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New subpoenas linked to the Hunter Biden investigation.
They focus on allegations of special treatment and political interference.
Lawmakers want to hear from the IRS and FBI employees who they say were at an October meeting where then-U.S.
Attorney David Weiss claimed he was prevented from bringing charges against the president's son.
Mark Meredith, live in Washington on that for us.
How are lawmakers trying to hold the Justice Department accountable, Mark?
Sandra, good afternoon to you.
Well, within the last few minutes, three powerful House Republicans sent a letter to the Justice Department's Inspector General essentially demanding to know what's being done to investigate the claims that you were just talking about from those IRS whistleblowers who were once working on the Hunter Biden case.
The chairman of House Oversight, the Judiciary and Ways and Means Committee say they want assurances that recent whistleblower testimony was not ignored and is being properly investigated.
They sent a letter to the Inspector General, the chairman writing...
Based on your statements and the DOJ's pattern of politically motivated actions, we are concerned that the DOJ is limiting you from fully investigating the disclosures.
On Monday, the Republican majority also issuing a fresh round of subpoenas to four government employees, two with the IRS, two with the FBI.
Congress demanding the agents sit down for a deposition to explain what they knew of alleged limits in the Hunter Biden probe.
Now remember, the first son was expected to plead guilty to tax charges, but the deal was put on hold last month after a federal judge raised questions about how the plea agreement was reached.
Since then, U.S. Attorney in Delaware, David White, Weiss has been appointed as special counsel to continue the entire probe.
Still, some believe Weiss is far from a strong choice based on his past work.
David Weiss has to go.
He cannot be the special counsel in this case.
Every day there's new revelations about Mr. Weiss and the way he's handled this case.
Lawmakers say they plan to demand more answers from the U.S. Attorney, now special counsel, when they return from their August recess.
But, Sandra, given this is still an ongoing investigation, it really is unclear at this point what Congress' next steps may be.
My mom was like, you're gonna look good in prison orange.
She was, like, poking fun at me because she, like, thinks I'm, like, just like a loser.
I still live in her basement and s***, but, like, I told you, Mom.
Thanks, guys.
I appreciate it.
I appreciate it.
benny johnson
What's up with the Hunter Biden?
We're going to cover it all.
We're not going to let the heat up on the Biden crime family, even though it is debate day.
unidentified
We got one heck of a day for you here.
benny johnson
It's Wednesday, August 23rd, 2023.
House committee subpoenas top IRS FBI officials in Hunter Biden tax probe.
Trump is counter-programming Fox News and the entire GOP.
Tonight with Tucker Carlson, and we have some big news for you on that.
We have little birdies that are telling us some very interesting things about what's going to go on.
And also, we have Tucker Carlson's official biographer on the show.
The man with all the answers about what Tucker's going to do next.
What's going to happen tonight with Trump?
Boy, we're going to preview it all for you.
Chadwick Moore is his name, and he's the author of Tucker, a biography.
My name is Benny Johnson, and this is The Benny Show.
Tonight, baby, tonight, we're gonna show you exactly what we are building here.
We are so excited about what's gonna happen tonight.
We're gonna preview it for you right now, and of course, we're gonna be welcoming onto the show some people who know exactly what's up.
There is a massive, massive play right now to...
Try and keep some type of relevance inside of the corporate catch-and-kill style GOP media ecosystem.
Now, what do I mean by that?
What I mean by that is there are large corporations that hate you, that don't like you, that don't want you to have a voice, don't want you to have media, don't want you to have the capacity to choose your candidates.
And they try and frame the debate.
They try and corrupt the debate.
You could recognize, ALX, can you grab the original Trump question from Fox News with Megyn Kelly?
It's worth doing.
I hate doing this to sweet producer ALX, but it's so important to remember how this all started.
This Fox News versus Trump.
It all started with the debate question from Megyn Kelly, starting off the first debate.
In Cleveland, Ohio, how do I remember this so crisp?
Because I was like two feet away!
I was standing literally under the stage with Donald Trump, answering his first question at the first debate held by Fox News in Cleveland, Ohio, in a massive sports arena, where I think the Cleveland Cavaliers, the NBA team play, and Donald Trump was asked the first question.
He was center stage.
He was only polling at like 8% at the time, by the way.
Everyone thought that Donald Trump, this was a joke.
They thought it was a fraud.
They thought it wasn't real.
And Donald Trump answers his first question for Megyn Kelly and changes politics forever.
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Watch.
One of the things people love about you is you speak your mind and you don't use a politician's filter.
However, that is not without its downsides, in particular when it comes to women.
You've called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals.
Your Twitter account...
Only Rosie O'Donnell.
No, it wasn't.
Your Twitter account...
Thank you.
benny johnson
Come on, baby.
Come on!
You love Trump?
You hate Trump?
I don't care.
You'll never get another one like him.
You'll never get another one like him.
And in that moment, the curtain was ripped.
Alright?
The separation was ripped.
The anchors had all the power.
The anchors had all the power and the corporations had all the power.
And I was standing under the stage and the only reason I bring that back up is not to say that I was anything important or that I...
It was just...
There's something that you can't...
There's words that cannot encapsulate.
The power of that moment and the deafening roar of the audience.
You know, they have these big sound tables in the back where they can actually lower the amount of cheering.
And it was like an ear-piercing roar when Donald Trump said, only Rosie O'Donnell.
Like, you couldn't hear anything else.
You couldn't hear Megyn Kelly.
The rafters were shaking.
The lights were shaking.
The electricity flickered.
I mean, it really was something.
It was like a historic moment.
And so Donald Trump is doing that again tonight.
Donald Trump's doing that again tonight, ladies and gentlemen.
Donald Trump is going to change debates forever by going to Tucker Carlson and doing a counter-programming to a debate in Milwaukee.
We, as the Benny Brigade, will be on live.
Starting at around 8.30.
The debate's at 9 o 'clock.
We're going to be on live.
And we're going to be covering both.
How are we going to do that?
You're going to have to wait and see.
We're going to be covering both.
Now, little birdies inside of Tucker Carlson's team have been telling us what's going to happen.
And I've got to tell you, the main event for us is going to be Trump and Tucker.
But we're going to be monitoring both at the same time, and so it'll be a really great...
And we won't miss any of the news.
We'll have our entire producing team on.
We have an incredible slate of guests that will be joining us tonight.
And so a preview for what's to come.
We'll be going live around 8.30 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
The debate's at 9 p.m. Eastern Standard Time in Milwaukee.
And we're going to have both.
Donald Trump is...
Donald Trump is...
Do we have Trump's truth?
Saying man sparks are going to fly here on the debate tonight.
Donald Trump is tossed up on truth.
Hey.
Watch me and Tucker Carlson tonight.
This is Donald Trump counter-programming just like he did in the first debate he ever had with Megyn Kelly.
unidentified
Only Rosie O'Donnell.
benny johnson
Watch.
Sparks will fly, Donald Trump says.
So we're going to be covering both.
And more importantly, you're not going to miss anything.
Because we're going to have our whole producing team on.
We're going to have everyone ready to go.
We're going to have special guests joining.
It's going to be awesome.
And Donald Trump has also...
Shared a little bit of a troll at Fox News.
Now, of course, joining with Tucker Carlson to do counter-programming to Fox, that's troll enough.
But Donald Trump has posted an advertisement for Fox News promoing their debate.
And, I mean, I'm not exactly sure if this is a parody or not.
You can barely tell these days.
