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Why aren't you at the Fox News debate tonight in Milwaukee? | ||
Well, you know, a lot of people have been asking me that. | ||
When you say there are people on stage who shouldn't be running for president, who do you mean? | ||
Whatever happened to Mike Pence? | ||
He's out there attacking you. | ||
What is that? | ||
Do you think Epstein killed himself sincerely? | ||
Do you think we're moving towards civil war? | ||
It's good to have you at Bedminster. | ||
It's very nice. | ||
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I love it. | |
You're saying they stole it from you last time. | ||
Why wouldn't they do the same this time? | ||
Well, they'll try. | ||
They're going to be trying. | ||
Mitch McConnell is trying to get senators to impeach me. | ||
The crooked Joe Biden is so bad. | ||
He's the worst president in the history of our country. | ||
I don't think he's gonna make it to the gate, but, you know, you never know. | ||
It started with protests against you, and then it moved to impeachment twice. | ||
Right. | ||
And now indictment. | ||
Are you worried that they're gonna try and kill you? | ||
Why wouldn't they try and kill you? | ||
Honestly. | ||
They're savage animals. | ||
They are people that are sick. | ||
So do you think it's possible that there's open conflict? | ||
I can say this: there's a level of passion that I've never seen, there's a level of hatred that I've never seen, and that's probably a bad combination. | ||
We're doing this interview, but we'll get bigger ratings using this crazy forum that you're using than probably the debate. | ||
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If he gets hit with my titlers, that's his problem. | |
Far! | ||
What the hell are you trying to do? | ||
Frank, are you okay? | ||
Too ashamed of yourself. | ||
What's wrong with you? | ||
Your heart? | ||
What can I do? | ||
Pills? | ||
Where are your pills? | ||
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Well, I guess you're out of luck, aren't you? | |
Yeah. | ||
And now you're gonna die wearing that stupid little hat. | ||
How does it feel? | ||
Come on, baby! | ||
Are you ready? | ||
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Oh, I'm so ready to go! | |
Welcome to Debate McGinnon! | ||
We are ready tonight! | ||
So much happening right now. | ||
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We got a show for you. | ||
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Tucker's going to drop his interview with Trump any second now. | ||
Any second. | ||
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In Milwaukee, right in the corner. | ||
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Rolls-Royce has been driving all over the streets doing burnouts! | |
And now we are ready to show you our official debate. | ||
Format for this show that you are directly a part of. | ||
And go! | ||
Yeah, baby! | ||
Alright, here we go! | ||
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We're gonna check this out. | ||
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Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we have Tucker Carlson is up. | ||
Tucker Carlson has dropped his interview with Donald Trump. | ||
We are getting that loaded for you right now. | ||
It takes us a second to load this because Tucker drops his full file. | ||
In seconds, we will be playing the full file live with you along with the debate. | ||
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Here we go. | ||
Give it just a second here. | ||
Ladies and gentlemen. | ||
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Ladies and gentlemen. | |
Royce, we got audio? | ||
Yep. | ||
Just a moment, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
This audio, we're getting it set up. | ||
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That... | |
Shouldn't even be running for president? | ||
Should I be doing that? | ||
And a network that isn't particularly friendly to me, frankly. | ||
You know, they were backing Ronda Sanctimonious like crazy, and now they've given up on him. | ||
I mean, it's a lost cause. | ||
It reminded me very much of 2016. | ||
You know, in 2016, I went through the same stuff and had to fight them all the way, and then they became very friendly after I won or just about when I was winning. | ||
But I just felt it would be... | ||
More appropriate not to do the debate. | ||
I don't think it's right to do it. | ||
If you're leading by 50, 60, I have one problem leading by 70 points, and I'm saying, why am I doing it? | ||
And I'm going to have eight people, ten people, whoever made the debate. | ||
I don't know how many it is, but I'm going to have all these people screaming at me, shouting questions at me, all of which I love answering, I love doing, but it doesn't make sense to do them. | ||
So I've taken a pass, as you probably noticed. | ||
I did. | ||
I'm grateful that you did. | ||
It's interesting, though, because you spent a lot of your career in television. | ||
Yeah. | ||
You had a top show in television, IMBC. | ||
But you don't feel the need now running for president to do television, obviously. | ||
Do you think television is declining? | ||
Well, according to a poll that I guess we just saw, it just came out where it's down like 30, 35 percent. | ||
But I think they were talking, referring to cable. | ||
I think cable's down because it's lost credibility. | ||
MSNBC, or as they say, MSDNC, is so bad. | ||
Wrong what they write and what they do and what they say. | ||
It's fake news, as I said. | ||
I think I came up with that term. | ||
I hope I did because it's a good one. | ||
It's not tough enough anymore. | ||
It's corrupt news. | ||
You know, really what you do is call it corrupt news, but somehow that doesn't play as nicely. | ||
But it is corrupt news. | ||
So you have MSNBC and you have CNN, who's absolutely doing no ratings at all. | ||
I mean, they're dead. | ||
But they're doing none because they don't have credibility. | ||
They really don't have credibility. | ||
Fox is way down, as you know. | ||
And the good old days are long ago. | ||
I will say this. | ||
It could come back, but they just don't have a lot of credibility, Tucker. | ||
You know that perhaps better than anybody. | ||
I think it was a terrible move getting rid of you. | ||
You were number one on television, and all of a sudden you're... | ||
We're doing this interview, but we'll get bigger ratings using this crazy forum that you're using than probably the debate or competition. | ||
When you say there are people on stage who shouldn't be running for president, who do you mean? | ||
Well, I don't want to really use names, but it wouldn't matter too much. | ||
A guy like, I call him Ada Hutchinson. | ||
It's Asa, but I call him Ada. | ||
What do you call him Ada? | ||
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You know, I could tell you that I don't want to get myself in a little trouble. | |
But he's weak and pathetic. | ||
I never understood the guy. | ||
I never knew him. | ||
He was the governor of Arkansas. | ||
Not a very popular guy. | ||
I don't know how. | ||
That state is such a great state. | ||
The people are so incredible in that state. | ||
And they love me and I love them. | ||
How does this guy get elected governor of Arkansas? | ||
But he's nasty always and has been. | ||
A guy like Chris Christie, a guy left with an 8% approval rating in New Jersey. | ||
Now he's running for president. | ||
And he runs solely on the basis of, oh, let's get Trump. | ||
He's like a savage maniac. | ||
He's like a lunatic. | ||
And that's all he talks about. | ||
His poll numbers are very, very low. | ||
He's about 2%. | ||
What's he like? | ||
You know him well. | ||
I've been friendly with him over the years, but I couldn't give him a job because I just never trusted him very much. | ||
I was just never... | ||
One of his people that really trusted him. | ||
I never gave him the job. | ||
And that's one of the reasons he feels so hurt and so betrayed. | ||
And I understand that. | ||
I really do. | ||
I understand it. | ||
But I never gave him, you know, he wanted to be different things. | ||
He was looking at different elements of the administration. | ||
And we decided, I decided just, I didn't want to, I didn't want to do it. | ||
And now I'm glad I did because you see, but you know, we had some. | ||
Some great people. | ||
I had great people. | ||
We'll have even better people if we do this, because now I know Washington before I didn't know Washington. | ||
But guys like Bill Barr were terrible. | ||
I mean, they were, I would say, Bushies. | ||
I say that with respect to the Bush family, but they were Bushies, and it doesn't work out for us. | ||
It was clear, and this is kind of far afield, but it was just interesting. | ||
I read Barr's account of his time. | ||
He wrote a book about it. | ||
Right. | ||
His autobiography. | ||
And in it, he lies about Jeffrey Epstein's death. | ||
Clearly lies. | ||
Do you think Epstein killed himself sincerely? | ||
I don't know. | ||
I will say that, you know, he was a fixture in Palm Beach. | ||
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Yeah. | |
I don't know what Barr said about it either. | ||
I have no idea what he said. | ||
What did he say? | ||
He killed himself, probably? | ||
He said he killed himself and that they were going to do this investigation. | ||
They never did the investigation. | ||
It's never been public. | ||
And they hid it. | ||
And, like, why are they doing that? | ||
And clearly Barr knew. | ||
But why would Bill Barr be covering up the death of Jeffrey Epstein? | ||
Bill Barr didn't do an investigation on the election fraud either, okay? | ||
He said he did, and he pretended he did, but he didn't. | ||
McSwain, the U.S. attorney in Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, said Barr just wouldn't let him do it. | ||
It was crazy. | ||
Barr became so petrified, so frightened of being impeached. | ||
They were going to impeach him. | ||
I don't know if you remember it. | ||
It's not a big moment in history. | ||
But they said, we're going to impeach. | ||
You know, they play a much rougher game, the left, the lunatics. | ||
And they were going to impeach Bill Barr, and he was petrified. | ||
Now, how do you not get impeached? | ||
Don't do any of this stuff. | ||
But he didn't do the job there. | ||
I don't know what he did with Epstein, but possibly he didn't do that. | ||
Do you think it's possible that Epstein was killed? | ||
Oh, sure. | ||
It's possible. | ||
I mean, I don't really believe it. | ||
I think he probably committed suicide. | ||
He had a life with beautiful homes and beautiful everything, and all of a sudden he's incarcerated. | ||
Not doing very well. | ||
I would say that he did. | ||
But there are those people. | ||
There are many people. | ||
I think you're one of them, right? | ||
But a lot of people think that he was killed. | ||
He knew a lot on a lot of people. | ||
He was killed. | ||
You think so? | ||
I think the closer you look, I'm not a conspiracy person at all. | ||
I believe everything I hear. | ||
But, yeah, the closer you look into it, I mean, the Attorney General of the United States, your Attorney General, clearly lied about the Epstein. | ||
Yeah, he was nice. | ||
He was certainly it wasn't well done. | ||
They had no cameras. | ||
They had no anything. | ||
Everybody was sleeping. | ||
And, you know, the case could be made. | ||
Look, I'm not going to get involved in it, but I can tell you a case could be made either way. | ||
But it certainly wasn't the most well run place. | ||
So the reason I'm asking you is I'm looking at the trajectory since 2015 when you got into politics, you know, for real. | ||
And then one. | ||
It started with protests against you, massive protests, organized protests by the left, and then it moved to impeachment twice, and now indictment. | ||
I mean, the next stage is violence. | ||
Are you worried that they're going to try and kill you? | ||
Why wouldn't they try and kill you, honestly? | ||
They're savage animals. | ||
They are people that are sick, really sick. | ||
You have great people in the Democrat. | ||
You have great people that are Democrats. | ||
Most of the people in our country are fantastic. | ||
And I'm representing everybody. | ||
I'm not just Republicans or conservatives. | ||
I represent everybody. | ||
I'm the president of everybody. | ||
But I've seen what they do. | ||
I've seen the lengths that they go to. | ||
When they make up the Russia, Russia, Russia, when that's exposed and they go down and Barr should have gone after them and other people should have gone after. | ||
And they did very late because the Durham report came out. | ||
It was... | ||
Fairly good. | ||
It could have been a lot tougher, I guess, but it was fairly good. | ||
But it explained how corrupt it was. | ||
I'll tell you who did a great job was the Inspector General Horowitz. | ||
He did a phenomenal report. | ||
You didn't have to go to Durham. | ||
He did it on Comey and on, I guess, McCabe and some others. | ||
And it was a vicious... | ||
It was basically a true report, how bad they are. | ||
But these people are sick people. | ||
These are people that... | ||
I think they hate our country. | ||
You want to know the truth? | ||
When you see open borders, when you see these policies that they have, and so many other things, it's so sad to see. | ||
We have a country that's very fragile right now. | ||
I've never seen... | ||
I will say, look, I ran in 16, which was 15, but I ran in 16, election in 16, and there was tremendous spirit. | ||
In 20, there was even more spirit. | ||
We got millions and millions more votes. | ||
You know, it wasn't even a contest. | ||
People said, well, what do you think of 20? | ||
I said, we did much better. | ||
We did. | ||
You've got to base it on the number of votes. | ||
We got many more votes in 20 than we did in 16. But the election was rigged. | ||
It was a rigged election. | ||
And with COVID, they used COVID to cheat in a lot of different things, and we have so much on it. | ||
It's, like, so easy. | ||
But we had judges that didn't want to look. | ||
We had people who didn't want to get involved. | ||
He's a conspiracy theorist if you say anything about the election. | ||
But I have never seen spirit like there is right now. | ||
Even coming down here, just the people on the road that are just absolutely going crazy. | ||
And the reason is, I think they like me and I know they love my policies. | ||
I hope they like me too. | ||
You know, a lot of people say they don't like me, but they like my policies. | ||
I think they like me. | ||
I have never seen spirit like it is right now. | ||
And the reason is because crooked Joe Biden is so bad. | ||
He's the worst president in the history of our country. | ||
I don't think he's going to make it to the gate, but, you know, you never know. | ||
But he's a corrupt person, so corrupt that I took the name off Hillary. | ||
You know, I don't do two people at one time. | ||
I took the crooked Hillary and I made it. | ||
I retired the name. | ||
That was a good day for her. | ||
I'll bet she was very happy. | ||
And I used it for Joe because it's Crooked Joe. | ||
But Joe is really... | ||
But you don't think he's going to make it to November of 2020? | ||
Well, I think he's worse mentally than he is physically. | ||
And physically, he's not exactly a triathlete or any kind of an athlete. | ||
You look at him, he can't walk to the helicopter. | ||
He walks. | ||
He can't lift his feet out of the grass. | ||
You know, it's only two inches at the White House, right? | ||
It's not a lot. | ||
But you watch him and it looks like he's walking on toothpicks. | ||
And then you see him on the beach where he can't lift a chair. | ||
You know, those chairs are meant to be light, right? | ||
They're like two ounces. | ||
You lift them up. | ||
He can't lift the chair. | ||
He can't walk to the chair. | ||
And I don't know what they're doing with the beach. | ||
You know, this beach is seeming to play a big role. | ||
But they love pictures of him on the beach. | ||
I think he looks terrible on the beach. | ||
He looks terrible on the beach. | ||
Skinny legs. | ||
Well, he can't walk through the sand. | ||
You know, sand is not that easy to walk through. | ||
But when he walks through it, he can't walk through the sand. | ||
And there's somebody in there that thinks he looks fabulous at the beach. | ||
I think he looks horrible at the beach. | ||
Plus, the beach doesn't represent what the president's supposed to be doing. | ||
He's supposed to be working. | ||
He's supposed to be getting us out of that horrible, horrible war that we're very much involved in with Russia and Ukraine. | ||
You could do that. | ||
You could do that very easily. | ||
I believe you could do that. | ||
I don't believe he could do it because he's just incompetent. | ||
But that's a war that... | ||
It should end immediately, not because of one side or the other, because hundreds of thousands of people are being killed. | ||
Can you imagine you're in an apartment house and rockets are going into that building and blowing it up and knocking it down? | ||
And who can, why should anything, why should anybody, human beings, whether they're Russian or Ukrainian or whatever they are, it's got to be stopped. | ||
And it can't be stopped very easily. | ||
It would have never started. | ||
If I were president, it would have never started. | ||
So back to Biden, I'm interested. | ||
So you think he's failing. | ||
He obviously is failing. | ||
I think it's clear to everybody. | ||
But that would make Kamala Harris the candidate? | ||
Well, not really. | ||
I mean, I guess they'd have maybe a free-for-all. | ||
A lot of people say she has to remain for certain reasons, the candidate. | ||
She has to. | ||
I don't think that's true, actually. | ||
I don't think that other people would stand for it. | ||
She has some bad moments. | ||
Her moments are almost as bad as his. | ||
I think his are worse, actually. | ||
Yeah. | ||
She seems pretty senile, too. | ||
She speaks in rhyme. | ||
It's weird. | ||
It's weird. | ||
But she has bad moments. | ||
In rhyme? | ||
Well, the way she talks, the bus will go here and then the bus will go there because that's what buses do. | ||
It's weird. | ||
The whole thing is weird. | ||
This is not a president of the United States future. | ||
And I think they probably have some kind of a primary and other people will get involved. | ||
Newsom, right? | ||
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Could be. | |
He's got along well with him, believe it or not. | ||
But could be him, could be somebody else. | ||
He's got a big load on his shoulders because you look at California, what's happened. | ||
But I don't know if the American people really, the people that vote for him, I don't even know if they care. | ||
You look at so many of the things that are going on. | ||
People don't seem to be... | ||
In the old days, if you had a bad record, it meant a lot. | ||
Today, if you have a bad record, it doesn't really mean anything. | ||
You know, he looks good. | ||
He's a nice-looking guy. | ||
Speaks well. | ||
But Biden, every time you watch him talking, it's like he's walking on eggs. | ||
You're waiting for him to collapse. | ||
And he almost always does. | ||
And I got to know the leaders of all of the countries, essentially, but the big ones. | ||
And the bigger, the tougher the leader. | ||
You know, it's like, I guess maybe that's the way it's supposed to be. | ||
But I got to know President Xi of China and Putin and Kim Jong-un, North Korea. | ||
I did a great job with North Korea. | ||
Kept us out of a nuclear war. | ||
We would have 40,000 dead soldiers right now. | ||
They'd drop a nuke right on top of the military base. | ||
But we have 40,000 soldiers over there. | ||
And I did great. | ||
I got along with them great. | ||
That's a positive. | ||
You know, the press said, he said nice things about Kim Jong-un. | ||
I also said horrible things at the beginning. | ||
Horrible enough that he wanted to talk. | ||
And we talked and we met in Singapore. | ||
We met actually twice. | ||
And we had unbelievable meetings. | ||
I know him very well. | ||
