Knowledge Fight Interactive Search Tool

All Episodes

Previous Next

Nov. 25, 2023 - Dan Bidondi Show

03:04:33

Exposing The Dark Weapon of Sleep Paralysis - Spiritual Warfare Friday Live 9pm et

Large

Audio Only |

Scroll

Time	Text
	Thank you.
	And we challenge you to love and serve the Lord and learn all that you can about him.
	We're preaching the gospel of the kingdom and teaching the doctrine of Christ to the whole world.
	And thanks again for listening to our programs and blessings to all of you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you. .
	I don't know.
	It's time to shake and wake up the world with the best biblical talk shows from all over the world gathered in one place.
	ShakeAndWakeRadio.com where the truth is all that matters and the truth will set you free.
	ShakingwickRadio.com ShakingwickRadio.com
	ShakingwickRadio.com
	The End
	Dan, I think you're muted, Dan.
	They're saying no sound.
	You're muted.
	Yeah, mic check.
	Rewind.
	Rewind, man.
	Yeah.
	Just rewind.
	So, here we go.
	Take two.
	Welcome to Special Offer Friday.
	I'm hosting it with Donny's and Brian, who's the co-host here.
	And special guest, Vicki Drake-Anderson.
	She's an author of They Come Out At Night, the book we just showed you here.
	Sorry, guys, my microphone wasn't connected.
	So, here we go.
	Thank you, Brian, for letting me know.
	So, Expose the Dark Weapon of Sleep Paralysis is on our show tonight.
	And thank you to ShakingAwayBurrito.com for carrying this show in, and BeforeItSleeps.com, please check them out.
	I'm a contributor for them.
	It's all trailer news, media sites, so check them out.
	So, this book here, they've only come out at night.
	Expose the Dark Weapon of Sleep Paralysis.
	That's the title we have for the show tonight.
	Vicky Drain, The Sand Cheese, A victim, as well as me, but she's a victim.
	She's got this awesome book out there called Sleep Paralysis.
	And we're going to get to sleep paralysis.
	Most people hear me, hear sleep paralysis, they think, oh wow, it's just some kind of psychological thing that doctors help people with.
	No, you've got to understand, it goes beyond what doctors... And the thing is, years ago, you were walking into a church, probably a hundred years ago, someone was talking about sleep paralysis.
	They knew what it was.
	They knew how to deal with it.
	Now today they go to the hospital and we can't help them.
	Because they lack spiritual warfare.
	This is a major spiritual warfare problem that's plaguing millions of people.
	And it's very widely downed by the scientific community and the medical community and all that.
	Because they just want to put you up on the internet and watch what I say on YouTube.
	They want to put you off on their medications, that's what they want to do, to make some money.
	But they don't want to get into the real problem, the deep root of what sleep paralysis is.
	Now understand, there's many people who have different levels of sleep paralysis.
	Some people just can't sleep, and it ranges from a very low level to an extremely high level.
	And it gets into demonic possession, it gets into demonic oppression, aliens, whatever you want to call them, which they are, fallen angels.
	And as the Bible says, well this goes deep into also abduction as well.
	So this is going to go down the rabbit trail today.
	Excuse me guys, I'm just top tied today because I'm still recovering from a few weeks ago when this was the first show I did in a week.
	Usually I do 2-3 shows a week and I've been taking it easy the last couple of weeks.
	Um, forgive me for interrupting and introducing, but your mic is still, everybody's speaking in the chat, but it sounds like you're in a tunnel.
	And, um, forgive me, Dan, I just had seen on the chat, so I didn't want to interrupt the introduction, but something is, I think it might be switched over to the other mic that you have.
	They said you're in a tunnel, but I can hear you.
	I can hear you fine on my end, but here we go.
	Is that better?
	That should be.
	It does sound a lot better quality.
	All right, there you go.
	Forgive me, forgive me, brother.
	Sorry, at least I heard me this time.
	So, sorry guys.
	I had my microphone hooked up to another system because on Thursdays we produce a pro-professional wrestling show here.
	So, all the microphones are all messed up here today.
	So, anyway, welcome to the broadcast.
	Vicki, how are you?
	Thank you.
	Thanks for having me.
	I'm doing great and happy to be here.
	Absolutely.
	And so, you want to give a quick introduction yourself?
	Yeah, sure.
	So my name is Vicki Joy Anderson, and I'm an author, researcher, and I never thought that this is the kind of thing I'd be writing on, you know?
	It's not the kind of thing, at least growing up in the 70s and 80s, this wasn't the kind of thing that you talked about, really, with too many people, unless you wanted them to walk away and I think you were nuts, right?
	But, you know, I always wanted to be a writer.
	I wanted to be a writer since I was 10 years old.
	Kind of thought I would just do the typical, you know, there's a certain number of things you can write about if you're a Christian woman.
	So it was like, you write about marriage problems or dieting, basically.
	If you don't want to write about those two things, most of the publishers, at least in the past, didn't have much time for you.
	But I started working for Tom Dunn of Through the Black, and you can check us out on YouTube, Through the Black 2.
	And we do all sorts of stuff with spiritual warfare, occult crime, and satanic ritual abuse, anything that relates to spiritual warfare.
	And so I started writing for realdarknews.com, and that really sort of opened up for me this idea that I had a space to talk about these things.
	Both Tom Dunn as well as Ellie Marzulli, who published the book, have this total and complete non-micro-managing approach with me, where they basically let me say whatever I want.
	They just fully trust What I'm saying, no matter how crazy it is.
	So I just kind of kept going and going and going and I thought, well, now it's time to talk about the sleep paralysis stuff.
	There's millions of people out there who have experienced this.
	It's escalating and it's getting more serious.
	And at the same time that it's getting more serious, the media is portraying it as more of a caricature of, it goes along with all of the children's nightmares and the monsters under the bed.
	they're kind of trying to downplay it.
	Like it's just this silly little thing that you have when you're a child and it's no big deal.
	And it really is a big deal.
	So I decided that I wanted to really get into more of an intellectually honest discussion about this topic in both the mainstream as well as in the Christian arenas.
	Awesome.
	And that's what we need to do because, like I say all the time, knowing Jesus is number one and spiritual warfare should be number two, which unfortunately a lot of churches lack doing that.
	I think most churches do nowadays.
	But anyway, Brian, do you want to lead us off in a prayer for the show?
	I sure will, Dan.
	I sure will, Dan.
	Sure.
	Dear Heavenly Father, thank you for this day.
	Thank you for this Spiritual Warfare Friday broadcast.
	Please, Lord, be with all the tech issues and whatnot, and I pray it'll be a really good, successful program.
	Thank you for Miss Vicki being on here with us tonight and giving her testimony.
	It's a blessing, and thank you for Brother Dan.
	Thank you for allowing him to keep going after his little health scare.
	I pray that it continues to recover and gets better.
	And thank you for allowing me to be on here also.
	I pray for everybody in the chat.
	I pray everybody has a great weekend coming up.
	And I'm just thankful to be here, Lord.
	And thank you for every day.
	It's just an honor.
	And thank you so much for everything.
	And I ask all these things in Jesus' name.
	Amen.
	Okay, that's the number one thing in spiritual welfare is you pray for us, get ready with God, get a protection here, and off we go.
	So yeah, Vicky, again, thank you for joining us on the show.
	This is going to be amazing, and you know, I'm not going to sit here, you know, tell everybody my, you know, my experiences I had, you know, just going to be brief about it.
	I had sleep paralysis since I was, I'd say a young teen, like 11, 12 years old in that area.
	And at major, major levels of it.
	Being ripped off the bed.
	I mean, all kinds of crazy stuff you couldn't even imagine that happened.
	And crazy stuff, man.
	And one day, I tried all these different things and everything else.
	And plus, it didn't help me be involved with paranormal exploration and all that stuff.
	So one day when I got wise and learned about spiritual warfare and everything else in the scriptures, I confronted this demon.
	It was a legit demon in the name of Jesus Christ.
	The thing left and never came back again.
	And actually, I'm sorry, let me rephrase that.
	It left and it tried coming back once in a while, but every time it got easier and easier to get rid of.
	Because remember, these demons, they think you're their property, right?
	So when you disband from them, they get so angry, they can't stand the fact that they lost you.
	So they're going to keep trying to come back into your life.
	But when you have faith like that, it gets easier to get rid of them, because the thing is, when you witness the power of the Holy Spirit, when you witness the power of Jesus Christ, all your attributes go through the roof.
	Your faith, just all that stuff, your stamina and God in a spiritual sense, and all the attributes just skyrocket because you actually feel and witness the power of the Holy Spirit in Jesus Christ, which is amazing.
	So, yeah.
	And so, Vicki, now, how old were you when you first experienced sleep paralysis?
	I have a hunch that started even well before my first memory of it, but my first explicit memory of it, I had to have been about four years old.
	But I had other things going on before that that led me to believe that it probably happened.
	This is why I actually think it happened before that.
	These entities are extremely legalistic.
	To a fault.
	And anybody out there who maybe had a poor religious experience and thinks that Christians are the most legalistic people on the planet, we're the second most legalistic, okay?
	The first most legalistic is the demon world.
	And they take advantage of knowing every single letter of the law, because that's how they like to get us entangled, is they know we don't know every letter of the law.
	And so what ended up happening is I prayed to receive Christ at a very, very young age.
	I don't even remember the incident, but my mom always told me that I was three years old.
	And after she passed away, I found a notebook that went all the way back to the 70s, and it was a calendar.
	And it was in the month of May.
	I don't remember the date, but in the month of May, 1975, she had written on the calendar, Vicki prayed at the kitchen table to receive Jesus.
	So I know that it was in 75.
	And so even though I prayed to receive Christ at three years old, we have all these Christianese terms, you know, we're praying to receive Jesus and whatever, but the fact of the matter is, if you want to put it into legalese, when we do that, what we're doing is we're entering into a covenant, right?
	When we ask Jesus to come into our heart, what we're doing is we're willingly entering into a covenant.
	And the way that these covenants work, they're kind of like betrothal covenants, If you're already bound in a covenant and you try to get involved in another covenant, you have to tie up the loose ends of this covenant first.
	And a lot of these covenants are till death do you part.
	And so this is why it says in scripture when Paul writes about dying to the old man, the reason we have to die to the old self and live as the new person Isn't just like, Hey, it's a fresh start.
	It's a reset button.
	No, it's far more, it's more legal than that.
	The reason we have to die is because all of the old covenants that we are legally bound to, it's the only way that we can legally become unbound from those covenants.
	So the reason I believe the sleep paralysis came even before three years old,
	is because I believe I was already legally bound in the astral realm in a covenant with one of these entities, so that when I prayed to receive Christ at three, it was legit, and I followed him, but I had issues and struggles my entire childhood, and through puberty, through teenage years, through young adulthood, I was constantly struggling with
	Why am I having these issues with affections for Christ and loving God?
	I know how to go to church and go on mission trips and memorize scripture, and I'm doing all the things that are supposed to lead to peace, love, joy, and happiness.
	And why am I struggling?
	What's missing?
	And what took me over 40 years to figure out is I had legal contracts with other things that had to be dismantled before I could fully be in that covenant with Christ.
	And it doesn't mean you're not saved and it doesn't mean God doesn't love you.
	It just means that we have to look part of spiritual warfare.
	It's not just car wrecks or people getting sick or people dying or things that happen overseas.
	Part of spiritual warfare is constantly cleaning out that closet and asking the spirit to reveal the things that are binding us.
	And a lot of times, spiritual warfare can go, it's very covert sometimes.
	It's not necessarily something that we are aware of.
	This is my theory.
	When you get to the point where you actually recognize that spiritual warfare is in your life, It's already reached like threat level 10 because a lot of spiritual warfare hovers covertly.
	They don't want to be discovered.
	They don't want to be cast out.
	And so it's the days that you wake up and think you're not having any spiritual warfare that you really need to be praying and looking over your shoulder and being sober minded and being vigilant and remembering that he's a roaring lion seeking someone to devour.
	So he knows stealth.
	And we have to always be aware.
	Absolutely.
	And that's when you least expect it, is when you're like, oh, yeah, everything's okay today.
	And that's when it hits you without having the spiritual covering.
	And that's crazy.
	And I know also you wanted to get the discussion of what the medical community is doing and also the churches.
	And it's a lack of spiritual knowledge with the churches.
	And the churches should be on the front line of this stuff.
	They really should.
	But unfortunately, they're not.
	And of course the medical community we can't say too much because of the YouTube but Yeah, everybody should know how the medical community works.
	It's only about the dollar bill.
	It's about it but yeah, so when you were this little girl experiencing stuff and I could only couldn't even imagine because uh Being that young you're innocent and unaware of all the stuff.
	You're like what in the heck is going on?
	You know, and could you explain the different?
	Like levels or attacks that you had gotten Yeah, absolutely It's really strange when I look back on it now, you know, hindsight's 20-20 as they say, I'm actually shocked that for a four-year-old, I was thinking about and contemplating and trying to figure this out as much as I was.
	You know, we always look at little kids and we think that they're just thinking about, you know, the next snack that they're gonna get or what's on TV, but like, there is a fertile mind.
	These young minds are going a thousand miles an hour and I attribute a lot of that, too, to the grace of God and the Holy Spirit in my life, even as a child, because I was pondering these things.
	Even as a little girl, I knew there was something different about these experiences.
	I knew that they were a different Kind of a nightmare.
	I believed that they were just bad dreams because I didn't have any other way to explain it, but I knew that they were different.
	And even the few times I would tell my mom about them, I would say, I had another one of those dreams last night.
	That's the way I would word it.
	So even in my little, tiny, inexperienced head, I knew there was something different about it.
	Now, here's where it can get kind of complicated, and if you talked to a psychologist or something, they would have an explanation for it.
	I had a Sunday school context.
	You know, I went to Sunday school every Sunday, so I knew there was a heaven and a hell, and a God and a devil, and a Jesus and angels, and I knew there were good angels and bad angels.
	I had these categories.
	And so, one could say that because I had those categories, I was able to Uh, identify what was going on to a certain degree, but a secular person would say, well, if you didn't have any of those categories, then you would understand that this isn't spiritual.
	And the reason you're making it spiritual is because you have those categories.
	And so it's one of those confirmation bias sort of things where you're going to kind of believe what you're going to believe.
	But when you're a little girl and you know, there's good and evil in the world and that Jesus is your friend and he's got an enemy.
	When something's coming to you at night saying, No one can hear you scream, I'm dragging you to hell.
	I mean, what other category do you have?
	Who else wants to drag you to hell?
	You know what I mean?
	And again, you could say, I mean, I've read treatises on sleep paralysis in the past where they talk about culturally, sleep paralysis takes on a different form in every culture depending upon their spiritual mythos.
	And I think that's one of the ways these entities are able to hide, is they hide behind these cultural mythologies.
	And so that's why little children aren't taken seriously when they say they saw the boogeyman, when they say that they saw, you know, every culture has their own, you know, name for these different things.
	And so When a little child comes and says, I heard this, I saw this, that culture automatically has their specific boogeyman that they can attribute that to.
	So, you know, whether it's a banshee or it's the old, you know, troll under the bridge or, you know, whatever, right?
	And so, When a Christian talks about this, they automatically put it into their cultural mythos, which is, obviously through the spiritual lens, this is something demonic.
	Unfortunately, when you try to have an intellectual discussion with anyone outside of the church, As soon as you bring up that there's a spiritual aspect to this or that it's a demon, you're automatically like, you know, the family feud ex comes out because you've just let out of the bag that you're an ignorant, narrow-minded Christian and you're the type that's going to grab a torch and burn witches and you're in the dark ages and we've come further than this.
	So obviously, as a child, when I would tell my parents about this, they took it seriously.
	And I think that even though we all kind of just thought it was dreams, they did They did perceive it as a spiritual attack, because I remember at a very young age, my mom teaching me certain Bible verses that I could memorize.
	And so, even at four, five, six years old, I would have these little Bible verses.
	I still remember the one from Joshua.
	I think Joshua 1, 8 through 9, Have I not commanded you to be strong and courageous?
	Do not be terrified.
	Do not be discouraged.
	For the Lord your God is with you wherever you may go.
	And we talked a little bit about this before the show.
	Once the sleep paralysis experience is over, you're still terrified.
	You still feel that presence in the room.
	And so after I would call on the name of Jesus and it would stop and I would wake up, I would still have a lot of terror because you could still feel the presence looming in the room.
	And I remember just sitting there with my eyes squeezed shut and in my head just having a command to be strong and courageous.
	Do not be terrified.
	Do not be discouraged.
	And, you know, again, hindsight's 20-20.
	It took me, you know, decades and decades to figure this out.
	On one hand, you can have the skeptics saying, well, how cruel is that?
	That, like, innocent little children can be attacked by these things, and Jesus isn't going to protect them, and why wouldn't Jesus protect them from that?
	And the fact of the matter is, it was very scary, and I did have to navigate through that for most of my life, but here's the good thing, and this is what's relevant to your listeners.
	I was learning spiritual warfare from three years old, right?
	So you can go to churches now where people poo-poo that and it doesn't exist anymore or it only happens in third world countries or it only happens if you're playing with Ouija boards and you're conjuring things.