I'll let you watch and decide.
unidentified
Even though President Trump is kicking everyone's ass in the primary polls.
We're still trying to set him up with our bullshit Republican primary debate.
I mean, maybe he'll show up.
And we're just hoping everyone takes shots at him so we can help Ron DeSantis.
benny johnson
Because we're Fox News.
unidentified
And we suck.
And we don't really give a shit.
benny johnson
About our viewers'opinion.
unidentified
We only care about getting a big fat paycheck.
And about not getting fired like Tucker Carlson.
The first Republican primary debate by Martha McCallum and Brett Baier.
jesse watters
Because we're Fox News and we suck.
unidentified
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
benny johnson
Okay, okay, you're all gonna be like, Benny, but you used Fox News clips during your show.
Yeah, I mean, listen, this is what we do.
We're the referees here, alright?
Like, we're the referees here.
We're gonna tell it like it is.
I'll never forgive Fox News for doing Tucker dirty like they did.
You guys know I worked for Tucker.
You guys know that I'm, like, I love that man, alright?
I'm not his biographer.
We're gonna have his biographer joining the show.
But I love Tucker Carlson.
And I deeply appreciate the populist moment that Tucker Carlson brought to Fox, and by Fox firing him in the dark of night, not even giving him a chance.
Think about this.
They didn't even give him a chance to, like, say goodbye to his audience.
Like, what an insult to you.
What an insult to me.
I watched religiously every single night.
Maybe you did, too.
I hope you did.
And so doing that to Tucker and doing that to us was an insult to the audience, which you cannot do.
And then Bongino, obviously, you know, they parted ways with Bongino at the same time.
They sort of cleared out and cleaned out all the populists.
And so I'm not going to forgive Fox for that.
I'm not.
I won't.
I won't.
There are still good people that work at Fox.
I like Jesse Waters.
You know, there are still good people.
We're just going to call balls and strikes.
We're going to chop wood.
And so I think that advertisement is hilarious.
Tonight you're going to see something incredible that we're going to put together for you.
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Okay, so let's preview this debate.
Trump surrogates say that the Republican primary is over!
And that now, this is a debate of who can be Donald Trump's vice president.
Do you agree with that?
I mean, listen, guys.
I have polling.
I have some crazy polling.
That shows yesterday.
Dude, like...
I mean, Donald Trump, not only, like, walking away with it in the Republican primary, Donald Trump is beating Joe Biden by five points yesterday in a 538 poll.
That's crazy, man!
538 poll, and Donald Trump's beating Joe Biden.
Beating Joe Biden.
Crazy stuff.
Guys, I mean, what are you doing now?
What are you doing?
Now, there's a really interesting sub-tab of that poll that says that independents...
People with no political affiliation.
Donald Trump is beating Joe Biden by 16 points.
Because, yo, like, the people who are just, like, going to work and not really particularly partisan, they're like, was it better five years ago?
And they're all like, yeah, yeah, I could afford a house, I could afford food.
And so those people, Donald Trump is walking away with it.
So the Republican Party is going to spend a billion dollars going after their best candidate?
Don't make no sense to me.
But, hey, that's just me.
There's something funny about this.
There's something funny about this graphic.
So if you go back to this article, the graphic that's being produced by the Trump surrogates, they say that the primary is over.
Who would you like to see in the vice presidential debate?
Is there any way we can make that bigger, Royce?
Check this out.
This is like a kind of funny little extra troll.
Can you click on the image?
No, okay.
All right.
They put a fly on Mike Pence's head.
That's it.
That's all I wanted to show you.
It's funny.
LOL.
Expect lots of trolling.
In that image, there's a fly on Mike Pence's head.
But would you like to see Vivek?
Would you like to see any of these people on screen?
Like, would you like to see any of them as Donald Trump's vice president?
You want to see someone else?
Let me know in the comment section.
You want to see Tucker Carlson?
There's Mike Pence.
There's a little fly on there.
Not sure you can see it.
We do a little trolling.
That's what they say.
We do a little trolling.
unidentified
So...
benny johnson
Who is ready for tonight?
The 2024 presidential race to look at the candidates that made the cut for the first Republican debate.
Who will be on stage?
Well, Donald Trump, of course, was welcome, but Donald Trump said, no, no, no.
I'm not going to sit there and let you, essentially.
What it would be is it would be like a giant Trump bashing fest, and that's what they want.
They want to bring Donald Trump in so that Mike Pence can have his Mike Pence-iest Pence moment and be like, you this and you that.
And everyone can attack Trump.
Because you actually do have a couple of members of Trump's administration here.
Can you scroll down, please?
So you have Donald Trump in, Ron DeSantis, Tim Scott, Nikki Haley, Vivek, Mike Pence, Doug Burgum, who is the governor of North Dakota, Asa Hutchinson, Chris Christie, people who didn't make the cut, Larry Elder, and a bunch of guys who, I don't know, it looks like a banking convention.
I don't know.
That goofball Will Hurd.
Like, the CIA has stopped, like, trying to...
Will Hurd is a CIA agent.
The CIA has effectively stopped trying to, like, rig our elections, and now they're just straight up running CIA agents for president.
Will Hurd is such a joke.
So, yeah, so this is what the debate stage is going to look like.
Expect everyone to go after Ron DeSantis then, because then Ron DeSantis is the big.
And by most polling, Ron DeSantis is in the number two spot, so they're going to go after Ron DeSantis.
Expect Vivek or Tim Scott to look for their breakout moments.
The breakout moments is going to come, obviously, with Vivek.
I know that guy pretty well.
He and I have done some work together.
He's a great, great debater.
Vivek Ranswamy has been warming up for this.
He's posting, like, workout photos and videos with his wife.
And I think he's ready to go.
Now, people who will not be ready to go are going to be the Trump surrogates.
So, the GOP has banned Trump surrogates.
Do we have that article, Kim Guilfoyle?
GOP has banned Trump surrogates from attending the debate.
So this is pretty interesting.
Because Donald Trump won't be there, the Trump surrogates won't be able to go through the green room, or the, you know, the rumble room, effectively.
So that's the room where everyone goes, and the media goes there to, like, ask questions of the candidates and their surrogates after the debate.
Donald Trump is banned.
So, Kim Guilfoyle and Don Jr. will be up there, obviously, massive...
Social media personalities, obviously massive media personalities.
They won't be allowed in.
Kim Guilfoyle saying, you're going to have to stop me.
Ooh, baby!
Expect the fireworks.
Expect that sizzle tonight.
Kim Guilfoyle vows that she and Donald Trump Jr. will be at the Republican debate, even though the RNC has banned them from going in.
So we are going to have people at the debate.
Again, thank you for supporting the betting brigade.
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Not only do we do philanthropic work, like we talked about yesterday, where we helped find the lid that set a Trump sign on fire and we gave a $5,000 reward to the person who found the lid.
That's you.
You and I found that lid together in Raleigh, North Carolina.
And he cried when he was arrested.
Not only can we do philanthropic work together, we have people now on the ground that will be delivering direct news content for you and me.
It's great.
So we're going to have somebody from our staff, Jamie Mitchell.
She happens to live in Milwaukee.
She's going to be there at the debate, full access pass, and she's going to be bringing us the sights and sounds and all the behind the scenes.
So if Don Jr. and Kimberly Guilfoyle throwed out, right, throwed out and get in a fight with security or whatever, chances are our team, the brigade, is going to have someone right there filming it, and we'll have the footage first.
It's going to be awesome tonight.
