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He's out of shape for 4 years and they just took out Dan Bodondi.
And we are live guys, welcome to Spiritual Warfare Friday.
I'm your host Dan Bodondi and Brian Reese and we also got Trey Harris on the line here and also my brother Jason Bodondi is in the studio.
So what's going on everybody and the title of tonight's broadcast is The Kundalini in the Churches, The Counterfeit Holy Spirit.
So basically we're going to prove tonight guys because You know, this really irritates me because I just actually found this out, you know, when I was doing some research and all that from other ministries, right?
These evangelists that are defending, they're saying, oh, it's not the Kundalini Spirit in the churches.
It's people that can't, you know, they're not using the Holy Spirit, so they react different.
They try to downplay it, say it's not the Kundalini Spirit.
And I've seen so many ministries do this.
In the last few days, I've been watching video after video, and they'll talk about this, but they'll try to defend it and downplay it.
So basically the crap from Benny Himmel and everything, they try to defend that.
This is Holy Spirit and all that.
No, it's not.
And we're going to prove that tonight.
Me, Trey, and Brian here.
Because this is unreal, man.
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So here we go, guys.
Before we begin, I just want to Read this verse, yeah.
Now the serpent was...
This is Genesis 3.
Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast in the field in which the Lord God had made.
And he said to the woman, Yea, have God said, You shall eat of the tree of every tree of the garden.
And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat from the tree, the fruit of the tree of the garden, but the fruit of the tree which is the mist of the garden, God said, You shall not eat, neither shall you touch it, or you shall die.
And the serpent said unto the woman, You shall not surely die, for God does not know the day that you eat the fruit.
Your eyes will be opened, and you shall be as God's known good and evil.
One more verse here, because this pertains to what we're going to talk about, guys.
2 Corinthians 2.11 says, 3 and 4 by fear less by any means as a serpent beguiled Eve through the subtlety of so your mind should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ for if he is that cometh preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached or he has received another spirit whom we have not received Yeah, how you doing Dan?
Welcome to Spiritual Warfare Friday everybody.
We got the two brothers in Rhode Island.
We got the guy from North Carolina and we got the guy from Kentucky.
some deep details, we're gonna show you some videos and all that too.
So about what I first do, what's up Brian, what's up Trey?
What's going on guys?
Welcome, yeah, how you doing Diane?
Welcome to Spiritual Warfare Friday everybody.
We got the two brothers in Rhode Island.
We got the guy from North Carolina, we got the guy from Kentucky and, oh Kentucky and we're coming together tonight.
So we got a, sorry about the little kick up at the beginning.
We was going live and Dan was like, we are live!
We hope you're cutting up and having a good time.
So welcome everybody to Spiritual Warfare Friday.
So we're glad to have Trey here and Jason.
Oh yeah.
It's nice to have the bull, the boy and the milk man back together.
Then yeah, this is great.
So guys, we're broadcasting on Rumble and YouTube, so it's working out great so far.
So if you're watching on Rumble, what's going on?
If you're watching on YouTube, what's going on?
So guys, engage in the chat room for our fellowship there, and we'll try to get to everybody's questions and comments and everything later on.
We're actually going to take phone calls as well later.
So yeah this is gonna be an exciting show because um you know Trey's wife she grew up in these churches and she you know she's passed out now but she was gonna come on and give some testimony but which Trey already knows these things so uh he's gonna talk about this and this is just something that all of us been like nitpicking at for a while And we've been meaning to do a show on this stuff.
Because this is some dangerous stuff, man.
And that's unfortunate.
Millions, not thousands, millions of Christians are actually falling for this baloney.
And they think it's the Holy Spirit.
And you know what I mean?
The Bible says that God is not the author of confusion.
Or idiocracy, I should say that too.
Because the way these people act, it's like the Holy Spirit is not going to make you act like a fool.
You know what I mean?
So guys, what's your thoughts on this before we get into the slides and all that?
Go ahead, Trey, if you want to start off.
Well, I just want to share some additional verses real quick.
Sure.
So, anybody who's listened to, you know, listened to my podcast and the show for any amount of time knows that I have two go-to passages that I bring up on almost legitimately every show.
One of them is Matthew 24, because it's so relevant, not only just for today, but especially for this topic.
And this is what Jesus says.
He says, take heed that no man deceive you.
For many shall come saying in my name.
So let's get that.
Many shall come in my name, in the name of Jesus Christ, and say that I am the Christ.
So that can be taken a couple of different ways.
They're gonna come and they're gonna say they're Jesus Christ, but a lot of that, what gets overlooked, is many are gonna come in my name, in the name of Jesus Christ, they're gonna say that I, Jesus, am the Christ, and they're going to deceive many.
And you shall hear of wars, rumors of wars.
So, you know, we all know that these are the birth pains, but go down to verse 11.
And he says, And many false prophets shall rise and deceive many.
And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
For those of you Greek scholars that like to use your You know, your Strong's Concordance and things like that, that word iniquity in the Greek, that's anomia, that literally means without law.
You look it up in several concordances, it's going to tell you without divine law, without mosaic law.
These are people who are spurning the front of their Bibles.
And I think we're gonna see some of that as we get into it today.
I have no idea what you guys have planned.
Um, but I'm excited to see it because this is what it's all about.
It's exposing these false prophets and these false teachers.
And as you guys know, a lot of this Kundalini stuff, these are people who claim to be prophets.
And I don't know if you got the video I sent you to your email, but that's a guy that claims to be a prophet.
And I'm telling you in that video, a demon gets summoned in that, in that service.
And like, you're talking voodoo drums in the background.
It's very disturbing stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I actually got to check it.
But I got a video here too.
Get the show rolling with this.
Yeah.
So basically, so people know what we're talking about because you probably have two minutes to say what the heck are you guys even talking about?
So there's a couple videos this guy did.
He's called revealing truth.
That's his YouTube channel.
So please subscribe to his channel guys and he gave me permission to use his videos I got some other videos which we're gonna like, you know, later on just skim through Slowly, you know quickly.
I'm sorry because I'm YouTube you want to use so much video before you get hit with a copyright But I do got permission from this guy here.
He shows you some stuff.
So let's just show you guys what we're talking about.
Yeah So, this is a YouTube channel.
...grace, mercy, and peace and is a short comparison of what we see in the church today being credited to the Holy Spirit and the exact same manifestations in the occult.
At the end, we'll look at some scriptures showing why this isn't the Holy Spirit.
These big churches, guys.
Yeah.
I think they were smoking something.
Yeah.
So they want you to think that this stuff here is the Holy Spirit.
Yeah.
*laughter* Looks like they got a bunch of Joker toxin.
Yeah.
So you guys get the point with this, right?
And so, there's two other ones I want to show you too.
It's... Benny Hinn here.
He's huge for this stuff.
You may not understand this.
I don't either.
I don't either.
But when the Lord talks to me, I obey Him.
It's just that simple.
There's nothing more to it.
My God!
Are you ready, God?
Watch this, this is madness, right?
Fire!
Take it!
He swings his jacket and people go flying.
I can't play too much of this because I don't get permission.
Take it!
Take that on it!
So you guys get the point, because we've got other videos to show you too, but man, yeah, if you actually believe that's from the Holy Spirit, man, you guys, I don't know, man, you got some problems, because, yeah, that is like some demonic stuff, man.
And then we got people in the phony karate stuff, They say they use chi now works on their own students and Because they're tied into that chi, which is the same kundalini spirit.
And they tie into that.
So, of course, it's going to work on net people.
But it's not going to work on a person that knows better than a person of God.
You know what I mean?
So, they go into Hinduism.
And, again, these karate studios, right?
They'll actually have the master.
He's just sitting on a chair and moving his hand.
People going flying.
So in regards to, you know, half of it is fake, yes, but the other half isn't, because they have this, they harness a spirit that the students they have in themselves, so of course it's going to work on them, just like Benny Hinn, he wears his jacket, the whole crowd goes flying.
So the question is, is that the Holy Spirit, you know what I mean?
Now that video you've just seen, that video itself, where they were Benny Hinn, that ministry is saying that is the Holy Spirit, you know what I mean?
They were actually defending, they say it's a raw anointing of the Holy Spirit.
So this is like the whole charismatic, the whole, um, Um, you know that these um, you know, what were they called?
Um, I these Christians out there that actually defend this, you know, I mean and it is it's crazy man.
So what are your thoughts guys?
Yeah, just, um, I'm sorry, Dan.
No, I'm sorry, it was Evangelist questions.
I'm sorry.
Go ahead, Brian.
I gotcha.
I thought I was talking over somebody.
Excuse me.
But, uh, you know, it's ancient.
This stuff goes back generations, millennia.
Like, it goes back thousands of years.
This stuff is ancient.
You know, like you say in the beginning, you know, I think you quoted, uh, Genesis 3, uh, 15.
Yeah.
About the subtle serpent, the guard, and all that.
Like, literally, the Imitate between the seed of the woman and the serpent, you know, we're talking.
And what's so ironic about it, like you can go into archaeology and look and there's all kinds of petroglyphs, hieroglyphics, looking at there's men and these serpents, you know, they're literally combining and it opens up gates and stuff.
It's insane.
Like it's ancient.
It's ancient stuff.
And the meditation, like meditation trails, We've done a show before that, on that before, just talking about it vaguely, but meditation trails are everywhere, it seems like, anymore, in these parks and stuff, so.
And they're talking about, and it literally is inviting, Kundalini kind of narrative.
I mean, it's, you know, this enlightenment, you're a light bearer, you're a light warrior, and all this, about ascension, and all these different things, and these are ancient, these are ancient tactics that are being re, you know, repackaged into a modern day
uh... realm and uh... it's it's it's wild stuff dan it's insane you know i don't know totally insane you can go back to china i mean i've talked about this on other shows uh... and uh... you know like the you know they're teaching meditation in schools uh... all kinds of stuff you know you go into jobe was it jobe i think i got uh... scripture i just lost it uh... jobe talks about Well forgive me I had it up here.
One moment guys.
And while you're doing that I'm just going to show you guys real quick to actually tell you what the Kundalini is.
There's a couple slides here.
So basically the Kundalini is literally a serpent spirit.
You know what I mean?
And what it does is it wraps around your spine and it's like a quill snake and that's where it gets its power from.
And it's trying to harness Brahma.
You know what I mean?
And it aligns with the chakras.
This is all New Age, you know, deep yoga stuff, Hinduism.
So basically, they want you to, um, the chakras, right?
And they want you to align the chakras.
And it brings in the kundalini through the third eye, the pineal gland.
And it wraps around your spine and all that.
Then they say it brings Brahma, which is God's spirit.
Which is not our God's spirit, but you know, they believe it's God's power and spirit through the Brahma.
You know what I mean?
And it's so satanic as it comes, man.
It's not even funny, man.
And it's, like the cobra, it's a symbol of the Kundalini power, cosmic energy coiled, and shivering within the man, and the spires seekers to overcome misdeeds and suffering by lifting the serpent power of the spine into God-realization, known as Brahma, you know.
And this is some of the slides here.
And those different colored balls, guys, they have, we're going to do a whole show on more on Kundalini itself, but each one of those is called a chakra, and...
And, um, now here's the thing.
Everybody, all these, uh, practitioners, they don't necessarily agree on the colors most of the time.
The colors will vary from different ones and what they mean.
But yeah, and this is just like, um, this is, deep levels of yoga, this is Hinduism and Buddhism and everything else, how they want to summon that serpent spirit, you know what I mean?
And again, it's like to do this, you have to align your chakras, which is a bunch of garbage, you know what I mean?
Each chakra represents something, you know, spirit, whatever cosmic energies to fully embrace you.
And what it does is literally, it's opening your pinnacle in the third eye, right?
And it's literally opening yourself into possession because that's exactly what it is.
When you have the kundalini in you, that's 100% pure possession, you know what I mean?
And they want you to believe it's spiritual enlightenment.
It brings brahma to you or anything else.
And this is some crazy stuff.
And they're doing the same thing in the churches today.
When you see a guy jump off the wheelchair, right?
Yeah, that stuff is real.
Yeah, some of it's fake, yeah.
But it's real, but they don't show you what happens to the guy afterwards.
Because the serpent spirit gets into that person.
That's why they always touch the forehead.
Because the pastor, which is false pastors, they insert the kundalini through the forehead, through the penile gland.
It goes into the body, right around the spine, makes that guy jump off the chair or do off his crutches or something.
and it performs miracles, but the thing is, again, they don't show you what happens the day after.
The guy's ten times worse, you know what I mean?
Physically, mentally, and spiritually, you know what I mean?
This is a dangerous thing going on in the churches, man.
Go ahead, Brian.
I'm sorry.
Well, just to add to that, to comment on what you just said.
So you have, you know, opening up the third eye, you see the blending of today's church is blending, and they're blending this, I guess I always say, new realm of thinking, and they're tying all this stuff that's new realm of thinking, and they're tying all this stuff that's Kundalini Spirit into the modern-day And I want to point this out.
This is a verse I want to bring up.
Matthew 6, verse 22, the light of the body is the eye.
And therefore, if thy eye be single, the whole body shall be full of light.
And then you go down to the next verse in 23.
But if thy eye be evil, the whole body shall be full of darkness.
If the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness?
Well, if you look into You know, like metaverse stuff they're putting into their realm and all these different things.
I mentioned this on the show before, but whenever they, like a DMT, LSD, or Ayahuasca narrative, if you're tight, they've been doing studies on
The effects of, you know, like these headsets and stuff and all this Oculus and things that gives you the same type of, in the gland, it literally does give you that same type of feeling that you'd be if you was on DMT or LSD or whatever.
And, uh, I just think it's interesting how, you know, they're, they're gonna, they're gonna harness these things in the same, what you just read, when she's talking about the, all the chakras and stuff like that.
We're gonna be getting talked about more and more in the show, but, uh, you know, it's, um, it ties into this worship of serpentine spirits.
And, um, I think, you know, when I heard, you know, we go to 5G and now you're gonna, you know, talk about 6G frequency and stuff like that.
I keep hearing a lot of things.
That it's going to be tied into harnessing energy, like harvesting energy from humans.
So if you look at that, and then you've got these other people saying that we're going to have this Christ consciousness, and we've got to open up our third eye and our chakras, and our spine is an antenna.
Like when you activate your third eye, you can go down to your chakras and activate the Holy Spirit.
Then it's just like, really?
That's not biblical at all.
I just think there's a lot of blasphemous stuff in it, and they're blending and mixing it.
It's very scary.
It's very scary stuff.
I just want to mention that because that's where we're headed with all this metaverse tactics and whatnot, and if they can somehow harness That energy of some shape or form.
However, you know, God's, obviously God has made us with a spine and a pineal gland and all these different things.
But I think it's inverted.
You know, like Satan always liked to invert different things and change things and flip them upside down and make them like a nice little wrapped up package.
But I think it's, uh, there's more to it than that.
You know, obviously God made us with these pineal glands in our brain, but I don't, I really don't think he wants us to use them for what they want us to use them for.
You know what I'm saying, Dan and Trey?
So it's really trippy stuff.
I know it's a little bit off the path, but I thought it was good for the show here.
But yeah, so the metaverse stuff and getting tuned in, I really do think it has to do with what we're talking about tonight.
You know, it's pretty insane.
So not to go down too far of a rabbit trail.
But I can tie in the past two shows y'all have done with one of mine and this show real quick in one simple sentence.
So, I haven't watched the Spiritual Warfare Monday that was done on Rumble regarding the islands in Antarctica.
But those symbols, those islands are named after.
are very prominent in alchemy with the philosopher's stone, which is all about ascension.
Literally, when you study alchemy and you get past all the symbolism, it is literally, the point is to ascend into godhood, right?
This is what Christianism is about.
This is literally the, I mean, you're talking, you know, Da Vinci Code stuff here, right?
Now, when you talk about aligning the chakras and things like that, That these all feed in together.
So people probably, I don't even know if you guys know this, but there is a whole branch of Kabbalah that is just dedicated to releasing chakras and getting the serpent of wisdom that exists in the sephirot tree to crawl up your spine.
Hmm.
So I stumbled on that one completely by accident when I was working on a documentary that I still have not finished.
But I mean, I mean, this stuff is insane.
It goes so deep.
I mean, you're talking this is the thing that is going to bring Mystery Babylon together fully.
It's going to be this.
It's going to be this lie.
That, and these hyper-charismatic New Apostolic Reformation churches, they're prepping people for it.
Because this stuff that they're doing is going to feed right into this alchemy, which all Rosicrucianism is, is alchemy with a Christian veneer.
It's literally all it is.
It's mysticism.
Christian mysticism.
So it's gonna fit perfectly into this.
It fits perfectly into Sufi mysticism from Islam.
Because they also had a branch of alchemy.
It's gonna fit in perfectly into Hinduism.
Perfect into Kabbalah.
All of this stuff.
They're gonna wrap it up in a nice little bow.
And there's gonna be your woman.
That's riding on the beast.
Right there.
It's all right here.
You just have to know what you're looking at.
Yeah.
And I think you said something about that last week, Brian.
Yeah.
You just got to piece it together.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, that's literally what it is.
It's a giant puzzle.
I tell people all the time, magic is not a power.
Magic is a language.
And if you can speak a language, you can speak out against it.
Absolutely.
It's that simple.
That's why the Bible says, know your enemy and expose him.
Amen.
And this stuff turns people off, too.
And my brother, for example, right, years ago when he wasn't in the faith, right, so I run into this charismatic church, right, and that was the dumbest mistake to do.
So basically he comes in at the wrong time.
He was late.
So I...
Remember that church in Central Falls there?
So basically, he comes into the church, right, and walks in, and at the time, everybody's like jumping around, convulsing, speaking in these false tongues and everything else, and my brother looked at me and goes, yeah, see you later.
What was your experience, Jason?
One of the preachers walked up to me, like, mumbling something, and they tried to touch me in their head, touch my headache.
I smacked his hand away.
Like, get away from me.
Like, I'm out of here.
Yeah.
So basically they turned you off from the whole thing altogether, right?