	But the fact of the matter is I am aware of spiritual warfare and I believe in it and I have come to learn how to fight it and help others with it.
	Because at three years old, it started happening to me.
	And when you've got 40 years experience with anything, you get to know your way around it.
	You don't get to the point where you enjoy it or you like it.
	But the fact of the matter is, for some people, and we can get into this more later and it's a little bit in my book, This idea in the church that everyone who has sleep paralysis has opened a door, they have an unconfessed sin, they aren't really a Christian.
	Sometimes the Lord permits certain levels of this to persist in a person's life.
	Because they are being trained in spiritual warfare.
	Yep.
	And you know, when you mentioned that too, about, you know, learning at a young age, and that's the whole thing is, you know, I contemplated this whole thing over years and I'm like, you know, what was the point of this?
	Why would God allow this?
	And I understood and learned why.
	Because if this didn't happen, I would never have this kind of knowledge of spiritual warfare.
	My faith wouldn't have been that strong.
	I mean, so there's many reasons and why God trains you at a young age.
	And as a young kid, I was like, always learned how to fight off demons, like, you know, spiritually.
	And I had no clue what I was doing when I was a kid.
	And it was God all these years into my adulthood and everything else.
	Even once in a while, I still have dreams of confronting demons and help people from them.
	And they were very applicable in real life, you know?
	So this was the Lord training me from day one when I was young and also getting me used to this and accustomed to the spiritual warfare.
	So, now when I understood all this, it's like, oh, thank you, Lord, because even though when you were a kid and young teenager, all that, you were just horrified by this stuff, right?
	But then you're like, all right, this is the Lord preparing me, like military, right?
	You're going to go to basic training, you're going to MOS school.
	Before you go into battle, you're going to go through a special training for that, too.
	That was the Lord doing that for us and you as well, and I'm glad you brought that up because Yeah, because people say, well, why would Jesus allow you to go through that?
	Well, because of that.
	To train you, to forge you through the fire, to make you stronger, and for the Lord's purpose, the Father's purpose and His will.
	Yeah, amen, amen.
	And I think where we have to be careful with that is for those of us that are kind of lifelong sufferers of this.
	We can go through various phases of acceptance with this.
	There's, there's the phase where we hate this and we want to get rid of it.
	And then there's this kind of love hate phase you go through where you hate it and you don't want to have it, but you are almost intrigued with why is this happening to me?
	And am I special?
	And the entities love to play on that.
	Well, you are special, you're chosen.
	And that's how so many people get thrown into the new age.
	But here's another thing that I'm noticing now that I'm having, more people to talk to who have experienced this.
	And one thing, and it's very subtle, so if you've had sleep paralysis your whole life, this is something to just be aware of and pray about and take your pulse on this.
	There are people who have had this their whole life who obtain a warrior spirit.
	It's hard not to.
	And when you have a warrior spirit, you are trained and fit for the battle.
	And you almost develop this, like, bring it on kind of a thing, right?
	Bring it on.
	And what I have seen happen in a few cases is people almost begin to enjoy the experience because they fight these demons and then they wake up and they've got this great story about all these demons that they battled and everyone's all impressed with the stories.
	And here's the goal, guys.
	The ultimate goal of sleep paralysis, the ultimate goal isn't to just get rid of these things or to fight them.
	The ultimate goal is to use those times of rest at night to meet with the Father, to have intimacy with the Son.
	And there's hints of this in scripture, and I'm not talking New Age stuff, I'm not talking some sort of weird unbiblical Christian astral projection, I'm not talking about anything sexual or weird, I'm talking about This idea that we go to bed at night and the veil thins and that they're... Look at all of the scriptures where Solomon asked for wisdom during a dream.
	He had an encounter, probably with the pre-incarnate Messiah.
	He had an encounter in his sleep and we know it was something more than just a dream because he asked for wisdom and he received it, you know?
	And we see other examples in dreams and visions.
	Song of Solomon 5.2 is this grand metaphor.
	It's about Solomon and one of his brides, but it's also about the bride of Christ and the bridegroom, Jesus Christ.
	And in Song of Solomon 5.2, it says that the bride was asleep, but her heart was awake.
	So in other words, she's asleep, but she's in this altered state of consciousness when the spirit realm is awake and the veil is thin.
	and the bridegroom came to the door and sought out her intimacy, right?
	And she was disoriented and spooked and didn't know what to do.
	And when she woke up, she was like, "Oh, I turned the bridegroom away." And she went out and the story gets very bizarre from there.
	She ends up getting attacked by the watchman and she's not attacked by the bridegroom.
	Don't get that mixed up.
	She's attacked by the watchman.
	And I think there's a lesson in that too, that sometimes when we seek out professionals and religious experts and theologians and Christian authors and pastors and we try to figure out these nocturnal experiences, sometimes they're the ones that can beat us up.
	They're the ones that can gaslight us.
	They're the ones that won't believe us.
	They're the ones that give us bad advice.
	They're the ones that Make fun of us, whatever.
	Revelation 3.20, behold I stand at the door and knock.
	Here we have someone coming, most likely in the middle of the night, and he's looking for fellowship.
	It's a threshold covenant.
	If you hear my voice and answer the door and invite me in, Now we're getting into vampire lore of the invitation over the threshold, right?
	And so, ultimately, what we want, and let me tell you, it is 10,000 times more difficult to meet with the Savior at night than it is to get rid of sleep paralysis demons.
	All you have to do to get rid of sleep paralysis demons is say, in the name of Jesus, get out, right?
	And so, what I try to tell these people who have just kind of not only come to grips with the fact that they have sleep paralysis, but they've sort of embraced it and they get up every morning and they're kind of excited to talk about their victory.
	I told this demon that.
	The goal isn't to fight demons in your sleep and win.
	The goal is to vanquish them and meet with the Savior at night.
	And there's a time of the day that is set aside during these rests and these altered states of consciousness where It's not like a Jacob's Ladder thing where we're ascending up and down a ziggurat and we're getting messages from the astral.
	I'm not talking about anything spooky here.
	I'm just talking about when's the last time you woke up and you felt deeply refreshed and you had a sense of joy.
	Most of us Even when I don't have sleep paralysis, it takes me a while to wake up in the morning.
	It takes me a while to kind of get my head together, right?
	But there's these nights where before I go to bed, I'm consciously praying and asking, I want to have an encounter with Jesus.
	It doesn't mean I have to see him.
	I don't have to have some cool little story that gives everybody goosebumps at the next Bible study.
	I'm not looking for that.
	I'm not looking for dopamine rushes.
	But there's these times, few and far between, where you wake up and you have total peace and you're deeply rested.
	And it's because you haven't had all of these distractions at night and your sleep isn't being interrupted and you're not being harassed.
	And you're getting the deep sleep and the REM sleep that you need.
	And there's Psalms and Bible verses that talk about how one of the gifts that he gives his blessed ones is sleep, is rest.
	So, you guys, the goal isn't to learn how to be a warrior every night.
	The goal is to find rest in the Savior and meet with the Savior.
	That makes sense.
	Do you care if I interject real quick?
	Vicki, I just want to, I don't want to get you, you're on, you're on fire.
	So, um, I literally just met you just a few minutes ago, like right before the program and I have all, all kinds of questions all of a sudden.
	So, uh, you mentioned like at the beginning of the program, he was mentioning, um, like little monsters under the bed, all kinds of references to that point.
	And he was talking about the seventies and eighties and you, I think what you were saying, he was raised in that time.
	Isn't it kind of interesting that, uh, Hollywood narratives, That during that, I remember that too, during that programming, they'd had sleep paralysis films, but it was like kind of sweet, you know, like a little kiddish kind of thing.
	And they would be putting, you know, the children in shock syndrome, right?
	It would be like real friendly, kid-friendly program.
	Then all of a sudden, you know, like, I think it's little monsters with how it wasn't, uh, I think the character was named Maurice.
	I think that's what they called him.
	Um, little monsters, a little blue character.
	Uh, but go underneath the, I think it was Howie Mandel, I think is the name of the character, the actor.
	Is it the Monsters Inc.
	one you're talking about?
	I think it's Little Monsters.
	I think it was a 1989 film.
	Oh, okay.
	That's the one that resonated with me the most and it's kind of interesting because we had your friend on last week, Miss Karen, and she was talking about some blue characters that she has You know, have witnessed and been around and it kind of makes you think when there's like monsters underneath the bed, the 70s and 80s and the Hollywood narrative.
	It's almost like they're, you know, putting those little increment, you know, the consciousness, you know, trying to get people to do these, you know, the astro projection stuff.
	It's literally subliminal messaging in your mind.
	And you start resonating with it, you know, a three-year-old to, you know, I mean, my goodness, to a six-year-old, this would be pretty traumatic, you know, these types of horror movies and whatnot.
	But then I remember, you know, they would just think, Oh, it's just pop, you know, get her popcorn out.
	Let's go drive through, you know, drive-in movie or something.
	And everybody thought it was just sugar and sweet and just a, you know, beautiful thing.
	Right.
	But then in the background, I'm sitting there contemplating what you're having, you know, this, this testimony, I'm thinking, man, this is just.
	The timing on this is pretty impeccable, in my opinion, because I remember very well there was all kinds of films, I can't remember them all, that would come across as sleep paralysis and give people nightmares.
	So that's opening up gates and portals and whatnot.
	And to that effect, there's probably a bunch of people out in 2023 that are suffering from sleep paralysis from the 70s and 80s.
	And that's why it's really important that we do these type of programs, and it's just such a blessing to have you on as a guest.
	But I don't know if you, I don't know if that makes sense, but how do you, how do you feel about that?
	Because it's like, hey, there's a little monster underneath the bed.
	You know, because you see parents even to this day, I'll make you, you need to go to bed early.
	You know, you know, they'll say, you know, you know, don't let the bed bugs bite, you know, or something like that.
	Or they'll say, that's a good doggy.
	Don't let the little monsters get you underneath the bed.
	You know, Monsters Incorporated, the Pixar movies and stuff like that.
	So it's a blue figure, right?
	Sully was a blue character.
	What's up with this blue character stuff, right?
	Karen was telling me about blue handlers, you know, the reptile characters.
	And now I'm here, one week later, talking to Miss Vicki about blue characters.
	It's the same concept with cartoon imagery.
	What do you think?
	What do you think, Miss Vicki?
	Yeah, it is.
	Blue characters, the Hat Man is very prevalent in childhood with the Night Terrors.
	You've got the Freddy Kruegers, etc.
	And yeah, these things that have Survived from antiquity that are supposed to be innocent little nursery rhymes and lullabies and even even like the bedtime prayer Now I laid me down to sleep I pray the Lord my soul to keep if I should die before I wake you know and and granted I know that in in old days They were living through black plagues and stuff like that and and they were a lot more sober in their faith and they They probably meant it in
	In context, it probably, that prayer meant something a lot different in antiquity to today, but you get the average child like, hey, right before you go to bed, let's think about maybe dying in your sleep, you know, and the monsters under the bed, and even the way the media just gaslights the sleep paralysis experience.
	Recent, more recent stuff, if you look at Nightmare on Elm Street, Freddy Krueger, he's hilarious.
	He's cracking jokes, he's got puns, you know, and you don't understand that he's a child murderer who's coming to you in your sleep, he's got a hat on, and the 80s movies couldn't get away with it, so they kept this out of the backstory, but there was a remake Recently in the 2000s of Nightmare on Elm Street, it was not done by Wes Craven, it was done by a different director, and they put in his full backstory.
	And Freddy Krueger wasn't just a murderer, he was the p-word no one can talk about or they get banned on on YouTube, right?
	So you've got that whole element wound up in the sleep paralysis.
	You've got this new series on, I don't know if it's on Netflix or whatever, but it's this new series called Evil.
	And there's a main character in there, and she has sleep paralysis.
	And the sleep paralysis demon comes who looks a lot like Vecna.
	And he's just a character.
	He's hilarious, you know, and he's cracking jokes, and he's witty.
	And even though he's terrorizing her, as a viewer, you're sitting back saying, like, you know, oh, what a cool guy, right?
	You know, so there's this definite intentional push to make the hat man and the sleep paralysis entities Look just silly and childlike and it's just a figment of your imagination.
	And if you go into the medical community, it's just a more sophisticated figment of your imagination.
	You've got some sort of narcolepsy, you've got sleep apnea, you've got stress.
	And don't get me wrong, those things can all come into play and exacerbate the situation.
	A lot of people with sleep paralysis are stressed out.
	They do have breathing problems.
	They do have narcolepsy, but those are adjuncts to this.
	It's not necessarily the cause.
	It becomes a which comes first, the chicken or the egg kind of a thing, right?
	So what gets me too is um, I can understand.
	Yeah, there's medical issues and all that involved.
	I mean when you see these Figures like I got on my slides.
	So you mentioned hat man and the hooded figure There's the two main ones that people seen I have them on my slides here.
	So I How does millions of people see the same thing and have the same experiences, you know, questions of these medical communities, you know?
	How do they all see the same thing?
	You know, is that a coincidence?
	You know, which I think is a coincidence, because anything out of the realm that goes into the supernatural, they don't want to explain, nor do they even want to touch.
	So they automatically dismiss it as some, you know, whatever, some medical term that, you know, which is a spiritual attack, you know?
	It's crazy.
	Yeah.
	Sorry, Vicki.
	The hat man, the first thing I think about is men in black.
	There's all kinds of coincidences about that in the Hopkinsville, Kentucky, the little green men.
	Men in black show up, you know, is it projection?
	Is it, you know, are we looking at, I mean, literally rabbit hole stuff we're talking about here, but Could it be a play on the consciousness of man to have the hat man?
	And it's literally a depiction of the men in black to make some type of weird connection that's causing confusion, you know, mass confusion.
	Hey, it's just a character.
	Or maybe it is a, maybe it is a demon that's coming to me tonight and putting me in this sleep paralysis narrative.
	You know, maybe, I don't know.
	I'm just throwing it out there, you know, so.
	I'm really glad you brought up the man in black because, ironically, I've been doing a lot of research on the hat man because I'm trying to figure him out and I kind of thought I had come to a conclusion and then I saw something recently that threw me off and I'm like, oh, maybe it's this guy.
	So I still have a lot of questions about the hat man.
	I only saw him once as a child and I actually saw him in my brother's room and it wasn't until recently because my brother had night terrors and he sleptwalk as a kid And I had had a bad dream and my mom came and got me and I said, can I sleep with you and dad?
	I'm scared.
	And she said, no, do you want to sleep with your brother?
	And like, I was probably four.
	I'm like, yeah.
	And so we went into his room and it was just the moonlight was coming in through his window and in the swath of moonlight on his carpet, the hat man was laying.
	And just, you know, staring at me with his blank face, right?
	Because you never see his face.
	But for years and years and years, I thought, I saw the hat man.
	I saw the hat man.
	And then it dawned on me, I think that was my brother's hat man.
	I think that I stumbled into his room.
	I think that was attached to his night tears.
	But it's interesting that you bring up the man in black, because I recently watched The movie The Dark Tower, Matthew McConaughey.
	Oh man, Matthew McConaughey and the, oh my, the gunslinger?
	Yeah, the gunslinger.
	So, and again, here's another way they gaslight you into thinking.
	They call him Walter.
	I mean, come on, come on, you know, like, you know, and he's not, he's not the devil.
	He's, he's like a thrall.
	And he's, he's not wearing a hat in it, but it dawned on me at one point, I wonder if that's what the hat man is.
	I wonder if the hat man is Walter.
	He's this guy that comes in to... He's the contractor or the surveyor.
	He's the one that comes in with the clipboard to make sure everything's on track, right?
	A watcher.
	Yeah, the watcher, so to speak.
	And so he's also the one that's vulnerable to the gunslinger because the big guy is behind closed doors, he can't get to him.
	But it was interesting to me that that movie and that multiverse uses the term the man in black because we've already been programmed by the media that the men in black are... that has to do with aliens and government cover-ups, right?
	Now all of a sudden you have this dark tower which is You know, I've got all sorts of theories about that.
	I won't go off on a tangent, but there's tons of stuff in in that Dark Tower movie about the pre-watchers coming down Hermann existence and what that tower is, et cetera, et cetera.
	But yeah, the man in black, the hat man.
	But again, we go back to this theme that all of these sleep paralysis characters, and even to an extent, the alien greys are made out to be silly.
	You know, the alien greys, when you talk to people who have actually encountered them, you hear a different story, But in the mainstream, they're these goofy little things with big eyes and they're giggling and whispering to each other.
	If you see them, they waddle off like penguins.
	They just make everything out to be so silly and non-consequential.
	This is just a bunch of crazy people.
	They're on psychedelics, whatever.
	They tapped into something.
	They play with Ouija boards.
	They do everything to just make these Very serious, top-level, like, I think some of these things that we see are demons.
	They are these disembodied spirits of Nephilim, and you can pass them away with the word, with, you know, name of Jesus, and they're gone.
	But several of these things are very high-level.
	Archons, principalities, etc, etc.
	And the way that they disguise themselves as just these silly little clowns and jesters that nobody has to take seriously.
	Just go and get a nice medication for your sleep or take some melatonin and you'll be fine.
	Nothing here to see.
	It's interesting the account with the hat man and your brother.
