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Sept. 24, 2025 - The Benny Show - Benny Johnson
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BREAKING: Left-Wing Terrorist Attack at ICE Facility, Sniper Opens Fire | Kimmel Sobs in Non-Apology
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charlie kirk
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tricia mclaughlin
00:52
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todd piro
Jimmy Kimmel live, returning to ABC last night with the host getting emotional during his monologue, insisting he never intended to downplay Charlie Kirk's assassination.
jimmy kimmel
It was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man.
unidentified
I don't think there's anything funny about it.
jimmy kimmel
I posted a message on Instagram of the Dave's killed sending love to his family and asking for compassion.
And I meant it.
I still do.
Nor was it my intention to blame any specific group for the actions of what it was obviously a deeply disturbed individual.
This show is not important.
What is important is that we get to live in a country that allows us to have a show like this.
carley shimkus
Kimmel's show was suspended by Disney last Wednesday, but despite Kimmel's return, some ABC affiliates owned by Sinclair Broadcasting Group and Nextstar Media Group are still preempting the show.
And Jimmy Kimmel went on to thank Stephen Colbert, John Stewart, Clay Travis, Senator Ted Cruz, for supporting him during his suspension.
He said that he thanks the people who support a show, but most of all, thanks the people who don't support a show, but support his right to have one.
So I think if you weren't expecting an apology or any reflection from Jimmy Kimmel, you may be pleasantly surprised by that.
todd piro
Yeah, and I think to your point, it was better than I thought it would be.
I think the real proof is going to come out when the ratings come out to see how well received this was by the American people.
I mean, I think for a lot of people say in New York and L.A., the ratings could be high.
Those liberal bastions have to remember it's off TV in a lot of middle of the country stations, Sinclair stations, Nexstar stations.
So it'll be curious to see.
And what happens from here?
Does this end this?
Does Jimmy Kimmel's rhetoric change, or is it gonna be the same going forward?
carley shimkus
Uh he celebrated it or you know, made a joke about it.
So maybe this could be a learning lesson for him as well.
jimmy kimmel
But I do want to make something clear because it's important to me as a human, and that is uh you understand that it was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man.
unidentified
Damn, that boy is good.
good and terrible.
jimmy kimmel
Good and terrible.
unidentified
You Thank you.
benny johnson
Jerry, you can't have me laughing in times like this.
We have a lot of breaking news, a lot of serious news to talk about, and we are so happy to be back.
My hair is crazy.
We are so happy to be back.
We're just letting it rip.
Man, we're just letting it rip.
There's too much going on in the world right now.
I'm proud.
I'm like I'm like so happy to be back with you here in the studio.
We've been gone for what feels like almost a week.
I think it's a close to a week.
We left last Thursday.
And um, yeah, it's good to be home.
I miss this audience.
I love this audience.
We want to make you proud.
We want to make Charlie's legacy and memory proud.
So we went out and we wholly and commit completely committed to that.
I even had my pastor come out so that I could be like just come just totally locked in and uh ready to honor Charlie and given the opportunity that you have, you just get a couple of minutes to talk, but um, you know, three minutes actually total uh to talk.
Uh just have an opportunity to like use it as an uh chance for God to to to speak through you for the Holy Spirit to work, and that's what you saw in every single speaker, actually.
with Charlie, I gotta tell you, man, I knew that guy really well.
He would have been so proud of that moment.
And he is so proud.
He's smiling down from heaven.
And he saw sat there and watched Donald Trump and Donald Trump Jr.
Both talking about Christ Jesus, the most powerful men in the entire administration in the whole world walking the face of the earth.
Men and women stand up there and profess their faith.
And what is the single largest apostolic event in human history?
Hundreds of millions of people seeing that.
Who knows how many thousands of souls saved?
What an honor to be part of it.
And we just wanted to make everyone proud and uh defend our friend.
That's it.
We just wanted to defend our friend.
So that's it.
Yeah, you know, and we're back, and we got a chance to like talk with a lot of people.
You know, everyone from Bon Gino to RFK to Secretary of War to Tulsi.
They we're all sitting with them, you know, and I got to lock in, and we got some really exciting things going.
We are not going to let the energy slip.
We have a ton to cover today on the show.
There's so much breaking news.
There's a horrible new left-wing terrorist attack.
We are going to dispatch forever the hoax of this both sidesism bull.
It's total and complete BS.
Like, try not to try not to curse, try not to care.
Swear, like, get like get your language under control.
Be under control, but may I man it makes my blood boil.
And that's what Jimmy Kimmel did last night.
Jimmy Troll Kimmel tried to pull the whole both sides of them thing again.
Man, it makes me upset, especially after the incredible revival style spiritual awakening that we witnessed this weekend.
And what is again in Charlie's memory, the single largest apostolic event in human history.
Call it what it is.
What a profound legacy that man leaves.
Again, ladies and gentlemen, we will carry forward and do in our own small uh poor capacity.
Because no one can replace Charlie, but we could all do like 10% more.
This is what Dan Don Jr. tell told me.
And I think you know, it's because of travel, because of travel from Phoenix, and I don't have a private chat, right?
Like, because of travel from I fly commercial.
He doesn't act like we're just a normal dude living a normal life just like you.
Okay.
Um, and and I were there with our baby, right?
And I had to have my parents watch the kids, and that's just how that's life, you know, it's life.
So it's, you know, it's it's tough to get back and forth quickly, and we hosted Charlie's show on Monday.
And so anyway, I'm just I'm kind of like getting it all out there because I've I've missed this audience.
I've missed the studio, I've missed being able to connect with you.
Um junior and Dan Bon Gino both came up to me on the floor.
I haven't told the story.
I've told the story of Elon.
Elon told me, Elon told me, I was like, hey, man, it's uh shit, it's cool to see you with Trump.
And Elon's like, well, we will either hang together or we will surely all hang separately.
Boy, is that the case.
There's another deadly left-wing terrorist attack.
We'll get to that in just a second.
We also have, I think, some members from ICE uh from members, so some members from the administration or former DHS secretary that will be joining our program to talk about it.
And so we pray for the people who've been shot at an ICE facility by an active sniper.
An active sniper situation that I I believe is under control now.
unidentified
I hear there's four casualties.
benny johnson
Dan Bongino and Don Jr. come up to me.
And we just we all know each other.
Um seen each other in person in a long time, frankly, because Dan Bon Gino like lives and works inside of this, you know, locked skiff in the FBI.
Nobody really sees Dan Bongino anymore.
He's got important work to do.
And they come up to me, and we're having a chat.
And Bonjino, in his like very serious, like extremely locked-in like eyes bulging out of his head way, right?
Like bloodshot eyes like this.
Dan Bongino says catching Charlie's killer was the single proudest moment of my life because I know what we have to do next.
He says, what we have to do next.
unidentified
Is we all gotta step up.
benny johnson
There ain't no replacing Charlie, says Bon Gino to me and Don Jr.
There ain't no replacing Charlie.
But if everyone does 10% more, if all of us combine our energy just a little more, then we can fill the gap.
We can bridge the gap.
unidentified
I was like, man, that's true.
benny johnson
And so expect us to be on the road a little more.
And expect some big things, big announcements.
Expect this program to be taking you kind of the way that we always have.
Yeah, Klein, I get it.
Taking you like uh kind of how we always have with us on this extraordinary journey where we all save America together.
So believe that.
We are gonna lock in.
We're gonna rip roar, and it's gonna be a wild ride.
It's good to be back.
Today's Wednesday, September 24th, 2025.
Sniper, clearly a left-wing sniper.
I'm just gonna go there.
Oh, you know, how dare you?
You don't know the motive yet.
Oh, really?
A sniper open fire, a nice facility.
And then turn the gun on himself when law enforcement approached him.
Okay, got it.
Apparently, there are four fatalities here.
Another, another incidence of deadly left-wing violence.
How long will we allow this to happen?
Anyway, that's breaking right now.
Jimmy Kimmel refuses to apologize for lying about Charlie Kirk's assassin.
We will not give him any passes.
His crocodile tears mean nothing to us.
And I'll tell you why.
And we're also going to shame those on our side who defended Jimmy Kimmel.
The grotesque weaklings.
You little children, stand aside.
Sit down.
Let the men actually work.
The people who knew Charlie had the right instincts.
The people who didn't know Charlie or trying to grift off Charlie and his memory.
Yeah, those people are the ones who immediately turned on Trump and immediately apologized to Jimmy Kimmel.
Okay.
Like those are the one, those are the people you gotta watch out for, and we're gonna go in today.
Okay.
Stephen Colbert drags out Gavin Newsom to threaten ice agents and to paint a target on ice facilities, and then no less than eight hours later, an ice facility is shot up.
We're gonna play you that clip.
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Okay.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, just jump over to this because I've been, you know, I've I've become the unofficial spokesperson.
I've become the unofficial spokesperson against both sides of them.
Uh breaking Dallas ICE facility, three people shot in active shooter situation.
That's not correct, ALX.
I think it's four, right?
Let's let's get let's let's make sure that we are up and running.
Um, and then tell me if Chad Wolf.
Obviously, the uh we're we're working right now to book um someone from DHS or from ICE.
Uh this is a this is a ongoing situation uh according to reports.
The shooter has turned the firearm on themselves.
Chad Wolf is booked.
Okay, fantastic.
Thank you.
Wonderful.
Chad Wolf, former DHS secretary, will be joining the program here in just a few minutes, okay, to talk about this.
All right, let's go.
Let's read the top line here and then ALX, make sure I have all of the uh most up-to-date information.
unidentified
four?
benny johnson
Is it four fatalities now?
unidentified
All right, ladies and gentlemen, uh let's read.
benny johnson
Here we go.
Uh breaking death toll in Dallas ICE facility shooting rises to four, DHS spokesperson says.
Crazed sniper gunned down.
Do we need to say crazed?
Can we just say left wing at this point?
Crazed sniper gunned down three immigrants as they were being led into an ICE facility in process early Wednesday.
Monstrous attack on a knife identified gunman at a rooftop.
Agents led unidentified gunmen shot from a rooftop as agents led into the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Office before 7 a.m. local time.
