DEBATE - Who Were The Nephilim & Men of Renown? - Spiritual Warfare Friday
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I'm host Dan Badandi and Trey Harris won't be able to join us tonight.
He's got some issues going on down in North Carolina or whatever.
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Welcome to Spiritual Warfare Friday.
And before we get to our guest, Jim Morgante, he's going to be joining us.
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You're a musician and just a researcher?
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And thank you, Brian over at Visual Disturbance and John Pounders over at Night UCTV. And before we get going, I just want to address some things.
I've got to be real quick about this.
I'm not going to trash people or nothing like that.
I'm not like that.
So I'm going to just kind of mirror what David Carrico said on the show earlier.
So there's been, you know, this woman puts out this video trying to say that FOJC Radio, Night UCTV, the...
Are there non-profit corporations and 501c3?
No, that's not how it works.
Just because somebody's a non-profit, I used to have a non-profit.
A non-profit's a state entity.
So when you become a non-profit, you are not automatically 501c3.
You have to file with the IRS. It's a government issue.
You know, you file a non-profit with the state.
And to become a 501c3, you're going to file with the IRS, which is a government thing.
Two different things.
And again, just because somebody's a non-profit, that doesn't mean they're 501c3.
So no, NYC TV and FOJC are not, I repeat, not 501c3.
Neither am I. I just want to get that stuff out there because there's a lot of stuff going on, a lot of division and all that stuff.
So guys, if you listen to this show, Tracy's show, FOGC, I'm not trying to make you guys choose whatever the case.
You watch what you want.
God bless you.
I'm not going to get into little semantics like that.
I'm just going to bring it up one more time and that's it.
And we're done with that stuff.
Because we've got other stuff to talk about.
We can't focus on these distractions because we've got this ministry to run and all this other stuff.
Anyway, guys, welcome to the broadcast.
And before we get going, a quick prayer before we do this, because spiritual warfare, guys, and we always got to engage with spiritual warfare.
So, Jesus, Yeshua Messiah, we come before you, and thank you so much for everything.
And please forgive us all individually for the sins and trespasses we may have committed today.
Heavenly Father, we pray for a great broadcast tonight and pray that the truth could disseminate to me and also to Jim here and with the Holy Spirit to show us both the truth and to have this great discussion tonight and to jump into your word in Genesis 6 and so on and just discover the mysteries of your gospel.
In your mighty name, we also pray for protection against any and all evil forces.
And we love you so much.
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So, welcome to the broadcast, Jim.
How are you doing, brother?
I mean, I feel great.
I got a good workout in.
What's that?
Oh, go ahead.
Oh, so I thought you said something.
No, I feel great.
I got a workout in.
I was on the road for a bit today.
But I'm looking forward to this.
I just want to say, first and foremost, thank you for letting me on here.
There is, I'd say, less than 3% of Christian or Catholic, whatever you want to call a religious person, there's, I'd say, like, Less than 3% that would have this debate because I'm always like, you're stupid!
Oh, you obviously...
Oh, you don't know how to read.
Do you know what reading comprehension is?
Yeah, so my daughter had that when she was in second grade last year.
And there's, like...
You know what I mean?
Like, I just want to thank you.
We're both...
We both know how to read.
We both are smart.
And in our own way...
You know, everyone...
Understands what they understand.
So I just want to reach out.
A huge thank you for doing this, for letting me in.
That's a huge thing.
No one else does this.
Absolutely, and I like to hear opposing views too, because here's the thing too, and I know a lot of people in the ministry will be like, oh, you shouldn't debate people and all that stuff.
There's nothing wrong with that, because it keeps you sharp, it keeps your wits up, and it keeps your iron sharp.
You know what I mean?
How do you sharp in iron, with iron?
You know what I mean?
So, you need to do that.
Of course, debates like when I know a person is just going to be stupid, and I'm sure you run into this problem too, when somebody wants to debate you, now when you put them on the carpet, so to speak, or whatever the case, you bring up valid points, they start attacking you personally, swearing at you, making fun of you, to try to derail the subject, to try to get you off the subject, and the whole debate's over at that point.
That person's completely lost, you know what I mean?
So, yeah, Jim, very respectful man, and, you know what I mean, I'm going to be respectful too, and it's a nice discussion here.
I don't really like to call it a debate, but a discussion, you know what I mean?
And he's got a view on Genesis 6, and, well, actually, let's just read that for us before we get going.
So, Genesis chapter 6, and if you listen to Shake Your Wake, please open your Bible.
What's up?
Okay, so, I guess I'll just start off here.
Okay.
Do you want me to read it?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I'm just giving a preface to it about the entire Netflix.
I'm going to keep this totally based on as much as I can, because I know you and I are going to go...
We can both go off for infinitely onto everything else.
So I'm going to...
I'm going to do my best to stay just on the Nephilim in the Bible, in the canon.
And remember, canon is a synonym for algorithm.
So the reason they call it the Bible Code is also a synonym for algorithm.
So it's a system that performs a function.
So what I'm going to do is...
You can pick whatever translation you want, but I'm going to read the original Hebrew definition of every word, along with, obviously, the other words.
And I just want to...
This came to me personally, and I was like...
That's when this whole, they thought they had me, but I'm on to them, came about.
So I guess I'll start at...
On this one thing here.
And I'm going to jump back and forth to the Garden of Eden and here.
And then to maybe in Numbers for Anak and then Joshua.
But it's all based on Nephilim.
Everything I'm doing is pure based on this story.
Okay, so let's do...
Let's first do Genesis 6-3.
Well, no.
I guess we'll have to do Genesis 6-1.
Yeah, let me...
Let me read that, then we can get right to the nitty gritty here.
So I just want to make sure everybody is here.
Alright.
Yeah, sorry guys, he might be a little choppy, because there's a lot of storms going on everywhere, so just try to have patience.
He might be a little choppy on his end there.
So, internet issues, yeah.
It's definitely internet issues.
So, alright, so I'm going to read Genesis 6, just the context of the Nephilim.
So, Genesis 6, it says, And it came to pass when men began to multiply in the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them.
Now, the thing is, guys, when I do the scriptures, guys, I don't like to read through it.
The Bible is very specific.
You need to understand key words, and you really need to look at them and pay attention, not speed read through it.
You need to actually read it and understand what each and every single word means.
Because if you don't know what one single word means, it'll throw off the entire context.
So when we do our Bible studies for this book, it says, And it came to pass when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them.
That the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were fair.
And they took them as wives, which they chose.
Now understand this, right?
A lot of people debate who the sons of God were.
You know what I mean?
And I don't know if this is going to be part of the debate or not, but the sons of God and all that.
Yeah.
Oh, for sure.
All right.
And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he is also flesh, and yet his days shall be 120 years.
And there were giants in the earth in those days, and also after that.
When the sons of God, and this is literally, came, you know, having sex with the daughter's man, the sons of God came into the daughter's man, and they bare children to them.
The same became mighty men of, which were old, and men of renown.
Now, this is the issue too.
So, Mr. Bogante, he's got a different approach than what we do on the show here, of who the men of renown were.
So when I first seen his stuff on, I think it was Instagram, whatever, and we had a little discussion on Instagram and all that, and so he's got a different view, a point of view of who the men of renown were.
Now we understand, men of renown generally, it's who are men of renown?
It's a famous person, like the president, you know, whatever the case, or Michael Jordan, or whatever, they're famous people, you know what I mean, in general.
But in this context, this is where the debate about who the men of renown in this context were speaking of.
You know what I mean?
So...
And one last part of the verse, verse 5. And God saw that the weakness of man was great in the earth, and not every imagination of his thoughts were, in his heart, were evil continually.
So, now it's a point of who the men are now.
And who are the Nephilim?
Who are these men of old and the mighty men and all that stuff?
So that's what we're going to get to the discussion today.
So you guys all, I mean, we did, me, Brian, and Trey, and whoever else we had on the show, we've done dozens and countless shows about Nephilim.
You all, you know, if you, you know, mostly people watching now, you watch this for a while, so...
You all know my view, the biblical view, and everything else.
So, you know, we got Mr. Morganti on.
Morganti, I'm sorry.
We got him on here, so we want to hear his point of view.
And so, yeah, you got the floor, brother.
Go ahead.
All right, thanks.
Yeah, so, okay, I'm not...
I don't want to...
I'm not here to be the guy that's like, oh, I'm going to pull the rug out from believers in God.
I believe in God.
I believe in a creator.
I'm not a religious man.
I believe in...
I actually believe the words of the Bible and the text and the original text and what the original words actually said.
And what I'm going to do, I'm just going to read...
I'm not reading a translation.
I'm reading the definition.
A translation is a synonym of a definition in a language that's your own.
If there's a word for power, how would you define power?
You'd probably say strong, mighty, able to control things.
You wouldn't say lizard, reptile.
Like a creeping thing on the ground.
That would be a wrong definition.
Or a wrong synonym.
I'm using that example for a reason later.
The sons of...
In Genesis, in the sons of God, the reason that these people were actually, in my opinion, they're stronger than us, and they built whatever we're in right now, this place, this realm, if there's flat earthers out there, whatever, I love everyone, I don't hate anything or anybody.
I'm all about everything.
So the word for sons is bene, and it literally means a male son born from a female woman.
Sons of the Elohim, which we all know, I'm sure everyone on here that does this, Elohim means gods, goddesses, mighty judges, rulers, divine beings.
That's the word that Genesis 1 uses in the creation of the world, which Genesis 1, in my opinion, is the greatest, or Genesis 1, the first chapter, is all great.
We should all be that.
And remember, they said have dominion.
And Genesis 1 told man to eat all the trees.
They never said, don't eat the tree of knowledge.
They said eat all of them, including the Tree of Life, which I'll get to in a second.
So, and again, these in my, from what it says here, is saying male children born of women, only humans can have children.
I mean, yes, maybe there's a different race that we would have, like, weird things that can't have kids, but the Nephilim have lineages.
So they definitely are able to have kids, and those kids can procreate.
Not like a mule, where, what, a donkey and a...
Wait, what makes a mule?
I'm getting a brain fart.
But you know how, like, certain animals can...
Like a liger, it can't procreate.
Like, they can have one baby, but those babies can't have babies.
The Nephilim can have babies.
So, they're obviously able to come in to have sex and get married to people, and there's a marriage ceremony.
So, I know everyone might be disagreeing, but I'll just finish this really quick.
You should be able to share your screen, too.
You asked me about it earlier.
Oh, I'm using, like, tabs on my phone because my computer's going...
Yeah, it's just going so slow.
If you need me to pull up anything, like my end, I can pull it up on the internet for you.
Just pull up the Genesis 6 again, and I'm on...
I'm on three, and you know what?
Just stay there, and I'll show you.
Quickly, everyone says that, oh, it wasn't humans, it was fallen angels.
Again, angels are messengers, but Jesus said, in the days of Noah, what did he say?
Did he say fallen angels were eating and drinking and marrying and giving into marriage?
There's no marriage ceremony for fallen angels.
There's only a marriage ceremony for a man and a woman here.
And back then, that's where it came from.
That ceremony was for people.
The sons of God married.
They took wives of these women.
So they married them, which is a human trait.
And I think, yeah, maybe they were super powerful.
I'm all about that.
But Jesus said it was people that were eating and drinking and giving into marriage.
People.
People.
He didn't say it was fallen angels and giving into marriage.
So now, those sons of God, which, this is going to take a long time, but I think we have time, are Shem, and I'm going to show it to you, and it was Noah and the people that followed the Lord God.
The Lord God is different than the Elohim because Genesis 1 said that men and women, when the Elohim created men and women, they said, eat all of the trees.
The Lord God in Genesis 2 said, don't eat this one tree.
The men and women that were allowed to eat all the trees, those were the people that were worshiping the Elohim.
When the Lord God came in, in Genesis 2, and created the garden first, he said that he needed a slave for the garden.
That's the word for abad, is a slave.
Genesis 1 says, Genesis 128, you have domin- I think it's 128. I mean, everyone knows these passages.
You have dominion over the entire earth.
No one's- like the ground and the sky.
No one is above A person with dominion.
I'm not saying we're above God, but what the Elohim told men and women was, you have dominion.
Whatever we're in right now, a globe, a flatter, whatever you want to call it, a realm, we have dominion of.
That's what Genesis 1 says.
That was even before Adam bit the, all that stuff.
But that was before the Lord God made Adam, because he needed a slave.
Now, that's what it says.
Abad, the word for till and cultivate the ground is slave.
That he needed a man for that.
So when he...
I'm not going to cut you off.
I just want to question, like, are you looking up the biblical...
Because the thing is, when I do the Bible studies, you need to look up the biblical meaning of the word, not the modern day.
Obviously, I mean, you know that already.
Yes, no, that's what I did.
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Abad means slave underfoot.
That's what it means.
We're not supposed to work for anybody.
We're supposed to have dominion over everything.
Why would the Lord God first say, don't eat that tree when the Elohim just said, eat all the trees?
Then why would he say, oh, and I need you to work for me when we have dominion in Genesis 1?
Those are the two things that made me realize what's going on here.
That's why, and there's two Adams.
I know I'm taking forever on this one section here.
But if you look up all through Genesis 1 and 2, it's Adam means mankind.
Until Genesis, after he bites the apple, Genesis 3, I'm going to say 17. There's two words for Adam.
One word has a number above it.
You can go to any lexicon.
It says 120 and it means mankind.
There's another Adam that is spelled the same, but it's 121 and it means the first man.
Adam, 121, the first man, bit the apple.
And he was called that 121 number after he bit the apple.
And the Lord God said, he has become like one of us.
The Lord God was an Elohim.
And I'm getting here right now to the text.
In Genesis 3, he has become like one of us.
Again, stating multiple.
That's after he bit the apple.
Now, he was allowed to eat from the tree of life.
Remember, the Lord God said, only don't eat from the tree of knowledge.
Adam and Eve were eating the tree of life.
When he bit the tree of knowledge, he became like us, the Lord God said.
So not only was he living a very, very, very long life, which he obviously did, he became like And the Yahweh Elohim.
One of the Elohim.
One of them.
So, now, the word for...
We have to kick him out, and whoever doesn't follow him...
No, I'm sorry.
That the Lord God in Genesis 3 needed to kick Adam and Eve out.
And he said, if we don't...
The word less means, oh, people are going to find out if this happens.
That's what less means.
He didn't want, the Lord God didn't want mankind to eat from the tree of life or what would happen?
They would live forever.
Now, so what he's doing is he knows Adam is that can live forever because he ate from the tree of life already and he ate from the knowledge which he didn't want him to.
Who doesn't want you to know knowledge?
Adam did that.
He was, you know, kicked out.
Well, no, he was banished because the Lord said, I don't want mankind eating the tree of life so they live forever.
He didn't say Adam.
He said mankind.
When he kicked them out, mankind is in the darkness.
They're like, oh, yeah, whatever.
That guy's bad, I guess.
The word for forever in the text is olam.
It means I'm going to pull it up right now.
It means...
I'm going to...
This is going to blow everyone's mind.
I don't think anyone has...
I've never heard this online.
It's taking me forever.
Okay.
So, the Tree of Life...
It said...
The Lord said, I don't want mankind to live a long duration...
Antiquity, futurity, successive, always, ancient times, ancient, eternal, everlasting, very long, forever, perpetually, divine existence, ancient men.
That's what the tree of life that the Lord didn't want men to eat from.
The only...
Adam was allowed to do that, but after this, he didn't want them to anymore.
He made a second tree, not because he said, I don't want mankind to eat from this anymore.
He originally allowed it, and then he stopped it.
So, the Nephilim were on the earth in those days and after.
When the daughters of men, they were called the heroes of old.
That word, heroes of old, The word for old is the same word as Olan.
Adam ate that tree of the tree of life.
He was...
Adam lived 900...
What?
Was it 950 years, I think?
Whatever.
All those guys lived such long lives.
And the word of the Nephilim are the long-living people.
And after Adam did that, what did he do?
He started, he had the kids, Cain and Abel and all that.
Then he had Seth.
Now when Seth was born, remember, he ate from the tree of life.
Right after Seth was born in Genesis 4, the last verse, Seth was born, or Seth's son, Enoch, at that time, men began to call upon the name of the Lord.
Adam was kicked out of the Lord's garden.
But then, men started calling upon the name of the Lord.
The word for the Lord, the name of the Lord here is Shem.
Now, I know everyone's going to say, oh, that's the title.
Well, how many Christ is the title, too?
And how many Christs are there?
Shem was the name of the Lord.
The word for Shem in Genesis 6 of renown is Shem.
The Nephilim, by definition, are literally called the men that live very long lives and the men of Shem.
I know I talked for a while.
No, sorry.
Where's the definition of the Nephilim?
Wait, which one?
The men of renown or the men of old?
Nephilim.
You said they were what you just said last time.
The men of renown.
Okay, so well, there's two things.
Noah, Shem, Abraham.
They all lived very, very long lives.
Yeah, hundreds of years.
All of them.
The Nephilim were called the mighty men of old.
The word for men of old, men is, you know, men.
Old is olam.
That's the same word of the tree of life that Adam ate that would make you live forever.
It's not old men.
It is ancient men, but the word for old means extended lifespan.
It doesn't mean It doesn't mean he was old in his age.
Because there's a word for old in his age.
I forget what it is now, but when Abraham was old, it said he was just up in his age, was aged or something.
This word is not old.
It's the men that live forever.
Or for, well, a thousand, 900 years, you know.
It's pretty cool.
But...
That's number one.
Noah and all those guys lived hundreds of years.
The Lord God just said in Genesis 2, My spirit...
Oh, I totally forgot this.
Genesis 6-3, My spirit will not contend with man, for his days are only 120 years.
Okay, I'm sorry.
My spirit will not contend with men forever.
The word for forever is Ola.
It's the same word as the men of old and the tree of life that the Lord didn't want men eating so they wouldn't live forever.
The Lord literally says here, I don't want men because they only live for 120 years.
He doesn't let them.
He regrets making people For whatever, probably because they're kind of like, they're just like blindly following.
Then he says, that literally, it goes right into it.
Because first, the Lord's like, they only live 120 years.
They aren't forever.
And the word for forever is Olam.
The Lord needed an Olam to continue after the flood.
A man of long life.
That's why Noah lived 900 years.
That's why Noah's son was called Shem.
Because they were the men of...
Shem is the word for renown.
I was just talking...
I forget who I was talking to.
Some guy on...
I think it was a link on here.
And he goes, no, the word for renown...
Here's Atlanta.
Wow, you must have really had reading comprehension problems.
Because the word for renown is gibbor and gibborim.
Anyone can pull this up.
Gibborim is the word for mighty.
It's actually the word for the Lord God when he's called mighty multiple times in Psalms.
He's called the mighty gibbor.
He's called gibbor.
The Lord is gibbor or whatever.
Yes, that means mighty.
But the men of renown is Shem.
Shem means the name.
Genesis 3 says that the men started following the Lord after Seth.
And the name of the Lord.
It actually says they call upon the name of the Lord.
Shem is the lineage.
Noah and Shem are the lineage of the Nephilim.
And I'm going to...
Now that I kind of...
There's a lot more that obviously I couldn't get to.
I started on the past.
Now, if you want to work in the middle of the Bible backwards, enact the Nephilim in Numbers 13.33.
When it says that Anak is the Nephilim, and then it says, we were like grasshoppers, you really need to read this slower.
And I mean, people might say, oh, it's not the right, whatever.
When you read the original text, first of all, the word grasshopper is locust.
It's not grasshopper.
What do locusts do to lands?
They eat everything.
They devour everything, right?
Dan, so I know you read Book of Enoch, and I've done one, two, and three.
I don't use it a lot because it doesn't fit the algorithm or canon, as they say.
Because if you add more to an algorithm, it falls apart.
But...
Dan, if you remember, what did the Nephilim do in the Book of Enoch?
They devour everything, right?
Devour each other, everyone, and yeah, they were just nasty things.
Okay.
So, when you go to Numbers...
If you have the Bible app open...
Sure.
I'm watching YouTube, which I don't know why, because it's delayed, but...
I have it off my memory because I've been obsessed with this for so many years.
And I actually probably read the text more than anybody else does.
Before you go to numbers and all that, I want to clarify.
Genesis?
This way we could, you know, go along.
I could do a rebutal.
Then you could do your next one.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, yeah, yeah, okay.
All right, so first of all, Genesis, you've got to understand how Genesis works.
First of all, Genesis 1, it gives you bullet points.
So when you get to Genesis 2, it starts filling the gaps and everything else.
So when God, at this point, let me get to, actually, hang on a second.
When the Lord, at this point, He created everything at the time, right?
There was no God in that point.
So when he said every tree, the seeds and everything else, right?
For man and all that.
Now there was no man on earth yet.
Until obviously, you know, we get to Genesis 2 when it talks about Adam.
Now there weren't men in the garden.
There was only Adam.
Oh no, that was Genesis 128 I was reading.
After the trees.
When man was there.
When the first creation of man.
Oh no, yeah, what you're confusing is, Genesis 1 lays all the bullet points down, then Genesis 2 starts getting into different aspects of those things, like Revelation, right?
Same thing, Revelation, the first half of Revelation gives the bullet points, second half goes back to those points and gives more information to fill in the gaps, same thing here in Revelation.
Genesis.
So Genesis 1 just paints out how everything was created.
Genesis 2 goes back a little bit and talks about what man, like Adam, the first man, there went man, then Adam.
You know what I mean?
So a lot of people get that confused because Genesis 1 is just giving the bullet points out.
It's not saying there was man on the earth yet.
It's just giving the bullet points.
Now, at this point, when he created the trees and everything else, what did you say, 128?
God blessed them and God said unto them, Be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth.
And so do it.
And have demean over the fish and the sea and the fowl of the year and everything, living thing that moves upon the earth.
129. Oh, 129. Okay.
And God said, behold.
He said, behold, I've given man every single tree whose fruit contains seed.
Every tree.
The word for every means the whole and all on the entire planet.
But it doesn't say tree.
It says, I have given you every herb bearing seed which is upon the face of the earth and every tree which is the fruit of this tree yields seed and you shall eat whatever to eat, right?
No, look, wait, which version are you reading?
King James.
Okay, go to the next sentence.
Which is upon the face of the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of the tree yielding seed.
Every tree.
So the word for tree...
Here, hang on.
Well, um...
Okay, tree is tree.
Well, I mean, you're missing the point, yeah.
And then every is the whole.
That's the part I was reading.
Hold on, he's not talking about the trees in the earth.
This is talking about the trees all over the earth, right?
It says every tree on earth.
Every tree, right?
But, later on, because at this point there's no God in Eden right now.
So, if you go to Genesis 2, it talks about he planted a garden.
This is afterwards.
Afterwards, he planted this garden, and he laid the trees.
He made two trees after this place, because at Genesis 1, the creation is done, right?
So, every tree and all that, there's no garden eating yet.
Genesis 2 talks about he planted a garden, this is afterwards, planted a garden, and he made two trees in the midst of the garden, the tree of life and the tree of knowledge.
So at this point, when he said every tree, he was talking about every tree on the earth.
So in the gardens particularly, he's saying there's two trees in there, a tree of life and a tree of knowledge, right?
He told Adam, and it wasn't man, it was Adam, it was just one person in that garden.
So he told him, don't touch that tree.
Plain and simple.
And later on when Eve came, same thing, don't touch the tree.
So this is afterwards.
So every tree at that point, when he said every tree, there was no garden eating yet.
So it goes, the Bible is very detailed.
It's very specific and gives details.
So later on, after this little creation comes, then comes the garden eating.
So this is afterwards.
Then he says, I planted the garden, right?
The garden Eden.
And in the midst of the garden, he created the tree of life and the tree of knowledge.
And he warned Adam, don't touch that tree.
So, because I know, because I understand where you're coming from, because I'm not saying you're saying this, but there's a lot of people out there who try to use this as a Bible contradiction when it's not, because they don't understand this is two different events.
You know what I mean?
The creation first, then God and come later.
And then God later planted those trees and these trees for a reason.
You know what I mean?
And so, that's the explanation with that.
And what was the other thing?