	I was going to ask that earlier.
	That's another question.
	Family sleep paralysis.
	Anything to do with your family?
	So you mentioned your brother had some knot tears.
	And you're talking about the hat man with the moon encounter.
	I'm not, I'm just making a point.
	You know, the moon, is there something to do with the moon when these things come out in, in, in the location where you was at the time that you started having these sleep paralysis, uh, you know, all these different things that's happening at the age of three.
	I'm all about location.
	And then I'm all about family tree, military applications with family history, Navy Academy, whatever ancestral DNA.
	I kind of go down some rabbit hoes.
	I.
	You know, welcome to Spiritual Warfare Friday!
	I love it!
	But yeah, I don't know if that makes sense.
	I hope that does.
	You know, can you elaborate to that and kind of collaborate all together maybe, you know?
	I don't really, it's just an overall general question.
	Hopefully I didn't overstep there.
	I didn't want to interrupt you.
	No, no, absolutely not.
	So these are some great, great points.
	And I think too, another reason why a lot of people have trouble kind of getting to the bottom of their sleep paralysis is because they stumble upon an open door that legitimately is an open door and they close it, but then they still have it.
	And that's not because it was ineffective or God doesn't love you or you're irreparably unsaved.
	What it means is most of us have multiple doors open and you have to find several of them and close them.
	It's a little bit of a scavenger hunt.
	And so you brought up several key things.
	I do want to say something briefly about the moon.
	As far as being harassed by entities and the moon, we know that in antiquity they worshipped moon gods.
	One of the more popular ones in the scripture that most of us will be familiar with is the god Sin, which is spelled S-I-N, so a lot of people pronounce it Sin, but it's the god Sin.
	The people at Jericho worshipped a moon god, which is why, if you read the details of that scripture, the day that they walked around seven times shouting and blowing the shofars and the walls came tumbling down, you can tell because of where Passover is located, and Passover always is at the 14th of the month, which is when the moon is full.
	So, in other words, the moon is in full power, it's in full strength.
	And that's when the walls came down.
	And it was, you know, God saying, I'm more powerful than your God.
	Even when your moon God is in full strength, I was able to crack your tower down.
	And so I'm familiar with Islam, too, with their moon God.
	Yes, the crescent moon.
	Yep.
	So what's interesting about this whole moon is the link that it has to the lunatic spirit.
	Right.
	So in the Gospels, There's a story about the little boy who throws himself into the fire, and the father takes him to Jesus.
	In one of the narratives, Jesus asks some extra questions, and he asks the father, how long has this been happening?
	And he said, since childhood.
	So in other words, he wasn't born with it.
	It's not some sort of genetic disease.
	At some point in childhood, this child started exhibiting this behavior.
	And in the first century, when they were still synchronizing their religion with false religions and worshiping moon gods, if at any point this boy had been taken to a
	Ritual or a solstice ritual or anything or even if the father had because the father can carry home these things And as soon as you know, the patriarch comes over the threshold having given invitation I always tell people these entities don't necessarily attack the most sinful person in the house.
	They attack the most vulnerable They attack the one who's the least able to protect themselves What's really fascinating about that section in scripture, if you ever go to Bible Hub or one of these online Bibles where it has all the translations on the same page, in one translation, the father's telling Jesus, my son has epilepsy.
	And in another translation, it says, my son often has seizures.
	And as you get down and down into the more arcane translations, in one translation, he says, my son is a lunatic.
	And in one translation it says, my son has an epilepsy demon.
	And precursor, just apologies before I state this.
	I'm not one of these people that thinks every single person in the world who's ever had a seizure or who has epilepsy is demon possessed, okay?
	Don't put more words in my mouth than what I'm saying.
	But there is, in the past, you know, 3,200 years ago, they believed in a very specific type of epilepsy.
	It was called Benue epilepsy.
	So it was one specific type of epilepsy, and I think that's what's being described in the scriptures here with this boy.
	It's seizures that are a symptom and a side effect of a harassing spirit.
	And there was a cuneiform tablet found in like 2019, 2017, something like that.
	3,200 years old, it was a medical tablet.
	And it was talking about this Bennu epilepsy demon and how they believed.
	Now the way they spun it in the news was, look at these ancient people that were so silly that they thought epilepsy was caused by a demon.
	That's not what the tablet was saying.
	What the tablet was saying is it was identifying Banu, this very specific type of demon who would manifest in seizures.
	So you have to kind of read through all of the misinformation there to get to the true story.
	But Long way of explaining that I really do think that the moon still has something to do with it.
	You know, we have all these jokes about the full moon and werewolves and all of that, but the moon gods, just because we don't care about them in America and we don't study them and we don't know who they are and we don't have alters to them, these demons and these gods, they don't go away.
	You know, just because they were mentioned in the Old Testament, they don't grow old and die or retire to Boca Raton, right?
	They're still around, and there's still people out there with knowledge who are worshipping these things and conjuring these things up on high levels.
	And it seems silly, but there are times if I'm going through particular types of warfare or if I'm having a lot of sleep disturbances or whatever, I will make note.
	I have a little app on my phone that has the moon phase for that reason.
	And if it's a solstice especially, if it's an equinox, if there's an eclipse, if there's a particular holiday.
	And I always tell people it does not hurt, if you're going to take spiritual warfare seriously, it does not hurt to understand the days of the year that are important, charged dates, ritual dates, festival dates.
	Because there's certain dates that I'll get all my emails.
	All these dreams.
	There's certain dates where I'll get all the emails at the same time of people who are having all the sleep paralysis.
	And so, because I have knowledge of a lot of the dates, I can write them back and say, well, you know, it was Walpurgisnacht or whatever.
	And you know, there was a ritual.
	And so on realdarknews.com I have this, every month I put out a calendar and I call it Pray Away the Levee, it's a little play on words, and it's got as many occult holidays listed as possible so that you're aware of them and you can be praying over them and you can be praying for the protection of children on those days, etc, etc.
	Yeah like I tell everybody all the time it's like you know some people just pass it off as a joke or just say oh it doesn't affect me well guess what it does because the occult take these holidays very seriously from the time dates rituals especially with star alignments and I'm sorry astrological events on these certain dates and everything they take these things wicked seriously
	Like all the time when we expose certain things we'll show the satanic strolls of the holidays and you know different levels of satanism and different levels of witchcraft and what they do on these certain dates the rituals they do and uh the sacrifices and all that and because again these the elite they take this stuff seriously so there are a lot of emanating powers out there um these surging powers of demons and all that out there doing this stuff
	So, like you said, people contact you at a certain time because at any certain date something's happening, which increases these demonic spirits and everything else.
	It's crazy stuff, man.
	But yeah, this is self-expression spiritual warfare.
	Like Vicky said, this stuff needs to be taken seriously.
	And unfortunately, and I don't mean to poop on the churches all the time, but they're not teaching the stuff no more.
	They just bypass it and it's unfortunate.
	I'm sorry to interrupt again.
	I want your take on this, Vicky and Dan.
	We've talked about a lot of wide variety topics on Spiritual Warfare Friday, but this one, it goes right along with what you're speaking of tonight.
	So you're talking about age three, you started having these encounters with all these different entities and everything going on with sleep paralysis.
	First thing that dawned on me was shaman.
	To clarify and get into the shamanism.
	Shamanism, I remember very clearly, they talk about spiritual applications and knowledge about the spirits that come to you.
	And it's an adolescence time frame period, right?
	So, you know, they do all kinds of different, you know, I guess we'll just say ayahuasca, LSD, DMT, everything, all kinds of different things.
	to provoke it.
	It's kind of interesting that starts at like an adolescence standpoint, and then you're sleep deprived.
	You're talking about sleep being sleep deprived, right?
	So it's all these different things.
	You're having these disruptions.
	You're not getting all your really good night's sleep.
	So I just thought it was interesting to bring that up.
	You know, I mean, I know it's usually a man, And I just thought, well, that's what they used to in the ancient days.
	But I want to throw this out here.
	What if.
	What if all this stuff is going on?
	There's military applications, abductions and everything.
	And they do these things to see how to test on these individuals at adolescence, you know, real young age.
	And then when they grow to a certain age, that's why you see these missing people going wrong, right?
	And there's people like, I'm on medication.
	I'm trying to, I got these demons in my head.
	I'm on medication.
	I've got, you know, declare I'm ADHD.
	You're always, you know, all these different symptoms, right?
	And they'll put them all kinds of medication.
	And then they'll, like you said, they'll go to churches and everything, and they'll be like, oh yeah, you're just, you know, you're just making stuff up, you know?
	And then all of a sudden they just go, poof, it's over.
	They disappeared or vanished or whatever the narrative is.
	And it just kind of reminds me of that, the shamanisms and the shamanism.
	I don't know if you want to comment on that.
	I don't know if that kind of goes along with it, the spiritual education.
	So what do you think about that?
	I mean, it's just the first thing I thought of, you know, is it a military application on top of the sleep paralysis with the abductions and they're waiting and monitoring people and using these demonic entities, these hat men, men in black.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Men in black.
	Cause the men in black show up, right?
	In the physical, they show up in a horse and buggy back in the day.
	And now it's like a Cadillac from not 1952.
	And you know, then, you know, you know, all these different phases and then there's.
	Yeah, and there's people going missing.
	I mean, I just, I just, I don't know.
	It was just a thought.
	I had to write it down.
	So, I definitely think that there's more than one group involved in this.
	I think some of it can be purely spiritual from the astral realm.
	It can be a demonic type of a thing.
	I think that there's the pharmakia.
	Aspect, where you can open up doors.
	And it doesn't just have to be psychedelics, you guys.
	Anytime you're in an altered state of consciousness, you guys have probably seen, it's this huge popular thing on TikTok.
	Maybe it's, you know, it's passe now because things change so quickly.
	But kids were OD'ing on Benadryl because they wanted to see the hat man.
	So Benadryl, man.
	Benadryl.
	That's all it takes.
	Military, definitely.
	If you're from a military family, if you are a part of a generational line, like generational Satanism, and I'm talking top tier, like Satanism, It's not the satanic temple where you get a little membership card you keep in your wallet and everybody wears their Metallica t-shirts and paints their nails black and all that silly crap.
	I'm talking about high-level, generational satanists.
	A real satanist will never, ever, ever, ever let you know.
	The generational satanists are teaching your kids Sunday school and I'm not joking.
	They're the ones in the three-piece suits That can quote Scripture right and left.
	I mean, you're never going to know who the real occultists are.
	So if you're entangled with a generational Satanist, or you're part of a family, It can also have to do with secret society memberships, and if ancestors have prayed their lineage over to these gods, so it can have to do with secret societies.
	It can also, I think, have to do with bloodlines, so if you get all the way back, let's get back to the seed war, let's get back to the seed of Cain and the seed of Seth.
	I have a theory, this is a total just theory, I could be completely wrong, but I've noticed that There's three basic groups of sleep paralysis sufferers, and I'm not talking to the people that just had it once or twice, but the people that have had it their whole life.
	There's three basic categories.
	The one category is people that become intrigued and they start searching out their gifts and they get very entrenched in New Age and in Council of Eight, Council of Nine and Akashic Records and Astral Protection and all that.
	Then you've got the people that are scared to death of it and they run into the arms of Jesus and they become very, very religious and they become very aware of spiritual warfare and things like that.
	And then you've got this third kind of group where I call this like the So, in the occult, when they do trauma-based mind control and when they're trying to split off someone into multiples and things like that, and they go through all of the ritual abuse.
	There are children who have these high intelligent levels, and they are able to dissociate, and they create alters, and they're the survivors, so they're the successors.
	But there's also kids that you don't hear about that can't dissociate, and so they break.
	And this is where the term breaking bad comes from.
	That TV show, that has nothing to do with what breaking bad really is.
	Breaking bad is you are trying to use trauma-based mind control to create, you know, one of these super soldiers.
	And if it doesn't work and they're unable to dissociate and they literally lose their minds, they break bad.
	So in sleep paralysis, you also have the breaking bad people.
	These are the people that get on all sorts of medication.
	They get all sorts of sleep deprivation and they're the ones that tend to not do well.
	So with the two outlying characters, you know, you've got the ones that go into New Age and you've got the ones that go into Christianity or spirituality.
	This is my theory.
	I believe That they have an MO.
	They're targeting certain children for a reason.
	And, you know, the military might have reasons and, you know, the movies always say that they're looking for precogs.
	So, like, do they have gifts, you know, or whatnot.
	But what I think that they're... I think it's a two-fold agenda with these children that get attacked early on.
	I think that you are of a bloodline, whether you realize it or not.
	You are either of an ancient Nephilim bloodline, a descendant, and you belong to them, and you're part of the family, and you're going to be in the family business, right?
	And they're training and grooming their descendants for their agenda, and they're gathering their army, and they're training.
	But then I think the ones that are getting attacked and tormented and traumatized and the targeted individuals, the ones that aren't getting all the nice gifts and perks, right?
	They're not getting pulled up into the astral and getting all the free astral sex they want and all of the prophecies that make them look like they, you know, can read minds and all this.
	If you're just being straight up tormented, From the people that I've talked to, if you really start delving in and probing and asking some of these questions like you were just asking a few minutes ago about, well, what about the moon and where were you living at the time and what about your family?
	It appears to me that the seed of the Davidic line is being targeted.
	So if you have ancestral ties to The bloodline of King David, who God has covenanted with and promised to bless, and who the Messiah is coming through, and he's promised that he would bless that generation forever.
	That's the thorn in the enemy's side, is this bloodline of King David.
	And there are people out there that claim they are of the bloodline of David, the royal family, etc, etc.
	That all goes into Grail mythology and the Holy Grail and Jesus and Mary Magdalene having blood descendants and all that stuff.
	But if you take all the Masonic stuff aside and the actual seed of David, I do think that they are being targeted.
	And it says in the book of Daniel that in the end, the beast, this enemy, is going to wear out the saints.
	And so I think that this is one way that he's targeting and wearing out the saints, and not just the saints, but also specifically the bloodline that God specifically covenanted with that he wants destroyed.
	And could also generational curses, could that attribute to sleep paralysis?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	And, you know, the thing with generational curses is there are branches of Christianity that have gone haywire in all sorts of curse, like, you know, dogma, right?
	But What really worries me, you guys, is there is a lot of ancient witchcraft sneaking into the church and all you have to do is give it a pretty little biblical name and nobody suspects anything, right?
	But some of this stuff that we are doing right in the foyer of the church, is ancient witchcraft stuff and even some of the stuff that we do like when we go to our friend and say I prayed and God told me to tell you this and like a lot of that if if you really study ancient Roman augury which was a type of divination where you would go to the temple and they would have like one of their venerated black stones and
	They would consult the stone over who to elect into certain seats and who should get married and who should have this settling judicial disputes and things like that.
	And I'm seeing this trend in Christianity where a lot of prayer and prophecy is really just extremely whitewashed augury and divination.
	And are we unwittingly putting each other under condemnation or undercurses when we are partaking in these things that are really just bastardizations of ancient augury and witchcraft.
	We've really got to be more discerning in the dogmas and the teachings that we're bringing into the church.
	Oh yeah.
	Witchcraft, especially in new age, is massively infiltrated into churches and everything else.
	And I don't live too far from Salem, Mass.
	They have a group out there.
	It sounds ridiculous, but they call themselves Christian Witches, which is how oxymoronic that sounds.
	Then you got the New Age Christians, which is another oxymoronic thing.
	You know, so I don't know how you can serve two masters.
	Yeah, whatever the case.
	I'm sorry, Brian.
	No, I didn't mean to interrupt you.
	This is going to kind of sound gross, but it goes along with the moon worship and the God You know, you were mentioning the god Sin, I think that's how you pronounced it.
	I remember reading, I don't know what civilization it was, I can't remember if it was Mayan, Mecca, just don't hang me from that folks.
	Mesopotamian?
	Yeah, Mesopotamian, I don't know, but I remember, you know, he's talking about summer solstice, equinox and all that.
	I want to bring this up, Vicky, about, I'm not trying to get too gross on here, but menstrual blood of women.
	I remember seeing a lot of evidence of this.
	They would literally Gather up all the women and put them in these basement cellars and do nefarious things.
	I don't even want to talk about it, it's so dark.
	It reminds me of what you're talking about, moon worship, because it was to do with moon god worship, so the menstrual blood of women.
	Basically, is it opening up some kind of invisible gate, portal, something to that effect?
	You know, there's something harnessing, there's frequencies, all this stuff that's radiating around it.
	And there's, you know, we know the life is in the blood.
	It's just interesting that I just want to kind of make that point.
	If there's anything you know about that, I don't know.
	Absolutely, absolutely.
	And I'm glad you brought it up because it is gross, but it is 100% on point.
	Someone who has written extensively on this, as I'm sure you guys have heard of, Gary Wayne.
	And in his book, The Genesis Six Conspiracy, which I absolutely love.
	It's one of my favorite books.
	And part two is coming out in March.
	Yep, yep, it's on pre-order, coming out March.
	But he writes about this, that a lot of these, we know about a lot of these things because the movies have shown us, but in the movies it's wine, like they'll have these ceremonies or these rituals and they're drinking the wine.