We were in great shape with him. | ||
What do you think he and she and Putin think of Biden? | ||
I think they can't believe it. | ||
I think they probably say this is some kind of a system. | ||
You know, they had great respect for our country. | ||
They respected me. | ||
They had great respect for our country when I was there. | ||
Every one of them. | ||
Look. | ||
If you go to North Korea, you take a look at what happened. | ||
You know, the Olympics was dead. | ||
South Korea spent billions on the Olympics. | ||
Nobody was going to go. | ||
They didn't want to get blown up. | ||
They called me and they said, we are going to let the Olympics proceed. | ||
This is North Korea. | ||
I said, you should go into the Olympics. | ||
Put your athletes in. | ||
It wasn't like, you know, they were big on athletes because, you know. | ||
Famine. | ||
But they went in and they actually participated. | ||
And within about... | ||
Two days, the entire thing was sold out. | ||
And if it wasn't me, that would have never happened. | ||
But I got along very well with him, and that's a positive thing. | ||
He does have massive nuclear power, by the way. | ||
And if Hillary would have gotten in, or if the Obama thought process continued, it would have been a nuclear war, absolutely, with North Korea. | ||
He was expecting to go into a war, and it would have been a nuclear war. | ||
So do you think the rest of the world looks on at Biden and thinks someone else has got to be running the government? | ||
Well, somebody else has to be. | ||
I don't think he's capable of doing anything. | ||
Look, when I debated him, I said, how come? | ||
And this was in front of probably not a friend of yours, Chris Wallace. | ||
He was the moderator. | ||
Not a friend. | ||
I said, why is it he wants to be Mike, but he doesn't have the talent? | ||
He's a bitchy little man. | ||
He wanted to be his father, but he didn't have the talent. | ||
His father was great. | ||
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His father interviewed me in 60 Minutes. | |
It was actually a 10. His father had talent, at least. | ||
I may have been the only guy that he gave a good 60 Minutes. | ||
He was rough. | ||
His father was tough. | ||
He was great, though. | ||
He was great at what he did. | ||
But Chris Wallace was so upset. | ||
He was guarding this guy. | ||
Who wouldn't do a show, by the way? | ||
I didn't mind Chris Wells because he wouldn't do, Biden wouldn't do a show. | ||
And it was very obvious. | ||
You know, he kept asking him and asking, but he wouldn't do the show. | ||
So I figured he's got to like me. | ||
But he came from a different planet. | ||
But remember when I asked the question, why is it that the mayor of Moscow's wife is allowed to give you three and a half million dollars? | ||
Don't forget, that was brought up. | ||
Now it's brought up all the time. | ||
But that was brought up by me long before anyone ever heard of it. | ||
I said, the mayor of Moscow's wife giving you three and a half million dollars. | ||
What did you do to deserve three and a half million dollars to Biden? | ||
And Chris Wallace said, this doesn't, this has nothing to do with the debate. | ||
I mean, he fought. | ||
He got in the way of the question. | ||
No, well, it was crazy. | ||
And I said, well, wait a minute. | ||
He got three and a half million from the mayor of Moscow's wife. | ||
Now, people forget that, but you go back and take a look. | ||
You will see. | ||
And Chris Wallace didn't want me to ask that question. | ||
I said, I think it's a very appropriate question. | ||
It turned out to be much more appropriate than people. | ||
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Amazing. | |
So do you have a preference in, assuming you're the Republican nominee and all goes as you plan it to go, do you have a preference in who you run against? | ||
In many ways, I'd love to run against him because his record's so bad. | ||
You know, it's still horrible when you look at inflation and everything else, but others also have very bad records. | ||
I mean, California's a bad record, so, you know, should it be Gavin or should it be somebody else? | ||
When I look at San Francisco, what's happened to that incredible city? | ||
That was one of the greatest cities in the world just a short while ago. | ||
And now it's very sad when you look at it. | ||
Los Angeles. | ||
Every city, practically, all the Democrat-run cities. | ||
You know, Republican-run cities are doing very nicely because they arrest people when you have crimes. | ||
And they don't go after political candidates. | ||
Because they think it's good. | ||
It's been amazing. | ||
My poll numbers are the highest I've ever had. | ||
Because people understand it. | ||
Can I just ask you? | ||
That gets back to my original question. | ||
If the protest didn't work, you got elected anyway. | ||
Impeachment didn't work twice, obviously. | ||
Indictment is not working. | ||
Your poll numbers go up. | ||
When they raided Mar-a-Lago in August of last year, your numbers went up. | ||
They can indict you 20 times and you're not going to lose the Republican primary because of that. | ||
Well, it makes it look even more ridiculous. | ||
I mean, the four indictments and maybe there'll be more. | ||
I don't know. | ||
These people are crazy. | ||
But they're counterproductive. | ||
So if you chart it out, it's an escalation, is what I'm saying. | ||
So what's next? | ||
After trying to put you in prison for the rest of your life, that's not working. | ||
So don't they have to kill you now? | ||
Whoa. | ||
I think the people of our country... | ||
Don't get enough credit for how smart they are. | ||
And I'm not sure I would have said this 10 years ago, but they get it. | ||
You know, they really get it. | ||
When somebody gets indicted, your poll numbers go down. | ||
When somebody gets indicted, you announce, ladies and gentlemen, I'll be leaving to spend time with my family and to fight for the rest of my life on this stuff. | ||
But you're out of politics. | ||
I got indicted four times. | ||
All trivia, nonsense, bullshit. | ||
It's all bullshit. | ||
It's horrible when you look and you look at what they're doing. | ||
The boxes hoax. | ||
I'm covered by the Presidential Records Act. | ||
I'm allowed to do exactly that. | ||
He's not covered and he's got 25 times the number of boxes. | ||
And he's got them stored in Chinatown. | ||
He's got them stored in a flimsy garage underneath his Corvette at Penn. | ||
And by the way, at Penn he gets millions of dollars. | ||
China pays this guy millions of dollars. | ||
See, I think he's the most corrupt president we've ever had. | ||
And he also has the distinction of being the most incompetent. | ||
And I believe both. | ||
I mean, he's both incompetent and corrupt. | ||
I actually believe he's compromised because China knows so much about him. | ||
They know where the money comes from. | ||
They know where it is, who paid it, and they probably paid it. | ||
Well, they do pay Penn, and he gets a million dollars. | ||
I think he takes $999,000 because he keeps it a little bit under a million, like by a dollar. | ||
He, in many ways, is a Manchurian candidate. | ||
We have a Manchurian candidate, and he's afraid to tell Russia to get out of Cuba. | ||
He's afraid to tell China to get out of Cuba. | ||
He's afraid... | ||
China now is building... | ||
Think of this. | ||
China's building military installations in Cuba. | ||
The Cuban population of Miami is not too happy because they're never going to be able to go back. | ||
And you don't even hear about it. | ||
And the worst culprit is the press, the media, because... | ||
Normally, you know, when I first heard that, that China's building installations in Cuba, and installations means military installations. | ||
Okay, you know, they said, just some communication. | ||
They did that on the islands with Japan. | ||
They took the island, they started this massive construction, and they told everybody, including the Japanese, the Japanese have to be very careful. | ||
They told everybody, but this is a housing development. | ||
They're going to build a housing development. | ||
And I said, how come the runway is 20,000 feet long? | ||
You know, private jets need... | ||
4,000 feet. | ||
They don't need 20,000 feet. | ||
The big ones need 20,000 feet. | ||
They don't even need 20. And I looked at the runway. | ||
I said, that's the largest runway ever built, both in width and length, for housing development. | ||
There's nobody that has a plane that big that you would have a runway that's protesting. | ||
Why is China allowed to... | ||
Conduct imperialism in our hemisphere. | ||
Well, yeah, and it's far beyond Cuba. | ||
It's all over South America. | ||
Yeah, in the Caribbean. | ||
So we built a thing called the Panama Canal. | ||
We lost 35,000 people to the mosquito, you know, malaria. | ||
We lost 35,000 people building. | ||
We lost 35,000 people because of the mosquito. | ||
Vicious. | ||
They had to build under nets. | ||
It was one of the true great... | ||
Wonders of the world, as he said, one of the nine wonders of the world. | ||
No, no, it was one of the seven. | ||
It happened a little while ago, you know. | ||
It's nine wonders of the world. | ||
You could make nine wonders. | ||
He would have been better off if he stuck with the nine and just said, yeah, I think it's nine. | ||
But this is one of the true seven wonders of the world. | ||
And you take a look at the Panama Canal. | ||
It was such an incredible engineering marvel. | ||
We sold it under Jimmy Carter. | ||
We sold it to Panama for $1. | ||
The following day, they quadrupled the amount of money that ships had to pay to get across. | ||
They didn't lose one ship, and now they've made it much bigger, and now they've widened it. | ||
They've doubled it, right? | ||
They've more than doubled it. | ||
And it's one of the most profitable things. | ||
Any time, it's just incredible, right? | ||
We gave it away for $1. | ||
China now controls it. | ||
They actually control the Panama Canal. | ||
They run it. | ||
They control it. | ||
And we shouldn't let that happen. | ||
And we can't let China be in Cuba. | ||
And they'll get out. | ||
If I'm president, they'll get out. | ||
Because I had a very good relationship with President Xi, but he respected this country. | ||
He respected me. | ||
And he'll get out. | ||
And we can't let them run the Panama Canal. | ||
We built the Panama Canal. | ||
Should have never been given to Panama. | ||
We should have had it. | ||
But we gave it for $1. | ||
Think of it. | ||
They quadrupled. | ||
In one day, they lifted the fees, which are, you know, pretty big for these massive ships to go through, right? | ||
Rather than going around the Cape and all the tremendous storms, such beauty, such, you know, when you say it's beautiful stuff. | ||
But you didn't want to get caught in those storms. | ||
Those were storms that wiped out the biggest ships. | ||
And we go through the Panama Canal. | ||
We built it. | ||
And we gave it away for $1. | ||
Think of that. | ||
How stupid are we? | ||
We have done the stupidest things in this country. | ||
And now we have a president that can't put two sentences together, can't speak, can't walk, can't talk. | ||
I don't think he gets to the starting gate, but these people do miracles. | ||
I mean, he ran out of his basement, and you got away with that one because of COVID, so he sort of got away with it. | ||
They cheated on the election. | ||
But you have people that are very smart, but they're fascists and they're radical left lunatics, and they're destroying our country with the all-electric cars. | ||
And the windmills all over the place, which, by the way, don't work. | ||
And they're all, most of them, made in China. | ||
For the most part, they're made in China. | ||
Germany a little bit, but China. | ||
But you look at what's happening to our country, even no voter ID. | ||
I mean, why don't they want voter ID? | ||
There's only one reason they don't want voter ID, because they want to cheat. | ||
Who doesn't want? | ||
You know, the Democrat convention, the last one, they had voter ID that was this big. | ||
It looked like a prison card. | ||
This big on their chest. | ||
You walked in, they had your picture, your this, your fingerprint, everything. | ||
The most incredible voter ID I've ever seen. | ||
That was to get into the Democrat National Convention. | ||
But to get in to vote, if you buy groceries, if you buy practically anything now, you have ID on a card, credit cards or otherwise. | ||
But don't you think it's racist to have to show your ID? | ||
Well, they probably say that. | ||
They use anything not to show ID because voter ID is pretty simple. | ||
We could go back, and we should go back to all paper ballots, voter IDs, same-day voting. | ||
You know, France did. | ||
France had mail-in ballots, and it was terrible. | ||
Anytime you have mail-in ballots, you're going to have massive cheating on your elections. | ||
Anytime. | ||
Not just the presidential election. | ||
Anytime you have... | ||
Isn't that the whole point of them? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Oh, yeah, sure. | ||
It's the whole point. | ||
That's the whole point. | ||
They want to cheat. | ||
Yeah. | ||
They have to cheat because their policies are so bad that if they didn't cheat, they couldn't get elected. | ||
Who wants open borders? | ||
Who wants high taxes? | ||
Who wants high interest rates? | ||
Who wants to not be able to use a gas stove? | ||
Or have to drive an electric car, which, you know, you have a four-hour drive, but the car only goes an hour and a half years. | ||
You have to charge it. | ||
The happiest moment for somebody in an electric car is the first 10 minutes. | ||
In other words, you get it charged, and now for 10 minutes. | ||
The unhappiest part is the next hour because you're petrified that you're not going to be fined to another charger. | ||
I'm not knocking electric cars. | ||
They're fine. | ||
They're fine. | ||
But if people want to buy a gasoline car or a hybrid, hybrids are pretty good, actually, but they should be allowed to buy. | ||
They don't want to do any of this. | ||
So right now, California's in a big brownout because their grid is a disaster. | ||
The grid all over the country is sort of a disaster, but the grid in California. | ||
And yet, they want to have, in a very short period of time, millions and millions of cars going off that grid, essentially. | ||
It doesn't work. | ||
So plug your car into a grid that's famous. | ||
You should be able to buy an electric car. | ||
You know, electric cars could be fine if you drive short distances and you want to have, you know, whatever, and you have plug-ins everywhere you go. | ||
They could be fine. | ||
But you've got to have gasoline cars. | ||
You've got to have everything. | ||
Let people buy everything. | ||
Now the new thing is your heating system's in the house. | ||
They don't want you to have a modern-day heating system. | ||
They want you to use a heating system that will cost you at least $10,000 to buy and won't work very well. | ||
You know, none of this stuff works as well. | ||
One of the things I did with EPA is you have states, many states, most of the states have so much water. | ||
You know, it comes out of heaven, right? | ||
The water pours down and you have it. | ||
It's there. | ||
It's got a... | ||
Go wherever it goes, into the oceans, whatever. | ||
It's not like a big problem. | ||
Now, in some states, they have a problem. | ||
You know, you have some desert areas and all, and for that, it's okay. | ||
But they have sinks where no water comes out. | ||
You turn it on, no water comes out. | ||
No water comes out of the shower. | ||
No water is allowed to go into the washing machine for your dishes or for your clothing. | ||
And I avoided all of that. | ||
Sinks where no water comes out? | ||
Sure, you have restrictors. | ||
When I say no water, very little water, you want to wash your hands, right? | ||
Yeah. | ||
And you've seen this. | ||
And you turn on the sink and it's very little. | ||
Or you want to wash your beautiful hair, right? | ||
And you're standing under a shower. | ||
Then the suds never go. | ||
The water comes out very slowly. | ||
I'm sure you've seen this. | ||
It usually takes place in new hotels and new homes. | ||
Yeah, you take a drill and take the limiter out. | ||
Well, you can, but now they make it so you can't do that so easily. | ||
They have a restrictor. | ||
It's called a restrictor. | ||
And it restricts the water from coming out. | ||
So I ended all of that. | ||
And you have to see these. | ||
They let the water come out. | ||
You know what people do? | ||
They wash their hands like five times longer. | ||
Or in the washing machine, they'll press for their, let's say, the dishwasher. | ||
They'll press it. | ||
Then they'll press it about seven or eight times. | ||
They'll end up using more water, and it still won't be very good. | ||
I met with the head of Whirlpool. | ||
They were practically going out of business during my administration, and they said to me from Ohio, incredible, great state. | ||
I love Ohio. | ||
They were really doing badly because people were dumping washing machines all over, mostly from South Korea, but also from China. | ||
And he was explaining it's just a terrible situation. | ||
I said, let me ask you. | ||
How's the quality? | ||
He says, we're better, but they are good enough quality. | ||
But, you know, of course he's going to say that. | ||
But, you know, they are better. | ||
He said, but they don't allow us. | ||
They're dumping these machines. | ||
They're cutting us in half. | ||
They're killing us. | ||
And on top of it, the government won't let us use water in our machines. | ||
I mean, he shows me like a quarter of a bottle of water. | ||
That's supposed to be washing clothing. | ||
And I freed it all up, and I put tariffs on. | ||
These countries that were selling and the machines coming into the country. | ||
And that company went from a big, all the washing machine companies, they make washing machines, they make dryers, they make all of the different machines that do this kind of work, including dishwashers. | ||
And they went from a disaster area to being just thriving. | ||
They love me in that part of Ohio. | ||
Well, I bet they do, but why should EPA, no one at EPA was elected by anybody, why do they have the power? | ||
To decide how much water your washing machine uses. | ||
Shouldn't Congress in a democracy get to vote on that? | ||
Yeah, you could say that. | ||
They do things that are not very... | ||
So how do you... | ||
That's my question. | ||
How do you... | ||
If you get elected again, go back to Washington, how do you keep the agencies under control? | ||
How do you keep FBI and CIA specifically under control? | ||
The way you do it, like I fired Comey, that was a big deal. | ||
You know, a lot of people said... | ||
And I fired him very early. | ||
Somebody said, oh, I wish you would have fired him. | ||
There's a real question about firing. | ||
Anyway, you understand, because when they have a 10-year term, there is a question. | ||
I fired Comey. | ||
That was a great thing. | ||
If I didn't fire Comey, maybe I wouldn't be talking to you, or I'd be talking to you about real estate or something else other than politics, right? | ||
That was a coup, in my opinion. | ||
That was a very sick deal. | ||
That was the insurance policy. | ||
You remember the insurance policy? | ||
Oh, she's going to win, darling. | ||
She's going to win. | ||
But just in case she doesn't, we have an insurance policy. | ||
An insurance policy was what they were doing. | ||
And we caught them. | ||
That was a very important tweet or whatever it was, text. | ||
It was a big deal. | ||
That was a big deal. | ||
The insurance policy. | ||
She's going to win $100 million to one. | ||
That's not good odds. | ||
At least they gave me one, right? | ||
$100 million to one. | ||
But just in case she doesn't win, we have an insurance policy. | ||
And everybody said, that's strange. | ||
That's strange. | ||
But we caught all of that because I fired Comey. | ||
Because when I fired Comey, it was like throwing a rock into a hornet's nest, into a nest of bees, and the place went crazy. | ||
