themselves from monsters like this and to be able to hide themselves so that their uh families are not doxxed online where their spouses work, where their children go to school.
That is being put out on the dark web so that these criminals and these monsters can go after them.
Kevin Newsom, uh, Karen Bass, the Chicago mayor, Brandon Johnson, AOC, Mayor Wu, you name it, have all liken law enforcement to the Gestapo, to the Nazis, even Jasmine Crockett.
I'm sure you've covered this before, her likening them to a slave patrol.
When you invoke this kind of rhetoric, you can expect that some crazy lunatic like this guy is going to take matters into their own hands.
benny johnson
And then there is a protection mechanism.
And this is what made me so enraged after they killed my friend.
tricia mclaughlin
Yeah.
benny johnson
There is a protection mechanism where the likes of Jimmy Kimmel say this.
Not only can you go and kill Charlie Kirk, a generational leader of the MAGA movement, but we will blame MAGA for that killing instead of you and your transgender furry boyfriend and all the left-wing iconography that you are leaving.
I mean, the killers are literally screaming from the rooftops that I am of the left.
And this is, of course, in the vein of so many other instances of left-wing violence over just the past 30 days.
It's hard to really count them all.
We will.
But this is the particular sin of Jimmy Kimmel, which is that they are using taxpayer-funded FCC licensured networks in order to cover for these murders, Tricia.
This is the thing that I find uh indefensible, but also uh morally indefensible, is that they're saying we'll protect you.
If you're a left-winger and you go out and you target a Trump supporter, we'll not only protect you by not talking about the left and blaming our side, we will blame MAGA for it.
And you saw this incident actually repeated yesterday, where when a left-winger writes anti-ICE messaging on their bullets, There's a huge consortium of left-wing voices that say it's actually you.
It's it's Homeland Security.
Doctoring evidence.
They're blaming the Trump administration for their own violence.
And I don't mean to monologue here, but it's what makes me insane right now, because you can't solve a problem if you can't be honest about it.
You can't unite over a lie, and you can't unite with people who want you dead.
tricia mclaughlin
No, absolutely, it's reprehensible.
They're creating excuses for these lunatics.
And this was going to happen time and time again.
And Benny, I guarantee after this press conference, and when we're finding out more information on this maniac, as you said, this Marxist likely, uh, that the left wing is going to stop covering this because I think that they were primarily covering law this violence against our law enforcement because they did think that the target was detainees.
And I think that we're gonna have to force feed them, we're gonna have to force them to cover this, because if not, they won't.
And we're gonna continue to see bloodshed in this country.
benny johnson
So then, I mean, it is interesting.
The Facebook profile of the shooter was found almost instantly yesterday.
unidentified
Yeah.
benny johnson
And it included like a Soviet hammer and sickle and a uh and Soviet iconography and messaging.
Do you have any further information on who this individual was and what the political motivations are?
It seems to be, I mean, staring us right in the face that this is a radicalized communist.
His family has obviously left-wing views.
You can find the profiles of his other family members, long rap sheets and so on.
Uh, here's the Facebook profile.
Again, Marxist iconography.
Is this a is this a con is this a Marxist attack?
Is this an Antifa attack?
Like, what is this?
tricia mclaughlin
I think that's something we're certainly looking into with Homeland Security investigators as well as with the FBI.
I don't want to get too far ahead of them as this is an active and ongoing investigation, but more and more evidence is coming out, and this is increasingly looking like uh political violence, despite what we're hearing from the mainstream media.
We've heard uh CNN uh castigating uh vice president Vance, they're saying he's getting way too ahead of it by blaming political rhetoric.
They're saying that this isn't political violence.
Well, of course, those uh those bullet casings tell a story themselves, and that this is not an individual who's supportive of our law enforcement when not only do you take the time to etch on these bullets, anti-ICE messaging, you go and spray and shoot out an ICE facility.
benny johnson
Trisha, I'm tired of this happening.
And I'm sure you are too.
You knew Charlie.
Uh, you obviously know President Trump very well.
He also took a bullet to the head.
Uh, these are attacks, these attacks on ICE are happening constantly, including at the same Dallas facility where there were a dozen Antifa members that were rounded up for a coordinated attack.
This is just one of it must be hundreds of attacks now on ICE agents or ICE facilities throughout the land.
Uh, that comes on the heels of, of course, also a transgender shooting in Minneapolis targeted children praying in church.