Just a month after there was a bomb threat at the exact same facility, Homeland Security spokesperson Trisha McLaughlin told Fox News.
There are three fatalities, uh potentially potential detainees.
So wait a second.
So the gunmen shot potential.
They shot the criminal aliens.
Goodness gracious.
Okay, so what do we have here?
Active shooter situation, Dallas ICE facility on Wednesday morning left three detainees in ICE custody shot, multiple victims in critical condition, according to police.
So there are differing reports as to whether there are three or four fatalities.
According to police sources, the suspect was a sniper on roof, armed with rival.
The shooter identified police as a white man uh died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head as agents approached.
A crazed sniper shot at least three immigrants, two fatally.
The unidentified gunman, again, shot from a rooftop.
Uh, this is just a month after a bomb threat at the same facility.
Three fatalities.
Uh the dead did not include law enforcement, but there are other injuries, some in critical condition.
It's monstrous.
The shooter opened fired while the detainees were being transferred, and uh porticles to the facility was open.
The shooter identified as a white male, was found dead on a rooftop nearby on an immigration attorney's office from a self-inflicted gunshot wound as agents were clear closing in.
So, of course, a coward to the end.
Uh it isn't clear if other shooters were involved in the attack.
Homeland Security Secretary Chris you know, says there have been multiple injuries and there have also been fatalities.
Let's go ahead and read what the uh DHS Secretary says, and then we will have the former DHS secretary under President Trump, Chad Wolf joining our show.
Shooting this morning at Dallas ICE field office.
Details are still emerging, but we can confirm that there were multiple injuries and fatalities.
The shooter is deceased by a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
We don't know the motive yet.
Uh, we know that our ICE law enforcement is facing unprecedented violence against them and I want to stop.
Pray for the victims and their families.
Well, you know, if there's a dude who's opening fire on federal agents with President Trump in charge with the single largest deportation apparatus in history, and with Gavin Newsom painting a target on their back yesterday.
Where's that clip?
We got that clip.
Yeah.
Here's what Gavin Newsom had to say yesterday.
Gavin Usum says, uh, oh, hey, you know, like ICE, we should effectively just go ahead and attack ICE because they're all like they're all Nazis, they're all fascists, they're all authoritarians.
This is like incitement to violence.
Here we go.
gavin newsom
That's happening in the United States of America.
Massed men jumping out of unmarked cars, people disappearing, no due process, no oversight, zero accountability happening in the United States of America today.
People ask, well, is authoritarianism you're being hyperbolic?
We're being hyperbolic.
If you're a black and brown community, it's here in this country.
And so I I'm deeply proud that I had the privilege of signing the nation's first bill to address the issue of masking.
Also to require you have simple identification to your point.
I mean, if some guy jumped out of an unmarked car in a van with a mask on, tried to grab me.
I mean, by definition, you're gonna push back.
And so this these are not just authoritarian tendencies, these authoritarian actions by an authoritarian government.
You saw what Stephen Miller said last week.
This should put chills up fine.
Called the Democratic Party, an extremist organization, basically a terrorist organization, saying he's going after his enemies.
You saw the tweet that Donald Trump sent out, true social, basically telling Pam Bondi, I want these three people taken out.
That's happening in the United States.
benny johnson
Authoritarian fascistic tendencies.
That's eight hours ago.
You know, at what point, like they haven't learned any lessons.
They've learned no lessons.
Charlie Kirk is dead due to left-wing violence.
Due to left-wing rhetoric, due to the endless, ceaseless, truly bottomless pit of pejoratives, slanders, and libels against conservatives, and of well, the forgiveness of left-wing acts like this of terror.
I'm going to make it my life's mission to make them eat it.
The left wing is the single greatest threat to freedom and security in our nation.
In our modern history, no terror group even comes close.
It is time to get real about this threat.
It is time to understand the sunken spiritual depravity of the left.
And we're going to get into it on the show.
Again, we have former Department of Homeland Security Secretary will be joining us in just a moment.
Here's the news.
And then also the spokesperson for DHS responding.
Let's go.
ainsley earhardt
Griff, we just heard from Todd Lyons.
He said, hi, we had shots fired into the Dallas ICE office specifically.
So into the ICE office, specifically into the Sally port, as you were saying, Griff, area where detainees are brought in.
Three people have been shot and in route to the hospital.
Reports are the shooter is down from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
Reports are all ICE employees are accounted for, still searching and securing the scene.
griff jenkins
Yeah, and Ainsley, Secretary Christy Noam, DHS Secretary is now responding on social media as well, saying that there was a shooting this morning at the Dallas ICE detention facility.
Details are still emerging, but we can confirm there were multiple injuries and fatalities.
That's new and troubling.
The shooter is deceased by a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
She says, while we don't know the motive yet, we know that our ICE law enforcement is facing unprecedented violence against them.
It must stop, she adds, please pray for the victims and their families.
lawrence jones
And Griff, you and Griff, you know the threat level is very high right now for ICE.
There was a bust done also in Texas of a group of individuals of the train.
benny johnson
Ladies and gentlemen, I want to get to DHS and their spokesperson, Trisha McLaughlin, who we know personally and who's wonderful, and who says that she will be able to join our program in a bit, right?
She they have to sort quite a few things out right now at DHS.
Patricia was on with Fox uh moments ago, uh giving an update here.
She is again the official spokesperson for the Department of Homeland Security.
Let's listen.
tricia mclaughlin
We believe that he was uh shooting at law enforcement and the detainees from an apartment building.
Again, those details are still murky.
It looked like it might have been a sniper or some sort of a uh long form shot.
Uh but as soon as we have more information, we will give that out.
But we do ask the American public, please join us in praying for the victims for our law enforcement.
You know, we've been saying for months that the rhetoric around our law enforcement, particularly ICE, the dehumanization, the demonization has spun so far out of control, and that someone is going to get hurt or someone's going to get killed.
And we hope that's not today.
At this uh Dallas Ice Field Office, we actually had a uh bomb threat there, a viable bomb threat.
So we know that there has been uh really out of control rhetoric and threats against them.
And uh please join us in praying.
benny johnson
Trish uh out of control threats and rhetoric.
Ladies and gentlemen, we are going to show you some of those threats.
We are going to prove right now, demonstrably before the former secretary of the Department of Homeland Security joins us, Chad Wolf.
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Want to show you a chart.
Here's a chart.
This is from the FBI.
This is uh combined violence rates by party.
Jimmy Kimmel last night.
This jack wagon decided to do the whole both sides thing.
Chris Cuomo decided to pull the whole both sides thing on me.
Less than 12 hours after my friend was shot by a radicalized left-wing Frantifa member, furry boyfriend.
Who's allegedly gone missing?
They're trying to run it on right now that says that violence is something that happens on both sides.
No, it's not.
No, it's not.
Let me give you a little bit of data here.
Just some just a couple of things off the top line.
After President Trump was shot in the head, only 30% of Democrats said that he's deserved sympathy.
60% of Democrats said President Trump deserved it.
That's the hard data.
It's right there.
Danny, ALX, make sure you're hitting Klein with this data.
60% of Democrats said Donald Trump deserved to be shot in the head.
Try not to yell.
But boy, it makes my blood boil.
I will not allow, I will be the I will personally dispatch from the earth, insulted the earth with these lies, that violence is a both sides issue.
Close to a third.
One out of every three Democrats.
One out of every three Democrats say that political violence is acceptable.
Political violence.
One out of three, ladies and gentlemen.
According to the Cognition Research Institute, the left has totally normalized violence.
55%, a clear majority of the left, say that it is justified to kill Trump.
Forty-eight percent of the left say it is justified to kill Elon Musk.
57% of the left say it would be justified to destroy a Tesla dealership and don't care if someone is harmed in the process.
Political violence.
If you break it down since 1975, political violence leading to death.
Somebody who is defined as right wing versus left wing.
What's it look like since 1975?
1975.
I mean, that was quite a while ago, right?
There have been a thousand and eighty-one different left-wing political attacks leading to death.
Right wing, as we and we understand exactly how utterly loosely defined right wing is and how manipulated these terms can be.
Right wing 300.
So you are more than three times more likely to be killed by a left winger than a right winger.
Nobody ever argued that there's no such thing as violence on the right.
Okay?
I'm not arguing that.
I'm not saying that it has never existed.
I'm saying that in our current landscape and in the current time vectors in our nation, that it is an exclusively left-wing problem.
In the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's murder, we the right, who is the aggrieved party attacked by the left, Charlie Kirk, killed by a leftist.
Let's go ahead and describe what happened.
Well, the right got together in mass and prayed, mourned, and went to church.
That's what the right did.
The left decided to commit further terrorist acts.
Including, I guess, this ice shooting that just happened with multiple fatalities.
Wait and see, wait and see.
Okay, we'll wait and see.
Let's talk through what we know.
A nice facility was just shot up.
There are reportedly three or four fatalities by a sniper on the roof, who then cowardly in a cowardly act, turned the gun on himself.
We'll see who this individual is.
I won't hold my breath.
This of course happened just hours after Gavin Newsom said that all ICE agents are domestic terrorists.
That they that ICE President Trump and DHS are authoritarian tyrants, thus, again, painting a target on their back.
That happened, that is happening this hour.
All right.
But let's just go back through the last week or so, since Charlie Kirk's murder.
We the right are an aggrieved party.
We, the right, are the ones who lost a generational voice, a future president, and our biggest influencer.
100,000 members of the right just gathered in person in Phoenix.
I was there.
I spoke.
I was wandering the arena all day long.
I must have met a thousand, five thousand people personally.
I was backstage.
I was all over the place.
No threats of violence.
No windows broken, no cop cars burned, no police attacks, no fist thrown, no fights at all.
The left, In the immediate aftermath of Charlie's murder.
Well, a left-wing pederist named George Zinn decided to put his arms up and say, I'm I'm the shooter, thus allowing the shooter to actually escape.
He had a bunch of.
He had a bunch of.
I don't even like saying the word.
He had a bunch of uh uh peterist illegal pederist material on his phone, it turns out.
So he committed multiple felonies there.
This is just your remember Kyle Rittenhouse.