	A lot of times wine is the scrubbed up modern version of what used to be blood, and the blood was Typically, the menstrual blood.
	Now, it was a very typical or a very specific type of blood.
	Originally, it had to be from the royal family.
	It had to be a virgin princess from the royal line or that sort of a thing.
	I'm probably pronouncing this wrong, but Ninkershag was this one.
	Sounds good.
	Sounds right.
	Right?
	This Ninkershag had to be appeased.
	She was sort of like the goddess of these dragon courts who would be Doing these blood-drinking rituals would be appeasing and etc, etc.
	But yeah, so much of this stuff, it has to do with the womb.
	The chalice is always symbolic of the womb and you see it in all of the architecture in DC and in Rome and all of the domes and the obelisks and all this.
	It really is juvenile, you guys.
	You've got these people that are basically trying to take over and run the world.
	They're trying to fulfill the five I wills of Lucifer.
	They're thinking that they are going to develop this technology and literally storm the throne room and take the scepter from God.
	That's who we're dealing with.
	But if you break down all of their literature, their theology, their rituals, It's all, it's like, was this written by a 15 year old boy?
	It's all just body parts and sex and it's, it's like, it's literally like Beavis and Butthead came up with this stuff.
	I mean, it's just ridiculous how juvenile it all is.
	Then they'll criticize us because we talk about the savior.
	Yeah.
	And by the way, guys, like, um, people want to know what the moon, God, sin they're talking about.
	So, sin is a Mesopotamian religion.
	The god of the moon, sin was the father of the sun god, Shamash, and it was a Sumerian religion.
	And some myths, Isha, Sumerian goddess of Venus, and there was formed the astral tirade of Deedee.
	So, a bunch of Deedee's formed out of this.
	Sin is considered the member of the special class of Mesopotamian gods called the Anunnaki.
	There's a keyword Anunnaki, which we know the Anunnaki are who?
	Fallen angels.
	There you go.
	That says it right there.
	I want to point something out too.
	This goes along with a lot of my research as far as Nephilim and giants.
	Have you seen where like in all kinds of different cultures and different civilizations, Vicki, where it has like it's like these little circle cylinder tunnels where they'll have like this dark room that you go into like a cave system and it looks like an incubator and they'll they'll take a little child in there you know, adolescents under 12 and they'll literally like traumatize.
	It's almost like MK ultra.
	It almost makes you think of stranger things, right?
	But like incubating, like in literally keeping them into like that deprived state of like sleep paralysis.
	I mean, sleep paralysis, right?
	And all this demonic, it's almost like opening doors.
	And then when they come out, they literally are basically summoning, somehow it's summoning in this, you know, like entity from ancient Samaritan, whatever.
	And they'll name it from the ancient name, right?
	So here's one that, here's where it's going to be like a mic drop.
	So I started thinking about this while we're having this conversation.
	So if it's like inky bears back in the day, isn't it kind of ironic That AI and everything is going to this point where they're having incubators for children, and you don't even have to have any kind of woman or man even involved.
	Isn't it the same concept, folks?
	And so if you think about that, and literally look at the AI narrative, the incubators, and that concept, and I think there's a short time, I think the I think the AI and everything can like make I think the child can grow quicker if I'm not mistaken that you know I think even in a nine month period I don't know if I think it's quicker I keep hearing four months for some reason and then the one other thing to throw in there I think it was China just this year
	Or 2022 or maybe this year, 2022, they have come out successfully made sperm, like out of thin air.
	I mean, literally on a synthetic level, like not even have a man supposedly no genetic material, just out of thin air making sperm.
	So here we are folks.
	I mean, it literally, like you mentioned earlier, uh, Dan with the Anunnaki.
	We're there literally there among, there's something amongst us, the evil entity, there's evil entities around the monk right now.
	That's why the world's turned upside down.
	And I think there's something going to be so sinister in the future as far as, you know, being able to, you can do gene drives, change the way your child dies, or the, you know, the fistic, muscular stature, all those different things.
	We're looking in the days of know here, folks.
	Vicki, I want to know your take on that with the incubators and how you feel about that.
	I don't know if you, if you know anything about it, that'd be great because I don't know.
	I do.
	I really appreciate it.
	So first of all, guys, the media is run.
	By the same tactic as we know the serpent in the garden.
	He told a lot of truth, but he wove lies through it.
	So when you read stuff in the paper like, China created sperm out of thin air.
	Okay, I believe that they could produce a sample of sperm.
	Okay?
	I don't believe that they created it in a lab out of thin air.
	I believe that they probably extracted it from something, okay?
	So they got it somewhere.
	And so if you look at what happened in the days of Noah, which is going to happen again, when you had demigods, you had angel DNA mixing with human DNA, and now all of a sudden China's got this mystery sperm that came out of nowhere, right?
	It didn't come out of nowhere.
	We know where it came out of.
	And God only knows what spawn that sperm is going to lead to.
	But with the incubators, this is what I think about those things.
	Now, they say that this is just all speculative.
	It's way in the future.
	They don't have this perfected yet.
	Baloney, you know.
	As soon as they're telling you about something, it's been around for 50 years at least, right?
	So with these incubators, What makes me nervous is if you're just handing over genetic material, okay, maybe you're going to use that in your little science experiment, maybe you're not.
	Maybe you're going to take my egg and you're going to throw the sperm out and you're going to use your special made-it-out-of-thin-air sperm, right?
	What I wondered, the first time I read about that incubator thing, this is the way my mind works, I thought, This is how they're going to get three strand DNA.
	Because now it's outside of your control and your womb.
	And I think I even saw an article recently where the first baby was conceived or born with three DNAs.
	So it had had a man and a woman and then a third party.
	So it's a three, whatever.
	Was that Mexico?
	That's Mexico, I believe.
	I thought it was England, but don't quote me.
	Well, forgive me.
	I didn't mean to trip you up.
	Who knows?
	But the thing with the three-star DNA is our DNA is reflective of the image of God, because God created us.
	And so our DNA, as is, is a reflection of the fingerprint of God.
	And so when we start messing with that, my theory is that they're trying to put their image into us.
	So they're wanting the DNA to reflect their image.
	And if they are successful with that, if they wait until the current generations are gone and now we have a planet full of people with this third-strand DNA, when the Anunnaki come back and say, we're your progenitors, they'll actually be telling the truth at that point, right?
	Oh, that was out of the UK, I'm sorry.
	UK, yeah.
	That's what I thought.
	So the thing with the DNA, and not to get all poetic and philosophical on you guys, but I just find it beautiful.
	They have shown now that there are bridges between the two DNA strands.
	So when you've got the DNA strand, there's bridges that connect the two strands, and they follow a pattern.
	And it's like 12, 6, 5, 6.
	So every 12 proteins, there's a bridge.
	Then every 6, there's a bridge.
	Every 5, there's a bridge.
	Every 6, there's a bridge.
	And if you go into the numerology of that, and I know numerology and gametria can be a loaded word, but we know from Scripture that numbers mean things.
	We know 70 means something.
	We know 12 means something.
	God is a very mathematical creator, right?
	The 12656 corresponds to the letters in the Hebrew alphabet, Yod-Heh-Vav-Heh.
	And so our DNA, through the bridges, literally does have this fingerprint.
	It's almost like the autograph or the artist's signature on our DNA.
	And so when we start talking about modifying our mRNA and things like that, On top of a host of potential scientific and medical and physiological disasters that could come out of that, from a spiritual standpoint, look, I know I'm falling, I know I'm getting older every year, and there's plenty of things that could be improved upon with the human heart, soul, and mind, right?
	But if you mess with my DNA, you are potentially destroying that signature.
	And so, I don't want that signature destroyed.
	And so, it doesn't matter if what they're promising us is true or false.
	It doesn't matter if... I mean, I do believe that if they are permitted, they will come up with ways where people can live Twice as long, three times as long, and be beautiful and young, and their hair won't gray, and we won't get wrinkles.
	I mean, obviously they're going to be able to come up with that.
	I think they did it in the past.
	But to what exchange?
	I think I will take the wrinkles and the gray hair over what I'm losing.
	I have a theory.
	This will go for your... L.A.
	Marzulli would like this probably.
	This is up L.A.
	Marzulli territory here.
	But this is at my... I love looking at Indian mounds, giants, and all this.
	I have this thing that I've been setting on since we're having this conversation.
	Mounds.
	150 years ago was 150 years ago they started deploying let's just say let's just say something that can be placed into your well you like you said the mRNA that's almost safe so for the sake of this video and this broadcast I don't want Dan to get hit with a strike.
	So isn't it kind of ironic that it's like 100 and something years ago well you know let's just say for fun and here you know if you look at the stuff in the 1800s in America culture you know you got Abraham Lincoln and got all this data that they was excavating mounds doing military applications
	Any kind of ironic that, uh, just recently, not too long ago, you know, we had this, you know, the last three years has been kind of a little bizarre and there's a place, there's a place where they, they deploy and make these, uh, MRNA, uh, Astra, you know what I mean?
	That's all I'm going to say.
	You, everybody in the audience can fill in the gap there.
	There's a mound in the backyard.
	There's a mound in the backyard.
	And it was, you know, me and an old friend, uh, looked at this data and it was a little excavation around the same time that we were deploying the you know just a little sauce so if you want to think about that and tie it all in together 150 plus year was 158 years ago you look at all the narratives nephilim dna just free to grab all the military applications boom boom boom boom boom and then all of a sudden we have
	Customers, we have hybridization programs, military applications, and this is way before the JFK assassination folks, and we're looking at like Lockheed Martin, all this stuff and all the above, and I mean, make your brain hurt, UFO phenomenon, big influx around that time frame, Niagara Falls.
	I could go on and on, Vicki, but what's your take on that?
	Because I just wanted to bring that up.
	Because what if, what if it is?
	What if that's the big, what if that's the What if that's the dark horse of all of it?
	You know, the Smithsonian, let's make it disappear.
	Men in black show up, take all the mounds, take all the contents of the mounds, take all the, you know, radiation standpoint, whatever it is, the MF reading.
	You don't want to have any evidence at all.
	The Nephilim walked the earth.
	Okay.
	What if it is as it was in the days of Noah and they're extracting the DNA from the mounds and then deploying it on the, on the, you know, basically the population, the great decree, everything folks, this is, I mean, come on, am I reaching?
	I don't know.
	Is it a rabbit hole that we probably don't need to go down tonight?
	But, Vicki, what do you think about that?
	I love what you just said.
	I've actually been working all month on my next book, which is a totally different topic than sleep paralysis, and I've got to kind of keep it under wraps, but this is kind of falling in line with some stuff that is touching the outer edges of the things that I've been reading.
	When we talk about this AI, and I'll just make it abundantly clear, I'm not a Ludite, you guys.
	I mean, I'm on a laptop right now over Wi-Fi with earbuds in, right?
	I'm not, you know, one of these people that's gonna live off-grid, trembling with fear and straining my urine through a straw and all this stuff, right?
	Like, I live in the world and I'm not afraid of the world.
	I'm gonna use technology to advance the gospel, etc, etc.
	But with that said, when you start talking about some of the things that this technology is accomplishing, what it's capable of doing, the potential sentience of it that it may one day have and some might already have, if you really look at this technology, We as consumers are thought to think of technology as convenience and entertainment.
	I love going online and watching all the old TV shows and commercials and stuff from the 1950s and stuff, and the commercials in the 1950s for the kitchen of the future, and it's a woman in a dress and heels, and it's this With all these features and it looks ancient now, right?
	But this fascination that we have with the World's Fairs and all of this technology, it's always about innovation, saving time, ease, convenience, and now entertainment because it's all apps for gaming and things like that.
	I don't think this has anything to do with making things more easy and convenient or fun for human beings.
	This is infrastructure.
	And Satan is not omniscient.
	He's not omnipresent.
	He's not all-knowing.
	And so he has to create infrastructure to mimic even just a small like I mean he's not even getting close to mimicking the sovereignty of God or the omniscience or the omnipresence of God but to a human being you know you look at this with GPS and uh with the internet of things and now how um Let me just sidetrack for one second, guys.
	You know how we were all so alarmed, you know, maybe four or five years ago when we started recognizing that our smart TVs and our tablets and stuff were sending us advertisements for things that we were talking about in our living room?
	And people were denying it first, and now we just take it for granted.
	But this has actually started happening to me now.
	It's happened to me two or three times.
	in in recent months.
	I will have a dream about something.
	It'll be like a certain person or celebrity or something will show up in my dream.
	And I'll wake up and I won't say a word and my Instagram feed is jammed with stories on that celebrity or their movies or whatever.
	And I'm like, you've got to be kidding me.
	They're now even linking it to my non-conscious.
	This is manufactured omniscience.
	It's technological omnipresence.
	I know where you are.
	I can find you anywhere.
	I know what you're thinking.
	I know what you're dreaming about.
	I know what you're looking at.
	I know what you want to buy.
	And so all of this, it has nothing to do with our convenience or our shopping pleasure or our entertainment.
	They are building an infrastructure that is allowing them through smoke and mirrors to appear to simple-minded human beings as if they are gods.
	And all we'd have to do is pull the plug on them, and it would go away.
	But because they're brilliant in what they do, they have woven into the circuitry Every single thing that we need to survive at this point.
	So if we pull the plug on them, we pull the plug on our whole society.
	You know, everyone's talking about these EMPs and stuff like that.
	If we pull the plug on the devil's infrastructure, a couple months ago I went to the DMV to get my driver's license renewed.
	And their Wi-Fi went down.
	It wasn't even their computer system.
	Their Wi-Fi went down.
	They had to close the store for two days because their computers didn't work, the printer, everything was on Wi-Fi.
	So they've sort of brilliantly created this ticking time bomb where we can't pull the blue or the red wire because if we do, yeah, we shut them off.
	We shut our entire our entire infrastructure is now plugged into this beast system.
	Like, how do we unentangle ourselves from it at this point?
	Hey, Vicki, did you have McDonald's as a kid?
	Oh, yeah, I did, too.
	I ate enough chicken nuggets.
	I'd probably bust out a 50-piece nugget, man.
	And then that's all I would eat.
	My dietary supplement, that's about pretty much what it was, was chicken nuggets and french fries 24-7.
	So, you know, we're talking about 80s and 90s here.
	Let's just say we, we was consumers, right?
	And customers at the same point.
	So I'm, I'm kind of making a little fun there and a little, little kind of plug in, but that there's a thing to that.
	There's a mapping out of data and all kinds of stuff, but we're not gonna go down there.
	Cause I'm not gonna get hit with a strike.
	So here's another thing.
	Um, you said you had this, uh, sorry, Dan, would you gonna say something?
	No, I was going to say when they redirect back to the sleep process.
	Yeah, well, real quick.
	Yeah, sure.
	One thing and I'll stop.
	I'll stop asking so many questions.
	Wi-Fi routers, right?
	You're talking about this sleep and you're having a dream that all of a sudden it comes up on your Instagram account.
	Any kind of interesting that Wi-Fi is like.
	It's just basically like, you know, your broad, well, it's obviously broad brand and then you got, uh, you know, fiber optic cables, but what if, what if the wifi routers are actually projecting and there's data in the air?
	We're talking about, you know, literally air, the airwaves, right?
	So if you can extract it and it can go into the person, cause if you get the router in your home, Could I be reaching there too?
	That's a little theory I have.
	Could there be information freely just given in the air?
	Just throwing it out there.
	That could go on with the sleep paralysis.
	So there you go.
	Yeah, I'm getting tongue-tied.
	So this is what it made me think of.
	I have a friend who was in the Marines several years ago, and he was in the radio battalion.
	And he told me that they would occasionally intercept radio messages from World War II.
	Oh my goodness, no, no!
	It gets stuck up there, right?
	No, shut the show down!
	Oh man, Vicki, come on, continue on, I'm gonna make a note here.
	Okay, so in theory, and I'm gonna tie this back into the sleep paralysis now, too.
	Anytime I try to outwit these sleep paralysis entities, they're like, oh really?
	Oh really?
	And they'll one-up me, right?
	So I admit, I'm not real good at night about shutting off my laptop and my phone and putting them in another room or putting them in a blocket pocket or whatever.
	I mean, sometimes I'm just lazy and I don't do it.
	So one night, And I hadn't even been having sleep disturbances or anything, but I'm just like, you know what?
	I'm taking my laptop and my phone.
	I'm putting them in the pocket pockets.
	I'm putting them in the other room.
	So I actually did like the right thing that night, right?
	And I got all of the Wi-Fi stuff away from me.
	And that night I had sleep paralysis for the first time in about eight years.
	And I was like, what?
	So I don't think they need the Wi-Fi and all of that.
	But it does make me You know, there are so many scriptures that talk about, it's like, what's that word about, so thinketh a man, whatsoever man thinketh, so he is, or it's something to that effect.
	And there's all of these things about, we know that God, okay, the enemy wants to mimic everything God can do.
	We know that God captures every thought because he said one day we're going to be accountable before him on judgment day for every thought, every word, every deed, everything we said, even everything we spoke foolishly or in jest.
	So we know that God can collect that data.
	God knows how to collect thoughts and
	If that means that our thoughts somehow turn into energy or matter or goes off into the ether or if it's collectible in some way, it would not be a stretch of my imagination if they have figured out on the technological and military side of things, if they have figured out how to capture thoughts
	that they would then use them against us in nocturnal attacks.