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Yeah.
benny johnson
So it's becoming quite obvious that there is a massive trend here.
We actually happened to, we just have handy data printed out here about left-wing violence versus uh what is considered right wing violence, uh, if properly adjudicated and classified, and there really isn't any comparison.
So, given the fact that you are in the Department of Homeland Security, uh, at what point or what must happen for our homeland to be secure against left-wing extremist terroristic violence?
tricia mclaughlin
Benny, it's a good question.
And what I do fear for the public, for the American public, is that people are becoming numb to this violence.
How was it just over a year ago that we saw a former president and a top congress uh president presidential candidate be shot?
And this is still going on.
Charlie, just a week ago, just two weeks ago almost.
Um, I guess two weeks to the day.
And this is just what's next?
What can you imagine, Benny, knowing your words directly contribute to violence, contribute to bloodshed and continuing to say them?
When do you people look in the mirror and say, enough's enough?
I'm not going to just be saying off the wall things for uh fundraising dollars or for viral clicks or to get the next MSNBC hit that there's something more to humanity than this.
benny johnson
Okay, you're right about the words.
Um, and I uh that's gonna be some, you know, someone's soul searching, right?
And I guess we could have that conversation.
Uh, you know, I know that you all yourself are a believer, and I think there's a real spiritual element to this.
unidentified
Yeah.
benny johnson
But there's also Romans 13, which is that the uh properly instituted Christian government wields the sword for the terror of evil men.
And what are we gonna see from this administration when it comes to uh ensuring that these left-wing terror networks, either from a funding perspective, which I think is critically important, yeah, or from an organizing perspective, uh, that the kind of resources that are uh constantly deployed against somebody wearing a red MAGA hat, right, that just wants to wave an American flag, that those resources perhaps are deployed uh instead against those who are threatening the lives and taking the lives of generational leaders like Charlie Kirk.
tricia mclaughlin
You're absolutely correct.
And I think that this administration has a lot of work to do uh in this space.
I think we need to be working with the Department of Justice.
I know Secretary Gnome is doing just that, and we also need to work with Congress.
How can we be preventing uh this kind of thing from ever happening again?
And we haven't gotten to that answer.
I mean, what something that Charlie was he he saw this coming.
I remember the last show I was on with him.
Brandon Johnson was again likening uh our law enforcement to the Gestapo to the Nazis and virtually encouraging violence against them.
And Charlie said, when is enough enough?
You guys gotta press charges against him.
And that's something I think Secretary Gnome uh he texted her that.
She's spoken about that before.
Uh and this is something that this administration is taking seriously, and we we gotta get answers on.
benny johnson
Yeah.
Okay, so that's very interesting.
Charlie obviously leading uh leaving us with some pretty important messaging.
Stephen Miller, who I know of course works very closely with your department, uh said that the last thing that Charlie told him was we must get left-wing violence under control.
tricia mclaughlin
Yeah.
benny johnson
Um so it's uh, you know, obviously an uh obviously a uh a final message uh after left-wing violence then took Charlie's life.
And then after that, that they they just after that, they just there wasn't a time of pausing and reflecting.
There was just further violence.
There was a bomb placed on a Fox News van, there was an ABC news station that was shot up by a far leftist.
More leftists were arrested for desecrating Charlie Kirk memorials and assaulting people who are at vigils.
And hundreds of thousands of leftists celebrated Charlie Kirk's murder online.
Um I mean, it's some real, it's a real crisis.
It's a real darkness versus light crisis.
tricia mclaughlin
It really is.
And I do have to point out as well what's happening with these riots across sanctuary cities across the country, whether it be Los Angeles, Portman, excuse me, Portland or Chicago, we're seeing law enforcement being hurt there.
We just saw out of Chicago a law enforcement officer is in severe condition after an illegal alien tried to evade arrest and he was being dragged through the streets of Chicago.
It's disturbing what's going on.
And I think that something that's also important is we don't let it slow us down.
We don't let it deter us.
Uh we have 151,000 applications to join ICE law enforcement.
That's the despite the danger, that's despite the smears of the left.
And we're gonna keep going.
We're gonna hire more ICE law enforcement, we're gonna flood the zone, and we're gonna make America's uh community safer, as President Trump, his mandate was the American people's mandate, and exactly what Charlie would have wanted.
benny johnson
Yes, that is precisely correct.