Like Kyle Kyle Ritten.
The quality of people at the BLM rallies uh never see, you know.
Go ahead and look them up and go look up their criminal records and you see there's a real problem on the left.
But let's continue.
Days after that, in Utah, hours after that in Utah, two Democrats, registered voter Democrats, placed a bomb on a local Fox News affiliate's fan.
Uh dozens of other leftists have been arrested and charged with assault and desecration for attacking Charlie Kirk vigils and memorials.
Tens of thousands of leftists have lost their jobs because they celebrated Charlie Kirk's murder, including Jimmy Kimmel, who miraculously appeared back on TV last night in order to do what?
Not apologize.
He blamed MAGA for Charlie, he blamed MAGA for Charlie Kirk's murder.
He lied on Charlie Kirk, blames the movement that Charlie Kirk was the figurehead of for Charlie's murder, doesn't apologize for that, doesn't talk about left-wing violence, of which he is one of the main instigators through his propaganda channel, Total and complete dehumanization.
unidentified
Total and complete.
benny johnson
58 House Democrats voted against disavowing all violence.
58 House Democrats then took to the floor to slander, malignant libel Charlie Kirk.
Democrats were more upset that Jimmy Kimmel got a paid vacation to chill out with his kids, than that Charlie Kirk will never see his children again.
Democrats were more outraged that Jimmy Kimmel got put in a timeout where he had full freedom of speech.
He could have tweeted, he could have posted, he could have stood on the street corner and yelled and said anything, then that Charlie Kirk will never speak again.
There is a sickness in this party.
It is a spiritual sickness.
And it's time for us to accept it.
With full eyes, open eyes, and understanding of the demons that we actually face.
You cannot unify with people that want you dead.
And you cannot unify over a lie.
So I refuse to have any conversation with anyone who will not admit that the violence, according to all available data, and the blood pouring into the streets currently and actively that the violence is a left-wing problem.
And a left-wing problem exclusively in our modern day.
Oh, okay, when was the um when was the last deadly right wing attack exactly?
Why don't you tell me that?
They don't know.
They don't know.
They can't tell you.
Because there hadn't been one.
They'll point to what happened in Minnesota.
Lance Bulletur was an appointee of Tim Walls.
He said that Tim Wallace told him to go commit murder.
Lance Bolzer is out of his flipping mind.
Nobody really knows.
He had a bunch of no Kings flyers in the back of his car.
That's what they're gonna point to.
It's so easy, it's so easily debunked, it's so easily unhoaxed.
So like get get smart, lock in with the data, and be ready to defend against this.
Is what Jimmy Kimmel did last night.
Oh, it's a both sides issue.
No, it's not fight.
Back.
All right, ladies and gentlemen.
Uh, here we go.
Chad Wolf is ready to rock.
He is the former DHS secretary.
He joins us live now.
I'm proud to have him.
unidentified
Let's go.
benny johnson
Hi, uh, Chad, how are you?
Um, so sorry that uh the agency that you led is suffering in this manner this morning.
Perhaps you have some insights for us.
Um, the floor is yours.
chad wolf
Yeah, well, thanks for having me on.
Obviously, it's another ICE shooting, it's another shooting in a nice facility.
We've seen this time and time again.
There was actually a shooting previously in Texas, right?
So now this is the second one that we see here.
We have them in Portland, we have them across the country.
Because I think to your point earlier, Benny, the left continues to demonize law enforcement and specifically ICE, and I think it it it motivates some of their supporters to do some some crazy crazy things.
Uh and we see this playing out in real time.
Now, in this instance, uh I don't think the motive is is known yet, but I mean, if you just look at the pattern that we see over the past several months uh since President Trump came back into uh into office, we see what we know what this is.
We know what this feels like to us.
Um, and ICE officers are experiencing this.
This is this is real for them.
This isn't anything they see on TV.
This is something that they have to deal with day in and day out, knowing that when they go to work, they may not see their loved ones again.
Uh, and this is real.
And so when you talk about, and and you just mentioned when you have Tim Waltz, who is uh you know, a vice president candidate talk about how ICE is the Gestapo, modern day Gestapo.
Yes, or you have Governor Newsom, again a governor of a very big state, yes, passing a bill that is called uh the no secret police act.
Well, the secret police that that those are the Nazis, right?
And so that's the type of language that the left uses.
The right doesn't use this language, the left uses this language and they do it for a purpose, and they have some responsibility um to take for the all of this.
benny johnson
Yeah, I mean, at some point you're going to have to file incitement charges against someone.
Yeah, at some point, you can't just keep going around saying that these federal agents are all Nazis, physically attacking the federal agents yourselves if you're Lamonica McIver, which it's bewildering to me.
Chad, it's bewildering to me that like there hasn't been proper punishment for a member of Congress that physically attacked an ICE facility and was brawling and throwing punches at federal agents.
chad wolf
Look, you have to make an example of these folks.
And if they break the law, you hold them accountable.
Uh, and you have to make an example to say, look, we're not going to continue.
We're not going to continue this.
We see this all the time.
Members of Congress say, well, I can do and say anything.
I'm a member of Congress.
Well, you actually can't.
You can't impede justice.
You can't impede law enforcement.
That's a current certainly what she was doing at that facility there in New Jersey.
And we see this across the board.
And the Department of Justice needs to make an example out of them.
I know it's tough.
I know it's difficult.
I know, you know, they haven't done that in some time, arresting members of Congress, but if they break the law, they need to be held accountable.
Just like you and I or any other normal American.
If we did that, we'd be thrown in jail almost immediately.
Um, and so and I'm also, and I think you mentioned this.
I'm also tired of hearing this.
Well, you know, both sides have got to tone down the rhetoric, got to tone down the violence.
That's BS.
It's just all of the violence that we see here is from the left.
benny johnson
Yes.
chad wolf
And they know it.
Everyone knows it.
It's Antifa.
I mean, the president's designating Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization.
That's great, right?
The other the other shooting I mentioned earlier in North Texas was from the North Texas Antifa chapter, right?
The events that are playing out in Portland in real time, my guess is it's Antifa as well.
Like, this is all from the left, because the left is out of ideas, and and all they know to resort to is violence.
And they will say that they are the party of diversity.
And as long as you don't disagree with them, you're fine.
As soon as you disagree with them, they've had it.
And they they in many times, not all, but in many times, they do resort to this violence.
benny johnson
So what you have up on screen right now, oh Klein, you were so close, buddy.
What you have on the screen right now is the same facility that was attacked, and we have all the mugshots, pop them up.
Attacked by Antifa on July 4th.
It was the same Dallas facility.
So you have this like terror group that has now been designated.
I want to talk about this.
Like, how does this work exactly, President Trump designating Antifa terrorist organization?
Here are the faces of the Antifa terrorists straight out of central casting, is exactly what I thought they'd look like.
If you were to ask AI to come up with a bunch of Antifa mugshots, here they are.
They attacked the same facility.
So this facility has already been under attack by the radicalized militant terroristic left.
And so I think there's, you know, I think that what you're going to see today is quite clearly another series of left, you know, it's you don't even have to make a guess, right, about this facility being under attack by the militant left wing.
What's to be done here, Chad?
Like you and so you were so you were DHS secretary.
What does it mean to declare Antifa a terrorist organization?
What can the Trump administration do now?
chad wolf
Well, a couple of different things, uh, in addition to probably looking at what more they can do.
But what they what it does, and the Department of Justice has used this designation in the past.
So what it allows you to do is to arrest, let's say, you know, these individuals are uh Antifa related.
You arrest them on uh murder charges or attempted murder, arson, whatever, whatever the crime might be, and then you you lodge uh you know domestic terrorism, it allows you to enhance the penalties.
It allows for more investigative power.
It allows you to go beyond just a simple uh capital murder charge or attempted murder, whatever it might be.
So it allows you to do more, it allows the Department of Justice to enhance the sentencing as well.
So you're able to throw the book, sort of speak at them even more, even more so.
But look, getting back to your original point, again, this is what ICE deals with day in and day out.
And you have these irresponsible politicians and others saying that you shouldn't cooperate with them, that they're the secret police.
Just think about that.
They are declaring war on our law enforcement.
Yes, ICE is given a job by by members of Congress.
They they are given a job and they are fulfilling that job.
Now, under President Biden, they didn't do it, right?
Uh, obviously they didn't do it because they were directed not to do it.
But they are fulfilling the job that Congress gave them.
If these if these congressional members don't like it, then change the law.
Give them a different mission.
But until that time, do not demonize them because you have failed to do your job and change the law that you don't like.
Um, and so that's what really bothers me.
These folks are signing up to do a job.
And I'll just say, none of this is deterring them.
ICE applications to be ICE officers are through the roof.
benny johnson
Yeah.
chad wolf
Uh they're increasing.
So whatever the intent here is to try to stop ICE or somehow make them unpopular, it's having the opposite effect, probably, right?
Just like unfortunately Charlie Kirk's assassination is having the opposite effect.
More and more individuals, more and more law enforcement want to be a part of ICE because they know the mission is so righteous.
benny johnson
So speaking of an unrighteous mission, we have breaking news here from Sobic at Human Events.
Their reporter on the ground is being told that this is a young man born in 1996 that has an active anti-ICE social media history.
Uh, and that is a you know, left wing coded, uh, is what we are being told here from all available reporting.
We'll see what plays out, but obviously I know Jack very well and trust him, and his sources are uh really really rock solid on stuff like this.
So um so it seems like the motive is becoming quite clear.
I mean, to your point, actually, this is such a great point.
Like, so when IC wasn't doing their job or wasn't allowed to do their job, right, through the Biden administration, no, you weren't attacking ICE.
I wasn't coming out and saying like fight federal law enforcement.
No, there's never been a Republican that ever said that ever, actually.
Like, and if I know if a Republican ever came out and said, it is time for us to all rebel and fight against our uh federal law enforcement, right?
To like physically fight them, to call them all Nazis uh and fascists and Gestapo.
Uh if Republican were to come out and say that, like they'd they'd be they'd be dislike they'd be disavowed from the party.
chad wolf
Right.
benny johnson
Because that's just not like what like it makes My skin crawl just saying it, right?