	You know, they can, because, you know, even in 1984, you know, you've got the room 101 and room 101 is different to anybody.
	It's whatever your biggest fear is, is what's behind that door.
	And isn't it interesting that your nightmares are sort of tailor made to you?
	Now they'll say that's because it's your, it's your non-conscious mind defragging.
	Uh, but you know, Most of my nightmares revolve around the same three things and it's things that if it happened in real life I'd probably be afraid of and I have other dreams that would be terrifying to other people but they're not terrifying to me because I'm not scared of that and so it does make me wonder if they're able to collect this data and Nowadays, they don't even need really sophisticated technology to know what we're thinking.
	I mean, most human beings are thinking about the same five or six things all day long anyway, right?
	But with social media, and with all day long, we're texting, we're talking to our friends, we're sending video chats, we're online, we're putting pictures, we're taking pictures, all the enemy would have to do is have access to our phone and he'd have 90% of us figured out.
	Right?
	So to then turn that into a weapon to weaponize that information in our dreams.
	I mean, I would just think that that would be a really simple matter.
	Yeah, especially the account you was talking about, if they're able to pick up communications so simple and you said World War II, what was that account with the friend you had that was able to pick up communication from World War II communication?
	What year was that?
	That was two, give me a second, 2009, 10, 11, something like that.
	That's still current.
	But yeah, I think there's something very nefarious going on here.
	You know, it's...
	I don't want to go on a big rabbit hole, but the sleep paralysis thing, I think all this stuff is intertwined with alien abductions, military applications, and if they're able to do something like that, it reminds me of the Montauk Project, all these different, Philadelphia Experiment, all this stuff could be tied in together, and it could be all tied around the JFK conspiracy.
	Because all those, we just did a program just not too long ago, it was literally just Sunday.
	I think it's all tied into that.
	The DARPA, all the military applications, and all the beast system that we're in today, telecommunications, all this.
	There's so much, the UFO stuff, it's all tied into one big...
	Focal point and I think that I mean, it's just my point, but I'm rambling here, but continue on forgive me.
	Yeah, absolutely I won't like I found some videos here in the tech talk So while you mentioned the hat man and all that I want to bring this up to date because this is um, you know one of the propaganda tools they use social media and all that to get people interested in the stuff and Play a couple videos here This one says when you wake up at 3 a.m.
	and can't move and the hat man came to visit you.
	Another one here when you take too much Benadryl and the hat man appears.
	So play one of those.
	That's that one right there.
	You know people making fun of it of course.
	You know what I mean?
	Crazy stuff man.
	And just like them you know promoting this hat man.
	Yeah, and yeah little videos are making just to promote this hat man taking Benadryl and everything else Which is a dumb thing to do.
	You know, I mean, you don't overdose on Benadryl.
	It's bad.
	But yeah, that basically saying hey they do this and you can see the hat man.
	This is the same thing with That mirror thing.
	I guess bloody mirror thing.
	They did, you know, they're always summoning these demons.
	And to conjure up these demons and all that, and that's what you're doing.
	Yeah, and I wouldn't suggest anybody to do that at all.
	There's nothing good about the hat man.
	And I know you brought that up earlier, and we had the slides on who the hat man is.
	Basically, it's a demonic spirit.
	And you got the hoodie figure and the hat man are the two common ones that people see.
	I've seen both of these guys in my sleep.
	And one I actually seen, I think, was the hat man.
	And kind of real life, it was crazy, man.
	And this is the demons we deal with, guys.
	And this is what people are seeing.
	So I know the medical community would be like, oh, it's just hallucinations.
	I don't understand how millions of people over the generations can see the same hallucinations.
	I did.
	You know, it's not a coincidence at all.
	And that's one looks like Freddy Krueger.
	And that's the thing, the Freddy Krueger thing, like Vicky was explaining.
	It's drawn off from me.
	And the thing is, all these horror movies and stuff like that, they're drawn off of some truth.
	Real things that happen.
	And of course, Hollywood likes to spice it up with even more stuff wherever the case.
	But behind all fiction, there's some truth to it.
	You know what I mean?
	So people need to understand that.
	Especially in the occultic world, they love nothing more, especially to Hollywood, And social media now to promote this idea, you know, I mean and even people watch that Blair Witch Project movie Everybody knows it was a fake movie, but when I was doing the paranormal investigation We were working with the police department and we had to chase out so many teenagers running up in the woods in the middle of night Doing these stupid little things to try to invoke these things and also we came across Satanists and witches and everything else in the woods and everything else and
	and we were working with the police department for a while uh but you know it's because of movies and hollywood and he's now tiktok and everything else that explain the stuff to people and it gets them interested because people love to live on fear you know i mean they'll sit there they love the fact that they could sit there watch a movie and be free afraid you know and live off that adrenaline you know so to them this is a big rush to squat in the middle of the woods play with a ouija board stuff like that do these dumb things and the thing is You are playing with spiritual fire.
	That's the whole thing about it.
	And you're sleeping and everything else.
	When I got plagued with this stuff, a lot of times I couldn't breathe.
	I could open my eyes a little bit.
	I could literally see what's going on in the real world and in the dream world at the same time.
	It was them cross-referencing.
	It was insane.
	And I came across the hat man.
	I came across the hood figure.
	And one of these things I've seen in real life too, and that was like my brothers, me and my brother shared a room, and I locked the door because his friends were over, I locked the door to take a nap, I was the only one in the room, and I seen this, one of these things literally, like they went near the stereo system, I used to play the radio for the background music, to avoid out that noise, and you ever stand close to a speaker with a microphone, and it goes woo, and that distortion?
	I woke up from the distortion and it was one of these hooded figures that was standing near the stereo and it was like making a lot of that's how I woke up then the thing turned around looked at me jumped on my brother's bed and I'm like the heck's going on thought it was my brother but I woke up and turned the light on the door's locked and there's nothing in the room you know so I come across these things so many instances of stories know that but a lot of people I talked to They said they came across the shadow figures too.
	Then you got the ones with demon literally sitting on your chest That's what suffocates a lot of people and everything It's a real scary position really is and again as different levels and different I had things floating above my bed glowing in the middle of the night my bed Violently shaken and I scared the heck out of my cousin.
	We had this big bed in the basement, right?
	It was like a queen-size bed.
	And I told my cousin, you know, sleep on the bed, you know.
	So we put a glass of water in the middle of the room on the table.
	So the bed woke up.
	It's like this.
	And I'm like, look at the glass.
	It's not even moving.
	Because he said it could be a little tremors or something like that.
	We don't get tremors around there.
	I'm like, no, look at the glass.
	And he jumped off the bed and ran up the stairs.
	It was funny.
	But, yeah, most of my life into my, I'd say about my 30s and stuff, that's when I really confronted these demons.
	and the name of Jesus Christ and got rid of them.
	And again, they started coming back once in a while because they don't like losing their property.
	And it got easier to get rid of these things because you knew now, all right, you don't have to be afraid of these things no more.
	You don't have to let them torment you no more.
	Now it's time to kick their rare ends with the spiritual warfare, using the Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ, the blood of Christ and all that.
	And that's the whole point of this whole thing.
	If you suffer from sleep paralysis, guys, all you have to do, and you know, when you call upon the name of Jesus Christ, you can't use it empty.
	You have to really feel it, really truly believe it.
	That's how it works.
	Because anybody can say the name of Jesus Christ.
	A demon can say that.
	And they do.
	They address him as Lord, actually.
	But to call upon Jesus to get this, you know, for him to save you like this, you really need to believe it.
	You really need to put faith behind those words.
	Because there's just words.
	Without faith in the name of Jesus Christ, it's just words.
	That's all it is.
	You need to have faith and power with the Holy Spirit to do that, to make it work.
	So that's my point on this, you know, basically trying to help people with sleep paralysis.
	And I was talking to Vicky before the show here, and I go on a lot of these little chat things and Facebook group pages and all that.
	So many people, they got silly promises, right?
	So, they'll sit there, it's like, oh, you gotta do this and that, and sages, and all this new age garbage, all the medical stuff, and I'm like, alright guys, you let me know how that works out, okay?
	Because it's not gonna work out.
	Let me know how that works out, because the second I mention Jesus, or demons, automatically they shut you down.
	Automatically they criticize you, start rolling their eyes and everything.
	So, I'm like, alright, no problem.
	I'm not going to argue with you guys.
	I tell them right now, when you're done playing with your games and they're not going to work, you can come to me.
	This is a 100% success rate.
	And people that help through sleep paralysis, done the stuff, you know, using spiritual warfare, it stopped.
	So, and I tell these people all the time, it's like you be skeptical all you want.
	When you're done playing games, then come see me.
	Then we'll get to some serious talking.
	You know, don't engage in arguments with these people because number one, they're afraid to know the truth.
	And number two, they're just ignorant, you know, and so, you know, but sorry to take your time, Deb.
	Vicki, I'm sorry.
	No, no, I'm so glad that you brought that up.
	And, you know, I want to talk a little bit about What happens before and after sleep paralysis?
	Because I think a lot of people, especially the ones who have experienced it, is a lot of times we don't get freedom because we think the entirety of the experience is those 5-10 minutes in the bedroom where we couldn't move and before we shook it off.
	There is a lot of stuff going on before that and after that.
	And I'll just mention the after that first because that's easier to summarize.
	So anybody in witchcraft or in the occult knows that anytime you do witchcraft, anytime you conjure a spirit, You have to close the session.
	So if you're doing like witchcraft stuff in a circle, you have to close the circle.
	If you're doing a Ouija board, you have to say goodbye.
	You have to make the end of that session very clear to the entity, because if you leave the circle or the door open, it is like a wide open door.
	The door has been taken off the hinges.
	You have not told it, OK, I'm done with you or go away.
	And so it can then attach.
	And so the same thing with sleep paralysis, and this is where I think a lot of people get into trouble or they get into areas of vulnerability or into deeper torment or deeper spiritual warfare is they wake up and they shake the experience off.
	They say the name of Jesus.
	They say their Bible verses.
	They do the things where they get back to a place of comfort.
	But a lot of people with sleep paralysis, they will tell you that for hours, if not sometimes days after the event, they're still shook and they're still kind of afraid to go to bed at night or they're looking over their shoulder.
	This is because it wasn't closed.
	Yes, calling out on the name of Jesus will make that thing flee, but there needs to be spiritual warfare even after the event is done because you have to then Pray and say, you know, in the name of Jesus, close all these doors.
	Reveal the doors that I've opened so that I can repent, so that I can, you know, do my due diligence.
	If there's anything in my house I have to get rid of, will you reveal the source of this sleep paralysis?
	Yep.
	And so, I have in the appendix, in one of the appendices in my book, Talks about how you can do this prayer mapping exercise and how you can get the Holy Spirit to get you to the source of the sleep paralysis.
	Because a lot of us chase our tails and we go in circles for a long time and we've all done it.
	Those of us who have been doing this for decades.
	There gets to the point where you throw out everything in your house that can be possibly thrown out and you get rid of all your secular music and all of the gifts from overseas that could be charged.
	You pray all the prayers online where you're praying against Masonic curses or bloodlines and all this stuff.
	There's no end to the counsel that people give you as to what you need to do to close these doors.
	I find it just cut to the chase.
	You pray and in prayer you ask the Spirit of God to reveal to you the source of that sleep paralysis.
	I did this recently.
	Something really obscure came up and that's another thing too guys.
	Don't always assume that the source is something sinful or something that you did wrong.
	It can be.
	It absolutely can be.
	But I think a lot of people don't realize that this could be something that was brought into the home.
	It could be something ancestral, it could be military, it could be... there's so many different things.
	It could be invisible friends you had as a child, so you were opening up communication, and it could be any sort of obscure thing.
	So praying to the source can get you right to it.
	If it's something you need to repent of, you can repent of it.
	And all that.
	So just understand that even after the episode is over and the sun has come up and you're at work the next day and everything's fine, there needs to be some warfare after the fact to close those doors.
	And by way of what happens beforehand, where we're going to delve into this, we talked about this very briefly before we hit record here.
	I do believe that sleep paralysis is an abduction scenario and this is where there's some similarities in UFO abduction, but it is a completely different thing as well.
	For those people who've only had sleep paralysis once or twice, the episodes are so frightening and so hazy and so quick that a lot of times You can recall certain details, but you're not going to really remember with a lot of accuracy everything that happened.
	It's the same thing like if someone broke into your house and stuck a gun to your head.
	The cops come and they ask, what was he wearing and how tall was he?
	And you're like, what?
	All of that stuff was put out of your head because you were in full adrenaline mode as the attack was going on.
	I guess the upshot, if you can even call it that, when you've had sleep paralysis hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of times, at least you get to start making observations and you get to start testing theories and the next time it happens I'm going to look for this and I'm going to see if that happens or I'm going to see if this works.
	So one of the things that is just, for me, glaringly apparent is that, for me, the sleep paralysis attacks begin in my sleep.
	It always starts in a dream.
	My dream is going normal, everything's fine, everything's happy, and I will hear a vibrational sound in my ear.
	I've got a split second to go, oh crap, it's coming, and then something will enter into the dream And before I know it, I'm awake.
	And so what, where, where this is similar to the UFO abductions is when, when people tell their story, the experiencers tell their story, they'll say, I'm driving down the road.
	I see a bright light.
	I, you know, I see a craft, whatever.
	And all of a sudden then what seems like a split second later, They're a hundred miles down the road.
	Four hours have passed on their clock.
	It's a different time of day, etc.
	They have no memory.
	To them, it was a split second.
	They have no memory of anything that happened.
	And the only reason they know something happened, and the reason why they explore what happened to me, is because they're aware of that missing time.
	In sleep paralysis, you're not aware of the missing time.
	Because when you wake up in the morning, nobody questions, where was I the last five to eight hours?
	And even if something scary happens, you don't question it because it was just a dream, right?
	So what I try to encourage sleep paralysis sufferers to be really observant of is, because you're not going to be aware of missing time, you have to look for other clues.
	Like, I slept nine hours last night, but I am not well rested.
	You know how sometimes, and again, our culture just has all of these excuses.
	Oh, you woke up on the wrong side of the bed.
	How come sometimes when we wake up, even though the day before was great, and we wake up and we're agitated, we're upset, we're nervous, we have anxiety, we can't put it together.
	And so there's all sorts of like clues.
	You really have to be familiar with your baseline and when your baseline is off.
	And did I have any bad dreams last night?
	And is there something I might not be remembering?
	And one thing that I have found out recently is there's a lot of people that have sleep paralysis And they wake up with no memory of it.
	And a spouse or something will say, you know, you were crying out to the name of Jesus.
	You were saying, get off me, get off me.
	And the person will be like, I have no memory of it.
	So even for those of us that get up next morning and we remember that we had it, God only knows how many times we've had it and we have no memory of it.
	And this goes back to what we were talking about at the beginning of the show.
	There's times where we have to do spiritual warfare even if we don't have a conscious memory of perhaps anything happening.
	And so, what I think is happening is these things are coming to us.
	They're entering into the dreamscape.
	They're coming to us when we're in an REM level of sleep.
	And there is an astral abduction.
	We're being taken up into the astral realm.
	And once we are there, contracts and covenants are being made.
	Rituals or ceremonies are happening.
	Covenants are being made.
	And then you're returning.
	And so when you get into your bed at night, the part of sleep paralysis that we remember, which we think is the entirety of sleep paralysis, Sleep paralysis is when you wake up, there's something in the room, you see a shadow person, something's on your chest, you can't breathe, you sense a dark presence, you call in the name of Jesus and it goes away.
	But think about it from this perspective.
	Our brain doesn't remember what happened.
	And this could be a form of disassociation.
	It could be a form of self-protection.
	Like, I cannot remember that.
	It was too horrible.
	So we are in some sort of cerebral state of dissociation from what may have happened up there in the astral.
	But our body is physiologically giving us every single sign that we have just been traumatized.
	We are having trouble breathing.
	Our heart is pounding out of control.
	All of the saliva in our mouth is dried up.
	We're terrified.
	A lot of times we're on our back in a self-defensive pose.
	Our hands are up here.
	We're in Like if you were to chalk outline us, we would be in a position where we were fighting something off of us.
	And so our body is trying to tell us that something happened.
	And so I just want people, I want everybody to hear me saying two things.
	First of all, I want you to hear me saying that if you've ever had sleep paralysis, It doesn't mean that every single time you've had it, this has happened.
	I'm just saying that this is a scenario that long-term sleep paralysis sufferers are experiencing, and it's a possibility.
	And if it's something that you've never opened your mind to, Some parts of your story might make sense if you think of it in terms of the broader context, because we're just remembering a snapshot of what happened in potentially a 30 to 60 to 120 minute scenario, right?
	So I don't want you to think, Oh my gosh, I had sleep paralysis once when I was a teenager and I got dragged up to the astral and I'm in a covenant.
	Like I, this is not, this is meant to bring freedom, not fear.
	But to those who have had this happen, I would ask you to just prayerfully consider that perhaps the portion of the sleep paralysis experience that you remember is only a small piece of a larger episode, and that part of your prayers for coming to the bottom of this would be to have the Father reveal to you anything necessary
	By way of understanding and by way of overcoming if there are details that you're not remembering.