So when you were president, are you confident that you knew everything, say, CIA was doing? | ||
No, I'm not. | ||
I'm not. | ||
It's a very interesting group of people. | ||
I had very good relationships, I thought. | ||
But I was a little surprised when I got out that, you know, things go on. | ||
Look, it's... | ||
What were you surprised by? | ||
I was surprised, I think, at some of the people. | ||
I was surprised that there was... | ||
I had a group of people. | ||
We killed many using the CIA, I have to say this. | ||
Bad, very bad actors. | ||
We were very good at it. | ||
You look at... | ||
Soleimani, you look at al-Baghdadi, bigger than Osama bin Laden. | ||
I mean, Osama bin Laden, but al-Baghdadi did ISIS, and he was rebuilding ISIS very strongly. | ||
And that was the CIA that did that? | ||
That was really us that did that. | ||
That was really us that did that. | ||
And Soleimani was us that did that, not so much CIA. | ||
But we did some very good work with the CIA. | ||
But I started, you know, when I looked at the 51 intelligence agents saying that the laptop from hell was Russia disinformation, when I took a look at that, I said, that's a horrible thing. | ||
They knew it wasn't. | ||
They knew it was not. | ||
And by the way, you're talking about cheating on the election? | ||
McLaughlin and Fabrizio, great pollsters, they said a thing like that plus other things meant anywhere from 10 to 17 percent. | ||
Whatever happened to Mike Pence? | ||
You've always been nice to Pence. | ||
I've never heard you criticize Pence. | ||
You've defended him in public many, many times. | ||
He's out there attacking you. | ||
What is that? | ||
So Mike wants to run for president. | ||
You've got to understand, in my opinion, Mike Pence had the absolute right to send the votes back to the legislatures. | ||
The Democrats and everybody said, you don't have the right. | ||
In other words, what I said, is he a human conveyor belt? | ||
You mean if he finds fraud in Pennsylvania? | ||
In Georgia, in any of these states, Arizona, he has to send them to Mitch McConnell, right? | ||
That's right, sir. | ||
Well, if he finds fraud, he has to? | ||
Yes, sir. | ||
I said, so he's just, so he's a conveyor belt. | ||
Boom, put him in. | ||
I said, I don't agree with that. | ||
And we had some lawyers, not all. | ||
We had some lawyers that said, no, you do have the right to send them back to the legislatures to be rechecked. | ||
Because if you looked at what went on in Wisconsin, who, by the way, now agree with me, Wisconsin has been virtually, other than the fact they're not allowed to do anything statutorily, but Wisconsin has been, I mean, what they found is incredible. | ||
I mean, we won Wisconsin. | ||
But Mike Pence had the right, in my opinion, To send him back. | ||
Do you ever talk to him now? | ||
No, I haven't spoken to him in a long time. | ||
I was very disappointed in him. | ||
I didn't want to do what Thomas Jefferson did. | ||
Thomas Jefferson, it was Georgia. | ||
And it was, hear ye, hear ye, the great state of Georgia is not capable or allowed to tabulate their votes. | ||
And Thomas Jefferson, who was the vice president, said, is Georgia... | ||
Sure that they cannot tabulate their votes. | ||
Georgia is sure. | ||
He didn't send them back and have them redo it. | ||
He said, we will keep the votes of the great state of Georgia for Thomas Jefferson and his president. | ||
I didn't ask him for that. | ||
Could have done that too, but I thought that would be thermal. | ||
I asked him to send them back to his legislature. | ||
To the legislatures, you know, in Wisconsin, let's say. | ||
But why didn't he? | ||
I mean, you'd worked together for four years. | ||
You're the president. | ||
He's VP. | ||
You say you're aligned on everything. | ||
I think he got very bad advice. | ||
I really do. | ||
Now, let me tell you what happened. | ||
I sat there with a few people. | ||
I think his lawyer was in the room, too. | ||
His lawyer was very much against it. | ||
There were other lawyers that felt you could do it. | ||
It was one of those things. | ||
I think you could have done it. | ||
I think you can always do something if you see fraud or if you see problems. | ||
But it's very interesting. | ||
So after the election was over, the RINOs got together with the Democrats and they redid the election so you couldn't do it anymore. | ||
So then I called the people. | ||
I said, so in other words, you're saying I was right. | ||
You could do it. | ||
Yes, you could do it. | ||
In other words, they took the Voting Act and they redid it so the vice president no longer has the power to do what I said he could do. | ||
So when that happened, I said, wow. | ||
And, you know, you'd look some of these Democrats in the eye and they'd say, he has absolutely no right to do it. | ||
And immediately after the election, they met rhinos, you could name them all, and Democrats. | ||
And they approved legislation that takes away the right of the vice president to do it. | ||
So I said, ah, so you're saying I was right. | ||
The vice president did have the right to do it, and they said, yes, he did. | ||
So if you're saying they stole it from you last time, why wouldn't they do the same this time? | ||
Oh, well, they'll try. | ||
And not only me. | ||
Look, De Sanctis is out. | ||
I think he's gone. | ||
He was at a level. | ||
People have figured him out. | ||
He's gone. | ||
But if somebody else got in other than me, they'll go at him just as viciously as they did me. | ||
These people are sick. | ||
They will go after them. | ||
And a lot of people say they won't be able to hold up. | ||
I do get credit for holding up quite well, I must tell you. | ||
How do you do that? | ||
How do you get indicted every week and stay cheerful? | ||
I think it's a lot easier because I'm so high in the polls because it means the people get it. | ||
The people see it's a fraud. | ||
The people see it like this horrible district attorney. | ||
From just a little while ago, from essentially Atlanta, it's Fulton County. | ||
She said, basically, I don't have any right to challenge an election. | ||
Well, what about Stacey Abrams? | ||
What about Hillary Clinton? | ||
What about all of these Democrats that are still challenging my election? | ||
The same people that are saying he's challenging an election challenged my election. | ||
And they did it with slates. | ||
They did it with all sorts of things. | ||
They were very bad, very bad about it. | ||
But basically, they're suing me, and they're saying, you don't have any right to challenge, and if you challenge an election, we're going to indict you and put you in jail. | ||
So what they're doing is they're really, they've weaponized, and don't kid yourself, the DOJ and Biden and the whole group, they're watching all of this stuff. | ||
They love the local stuff, you know, the DA in Manhattan. | ||
Not only that, they put one of the DOJ top people into the Manhattan DA's office. | ||
To run things. | ||
They don't even have a case against me. | ||
It's not even a case. | ||
Everyone says, even the Democrats say, you can't bring these cases. | ||
You have no case. | ||
The Attorney General or the District Attorney, Fannie, Fannie Willis, in Atlanta, she's getting killed. | ||
Basically, she's saying Trump doesn't have the right to criticize an election. | ||
But you've been around long enough now. | ||
You've seen many elections criticized. | ||
I mean, Hillary Clinton goes crazy. | ||
Every time she talks, she says, he's not the president, Jimmy Carter. | ||
So he's not the president. | ||
I am the president. | ||
Hillary Clinton called me, by the way, 302 in the morning to congratulate me the night of the election. | ||
Did her voice crack? | ||
Well, her voice was very different. | ||
I won't get into that. | ||
What do you mean? | ||
Her voice was very different. | ||
Don't forget, they were all celebrating at 5 o 'clock in the afternoon. | ||
And I came home and I said, you know, I think we won. | ||
I felt we won because the rallies are so big. | ||
You know, we'd go to Wisconsin and we'd go to Georgia. | ||
We'd go to different states. | ||
And Michigan, we'd have rallies in Pennsylvania with 58,000 people and Butler. | ||
And I said, you know, how are we losing this? | ||
How do you have a rally where you have... | ||
From 50 to 100,000 people, many of them. | ||
You know, I did seven a day for a couple of days. | ||
That's a lot. | ||
That's a lot. | ||
These are big rallies, too. | ||
And I didn't hold back. | ||
I didn't say, let's make them little, let's do abbreviations, right? | ||
But they challenged this stuff. | ||
Hillary called me up and conceded. | ||
Now, the word is that Obama said you have to do that. | ||
But she called up and totally conceded. | ||
But now, you know, every time you see her on television, she's saying, like... | ||
Well, she's challenging the election. | ||
So that would mean that she should be indicted, but that would mean also that Stacey Abrams in Georgia should be indicted, because she still thinks she won the election for governor. | ||
She still thinks that. | ||
She's never recanted. | ||
Do you think Stacey Abrams will be indicted for that? | ||
No, of course not. | ||
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You won't be. | |
The Democrats don't get indicted for things like that. | ||
They don't get impeached. | ||
No, it's a different thing. | ||
With that being said, I had great support when they did impeachment hoax number one and impeachment hoax number two. | ||
Jim Jordan, the House was fantastic. | ||
And actually, the Senate was very good for me. | ||
Other than, you know, Mitch McConnell. | ||
I think if he had... | ||
It's too bad I endorsed him. | ||
He was begging he was going to lose that race and I endorsed him. | ||
And he ended up winning the race because of my endorsement. | ||
He was down. | ||
He was going to lose, too. | ||
Amy McGrath, $90 million in cash, all set to go. | ||
She was leading by three. | ||
He was going down. | ||
I did him a favor, and then three, four months later, he really wanted to impeach me. | ||
He's a bad guy. | ||
But if you look at what's going on politically, it's so interesting. | ||
The level of loyalty is different in politics than it is in normal life, I will say. | ||
With that being said, I've had great loyalty also. | ||
The House was fantastic. | ||
The Senate was very good. | ||
You know, they overrode Mitch McConnell. | ||
Mitch McConnell, in my opinion, was trying to get senators to impeach me, especially for the second one. | ||
And on the first one, he acted very, very slow. | ||
He should have gone much faster. | ||
But Mitch McConnell wanted to, and the senators went up to him. | ||
Guys that are subservient to him because he gives money. | ||
You know, he gives them money. | ||
He gives them a lot of money. | ||
He raises some money and he gives it to them, and therefore they... | ||
Do what he said. | ||
That's the only form of leadership he's got. | ||
So last question. | ||
If you're elected president again, what's your top, your number one priority? | ||
When you ran last time, you said, I will build a wall. | ||
This time, your bottom line, top promise to the country. | ||
So you can do numerous things at the same time. | ||
Of course. | ||
But let's say number one is a border. | ||
And taking hundreds of thousands of criminals that have been allowed into our country and getting them out and bringing them back to them. | ||
Their country, Guatemala. | ||
By the way, not only the four countries that we think of as neighbors, all over the world. | ||
Last month, we had 149 countries represented. | ||
Think of it. | ||
We had 149 countries represented, Tucker, from places that many people never even heard of coming into our country. | ||
And they're coming in from mental institutions, and they're coming in from prisons. | ||
They're emptying out their prisons all over South America. | ||
They're emptying out their mental institutions. | ||
Terrorists are pouring into our country. | ||
We have no idea. | ||
I had the strongest border in the history of our country. | ||
And I built almost 500 miles of wall. | ||
You know, they like to say, oh, was it less? | ||
No. | ||
I built 500 miles. | ||
In fact, if you check with the authorities on the border, we built almost 500 miles of wall. | ||
And I had another 200 that I was going to build. | ||
You know, it's like water. | ||
It seeks. | ||
And we're going to build another 200. | ||
We built it. | ||
It was all set to go. | ||
All they had to do was install it. | ||
It would have taken three weeks. | ||
And that's when I found out. | ||
I said, I think these people actually want open borders. | ||
The first thing I would do would be I would seal up the border good and tight, except for people that want to come in legally. | ||
Do you think we're moving towards civil war? | ||
Wow. | ||
There's tremendous passion and there's tremendous love. | ||
You know, January 6th was a very interesting day because they don't report it properly. | ||
I believe it was the largest crowd I've ever spoken before. | ||
And you know some of the crowds I've spoken before. | ||
And like July 4th on the mall, I think they had a million people there. | ||
But I think that the biggest crowd I've ever spoken before was on January 6th. | ||
And people that were in that crowd, a very, very small group of people. | ||
And we said... | ||
Go patriotically and peacefully, peacefully and patriotically, right? | ||
Nobody ever says that. | ||
Go peacefully and patriotically. | ||
But people that were in that crowd that day, a very small group of people went down there, and then there are a lot of scenarios that we can talk about. | ||
But people in that crowd said it was the most beautiful day they've ever experienced. | ||
There was love in that crowd. | ||
There was love and unity. | ||
I have never seen such spirit and such passion and such love. | ||
And I've also never seen, simultaneously and from the same people, such hatred of what they've done to our country. | ||
So do you think it's possible that there's open conflict? | ||
We seem to be moving towards something. | ||
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I don't know. | |
I don't know. | ||
Because I don't know what it... | ||
You know, I can say this. | ||
There's a level of passion that I've never seen. | ||
There's a level of hatred. | ||
That I've never seen, and that's probably a bad combination. | ||
Thank you. | ||
Thank you very much. | ||
Thank you. | ||
That is a bad combination, by the way. | ||
Bad combination. | ||
Thank you. | ||
All right, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
Wow! | ||
That was Donald Trump's 47-minute interview with Tucker Carlson. | ||
Our sources at Twitter have been communicating with us. | ||
We are very, very close to Twitter. | ||
That was published on Twitter. | ||
And we have close to 100 million views on that clip alone. | ||
I wanted to shut my trap and let them speak. | ||
There have been some incredible fireworks from that debate. | ||
There was an amazing moment in the Donald Trump... | ||
Tucker Carlson interview where Donald Trump ripped into Joe Biden. | ||
Just destroyed Joe Biden. | ||
I've never seen anything like this. | ||
We have the recap here. | ||
We are going to be bringing you the debate live, but we're going to recap some of the things from Tucker and Trump, because that is far more interesting, I think, right now. | ||
And then we are going to be bringing the debate live to you, along with some of the highlights. | ||
Vivek Ron Swamy has been getting in fights with Mike Pence and Chris Christie. | ||
They've been mauling each other. | ||
But nothing like the mauling that Donald Trump just laid into old, diseased Joe Biden. | ||
But Joe is really... | ||
But you don't think he's going to make it to November of 2020? | ||
Well, I think he's worse mentally than he is physically. | ||
And physically, he's not exactly a triathlete or any kind of an athlete. | ||
You look at him, he can't walk to the helicopter. | ||
He walks. | ||
He can't lift his feet out of the grass. | ||
You know, it's only two inches at the White House, right? | ||
It's not a lot. | ||
But you watch him, and it looks like he's walking on toothpicks. | ||
And then you see him on the beach where he can't lift a chair. | ||
You know, those chairs are meant to be light, right? | ||
They're like two ounces. | ||
You lift them up. | ||
He can't lift the chair. | ||
He can't walk to the chair. | ||
And I don't know what they're doing with the beach. | ||
You know, this beach is seeming to play a big role, but they love pictures of him on the beach. | ||
I think he looks terrible on the beach. | ||
He looks terrible on the beach. | ||
Skinny legs. | ||
Well, he can't walk through the sand. | ||
You know, sand is not that easy to walk through. | ||
But when he walks through it, he can't walk through the sand. | ||
And there's somebody in there that thinks he looks fabulous at the beach. | ||
I think he looks horrible at the beach. | ||
Plus, the beach doesn't represent what a president's supposed to be doing. | ||
He's supposed to be working. | ||
He's supposed to be getting us out of that horrible, horrible war that we're very much involved in with Russia. | ||
And Ukraine, you could do that. | ||
You could do that very easily. | ||
I believe you could do that very... | ||
I don't believe he could do it because he's just incompetent. | ||
But that's a war that should end immediately, not because of one side or the other, because hundreds of thousands of people are being killed. | ||
Can you imagine you're in an apartment house and rockets are going into that building and blowing it up and knocking it down? | ||
Who can, why should anything, why should anybody, human beings, whether they're Russian or Ukrainian or whatever they are, it's got to be stopped. | ||
And it can be stopped very easily. | ||
It would have never started. | ||
If I were president, it would have never started. | ||
Donald Trump there talking about Joe Biden saying he has, he's a man who walks like he's on toothpicks. | ||
He's a skinny, diseased little man. | ||
Donald Trump also didn't hold back when he was talking about Kamala Harris, saying that Kamala Harris speaks in rhyme when she talks about the school buses. | ||
So back to Biden, I'm interested. | ||
So you think he's failing. | ||
He obviously is failing. | ||
I think it's clear to everybody. | ||
But that would make Kamala Harris the candidate? | ||
Well, not really. | ||
I mean, I guess they'd have maybe a free-for-all. | ||
A lot of people say she has to remain for certain reasons the candidate. | ||
She has to. | ||
I don't think that's true, actually. | ||
I don't think that other people would stand for it. | ||
She has some bad moments. | ||
Her moments are almost as bad as his. | ||
I think his are worse, actually. | ||
Yeah. | ||
She seems pretty senile, too. | ||
She speaks in rhyme. | ||
It's weird. | ||
It's weird. | ||
But she has bad moments. | ||
In rhyme? | ||
Well, the way she talks, the bus will go here and then the bus will go there because that's what buses do. | ||
It's weird. | ||
The whole thing is weird. | ||
This is not a president of the United States future. | ||
And I think they probably have some kind of a primary and other people will get involved. | ||
Newsom, right? | ||
Could be. | ||
I always got along well with him, believe it or not. | ||
But could be him, could be somebody else. | ||
He's got a big... | ||
A big load on his shoulders because you look at California, what's happened. | ||
But I don't know if the American people really, the people that vote for him, I don't even know if they care. | ||
You know, you look at so many of the things that are going on, and people don't seem to be, in the old days, if you had a bad record, it meant a lot. | ||
Today, if you have a bad record, it doesn't really mean anything. | ||
You know, he looks good. | ||
So, Donald Trump and his interview with Tucker Carlson, again, we are communicating directly with X, formerly known as Twitter. | ||
We're on a dead-name Twitter. | ||
They say that this interview has gone bananas, and that it is essentially melting down the platform. | ||
