I can say this: there's a level of passion that I've never seen, there's a level of hatred that I've never seen, and that's probably a bad combination.
We're doing this interview, but we'll get bigger ratings using this crazy forum that you're using than probably the debate.
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If he gets hit with my titlers, that's his problem.
We got people on the inside of the debate in Milwaukee.
We got a line directly through to Tucker's team.
Tucker's going to drop his interview with Trump any second now.
Any second.
And we got the ticker on screen.
We're going to be live.
In Milwaukee, right in the corner.
I'm going to introduce you to the format for tonight, and you are part of the show.
Are you ready, ladies and gentlemen, for our new format when we have to watch multiple things multiple times, bringing you into the conversation, able to communicate and talk with you?
We've been talking about this.
We've been building it.
We've been doing it.
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Rolls-Royce has been driving all over the streets doing burnouts!
And a network that isn't particularly friendly to me, frankly.
You know, they were backing Ronda Sanctimonious like crazy, and now they've given up on him.
I mean, it's a lost cause.
It reminded me very much of 2016.
You know, in 2016, I went through the same stuff and had to fight them all the way, and then they became very friendly after I won or just about when I was winning.
But I just felt it would be...
More appropriate not to do the debate.
I don't think it's right to do it.
If you're leading by 50, 60, I have one problem leading by 70 points, and I'm saying, why am I doing it?
And I'm going to have eight people, ten people, whoever made the debate.
I don't know how many it is, but I'm going to have all these people screaming at me, shouting questions at me, all of which I love answering, I love doing, but it doesn't make sense to do them.
When they make up the Russia, Russia, Russia, when that's exposed and they go down and Barr should have gone after them and other people should have gone after.
And they did very late because the Durham report came out.
It was...
Fairly good.
It could have been a lot tougher, I guess, but it was fairly good.
But it explained how corrupt it was.
I'll tell you who did a great job was the Inspector General Horowitz.
He did a phenomenal report.
You didn't have to go to Durham.
He did it on Comey and on, I guess, McCabe and some others.
And it was a vicious...
It was basically a true report, how bad they are.
But these people are sick people.
These are people that...
I think they hate our country.
You want to know the truth?
When you see open borders, when you see these policies that they have, and so many other things, it's so sad to see.
We have a country that's very fragile right now.
I've never seen...
I will say, look, I ran in 16, which was 15, but I ran in 16, election in 16, and there was tremendous spirit.
In 20, there was even more spirit.
We got millions and millions more votes.
You know, it wasn't even a contest.
People said, well, what do you think of 20?
I said, we did much better.
We did.
You've got to base it on the number of votes.
We got many more votes in 20 than we did in 16. But the election was rigged.
It was a rigged election.
And with COVID, they used COVID to cheat in a lot of different things, and we have so much on it.
It's, like, so easy.
But we had judges that didn't want to look.
We had people who didn't want to get involved.
He's a conspiracy theorist if you say anything about the election.
But I have never seen spirit like there is right now.
Even coming down here, just the people on the road that are just absolutely going crazy.
And the reason is, I think they like me and I know they love my policies.
So do you have a preference in, assuming you're the Republican nominee and all goes as you plan it to go, do you have a preference in who you run against?
And I'm not sure I would have said this 10 years ago, but they get it.
You know, they really get it.
When somebody gets indicted, your poll numbers go down.
When somebody gets indicted, you announce, ladies and gentlemen, I'll be leaving to spend time with my family and to fight for the rest of my life on this stuff.
But you're out of politics.
I got indicted four times.
All trivia, nonsense, bullshit.
It's all bullshit.
It's horrible when you look and you look at what they're doing.
The boxes hoax.
I'm covered by the Presidential Records Act.
I'm allowed to do exactly that.
He's not covered and he's got 25 times the number of boxes.
And he's got them stored in Chinatown.
He's got them stored in a flimsy garage underneath his Corvette at Penn.
And by the way, at Penn he gets millions of dollars.
China pays this guy millions of dollars.
See, I think he's the most corrupt president we've ever had.
And he also has the distinction of being the most incompetent.
And I believe both.
I mean, he's both incompetent and corrupt.
I actually believe he's compromised because China knows so much about him.
We lost 35,000 people to the mosquito, you know, malaria.
We lost 35,000 people building.
We lost 35,000 people because of the mosquito.
Vicious.
They had to build under nets.
It was one of the true great...
Wonders of the world, as he said, one of the nine wonders of the world.
No, no, it was one of the seven.
It happened a little while ago, you know.
It's nine wonders of the world.
You could make nine wonders.