	And I'll put a disclaimer to this, guys.
	There are people out there, a lot of people that experience sleep paralysis that come to me.
	They are UFO experiencers.
	They have survived satanic ritual abuse, things like that.
	And then there's people that are just, this is genetic, it's military, it's what, you know, whatever.
	But just understand, this is my disclaimer, That there are some people out there that are having this experience because there are very traumatic events in their past or in their childhood that they have no memory of, and that this could bring up memories that you may or may not be ready for.
	This is a very serious thing, you guys.
	This isn't goosebumps like what Dan was talking about, like, oh, let's go in the woods with an Ouija board.
	This is not fun and games.
	This is not, like, we live in a culture now where we're being groomed to Find our identity in our trauma and in our victimhood.
	And that's not what Christianity is about.
	That's not what Jesus Christ is about.
	He's about freedom and victory and healing.
	And sometimes there are things buried that the Lord wants to keep buried.
	Retrieving every single memory is not necessary to heal.
	But just understand that if you Move at this too quickly or you move at this outside of the framework of prayer and fasting or outside of the framework of an accountability partner who knows what's happening and who's praying with you that That this can go south really fast.
	This is a very serious thing, so just don't look at it like, oh cool, I'm going to find something out and I'm going to have this great story to tell people.
	This is a very serious thing and so for some people you will have
	You have no idea the depths like you're seeing the little iceberg tip coming out of the water and you have no idea that massive like continent size of ice that's under the water that might be unveiled and so I would just warn everybody without being too melodramatic which is probably too late for that but sleep paralysis isn't this silly little thing like you had a bad slice of pizza before you went to bed
	And for some people, this is the side effect of very deep trauma.
	And to just not go into this, I've had people come to me and say, you know what, I just figured out that I'm dissociative and I'm part of an occult family.
	You know, like the programming broke and they figured it out and they're like, They think that they're going to have an hour phone call with me, and they're going to fix it, and they have no idea when they rip that can open how many worms are going to come out, right?
	So, at risk of being too overly dramatic, just understand that this is not as silly as the movies have made it out to be.
	And for some people, the sleep paralysis is indicative of some deep, deep stuff that's going to require a lot of healing.
	So even when I say pray and ask the Father to reveal the source, even that you should prayerfully consider even before you do that.
	You remember, you remember like, um, literally just not too long ago, there was these videos that was all over online and they was the sudden, you know, what D E A T H. And there was people like in traumatic and they would put their hands up and that's, you know, they're like looking around their spot, they're like turn, started to do like turn a circumference.
	And all of a sudden they're like, Oh no.
	And then they just cross over.
	Like they fall hit the ground.
	First thing I thought of when he was talking about the sleep paralysis with people like, you know, waking up and trying to fight something off.
	I'm just, I mean, you know, A lot of people was joking like the Grim Reaper came and got them, you know, on those videos, you know, I'm thinking, uh, this looks really weird.
	It's almost like they could see like for a moment, like something through a veil, like they could see it.
	They started circling.
	Oh my God.
	You know, and then, then they would literally die right there on the camera.
	It's horrible on security cameras and everything.
	I know.
	I don't know if y'all seen those, but they're pretty, pretty baffling.
	It's the first thing I thought of Vicki.
	Well quick too, I put a poll in the chat room earlier, asked people if they had any kind of experience with sleep paralysis.
	70% of people said yes and 30% of people said no.
	So thank you guys for taking part of that poll.
	yeah just changed it went from 71 to 70 so 70 percent of people said yes and 30 percent people said no so thank you guys for taking part of that poll and thank you harold and valerie's moderating the chat room and also guys we got a donation page we put in the chat room there and also we got a paypal demo cash app the donation page we use is a ko-fi site you You don't have to sign up for nothing You just donate what you want use whatever card you want.
	It's pretty simple But if you do go to PayPal Venmo or cash app, the links are in description We thank you guys for supporting this operation because without you guys without the father this show would not be possible So thank you guys so much So, yeah, Vicki, very intriguing, it really is, the information, and because, especially those of us who have been through sleep paralysis and all that, you got some, actually all your points, not some, but all your points you made are perfectly well said.
	It's really informative, that's for sure.
	Well, thank you, thank you.
	Yeah, um, I don't I don't know how we're doing for time or anything guys.
	No rush here.
	I mean, whatever.
	I mean, like if you want to stay on for a little while, we do take phone calls too.
	I don't know if you've got more to talk about, but I mean, if you want to take some phone calls, we could do that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	That would be great.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	We don't, I mean, we're like coast to coast.
	We'll be on all night if we could, you know.
	Yeah, yep.
	So, guys, there's the phone number here, 512-547-1776.
	I'm going to put that in the chat room as well.
	So, guys, here's how it works.
	When you call and the call gets denied, Don't call back.
	I got your number on caller ID.
	I'll call you back in turn.
	Because what it does is it interrupts the person that's talking on the phone.
	So please try to wait for the person to get done.
	Then call in or just again call in once.
	And I'll call you back.
	So please remember that.
	Because sometimes people just call in and they call 15 times in a row.
	And then it's interrupting the guest or the person on the phone.
	And try to keep it to a minimum time.
	We don't rush people but just try to get to the point.
	It's 7 Minutes of Freedom.
	It's Lance.
	Man, I'm doing good.
	30 or 40 second delay on YouTube and Rumble.
	So guys on YouTube and Rumble, always remember to go to truthradioshow.com.
	That's where we post the links for our shows.
	Sometimes we don't get to broadcast on both, but we like to broadcast on multiple platforms.
	So we got our 334 number.
	Hi, you're on here, what's your name? - It's Seven Minutes of Freedom, it's Lance.
	- Hey, what's up Lance, how you doing brother?
	- Man, I'm doing good, how are y'all?
	- Pretty good.
	- Hanging in there.
	Man, I couldn't miss a chance of saying hey to Vicky.
	She's awesome.
	And plus, I wanted to call in and bring awareness to NoDeadBabies.com.
	It's a campaign that Tom Dunn's doing to save the little baby.
	Yep.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Hey, don't thank me, man.
	Thank Jesus.
	But y'all have a blessed night.
	I can't hear that good.
	I'm out in the public.
	Your whole world forever.
	Amen, brother.
	Thank you.
	Awesome.
	Thank you so much.
	Thank you for bringing that up.
	If you go to nomoredeadbabies.com, that's something that Tom Dunn and I and Through the Black are instigating as a campaign.
	You can get a free t-shirt.
	You just have to pay shipping and handling.
	And we are trying to start a movement We have got to start caring as Christians.
	We got to start repenting for the blood on the ground.
	We have to start taking action.
	And we're not just talking about the big A word that nobody can talk about.
	We're talking about child sacrifice, trafficking, everything.
	We're tired of all this blood being spilled and all of these sacrifices to Molech.
	And we cannot sit back and... What's that website again?
	NoMoreDeadBabies.com So get on there, order your free t-shirt, pay shipping and handling, and we're hoping to get thousands of t-shirts handed out.
	And if you are a podcaster and you want to have your logo and a link to your podcast on that website, you can also write to us and you can be a sponsor and we can give you the details of what you need to do for that.
	Nice.
	I would love to do that because I'm all about that.
	You know, especially when it comes to children, you know, babies and everything.
	Yeah, nothing fires me up more than that.
	It's like Jesus, you know, like when he says, be better for a person to tie a millstone around their neck than to offend one of these little ones.
	That's right.
	And man, I can't even imagine the wrath and judgment that these people are going to get that, you know, go after children sexually, pervertedly, whatever the case.
	You know what I mean?
	Or even kill them in a womb.
	It just makes me so angry.
	Yes.
	We got Sister Max as she called.
	I'll call you back here.
	So we're calling you, Sister Max.
	So guys, I put the link in the chat room for that website too. - Thank you.
	Hello.
	Hey, Sister.
	How you doing?
	More glass than I deserve.
	How are y'all?
	Pretty good.
	Doing good.
	Good.
	Hello, Brian.
	Hello.
	I'm so sorry.
	I didn't catch your guest's name.
	Vicky.
	Vicky.
	Yeah.
	Very interesting.
	Um, testimony and information that you've given.
	I was listening throughout the whole, I wasn't on chat, but I was in the hallway listening in while I was putting my babies to bed.
	So, um, as, as best as I could, I do have a question.
	Um, my kids, I was told that it's normal for toddlers to have night terrors, be screaming in their sleep and whatnot, and having full-blown conversations and sentences.
	But for the most part with my kids, it's screaming in their sleep and sweating, and sometimes even, you know, I was told not to interrupt them, don't flick on the lights.
	I have flicked on the lights before because I was like, whoa, this is intense, like screaming and whatnot.
	It would wake me up.
	And my daughter and my son both do it.
	My daughter was the roughest one though.
	Like when I flick up the lights, it's like it takes forever for her to snap out of it.
	Her eyes will be rolling back.
	She will sit straight up in bed and like be looking at me, but it's like, she's not looking at me.
	Like she's not awake.
	It's weird.
	Um, and the closer I walked to her to tell her, Hey, Hey, it's okay.
	Like she freaks out.
	Like I'm some type of shadow figure or something.
	This is the only time I've seen it in my life other than an ex I was with.
	We used to do some pretty hard drugs back in the day and some pretty bad evil stuff in the gang lifestyle and we would see the same demonic stuff.
	Like, you know, if someone's doing a drug and they say, oh, man, you're just hallucinating.
	But when two people are seeing and hearing two of the same thing, that's, you know, definitely, I could tell, like, I mean, I knew it was demonic.
	It wasn't just one person tripping or hallucinating off of a drug because we both simultaneously seen and heard things and culture guides, activities, and whatnot.
	So anyways, that's just a sixth background of when I first seen it.
	And now that I'm seeing it again, we're What would cause it in children?
	Since it's supposedly so common for this to happen to them?
	Three and four years old.
	Yeah, this is a great question.
	I'm so glad this came up.
	There is actually a difference between night terrors and sleep paralysis.
	Some people use it synonymously.
	Night terrors is a completely different thing.
	It's usually something that only happens to children.
	Obviously, there's always outliers, but it's not typically an adult thing.
	The thing with night terrors is... I've done two entire episodes on other podcasts specifically just on night terrors because what I'm discovering is that with night terrors and even sleep paralysis, it's like a grooming program.
	And they're coming after little children, and what a lot of people aren't talking about, and this is why people haven't wanted to talk about sleep paralysis for so long.
	We have not even gotten into the whole incubus-succubus aspect of this.
	The sexual encounters and the rapes and the attacks, the sexual attacks.
	Not always, but many people, there's a sexual component to this as well, which is why nobody ever wanted to talk about it in the past, because if you told your pastor or somebody that you had sleep paralysis, they would think that, you know, you were opening up all these sexual doors and whatever.
	The first time I brought this up, I was really leery to bring it up, but I have gotten so much feedback since I brought this up.
	When children are having these night terrors and these sleep paralysis experiences, it is a very slow, methodical, over the course of 10 to 12 year type of a thing.
	They're being groomed.
	And the stuff that we're seeing in the public school system now that they're doing overtly, in the past, this was being done covertly through night terrors and sleep paralysis.
	And what ends up happening is it becomes an introduction.
	Many of these children, they can't communicate it at the time, but they experience an early sexual awakening.
	These children are taught through the night terror experiences and through invisible friends which end up being astral handlers.
	They'll wake up masturbating, which they've never done before, they've never heard of before.
	They will then get addicted to that.
	It becomes a self-soothing to comfort themselves.
	So when they have these night terror experiences and they're afraid, that becomes the self-soothe.
	Then it turns into these various addictions.
	I have had so many, many adults contact me who are struggling with some sort of sexual deviancy.
	And I don't just mean same-sex attraction.
	I mean deviancy all over the map.
	And they will tell me, I didn't realize, I didn't remember until I heard your podcast that this all started as a child through sleep paralysis.
	So I'm really glad that you brought that up.
	And you know, I don't know If it's good or bad or, you know, they always say don't ever wake up a sleepwalker, don't ever wake up someone with night terrors.
	I don't know that it's dangerous, I just know that it's very hard to do.
	My brother had night terrors and, I mean, it didn't matter how much noise you made or what you did, you just can't wake them up.
	And they don't usually have any memory, once they woke up, of the experience.
	But one thing that you can do is, in the middle of these episodes, Because you can claim the authority and the power of the name of Jesus, and you can pray over that child.
	And that child might not hear you, but those entities can hear you.
	And so you can take control of that situation, and you can pray over that child.
	And like we were talking about earlier, you don't necessarily need to bring your child into this, because there's things that they don't understand and that they don't need to know about.
	They need to maintain their innocence and their purity.
	As parents and as guardians and as grandparents, if you have a child that has sleep paralysis or night terrors or habitual nightmares, be praying for their protection, their innocence, their purity, their sexual purity.
	Pray that these entities will not be able to groom them, pray that they will be protected in their sleep, that angels will surround them, that Jesus will protect them, that they will not be able to see or hear or interact with these things, and maybe wait to have those more mature conversations with them as they get older, but just understand that there are a lot of
	Christian children, Christian children who are being homeschooled, parents who are going out of their way to make sure their children are not exposed to all of this garbage that are getting targeted in their sleep.
	And these kids aren't necessarily going to be able to communicate or even understand what's happening.
	But know that one of the agendas is that it is many children are now reporting into adulthood that this started as a grooming process.
	Wow, yeah.
	That's good information.
	I do, I do pray.
	Especially, sometimes it freaks me out.
	I mean, just because it's coming out of the sleep, and it'll be shrieking.
	And the weird thing about it is, sometimes it comes on cue.
	Like, if I'm about to turn off my TV, or get in bed, instantly, wah!
	On cue, every time I'm about to go to sleep.
	It's weird on cue moments.
	But I will continue praying.
	I mean, that's the only thing I think I can do for my children.
	And like you said, maintain their innocence.
	I don't try to ask them too much what's going on.
	I have before, and my daughter would just say stuff like purple monster and this and that.
	I'm like, okay.
	Because I'd like to better understand it.
	Other than that, all I know is it's not of God.
	No.
	Amen to that.
	Just pray and pray and have faith.
	My son, every night, I pray over him, you know what I mean?
	I work third shift during the week, but come home early enough, I'll pray over him and everything and cover him with the blood of Jesus.
	Amen.
	Yes, amen.
	Good on that.
	Well, thank you for the call, sister.
	Alright, well, thanks for having me.
	It was nice meeting you, uh, by ear.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thanks for the question.
	That was great information to get out.
	Yeah.
	Yes, ma'am.
	And thanks for the response.
	Y'all have a blessed night.
	You too.
	Later.
	Later.
	Okay, who's next?
	Uh, Brother Mike.
	I'm calling you now, Brother Mike.
	I know you got a problem with your phone.
	That's a lot to digest.
	Yeah.
	It's a lot to digest.
	Well, I've already, my mind's already went there with all these topics.
	So, but it's hard to hear, you know, from somebody else's mouth.
	So, you know what I mean?
	Like I've always just had thoughts.
	Yeah.
	Hey, how you doing?
	How's it going brother?
	Pretty good.
	That was a wow.
	Thank you for the interesting program.
	Absolutely.
	And, uh, so you got a question for Vicki?
	So, using the name of Jesus will stop the sleep paralysis?
	I'd say nine times out of ten.
	There are certain people that are at certain levels, and people on psychedelics, and there are exceptions, but UFO abductees and sleep paralysis experiencers will tell you that crying out the name of Jesus or saying in the name of Jesus, get out, will do it a frequent amount of the time.
	Now, technology is actually changing.
	I think I'm hearing from people now where the name doesn't work.
	I think that avatars and things are being used now.
	So you're actually speaking to something that's not a demon.
	So they're finding ways around it technologically.
	does praying before bed help I didn't catch that You want to know if praying before bed helps?
	Absolutely.
	Yes, absolutely.
	Great question.
	What I always tell people is You know different people absorb things differently.
	We all have different thresholds of anxiety and one thing is I know people that are are so deeply enmeshed in this that they are praying for two hours before they go to bed and they're praying against everything they can think of.
	I'm praying against dark technologies and I'm praying against the Wi-Fi and the router.
	I always tell people, don't pray for what you don't want.
	Pray for what you do want.
	So instead of going to bed, thinking about all the terrible things that might happen if you fall asleep, which sort of then becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, you're sort of almost drawing that energy to you, so to speak.
	I pray and say, Father, I want rest tonight.
	And I'll hold him accountable to his own promises, and so I'll read the Psalms that talk about how he gives rest to those.
	I'll look up verses, and I'll meditate on verses that talk about rest, and things like that.
	And then I'll say, Father, I just want to meet with you tonight in my dreams, and I want to walk in the cool of the garden.
	Father, I don't want to sin against you in my dreams tonight.
	I want to be, you know, foster an attitude where you are looking forward to going to sleep over the prospect of maybe Seeing his face, or being in his presence.
	And so, because I do find that a lot of times when people get so hung up on... I pray over every threshold, and over my bedroom door, and over the window, and over the floorboards, and over the outlets, and over, you know, they then become almost obsessed with... We were talking at the beginning of the show about how legalistic they are.