Like anything that we got at the time.
Cause my brother used to be in the occult and everything else and God bless him.
Now he's out of that stuff.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
Even then I knew like there's something wrong.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So yeah, man, and at the time I'm questioning this thing too.
I'm like, whoa, what the heck is going on here?
You know what I mean?
I called a friend of mine too because we went to this Zion Bible Academy from the church.
So we stood there for the weekend.
There's this big Bible Academy place and I'm trying to speak in these tongues and do this stuff because he said that's how you get You know, baptized with the Holy Spirit.
I'm trying my hardest, and I thought I was deceiving God.
And I called a buddy of mine at the pay phone, and he told me he was a pastor.
He goes, Dan, call your mother and get out of there now, and I'll explain when you get home.
He goes, no, that was the Holy Spirit telling you to get the hell out of there.
You know what I mean?
And plain and simple, you know.
So, this is some dangerous stuff, and a lot of people are being misled by this.
And this goes into the tongues too, man.
And, you know, certain tongues, but mainly we're focused today, guys, because we could go down so many rabbit holes with this.
It's a Kundalini Spirit and they're drawing people in by the thousands, you know what I mean, to these churches.
These healing pit ministers and these people like, yo, you've seen some of the videos, yeah?
We can show you a couple more in a minute, yeah?
But I mean, this is some bad stuff, man.
And again, the evangelists are out there defending us.
You know, one of the videos I asked permission to use, they gave me permission, yes.
It wasn't from the, um... Let me just go to that video here.
So I just want to show that because I just want to get that straight before, um... This person here, bring back the cross, they're actually defending it to say it's Roar Night and the Holy Spirit.
What Benny Hinn does.
But, um, the guy here, Revealing Truth, subscribe to his channel, guys.
He actually exposes what we're exposing as well.
That's the Kundalini in the churches, you know, I mean and it's very very few of us to actually do this But mostly big Christian organizations and all that and these people up on YouTube now They're actually defending this to say it's raw anointing So people could have different reactions and everything else and you know They try to make excuses for it to try and say this is of God, you know I mean, could you imagine the unbeliever walked into this thing?
And like my brother walked in and all of a sudden half the church is falling on their butts and they're gonna like hightail it out of there and you know smart way to do that though you know this is like unreal stuff and we're gonna expose that today and today we're gonna prove that this is not the Holy Spirit this is the Kundalini Spirit And, uh, Trey, uh, your wife, uh, you said she grew up in these churches, is that correct?
Yeah, so that was actually, I was going to share one of her stories.
Sure.
Uh, I know she wanted to share it, but like I said, she's had a long day.
Um, so just, we'll just keep it simple and say that we've got a 90 pound puppy who likes to escape from the fence.
So she spent today making sure that the underground fence to keep her in was installed and working so it took a lot out of her we've been working on it for weeks um but so one story i know she wanted to share was there was a time that they filled a kiddie pool full of water they blessed the water and it became holy water you had to stand in the water barefoot and this man she said
he kept trying to pop her in the forehead to get her to fall and she wouldn't fall and she said she could just feel that it wasn't right she said there was another lady i think i can't remember if this was at the same event but so but basically she wouldn't fall and finally the guy put his hand on i i'm remembering the details as i do it I could be wrong.
So eventually, the next time we record an episode together on our channel, I'll get her to tell the full story correctly.
But I believe they basically forced her to fall down.
Now, interestingly enough, we just found out that the guy doing this, just to show how much of a false prophet he is, he's a pizza enthusiast, if you catch my drift.
Wow.
Unreal.
So, uh, yeah, like major creep factor.
Um, but, and you know, she's, she's, she's been very gifted.
She can always tell when, when somebody is true or when they're false.
And, um, you know, she, she would say she's told stories about how Uh, the only thing I could think you could call them would be a prophecy open mic.
They'd have like ten prophets down front and you'd line up and they'd all speak these prophecies over you.
Like, I mean, I just call it a Christian fortune cookie because that's what it is.
It's just nonsense.
But she said that like these people would all talk about how this great prosperity and these blessings.
She even literally said that that one guy was like told this lady that new Mercedes you're wanting is right around the corner.
Like, you know, just vanity.
Hmm is what it is and this she went up to this one lady and she said it was the only lady that she felt the spirit of God on and all the lady told her was that she was gonna be like Ruth when she was older and you know I don't know what that means But, you know, I know my wife well enough to know that if she says the Spirit of God was on this lady, she was.
So, I don't know why she was hanging out with all these other people, but I'm, hey, I'm at least glad she was there so my wife could see the real versus the counterfeit.
But, you know, it's just nonsense stuff.
I remember one time we went to go lead worship, just me and her, because for those of you who don't know my background, I'm actually a, I was a worship leader in the Seeker Friendly Movement for years.
Um, and we went to go do this revival thing at this church, and there was this, this, this, this keyboardist.
I, I, like, I didn't know anything about it at the time, but it's basically, like, uh, uh, like, uh, the, the generic version of Kim Clement.
And I remember he was playing all these beautiful notes and then he was like, and now let us speak in our heavenly languages.
And I was like, I looked around and everybody started doing it.
And I looked at my wife and right there in the middle of the service, I said, what in the hell are these people doing?
What the hell has gotten into them?
She was like, what are you talking about?
I was like, she was like, I tried to tell you before we came here.
I was like, I had to see it for myself.
It was literally the only reason I had never been to a church like this.
I wanted to see it for myself.
But I do know, look, I didn't grow up in charismatic churches, but I do believe in the gifts of the spirit.
I do.
I do believe in speaking in tongues.
I do believe in prophecy.
I believe in these things.
But I also know that the Bible says if you're going to speak in tongues, it can be no more than two or three, and there must always be an interpreter present.
Because Paul says that the speaking in tongues is to edify the people out there, and if a stranger comes in and sees this, they're not going to be edified because they don't know what the heck you're talking about.
a paraphrase of what he said, but that's the general idea.
And they pointed out too, Paul, that literally turns people away in layman's terms.
I mean, turns these unbelievers.
They're going to be like, what the heck are they talking about?
Like you said, and it's just vain Babylon.
That's all it is, you know, unless it's satisfied.
Well, see, and it's funny you say that, because when you talk about Babylon, you talk about speaking in tongues.
The reason to go back and read the book of Acts.
The reason that tongues of the cloven tongues of fire fell on the apostles on the day of Pentecost in the book of Acts is because it was reversing the curse of Babel.
At Babel, the tongues were confounded.
The languages were confounded.
To keep people separate, but the gift of the gospel for the gospel to go forth that confounding must be It's that's about, about, you know, the intricacies of tongues, fine.
But as long as we can all agree, and we should all be able to agree, that the reason that tongues were given was to reverse the curse of Babel so that the gospel could go forth to all the nations.
Because, I'm sure as you guys know, we don't all speak the same language around the world.
Yeah.
So therefore, we must have the gift of tongues to break that barrier.
See, the gospel, the kingdom of heaven, is not of this world.
Jesus said, if my kingdom were of this world, my disciples would fight.
But it's not.
He said, the kingdom of heaven is within you.
This is a kingdom that knows no limits.
And therefore, the languages cannot stop it.
And therefore, the gospel will go forth, regardless of nation, creed, tribe, tongue, all of this.
The gospel will go forth.
And if people would just realize this, Sorry guys, went out again.
And go.
There we go.
If people would just realize this, then we wouldn't have a problem.
If people would just read their dag-gum Bibles, and they would read it front to back.
That's why on our TN Scripture sub stack page, we're going through the five books of Moses right now, week by week.
And we're looking for Christ first and foremost throughout it all.
So I highly encourage you to read it.
Shameless plug there.
But if people would read it front to back like that, if they would start there after they understand who Christ is, what he has done, they've got the gospel, they're firm in the doctrine that Christ taught, go back and read the front of the book and you'll get the full picture.
And he means Genesis.
And yeah, because I know my day evangelist.
Oh, no, just uh, uh Matthew through revelation.
No genesis through revelation not you know, yeah Last time I checked this was a this was a whole book.
Yeah, you don't start a look I wouldn't I wouldn't sit here and pick up, you know, the lost symbol or that's a really bad example I shouldn't have pointed at that book Um, but I wouldn't pick up any novel that I have on this shelf behind me and start two-thirds of the way through the book.
Yeah.
That's about, that's about as, that's dumber than a box of rocks.
Yeah, because you're like, who the heck's this character?
Who's that?
You know what I mean?
And same thing applies in the Bible, because you will not know what Jesus is talking about if you don't know the Old Testament, because how many times it says, as it is written, I'll give you another one.
How would you understand what predestination is if you don't read the front of your book?
you got to know like the abomination desolation when you referenced it from Daniel, right?
How would you even know what that is if you had never read the Old Testament?
You know what I mean?
So that's why it's important.
I'll give you another one.
How would you understand what predestination is if you don't read the front of your book?
Because if you read Romans 9 through 11, which is what people love to go for predestination, if you read that, you realize in Romans chapter 9, Paul quotes the book of Hosea, chapter 1, verse 10.
You who are not a people will be called children of the living God.
Well, he was talking about the northern tribes of Israel, Ephraim.
Who was blessed in Genesis 48 and said, you will become many nations.
Because it was predestined for that to happen.
God knew what would happen.
It was foreordained for that to happen.
And through their idolatry and them being cast out, God still made it happen.
Praise God.
Amen.
That's what Romans 8 meant when he says that he works all things for his good.
This is one cohesive story, and if people would just read it front to back, they'd see that.
Yeah.
Even more so when it comes to all this nonsense.
People would just read it front to back and would be spirit-filled the way the whole Bible says.
We wouldn't have people thrashing on the floor like a bunch of morons.
And speaking of that, I got a video I want to play quick too.
Unless you wanted to say something quick, Brayden?
I just want to say, it's kind of interesting to get back to your story of your wife, Trey, when she was trying to get in that water and you kept pushing her, slapping her on the head.
I think if I'm not mistaken, don't, isn't there some culture, I don't know, I'm not trying to put anybody down, isn't there like something to unlock their third eye, they have to hit on the forehead?
They have tapped the forehead a bunch of times.
I believe there is something with that.
I don't know what it is.
Hindu?
I want to say it's in one of the yogas, and I think it's Kundalini.
Yeah, they smack it.
They're smacking it.
Yeah, that third eye has to be awakened.
Yeah, so that's what it is.
I was sitting there thinking, I was like, that has to be what they was doing.
Yeah.
And see, here's the thing.
How many of these people have even heard of Kundalini?
Yeah, not many.
Probably none of them.
That just tells you that there's a spirit behind this, and it's not the Holy Spirit.
Go read, look, people, and look, we'll do it a little later once we show some stuff, but I've got my book, I've got my Bible marked on, that way you can see it, I've got it marked in two different places, 2 Kings 18, which I'm gonna read towards the end if that's alright, but I've also got my finger in Acts chapter 2, because at some point we need to counteract this with what the real Holy Spirit looks like when it falls.
Hmm.
Yeah.
exactly because it does no good so you know we talk about ephesians 5 and have no have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness but rather reprove them you know that's exposing but then it's also correcting and so we got to make you know and look you guys do a great job of this i'm preaching to the choir so just you did Don't even pay me no mind.
I'm just commenting for everybody else.
We've got to, all of you guys out there, anytime, look, it's one, expose.
But make sure you correct, too, because it does no good if we're exposing and we're not giving people the rest of the story as the old saying.
Yeah, the rest of the story.
I forgot who that was from. - Walter Concrete.
Yeah, so anyway guys, I put out a poll in the chatroom and it says, special laughter and crying comes from what?
What spirit?
The Holy Spirit, the Community Spirit, or the spirit behind Brian's glasses?
Anyway, 25% said the Holy Spirit, 56% said the Condolini, and 18% said the Spare of Brian's Glasses.
Wow, that jumped up.
That was at 12% when the show started.
It really jumped up.
Thanks, Dan.
Thanks, Dan.
For the record, I'm commenting in the chat.
If you ask me, look I wear these a lot and I'm not, I had them on before I even got on the show tonight and my eyes just hurt me sometimes.
It's one of those days.
I've left them on.
I apologize if it's a distraction guys.
I really do just wear them because of the brightness and stuff and the light issues.
Long story, we don't want to get into it tonight, but yeah.
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But it's all straight up now.
So everything's looking good now.
So anyway, I want to go to this video here, too, which revealing truth here is, you know, on the same page as us here.
So this is called the Toronto Blessed Manus.
This is from the church in Toronto.
This big, big huge church that they were doing these blessings.
Now check this out.
Fasten your seatbelt.
We may have a bit of turbulence tonight.
Nothing you're about to see is found anywhere in the Bible yet.
These were manifestations that took place during the Toronto Revival are blame on the Holy Spirit.
Well, not every clip in the Toronto Blessings kind of manifestation that were blamed on the Holy Spirit did take place in Toronto.
Let's read in the subtitles here.
For the audio edition.
The Bible makes it clear that God has nothing to do with this kind of nonsense.
1 Corinthians 14, 13 For God is not the God of confusion, but of peace.
Father, we want all of what you have!
All of what you have!
What the hell?
Have you ever seen that?
He said, no, I haven't.
Have you ever seen it?
No, I haven't.
I mean, I'm pretty sure this is you, Lord, but what's going on here?
It was completely, totally life-transforming.
They think Toronto's something!
Wait till they come to Boston!
Father, we want all of what you have!
All of what you have!
So, Karen McPhillip, I have all that you have.
So that Kyra and McPhilippe...
Yes.
Shabba. Shabba. Shabba. Shabba.
Touched me last night.
When John touched me last night, it was like, it was like I had a transplant.
It was a transplant.
God gave me a new heart.
And I could love that man down there that I hated when I came here.
because God used it and now I want another dream!
I was just this quiet little Mennonite.
I feel bad.
So sad.
This is insanity.
Sorry, anybody want to hear I agree with this is the Holy Spirit?
I think he's having a heart attack All of what you have!
All of what you have!
Disturbance and damn them, I don't even know what to say Looks like another episode of America's Funniest Videos John and Carol had a...
What's that Brian?
Well, I didn't want to interrupt it.
I want to chime in here in a second.
You know, I'll show you Benny Hinn one more time guys.
This is Benny Hinn, one of the big televangelists, right?
Raw anointing anointing.
Just throws this old Aiden down on the floor.
He stuttered for 13 years.
Whoa!
So ridiculous, man.
Come here, come here, come here, come here.
He's gonna hurry, Colt.
Yeah, so you see this ridiculous so you see this ridiculous night, right?
I want to point something out here.
This is, um... This is these, uh... Karate people, right?
I take martial arts, guys, and this is not real martial arts.
This is stupidity.
But, hold on.
Chi, it flows throughout the body.
Without it you don't...
This clown, yeah.
...to certain points along the body.
But he can't take it there!
He's probably weak right here!
No taxes!
Pressure point nut.
We're gonna affect up on the head of the third eye.
Watch it.
Yeah, he says the third eye.
Snap, couple.
Back, back, back.
Down!
There we go.
All of these karate techniques are made possible by manipulating Chi.
He makes a cheat ball.
He'll get the radio frequency going between the hands.
And if you get up and feel, it's actually hotter inside that ball.
I've seen him already knock people over with it.
He throws the chi in such a way that when he catches it, it knocks him backwards.
This is weird stuff.
Well, you know, real quick, I just want to turn this off.
I want two cents on it.
Hold on one second.
It reminds me of MKUltra.
Yeah.
There's a lot of stuff.
You know what I mean?
It just happens.
Everybody gets involved in it and everybody starts doing the same thing if you're in so close proximity of each other, you know?
It's trippy stuff.
Yeah, this is just ridiculous.
And I'm making a point here, guys.
Like, uh... Basically, he does karate moves and not even touches the person.
The person goes flying.
I can get that way with... A karate move that could theoretically revolutionize combat as we know it.
Except that it can take years to learn.
Essentially, he claims to be able to knock anyone out without touching any part of their body by just throwing a giant chi whammy at them.
So like this invisible force right then when you see the videos these people like this bloke here when they They challenge you like MMA fighters and all that it's so hilarious, right?
So you got this old Chinese guy a Japanese guy or this clown here doing this like And the MMA guy comes over just like BANG knockout, you know, I mean, it's okay, but the thing is The questions there's a stuff working and I believe it does work on the students Because if they're all in line with this one energy like that, which is demonic, you know what I mean?
It's gotta work like Benningham waving his coat and everybody goes flying.
You know what I mean?
There's a spirit behind that and it's certainly not the Holy Spirit.
And what I'm pointing out today is like just basically this stuff here is, I mean, we'll go to the Hindus too.
One second here, let me just put that up one more time.
This is what Kundalini looks like right here.
And they call this pure bliss, they call this Nirvana.
This clown here... I don't have permission to use this video, so basically, uh... I'm gonna just go through this quick.
Let me shut off the audio.
So this is, uh, the trance that these people are in.
And this guy, the instructor here, he uses this kundalini here.
Look, he's touching right there.
I forgot what that chakra is called there.
It activates the sexual parts of your body.
And this guy is literally having an orgasm while he's doing this.
And these people are all in tune with the Kundalini.
You know what I mean?
This is just, like, satanic stuff.
You know what I mean?
They're all in tune with this.
And it's not a coincidence, like, it's the same exact manifestations.
I can't play too much of this because of the copyright, but the same exact stuff in the Kundalini and over here too.
Man, these people are weirdos.
And one more time with the... This is actually Hindu Kundalini right here.
See the dots on the head too?
Because that's for the third eye.
And these people are in the same exact... This is like, no different from what you see in the Ben Hinn church.
Look, same stuff.
Look at that.
This is another minister waving his hand and everybody goes flying.
So this is just like what we were just trying to point out because So many people are going to walk into these churches and yeah Then you got to run out or you know, just like get deceased by this stuff and this is the occult, yeah And I know these are evangelists will defend the Kundalini say no, it's the Holy Spirit But and if you think that it's the same thing guys are the Holy Spirit, but this is this is the occult right here He's doing the same thing right here The same thing, like uh, and the same thing with the martial arts too.