He would have been better off if he stuck with the nine and just said, yeah, I think it's nine.
But this is one of the true seven wonders of the world.
And you take a look at the Panama Canal.
It was such an incredible engineering marvel.
We sold it under Jimmy Carter.
We sold it to Panama for $1.
The following day, they quadrupled the amount of money that ships had to pay to get across.
They didn't lose one ship, and now they've made it much bigger, and now they've widened it.
They've doubled it, right?
They've more than doubled it.
And it's one of the most profitable things.
Any time, it's just incredible, right?
We gave it away for $1.
China now controls it.
They actually control the Panama Canal.
They run it.
They control it.
And we shouldn't let that happen.
And we can't let China be in Cuba.
And they'll get out.
If I'm president, they'll get out.
Because I had a very good relationship with President Xi, but he respected this country.
He respected me.
And he'll get out.
And we can't let them run the Panama Canal.
We built the Panama Canal.
Should have never been given to Panama.
We should have had it.
But we gave it for $1.
Think of it.
They quadrupled.
In one day, they lifted the fees, which are, you know, pretty big for these massive ships to go through, right?
Rather than going around the Cape and all the tremendous storms, such beauty, such, you know, when you say it's beautiful stuff.
But you didn't want to get caught in those storms.
Those were storms that wiped out the biggest ships.
And we go through the Panama Canal.
We built it.
And we gave it away for $1.
Think of that.
How stupid are we?
We have done the stupidest things in this country.
And now we have a president that can't put two sentences together, can't speak, can't walk, can't talk.
I don't think he gets to the starting gate, but these people do miracles.
I mean, he ran out of his basement, and you got away with that one because of COVID, so he sort of got away with it.
They cheated on the election.
But you have people that are very smart, but they're fascists and they're radical left lunatics, and they're destroying our country with the all-electric cars.
Well, you can, but now they make it so you can't do that so easily.
They have a restrictor.
It's called a restrictor.
And it restricts the water from coming out.
So I ended all of that.
And you have to see these.
They let the water come out.
You know what people do?
They wash their hands like five times longer.
Or in the washing machine, they'll press for their, let's say, the dishwasher.
They'll press it.
Then they'll press it about seven or eight times.
They'll end up using more water, and it still won't be very good.
I met with the head of Whirlpool.
They were practically going out of business during my administration, and they said to me from Ohio, incredible, great state.
I love Ohio.
They were really doing badly because people were dumping washing machines all over, mostly from South Korea, but also from China.
And he was explaining it's just a terrible situation.
I said, let me ask you.
How's the quality?
He says, we're better, but they are good enough quality.
But, you know, of course he's going to say that.
But, you know, they are better.
He said, but they don't allow us.
They're dumping these machines.
They're cutting us in half.
They're killing us.
And on top of it, the government won't let us use water in our machines.
I mean, he shows me like a quarter of a bottle of water.
That's supposed to be washing clothing.
And I freed it all up, and I put tariffs on.
These countries that were selling and the machines coming into the country.
And that company went from a big, all the washing machine companies, they make washing machines, they make dryers, they make all of the different machines that do this kind of work, including dishwashers.
And they went from a disaster area to being just thriving.
But I started, you know, when I looked at the 51 intelligence agents saying that the laptop from hell was Russia disinformation, when I took a look at that, I said, that's a horrible thing.
They knew it wasn't.
They knew it was not.
And by the way, you're talking about cheating on the election?
McLaughlin and Fabrizio, great pollsters, they said a thing like that plus other things meant anywhere from 10 to 17 percent.
You've got to understand, in my opinion, Mike Pence had the absolute right to send the votes back to the legislatures.
The Democrats and everybody said, you don't have the right.
In other words, what I said, is he a human conveyor belt?
You mean if he finds fraud in Pennsylvania?
In Georgia, in any of these states, Arizona, he has to send them to Mitch McConnell, right?
That's right, sir.
Well, if he finds fraud, he has to?
Yes, sir.
I said, so he's just, so he's a conveyor belt.
Boom, put him in.
I said, I don't agree with that.
And we had some lawyers, not all.
We had some lawyers that said, no, you do have the right to send them back to the legislatures to be rechecked.
Because if you looked at what went on in Wisconsin, who, by the way, now agree with me, Wisconsin has been virtually, other than the fact they're not allowed to do anything statutorily, but Wisconsin has been, I mean, what they found is incredible.
I mean, we won Wisconsin.
But Mike Pence had the right, in my opinion, To send him back.
I think it's a lot easier because I'm so high in the polls because it means the people get it.
The people see it's a fraud.