Okay.
Oh, go ahead.
Yeah, so, then the Garden of Eden...
So, are you one of the people that believe the Garden of Eden isn't on Earth?
No, it's here on Earth, yeah.
So, if...
Well, that's what I was...
If we're given every tree on Earth, I... Yes, it is separate from the Garden of Eden, but didn't the Lord say that he...
All the...
Wait, I forget where it's at.
All the trees...
Yeah, at that point.
He gave growth to every tree.
So are you saying he made different trees just for his specific garden?
Yeah, the garden is separate.
It's like the garden came later, then he put the two trees in afterwards.
After he'd done all that and said, all these trees here on the earth, they're for fruit and everything else, right?
Then, later after all this is done, he created the garden.
Then, after he created the garden, then he planted two trees.
These two trees came later.
Okay, then what's...
Okay, you know, that's a better rebuttal than I've heard from other people, because they said that they didn't go back into that.
But my question would be that, why would he, when the Elohim just said before that, that we have dominion over everything, which when you look up the word dominion, you are the dominator of everything.
There's no one above dominion.
The person with dominion.
They're the highest.
That's what it said.
He blessed them.
Have dominion over the entire earth.
Or rule over it.
There's a bunch of different words for it.
Why then would the Lord God need what is defined as...
I'll pull up the...
Why would he need the slave then?
Let me find the...
He did not have a man.
I can read it for you here.
So...
Yeah.
Let's just read chapter 2 here.
So thus, the heavens and earth were finished.
Now, we'll point this out, right?
Remember I said Genesis 1, all that stuff was done, right?
Yeah, 2-7.
Oh, wait, no, I'm sorry.
Yeah.
So now, Genesis 2, it says, thus, remember, the Bible is very specific.
The heavens and earth were finished, and all the host of them.
So all the creation is done now.
So now, on the seventh day, God ended his work.
This is where the Sabbath is and all that.
So we'll skip ahead to...
Alright, right here.
Every plant in this field before it was on the earth.
And every herb in the field before it grew, the Lord God had not caused it to rain...
I'm sorry, yeah.
Not caused it to rain upon the earth and there was not a man to till the ground.
There was nobody there to till the ground.
What's the word for till?
To work the ground.
Like, what we do with our houses.
What verse is that?
2-5.
2-5.
So, work the ground.
Like, we do at houses.
I mean, like, all of us...
I mean, if you have a yard and stuff, you can kill the ground.
Okay, so, we were just told that man has dominion over the entire...
over everything.
Yeah.
In this realm.
It says the sky and all ground.
Everything.
The garden...
Is on earth, which you just said.
Yeah.
He needed...
This is what the word for cultivate and till means.
He needed a man to become slaves, been slaves, bondage, burdened, cultivate, cultivate, enslave, holding in bondage.
Again, garden, the word means enclosure, captive, imposed, Keep slave, slave, slave worshiper.
This is the word that's used for slave every single time.
But they went slaves.
Yeah, but I mean...
They went on the whips and chains and bonders.
But like, let's see what the scripture says.
Yeah, but what I'm saying...
So why would he need a worker...
We'll explain that right here.
Let's just read what the Bible says.
You know, because I don't like to get my interpretation.
I want to get to what the Bible has to say.
So, going on to verse 6, 2 verse 6. But there went up a mist from the earth, I'm sorry, and watered the whole face of the ground.
And the Lord God formed man out of the dust of the ground.
So this is where Adam was created.
And breathed life into his nostrils to the breath of life.
And man became a living soul.
So, now this is the first, very first man that was created, human being.
So, and God, sorry, the Lord God planted a garden eastward.
So, now the garden's planted.
So, you can see the creation ended, you know, the seventh day of the Sabbath and all that, and the trees and everything.
Oh, wait.
So, in verse 8...
Wait, so the garden...
Yeah, the garden came afterwards.
So, well...
Then why would the Lord...
Then, wouldn't that prove my...
Why would he need a slave?
Which Abad is used for slave...
No, tilling the ground is...
That's not slavery.
I mean, I do my garden.
Well, no, the definition...
Well, what would you call someone that you need to till the ground for you?
To work the ground?
Okay.
No, I agree.
I mean, hey, look.
I'm not saying that we need slaves secretly and, like, it's the only way stuff works.
I don't know.
Whatever.
But, I think it doesn't line up with what the Elohim told men and women to do.
They said, have dominion over all...
The Bible goes on to explain about work and how important it is for the soul.
To work is important for the soul because it shows obedience and it shows all that stuff.
It helps you become a better person.
Because if you've got everything handed to you...
I agree.
In other words, if Adam sat in that God and God did everything for him...
What good would he be?
He'd be sitting there useless.
That's not become slaves.
And that's not the word bondage.
That word abad is used for every single term of a servant and a slave in the Old Testament.
Every single one.
Every time you see he had slaves, I think it's probably hundreds of times.
Adam wasn't a slave here.
Well, yes, but working the ground for yourself, your own farm, your own place, that's not being a slave.
This is his own place because you just said that you submitted that Adam was given dominion over the earth, right?
That was his earth, right?
So he's working his ground.
So that's not slavery.
Yeah, but...
Yeah, but the Lord needed him to do that.
The Elohim said, you have dominion.
They didn't tell them to do anything except what?
All they told them to do is...
The Elohim, not in Genesis 1, they said, be fruitful and multiply.
Not they, what it is is God.
When he said he created man after our own image, he's talking about him and The dominion angels and archangels, they look like us.
There's many classifications of angels.
Some have like the realm with thousand eyeballs and all that stuff.
The dominions and the principalities and the chief angels, they look like us.
They're bigger and stronger, of course, but that's who he's talking about.
His sons are the angels at this point.
So, these are his sons that he created.
Even the fallen angels are his sons.
So, when you say we created them in our image, he's not saying there's other gods.
The Bible clearly specifies every little bit of this stuff.
That's why you've got to read in context.
Here's the thing with the Bible, the awesome thing about it.
So, the Old Testament, there's 66,000 Cross-references from old to new, new to old, and it's amazing.
I know.
I mean, the best authors in the world couldn't even do that.
So, you know, God himself, like, is only one God, you know what I mean?
It's not multiple gods.
And that's why in the Bible, right?
It's specified, so...
And anywhere in the Bible it talks about gods, right?
It's like if it refers to gods and lords, false ones, it's a lowercase letter, a G or L. When it refers to God himself or Jesus Lord, it's a capital L. So that's why you have to read the Bible very slowly.
Look here real quick, right?
Notice how it says verse 7 and 8, it says Lord, it's capitalized.
You won't see that for anything else.
Okay, I know I'm spending a lot of time on this, but it's because I put so much effort into it.
When the Elohim told, when he first made men and women, and they said, have dominion over everything.
The only two things they were commanded, it wasn't even a command, it was a proclamation, it was just, they told them to be fruitful and multiply.
Now, they didn't say work the earth, till the ground, and the reason I say that is because when you look at the word to be fruitful, it actually says to flourish, bring fruit, bear fruit, and make fruit grow.
Yeah, but you're missing something.
And then multiply, obviously.
Well, you're missing something there.
Genesis 1 talks about man be fruitful, multiply, and all that.
At this point right now, there's no man on the earth.
He's talking about men coming, and Genesis 2 gets right into the start of mankind.
So he's talking about men who have multiplied and all that stuff.
Yeah, but he just made male and female in Genesis 1.26.
No, not that point.
Remember I told you, Genesis 1 is a layout.
Then they start to get into more detail when you go into Genesis 2 and 3 and so on.
The reason I disagree with that is right here.
Because a proof that, in my opinion...
Okay, Genesis 2, 1. I'm trying to do each one, and I don't want to interrupt, but thus the heavens were created in their vast array.
What version you read, by the way?
Well, okay.
Whatever.
Just do two, one.
What translation are you using?
I just read that quick.
I think it was New King James.
I think that one was New King James.
Hold on a second.
I understand about these apostate Bibles.
This was Satan's plan to destroy the Word of God.
This is why we use the King James in Older.
Like King James Geneva down to the original Hebrew and Latin...
Hebrew, I'm sorry, in Greek text.
But the new King James, the NIV Bible, they removed thousands of verses.
I'm sorry, thousands of words, changed verses around...
What does King James say on 2.1, Genesis 2.1?
Genesis 2.1, it says, the heavens and earth were finished and all the host of them.
That's the firmament and all that.
That's better.
But...
It's not...
I mean, we all know this.
Who is the Lord of Hosts?
That's Jesus.
Well, in the Old Testament, it's Yahweh, right?
Jesus.
Well, okay, go ahead.
Jesus, because a lot of people have a perception, I know you're new into the faith and all that, a lot of people have a perception that Jesus came into existence through Mary.
No, he was here long before creation.
Jesus is Yahweh.
I personally, I understand that because I believed that for a long time.
Yeah.
But I've...
Honestly, either way, I'm going to show you guys something here.
The word for host...
Lord of Hosts is army, warfare, conflict, forced battle, hardship, struggle, from the sky.
I'm going to read this to you slowly.
Lord of Hosts is also...
If I had a party, right?
I'm host of the party.
It's like you said, me and my wife, we had a party, right?
I'm the host.
That's what we...
Yes.
Well, no, that's what we think it means.
Yes, I... I agree.
Before you go any further though, let me finish my review here because it's very important to get what the Bible says in context and this way I could rebuke the first session you talked about.
So we must read the Bible in context, right?
So...
Again, everything was all created.
So now comes man, and the seventh day we talked about, we skipped right to again, to Genesis 6. True 6, I'm sorry.
But they went up in the midst of the earth, and watered the whole face of the earth.
And the Lord God formed man out of the dust of the ground, and bred life into his soul, and became a living soul.
And the Lord God planted, now this is after creation, right?
After all this.
Now the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden.
And there he put a man whom he had formed.
A man.
Referring to one person.
And out of the ground made Lord God grow every tree that is pleasant to his sight.
So now, listen, this is after all the trees in the earth were already established, right?
Now the garden comes.
Now he puts man in there.
Now he plants these trees.
To grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight and good for food.
So in this garden, God made all the trees for food except for one.
The tree of life is also in the midst of the garden and in the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
So he put all these trees in the garden specifically from the east except for that one tree.
And a river went out of the east of the garden and from thence it was parted and became into four heads.
So in the name of the first is Pison.
That has encompassed the whole land of the Havalia and where there is gold.
And the gold of that land is good.
There is a bellium, an onyx stone, and the name of the second river is Gihon.
The name of the same is Compass, the whole land of Ethiopia.
So it gives you a layout where Eden was.
This is giving you a specific...
So for people out there that think Eden was another dimension or something, no, this is actually on the earth.
I mean, that's why I was saying before that.
It has to...
Oh, sorry, go ahead.
And the man, I'm sorry, in the name of the third river is Heikal, that is which goes toward the east of Assyria, and the fourth is the river Euphrates.
So this is exactly where the Garden of Eden was.
No, anyway.
And it goes on to say, "And the Lord God took man and put him in the garden of Eden to dress it and keep it." To maintain it, basically.
"And the Lord God commanded man," let me finish this chapter for us, "And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, "Of every tree of the garden you may eat freely, but of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, that I shall not eat it, and for the day you eat it, you shall surely die." And the Lord God said, "It is not good for man that you should be alone." And I will make him a helper.
Yeah, help meet him for him.
I'm sorry.
And out of the ground, the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every fire of the air and brought them unto Adam to see what Adam would call them.
And whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
So, and Adam gave names to all the cattle, the father of the year, and every beast of the field.
But for Adam, there was not found him for help, you know, like a mate, you know what I mean?
Like somebody compatible to him.
And the Lord God caused Adam to go into a deep sleep and fall upon Adam.
And he slept and he took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh inside thereof.
And the rib, which he took, the Lord God taken from man, made he a woman.
That means out of man, you know, and brought her onto the man.
So we made her, this is Eve, right?
And Adam said, this is now the bone of my bones, the flesh of my flesh, and she shall be called woman because she was taken out of man, and therefore shall a man leave his father, and then you talk about in the future when you get married, you know, when a man leaves his father, because Adam at this point is the father.
And leaves his father and mother and shall cleave to one another and shall be one flesh.
And they were both naked and the man and his wife and were not ashamed.
And it goes on to three when it starts getting to the details.
Well, okay.
I'm trying to...
I guess I'm having like ten thoughts at the same moment.
If you...
We're just reading the first chapter of Genesis, and you never made it to two not to eat of a certain...
So what happens to those...
If he grew trees in a place where another place they were allowed to eat all of them, and this place they weren't allowed to eat something called knowledge, where would you rather go to eat?
A place that says eat...
Okay, here's a better example.
If you're looking up something on a certain thing that we were almost forced, I didn't get any of them, to put on our arm, and you want to look up something, do you want to go somewhere where you have infinite resources to see and do your own research and look at?
Or do you want to go live somewhere where they tell you, no, you can't do this one?
Well, God put man in the garden for a reason and explains that in full detail why he did that and everything else before he was able to roam throughout the earth.
Because you've got to understand, too, there's a lot of principalities roaming around the earth, too.
The God in Eden was a protection place.
Well, not yet.
Not yet, yeah.
No, there were still enemies out there.
You know, enemy spiritualities and all that, principalities and all that.
So the God in Eden was a protection for Adam.
So in that garden, he was well protected by the Lord.
What it says is abad, and abad is the word for a servant.
I mean, we can disagree on that, but the listeners, they can look up that word.
He needed a servant, a slave.
But I wanted to say real quick, the host of them, the Lord of hosts, and I'll just say Yahweh just for the sake of the text, The host of them is what we're told that Yahweh identified himself as the Lord of hosts.
And I know that you said like a host of a party.
That wasn't the definition of what they were saying here.
I know it says it here in English, but the definition of...
Okay, is the host of a party a person that brings warfare?
No.
Now, it's just like the mystery that when Paul says, I have been initiated into the mysteries, the word for mystery isn't something like a...
I can't really put my...
The definition in Greek of mysterion...
Is a secret doctrine that's only handed down to people wearing robes that only have to go through an initiation process to receive.
That's the definition of mystery in the Greek that wrote the text.
Mystery isn't this thing that you just can't understand.
It's actually a right...
A text given to you through a rite of passage.
That's what the word mysterion means in the New Testament.
Just like the word host here, and I'm going to show you guys something else here, that why I'm saying the original words open up the entire Bible into an infinite way where you're all of a sudden going to Life is going to get so much infinite.
Which I'm not saying...
Whatever.
I'm not saying anyone isn't infinite.
It was a personal thing.
But...
In Genesis 1, on the fifth day...
Now...
When he created...
This is why I'm saying...
It's the same place with different rules.
They had the same trees in the Garden of Eden.
They had the same trees on Earth.
They weren't different trees.
Because...
They were all Elohim.
Yeah, but...
Wait, hang on.
Wait, real quick.
Just...
The reason I'm saying that the definitions are more important than the words is because...
Where is it?
God, the preacher.
Fifth day.
Let the water seem...
Oh, here we go.
1-21.
So God created Genesis 1-21.
What does your Bible say for whales?
Does it say whales?
Giant whales?
Great whales?
What's that going to do with this, Rayna?
I don't want to get off too subject.
Well, I'm using this one example here.
I have a bunch of others.
Well, great fish.
It's not necessarily because there's a leviathan, too.
That was a great fish.
The word is tannin.
Does King James use whale or does it use creature?
I forget what he uses.
This is why I'm saying that it's the most important to read their definition of their own word.
A great fish.
Lord, prepare the great fish.
The word for tannin, this is why I'm saying Adam was a slave.
They're not our definitions.
They were synonyms that were wrongly put in here.
The word for great fish or whale or whatever...
It's serpent, dragon, sea monster.
Yeah, Leviathan.
Yeah, but...
Well, okay, but that's not a whale.
A serpent is not a whale.
In science, that's a different species.
A dragon isn't a whale.
And also...
Well, Leviathan is a serpent fish...
Well, okay, yeah, but I mean, yes, I agree.
And you've got to remember, too, man, you've got to understand this, too.
Things were much, much different back then than they are today.
Much different.
I agree, but what it says here, but I'm talking definition-wise.
The definition wise, you can't really compare that because that's kind of modern day terms.
The definition back then was like what we perceive as a serpent now, 100% different from back then and what things were back then.
Yeah, but what I'm saying is they were told back then that the serpent was, or I'm sorry, we are told that serpents are bad.
Not all serpents, no, that particular serpent.
Well, a great serpent.
Because it's a great serpent.
What are you referring to now?
The same word.
Tannin.
Now, here's why I'm saying this.
The word tannin is the word that they used.
Remember when Moses and Aaron threw their staff, the two guys threw their staffs down, and they turned into serpents?
And then Aaron threw his and turned into a serpent and it ate theirs?
That's the word that they used, is this word.
So everyone that read fish, that God created the fish, no.
He created the serpent.
And I'm not saying serpents are bad, but we're told later that great serpent is bad.
When the great serpent was created by the Elohim, the Lord God is battling different Elohim.
No, no, no.
This is why you've got to...
Oh man, this is why you gotta read the Bible.
Let me save you a confusion, man.
When you read the Bible in context with the Holy Spirit, right?
You see a Bible for nobody else can see it.
Like, here's the thing, right?
When you read the Bible with the Holy Spirit, Paul mentions this a lot, right?
Not one, I mean, not one scholar in this world could learn the Bible better than somebody learned it from the Holy Spirit.
You can't learn a Bible like this with the spiritual applications from academia.
It has to be taught by the Holy Spirit.
Now when you read this, when you see this stuff here, the thing is you're getting a lot of confusion.
Number one, you're using apostate translations.
That's big time right there.
Number two, you're not understanding the context of the scripture.
And the context is very great, especially Genesis, man.
It's like so much packed into that one chapter, you know, one verse and everything else.
And you've got to understand this.
And you can make references all over the Bible, to apocryphal books and everything else.
But here's the thing, right?
It's not saying every serpent is bad.
Satan took the form of a serpent.
No, I... I'm not reading a translation.
I just want everybody to know that.
I don't read...
I'm reading...
What I'm doing is I'm actually...
The original word that wrote the Torah is in Hebrew.
It's not in any other language.
So that language of what they wrote...
You have to admit, would also be perfect because that's what it was written in.
So what I'm doing is I'm actually defining each of their words that they wrote back then and what their definition was.
Read the description.
Because when you refer to it, let me know what it is so I can read the scripture.
Then you could give your interpretation, whatever the case.
Because right now people are confused with what's going on.
So we're just talking about, you know, the creation and the man and the God and the tree.
Oh, no.
I'm not reading trans...
I don't read any...
No, I'm trying to tell you, because right now you talk about a serpent.
We were just talking about the garden and the specific trees and them being slaves and all that.
And I didn't even get to address that point yet.
So now we're on to serpents, you know what I mean?
So we've got to slow down a little bit and backtrack here.
So the point is, no, I mean, clearly, the garden eater was there.
It was literally a paradise.
All they were required to do was water the garden, work the thing.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, all of us have to do it at a yard.
We love doing it.
You know what I mean?
It wasn't...
They went under bondage to do that.
You know what I mean?
And, you know, they just did it.
You know, Adam did it.
You know what I mean?
Because, you know, working's good and everything else.
The Bible explains that.
Shows obedience and everything else.
So, they went under bondage.
And the thing is, when he created Eve, right?
All they were told, you can live forever in paradise.
Just don't touch that tree.
That's it.
And they went and touched the tree.
You know what I mean?
Because they got beguiled by the serpent.
You know what I mean?
And so, that's the point.
And the thing is, Genesis 1, once again, Genesis 1 gives the breakdown of what happened.
Genesis 2 starts getting to, from the seventh day of creation, when he first made man.
Now, he says men have dominion over the earth and all that.
He's given the layout.
This is Moses, right?
Giving a layout to what the rest of Genesis is going to be like.
He's like a book, right?
Look at a book, they give you a summary of what the book's about.
Then you start getting into stuff.
That's what Genesis 1 is a summary of what's going to happen.
And then he starts getting into detail as you read along Genesis.
Wait, real quick.
I'm not a Glober.
Some guy just said, I'm a Glober.
i'm not a glober man well that's another subject altogether man how do i get off subject but uh yeah you know so you gotta understand the context of this and uh so to say there was man then adam no it's like there was just adam you know plain and simple it was adam itself there's one god he created uh yeah i'm in the form of them that's him and the sons the angels and all that so it's very simple i mean the god's not the author of confusion this is very simple to understand And when you read, it's clear.
It's clear as day.
You know what I mean?
It gives a breakdown, a summary of the rest of the book.
Then chapter 2 gets into the specifics of man.
What happened?
Chapter 3 goes into the fall of man.
Now, yes, when they were kicked out of the garden, he said, dawns and distills.
We can read the Bible, too.
It's what it says.
They were kicked out, and she's going to have labor pains, all this other stuff.
They're going to have to work their butts off to survive at this point.
Because God gave them paradise.
All you do is water the land.
You got all this free food, free everything, no suffering, no nothing.
You just live forever in perfect paradise.
But they chose...
It says you have to work there for it.
Yeah, just till the land.
That's all.
Water the garden.
There's nothing wrong with that.
That's not slavery.
Why then, after...
Well, I mean, I was going to go into something really quick, but I'm just going to put this out there.
In my opinion, the Lord...
Did author confusion.
Because no one before him confused anything until Babel.
Now what he confused, and we don't have to go there, it linguistically says, the Lord God confused the word.
No, they confused...
That's another subject to go together.
But he confused...
The word for language...
He separated the people because he told everybody to get out and multiply, but nobody wanted to do that.
It doesn't say...
Yeah, but it linguistically says that the Lord...
Yeah, confound their language.
He confound their language.
The word for language...
It's a tongue.
It's a tongue.
No, you can find that's why we have different languages now.
When Babel, there was no different languages back then.
It was one tongue.
It specified that.
But we're getting off the subject too here.
You know what I mean?
So, yeah, God colleges that language for a reason.
But if you read the rest of that, it explains exactly why.
You know what I mean?
Because of the fall of man.
Every time when God set things up, he made a covenant.
And he's not backtracking.
He made a covenant and men broke that covenant.
Then he gave judgment and punishment unto them and things change.
You know what I mean?
So this is not changing.
He gave Adam and Eve this paradise, this perfect place to live.
Rent free, all this other stuff, just till the land, water the garden.
That's all I ask you, right?
And stay away from the tree of fruit.
You know what I mean?
You live forever.
What's the problem with that?
So they decided to break God's rules.
That's when they got booted out.
That's when she had to go through labor pains and work their butts off to survive afterwards.
You know what I mean?
Then they were sent out into the world after that point.
But at the point when man started, they were in the garden first.
It's like a baby, right?
It's like a baby, right?
When your baby is first inseminated, right?
It's in the womb.
Now, the garden of Eden, it was kind of that womb.
Because Adam and Eve weren't born.
They were created, right?
So the Adam that got in was that womb that they were grown in, right?
So they broke the rules.
They got kicked out, plain and simple.
And that's where the stuff came from.
Yeah.
We're probably...
Let's stay on that.
I guess we should stay on that one because we're probably going to disagree on it because what I'm doing, I'm showing the literal definition.
No, I'm showing the definitions, but that's not what the Bible says.
I mean, that's why we read through this clearly.
I teach this stuff all the time, and when you read through it full context...
A 10-year-old could understand it.
My son, 8 years old, understood all this.
So how did they live so many hundreds of years back then?
What was the reason for Noah living 900 years, Adam living 900 years?
Does the Bible tell us that?
Or was I the one that just said that, that found that?
No, the ages started decreping afterwards, after the fall of man.
As you can see the generations going on, they started decreping.
Yeah, but how were they living so long?
And how was some people living hundreds of years, and God just said that man was only living 120 years?
No, when it says 120 years, it was 120 years to the epoch.
So when he repented the earth, he said the 120 years, he's going to flood the earth.
That's where it talks about man will be limited to 120 years because obviously after the flood, Noah lived for hundreds of years.
No, it says he's mortal.
His days are only 120 years.
Yeah.
His days are numbered.
Noah...
No, his days are not that man's limited to 120 years old.