The same exact stuff.
Waving his hand and the people go flying.
You know what I mean?
This is like, same stuff man.
And uh, same manifestation.
So if anybody evangelist out there is like, oh it's uh, you know it's not the Holy, I mean it's the Holy Spirit and it's the people's different reaction to it.
No.
You know what I mean?
And if anybody says that, you're a false prophet yourself.
Because that's just them trying to defend Their own garbage, what they do every day.
And I'm not saying there's no such thing as spiritual healing.
I'm not saying that.
You know what I mean?
God can heal anybody, but this kind of stuff, this is beyond, beyond anything.
You know, which goes into the trance and Reiki and all that.
Reiki is part of this too.
It's all part of the same seed, basically, of this energy healing, you know what I mean?
Which we, you know what I mean?
That's deep into the occult, but this is all the same spirit.
All of it, you know what I mean?
So, and for people to say, oh, this is not the Kundalini and the charges.
Yeah, you got another thing coming, you know what I mean?
And I know there's all these big channels out there now they're they go to all these evangelist churches and they do this stuff But they'll say oh, this is not the community spirit.
But I mean this is you know, I mean and I can't emphasize that enough I got one for you.
I got one for you, Dan.
Sure This goes along with it.
I've mentioned this before on the on spiritual warfare I'm kind of stepping back from the mic.
I'm hearing a little bit of feedback, but that's okay.
I No joke, Dan.
I've talked about this before, but it's so fitting for this broadcast tonight.
Yep.
So, yes, I have these glasses.
I just didn't buy these off the shelf.
I actually got them from a doctor.
Okay, so I'm not going to talk about where and when and who and what, but my point is, when I used to go to this facility, no joke, I'm not going to say where it is or whatever, but It's because all this mess with my visual stuff and all this stuff that went on with me.
But there was one day, I did not realize what was being done.
It's this test, this complex test.
They hooked up these bracelets on my wrist.
Well, until I started looking at the computer screen and kind of visually taking it all in, because they were saying it was going to read like my visual standpoint, like, and I said, okay, and I just went along with it.
This is like two years, well, it's been a while back, but anyways, no joke, the system, the computer software system was literally monitoring And I looked and I said, Hey, hang on a minute.
And the, the test had almost been completed.
It was like 97% done.
We was almost done.
Kid you not, I looked up and I seen it and it had the chakras, the symbol incorporated into the, into the, into the software.
I said, what are you doing?
What is the system doing?
And, uh, no joke.
I'm trying to, I'm trying to watch what I say, but no joke.
The woman told me that this was okay.
And I was like, no, it's not okay.
And it was measuring literally If you want to get into layman's terms here, it was literally measuring, and it was like a file was printed off of all the spirituality, all the different power, I'm not kidding you, all the chakras, Dan, Trey, I'm not kidding.
Just based off my wrist.
I'm not kidding you guys.
And I was like, why are y'all doing this?
And it was supposedly to measure my, something to do with brain patterns and visual stuff, and I said, this has nothing to do With, why are we, why is this chakra, why is this stuff even on the program?
And they was, like when I called it out, they didn't even really know what I was talking about.
And they work with the soft, they work with it, but they didn't even realize that it meant chakra in the kundalini narrative.
They didn't understand it.
Yes.
And I was like, and literally I have the documents, they printed off, and it literally measures all the levels, all the spinal, the points of the chakra.
Wow.
And guys, you can't, you just can't make this stuff up.
And I'm like, I was like, please don't ever put, and I literally was really calm about it.
I was like, please don't ever plug me into that again.
I said, that doesn't even make sense.
I was like, how does this have to do with anything to do with, uh, my injury?
Like, you know, I was totally completely, I completely felt I was, I was baffled.
Right.
I said, don't ever hook me up to that again.
And I was being very, very calm and very kind.
But I said, don't ever do it again.
And I'm not joking.
The shocker is the whole shebang.
I said, click on it.
Don't you see all the little icons up there?
And it showed.
And I was like, don't, just please.
I know what this is and this is something I don't.
I said, I love the Lord.
I ain't got time for this.
Don't ever hook me up to that again.
It freaked me out.
For me, yeah.
This is a chart here with a little idea what the chakra is, what they think is.
You know what I mean?
So each one represents something.
Survival, sexuality, power.
As you remember, you've seen that Chinese guy, whatever he is, the Oriental guy touching the girl right in the stomach area right there.
The sexuality part.
You're literally giving an orgasm.
Sorry for the language guys.
Power, love, communication, intuition, and spirituality.
So basically when you align all these chakras, right, the Kundalini comes into the third eye and it wraps around your spine and gives you off this nirvana of energy.
Again, this is what they believe.
I'm not saying this is real.
Yeah, it is real to an extent, but it's a demonic spirit.
Unclean Spirits!
I'm going to show you this too here.
The Bible says in 2 Corinthians 11 3, I am afraid of that.
This is Paul right?
He's afraid that the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness.
Your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ.
So this is Paul when he talks about this stuff.
If the serpent deceived Adam and Eve, it's going to deceive you from simplicity and purity to devotion to Jesus.
This is very dangerous stuff, man.
And 1 Timothy 4, 1 and 2 says, Now the Spirit expressly says that in a lot of times, some will depart from the faith giving heed to deceiving spirits.
Deceiving spirits, that's the Kundalini, guys.
And the doctrine of demons.
And speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience shared with the hot iron.
And 2 Timothy 4, 3 and 4 says, For the time will come when they will not endorse sound doctrine.
So basically these people, these evangelists, they're not going to hear a word we say, guys.
Because we're not Benny Hinn, we're not the 700 Club.
But a time will come when they will, which is now, they're not endorse sound doctrine, but after their own lust they shall heap themselves.
Teachers having itching ears, and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and they shall be turned into fable.
So if that is not speaking of what these clowns are doing behind the pulpits, guys, you know, I don't know what else to tell you.
You know, I mean, I got some other verses too, but Try no trades don't want to say a couple words here.
I Do what?
What?
Yeah, go ahead, Dre.
I'm sorry.
You look like you wanted to jump in quick or whatever.
I was just clearing my throat, but no.
No, my throat's up.
I don't know what's going on with it.
But I just, I see these things, and, you know, I'm sure you guys feel the same way, but, you know, I see these things, and it just, it grieves my spirit.
Because when you talk about the simplicity that is Christ, I mean, it really is just that simple.
Yeah, absolutely.
Just, just believe in what He did, read what He said, and obey it.
Yeah.
I agree.
But, you know, I remember I got all these books like, you know, with, you know, things like with what, like Albert Pike and Madame Blavatsky and all these weirdos say.
And I remember I would just read them and I'd be like, what's wrong with these people?
And my wife was like, they're bored.
They got bored.
They went down this stuff and, and, and through their boredom, they got corrupted.
They were bored with their regular old lives and their regular old religion, and instead of turning to the actual truth, they went down all these perverted, you know, rabbit holes.
And I'm like, you know what?
I think there's something to that.
I think these people want so bad to feel the presence of God that they would rather just turn over their emotions blind to this stuff instead of just get in this word.
Because I don't know about you two, but when I get, when I feel the Holy Spirit come on me, it emboldens me to speak the truth, not flop around on the ground like a fish and bark like a dog.
Like, this ain't SpongeBob SquarePants.
Yeah.
This is the worship of the Most High God.
Like, like, it just, you know, it reminds me of what Jesus said in John chapter 4.
There's coming a time, you know, where he said where... I'm gonna mess it up, so I'll just quote the last part.
But you know, he's talking to the woman at the well.
And she's talking about, you know, we worship on this mountain, but the Jews worship here.
He said there's coming a time When they won't either worship in Jerusalem nor here because God is spirit and his followers must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Now you can be spirit filled all you want.
That's fine.
You need to make sure you're filled with the right spirit.
And it's so, it's so perfect because later in the gospel of John, Jesus called this comforter.
He called him the spirit of truth.
If you're gonna be filled with the spirit, be filled with the spirit of truth that's going to make you worship in spirit and in truth.
Exactly man Exactly man, and it's just insane and I got some more verses here because this just goes right along with this and uh, you know digging for these verses just like you just felt led by the Holy Spirit to preach these verses here and Galatians 1 6 through 9 says I marvel that ye are soon to be removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ and to another gospel which is not
Another but there were some that be troubled you and would pervert the gospel of Christ is exactly what they're doing today But though we are an angel from heaven Preach any other gospel unto you that as witches have preached and Tim let him be a curse So if they're saying, you know, if you see a spirit preaching another gospel, it looks like an angel Let him be a curse, you know rebuke him Yeah, I mean revelations 22 19 says if any man shall take away from the words of this book the Bible Yeah, that's Genesis to Revelation
Of this prophecy God shall take away his part of the book life and out of the Holy City and from the things in which written in this book now First Peter 5 8 says be sober be vigilant Because your adversary the devil is a roaring lion walking about Seeking who may devour and it's written your churches if you don't think the church has been hijacked guys You know you have no idea.
You know I mean and Satan has infiltrated the churches You know what I mean?
And 1 Corinthians 14.33 says, For God is not the author of confusion.
So, He's not going to give you a bunch of confusion stuff, like, what the heck are these people doing?
But He's the author of peace.
And as in all churches of the saints.
You know what I mean?
And 1 Corinthians 6.19.20 says, Do you not know the bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit who is in you?
And whom you have received from God, you are not your own.
You are brought with a price.
Therefore, honor God with your bodies.
And that doesn't mean shaking, quivering, and running around like animals.
You know what I mean?
That's not how this works.
You know what I mean?
And 2 Corinthians 3.17 says, Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit is, I'm sorry, where the Spirit is, the Lord is.
There is freedom.
So freedom is not running around barking like dogs and jump falling to the floor and act like you have a semi-hooked up 3,000 volt battery to your nipples or something.
You know what I mean?
And this right here, this says it right here.
And people, before I read this verse, I'm going to say this right now, right?
Maybe out of ignorance that you didn't know, God might forgive you for this, but there's this one verse, actually there's two things in the Bible that you cannot be forgiven for.
And one is the mock, yeah, mock of the beast.
But this one here, you really need to understand this, right?
If you're not sure, you need to really, because you're messing with fire.
I don't care how much you've been a believer and all that, the Bible says right there, don't take my word, this is what Jesus says.
Matthew 12, 31, 32 says, Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin blasphemy is forgiven unto men.
But the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost basically says, you could literally curse the Father, you'll be forgiven.
You could literally curse the son, you could be forgiven.
The blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven unto men.
And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven to him.
But whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven to him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.
So that's dangerous stuff, guys.
So if you're in the in the slightest way remotely saying all right, yeah And you're thinking this is holy spirit and all that and you're actually claiming it to be now on the other side, too.
We got, um, ministry, like these, uh, um, these people in the cabal and all that, they think the Holy Spirit's a feminine spirit and everything else, and they call it, uh, Sophie and all these other different names, that's blasphemy the Holy Spirit, you know what I mean?
And when you're lying about the Holy Spirit, when you're mistalking about it, any which way, that's blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
You're playing with hellfire.
And if you're purposely doing this, man, yeah, you're going right to the lake of fire after judgment.
That's not what I say, that's what the Bible says.
So I'm not judging you, that's what the Bible says.
You're playing with hellfire right now.
So if you're into these churches, guys, and you think this is Holy Spirit, Oh, I felt it, it was righteous or whatever.
No, you felt nothing.
Because your emotions deceive you, guys.
That's what happens, you work on people's emotions.
These big ministries, they target people's emotions.
I agree 100%.
And that's what they do.
They do music.
They pump it into you and all that to make you feel jubilant.
Give all your paycheck away and everything else.
And they target your emotions and then they use that against you.
You know what I mean?
So this is not the Holy Spirit reaching out to you guys.
The Holy Spirit's not going to make you run around jumping like dogs and doing all this crazy stuff.
When you feel the real Holy Spirit, you feel it.
You know what I mean?
It does nothing like this.
You know what I mean?
What do you think, Trey?
I agree 100%.
And as a matter of fact, I'm going right over here.
Let me see.
I want to read this real quick.
Sure.
This is John chapter 14, starting in verse 8.
Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
And Jesus said unto him, have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip?
He that hath seen me hath seen the Father, and how sayest thou then?
Show us the Father.
Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?
The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself.
But the Father that dwelleth in me, he doth the works.
Believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in me, or else believe me for the very work's sake.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me, the works that I shall do, he do also.
And greater works than these shall he do, because I go unto my Father.
Well, we know what Jesus did.
He healed the sick.
He raised the dead.
He caused the blind to see.
We know these things.
And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
That's the point of all this, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
If ye shall ask anything in my name, I will do it.
If you love me, keep my commandments.
And I will pray the father and he shall give you another comforter that he may abide with you forever.
Even the spirit of truth whom the world cannot receive because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him, but ye know him for he dwell with you and shall be in you.
I will not leave you comfortless.
I will come to you.
You know, he goes on later.
I think it's in John chapter 16.
But he says, um, how be it when he the spirit of truth comes, is come, he will guide you into all truth, for he shall not speak of himself, but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak, and he will shew you things to come.
When we talk about being in the spirit of truth, the spirit of truth discomforter, he is going to lead us back to Jesus Christ, to his words, to his doctrine, to his example, to his deeds.
Everything is all about Jesus.
And if you miss that, you've missed the boat.
Amen.
Amen, Troy.
Yeah man, people just need to wake up because this is uh... I can't say it enough how serious this is and um... that people being misled by this stuff.
And it is a counterfeit spirit.
The thing is people need to realize, everything you need to call everything of Satan is mere images of what God made.
It's like, you know, the rainbow, right?
And you know the group that uses the rainbow for the flag?
That's a smack in the face of the Creator.
He made the flag... I'm sorry, he made the rainbow the sign of his covenant and the reason why he destroyed the world in the first place.
And we're not going to get into that because of YouTube.
But um, you mean everything in the occult is mere image.
So the Holy Spirit, yeah, it helps people.
I mean it heals people and everything else too.
But Satan's gonna have his counterfeit too.
And why do you think it's called a serpent spirit?
It's not, I mean, this is not a coincidence.
You know what I mean?
A serpent spirit comes from the god of Eden.
Literally a serpent.
You know what I mean?
And I'm not saying snakes are evil.
It's a spiritual thing.
These spiritual serpents, that's exactly what it is.
It's evil.
You know what I mean?
And you've got all these people out there in these new age cults.
Because this extends not only into the churches, guys.
Hindu Buddhism, a little bit of Buddhism.
All these Eastern philosophies.
You know what I mean?
And the cult and everything else.
And yoga practice.
And now, you know, if you're out there, I don't condone yoga at all, but if you're out there intensely stretching, I wouldn't go any further than that.
You know what I mean?
Like, when it gets to this, because a lot of yoga people, you can watch videos, former yogis, right, that come out of it, because when they start going further into the spiritual aspect of yoga and all that, they start learning, well, wow, you know, the kundalini is nothing to mess with, you know what I mean?
And they find out the hard way.
And, yeah, there's no problem there because it really attacks you.
You know what I mean?
It makes your life miserable, sick, and, you know, all kinds of stuff.
I mean, there's so many problems in general.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, it's insane, man.
Like he was talking about the Garden of Eden and everything.
The spiritual, the snakes in religion and culture has been around, what, you know, Nordic mythology, Mesopotamian.
I mean, we could go on and on.
Midgard, Serpent.
I mean, there's all kinds of different, you know, folklore, immortality, the old male and female death, deity and demon, They correspond at all with this whole, it's just insane.
And then you go into Deuteronomy, I think it's Deuteronomy 18, it talks about, obviously the Bible condemns this type of thing.
We've talked about it before on Spiritual Warfare, no deviation in observer times.
As of Deuteronomy 18, we're not supposed to be, was it chapter 18, I think, if I'm reading it correctly.
Forgive me, um, no deviation, no, you know, getting into the Zodiac and stuff like this, you know, all those different things and these, uh, there's all kinds, I don't want to put any different, I don't want to put down any cultures or anything with this, that's not what our, you know, our point is, but, uh, You know, like the serpent, they have serpent demigods, the Nagas.
I mean, it's insane.
And all the architect work is everywhere, all over the cultures, all over the earth.
Thailand, there's all kinds.
Bangkok, there's all kinds of places.
You know, monks talk about it, all these different things.
We're literally worshiping fallen, you know, fallen entity narrative.
You know, snake worship, you know.
It's just crazy.
It's crazy.
You know, I could talk about it all day.
I mean, it's literally like, uh, you know, you got the, uh, I think you might've mentioned a minute ago.
What is that one?
Uh, Jesus talks about it and there's nothing new to that.
Let's see.
I got it right here on note.
John 10 one, verily, verily, I say unto you, he that entered not by the door into the sheep hood or sheep fold, but climbeth up some other way, the same as a thief and a robber.
So if you get into all that, you look into Ecclesiastes and stuff like that, nothing new in the sun.
But I wanted to mention, you know, this new alternative spirituality, whatever it is in this realm that they're trying to, you know, promote.
It's just, like I said at the beginning of the broadcast, it's a new package, but they're opening up doors.
with spiritual applications to put people in bondage to these Kundalini attacks.
I mean, it's insane.
And, you know, just to kind of touch base on those videos earlier that we talked, that you showed in the broadcast, that, that alone, I've been in some churches, not so bad.
I don't want to put anybody down that not into that point, but there's like small little elements to that type of, uh, a type of thinking, you know, like, uh, I want to watch what I say because I don't want to mock somebody, especially if you have family like I do that has certain churches that they go to.
I don't want to call it any kind of Presbyterian holiness or whatever, but I don't want to call it any organization.
I'm just saying in general, I have seen it with my own eyes where it gets really weird and it's kind of trippy and you're like, your fear, you feel fear.
It's not the Holy Spirit.
You're feeling like literally in a fear state.
When these people are acting like falling over, jumping and doing backflips off of the pews and they can't, you know, I'm not trying to be mean, it's going to sound really bad, but they're having trouble walking when they walk in.