Like it, it it's like that you can clearly you can disagree with the tactics.
Ice should be used as they're being used right now.
The FBI was weaponized.
But you don't, but but you don't sit there and say, let's go, let's all go fight and attack federal law enforcement agents.
Like that's an obscene thing to do.
You can disagree on policy and usage of law enforcement, uh, but never got does it get to this level.
It is again an exclusive rhetoric of the left.
chad wolf
Yeah.
Uh look, we're the party of law and order, and and I think we take that uh very, very uh, you know, uh responsible.
Um, that look, you can change the law and you can have law enforcement focus on different things.
But again, at the end of the day, they're there to protect Americans and protect communities and to do the right thing to protect our borders, right?
Between ICE and uh border patrol and others.
And so it's really, really important to give them our support, hold them accountable when they do wrong, and from time to time they will do wrong, right?
They're they're just like any other American here, right?
They go to j they go and do that job on a daily basis.
They get it right 99.9% of the time.
Um, but to simply demonize them because you don't like their mission, because you disagree with a policy that is being implemented by this administration in a law that's been passed by Congress.
You've decided if you're on the left that you don't like that.
And so instead of trying to change that to work through that democratic process, you're just gonna go out and call them all sorts of names and try to shame them into them not doing their job.
But instead, as I mentioned, you're just encouraging them because they see they see the left for what it is, and they're gonna continue to do their job, uh, I think in spades.
benny johnson
So just very quickly here, and maybe we can conclude with this, given your incredible history and also your current support, an active role in supporting DHS and federal law enforcement uh at America First, which is fantastic.
And uh, within your own uh organization, please put up the um uh Chad's X handle here so that we can uh and his bio.
Um fantastic shot, by the way.
It's like it's a great hero shot right there with the Coast Guard chopper.
It's gotta be a cool trip.
I'll have to do one of those one of these times.
Um talk us through what happens next.
Like, where should we go from here?
Because I gotta tell you, Chad, I've had a belly full of it.
I've had a belly full of like losing friends.
I've I'm sick of like having to cover Trump assassination uh trials like we did yesterday.
Like there's so much violence on the left.
Uh and uh, you know, and and and somebody has to like actually you know take it seriously because again, it's not stopping.
Jimmy Kimmel ain't apologizing, you know, and they they didn't.
Um Gavin Newsom is right back at it.
I think it was days, I think it was days after President Trump ate a bullet.
And Alax, you're gonna have to correct me here.
Someone was on national TV saying we gotta put a target on Trump and take him out.
Yeah, and it's like the this is the red, it's like somebody shoes it shows you who they are, believe them.
Um what must happen from a federal law enforcement and from a strategic perspective in order to finally rid ourselves of the ideology of left-wing terrorism taking root in our country.
chad wolf
Well, a couple of different thoughts.
One, I'll kind of back up, and I think it's it's doing exactly what you're doing now, Benny and others, which is continue to talk about this.
I think what the left wants us to do is to cower, wants us to slink away, wants us to not be as vocal.
And I think that's one thing that President Trump, you know, going all the way back to 15 or even 16 has really taught us, which is we have to fight back.
That the left does this, they do it very well, and and the conservative movement writ large historically hasn't done it well, and and we're starting to.
So you got to continue to speak out about these things.
But then the president's obviously uh weighted into this very, very specifically with the Antifa designation is a very big deal.
It is not small, just like the foreign terrorist organization designation of MS 13 and TDA and others is a very big deal.
He is signaling to his federal law enforcement, it's time to take these people seriously, investigate, understand their funding source, understand where they get their support, material support, and prosecute.
So he is he is telling them it's time to start focusing on it.
And then it obviously it translates to the Department of Justice, to the FBI, to DHS, to all the entities that have those those law enforcement officers in the field.
It's time to take this seriously.
But most importantly, is the follow-through is the prosecution and holding these people accountable and making a an example out of them.
It's it's critically important.
So all the crazy left wing, you know, 18, 17, 19 year olds see a bunch of people being thrown in prison for life or worse.
They may they may decide to, I'm gonna, I'm gonna modulate my behavior here a little bit.
benny johnson
Yes.
You must have a deterrence.
Otherwise, you're just gonna have broken windows.
Yeah, uh uh uh symptom throughout the entire nation.
And there's gonna be copycats like crazy.
I mean, we man, we've been warning about this.
Um, but it's great to have the messaging from the vice president.
It's great to have the messaging from Stephen Miller.
Stephen Miller, obviously, someone who was uh essential in America, the America First Policy Institute, where Chad Wolf is the executive vice president.
Here is the website, please, ladies and gentlemen.
AFPI does incredible work.
He also is uh the chair of AFPI's homeland security and immigration.
Uh maybe I maybe if just just one final question here.
Yeah, everyone says right wing terrorism.
There's like this, there's like this point, there's like this talking point that's like, oh, there's so much right wing terrorism.
White men are the most dangerous thing on our, you know, on earth in America.
Did you did you see that?
Is there any data to back that up?
Uh, Mr. Secretary.
chad wolf
Yeah, so this is a tough issue because historically the FBI has only really tracked, you know, white supremacy.
Like if you go back all the way to the 50s and the in the 40s and the 50s and 60s, right?
That's the only type of data they track.
So, what the left does, and they do it very well, is they'll say, well, according to FBI statistics, all the violence, all the political violence, domestic political violence we see is all coming from the right wing.
It's because they haven't tracked and the Antifa movement and all this left wing violence is relatively new, right?
We've seen this probably in the last eight or nine years.
It's relatively new historically.
And so I I would really like to see the Department of Justice actually start keeping better statistics, better tracking of all this.
And I think what you'll see is by far political violence, particularly in the last four or five years, is obviously coming from the left.
benny johnson
Yeah, we have a handy chart actually right here of combined violence rates by party throughout the country.
And it becomes really clear when you put it down in data.
Yeah, it'd be nice to see somebody with a little more muscular um with a little more bravery and data.
I know that you have plenty of that at America First Policy Institute.
Again, ladies and gentlemen, please follow Chad Wolf right here.
Uh, he's got 25,000 subscribers here on X. Let's make sure that we are rocking and rolling and fighting with the people who are fighting for us.
Um, and also have just badass photos like this.
Um, very cool.
Thank you.
Thank you so very much, Chart for being on.
chad wolf
Thanks guys.
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Um, we have a wonderful guest uh right now, who's our dear friend, somebody who has served his country, somebody who understands what authoritarianism, terrorism uh actually looks like because well, he's seen it up close.
He is our dear friend, member of Congress from Florida, Greg Steubin, who joins us live now.
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benny johnson
Uh thank you so much for joining us, Congressman.
Uh what the hell's going on with this?
I'm like, I I'm I'm the left-wing the response to Charlie Kirk's savage murder by a leftist with a trans furry boyfriend who, according to all of his family members, was a left-wing radical who hated Charlie Kirk, hated Donald Trump, hated free speech.
The response to that has been more left-wing terrorism.
There hasn't been an apology from Jimmy Kimmel.
There hasn't been a moment of like Democrats reconciling and saying, hold on, like this is a major problem in our party.
There's been no accepting of even the premise that this is an ex a left-wing problem.
That yes, here, here we have a we have a little chart.
I'm just gonna keep going to this chart.
Yes, you can point to some instances of violence on the right.
But it's like one out of every hundred for violence versus the left.
So, yes, you're gonna have to deal with the big problem first before you deal with the little problems.
There's been no there's been no moment on the left where this has happened, Congressman.
And that's the thing that bothers me the very most is how can you unify with people who want you dead?
How can you unify over a lie?
You cannot.
The floor is yours.
greg steube
Yeah, uh, we did a post on Twitter that took a picture of Charlie Kirk's funeral, and this is how Republicans react to having one of their people murdered, and then a picture of the reaction from the left in the George Floyd riots where they're destroying and burning entire cities down, and their justification is uh justice for George Floyd.
It is a very different reaction that Republicans have uh to tragedy than the left has to tragedy, and it goes back years.
I mean, I can remember when I first got elected to Congress.
Um, President Trump was president in his first term, but we lost the house.
Nancy Pelosi was speaker, and going through all of the impeachment BS that we had to go through, the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax, which we all know was completely made up by the left, made up by the deep state, all of that.
And Nancy Pelosi going on TV.
I remember it vividly, going on TV and calling Republican members of Congress like myself, Democratic or terrorists, domestic terrorists.
That's what she said.
And I think the exact quote was Republican members of Congress are domestic terrorists.
So you have the biggest, highest leaders of their party calling people like me who've served my country, who've actually fought for my country overseas and actually fought against terrorism.
benny johnson
Yes.
greg steube
Um, domestic terrorists.
And so that that nomenclature, these young people here at like the the shooter that murdered our friend Charlie Kirk, they hear these things and they believe these things and they think, oh, I have to act, and violence is okay.
And these calls to violence.
I mean, you you've heard it again and again and again, and words are powerful.
And when you hear people like AOC and Ilhan Omar and all these other people in the far progressive left justify violence, uh it emboldens the people on the left.
And you're right, that graph is very telling.
The picture I posted on Twitter is very telling.
Uh the left's reaction right now, because they lost the election, Trump is crushing it.
He's doing what the American people want him to do.
More Americans are getting behind President Trump's agenda since the election because they're seeing now our our streets are safer and our cities are safer, and uh illegals are getting in out of our country, and people aren't dying of fentanyl overdoses because we're stopping the fentanyl from coming into our country.
All these things that people in the middle of our country are realizing that wow, these policies are actually great.
So their only reaction to that is to try to use violence to scare people and incite fear.
And it's not gonna happen.
And I will say it's probably gonna continue for a period of time, but more and more of these people that either get responded to with violence in in in defending ourselves, like I'm sure the ice shooting today, I'm sure it, I mean, the reports I I saw says he took his own life.
So these are the cowards that we're dealing with that just want to inflict violence on people and then end their own lives.