Uh, do you view this as like organized Bolshevik violence?
Do you view this as some type of like neo-Marxist violence that is organized throughout the nation?
tricia mclaughlin
We do, and we're seeing these protests or really these riots are increasingly uh highly organized, people are being busted, not even from the state or city of that jurisdiction.
benny johnson
Wow.
We'd love to see an attack on the funding mechanisms for this because these people don't have jobs, they don't have the capacity to do this themselves.
That's right.
These are this is being professionally organized, and that's how you actually cripple the organization.
Um, so you talked about recruitment numbers.
You've had ICE has without a doubt the best recruitment campaigns and some of the best viral campaigns uh of all time.
The Pokemon campaign was really something uh that dropped this week.
If we if we could just do a ch tone change here, uh it's been really spectacular.
Um but uh, you know, what I I gotta say, my favorite was Theo Vaughn uh and the, you know, heard you got deported, dude.
Bah then Theodore Vaughn didn't like it.
Um which is crazy.
So, like, you know, what's up with that?
tricia mclaughlin
I haven't talked to Theo about it specifically or personally.
So I know he didn't like it.
It's gotten quite a bit of coverage, but this is what we need to be doing, whether it be Pokemon or Theo Vaughn, we need to be engaging with young people and people who are disaffiliated from politics.
Don't watch the news.
Don't watch CNN.
Don't regularly uh talk about politics.
We need to be reaching out to them directly where they are, and so that they're getting our message.
They know what we're doing.
They're not believing the lies they constantly hear about ice, but they're actually seeing who we're getting off these streets.
And that's why we did the Pokemon is uh, I mean, list out.
I mean, it's child predators, uh, MS-13 gang members, uh, murders really horrendous individuals that we've gotten off of America's streets who have just been walking around with impunity for the last year under President Biden.
benny johnson
So a message in closing here to those on the left, and obviously you're doing God's work with deep porting so many of these criminals.
Um, but those on the left who seem to be actively organizing uh now confirmed copycat attacks uh on you and your agents.
And how will you stop this?
Because no one else wants to see, nobody wants to see more of this.
Uh, what is your message to that extremist, Marxist, left-wing uh uh uh terroristic organization uh that continues these attacks?
tricia mclaughlin
We won't stop.
We won't be deterred.
We will find you and you will be arrested, and we will prosecute you to the fullest extent of the law.
I mean, it's it's unacceptable.
This political violence in the culture in this country asked it has to stop.
And this this administration under President Trump, we're gonna find a solution.
The American people can rest assured of that.
benny johnson
Yeah.
Antifa being designated as a terrorist organization is a good first start.
I'm sure that means a lot of extra work for you, um, but a good first start.
tricia mclaughlin
It's an honor to do it.
unidentified
It is.
benny johnson
Wonderful to hear it.
Uh Trisha McLaughlin is obviously the uh one that you should follow here.
She's got nearly a hundred thousand subscribers and God family country, right up there in the top of the bio, and that's exactly where we should be.
Are you ready to cowboy up?
She says here on X. And I gotta tell you what, man, that is exactly what Trisha's done at DHS.
And it's an honor to have you, Tricia.
tricia mclaughlin
It's an honor to join you.
Thank you, Benny.
God bless you.
unidentified
Godspeed.
benny johnson
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Uh, We are very proud to have back on to the program, a man who represents uh the fine state of Florida, the panhandle, where actually I just was uh before everything just went whew crazy this month.
I long to be back there, a simpler place and a beautiful place.
Jimmy Patronis, Congressman, live on the show now.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you.
you you you Thank you.
benny johnson
Congressman, thank you so much uh for coming back on the program and also uh for your work trying to unstuck uh Congress.
I know you haven't been up there long.
What have you learned in your short time in DC?
jimmy patronis
You know, Benny, thanks for having me.
One one thing that I've learned that I've told people when they ask that exact same question, which kind of disarms them, is about how nice the people are in the process.
And they get shocked because of how caustic some of this.
Now, look, we've got some terrorists in the process.
There's no no two ways about it.
But you know, the Mike Johnsons of the world, these guys are working their tails off for the right reasons, you know, and just like what we're dealing with right now, passing a clean CR, no garbage on it, trying to keep the government funded, keeping our military paid, keeping our government still working operationally, and it's become to this holy mess by the Democrats want to add a trillion dollars more in expenditures.