Really, really excited about it.
Donald Trump.
It's going to be on with Tucker Carlson, okay?
So Donald Trump is going to be...
There's going to be an interview.
This was a pre-taped interview.
But we're going to run it live because we're going to be watching it live with you, right?
So we're going to run it live.
And so we're going to have both screens going and we're going to be breaking in with news.
We're going to sort of be like...
Bringing the breaking news in from the debate.
But really, we're going to have Tucker and Trump as the main event because that's what people really want to see because Donald Trump's doing 60% in the poll.
Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson are going to have one heck of a conversation tonight.
It's going to be very, very interesting.
We've gotten some previews on it.
We're really, really excited about it.
And then tomorrow, Donald Trump is going to be booked in the Fulton County Jail.
Trump says that he will proudly be arrested tomorrow in Georgia on election fraud cases.
The ex-president's imminent surrender is poised to overshadow the first GOP debate.
So this is where we're going to be tomorrow.
Tomorrow, Donald Trump is going to be getting a mugshot.
Now, they've been leaking out some of these mugshots.
Rudy Giuliani is surrendering today.
You've got to surrender, you've got to get booked, and then they give you a summons date.
And so Donald Trump is going to be getting a mugshot tomorrow in Fulton County.
It's like, thanks!
Thanks for the extra, like, 20 points in the polls.
It's incredible.
ALX, can you grab that 538 poll?
If we don't already have it in the script, let me know.
So, like, there's polling out now showing that Donald Trump is, like, from leftists, leftist pollsters saying that Donald Trump is, like, doing commanding, commanding numbers.
Over Joe Biden.
Over Joe!
Not just in the Republican primary debate.
So, I mean, I guess keep arresting the guy.
Of course, every lawyer, even the governor of Georgia, none of these trials are going to even happen before the 2024 election.
So, what are you going to do?
Guy's going to become president and just pardon himself.
Does Donald Trump have a pocket pardon that he signed?
Hmm, interesting.
Some little birdies have been telling us that.
That maybe Donald Trump has a pocket pardon and all this stuff is just trash anyway.
We'll see.
Something that's not trash is the ad that Donald Trump released in the moments after this indictment was announced in Georgia.
The ad that Donald Trump released was extremely powerful.
We highlighted it, but it's worth highlighting one more time.
This is the messaging to blow through this primary process, as clearly the data is showing Donald Trump is doing right now.
unidentified
Watch.
Is how much he will bear for a cause which he knows to be right.
How long will he stand in the depths of despair?
How much will he suffer and fight?
There are many to serve when the victory is near, and few are the hurts to be borne.
But it calls for a leader of courage to cheer the men in a battle for law.
It is the way you hold out against odds that are great, that proves what your courage is worth.
It is the way that you stand to the bruises of fate, that shows up your stature and girth.
And victory is nothing but proof of your skill, veneered with a gloryless thin.
unless it is a proof of unfaltering will, and unless you have suffered to win.
Thank you.
you you So we'll see.
benny johnson
We'll see what's up.
We'll see what's up tonight.
It's exciting.
I will let you know we haven't been given any type of, even though we've asked, we haven't been given the interview or anything.
So it's up to us.
For you, we've been going to Tucker's team and being like, hey, can you give us a sneak peek and everything like that?
We're going to be watching it fresh with you.
We're going to be watching it fresh with you at the same time as the debate.
The debate starts at 9pm.
So there we go.
That's how it's going to work.
We wanted an embargoed copyright.
We're trying.
It's our obligation to make sure that you are, it's our obligation to make sure that you are the, that we are the most prepared for these lives.
And so, here we go.
Here's the polling, ladies and gentlemen, that's showing that Donald Trump, the leftist polling, showing that Trump is beating!
Beating!
Joe Biden by five points.
Look at that.
New national poll.
Now, where is this from?
Is this from BennyPolling.org, where I just poll my relatives?
No, man!
This is from FiveThirtyEight.
This is from, like, the libs, who, like, have a 20-point advantage built into Joe Biden for every poll.
Whoa!
We did an entire show yesterday on how utterly unpopular Joe Biden is all around the globe, but also in Hawaii.
How Joe Biden was flipped off by people in Hawaii, a state that hasn't voted for a Republican in my lifetime.
I'm 37. And here comes, you know, here comes, like, here comes Donald Trump saying, yo, Hawaii, vote for me.
And I'm telling you, man, watching the videos that were coming out of Hawaii yesterday, I think that Hawaii may vote for Donald Trump.
That's my, I'm not a pollster.
My prediction is that Hawaii may go Trump in 2024.
I mean, I'm telling you, man.
I'm telling you.
It's gonna happen.
Now, ladies and gentlemen, we are sad that we're not going to get moments, some of our favorite moments of Donald Trump.
We're at the debates.
Obviously the debates with Hillary Clinton were things of legend, but Donald Trump clearing out the establishment Republicans, really, really impressive stuff in 2016.
We're going to end our debate segment of today's show, but we're going to cap it off with possibly our favorite moment of Donald Trump at the debates with Jeb Bush.
It was Donald Trump versus Jeb Bush.
Now, at this point, most of the Republican primary process had fallen away.
I believe this debate was in South Carolina.
This was maybe five or six months into the primary process.
A lot of the people who were running for president had already dropped out.
Iowa had happened.
And Jeb Bush was sort of the last man standing between Donald Trump and the abyss, okay?
And the capacity of Donald Trump...
The superpower of Donald Trump is that he's been a celebrity for 50 years.
That is the superpower of Donald Trump.
And his ability to handle the media and to handle the harshness of the questioning and to handle the establishment and to just kick their asses.
Quite literally, what I'm about to show you is Donald Trump kicking Jeb Bush's ass off the stage.
So much happens between here and then that it's hard to actually remember.
It's easy to forget these moments.
But it's worth a rewatch.
This is what we're missing out on tonight, but this is the energy.
Watch Donald Trump in 2016 summarily usher off, usher out the Bush family from the Republican Party.
Go.
unidentified
This is a tough business to run for president.
Oh, I know.
benny johnson
You're a tough guy, Jeb.
ron johnson
And we need to have a leader that is principled.
unidentified
You're never going to be president of the United States by insulting your way to the presidency.
Well, let's see.
jim jordan
I'm at 42, and you're at 3. So, so far, I'm doing better.
unidentified
Doesn't matter.
ron johnson
So far, I'm doing better.
benny johnson
You know, you started off over here, Jeb.
unidentified
You're moving over further and further.
Pretty soon, you're going to be off the end.
This doesn't do a thing to solve the problem.
ron johnson
It doesn't do a thing to solve the problem.
unidentified
Hugh, go ahead.
benny johnson
So what you got there, it's amazing, right?
If you read the scriptures and you read the Bible, then what you'll realize is that these princelings and these kings, it is a wonderful irony of the way that God put the universe together, where he humbles powerful men.
And he brings them low.
King Saul was literally struck dumb and had to go live like an animal.
Eat grass, right?
And I believe that there is, like, a sweet irony to the way that God designed the universe and that he enjoys, our God enjoys, when people who come from these privileged, entitled families like the Bushes got brought low, when Megyn Kelly got brought low, when Fox News is now getting humbled and crushed.
I believe there's some type of, like, sweet...
Justice to that.
Some rightness in the universe.
Some balance inside of the universe in these moments.
And they're special to watch.
And it's neat to be a part of.
And that's our perspective on these things.