But then they, the music starts playing, they get in this trance, start doing all these different traditions.
I'm not trying to be mean.
And they get into that, what you talked, what you showed earlier in the broadcast.
They start doing these things.
You're not being mean.
Because our job is to expose evil.
We're not attacking people individually.
It's heartbreaking to see it.
And they think that's the Holy Spirit.
It's very scary.
I don't know.
I've seen some very interesting things in my walk.
But then you get into Indian culture.
I mentioned it on this broadcast.
Talking about the serpent.
You know, uh, bending back and forth with the, uh, with the Indian.
We was talking about those Indian tablets that I've talked about in our, you know, Indian mounds and stuff like that.
But, uh, it all goes.
It's all in all, it's inundated in all cultures.
And see, this is where we're going to be talking, you know, we're going to get into immortality.
They want to get into AI applications.
If we're, if, You know, if man is teaching AI, or if it might be vice versa, or however that all plays in, you know, angelic, you know, I always say it's angelic AI, you know, like, whatever the narrative, however that plays out, the AI, is it too much to ask if 100 years passes, and they, you know, push this narrative on the human population with the metaverse and everything,
Is it too much to ask in a hundred years they won't know what the Kundalini is, period, or shape or form, and they'll be unknowingly participating in it and thinking it's of good?
Like in all aspects.
And then there won't be, and like you said earlier, they'll just think it's of Jesus, or of Christ, or whatever, and they'll say it's the Holy Spirit.
But we, like the title of the show, it's a counterfeit.
It's a counterfeit Holy Ghost.
Yeah.
And it's very scary, that's the line that we're walking And it seems like it's a fine line and we're walking in that destruction state where literally AI can start teaching this stuff and saying, look, I can do healing.
You can, you can unlock your third eye.
You know, you can, you know, like Trey's wife is, you know, there's a man physically doing it.
Just think about a paddle or something.
You going down to a production line, you walk in the, you know, the meditation, let's go to the meditation house, you know, and whatever.
And somebody just, there's some robot slapping you in the face five times before you go into a shock.
You know what I'm saying?
So, Yeah, I'm being a little sarcastic there, but I have, you know, that, the Roblox and everything.
They'll probably end up doing it.
Real quick, guys, this is off the subject.
Well, it's on the subject.
Anyways, welcome.
I'm a little off my game tonight.
But anyways, have y'all seen the monk?
I think it's in Tibet.
Have you seen that, Trey, Dan?
There's a monk that's AI.
It's actually a robot, and they literally go to it and pray to it, and it's supposed to be in the embodied spirit of this ancient monk.
Well, they're teaching serpentine stuff.
I've listened to a lot of stuff about it.
It sits there and does all these chanting and humming, and they'll meditate around it and bow before the actual monk and say it's the ancient monk spirit that's been embodied into this vessel.
So, you know, that's literally just, that's fairly new within the last year or two.
So, you know, where are we headed with all that?
You know, when we give ourselves over to these things, these spiritual applications, you literally, because our Father has created us for one thing, to be a servant, to literally worship Him, to like be joyful and fruitful and multiply, but one thing is to worship Him.
And, you know, And just enjoy life.
This whole thing is just trying to extract everything and trying to rip everybody apart spiritually, your faith, the family, the whole shebang.
And then they get you, they strip you from the biblical narrative, they strip you from all knowledge, and they want you to abide in their new law of thinking, I guess if you want to say it.
These new climate, you-know-what things that they're inundating, the Ten Commandments, etc.
And that's what's so dangerous if we do not, if we do not, you know, people are saying meditate and get into this, you know, this trance and this ascension and all these different things.
If we don't hold to the words of God and hold to what He has put it in front of us for instruction manual, you know, where are we going to stand whenever this stuff, you know, just starts really showing its ugly head, right, guys?
What are we going to do?
Yeah.
And that's why we're exposing this tonight and talking about it tonight.
So, Trey, you still there?
Are you still there?
Oh.
He got us sitting with me talking.
you - Well I want to point this out here if you guys look on the screen in a second here.
So basically this is, and again this is not a coincidence right?
This is in India right?
This is a huge snake temple they have right?
I'm here I had to go get some coffee real quick.
Oh ok cool.
This is a huge snake temple they have in India right?
Now check this out right?
This is in Thailand right?
another snake temple.
Right?
Look at that, right?
Then you go over here, snake temple on the Panag Island, right?
And then you go to the Vatican.
There's that, I think, I forgot what the building is called here.
In the Vatican, that's literally the head of a snake.
That's the old ancient order of the snake, serpent there.
You know what I mean?
And it doesn't really stop there.
You know, you got these snake handles, right?
These Hindus, you know, using this meditation to tame a snake.
Now, it doesn't stop there.
It goes into the Christian churches, down in the southern churches there.
Snake handles.
They go, by my faith, I'm not going to get bit by, ah, a poison snake, and I don't know how many times, there's been made newspapers, you know what I mean, that these pastors got bit by the snakes, that they're handling, and they died from it, you know what I mean, and they're putting people's lives in danger, you know what I mean, they're doing this, just passing the deadly cobra, poisoning a snake around the crowd,
and they think, oh, the Lord of God, it's not going to hurt us, and and they think, oh, the Lord of God, it's not going to hurt us, and handling serpents, right, then you get the order of the serpent, you know, which is ancient order, but I mean, like, that's a whole show on its own, but I mean, look, it's the same thing, and the same exact serpent stuff, in the cult, and the so-called, you know, modern day Christian religions, so if In the cult And the so called You know Modern day Christian religions So if any evangelist Out there right now Still thinks That's the Holy Spirit Operating in that Yeah you really need To go back To read the scriptures You know what I mean
And I'm like pointing out these big time evangelists out there.
They got big YouTube channels.
700,000 people following them and everything else to say, oh, I cast out demons.
Oh, you cast out demons, yeah.
But you don't cast out the very demon that's in your own church, and that's the Kundalini.
So when you're running around thinking, oh, I cast out demons and all that, but you got a major demon within your church called the Kundalini that you foolishly think is the Holy Spirit, you know what I mean?
And shame on you people out there for actually telling people, no, no, no, this is just people's different reactions from it.
You know what I mean?
No.
This is a spiritual matter that needs to be addressed and pointed out.
You know what I mean?
We're one of the handful of ministries that are actually exposed for what it is.
You know what I mean?
It's the same serpent, Kundalini spirit.
You know what I mean?
The same serpent spirit that deceives the Hindus.
The same serpent spirit that deceives the Evangelists.
The same serpent spirit that deceives all these nations and all that.
Why are you taking it back to the God of Eden?
The serpent was subtle.
Very smart!
You know what I mean?
Wiser serpent, harmless as a dove.
You know what I mean?
Like the serpent is wise.
You know what I mean?
You can't out think Satan.
You know what I mean?
Satan's in every aspect, every crawl space, every little crack in the church.
Satan's there.
You know what I mean?
And that's why we need to know spiritual warfare to be able to combat these things and to understand them so we ourselves don't be deceived by these things.
You know what I mean?
And if you're in these churches and something's like really nagging at you, you know what I mean?
That's the real Holy Spirit telling you, get out of there or rebuke the stuff, you know what I mean?
What's that point?
Well, I was just going to say that there, I don't forget the gentleman's name, God bless him, but there was a gentleman that not too far from my area passed away because he was Tempting snakes in his snake handling ritual in his church, right?
And he got bit and died.
Like, literally.
Like what you just said.
Like, literally dancing with it, and it finally just bit him.
You know, and it's... I know who you're talking about.
Okay, cool.
That was really sad.
That was really sad.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just a... Like, it's different.
When God gives you common sense, I'm not trying to put anybody down.
When you're going to jump in front of a train and you expect a positive outlook and you say you're going to just bounce off of it, you know, you're going to get drove underneath it or it's going to plow you into oblivion.
I mean, there's, there's, you know, God gives us sense.
And like Dan was saying at the beginning of this broadcast, God's not the author of confusion.
You know, the Holy Spirit's not going to say, well, get a black, get a black panther or a mountain lion and bring it into your, you know, you know, your place of worship and expect it to sit there and stay calm.
And thank you Armando for the donation.
Yeah, there was somebody else too with a donation earlier.
God bless you and thank you Armando.
But I mean, you expect, you expect, uh, you expect a lion or a, You expect these creatures to stay tamed in your so-called church, but these are wild animals.
You know, God has a purpose for them, but you're not supposed to sit there and just bring these things to the congregation and expect just to ride off like He-Man or something.
You know, and then somebody gets hurt.
It's just, it's crazy, Trey.
So, you know, I'm talking, I don't want to mention it.
What is, I think I remember his name now, but just God bless his family.
Cause I know that that was a lot of suffering.
Yeah.
So I'm going to bring this analogy up just because I heard somebody talking to, I saw somebody talking about bees in the chat.
So when I go to a bee, when I go to a beehive extraction, cause I work in pest control.
And so if I go to a bumblebee hive and I went to a big one once, I mean, the nest we pulled out was the size of a pallet.
Um, um, but I went, I went in a bee suit because when I go near bees and I get near their hive, I'm expecting them to get stunk.
And I don't know if y'all know anything about a bumblebee, but they're huge.
They will sting you.
They will sting you through a beekeeper suit.
Absolutely.
And it hurts.
Bad.
But I still try to do what I can to prep.
Because, I mean, it's common sense, like you said.
Now, I'll tell you this.
I'm getting a little bit of feedback.
But I can, you know, when you look at handling snakes and things like that, Paul got bit by, he got bit by a snake on the way, you know, when he was, you know, he, I can't even remember where he was going, but he got bit by a snake.
And they were able to keep their journey because he was miraculously healed, right?
That's the way it's supposed to work.
I was just talking earlier, um, uh, you know, six years I've worked in crawl spaces.
Um, you know, the, the company that I used to work for, we used to do insulation as one of our services.
So we'd put up insulation and crawl spaces and I had a handful of insulation pins and I sat it on a live wire.
Didn't know I did.
All I knew was my arm started hurting.
Now, for whatever reason, still do not know why to this day, but the electrician got called out.
And he told the lady that owned the house, he was like, I have no idea how that boy is still alive.
He should not be alive, given the amount of power that was coming from that wire.
But.
And that's a that's a silly example, because I mean, it's by the grace of God that I'm here today, but that's what that's about.
It's not about drinking this Strength 9 and... People just... People love to... They love to love the Lord with all their heart, with all their soul, with all their strength.
But for whatever reason, people don't want to love Him with all their mind.
Absolutely.
Matter of fact, they don't want to love Him with any of their mind.
Absolutely.
And you have to.
You was unknowingly touching that, and God shielded you.
It's a little different when you're like, yeah, turn up the electric fence, buddy, to the highest power, you know?
I'm gonna tempt, you know what I'm saying?
I wanna see how much voltage I can take today.
You know what I'm saying?
He's literally watching over you.
And that was what I was, yeah, you hit the nail on the head.
You know, I don't know where they get, I don't understand where they get this to provoke and to tempt.
Their life for like, it's almost like, um, what's these, uh, like, uh, stunt doubles and stuff like that.
They go through some really intensive training and they have to do a lot of different things and they put their life on the line to go, you know, to put the suits on, to catch themselves on fire and all these different things, you know, in car stunts and all this stuff.
And they know, they know, they know there could be a chance that you not make it out of that.
you know and um it just blows a mind when they're doing like these death defying stunts and all these different things and it blows a mind and but then your example literally you're sitting there trying to do stuff crawl space and you got a live wire and you should be under the ground you know and it's all by god's grace that you are he you know you was completely held strong you just got a little you got a little electrocuted you know you're a little I was sore for about a day after.
I can completely contrast that.
I'm going to share this next one just so I can make people laugh at my expense.
I got lit up today too because I decided to take the new collar off my dog for her underground fence and my stupid self walked through the barrier with it in my hand and then got lit up.
Did it feel good?
Oh, uh, actually, funny story.
My arm was very sore and I was, like, didn't have full rotation.
It's been fine ever since I got shocked.
Don't, okay, for a disclaimer, do not do what Trey just did.
Do not do that!
If you've got a rotocuff issue, don't talk, don't, just don't do what Trey just did, okay?
It's not, it's not worth it, I promise.
Yeah, well, it's interesting, I know we're getting a little bit off topic, but I have been electrocuted several times with touching electrical fences and stuff and live wires, so I know exactly how you felt.
Well that's the same way man, like uh, when you get that Kundalini thrown into ya, that's why people like, really like that because it's like ya, it's like a charge right through your body and that's why they can jump off these wheelchairs or whatever the case and uh, because they have no choice to jump off that wheelchair because that Kundalini is like a bolt of lightning just shocking ya and sending ya, ya butt right off that chair, you know what I mean?
So like, that's why these people going flying because it's a, it's a charge, it's a spiritual charge, you know what I mean?
Go ahead Dan, I'm sorry.
Here's another thing too, the people out there, you know what I mean?
If you still question that, whatever the case, because the Bible says in 1 John 4, he says, Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits, try them, whether they are of God, because many false prophets are going into the world.
So if you're questioning, even if you go to Benny Hinn's church or something, right?
Call it out.
You know what I mean?
And you see for yourself when this pastor is like, whatever the case, or whoever, you call him out and you confront him with Jesus.
And that spirit will flee.
And watch how fast he loses his so-called powers.
You know what I mean?
And it's ridiculous.
And it's called discernment.
Discernment, discernment, discernment.
And unfortunately, most Christian states don't have discernment.
That discernment is, oh, because of what my pastor says.
Oh, you know, if the pastor says it's okay, it's okay.
Instead of reading the scripture for yourself, you lack discernment.
And then Hosea 4 says, my people, my people, are destroyed by the lack of knowledge.
He's not talking about the Gentiles.
He's not talking about the Pharisees or anybody else.
He's saying, my people are destroyed by the lack of knowledge.
Why?
Because they chose you to reject the truth.
We're trying to bring you the truth.
It's not from us.
It's from the Holy Spirit.
It's from the Gospel, right?
People still to this day, they'll listen to this and they're still going to go out to these churches.
Oh, I don't care what they say.
I feel the Holy Spirit and I know it's the Holy Spirit.
Alright, so you go around barking like dogs, act like morons.
So yeah, yeah, try telling that to the Father, okay, when you go meet the Father one day, right?
But my people, God says, my people.
He's talking about us, okay?
The work, the truth, you know what I mean?
The knowledge, you know what I mean?
And if you knew the knowledge, the knowledge comes from the scriptures, you know?
Not from your pastor.
It comes from here, okay?
Read it for yourself, even when I do my Bible study videos, right?
I tell you, right after we get done with it, read it for yourself.
Don't take my word for it, you know what I mean?
People in the pulpit, they should be telling you that.
You know, because instead of saying, oh, you know, the way they act like is like, don't challenge me.
They won't say that directly, but they'll be like, this is the way it is and that's it.
No.
You know, challenge every spirit, the Bible says.
Challenge me, Brian, Trey, challenge everybody.
This is what the Bible says, guys.
You know, you go back to the scripture that says.
Not what we don't understand.
Not what this one says or whatever the case.
We need to go by what the Spirit says.
Because if God tells him in Hosea, my people, right?
He's telling you straight up, you lack the knowledge.
Because you chose to reject the truth.
The millions of Christians out there today, they're gonna go to these wacky churches on Sunday, right?
And they chose to reject the truth.
Even when some will hear this and pass us off because they're choosing to reject the truth.
Yeah.
Amen to that.
Yeah.
Let's just, um...
I just, when I do these shows, I like, every time we do a Spiritual Warfare Friday, I think about my biological family.
You know, like outside the walls of my actual family I live with, but cousins, aunts, whatever.
You know, whatever.
Great cousin, whatever.
You know, great aunts and all this stuff.
And they get tossed to and fro so easily.
Like, somebody will say something and they believe it.
Or it doesn't take nothing.
I mean, it takes no critical thinking thought or anything.
They just jump on the bandwagon.
Yeah.
There's no, there's no like, okay, how am I going to get there?
They're already there.
You know, like they, as soon as it takes 30 seconds to convince them and they'll just go on whatever trail you want them to go on.
And that's scary.
That's absolutely scary.
And I know, you know, like I mentioned a lot, the fallen angels have got the anatomy of the human genome.
They got all that.
path they got it narrowed down to probably whatever they got a lot of data on us right because they've been doing a lot of weird stuff or ever you can go to genesis 6 and talk about it you know we um they know how to pull on those heartstrings so to speak and um you know mess with our cognitive mindset get us on you know to tell us go this way we got you know bible tells don't entertain familiar spirits you know all these different things they thank you all my these spirits have been around yeah thank you
armado these spirits have been around for generations they stay with the families they know your grandparents your aunts your uncles whoever and they've got you down perfectly and they know what your likes dislikes they got you down and And when you get, and you bring yourself into these type of places, and you give yourself over, you walk in, you don't, you think you're going there for good.
But you come in there, you're literally opening the door to all kinds of spiritual, you can be inundated with tons of spiritual, like Jason was saying earlier, talking about the stuff at church and stuff.
It can really take a toll on ya.
And when you yoke yourself with a certain group of people that's not yoked in Christ, you got your problem.
I'm sorry, like you have a lot of discord, and it can cause a lot of issues down the road.
And it's just baffling.
It's baffling.
But then you say, I'm sorry Dan, then you say, well here's the scriptures, but I can't listen to you Dan, I can't listen to you Brian, I can't listen to you Trey.
That's not, you don't have a tux on.
You don't have, you've got tattoos.
Your eyes don't work.
Dan, you don't have, Dan you're a wrestler.
You know, they're always excuses.
You know what I mean?
Dan, you're from Rhode Island, I can't listen to you.
Ryan, you're from Kentucky, I can't listen to you.
But the Bible speaks for itself.
No, I can't.
I need to listen to somebody that has got all of his A through Z, you know, his degrees or whatever, his patent of authenticity, and is a $400 student on.
Then I can listen.
That blows my mind.
That baffles my mind.
And that's why this Kundalini spirit can just sneak right in.
Like it did, like the old subtle serpent did in the garden.