The people see it like this horrible district attorney.
From just a little while ago, from essentially Atlanta, it's Fulton County.
She said, basically, I don't have any right to challenge an election.
Well, what about Stacey Abrams?
What about Hillary Clinton?
What about all of these Democrats that are still challenging my election?
The same people that are saying he's challenging an election challenged my election.
And they did it with slates.
They did it with all sorts of things.
They were very bad, very bad about it.
But basically, they're suing me, and they're saying, you don't have any right to challenge, and if you challenge an election, we're going to indict you and put you in jail.
So what they're doing is they're really, they've weaponized, and don't kid yourself, the DOJ and Biden and the whole group, they're watching all of this stuff.
They love the local stuff, you know, the DA in Manhattan.
Not only that, they put one of the DOJ top people into the Manhattan DA's office.
To run things.
They don't even have a case against me.
It's not even a case.
Everyone says, even the Democrats say, you can't bring these cases.
You have no case.
The Attorney General or the District Attorney, Fannie, Fannie Willis, in Atlanta, she's getting killed.
Basically, she's saying Trump doesn't have the right to criticize an election.
But you've been around long enough now.
You've seen many elections criticized.
I mean, Hillary Clinton goes crazy.
Every time she talks, she says, he's not the president, Jimmy Carter.
So he's not the president.
I am the president.
Hillary Clinton called me, by the way, 302 in the morning to congratulate me the night of the election.
I didn't say, let's make them little, let's do abbreviations, right?
But they challenged this stuff.
Hillary called me up and conceded.
Now, the word is that Obama said you have to do that.
But she called up and totally conceded.
But now, you know, every time you see her on television, she's saying, like...
Well, she's challenging the election.
So that would mean that she should be indicted, but that would mean also that Stacey Abrams in Georgia should be indicted, because she still thinks she won the election for governor.
There's tremendous passion and there's tremendous love.
You know, January 6th was a very interesting day because they don't report it properly.
I believe it was the largest crowd I've ever spoken before.
And you know some of the crowds I've spoken before.
And like July 4th on the mall, I think they had a million people there.
But I think that the biggest crowd I've ever spoken before was on January 6th.
And people that were in that crowd, a very, very small group of people.
And we said...
Go patriotically and peacefully, peacefully and patriotically, right?
Nobody ever says that.
Go peacefully and patriotically.
But people that were in that crowd that day, a very small group of people went down there, and then there are a lot of scenarios that we can talk about.
But people in that crowd said it was the most beautiful day they've ever experienced.
There was love in that crowd.
There was love and unity.
I have never seen such spirit and such passion and such love.
And I've also never seen, simultaneously and from the same people, such hatred of what they've done to our country.
That was Donald Trump's 47-minute interview with Tucker Carlson.
Our sources at Twitter have been communicating with us.
We are very, very close to Twitter.
That was published on Twitter.
And we have close to 100 million views on that clip alone.
I wanted to shut my trap and let them speak.
There have been some incredible fireworks from that debate.
There was an amazing moment in the Donald Trump...
Tucker Carlson interview where Donald Trump ripped into Joe Biden.
Just destroyed Joe Biden.
I've never seen anything like this.
We have the recap here.
We are going to be bringing you the debate live, but we're going to recap some of the things from Tucker and Trump, because that is far more interesting, I think, right now.
And then we are going to be bringing the debate live to you, along with some of the highlights.
Vivek Ron Swamy has been getting in fights with Mike Pence and Chris Christie.
They've been mauling each other.
But nothing like the mauling that Donald Trump just laid into old, diseased Joe Biden.
Donald Trump there talking about Joe Biden saying he has, he's a man who walks like he's on toothpicks.
He's a skinny, diseased little man.
Donald Trump also didn't hold back when he was talking about Kamala Harris, saying that Kamala Harris speaks in rhyme when she talks about the school buses.
So, Donald Trump and his interview with Tucker Carlson, again, we are communicating directly with X, formerly known as Twitter.
We're on a dead-name Twitter.
They say that this interview has gone bananas, and that it is essentially melting down the platform.
That the Tucker Carlson-Trump interview has already done 100 million views.
And you, of course, were part of that because we played it for you live, along with the GOP debate, which is ongoing right now, and we will be cutting to quite soon here, but I just gotta play one more.
Just gotta play one more, because Tucker Carlson will defeat Fox News in the ratings tonight.
There will be more people.
There already have been more people that watched Trump and Tucker, their interview, than will watch the GOP debate.