He says his man's days are numbered.
In other words, in 120 years, I'm going to erase this stuff.
I understand that, but the Lord literally says, King James, he says, my spirit won't strive with man all the time.
Remember, they were following him.
He is flesh.
His days are only 120 years.
Now, we know after this, after Genesis 6, When Noah had Shem and all those people, they lived way longer than 120 years.
Not until, I think it's after, I want to say Jacob, they started being like, because Noah or Abraham was 175, that's not 120. Noah was 900, that's not 120. None of the years of any of Adam's kids are 120 years.
This is why it's a different, they're talking about People that weren't eating, this is why I'm saying they are the Nephilim, Noah and Shaman, all of them.
The people that weren't eating the tree of life, that weren't following Yahweh, or that weren't, I'm sorry, that were following him but weren't allowed to eat of it, only the Nephilim were allowed to eat of it, or the sons of God.
That's why Adam was called the son of God in Luke.
He was called the son of Elohim, which was Yahweh.
No, you just answered your own question.
Yeah, but how else would you explain him saying...
Because they didn't have the tree of life no more.
That's why people decided, like, slowly, over time, they lived less and less because they didn't have the tree.
Now, this is genetic.
The tree of life brought genetic attributes.
So when Adam and Eve, when they got in, they were meant to live forever.
God never meant to them to even die or even get sick.
So when they got kicked out of the garden, that's when age started getting to them.
And it took many years and they still had this stuff genetically in the blood.
Dead children, dead children, and there was less and less as time goes on.
Then when he says he repented, that he made man, and his men shall live, I mean like I said, men shall be numbered 120 years.
And it's not necessary that a man will live 120 years old.
Let's talk about from this point on, yeah, 120 years old, we're going to flood the earth.
The Lord didn't have regret until after all of them started getting married to Nephilim.
and whatnot he didn't regret well man was it says they lived before 120 years yeah and then then the nephilim won the earth in those days and afterward so the nephilim were living there while a man was living being mortal for 120 years the nephilim which are called the men that live long remember i just proved the men of old means they live long lives and
They were living at the same time as the men that were living 120 years.
It says those days and after.
So the Nephilim, the sons of God, were different men than mankind.
And the sons of God are exactly what Seth, Noah, and Shem are.
Because they all live way longer than 120 years.
And I'm not...
Let the audience decide.
This is just general, you know, linguistics.
I'm just...
They lived 900 years.
The men were dying at 120. Noah was living at 900. They were called...
And they were called the men of Shem.
The word for a noun is Shem.
And Noah has some name, Shem, that lives to basically...
They had nothing to do with Shem.
Yeah, but do you see what I'm...
Like, can you at least say that I'm...
That it's...
That linguistically, the men that lived long lives, the men of Shem.
Shem lived way longer...
No, they all...
Adam's bloodline, they did live a long time.
Even after the flood.
But you can see the degradation over time.
Every generation can see less and less that are living less and less until we get to where we are today.
But you're confusing it with the Nephilim.
Now, the Nephilim, they're not human.
The mothers are human, but the fathers are fallen angels.
And the Bible makes that abundantly clear.
Very clear.
Now, here's the thing, too.
To even back that up, how do you back up the Bible?
You look at history.
Every single ancient culture, every single one of them, talk about the gods coming down on the earth and having sex with the daughters of man and birthing these demigods, right?
Greek mythology, all these ancient cultures talk about that.
All match the same thing.
The Apocrypha, we could get into the Book of Jubilees here says that.
Book of Joshua says that.
The Book of Enoch says that.
We could get to all the ancient cultures that all match exactly what I said.
To the T. You won't find anything else at all that even refers to the...
Because you've got the Sethite theory out there.
People dig that the Nephilim, the men of Renown, were the sons of Seth.
No, they wouldn't curse sons of Seth or anything like that.
They didn't come...
The fathers of these beings, they were not human.
It's genetically impossible.
How can they have sex and have children with humans?
What being that isn't a human can, first of all, get married to a human?
Check this out.
I got it right here in the Bible.
We go to Jude, right?
Obviously there's one chapter.
Verses 6 to 8. Now check this out, right?
And the angels, which kept not their first estate, that's heaven, their boat.
These are the fallen angels.
But left their own habitation, and has reserved an everlasting change of darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
So now, listen, pay attention.
Even, talk about the angels, right?
Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, referring to them like Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them like manna, giving themselves over to fornication.
That's sex.
Talk about these angels giving themselves over to fornication and going after strange flesh and set forth an example, suffering the vengeance of the eternal fire.
Likewise, also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil dignities.
So this is clearly stating, this is also making reference to the book of Enoch, Clearly stating that these angels had sex with men.
They defiled themselves and committed fornication.
Proving that the angels...
Because the thing is, in heaven and earth here, there's two different realms.
Why are you in here to back this up now, right?
Hold on, to back this up?
Hold on a second, let me time you up.
To back this up, right?
Look at Jesus, right?
Jesus came to the earth, right?
No, let me finish.
Let me finish, please.
When Jesus came to the earth, right?
To back this up.
When Jesus came to the earth, he purposely restricted himself to earthly limitations.
He felt pain, he durst, he hungered, right?
In heaven he didn't do that.
So, the same thing with these fallen angels.
When they were in the humble abode, just like the God of Eden, right?
We can refer to the God of Eden.
When they were in the God of Eden, the heavenly abode, they had perfect lives.
They didn't hurt, they couldn't die, nothing like that.
When they were kicked out of God of Eden, when they were kicked out of heaven, guess what?
They became limited on certain things they could do.
You know what I mean?
Right there, perfect example right there.
Yeah, but, so, okay, one thing.
Well, two things, actually.
First, Jesus himself says angels, that they were people getting married in the days of Noah.
They weren't angels.
Two...
No, no, let me go.
That's Matthew 24. Hang on.
Let's go read that, what it exactly says, because...
Hang on a second.
Let me get to that.
Because it's very important to...
Matthew.
He's talking about, let's read in context, right?
So let's, hang on one second.
Let me just get this up.
Matthew 24, right?
Yeah.
So he talks about the prophecies and everything.
Verse 37, he says, right?
38. 24, 38. Yeah, we're going to get to that.
We're going to read in context, though.
We can't just read one verse you need to read in context to fully understand it.
Yeah, look.
So, at this point, he lays out all the prophecies.
So, let's, you know, summarize the chapter here.
He lays out all the prophecies because the apostles asked him, when will it be to come and be a return, right?
He talks about this remote generation to happen, right?
All the things that need to come through, right?
Then...
He says, But as the days of Noah, so shall they also be the Son of Man.
So he says, Before I return, it's going to be like the days of Noah again.
And if you look around, it's definitely like the days of Noah.
We could go on forever with this stuff.
We've done tons of shows on this stuff, me and Brian.
And he goes on, For as the days of Noah, before the flood, they were eaten and drinking, married and given to marriage, until the day Noah entered the ark.
Now, it doesn't say specify who.
It just says they.
No, no.
I'm saying he says people were giving into marriage.
No.
Okay.
They...
For as the days of Noah, before the flood, they were eating and drinking, everybody in general.
It doesn't specify a man.
But it doesn't extinguish the fact that fallen angels had sex with women.
Yes, I know what you're saying.
But where in the Bible does it say that someone can get married that isn't a man or a woman?
Nowhere.
You're not supposed to, but they did anyway.
But no, there's no ceremony for that.
It doesn't have to be.
You can't be married in the Bible if you're not a man or a woman.
The angels are male.
But they're not men.
They're male.
I'm saying yes, they're men.
You just admitted yourself when you said a while ago that we were creating an image.
So they're male, we're male.
If we stood naked next to an angel like that, we looked the same.
I'm saying yes, they're men.
We both have penises, you know what I mean?
And the rest of the stuff.
Hey, we're Italian.
But what I'm saying is He said they married.
So, okay.
When the Bible confirms someone's married, that means that they have to be a man or a woman.
The Bible wouldn't say, oh, they were married.
I'm not arguing that.
You're right.
You're right.
But the angels are male.
There's no female in the kingdom.
Yes, but that means they're men because only men can have children with women.
Yeah, angels too.
I showed you that in Jude.
Okay, so only men can marry women.
Only men can have children with women.
Yeah.
But you're saying angels did it.
Yeah, the Bible just said that.
Well, okay.
I'm just going to do one more thing here.
When it said the sons of God in Genesis 6, 4 came into or married whoever they wanted to and they came into women and they had children with them.
Hmm.
Sons of God married women.
What is the word for...
Okay, I'm not going to ask it.
Sons of God is B'nai Elohim.
Yeah.
What is the word for angel in the Old Testament?
Angel is the son of God.
No.
What's the word for angel?
Look up any word for angel.
Yeah, but we all know what angels are.
No, no.
I'm saying look up the word for it.
Um...
Angels are messengers of the Lord.
Yeah, but what is the word for angel?
Well, I'm telling you what the Bible says.
So the Bible said...
Back then, they didn't use angel.
They didn't say angel or men and women.
There's a specific word for angel when the Bible is...
Yeah, they were known as watches.
They were known as...
No, no, no.
Hang on.
No, no.
Not in the Bible.
They were called...
I'm saying the Bible is specific.
I'm saying the Bible is specific.
The word for angel is not B'nai Ha Elohim.
It's not sons that have mothers that birthed them on earth of God.
The word for angel is Malak.
M-A-L-A-K. They're created by God.
No, Malak means angel.
That means messenger, ambassador, angel.
That's Malik.
It does not...
The Bible is specific.
And it does not say that Malik married daughters and bore children with him.
It says, B'nai ha-Elohim.
B'nai means a male son born of a...
Like, the definition...
You can't say that that word also means That's like saying a man is a woman Like Malik means a messenger It doesn't even specify the sex It doesn't mean anything The sons of God specify The sex of a person We just read that dude No, no, I know, but like, it doesn't say valid.
No, no, because you got your wires crossed in.
Why would it not say angels?
You're confusing yourself with this.
We just clearly read in the Bible that the angels had sex with, plain and simple.
And also go back to Genesis 6. That's talking about another event.
No.
Because what...
They said they committed fornication.
They committed fornication, verifying that angels can have sex.
On the earth.
Committed fornication.
Why did God punish them?
He goes over this stuff.
When all the angels were in prison, right?
He punished them because here's the thing too.
When you get into the specifics of what happened.
Here's why they had sex with their daughter's man.
Because they knew from the God of Eden, right from Genesis chapter 3. That was the first prophecy.
The coming of the Messiah and the coming of the Antichrist.
Right in Genesis chapter 3. From that point forward, when man began to multiply on the earth, they knew that the Messiah had to be born from that perfect bloodline.
Sam Giza attempted to corrupt that blood.
I did a whole show on this.
Sam Giza, which is one of the chief angels that descended on Mount Hermon, attempted to corrupt that bloodline by having sex with the daughters of man to corrupt that.
And that's why God punished them.
And they took a great...
They swore upon all the mutual implications to...
Not to abandon that plan, to destroy the bloodline of humanity.
That's what they wanted to do.
And they almost did it.
And that's the only reason why God flooded the earth for...
Because of this stuff.
Okay.
In King James Bible...
So...
I agree that angels can have sex, but I don't believe that they're these things.
Yeah, but history proves it, too.
Okay, so when it says David sent angels, so David can send angels.
Well, here's the thing.
We'll lay it right out here, right?
So 2 Samuel...
Let me lay something out here, right?
So, by your theory, right?
So, now listen to me, right?
By your theory, we would have to dismiss the book of Enoch, dismiss the book of Joshua, dismiss the book of Jewish, dismiss Greek mythology, all these ancient culture history.
We'd have to dismiss it all.
Thousands of years of history, hundreds of cultures and everything else, we'd have to do this and all that, because every one of them confirmed that they thought the fallen angels were gods, having sex and bringing forth these beings, men of renown.
And again, in this specific dialogue we're talking about, when he said the sons of God, they were directly referring to the fallen angels.
Now, a believer, when you become a believer in Jesus Christ, the Bible says you are an adopted son of God now.
You're not born as a son of God.
You're adopted when you become saved.
And you're grafted into God's Israel, not the physical Israel.
So it's a big step-long process.
So you're not a son of God until you're a believer, plain and simple.
And the Bible makes that very clear.
So the sons of God refer to more than one thing.
So in this case, I'm specifically talking about the angels.
So how could Shem...
Breathe giants.
How could they breathe these beings that had superpowers, literally?
What do you think?
Stan Lee got all this stuff from, like the comic books.
Well, how did Jesus...
That's what Jesus has, superpowers.
That's the lineage of...
What I'm saying is...
Yeah, you don't get that from the...
Because the thing is, if you're saying that they're from Shem, like, how is that possible?
Or whatever...
Wait, what's possible?
Yeah, you know, you said that from...
Ah, man...
If they're from a human, right, these Nephilim from a human, how is it possible that they have these extraordinary heights going up to 5,000 L's, literally?
No, no, I'm saying they are stronger, longer living humans.
Yes, I'm saying that.
I'm saying angels...
I'm saying angels are more likely to be men.
There are long-living humans that did do this.
I agree that there's probably humans that are stronger, multiple humans, not just one super strong human.
And I think that's how we all are supposed to be from the beginning.
No, this is a 100% different thing.
Well, hang on, hang on.
So, I'm trying to get my concept together of what you just said about Enoch.
I'm not saying you don't have to throw out anything.
I'm saying keep everything.
I'm the one that says eat all the trees of everything.
That is good for that you can eat.
Now, just like sources, just like when you want to do research on the CDC, like, you know, the science, I don't trust either.
I look at all the sources.
I don't just go to one doctrine.
In the book of Enoch, it says that they devour the land.
They devour everything.
Locusts are known in the Bible as land devourers.
Numbers 13.33.
Can you quick go to that?
Because this is what I wanted to say.
I wanted to work myself backwards.
Go to Numbers 13.33.
One second.
And it says that we...
I'll go there with you.
So it says, and I know I have to find the King James.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, so we were in their sight.
Okay.
Do you ever think why they said that twice?
Yeah, because Anak was a Nephilim.
Okay, I agree.
He was a mentor right now.
He was a well-known Nephilim.
No, no, I agree.
We agree that Anak is the Nephilim.
See, what I'm saying, it's so funny because this is why I don't...
I'm appreciative of doing this because in the end, Dan, we both...
Our end goal...
It's the exact same.
The algorithm is different, but the end is exactly the same.
We both work out, want to do great in life, build a productive life.
We're men.
The end purpose is the same.
The algorithm, even the algorithm is kind of similar to get there, or the canon, as they say in the Bible.
The Nephilim, the descendants of Anath.
Okay, I'm reading the linguistic translation of Hebrew.
When it says, and we were in our own sight, like grasshoppers, the word for grasshopper is locust.
That's why, I just, I didn't know this before.
Well, locust, I mean, is not that much bigger than a grasshopper.
Well, yeah.
Well, no, there's a reason, though, that it is locust and not grasshopper.
Is a locust a grasshopper?
I mean...
Well, I mean, you're missing the point.
And when you read...
No, no.
When you read verse 32, you don't need it in context.
No, I shouldn't have...
Yeah, no, I shouldn't have focused on that.
Yeah, but I mean, you didn't read this in context.
Did you read the rest of this before this?
Yes.
They're trying to conquer a land.
No, let's read it.
It's important to read this because people watching have done the standards.
First of all, hold on.
The Canaanites, these were Gilberine and Nephilim.
First of all, right?
So verse 30 says, And Caleb stilled the people before Moses and said, Let us go up once and possess it, and there we'll be able to overcome it.
But the men...
Let me read in context here.
But the men that went up with him said, we be not able to go up against the people because they are stronger than we.
And it gives details.
Hold on.
Two more verses.
And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched into the children of Israel, saying, the land, though, which we have gone to search it, is the land that eat it up in the inhabitants thereof of the people that we saw, men of great stature.
Let me finish.
And there we saw giants, the sons of Anak, Which come of the Giants, and we are like grasshoppers.
So it doesn't matter if you're a grasshopper or a roach or whatever the case.
This is why I'm saying it, Doug.
No, you're missing the context.
Playing semantics with a word like this, it doesn't matter if it was a grasshopper, even a frog, okay?
It doesn't matter what kind of insect.
Here's why.
No, it's not.
Here's why.
Because the thing is right here is clearly stating.
Wait, wait, wait.
Please, please.
This is great.
This is gold I have.
I have gold here.
Okay, so you just read, it is a land that eats or devours its inhabitants, it eats everything up, it eats all the land up.
Yeah, just like the Nephilim chapter 6. Okay, yes, exactly.
No, no, I agree.
Look, we agree on this.
And Enoch said, they devour the land, they all devour everything.
We're told, this is what we're told, the Nephilim conquer and devour land.
Okay.
Okay.
That isn't theirs.
Grasshoppers.
Do grasshoppers devour plants and shrubs and land and stuff like that?
No.
No, it's making a point.
It's just saying that...
No, no, no.
Hang on, hang on.
It's making a point of the size compared to us.
Please!
Wait.
Okay.
The word in the Septuagint, which I know people might know, but is locust, which I didn't even know that.
I knew it was locust years ago, a couple years ago when I found this.
The word originally is a locust and something...
You have to read the definition of what it's saying.
It is something that...
That eats and devour, like, a locust does that.
Okay, so what it's saying here is, it's true, what you just said is, it's people that are devouring the land.
Okay?
Now, it says, we looked like grasshoppers, we looked like locusts to them.
Now, some people might be like, oh, what's the difference, locust or grasshopper?
Which, I would, yes, okay, I get that.
But, we looked like locusts, It says, in our sight, this is the original word, like locusts, and thus also we were in their sight, I. They also, that's why it says it twice there.
It doesn't say, it literally says, that's why it's confusing to read it in the first place, We were in the original words.
I'm reading the original definitions.
We looked like grasshoppers and so did that.
They looked the same to each other.
And the reason I'm saying this, hang on, let me finish this.
I know people might be spiraling or whatever.
The reason they're saying this is what are the spies doing?
They're conquering a land that isn't theirs.
That's what locusts do.
That's why they both went like this.
They're like, oh, we're both locusts.
They're both Nephilim, and I'm going to prove it one more.
Please give me this one last thing.
Scroll over to Anak has a father.
Joshua, let's first do 21-11.
Joshua, 21-11.
One second, maybe.
This is why it's the same thing.
They're all Nephilim.
Because remember, Abraham was told to go to a foreign land.
Who is told to go to a foreign land and conquer it?
Do you know why that land was chosen?
Abraham was told to conquer a foreign land.
The spies were conquering a foreign land.
Nephilim conquered foreign lands.
They saw their own people that they said are Nephilim and that they both look like giants to each other.
And now Joshua 21, they gave them Kiriath Ar...
Okay, wait, hang on.
I'll read the King James.
They gave them the city of Arba, the father of Anak, which is Hebron.
When you read, this says it here, and Joshua 14, 15 says it.
Hebron is Arba.
They're the same person.
Because when you read the original language, it says they gave them Kiriath Arba, the father of Anak.
Anak's father is living in the land that Abraham has already been in for many, many, many, many, many years.
His father is Hebron.
Anak's dad is, Hebron had two names.
It was Hebron and Arba.
When you read the original words, it says whose ancestor is Joshua 14, I think it's 14, 15. King James.
Hang on.
And the name of Hebron before was Kiriath Arba.
Go to King James, Joshua 14, 15. Hold on.
It's the same thing.
We're doing the same.
It's the same.
It's basically the same verse, pretty much.
Just Joshua 14, 15. It says the name of Hebron before was Kiriath Arba, which Arba was a great man among them.
He says the name Hebron was Kiriath Arba.
It was his name.
It's like how Abraham changed his name from Abram to Abraham.
It's the same person.
That's why both their lands were called Hebron.
It was the same people.
The name of Hebron before was Kiriath Arba, which Arba was a great man among men.
And then in 2111, it says he was an axe father.
Hebron is Levi's ancestor.
Great-grandson.
Levi's Jacob's son.
It's not the same.
Yes, it is.
It's right there.
Let me get to this.
Hebron is Arba.
It literally says the name of Hebron before was Kiriath Arba.
Literally.
It says Hebron used to be called Kiriath Arba.
Hold on a second.
Hang on a second.
This is definitive proof.
That shows, as I said, the men of Shem.
They lived hundreds of years.
The Nephilim.
They were hundreds of years.
No, that's specifically talking about the fallen angels.
Abraham already conquered all of this land years ago.
15 generations ago.
He already had all this.
That wasn't even Abraham's land in the first place.
That's what Nephilim's do.
They conquer land.
Abraham was told to go to a foreign land.
Yeah, because he was possessing a threat to them.
Why do you think Joshua was instructed by God to go kill?
Now, if you read the details, he said, don't touch nothing in the city, don't take nothing.
No, they were hiding from Joshua.
But you're missing the point.
You're missing the entire point of this.
The reason why they did this for him, he told them don't touch nothing because it was genetically corrupted.
Plain and simple.
Hebron is the ancestor.
No, but you forget about the other thing too.
There's Gilberim still.
Like Nimrod, right?
He became a mighty man and all that.
He was a Gilberim.
He wasn't enough of him.
There's a difference between Gilberim and...
It says the Lord God is Gilberim.
So is Nephilim.
I mean, what's his name?
Nimrod was in the giveaway.
Exactly!
Yes!
He was amazing.
Yeah, but it's not the same thing.
What are you talking about?
Hold on.
Genesis 6 is referring directly to the sons of God.
The children of God were the fallen angels that had sex with the Lord.
No, okay.
And right here, look, check this out, right?
Hold on, yo.
No, let me stop.
No, wait, wait, wait.
It's my turn to talk, yeah.
So, you're missing the whole point of this.
You're trying to make semantics out of this, yeah.
The whole point of this, the spies literally said that these things, it's clear as day right there.
The men went up before him and not going up against the people for they are stronger than us.
So, they're not the same.
And it goes on to say...
Wait, what?
No, no, let me talk...
No.
It goes on to say, right, specifying.
They searched the land and all that, and they ate up the habits thereof, and the people that we saw are great men of great stature.
So if you're a great man of great stature, why would you report of men bigger than you?
And I saw the giants...
The sons of Anak, which come of the giants.
And we were like grasshoppers in that sight.
In other words, comparing us to them so they're not the same.
They're saying that the bigger and stronger than us...
Look up the original word.
No, it's not...
You're missing the point.
This is why you need to read the Bible in context.
You can't take one single verse and add stuff to it.
That's not how it works.
When you read the Bible...
No, you're not reading it in context.
You simply...
No, no, but Hebron...
No, no, no, no, no.
Stop, stop.
All right.
This is how a Bible study goes.
You don't just read a verse and add stuff.
All religions do that, false religions.
They add stuff to it and jump frog hop all over the Bible to try to build up a case that's not there.
That's what this is going on here.
You fail to read this in context.
Context is key.
This is why a lot of people don't understand the Bible because they fail to read in context.
The context is clearly stating their report from the spies clearly stating they're not the same at all.
They are not the same.
They're bigger, they're stronger than we are.
And he compared us to them.
They might be bigger and stronger, yeah, but they're still Nephilim because...
Because we all...
I'm assuming you believe this.
Nephilim...
Hang on.
Because I'm pretty sure you believe...
There's Gilberine.
Okay, Gilberine and not Nephilim.
No, Yahweh is the gibberim.
Read Psalm 24.8.
You're missing the whole point.
The whole construct of this whole thing, you completely missed the context of this.
Completely.
Like you just bypassed the whole context.
You went right to verse 33. You don't do it that way.
I mean, you've got to read the Bible in context.
When you miss the context, you miss the whole point.
Well, no, that's what you're supposed to do.
Remember, you said it has 66,000.
You're supposed to do that.
Yes, when you know it in context.
That's what I'm doing.
We're talking about gibberish.
Yeah, but you missed the context of it.
When you brought this up, you didn't explain the context.
You didn't even talk about it.
There's no context when it says, I am gibberish.
I just showed it on screen.
You can't deny it.
It's right there.
Right there in our faces, and you talk about the angels...
I don't understand.
Wait, what's right there?