Of course, no Trump debate segment here would be complete without the greatest moment in any debate that you will watch now into eternity.
Okay?
Nothing will ever top this.
Again, this is what we're missing by Trump not being on the debate stage.
But at least we have these precious moments, these sweet, warm embers that you could just watch again and again and again, again.
And in your sleep, you could just say, as you drift off and stare at the stars and the moon, you'd be in jail.
hillary clinton
It's just awfully good that someone with the temperament of Donald Trump is not in charge of the law in our country.
unidentified
Because you'd be in jail.
Secretary Clinton.
*crowd cheers* Just...
Thank you.
Just...
benny johnson
Okay.
You gotta hear it out from me.
The people that are chosen to come to these debates are the regular hoi polloi, okay?
They're, like, if the debate is in Cleveland, they'll go and they'll get, like, a mix of people from Cleveland, okay, business owners and bankers, and people that, you know, run, you know, run a, some shop somewhere.
They have a small section of partisans, right?
You can bring, like, ten people to the debate.
Those are your people.
This is Donald Trump's family.
Hillary brings her people.
So the fact that when Donald Trump said that, the entire debate hall screamed!
unidentified
Woo!
benny johnson
That's so awesome!
He turned, like, what should be, the reason I'm saying this is that, like, he turned a debate hall that should be technically favoring Hillary Clinton.
I mean, she was beating him by like 20 points.
Beating him by like 20 points.
Like, he turned the entire room against her.
That's how unpopular she was, that witch.
And so at least we have those moments.
Remember the good times.
Remember the good times.
Like, we have those moments.
And so we're thankful for Donald Trump.
Donald Trump says sparks will fly about tonight.
Again.
Thank you for your support.
Thank you, Benny Brigade.
We're going to be out here.
We're going to be hustling, grinding.
You should watch this show tonight.
We'll be live, and we'll bring you both.
We'll bring you both, and we won't miss a thing.
All right?
We won't miss a thing.
We're faster, quicker, and better than anyone else out there.
And so we're going to rock and roll tonight.
Ladies and gentlemen, why is Joe Biden so unpopular?
And we're going to get to some Joe Biden crime stories here in just one second.
Well, he's particularly unpopular because he's made your savings worthless.
Now, what do I mean by that?
If the dollar...
Can just be printed, and they can print as many dollars as they need today, then the dollar is worthless.
If you can just summon, out of thin air, your own currency, and there's no value associated with it, there's no limiting factor associated with it, this is Keynesian economics, neo-Keynesian economics is nightmarish, it's disastrous, it's debt economics, you can never run your household like this, it's gonna lead to something terrible, okay?
This is why I encourage you, please, take a little bit of your savings and invest in gold.
As a guy who does it myself, as a guy who has my little sweet Allegiance Gold with me right here in the studio, as a guy who does it myself, it is nice to have some security to feel that weight in your hand and have just a little bit of gold.
A little bit of silver.
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You know, if you don't have, if your savings are worth nothing, well, it's very easy to control.
If they, like, make all of us poor, then it'll be a lot easier to control us.
I think that's part of the calculation here.
So, the Biden Department of Justice, if you can even call it that anymore, admits that there are limitations to open an investigation into the whistleblower bombshell of Hunter Biden's probe and politicization.
Oh my, what are these limitations?
So the DOJ now admits that they may not be able to look into the whistleblower claims, you see, because, well, everything else is on fire in this regime, and we're just going to try and push it over the finish line and hope that Donald Trump is in jail.
That's it.
That's the plan.
Every time you think these guys have, like, a good plan, every time you think that there's, like, that evil is smart and they could outwit us, Well, to wit, they are not.
They are stupid.
And it's amazing to, like, see how stupid these people actually are.
So they have been outmatched by the Republicans in Congress.
That is clear.
And you should feel a little bit of pride in yourself and your party because the Republicans in Congress are telling us, hey, we're getting ready for impeachment here.
I had a kumbaya moment with a number of members of Congress, big names.
Famous names you've seen on TV last week in Nashville after a big Trump speech.
And I brought them all together and I'm like, you've got to tell me everything.
Dude, impeachment's happening.
They're going to do it.
They're going to do it.
You should be proud of these Republicans.
They've actually put the pressure on the regime and have broken the regime.
The regime is in flames right now.
It's a beautiful thing.
The inspector general of the Department of Justice, a guy named Horowitz, is straight up saying, it's so corrupt we can't even investigate our own corruption.
This is what happened in the Soviet Union.
This is what happens to all these corrupted structures.
They become so heavy and so weighted on top.
Remember, biblical justice, right?
The corruption eventually eats itself.
It eventually collapsed.
The structures cannot withhold the amount of corruption.
This is what's happening with the Bidens right now.
Pride cometh before destruction, of course.
Is something that we like to say often on this program.
And the inspector general is being like, I don't even know where to start.
These people are such rats.
I don't even know which hole to go down.
Watch.
unidentified
All right.
sean hannity
Our two-tiered system of justice strikes yet again.
According to reports, DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz now has informed Congress that a, quote, potential jurisdictional issue...
May prevent him from investigating whistleblower complaints, alleging a cover-up in the Hunter Biden criminal probe.
So, is the DOJ limiting its own inspector general from fully investigating?
What are serious allegations of preferential treatment for Hunter Biden?
benny johnson
Well, Ron Johnson has this to say.
Ron Johnson, one of our favorite senators from Wisconsin, saying, wait a second, so it's so corrupt, so you're so corrupt, the guy who's supposed to investigate your corruption can't even investigate your corruption.
Got it?
sean hannity
Would you see any jurisdictional conflicts for Michael Horowitz?
Because I really don't quite get it.
ron johnson
No, I would really be interested in knowing what he's claiming.
As I've stated in the past, Sean, federal law enforcement and federal agencies in general have done a great job at insulating themselves from congressional oversight and public scrutiny.
I'd even argue from the management of a Republican president.
So these folks are the law.
They view themselves as above the law.
And I've got to give a huge shout-out to John Solomon for continuing to piece together these pieces of the puzzle, just give us a clearer view, you know, through his sources, through FOIA requests, that type of thing.
It's great to go back there.
Something else we ought to note is, you know, the State Department was singing Shokin's praises in June, in the summer of 2015.
Then Ambassador Pyatt gave a speech where he basically nudged Shokin to start investigating Burisma, and Shokin did.
And so it was that aggressive, You know, investigation into Burisma that panicked Hunter Biden and then really, I think, caused the turnaround in Joe Biden's attitude toward Shoken and the billion-dollar loan guarantee.
Again, totally responsive to what Hunter's concerns were because Hunter's making millions of dollars being on that board.
benny johnson
So they're trying to, like, drown you in acronyms.
They're trying to drown you in procedure.
Don't let them do it.
I got the dish for you, okay?
So.
I'm backstage with all these Republican members of Congress.
They're all huddled around me.
And I'm like, yo, guys, what's actually going to happen?
So you got to tell me.
You got to tell me.
I'm not going to lie to the betting brigade.
I will never lie to my audience.
What's going to happen?
unidentified
Are you going to impeach this son of a beach?
benny johnson
Are you going to...
I said beach, like Maui, you see.
Like a burned beach.
That's Joe Biden.
Said was hot ground yesterday.
Yes, hot ground.
See that?
Oh, and remember, Joe Biden once had a...
Joe Biden was cooking a hungry man microwavable dinner, and the brownie caught on fire in his microwave once, so you should also feel sorry for him.
He almost lost his cat in his Corvette.