Um, but I I think you're seeing the left's desperation of this is the only option we have because Trump is winning, Republicans are winning, the policies are winning, and the country's getting to a better place, and they don't know what else to do other than to result to violence.
benny johnson
We have heard that now, reportedly from human events that this individual, the shot up the ice facility had a bunch of anti-ICE sentiments, uh left-wing coded a young man who has once again like gone out as a sniper and attempted to take the lives of federal officers and agents.
This comes just hours after Tim Walls and Gavin Newsom, two men that want to be president, uh, defamed and slandered and painted a target on the back of federal agents by calling them gestapo, by calling them authoritarian tyrants.
greg steube
Yep.
benny johnson
Uh, you know, at what point, like what again, this is incitement.
You know, at the that level of demonization of law enforcement is incitement.
And it it I guess it's just carried, you know.
I guess members of Congress that serve with you can go punch ice agents and literally fight ice agents, and nothing will happen to them, like Lamonica MacIver.
greg steube
Yeah, we can't even get him removed from Congress for crying out loud.
I mean, yeah, the votes come.
We have you know three or four people on our side that vote with the Democrats, and you can't even remove these people off committees.
It's insane.
benny johnson
So first off, like Republicans have to get stronger on this.
So I got a couple of questions.
But one, how did Republicans actually like understand what time it is?
You know, there's plenty of people going there wanting like to Charlie Kirk's memorial.
You know, it's like there's plenty of people there, and I know a lot of them, and they're good and they have good hearts, but do they have the will to actually solve the problem that got Charlie Kirk killed?
greg steube
You know, that's the challenge that faces us.
We have probably 160 to 180 strong conservative members of Congress, but we need 218 people to get anything passed.
And you have a lot of Republicans that are in Democrat districts that are afraid of doing anything that would remotely compromise their ability to win a win re-election, and that is not the way you represent people.
Uh, if you're if you're moving to the left, you're making the conservatives and the Republicans that voted for you upset because why why am I voting for a Republican who's gonna vote like and act like a Democrat?
Uh, and it's I I mean, I've seen it in Florida where people have moved to the center and they've lost their primaries.
For some reason, it's not happening across the country.
And the the speaker and our leadership is so deathly afraid of putting seven to ten members of Congress in a tough position on on votes that are conservative votes because they claim that they're going to lose their re-elections.
And I would rather, I would rather pass all this great conservative policy, do the things that the president wants us to do, uh, because I think more and more people will come out and support for those policies, like we've seen all across the country.
I mean, the president won every swing state in this last election.
Uh, Uh it's it's like unheard of that that would happen.
And I think this movement is going to continue.
benny johnson
So you have served in war zones.
Here's photos of you in Iraq.
You have served in counterinsurgency, and you fought actual terrorist cells.
What needs to be done here for against domestic terrorists who have yet again this morning terrorized federal agents, attacked the federal government, shot at an ICE facility with the intention to kill, and as far as we know, right now, reportedly have taken the lives of three individuals at this facility.
What must happen now?
greg steube
Well, I think I think justice has to happen, but it has to happen fast.
I mean, people are sick and tired of like somebody trying to assassinate somebody or this shooter that killed our friend Charlie Kirk, and it'll be a year or two years before it even gets before a judge.
That it's it's that that's frustrating to people when justice takes that long to happen.
So in this particular incident, these attacks on ICE agents, I mean, the the laws already pretty clear.
If you if you attempt to murder uh a law enforcement officer, you can get capital punishment for that.
And this occurred in Texas.
I'm sure they have the capital penalty like we do in Florida, and the trial should happen quick.
It should justice should be served.
And maybe that would be a deterrent to some of these other people.
But here's the other piece of this, too, is the FBI and the DOJ need to do a deep dive into this person's network.
Because obviously, this is a group of people, like you mentioned that the last attack on this facility was a group of Antifa people.
I can guarantee you they're somehow linked into this.
So making this a conspiracy to kill law enforcement officers and being able to charge all of these people for these different crimes and put away the network that is supporting these type of activities, I think will go a really, really long way.
benny johnson
Wouldn't terrorism like have different courts?
I'm no lawyer, but isn't there wouldn't there be like a swifter or potential military process where you could have different courts if you are actively committing in an organized fashion terrorist terrorism acts against the U.S. federal government and its uh law enforcement agents?
greg steube
If it happened on a military base, you could go through the UCMJ.
But if it happens in like this this significant this incident, uh the state laws would apply and then federal laws would apply, and they could get charged in both jurisdictions.
They could get charged in the state court and charged in the federal court.
Now, state courts typically move a lot faster than the federal courts do.
Um, but there's nothing that would allow some type of terrorist court specific to that, unless it happened on a military base.
Now, overseas, uh the bad guys that we prosecuted, obviously a totally different scenario because that happened overseas.
But like the stuff that we're seeing here has to be prosecuted in the state courts and/or federal courts, depending on the crimes that were committed.
benny johnson
Even if they're part of a terrorist organization that's been designated as an you know, Antifa is a designated terrorist domestic terrorist organization.
greg steube
Yeah, but go after them under the conspiracy charges in the federal law.
I mean, those have huge penalties.
You can put these people away for a really long time.
And I think people think they can hide behind a keyboard and inciting violence, hide behind a keyboard and saying, and organizing these type of attacks on law enforcement officials, you start putting those people in handcuffs under a conspiracy to kill law enforcement officers charges.
Uh, and I think that will go a long way to one, deter people from that type of activity, and two, put bad people in prison where they belong.
benny johnson
Uh, final uh comment and question to you, Congressman, about Jimmy Kimmel and his non-apology last night.
Um, did that satisfy you and your righteous indignation uh for the Kirk family?
greg steube
No, of course it didn't.
He didn't apologize, and then he then he goes back to attacking the FCC and attacking Trump and all of that.
What's crazy is you have three times more followers on Twitter than this guy has that watches his show.
So that's that's the justice in that situation is people don't people don't want to listen to that.
People don't want to watch that except the far-left lunatics uh that support him.
And I did read that Nextar and some of these other cable companies are not going to continue to carry him, which is great.
Uh, so he's not going to have even that reach that he currently has on the late night show.
Look, what it's a balance protecting free speech.
Um, but obviously it uh obviously the things that he are saying should not allow him to be able to be on a cable network to say that type of stuff.
And what's interesting, it has nothing to do about free speech in this in the Kimmel incident.
It has nothing to do with free speech.
benny johnson
Not on a cable network.
Yeah, federally licensed, federally licensed broadcast network, terrestrial broadcast that is paid for by you and me and the taxpayers, Lavishly.
So like on a cable network, you'd have no grounds, but this is an FCC licensure.
You have porn laws.
You have swearing laws.
You have a dungeon decency laws.
You have violence laws.
You must be able to broadcast in the public interest.
I mean, I just like I just I want to make sure that everybody understands this is not like an MSNBC host.
This is not a Fox News host.
You have to the differences between ABC, NBC, and CBS are profound when it comes to FCC licensures.
And whenever you get in federal dollars, you know, Congressman, there are going to be strings attached.
And the strings are you can't lie in a non-joke.
It's not like he was telling a joke.
He was giving a news read.
You can't lie about the motive of a murder when federal authorities are saying this.
You're going to incite more violence.
And now we've seen it happen.
unidentified
Yep.
greg steube
You're absolutely right.
benny johnson
Forgive my forgive my interruption.
I just this has made my blood boil.
I just it's made my blood boil.
Nobody took away Jimmy Kimmel's free speech.
Nobody did nobody stopped him from like tweeting.
He didn't get banned from all social media like Donald Trump.
He didn't get ripped down from YouTube like we learned yesterday.
So many different creators did.
He didn't get like even his show canceled.
He could have stood on the street corner and yelled.
He could have tweeted, he could have posted, he couldn't have done anything.
He could have gone any show, gone on any show he wanted to.
Jimmy Kimmel's speech was never under threat ever.
He was he got a penalty.
He got put in timeout for being a dick and for lying.
And um, that's a totally fundamentally different thing.
Forgive me, but I just agree with you.
Our show was a uh major factor in fighting back against this, and I'm frustrated.
A weak uh not yourself, but other weak Republicans that like ran to Jimmy Kimmel's defense.
It makes me very angry.
greg steube
I'm with you.
benny johnson
Yeah.
We know you are, Congressman.
That's why we're a massive fan of yours.
Obviously, Charlie's team also not happy about this whole Jimmy Kimmel non-apology.
Everybody needs to follow the great Congressman right here.
He has 120,000 subscribers here on X. Make sure that you're fighting with the people who are fighting for us.
Uh Godspeed, Congressman, keep fighting con.
If we just had like a hundred more of you, I'm not into human cloning, but if we just had a hundred more of you, it'd be we'd be we'd be sad.
greg steube
I need 217 friends in Congress.
We could get a lot of great stuff done.
benny johnson
Thank you, Congressman.
greg steube
All right, see you.
unidentified
All right.
All right.
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So I just want to, and let's check in.
Senator Set, ready to rock.
Okay, Ron Johnson.
I want to talk to Ron Johnson about.
I mean, I know, I know that Ron Johnson has worked very closely with Turning Point, worked very closely with uh turning point activists and uh some of the, you know, had a sharp relationship with Charlie.
Uh and also is like obviously a massive free speech defender.
Um, but that is not what's at stake here with Jimmy Kimmel.
Jimmy Kimmel lied yesterday.
And before we get to the Senator, if you'll just allow me, I just have like 30 seconds the clip that I got that we gotta cover here because he's a straight up liar.
He is someone who is non-repentant about further painting a target on the back of MAGA, which is what he did.
So let me play you the original clip.
Here's the original clip of Jimmy Kimmel saying that MAGA is, and I'm quoting here, desperately trying to paint the victim as the the shooter, correction, the shooter here, as someone other than one of them.
He says it.
He says the shooter is MAGA.
There's only one way to interpret this.
Let's go.
jimmy kimmel
We had some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.
In between the finger pointing.
benny johnson
You heard it, I heard it, the world heard it.
Jimmy Kimmel got ripped off air because Disney said, You gonna apologize for this?
And Jimmy Kimmel's like, nah, man, screw him.
He is a repulsive individual.
Jimmy Kimmel has squeezed with joy and assisted in the p in the cancellation and destruction of many on the right.