No, hold on.
First of all, you denied the angels to be able to have sex, first of all, at the beginning.
I proved to you, right from the Bible, that the angels can have sex right in Jude.
They specified that.
And also, we proved here that these were not the same.
Who you're talking about, they are not the same.
Only men and women get married.
We know that only men and women can get married.
No, yes, and the angels got married too.
They married who they wanted.
Then they're men.
Yes, but they're not mortal men.
They are males.
Angels are males.
Okay, so marriage is defined as...
No, your thing is, here you go.
You're thinking with a limited conscious.
You've got to understand this is a spiritual base, okay?
The Bible is not limited to mankind's limitations.
You know what I mean?
You're not understanding this.
I have a perfect thing.
It's so good.
The Bible doesn't define marriage as a man and an angel.
Or a man and a son of God.
A male and a female.
Yes, exactly.
I agree.
There you go.
Wait, wait, wait.
When someone's married...
Hang on, let me just finish this.
The definition of someone being married, which we're told are the sons of Elohim and then the angels...
If the Bible said angels can marry women, it would have said that's marriage.
Hold on, you just contradicted yourself.
When it says angels married people, that's not marriage.
Angels were married.
Hold on, let me time you out.
You just contradicted yourself.
No, I'm agreeing that angels are men.
You said in the beginning that we are created in their image.
You acknowledge that, right?
We are.
Angels are males.
No, we're created to be like him Yeah, image and likeness.
That's what he says.
Image and likeness.
We're made to be like God.
If one of God's, just say Michael the Archangel, calm down, stand next to you.
He's going to be bigger than you.
But you've got to look the same.
The same features, five fingers, and all that stuff.
You're going to have the same likeness as him.
He's a male.
Oh, he's a man.
Yeah, I agree.
All right, so you agree with that, right?
But you're agreeing that the angels had sex with him.
This is clearly stated.
I agree!
Yes, no, I'm saying...
See, what I'm telling you is we agree, but I'm saying...
We see the same outcome, except that you're...
Not you.
But we're made to put a picture in our head that angels are this thing.
No.
Only men that look like us and that have something, you know, that people have, Italians, can get married to women.
We have our one and they have their zero.
The binary...
Everyone knows it's binary code.
One zero makes everything.
The man, the woman, the thing and the...
If angels can marry and become married, have a minister, I pronounce you under God, you know, Mr. and Mrs. Angel Malik, then that, and the Bible just said before that marriage is between a man and a woman,
then by definition, and the definition of an angel's messenger, that means it's a messenger guy, like a postman or something, and he's getting married to A woman.
And they have children, guess, because they're men and they're human.
That's why I'm saying the sons of God were such...
Is a son an angel?
A son is a man born of a woman.
Of Elohim.
Of multiple Elohims.
Had gotten married with probably smoke shows back then, which I'm the one that's saying they're smoke shows because they were probably better looking, healthier.
I'm all for that.
And they married them.
And children, and those children were mighty, and the men that lived hundreds of years, what was Noah?
They all lived hundreds of years.
And they were called the men of Shem.
Shem is a title.
Noah literally names his son, I am Shem.
And if Christ is a title, just like I'm Christ, it's the same, it's them.
The men of Shem, the men of old, there's only a thing for marriage between men and women.
The Bible won't classify...
Okay, your viewers.
Does a Bible classify a marriage between...
Oh, yeah, they're married.
That's Gabriel and his wife...
No, they only classify marriage, they only would say, oh, they're married, that's a man and a woman.
If an angel marries a man and an angel is this supernatural thing that isn't man and woman, it would say they weren't married, they just had sex.
But it doesn't.
It said they were married.
If it was an angel, it wouldn't have said married.
If it was a man, it would say married.
Do you see what I'm saying?
I can get it deeper, but like, It's like two dudes.
If there are two dudes smashing and doing all that, the Bible wouldn't say, oh, they were married.
Because it's one angel and one...
No.
They wouldn't say it's married because the Bible says it's only men and women.
Angels...
If an angel married a woman, that's a marriage.
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Wait.
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Can anybody hear me?
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Thank you.
Hello?
I mean, I guess I can just keep this going.
Thank you.
you Thank you.
Am I muted too?
Oh, you got me!
One, two, one, two, two.
Could you hand me now?
Yes.
You got me?
Sorry, I hit my microphone and knocked the wire out.
I don't even know what power is.
Dude, it was the greatest.
I had the greatest.
Of course it happens.
I was on this sweet rant, man, and it was just like, boom, and my brain was firing.
I think we were both talking at the same time, so I knocked my mic out because I got to stop talking with my hands.
So there we go.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Alright, so once again, what I was explaining here, right?
In Genesis 6, going back to this one more time, right?
And it specifies, let me finish here.
Alright, the sons of God, the sons of God saw the doors of men.
Specifying two different things.
They would have never said sons of God and daughters of God.
It would have said a man and woman.
That's it.
Like in Genesis 1, right?
It said man and woman.
That's it.
Male and female.
It specifies sons of God and daughters of men.
These are not humans.
Sons!
Sons!
The word for son is a male born of a female woman.
Not in this case.
In this case here, these are the sons of God.
Adam wasn't born.
Yes.
No, that derails your whole thing because Adam wasn't born.
Adam was created.
Yeah, but you're taking it in a different context.
Again, context.
Okay?
Adam wasn't born.
Eve wasn't born.
They were created.
So the sons of God were created too.
This is specifically talking, because it would have never said, specifying the sons of God saw the daughters of men.
Clearly, Satan is two different things.
They're not human.
Sons of God, this is not human.
They had no human blood in them.
They're pure angelic.
These are angelic beings.
And here's the thing, too, like I said.
To back this up, hang on, to back this up, and I'm going to really rip into this now.
To back this up, right?
Let's go to other sources, right?
To back this up.
The book of Joshua, chapter 4, and the judges and rulers went to, these were the watchers, they called them, right?
Went to the daughters of men and took them as wives and forced their husbands according to their choice.
And the sons of men, in those days, took from the cattle of the earth.
So it's specified in the sons of men and these rulers, right?
And the beasts in the field in the fall of the year and taught mixture of animals.
Yeah, that's when they taught them how...
To corrupt all flesh and everything else.
Jubilees, right?
Jubilees 7, 21, 25 says, For only these things that came the flood upon the earth, namely Onan, to the fornication wherein the watchers, against the law of their ordinances, went Hurin, after the daughters of men, and took themselves as wives which they chose.
And they made the beginning of uncleansiness, and they begot sons, the Nephilim, That were unlike and devoured one another, and a giant slew the Nephilim, Nephilim, I'm sorry, and Nephilim slew the Epi.
And Eljo's mankind of one another, and everyone sold himself.
Confirming exactly what Genesis 6 says.
Plain and simple.
Wait, wait, wait.
Show me where it said they had sex with animals.
Genesis 6. All flesh was on earth.
No, no, no.
Wait, where does it say they had sex with animals?
Well, flesh on the earth was corrupt.
How do you think you get corrupted?
That's where bestiality came from.
The fallen angels taught me not to...
I mean, where does it say they had sex with them?
Right here.
Okay, well, look...
Right here, verse 11. But I mean, I'm sure...
God looked upon the earth and behold, it was corrupt.
All flesh had corrupted its way.
I agree.
I mean, yeah, they ate each other's flesh.
That's what God says that he said, you will eat the flesh of kings in Revelation.
Everyone, like, that's what he says.
You eat the flesh of the kings during the, when they conquer everything.
That's what Nephilim do.
That's why he's telling you to eat the flesh of the kings that weren't...
No, this has nothing to do with that.
That's what Revelation says.
That's nothing to do with this.
I know, but we're all talking about eating people's flesh.
Yeah, but Nephilim did.
They were cannibals.
Because that's what the people of the Bible are.
Not all of them.
I don't think all Nephilim are bad.
Moses didn't go around eating people's bodies.
The Jews at the time didn't do that either.
What was manna?
How does manna...
Do you ever look what manna is?
Manna's food...
God put...
Manna come from the sky.
He didn't let dead body parts come from the sky.
Manna?
Okay.
How does manna...
Dude, you're way off.
I mean, like you're...
How does manna grow...
What food grows worms in it after it gets old?
Where the worm doesn't die?
So God had body parts fall from the sky during Exodus?
No, I... It's...
Jesus said, I am the manna.
Yeah, the...
Manna could be many things like meat, right?
Meat, as it's said in the Bible, is fruit or meat.
You know what we call meat today?
Animals.
And just so happens, you know what the definition of man-a is?
The definition of it is, what is this?
Something that goes bad, not to leave it out, or worms will be in it.
Worms only go into meat.
It's called man-a.
The word for man-a And then Jesus said, I am the manna of the wilderness.
That is nothing at all to do with what we're talking about.
At all.
Let me go back to numbers though.
No, no, no.
We're not going back to nothing right now.
I'm not jumping all over the place here like this.
I hate being redirected and all that.
I know.
It's so easy.
We're going to stick to the point here that the whole point of this argument is to prove that the sons of God in Genesis 6 specifically are fallen angels.
That's what they are.
But it doesn't...
Why wouldn't...
The Bible is...
You're right.
The Bible is specific.
If it said they were angels that are fallen, the word for to fall is the fall, and then it would have said Malik.
Because they have words for falling and for angels.
They didn't use any of those words in the sons of God.
The sons of God literally say...
And the daughters of men.
So who are the daughters of men then?
The daughters of mankind are the women that were in whether the garden or the earth.
That's literally the word for men.
Why do you think I... No, this is...
This is...
There's two different words for men.
There's one...
There's a number, 121, which means Adam, and there's a number...
And they're both...
You're completely, like, passing this whole point.
You shouldn't yet try to...
Word-pick things.
Like, can you try to take words and...
No, no, I'm not.
I promise...
No, you clearly do not, brother.
You have not read...
I promise you I'm not, because I'm...
You have not presented one Bible verse in this show or this whole time.
We got two hours into this program.
You have not presented one Bible verse in context.
Not one.
That's the problem right there.
Then two, you used apostate Bibles at the beginning.
No, I'm not using any Bible.
No, you are now, but you were before when you've done all this research.
I was just using a quick Bible to see the first numbers.
But that's what you've been doing this whole time.
No, no, no.
I'm not using the apostate Bible.
No, Shane, that's how you got all this research done.
Because you used apostate Bibles.
You didn't read the Bible in context.
That's why you have this in your brain.
I'm not using any...
No, not now.
I'm saying, like, during the whole time, like, years or whatever, you started researching the stuff, you didn't read these brushes in context, clearly, and you've been using apostate Bibles.
You know what I mean?
So, leading up to the show here.
And the thing is, you didn't at all present any of this stuff in context.
That's the issue.
Okay, let's move on.
So, you're...
I still haven't...
Don, the ultimate...
Okay, so you're saying when it specifically says that Hebron is Kiriath Arba, you're saying that that's a lie?
I didn't say that.
But you're not understanding...
Okay, so is Hebron Kiriath...
You're not understanding the difference between Kilbereans and Nephilim.
No, no.
No, no.
Hang on.
No, Anak is a Nephilim.
Oh, man.
They clearly stated, I mean, like, in context, clearly states that they were bigger.
They weren't the same.
They were bigger.
And stronger.
Clearly says it, and, like, an eight-year-old kid could read that and clearly understand that.
Okay, so what were Nephilim?
Were Nephilim bigger?
Here's the thing.
You presented your argument.
Alright, you gave that one verse.
What was that?
Numbers 33. Here's what you presented, right?
So you jumped into this new subject, right?
And you saw the sons of the giants and the sons of Anak, which come of the giants and were the known sight grasshoppers, and you saw there were sight.
So without reading this verse in context, what you did was you jumped into this word grasshopper.
And try to make a claim or whatever that it's not a grasshopper.
It doesn't matter.
But whatever the case, okay?
You're missing the whole...
No, no, no.
It wasn't for the grasshopper.
No, no, no, no, nothing.
You missed the whole context of the thrust.
You didn't at all even know this thrust in context.
You assumed things because you played word salad with the word grasshopper.
That has nothing at all to do with any of this stuff.
It clearly says that they were different people.
They were bigger.
Again, they were bigger and stronger.
And we were like grasshoppers or whatever in their site.
He's specifically saying...
He's specifically saying capirin.
He's not using meanings and all that stuff.
It's not symbology.
People are taller.
You know it doesn't even say that...
It's not symbology, dude.
In other words, if I stood in front of a whole coat watch, I mean, probably just as big as him.
I was saying, like, my son, right?
When he was first born, he'd be like a grasshopper in my sight.
This is literally using literal language.
It's not figuratively, not metaphorically.
Why do they say, and we were the same in our sight?
No.
Why were they saying we're the same as them?
They meant that from the Nephilim.
Once again.
We were in our sight like grasshoppers.
As we were to them.
Yeah, comparing.
That's them saying they...
No, let's read what this says.
So again, Caleb still, Moses said, let's go up at once and possess it.
Talk about the land they want to take and we'll be able to overcome it.
But the men, you know, the spies that went up to him said, we might not be able to go up against these people because they are stronger than us.
Right?
That right there is one difference from them that's stronger.
And two, they brought up an evil report talking about, you know, what they've seen in the land.
And they said unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, though, which we have gone to search it, is the land that eats up inhabitants thereof.
And the people we saw in them are of great men of stature.
And it says no such thing.
And it says, There we saw the giants.
Right?
And we were like, you know, goes on to say, we were like...
The word for giants.
Hold on, hold on, let me finish.
And the sons of Anak, which come of the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers.
So we were in the sight.
So it's making a difference, okay?
And so we were in their sight.
That's them saying that they look the same.
How's that possible?
No, you don't misunderstand it.
Because this is what I'm saying.
If I had somebody next to me with my own same size, right?
How could I say he was smaller than me?
How could I say...
Okay, stronger is one thing.
No, no, no.
You're missing the whole point.
Stronger is one thing.
No, no.
You're missing a point, man.
How could...
This makes no sense, then.
Absolutely no sense.
If I had somebody standing right next to me, if I'm...
Hang on, hang on.
Let me finish, okay?
I gave you enough time to talk.
I gave you plenty of time, right?
So it makes no sense at all because you're not understanding what this is saying.
If I got somebody my size, just like me in front of me, right, how could he be small to me?
It makes no sense at all.
He's saying that we were like grasshoppers in their site, and we were in theirs.
Otherwise, they seen us, and we were like grasshoppers to them.
I'm not saying that.
This is where I wasn't clear with my words.
I'm saying they're not saying that they're grasshoppers because they're so small.
I'm saying...
We were like them.
Wait, wait, wait, please.
No, no, something to clarify.
It's because I didn't say it correctly, Brian.
They're comparing themselves the same, not from their height and their strength.
They're comparing themselves of their They're both locusts.
They're both devouring the land.
That's what they're saying.
No, that's not what they're saying at all.
Because the Nephilim...
No, it says grasshoppers, first of all, not locusts.
No, it says grasshoppers.
It says grasshoppers.
We could go to every translation and it's going to say grasshoppers.
It's not locust.
I don't care what the Septuagint is.
It doesn't say that.
It says grasshoppers.
Well, actually, I agree with you that the Septuagint is whatever, but the Hebrew version says locust.
The actual Hebrew word is defining locust.
But you're missing the point, dude.
You're missing the point.
No, that is the point, because the Nephilim are locust.
No, man.
It's not saying that, though, in this point.
It's in this context of saying...
Okay, are the Nephilim devourers of land?
This is like kindergarten stuff.
They are saying in comparison.
They're not saying...
They're not getting...
We can break down words, grasshoppers, though, and get to some other stuff.
You're breaking...
You're playing words out.
That's what you do.
This has nothing at all to do at all, okay?
This has nothing to do with that at all.
Are the Nephilim devourers of land?
No, you're going off to another dimension that's not there.
Like this has nothing to do with that.
It doesn't matter if it says grasshoppers.
It doesn't matter if it says puppies.
It doesn't matter if it says hawks.
It has nothing to do with any of that you're talking about.
This is just a comparison from them to them.
That's it.
That's all it is.
They were bigger than us and they're stronger than us.
And they've seen us.
It's clear as day right there.
We don't have to argue about this.
It's right there.
It's right there in text.
God says, he sends the locusts because...
Yeah, that's a different story though.
That's nothing to do with this.
But what do locusts do every time in the Bible?
Yes, I agree with you, but this is not a symbolic thing.
You're referring to this in the symbolic language.
It's not symbolic.
It's just a size comparison.
That's all it is.
It's just saying...
No, no.
I'm not talking about...
No, no.
You are.
You are.
So you think they're using locusts as a size comparison?
No, dude.
It doesn't matter.
You don't get the point.
They're just simply making a size comparison.
Then why would they say you look the same?
They're not saying that devour land in this text here.
They're saying the size comparison.
That's all it is.
That's all that is.
But they know that Nephilim devour land.
Oh, man...
That's not what this is saying.
They're just using this as a size comparison.
A size comparison, I mean.
That's all they're doing.
They're not making coded messages or symbolic stuff.
It's plainly simple that we were the size of grasshoppers or locusts, right?
We were the size of locusts with New York Times, right?
We were the size of locusts compared to them.
That's what they're saying.
And they've seen us.
That's exactly what this says.
There's no secrets to this.
There's no hidden codes and messages.
It's right there.
I mean, they can see it on screen.
And people on Shake the Wake Radio, obviously, you can see it on...
I love that this person, whoever said Jim Locus, I'm saying, yes, Locus aren't grasshoppers, and the original version, the original word says Locus.
I agree with that.
See, I agree with everyone.
It's so funny, because we actually agree on everything and the same outcome at the end, but the words that they're using, But it doesn't matter in this point.
You know what I mean?
There's times when things are meant to be symbolic.
There's times when things are literal.
This is literal.
But you're taking us as symbolic.
Dude, this is so easy, man.
This is like grade school stuff.
So then, what do you mean...
So, Dan, what is your explanation?
Excuse me.
What it says...
And we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, if you say.
As we were in their sight.
Yeah, it's making a size comparison.
That's all it is.
We were the same to each other.
I mean, like, come on.
You can't read that?
I mean, it's right on screen.
Everybody here is reading this and seeing this.
Like, how do you debate that?
It's right there in black and white.
I don't understand.
In the original language, it says...
It doesn't matter, though.
It doesn't matter if it's a grasshopper or a locus.
Okay, can I do one thing real quick?
It's not the point.
You're picking a word, and you try to, like, weaponize that word.
That has nothing to do with any of this.
This is just a size...
All this is is a size comparison.
It's all it is.
Nothing less, nothing more.
Go to Job 36.22 because I just want to show you how important knowing what you're reading is.
I'm not saying you're not...
You know the Bible.
I know you do.
I'm not like saying...
No, you are saying that because I clearly demonstrate this is only a size comparison.
I could go to Job 22. I could go all over the Bible.
We know locusts devour fields.
I'm showing you the word, the definition.
We understand what the definition is.
We agree with you.
We agree with you, but this context here has nothing to do with that.
This is just simply a size comparison.
That's all it is.
That's all it is.
Hang on, hang on.
Go to Job 36.22, please.
This one thing, I just want to show you why...
Yeah, you're jumping all over the Bible, man.
Yeah.
Can you hop there quick?
Because it's about...
No, it's about what we're talking about with words have the original meaning and that they're changed here.
Job 36.22.
Yeah, but, oh man, you're doing the same thing.
Well, I'm sorry, but I'm trying to show you that the original words aren't what, this is why I'm doing this.
But it doesn't matter if it's locus or not.
That's what you're not getting.
It doesn't matter.
Anybody in the chat room, please come up with a simplified way to explain this to the guy.
All this is is a size comparison.
It's not detailed meanings of a certain insect.
It's just a size comparison.
So yeah, we'll use your term.
Let's say it's locusts, right?
It's just a size comparison.
That's all it is.
A locusts ain't that much bigger.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
Are you saying just by coincidence that the men of renown in Hashem, the men of live long lives like Noah, and that we look like locusts that are the Nephilim, they're classified as locusts that devour land?
You're saying those are all coincidences?
Not look like locusts.
We're the size of locusts to them.
The size, not look like them.
It says we're in the appearance.
No, we're comparing to the size.
Wait, wait, stay there.
Hang on, hang on.
We'll go back.
Wait, stay on Joe quick.
No, you just like right there.
Right here, right?
We saw the Giants in the Suns of Anarch, and they come as Giants, and we were in their own sight as grasshoppers.
They didn't say we...
Hold on, not a...
You said they look like it.
They didn't say that.
We said we...
They were on sight.
We were, like, comparing...
They were, like, grasshoppers compared to them.
And they just right there, when you're reading context, because they said they were Giants.
Right there, right at the beginning of the rush, right there, you just saw, right there, it says, we saw the giants.
So, a giant's not going to call another giant a giant.
A giant's going to call, you know, like somebody bigger than you, a giant to you.
The original word says Nephilim.
The original word doesn't say giant.
It doesn't matter, dude.
It's giants and Nephilim.
Okay, go to joke 36. No, no, no.
Hold on, hold on.
We're not going anywhere.
We are not going anywhere.
This is common sense.
No, you're going off the topic.
You're going way off and it's going to divert.
I know how these tactics work.
I debate people all the time.
The context of this verse, the context, clearly stating in size comparison, we were like, okay, locusts compared to them.
And it says right at the beginning, we saw the giants.
Why would a giant call another giant a giant?
It's not a giant to them, if they were the same.
It doesn't make no sense.
No, it's not okay, man.
It's clear as day.
And I shouldn't even argue with this.
This is right on screen, right in black and white, in context.
That right there is debunked completely.
It's technically not saying...
No, it is saying that.
It is saying that.
It is saying that.
Yeah, it just said that.
It doesn't say they're taller than we were.
It said they're stronger than us.
And look, yeah.
Technically.
We saw the Giants.
Giants are bigger than you.
This is clear, dude.
If you saw someone that was stronger than you but your same height, what would you say?
They're stronger.
They said their people we saw are men of great stature.
Bigger than you!
They were stronger than you.
You're not even paying attention, man.
Okay, if anybody wants to look at the original word, it says Nephilim, and it says locusts.
Only Nephilim are locusts.
They look like locusts to them, to the Nephilim.
That's what it says.
No, this is a literal thing to talk about.
In other words, we look like locusts or grasshoppers, whatever they want to use.
We look like them compared to them.
They used that word for a reason.
They didn't just use it because they know what ants were.
They talked about ants.
Yeah, but you think there's certain codes and mysteries.
The Bible is specific.
It knows what it's doing.
No, you're not understanding.
It's right there, though.
It's right in the context.
You can't argue with that.
The Bible would never use grasshoppers.
Oh, whatever.
They look like insects.
Locusts was there for a reason.
Oh, people do that all the time.
Like, if I stand next to a midget, he'll look like a chihuahua to me.
You know what I mean?
People use different things.
It's nothing to do with that.
You're playing word solid.
That's all.
You're basing this whole theory off of word solid.
When we can clearly read, here's the thing, right?
I'm basing it off definitions.
Yeah.
But definitions for different...
Hold on.
No, no, no, no.
We're not going nowhere.
We're going to settle this right here.
No, we're not going anywhere.
This is what I said.
It's right here, right?
Plain and simple.
This is only making a size comparison.
It's all it is.
It's not saying, oh, there's a specific meaning behind us, okay?
Words have different meanings in different contexts.
Okay, so 2,000 years ago.
If I called you a chihuahua, right, compared to me, you're not actually a chihuahua.
You're not a dog, you know what I mean?
I'm just a size comparison.
That's what they're doing.
That's all it is.
There's no secrets behind that.
So a thousand years ago, or two thousand years ago, or three thousand years ago, when they wrote this in Hebrew, and they wrote, we saw the Nephilim and we looked like locusts, So, were they wrong for reading those words then?
Because that's what they wrote 3,000 years ago.
They wrote Nephilim and locusts.
It doesn't matter if it's locusts.
You're not getting a point.
No, Nephilim.
Nephilim.
They wrote Nephilim.
They didn't write giant.
You're in different texts in different contexts.
You're missing the point of this.
This is why you need to study the Bible in context, dude.