He snuck right in.
Infiltrated Adam and Eve.
And then he's doing it to this day.
The devil is literally infiltrating and causing a lot of discord and destruction.
And I think it's ancestral curses, you know, like your family curses and all these different things that go into play.
And it just seems like when you don't know that, when you don't realize, when you realize something, when you realize it, you can't go, when you realize that there's truth in something, you can't pedal back and say, well, you can't go back.
Like God won't let you, the Holy Spirit won't let you.
Once you know there's a car is a car, you can't explain it any different.
You can't try to make something up, make it magic make-believe and call it a bird.
It's the same thing with the Bible.
Once the Bible has been written forever, it comes from the Almighty Father.
Once you read it and understand it, you can't add and take from it.
So you can't spin it and say, well, I've got to go back and see if I can recalibrate the Bible for my own personal fleshly mindset and make myself feel good.
God's Word is true.
God's Word never changes.
I don't know.
And it just, I don't know.
That's just, I don't know.
It just boggles my mind, man.
Yeah.
And I think it's true that people out there are looking for enlightenment, wisdom, and all that.
And that's one of them.
The Bible also says, too, in James 3.17, but the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceful, gentle, I mean, open for reason, and full of mercy, and good fruits impartial and sincere.
So that's what the Bible says.
And there's many other things.
But the sermon is the key.
Now here's a question, too.
One old man, y'all.
Bless you.
Thank you for the donation.
And so, um, the thing is now we addressed what the problem is.
And we addressed what it is, how it is, how it works in the churches.
Now, the big question is, how do we combat this?
If we ever come across somebody like this, because you never know, you could end up in some church at some wedding, or whatever the case, and this stuff is going on.
How would you combat this?
And especially if they come up to you and want to put the place.
And David Carrico, he did a whole show on us on the Midnight Riot, like it was, about not letting people place hands on you.
For a reason.
This is the big reason why.
As you've seen in some of the videos there, right?
And most of the time, they tap the forehead.
Why are they doing that?
Same thing in your cult.
They tap it, whatever.
Because this is, um, that chakra they call it, the third eye of the penile gland.
And, um, the crown is up here, whatever the case.
So, they tap them.
And notice how in the Catholic Church, too, when the priest gives you the wafer there, you know what I mean?
And, uh, for communion, right?
They do this to the forehead.
They put a Roman, uh, you know, plus size cross on you.
They cross a bell on your forehead with the ashes on Ash Wednesday.
The reason why they do this stuff, well, guys, Because do the crown and the chakra there, the penile gland, they are inserting, they're trying to insert the kundalini.
You know, I don't know, the Catholic Church is a little bit different.
They're trying to insert the same kind of serpent spirit, but it's not the kundalini.
I mean, do the version of the kundalini.
It's all the same thing.
I mean, it's all from Satan.
So that's what they're doing.
They're purposely doing this stuff so you fall for this stuff.
And it's such a possession, you know what I mean?
It's crazy.
But, you know, the thing is we want to discover how we could counterfeit this.
We could counter them, sorry, and defeat this.
And Trey's wife, Sarah, how are you doing, Sarah?
Good morning, Sarah.
Hi guys!
How's it going?
She can hear you guys now.
We're good.
So, Sarah, she's better than...
Welcome, Sarah.
I was supposed to be here on time.
That's alright.
I fell right asleep.
The show just started.
The show just started.
We're just getting warmed up.
Three kids makes me very very exhausted most of the time.
But I'm here.
Awesome.
So Sarah she went to these churches for years and Trey said you have some testimonies about first hand about being in these places so the mic's yours.
Oh gosh.
Yeah, so it was an interesting time in my life when we first started going to church.
I didn't come from a family that grew up in church.
My mom was very against the entire idea.
And then right after I turned 13, we started going to a little hole-in-the-wall Baptist church.
It was very quiet, you know, very mild-mannered.
And then My aunt invited us to a church that my great-grandfather had actually helped build.
And she said, you know, it's not what you're used to, it's very loud, it's very upbeat, you know.
She was like, good music, good people, you know, it's great!
So come on!
So, the first few Sundays, it actually was, you know, compared to going to a very quiet little Baptist church, it was.
It was great music, great conversation, great people, and the pastor, who I found out later was actually family, was amazing.
I didn't, you know, it's not like I thought it would be.
It kind of snuck up on me, the way they did things.
When you first go in, it can seem just like a little A little more exciting than you're used to, but completely normal.
It started with the little things.
I'll say like one of the first times I ever saw one of these movements where the pastor just allowed like, you know, free prayer and worship up in the front.
It was probably four or five Sundays after I started going there.
He said, you know, he said, I just feel it today.
This is one of those days I'm not going to be able to preach.
He said, I feel the Holy Spirit move in.
So, you know, I just want to invite you all to, you know, worship in the front, worship in the back, take off your shoes, have a good time.
So that's what they did.
You know, everyone started moving around like It was, it was like setting the stage for this big thing.
Everybody knew where they were going to be and where they were supposed to be.
And all of a sudden, I just remember as a 13 year old girl, there was just screaming and I didn't know what was going on.
It was screaming and I looked and it was, it was these older women screaming at the, knock my headphone out.
Screaming at the top of their lungs.
Um, and as they were screaming, I just remember their hands going across people's foreheads and smacking them.
And they would all, one after the other, hit the ground, hit the ground.
There were these men whose jobs were just to catch these people and lay them out on the ground.
Yeah, it it all seemed they made it look so Exciting like this was the Holy Spirit's job.
That was why he was there that day For those people to be hit on the head and knocked out, you know at 13 I didn't process much of it other than I was completely freaked out So afterwards these people when they stood up and
All I remember was that they couldn't talk clearly, their eyes were real red and hazed over, their speech was slurred, and you couldn't have a direct conversation with them.
And I remember asking my aunt, I was like, what's going on?
She was like, that's what we call being drunk in the spirit.
They were so laid out in the Holy Spirit that they've become as if they were drunk.
And, you know, I remember, you know, the story of people thinking that the apostles were drunk because of the Holy Spirit being near them.
So, didn't think anything of it.
These people came back the next Sunday and were totally fine.
But I just remember that it didn't feel right.
Right.
So it it took a few more times of stuff like that for me to realize something wasn't right.
I remember there was one time there was this grand march around the church where we were all told to take our shoes off and march, you know, like they did around the wall in the Bible.
I remember we just opened the doors of the church and we walked it and we walked it.
And people would just start falling where they were in place in the line and people would have to catch them and lay them out until half the line was on the ground.
That was the first thing that struck me was how many times people were just smacked and laid out.
Wow.
Yeah, it was very daunting as a teenager For when they would get up, I started avoiding them because they wouldn't be able to speak clearly and it scared me.
Like, I didn't understand why, you know, it happened differently in the Bible than what I was seeing.
But, you know, I was just told to go with it.
You don't ask the questions.
You don't question the Holy Spirit.
He does his job and you accept what you're left with of the person.
I'm going to pause you right there for a moment.
All right.
So I'm going to mute her real quick.
And I'm going to address this comment in the chat. - Because there's some things I can keep my mouth on.
I can keep my mouth silent on.
And then there's stuff like this.
So Roger, I'm going to call you out by name because, um, what you're saying, and I'm going to try to do this as lovingly as I possibly can.
If it were not for average Joes, you would not have your Bible because that is who the Holy Spirit chose to communicate the truth for Scripture.
Hey, I like the fact that you want to hear the Bible.
But testimony is also important because people can testify to the false things that they've seen.
That's how it's exposed.
So if you want to see the Bible, by all means, if that's what you want, you should have one.
If not, there's one in every hotel nightstand.
So feel free to check in at some time.
But if you don't like it, you don't have to be here.
We're glad that you are here and we're hoping you're hearing truth.
But there's nothing keeping you here.
Um, Dan, I hope you don't mind me saying that.
No, it's out of my mouth, man.
That's just the reality of the matter is, is testimonies are important.
And my wife, she's seen this stuff firsthand.
If you don't like it, go home, Roger.
Yeah.
Um, I mean, I, I, I hate to sound mean, cause that's not what I want.
But the reality of the matter is, is, Nobody's forcing you to be here.
If you don't like it, please move on because you're distracting others from getting a blessing.
Yeah, just go read the Bible for yourself.
I'm gonna sit back and shut up now and turn it back over to her.
Yeah, just go read the Bible for yourself, Roger.
You know what I mean?
And that's what we're saying.
It's not coming from our mouths.
We're reciting scripture.
You know what I mean?
And uh, you know, you say people being hateful, I guess.
I don't know, moderators.
No, nobody's being hateful.
We're just, uh, telling the truth.
You know what I mean?
If the truth sounds hateful, you know, when Jesus went around, um, yelling at people, calling generational rapists, him and Paul and all that, they didn't care if they, uh, they didn't even tell him the truth.
You know what I mean?
So we're not here to be politically correct.
We're not like the average church that people go to.
We're not here to, uh, blow smoke up butts, uh, smooth talk things, and tickly ears and all that.
We're telling you the straight up truth.
We didn't like the truth when we first read it.
Me, none of us did.
You know what I mean?
But deal with it.
You're an adult.
Deal with the truth.
That's what the scripture says.
You know what I mean?
We're supposed to challenge our spirit.
And I challenge you to challenge us.
Challenge you to redo it for yourself.
So that's my take.
My little rant.
So go ahead, Sarah.
I'm sorry.
No, amen to everything you said.
So I want to segue that into my first healing ceremony.
Because the, you know, what I had experienced, it was kind of as if they were Slowly making me used to these things as normal so that I wouldn't see how far that they had strayed.
He told me, you know, when I woke up that he had already versed you on some of what happened during my first healing ceremony.
They invited this man to come preach who was apparently very well renowned.
I'd never heard his name before that night.
I just remember he was, you know, an older gentleman.
And he set up this little itty bitty blow up kiddie pool in the front of the church and I remember him dropping bits of anointing oil in it and saying that it was holy water now.
And we were all again instructed to take off our shoes.
And, you know, my mother, you know, thinking that she was doing, I guess, you know, her very best for me, you know, I was forced to be in this line.
And so were my sisters.
And then after we were forced to do it once, we'd get back in the line and do it again.
Until, I believe we stopped probably midnight, 1 a.m., which was considered, you know, a blessing from God that we were allowed to be in his presence that long.
And that's what I believe.
That's what I went with.
If it was God's presence, it would have been.
Hey, can you flick that back on?
I can't reach it.
Nope, that's not it.
There's a switch on that.
All right, give me a second, guys.
So once you put your feet in this water, the older gentleman that was invited to be over this healing ceremony, He would have someone behind you, someone in front of you, and someone on the side of you, and then he would be on the other side of you.
So all four sides of you were covered.
And I remember his hands were covered in anointing oil to the point where his hands were completely soaking wet.
And he would put his hand right here on everyone's head.
And continuously as he prayed and yelled louder at you would smack you until you were forced to either fall down or get out of the pool.
So I remember, you know, as a 13 year old, the last smack that he gave me, it sent me flying backwards and an older man behind me caught me.
And I remember he looked at me and he said, you're healed now.
How great does that feel?
And I thought healed from what?
But I didn't say anything.
You know, he didn't, you know, he didn't, you know, have a message for me about what I was being healed from or anything.
He didn't have any specifics.
He just said, you're healed now.
So I got out of the pool and I watched the rest of the line.
And there was this woman that had been there for his nights of preaching that was on a walker.
that um got in the pool and after she got out of the pool she got in the line she got in the pool again probably about three times because she desperately wanted to be off her walker so and i remember her being hit over and over and over again and she wouldn't fall because you know after being on a walker being this way he couldn't really knock her back so it was almost as if he got upset with her for that and you know he was told he told all the men around her to take her out of the pool.
So later on after the pool was cleaned up you know we were worshiping some more.
He ended up going to her on dry land, is what he said, and smacking her again until she did fall that time and someone caught her and laid her out.
When she stood up, he took her hand and threw her walker to the side.
He said, you won't be needing that anymore, Jesus told me.
and grabbed her hands and walked backwards a few steps so that she walked forward about two or three steps and you know everyone cheered and cried that she was healed and came up to her and told her how wonderful it was she would never need her walker again until the very next night when she had to come back on her walker and was actually in more pain from having fallen backwards and being caught and
I remember that was the first time my faith in Jesus himself was ever shook because I thought he did that.
I thought that he took away her healing for some reason or that he didn't do his full job correctly and I was very angry.
I was angry for a while at Jesus that he would do that to an old woman.
It wasn't until a couple years later that we found out that this man that they had invited in was Having indecent liberties with minors and was actively cheating on his own wife and actually didn't believe a word of anything he said himself, that, you know, I was able to backpedal from that being Jesus's fault.
But it caused, if it did with me, you know, at my young age, I'm sure it did with some of the older people there.
The adults completely shook them.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, it's... These healing ceremonies, and I've probably been to over a dozen, they all go the same way.
You know, first it's the mass chaos.
It's everybody goes to their place and sets the stage, and every single one of them is speaking in tongues.
Wow.
Well, thanks, they are.
I've seen people speaking in tongues and screaming and spinning, just constantly spinning while they were doing it.
I've seen them doing it on their face.
Like, I've seen women who couldn't control their own dresses and I remember they would grab the end of their dresses while they were speaking in tongues and kind of flap them.
You know, because they just, I guess, I was told had so much of the Holy Spirit just writhing in them that they were lifting their dress and pulling it up and down Because they couldn't control what was inside of them, they had to get it out.
The screaming, the screaming was something I actually got desensitized to.
I remember at the, there was a tent revival that we had where we were outside with no AC in the middle of July in North Carolina.
And it was probably about 95 degrees even after the sun went down and the revival was, you know, still going until 10, 11, 30 that night.
I remember going to this every night, six, seven nights in a row, this tent revival.
And I just would walk in, you know, even if we were just a few minutes late, people were already screaming.
And at some point it became normal to me that that's what they did.
But it was a scream as if they were in pain, you know?
And then you're told what you're told about this screaming that, oh, that's their pain coming out of them so that they can have more Jesus.
The screaming in pain is normal.
Let me slam you across the head a couple times.
It's normal.
It's normal.
That's what happened.
I'm still here though.
Who says I changed the battery pack?
Oh, what?
I can still hear you though.
I'm sorry sir.
I've got to get a dummy battery.
It should be here soon.
But we're still here.
Yeah.
It kind of reminds me of that movie Fletch with Jimmy Lee Pond.
Yeah, that movie Fletch lives with Chevy Chaser.
That was part two there when they had that fake minister there.
So I have a question, Sarah.
What happens when they, did anybody ever crack their head?
I'm not trying to, this is going to sound really sarcastic.
Did anybody ever crack their head open?
Oh, I did.
Oh, really?
What happens then when the domino effect and they run out of, uh, uh, whatever men to grab everybody.
And then they're smacking the older women and getting them to submit.
And then you're telling me they took your forehead and rubbing it and then your heart.
Well, that's what they do.
And all this, every bit of it goes along with all the new, this new realm of thinking.
I always use that term, but new age.
And they open up, it's all chakra.
It was crazy.
So how did that get blended into that church?
Don't they understand what they're doing?
So these traditions of men and these, these, Other religions have been mixed in and blended into that church and they unknowingly don't know it.
So that's, it's insane.
And then if you get, if you crack your head open, who's going to be responsible?
Do they say that that person just deserved to die because they're, Jesus wasn't with them.
They snagged him and dragged him across the room and they healed or whatever.
Cause they don't want to no longer have to have pain.
I'm not trying to be, I'm not really not trying to be sarcastic.
So we delivered them up.
To Jesus, because Jesus wanted to... Is that what they would say?
Well, we delivered them up.
It was their time to die.
Is that what they would say?
Well, basically, because yeah, a few people did get hurt.
Like someone forgot to catch me when I got knocked over one time and I fell and hit the back of my head on a microphone stand.
Um, and I remember laying there and, you know, it was, it was considered blasphemy if you fell over, you know, after being hit multiple times and you got right back up.
So I was like, okay, you know, I'm going to get in trouble if I get up.
So I'm just going to lay here.
But after about 10 minutes of me being on the floor, someone realized that my head was laying across the microphone stand.
An older gentleman came and scooped up the back of my head and moved me slightly off the microphone stand and they left me there.
And I had seen it a couple of times.
People hit their head and they'll just slowly move them to something soft and leave them there.
The time that they're on the ground, Jesus is dealing with them.
So you know, if they had to hit their head, it was because, I have heard this reasoning, it was because they were so hard-headed, that was the only way Jesus could get them to lay there so he could work on them.
We scalped.
We got scalped.
We got scalped in the church.
It was safer to be in a mosh pit in a rock concert.
Can you imagine the chaos in that place?
You know what I mean?
I'm not trying to be mean or weird.
No, no.
That's exactly how I feel.
Hmm, and you know all of that stuff in the healing ceremonies the healing ceremonies were extremely mild compared to When they were excising demons or thought they were It was more like they were tangling with the demons in the front of the church and having fun communicating with them
So around the age of 14-15 I was given a job because exciting demons became something that they found out that drew a lot of attention and a lot of people to come to the church so they did them often and I always had the question how could the if this is God's house and this is where he is in control how are the demons speaking so freely here?
I never understood it.
And the one that changed my life was, it was a teenage boy.
But I was given the job at 14-15, sorry I skipped a minute.
When they would start communicating with the demons, I was to get all of the babies out of the room.
I helped part time in the nursery.
So when we would come in at the last part, when they started worshipping again right before church was over.
That's when the demons would come out to play and, you know, they would, you know, try to excise this demon out of the person.
I would grab all the babies.
They were like, well, the babies can't be in here.
They're very sensitive spirits.
And if they're around these demons, demons will latch onto them.
So Sarah, you grab babies.
I remember I had a car seat around one arm with a baby in it.
And then I had a toddler on that same hip.
And then I had, you know, a baby thrown over my other shoulder and I had little toddler ducklings following me.
And I was like, come on, come on, we got to go.
And I was to get them out of the room and shut the door and start praying and keep them out of there.