There have been some interesting moments and some very good moments, ladies and gentlemen, but nothing like Tucker Carlson going after his old employer, Fox News, saying that the prestigious Chris Wallace is a bitchy little man.
You got people on this stage that won't even talk about issues like Social Security and Medicare.
Vivek, you recently said a president can't do everything.
Well, I got news for you, Vivek.
I've been in the hallway.
I've been in the West Wing.
A president of the United States has to confront every crisis facing America.
I will put our nation back on the path to growth and prosperity and restore fiscal responsibility, just as I did in Congress and as governor and when I was vice president.
I've had enough already tonight of a guy who sounds like ChatGPT standing up here.
And the last person in one of these debates, Brett, who stood in the middle of the stage and said, what's a skinny guy with an odd last name doing up here was Barack Obama, and I'm afraid we're dealing with the same type of amateur standing on stage tonight.
And Chris Christie, honest to God, Your claim that Donald Trump is motivated by vengeance and grievance would be a lot more credible if your entire campaign were not based on vengeance and grievance against one man.
You've never done it like you've never done anything to try to advance the interests of this government except to put yourself forward as a candidate tonight.
And here's the thing.
We stood up for law and order.
I did it as U.S. attorney.
I did it as governor.
And I am not going to bow to anyone when we have a president of the United States who disrespects the Constitution.
He said— Martha, it's important to say that the president said, Donald Trump said, it's okay to suspend the Constitution.
Now, the oath you take is to preserve, protect, and defend, not suspend.
So do you believe We should be asking ourselves a bigger question about the weaponization of the Department of Justice.
When I'm president, the first thing I'll do is fire Merrick Garland.
Second thing I'll do...
Fire Christopher Wray because we need Lady Justice to wear a blindfold.
Without that, no one has confidence in our justicism.
17% of Republicans have confidence in our Department of Justice.
Here's why.
We keep seeing not only the weaponization of the Department of Justice against political opponents, but also against parents who show up at school board meetings.
They're called under this deal, Jay.
They're called domestic terrorists.
Not only that, in addition to that, we see...
The SWAT team show up at pro-life activist homes with guns drawn because this DOJ uses their power, uses their authority, not just against political opponents, but against conservatives and conservative causes.
It is time for a change in America, and I will bring that change to the greatest nation on God's green earth.
Let me just say, Governor DeSantis, we spent an hour talking about policy.
Former President Trump is beating you by 30, 40 points in many polls.
So it is a factor in the GOP primary.
Governor Hutchinson, you did not raise your hand.
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I did not raise my hand because there's an important issue we as a party have to face.
And over a year ago, I said that Donald Trump was morally disqualified from being president again as a result of what happened on January 6th.
More people are understanding the importance of that, including conservative legal scholars who says he may be disqualified under the 14th Amendment from being president again as a result of the insurrection.
He deserves our thanks as Americans for putting his oath of office and the Constitution of the United States before personal, political, and unfair pressure.
And the argument that we need to have in this party, before we can move on to the issues that Ron talked about, is we have to dispense with the person who said that we need to suspend the Constitution to put forward his political career.
Mike Pence said no, and he deserves credit for it.
I've actually given pardons when I was governor of the state of Indiana.
It usually follows a finding of guilt and control.
You know, it's not about looking back at January 2021.
It's about January 20th, 2017.
I put my left hand on Ronald Reagan's Bible.
I raised my right hand.
And I took an oath.
To support and defend the Constitution of the United States.
And it ended with a prayer.
So help me God.
It was a promise that I made to the American people.
His script writers are great.
It made it to my Heavenly Father.
Every day for four years, I sought to keep that oath.
And everyone on this stage needs to make it clear whether or not they'll do the same if they earn this job and the confidence of the American people.
Look, I've made it clear.
I had hoped That the issues surrounding the 2020 election and the controversies around January 6th had not come to this, had not come to criminal proceedings.
I would rather they had been resolved by the American people and the American people alone.
But no one's above the law, and President Trump is entitled to the presumption of innocence that every American is entitled to, and we will make sure and extend that to him.
But the American people deserve to know that the president asked me, In his request that I reject or return votes unilaterally, power that no vice president in American history had ever exercised or taken.
And I think that this is disastrous that we are protecting against an invasion across somebody's border when we should use those same military resources to prevent across the invasion of our own southern border here in the United States of America.
The Russia-China alliance is the single greatest threat we face.
And I find it offensive that we have professional politicians on the stage that will make a pilgrimage to Kiev, to their Pope, Zelensky, without doing the same thing for people in Maui or the south side of Chicago or Kensington.
I think that we have to put the interests of Americans first.