And then la last night he had the temerity, the pure bloody cheek and hubris to come out and say he didn't do the thing that he just did on camera.
jimmy kimmel
Listen to this.
I've been hearing a lot about what I need to say and do tonight.
And the truth is, I don't think what I have to say is gonna make much of a difference.
If you like me, you like me.
If you don't, you don't.
I have no illusions about changing anyone's mind.
But I do want to make something clear because it's important to me as a human, and that is uh you understand that it was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man.
unidentified
Uh I don't I don't think there's anything funny about it.
jimmy kimmel
I I posted a message on Instagram on the day he's killed, sending love to his family and asking for compassion, and I meant it, and I still do.
Uh nor was it my intention to blame any specific group for the actions of what it was obviously a deeply disturbed individual.
That was really the opposite of the point I was trying to make.
But I understand that to some that felt either ill-timed or unclear, or maybe both.
And for those who think I did uh point a finger, I get why you're upset.
If the situation was reversed, there's a good chance I'd have felt the same way.
I have many friends and family members on the other side who I love and remain close to, even though we don't agree on politics at all.
I don't think the murderer who shot Charlie Kirk represents anyone.
This was a sick person who believed violence was a solution, and it isn't.
benny johnson
It okay.
You heard Jimmy Kimmel there lie.
Now he's a good actor.
He's acting, but he's lying.
I didn't try and blame anyone.
You literally did.
We just played the clips back to back.
What Jimmy Kimmel needed to do last night was to say, I'm sorry for blaming MAGA.
It's clearly left-wing violence.
We have a problem on our side.
I'm gonna work on my rhetoric.
I apologize to Erica Kirk.
I apologize to Charlie's orphaned children.
Who will never know his father?
And if there's any part that I played in dehumanizing the right, then I want to personally apologize.
That is the only message.
That is the only message.
So anyway, ladies and gentlemen, joining us now.
Uh somebody who I'm sure has quite an opinion on this is the uh great Senator Ron Johnson from Wisconsin, a place where Charlie spent a lot of time.
and, well, we want to give this editor a four right now.
you you you you Senator, thank you so much for being back on uh the program.
I know that you worked closely with Charlie and Turning Point USA.
I know that you've had Turning Point USA activists uh like Alex Clark uh in for committee hearings and so on.
Um, and so uh obviously what you want is you want a respectful and open dialogue uh about the problems in the country.
And you can't have that if people continually lie about what the problems are.
And the reality is that the preponderance of data shows that the left wing is violent and militant and are perfectly able to excuse violence against people they don't like and then commit violence.
Um how do we solve a problem like this, Senator?
ron johnson
Well, Benny, first let me start by offering my sincere condolences to you personally.
You know, we all experience loss with Charlie's assassination, but because you know him so well, your loss is just that much greater.
So I'm sincerely sorry for your personal loss.
Uh you know, from my standpoint, the way we battle these folks is with the truth.
Uh, you know, I just ignore Jimmy Kimmel.
I don't watch him.
Uh I think uh one of the you know Disney was probably taking advantage of the situation because his ratings are dropping uh to eventually cancel him because of that.
I think the same thing happened to Stephen Colbert.
So I I think that the the hopeful sign here is you have alternate media, you're part of it.
Uh the truth has its own power.
Uh the the lies are becoming so obvious from the left.
Uh as you say, you know, what we do what we do know is, for example, the left wants open borders.
They are completely opposed to President Trump closing the borders.
They are completely opposed to President Trump trying to deport uh the criminals.
They have incited violence against ICE, they've incited violence against conservatives in general.
Uh President Biden basically viewed half America as potential domestic terrorists.
They've targeted way more than Donald Trump in their law fair.
I mean, Chuck Grassley and I released the list of uh close to a hundred other conservative groups associated with Trump that were also targeted by a federal agency, weaponized federal agency.
So again, these things we all know.
Uh listen, it's going to continue to be frustrating because the legacy, the corporate media still has a lot of power, a lot of sway, and it is unbelievably galling and frustrating for us to listen to them tell those lies to be so smarmy about uh you know their positions on these things.
So again, I I share your frustration.
Obviously, nobody can outfrustrate me, but again, we we've we've got to be looking forward.
We we've got to listen to what Erica Kirk said.
You know, she she had she talked about what Christ talked about.
We we we don't respond to hate with hate, we respond to hate with love.
And I think that is the approach, and I think that is the winning approach.
It's the winning message.
It's not the easy message.
You know, you know this being a Christian is not easy, it's never been easy.
That's why you that's why we have martyrs.
And Charlie is a martyr.
I actually had a pastor on a telephone town hall that week, and I was just talking about Charlie and what I knew and the tragedy of his death.
And I referred to him as evangelist of two things of what made this country great, the principles, freedom, free speech, a free market system, and then of course, an evangelist for his faith.
And he died a martyr.
And I actually had a leftist pastor on saying he's no martyr.
Uh how can you deny that?
So again, the left will continue to deny the truth.
The left will continue to push lies, but we we do have the truth on our side, and we have to take solace in that, quite honestly.
benny johnson
That's fine.
I'll take solace in it when people stop dropping dead from assassin bullets that have left-wing iconography like written into them, and tell then that it actually is a Christian obligation for us, Senator, to wield the sword, especially those who have been placed in power like yourself, to wield the sword according to Romans 13, in order to uh inspire terror in evil men.
And that's what I'd really like for the federal government to do.
I'd like for the federal government to disrupt uh terrorist networks that are domesticated and left wing, and that is where and having an honest conversation about what the problem is, because you can't unite with people who want you dead, Senator.
You can't unite over a lie either.
There's no unity over lies.
The lie is that both sides commit violence.
That's the lie.
That's what they're trying to push.
That's what Jimmy Kimmel pushed last night.
It's time for like, I think Republican leaders to have a very honest and and muscular conversation about where the violence is coming from.
Uh say it, say it to their faces, and then do something about it.
ron johnson
Well, the first step In forgiveness is the person needs to ask for forgiveness.
benny johnson
Right.
ron johnson
I'm I'm more than willing to forgive people once they admit what they've done and they're asking forgiveness.
But just because you forgive somebody doesn't mean you don't punish them.
We have a judicial system that relies on punishment as a deterrent.
But but also for just in the sake of justice.
So again, I you know, forgiveness is one thing.
That's that's a spiritual thing.
But we are here in a secular world and we have crime and we have murder and we have assassinations, and those people committing those acts of violence, those acts of terror, those acts of evil, do also need to be punished.
Now, if they ask for forgiveness, sure.
I'm more than willing to forgive them, but that doesn't mean I won't punish them as well and support their punishment.
Yes.
benny johnson
So you've been working on uh I mean, you're one of the busiest men in the entire Senate.
Um just want to ask for a quick update on uh what's going on with oversight, Russia Gate, Obamagate, uh, FBI, some of the uh more important investigations that you're on that perhaps I don't even know off the top of my off the top of my head, but you're just one of the most dogged uh investigators that is trying to expose the corruption inside of our government, and at the very least, like shine a light on it.
And for that we are thankful.
Um can you just give us a brief update?
ron johnson
Well, first of all, understand how dependent Congress is on whistleblowers.
You know, the deep state is deep, is pervasive.
And no matter who is present, no matter who he appoints, like Cash Mattel, Pam Bondi in positions of authority, they don't know where all the documents are.
They know what's being they do not know what's being hidden from them.
So we truly do need whistleblowers.
And part of the problems that uh both Pam Bondi and Cash Patel are facing is you had a bunch of leftists that simply couldn't serve in the Trump administration.
They resigned, they had to terminate a bunch of partisans, and because of the lawfare against good people like Judge Trupus here in Wisconsin, who just represented the president of the United States in the alternate lecture uh case, they are destroying Judge Tropis.
And so it doesn't take very many people to be destroyed by the law fair from the left to make it make other people very reluctant to step up the plate and say, Yeah, I I want to serve this president for three years, but I also want to have a career after that, and I know how the left goes after us.
So again, it doesn't take a brutal dictator, very many people to hang in the public square before everybody kind of falls in line and just stays quiet.
And that's a big problem inside these agencies.
We don't know where the bodies are buried, we don't know where the documents are.
As much as Bobby Kennedy or Casper Teller, Pam Bonnie want to be transparent and provide this information to Congress.
We need whistleblowers inside those agencies who know where the documents are to come forward with those documents, like the whistleblower that came forward to and provide that information to Senator Grassley on the list of people that the Biden administration was targeting.
So again, it's a tough slog.
These investigations are not easy.
People who do wrong cover their tracks pretty effectively.
benny johnson
We have that investigation that you just mentioned up right now.
Grassley exposes uh Biden FBI for targeting 100 Republican groups, including Charlie Kirk, including Turning Point USA, including me.
And so I just thank you at the very least for exposing this.
ron johnson
Uh yeah, and then and you do it kind of one step at a time.
So here's one piece of the puzzle.
Now we have to find out what did they do to those individuals?
What kind of investigatory steps did they take?
How do they trample on the rights of those individuals?
I I thought, you know, turning point was interesting.
You know, anybody associated with Trump, the Republican Attorney General's association was also being targeted.
Again, this this is beyond the pale.
This this should, of course, if you had an honest legacy media, this would be a headline.
This is shocking to our democracy.
But again, you got the legacy media.
They're part of the problem.
They're they are the communication arm for the radical left Democrat Party.
So we just don't hear it other than on podcasts like this.
benny johnson
Well, you know, we have a lot more viewers than Jimmy Kimmel, so we'll take it.
Uh I'm not sure that's the bar that we should be trying to reach.
But you got to start somewhere.
Uh okay.
Well, thank you so much for your work on this.
I can tell you exactly what they did.
I mean, we would you would you like to do uh would you like to depose me right now, Senator?
They went after my social media, they targeted me.
My name is in all these documents.
You can see them from the FBI, MCIA, Twitter documents, Facebook documents, and so on.
They were constantly coming After our social media, constantly trying to take down my accounts with Charlie.
My name was constant was linked to Charlie in all of these documents, and they're trying to take all of us down.