This is why you need to do that.
I would suggest right there...
I know what I told you.
What I'm saying is it lines up better when you actually do that.
No, it doesn't.
It does not because...
Yes, it lines up perfectly.
No, it doesn't.
Not at all.
The context doesn't have any gray areas when you do this.
There's no gray...
Yes, every gray area when nobody knows the mysteries of the Lord, the gray area is filled in.
Yeah, but you fail to read the verse in context.
That was your number one strike.
It doesn't matter.
It does matter.
It's the mystery of the Lord.
Right there, right there.
You just said it doesn't matter.
No, no, no.
Right there.
I'm sorry, man.
I'm sorry about that exposure right from this whole thing.
Because you said it doesn't matter in the context.
No, no, I meant...
No, I know what you meant, man.
But you've been proving it all night, man.
You've been reading verses out of context.
And every time I show you the context, you cut me off.
I know what context is.
Yeah, but how come every time I read the context, you cut me off?
When I try to read the context, you cut me off.
Yeah, but you cut me off.
You don't let me speak.
I gave you a good 45 minutes, a half hour, whatever, to let you speak your own word.
I didn't even interrupt you.
When I spoke my stuff and I tried to read in context, you kept interrupting me.
And you're still doing it.
And the thing is, you fail to read these things in context.
You don't even know what they mean.
Just because you read a definition of something, you don't know the definition and context.
There's a big difference.
This is a basic English...
Words don't change definition.
In context, they don't.
So a man can be a woman?
In context?
No, if I called you bro, right?
When I call you bro?
You're not my actual brother, but I'm calling you bro.
It's a different context.
I mean, is this really this hard?
I mean, like...
Dan, we're not going to...
This is why there's so many disagreements between denominations.
I don't go to any denomination.
I'm not a book.
No religion, no denomination.
I tell you the Bible with the Holy Spirit.
See, even if I was reading it your way, we would still have disagreements on it because it's how it's written.
What I'm saying is the definition of the word is the only way to cut through the actual psyop.
That's the only way is reading the original definition.
What sign up is going on here?
Just go to Job 3622. Where's the sign up in here?
I'm going to show you.
Job 3622. That has nothing to do.
3622?
If I show you a word that is definitely 1 million percent not the word.
It's in a different context.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
I agree.
I mean, I agree about...
I know what context is.
Show Job 3622. 3622?
This is why all this time we're never going to agree.
God exalted his power who teaches like him.
Okay, thank you.
I'm just going to do this one at a time.
What do you think the definition for the word behold is?
The original word.
I'm going to read one off to you, each one.
What do you think behold means?
Which I would agree.
We're probably going to agree on all of this except one.
Dude, you're missing a point.
Hang on, hang on.
No, no, no.
Hang on, nothing.
You're playing word salad again.
I'm not word salad.
I'm doing the definition.
Job, this here has nothing at all.
Zero to do with numbers.
33. Nothing.
No, it doesn't.
It's a different story, a different thing, a different event.
No, no, no.
I'm using what I'm doing is...
No, I understand.
We understand what you're saying.
We're not arguing with that at all.
We agree with that.
But you need to understand the meanings and context.
That's a whole different thing.
That's why the Bible, you need to read in context.
Context is key.
If you don't understand the context, you're not going to understand the meaning.
It doesn't matter.
I can go right now and take one word, look it up in the lexicon, all that stuff, I mean the strong score coordinates.
I can do all that.
But when it's out of context, it doesn't matter.
You're not understanding.
The context is key.
Can we do this one thing?
I'm just going to ask you six definitions.
No, I'm not going to do that.
I'm not going to go down that route because I know exactly where that's going to go.
It's going to go after another subject and you're going to try to use that as some kind of fuel.
No, no.
I'm just showing you.
No, no, nothing.
I debate people all the time.
I know everybody's psychology when I do this.
I'm trying to show you that we all know the same thing.
No, I know what you're trying to do.
No, no, no, no, real quick.
We'll stay on this subject here until we finish it.
Please, can we just...
No, no.
I'm not doing that, dude.
I am not doing that.
I'm not going to be bounced around.
You're going to stay on the subject.
This is how it goes.
Plain and simple.
And this is exactly what this says.
It's clear as day.
You don't need to go look up, oh, this word means this, or it must mean something else.
No, no.
I'm using this to show my argument.
All it is is size comparison.
And what part of that you don't get?
What part?
No, no.
We're going to disagree on that.
Let's disagree on that because we're not going to get anywhere.
No, I'm not going to do that because I hate to disagree.
I hate doing that.
We're not going to do that.
The Bible is very clear, plain and simple.
Bottom line...
I read definitions.
I read the definition of the word...
Yes, but there's context to change definitions.
Hang on, hang on.
I could call you a chihuahua, right?
Does that mean you're actually a dog?
No.
Yeah, but the Bible doesn't...
You're not getting the point, man.
You are not getting the point.
The Bible's precise.
When you're in school, right?
You see this little sixth grade or something.
You call them a little runt or something like that.
You know what I mean?
That's a size comparison.
This is what's going on here.
They're saying they're like runt compared to these people.
I mean, what part of the communication...
So they just coincidentally used the same thing that a Nephilim is described as?
In a different context.
Yes, there you go.
There you go.
Different context.
Okay.
All right.
So you heard it.
So yes, they use the same thing in Nephilim as described as for themselves, but it's different context.
Okay.
All right.
Let the listeners decide that.
But they identified themselves as what the Nephilim are, but it's in a different context.
But you're muted, I think.
Nope, I'm here.
Oh, okay, yeah.
If we could do this one thing, it would mean the world.
Job 36.22.
I just went there.
I'll read the...
Okay, if you don't want to do it, I don't want to...
Yeah, but I know the point you're getting, okay?
It does not change the complexity of this.
Okay, well, I want the listeners to...
The complexity of this, as you're talking about now, it started off other things, but it led to this.
At least, let me say for the listeners, this is why I'm here doing this.
Because I did this off of just me wanting to start reading the original definition.
And the reason I did this, well, I'll get into that.
Here's what I usually do with people, and almost every time, they're like, that's really crazy.
This is why I'm here, where I'm at now, why I do this, is from this specific verse, Job 36, 22. Now, get the King James Version or whatever you guys want.
I'm reading the original Hebrew.
So it says, behold.
What is the definition for behold?
What would you guys think?
I would say, I won't ask you, I would say it means to look and see and to look at something.
So, what's the definition?
It says, behold, to see, and to look.
Okay, that's a good definition.
I agree with the Bible here.
I agree, but it's a good definition, good synonym.
When you perceive something and you are using your sight, behold, great.
God, El.
Okay, that's a whole other story, but it says God is El here, instead of Elohim, instead of Yah, whatever.
Exalted.
Exalted.
What does exalted...
What would you define exalted as?
I would say it's really high up.
Okay, so...
The word for exalted is to be inaccessibly high and high.
Lifted.
Great.
That's a great synonym.
Awesome.
Alright, what's the point here?
Okay, this is the word that I'm specifically talking about.
In his power.
Power.
Power.
Can I please ask everyone on here, if you guys just want to type in, how would you define the word power?
It has to do with what we're talking about.
Okay.
Well, the definition of power is a small reptile, a kind of lizard, a creeping thing listed in Leviticus 1130. It linguistically says here that God is the exalted lizard person.
Now, you could say that they're just using that in context for being someone that has abilities to change.
Yeah, that's 100% wrong, man.
Biblical definition of power right here.
Ability to act and ability to produce an effort and act on control or influence.
That's what power means.
The ability to have control, authority, or influence over...
I agree.
Biblical definition right there.
I don't know where you got that from because God is not a lizard, brother.
No, no.
Where is the word definition...
The Bible definition for power?
Dude, you...
No, I'm talking about the Hebrew!
What does this matter where we...
No!
No, dude, I think we've done that.
No, no, no, you missed the point.
No, you're missing the point.
You still haven't...
You're diverting from numbers, yeah.
Yeah, completely diverting.
It has nothing at all to do with the heck with this at all.
Why would...
What I'm saying is the reason that I got to...
No, it doesn't mean that, okay?
It probably does not mean a lizard.
Is...
No, I know that.
But I'm saying, why?
Why would the Hebrew use the word describing the lizard of Leviticus 1130 for how God is powerful?
It says, literally, it's the same word for the lizard.
The gecko and the lizard in Leviticus 1130. In a different context, though.
How would God be compared to a lizard?
Yeah, but you're...
Now we're on to God.
This is what I was just talking about.
I gave you the opportunity.
I did.
Because I knew exactly how you're going to do this.
So you're going to divert the subject over to God.
No, no, no, no.
Don't interrupt me again.
All right?
Now you want to go me into an argument if God was listening or not.
We're not going to go down that road.
That's another subject at another time.
We're going to focus right here on, because it's not solved yet, about the giants we're talking about and the grasshoppers and all that.
All right?
So you're playing word solid.
This is a common tactic that people do in debates.
This is common tact, and this is, this right here, this right here is a perfect example of people out here.
Perfect example when people do not read the Bible in context.
100% example right here.
Because we're, I mean, this is all over the place, man.
And you have not at all, like, even acknowledged that this is, all it is is a size comparison.
You're jumping over to Job, which has nothing to do with this at all.
And you're making comparisons of another context.
There's nothing to do with this.
This is what you're not getting.
And we're going to call this to an end, man, because this is going on long enough, man.
People in the chat room are getting frustrated.
I'm getting frustrated.
And you clearly don't know the Bible in context, man.
Very plain and simple, man.
I don't mean to discourage you or anything like that, but you need to read the Bible in context.
And what you fail to do as well, to read the Bible, right?
It's not from an academia point of view.
You need to read the Bible with the help of the Holy Spirit, which you have not done.
Because you said you believe in God, but you have not acknowledged that you're saved with Jesus Christ.
So you were never ever even able to even quite understand the Bible.
If you don't have the Holy Spirit in you, you can look up definitions all you want, make all these points and all that.
If you do not have the Holy Spirit with you, you will never understand the Bible.
Never.
In my reading of the definitions, I understand.
It doesn't matter in this context.
Again, the line of communication has been disrupted.
You are not understanding the context of this.
Context is key.
You don't understand this.
How many times am I going to tell you, man?
You can't...
How are you going to tell me what a verse is when you don't know the context of it?
How are you going to tell me what a word in that verse is?
I mean, I can read the entire thing.
Yeah, but you did it.
All of Job 36 is doing what he's doing.
I don't care what Job's doing.
No, no.
Stop going off the set.
We're going to stay here.
I don't care what you do, but you did it.
That's the point.
You take your verses out of context, like I said.
Thank you for your time, man.
But I'm done with this, man, because, you know, everybody here could clearly, I mean, look in the chat room.
You know what I mean?
Everybody here clearly, everybody watching my show, these people are very well-knowledged in the Scriptures.
They belong to the network of ministries we run.
We're very well-knowledged in the Scriptures.
And a couple little word-solid things are not going to win this debate, brother.
You need to have the knowledge of the Holy Spirit, which you don't have.
You're not even going to be able to understand the context of this.
You need to have the Holy Spirit.
Right now, let me offer you some advice.
You can take it as a grain of salt.
Stop what you're doing right now.
Get on your knees.
Confess yourself to Jesus Christ.
Become a believer in Jesus Christ.
And ask Him for the Holy Spirit.
And ask the Holy Spirit to give you the divine knowledge...
Of descriptions.
And he will open your eyes to stuff and you will clearly see, I mean, there's no words I can use to express this.
He will clearly open your eyes to see what you're really looking at.
I know what you're saying.
I know what you're saying.
You're not going to know that until you actually do it.
So I would suggest you do that, and then maybe sometime come back on and tell me what you learned.
You know what I mean?
But you have completely took all these verses way out of context, way out, and not understanding the context of the verses.
That's a very big issue.
And this is what false ministries do all the time.
This is what Bible scholars do all the time.
And idiots like Stephen Dawkins that think they could, you know, push Bible contradictions.
There ain't none.
Because people, it's reading comprehension skills.
Simple.
This is simple reading comprehension skills in the spirit.
And you, you, you get size compared.
That's all it is.
Doesn't matter if it's grandpa or whatever.
They said we were, in other words, they were bigger than us and they were stronger.
That's all they're saying.
That's all they are saying.
There's no hidden meaning.
Thank you, brother, for coming on.
God bless you, man.
I appreciate at least me getting on here.
I knew we'd disagree on it.
I'm grateful for coming on here and talking to somebody.
We agree on it, actually, a lot philosophically.
Especially right now.
I've always said this with everyone, the very few people that I can talk to this with, it's very few.
The end goal is the same.
It's like how...
It's the same end goal.
Same operation, but it's just a different...
Yeah, we agree on stuff, but your end goal should be the same as always, is to become a believer in Jesus Christ.
We could have differences in agreement and all that stuff, but the end goal is, like you said, the end goal should be becoming a child of the Lord, becoming an adopted child of God by believing in Jesus Christ as your Savior.
That's what the end goal should be.
I believe every original word that it says there.
That's what I believe.
When you read the Bible with the Holy Spirit, you're going to see a whole different thing.
You can read this chapter, right, from Genesis 1. You can read that a million times.
You can know backwards and forwards by heart.
But you're not going to know what it means if you have the Holy Spirit with you.
I read that chapter so many times when I had the Holy Spirit with me.
It was the first time reading it in my life.
I've seen things I've never seen before.
Do you know why?
I'm doing it this way because I don't want words to change.
I don't believe words change original meaning.
I don't believe man can mean woman.
Yeah, but that would be like saying man means woman.
When it says...
You know what I mean?
A man is a definition.
An angel is a definition.
A son.
A lizard.
Whatever.
Words have meaning.
And the original meaning that was written here isn't...
You're taking it out of context, dude.
Yeah, but there's no context.
There is plenty.
What do you talk about?
The whole Bible is full of context.
That's why it's important.
Paul even talked about that.
People misquote Paul all the time.
But when you read Paul's books in context, it's a whole different story.
You know what I mean?
This is the importance of reading in context.
That's what you need to do.
When you do that, then you've got to understand what I'm talking about.
I don't have the words right now to tell you, to even explain it to you now.
Because I try in many ways, I can't get to you, but all I can say is, go ask for the help of the Holy Spirit, then you'll understand.
That's it.
So thank you for your time, brother.
Thank you.
Yep.
God bless you, man.
Hope you all had fun.
You do.
All right, so guys, yeah, I don't know how much more clear.
I gave him ample enough time, and I think I was fair.
If I wasn't fair, please tell me.
I gave him a good 45 minutes.
I didn't even interrupt him once.
I let him speak what he had to speak.
Then when I went to rebuke the first subject, he completely cut me off when I was trying to explain context.
So many times he cut me off, I couldn't even explain what I was trying to say.
Then he jumps to another subject.
That right there is poor debating skills.
It really shows that he's all over the place.
And I'm not bashing the guy.
God bless you, Jim.
You know what I mean?
No harm, no ill will told you or anything like that.
And I'm just saying, man, because I debate people all the time, man.
Literally daily.
Not figuratively, literally.
Daily I debate people.
And it's every single time you see the same psychology and it's the same thing.
Same tactics.
When they get called out on something or somebody's bringing something up to valid points, they'll cut you off.
Then they'll do everything in their power to divert you to another subject so you forget about that one.
So, oh, well, don't worry about that.
We could agree to disagree.
I don't like that.
I don't play that game.
We're not going to say I'd agree to disagree.
No, we're just going to stay on that subject until it's settled.
That's how I operate.
I can't stand when people say, oh, I want to agree to disagree.
No, that's not how this works.
If you debate me, you better bring it off.
Plain and simple.
And I'm nobody special.
Before the show, it's like, you know, I'm going to let the Holy Spirit debate him.
Not me.
Dan Bidondi didn't debate you, Jim.
The Holy Spirit did.
And I used the Word of God from the horse's mouth, if you want to put it that way.
And no, I'm not saying God's a horse.
See how context right there?
That's another example right there.
It's like, oh, I've got it from the horse's mouth, right?
The Bible.
Am I saying that God's a horse?
No.
Oh, the meaning of horse means this or that.
See where it goes all over the place?
No.
It's context.
I know God's not a horse.
It's just the context used.
I said the horse's mouth, right?
Yeah, it's in the context.
We know a horse, the true meaning of a horse.
You look it up as an animal, right?
But in this context I used it in, it's different.
Right there, one more time for this.
I'm going to go over this one more time.
When they were scouting out the land, plain and simple, they brought up a report to Moses telling them what was in the land.
And they're saying they went to search the land and all that.
You know, what was going on in the land.
And the land that eat up the inhabitants thereof and all the people that saw it were men of great stature.
So if you're a man of great stature, why would you call another man of great stature?
If you're the same.
Makes no sense.
Right?
And it goes on.
And they saw the giants.
If you're a giant, why would you see another giant?
Somebody explain that to me.
Please.
If you're a giant...
Why would you call somebody else a giant that's bigger than you?
Clearly saying they're bigger than us.
They're not the same, clearly.
And they call them the sons of Nock, which come of the giants.
Clearly right there in the black and white dude, you can't, how do you debate that?
And we were in our own site as grasshoppers, and so we were in that site.
So, in that perspective, we were small as grasshoppers compared to them.
In that perspective, he's saying, we were like grasshoppers to them.
Do you not, oh man, like, let me use this for example, right?
This marker, and this flash drive, right?
They went into the land, doo-doo-doo-doo-doo, to spy on the giants, right?
Right?
Actually, let me use this.
Hold on a second.
Because I've got to show you something.
So, the pen and the flesh, right?
Went into the land.
It's like, oh, Moses.
They were giants.
And we were like grass.
Look.
Yeah.
To them, we were the size of grasshoppers to them.
In their perspective, they were grasshoppers compared to them.
That's what they're getting at.
But if they were the same, right?
Two of the same pens.
Why would they call each other grasshoppers to them?
Why would they call each other giants?
Does that make any damn sense at all?
I mean, wow.
I mean, like...
I'm not the brightest bulb in the box, man.
But yeah, I'm just, my mind's blown because I can't believe how simple this is.
And again, it goes to the Bible comprehension stuff.
It is simple.
A freaking five-year-old in kindergarten can read this and fully understand the context of it.
This is how they do it, guys.
Perfect.
The reason why I brought him on for all guys is because I wanted to prove a point.
I wanted to prove a point, right?
Because I was alluding to his comments, his post on TikTok, whatever.
I was reading everything, right?
And I knew his tactics.
Because again, when you debate people, you study their psychology, right?
How they operate, right?
And I seen him doing that, debating people.
People were roasting him literally in the comments.
And he was using the same tactic.
So I'm like, alright.
And the reason why I brought him on for, you know, God bless him.
I'm not bashing the man, you know, whatever the case.
But I brought him on to prove a point with this, okay?
That people, the number one point I'm trying to prove here is context is key.
Like John Hall, brother John Hall says all the time.
Read the Bible in context.
Context is key.
Ever since I've been doing that, I learned the Bible better than I ever did in my life.
How do you, how?
Yeah, sure.
And I agree with Tim, I mean Jim, on one thing.
If I was to read this one verse, we could make probably a hundred different interpretations.
In fact, if I was to give this verse out right now to a thousand people, more than likely you're going to have, and I suppose a thousand people read that one verse, just that one verse, and tell me what it means.
You're going to have 97, 98% of people, 998 people, maybe even a whole thousand.
They're going to have completely different meanings for that one verse.
Now, take those same thousand people, right?
Give them this verse again, but this time tell them to read it in context.
Right?
Read it in context, which is like almost a whole chapter.
Now give me an interpretation of that verse.
And you've got to have a thousand people all having the same interpretation.
Because how do you argue that?
How?
And let me use another example, right?
Just say I wrote a book.
In my book, I love all people, right?
But this guy, John, for example, right?
He accused me of saying that Dan Bedani hates black people.
But I love black people.
I love people.
I think everybody, it doesn't matter what color you are, I think we're all created equal, right?
That's my book, right?
So now what people will do is they'll take, they'll half-ass, excuse the language, and say, look, right in Dan Bedani's book, he's saying he hates black people.
Look, it's right there.
And people will read it.
Oh, yeah, it is.
Oh, my God, he's a racist.
So going back, it's like, well, did you read that in context before you come over and punch me?
Well, go read in context and come back to me.
Oh, oh, he said he was accused of hating black people, but he goes on to explain that he loves people of all color.
That's the perfect example we've just seen today, guys.
Perfect example, right there.
And we're saying he had debate this whole time.
He's trying to derail the, I mean, just swing the subject over.
And yeah, go back to Genesis 6. And what we're going to do, guys, we're going to take phone calls on here, too, in a few minutes here.
So I know some people called.
I'll call you back.
And, you know, just save all the, you know, going to the Rumble and all that.
We'll just cancel that on Rumble.
We'll just do it here.
Just try to stay within the construct of YouTube's guidelines.
That's all I ask that.
You know what I mean?
Because if you don't, I'm going to hang up on you.
You know what I mean?
We need to protect our program.
You know what I mean?
So anyway...
Genesis 6, the sons of God and the sons of the daughters of men.
Why would it specify that?
Why would it say Shem's sons marry people?
Makes no sense.
So this is a new one I heard.
Yeah, you got the Sethi theory.
This is the dumbed down, watered down mainstream churches out there who teach that the Nephilim, you know, the sons of the angels, they were just, you know, the cursed sons of Seth.
Oh yeah, because, yeah, somehow Seth...
And his bloodline went out somehow.
They just mysteriously started breathing giants.
And even with the giants, they tried to downplay that too.
And the whole point is, they tried to take the spirituality out of this.
And I didn't even drop the bomb yet.
I didn't even get to drop the bomb on that stuff.
You know what I mean?
You go to the Strong's Concordance, Men of Renown.
That was the whole thing of him coming on in the first place.
He was trying to say the Men of Renown and not...
These people.
Now, the men of renown, you look up the definition, strong coordinates, when you want to use definitions.
It's a name, renowned, fame, famous person, the name, infamous, like somebody of some kind of stature.
Physical or whatever, like a president, right?
Or a prime minister, somebody who's famous.
Tom Brady.
He's a man of renown.
But again, when you use the words in context, whole different story.
So, they specified in the scriptures what these things were like.
And again, going to the book of Enoch, man, I mean, that's why it kept cutting me off, because we can go to the ancient texts.
There's no debate in it.
And we understand that before anybody shouts out, oh, the book of Enoch's not biblical.
No, we're not saying it is.
It's an extra-canical book, not a canonical book, that could back up the Bible.
These ancient texts here, Show you stuff that happens.
And by the way, the Bible does...
Look at this, for example, right?
The book of Joshua is referenced in our Bible.
Timothy chapter 38 and Samuel 118. The book of...
And the book of Jubilees is by Moses, right?
So the book of Enoch, the Bible references this book, and Jude, we just showed you, chapter 1, verse 14 and 15, which matches verbatim of Enoch 119. Then you've got Enoch referencing the Bible himself, was a man who walked with God and everything else, and he was caught up by God.
And I don't know about you, but...
You've got to be somebody special to be caught up by God.
You've got to because there's only two people in history that were caught up by God that didn't face death.
It was Enoch and the prophet Elias.
So that's going to add some validity to him, don't you think?
Yeah.
And if the Bible quotes right from the book of Enoch, yeah, there you go.
You don't need to use a slide rule to figure this out.
That there's some validity to this book because the Bible would have never quoted if there wasn't.
And it quotes, and again, there's two Enoch's in the Bible.
The first one was Cain's son.
He's the evil one.
This Enoch here was Noah's great-grandfather.
He was the son from Adam.
So two different bloodlines, per se.
So he's quoting Genesis 5, 21-24, Hebrews 11, 5, and Luke 3, 37. There's validity to this, okay?
Regardless what you believe in, okay?
And I'm not saying it's canical.
So, that being said, okay?
You got these books, and yeah, let's do this, yeah.
Let's do this, right?
You can pull it up if you want, if you've got the book, you knock on the screen.
Genesis chapter 6. I mean, actually, let me just go, though, because I like to show you guys on video, I mean, illustration here.
So, hang on a second.