I did go to Ukraine, and I went to Ukraine because I wanted to see for myself what Vladimir Putin's army was doing to the free Ukrainian people.
And let me tell you, I want you all to look around this arena tonight and imagine that every one of these seats was filled.
And if every one of them was filled, there would still be 2,500 more children outside to make over 20,000 who have been abducted, stolen, ripped from their mothers and fathers, and brought back to Russia to be programmed to fight their own families.
They have gouged out people's eyes, cut off their ears, and shot people in the back of the head, men, and then gone into those homes and raped the daughters and the wives who were left as widows and orphans.
If we don't stand up against this type of autocratic killing in the world, we will be next.
Anybody that thinks that we can't solve the problems here in the United States and be the leader of the free world has a pretty small view of the greatest nation on Earth.
We've been the leader of the free world and the arsenal of democracy for years.
The Reagan doctrine years ago made it clear.
We said, if you're willing to fight the communists on your soil, we'll give you the means to fight them there so our troops don't have to fight them.
Vivek, if we do the giveaway that you want to give to Putin to give him his land, it's not going to be too long before he rolls across a NATO border, and frankly, our men and women of our armed forces are going to have to go and fight him.
The reality is that today, Ukraine is not a priority for the United States of America.
And I think that the same people who took us into the Iraq War, the same people who took us into the Vietnam War, you cannot end it.
You cannot start another no-win war.
And I do not want to get to the point where we're sending our military resources abroad when we could be better using them here at home to protect our own borders, protect the homeland.
First of all, the American president needs to have moral clarity.
They need to know the difference between right and wrong.
They need to know the difference between good and evil.
When you look at the situation with Russia and Ukraine, here you have a pro-American country that was invaded by a thug.
So when you want to talk about what has been given to Ukraine, less than 3.5% That's too much!
per GDP 11 of the European countries have given more than the US but what's really important is go back to when China and Russia held hands shook hands before the Olympics and named themselves unlimited partners a win for Russia is a win for China we have to know that Ukraine is the first line of defense for us and the problem that Vivek doesn't understand is He wants to hand Ukraine to Russia.
He wants to let China eat Taiwan.
He wants to go and stop funding Israel.
You don't do that to friends.
What you do instead is you have the backs of your friends.
Ukraine is a front line of defense.
Putin has said, once Russia takes Ukraine, Poland and the Baltics are next.
That's a world war.
We're trying to prevent war.
Look at what Putin did today.
He killed Pergozin.
When I was at the U.N., the Russian ambassador suddenly died.
This guy is a murderer and you are choosing a murderer over a total American country.
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First of all, first of all, Mr. Ramaswamy, you have 30 seconds.
We haven't been talking about it, and we act like that letting Russia win in Ukraine is like a gimme as opposed to a gift to China.
Russia has become China's gas station.
But how would we do it?
The Biden administration is a complete fail.
China imports 10 million barrels of oil a day more than any other country in the world.
They do not even have all the food they need to feed everybody in that country.
So they don't have energy security or food security.
But the Biden administration sends Blinken, Yellen over there.
They don't even bring up energy because they're too busy trying to kill the U.S. energy here.
And what we need to do is not meetings, not press releases, because something that would send a lot more than a press release is actually harpoon missiles.
We need anti-ship missiles on Taiwan.
The way that you have a war never start, which is the goal, the way you have peace through strength, is that you actually have strength.
You actually have deterrence.
And what we have in what we've got going on in Ukraine is an example of when deterrence fail.
What is an example there of Biden's disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan?
The fact that he green lighted Putin moving into Ukraine.
We have to be strong, and we have to be strong both in Ukraine and we can solve the southern border.
Absolutely, we can do that.
Because guess what?
There's only 19,855 authorized people for the Border Patrol.
But they're not all staffed because the Biden administration doesn't enforce law enforcement.
But Biden administration...
We wanted to put 87,000 people in the IRS as opposed to giving the money in this fort we need to our own Border Patrol.
Let's fire the 87,000 IRS agents and hire or double the number of Border Patrol agents.
I just left Yuma, Arizona about two weeks ago.
The most pressing need of the American people from a national security standpoint is our southern border.
It has led to the death of 70,000 Americans because of fentanyl, plus 6 million illegal crossings since President Biden has taken office, and 200 people on our national security watch list have been caught at our border.
How many?
Have not been caught at our southern border.
If we just spend $10 billion, we could finish the wall.
For $5 billion more, we could have the military-grade technology to surveil our southern border to stop the flow of fentanyl and save 70,000 Americans a year.
That should be the priority of this government.
And as the next president of the United States, I will make that border wall.