That the Tucker Carlson-Trump interview has already done 100 million views. | ||
And you, of course, were part of that because we played it for you live, along with the GOP debate, which is ongoing right now, and we will be cutting to quite soon here, but I just gotta play one more. | ||
Just gotta play one more, because Tucker Carlson will defeat Fox News in the ratings tonight. | ||
There will be more people. | ||
There already have been more people that watched Trump and Tucker, their interview, than will watch the GOP debate. | ||
There have been some interesting moments and some very good moments, ladies and gentlemen, but nothing like Tucker Carlson going after his old employer, Fox News, saying that the prestigious Chris Wallace is a bitchy little man. | ||
Oh, what a great clip. | ||
I didn't think someone else has got to be running the government. | ||
Well, somebody else has to be. | ||
I don't think he's capable of doing anything. | ||
Look, when I debated him, I said, how come, and this was in front of probably not a friend of yours, Chris Wallace. | ||
He was the moderator. | ||
Not a friend. | ||
I said, why is it he wants to be Mike, but he doesn't have the talent? | ||
He's a bitchy little man. | ||
He wanted to be his father, but he didn't have the talent. | ||
His father was great. | ||
His father interviewed me in 60 Minutes. | ||
It was actually a 10. Can you believe it? | ||
His father had talent, at least. | ||
I may have been the only guy that he gave a good 60 Minutes to. | ||
He was rough. | ||
His father was tough. | ||
He was great, though. | ||
He was great at what he did. | ||
But Chris Wallace was so upset. | ||
He was guarding this guy. | ||
Who wouldn't do a show, by the way? | ||
I figured, I didn't mind Chris Wells because he wouldn't do, Biden wouldn't do a show. | ||
And it was very obvious. | ||
You know, he kept asking him and asking, but he wouldn't do the show. | ||
So I figured he's got to like me. | ||
But he came from a different planet. | ||
But remember when I asked the question, why is it that the mayor of Moscow's wife is allowed to give you three and a half million dollars? | ||
Don't forget, that was brought up now. | ||
It's brought up all the time. | ||
But that was brought up by me long before anyone ever heard of it. | ||
I said, the mayor of Moscow's wife giving you three and a half million dollars. | ||
What did you do to deserve three and a half million dollars to Biden? | ||
And Chris Wallace said, this doesn't, this has nothing to do with the debate. | ||
I mean, he fought. | ||
It's so great. | ||
It's like two old friends chumming it up. | ||
It was amazing to see this. | ||
It was amazing to see Tucker and Trump together. | ||
They had such a great free-flowing conversation. | ||
Tucker asking multiple times, do you think they're going to kill you? | ||
Do you think they're going to kill you? | ||
It's wild. | ||
We're going to recap all of it in the morning, but those are three major standout moments. | ||
Tucker Carlson calling his former Fox News host bitchy. | ||
Trump just savaging Biden and Kamala for minutes on end. | ||
I mean, there's like 10 minutes of Donald Trump just straight up wrecking, napalming the Biden regime. | ||
And, oh man, straight into my veins. | ||
Also straight into my veins, you know, Mike Pence has been booed. | ||
Effectively offstage. | ||
We're going to cut to the Republican debate. | ||
We've got another 70 minutes at the Republican debate. | ||
But Mike Pence was booed off the stage. | ||
Check this out. | ||
This is a... | ||
Amazing clip that happened while we were playing Trump and Tucker Live. | ||
Of course, we were going to take the audio from Trump and Tucker Live. | ||
We weren't going to interrupt that. | ||
I wasn't going to say anything, but you've got to check this moment out. | ||
I balanced budgets and cut taxes when I was governor. | ||
I mean, look, Joe Biden has weakened this country at home and abroad. | ||
Now is not the time for on-the-job training. | ||
We don't need to bring in a rookie. | ||
We don't need to bring in people without experience. | ||
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We need to bring people without experience. | |
This is this kid. | ||
Hold on, it's 30 seconds when you have a rebuttal, okay? | ||
Oh man, they called Vivek a rookie? | ||
Vivek's been going hard at Trump as well. | ||
I'm sorry, correction, please, forgive me. | ||
Going hard at Pence as well. | ||
Pence already had his career ended by Tucker Carlson, so why is he even standing on the stage? | ||
Check this out. | ||
You got people on this stage that won't even talk about issues like Social Security and Medicare. | ||
Vivek, you recently said a president can't do everything. | ||
Well, I got news for you, Vivek. | ||
I've been in the hallway. | ||
I've been in the West Wing. | ||
A president of the United States has to confront every crisis facing America. | ||
I will put our nation back on the path to growth and prosperity and restore fiscal responsibility, just as I did in Congress and as governor and when I was vice president. | ||
You were named earlier. | ||
I'm going to get Vivek first. | ||
This isn't that complicated, guys. | ||
Unlock American energy. | ||
Drill frack. | ||
Burn coal. | ||
Embrace nuclear. | ||
Put people back to work by no longer paying them more to stay at home. | ||
Reform the U.S. Fed. | ||
Stabilize the U.S. dollar. | ||
And go to war. | ||
The only war that I will declare as U.S. President will be the war on the federal administrative state that is the source of those toxic regulations. | ||
Acting like a wet blanket on the economy. | ||
So I'm not sure I exactly understood Mike Pence's comment, but I'll let you all parse that out. | ||
For me, it's pretty simple. | ||
That's something a U.S. president can do with focus, and I'll deliver on it. | ||
Let me explain it to you. | ||
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Let me explain it to you. | |
Oh, man. | ||
OK, so my producer is in my ear telling me, yo, OK, one. | ||
Our ex-contacts are telling us that this Tucker Carlson Trump interview is going to break every single record in the history of Twitter. | ||
We will keep you posted on that. | ||
More importantly, you've got to play this one clip with Vivek and Pence. | ||
And this is like, this is game over for Mike Pence. | ||
Check this out. | ||
Let me explain it to you, Vivek, if I can. | ||
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I'll go slower this time. | |
with the reading comprehension. | ||
Look, I was a House conservative leader before it was cool. | ||
What a jackass. | ||
Oh, Mike Pence. | ||
Dude, what are you doing, man? | ||
What are you doing? | ||
Mike Pence is the guy who told Americans that, of course, he doesn't care about them. | ||
He cares far more about Ukraine. | ||
Not my concern, of course, the bumper sticker slogan for Mike Pence. | ||
Not my concern. | ||
You, me, your children, none of it's his concern. | ||
So Mike Pence being just a prick Prick on stage. | ||
Mike Pence was never that mean to Kamala Harris. | ||
Remember, Mike Pence debated Kamala Harris. | ||
Never that mean to Kamala Harris. | ||
Never took that tone with Kamala Harris. | ||
Where's the fly, Mike Pence? | ||
Well, Chris Christie ate it. | ||
So Crisp Crispy is up on stage. | ||
And Crisp Crispy got rolled out onto stage and is now going after Vivek. | ||
And this, according to my producer, is the best exchange of the night so far. | ||
There's been a little bit of a snooze fest. | ||
This is the one that you should have tuned into. | ||
And, ladies and gentlemen, after this, we're going to go live to the debate along with Team Benny here. | ||
We're going to be joined by some special guests. | ||
Here, check this out. | ||
Vivek Ranswamy versus Chris Chris. | ||
People are dying of bad climate change policies than they are of actual climate change. | ||
Governor Haley, are you bought and paid for it? | ||
Hold on, hold on. | ||
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Listen, listen, listen. | |
I've had enough. | ||
I've had enough already tonight of a guy who sounds like ChatGPT standing up here. | ||
And the last person in one of these debates, Brett, who stood in the middle of the stage and said, what's a skinny guy with an odd last name doing up here was Barack Obama, and I'm afraid we're dealing with the same type of amateur standing on stage tonight. | ||
The same type of amateur. | ||
And you'll help elect me just like you did to Obama, too. | ||
The same type of amateur. | ||
Hold on. | ||
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Hold on. | |
Did you hear that? | ||
They were cutting his mic! | ||
He goes, give me a hug! | ||
Just like you did to Obama! | ||
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Chris Christie calling the vague skinny? | |
What? | ||
This is bananas! | ||
Bananas! | ||
B-A-N-A-N-A-S. | ||
Crisp Crispy should eat. | ||
More of them. | ||
Ladies and gentlemen, now we have our debate, which will be on screen. | ||
It looks like it's during an ad right now. | ||
So, because it's during an ad, we're going to welcome our team in, of course, our producer, ALX the Great, ALX the Lord, along with Danny DeUrbina. | ||
He's going to hop on. | ||
What's going on? | ||
And I'm not sure if we have David or not ready, but... | ||
Yep, there he is. | ||
Oh, there we go. | ||
Okay, what's up, bros? | ||
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Yep. | |
Okay, so what have we missed? | ||
I've just been listening. | ||
I've been listening to the Trump-Tucker. | ||
I haven't been watching the debate. | ||
Can somebody fill me in on what's happened in the last hour? | ||
Yep, I'll tell you what. | ||
I got my four screens up. | ||
I'm monitoring the debate. | ||
I'm monitoring Tucker. | ||
And the fire came from Tucker. | ||
I mean, we saw him, like, Tucker and Trump, right? | ||
Tucker just roasted Kamala Harris, roasted Joe Biden for about, like, five minutes straight without taking a breath. | ||
And I would say that was some of the most exciting television I've seen in a while, but definitely tonight, just monitoring the debate. | ||
It's been pretty much a snooze fest. | ||
So is Vivek winning? | ||
Like, is he the walk-away winner right now of the debate? | ||
Yeah, if you just take, like, a 30-second scroll on Twitter, everyone's kind of saying that right now. | ||
He's taking up the most oxygen, getting in the right jab at the right time. | ||
Everyone else is kind of just saying those same talking points. | ||
That are passed down by DC consultants that don't really resonate with anyone. | ||
So I think Vivek is taking the clear lead right now. | ||
All right. | ||
Gentlemen, the Trump interview, ALX. | ||
What's up, man? | ||
You had an eight-hour dinner with Trump recently. | ||
Yes, sir. | ||
I think the best part was the Kamala Harris clip. | ||
Oh, my gosh. | ||
The she talks and rhymes thing. | ||
Oh, my gosh. | ||
So, so good. | ||
Tucker, you could tell, was holding in his belly laugh. | ||
But yeah, I will say with my eight-hour dinner thing, he did joke on electric cars in the same way that he was joking on them with Tucker. | ||
It's pretty funny to see. | ||
But yeah, far and away, I think the Kamala Harris line was probably the funniest. | ||
But out of the debate, I just want to say, like, Chris Christie trying to in-shape shame Vivek. | ||
Yeah, Chris Christie trying to... | ||
He body shames Vivek? | ||
He called him skinny. | ||
Why are you trying to in-shape shame somebody when you look like you're going to tip the entire stage over? | ||
I don't know, man. | ||
Like Guam, it's just going to capsize. | ||
Okay, question. | ||
Is Chris Crispy going to join Lizzo's dance team after this? | ||
Oh, man. | ||
Yeah, that should have been his walkout song, to be honest. | ||
Alright, we got some audio here. | ||
Let's check. | ||
I want to make sure that we can hear this debate and make sure that we got this because we do want to watch this. | ||
There's an hour left in this debate. | ||
We have a number of clips pulled. | ||
Here we go. | ||
So what question did they just ask? | ||
People are raising their hands, lowering them. | ||
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Here we go. | |
Here's the bottom line. | ||
Someone's got to stop normalizing this conduct. | ||
Okay? | ||
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I was talking about pardoning Trump. | |
Whether or not you believe that the criminal charges are right or wrong, the conduct is beneath the office of President of the United States. | ||
and you know this is the great thing about this country booing is allowed but it doesn't change the truth it doesn't Yeah. | ||
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Mr. Ramos-Longhi, you raised your hand supporting. | |
I'd like to get in and respond. | ||
Let's just speak the truth, okay? | ||
President Trump, I believe, was the best president of the 21st century. | ||
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It's a fact. | |
And Chris Christie, honest to God, Your claim that Donald Trump is motivated by vengeance and grievance would be a lot more credible if your entire campaign were not based on vengeance and grievance against one man. | ||
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Ooh, boy! | |
He's spitting fire tonight. | ||
Donald Trump without an iota of vision for this country, they could just change the channel to MSNBC right now. | ||
But I'm not running for president of MSNBC. | ||
I am running for president of the United States. | ||
We're skating on thin ice, and we cannot set a precedent where the party in power uses police force to indict its political opponents. | ||
It is wrong. | ||
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We have to end the representation of justice in this country. | |
You make me laugh because you sit here in an answer. | ||
You sit here and answer right... | ||
You sit here and answer. | ||
Go ahead, Governor Christie. | ||
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Hold on, Governor Christie. | |
Hold on. | ||
So listen, the more time we spend doing this, the less time they can talk about issues you want to talk about. | ||
So let's just get through this section. | ||
Governor Christie, you sit here talking about how you want to stand up for the rule of law. | ||
Yes. | ||
And law and order. | ||
And the fact is that it can't be selective. | ||
In your book, you had much different things to say about Donald Trump than you're saying here tonight. | ||
That's not true. | ||
Well, it is very true. | ||
That is not true. | ||
It's very true. | ||
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I read it, and I know— There's a difference between bad behavior and illegal behavior, Chris. | |
And you as a prosecutor should know better. | ||
You know what? | ||
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I know a lot better. | |
There's a difference between bad behavior. | ||
I know a lot better than you do. | ||
You've never done it like you've never done anything to try to advance the interests of this government except to put yourself forward as a candidate tonight. | ||
And here's the thing. | ||
We stood up for law and order. | ||
I did it as U.S. attorney. | ||
I did it as governor. | ||
And I am not going to bow to anyone when we have a president of the United States who disrespects the Constitution. | ||
He said— Martha, it's important to say that the president said, Donald Trump said, it's okay to suspend the Constitution. | ||
Now, the oath you take is to preserve, protect, and defend, not suspend. | ||
I will always stand up for our Constitution. | ||
We have another question for you. | ||
We're going to get everyone in on this issue, but I have another question. | ||
I have another question. | ||
Hold on, you will. | ||
All right, so President Trump's former vice president is on this show over his actions on January the 6th. | ||
On that day, the vice president moved forward with the certification of the election. | ||
So do you believe We should be asking ourselves a bigger question about the weaponization of the Department of Justice. | ||
When I'm president, the first thing I'll do is fire Merrick Garland. | ||
Second thing I'll do... | ||
Fire Christopher Wray because we need Lady Justice to wear a blindfold. | ||
Without that, no one has confidence in our justicism. | ||
17% of Republicans have confidence in our Department of Justice. | ||
Here's why. | ||
We keep seeing not only the weaponization of the Department of Justice against political opponents, but also against parents who show up at school board meetings. | ||
They're called under this deal, Jay. | ||
They're called domestic terrorists. | ||
Not only that, in addition to that, we see... | ||
The SWAT team show up at pro-life activist homes with guns drawn because this DOJ uses their power, uses their authority, not just against political opponents, but against conservatives and conservative causes. | ||
It is time for a change in America, and I will bring that change to the greatest nation on God's green earth. | ||
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We have an important question. | |
Governor DeSantis, do you believe that Mike Pence did the right thing on January 6th? | ||
So here's what we need to do. | ||
We need to end the weaponization of these federal agencies. | ||
That's not the question. | ||
I know, but here's the thing. | ||
This election is not about— It's about January 6th of 2021. | ||
It's about January 20th of 2025, when the next president is going to take office. | ||
I know what the Democrats would like to do. | ||
They want to talk about all these other issues, but we've got to focus on your future. | ||
We've got to focus on reversing the decline of our country. | ||
I learned in the military. | ||
I was assigned with U.S. Navy SEALs in Iraq. | ||
That you focus on the mission above all else. | ||
You can't get distracted. | ||
So, Republicans, we've got to look forward, and we've got to make sure that we're bringing the message that can win in November 2020. | ||
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What does that have to do about that? | |
What do you think, President, is to support and defend the Constitution of the United States? | ||
I think the American people deserve to know whether everyone on this stage agrees. | ||
That I kept my oath to the Constitution that day. | ||
There's no more important duty. | ||
So answer the question. | ||
I've answered this before. | ||
Mike did his duty. | ||
I got no beef with him. | ||
But here's the thing. | ||
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Is this what we're going to be focusing on going forward? | |
The rehashing of this? | ||
I'll tell you, the Democrats would love that. | ||
And they will win if we let him get away with it. | ||
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I'm not letting Brian hang out in the basement this time. | |
We're going to run him racket around this country, and we're going to hold him accountable. | ||
Let me just say, Governor DeSantis, we spent an hour talking about policy. | ||
Former President Trump is beating you by 30, 40 points in many polls. | ||
So it is a factor in the GOP primary. | ||
Governor Hutchinson, you did not raise your hand. | ||
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I did not raise my hand because there's an important issue we as a party have to face. | |
And over a year ago, I said that Donald Trump was morally disqualified from being president again as a result of what happened on January 6th. | ||
More people are understanding the importance of that, including conservative legal scholars who says he may be disqualified under the 14th Amendment from being president again as a result of the insurrection. | ||
This is something that could disqualify him. | ||
What a cock! | ||
I'm so tired of these cock rhinos! | ||
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Boo! | |
Who are you? | ||
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Obviously, I'm not going to support somebody who's been convicted of a serious felony or who is disqualified under our Constitution. | |
And that's consistent with RNC rules. | ||
And I hope everybody would agree with that. | ||