And that was my job.
And the one that really struck me was, it was a teenage boy.
I didn't really go to the teenage church there.
Like, I didn't go when the teenagers went off.
Like, I stayed in the adult church where I was in the nursery.
Um, but I knew this boy, I talked to him, you know, I knew him.
Well, I knew his girlfriend me and her were friends and he came up and the last part where they did like the altar call before that final worship.
I happen to be in service that day.
Um, and he went up and started praying.
Which I thought weird because I'd never seen him do, but then I realized he wasn't speaking English.
He was praying, you know, and everybody was like, oh, he got his, you know, his gift of tongues.
That's great.
You know.
But then he started writhing on the floor and tearing away, trying to tear his clothes off.
So all of a sudden, you know, that was the call to action.
All of the deacons and whatnot got on top of this teenage boy, who I'm telling you was the size of a toothpick.
And there were four over 200 pound grown men holding down each extremity.
He was throwing them off like ragdolls.
It took another one on his back just to keep him down.
And he started, you know, speaking in tongues that I thought were, you know, you know, language of angels is what I was told.
And I was like, well, how is he speaking it?
Until, you know, I remember a family member of mine walking up and she was like, I know exactly, you know, exactly what's going on.
And she looked him in the eyes.
She said, tell me your name.
And, you know, was still speaking, you know, in the tongues and she was like, you will tell me what your name is.
And all of a sudden, I remember his eyes glazing over and this voice that was not the voice of that boy said, my name is Sabaton.
And you invited me here.
And I remember after that, that was when I got the look to grab the babies and go and I remember him screaming in pain and I remember, you know, people praying over him and literally throwing bottles of anointing oil and I was grabbing the babies and I was going And they were in there for about an hour, which was not normal.
You know, when we have Jesus, this is the thing that they said, you know, normally they would just speak to it and it would run away.
You know, so they were in there for about an hour where he was writhing and these men were on top of him.
And then I remember everything just stopped.
It just stopped and, you know, everything got quiet.
He stopped screaming.
He got up off the floor.
He was, you know, his eyes were no longer glazed over and he left.
He came back the next Sunday, completely normal.
He had no recollection of what had happened.
He didn't know anything that was going on, even though he, you know, had physically hurt four grown men trying to throw them off of him.
And he was the tiniest little teenage boy you had ever seen, probably a hundred pounds soaking wet.
He had no recollection of it at all.
That was my first real experience with an evil spirit of any kind.
The name reminds me of a Samaritan name.
That's what it reminds me of whenever you say it.
An ancient Samaritan name, that's the first thing I thought of.
And then I've heard Samaritans, I've heard of this before, that they, when you're doing these things, and you're caught up in this Kundalini thing, and then communicating with demons, a lot of them claim, when they're saying, hey, where do you come from?
Who are you?
And you're trying to call it out, or whatever, and they say they're from Samaritan times, or something.
They'll indicate that they're from that culture.
It's really weird.
When you said the name, Sabaton, right?
It sounds like Samaritan to me.
It does, actually.
Maybe I don't know.
I'm just throwing it out there.
That's what it sounds like to me.
Yeah definitely a name I'll never forget was that's what he called himself I just my you know my family member that came up to him spent a while tracing the name and she hit pins every time she couldn't figure out why he called himself that the the evil spirit did.
So it was just given to me I'm gonna interject here so Sabaton is the Greek word for Sabbaths And this is just, this is the impression that's been left on my heart, so take it for whatever it's worth to you guys.
But when you profane the Sabbath of God, you invite these unclean spirits into where you're at.
When you profane the Sabbath of God, when you forsake His commandments, when you turn from everything you know to be true, you're not following the commandments of God, Hmm.
But following the traditions of men, you invite these in.
When you went in Jesus' day into the synagogue, that was the resting place for demonic spirits.
It says that Jesus went into these synagogues, and he would cast out devils.
And he did it on the Sabbath.
Yep.
See, sabbaton, people don't even realize.
So you see, and you'd miss it if you don't look in the Greek sometimes.
That's why I tell you guys, like, look at your Strong's Concordance when you read.
Because sabaton is the word for weak, and it's the word for Sabbath.
It can mean either or.
But that's what's happening here is we have spirits being invited in because the commandments of God are being forsaken for the traditions of men.
Jesus said it's not what goes into a man that defiles him, but it's what comes from within.
That's what he says in Mark chapter 7 and Matthew chapter 15.
It's not what goes into us.
We eat foods.
And you guys know what foods are.
That's Leviticus 11, Deuteronomy 14.
But it's what's in our hearts.
Disobedience in our hearts is what defiles us.
And then when we are defiled, we are a playground for these unclean spirits.
But if you're not in the commandments of God, you're going to hit a dead end when it comes to what these spirits mean.
So I'm gonna mute my mic and hand it back over to her real quick.
Sorry.
So, yeah, as far as experiences with these churches, I'd say that I went to several and, you know, as a guest that were, you know, linked up, knew my pastor, knew my church, and they all were kind of on the same wavelength, and they all have that same pattern.
It was a while before, you know, I realized that screaming in pain in the church wasn't a normal thing anymore.
I didn't realize how desensitized I had become to that.
And then, you know, I was at a man's house one time.
We went over because they said that he was a prophet.
That was from one of these churches, and they were going to invite him to speak at the churches.
They said he was a prophet, and he knew what was going to happen in the world, and he could read everyone's soul.
I remember when I walked in the room, he looked at me in the eyes, and it was like he could see the inside of me, but not in a good way.
It was like he was reading my very vulnerable teenage spirit and telling me things to shake me to my very core, but because he knew that I trusted that spirit to be from Jesus.
They didn't test the spirits past that.
And I remember when I would question these things, you know, it was considered a crisis of faith.
Which I was having, very much I was having at the time because I was trusted with all of these responsibilities in the church.
So in my mother's eyes, in my family's eyes, that meant that me and Jesus had to be good.
Didn't matter what I thought about what was going on, as long as I had a status in the church, you know, the nursery worker, or, you know, in charge of, you know, the VBS toddler events, you know, etc.
That meant that me and Jesus had to be good, and I wasn't allowed to question.
It wasn't allowed to be wrong at that point, or I would lose that static that I had.
Yeah.
That's some craziness, man.
Yeah, again, like, imagine just, uh... An unbeliever who's like, you know, it's like, let me just give this church a chance, and just walks in the middle of this mess.
Heh!
You know, you're like, you're like my brother here earlier, doing the same thing.
You know what I mean?
Like, um, walks in there, it's like, what in the heck is this?
I mean, I could only imagine the chaos in that place!
I know it's not funny, but man, I could only imagine that.
Probably the babies are probably screaming because babies are sensitive to that stuff.
I couldn't even imagine the chaos going on in that place, spiritual chaos like that.
Yeah, and you'll have to forgive me.
Trey, if you can still hear me too, and Sarah, you'll have to forgive me.
It's just, it's my humor too.
You'll have to forgive me.
When you said, like, the pool of water you was in, and all the chaos, and then you was talking about the bodies falling over, I was literally thinking about, this is awful, this is how defragmented I am when it comes to secular stuff and music.
I was thinking of drowning pool and let the bodies hit the floor and you have to forgive me I'm trying to joke around and cut up for just a split second but that's what it I had this image in my head and you're telling your story and these men trying to catch these old women And you know, you're really inflicting pain on them to get them to submit.
And that's what popped up in my head about drowning.
It was horrible.
But it reminds me of that.
My father and I, that was actually a song that we both loved.
And he would come up to me and he'd be like, Sarah, Sarah, let the No way!
No way!
I would bust out laughing!
No way!
That used to be one of our favorite songs.
No way!
Well that's what it reminded me of.
You're not alone there!
I'm so sorry I brought that back up, but that's what I've had in my mind.
So your dad is hilarious.
Yeah, he hated all the tension that came around these events.
He, you know, he hated being there as much as I did.
So we found ways to amuse ourselves.
So you know exactly what I'm talking about there.
That's hilarious.
I was very much in my teenage years a metalhead and loved it.
I absolutely loved the song and every time we would go to church and it would start happening, he would look at me with those eyes like, Sarah, you know, you know.
Sarah, this is Jason.
You should make a video with, you know, show the video of the church, you know, what's going on in the background, have the song playing.
Yeah.
Make a music video out of it.
Oh no.
Oh my.
I'm going to do that.
I'm going to get some of your videos and I'm going to get Benny Hinn when it's cold.
Something's got to give.
Like the bodies in the floor.
And that's exactly what it looks like.
It just looks like they're falling out to the beat of a metal song.
It's chaos.
That's what I was saying.
I've been to some pretty bad rock concerts and mosh pits and everything.
Some pretty rowdy stuff.
I can picture that the same.
I've been to some churches where I'm like, I fear for my life.
Their eyes are rolling back of their head and their heads are like turning.
And it's really, it freaks me out.
Like, literally, they're on like, I hate, I'm not trying to mock them, it's just they, they look like they're getting ready to cross over when they walk in, but then they're doing like laps or running, running around the auditorium, like running, full-blown sprinting faster than I would.
And it freaks me out.
And I've seen a little bit of taste of what you're saying, and it's very scary.
It's frightening.
It freaks, it's very, it frightens, it shakes me up.
It shakes my spirit up, I'm serious.
You were telling me that when you were telling the story, it was resonating in my mind.
I was thinking about the body hitting the floor.
I'm so sorry I had to say that.
I mean, that's the thing.
It's the writhing that gets to you.
That shaking that you feel in your spirit, you're told, oh, that's the Holy Spirit shakes.
That's what they would call them.
Those are the Holy Spirit shakes.
When something felt so fundamentally wrong inside of me that my muscles were contracting and I had the chills all over.
Oh, you got the Holy Spirit shake, Sarah!
That's so great!
You know, and these women that, you know, came in there with their Sunday best on and all the eyeliner and then they're on the floor and the eyeliner's running down their face and their muscles are contracting and they're writhing and they can't control their dresses.
Like, you know, I've seen women get half undressed on the floor of the church because, oh, the Spirit was in them so strong.
You know, that's not their job to watch out for their decency.
So we had these cloths that we were supposed to throw over them or hold over them until they were done writhing.
And these were, you know, 50, 60 year old women.
And that's supposed to be appropriate setting.
That's supposed to be the author.
God is not the author of confusion.
And that's a confusing setting.
That's a very confusion and that causes discord and people to lose like all faith.
They're like freaking out and they're like in a traumatic state, like you were saying.
And it's traumatizing to children, all this stuff.
No wonder.
I mean, yeah, get the babies to the nursery.
We're getting ready to have us a rock and roll concert.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, I'm not trying to mock, but that's what it is.
That's the feeling I get.
It took me a lot of years to undo the damage that was done to me spiritually and mentally.
In that church that, you know, it didn't help, you know, my mother was a very, you know, children need to appear perfect in church so that no one knows that we've ever had a problem in our life and committed a sin.
So I wasn't allowed to question these things, you know.
I had to appear as if everything was going according to plan, you know, and I would have friends, you know, that would stay the weekend with me and then, you know, we'd go to church Sunday morning and all of a sudden they weren't my friends anymore.
They wanted nothing to do with me and it was extremely embarrassing.
So once that started happening, my mom was like, well you just need a new title in the church to re-establish your faith.
So they put me in charge of teaching the teenagers.
The same age as me, but I was considered more spiritually mature than them because I was able to deal with being in the room with all this happening, even though I didn't have a choice.
And if I wasn't there, I was scolded and I was grounded and all these things.
So I started teaching the teenager class.
Had barely ever opened a Bible in my life.
We just started going to church when I was 13.
Every time I would start to feel like something was fundamentally wrong to the point I couldn't ignore it anymore, they'd just give me a new title.
They'd just put me in charge of more stuff.
So that I was so busy I didn't have time to question it.
And I remember the day that things changed for me.
That I knew that my faith was going to go a different path.
We had these classes that the elders would each teach a class on, you know, the Bible and spirituality, etc.
And we would all split up and go to our different classes depending on where we wanted to be.
I wanted to be anywhere but with the rest of my family in these classes.
So I picked one that there was only about five people in.
And there was this woman, I'd seen her in the church, you know, she'd always worn skirts, and she was an older woman, and she's always been friendly to me, so I was like, well, I'll go to her class.
She only taught from the Old Testament in these classes.
She was, you know, she had just come out of Judaism to become, she was basically a Messianic Jew at this point, now that I'm looking back at it I know.
But I remember that class separated me from the craziness of the church long enough to fall in love with God's law.
For the first time, I realized the beauty behind it.
And that's when I knew I couldn't stand for what was going on anymore.
And I was about to turn 16, and as soon as I did, I got a job.
I worked every single Sunday to avoid that place.
And it took me years to get back in church.
Years.
Because every single time I thought about going to church, that's all that I could picture was the screaming and the writhing and the pain and the demons and the babies that I was in charge of.
And I know people who went to that church who now will never, you know, still to this day have it step back into a church.
Because they hit such a high there, like, you know, that spiritual, that evil spiritual drug, they hit that high.
They couldn't find a church to meet that, so they started, you know, drinking and smoking and, you know, hitting actual drugs because the spiritual high couldn't be matched from anything that these churches had to offer.
It was like they kept trying to up what they were doing to keep people's interests.
Wow.
And it took a long time, you know, for me to ever step back in a church, you know, and then, you know, when, um, I met my husband when I was, I was 16, you know, obviously he wasn't my husband then, but when we, when we got engaged and he was going to a church in town, you know, I was very reluctant to go, but that's what started our journey to where we are now.
So I know it was all supposed to happen.
So that I could have this story, so that I could, you know, spread awareness of what Jesus does not look like in a church.
But these churches don't realize that at the expense of trying to get more people in the door, because what they're doing seems so up there spiritually, seems so important, that they are damaging, irreparably some of them, the faith of dozens, if not hundreds of people.
Absolutely.
It's just complete chaos.
I got a little treat for you guys.
So check this out.
Ready?
Hold on a second.
Is Benny hitting on the video there?
There we go.
I think we have no idea what you said.
I must have hit a button that muted it.
We just couldn't hear you.
I think you guys could hear us.
There's Benny Hinn there.
I just had to throw that in there.
Just put the body to the floor and Benny Hinn waving his coat and everybody's falling over.
Oh no.
Sorry I just threw that in there.
Bring up the modality of this first.
Oh come on man.
But uh I mean I mean what's what what I just have this random thought in my head are you supposed to have like a like uh You might get popped in the head and leave bloody red.
I mean, what?
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I mean?
Caution!
Popped in the head, leave you bloody red.
I mean, caution.
You might have an accident today.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I was stretched out.
When I came back, I got a concussion by my...
Yeah, but I'll be ok.
Oh, and it was a favorite of the pastor to go to the very back row of the church.
It was a favorite for him to go to the people who, it was their first Sunday there, and grab them and pull them to the front.
And have all the elders and the deacons and whatnot pray over them until they passed out on the floor.
Like, it was his honor.
It was his badge that he wore proudly on his chest.
It's like when I went to that church with my brother.
The guy noticed that was like the newest one there.
He came running up to me, started like babbling I guess in his tongues, I don't know.
He went to put his hand on my head.
I just smacked his hand away.
I was like, what the hell is going on?
He's like, get away from me.
Yeah, like it's so normal to them that they don't realize to people outside they look certifiable.
It's not normal.
That's not... And I know it.
I can speak it confidently now.
That's not how Jesus operates.
Nope.
It's not.
But I was always told that spirituality was a two-sided dish sponge.
You needed your row of like, it was like the A-string of the soccer team or, you know, the football team.
It was the offensive line.
They go in, they're hard, and they scare the heck out of you because they're the green abrasive side of that sponge.
They have to get all, you know, get y'all shook up in order to get the dirt off of you.
And then you bring in the calm, mild-mannered, you know, older ladies that would Uh, be the yellow side of the sponge to help, you know, finally rub away all the stains of your sin.
That's what I was told.
Spirituality is a two-sided dish sponge, Sarah.
It's a two-sided dish sponge.
So we needed that.
We would not get people to love Jesus and hear what he had to say if we were not rough and abrasive and get all up in their face first.
The Bible, the word of God was freely given that you don't beat everybody over the head with.
You know what I'm saying?
You don't beat people up.
The Holy Spirit is the one that's in charge of that.
Oh, I've seen people physically smacked with a Bible.
Yeah, I'm hearing you.
I mean, if they're taking the grannies out and trying to beat them to the floor, they're going to hit them with the Bibles for sure.
Yeah.
I mean, I remember these women having to be carried to their cars by the older men because they physically couldn't walk because they were drunk.
That's what I was told.
You know, they were drunk.
They were slain in the spirit was another phrase they used.
Lord Jesus.
I actually, I know I come across as probably, I'm not trying to mock anybody, I really am genuinely asking these questions.
I'm going to have to pray about this because it goes around, it's in my part of the woods too, so I understand.
I've never been into the, in the place where they all fall down, but I have been small, like I said earlier, small little events that get a little wild.
You know, the eyes, back, you can see the white in their eyes and It trips you out.
It trips you out.
It's like, whoa, this is like an exorcism or something going on, but it's really trippy stuff.
There's not somebody translating what they're speaking, and how in the world are they able to understand the tongues?
What was the excuse for that at that place of worship that y'all met at?
Did anybody ever have an interpreter, or do they just keep smacking everybody?
So it depended on the setting when they all you know when the stage was set and they all went to their different places That was considered their quote-unquote personal prayer So it was okay that more than one person was speaking in tongues because it was their personal prayer But if one person, you know, we would we would do this thing where?
The pastor would say, OK, you know, I feel like I feel like God has a word for us.
I feel it in my spirit that God has a word for us.
So everybody is going to close their eyes and be quiet until the word appears.
So and then at that point, the person, you know, would stand up and babble in the tongues for a while after two or three minutes.
And that was considered the word.
And then we'd sit there for sometimes.
I mean, I remember it being up to 45 minutes before the interpreter stood up and interpreted what the tongues were.
At that time, they did require it.