	I have found that when I go down that rabbit hole, and I say, God, don't let me have a dream about this, or this, or this, I'll have a dream about the one thing I didn't pray about that's equally as terrifying, so then I have to add that the next night.
	And then they one-up me, and then I've got to add something else.
	And pretty soon, we're just tied up in this fear.
	And so our prayers should always be God-centered and worship-centered, not fear-centered.
	Let's not glorify the enemy in all of the ways that he can terrify us before we go to bed.
	That's the same thing as kind of meditating on On the enemy.
	So absolutely prayer works.
	But it doesn't take three or four hours of it and we don't have to get all worked up and think of every single thing that they could possibly do in every portal and every threshold and so absolutely prayer works.
	But I would just I would have a couple key scriptures memorized and I would just fall asleep meditating on those scriptures.
	But I also encourage people.
	A prayer before you go to bed is not going to overcompensate if you spent the five hours prior to going to bed watching a bunch of horror movies and stuff like that.
	You know what I mean?
	I find that a lot of people, we're meditating on a lot of garbage all day long.
	It's garbage in, garbage out.
	If we're meditating on garbage all day long and then just right before we go to sleep saying, oh God protect me.
	There has to be some give and take here too.
	We have to be part of the solution as well.
	And so part, in addition to the prayers, part of it is I'm going to prepare myself for sleep every night.
	So I'm going to give myself two hours before I go to bed and I'm going to ask the Spirit of God to guide me in what I need to do to bring my heart and my soul and my mind and my body into a We're in a state of preparation for peace and rest.
	And when we're spending those hours before we go to bed rushing around and stressing out over tomorrow and all the things we don't have done and, you know, watching horror movies and exposing ourselves to all this blue light and, you know, sitting there scrolling through our phone and reading about everything going on in the world, God can still protect us, but we have to do ourselves a few favors there, too.
	I was thinking there's a verse, Psalms 4.8, I will both lay me down in peace and sleep for thou, Lord, only makest me dwell in safety.
	Amen.
	Amen.
	And then there's a verse in Proverbs, I think it's 3.24, where it says, I will both lay me down in peace and sleep.
	When thou liest down, thou shalt not be afraid.
	Yea, thou shalt lie down, and thy sleep shall be sweet.
	Amen, brother.
	Amen.
	Those are some good verses.
	I was thinking about, this is kind of weird.
	I thought Jesus didn't have sleep paralysis and they were afraid of him.
	Yeah.
	But then it talks about he was tempted at all points as we are yet without sin.
	And I thought, dude, Jesus was God and the demons were afraid of him.
	I don't think he suffered from that.
	No, because remember when he got off the boat and, uh, legion, you know, the legions of demons came after him and that guy and, uh, they were afraid, deathly afraid of him.
	Yeah, because he knew who he was and he, you know, so.
	What about that verse in Revelation where it talks about He opens a door and nobody can shut it, and He shuts a door and nobody can open it?
	I wonder if you could ask Jesus to close doors so stuff can't bother you.
	I just bind any and all evil.
	Altogether.
	Bind any and all evil and protect us all.
	That's the best I can do.
	Like Ricky said, you'll be there all night.
	Yeah, the doorway, the crack in the wall, you know what I mean?
	Like being able to dig it off left and right and you fall asleep probably, like not getting everything.
	So the best thing to do is just like bind any and all evil.
	That's it.
	And that covers everything.
	Amen.
	And to Mike's point, Even if Jesus didn't experience sleep paralysis, what he did encounter was he interfaced with spirits beyond the veil who tried to torment him.
	We know he was tormented.
	We know from his 40-day fasting, the devil came to him.
	And we know he was dimensionally taken because he was up on the top of a mountain where he could see all the nations.
	And there isn't a mountain high enough in Israel or Jerusalem where you could see all the nations.
	He might not have had a sleep paralysis attack, maybe he did, but the fact is that where he can relate to us who have it is he was tormented by demons who pulled him dimensionally into another place.
	We know at least at that one time when he was brought to the pinnacle that that was probably a dimensional space because he was able to see all the nations.
	We do know that he shares with us in that, that he has been tormented by these astral spirits.
	But he was victorious, so it was one and done with him, probably.
	That's like when the devil tempted him, I thought, does the devil even know who he's trying to tempt?
	I mean, what the heck?
	I mean, if you want to go ahead and try, devil, you take your best shot, but you know who Jesus is.
	Amen, brother.
	You got that right.
	Well, that's like in the book of Revelation 19 where it says, I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse.
	It's like, is this a special kind of stupid or what?
	Oh yeah, they think they got a chance, yeah.
	Okay, I get the devil's smarter than we are and we need Jesus inside of us to defeat the devil, but why does the devil just give up?
	Well his point, he knows he's gonna lose but he wants to bring everybody else down with him.
	That's his point.
	That's what he wants to do.
	He knows that at the Battle of Armageddon they're gonna lose, like, badly.
	But his goal, like I said, is just to try to bring everybody down with him as possible.
	To the Lake of Fire.
	Wow.
	I don't want to join him there.
	I'd rather be in heaven with Jesus because he died for sinners like me.
	Yeah, so... Well, thank you for the call, brother.
	Hey, uh, can I pray with you guys?
	Oh, absolutely.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Uh, God, please touch and heal Dan and help him to recover from the stroke that he had.
	And, uh, God, just be with Brian and help him with all of his health problems.
	And God, please help, uh, Brian's dad.
	His... Your dad's name is Kyle, right?
	It's Calvin.
	Okay, and God, just touch Kyle and heal him completely of cancer.
	And God, save Kyle if he doesn't know Jesus.
	And God, just help Vicki be with her.
	And God, please help her.
	And God, just protect us all and help us in Jesus' name.
	Amen.
	Thank you, brother.
	Thanks, Mike.
	Thank you so much.
	Thank you Mike.
	Love you guys.
	Love you too brother.
	Alrighty.
	Okay we'll do one more phone call here and then we'll do our prayer requesting and wrap it up.
	So brother Tim's next.
	I saved the names in the caller ID that's how I know names.
	Woo!
	Woo!
	What's up brother?
	What's happening guys?
	Yeah I had a...
	Wow, sounds like y'all have had a great show.
	My worst sleeping fear happens.
	I fell asleep during the show.
	Yep, that's a paralysis on it's own.
	Yeah, I was eating some leftover Thanksgiving and a little too much pecan pie, man, and I was out.
	Down for the count.
	Thanks for calling in, Sam.
	Yeah, we know the topic too well.
	All right.
	Is it just me?
	Dan, you know how this goes.
	Like, you're not just paralyzed and can't move.
	Don't you feel like they're stabbing, cutting, like, at your soul, your most inner being?
	Like, you're being attacked when this goes on.
	You know, it's not just, oh, I can't move.
	You can feel all the evil of it.
	And, of course, they throw everything...
	Yeah, the fear, the terror, and they're slashing, clawing, doing something to your soul.
	You can feel it, but yet you can't, but yeah, you really can.
	It's hard to explain.
	But yeah, you know, when you're talking about sometimes the name of Jesus doesn't work, I've never had it not work with me, but sometimes it's taken a while, because you can't get anything out of your mouth, right?
	So you're talking and you're praying in your head and in your heart to Him, but eventually, if you don't back down and you keep fighting and keep struggling within yourself, Jesus will show up and, oh, And God help them, whenever your mouth does work again and you get his name out of your mouth, then it's over with.
	But sometimes it can take a while.
	Yep.
	And I've been through it probably three or four times.
	I feel sorry for anybody that has to go through that.
	I mean, it is...
	I think that's a really good point because I've noticed that too.
	just sitting there testing you.
	I said, all right, let me see how much faith he's got in me.
	Because a couple of people like two, three times, oh, it's not going to work and they give up.
	But I think he does that purposely to test how much faith you got in him.
	That's a really good point because I've noticed that too.
	Sometimes you don't even have the whole name You just said G and they're gone.
	And then other times you have to say Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus a hundred times.
	But I have noticed, and I've had other people corroborate this, That if you learn to wield the name of Jesus offensively rather than defensively, it is more powerful.
	So there's a difference between, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, help me, help me, help me, and in the name of Jesus, get out.
	So when you wield it offensively, like I know I've got the sword here, they tend to flee a lot more quickly when they understand that you understand the power in that name.
	Yeah, like use conviction with the name.
	Like I said earlier, people could, yeah, you could say the name Jesus, it's just a name, but you need to use conviction, faith behind that.
	When you do that, you feel that conviction, that's when the power comes out, and it's through Jesus, of course, you know?
	Oh yeah, exactly, 100%.
	It's like, you're trying to get his name out, because you know, once it comes out, it's over.
	Yep.
	And it's that struggle.
	Yeah, when you're dependent on Him, and you've got your faith in Him that much, it's like, man, if I could just get your name out, this will end.
	That's where I come at it from.
	Just a little bit of His name.
	But even thinking and praying to Him, you get a little bit stronger, or they get weaker or something, or He makes them take their hands off you at some point.
	I don't know, but you can just get jeezed Then that kind of does it, in my experience.
	But everybody's different.
	Yeah, yeah.
	One of my favorite comments that I ever read that relates to this, this was probably back in like 2012, and I was on a message board online with people sharing their sleep paralysis experiences, and there was a young man on there who was Muslim.
	And he said, you guys, I don't follow Jesus and I don't believe in Jesus.
	But when you have this, you call on the name of Jesus, because whether you worship him or not, it works.
	I just thought that was great.
	So that and that's what's so wonderful about the grace of God, too, is Jesus isn't interested in Q&A-ing you in the moment.
	When you call on His name because you know He's going to rescue you, He's not interested in what church you're a member of at that moment.
	If He is able to show His power and His glory to you, that's going to plant a seed.
	And so this is one of those things, too, where Calling on the name of Jesus isn't just something that Christians get to do.
	I've even had agnostic people tell me, I don't even believe in Jesus, I don't even believe in God, but I call on the name of Jesus when this happens, and it works.
	Amen.
	And not only with sleep paralysis, I have found, if you go beyond the religion and you develop relationship with Him, You stay in his word and you feed your spirit and grow stronger spiritually.
	Don't feed your flesh.
	Feed the spirit.
	Grow in the spirit.
	You can actually control and change your dreams.
	You will get to the point and strong enough.
	You can say, Nope, I've had this dream.
	I know where this is going.
	I'm not.
	You can turn it.
	You can stop it.
	You can change it.
	You are in control and have all the power in your dreams.
	As long as you're built up spiritually and you're spiritually strong.
	Yeah.
	I've been able to do it myself.
	So people who struggle with nightmares, like the lady saying, number one, quit watching horror movies because you got to shut the door.
	If you don't want it, if you don't want to live in it at night, don't watch it during the day.
	Yep.
	But, uh, I'll let someone else call in.
	Sorry I couldn't be with you guys all night.
	Everybody in the chat, but love to everyone as always.
	Great show.
	As always, guys, and Dan, Brian, and Vicki, God bless you all.
	And everyone, have a great weekend and Sabbath.
	And Tim, woo!
	Thank you.
	Woo!
	Yeah, thank you, Tim.
	Shabbat shalom, brother.
	You too.
	Bye.
	Bye.
	I think yeah when we talk about the horror movies and all that because you know people out there this time of year especially with the Halloween and all that so they go out to the trick-or-treating watching horror movies and all that stuff this is creating strongholds in your house so you can't be like I'm gonna go do all this then oh Jesus I'm having a bad nightmare or something like that It's not going to work right away, probably, because Jesus wants to teach you a lesson.
	It's like, listen, remember those horror movies and things I told you not to do?
	You didn't do it anyway?
	Yes, I'm going to let you wait a while.
	You know, teach you a lesson, yeah.
	And I think what happens to Christians and all that, that's just God sort of disciplining us and bringing that realness back into where it's supposed to be.
	And other people too, just regular people out there that, you know, so many people out there, I believe in Jesus, but they don't practice it, you know?
	So the lukewarm Christians, whatever the case, and so I think God allows these things to happen to try to reel you in because he's trying to say, hey, listen, you're not taking me serious.
	So I'm going to let this happen to you.
	Like when you do with Job, you know, perfect example for that.
	Yeah.
	You know, just a word, too, about, like, horror movies and music, too, and, like, especially, like, people like to throw into the same category, like, heavy metal music, that kind of thing.
	I think a lot of people feel like, oh, I'm really getting away with it, or I can handle this, because they figure if I don't have nightmares or I don't become a serial killer, obviously there's no impact.
	But I just, again, really keep your finger on the pulse of If anything in your life doesn't bear fruit, if it's not sanctifying you, if you're not in a pursuit of holiness, if it's not glorifying to God, if it's disruptive, if it's grieving the Holy Spirit, it doesn't matter if you're having nightmares or sleep paralysis or you start developing a psychosis where you're fantasizing about hurting people.
	Those aren't the only side effects of Heavy metal music and horror movies and so for the Christians out there that love that stuff and struggle with that, I just want to encourage you that I love that verse that says that we're supposed to cast off all of our sin and every weight that entangles us.
	There are things that weigh us down and entangle us that are not sin.
	It's a different category.
	And so, as Christians, we're not supposed to be asking, can I get away with this?
	We're supposed to be asking, does this glorify God?
	And if it doesn't glorify God, I don't care if it's something as innocent as your stamp collection.
	If you're not able to do something in a way that's bearing fruit or glorifying God, it is a weight and it is an entanglement.
	And so, we have to think more in terms of If I get away with something without any really huge visible consequences, God must be giving it a stamp of approval.
	We've got to get away from that kind of thinking.
	Absolutely.
	I understand.
	Yeah.
	So yeah, we're done with the phone calls tonight.
	So you want to promote any website or anything?
	I know you've got a website here.
	It's vickyjoyandsin.com.
	Yep, yep.
	VickiJoyAnderson.com.
	You can contact me through there.
	My books are on there.
	They only come out at night is L.A.
	Marzulli.com.
	You can see me and Tom every Tuesday night at 11 p.m.
	Eastern on Through the Black 2.
	That's number 2 on YouTube.
	And my Instagram is VickiJoyAuthor.
	I've got a phone call coming in.
	I'll take one more.
	Oops, I guess I didn't Hello?
	Oh, no, they didn't answer.
	So, yeah, YouTube, let me get that up here.
	Let me see.
	What was your YouTube channel?
	So it's Through the Black number two.
	And it's not always, it might be Shadowband, Dan, because it's, even when I try to find it, it's hard to pull up.
	So I can send you a link afterwards, too, if that helps.
	Let me see.
	Yeah, you're going to have to send me the link.
	Yeah, they got it nice and hidden.
	Yeah, I hate that.
	Even when you type the exact name of the video, it doesn't show up.
	Yep.
	It's ridiculous.
	It's been a blessing.
	It's been a blessing.
	Thank you, Becky.
	It's been an honor and a pleasure reading the book.
	So your book only comes out at night, right?
	I only come out at night.
	I only have a podcast at night.
	So I was telling Brian we used to be up till like 2-3 in the morning and talk about all this stuff and I'm like, you know most people are asleep and we're over here talking about aliens and mounds and... Oh yeah.
	I'm a night owl.
	Yeah, same here.
	That's so funny.
	It is kind of wild.
	I mean it is kind of wild to do these programs and everybody's like, I stay up till like 4 o'clock in the morning.
	Well I appreciate your time Vicky and anything else you want to promote before we go?
	No, that is good.
	And thank you again to the caller who brought up nomoredeadbabies.com.
	That is fantastic.
	So everybody go and get your free t-shirt.
	Yeah, I'm definitely going to go there myself.
	It's right there guys, nomoredeadbabies.com.
	So check it out.
	So we're all pro-life here, so thank God.
	You know, like, there's people out there rising up to stand for children.
	It gets my blood boiling.
	I'll tell you that right now.
	I've been to the statehouse, you know, when they have these protests and everything.
	And these people dressed in red clothing, they got fake babies hanging off them, stomping on them, blood all over.
	It's disgusting, nasty stuff.
	And I've seen guys A person twitched when uh, there was a couple churches there every church should have been there But only a couple small churches were there praying and uh singing and you seen people in the corners just twitching Out of hatred, but you could see the demons in them.
	It was like horrendous man.
	I'll tell you Father forgive them.
	They know not what they do.
	Yep.
	Yeah Amen Amen to that It has been a blessing tonight.
	It has been a blessing.
	Thank you, guys.
	Thank you for your time.
	Thank you so much.
	I hope you enjoyed it.
	I hope you enjoyed it because we did.
	I really did.
	The time went so fast and I am so happy that I met you guys and shout out to Karen for the intro.
	Oh, yeah.
	Thank you, Karen, too, for the recommending me, recommending her to me.
	I'm sorry.
	Thank you, Karen.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Well, thank you so much.
	We're just going to do some prayer requests.
	So I got an email list of them and then we're going to call it a night.
	Sounds good.
	God bless you, sister.
	Thank you.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Bless you, Vicki.
	Yep.
	Bye-bye.
	Let me fix the screen here.
	There we go.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Almost naughty here.
	So I have to adjust the screen.
	So he's having the coins on my top of Brian.
	Giving him a Hulk smash, you know?
	Like at John's house.
	I gotta get down here to Indiana.
	You do, man.