We've lost 200,000 people to overdoses since Biden took office.
That's 300 people a day.
We're taking mass casualties, and that's a statistic, but these are sons and daughters, nieces and nephews that we're losing.
We've got North Dakota troops down there flying night helicopter missions from San Diego to the Gulf Coast trying to stop these transnational criminal organizations.
So, as president, would you support sending U.S. special forces over the border into Mexico to take out fentanyl labs, to take out drug cartel operations?
Would you support that kind of American military use?
I have to tell you, with all humility, I was there when we negotiated through the government shutdown and got the funding available to build the wall.
I was negotiating on Capitol Hill around the clock.
I negotiated the Remain in Mexico policy on behalf of the President of the United States.
And A.C., you're so right.
It's because we used economic pressure to bring the Mexicans to the table, and they allowed us to have people wait in Mexico while they applied for asylum and ended asylum abuse overnight.
We got the Mexicans to deploy their National Guard to their southern border and to our southern border as never.
And I want to promise you, as President of the United States of America, I will engage Mexico the exact same way, and we will partner with the Mexican military, and we will hunt down and destroy the cartels that are claiming lives in the United States of America.
Then the next thing we need to do with the folks that are here is to, again, as we've talked about all night tonight, we have to have law and order in this country.
We have to enforce the law.
And what that means is to make sure that people who come here illegally are not rewarded for being here illegally.
We have so many wonderful people from around the world who are waiting in line, following the law, to try to come here and pursue the American dream.
And those people are waiting and waiting and waiting because we haven't dealt with the problem of the folks who are here.
We have to have them detained.
We have to make sure that they are not rewarded for having broken the law.
And one last thing on this fentanyl issue.
With China, we can't take our eye off of that ball.
Yes, it's important that we secure the border.
Very important, as I just said.
But China is sending these chemicals to these drug cartels for them to create the fentanyl that is killing hundreds of thousands of our citizens.
The Chinese are engaging in an act of war against us, killing our citizens.
We better make that priority one in our conversations with China and to try to straighten that relationship out, because if we don't, we're going to lose more and more of our citizens.
We have a lot of issues that Americans care about.
Next up, we're going to talk about the crisis in education, as millions of American children are not proficient in reading or math after this.
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Next up, we're going to talk about the crisis in education, as millions of Americans have been in education, as millions of Americans have been in education.
Do you trust our government and where the economy is heading?
And that's what the GOP needs, because, you know...
Everyone else on the stage is kind of just, you know, half-assing their answers and putting their foot in the water without diving in completely and just sticking to their convictions.
So he's the only, like, Trump-esque candidate and, you know, leader that I'm seeing on the stage right now.
First, we had schools open during COVID, and a lot of the problems that we've seen are because these lockdown states lock their kids out of school for a year, year and a half.
That was wrong.
We stood up.
I took a lot of fire for that.
I was pilloried by the media, but I stood for our kids.
And as president, I'll stand for you and your kids as well.
But we have to make sure that what our schools are doing is focusing on solid academics.
In Florida, we eliminated critical race theory from our K-12 school.
We eliminated gender ideology from our K-12 schools.
And we have elevated the importance of American civics in teaching our kids about the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
As president, I'm going to lead an effort to increase civic understanding and knowledge of our Constitution.
We cannot be graduating students that don't have any foundation in what it means to be an American.
You've said that the Department of Education, the FBI, the ATF, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, the IRS, the Department of Commerce, many of these should not exist.
Let's shut down the head of the snake, the Department of Education.
Take that $80 billion.
Put it in the hands of parents across this country.
This is the civil rights issue of our time.
Allow any parent to choose where they send their kids to school.
End the teachers' unions at the local level to allow public schools to compete.
And then revive our national identity where every high school senior should have to pass the same civics test that, frankly, every immigrant, including my mother, had to pass in order to become a citizen of this country.
And the fact of the matter is, look, there's part of education policy that also rests with the family.
I didn't grow up in money.
But you know the word privilege gets used a lot?
Well, you know what?
I did have the ultimate privilege of two parents in the house with a focus on educational achievement.
And I want every kid to enjoy that.
So part of the problem is we also have a federal government that pays single women more not to have a man in the house than to have a man in the house, contributing to an epidemic of fatherlessness.
And I think that goes hand in glove with the education crisis as well, because we have to remember education starts with the family and the nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to mankind.
No, I'm saying in North Dakota, we made a priority of protecting women's sports, and we've done that in our state.
But I would absolutely do that.
But I do think when we start talking about education and we think that we're going to have a federal government, one size fits all, we're just completely losing track of the fact that education differs by state.