And so I mean, there's still some some real uh partisan lines drawn in the sand, but you know, for the most part, you pick up the phone, you call the White House with a constituent issue, whether it be VA issues, you name it, Army Corps, they respond.
They fix problems.
And this is what government's supposed to do.
We're supposed to serve, and we're supposed to make things easier for the public that we represent.
So come and join it.
And um, you know, there's a lot of good people up here that are serving that love their country.
benny johnson
I uh really uh appreciate that you said that because there's uh uh been a stunning spate of terror terroristic violence in our country, and since it has affected, well, our friends and also our Christian community and uh uh and our law enforcement community.
I know that's a very big thing in your district.
Um this is something that I want Congress to take very seriously.
And we would really like to see some real effort put in to addressing this.
But so many other members of Congress seem to not only not be able to talk about the problem effectively, but not even be able to name it by calling it what it is, which is radicalized neo-Marxist left-wing violence uh exclusively upon on the left.
A chart for the day is right here, uh breakdown of Democrat violence versus uh what would be considered right wing violence.
Um what is Congress like?
Is anybody have any motivation in Congress to actually fix this, uh, investigate it, uh fund potentially uh in order to ensure that this gets pro that these kind of networks get properly disrupted uh and or uh prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law?
jimmy patronis
Absolutely.
So earlier today, you know, our VR is has signed it yet.
The president is gonna do a executive order basically identifying uh at Antifa as a terrorist organization and starting to target those that fund it.
Um and so where at least the ball gets rolling out of the administration, then Congress has the ability to go and file these bills to go and codify these.
Um, but it is what it is.
We've literally got a one-seat majority in the House of Representatives.
Um you almost really don't have a three-seat majority in the Senate where you've had JD Vance had to come in multiple times to break votes because you you have you know members of our party that will just dig in and will just fight against anything that makes any common sense.
It's unfortunate.
So I mean, there's a lot of hand holding, and like I said, the patience of Mike Johnson through all this has just been amazing.
How hard he works to get these across the finish line.
And and I tell people, Jimmy Patronas is not a show horse, he's a workhorse, and we've got real threats out there that really have to be addressed.
And when you see, you know, our own law enforcement being targeted, uh that that breaks my heart in the actions of this radicalized left.
Um it's it's scary.
It's real, uh, And it's something we can't take lightly and we have to address it.
You're 100% accurate.
benny johnson
Yeah, good.
I mean, it's I like I just don't know how many times the president, you know, a bullet has to hit the president in the head, which is what happened just a year ago, right?
Like I don't know how long, how much more is this gonna have to happen?
You know, how much more blood's gonna have to be spilled until we actually like do takes very seriously uh how your friends on the other side of the aisle, as they're so called, uh are caught are are not only not only just ignoring this, which is uh in and of itself a major problem, but voting against this.
Fifty-eight different Democrats voted against disavowing violence.
That's a that's a scary prospect.
jimmy patronis
Well, and and and so you take back the the Pennsylvania attempt on the president's life.
I mean, that was an assassination.
Other people died, and it seems like it's still taken so lightly because the the president was only by hand and God is even alive to be here today with us to win the election to save our country.
But other people died through the actions of that assailant.
I mean, it's uh that that's a reality that seems like it's totally been forgotten and been and just dismissed.
benny johnson
Yes, that's right.
Well, we're doing our very best to hold accountable at least our medium uh in the media and in the online space, but uh yeah, it's a work in progress.
We appreciate your work, Congressman.
Uh, and we're proud to have you on the program.
We will be doing a big event at the University of Florida.
I don't know if you're a graduate of the University of Florida or Florida State.
jimmy patronis
I'm gonna know my wife.
benny johnson
Oh, okay.
All right.
jimmy patronis
We've got a mixed marriage.
benny johnson
So here's the here it is.
Here's the uh here's I think this I I assume that's your wife there in the photo with you.
jimmy patronis
Maybe in the middle.
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
Well, she's a gator.
She'll be proud to know that we're gonna do a uh massive event uh with Turning Point and the University of Florida campus.
We're organizing that right now.
We're gonna have a bunch of members of uh the Florida delegation uh and various Florida players joining in order to make sure that the state is cemented for free speech.
So we hope that you'll join us uh I hope so.
jimmy patronis
You know, I loved on your feed how you took your son with you to Charlie's tribute, and you know, taking your family everywhere you go and making sure they experience life with you.