If you stood up and spoke in the tongues during that time when the pastor said that God had a word and there was no interpreter, then you were exiled.
That was wrong.
You weren't hearing from God at that moment.
But they would wait 30-45 minutes for this other person to come up and interpret what was said.
Um, but when we were, when everyone was all like in their little corners and whatnot, they would all, I remember it was up to seven, eight people at one time speaking in tongues then.
And it was okay that, like I was told, it was okay that there was no interpreter for that because they weren't praying to, oh, you lost me.
You're still there.
Oh, can they hear me?
Yep.
He keeps pressing buttons.
That Trey boy's gone and done it again.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good job, Trey.
My headphones were tangled up.
I had to unplug them and plug them right back in.
Real quick, sir.
Here's another question.
Cause I, cause I, I have family that kind of is in this type of settings.
So I have a question just to hear what you have to say.
Here's a question.
If they're communicating with demons and talking to them, do they not read the Bible that says not to do that?
I can't understand.
So if they're talking to a demon, don't they know that the devil is real?
So that's why they're congregating with the church.
So why would you come around and say, yeah, we got, you know, whatever, whatever type of name, Yoda showing up or whatever, and we're communicating with him.
Why are you letting that demon talk?
Why are you letting it speak?
That's my, I don't understand.
Like I'm trying to, I mean, I get it.
I get the concept, but I don't understand why they're preaching, saying they're preaching the word of God.
And how are they... You're literally opening the church to a beacon.
You're delivering demons inside your congregation.
So how do they justify that?
Oh, in the most creative way possible.
So, where it says in the Bible not to do exactly the things we're doing, those were for the spiritually weak to protect them.
And we were spiritually strong.
We were the ones that God had called out above all the others to do this important work because Yeah, we were the ones that could do it.
We had our spirits in the right place.
So we were meant to conquer this.
This was the reason the church was built.
Because God was going to call all these demon possessed people to us because we were the only ones that were allowed to handle it.
That God had spoken to them and gave them that job separate of his word.
He had called them out.
Because we were strong enough to handle it.
because we allowed all the screaming and the Holy Spirit was flowing, that meant that we were a place that could handle all the demon people.
So they can be, they can, this is going to sound really bad.
I know I'm using a lot of secular references, but they can be their own, like Jedi Knights.
Like they have the force, but you can't have it.
They're able to contain it.
We can contain it.
This building, we can contain it.
But would they unknowingly, like you said about the people that have never been able to satisfy, like they can't find a church because they have to find other means.
So they open up doors and mess these people's lives up.
Is that what I'm hearing?
No, that's exactly what's happening.
And yes, so I didn't even get to this part, the transfer of power ceremonies.
Because that's exactly what it was like.
It was like they were Jedi Knights and they had the force.
So in order to raise up the next generation to do this work, they had the transfer of power ceremonies.
We would meet in houses, you know, because that's what the Bible said that we were to go to each other's houses So that's what we did we would have food and stuff and you know after we had fellowshiped and whatnot The person who was chosen to have a transfer of this power into them to be able to do this work They would take them the elders would take them into one of the bedrooms of these houses and close the door Nobody was allowed like there was a guard at the door.
Nobody was allowed in it.
And yeah, I was I was I Forced to be involved in these so I know what happens behind the door They would I remember This one of the women she put her hand on my stomach like and she didn't just place her hand on my stomach I remember she like curled her fingernails and grabbed like my stomach and then she had another hand on the small of my back and
And I remember the feeling, you know, because at the time, you know, I was, I was probably 14 or 15 when this happened specifically to me.
And I remember, and it didn't make sense to me until, you know, Trey had talked to me about, you know, the Kundalini Spirit and how things wind around your spine, why their hand was on the small of my back.
Because as they were doing this transfer power and they were praying over me to get the power to be this next generation.
I remember my spine seized up.
I remember that all I could do was have perfect posture at this moment.
Like I remember, but then it was like my body started fighting it.
Like my body did not want to be there anymore.
And I remember like, Trying to get their hands off of me and trying to get out of the room, but I was told you know That was all the evil inside of me trying to escape the Jesus that was coming into me So they had to hold me tighter Yeah, and went on the small of my back, and then I had another person that was holding my head up straight I Um, there was a hand on my forehead and a hand on the back of my head, so like I said, between that and the feeling, I had to have perfect posture.
I remember I couldn't bend, not even one degree, and they were praying over me in these tongues, and they were shouting, and there was oil, and the room was completely dark, like, because having the lights on would just distract me.
I needed to have my eyes closed.
Until they said that the transfer of power was complete.
Now sometimes people would walk out of that room and they would say, no, it didn't work.
Jesus hadn't chosen this person, you know, it's for someone else.
And sometimes they would come out of the room.
They were like, yeah, they got it.
This is, this is the person, you know, it worked.
We could feel the power go into us or out of us and into them.
And that's our, you know, the perfect posture.
We just showed you guys earlier too.
The perfect posture is like when you do deep levels of yoga and all that Hinduism.
You have to maintain a perfect posture to align your chakras, to allow the kundalini.
You notice how they, you know, she's saying they had the hand in certain places because they were injecting the kundalini.
That's why they kept her at a perfect posture.
For that.
And yeah, this is just crazy stuff, man.
And uh... Then again, if any of you vegans out there, whoever, digs that.
It's the Holy Spirit.
Yeah.
It's not a coincidence that it's the exact same way as the Kundalini and anything else.
The occult, these rituals of these other Eastern religions and the yoga and everything else.
It's not a coincidence.
It's the same darn thing, you know?
And this is coming from a person here.
This, um... Sarah here.
She... She's a living example of this, you know?
Yeah, and I mean, that's something I'll never forget to this day, you know.
I don't remember any of what the tongues they were speaking in sound like or what the actual, you know, quote-unquote words were coming out of their mouth.
I don't remember a single thing.
I just remember the feeling of hands on me, and I remember my spine.
I remember it so vividly to this day that, you know, I can still feel it sometimes if I think about it enough, how my spine couldn't bend and how scared I was.
But, you know, I was told, you know, that fear is good because it means the evil is leaving your body.
And, you know, that Jesus is coming into you.
And that means you're the next generation that needs this power from us.
And how much of an honor it was told to me that it was.
And I remember when I got out of the room that I hunched over all the way.
And I put my elbows on my knees and I stayed kind of in this ball in the corner.
And I made it look like, you know, I was just resting my chin on my hand.
So it looked all normal.
But I couldn't straighten my spine the rest of the night.
I wanted to stay hunched over in the spa and protect the middle of me.
I wanted to be in the fetal position.
I wanted so desperately to be in the fetal position.
As if that was God's way of saying, you know, humble yourself back to that infant-like state right now for me so that what they just tried to put into you wouldn't stay there.
Oh yeah, but afterwards, you know, they fed me real good.
They were like, oh, you need all your strength and they gave me all these sweets and stuff.
So like, you know, after that, it was great.
They were my best friends.
Like they were holding me in perfect posture for 20 some minutes and, you know, had me in a completely dark room, like a torture chamber.
It wasn't like that.
After that, they fed me.
So it was great.
Yeah.
They, they beat you up, spiritually abused you probably, uh, you know, God knows what else.
And then here you go, here's some dinner for her.
Yeah, exactly.
Unreal, man.
Oh, man.
Woo!
Lots of taking in.
Yeah, that's incredible stuff, man.
Good testimony.
Yeah.
It's like walking up to somebody and punching them in the face.
Yeah, have a cracker.
Yeah, that's what it felt like.
Jesus told me to do this today.
You just got, you just got spiritually punched.
You know?
Yeah.
I mean, it's insane.
It's actually insane.
I'm sorry.
It's that green side of the sponge.
That's what I was told.
You know, we got to smack them first, Sarah.
We got to.
Wow.
Unbelievable.
Wow.
Yeah, man, it sounds like a professional wrestling match.
We beat each other up, then we go have dinner with each other after.
Well, and it wasn't even like that this was some, you know, mega church out in the middle of the city.
You know, it was a little old country church.
It had wheat farms on either side.
You know, my great granddaddy built, physically built the wood doors that were on the original church.
Like, so that was my legacy.
That was my family church.
It had all of, you know, at its very best day, it had all of 200 people there.
So that's what I think the other thing that people, when they think about these churches, they think they have to be in the megachurches.
They have to be 2,000, 3,000 people.
It has to have all the sound equipment and stuff.
And that's what brings all this evil in.
No, I mean, we had an itty-bitty PA system, you know, and the hardwood pews, and, you know, the ugly green carpet on the floor was an old little country church.
It can be anywhere.
It can be five members or five thousand members.
It can be in the place that you least expect it to be.
If we're not constantly, in our Bible, figuring out what God says is supposed to be spiritually correct by reading his word and asking the Holy Spirit to be our teacher that we can easily be fooled because they're going to desensitize you first.
They're going to make it look, you know, like at first, you know, your first few times it'll be just the screaming until the screaming is completely normal.
And then, oh, you know, it's okay that people are falling out on the floor because at least they stopped screaming once they got down there.
You know, oh, you know, at least afterwards it's a, it's potluck day, you know, and everybody brought food and let's go eat together and Those women that were just riding and pulling up their dresses, they're fine now.
They're eating a piece of cake and collards next to me.
I'm sorry, that sounded very southern coming out of my mouth.
He tells me to watch my accent when I'm talking real fast.
Sorry if you can't understand.
Sarah, nobody can understand what I'm saying either.
Look at me, I've got that Rhode Island accent.
You've got that Rhode Island accent.
Yep, yeah.
In the Northeast.
You've got to park our cars, you know?
Yeah, and he says I swallow my R's real fast, like when I'm talking real fast, and I can't have the accent anymore, and I just swallow them whole, like, so, but yes, that, it can be anywhere.
And it took me, you know, I remember 2018, you know, when we started, you know, questioning things for ourself.
And we really started studying the Bible and I, for the first time, was allowing only the Holy Spirit to be my teacher.
How I would have these flashes of these things that happen and it was like, it was like God was helping take me back through them for a learning experience and a healing experience for me, but also so that I could raise that awareness for others.
Like, to show them how easily they can be pulled into it because As a 13 year old, when I first stepped into those doors, you know, that could have been, that could have been, I could have easily, you know, that transfer of power, let it happen and, you know, fallen into it and said, this is where I was supposed to be.
You know, this was my church.
This was, you know, my family was the worship team.
My family built it.
You know, I could have easily let that be who I was supposed to be.
It was so easy to not listen to what the Holy Spirit said because you felt important.
Because you felt like every time you questioned something, they gave you another job.
So that meant that your questioning, you know, didn't have to happen because now you had this job and Jesus was blessing you with more.
And it was so, they made it so incredibly easy.
As much and as intense as it sounds, you know, it sounds crazy, and it was.
It was a madhouse.
You were taught that you were blessed to be able to experience it.
And because you were, that Jesus had these wonderful, great plans for you inside that church and beyond to carry what was happening in the church to the nations.
That was your job, like, you had to be okay with what was going on so that you could continue on that work when that older generation had gone.
And it wasn't until, you know, 2018, you know, mind you, 2018 I was 23 years old, so this was 10 years later.
That I let the Holy Spirit for the first time.
I said, you know, God, you know, my husband's going through these things and he's having these questions and I need to know if he's certifiable and I need to leave him because he's turning his back to you or I need to know if he's truly seeking you and he's getting the answers that I've been looking for for these ten years.
Like, I need to know.
So I opened it, and for the first time, I didn't have any prerequisites in my mind.
I didn't have any way that it was supposed to go.
I let the Holy Spirit teach me for the first time.
And when my eyes opened, it did physically feel like the scales fell off.
It felt like my spine was loosened, like all that had had a hold on me about what spirituality and Jesus was supposed to be like was finally gone.
And I couldn't unsee how wrong it was.
I couldn't unsee and unfeel how bad it was.
But it took 10 years and my husband asking the right questions to God himself before I got there.
I had nothing to do with the charismatic movement in that 10 years.
I didn't keep going to the churches.
I was in no church until we were going to that little church together the last couple of years before that in 2016.
But before that, those few years, I was not in a church.
I just accepted that's the way Jesus was and I didn't like it.
So, he was there.
I loved him, but I didn't want anything to do with him.
You know, I knew I needed to love him to get to heaven, so that's where I kept my line of love with him, but I knew, well, I thought I knew that if I let him in in any more than that, I would have to accept all that, you know, all that stuff every Sunday.
It would have to be something that I did.
So I kept Jesus at arm's length.
I love you because I don't want to go to hell.
And that's the relationship we can have.
Let me stretch my arms all the way out and Jesus you be at my fingertips.
Don't be in my heart.
Don't let me be your temple.
Be at my fingertips.
Let me have just enough of you that I don't go to hell.
So I had to reestablish my entire relationship with him.
We had to start at ground zero like I was a newborn baby.
Oh yeah, especially after being through all that.
That would confuse anybody.
Thank God you kept with it, because most people would have been like, I'm done with this whole Jesus thing, see you later.
Thank the Lord that you actually pushed forward to understand what was really going on.
Yeah, and I thank God for that every day, that I at least had a little taste of Him.
I say that it was my grandma's prayers that had prayed over me when I was in my mother's womb and when I was an infant.
She's the one who taught me how to read at four years old.
She was legally blind, so she had me read the Bible to her every single time I was over there.
I think that was...
Because of her prayers and because of her faith that, you know, I wasn't completely cast aside and, you know, I didn't completely cast Jesus aside and, you know, God leading me to who my husband is because, you know, he was no man of God when we met and I was 16 and he was 18.
You know, we were teenagers.
But, you know, God put us together.
He knew what he was doing and it's literally The biggest blessing of my life that I was able to find my way through that.
Because, you know, I have, you know, I have siblings and cousins who were in that same church who now, you know, they still don't have a real relationship with God because that's all they accept about Him is what they've seen in that church because they were there with me.
You know, I, you know, by the grace of God and the grace of God alone, That I am on the path that I'm on now, but so many more didn't get to where I am.
So many more have written God off completely because He wasn't able to fix them in what they consider the most spiritually pure place they have ever been.
So that means they must be damned.
Wow.
Yeah, man.
I couldn't imagine the confusion that would be going on in there.
You know, and they're just like, uh, yeah, that's, uh, that's mind boggling.
I mean, he has totally you grew up in those structures, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, thank the Lord that you're back on the right path, I should say.
The straight and narrow.
That shows you guys out there.
If you're in these churches, you know what I mean?
What binds these churches, I'm sure Sarah can relate to.
Because of the number one family tradition.
As she said, her grandfather built the doors of the church.
So that would keep her going.
That would keep people going.
Something like that.
Or just like your whole family goes.
Oh, my grandparents went here.
I want to keep this tradition going, and you know, what does Jesus say about that?
You know, about traditions of men.
You know, when the elders scolded Jesus because his disciples didn't wash their hands before they ate, because it was a Jewish tradition, and Jesus scolded them right back.
Listen, that's traditions of you people.
It's not traditions of God, you know what I mean?
We're supposed to follow God rather than man, you know what I mean?
And not man's tradition.
So if you're binding one of these churches, same thing with the Catholics.
When we were younger, me and my brother, we were in the Catholic church, and we were told we were here because our grandfather went here and our father and everything else.
So it was like they call it a tradition, you know what I mean?
And the family, that's where they bind you to these religions.
You know, we've got to break those traditions, you know what I mean?
And you know what?
People say, well, it's going to upset my grandmother.
You don't mean to upset them, but the thing is, would you rather upset your grandmother or upset God?
Personally, me, I would rather upset my grandmother, not that I want to know, but I would rather upset her than the father.
You know what I mean?
So that's a choice you've got to make.
And I mean, that's, you know, that's what I've chosen.
You know, I'd rather be in God's good graces than my family's and it's caused some hard decisions because, you know, even conversations with like my mom and my aunt, you know, my mom once sent me something, a clip of a sermon from Stephen Furtick.
And she was like, listen to this amazing word from God.
And she got very angry at me.
I said, mama, do you realize all the things this man says that haven't lined up with the Bible?
I said, do you realize that, you know, the Bible says that once he does that publicly and he doesn't repent that he's a false teacher?
I said, do you realize how many times he said things that actively, actively go against the word of God?
She was like, no.
I said, well, I mean, here, you know, you know, I did my due diligence, you know, I was like, well, here's the evidence, here's, you know, the scriptures that he goes against, you know, and here's the clips of him saying these things.
Never heard from her again about that subject.
You know, and I would hear from my aunt, you know, about, She loves the TV preachers.
They had an amazing Word of God this morning.
The Holy Spirit fell right there on TV and listened to what he said.
But this doesn't line up with scripture, so I can't listen to it.
It's really hard because these women raised me.
My biological father wasn't in my life, and I didn't meet my stepfather, who was my father, until I was 11 years old.
So these women, they raised me.
They were in my childhood.
They were the ones that fed me, made sure I had clothes.
So to have to look them in the eye and do these things is the hardest thing that I've ever done.
It is, but I know that I answer to him and him alone.
I don't answer to them anymore.
I'm a grown woman.
Absolutely.
But they would rather keep me in that bubble of me being a 13, 14 year old teenager who did what they said because, you know, I had to.
So I have to listen to them because they're my elders.
That's in their mind.
And you know, I'm never disrespectful about it.
You know, at least I don't try to be in their minds.
You know, I still am, but that's what it's going to take.
It's going to take us comparing every single thing we're told.
That's why we're told to test all spirits.
Every single thing we're told or presented with, we test it and test it and test it.
And the minute that it doesn't align with scripture is thrown out.
It is completely thrown out, erased, forgotten.
It cannot be part of our narrative of who Jesus is.
Hmm.
Yeah.
And that's why, you know, when the scripture talks about the straight and narrow, only few are going to enter.
And you know how many Christians are not going to make the cut, you know?
And I always compare this like, if you go to the beach, right?
You know, you got all the sand on the ocean there.