That guy wouldn't sign legislation protecting children from mutilation in Arkansas. | ||
She's letting you know who's the actual criminal. | ||
I'd like to answer the question you asked and not give a pre-canned speech. | ||
Mike? | ||
He would know something about pre-canning. | ||
Always talking about food. | ||
And he deserves not grudging credit. | ||
He deserves our thanks as Americans for putting his oath of office and the Constitution of the United States before personal, political, and unfair pressure. | ||
And the argument that we need to have in this party, before we can move on to the issues that Ron talked about, is we have to dispense with the person who said that we need to suspend the Constitution to put forward his political career. | ||
Mike Pence said no, and he deserves credit for it. | ||
Okay. | ||
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Governor Haley, we haven't heard from you on this. | |
Do you agree? | ||
Do you agree that Vice President Pence did the right thing that day or not? | ||
I do think that Vice President Pence did the right thing, and I do think that we need to give him credit for that. | ||
But what I will also tell you is, look, I mean, when it comes to whether President Trump should serve or not, I trust the American people. | ||
Let them vote. | ||
Let them decide. | ||
But what they will tell you is that it is time for a new generational conservative leader. | ||
We have to look at the fact that— Three-quarters of Americans don't want a rematch between Trump and Biden. | ||
And we have to face the fact that Trump is the most disliked politician in America. | ||
We can't win a general election that way. | ||
Are these people Democrats? | ||
They're all Democrats. | ||
Happy to answer the question. | ||
Mike Pence did the right thing on January 6th. | ||
But I want to say, you started off the top of this hour saying we're going to talk about China, Ukraine, education. | ||
We are. | ||
China is the number one threat to our country. | ||
And every minute that these eight candidates spend talking about the past instead of about the future is time that is just... | ||
You know who loves it? | ||
Biden loves it. | ||
But China loves it when we're talking about the past. | ||
Who let Gordon Gekko on stage? | ||
Let people say what they want to say. | ||
And now, indeed, we are moving on to the subject... | ||
The U.S. has committed nearly 77... | ||
Can I speak on this issue? | ||
I was kind of involved. | ||
You did answer on this. | ||
You did say something. | ||
We thought you were done, but you... | ||
No, I wasn't done. | ||
Well, Mike, why don't you say this? | ||
Join me in making a commitment that on day one you would pardon Donald Trump. | ||
I'm the only candidate on the stage who had the courage to actually say it. | ||
That is how we move our nation forward. | ||
I don't know why you assume that Donald Trump will be convicted of these crimes. | ||
You should be able to make a commitment, the same justice system that was this corrupt. | ||
That's the difference between you and me. | ||
I'm not a professional politician. | ||
That's the difference. | ||
You can answer a question. | ||
I've actually given pardons when I was governor of the state of Indiana. | ||
It usually follows a finding of guilt and control. | ||
You know, it's not about looking back at January 2021. | ||
It's about January 20th, 2017. | ||
I put my left hand on Ronald Reagan's Bible. | ||
I raised my right hand. | ||
And I took an oath. | ||
To support and defend the Constitution of the United States. | ||
And it ended with a prayer. | ||
So help me God. | ||
It was a promise that I made to the American people. | ||
His script writers are great. | ||
It made it to my Heavenly Father. | ||
Every day for four years, I sought to keep that oath. | ||
And everyone on this stage needs to make it clear whether or not they'll do the same if they earn this job and the confidence of the American people. | ||
Look, I've made it clear. | ||
I had hoped That the issues surrounding the 2020 election and the controversies around January 6th had not come to this, had not come to criminal proceedings. | ||
I would rather they had been resolved by the American people and the American people alone. | ||
But no one's above the law, and President Trump is entitled to the presumption of innocence that every American is entitled to, and we will make sure and extend that to him. | ||
But the American people deserve to know that the president asked me, In his request that I reject or return votes unilaterally, power that no vice president in American history had ever exercised or taken. | ||
That's not true. | ||
He asked me to put him over the Constitution. | ||
And I chose the Constitution, and I always will. | ||
I had no right to overturn the election. | ||
Release the flies. | ||
Where's the fly? | ||
Come on. | ||
Release the flies. | ||
We beat them in 2024. | ||
Thank you, Vice President Pence. | ||
Lord of the flies. | ||
Now we are moving on. | ||
Two other issues. | ||
The U.S. has committed nearly $77 billion in aid to the Ukraine war. | ||
The administration is now asking Congress for $24 billion more. | ||
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Regardless of the specifics of that plan, is there anyone on stage who would not support the increase of more funding to Ukraine? | ||
We would not support it. | ||
Europe needs to step up. | ||
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I mean, I would have Europe step up and do this job. | |
Mr. Armstrong, you're saying you would not too, Governor DeSantis? | ||
I will have Europe pull their weight. | ||
Right now, they're not doing that. | ||
And I think our support should be contingent on them doing it. | ||
And I would have support in China to be able to take China and do what we need to do with China. | ||
Mr. Ramaswamy, you would not support an increase of funding to Ukraine. | ||
I would not. | ||
And I think that this is disastrous that we are protecting against an invasion across somebody's border when we should use those same military resources to prevent across the invasion of our own southern border here in the United States of America. | ||
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We are driving Russia into China's hands. | |
The Russia-China alliance is the single greatest threat we face. | ||
And I find it offensive that we have professional politicians on the stage that will make a pilgrimage to Kiev, to their Pope, Zelensky, without doing the same thing for people in Maui or the south side of Chicago or Kensington. | ||
I think that we have to put the interests of Americans first. | ||
Secure our own border instead of somebody else's. | ||
And the reality is, this is also how we... | ||
I did go to Ukraine, and I went to Ukraine because I wanted to see for myself what Vladimir Putin's army was doing to the free Ukrainian people. | ||
And let me tell you, I want you all to look around this arena tonight and imagine that every one of these seats was filled. | ||
And if every one of them was filled, there would still be 2,500 more children outside to make over 20,000 who have been abducted, stolen, ripped from their mothers and fathers, and brought back to Russia to be programmed to fight their own families. | ||
They have gouged out people's eyes, cut off their ears, and shot people in the back of the head, men, and then gone into those homes and raped the daughters and the wives who were left as widows and orphans. | ||
If we don't stand up against this type of autocratic killing in the world, we will be next. | ||
I have a question for Governor Haley. | ||
Vice President Pence was mentioned. | ||
You get 30 seconds. | ||
Yeah, well, let me be clear. | ||
Anybody that thinks that we can't solve the problems here in the United States and be the leader of the free world has a pretty small view of the greatest nation on Earth. | ||
That is incorrect. | ||
We can do both, Vivek. | ||
We've done both. | ||
We've been the leader of the free world and the arsenal of democracy for years. | ||
The Reagan doctrine years ago made it clear. | ||
We said, if you're willing to fight the communists on your soil, we'll give you the means to fight them there so our troops don't have to fight them. | ||
Vivek, if we do the giveaway that you want to give to Putin to give him his land, it's not going to be too long before he rolls across a NATO border, and frankly, our men and women of our armed forces are going to have to go and fight him. | ||
I want to let the Ukrainians fight. | ||
I want to just briefly address Pence, Vice President Pence. | ||
I have a newsflash. | ||
The USSR does not exist anymore. | ||
It fell back in 1990. | ||
It's a real threat. | ||
You talked about the communists. | ||
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And the real communists that we have to address right now— Do you not have any idea what Vladimir Putin's aims are? | |
You already spoke. | ||
Now I access it. | ||
Vladimir Putin has been saying he wants to reestablish the old Soviet sphere of influence. | ||
You've made your point, Vice President. | ||
I insulted him by calling him a communist. | ||
He is a dictator and a murderer. | ||
And the United States of America needs to stand against authoritarianism. | ||
Mr. Ramos-Ramme, 37. respond. | ||
The real threat we face today is communist China, and we are driving Russia further into China's arms. | ||
The Russia-China military alliance is the single greatest threat we face. | ||
Nobody in either political party is talking about it, and I am the only non-Bernio con on this stage. | ||
But keep us out of war. | ||
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Mr. Vice President, we can't hear Mr. Vice President. | |
Oh, my God. | ||
I promise that Ukraine will never be in NATO. | ||
And then somehow, China will not think about taking Taiwan. | ||
We achieve peace through strength. | ||
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And America needs to stand for freedom. | |
China's not his concern, I guess. | ||
He's the Dylan Mulvaney of the debate stage. | ||
So, Mr. Vice President, we appreciate your aggressiveness here. | ||
30 seconds is 30 seconds. | ||
Mr. Ramaswamy, you were mentioned. | ||
You get 30 seconds. | ||
The reality is that today, Ukraine is not a priority for the United States of America. | ||
And I think that the same people who took us into the Iraq War, the same people who took us into the Vietnam War, you cannot end it. | ||
You cannot start another no-win war. | ||
And I do not want to get to the point where we're sending our military resources abroad when we could be better using them here at home to protect our own borders, protect the homeland. | ||
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That will be my top priority in foreign policy. | ||
I think we gave you more than the 30 seconds in the rebound. | ||
So I do want to get to some other people because everybody, we respect everybody's time here. | ||
Governor Haley, you did not raise your hand, meaning that you would support more funding for the Ukraine war. | ||
You have said of Governor DeSantis that you didn't appreciate it when he initially called it a territorial dispute. | ||
Why? | ||
First of all, the American president needs to have moral clarity. | ||
They need to know the difference between right and wrong. | ||
They need to know the difference between good and evil. | ||
When you look at the situation with Russia and Ukraine, here you have a pro-American country that was invaded by a thug. | ||
So when you want to talk about what has been given to Ukraine, less than 3.5% That's too much! | ||
per GDP 11 of the European countries have given more than the US but what's really important is go back to when China and Russia held hands shook hands before the Olympics and named themselves unlimited partners a win for Russia is a win for China we have to know that Ukraine is the first line of defense for us and the problem that Vivek doesn't understand is He wants to hand Ukraine to Russia. | ||
He wants to let China eat Taiwan. | ||
He wants to go and stop funding Israel. | ||
You don't do that to friends. | ||
What you do instead is you have the backs of your friends. | ||
Ukraine is a front line of defense. | ||
Putin has said, once Russia takes Ukraine, Poland and the Baltics are next. | ||
That's a world war. | ||
We're trying to prevent war. | ||
Look at what Putin did today. | ||
He killed Pergozin. | ||
When I was at the U.N., the Russian ambassador suddenly died. | ||
This guy is a murderer and you are choosing a murderer over a total American country. | ||
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First of all, first of all, Mr. Ramaswamy, you have 30 seconds. | |
Mr. DeSantis, I wish you well in your future career on the boards of Lockheed and Raytheon. | ||
I'm not on the boards of Lockheed. | ||
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Yes! | |
On the Boeing board! | ||
Okay, let me address that. | ||
I'm glad you brought that up. | ||
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I'm going to address each of those right now. | |
This is the false noise of a professional competition. | ||
You are like America, Lessa. | ||
You have no foreign policy experience, and it shows. | ||
And you know what? | ||
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The foreign policy experience that you already have shows in the pointless words we've gotten into after wrestling. | |
So our relationship with Israel will never be stronger than by the end of my first term. | ||
But it's not a client relationship. | ||
It is a friendship. | ||
And you know what friends do? | ||
Friends help each other stand on their own two feet. | ||
So I will lead Abraham Accords 2.0. | ||
I will partner with Israel to make sure Iran never is nuclear armed. | ||
But you know what I love about Israel? | ||
And I've been there probably in the last 10 years more than most people on this stage. | ||
You know what I love about them? | ||
I love their border policies. | ||
I love their tough-on-crime policies. | ||
I love that they have a national identity and an iron dome to protect their homeland. | ||
And so, yes, I want to learn from the friends that we're supporting. | ||
And what puzzles me is, no, I want to learn from those and apply those to protect our homeland. | ||
It's not that Israel needs America. | ||
America needs Israel. | ||
Okay, Governor DeSantis, Governor DeSantis, you were mentioned in the territorial dispute. | ||
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Not only— No, it's not a territorial dispute either. | |
As president of the United States. | ||
Your first obligation is to defend our country and its people. | ||
And that means you're sending all this money, but you're not doing what we need to do to secure our own border. | ||
We have tens of thousands of people who are being killed because we're not handling votes. | ||
And so I am going to declare it a national emergency. | ||
I'm not going to send troops to Ukraine, but I am going to send them to our southern border. | ||
When these drug pushers are bringing fentanyl across the border, that's going to be the last thing they do. | ||
We're going to use force and we're going to leave them stone cold dead. | ||
We're actually going to move on to China. | ||
We're going to talk about China. | ||
Okay. | ||
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Somebody said in the comments, no wonder Trump didn't want to be there. | |
Now they have warships off the coast of Alaska. | ||
They are threatening Taiwan. | ||
In coming years, China will have 1,500 nuclear warheads, it's believed. | ||
The U.S. just arrested two sailors accused of spying for China within our military. | ||
So the question is, how would you deter China as a President Berger? | ||
Well, this is the number one issue we're facing. | ||
We haven't been talking about it, and we act like that letting Russia win in Ukraine is like a gimme as opposed to a gift to China. | ||
Russia has become China's gas station. | ||
But how would we do it? | ||
The Biden administration is a complete fail. | ||
China imports 10 million barrels of oil a day more than any other country in the world. | ||
They do not even have all the food they need to feed everybody in that country. | ||
So they don't have energy security or food security. | ||
But the Biden administration sends Blinken, Yellen over there. | ||
They don't even bring up energy because they're too busy trying to kill the U.S. energy here. | ||
And what we need to do is not meetings, not press releases, because something that would send a lot more than a press release is actually harpoon missiles. | ||
We need anti-ship missiles on Taiwan. | ||
The way that you have a war never start, which is the goal, the way you have peace through strength, is that you actually have strength. | ||
You actually have deterrence. | ||
And what we have in what we've got going on in Ukraine is an example of when deterrence fail. | ||
What is an example there of Biden's disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan? | ||
The fact that he green lighted Putin moving into Ukraine. | ||
We have to be strong, and we have to be strong both in Ukraine and we can solve the southern border. | ||
Absolutely, we can do that. | ||
Because guess what? | ||
There's only 19,855 authorized people for the Border Patrol. | ||
But they're not all staffed because the Biden administration doesn't enforce law enforcement. | ||
But Biden administration... | ||
We wanted to put 87,000 people in the IRS as opposed to giving the money in this fort we need to our own Border Patrol. | ||
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Thank you, Tommy Hilfiger. | |
Let's fire the 87,000 IRS agents and hire or double the number of Border Patrol agents. | ||
I just left Yuma, Arizona about two weeks ago. | ||
The most pressing need of the American people from a national security standpoint is our southern border. | ||
It has led to the death of 70,000 Americans because of fentanyl, plus 6 million illegal crossings since President Biden has taken office, and 200 people on our national security watch list have been caught at our border. | ||
How many? | ||
Have not been caught at our southern border. | ||
If we just spend $10 billion, we could finish the wall. | ||
For $5 billion more, we could have the military-grade technology to surveil our southern border to stop the flow of fentanyl and save 70,000 Americans a year. | ||
That should be the priority of this government. | ||
And as the next president of the United States, I will make that border wall. | ||
There are many more questions on China. | ||
I do want to ask about it. | ||
I want to say I couldn't agree more. | ||
It's not just the 70,000 from fentanyl. | ||
We've lost 200,000 people to overdoses since Biden took office. | ||
That's 300 people a day. | ||
We're taking mass casualties, and that's a statistic, but these are sons and daughters, nieces and nephews that we're losing. | ||
We've got North Dakota troops down there flying night helicopter missions from San Diego to the Gulf Coast trying to stop these transnational criminal organizations. | ||
They've got better funding on there. | ||
What a prick! | ||
Brett Baier said, I'm speaking! | ||
Do you consider this an invasion? | ||
Would you authorize lethal force along that border? | ||
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There would be lethal force used by the Border Patrol law enforcement as needed to protect the border. | |
Absolutely. | ||
When you look at the military, the military has to be used for intelligence-gathering purposes. | ||
This is not unusual. | ||
Whenever I was in the Bush administration... | ||
We went down there and met with President Vincente Fox of Mexico and asked his help on going after the cartels. | ||
And he looked at me and said, they're a problem to us as well. | ||
And so we joined together and we took down the Ariana Felix brothers leading the Tijuana cartel. | ||
And that made a difference. | ||
Ramon was shot and killed and Ben Amin was captured. | ||
cooperation makes a difference. | ||
We cannot be successful going against the cartel unless... | ||
We bring in Mexico as a partner. | ||