Some school districts are doing a fantastic job, some less so.
But the idea that every school district, state, and every teacher is somehow indoctrinating people is just false.
You know, when I was building a company from scratch, you know, with small town kids, and we went, you know, grew up in a town of 300, but we built a global company in 132 countries with over 100,000 customers.
We listened to those customers.
We spent time with them.
We talked to them.
We did that.
And as governor...
Education is one of the biggest part of a state budget.
So as a governor, I go.
I shadow a student.
The night before I find out the student finds out, I'm going to go to every class with them.
I don't sit and lecture school districts how to do it.
I go and see the experience.
And there's a lot of things that have to change.
But what needs to change in education is innovation.
We're doing it the same way we did it 50 years ago with innovation, not regulation.
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Somebody said, hello, Kermit, and I can't unhear it.
I believe in the people of this country to tell the difference between somebody who's an automaton and somebody who's actually a thinking agent in the White House, which we don't have in there today.
And I will tell you, I want to address Vice President Pence's comment.
I think we do need...
...to lead this nation forward.
Look at the way I've run this campaign.
Going to the south side of Chicago, to Kensington, in the middle of Philadelphia, where traditional Republican candidates don't go.
We have an opportunity to build a multi-ethnic, working-class majority to deliver a landslide, and I think I'm the only candidate in this race, young or old, black or white, to bring all of those voters along to deliver a Reagan 1980 revolution.
Governor Hutchinson, you have 30 seconds on the same question.
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On education, first of all, look at Arkansas.
We have to compete with China.
I built computer science education.
We led the nation in computer science education, going from 1,100 students to 23,000 students taking it.
This is how you compete with China.
As President of the United States, I will make sure we go from 51% of our schools offering computer science to every school in rural areas and urban areas offering computer science for the benefit of our kids, Thank you, sir.
I'm somebody that volunteered to serve, inspired by September 11th.
And I deployed to Iraq alongside U.S. Navy SEALs in places like Fallujah, Ramadi.
And it's something that I think has taught me, you know, when you go in that type of environment, anything you have, your personal agenda, you check it at the door.
You go there, and it's about focusing on the mission above all else.
And guys come together, and they get it done.
And that's how I would view Being the president of the United States.
It's not about me.
It's not about all these other side issues.
My sole focus will be on your future and reversing this country's decline.
Governor Christie, would you level with the American people about what the government knows Look, Martha, and especially coming from a woman from New Jersey.
I think it's horrible that just because I'm from New Jersey, you asked me about unidentified flying objects and Martians.
We're different, but we're not that different.
Look, of course, the job of the President of the United States is to level with the American people about everything.
The job of the President of the United States is to stand for truth.
The job of the President of the United States is to be a role model for our children and our grandchildren.
And so whether it was UFOs or this problem of education, and Tim's right, by the way, and I started this in 2010 by going right after the teachers' unions in New Jersey and drove them down to an all-time low popularity rating because they were putting themselves before our kids.
It has been said, and I'm not quite sure who is the person who coined this first, and a lot of people have repeated it, that Vivek is running the campaign that DeSantis could have and should have run, which is where you're kind of like a miniature, younger, more polished Trump, right?
And then you run alongside of Trump.
And if they're to do something terrible to Trump or whatever, at least you don't piss off his base.
At least you don't run against Trump.
And that's what everyone assumed.
And watching this debate, I'm amazed at how true that is.
That Vivek has absolutely become the Trump, Indian Trump, on stage.
And they're attacking him like that, and DeSantis is an afterthought.
No one's even talking about DeSantis, which is wild!
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He's not bringing the heat.
He's not saying anything interesting.
He's saying the same canned lines that he had for his first two gubernatorial campaigns.
I mean, there's nothing new.
There's nothing fresh.
Vivek is exciting.
He's young.
And he's going toe-to-toe with every single one of these candidates on stage.
They're making this into a clown show.
I mean, it's kind of a disaster.
When I'm looking at the comments, the people, the American people, are watching this debate and they're like, this is so embarrassing.
None of these people deserve to be present.
But then you have Vivek and they're all, you know, piling on him and he's going toe to toe with all of them and he's holding his own just in very Trumpian fashion.
I mean, if you're working in the private sector, what's the reason for you to be on TV every day if you're working in the private sector doing your own thing?
...can bring bold ideas to America and to bring out the best of America.
A president's number one responsibility is to bring out the best of our people.
That's what Ronald Reagan did.
And he did it with optimism and hope for our country, with consistent conservatism.
That's exactly what I bring.