Enoch 6 RH Charles P.E.F. So guys, while we're getting this up here, I just want to point this out.
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I wish to God I was in my mother's basement.
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And so, the book Enoch, chapter 6. Now tell me this does not sound familiar, right?
The good thing with the Bible, you match things with the Bible.
We read Genesis 6, right?
Now let's read Enoch 6. And it came to pass when the children of men, now look, the children of men, specifying the children of men, had multiplied in those days, were born unto men.
And them beautiful, comely daughters.
So, specifying the children of men multiplied in the earth, and born unto them were beautiful, comely daughters.
And look, the angels, look, sons of God saw the daughters of men, Genesis.
The angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another, come, let us choose us wives.
Oh, they can't get married.
Oh, then why are they choosing wives here?
From among the children of men, specifying the children of men, and begot us children, and Samjiza, who was their leader, said unto them, I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this thing, and I alone shall not have to pay the penalty of this great sin.
And they all answered unto him and said, Let us all swear an oath upon and bind ourselves upon mutual implications, not to abandon this plan, but to do this thing.
Then they all swore their souls to bind themselves upon mutual implications.
And there were 200 of these angels and they descended upon the Mount Herb.
And so it goes on with the angels.
So, you gotta understand what's going on here.
The angels knew this was a great sin.
And people said, oh, angels can't have sex.
We just read in Jude that they can.
They most certainly can.
And I'm gonna go there real quick, yeah?
And normally I don't like to jump over the Bible, but yeah, because this is all in the context of it.
To say, oh, angels can't have sex.
The Bible doesn't say that.
Oh, it doesn't?
It doesn't say that, right?
Where is it?
Yeah.
Right there.
Jude, right?
The verse section says the angels...
Angels.
Not men, not sons of Seth or sons of Shem or anything like that.
The angels, which kept not their first estate.
In other words, heaven was their first estate.
That's where they were created.
And obviously they're sons of God because God created them.
To be a son, you don't have to be born because we debunked that real quick.
We say, oh, you have to be born to be a son.
No.
Adam wasn't born.
Eve wasn't born out of a womb.
So, and I just like derailing everything he said.
And the angels which kept not their first state in heaven, but left their own habitation, they left.
They rebelled against God and they got kicked out.
He has reserved and everlasting change under darkness into the judgment of the great day.
And says that even as these angels, right?
Even as Sodom and Gomorrah.
Now we all know what happened in Sodom and Gomorrah.
And the cities about them like manna.
Giving themselves over the fornication and going after strange flesh.
I set forth an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
And likewise, saying that they have filthy dreamers and defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil dignities.
Talking about the fallen angels!
Word for word, in Enoch, and again Enoch references right out of Judeo, about Jesus coming when there's ten dollars in elect ones, holy ones.
Yeah, how do you debate this?
How?
How?
And again, when you go to the book, we just read from the book of Joshua, I think, right?
Yeah, a little while ago.
How do you debate this?
Then when you go to the ancient cultures, and now mind you, mind you, these cultures didn't even know the other ones existed.
So the Aztecs had no clue who the Greeks were, unless they traveled over there.
They didn't know what was going on over there.
They all had the same stories.
How is that possible?
So we're supposed to throw out thousands of years of human history, all the records from historical accounts from these ancient cultures, the Book of Enoch, the Book of Joshua, the Book of Jubilees, the Bible, throw it all out because you want to base something off a definition that you misinterpreted?
The same thing for you Sethite people?
How do they all have the same story?
How?
That's impossible.
Just say we couldn't travel, right?
And there was no such thing as boats or planes.
Obviously, you could never get over across the ocean to Europe, right?
I'm using this for example.
You people watching in the UK right now.
Just say there was no boats, no planes.
There'd be no way for us to even cross over the ocean.
Right?
So that being said...
How would we have the same things, the same accounts for something we've seen?
If this is all made up and if this is all not true.
How would that be possible?
It's not possible.
And all these ancient cultures and the history and the extra books all back up Genesis 6 to prove that they were fallen angels.
And again, the Romans, all the ancient Aesthetics and Mayans and all that, they thought they were gods because they couldn't explain what these things were.
They seen these beings, like these supernatural beings, copulating and having sex with women, their own women.
And bringing forth these giants, which most of them are, and they came out different ways.
I mean, giants and some were not exactly much of a giant, but they have super abilities and superstatures that the other Nephilim didn't have.
You know what I mean?
And that's why it specifies.
I mean, again, specifies.
Yeah, they took the daughters of men, specifies.
Some of the guys took them, and they seemed that they were fair and all that.
And there was giants on earth, especially giants on earth in those days, and also after that.
And when the sons of God had sex and came, sorry to use the, well, it's in the Bible, so you can't call me using filthy language, because it's right there, sexual language.
They came into the daughters of men, injected their sperm, I don't know how much more I can say, alright?
And they bore children to them.
And they became men of, which are old, and men of renown.
And especially, oh, he had giants too.
So these men of old, men of renown specified in this context here, that these were the mighty ones at the time, the Titans.
Remember the story of the Titans?
That's not mythology, that's real.
None of that stuff is mythology.
I can't stand, oh, it's all folklore, it's mythology.
It's not.
How does these ancient cultures have the same stories?
These things were real.
Except for they weren't gods.
That's the only thing that they got it wrong.
And the point is, when these people do this, what are they doing?
They're taking the supernatural out of the Bible.
They're just ripping it right out of the Bible.
This is a supernatural thing, guys.
Why do you think God punished these angels so bad for?
Because they literally, emphatically, almost destroyed mankind.
You know, Sam Giza, their plan, and I really truly believe that their plan was to destroy humanity so the Messiah could never come.
That was their goal.
And they hate men.
Because they're Joseph men.
Because God said they're going to be above the angels.
You know what I mean?
There's a million reasons why they did this swap.
And the Bible's very clear on this stuff.
I mean, I don't know how much more clear I can get it.
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Yeah.
So it is unreal, guys.
I mean, like, I... Yeah, we've done, for more references on stuff, guys, to save time, yeah.
Me and Brian here, I don't know how many shows we did on Giants, Nephilim, and everything else, and we've done loads of shows.
They're all on our playlist, and Brian's got a ton of them on Visual Disturbance.
There's a ton of them on FOJC Radio, Now You See TV. We've covered Giants and Nephilim.
We proved beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Beyond.
A shadow of a doubt that these are from Fallen Angels.
Not if they are, like David would say, not if they are, not maybe they are, they are.
100%.
Bottom line, there's no discussion at this point no more, because how do you deny this?
How?
And you got some of the so-called best scholars in the world, they try to liquidate the Bible.
Because of the academia crap.
Academia ain't got to tell you, what ain't got to tell you about the Bible?
They don't know enough to know the spiritual context of this stuff.
This is a Holy Spirit thing.
And I'm not saying there's nothing wrong going to college and learning or whatever, but they're not...
University's not going to teach you the Bible the way it's supposed to be.
They're the gatekeepers of the education system.
Oh, people want to learn about it.
Oh, we'll let them, but we're going to control the limitations.
Look at the seminary schools, though.
Look at the Bible colleges, though.
You think they tell the whole truth about the Bible?
No.
They massively water it down.
That's why these pastors don't know their butts from the elbow anymore.
Now, I'm not insulting them.
You know, God bless them from wanting to be ministers of the Lord.
But you're not going to learn the stuff from these people who control it all.
The public education system on every level.
They are not going to allow you to know the truth.
They'll water it down and say, oh, it's only figurative.
They weren't actually giants.
There may be a foot too, you know, that's what they'll do.
When you can dig up tons of articles, evidence from mainstream newspapers back to the 1700s, 1800s, Shot in real giants up to 30 feet tall or more.
Literally.
Not even joking, not even exaggeration.
We showed you that, me and Brian, tons of them on articles and all that.
And when the education system got corrupted here in America in the 1900s, it goes back to the Jesuits and it goes back to the Rockefeller Foundation.
We did several shows on this stuff.
They have massively sealed up this information.
That's why people in the churches today can't comprehend there were such things as giants.
They think it's just figuratively or metaphorically speaking.
They can't comprehend it because the education system.
It's unreal, man.
So, yeah, if you guys want to give a call, let me...
Hang on a second.
I'm going to skip the rumble thing because we'll have to switch over and all that.
So we're just going to do the Q&A here.
And again, I just ask guys, please, just, you know, no election talk, no jab-jab talk, nothing like that.
You know, just try to stick to the subject or if you have...
You know, whatever.
But just try to stay with the respect for YouTube.
Yeah, we might not like it, but they do provide us with a platform.
We do have to respect YouTube's policy.
So if you do go out of that line, we're going to have to hang up on you, you know, plain and simple.
And I don't mean to be mean like that, but we've got to protect our platforms here.
And because this goes on FOJC Radio, so if you're listening Thursday on FOJC Underground Church.
So 912, what's up?
You're on the air.
Hold on a second.
I don't know if you can hear me.
I forgot to say the thing knocked everything out.
You there?
Hello?
Hello?
Real tech audio.
Oh, that was working.
Hang on, I'm quiet right back here.
Hello?
Thank you.
Hi, this is Dan.
You're on here.
What's your name?
Hey, this is T-Bone.
Oh, what's up, brother?
You got a new number?
Oh, yeah.
Well, I've had it about a month, so...
It's brother Wu.
Yeah, well, I mean, you just brought him on to debate or what?
Well, that and to prove a point, you know what I mean, about people not reading the Bible in context and to prove a point that, you know what I mean, like, you know, mainly the context, I should say.
Okay, well, he was unlearned, unstudied, and yet his perception and eyes to see could not see, like, where the center and the right track was.
Yeah.
Like, he wasn't even in the same universe as you.
When it comes to being learned and having knowledge.
So it was like very unequal platform up there.
Yeah, that's the way I kind of figured it when he started going off on different things and changing the subject.
I mean, I don't want to criticize a guy, but I mean, you're right.
You know, it's like he had no idea.
Right, because it takes time and relationship and he Like you were saying, He opens it up and shows you things.
He teaches you and shows you.
And without Him laying it out, yeah, we never see it.
Then He can show you, like you were saying, a hundred more things through that same verse.
Yeah.
We're infinite, never ending.
We'll never get to the bottom of Him, but anyway.
I mean, am I crazy, bro?
I mean, like, is there another better way I could explain that?
I mean, wasn't it not clear what the rest of the said?
They were bigger than them.
I thought he was arguing, I mean, and changing the hop around just to debate.
Just, you know, just to have that there was no foundation or anything to stand on.
No.
It's like, it's not just context.
He just doesn't have eyes to see, and that's how I explain it.
I'd say the Holy Spirit.
Yeah, because when we were going out, he was like, woo, this is good stuff.
So, yeah, it seemed like, now you mentioned that, it seems like he was getting off per se on, I hate to use that term, but getting off on the rivalry going on, whatever, the controversy.
Right.
Yeah, he was just there to be the opposition, I thought.
Yeah.
But, I mean, he's not in the same dimension.
He's, like, a dimension off, but, you know, God bless him anyway, but...
Yeah.
Pray for him.
You know, if he'll get in there, we're going to start working on him, so he'll eventually get it, you know.
Absolutely.
And yeah, Brian, in the chat room, Visual Disturbance.
Yeah, let's get these shows going.
Because me and him got a library of these shows we did together by ourselves and all that.
David did and John's.
I think we should put a pile of them out.
You know, stuff with the Giants and the Fallen Angels and all that.
Yeah, I mean, his word's clear.
I mean, it says it.
You know, he's the type...
It also seemed like he wanted to change and contort it and take God's Word and build and rearrange the way he wanted it to conform to what he wants through definitions.
Mm-hmm.
It's like you're changing cultures, not just language.
You're changing cultures and languages, what?
One, two, three, and in English four different times when words have so many different meanings.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I'm glad you could see that.
I was like, wow, am I the only one that could see this?
Yeah, I'm glad you called it right out exactly how it is.
Yeah, that's all it was.
Right.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
That's all it was.
It was just height comparison.
That's all that was.
It wasn't meaning like, oh, we're going to encode this.
Because before we went on the air, he was talking about like studying Bible codes and all that.
We know that's all garbage, you know, the Bible code crap.
And talking about the stuff.
So he seems like more of a Gnostics than anything, you know what I mean?
And anything he's ever...
It was like he would grasp for everything he's ever heard or...
Yeah.
Maybe try to learn, but don't worry.
You're not going crazy or insane.
That's just what you were in the middle of tonight.
It's not you, bro.
Ask everybody in the chat.
Yeah, thank you.
Yeah, we were, like, the first time I called, everybody was like, hey, let's end it and just hang out.
Like, everybody's had enough.
But, anyhow, maybe I should let somebody else call in, but it's still a great, entertaining show.
Did it drain all your energy?
No, I mean, it's got me fired up.
Oh, okay.
All right.
You know, when you try to explain and get it in, it can tire you out.
You notice how they do that, too?
I always notice in the debate.
When you gut them, when you gut them, oh, let's just agree to disagree.
That's their way of saying let's try to end it mutually.
No, I'm not going to end it mutually because you're wrong.
You know what I mean?
I'm not going to say I'm not going to end it and tie it because you're dead wrong and I'm not going to admit to calling it a draw, you know?
Right.
Well, he wouldn't let you Show him in the Word, look at it and read it, or let you tell it to him, but then later he wanted to tell you what it said when he hasn't looked, memorized, studied, or even known so.
Yeah, if you notice that too, yeah, I'm glad you noticed that too because I gave him all the time to talk, like 45 minutes, I didn't even interrupt him.
Then when it was my turn, I said, let's read it in context, just let me read it.
Two verses in, he's already cutting me off.
And I'm like, dude, let me talk, you know, and they kept doing that because I'm reading in context, now it's making sense.
So in the subconscious, I go, he's making sense now, I gotta stop this.
You know, so that's how these people operate.
He was just using your show to build the tower.
Yeah.
Babble.
Get it?
It was all Babel.
Brian's got the...
Yeah, it was, exactly.
Brian's got a library.
But it was good and entertaining, man.
It's still good.
Sorry I missed last week.
I was tired.
I fell asleep early, but...
Hello to everybody in the chat.
Send my love.
Peace.
Have a great Sabbath and weekend.
Just be Icebreaker.
And I'll woo on out of here.
Yeah, woo!
Alright, later, brother.
Oh, thank you for the text earlier, too.
I gotta stop doing that.
I gotta stop hitting my microphone.
So, yeah.
Thank you, Tim, for the call.
And so, who was next?
Oh, that was Tim the whole time.
Let me see.
541. So, let's call them back.
That was like an hour ago.
Hello?
Hello?
Hi.
Hi, this is Dan.
You're on the air.
How are you doing?
I'm doing fine.
So, the reason I called was when you were on mute.
I had your number on my phone, so I called to see if you would answer it.
You know you're on mute.
Oh, thank you.
I really don't have a lot to say.
Well, yeah, thank you for trying to give me a heads up.
I keep hitting the microphone with my hand when I talk.
Yeah, I can understand that.
But since I'm on the phone, man, oh man, talk about high blood pressure tonight.
Wow.
Yeah.
That was crazy.
It's funny too because I'm looking at everybody's comments in the chat and I can see people getting agitated.
We'll let them talk then we'll hit them with the Bible.
Yeah.
You couldn't even get any words in Ed White.
He just was all over the place and changing your words and trying to get you agreeing.
You're like, oh we agree.
You're like, no we don't.
It was It's like talking to a dispensationalist.
Like, what's going around now?
You know, the Ten Commandments and the Sabbath.
Oh, I've had these debates.
And you can't...
It's like hitting your own head over and over against the wall.
They twist the words.
They just twist everything.
Unfortunately, poor Jim, he wasn't even twisting the words.
He just had it wrong.
He did that several times and that's what they do.
They'll change the subject and they love it because they push you.
It's a narcissistic personality.
They push you and push you until you lose it.
So, it's, you know, you did really good because I would have lost it.
Oh, thank you.
Way before you.
Yeah.
But anyway.
Alright, that's all I had to say.
Well, thank you so much.
What's your name?
My name is Catherine.
Catherine?
Yeah.
Oh, nice to meet you.
I know, you know, voice to voice there.
Good to meet you too, Dan.
Oh, thank you.
Keep up the good work.
God bless.
God bless you.
Bye.
Okay, 601 number.
I'll call you.
So if you guys call, if I reject the call, just don't call back.
back.
I'll call you back.
Hello?
Hi, this is Dan.
You're on the air.
What's your name?
Oh, this is Craig.
Hey, Craig.
What's up, brother?
Hey, how you doing?
Oh, pretty good.
Yeah.
Yeah, I just called in.
I just wanted to Read a few verses from Deuteronomy 6, 4 through 9. It's the hero Israel.
Go ahead and read it if you want me to.
Okay.
Hero Israel, the Lord our God is one, Lord, and thou shalt Love the Lord thy God with all thine heart and with all thy soul and with all thy might and these words which I command thee this day shall be in thine heart and thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children
and shall talk of them when thou sittest In thine house, and when thou walkest by thy way, and when thou liest down, and when thou rises up,
and thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shalt be as frontlets between thine eyes, and thou shalt write them, shalt write them upon the post of thy house, And on thy gates.
Yeah, I just felt led to read the Shammah Israel or Hero Israel.
Yeah, I thought you were very fair to the guest and I commend you for that.
Oh, thank you.
And, yeah, that's about all I had.
I don't want to take up any more time.
I want to give someone else a chance to call.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you so much.
It's just amazing.
And I think that's what the Lord talks about in the end times that people have a strong delusion and whatnot.
There you go.
It's a good demonstration of that.
Yeah.
Well, uh, you have a happy Shabbat.
You too, brother.
Shalom.
Shalom, brother.
Alright.
Shalom.
Yeah, perfect example of that.
So, uh, who's next?
3, 3, 4.
Say it, Brian.
Uh, we're the only show that calls you back.
I miss having Brian on here.
Hello?
Hey, this is Dan.
You're on the air.
What's your name?
Hello?
Hello.
This is Dan.
You're on the air.
What's your name?
Seven minutes of freedom.
Hey, what's up, brother?
Man, just walking to the store.
Lorraine slacked up.
How are y'all tonight?
Oh, pretty good.
How's your...
Yeah, it's pretty good.
Thank you.
I enjoyed the show, man, even though I don't like debates, but...
Yeah.
You had him there, man.
He just didn't want to hear it.
Yeah.
Well, last week when I called in, I was talking about worrying about getting through Memphis.
Well, I'm 500 feet out of West Memphis, so I made it.
Oh, nice.
Yeah, and...
There's a guy talking about he didn't have any talent afterwards.
Man, I didn't have these talents.
I just started telling people Jesus loved them everywhere I went.
And then it led to one thing to another.
You know?
I mean, this has been one amazing experience, y'all.
Everywhere I go, it's like Jesus has made a place for me.
And it's just amazing.
We need more people out here.
You know?
That's awesome, brother.
How many miles did you go?
I've got 260 out of 689 or 87 or something like that.
I got 260 left.
Wow.
God bless you, man.
Man, it's been amazing, dude.
I mean, it's not easy.
I ain't gonna try to say it's easy.
Because I'm old.
I mean, Jesus is...
I got about 8 miles in, man.
And Jesus picked me up.
It's been...
Amazing ever since.
Oh, wow.
I truly don't feel like I'm doing nothing but carrying a backpack, man.
Because I brought my dog with me, and he brings people right to me.
I mean, they love him.
They come straight and want to talk to, you know, see about my dog, and then I tell them our story and tell them what it's about, and the Holy Spirit takes over, really.
So all I'm doing is really carrying a backpack.
My dog does as much work as me.
Yeah, God bless you, man.
That's awesome.
Yeah, I mean, people are worried about what you've got to say.
That's not what you need to be worried about.
You just be worried about being willing to speak.
The Holy Spirit, if it's with you, it'll take over.
That's not just some lukewarm saying.
That's a promise.
And I'm going to walk in testimony to that.
Amen.
That He will put the words in your mouth.
You just got to be willing to get out there and speak.
Yep.
You know what I mean?
That's the same thing today, brother.
I was on my way to the studio here, and I'm like, how am I going to present this and all that?
And all day, it's like, how am I going to do this?
And I'm like, you know what?
I actually got a whole paper there.
I took notes and everything else, and I was going to read, but I'm like on the way there.
It's like, you know what?
I'm not going to debate nobody.
The Holy Spirit's going to do it.
And I asked the Holy Spirit to speak to me and all that and just guide me.
And he most certainly did because everything the guy was saying, I knew how to counter.
It wasn't me.
It was the Holy Spirit giving me that information on how to counter what exactly we're saying.
Man, I think you've done an excellent job.
Oh, thank you.
I don't see where he was confused because it's plain and simple.
It's a size comparison.
Yeah.
That's all it is.
Words do have meaning, yeah, but like you said, I mean, he could have used any word.
It doesn't matter.
It's just a size comparison.
Yeah.
So yeah, it had meaning.
He was describing themselves as locusts in the sight of the Giants, and the Giants seen them as locusts, plain and simple.
Yeah.
But they weren't looking like it.
I mean, where in Scripture does it say we look like locusts?
Nowhere.
We're made in the image of Yahuwah.
Yep.
We're made in His image.
And that's another contradiction.
I mean, was the guy confused?
Did he look like locusts?
Or did he look like...
Lizards?
Yeah.
I don't get what he was saying.
And right there, you just shot on my head because you brought something up there that he contradicted himself with this.
Because he admitted we looked like the image of God, right?
But he said that God was a lizard.
So are we lizards?
Sorry about the time.
So he was saying that we were in the image of God, right?
But then later he said God's a reptilian or whatever, right?
A lizard.
We're reptilian.
We're not lizards.
So how are we in the image of God?
So it's a big contradiction he made on his own.
Yeah, I mean, he's too busy all the time to worry about the wrong things.
I agree with what you said.
He needs the Holy Spirit, man.
Yeah.
If I would have stuck with just listening to man, I'd be...
Everywhere.
You know?
When I try to take everything to the Holy Spirit, it does a very good job of guiding me into the truth.
Amen.
I agree 100%, man.
I just really wanted to call in, man, to make sure people know that I ain't special.
Hell, not at all.
I trust in the Holy Spirit to guide me everywhere I go.
It's like, I was listening to...
To the Holy Spirit, it says turn right for her.
My dog will want to go that way, and I'll go that way with him, just to see.
And it usually ends up for my benefit.
Like, I'll give you one example.
Today I needed a machete, a machete that I found laying on the sides of the road.
I mean, brand new, a brand new machete found on the side of the road.
That's unheard of.
Yeah.
But I needed it that night.
I didn't even know I needed it.
I just picked it up and was glad to have it.
That night, I needed it.
I went to a small town in Mississippi.
Well, the Lord provides.
He prepared me.
He prepared every step of the way.
He prepared for us if we're willing to follow him.
Amen.
That's all I want people to know, man.
Yeah, amen to that.
I love you so, Dan.
Love you too, brother.
I love you, man.
Y'all have a blessed night.
Y'all are horrible forever and ever.
God bless you.
The train in the background is funny.
Yeah, I'm going to get out of here because it's so loud.
Alright, God bless you.
God be with you on your journey, man.
Man, he is.
He's carrying me every step of the way.
I have no worries.
Amen, brother.
Later, brother.
Bye.
That's epic with the train in the background.
But yeah, he's right.
The Holy Spirit is amazing.
And without the Holy Spirit, I'd be like mumbling, you know what I mean?
And it's crazy, man.
And yeah, he was right too.
The Lord does provide.
It's amazing.
And sometimes, too, I get worked up here, too.
I'm not going to lie.
When the month comes and I'm short on money for the bills in the studio and everything, and I'm like, ugh.
Sometimes that happens.
Sometimes the Lord blesses me right away.
I'm biting my nails, and all of a sudden somebody donates or whatever to get the money to pay the rent.
And it's like God looks at me.
Oh, why do you keep doubting, Dan?
Yeah.
I told you I'm going to provide for you.
He does every time, every month.
It's amazing.
It's like always trusting the Lord.
I think it's just human nature that we hereditary worry about stuff and we shouldn't be worrying.