We have to use economic pressure to accomplish that. | ||
President Obrador has not been helpful. | ||
And we have to use economic pressure that this administration is not using. | ||
The rule of law has to matter on both sides of it. | ||
This is critical. | ||
I've done it. | ||
We know what needs to be done. | ||
The military has to be limited in its use. | ||
After 9-11, we had the global war on terror. | ||
And guess what? | ||
We protected the border at the same time. | ||
You can do both. | ||
Okay, let's go to Governor DeSantis. | ||
Just like your come-over does both. | ||
So, as president, would you support sending U.S. special forces over the border into Mexico to take out fentanyl labs, to take out drug cartel operations? | ||
Would you support that kind of American military use? | ||
Yes, and I will do it on day one. | ||
Here's the thing. | ||
The cartels are killing tens of thousands of our fellow citizens. | ||
You want to talk about a country in decline? | ||
You have the cartels controlling a lot of part of your southern border. | ||
We have to reestablish the rule of law, and we have to defend our people. | ||
The president of the United States has got to use all available powers as commander-in-chief. | ||
To protect our country and to protect the people. | ||
So when they're coming across, yes, we're going to use lethal force. | ||
Yes, we reserve the right to operate. | ||
How many more tens of thousands are we going to let to die? | ||
I am sick. | ||
I've met angel moms throughout this country. | ||
I met a lady in Texas named Tracy, and her son took one Percocet that was laced with fentanyl, immediately died. | ||
That is happening all across this country because of the poison that they are bringing in. | ||
So as president, would I use force? | ||
Would I treat them as foreign terrorist organizations? | ||
You're darn right I would. | ||
Vice President Pence, why would you be better at this issue than Governor DeSantis? | ||
Governor DeSantis on the campaign trail refers to your administration as not finishing the wall. | ||
Right, right. | ||
Look. | ||
We secured the southern border of the United States of America and reduced illegal immigration and asylum abuse by 90%. | ||
So put Trump back in office. | ||
Joe Biden took over. | ||
He threw open the southern border of the United States. | ||
And the wave of humanity, the wave of fentanyl that's been eloquently described here is a wave of human tragedy across this country. | ||
But, Martha, you began this evening talking about who is best prepared to be the next president of the United States. | ||
Donald Trump. | ||
I have to tell you, with all humility, I was there when we negotiated through the government shutdown and got the funding available to build the wall. | ||
I was negotiating on Capitol Hill around the clock. | ||
I negotiated the Remain in Mexico policy on behalf of the President of the United States. | ||
And A.C., you're so right. | ||
It's because we used economic pressure to bring the Mexicans to the table, and they allowed us to have people wait in Mexico while they applied for asylum and ended asylum abuse overnight. | ||
We got the Mexicans to deploy their National Guard to their southern border and to our southern border as never. | ||
And I want to promise you, as President of the United States of America, I will engage Mexico the exact same way, and we will partner with the Mexican military, and we will hunt down and destroy the cartels that are claiming lives in the United States of America. | ||
Okay, thank you. | ||
Another issue that is related to this... | ||
Yeah, Donald Trump did all that. | ||
Mike Pence did nothing. | ||
The 7 million migrants have crossed this border, our southern border, during the Biden administration. | ||
So, Governor Christie, what would you do about the 7 million who are here? | ||
Look, Martha... | ||
Chris Christie would sit on the border and close it. | ||
...is to stop anymore from coming. | ||
That's the first thing we need to do. | ||
Then the next thing we need to do with the folks that are here is to, again, as we've talked about all night tonight, we have to have law and order in this country. | ||
We have to enforce the law. | ||
And what that means is to make sure that people who come here illegally are not rewarded for being here illegally. | ||
We have so many wonderful people from around the world who are waiting in line, following the law, to try to come here and pursue the American dream. | ||
And those people are waiting and waiting and waiting because we haven't dealt with the problem of the folks who are here. | ||
We have to have them detained. | ||
We have to make sure that they are not rewarded for having broken the law. | ||
And one last thing on this fentanyl issue. | ||
With China, we can't take our eye off of that ball. | ||
Yes, it's important that we secure the border. | ||
Very important, as I just said. | ||
But China is sending these chemicals to these drug cartels for them to create the fentanyl that is killing hundreds of thousands of our citizens. | ||
The Chinese are engaging in an act of war against us, killing our citizens. | ||
We better make that priority one in our conversations with China and to try to straighten that relationship out, because if we don't, we're going to lose more and more of our citizens. | ||
I just want to clarify. | ||
Would you send those people back? | ||
Of course. | ||
You'd have to. | ||
We have a lot of issues that Americans care about. | ||
Next up, we're going to talk about the crisis in education, as millions of American children are not proficient in reading or math after this. | ||
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Next up, we're going to talk about the crisis in education, as millions of Americans have been in education, as millions of Americans have been in education. | |
Do you trust our government and where the economy is heading? | ||
All right, ladies and gentlemen, here we go. | ||
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We're going to mute this. | ||
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There we go. | |
Nope. | ||
All right. | ||
Okay. | ||
It's coming. | ||
There we go. | ||
There we go. | ||
All right. | ||
Vivek, man. | ||
They're all coming after Vivek. | ||
He had a little Trump moment with the question about Ukraine funding, where, you know, the signature when Trump was the only one raising his hand. | ||
I mean, it was a totally different question. | ||
But, I mean, for him to be the only one to firmly raise his hand and say, I'm not for increasing Ukraine funding, I mean, it really sets him apart. | ||
That was deeply based. | ||
The exchange with Chris Christie was just absolute brawl. | ||
Yeah, Christie really has it out for Vivek. | ||
I mean, they all do, but I mean, especially Christie, it seems like. | ||
But yeah, I think that was probably the most defining moment of what we just saw in that little segment there was the Ukraine funding issue. | ||
What does that say about Vivek, man? | ||
That means he's the Trump cutout, right? | ||
That means that Vivek is the Trump cutout. | ||
So they're attacking him the way they would attack Donald Trump. | ||
Correct. | ||
He's taking the form of Trump, essentially. | ||
And then also, I'd say that, like Trump, he isn't afraid to go full in on an issue. | ||
There is no little wavering, half-raising hand. | ||
He says, nope, this is what I believe, and this is why I believe it. | ||
It's a full-raised hand, and he's going to stand by his convictions. | ||
And that's what the GOP needs, because, you know... | ||
Everyone else on the stage is kind of just, you know, half-assing their answers and putting their foot in the water without diving in completely and just sticking to their convictions. | ||
So he's the only, like, Trump-esque candidate and, you know, leader that I'm seeing on the stage right now. | ||
And it's not even close. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
Even when, like, they asked if he would pardon Trump, everyone else kind of, like, looked around. | ||
They, you know, did the side-to-side thing, see who was raising their hand. | ||
They had it all the way up. | ||
He was not hesitating. | ||
I think that shows. | ||
What this debate shows is what the GOP would look like without Trump. | ||
There's a lot of those cookie-cutter, boilerplate answers that we've been getting for about a thousand years. | ||
My consultant says! | ||
My consultant says! | ||
Exactly. | ||
I think this is a good crystallization moment to see what it would look like if Trump wasn't on the stage, which he's not right now. | ||
I think it's funny, too. | ||
I was going to say Chris Christie calling Vivek the chat GPT candidate. | ||
It's like, no, I would say, you know, Pence has more of the chat GPT answers. | ||
Those are like, you know, cookie cutter, GOP consultant crafted answers. | ||
That's exactly right. | ||
He has a fly whisper in his ear. | ||
It's like the pantomime Ronald, like a poor man's Ronald Reagan. | ||
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Strength through the peace, we shall do it together. | |
It's so, so cringeworthy. | ||
Here we go. | ||
Here's the moment, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
They're asked, hey, yo, would you pardon Donald Trump? | ||
Check it out. | ||
Please raise your hand if you would. | ||
Governor Christie, you were kind of late to the game there, but you raised your hand? | ||
No, I'm doing this. | ||
Look. | ||
Okay, that was Vivek. | ||
That was Vivek actually raising his hand and then keeping it up. | ||
That's the shot of the night right there. | ||
Would you pardon Donald Trump? | ||
Okay, we are back live. | ||
Exposing chronic absenteeism. | ||
Ladies and gentlemen. | ||
Deep declines for reading and math for 15-year-olds and 13-year-olds. | ||
Governor DeSantis, you would eliminate, you said, the Department of Education. | ||
But as president, would you still have a responsibility to fix this crisis as we see it? | ||
Absolutely. | ||
The decline in education is one of the major reasons why our country is in decline. | ||
We need education in this country, not indoctrination in this country. | ||
And in Florida... | ||
Florida, we stood up for what was right. | ||
First, we had schools open during COVID, and a lot of the problems that we've seen are because these lockdown states lock their kids out of school for a year, year and a half. | ||
That was wrong. | ||
We stood up. | ||
I took a lot of fire for that. | ||
I was pilloried by the media, but I stood for our kids. | ||
And as president, I'll stand for you and your kids as well. | ||
But we have to make sure that what our schools are doing is focusing on solid academics. | ||
In Florida, we eliminated critical race theory from our K-12 school. | ||
We eliminated gender ideology from our K-12 schools. | ||
And we have elevated the importance of American civics in teaching our kids about the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. | ||
As president, I'm going to lead an effort to increase civic understanding and knowledge of our Constitution. | ||
We cannot be graduating students that don't have any foundation in what it means to be an American. | ||
Mr. Ramaswamy, hold on, Senator Scott. | ||
You've said that the Department of Education, the FBI, the ATF, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, the IRS, the Department of Commerce, many of these should not exist. | ||
That's correct. | ||
So, to the education question, how would you deal with the crisis? | ||
So, look, we have a crisis of achievement. | ||
Let's shut down the head of the snake, the Department of Education. | ||
Take that $80 billion. | ||
Put it in the hands of parents across this country. | ||
This is the civil rights issue of our time. | ||
Allow any parent to choose where they send their kids to school. | ||
End the teachers' unions at the local level to allow public schools to compete. | ||
And then revive our national identity where every high school senior should have to pass the same civics test that, frankly, every immigrant, including my mother, had to pass in order to become a citizen of this country. | ||
And the fact of the matter is, look, there's part of education policy that also rests with the family. | ||
I didn't grow up in money. | ||
But you know the word privilege gets used a lot? | ||
Well, you know what? | ||
I did have the ultimate privilege of two parents in the house with a focus on educational achievement. | ||
And I want every kid to enjoy that. | ||
So part of the problem is we also have a federal government that pays single women more not to have a man in the house than to have a man in the house, contributing to an epidemic of fatherlessness. | ||
And I think that goes hand in glove with the education crisis as well, because we have to remember education starts with the family and the nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to mankind. | ||
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So, Governor Vargas. | |
Governor Haley has said that biological boys playing in girls sports is the women's issue of our time. | ||
You said that even though you signed a ban on this in North Dakota, that there hadn't been one instance where it was actually needed. | ||
Are you saying that you think that too much is made of this issue? | ||
No, I'm saying in North Dakota, we made a priority of protecting women's sports, and we've done that in our state. | ||
But I would absolutely do that. | ||
But I do think when we start talking about education and we think that we're going to have a federal government, one size fits all, we're just completely losing track of the fact that education differs by state. | ||
Some school districts are doing a fantastic job, some less so. | ||
But the idea that every school district, state, and every teacher is somehow indoctrinating people is just false. | ||
You know, when I was building a company from scratch, you know, with small town kids, and we went, you know, grew up in a town of 300, but we built a global company in 132 countries with over 100,000 customers. | ||
We listened to those customers. | ||
We spent time with them. | ||
We talked to them. | ||
We did that. | ||
And as governor... | ||
Education is one of the biggest part of a state budget. | ||
So as a governor, I go. | ||
I shadow a student. | ||
The night before I find out the student finds out, I'm going to go to every class with them. | ||
I don't sit and lecture school districts how to do it. | ||
I go and see the experience. | ||
And there's a lot of things that have to change. | ||
But what needs to change in education is innovation. | ||
We're doing it the same way we did it 50 years ago with innovation, not regulation. | ||
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Somebody said, hello, Kermit, and I can't unhear it. | |
But I'd give them on merit based on who's doing the most innovative. | ||
I just got done holding the 7th Annual Governor's Conference on Innovation and Education. | ||
You should see what the people are doing when you cut loose the red tape, get the burden off their back. | ||
They care. | ||
Teachers in this country, the vast majority of them care about those kids. | ||
They're working in low-paying jobs, and they're fighting for those kids and their families. | ||
This guy should donate his eyebrows to the border wall. | ||
First, I'll tell you, as you know... | ||
As a parent, the one thing you want is for your child to have a better life than you did. | ||
And we can talk about all of these things, and there's a lot of crazy, woke things happening in schools, but we've got to get these kids reading. | ||
If a child can't read by third grade, they're four times less likely to graduate high school. | ||
So we need to make sure we bring in reading remediation all over this country. | ||
We need transparency in the classroom because parents should never have to wonder what's being said or taught to their children in the classroom. | ||
Parents need to be deciding which schools their kids go to because they know best. | ||
And let's put vocational classes back into the high schools. | ||
Let's teach our kids to build things again. | ||
When we do that and we allow that innovation, that's when it'll get back. | ||
And yes, I will always say I'm going to fight for girls all day long because... | ||
Strong girls become strong women. | ||
Strong women become strong leaders. | ||
And biological boys don't belong in the locker rooms of any of our kids. | ||
Remember the lines that were given to me. | ||
To you, Vice President. | ||
So this is a lightning round of questions. | ||
30-second answers, please. | ||
President Biden will be 82 years old on Inauguration Day. | ||
Nearly 70 percent of Americans say that he is too old to serve. | ||
Should presidents have to pass a mental and physical test in order to serve Vice President Pence? | ||
Well, it might be a good idea to have everybody in Washington, D.C. pass a mental test. | ||
30 seconds, no. | ||
The American people can make those judgments. | ||
But let me say, I'm running for president of the United States because we don't need a president who's too old. | ||
And we don't need a president who's too young. | ||
We need a president who's been there. | ||
We need a president who knows how Congress works, how the White House works, how states work. | ||
We need Goldilocks. | ||
I was fighting against No Child Left Behind when Republicans were doubling the Department of Education. | ||
I'll also shut down the Federal Department of Education. | ||
And when I was governor, we doubled the size of the largest school choice program in America. | ||
And we'll give school choice to every family in America. | ||
This is a lightning round, Mr. Ramaswamy. | ||
I think you were mentioned there. | ||
You're 38. You're the youngest on the stage. | ||
You've said, and you just said, you want a civics test or public service for those under 25 to be able to vote. | ||
I believe in the people of this country to tell the difference between somebody who's an automaton and somebody who's actually a thinking agent in the White House, which we don't have in there today. | ||
And I will tell you, I want to address Vice President Pence's comment. | ||
I think we do need... | ||
...to lead this nation forward. | ||
Look at the way I've run this campaign. | ||
Going to the south side of Chicago, to Kensington, in the middle of Philadelphia, where traditional Republican candidates don't go. | ||
We have an opportunity to build a multi-ethnic, working-class majority to deliver a landslide, and I think I'm the only candidate in this race, young or old, black or white, to bring all of those voters along to deliver a Reagan 1980 revolution. | ||
We're going to do it in 2024. | ||
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Same question back. | |
How can we now vote in a presidential election? | ||
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So based. | |
So based. | ||
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30 seconds. | |
30 seconds. | ||
We're getting control of the debate. | ||
This is a lightning round, not rolling thunder. | ||
Governor Hutchinson, you have 30 seconds on the same question. | ||
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On education, first of all, look at Arkansas. | |
We have to compete with China. | ||
I built computer science education. | ||
We led the nation in computer science education, going from 1,100 students to 23,000 students taking it. | ||
This is how you compete with China. | ||
As President of the United States, I will make sure we go from 51% of our schools offering computer science to every school in rural areas and urban areas offering computer science for the benefit of our kids, Thank you, sir. | ||
This is coming to you. | ||
We're trying to do a quick round of different topics here. | ||
So, Senator Scott, faith is on decline in this country. | ||
You talked about it a little bit before tonight. | ||
So is there a role for a president of the United States in changing that? | ||
What would you do to change that? | ||
Well, our nation was founded upon the Judeo-Christian values that has made this the greatest nation on God's green earth. | ||
I'm a big believer in Ephesians 3.20 that God is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or imagine. | ||