As president, I'll bring out the best of America in terms of individual responsibility, building our economy, in terms of securing our border, enforcing the rule of law.
I'll bring out the best of America in terms of our national character, our faith, and our hope for the future.
Look, everybody on this stage wants to be the next president of the United States.
And the only way that's going to happen is if we beat Joe Biden.
I'm the only one on this stage who's ever beaten a Democratic incumbent in an election.
I did it in a deep blue state, being outspent three to one.
Beating a Democratic incumbent is not easy.
The last Democratic incumbent president who was defeated was Jimmy Carter.
And he was defeated by a conservative governor from a blue state who knew how to get results, who stood for the truth, who cared about accountability, and stood strong and hard against waste.
Those are the very things that I did in my eight years as governor of New Jersey.
Several weeks ago, I dropped my husband, Michael, a combat veteran from Afghanistan, off at 4 a.m. for another year-long deployment.
I watched him and 230 soldiers pick up their two duffel bags of belongings to go to a country they had never been, all in the name of protecting America.
Joe Biden has weakened America at home and abroad.
The disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, their war on energy, runaway spending that launched the worst inflation in 40 years, a crisis at our southern border, an assault on our values and liberties, and the American people have had enough.
But I know we can bring it back.
But different times call for different leadership.
The Republican Party owes the American people the choice.
Proven leadership at the national level that knows how to move a conservative agenda forward.
We proved in the Trump-Pence years you can turn this country around faster than you can imagine.
The good, decent, hard-working, faith-filled, idealistic people of this country.
And I have faith that God is not done with America yet.
And if we will renew our faith in one another and renew our faith in Him who has ever guided this nation since we arrived on these wilderness shores, I know the best days for the greatest nation on earth are yet to come.
We were in the middle of the conversation about who lost the most.
I think that Vivek probably gained the most, based on the energy I'm seeing online.
I think that's indisputable.
Who lost the most?
And I would posit out there, yes, people ignored Ron DeSantis, but did that actually hurt Ron DeSantis?
Does Mike Pence, being such a prick, and Chris Christie being such a jackwagon, like on the debate stage, Brett Baer, if you're pissing off Brett Baer, Like, he did that a couple times.
Yeah, I think a lot of people are saying, Pence, you know, that he kind of, as the vice presidential or former vice president, you'd think that he would be the person on the stage with the most to lose.
But a lot of people are saying that Ron DeSantis lost the most.
Because he actually was the person that people had the highest expectations for.
Because for a while, he was the second in the polls.
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But, I mean, Pence getting screamed at, like you said, by Brett Baer.
And then also just like, he had more of a presence than DeSantis.
But I think a lot of people didn't really expect much from Pence, which is why they're not saying he's the biggest loser on the stage.
I think if I had to choose who had the worst style, I would say it was Chris Christie.
He came out overly aggressive to the point where he just looked kind of impulsive and out of control.
Very, very much attacking Vivek, but I think that backfired because Vivek is someone who comes prepared, whereas Chris Christie was sort of flinging arrows everywhere, but no real...
He's not a good tactician, I wouldn't say.
So when people are analyzing who their ex-president is going to be, they want to see someone who can actually be strategic, and I think Chris Christie totally blew it.
People didn't see that leader.
They just kind of saw that child screaming in the playground, but no.
I want to cap off our evening with, of course, the main event, which was Tucker vs.
Trump.
I wanted to notify everyone, if you weren't following along, that ALX has been retweeted by Tucker on X. And so, bravo to ALX, the very rare, most coveted retweet possibly on Earth, the Tucker Carlson retweet.
Since Donald Trump is not on the platform, then it's the Donald Trump retweet.
Boys, that is clearly the dominant newsmaking event of the evening.
There's something interesting about Trump's style with Tucker, where he just seemed extremely relaxed.
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I think what I kind of noticed is Trump is kind of like wise sage now.
You know, like, he's a little less bombastic than he was during the 2016 and 2020 election cycles, and he still has those same zingers, and he's still got his edge, but he just has this, he's assumed this position of, like, wisdom.
I don't know, it's like, he seems much more polished, and he does seem at ease, peaceful, but, like, wise.
Yeah, I mean, I think that is, that actually, it's kind of funny because it's like, he doesn't need to fight anymore, right?
I think he looks at the numbers and he realizes, he's like a very, and he's been there now, and so his tact with Tucker was not combative, right, or jousting.
We've all seen him in that state.
For instance, what was the last time Trump did a thing that was like, primetime, Caitlin Collins, CNN.
That was the first, that was the last big time, like primetime Trump.