Leave it all to God and He'll take care of you.
Look at Brother Seven Minutes of Freedom providing everything you're saying on the way on his journey.
That's amazing.
The apostles did that too when Jesus told them Don't take no provisions.
Just go.
And people provided.
God used those people to provide for them.
You know, it's pretty cool.
So 641. Call you here.
641. Hi, this is Dan.
You're on the air with your name?
Uh-oh.
Hello?
Hello?
Hey.
How you doing, brother?
I'm doing good.
How you doing?
Pretty good.
What's your name?
Oh, this is Troy.
Hey, what's up, Troy?
Oh, not much, man.
Am I live right now?
Yep.
You're live, live, live.
Oh, man.
All right.
Well, I'm not going to speak about politics, but I do want to call attention to the possibilities of a harlot.
A what?
That could be a harlot.
Oh, okay.
Spoken about in Revelations, I believe.
Possibly riding in on the back of a beast.
So, I think the beast, when we get back in Roman times, I think that was the beast with the iron teeth, correct?
And that was a war machine.
Are you there?
Yep.
I'm listening.
Okay.
Okay.
Alright, so just hear me out real quick.
Sure.
So we're talking about this harlot that could be possibly riding on the back of the beast right now.
And the beast could be like propaganda.
It could be media.
It could be...
I mean, it's a new beast, right?
I don't know.
It might be...
I gotta read into this.
But I was hoping that maybe you or Brian or even John or somebody could get into that maybe and discuss that in a future program.
I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think they did one on the Midnight Ride not too long ago.
If you go back, you know, with the Midnight Rides, I don't think they got them in the playlist or not.
I'm more sure that John and David talked about that.
I think it was maybe a couple months ago, because I remember something about the Beast.
So if you go back, yeah, they did talk about the show on that.
All right, all right, well...
Yeah, no, that's the only thing that's been weighing on my heart.
I mean, like, I see it every day.
I'm like, I think that that's a real possibility.
I got to get in my scripture a little more and dig into it a little deeper, you know, to really, you know, know for sure.
But like I said, it's just been weighing on my heart.
So I just wanted to bring that up tonight.
That's all.
Oh, thank you, brother.
All right.
Check it out, man.
I definitely enjoyed you shutting that guy down today.
Man, that was enjoyable.
Shut him down before he even began.
Yeah.
And the thing is, I gave him a fair chance, so I let him talk, didn't even interrupt him once, except for I asked him what he meant by one thing.
But other than that, let him say what he had to say, then it was my turn.
He wouldn't even let me speak.
Yeah, yeah, I know.
I know.
I was probably one of the ones in chat just Going off, telling you to kick him out, kick him out.
Yeah.
Anyway, sorry about that.
Y'all have a good night, and God bless.
You too, brother.
God bless you.
So yes, look at some comments here.
Yeah, Harold and...
Who else is here?
Harold and...
I don't know if Valerie's here.
Harold and Brian, thank you guys for moderating the chat.
No, Bill too.
Brother Bill, thank you for moderating the chat earlier.
And I don't know if you're still on.
But yeah, thank you guys for taking time out of your busy schedule.
Especially you, Brian.
I don't know how you do it, man.
You produce all these shows for David.
And I want to also mirror what David said too on the show earlier, the Friday Night Live on FOJC Radio.
Yeah, Brother Brian, man.
A lot of people don't understand how much work Brian does for the ministry.
You know what I mean?
And when he was co-hosting here, yeah, the intro came from him.
A lot of the trailers we had came from him.
He actually helped me design all this too.
You know, they gave me him and John Hall with the whole OBS stuff and everything else.
But Brian, man, he...
Yeah, I know some people wrongfully bash him because he's got glasses that he needs to see, and I'm going to need him too soon because, to be honest, these screens, man, they're really doing a number on my eyes.
At work, I use a computer.
At home, doing this stuff, and it's always around the computer.
My eyes are getting real bad, too.
Everything's blurry.
You have to use these weird glasses, you know what I mean?
The stuff that Brian does, man, it's just outstanding.
The technical work does.
Then out of all that, he's going to spend time with his family and do his own shows.
Which are freaking awesome.
You know what I mean?
I love Brian's shows and the information he brings to the table.
And just everything he does for the ministry.
You know what I mean?
He's like the heartbeat of all of us right now.
You know what I mean?
He's like...
All the technical stuff he does for us and everything else.
And mainly FOJC Radio.
God bless him, man.
And it's like...
I can't say enough about Brian.
I do miss him on the show here.
It's like...
I always look forward to coming on the show.
Me and Brian laughing about things.
And it was funny too because...
We talked, you know, obviously we're on video conference before the show even started.
So one of us will say something to get each other laughing.
We're trying to stop laughing before the show started.
You know what I mean?
We always bring up something silly or something like that, you know.
It's pretty cool.
And when we met Brian, if you don't know any better, John Hall introduced me to Brian.
So Brian was new to the whole business, the show stuff, I should say.
And so John Hall was like, What are we going to do on Brian?
I'm like, I think he's got good potential.
I really do.
He's very smart with the stuff.
And John's like, we could do one and do things.
We could have coached Mark who would just throw him in the ocean and he's going to sink or swim.
And I'm like, I think that's the best way.
Throw him in the ocean and see what he does.
You know what I mean?
And Brian, now he's a champion swimmer.
You know what I mean?
So it's good stuff.
A lot of good things to say about Brian.
Brian, where's Brian?
He's in the chat.
He's visual disturbance.
So he's in the chat room there.
I can't say enough about Brian.
All the stuff he does for the ministry.
It's amazing.
And then have time to do his own shows.
Spend time with his family.
All that good stuff.
Next Friday, guys, we've got a special surprise for you.
It's David Carrico.
He's coming on our show right here on Spiritual Warfare Friday.
Which, by the way, I started ranting about things here.
If you haven't signed up already, guys, go to FOJCRadio.com I got a hard time pronouncing the J. You know, I can say J, but when I say F-O-J-C, it comes out like a G almost.
But yeah, F-O-J-C Radio.
Alright, so if you go there,.com.
Right there, Special Events.
Click on that.
And it's going to bring you over here.
We're doing our special events.
A registration.
It's the Throne Room Prayer.
And it's like basically we're taking...
It's called the Choose This Day.
Wednesday, October 23rd.
So we're going to do a whole project.
Me, Jillian Stone, and Brian, David Carrico, and I think John Pounds might be on there too.
But we're basically taking a huge stand against the pagan holidays.
And honoring the biblical holidays.
So, yeah, this is going to be pretty cool.
So, if you haven't signed up and if you want your name right on the air, don't whatever case, but if you want to sign up, put your name and where you're from.
You don't have to put your address, but, you know, your city, whatever, and your email address.
And if you want your location right on the air, yes or no, you know what I mean?
So, you can just say your name, whatever.
But it just, basically, the point of this is, you're signing your name, yeah, well, you know, Put your name here.
And David, one of us will read it off on your name.
And to acknowledge that you stand for the biblical holidays.
You stand for the biblical feasts.
And you stand against these pagan holidays.
You know what I mean?
And at the beginning of the show, we talked about some certain people that started some controversy lately.
These same people...
Alright, they completely went against the whole doctrine.
They think Sunday is the Lord's Day now.
They think these Christmas and unbiblical holidays are good to celebrate.
You know what I mean?
And they're not.
You know what I mean?
And if you do, I'm not going to say I judge you at all.
You know, that's your prerogative if you want to do that.
But you know our stance on it, which is the biblical stance.
You know what I mean?
And like David says, I'm going to marry again what David said.
Our doctrine is, you know what I mean, plain and simple.
We believe in biblical cosmology like the Bible says.
We believe in keeping the commandments like Jesus tells us in Revelation and many other times in the New Testament.
Keeping the Ten Commandments.
We believe in the doctrine of Jesus Christ, plain and simple.
We definitely stand up against dispensationalism.
We don't believe in no pre-tribulation garbage or anything like that.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, so...
Yeah, if you go to FOJC Radio, click on Special Events right there.
And it'll take you to this page and sign up and put your name on the list to say, hey, you know, I stand against these things.
And this is why, because if you know what's going on, a lot of us have been getting attacked.
And the craziest thing, I mean, I don't even want to discuss it because it's disgusting.
Like, the craziest thing happened to me.
Same day that they got attacked.
It was crazy.
I'm not saying the same people did this.
Last year...
What happened was me, Brian, and David, and John got attacked at the same day.
Different ways of attacking us.
And they weren't the same people either.
And this year, like almost to the year almost, the same thing happened to us the other day.
I called Brian to tell him what was going on.
He told me what happened with him.
And David was like, what the heck's going on?
And it shows you one thing, that we're doing our job.
If the enemy is to come out and attack us like this, it shows you one thing, that we're doing our job.
And it's always about this time of year because we come out heavy against these satanic feasts, these pagan feasts.
We do concert shows on exposing Halloween, Easter, Christmas, Good Friday, all these garbage holidays that are not biblical.
Nothing to do with Jesus, you know what I mean?
And we get massively attacked this time of year.
And it's nuts, man.
It really is.
And we get attacked different ways, though.
And I didn't want to say, yeah, I don't even know how to present it.
Just say it's perverted, right?
I'm going to leave it at that.
Somebody took my face, they call me on Facebook Messenger, say it's important, right?
And I get calls all the time on Facebook Messenger.
They say it was important, picked it up.
I'm like, look in the camera, hello, hello.
They're not answering.
I don't see nothing.
And I'm like, turn the speaker on, try to direct them, whatever.
I hung up and called back again.
And I'm like, the hell's going on?
You know what I mean?
And I'm looking at the name later.
I'm like, who the heck is this?
Go on that profile.
It's like really nobody.
Then I think it was like the next day later, I got...
Very disgusting, right?
So, what they did is they took recent pictures of me off my profile.
And they made this video.
And it's four quarters of the video, let's just say, right?
They put three pictures of me on the video.
Recent pictures.
Then they put this fat guy...
I don't even know how to say this clean, right?
So, they put this fat guy...
A video of a fat guy masturbating.
We'll leave it at that, right?
And they merged my face onto that.
The same name.
So they used some kind of AI tool, whatever the heck they did.
And I'm looking at this like, what the heck is this?
And right on there says, oh, you know, I'm going to send this out to everybody, all your friends and family, ruin your life if you don't pay me $100.
And it says that, in the picture too, it says, this man raped a seven-year-old girl to death.
Hello, if I raped a seven-year-old girl to death, why would I be here?
And I'm like, are you serious, dude?
Anybody that knows me clearly could tell that's not me.
Oh, if you don't pay us $100, we're going to send...
Oh, you know, I told him right now, do what you're going to do.
I'm not paying you, Jack.
Plain and simple.
It's so dumb.
It's like...
Why are you going to do that?
Other friends told me that they got extorted with things like that too.
It is awful.
You're right, M. Saint.
At the same time, you're going to laugh, but it's not funny because it's nasty.
It really is.
It's this guy doing his thing.
That is weird, man.
It's like...
I had to double look at it because it's a quarter of a video.
I had to blow it up to really look at it.
And yeah, it's definitely not me.
Definitely not.
You know what I mean?
And so I'm like, yeah, you know what?
You do what you got to do.
Send it to whoever you want because I'm not paying you jack crap.
And I didn't.
You know what I mean?
And it's been a few days later.
And as far as I know, nobody's gotten any messages with that stuff.
So if you do get a message, whatever the case, yeah, tell them to go take a hike.
You know what I mean?
Plain and simple.
And the thing is, what are they going to accomplish with this?
And they'll come up with stuff like this, too, to try to derail your ministry, especially sexual stuff, you know what I mean?
And to say, oh, look at that guy, he's a pervert, you know what I mean?
He ripped a seven-year-old.
What are you talking about?
Why would I be here for him?
Makes no sense at all.
You know what I mean?
You got attacked.
You heard David today.
If you didn't miss the Friday night show, David told you what happened to him.
And Brian, things happen to him.
That's his business as hell, whatever the case.
But just say it's funny.
It's funny, but it's not.
Because they go through these stupid extents.
To try to derail the operation.
And now you got Tracy out there.
Why would you wait a whole year to come out against David Carco?
Why?
What's the point?
You have potted on from the ministry.
Good for you.
See you later.
Leave it at that.
By the whole year, there's an agenda behind that.
That's why.
And I know some of you, a lot of people in this chat room now, do watch Chase.
Now, I'm not telling you what to do.
I'm not, you know, going to bash the woman or anything like that, but there's an agenda behind that.
You know what I mean?
And I'm going to tell you right now, I firmly stand with David Carrico, John Pounders, Brian Reese, and then Ministries.
I firmly stand with them.
You know what I mean?
They stand with me.
We're a cohesive team, and I love it.
You know what I mean?
Ever since we reconstructed Ministries, and it's been great.
It's grown and everything else.
And I'm not trying to pass ill will to...
If you listen to Tracy, guys, I'm not going to disown you or anything like that.
You know what I mean?
But she did admit in her videos that she believes that the Lord's Day is Sunday now.
Went total dispensationalism.
And mentioned that the holidays, because she heard Pastor Dean Odle, which he made a big video trying to justify the holidays.
It's okay to have Christmas.
It's okay to do this and all that.
The Bible says it's not...
The Bible says it's not, and that's not okay, you know what I mean?
So, and this is the last time you're going to hear me mention her and that stuff, unless something new happens.
But I don't like to spread gossip either, and I know David doesn't like to spread gossip.
And we just had to clear ourselves, you know, just telling mainly that FOJC Radio and ICTV, or me or any brand, were not 501c3.
And real quick too, how...
This is how it works in the state.
So basically, if you want a non-profit organization or a company, I had one when I did the ghost hunting years ago.
So we went down to the Secretary of State's building, which is a state thing.
We filed for it.
We got it.
So they gave us an official charter that we were a legit entity.
At the time, VR Paranormal stood for Valley Force Paranormal.
We were a legit, on-record non-profit and helped us with the police departments.
They gave us places to go.
We got authorization to go places and nobody can't and all that.
Anyway, we used more of a clout to do that.
So we heard about the tax-exempt stuff, how we could get donations at the time.
And yeah, at the time, like...
My brother was like, yeah, we should file for that tax thing.
And we went down there and they said, well, to do that, you have to go through the IRS. That's a government system.
So the nonprofit is a state level.
And to get tax exempt, 501c3 they call it, you have to apply it with the IRS, with the government.
So that's how that operates.
So what I'm trying to say is, just because somebody is a nonprofit, it doesn't mean that 501c3.
So she brings up on the, you know, she brought up to the Secretary of State's website, oh look, they're a non-profit.
Automatically assuming in that Nice TV's LLC. This is all public racket.
We all know that.
So automatically assuming that they're a 5-1-C-3.
No, that's not how it works.
You've got to apply for it with the government.
It's a different entity, you know what I mean?
So, that's how that stuff works and that's why I'm bringing it up for and just to clarify things.
And no, none of us with 5123 and don't plan on doing it either.
Because 5123 is, yeah, they start getting to your business.
904, you're on the air.
What's your name?
Hey, can you hear me?
Yep.
How you doing?
It's Anne-Marie.
Anne-Marie, what's up, sister?
Yay!
We're in the storm.
I'm so happy to hear from you.
So you can hear me alright?
Yep.
Okay.
I just want to make sure we're going through this storm.
I want to make a couple comments.
I thought you handled it great with this guy tonight.
That's what it's called, and this is the patient of the saints.
And every time...
That he cannot complete, and I'm not going to be ugly, I'm going to state facts.
We all watched that he couldn't complete a sentence.
And when he said God was a lizard, I about came out of the bed.
I was like, what?
So, I was like, yeah, you're an agent of the devil.
We need to pray for you.
Because that's the spirit of Antichrist right there.
And, um...
He's just either heavily misled and not born again and trying and hung up on verbiages and word searches and word meanings.
It sounds like all, but that's important because anybody with half a brain cell, and I'm not trying to be mean, I'm trying to be funny, sarcastic, can know that when Joshua and Caleb That said, oh wow, we're like grasshoppers in their sight.
They're so big.
Well, we can take them.
Yeah, we can take them.
You know, let's go take them.
Let the other cowards go their way.
We'll take them.
And they did.
So, I thought you did a great, great job.
Thank you.
I'm glad you understood that too.
I just couldn't understand how much more simple I could have made it to them.
It's an analogy.
It's like Two brothers talking.
Wow.
And it was the unbelieving, scared other ones, the soldiers that said, we're like grasshoppers in their sight.
And they retreated, if you read it in content and context.
It makes sense.
They retreated.
Like, oh crap, we're scared.
We're like grasshoppers in their sight.
Hmm.
And Caleb and I think it was Joshua went up or Jonathan went up to look and go, well, we can take them.
The Lord is on our side.
How can we fail?
We can fail.
And they went and took care of it.
But this gentleman, I'll be nice, he did not want to hear a single word that you said was interesting.
That's how it is.
He kept coming off.
It's like, let me read it.
He wouldn't let me read it.
No, he wouldn't give you an opportunity.
And not only that, and I kept saying, it's Dan's show that belongs to the Lord and you've dedicated it to the Lord.
We all know that.
And it's not your show, but when your mic went moot, he didn't know how to carry...
A sentence.
Yeah.
And then he came off with a comment, God love his heart.
It's kind of tragic, really.
He came off with a comment, well, I think everybody agrees with me and they believe with what I've said.
Well, you didn't make a coherent sentence.
I worked in law for a long time and my minor was an English major.
You could not carry out a cohesive sentence.
Scripture, references, or stay on top of you have no business being behind a microphone whatsoever.
You're just leading to division and confusion for maybe a babe in Christ, and that's very dangerous.
Very dangerous.
So I'm glad that you, I'm like, okay.
Dan's rubbing his face.
He's actually in the ring right now.
He's gonna pop him.
When your mic came back on, it was awesome.
It was like, let me show you what I'm gonna do.
I'm in the ring, and I'm about to bounce off, you know, bounce off, sorry, bounce off these bars.
Bounce off these bars.
I'm about to bounce off these bars and, you know, do a down on you.
It was so funny because When you kept saying no, I said, let your yes be yes and your no be no in the chat.
You were like, no, I'm not going there.
No, I'm not going there.
He got so fresh.
And then he started laughing.
I don't know whether you caught it or not, but he blacked the Lord's name twice.
He said GD. And I'm like, Dan, I didn't even hear that.
No, I think you shouldn't have heard it.
Yeah, if I would have heard that, I mean, I think I would have weighed into them because that's one thing.
I believe in freedom of speech, but that's why I blocked it, I think, in the chat.
Unfortunately, I had to type those words, so it blocks it.
Hopefully, it does anyway.
But I believe in freedom of speech, but when somebody curses, they'll use the Lord's name in vain.
That pees me off like, no, tomorrow.
Yeah, that's the line in the sand.
You drew your line in the sand, buddy.
I didn't even hear that.
If I would have heard that, like, well, man.
Twice.
And he laughed about it.
He smirked and he laughed about it.
Oh, man.
So, I was like, don't ever have it back on your show.
I just put a quote out.
He is the spirit of antichrist on him.
He's a son of the devil.
We need to pray for him and just, you know, stop this.
And I went, this needs to be stopped.
Yeah.
But yeah, he did.
It was really sad.
And also, I want to thank you for your short today.
I watched it about the lady, the lass.
I'll call her the little lassie.
Oh, yeah.
She needed to go home.
Lassie, go home.
If you catch my drift.
Lassie, go home.
Go in the corner.
You've been a bad little girl.
But you handle that really well as well.
And I tested her too.
So if you watched, I was in the chat line.
And when she mentioned, because I was in law for a long time, corporate and litigation.
When she mentioned an NDA, I used the legal term.
Am I allowed to say it?
Yeah.
When she mentioned an NDA, because most people don't know what it is, unless you've been in law or around law.
Non-disclosure agreement.
It's a non-disclosure agreement, and it's actually a gag order that is put on you.
And she mentioned she was a volunteer for three years.
Yeah.
You can't put a gag order.
It has to be done by an attorney.
It has to be done by all parties.
You have to be in an agreement and you have to have a legal attorney there with you to witness it, notaries, and it's a big to-do.
And then she said that nothing came of it.
That right there, I tested her online.
That right there.
And she jumped on that verbiage gag order.
Yes, and she mentioned my name.
Yes, Ann Marie.
It was a gag order.
And I said, and?
Oh, well, nothing came of it.
Right then and there, I knew.
Because if something had come of that, ladies and gentlemen, hear me out.
If you have a friend that's struggling, hear us out.
You can go on public records, free public records to your city, to your councilmen, And even online in the judicial area.
And you can find that.
It's free public information.
That did not happen.
And that right there let me know that there were porkies going on.
Big time.
And it's really sad.
It's really sad.
It's really sad.
So, hurt puppies, you can be hurt, but you can't slander.
And you can't do the things that you did.
It's unnecessary.
And it's uncalled for, but way to go tonight.
Oh, thank you.
It was like you were in the ring.
It was very entertaining.
You kept hitting him with exact scripture.
And I was posting scripture, too.
Yeah.
But you weren't looking at the chat.
You were dealing with this person, you know.
And how many times did he misquote it?
And he's like, oh, it says right there, we look like locusts.
It's like, no, it doesn't.
It's a size comparison.
What are you talking about, you know?
It's...
Yeah, because he would take a word.
He would misrepresent the word because a grasshopper is green.
Locusts are not green.
Grasshoppers hop and they can fly sometimes.
Locusts, you know, they're in the ground for quite a while and they're only alive for 21 days.
They're very different animals.
They're basically cicadas.
And so they're different kind of, and even a cicada is a different kind of locust.
So it wasn't making any sense whatsoever.
And I pray that he's repentant and embarrassed.
He should be embarrassed above all things.
I want to commend you on...
Oh, thank you.
...way to go for patience, the saints, because you were just scripture, bam, bam, bam.
It was hard, trust me, but I'm like, I mean, I say to myself, just let him talk, and I want to hear what he has to say, and catch him in...
That's the other reason why I waited a while, too.
I wanted to catch him in contradictory terms, which he contradicted himself so many times that he couldn't even put...
He misquoted verses left and right, and I'm like, dude...
And same scenario with Little Lassie.
Same scenario.
And that's how you catch people.
Yep.
You have to be gentle as a dove and wise as a serpent.
And so this is a great example.
Sorry for him.
And we just need to pray for his true salvation.
Yeah.
And words do change.
The dominion of the word and every word out there.
The dominion.
The time, the place, the error, they do change.
They change all the time.
Like one of my friends, every time he sees me, he'll say, hey, what up, dog?
You know, what's up, dog?
Not that I'm an actual dog, it's just in the nature of the context, which is the conversation is like, you know, a friend.
For that, you know, short context, that's like a brother or something, not an actual animal, you know what I mean?
Right, what up, dog?
What's up?
What's happening?
Just like when you said, oh, I can't wait to go to the Golden...
Instead of the Golden Corral, you went to the Golden Buffet.
Yeah.
And get a hold of that buffet.
I'm going to tear it up.
I started laughing.
It's not the Golden Buffet.
It's the Golden Corral.
But you guys are all of you.
Brian, you, John Pounders, John Hall, David Kirko.
After I spoke with you, I spoke with just the nicest gentlemen.
Out there, Patricia, sweet as she can be.
Genuine, sincere, heartfelt.
You're doing the Father's work, and that's what matters.
Amen.
At the end of the day, our job is to emulate Messiah, preach the gospel.
Just like Seven Minutes to Heaven said, preach the gospel.
Or Troy said also, preach the gospel.
And Catherine, way to go.
Call in anytime you want.
And we love hearing from you guys.
Because Dan does nothing but preach the gospel of Jesus Christ and the doctrine of Christ.
And so we stand up for our brothers and sisters and we call those that are false out.
And it's just real simple.
Just like Jesus did.
You fox you.
Get out of here.
Yep.
So, let's go, dog.
Say that, dog.
We're going to throw some heaters, dog.
It'll be dog hat.
It's almost that time of year, unfortunately, that the heaters are going to come out.
Oh, man.
It was 46 this morning.