Our responsibility should be to model the behavior we want others to follow. | ||
On education. | ||
The only way we change education in this nation is to break the backs of the teachers' unions. | ||
They are standing in the doorhouse of our kids, locking them into failing schools and locking them out of the greatest future they could have. | ||
As President and Governor DeSantis, would you support some mandatory military service for all Americans? | ||
I think it should be voluntary. | ||
I'm somebody that volunteered to serve, inspired by September 11th. | ||
And I deployed to Iraq alongside U.S. Navy SEALs in places like Fallujah, Ramadi. | ||
And it's something that I think has taught me, you know, when you go in that type of environment, anything you have, your personal agenda, you check it at the door. | ||
You go there, and it's about focusing on the mission above all else. | ||
And guys come together, and they get it done. | ||
And that's how I would view Being the president of the United States. | ||
It's not about me. | ||
It's not about all these other side issues. | ||
My sole focus will be on your future and reversing this country's decline. | ||
Okay, now for something a little out of this world, and this is for you, Governor Christie. | ||
Do you believe that the recent spike in UFO encounters— I get the UFO question? | ||
Yeah, you do. | ||
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Come on, man. | |
There you go. | ||
Okay, we've been hearing a lot of testimony in Congress, and people are taking this a lot more seriously. | ||
And we're hearing that there are things going on that people aren't aware of. | ||
Shut up, you clown. | ||
Governor Christie, would you level with the American people about what the government knows Look, Martha, and especially coming from a woman from New Jersey. | ||
I think it's horrible that just because I'm from New Jersey, you asked me about unidentified flying objects and Martians. | ||
We're different, but we're not that different. | ||
Look, of course, the job of the President of the United States is to level with the American people about everything. | ||
The job of the President of the United States is to stand for truth. | ||
Chris Christie could level everything. | ||
The job of the President of the United States is to be a role model for our children and our grandchildren. | ||
And so whether it was UFOs or this problem of education, and Tim's right, by the way, and I started this in 2010 by going right after the teachers' unions in New Jersey and drove them down to an all-time low popularity rating because they were putting themselves before our kids. | ||
It's the biggest threat to our country, not UFOs. | ||
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Chris Christie is an unidentified object. | |
Chris Christie is definitely a role model as well. | ||
Different kind, though. | ||
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...with reaction from all the candidates as soon as they step off the stage. | |
We'll be back after this. | ||
All right. | ||
Mute, mute, mute. | ||
Did it work? | ||
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Okay, good. | |
It worked this time. | ||
Oh, man. | ||
Okay, so I can't get over this, that Vivek is the cutout for Trump. | ||
They made Vivek Trump. | ||
That's what's going on here. | ||
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Well, is DeSantis even in this debate? | |
I mean, when this whole campaign cycle started, it really was positioned as Trump versus DeSantis, and then everybody else was kind of, you know... | ||
At the end. | ||
And now Vivek is just surging. | ||
And I mean, they clearly have it out for him. | ||
And he's dominating the debate. | ||
And it's almost like you forget DeSantis is even there. | ||
It's really kind of sad, actually. | ||
That's right. | ||
I feel like I've seen Governor Berger, man. | ||
Governor Kermit. | ||
More than I've seen DeSantis. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And I think that's a byproduct, too, of people. | ||
Like you said, he's the Trump. | ||
So people keep invoking his name. | ||
Which then gives him the opportunity to respond. | ||
So since everyone is attacking him, that's why he's getting a lot of time is because he keeps being invoked. | ||
So that tells you a lot about who's the real threat on the stage, I guess. | ||
This is what's kind of wild to me, is that... | ||
It has been said, and I'm not quite sure who is the person who coined this first, and a lot of people have repeated it, that Vivek is running the campaign that DeSantis could have and should have run, which is where you're kind of like a miniature, younger, more polished Trump, right? | ||
And then you run alongside of Trump. | ||
And if they're to do something terrible to Trump or whatever, at least you don't piss off his base. | ||
At least you don't run against Trump. | ||
And that's what everyone assumed. | ||
And watching this debate, I'm amazed at how true that is. | ||
That Vivek has absolutely become the Trump, Indian Trump, on stage. | ||
And they're attacking him like that, and DeSantis is an afterthought. | ||
No one's even talking about DeSantis, which is wild! | ||
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He's not bringing the heat. | |
He's not saying anything interesting. | ||
He's saying the same canned lines that he had for his first two gubernatorial campaigns. | ||
I mean, there's nothing new. | ||
There's nothing fresh. | ||
Vivek is exciting. | ||
He's young. | ||
And he's going toe-to-toe with every single one of these candidates on stage. | ||
They're making this into a clown show. | ||
I mean, it's kind of a disaster. | ||
When I'm looking at the comments, the people, the American people, are watching this debate and they're like, this is so embarrassing. | ||
None of these people deserve to be present. | ||
But then you have Vivek and they're all, you know, piling on him and he's going toe to toe with all of them and he's holding his own just in very Trumpian fashion. | ||
Like you said, I love watching it. | ||
That is kind of amazing, ALX, right? | ||
All these guys, they've done politics their entire life, right? | ||
So Mike Pence has been in politics his entire life. | ||
Chris Christie has been part of the political zeitgeist for at least 30 years, or for the federal government. | ||
And Vivek, as far as I can tell, and as far as the energy that I'm seeing online, is just kicking their asses. | ||
Oh yeah, and the thing is, it's like people keep saying that's a red flag that he quote-unquote came out of nowhere. | ||
But I mean, he was in the private sector, and then... | ||
I've seen him on Fox at least for two years. | ||
So he was in the ecosystem, but just because I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing that he quote-unquote came out of nowhere. | ||
That just means he's not a career politician. | ||
I mean, if you're working in the private sector, what's the reason for you to be on TV every day if you're working in the private sector doing your own thing? | ||
So just because he's very well-spoken and knows what he's talking about. | ||
And is successful at what he's doing. | ||
People think it's a red flag because he just came out of nowhere and is so good at what he's doing. | ||
I take that as a compliment, that he's actually able to take the stage by storm. | ||
And they're using that as something to knock him. | ||
Oh, he has no experience. | ||
Hello, Donald Trump had no previous political experience either. | ||
And he wiped the stage completely clean in 2016. | ||
So, I mean, it looks like they're making the same mistakes they did in 2016. | ||
Kind of interesting point you brought up there. | ||
Vivek is a... | ||
I know less about his business, but he's also a self-made rich person, clearly. | ||
He's self-funding. | ||
I think he said he's self-funding his campaign to $10 million. | ||
Well, I mean, dude, he must have made a fortune. | ||
And much like Donald Trump, claimed to be a billionaire. | ||
The day that he announced his run for president, sort of self-made. | ||
Different age categories, different age demographics, and he's clearly flustering the older people. | ||
This is what I find particularly interesting. | ||
Who's losing the most right now? | ||
Vivek is winning the most. | ||
Who do you think is losing the most guys on stage? | ||
I think David made a good point by saying DeSantis, because the hype was so high, and the expectations were so high, and he's... | ||
Practically not on the stage. | ||
He's totally disappeared and sort of dissolved into that backdrop that's on the stage. | ||
And Vivek's taking up all the oxygen. | ||
I think by the end of this night, people will remember Vivek. | ||
They'll remember his voice. | ||
They may not remember everything he said, but they know he was present. | ||
I love you, Danny. | ||
I love you, Danny, but we only got like five minutes left, so let's have a listen. | ||
39%. | ||
In his pitch to get to the Oval Office, President Reagan called America the shining city on a hill, a beacon of hope and optimism. | ||
So in your closing statement tonight, please tell American voters why you are the person who can inspire this nation to a better day. | ||
These are 45 seconds, and we begin with Governor Burgum. | ||
I understand why America's hurting. | ||
Biden's inflation is choking us. | ||
I grew up in a small town. | ||
My dad died when I was a freshman in high school. | ||
My mom, widow of three, went back to work. | ||
Every job I had growing up, It was one where I took a shower at the end of the day, not at the beginning of the day. | ||
Our cities are less safe because of the fentanyl pouring into this country. | ||
Our economy is being crushed by Biden's energy policies, which are raising the cost of every product you buy, not just the gasoline at the pump. | ||
One thing that I'll do as president, I'll secure the border. | ||
I'll get this economy sprinting, not crawling like it is right now. | ||
And I would say that other thing is for sure, when I'm on a horseback, In the Badlands of North Dakota, it looks like the horizon is just limitless. | ||
And when you can almost see beyond that horizon, you can see that this great country, our future is unlimited. | ||
But we've got to focus on innovation, not regulation. | ||
We've got to cut the red tape. | ||
We've got to drive ourselves forward. | ||
The way we win the Cold War with China is by growing our economy and through innovation. | ||
And as president, I will... | ||
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Okay, okay. | ||
Stop talking about your showers. | ||
You're showering horses, okay? | ||
Whatever. | ||
Dude, you couldn't even play basketball without winding up the emergency room. | ||
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It's in trouble because of failed leadership. | |
And the solution is not four more years of Joseph Biden. | ||
The solution is not four more years of Donald Trump. | ||
The solution is... | ||
We need to comb over those men. | ||
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...can bring bold ideas to America and to bring out the best of America. | |
A president's number one responsibility is to bring out the best of our people. | ||
That's what Ronald Reagan did. | ||
And he did it with optimism and hope for our country, with consistent conservatism. | ||
That's exactly what I bring. | ||
As president, I'll bring out the best of America in terms of individual responsibility, building our economy, in terms of securing our border, enforcing the rule of law. | ||
I'll bring out the best of America in terms of our national character, our faith, and our hope for the future. | ||
Join in this fight. | ||
ASA2024.com Remember Q-tip. | ||
I look like a Q-tip. | ||
Q-tips bring out the best from your ears. | ||
I was a disillusioned young man growing up in a single-parent household mired in poverty. | ||
I wondered if the American dream was real for a kid like me. | ||
I can stand before you today and say the dream is alive, it is well, and it is healthy. | ||
I have the good fortune of a mom who works 16-hour days making sure we have food on our tables. | ||
She taught me that if you're able-bodied in America, you work. | ||
If you take out a loan, you pay it back. | ||
You commit a violent crime, you go to jail. | ||
And if God made you a man, you play sports against men. | ||
Okay, I mean, that's a good one. | ||
Okay, fine. | ||
I'm asking you for your vote, and if you're in Iowa, I'm asking you to caucus for me. | ||
You can go to votetimscott.com. | ||
For more information or to make a contribution. | ||
Governor Christie. | ||
Now that dude sounds like AI. | ||
That dude sounds like a chatbot. | ||
Thank you, Martha. | ||
Look, everybody on this stage wants to be the next president of the United States. | ||
And the only way that's going to happen is if we beat Joe Biden. | ||
I'm the only one on this stage who's ever beaten a Democratic incumbent in an election. | ||
I did it in a deep blue state, being outspent three to one. | ||
Beating a Democratic incumbent is not easy. | ||
The last Democratic incumbent president who was defeated was Jimmy Carter. | ||
And he was defeated by a conservative governor from a blue state who knew how to get results, who stood for the truth, who cared about accountability, and stood strong and hard against waste. | ||
Those are the very things that I did in my eight years as governor of New Jersey. | ||
I wouldn't describe you as strong and hard. | ||
As president of the United States. | ||
Believe me. | ||
The Democrats want some other nominee who's never beaten a Democratic incumbent. | ||
I'm the one who can win this race, and if you give me the chance, I will restore our country by winning it. | ||
Thank you. | ||
Governor Haley. | ||
Several weeks ago, I dropped my husband, Michael, a combat veteran from Afghanistan, off at 4 a.m. for another year-long deployment. | ||
I watched him and 230 soldiers pick up their two duffel bags of belongings to go to a country they had never been, all in the name of protecting America. | ||
All in the name of Boeing's profits. | ||
If they are willing to protect us from there. | ||
We should be willing to fight for America here. | ||
I will beat Joe Biden, and he knows that. | ||
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I will strengthen our economy, and we'll bring this inflation down. | |
We will put transparency in the classroom. | ||
We will secure our borders. | ||
We will have the backs of our law enforcement, and we will make sure we have a strong national security. | ||
And once again, we will make sure we have an America that is strong and proud. | ||
We have a country to save. | ||
Join us. | ||
Go to NikkiHaley.com, and let's get it done. | ||
Vice President Pence. | ||
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Thank you very much for this evening. | |
It's an honor to be here. | ||
Joe Biden has weakened America at home and abroad. | ||
The disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, their war on energy, runaway spending that launched the worst inflation in 40 years, a crisis at our southern border, an assault on our values and liberties, and the American people have had enough. | ||
But I know we can bring it back. | ||
But different times call for different leadership. | ||
The Republican Party owes the American people the choice. | ||
Proven leadership at the national level that knows how to move a conservative agenda forward. | ||
We proved in the Trump-Pence years you can turn this country around faster than you can imagine. | ||
Trump. | ||
And I have faith we will again. | ||
Because I have faith in the American people. | ||
The good, decent, hard-working, faith-filled, idealistic people of this country. | ||
And I have faith that God is not done with America yet. | ||
And if we will renew our faith in one another and renew our faith in Him who has ever guided this nation since we arrived on these wilderness shores, I know the best days for the greatest nation on earth are yet to come. | ||
Thank you. | ||
Mr. Ramaswamy. | ||
I was born in 1985 and I grew up into a generation where we were taught to celebrate our diversity and our differences so much. | ||
That we forgot all of the ways we are really just the same as Americans, bound by a common set of ideals that set this nation into motion in 1776. | ||
And this is our moment to revive those common ideals. | ||
God is real. | ||
There are two genders. | ||
Fossil fuels are a requirement for human prosperity. | ||
Reverse racism is racism. | ||
An open border is not a border. | ||
Parents determine the education of their children. | ||
The nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to man. | ||
Capitalism lifts us up from poverty. | ||
There are three branches of government, not four. | ||
And the U.S. Constitution, it is the strongest guarantor of freedom in human history. | ||
That is what won us the American Revolution. | ||
That is what will win us the Revolution of 2024. | ||
Thanks for letting me introduce myself tonight. | ||
Dude, listen to that. | ||
Listen to your boy! | ||
Come get your boy! | ||
Governor? | ||
This is our time for choosing. | ||
We will send Joe Biden back to his basement and we will reverse the decline of this country. | ||
I'm a blue-collar kid. | ||
I work minimum wage jobs to be able to make ends meet. | ||
I understand the importance of the American dream, and I know how that slipped away from so many millions of Americans will restore it. | ||
I'm a veteran who served in Iraq. | ||
I know what it means to put service above self. | ||
I'm also a dad and a husband, 6 '5 and 3-year-old. | ||
I understand the importance of protecting parents' rights and the well-being of our children. | ||
In Florida, we showed it could be done. | ||
I made promises, and I delivered on all of those promises. | ||
2024 is make or break. | ||
We're not getting a mulligan. | ||
No excuses. | ||
I will get the job done, and as your president, I will not let you down. | ||
God bless you all. | ||
We want to say thank you. | ||
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Thank you to all the candidates on the stage. | |
Maybe a different election, you know what I mean? | ||
Thank you, everybody. | ||
We will see you on the campaign trail. | ||
From the needs to primaries to the general election and the conventions before that. | ||
Thanks for joining us. | ||
Sean Hannity from the Spin Room. | ||
Take it away, Sean. | ||
Take it away, Sean. | ||
Ladies and gentlemen, there is a moment that we have to rewatch from this. | ||
There is a special moment, which is Vivek versus Chris Crispy. | ||
And, I mean, one, Chris Crispy is already body shamed. | ||
He body shamed Vivek, said, you're too skinny, on his way to put on a pair of dazzly sequins and join Lizzo's tour group. | ||
But then there was this back and forth about Donald Trump, and it was so legendary. | ||
You've got to check this out. | ||
There were actually more, there was more fire than I thought there was going to be. | ||
This one is the one. | ||
Governor Christie, you sit here talking about how you want to stand up for the rule of law. | ||
Yes. | ||
And law and order. | ||
And the fact is that it can't be selective. | ||
In your book, you had much different things to say about Donald Trump than you're saying here tonight. | ||
That's not true. | ||
No, it is very true. | ||
That is not true. | ||
It's very true. | ||
I read it. | ||
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Because there's a difference between bad behavior and illegal behavior, Chris. | |
And you as a prosecutor should know better. | ||
You know what? | ||
I know a lot better. | ||
There's a difference between bad behavior. | ||
I know a lot better than you do. | ||
You've never done it like you've never done anything to try to advance the interests of this government except to put yourself forward as a candidate. | ||
And here's the thing. | ||
We've stood up for law and order. | ||
I did it as U.S. Attorney. | ||
I did it as Governor. | ||
And I am not going to bow to anyone when we have a President of the United States who disrespects the Constitution. | ||