	You do.
	All right, so let's go to the internet here.
	Where is it?
	Prayer requests number one from Barbara Bolt.
	So first of all, let's get into the to the mode here.
	So Heavenly Father, thank you for this awesome show.
	Thank you for Vicky and thank you for the awesome amazing testimony.
	Thank you for the callers and being Thanksgiving.
	We want to thank you for everything in general and thank you for life.
	Thank you for salvation through your son Jesus Christ.
	And protect us all, Lord, every one of us, and from all the forces of evil, and by any and all evil that's against us, Lord.
	And, Lord, we're sitting here enduring these spiritual attacks, enduring them, and just, we know it's you forging us through the fire, Lord, and we welcome it.
	And, Lord, we have people we're going to pray for tonight.
	Number one is Barbara here.
	She needs prayers to get well in time for her scheduled surgery.
	So, Lord, we ask you to help her get well.
	And also... Who's this one here?
	Joe Guitar.
	Hey, Dan, hope you're doing good.
	Prayers for you guys and love your shows and just a prayer request to help with me and my family's health and finances.
	So we ask you to help Joe here with his family health and finances.
	And Zachary Mullet.
	He's struggling with burning coolant cessation and other problems in my mind.
	So we ask you, Lord, to touch his mind and just fill his mind with good things and positive things in you, Lord, and remove all these sensations and all these bad things that's going on in his mind and everything else, Lord.
	One second.
	Here we go.
	And Stephen McIntyre, he says...
	So I'm trying to get the prayer here, guys.
	I'm sorry.
	I guess he needs help getting an apartment.
	So we actually want to help him.
	And also...
	I'm just trying to know how this person could be.
	And help him.
	You know, he's overcome the addiction such as porn and satanic evils.
	To try to fight spiritual.
	I didn't pre-read these, so I apologize guys.
	So, uh, we actually help Mr. McIntyre here.
	And to keep his afflictions away, and his addictions away, and help him get this apartment and everything.
	So, um... Let me just read out loud here, so... Thank you Dan, it means a lot.
	I've been praying for you every day, sometimes more than once a day.
	And pray about something else and I'll slide in another prayer there for you in the measure.
	Also wanted to clear a few things up.
	I guess I didn't wear my original email clearly.
	Because we did a prayer for him last week.
	So I guess he wants to wear this clearly.
	I live on the east coast of Canada and thanks to Global Communications Takeover we're in the midst of a housing crisis where people with good jobs and elderly are homeless.
	Living in cars and tents because of the invasion of migrants and nothing new building built here.
	I have an apartment, it's borderline unavailable, and a landlord is trying to evict us.
	So far, underhanded tactics have been fired on him, and on myself, and daughter, and still together.
	So more specifically, I am asking for prayers that we find more safe, secure place and call home, and for all the people who are homeless right now to find home.
	So Lord, we ask you to help Mr. McIntyre with his, uh, Help to find a more safer apartment, more safer home for him and his family.
	And we ask you to help all the homeless, Lord.
	All the homeless everywhere that are out there.
	People sleeping on the streets right now in this cold winter month.
	And we ask you to keep them warm, keep them fed, keep them with drink and clothing, Lord.
	And we ask you to help these homeless folks out there that really need it.
	and we ask you in your mighty name and thank you so much for everybody uh all the callers we pray for them as well and everybody listening and watching online we ask you to be with them lord as well and um once again we ask you to protect us all from the forces of evil we ask you jesus yeshua messiah to pour your blood upon all of us and protect our dreams protect our thoughts protect our Any which avenue that the enemy could take, we ask you to block those avenues, Lord.
	In your mighty name we pray.
	Amen.
	Amen.
	Not play, pray.
	Yeah.
	So this has been an awesome program tonight, man.
	And speaking of good news, I want to point out, y'all brought up, I think she said about Muslims, whatever.
	But I don't know if y'all heard this two weeks ago, the whole Gaza thing going on with Israel and all that.
	But anyway, it was a supernatural move of God in Gaza.
	Hundreds of Muslims reportedly met Jesus in the dream.
	Neo-converted.
	So they're saying hundreds of over 200 at least of Muslims all had to dream in the same night of Jesus.
	Jesus revisited them in a dream and they all converted.
	So if that's not the power of God, I don't know what is.
	But yeah, God bless them.
	Because God could move in mysterious ways, and uh, and I think he uses sleep paralysis and everything else and spiritual attacks to wake people up.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And um, you know, the people who are already in faith, he uses it, like we said earlier, to forge you through the fire as well.
	To get your faith stronger and all your attributes.
	And like I said at the beginning of the show, I know I had a microphone problem, but uh, at the beginning of the show, it's, it's, I don't, I can't describe it with words, when you feel the Holy Spirit work through you, And Jesus worked with you when you were counting one of these things.
	The word invincible, okay?
	It's not you invincible, by the way, but the word invincible is an understatement.
	You feel this surge of power, and if you have hair, well, I don't have hair, but your hair will stand up at the back of your neck, because the power, and I'm telling you, all your attributes will go through the roof.
	Your courage, your faith, everything will just go through, your belief will just go through the roof.
	And when you witness the powers of evil, and when you witness them fall by the hand of God, it's amazing.
	It's the best feeling in the world.
	And it's like an Alexa.
	You just don't want to come down from it.
	Not to talk New Agey and anything like that, but it's such a great feeling, it really is.
	So you want to disclose anything before we go?
	Actually, I got some slides I want to bring up real quick.
	So we talked about the hat man and the hood figure.
	These two are the most common what they've seen.
	And during the show, let me show you some slides here.
	These are just depictions that people draw and all that of how they feel and what they witness.
	And some of this stuff looks ridiculous, but it's not guys.
	I mean, I...
	I experienced a lot of these things myself and this is what people go through and this is the best depictions of what people could actually put out.
	And these here, you'll see this, uh, you'll see a lot of sexual encounters in dreams.
	Like Vicky said, people wake up masturbating and all that stuff.
	That's the sexual encounters in your dreams.
	And those are from, um, incubus and succubus demons.
	And, uh, there was one called Alp.
	In many cases, it's considered a demon, but in some instances, Alp was created from spirits.
	They say recently dead relatives, but we know relatives can't haunt you.
	So they're demons, plain and simple.
	Also, Lilith is a big contributor to this.
	She tortures men in their sleep.
	She causes crib death and everything else.
	It's a demonic figure, Lilithic, in Judaic mythology, which is not mythology's truth.
	Supposedly a premortal she-demon is firmly the first wife of Adam, which is not true.
	She is presumed to be mentioned in the Bible, in Hebrew, in the book of Isaiah, and lately in antiquity.
	So anyway, long story short, Lilith, she's represented by the novel.
	If you've ever seen the movie The Knowing you'll see aliens and UFOs right?
	And you'll see a screech owl too.
	A white screech owl.
	Not that a white screech owl is a demon, no.
	But she uses the white screech owl as a depiction of her.
	And it's crazy because the makeup company L'Oreal It's kind of crazy.
	I want years ago.
	You can't do it anymore about When you go to L'Oreal's company Facebook page, I'm sorry the website you go to the financial reports, right?
	And when the page loaded there was a clear white page and you see the image of white screech out on the page before the page loaded
	Yeah, it was nuts man and some of the pictures of the woman, you know taking pictures with the makeup on in the reflection of the right you see a white screech owl Crazy stuff man, but Lilith is responsible for a lot of if you've seen the movie the knowing you know what I'm talking about I do yeah, I've seen that man being tortured in their sleep and all that and if you notice Brian and that movie was a lot of association with Men being tortured also aliens and UFOs, which we know what they are, you know with demons and UFOs are all connected
	Yep.
	That movie was something to really ponder on.
	Yeah.
	I don't even know.
	I've watched that movie several times.
	Yeah.
	Thank you for the donation whoever did and thank you all who've been donating too.
	We appreciate it.
	Without you guys the show is not possible.
	I'll tell you that.
	Absolutely.
	Then there's Incubus.
	It's a demon male form who does sexual things to women.
	That's why you hear about, like she was mentioning, people wake up masturbating.
	Uh, because these demons, they literally attack you, uh, in a sexual form way, you know what I mean?
	They'll give you the dreams of, like, nasty stuff, whatever the case, to make you, excuse my language, horny, okay?
	They make you horny, and, you know, they do, and some of the times they actually have literal sex with you.
	There's different ways they do it.
	They'll make you masturbate or wake you up in the middle of the night.
	They'll actually have sex with you too.
	It depends on what happens.
	Then you get the succubus, which is the female form.
	The succubus attacks men sexually in their sleep.
	So you got Incubus is uh male and which is you know yeah the male and the female plain and simple.
	Succubus and Incubus.
	So these are demons that definitely pray against because um yeah.
	Bad stuff man, and I'm being honest too when I was younger and all that.
	Yeah, these I'll tell you right now.
	There's demon definitely torn to me.
	That's for sure.
	So And I think most men could say that so and a demon and you know If you know what I know a demon is the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim, you know, I mean we talked about that all the time You know, the giants that were on the earth and the men of renown, when they were killed in the flood and all that, and even afterwards, their spirits are cursed to roam the earth until Judgment Day.
	That's why when Jesus was confronted by a legion, they asked him, are you here to cast us away before our time?
	Which solidifies the book of Enoch when it talks about that.
	Because again, the book of Enoch says that here until Judgment Day.
	And when you read Matthew and all that, because Matthew and Luke, that talks about Jesus encountering a legion, the demons asked him.
	It's a legion of demons in one person.
	They asked him, are you here to send us away before our time?
	That's why Jesus allowed them to go into the swine.
	Dennis Wayne ran off and all that and that's why he did that for because it was The father's promise that they were gonna be here until judgment time, you know, I mean and so that's why so an alien abductions are definitely a big contributor to sleep paralysis and now like I said Actually, I don't think I said on the show here, but I should have said it last week and I was told Vicky earlier before the show started and
	When my sleep paralysis started, what I thought when I seen this alien, reptilian, it shined this thing in my face and knocked me right out.
	And from that day forward had major forms of sleep paralysis and all this other stuff.
	So alien abduction is definitely, you know, I don't know what happened to me after that.
	I don't, God knows what they did, but there's been other times in my life that I went through this certain lights and everything else.
	And two of the times I had people with me and we even lost or gained time.
	I'm talking about hours on end.
	So yeah, that's a big contributor to sleep paralysis and everything.
	There's alien abduction and all that, which we, again, they're fallen angels or unclean spirits.
	That's what they are.
	So guys, also, prayer requests.
	If you want our prayer requests for the shows, we've got to do this every week now.
	Truthradioshowatoutlook.com.
	Email us and just tell you a prayer request and we'll put it on the air here.
	It's very important to do that, guys.
	Remember, trust the Bible.
	That's it.
	The only place you should be trusting.
	And again, if you like the show guys you want to contribute to the show, we got a PayPal, Venmo, a Cash App, and a Ko-Fi site.
	Four different ways to support this operation.
	Actually, I should rephrase that.
	Five different ways.
	The most important way to support this operation is praying for us constantly because Me, Brian, David Carrico, it's not a secret now, but the last several weeks we've been under heavy attacks, spiritually and physically, guys.
	So, we know what that's about.
	You know, the enemy's attacking us.
	We've been having some killer shows, but you know what?
	At the other end of that, you know, the devil doesn't like that.
	So, he attacks us in any which way he can, and that's why we're gonna just keep putting the pedal to the metal.
	The more the devil attacks us, the more we're gonna come out.
	Absolutely, Dan.
	Absolutely.
	Um, do you care if I have a few announcements?
	Just a few.
	Sure.
	Um, so, um, on Visual Disturbance Channel and also on FOJC Radio Underground Church on Tuesday night, you're going to have at 7 p.m.
	Eastern time on both channels.
	At the same time, we're going to have Drawing Living Waters is coming back.
	Drawing Living Waters is coming back.
	Back with me and Brother Adam.
	We are going to be bringing that back as far as the new episode 4.
	And last week we premiered the Giants.
	It was the Drawling Mars series, but it was Genesis in those days program.
	Go check it out.
	It's on the FOJC Radio Underground Church.
	And also we're going to have This week on Tuesday, Genesis, The Trees That Reach to Heaven.
	Looking forward to showing that to everybody.
	It's a really cool, it's just a really cool concept and everything we did in that program.
	The artwork that Brother Adam did was just phenomenal.
	And also... Sorry about that.
	Oh, did you get me muted?
	No, I found her Facebook page, I mean YouTube page.
	Oh, and also on FOJC Underground Church this Sunday night at 9 p.m.
	Eastern Time.
	We're going to be doing the Clear as Mud Mud Fossils and Mud Flood.
	Me and Brother David are going to be having that on Underground Church.
	So mark that in the calendars and we appreciate if y'all join us for those two programs.
	That's awesome.
	And guys, if you want to follow David Carrico and Donna, FOJCRadio.com.
	You can listen to their broadcast every Friday night, 7pm Eastern.
	And also, tons of prayers and all kinds of stuff.
	The Hot Topics page here.
	Is like all kinds of cool stuff.
	They have printouts of how to pray against certain things and also exposing holidays, you know, certain holidays and Masonic stuff and everything else.
	So please check them out.
	F-O-J-C, it's Freedom.
	I'm sorry, it follows Jesus Christ Radio.
	And this is Vicki's page here, Through the Black.
	So hit subscribe on the channel and I'm going to put that in the chat.
	So if you want to follow Vicky on YouTube guys and her awesome podcast here, there's a link in the chat room there.
	I'm going to put on Rumble 2.
	So yeah, check her out guys and check out all the shows.
	Interview with a Demon.
	And all kinds of cool satanic sacrifice in New Mexico and all kinds of cool stuff and also again Visual disturbance, which is uh, brother Brian here So check him out on youtube as well and subscribe to him And Neffleman biblical giants was his last video here tons of stuff on giants and everything else.
	So, please subscribe to brother Let me put him under here yeah, he's going to chat room so she's please subscribe to brother brian here So yeah, good broadcast today.
	Thank you guys for the calls and everything.
	Is there anything else you want to put out before you take off?
	I believe that's it, Dan.
	Yeah, I did do the last program I did was disappearing planes.
	It's still up.
	That video is a lot of controversy over on all over the internet as far as the Malaysia 370 plane and everything and the lovely drones or these lovely orbs taking the plane and making it disappear out of existence.
	So go check it out.
	I did some comparison from the Israel and Gaza of the whole situation.
	You know, there's three lights that Popped up over top of the war.
	So it was kind of interesting how they... I was just kind of tying them all together.
	So go check it out.
	It's about an hour long program.
	Disappearing Planes.
	That's the last video that I did.
	A bit of a disturbance.
	So go check it out when you get an opportunity.
	And then also check out the JFK program.
	The Kennedy's assassination ritual cult murder.
	Me and brother David Carrico did this last Sunday on FOJC Rumble.
	That one was really, really epic.
	That was one of my favorite programs that we've done in a while.
	Every program that we do is great and just awesome, but I really enjoyed this one.
	It was one of those ones that we were super excited to get that one published and made and broadcast for everybody to watch.
	I'll put the link in the chat.
	And I hope everybody goes and checks it out when you get an opportunity.
	But yeah, Dan.
	Thank you, man.
	I appreciate you always having me on.
	Yeah, put the disappearing plane up there, Brother Dan.
	I'd appreciate it.
	Yeah, throw it up there.
	Thank you, sir.
	Thank you, sir.
	You're welcome.
	All the links are in the description, by the way, guys.
	So, if you can't get in the chat room, go into the description of the video on YouTube or Rumble here.
	All these links we talked about are in the chat room and everything.
	So, pretty cool stuff, man.
	So, yeah, it's been a great show.
	and if you guys want to talk personal about stuff you have like you need advice or something email us truthradioshowatoutlook.com if you want to keep it confidential stuff you need help on and I know when it comes to sexuality guys a lot of people are embarrassed by it you know I mean and I understand you know I mean and people especially guys okay young men a lot of people are embarrassed by or women you know I mean you're embarrassed to talk about it publicly or put it you know out in public
	And that's understandable, but if you want advice or help with that, guys, please email me truthradioshow.com and we'll talk about it, you know what I mean?
	And I'll even give you a call if you want to help you out with that.
	We are going to do a show, I don't know when, but on sexuality, because it's very important that, especially with a married couple, you know what I mean?
	Very important information what the Bible says about marriage, about sexuality, and everything else, because there's a lot of Christians out there who have a lot of questions of what they can and can't do, things like that.
	Yeah, and it's right in the scriptures, but we want to do a show on that to bring this out and have people call in to talk about this because we're all adults here, guys, and especially if you're in marriage, you definitely got sexual questions, you know what I mean?
	And rightfully, you know, there's nothing wrong with it, you know what I mean, to talk about it.
	Nothing wrong to bring it up, and this is what we should be doing, you know what I mean, as children of the Lord, you know what I mean?
	We can't be embarrassed to talk about these things and if you are, you know, I mean I understand that again truth radio show out calm You know give you you a call or just talk an email whatever you want to do.
	That's fine But yeah, and if you if you're a lady you want to talk to another lady I could hand you over to a sister Donna Donna Carrico or David Carrico.
	He could help you as well You know, I mean so we got me him

▲