Uh I'm I'm I'm glad you did that.
He won't appreciate it until he gets a little bit older and gets to reflect on those moments that you've given him an opportunity to witness.
And uh anyway, good dad.
Oh, there it is.
benny johnson
Oh, uh he'll appreciate probably when he's older the uh the Elon, the Celon conversation.
jimmy patronis
I mean, you're getting me emotional right now because I mean I uh my boys the other day, you know, they asked me, Jimmy, why why did you run for Congress?
I said, you know, I got I got kids I'm fighting for, you know, and uh and you know for to see the experience and memories we're making as a family, but also making a difference, trying to save our country.
Uh it's worth the sacrifice.
benny johnson
This is the only uh baby, as far as I know that has been fought over by the Secretary of War versus the Secretary of National Intelligence, the director of national intelligence.
jimmy patronis
Yeah.
benny johnson
And so that's a you know, you got a bright future there, right?
Yeah, you had a bright, you got a bright future.
Uh Tulsi wouldn't give them up.
Tulsi was like, nope.
jimmy patronis
Well, I'm curious.
Is that is that your first child?
benny johnson
No, this is number four.
jimmy patronis
Okay, number one.
I thought you had more than one.
I just love to ask mom and dads who are obviously with their first child.
I'll ask them I said, and you need to do this because you'll see an expression that you'll it'll nourish your soul.
You should ask that those young parents, did you ever think you'd love something so much?
And you'll see this expression come with over the face because they realize they did not know what type of love this was until they had a child.
And uh my wife, it drives her crazy because I walk up to total strangers and ask them that question.
But it's just such a feeling of good that uh that I appreciate and I like to make sure they reflect on how special building a family is.
benny johnson
We got uh we got four.
unidentified
It is these are the four babies, these are the four babies right there.
benny johnson
That's in your death photos taken in your district.
unidentified
So yeah.
benny johnson
Oh, yeah.
Next time, Congressman, uh, and until next time, everybody follow uh the great Congressman Jimmy Patronis, and uh hopefully we'll see you uh at at Florida, uh, University of Florida.
Where we the date is yet to be announced, but we're gonna do, yeah, it's gonna be a great Florida event for turning point.
jimmy patronis
Sounds great.
Great to be with you, brother.
Take care.
benny johnson
Godspeed.
unidentified
Godspeed.
benny johnson
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All right, ladies and gentlemen.
That was a uh that was a banger of a show.
We will be live on Will Cain's program uh here in just a few minutes.
So actually, we are right up against our uh heart out, so we gotta jump.
Uh we have some major announcements.
It's gonna be exciting today.
Stay tuned.
We're gonna be locking in.
Just gotta let you know.
Like you you all give us the power to fight back.
You know, I like that sucks to lose a friend, but it is exactly what Don Jr. told me at the floor of Charlie's Memorial.
No one can replace Charlie.
Don Jr. and Dan Bon Gino and I were talking, and they like with great intensity, Dan Bongino.
Nobody can replace Charlie.
We all go 10% harder, and we can bridge the gap.
We can fill the gap.
Okay, all of us.
And that's how we continue the mission.
So that's what we're gonna do on this program.
How can we do it?
Well, we lock in with our Lord and Savior with our faith, put on the full armor of God, Isaiah 117 for our verse of the day.
Learn to do right, seek justice, defend the oppressed, take up the cause of the fatherless, plead the case of the widow, seek justice.
Seek justice.
Yes, defend the widow.
Oof, boy.
It's like about I think about Erica.
We had just some beautiful moment with her.
And she just we've known her for a long time, and she just cried in our arms.
There's not really not much else to say.
God has been working through her and her life.
And that was it.
You just you didn't see Erica on stage.
What you saw was like the the pure energy of the divine, is what you saw when Erica was giving those speeches.
Two of the most important speeches ever given, I think.
Like back to back.
It's gonna be it's a remarkable moment.
It's gonna be um interesting to live through.
But we are not gonna be a passive in our contribution to it.
So I'm preparing all of you.
We're gonna be on the road.
We'll be at Marloga tomorrow.
We'll still have the morning show.
We'll still have the morning stream.
So tune in.
Uh, we have a great show tomorrow.
Uh, and we have some big announcements later today.
As always, it is our honor to fight alongside of you.
And remember, in the end, we win.
It's your boy Penny.
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