He said, he said, he said, Martha, it's important to say that the President said, Donald Trump said, it's okay to suspend the Constitution. | ||
Now, the oath you take is to preserve, protect, and defend, not suspend. | ||
I will always stand up for our Constitution, regardless of the political pressure. | ||
All right, boys. | ||
Okay, so... | ||
This is the major takeaways. | ||
We were in the middle of the conversation about who lost the most. | ||
I think that Vivek probably gained the most, based on the energy I'm seeing online. | ||
I think that's indisputable. | ||
Who lost the most? | ||
And I would posit out there, yes, people ignored Ron DeSantis, but did that actually hurt Ron DeSantis? | ||
Does Mike Pence, being such a prick, and Chris Christie being such a jackwagon, like on the debate stage, Brett Baer, if you're pissing off Brett Baer, Like, he did that a couple times. | ||
Like, dude, people check that energy. | ||
Yeah, I think a lot of people are saying, Pence, you know, that he kind of, as the vice presidential or former vice president, you'd think that he would be the person on the stage with the most to lose. | ||
But a lot of people are saying that Ron DeSantis lost the most. | ||
Because he actually was the person that people had the highest expectations for. | ||
Because for a while, he was the second in the polls. | ||
But, I mean, Pence getting screamed at, like you said, by Brett Baer. | ||
And then also just like, he had more of a presence than DeSantis. | ||
But I think a lot of people didn't really expect much from Pence, which is why they're not saying he's the biggest loser on the stage. | ||
For Chris Christie, I don't think anyone had any expectations for him based on the last two times he tried to run. | ||
So that's why I think a lot of people are saying it's DeSantis. | ||
It's because people expected the most from him, and he seemed to blend in and kind of like a wallflower. | ||
So I tend to agree with that. | ||
Who had the worst debate style, David? | ||
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Well, I mean, I just... | |
I'm in the mood to kind of dunk on Pence right now just because I think he's so cringe. | ||
And I just don't like his style at all because it's not relatable. | ||
And I think he came into this debate already a loser. | ||
I mean, he has lost the MAGA base since the election in 2020. | ||
And then during this campaign cycle, with this interview with Tucker, he's lost the MAGA base. | ||
He's already a loser. | ||
I can't really imagine, especially your followers, Benny, like in the comments, I'm curious, is there even one person that actually likes Mike Pence? | ||
Because what I'm seeing is everybody can't stand him and his debate style is just so dry. | ||
And I wonder, like, I kind of actually do want to meet him in person just to find out, is he actually just like that all the time? | ||
Or is this just his political stick? | ||
But it's just so unrelatable. | ||
And it's also kind of a representation of... | ||
Politicians of the past and of the old GOP. | ||
You know, we say, you're not your grandfather's GOP anymore. | ||
And Mike Pence kind of is that grandfather, you know? | ||
And it's like, that's why we love Trump. | ||
Even though he was older, he could be our grandfather. | ||
He doesn't act like it, you know? | ||
But Pence does. | ||
It's just so boring. | ||
What was in Chris Christie's coffee, Danny? | ||
What do you think? | ||
I mean, the other person who was really flailing, everyone else was kind of forgettable, right? | ||
Asa Hutchison, Nikki Haley, Governor Berger. | ||
But Chris Christie did his best to make himself the main event. | ||
Your thoughts? | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
I think if I had to choose who had the worst style, I would say it was Chris Christie. | ||
He came out overly aggressive to the point where he just looked kind of impulsive and out of control. | ||
Very, very much attacking Vivek, but I think that backfired because Vivek is someone who comes prepared, whereas Chris Christie was sort of flinging arrows everywhere, but no real... | ||
He's not a good tactician, I wouldn't say. | ||
So when people are analyzing who their ex-president is going to be, they want to see someone who can actually be strategic, and I think Chris Christie totally blew it. | ||
People didn't see that leader. | ||
They just kind of saw that child screaming in the playground, but no. | ||
No real substance behind him. | ||
Yeah, that's right. | ||
Give that kid a juice box. | ||
Like, stat. | ||
And some gummy bears. | ||
Diet. | ||
Diet juice box. | ||
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Can I say, though, there is something, like, mildly entertaining about Chris Christie. | |
Like, he is kind of funny. | ||
He's entertaining. | ||
Like, without him there, this debate would have been a lot more boring. | ||
And there's just... | ||
I mean, he is awful, but he's also kind of entertaining. | ||
Like, in the worst way possible. | ||
I'm not saying he's likable. | ||
He's just... | ||
That's right. | ||
Mike Pence is so dismissive and diminutive, right? | ||
He talks down to you and he uses these lofty, egalitarian phrases. | ||
And Chris Christie, I would much rather see a debate of Vivek versus Chris Christie, right? | ||
That's it. | ||
No one else on stage, just those two. | ||
Vivek versus Tim Scott, are you kidding me? | ||
I'd be asleep, right? | ||
Same with Nikki Haley. | ||
You're right, David. | ||
Those are the two that actually elicited some type of emotion. | ||
What is it? | ||
Chris Christie's like a Soprano character. | ||
It's like an IRL Soprano character. | ||
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Literally. | |
What's going to happen in the polls, Alex? | ||
What's going on in the polls? | ||
Who's going to go up and go down? | ||
Yeah, I see a predictable jump for Vivek. | ||
He's going to continue his momentum. | ||
I think DeSantis is going to continue to fall. | ||
I really don't see anyone else. | ||
Making much of a change. | ||
I don't know how long whatever his name is can pull off the $20 gift card to get on the debate stage shtick. | ||
Berga? | ||
Yeah. | ||
I don't know how many more debates we can hear about his showering schedule. | ||
I don't see him going anywhere. | ||
I don't see any of the other candidates moving in the polls. | ||
I mean, how much more can they move down? | ||
They're at like 1-2%. | ||
But yeah, I see a predictable rise from Vake, and DeSantis is going to take a hit, I think, for sure. | ||
I do want to cap off our evening here. | ||
We've been live for three hours. | ||
I want to cap off our evening with, of course, the main event, which was Tucker vs. | ||
Trump. | ||
I wanted to notify everyone, if you weren't following along, that ALX has been retweeted by Tucker on X. And so, bravo to ALX, the very rare, most coveted retweet possibly on Earth, the Tucker Carlson retweet. | ||
Since Donald Trump is not on the platform, then it's the Donald Trump retweet. | ||
Boys, that is clearly the dominant newsmaking event of the evening. | ||
Am I wrong? | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
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Well, what? | |
I mean, before the hour was over, it already had over 74 million views. | ||
I mean, is there any way to tell how many views the debate had? | ||
Or do we have to wait for the ratings to come out? | ||
We'll wait for the ratings. | ||
It will be, like, tomorrow afternoon or whatever. | ||
They're super slow with that. | ||
They'll have, like, the previews in the morning, I think, of, like, the projected ratings, but they don't come out until later. | ||
But, I mean, under an hour for it to almost be at 100 million. | ||
That's actually insane. | ||
So, I mean, we're going to see a record on this because Elon's retweeted it and quote tweeted it now, so that's going to give it another boost. | ||
There's something interesting about Trump's style with Tucker, where he just seemed extremely relaxed. | ||
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I think what I kind of noticed is Trump is kind of like wise sage now. | |
You know, like, he's a little less bombastic than he was during the 2016 and 2020 election cycles, and he still has those same zingers, and he's still got his edge, but he just has this, he's assumed this position of, like, wisdom. | ||
I don't know, it's like, he seems much more polished, and he does seem at ease, peaceful, but, like, wise. | ||
Yeah, I mean, I think that is, that actually, it's kind of funny because it's like, he doesn't need to fight anymore, right? | ||
I think he looks at the numbers and he realizes, he's like a very, and he's been there now, and so his tact with Tucker was not combative, right, or jousting. | ||
We've all seen him in that state. | ||
For instance, what was the last time Trump did a thing that was like, primetime, Caitlin Collins, CNN. | ||
That was the first, that was the last big time, like primetime Trump. | ||
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Interview. | |
Trump had a totally different style, right? | ||
Very different, very combative. | ||
Oh, should I whip it out? | ||
I'll whip it out. | ||
And he whips it out. | ||
Should I whip it out? | ||
Should I do it? | ||
He didn't pull any stunts with Tucker, right? | ||
It was like, chill in my club, have a very calm, very leveled, very laser-focused conversation. | ||
A lot of great zingers in there. | ||
But I think it's like... | ||
It's like a different Trump that doesn't need to run. | ||
He doesn't need to run on fire like he did in 2016 anymore. | ||
And I think maybe that'll be good for him. | ||
Obviously, the guy's got a lot going on. | ||
Yeah, so Tucker has a way about asking questions, too. | ||
He asks actual, like, in-depth... | ||
Intellectual and interesting questions. | ||
And then he lets the man talk. | ||
He doesn't ask a baited question where he inserts an out-of-context quote like CNN was doing to Vivek even the other day. | ||
They'll say something false and then ask why you did something false or did something that you didn't. | ||
And then when you try and defend yourself, they cut you off. | ||
You know, that's when Trump had to whip out the fact check because she essentially just accused him of something that he didn't do. | ||
And then he's like, oh, well, I knew you were going to ask that. | ||
So here it is. | ||
Let me whip it out. | ||
With Tucker, he lets the man talk and explain himself. | ||
And essentially, that's what the American people want because they want to hear the candidate. | ||
So they're not going to vote for Caitlin Collins. | ||
So no one wants to hear Caitlin Collins interrupt Trump 100 times and talk over him. | ||
So that's just, you know, the difference in style there. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I don't know, man. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I'm, like, I'm really liking Vivek. | ||
I'm telling you. | ||
Like, I got what I assumed. | ||
The only surprise of the night. | ||
The surprise was not that Tucker and Trump had a great, super chill, super bro-out, hilarious conversation. | ||
I was expecting that. | ||
The surprise for me is that Vivek, like, went in with, like, brass knuckles and started just cracking skulls, like, on stage. | ||
That, like, kind of energy, I don't know, Danny, like, that kind of energy, like, it attracts young people. | ||
I think the guy's got a, I think the guy, he's not going to be the candidate in 2024, but I think he's got a pretty fresh career ahead of him. | ||
Oh, yeah, and if you just pop over and open Twitter tonight, that is taking over my entire feed. | ||
It's just, it's crushing it, the big clips. | ||
That's what I'm saying. | ||
Like, so, people are watching this debate right now, and they're going to get what they think, but then there's a whole, like, 24-hour cycle after today. | ||
We're going to have people online just sharing clips, and Bebeck's just at the top of all of those feeds. | ||
And so I think he crushed it tonight. | ||
I think he did what he needed to do, and he was a good tactician in that sense, where he just went in, and I think he's going to dominate for the coming polls, I would say, at least for second spot. | ||
Speaking about being at the top of people's feeds, check this out. | ||
Elon Musk responding to ALX. | ||
Come on, baby! | ||
ALX, talk me through this. | ||
Yeah, so I said Trump's interview with Tucker on X is breaking the internet. | ||
Just wait until real Donald Trump returns to X himself. | ||
I've been really pushing the team to come back with the mugshot image tomorrow. | ||
And I have assured everyone multiple times that that would be the most engaged post on the platform in history if he actually does that. | ||
I mean, this talker interview is going nuts. | ||
People at X are telling me that it's, like, internally that it's breaking things on the back end. | ||
Could you imagine the Trump mugshot? | ||
The first tweet back. | ||
Like, that would break the platform. | ||
Yeah, I know. | ||
I told Rudy to make his his Abby. | ||
I hope they all do it. | ||
But yeah, Trump returning. | ||
And this is... | ||
I think the third time that Elon has encouraged Trump to come back on the platform publicly. | ||
So, like, he wants him back, and we're ready for it. | ||
So, I really hope he comes back tomorrow. | ||
Trump has written some of the funniest posts on this platform. | ||
What's Elon's razor? | ||
Yeah, I know. | ||
The most entertaining outcome is the most likely. | ||
And that would be the most entertaining outcome to see Trump tweet his own mugshot. | ||
That is the classic, man. | ||
That is classic. | ||
They both have viral posts about Coke, though. | ||
The thin person drinking Diet Coke and then Elon's, I think, most engaged one. | ||
I don't know if it's the Prosecute Fauci one or if it's I'm going to put the Coke back in Coca-Cola. | ||
Nice. | ||
Alright, boys. | ||
Let's check on in. | ||
Looks like we got... | ||
This is probably lagging. | ||
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Looks like 80 million views here. | |
109,000. | ||
300, 400,000. | ||
I mean, these numbers lag historically by quite a lot. | ||
Right, Alex? | ||
Yeah, and like I said, since I was hearing from engineers that it was breaking the back end, I feel like a lot of the numbers are going to be delayed on that. | ||
Because I feel like a lot of people watching it at once, you know. | ||
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Mine says $85 million on my phone already. | |
Exactly. | ||
I'll have to refresh, too. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Okay. | ||
There you go. | ||
Oh, there it is. | ||
Okay. | ||
There it is. | ||
We had the window open. | ||
Look at this. | ||
Such a great shot. | ||
Start off with such a great shot. | ||
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Yeah, I know. | |
I know. | ||
Look at that. | ||
Tucker's crib. | ||
Such a mood. | ||
Such a vibe. | ||
Oh, man. | ||
Ladies and gentlemen. | ||
Again, we deeply, deeply appreciate your time this evening. | ||
It has been such a fun live. | ||
We've been live for three hours. | ||
ALX, you've got to follow him. | ||
He's the executive producer. | ||
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ALX, shout out your boys. | |
Yes, ALX on X. Go follow it. | ||
And also follow Danny Dierbino. | ||
Come on, Luke. | ||
Look at that. | ||
And also follow David as well. | ||
Look at that. | ||
People watching our show. | ||
People watching our show inside. | ||
Inside. | ||
Is that Luke We Are Change? | ||
Yes, sir. | ||
And then that's Carrie Lake. | ||
Yes! | ||
The GOP today looks so interesting. | ||
The bassist of the bassist. | ||
The bassist of the bassist. | ||
And we have, yeah, we have the show going on inside. | ||
We had record viewership tonight. | ||
We are deeply thankful. | ||
Here's Danny D 'Urbina's account. | ||
Danny, shout out your boys. | ||
There you go. | ||
Danny D 'Urbina on Twitter. | ||
That's where I spend most of my time online and where I post my spicy steak. | ||
So that's the place to find me. | ||
Very spicy. | ||
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Dave, oh, he still has the cover image! | |
He still got it! | ||
Classy! | ||
A classy man! | ||
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I'm about to hit 40k, so... | |
Run it up. | ||
Let's go, baby. | ||
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Broke back to the slay, that's me. | |
And ladies and gentlemen, nothing would be complete without looking at Tucker Carlson's timeline here, almost at 10 million followers, and looking at and watching... | ||
Oh, wait a second, I thought he retweeted you, ALX. | ||
Is it not on here? | ||
It appears he un-retweeted me. | ||
He un-retweeted you? | ||
Just wanted to give me a little boost, it looked like. | ||
Oh, no! | ||
Did he just like it? | ||
But if you want to scroll down a little, there is still one up when he retweeted the Russell Brand one. | ||
That one he did leave up. | ||
Ladies and gentlemen, what we saw tonight was a change, like a sea change in what we're doing. | ||
And it's so special to be able to deliver counter-programming. | ||
That's what all tonight was about. | ||
Tucker Carlson did retweet ALX. | ||
He un-retweeted it. | ||
Whatever. | ||
Who are we to tell Tucker how to do Twitter? | ||
Come on! | ||
He's clearly the master. | ||
And he doesn't even know his own Twitter password. | ||
So that's awesome. | ||
This and our entire company is about creating a site and a platform for you. | ||
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To know that you're not alone. | ||
We do want to apologize. | ||
We have 22,000 people concurrently watching on YouTube. | ||
It's insane. | ||
We just love our YouTube audiences. | ||
We love all of our audiences. | ||
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Any final comments? | ||
I honestly think Tucker's and Trump's blew it out of the water. | ||
And that was their mission to overshadow this. | ||
So I think it was a successful night for them. | ||
And, you know, tomorrow we'll see what happens. | ||
I really want Trump to return to X. And that would really overshadow the news cycle of this entire debate. | ||
That's exactly right. | ||
Yes, the alpha move. | ||
Yeah, I think from the main debate, there were just minimal headlines that came out of it. | ||
I think what we're going to see is that the impact happened during that Tucker Trump. | ||
I think that speaks to the larger impact that independent creators have in the movement. | ||
That's where the power is in that corner. | ||
That's where the impact is. | ||
And so I think this really highlights that independent creators at this point have more power than corporate newsrooms. | ||
And so I think this is just a great way to sort of launch that. | ||
I think we're going to be seeing more of that in this campaign at least. | ||
So I'm excited about that. | ||
Danny says at this point in time, but if you check the recent Nielsen ratings, you can see that streaming has now utterly taken over where cable news used to dominate. | ||
We are now the new cable news, and it's so awesome to see. | ||
David, audience, what's up? | ||
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You know, the real winner tonight, we all know it, is Donald Trump. | |
You just can't keep that man down. | ||
Tomorrow, he gets his mug shot. | ||
He just absolutely dominates the news cycle. | ||
The entire debate was still, even though he wasn't there, is still about Donald Trump. | ||
Vivek really crushed it. | ||
You know, we're going to see him surge. | ||
And here's the thing. | ||
He's so young. | ||
And tonight really was his debut to the country, right? | ||
Like people that are into politics know about him, but the majority of the country still are learning about him. | ||
And, you know, right now it's Trump's time and Trump, you know, is not going away right now, but there will be a future without Trump and Vivek will still be there. | ||
So I think he's the one to watch for a long time. | ||
I mean, he's only 38. So it was a lot of fun, though. | ||
So tonight was great. | ||
Super based. | ||
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