He, he, he.
Jack wagon.
I said, I'm not gonna go out and say impeachment, impeachment, impeachment if you're not gonna impeach.
Now, there were some, like...
There were some people who weren't, like, hardcore in there, in this group of congressmen.
What I mean by that is, like, there were people that are not, like, the MAGA Freedom Caucus guys, like very middle-of-the-road Republicans.
And those guys looked me in the eyeball and said, nope, we are impeaching.
Here's how it's going to happen.
As soon as we get back, they're in an August recess right now.
It must be awesome.
Can you take a recess from your job?
Can we take a recess, Bryce?
Do we just get, like, months off?
I don't know.
Congress gets months off and gets paid for it.
I don't get it.
So Congress takes August recess, and they are going to come back in September, and Jim Jordan's immediately going to start an impeachment inquiry.
That's how it's going to go down, according to what I have been told directly by multiple members of Congress.
Jim Jordan's going to start an impeachment inquiry.
Jim Jordan is a buttoned-up kind of dude.
He's a championship wrestler.
He's an athlete.
He's a champion.
He's somebody who isn't going to mess with you.
He has never lied to you.
Jim Jordan is one of the very, very good straight arrows.
You know that.
Great defender of Donald Trump as well.
Jim Jordan is going to button up in this impeachment inquiry the articles of impeachment.
And they're not sure what those are going to look like just yet.
Probably going to be focused on the bribery.
Because bribery is there in Article 2, Section 4, as we talk about all the time.
The bribery is the tip-top of what you can impeach a president for.
Remember, Article 2, Section 4. Article 2, Section 4. I'm never going to drown you in acronyms or fancy names or anything like that.
It's all bogus.
It's all meant to distract you.
All you need to know is that it's a simple dish.
Article 2, Section 4. Bribery.
Do we have our graph?
Do we have our little chart?
So, bribery is what we're going to charge Joe Biden with.
Jim Jordan's going to button those up, those articles up, then he's going to send them to the House floor.
House floor is going to probably wait until after Christmas.
To impeach Joe Biden.
That's what I have been told.
That's what I have been told.
In case you need our handy little charts, we do our best here at the Benny Brigade to give you the charts, to give you the simple information that you can take to your Thanksgiving dinner table, to your drunk, liberal, childless, short-haired, nose-ring, wine-aunt with red teeth, and she's going to be there.
Blackout at Thanksgiving, be like, Donald Trump's got to jail!
And you can just show her this chart!
And then you can show her Article 2, Section 4. And be like, nope, this is how bribery works.
This is a bribery scam from Joe Biden, and Joe Biden deserves to be impeached.
So Jim Jordan's gonna come over the top with a ton of subpoenas, I was told.
He's gonna start bringing in the people who were protecting the Bidens.
That's how you apply pressure.
That's how you put your shoulder to the wheel.
Jim Jordan's going to start bringing those people in.
I was told that a week ago.
Ooh, boy, what news dropped this morning?
Well, check this out.
From Jim Jordan, I'm going to begin subpoenaing top IRS and FBI officials in the Hunter Biden tax probe.
We're going to put our shoulder to the wheel.
Check this out.
jim jordan
But for these whistleblowers, that sweetheart deal would have been even sweeter.
They weren't even going to require Hunter Biden plead guilty to anything.
This is how bad this was.
And what we want to do, Sean, is we want to talk to the folks who were in the meeting.
These whistleblowers come forward.
They changed history, as John Solomon just pointed out.
What prompted them to come forward?
This meeting, October 7th, 2022.
You got David Weiss, you got Gary Shapley, the whistleblower, and four other people in that meeting.
We want to talk to those four other people because that's the meeting that Gary Shapley said.
That was the red line meeting when I decided there was no way this investigation was going to do the right thing.
We had to come forward and talk to Jason Smith, Chairman Smith's team at the Ways and Means Committee.
And then they came forward and their testimony, unlike the White House's story, unlike the DOJ, their testimony has stood up and they've appeared entirely credible.
benny johnson
Let's bring in the whistleblowers.
We are going to—I'm going to let you know, like, where we're going as a show here.
We are going to make heroes out of these men.
They should be on the cover of every magazine.
They should be seen as, like, the beacons of hope inside of our public service.
Gary Schlapple should be a name known across America as, like, a man who stood against the machine, who fought true and endemic corruption.
And we are going to lionize Gary Schlafly on this show.
Gary Schlafly is a whistleblower.
He's the person who blew up this entire scheme.
We know now from the emails.
On Monday, we went through all the lawyers' emails.
And we should do that.
We should do another show on that because there's so much in there.
Hunter Biden's lawyers are such sleazebag rats that they went and they gave all the emails to the New York Times and Politico.
And we went line by line and you could see.
That it was the whistleblowers who actually blew up all of this deal.
We thank these men.
Gary Schlafly saying, yo, yo, yo, yo, wait a second.
David Weiss cannot be the special counsel here.
That's what they're arguing now.
Because David Weiss is the man behind the machine.
Watch.
unidentified
I documented exactly what happened, and it doesn't seem to match what...
benny johnson
The Attorney General or the U.S. Attorney are saying today.
unidentified
Shapley provided lawmakers this contemporaneous email he wrote after an October meeting last year.
Shapley says Weiss told him the opposite, that Weiss is not the deciding person on whether charges are filed.
benny johnson
And David Weiss didn't do anything about it.
So David Weiss allowed Merrick Garland to lie again and again and again.
And now David Weiss is put as the special counsel.
First off, that's illegal.
You have to appoint a special counsel outside of the DOJ.
David Weiss works for the DOJ right now.
I don't know how people aren't raising this claim, and we will perhaps later.
You can't appoint a special counsel from inside of the DOJ.
That's the point of a special counsel.
Mark Light, who is the lawyer for the whistleblowers, is saying as much.
Watch.
unidentified
My overall reaction with all of this information that's come out from the political and New York Times articles are that David Weiss has to go.
He cannot be the special counsel in this case.
Every day there's new revelations about Mr. Weiss and the way he's handled this case.
It's come out now that he first thought there should be no charges in this case.
Then he reacted when the whistleblowers came out and came up with this special deal, the two misdemeanors.
With no jail time.
And then we hear threats.
There are documents that show the defense team were threatening to put President Biden on the stand.
And to say that's a threat, it really shows that, you know, what is that going to accomplish?
The head of the executive branch would be testifying in a trial against the Department of Justice.
It means Weiss has to go and a special counsel from outside the government, outside the Department of Justice.
Ooh, baby.
benny johnson
It's gonna get hot.
It's gonna get spicy in Washington, D.C. We often say D.C. in panic.
D.C. is literally in panic now.
They're legitimately in panic.
Now people are starting to look and look back into the histories of the Biden family and ask themselves, wait a second, why was this guy ripping lines?
Off the peanut gallery inside of Air Force Two.
What the hell is Hunter Biden doing on all these Air Force Two trips?
Wait a second.
Hunter Biden was on this Air Force Two.
Why are there no photos?
Why are they sneaking Hunter Biden in and out of the plane?
You know, if you come home from working late and you see someone sneaking out of your house, is that a good thing or a bad thing?
Good thing or bad thing?
You see someone like in the dark, like sneaking out of the back door.
Good thing or bad thing?
Not a good thing.
Jesse Waters detailing last night, like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a second.
We know that Hunter went to China, but did you know that he went on, like, dozens of other flights?
That he was essentially, like, permanently at Joe's side on his official trips?