They succeeded in demonetizing, threatening the accounts, like putting them putting us in the effectively purgatory, limiting all of our reach.
And then, of course, once they weren't able to take the accounts down, they resorted to more extreme means to try and take down Charlie.
And these demons, I guess their work is backfiring now, as this is the single largest apostolic event in human history was so the celebration of Charlie Kirk's life and memorial, and it will carry on.
But anyway, the point is that like the the there's the list.
It's yeah, it's real censorship.
And so I got no senator.
I got no empathy for the fake crocodile tears of Jimmy Kimmel crying about fake censorship when we are the victims of real literal fascistic federal censorship.
Um but I appreciate you and your committee investigating this.
ron johnson
Well, again, we're happy to take documents.
Again, Eric Schmidt's uh hit his lawsuit, uh, which revealed all these things in terms of how the Biden administration pressured these social media companies.
Again, that's another piece of the puzzle.
There are a lot more pieces of the puzzle that need to be assembled and obtained.
benny johnson
Yeah.
Well, thank you.
We've got a little piece of the puzzle here.
Uh apparently the bullets, Senator.
Uh, this is brand new breaking news.
The bullets that were fired fatally at an ice facility were engraved with anti-ICE messaging.
Where have we seen that before, Senator?
ron johnson
Uh, we saw it unfortunately just recently.
benny johnson
Yeah.
Seems like there's some type of connection.
Boy, it'd be nice for the federal government to get really serious about cracking down on left-wing violence.
ron johnson
Um, I think I think President Trump will be.
benny johnson
Yep.
You're one of the good ones, Senator.
We really appreciate your friendship and your friendship with the show.
Uh, everybody follow uh Senator Ron Johnson right here.
He's got nearly 700,000 followers.
We want to make sure that we're pouring in and fighting with the people who fight for us.
Uh, Godspeed, Senator.
unidentified
Godspeed.
you you you Thank you.
benny johnson
There was a press conference that just wrapped.
It was really short.
And our uh our team was monitoring it, of course.
And they rapped, and there was one incre a big news nugget.
I just talked about it with the senator.
Here it is, ladies and gentlemen.
joe rothrock
I can confirm at this time that the FBI is investigating this incident as an act of targeted violence.
It is unfortunately just the most recent example we've seen of targeted violence.
To include here in North Texas, we're back on July 4th.
We saw a coordinated attack carried out against an immigration detention center in Alvarado, Texas.
What I can also share with you is that early evidence that we've seen from uh rounds that were found near the suspected shooter contain messages that are anti-ICE in nature.
Again, this is just the most recent example of this type of attack.
This will be a whole of government response.
benny johnson
Yes.
joe rothrock
There will be no resource not utilized to bring all those individuals who are responsible to be uh to bring them to justice and to hold them accountable.
benny johnson
When are we gonna get serious, ladies and gentlemen?
When are we gonna get serious?
I have more to cover.
We have so much going on today.
I have my virtually empty mug here, my Trump mug.
Look at that, look at the size of this thing.
Size of my head.
We're not gonna we're not gonna rest.
We are under attack.
We're not gonna rest.
Like, I what like how much more can you put the live shot up?
Like a live shot of the actual ice facility, the actual uh crime scene here.
This from local Dallas News.
This is a helicopter above the ice facility right now where the shots rang out.
We're under attack.
Like, how how many more data points do you need to understand that this is gonna this is life or death because why?
Because you are fighting the principalities of evil, evil is losing, they are going to lash out violently.
They're going to attack.
They're going to kill.
The nature of Satan is what?
Steal, kill, destroy.
If you watch someone stealing, killing, and destroying, just like they did with Charlie's life.
Just like they tried to do with Trump's life.
They tried to steal his life, kill him, and then destroy, you know.
What he could do, what the work that they could do in this earth.
We are fighting a spiritual battle.
Ladies and gentlemen, you've got to have energy to fight the battle.
We have more news for you.
unidentified
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Ladies and gentlemen, I don't, you know.
I'm I have like I'm not gonna sit here and compliment Jimmy Kimmel.
I won't.
There is a moment, however, that I think is more complimentary of Erica Kirk than of Jimmy Kimmel.
However, it does speak to the power of Erica Kirk's actions at Charlie's memorial service.
And that is Erica Kirk forgiving the assassin of Charlie.
The left-wing assassin.
We've talked at length about this and about how this is this plus the plus Donald Trump and Stephen Miller going berserker mode on left-wing violence, how that is totally harmonious in the Christian worldview, and how you must forgive on a personal and spiritual level for your own mortal soul that will be judged before God as we all will be.
You will be held responsible for your actions and your actions alone.
But the federal government, the government that has been instituted and set up by God, uh, they don't have to forgive.
In fact, it is the obligation for the federal government to institute swift justice, and to ensure that evil men are terrorized and that good men are protected.
So what you saw demonstrated in Erica's forgiveness and President Trump's resolve are perfectly harmonious Christian doctrine.
It had a profound effect.
And so I'm not gonna sit here and like, I'm not gonna sit here and praise Jimmy Kimmel.
I'm just gonna use this as an example of how powerful Erica's actions were in the 40 seconds probably of Jimmy Kimmel's show that I like 100% agreed with him on.
Here it is.
jimmy kimmel
Over the weekend, a very beautiful moment.
I don't know if you saw this on Sunday.
Erica Kirk forgave the man who shot her husband.
She forgave him.
That is an example we should follow.
If you believe in the teachings of Jesus as I do, there it was.
That's that's it.
A selfless act of grace, forgiveness from a grieving widow.
unidentified
And it touches money.
jimmy kimmel
And if there's anything we should take from this tragedy to carry forward, I hope it can be that.
Uh, not this.
So thank you for listening.
And uh more to say.
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
Again.
You've heard what I think about the crocodile tears.
And I've um unloaded on Jimmy Kimmel.
Um critical, actually, in Jimmy Kimmel finally facing repercussions on this.
And I will just warn everyone of those on the right whose immediate instinct after Jimmy Kimmel suffered an actual consequence for the first time in his career for saying a grotesque and disgusting thing.
In a battle that they didn't have to fight, the battle was fought for them, the victory was gift wrapped for them.
There were those on the right who decided this was going to be my opportunity to protect Jimmy Kimmel and to attack Donald Trump.
If that is your instinct, then you are not operating in good faith.
Then you are, in fact, operating in the opposite of what Charlie Kirk would have wanted.
And we have that Charlie Kirk clip, right?
We have Charlie Kirk's talking about going on offense, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
Producers, this is the time.
Because those of us who worked with Charlie, and those of us who understand Charlie, understand that you must demonstrate cultural power.
You have to use cultural power when you get an opportunity.
You must be able to cause for your enemies and for those who are attacking you, a deterrent so that they do not attack you any longer.
This is the clip, ladies and gentlemen.
You're wondering why those who are close to Charlie Kirk had the immediate instinct, put it up, Klein, had the immediate instinct to deliver a culture war victory.
In this moment, to that our instinct was let's fight.
Jimmy Kimmel said something indefensible.
Let's rub their faces in it.
Let's grab the back of ABC's head and the back of Disney's head.
Let's shove their nose in it.
Let's make them defend the indefensible.
Let's contact the broadcast partners who have who are forced to broadcast these lies to their MAGA audiences.
To their Charlie Kirk fan audiences.
Let's look at legal and proper oversight from the FCC of these broadcast licensures that give Jimmy Kimmel such a big platform and 16 million dollars a year.
Let's have it a real conversation and take real action, not just yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, on the internet.
All these yappers, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
I fight culture wars.
I'm such a fighter.
Okay, until it actually comes to a real victory, a culture war victory that is gift-wrapped by the work and effort of other people placed in the right's lap, and then we get attacked for it.
Disgusting behavior.
And then they attack the Trump administration for it.
Sickening behavior.
I disavow it.
I'll call it out.
I'll debate it on the show all day.
What we did here with Jimmy Kimmel by making him get on his knees and grovel and cry and beg for his show back, suffering simply a consequence for being an inhuman dick.
A consequence, which by the way, Charlie's closest friends and allies, like the executive producer of this show, is out saying all morning, like this is not enough.
You can't just sit here and both sides this garbage.
You need to apologize for blaming MAGA for Charlie's death.
That's what you did.
It wasn't a joke.
You were inspiring more violence against MAGA.
And now here's the bullets, ladies and gentlemen, just in case you're wondering.
Here's the bullets.
We haven't seen the bullets.
It's interesting how we haven't seen the bullets from Charlie's assassin.
But here they are this morning.
Anti-ICE.
They're one of the bullet casings right there with anti-ICE scrawled on it.
unidentified
Hmm.
benny johnson
You know, their motive is a mystery, right?
The Biden DOJ would say.
We may never know.
CNN saying right now, we may never know the motive of the killer.
Yeah.
It's time to get real about these things.
It's time to not like get mealy-mouthed, be little good doggies, get a pat on the head from Jimmy Kimmel.
When we allow him to continue to like slander MAGA.
And it's time to understand like what Charlie taught us.
You should look at the instincts of the people who are closest to Charlie.
I think we have a uh clip of Colvet from this morning.
Saying, um, no, we're not gonna like Colvette was very very close with Charlie.
In fact, the first time I ever met Charlie, which was like a decade ago, Colvet was there, you know, by his side.
Uh Colvette was his executive producer on a show.
And he's saying, um, not enough.
Here we go.
andrew colvett
Like Jimmy Kimmel says that the shooter was of Charlie was MAGA.
What he's really saying is that it's okay to lie about conservatives, that their lives don't matter, that the his agenda, his political agenda and cultural agenda is more important than the life of my friend who was just taken from us and robbed from us.
And you see this with Maggione, you see this with Charlie Kirk.
Now you see it with this ICE facility.
It's not okay.
And when people like Jimmy Kimmel skirt the truth when they refuse to take accountability for their actions, then that sends a signal that there's a whole institutional machinery apparatus that's prepared to defend these evildoers.
And that's not okay.
What we need is I'm sorry.
Yes, I lied.
Yes, I was wrong.
Yes, and I won't do it again.