Oh, it was beautiful.
And then it rained.
It's when the snow comes in the...
We'll throw heaters in the snow.
I told you in the chat, throw a heater at them.
We'll call him Jimmy Cricket because he doesn't make any sense.
Jimmy Cricket because you don't make any sense, buddy.
Crickets don't talk.
They chirp.
Oh, wait, wait.
The Hebrew name for cricket is Bubba.
And let me tell you what Septuagint tells you about what a cricket is.
Oh, it says Jimmy Bias.
Did you know they used to be red, not green?
Yeah.
That's funny.
Yeah.
You can really just be around for hours about this.
Yeah.
Wait, wait.
No, no, no.
Hey, if you just do me a favor or make me so happy, no.
I thought that was awesome.
I'm like, get him, Dan.
Yeah.
My husband was like...
Yeah, because exactly.
That was his only gateway out of that conversation with the size comparison.
It's just trying to say, go me into that argument that if God was a lizard or something.
And I know she tried to go me into that to get me heated up to argue about him with God being a lizard and completely derail the conversation before.
I'm like, nope.
Then I let him have that.
He's like, alright, go ahead and explain it.
And I said, that has nothing to do with what we're talking about.
Back to the point again.
And he kept trying to divert off that.
And I'm like, no, it's a size comparison.
That's it.
Plain and simple.
Yeah, and if you don't watch out, you're going to be talking to that lizard mano-a-mano on that Judgment Day, and you're going to be hearing nothing but crickets.
So, yeah, and I told them you contradicted yourself.
It's like you said we're creating an image of the Lord, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, we are.
It's like, all right, if God's a lizard, then wouldn't we be lizards too?
Right, and let's not forget about them locusts with a face like a man and a man like a lion.
And those cats, like scorpions, you're going to be talking to some locusts for five months.
Don't sting me, I want to die.
Nope, you're not going to die.
I'm the scorpion with a face like a man.
You're not going to die.
I'm going to sting your butt again.
No, I hope that doesn't happen, but...
Hey, if you want to talk about lizards and scorpions, let's go for it.
Here's the floor.
He didn't even know that scripture.
I was like, are you serious?
So I thought it was really funny.
I have a weird mind.
I kept going, why is he talking about locusts like this?
Yeah.
It's just funny.
He should be a comedian.
Yeah, just change the whole verse.
He changed the verse around and out of context, you know.
Yeah, and now that's dangerous.
The Lord God is not pleased.
Elohim, the real one, Jesus Christ, he's not pleased with that at all.
No, no.
So, anyways, and it was interesting that he didn't have one Bible scripture.
He didn't read from the Bible at all.
It was just...
You know, I study words.
Well, that's great.
And the limited verses...
Sorry, I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
No, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry I got you.
Well, I said the limited verses you did give was completely out of context.
Mm-hmm.
And you kept referring that.
You teach that in every single one of your lessons every day.
Yep.
That I watch.
Every day.
Read it for yourself.
Content and context.
Yep.
Ask the Holy Spirit for guidance.
Mm-hmm.
And leading.
And we could all tell, unfortunately.
And, you know, have mercy for this guy, you guys.
And we can laugh and joke about how ridiculously infantile, immature, and I'm just going to say, he was rude.
He was very rude and very disrespectful.
But if he wants a platform, you know, go be a comedian because you don't know the scripture.
And if you don't know the scripture, you don't know the Father.
Because, you know, that's living water that's inside of us.
It's the Word of God.
And if you don't know that, then you're malnourished physically.
And you're spiritually anorexic.
You really are.
You have no living water in you.
You have no food in you.
You have no substance to you.
The Word of God is...
You know, the life is in the blood, and deliverance is in the blood, and, you know, pray for Him.
Have pity for Him, and pray for Him that the Father vindicates us, you, and, you know, if you don't mind, I'll just pray for Him right now.
Yeah, let's do that.
So, Father God, we just come to you tonight as a collective, as the body of Christ, As the Ekklesia, Lord, and we just lift up this person, Jim.
Lord, we can see that he does not know you.
We have witnessed the absolute debauchery of the Word of God and the disinformation, the misinformation, and the ridiculousness Of what happened tonight.
However, we do thank you, Father, that Dan was able to get on track, to stay on track, to continue on track, and to drive that meal completely home with your perfect Word of God.
We ask, Lord, that you deal with Jim in your holiness and in your way, and that you send other men of God To get him out of the ditch that he is in, Father.
Because he is in a ditch.
And that ditch is going to lead to hell and then to the lake of fire.
And we don't want that for anybody.
Your word says, I will leave the 99 and go after the one.
And Father, please go after him.
Please remove anyone in his life quickly, swiftly, and rapidly that is misleading him.
in any way that he could be even in a cult sent as a troll or sent somebody from the opposite side to just cause division strife and waste time Lord and we just ask Lord that you redeem the times we lay him at the foot of the cross and we ask that you deal with them and your mightiness and continue to give us the fear of the living God and to keep us humble to Show
us the longsuffering that we are to strive with mankind.
And when we do, there comes a point that we need to put an end to it.
But Father, we just ask that you bless Dan Bedondi for sharing with Jim tonight and for continuing to do all the hard work just like Brian is doing, John Pounders is doing, FOJC Underground, David, Donna, Carrico.
John and Patricia Hall.
Father God, just bless all of our family and deal with those that have spoken one ill, idle word.
Your word says you're going to give an account for every idle word that comes out of your mouth.
And Father, forgive us for when we do that and cleanse us.
Purge our lips with this up and give our lips the taste of honey.
And help us to remember that we serve a mighty Lord God with thunderings and lightnings and that you are a ferocious God and you are also gentle and kind and you are the Rose of Sharon.
Be with those that are suffering now.
Be with those that are under attack.
Be with those that are ill and continuing to heal for myself.
I ask for continued healing.
And I ask, Lord, that you just allow the FOJC and the Now You See TV family to grow abundantly.
And we ask for a mighty harvest with everyone doing our job, preaching the gospel, rebuking those that are wrong, and walking in love and forgiveness every single day of our life.
And Father, we thank you that tomorrow is Shabbat.
Today is Shabbat Shalom.
And we just thank you, Lord, that you are the Lord of the Shabbat.
And you're the Lord of the Sabbath.
And we just give you praise for the joy of the Lord is our strength.
In Jesus' name we pray.
Amen and Allah.
Amen to that.
Thank you so much.
Okay, love you.
Love you too, sister.
Okay, talk to you later.
Yep, thank you.
I'm glad she brought that up.
It's crazy how she just brought up the Sabbath and being the Lord of the Sabbath.
Because I was going to bring this up too.
I just wanted to talk about that real quick.
Because I mentioned that Sunday is the Lord's Day.
So where does it come from?
Sunday is the Lord's Day.
That came from the Catholic Church.
Them saying that Sunday is a large day.
So they changed the commandment.
Number one, the Sabbath day is the fourth commandment in the Bible.
And the Catholic Church's version of the Ten Commandments, they removed the second one, the idol tree.
They completely removed it.
Moved the rest of them down and made the fourth commandment the third commandment.
And they changed the Sabbath to the Lord's Day.
And on a Sunday, it was Constantine's rule that nobody in his territory or Rome was never again allowed to observe the Sabbath day.
And he rebranded Sunday, which was already pagan Sunday, for sun worship, S-U-N worship, not the Son of God.
And he called it the Lord's Day.
But it was the fake one.
It wasn't Lord Jesus Christ, the capital L. It was a low-case L. Which is Tammuz.
You know what I mean?
So that's where that comes from.
So, where is the Bible?
What in the Bible does it say of the Lord's Day?
It only says it once.
So, this is now, mind you, this is before.
Before John received the Revelation.
So, Revelation chapter 1 is the only time it's mentioned in the Bible.
The Lord's Day.
So, he, you know, this is John.
He was banished to the island of Patmos.
It was like a jail they went to.
They put you on an island or something, right?
So, and so, John right here at the beginning, and if you want to, yeah, the context of this is John...
Also, your brother and companion in tribulation in the kingdom of the patience of Jesus Christ was in the isle of that book called Patmos for the word of God and for the testimony of Jesus.
So in the context, this talk explains who John was first and the context of the nature here of the purpose of Revelation, right?
So John begins basically, he says, I was in the spirit on the Lord's day and heard behind me a great voice of trumpet.
Because people are like, oh, you know, he's referring to Sunday.
No, it's not.
And he was referring when he was getting the revelation.
No, he hadn't received the revelation yet.
This is before Jesus gave him the revelation.
Because he heard a voice behind him as a voice of a great trumpet that startled him.
And that voice said, I am the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last.
This is Jesus.
So before Jesus gave him the revelation, right?
John says where he was, on the island of Patmos, and he was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day.
So what is the Lord's Day?
Well, you know, another one John Hall teaches, let the Scripture interpret Scripture.
And how do we interpret what the Lord's Day was?
Well, simple.
You go to Matthew...
Go off to Matthew 12, verse 8. For the Son of Man is the Lord of even the Sabbath.
So, if Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath, that means what?
The Lord's Day.
Boom!
Right there.
That's interpreted itself.
It talks about it, right?
In the context of it, talking about the Sabbath in the New Testament.
And he said, have you not read the law?
How about the Sabbath days, and the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath?
And are blameless.
Question then, right?
But I say unto you, that in this place is one greater than the temple.
But if you have known what this means, I will have mercy and not sacrifice.
Ye would have not condemned the guiltless.
So this is Jesus, like, really handed it to the Jews.
And he says, for the Son of Man is even the Lord of the Sabbath.
Because he's saying, if you don't know what's greater than this temple right now.
He's talking about him.
Him being greater than the temple.
He's the prophesied Messiah.
But he declares himself what?
The Lord of the Sabbath.
So, the Lord's Day.
So, the Lord of the Sabbath Day is what?
The Sabbath Day is the Lord's.
Not too hard to figure it out with the Scripture interprets Scripture.
John, again, I was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day.
Dan goes right out to talk about Jesus.
So you can't possibly misunderstand this.
He had a spirit in the Lord's day, and Jesus spoke to him.
Over here, Jesus is really bringing it to the Jews that are trying to condemn him.
Dan says, him, the Messiah, the Son of Man, the Son of God, is the Lord even on the Sabbath day, capital O. So, when the Lord's Day, not the Catholic Church's version, The Lord's Day is the Sabbath, Saturday, the seventh day.
Plain and simple.
There's no dispute or argument about that.
Let the Scripture interpret Scripture.
There you go.
And I didn't even, I wish I would have known this when I did my Sabbath shows and all that because it was a few days ago that just really, because when I watch, then when I watch Tracy's video too, that's when it really got into my head, wait a minute, yeah, we'll make the correlations with these verses.
So, it's alright.
We could do this, right?
Once again.
Another demonstration.
Somebody can read that verse, right?
And, yeah.
Read the verse.
What is the lunch name?
We could, you know, come up with a million different interpretations.
People say, whoa, I got proof it's a Monday.
I got proof it's a Sunday.
I got proof...
Yeah.
You got proof of what?
Not the Bible.
So let the Scripture interpret the Scripture.
So lean not on your own understanding as the Bible commands us, right?
Let the Scripture interpret itself.
Let the Holy Spirit interpret it.
It's right there.
He's on the Lord's day and the Lord appeared to him.
Jesus here says he's the Lord of the Sabbath.
That's the Lord's day.
And what they do, the other thing they do is they misinterpret this, too.
Because later in Revelation, it talks about the day of the Lord.
Now, this is not the Sabbath.
The day of the Lord is judgment.
This is mentioned a couple times in Revelation.
It's not the same day.
The Lord's day and the day of the Lord are two different things.
You've got to understand that because the Lord's day is His seventh day.
It's Jesus, He's the Lord of the Sabbath, right?
God in the flesh, manifest in the flesh.
Right?
The day of the Lord, okay, is the day of judgment.
When all comes to an end, and, you know, God, like, puts these bad people in a lake of fire, all that stuff.
You know what I mean?
When it's finished, you know what I mean?
So, that's the day of the Lord.
Don't misinterpret that for the Lord's day.
Two different things they're talking about.
The Lord's day is the seventh day Sabbath, and the day of the Lord is the dependent judgment that's coming.
So I wish I would have known this when I did my Sabbath shows, but it would make for another Sabbath show, so it's pretty cool.
But it's cool how the Holy Spirit reveals this stuff to you over time.
Like I said earlier, you can read a passage or whatever in the Bible over and over again.
And it's the Holy Spirit that brings it to light.
You know what I mean?
To notice it.
Like, you know what?
You could drive down the street every day.
Your street that you go to work, right?
Every day the same route.
Back and forth.
Go to the store, you go down the same road.
You know, all the time, going down that road.
And at one time, something could stick out to you.
That's been there the whole time, but you've just never seen it.
That's how the Holy Spirit operates.
Because the Lord gives you what you can handle at the time.
What He wants you to know at the time to be applicable to what He wants you to teach.
He's not going to flood you with a bunch of stuff to confuse you.
He's going to give you like what He talks about the spiritual gifts and too.
Because you've got these charismatic ministries out there that say, Oh, you have to speak in tongues to be saved.
No, that's not the case.
The scriptures clearly tell you not everybody will get the gift of tongues.
Not everybody's going to get the gift of prophecy.
Not everybody's going to get the gift of healing.
Everybody gets their talents individually.
What they can handle, what God deems necessary for you.
Not everybody's going to get the same things, you know what I mean?
So that's what we need to understand.
That's why we do these shows, to really show you what the scripture says to combat that religious dogma crap going on.
And speaking of that, the Muslims, man, they're a doozy, man.
They are a doozy.
I debate these people constantly.
And they sit there constantly posting scripture out of context, right?
And try to say that the Bible's full of contradictions and these other people out there that do that, the Richard Dawkins people and all that...
So they'll pull up, they'll look on Google to try to find a meme to show a Bible contradiction.
So you look at the verses, right?
I forgot where in Matthew and where in Mark, right?
But you can look it up.
So it says a Bible contradiction.
Over here in Matthew it says that Jacob was the father of Joseph.
But in Mark, they're saying...
Not Moses, I'm sorry.
Joseph.
Yeah.
Jacob is the father of Joseph.
Mary's husband, right?
But in Mark, it says...
Heli, H-E-L-I, was Joseph's father, so there's a contradiction.
Well, is there a contradiction there?
Yes, it says that, but what does that mean?
So if you read these two things in context, what I explain to them, you clearly see, because Jacob, it says, very word, right?
Specifically, I should have brought these up, but specifically it says, Jacob begot Joseph.
Begot, you know, pass the seed to be, you know, Joseph.
And in Mark it says that Heli was the father of Joseph.
So, is that a contradiction?
No, because you've got to understand, who was Eli?
He was Mary's biological father.
Eli begot Mary, not Joseph.
So, how is this wording?
Because easily.
Again, the word salad, right?
And people take that, oh, no, that's a contradiction.
No, it's not.
Because if Eli was the father of Mary, the biological father of Mary, who would he be to Joseph, this father-in-law?
Right?
So, is that a contradiction?
No.
And it's not going to say father-in-law.
Like, my mother-in-law or my father-in-law.
I don't go, hey, mother-in-law.
Hey, father-in-law.
No.
I say, hi, mom.
Hi, dad.
I call them mom and dad.
I don't know anybody that's married that calls their in-laws, hey, father-in-law.
Hey, mother-in-law.
No.
Hi, mom.
Hi, dad.
Out of respect.
That's ages old that people do that.
So again, common sense, using the Bible in context and all that stuff.
You clearly see it's not a contradiction.
You're like, oh man, I can't believe these people.
And you study who he was.
He was a biological father.
He begot Mary.
Jacob begot Joseph.
So yes, Eli was father of Joseph.
A father-in-law.
You know what I mean?
This is just that common sense stuff.
But they'll take that because they know most people don't know the Bible.
And you see a bunch of people liking it.
Oh, wow, wow.
Did you bother reading it?
No, you didn't.
You know, so many clear examples of this stuff, man.
It's on canon.
All the time.
And they'll say, oh, mom, look.
They'll bring up the Bible verses that God cannot be tempted, right?
Then they'll say, oh, Jesus was tempted by Satan.
And then we'll time out for one minute.
Did you bother reading that?
Go read the whole context again.
Satan tried, I repeat, tried to tempt Jesus.
What did Jesus tell him?
For it is written, referring to what?
The Torah.
The laws.
For it is written, Thy shall not tempt the Lord thy God.
Did Jesus fall into temptation?
No.
He promised him, yeah, I'll make you the rule of this world.
Took him up on a high mountain.
You can rule all this if you bow down instead of me.
Was Jesus tempted by that?
No.
He goes, no.
When he told him, jump off the cliff and your angels will catch you.
Or turn that stone into bread.
Did Jesus do that?
No.
No.
So, therefore, he was not tempted.
Satan tried to tempt him.
And he said, again, if what is written, thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
So, is that a Bible contradiction?
No.
Clearly not, because simple context.
Again, when you know the Bible in context, guys, you can't be deceived by these people.
Now, the average churchgoer or whatever, that doesn't really know that.
You know what I mean?
And I did see tons of people counter that to say, no, he wasn't tempted.
He tried to tempt him, which is good.
You know what I mean?
But when these people don't know the Bible, they fall short in food because the Bible tells us to be, to show ourselves approved.
To know the scriptures to show ourselves approved.
This way we can combat that kind of stuff.
And I understand people say, well, I don't want to engage in your debates.
I don't want to engage in arguments.
No, I'm not saying to go out and pick an argument or anything like that.
But you need to defend yourself.
You know, defend the Word of God, not yourself.
So if you see some bloke online saying, oh, this is a Bible contradiction.
You know it's not.
I'm not going to bother because I don't want to engage in an argument.
You don't have to argue with him.
Just put it right out and say, no, it's not a contradiction.
This is what it means in context.
That's all you have to do.
And of course, they're going to come back at you with some foolish stuff.
They'll stop bashing you personally because they can't debate you.
You don't have to argue with it.
Just put the truth and label it, plain and simple.
And it's always good to engage in debates and all that too because it keeps you sharp.
It keeps the stuff on hand.
You know what I mean?
It's great.
You know what I mean?
And the Bible does say don't argue with fools.
So you got some guy just screwing around like that.
Yeah.
That's why when he started going off the hook, and I'm like, you know, this is done.
It's done.
It's already cleared.
This has been over like an hour ago.
And that's why I'm like, you know what?
I remember that verse.
And I'm like, yeah, this is done.
It's over.
You know what I mean?
So...
Yeah, and he couldn't even form a sentence to even explain himself, you know?
But yeah, it's crazy, man.
All these examples, you know?
And it's crazy.
So yeah, thank you guys for tuning in.
So next week, David Carrico.
And before we go, I want to give a shout-out to Sister Kathleen.
Of Esther Jades LTD. So again, they don't have a website right now because it's weird with GoDaddyZone.
So I'm trying to help them with the website eventually.
But for now, if you go to their Facebook page, it's Esther Jades LTD. And it's like all kinds of the stuff, you know, I can't say too much because of YouTube, but it's a natural holistic medicines and stuff like that to help you.
I've been using them and I forgot to bring the box with me.
She sent me some stuff because I like to show the products on the air and all that stuff.
And it's great stuff.
And I think a lot of you guys have used her products, the Pain Buster Cream and...
Her and her daughter, they make some great stuff and they end up getting a new house because their living conditions are a little shaky so we all prayed for her and everything.
So she did get a new house and she's got an area where she could produce her stuff to run a company and everything.
It's a home based company and everything.
So, great stuff, man.
Let me see if I can get some of the products.
She's got more than I even knew at the beginning.
So, he's...
All these products there.
And it's cool too because when she sends them to you, like there's some of the products there, when she sends the stuff to you, she'll send you either handwritten or typed up.
She'll tell you, explain to you what the stuff does, what it's made of, and how to use it.
You know what I mean?
And it's amazing.
So thank you, Sister Kathleen.
And again, this is Pain Buster Cream here.
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Especially for people like me who go to the gym and all that, wrestle and all that.
We put our bodies through a lot of abuse.
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That's a lot.
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My muscles, my pecs over here were really hurting.
And I rubbed that stuff in, massaged it in, and the pain went away.
It felt great the next day.
So this is some good stuff here.
And I swear by this stuff.
And she's got tons and tons and tons of products here.
And she just makes everything homemade.
It's all organic stuff.
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But she's got a list of all the products too.
And she's got so much stuff.
Tinctures and all kinds of...
Like homemade remedies, teas and all that herbal teas and everything else.
And again, with specific instructions how to use it.
And so you're not clueless when you get it, you know?
And how much you use and all that good stuff here Yeah So, good stuff, man.
So, yeah.
I'll play it.
Actually, I should play a video going out of our stuff.
But I actually don't have it yet.
I'm just talking to myself.
So yeah, and again, one more time before we go, please go sign up if you haven't already.
Let me put the link in the chat room.
So this is the direct link.
And if you're watching on FOJC Radio Thursday, the link will be in the description, I believe, and it should be.
So it's on the website of fojcradio.com.
So you go to the website, you click Special Events, and it takes you to the page here, and sign up for this Choose Your Day, Choose You This Day, I'm sorry, Wednesday, October 23rd.
And the rest, Joshua 24, 15 says, And if it seems evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day from whom you will follow, whether the gods, low case G, refer to false gods, Which your father served that were on the other side of the flood, and the gods of Amorites.
So, low case G. False gods.
Amorites or Nephrim, right?
And those, whose land you dwell, but as far as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
So, this is a big operation we're launching now.
David's launching.
To take back...
I'm sorry, I keep saying take back.
To take a stand against these pagan rituals and what they call holidays and all that.
And take a stand to stand with the biblical feasts.
And no, they're not just for the Jews.
Because again, if you call yourself...
I hate when people say that.
Oh, it's just for the Jews.
Oh, is it?
Did not Jesus explain how this works?
When you become a believer to Him, you become grafted into God's Israel?
Therefore, spiritually, you're a Jew!
I hear when these Christian churches do that.
These dispensational churches out there.
Oh, no, that's Jewish stuff.
The Passover.
That's just for the Jews.
Aren't you not a Jew, too?
Oh, no, we're Christian.
No, you're a Jew.
Spiritually.
God's Jews.
God's Israel.
Therefore, those things apply to you.
Oh, the Ten Commandments said just for the...
Oh, no.
You become a believer.
Yeah, you're a Gentile.
No, they didn't apply to you when you were a Gentile.
But when you're a believer, yeah, they do apply to you.
Because now you're grafted into God's Israel.
You're adopted child of God now.
So, yes, these things do apply to you.
You know what I mean?
We've done tons of shows on that stuff.
But, oh, yeah.
It's just amazing how people just twist, squirt, all the time.
Especially dispensationalism.
They're the kings at that.
Yeah, it's sickening.
So, yeah, four hours.
Wow, four and a half hours you've been on.
So, Brian, you're going to have a big show to upload for Thursday.
All right, guys, I don't mean to take your time.
This is like 1.30 in the morning.
All right, so thank you guys for...
I could just be here all night talking about this stuff, and you guys are just like...
That debate got me just fired up, you know, so...
Alright guys, love you.
God bless.
Shalom.
We'll see you next Friday, live, live, live.
We're going to have Brother David Carrico on.
We're going to talk about the Biblical Feast and all this stuff coming up here.
So it's going to be a great broadcast.
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You know what I mean?
Yeah, I love the Midnight Ride.
Awesome stuff.
And so...
And guys, with all the controversy going on, I'm going to end it with this.
I'm not going to bring it up anymore.
I just...
I'm not a gossiper.
So I just...
One thing...
Somebody mentioned in the chat too.
Just pray for...
Peace.
Yeah, whatever they said I think was in that category.
Yeah, just pray for peace and that eventually she'll open her eyes, whatever the case, and, you know, the Father leads her in the right direction again, you know what I mean?
So other than that, yeah, we're going to leave it at that, you know what I mean?
And God bless everybody, everybody in general, you know what I mean?
Even Brother Jim that was on earlier, God bless him and just lead us all into the light, you know what I mean?
The way, the truth, the way the Scripture wants us to be, so...