And that they went out of their way to hide Hunter Biden?
Made him travel with the cargo.
And get off the plane, out of the back.
What does that say?
Watch.
jesse watters
Back in February of 2013, Vice President Biden went to Berlin, Germany.
There's Jill with him.
Oh, wait, who's that?
Oh, that's Hunter.
There he is, getting in the limo.
What was Hunter Biden doing in Germany?
Well, Joe was there for the Munich Security Conference.
That's the same security conference that took the lead role in the Ukraine war.
And at this conference, China was a major issue.
Ironically, it was those two countries that ended up paying Hunter Biden.
Just months later, Vice President Joe Biden invited his son Hunter back onto Air Force Two for a trip to Asia.
First stop, Japan.
No sign of Hunter on the tarmac, but somehow there he is in the back of the limo.
What's he doing in Japan?
We don't know.
And the next day, Air Force Two took Joe and Hunter to China.
The infamous trip where Joe Biden shook hands with Hunter's Chinese client in the lobby of a Beijing hotel.
After that handshake, a $25 million deal materialized between China and the Biden clan.
And it doesn't stop there.
There's Hunter again.
This time in the back of a limo in South Korea the day after his China trip.
And there's no footage of him getting off the plane, but somehow there he is in the vice president's motorcade.
benny johnson
Interesting.
Now, why would they be hiding Hunter?
You know, they have been hiding Hunter.
unidentified
You know, Hunter Biden stayed in the White House for two weeks?
benny johnson
Oh, yeah!
That's a bit.
We were out in the field last week filming documentary content.
That story broke.
Hunter Biden lived at the White House for weeks.
Ooh, baby.
And then they found bags of cocaine.
Not one, not two, but three places around the White House.
Joe, blow!
What's in the red backpack, Hunter?
Such a question.
It's interesting.
The policy for the Biden family has always been to lean in to the scandals, right?
Much like the mafia family, right?
You're not allowed to question.
You're not allowed to insult.
You're not allowed to come at certain business.
Made men, right?
Made men in the mafia.
This is what Joe Biden has tried as hard as he can.
With his room temperature IQ to make Hunter Biden.
Joe Biden's often bragged that Hunter Biden went with him on business trips.
Oh, yeah.
This is the PR strategy.
Watch.
jesse watters
And it didn't take long before Hunter ventured off on his own using Air Force Two as a connecting leg to the Philippines.
And once again, his business partner, Vice President Joe Biden, advertised to Asia that Hunter was ready to do business.
joe biden
And as I speak.
My son has just boarded, my grown son has just boarded a plane, an aircraft.
He's heading to the Philippines.
His name is Hunter Biden.
He's chairman of the World Food Program USA.
And he's going there, out in the field, like so many of you did.
jesse watters
The Biden family used the World Food Program as a humanitarian cover story.
After flying all over Asia on our dime, Hunter hopped back on his business partner's jet, Air Force Two, to hit Italy in 2016.
There he is, shaking hands with the Italian Prime Minister.
It's funny, Hunter had just been to Italy on a family vacation with his father.
There they are.
And a year before that, in 2014, Hunter met the owner of Burisma in Italy.
benny johnson
The Italian job is what they would say here.
So interesting.
This is what a regime looks like in panic.
They have too many fires.
They can't control.
They can't capture and kill these fires.
They can't control now what is happening with Tucker Carlson, the debates, the Trump interview.
They're losing control.
And that is something you must have inside of an oligarchy or a tyrannical fascistic state, which is what they wish to bring to America.
But we are going to break them of that.
Joining us in just a moment is going to be Chadwick Moore, the official Tucker Carlson biographer.
And he's going to preview what we're going to get tonight with Tucker and Trump.
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Ladies and gentlemen, somebody who's been doing an incredible job fighting commies, somebody who was one of my favorite guests when Tucker Carlson was still on Fox, and somebody who always brings a little bit of a pep in his step, not the Hunter Biden kind, okay?
Not the Hunter Biden kind.
But just like high on life and a happy warrior is my friend joining the show, Chadwick Moore, the official Tucker biographer.
Chadwick, what's up, man?
How you doing?
unidentified
Hey, Benny, how's it going?
Great to be with you.
benny johnson
Okay, so first off, you are kind of the Chad meme.
You have a beard?
You have a beard?
First name's Chad?
So...
Congratulations.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you.
That's the greatest compliment I could possibly get, I think.
benny johnson
Two, the greatest Chad thing to possibly do would be to be the official Tucker Carlson biographer.
You have a brand new book out.
I think we should just pop it up on screen.
Everyone needs to go get it immediately.
And perhaps, given your incredible access that you've gotten to Tucker, you could preview for us what we're going to see tonight with the Tucker-Trump interview.
What should we expect?
unidentified
Well, you know, it's funny because, you know, Tucker was never like a throne kisser when it came to Trump.
And even some people who are still on Fox very much were that.
You either passionately hated President Trump or you would just do anything to kiss his rump and get on his good side.
Tucker was always someone who very much, I think, was interested in Trumpism and the sort of populist approach and what Trump stood for without necessarily making it all about the man.
So I think that sort of makes him, you know, a good place for this interview tonight.
You know, I think and hope that he'll ask difficult questions as Trump would have gotten in a debate, and maybe we'll get in a debate in the future.
But also, you know, I think Trump probably feels like he's going to get more of a fair shake here than on that other network, where, I mean, it seems pretty clear that had he appeared, it would just be eight, nine other people taking shots at him all night, trying to bring down his popularity and raise their own.
I mean, I can't really imagine what the point otherwise would be to have him in that debate.
benny johnson
Yes.
And many people have been asking this, is it the greatest revenge arc in American history?
Because I have a feeling that Tucker Carlson, who has landed, I mean, Devin Archer, anyone, like, everyone, anyone would have taken that interview.
And that was the most coveted interview, perhaps, in the media landscape for, you know, a matter of weeks this summer.
Tucker Carlson gets it, right?
Heads of state, rappers.
It's almost like Tucker is a hotter commodity after Fox News.
Do you agree?
unidentified
Yeah, it's amazing.
And this really dovetails also with the debate tonight and that Tucker has really become...
Since his show is taken off the air, figurehead for independent media eclipsing mainstream media.
And this is no more clear than it seems that independent media is playing the predominant role already in this election cycle, particularly in the primary.
I mean, Ron DeSantis even announced his candidacy on Twitter.
That really annoyed Fox News.
They wanted that.
Also, Vivek Ramaswamy and RFK Jr. both announced their candidacy on Tucker's show.
Tucker was always, I think, part of his success for the show.
There are many reasons, but one of them was he was this bridge between old media and new media.
He brought the internet to television and television to the internet.
And since they kicked him off, a lot of people who never would have been on cable or cared about cable or who were only there for Tucker have now left.
And we're seeing now that independent media is taking the lead on everything.
Mainstream media is playing catch-up.
And in some cases, and with one network...
They can't even report on what Tucker is doing and the news he's breaking like that Devin Archer interview.
benny johnson
That's fascinating.
What a great point, Chadwick.
Okay, so this is my question to you.
Has Fox News even mentioned that Donald Trump, don't they have an obligation to their audience to note that Donald Trump is speaking with Tucker tonight?
I don't think they've even mentioned that.
unidentified
Well, you would think.
So there is a source inside Fox, and I'm telling you this for the first time, just told me he still works there, that they are totally banned from even all shows are banned from even acknowledging that Trump will appear on this show.