And I my apologies to the Kirk family and Erica Kirk.
gavin newsom
So Andrew understands.
andrew colvett
And that would have been contrition.
gavin newsom
Yeah, apologize for interrupting you.
benny johnson
I just want to get this on in case we that's that rings like a bell.
Rings like a bell.
But there was instinct on our side.
There was instinct on our side to use Charlie Kirk's to use Jimmy Kimmel lying about Charlie Kirk's death to and and Jimmy Kimmel finally suffering a consequence to attack Trump.
Let me show you, let me let me show you.
Let me show you why.
Those who actually knew Charlie, worked with Charlie, built with Charlie, had the immediate visceral animalistic instinct to go on offense and to say, nope, you have crossed the line.
Here's a clip of Charlie Kirk.
This is a clip just a few months before Charlie Kirk was murdered by a leftist.
This was uh before the 2024 election, but not too far before it.
And it's Charlie Kirk talking about what makes him different.
But he goes on offense.
Listen to this.
charlie kirk
We're living through a moment where this is the most consequential historical climax, like since the American Civil War.
That's not BS, that's not spin.
Yeah, it this is even bit, yeah.
This is I mean, like 1776 Tea Party.
andrew colvett
Yeah, yeah.
charlie kirk
Yeah, and it's so it's like it's a question, right?
And I have no idea if we're gonna win or not.
Um, so yeah, you have a thought.
unidentified
Why don't we go on the offense?
charlie kirk
We're trying, man.
Why don't that's a good question?
benny johnson
I I like what you're you're the only one that I see.
charlie kirk
Well, I it's because I thank you.
And I seriously, I I'm not the only one.
Um, but let me let me tell you why.
By the grace of God, I am not in federal prison.
By the grace of God, I'm not indicted.
It's not a joke.
That's what these people do.
unidentified
Okay.
charlie kirk
Well, I look, you're right.
And I pray for me every day and pray, and you should, because there's only a few of us that actually play offense.
Yes, plays offense.
But what happened?
unidentified
Yeah, what happened?
Yeah.
charlie kirk
They removed him from his organization.
He's under criminal investigation by the FBI and the Westchester D.A. Steve Bannon plays offense.
He's gonna go to federal prison next month.
Tucker Carlson plays offense.
They took him off air.
Any player that plays Donald Trump plays offense.
He's facing 600 years in federal prison.
That's why we don't play offense.
How about this?
We have 18.
I'm sorry, 16.
Literally amazing senior citizens that have done such good for our country in Michigan, that are facing the rest of their life in prison because they signed a document to become an alternate elector.
To become an alternate elector.
Most people don't even know about this story.
This story was buried.
I'm gonna talk about this tonight.
These are 16 senior citizens.
Um I'll tell you about Rose Rook, 81 years old from Pawpaw, Michigan.
She signed a piece of paper to become an alternate elector.
Her constitutional right with historical precedent.
She's facing 120 years in federal prison.
81 years old, she has 30,000 dollars to her name, and her husband died 10 years ago.
And the Michigan AG is trying to show her as a domestic terrorist.
She can't defend herself.
The whole weight of the world is it the cruelty is the point.
We are dealing with savages.
This is not normal.
This ultra-revolution time.
Like they are eating the country from within.
benny johnson
There you go.
charlie kirk
The problem is they preempt us against offense, but that is not an excuse.
We all have to play offense.
We have to take the initiative.
But here's the thing.
We are not good offensive players.
I'll prove it to you.
That's absolutely true.
Because conservatives definitionally are defensive.
We are conserving against their offense, right?
So, like, but by our temperament is to build businesses and churches and be agreeable.
Our temperament, we don't think like revolutionaries.
Well, we gotta change that.
benny johnson
Nice.
charlie kirk
I know.
But but it's not half.
My next book is literally called right wing revolution.
Like I'm trying to make people think in a way where we're we're trying to stop their re-founding of America.
Here's the good news.
If you want like the good news of all this, the founders have given us this unbelievable opportunity.
The fact that we still have some semblance of a constitution gives us hope.
Like if we did not have the founders, God bless them.
Like, just I'll give you an example.
The electoral college.
If it was not for the electoral college, this is game step match.
We're done.
Now we have a chance, right?
A collection of states, some it's still gonna be very hard, right?
But there's still hope, is what I'm saying.
benny johnson
Hopefully, willing to fight, ready to fight.
Ready to go on offense.
Ready to talk about how we must go on offense against the left's cultural revolution that we are now witnessing taking place, blood in the streets against Charlie.
Against now, Ice Agent, here we go.
Suspect Joshua John.
Joshua Yan murdered two immigrants and killed himself with anti-ICE iconography bullets.
Left-wing violence is a national emergency.
We can't even go a week anymore without multiple left-wing terror attacks.
The entire force of the federal government must be used to ruthlessly subdue and crush this terrorist threat.
This cannot continue.
We cannot live this way.
This is Matt Walsh.
There it is.
I don't know.
I don't want to put up a mugshot until ALX sees it.
But yep.
They got it.
Officially, another left-wing terrorist attack.
Anti-ICE.
Don't put it up until ALX approves.
I don't know.
We don't want to put the wrong mugshot up.
Just something that it's just bad, bad energy if you do that.
So there it is.
And for every Republican that's like, like, treat me like a doggy, like pet me and give me a treat.
Give me a tree.
Look, I'll be nice to you.
We'll never do anything mean.
Imagine if it was the other side.
We don't have to imagine.
Trump's shot in the head.
Members of Congress were shot by the dozens practicing baseball.
Charlie Shot and killed.
President Trump's would-be assassin was just found guilty yesterday.
I just want to cover this.
Would-be assassin trying to stab himself in the neck and kill himself as the verdict was read.
Found guilty, five federal charges.
Could you imagine if the roles were reversed?
Could you imagine if the left used censorship?
Government censorship to try and take right wingers off the air.
Yeah, we can imagine it because it literally happened to us.
It literally happened to ALX who's in these documents.
They went after ALX's account, and his account was deleted.
The hubris of these people at Twitter at the time, these like right wing people.
I won't name them.
I probably will in one of these shows.
These right wing people that were at Twitter at the time that were lying that were openly lying to me about ALX.
Our executive producer.
Stop the time for that.
We don't have time.
We're going on Tim Poole's show in like a few minutes.
So this is what happened, though.
He tried to Ryan Ralph tried to stab himself in the neck.
Dude, people are demons, man.
They're just demons.
Here's the uh court.
Here's the court sketch of it.
Goodness gracious.
Dude was a Biden voter.
You can see the Biden sticker.
Here you go.
He did like sitting sitting there walking around with a Biden sticker.
On the back of this truck.
It's a Biden voter.
He's all the donations he sent the Democrats.
But you don't hear anything about it.
Guy tried to murder Donald Trump a couple times, actually.
Tried to use Ukrainian weapons to do it.
Found guilty as hell.
Try to stab himself in the neck.
Little demon.
And uh what?
Any coverage?
Nothing?
Interesting.
Jimmy Kimmel just saying, oh, it's a both sides for shoe.
No, it's not.
And it's time to go on offense.
It is.
You want to do it?
You you you want to understand why Charlie was so effective?
That's why.
He didn't just gripe and yap on the internet all day and then surrender.
He actually thought through critically and tactically how to how to wield power, how to use power, and how to be effective.
So getting Jimmy Kimmel pulled off air, getting Jimmy Kimmel to get down on his knees and grovel for his job is one of the uh career highlights of my life.
If you even knew everything that's gone on behind the scenes, like, oh man, it's great.
We're going to carry forward.
We're going to carry that mantle uh as best we can for our friend Charlie.
I just want to defend my friend.
I just want to defend my friend.
And I sadly I gotta defend him against the right as well as the left.
But don't worry.
We got a strong back.
You know what I mean?
We're gonna do it.
We got God on our side.
What do I mean by that?
Um, well, we just Christ center our lives.
Charlie taught us how.
We just Christ-center our lives, get rid of the distractions, be simple Christians, read our Bible, and believe it.
We read it every single day.
Here's your verse of the day.
Ephesians 4, 26.
In your anger, do not sin.
Do not let the sun go down when you are angry.
Do not give the devil a foothold.
I mean, when it comes to my mortal soul, you gotta, you gotta forgive.
I find it very hard.
I don't know how Erica does it.
I don't I don't know.
My wife was like.
My wife was like, nah, that's you know, like uh somebody, if something bad happened to you, I'm not forgiving.
That's what my wife said.
I've not tried to put nurse kid on blast, but I'm like, you know, all of us are thinking that, right?
Like, how do you find it within you to do that?
Erica Kirk gave two of the most important and impactful speeches I've ever heard in my life, and she gave it back to back.
unidentified
I don't know how she did it, man.
Whew.
benny johnson
We were able to hug Erica backstage and chill chill with her and like mourn with her and cry with her a bit.
Turning points in great hands, man.
She is uh this is like it's crazy.
It's just you know what I told her?
I told Erica, I'm like, it wasn't you.
It was clearly the spirit of God speaking, and because no human being could do it.
What you did was spiritual.
Everybody saw it.
It would like ceased to be you, and I've known Erica for years.
I've known Erica for years.
And you know, I love them both dearly.
I have so many fond memories of her and Charlie together, and we'd go to these events, we'd go speak at these events and start these clubs or build these things, and Erica was constantly with Charlie, and it was like these were like really fun times.
And um, man, it was like it was something ma it was something not magical, literally spiritual.
So cool.
So that's why we do our verse of the day.
Because with uh man, you know, nothing is possible with God, everything is possible.
So do not give the devil a foothold.
Do not let the sun go down on your anger.
Um, but no, that it is the federal government's job to wield the sword and to establish uh peace for good men in our land.
And we're gonna keep pushing for that.
Uh, we'll do it with you.
We thank you.
Uh, this morning, and we're back, baby.
Big announcements tomorrow.
A lot of big announcements tomorrow.
Get ready.
Um, exciting times.
God is uh God is with us, and we will win.
It's more Benny.
unidentified
See ya.
jimmy kimmel
And that is uh you understand that it was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man.
unidentified
Damn, that boy is good.
Good and terrible.
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