Whatever happens on the show, if Trump breaks news, they can't mention it.
There's been a policy in place since Tucker's taken off the air that you can't say his name on air.
And, you know, he's like Voldemort.
He's like, who shall not be named?
And explicitly, everyone at Fox was told they cannot mention this or what happens on it.
I mean, there are a lot of really good people at Fox.
I used to be on the network a lot.
I'm not talking about the executives, but there's a lot of people there who consider themselves real journalists.
They're very good people.
They take their work seriously.
And this is most frustrating to them.
They can't report on the news, all because of this vendetta that the network has against its former top host.
benny johnson
Could you please peel back the onion layer as to what happened with Trump and Tucker?
There is so much fake news out there, like legitimate fake news.
People essentially manufacturing narratives to help themselves out and using this.
Can you set the record straight, please?
unidentified
Oh, absolutely.
So I was, I think you're probably mostly referring to these text messages, these private text messages that were made public as part of discovery in the Dominion lawsuit in which Tucker was saying things like I hate him passionately and referring to Trump and saying other things, you know, He drives me crazy.
I don't remember what else he was saying.
As it would happen, I was physically with Tucker working on this book when those text messages were made public.
So I was getting like the real time reaction.
You know, his producer saying, hey, look at this, you know, showing him the news story.
And of course, I asked Tucker extensively about his thoughts on Trump, about the text messages.
Basically every word of it into the book because I thought it was so interesting.
I mean, Tucker's just so fascinating anyway.
But my initial...
So that was definitely and still to this day is being used as kind of to drive a wedge between Trump and his supporters.
You know, saying like, look, and also paint Tucker as some sort of fraud and whatever.
Now that I know Tucker so well, you know, over a year and a half, I worked on this book and spent time with him.
You know, he's a very, very impulsive and passionate guy.
And even before I got to talk to him about this stuff, when I was seeing these things, I just thought, well, that's like no different than something I would text a friend of mine when Trump does something that frustrates me, even though I'm, you know, not ashamed to say I very much support the man.
But, you know, I think that was, it was like blowing off steam moment.
I mean, if people publish every text message we sent, you know, what could you get out of that?
So that's not even really trying to diminish it.
I think that's just totally honest, especially when you know the sort of person Tucker is.
And in the book, I got him talking extensively about Trump.
He is not afraid to say where he thinks Trump fails as both a leader and where he failed as president, and also where he shines and what his biggest strengths are and what he likes most about it.
So I think it's good he has a balanced approach to President Trump and doesn't just want to be a sycophant to him.
benny johnson
Yes, and I think that creates a far more interesting interview environment, right?
People are most likely going to...
I cannot imagine somebody who would prefer to watch the GOP debate tonight, a Trump-less GOP debate right now, would prefer to watch that programming over a Tucker-Trump interview.
unidentified
Yeah, and you know, for Trump to further troll Fox News, he's now arranged for his arraignment to be tomorrow in Georgia.
So just when Fox was counting on getting the headlines from the debate, well, all the news is going to be focused on Fulton County and nobody's going to care, especially without Trump there.
I do think that probably the real winners in the debate in this situation, if there are any, are probably all the other candidates except for Chris Christie, who now could actually maybe instead of focus on...
attacking Trump, they can try to deliver their vision for America and sell whatever voters are watching on their story.
They won't be so distracted by Trump in the room.
But I'm not sure if we're going to be seeing many soundbites tomorrow.
I'm not sure.
It'll be interesting, but I'm not sure what's going to happen that's really going to get people entertained and amused and provoke thought and discussion.
benny johnson
So there's one soundbite that we play on the show often, which is Tucker Carlson elucidating out of Mike Pence this commentary that...
He doesn't care about what's happening in America.
It's not my concern, right?
It has become almost a bumper sticker slogan and has effectively ended Mike Pence's career, right?
He can't get over 2% in the polls now.
And many people, for many people, this crystallized what they already thought of Mike Pence.
But I suppose you would have an interesting perspective on this.
Tucker Carlson would never have been able to have that moment were he still with Fox.
I guess undergirding this idea that he's...
More powerful now.
And more relevant now.
Would you agree?
unidentified
It certainly seems that way.
I mean, he completely destroyed Mike Pence's political career.
And thank goodness we all got to see that.
I mean, the man said he doesn't care about American suffering.
benny johnson
Twice.
unidentified
Twice he said it.
Yes.
I don't, not my concern.
Not my concern.
He reiterated it.
My jaw was on the floor when I saw that, but way to get a politician off their toes and I think be honest about who they really are.
But I mean, funny enough, I, I, I asked Tucker about Mike Pence when we were writing the book.
Tucker's known Pence for many years.
He was a regular on Crossfire back in Tucker's CNN days.
And Tucker's response that we put in the book was something like, he's the creepiest person I've ever met.
And then he goes into how there's just absolutely nothing sincere about this man.
Maybe that was his sincere moment.
But we would never have known that.
And not even just to bully Mike Pence, but the fact that that's probably exactly how so many people in our...
Leading our leadership class, both in media and in Washington, feel completely.
Of course, that's how they feel, including the president himself.
And now we have one of them, who's very prominent, just outright telling us.
benny johnson
I mean, I suppose there is so much value in seeing who people truly are.
When someone tells you who they are, believe them, right, as the old adage goes.
Chadwick, final question for you.
What does this moment mean?
You've taken the time, and as you said, put in two years of work on this particular moment.
You happen to be one of those people who are just really in the right spot at the right time.
And I don't think you were expecting Tucker Carlson to part ways with Fox News in the midst of you previewing your book here.
Two-part question.
Why did that happen?
And then two, what is the media ecosystem going to look like going forward with what Tucker is about to build?
unidentified
So, yeah, I mean, weirdly, I was a guest on his final episode on April 21st, which, of course, we didn't know was going to be the final episode of the show.
And I think that it's, you know, specifically going forward, Tucker is, you know, they're raising money to start their own media company, probably a subscriber-based service.
Justin Wells, his executive producer, says that people can count on seeing a lot more Tucker than they ever saw on Fox News when that's finally allowed to happen.
But of course, Tucker's still an employee of Fox News.
He's still getting a paycheck every week.
He's still under contract.
That expires December 2024, conveniently, right after the next presidential election.
Which brings me to your other question.
Why was he taken out there and what happened?
I mean, it's inarguable, in my opinion, at this point, that it was ideological.
And of course it happened six days after the Dominion suit.
Tucker was, of course, not pushing those theories.
In fact, the only reason why Tucker's...
Private messages were subpoenas because Dominion wanted to argue that reasonable people, like Tucker Carlson, knew that the claims that the voting machines are rigged were BS.
So, I mean, that's, you know, he wasn't one of these people pushing it.
Other people at Fox were, they still have jobs.
It was purely ideological, 100%.
Fox brass does not like Donald Trump.
Tucker Carlson is, as one liberal called him, that I quote my book, the high priest of Trumpism, which I think they meant as an insult, but I don't think that's an insult.
But he was that voice.
He was that perspective in mainstream media, that counter-narrative populist perspective in mainstream media, which was to say its place in the official approved national discourse.
So now that he's on off of that and is never going back to mainstream media, you know, I think that's why his removal from Fox felt like a death for so many people, because that perspective is no longer in a place that our leaders are paying attention to.
So what does it look like going forward?
We're seeing this, as I mentioned, mainstream media becoming subservient to independent media.
But, you know, Fox is obviously not going to go lightly.
Any mainstream media wouldn't.
And our leaders are still in this place where they truly care what mainstream media and the corporations think.
Now someone like Tucker can be more easily ignored by the leadership class, even though that's where the people are tuning in.
They're tuning into shows like yours.
They're not tuning into CNN and other places.
So it's going to take a massive cultural shift, but it truly feels like we're on the cusp of something really big right now in this country.
And the headlines of the last few months, there's some sort of big sea change happening that I don't know the exact outlines of, but I think a lot of people feel it.
benny johnson
That sounds like your next book.
unidentified
Yeah, perhaps, yeah.
Thanks for the idea.
I've been trying to think what I might do.
benny johnson
I mean, I will say this, not to filibuster here, but you just brought up such a fascinating point.
Republican senators still crawl all over themselves and debase themselves to go and meet the press.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
benny johnson
They just...
They denigrate and humiliate themselves.
Ball gag, in mouth, gimp suit on, crawling on all fours, walking to Ginger Chuck Todd to stroke his goatee.
Am I wrong?
unidentified
It's so true.
Well, it's the prestige economy.
That's all it is.
It's the prestige.
And this is why half these people get into politics, you know?
They're extremely...
Callow people with very low self-esteem who need to be fed attention all the time.
And so, of course, they want to be on Meet the Press, even if five people watch, rather than going on some Twitter show as 200 million people watching, because it's prestige.
It's validation from this corporate entity that you're worthy to be on here.
And you've got the makeup girl, and you've got the cameras, and you're treated like a princess, and maybe you get to eat snacks in the green room.
So that's what it is.
I mean, it's personality.
Dependent on these people.
It has nothing to do with actually caring, you know, about the voters or what real Americans think.
It's completely ego-driven.
benny johnson
Yeah.
Yeah, it is wild.
You and I should talk offline.
I got some interesting stories about Republican senators and, like, it is wild to see the way that they treat, like, shows like ours and audiences like ours that are real and, like...
I think it'll take a generational shift, quite frankly, and we all see what's happening with the age of members of Congress.
It's never been older, and I think that's the problem.
The age makes it lag, and so the younger members of Congress, they totally get it, right?
And they're never invited on Meet the Press anyway.
They get it.
But it's this class that is sticking around, that's keeping...
They keep the system alive.
That's what I can't figure out.
They keep the system alive by feeding it, right?
And they would be wise to...
Let you write a book on them.
Come on our show.
Go on a Twitter show, as you say, where the people actually are.
Chadwick Moore, where can people find your book?
Everywhere, I assume.
unidentified
Yeah, you can buy it anywhere you get your books.
You can go to tuckerthebook.com if you want links to all those retailers.
You can also order direct from the publisher there if you want.
So tuckerthebook.com, Barnes& Noble, Books A Million, Walmart, Amazon, Sam's Club, anywhere you get your books.
benny johnson
And speaking of Twitter, sorry, not to deadname Twitter X. Follow Chadwick!
Here's his profile.
There's his 113,000 people.
Can't be wrong, ladies and gentlemen.
You've got to follow Chadwick.
He produces some straight fire also on his X account, Twitter account.
So thank you, Chadwick, so much.
Godspeed.
unidentified
Oh, cool.
Thanks, man.
Great to be with you.
Thank you.
you you you All right, baby.
benny johnson
We're out here.
We're going to be here tonight.
We're going to be bringing you the flames tonight.
We are doing it.
And then tomorrow, tomorrow, the Fulton County Jail.
Donald Trump has confirmed that tomorrow is the day.
Earlier in the week, we were like, whoa, it's going to be Friday.
It's going to be maybe Saturday.
Who knows?
You know, Donald Trump.
Kudos.
Donald Trump has confirmed Thursday is the day that he will be going in.
Expect us to have a t-shirt up with Donald Trump's mugshot on it.
Not guilty.
Y 'all got to feel me.
You're going to turn this man into Tupac, as Chris Rock famously said.
You're going to arrest Trump?
He's going to sell more records.
You ready for that?
Donald Trump saying as much yesterday.
He will be turning himself in.
What are you going to do?
Are you going to raise his poll numbers?
Donald Trump also showing you exactly how he how he's managing all this, had a hysterical truth social post yesterday.
The failed district attorney of Fulton County insisted on a two hundred thousand dollar bond for me.
I assume, therefore, that she thought I was a flight risk.
I'm going to read this in Donald Trump voice, okay?
Hold on.
unidentified
Fly far, far away.
benny johnson
This is the second truth right there.
unidentified
Fly far, far away.
Maybe Russia.
Russia, Russia.
Share a gold-dummed suite with Vladimir.
Never to be seen or heard from again.
Would I be able to take my very understated airplane with golden Trump affixed to it for all to see?
benny johnson
Probably not.
unidentified
I'd be much better off flying commercial.
I'm sure nobody would recognize me.
benny johnson
This is Donald Trump's post on Truth Social.
Donald Trump taking it in stride.
In stride, ladies and gentlemen.
There we go.
There it is.
unidentified
Thank you.
benny johnson
So we're going to as well.
As Rush Limbaugh used to always say, now's not the time to panic.
I'll tell you when to panic.
Now's not the time to panic.
Who are the ones who knock?
We are the ones who knock.
As Chadwick just said, and what a compliment to all of us.
As Chadwick just said, it's audiences like ours where the power actually is.
It's the brigaders.
We're the ones.
It's the salty army.
We're the ones.
Where the power actually resides in, because we are real.
We are growing at a shocking pace, actually.
It's amazing.
You are part of the fastest-growing independent media audience streaming on the internet.
And I have to say streaming, because Tucker Carlson is now the official most-followed independent voice on the internet.
And I don't think we'll ever catch Tucker.
I'm not sure I ever want to.
But we're going to do something.
You know, he's 20 years older than me.
So we're going to build something a little different.
We're going to build something for you.
And here's Chadwick Moore on our show being like, this is the future.
You're part of the future.
You're just here early.
It's going to be amazing.
It's going to be biblical.
And because it's biblical, we're going to read our verse of the day.
Matthew 7, 7. Okay?
Verse of the day.
Ask, and it will be given unto you.
Seek, and you shall find.
Knock, and the door will be opened unto you.
Oh, this is from yesterday.
Am I reading the wrong verse of the day?
Oh, I did a different verse of the day, ladies and gentlemen.
Here we go.
From John 14, 6. I had scrolled too far down in our script, but hey, that's a good verse as well.
From John 14, 6. Jesus answered, I am the way, the truth, and the life.
Nobody comes to the Father except through me.
It's worth stating, and you should say it every morning in the mirror, that God is real and that Christ is King.
Amen.
That's it.
That's all you need.
Remember, Christ's prayer.
The Lord's prayer.
It's like short.
It's like 20 words long.
It's a short prayer.
You just need simple truth.
God's got you.
God's got you.
The sparrow falls from the sky.
The flowers on the ground, not Solomon in all of his splendor, were robed like these flowers that you crush under your feet.
A sparrow cannot fall from the sky without God's notice.
Come on.
Man, God cares about you.
And he cares about this nation.
And if he didn't care about this nation, oh baby, you'd know it.
We'd be done.
We're not done.
God's not done with us yet.
So remember that.
Remember your Savior.
Remember Christ.
Have that confidence.
Stand upright.
Stand upright and march forward, Christian soldier.
Be upstanding.
Salt and light, baby.
We'll see you here later today.
It's your boy, Benny.
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