Just pick up a couple handfuls just two hands pick it up the sand right look at all the grains of sand in the hand Compared to the grains on the beach the grains of sand is the only ones are gonna make the cut you know I mean, it's unfortunate, but that's true and many of these are people out there that you know call themselves Christians They're not gonna make the cut you know I mean, and you know what I'm talking about is making it go into heaven because They believe in lies and traditions and all these other things over what the Bible says.
And you know some of these people on TV, right, these televangelists?
They'll sit there, they're charismatic, so they target people's emotions.
But the whole time, the whole time, when they bring up maybe one or two Bible verses, or the book of Matthew says in chapter 5, 1, 2, they'll bring up one verse, and work off that, work off that, work off that.
And that no time, like Benny Ham, he's the Draper Bible Preacher, they'll hold the Bible the whole time.
Never once open it.
Never once even talk about it.
You know what I mean?
And the Bible to them is just an illusion.
That's all it is.
And they'll bring up one verse out of the whole spiel for a while and a half you listen to their ranting.
And it's all based on emotion.
They target.
It's like psychological warfare they use.
They talk.
First of all, before they get on, they'll play a bunch of music, right?
They get everybody all swinging and enjoying and everything else like that.
Everybody's emotions are in there and they'll get the charismatic speaker to really spark you.
And then all of a sudden you just drone into them.
And the whole time, it's nothing to do with God.
They'll sit there, go on about some story about something.
Then they'll mix the little scripture in it that has nothing to do with it, you know.
And that's the psychological warfare.
I'm going to these churches over the years.
They actually studied what these people are doing and watching how they're doing it.
And I'm looking around and just seeing the trance they got everybody in.
And I'm like, wow.
You know, just wow.
You know, it's baffled.
And I'm like actually studying what they were doing, the psychological warfare, and I was like, this is insane, this is satanic as it comes, you know?
Oh, and you'd be amazed how many times it wasn't even a verse.
It was a verse they chopped in half.
It was half the verse.
I remember we once had a three-part sermon series on many are called but few are chosen.
And that's the only part of that verse that they read.
It was reinforcing that idea.
We were the chosen church.
We were chosen.
We were too special to just be called.
We were chosen to do this excising demon work.
And the music, you're absolutely right.
I remember, and it was actually confirmed by somebody that we knew later that still goes to that church.
I remember when we would do practice, like, there would be some Sundays, I have a mildly decent singing voice, so my mother, in order to look more important to the church, would force me to do, like, these special song Sundays that we did, and she would force me to, you know, sing a song in front of the church.
So when I would go and practice with the choir, The pastor's wife who was in charge of the choir, she would say at certain points, she would be like, okay, this is the point after this song and halfway through the second verse of this song, this is where you're going to stop because the Holy Spirit is going to fall.
She would say exactly when it was going to happen, so they would pause at that point, you know, when we were doing it, you know, in front of the church after practice the next day.
That's when everybody would pause and, you know, it would get quiet and they would do just like this.
This piano, this light piano playing, so that everybody knew that that was time.
That was the time we were inviting the Holy Spirit into the room.
And that's, you know, when everybody was like, it was like curtain call, stage set, everybody go to their places, this is the time to put on the show.
Not to cut you off, Bob, but when you were talking about the demons and all that, this came to my head.
So I pulled it up on the internet here when you were talking.
I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I just feel led to talk about this.
Matthew chapter 7, verse 21 through 23.
It says, Not everyone that says to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Many will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name?
Have we not cast out devils?
It sounds like those churches to me, right?
And thy name done many works, wonderful works.
And then I will profess unto them, I never knew you depart from me, ye work of iniquity.
That sounds so much like these churches today.
You know, all these people out there think they got to make the cart and everything.
And just because they cast out demons and all that, but they have no faith in them.
And that's the scariest thing for anybody to hear.
You know, thinking that you're going to heaven and Jesus told you, depart from me, I never knew you.
You know what I mean?
That's scary.
Absolutely.
And I mean, I've thought about that exact verse so much, like, they feel like they're so special and so chosen.
What happens, you know, when they have to answer for all these things that they've done to these people, that they've made their faith stray, that they've, you know, they've had prophets, quote unquote, prophets come into the church to pray over people and said things aloud that have not come prophets come into the church to pray over people and said things
And, you know, once the pastor allowed these people in without even giving them so much as a spiritual vet, like to see if they were up to up to snuff that he's now got that blood on his hands.
That's what the Bible says, that he's in charge of his flock and he allowed that person to come in.
So that's on him as much as it is on that false prophet.
And it's also on the person who didn't take enough charge of their own spirituality to let the Holy Spirit teach them and see that it was wrong and didn't leave.
There's so many people that are going to hold that.
over them when they finally see Jesus and they have to answer for that.
It scares me every day.
It's one of my constant prayers that I can somehow get some, even just one, out of this mindset that I've spent so many years in that this is who Jesus is supposed to be.
That he's emotionally manipulative and how he likes people to be smacked in the head and he likes you to lay out on the floor I don't want a single person to go to bed one more night thinking that's who Jesus is.
The one that I actually found and the reason that I kept him at that fingertip distance but I didn't completely let him go is because he was my only comfort in a very dark time of my life.
That I knew I needed him, but only enough to get through what I was going through.
We were taught he was kind of like a grab bag.
Reach in, take a little bit of him when you need him, and then keep him over there to watch you do all your spiritual stuff.
Well, you know, he's just saying it's baffling, really isn't it?
You have to think right now, right?
Today's, we're going into Saturday, the Shabbat, right?
So, like, 24 hours from now, whatever it is, that people are going to file into these churches all over the country, thousands of people, millions of people probably, are going to be misled by this stuff, you know what I mean?
And, you know, this Kundalini stuff, all the things you were talking about, and it's sad, it really is.
And, yeah, the Catholic nonsense, too.
Just like all these people think, and the thing is that I feel bad because in their hearts, they really think they're worshiping God.
They really think they're serving God.
They really think they're the chosen ones because their religion is all, we're the real religion.
We're the real church of Christ, you know?
Jesus is not a religion.
No religion represents Jesus Christ, you know what I mean?
That's tradition, you know what I mean?
And now Jesus says to stay away from it, we follow Jesus directly.
You know what I mean?
And it's so sad though, all these people are misled.
And shame on them, I'm telling you right now.
And if you're one of these pastors out there, a priest or whatever, and you're doing this, okay, shame on you because I'm going to be straight up with you.
Hellfires are coming your way for misleading these people.
You're going to suffer worse than the people you misled.
And it ticks me off to no end.
And communicating with demons.
They're literally communicating with them.
They're welcoming them.
They're not casting them out.
They're casting them in.
And that pees me off like no tomorrow, man.
I tell you that.
And that just gets my blood boiling.
Just to know that these peeps out there are misleading people every weekend.
Sickening.
Well, when I was younger, I was told that The church that I gather with, if it didn't matter, you know, my family would say, they didn't know that, they weren't saying it to be mean.
They were, you know, just to be, uh, I guess they thought they were just doing, their intentions was good.
They would just say, well, you're saved because you're going with us to church.
Like, but just little sly, little easy things like that.
They would just say, and you're like, Oh, okay.
So my mother, father, whoever goes with me, we're all saved then.
Cause I go to the same church.
They told me I was, so I guess I don't have to do anything but just go.
It's real small, little innocent kind of, but it does a lot of damage.
You know what I'm saying?
Like it comes off as like, oh yeah honey, you'll be okay, you're going with us, and you're like a little kid.
Oh okay, so I don't have to do anything but just come here every day?
Every time the door's open?
Oh absolutely.
Yeah, so there you go.
Yeah, I mean, when I was in the throes of a very deep depression in my teenagerhood, I was told, you know, I'm going to church every Sunday, so it's going to turn out fine.
God's going to heal it in His time.
Nothing else was done about it until I was That my mother was instructed that she basically had to put me in therapy after some instances, but you know before that it was like God's gonna heal it when he's ready as long as you're in the church every time the doors are open.
That's the mindset they give you, that being in that building is all that you need.
Once you're outside of that building, I couldn't tell the church people from everybody else around them.
I couldn't.
And it really bothered me that I would hear, you know, all these curse words flying out of these You know, so-called church people that I had watched excise demons that they would curse people out for in the grocery store for cutting in front of them in line or stealing the last thing off the sale rack.
And I was like, but you know, where's the love that we just talked about on Sunday?
Where's the love where you were smacking people in the head because you so desperately needed them to be healed that you would knock them out?
Like, where is that?
That's just because it's not Sunday.
It's not Sunday.
Yeah, it's not Sunday.
It's not Sunday.
Sunday day worship.
So we can do what we want throughout the week.
That's the mindset.
As long as you were in the church, when the doors were open, that's all you had to do.
I remember sunrise services that they do on Easter.
I had to go to every sunrise service no matter what.
Oh, yeah, they're extremely boring, but you know you had to be there You had to watch the Sun rise and as the Sun rise you had to all stand and start worshiping You know and now is my husband, but I'm like can you not see that you're worshiping the Sun and not God himself the SO in Jesus son you're worshiping the Sun coming up that God himself made like it seems so dumbfounding now that I ever believed that that was okay, but I never ever want to lose
You know, I'm thankful for the sympathy that I got through that, that I can understand that the people that are still in it, why they feel like it's okay.
You know, I'm...
I don't want anybody that's in that still that may be trying to come out of it to feel like you're being made to feel small in any way because I understand how easily they can put you in that place to make you feel like you're the most spiritually mature person that anybody's ever met in their life.
It took ten years for me to have the scales fall off my eyes.
It might take you five, it might take you two, but if you can get started today, you know, you're all that much closer to being with, you know, the mindset of the true Jesus, of who He is, of having a relationship with Him.
You know, to this day, you know, my family still gets angry at me because, you know, my parents have asked, you know, to take my children to church with them, you know, on Christmas or, you know, during December.
And I'm like, you know, they're not going to step foot in a place that's, you know, got a false idol right next to the altar.
Mama, I can't do it.
Like, I'm not.
I understand that, you know, you like having them there.
You like showing them off, etc.
But there's a false idol right there next to the altar and it dumbfounds her because she can't correlate that that's a false idol because it's her tradition.
It's their tradition.
We deal with the same things.
We deal with the same things here.
Yeah.
We have a lot, Trey and you, we have a lot in common when it comes to having the same problem, Sarah.
It's so hard, like, I never thought that I would... I knew that, you know, being a parent, there was going to be a lot of fights that, you know, I would have to have with my mother, you know, because I didn't want to raise them the way that she raised me, you know, look perfect, act perfect so you'll be perfect, etc.
Like, I wanted to be able to show my children a different way, but I never imagined this fight when I started having children that I would have to be That I literally felt what it was like to have to put on the full armor of God just to stand up to this woman who has been putting food in my mouth my entire life and is the reason that I'm alive.
That I would have to have this fight with her.
That no, they can't go to the Easter egg hunt.
No, they can't put presents under the tree.
You know, because this is what God says.
It's not about my belief.
I will not let my beliefs get in the way of anything anymore.
This is what the Bible says.
There's no other discussion about it.
Absolutely.
That's where we dealt with too.
I mean like when I had my son, because my soon-to-be wife, her family grew up as Catholics, you know what I mean?
And her grandmother was like, mentioned, oh, you know, you should go, you know, get baptized and all that.
And I laid the groundwork, even when she was pregnant before my son was born, I laid the groundwork straight down, the rules, I mean, and it's like, yeah, no.
I came from the Catholic Church myself, you know what I mean?
Like when I was young, it's like, no.
He's not gonna step foot in the Catholic Church, and I'm in some parts that was into the you know witchcraft and all kinds of stuff And it's like no.
I don't, when it comes to my son's spirituality, I don't care if I'm thrown on the street.
When it comes to that, I'm putting my foot down big time, you know what I mean?
I don't want anything to do, like, witchcraft around him at all, because when me and my brother went to when we were young, you know what I mean?
Because it's hereditary in our family, the generational curse on that, you know, because our great aunts were witches and stuff, but regardless, like, you know what I mean, both of us were Catholics, too, you know what I mean?
So, I, you know, laid the groundwork down, and I said, I don't care if it, you know, you gotta, you know, excuse my language, piss off my grandmother or whatever, I don't care.
It's like, I don't mean to do it, but I don't care when it comes to my son's spirituality, I'm not going to, you know, just like when I used to go, I was in so many weddings, right?
You know, wedding parties and funerals and all that, right?
And me and my brother were pallbearers for my stepfather, too.
People were looking at us, because we're not, you know, up and down, bowing and all this stuff in the Catholic churches.
And I was part of a wedding party.
It's like, well, just do it to earn respect for the people.
It's like, no.
I'd rather disrespect them than disrespect God, you know?
I'm not going to go up and down and play all these hocus-pocus things.
And the church just pleased the family, you know what I mean?
I could care less what I look in front of them, you know what I mean?
And people say, oh I thought you were a Christian.
Yeah, I'm a Biblical Christian, not, you know, Catholic Christian, you know what I mean?
And they don't know the difference between that, but, you know, that's where we need to put our foot down, you know what I mean?
I've been in so many situations like this, so has Sarah and, you know, all of us, you know what I mean, Brian and everybody, Trane, my brother here, we've all been in situations where we had to stand our ground, you know what I mean?
We stood, like me and my, when my stepfather died, it was about a year and a half ago, two years ago, me and my brother were the pallbearers.
Me and him were the only two on our own that went, Yeah, and everybody's just giving us dirty looks.
Remember that, Jason?
I'm gonna speak into the microphone now.
Yeah, what happened was they were doing the repetitious prayer and I literally heard like hundreds of demonic voices behind me.
I'm sure Danny heard it too.
It was crazy.
You know that scepter thing with the incense and all that?
Yeah.
You know how they wave it to like water, any type of spirit they don't want around?
Yes.
The priest here, he had a very pissed off look on his face and staring at Jesus on the cross and like waving it towards him like, get out of here!
Yeah, it's always weird stuff.
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, it's just like, and the thing is, like, that's where you got to put on, you got to put on the spot, man.
And, you know, all of us have been putting on the spot.
And so, basically, we're trying to tell you guys who are listening out there, you got to go through this.
I mean, you got to be part of weddings or in weddings or funerals or whatever have you or just in general, right?
And this is where the rubber meets the road.
You know what I mean?
You say, I'm just going to do this so nobody looks at me weird.
Or I'm going to do this so I don't look like a jerk in front of the family or whatever.
No.
If you have to look like a jerk, look like one.
You know what I mean?
Remember this.
It's better to look like, you know, disrespect your family.
Not that you mean to do that, but it's better to disrespect them, which is not really disrespect, but I'd rather disrespect the family than disrespect the father.
You know, plain and simple.
So that's where the rubber meets the road, where you're going to be putting... Because here's the thing.
If you bow to that right, What's going to happen when the Mark of the Beast comes?
You know, if you don't have the courage to stand up against your family.
Yeah.
If you don't have the courage to stand up against your family, not that you want to, like I'm saying, but if you don't have the courage to stand up for what you believe in, even if it's against your own family, what's going to happen when the Mark of the Beast comes?
Oh, why don't you just take everybody in the family, you know?
So, you know what I mean?
You need to, like, grow some spiritual kahunas.
That's the best way I can say it.
Sorry, guys.
But you need to grow some spiritual kahunas and really step up, you know?
During the time of the mock of the beast, when it becomes mandatory, if I get caught I'll be like, just take me to the red zone and kill me.
Yeah, the guillotines.
Exactly.
Yeah, I mean they they read that part in the Bible where you know we're supposed to be in the world but not of the world and you know how we're supposed to look different from the world and they see that as oh all this you know spiritual loudness that we're doing that's how we look different on Sundays you know that's how we look different from the world so we're doing that part but they don't realize that the part where you're supposed to look different is when
Every single person is, you know, hanging holly around their house and they're singing Christmas carols and you're over there and it's, it's, it's just Monday.
You know, or people are, you know, dressing up and, or taking their children to see the Easter Bunny and taking pictures and you completely avoid the mall during those times that the Easter Bunny's there.
Or, my children, you know, my children got made fun of a lot because they had no idea who Santa was.
Had no idea.
My oldest actually called him a snowman the first time we were in a store and there was a man dressed as Santa walking around, you know, during the month of December.
And she was like, is that a snowman, mom?
I was like, no, honey.
And there was this little boy riding past her in a cart when she said that, and he laughed at her.
And it broke my heart, you know, because I could see how much she hated that feeling.
But I was like, you know, this is where the rubber meets the road.
This is where I decide who I'm going to be for them.
This is where I decide what their childhood, what memories are going to imprint for them, what it's going to feel like to them to be different.
Isn't that like a contradiction in itself with the whole Christmas thing?
They claim it's Jesus' birthday, but...
What is it, like, maybe one or two songs about Jesus and all the rest is about stupid Santa Claus?
Yeah, exactly.
No one point out in the chat room.
I don't know from and I apologize my name my last name I don't know what you mean by this about if I'm coming off the wrong way I apologize, but it says he says on the mother of my father So I don't know what that you're referring to but basically it's not disobey in the Ten Commandments If your mother and father say, hey, I want you to study witchcraft, right?
Honor thy father and mother doesn't say to disobey the father's laws, you know what I mean?
He says to stay away from that stuff, you know what I mean?
So if your mother and father, yeah, you're supposed to honor your father and mother, that's the Fifth Commandment, absolutely.
But if your mother and father are unfortunately saying, hey, go do this false religion or whatever the case, something that contradicts what the scripture says, um, yeah, you're polite to say no.
Just say no and walk away.
But, you know, that's not disrespecting your parents.
I mean, that's not breaking the fifth commandment.
If you're doing something in the name of the Lord and your parents want you to do something in the name of Satan, you know, that's not breaking the fifth commandment.
I don't know if you're referring to that, so I apologize if I'm not.
But just in case, because I know some of you could say, oh, aren't you supposed to honor your father and mother, you know, in a smart way to say, oh, all right.
So now, you know, like the law, right?
The Roman says under the law of the land, right?
However, if that law of the land challenges your conviction, like we have the First Amendment in this country.
The First Amendment says freedom of religion, that the United States Congress can't make a law.
So basically the government says, hey, I want the churches to do this, right?
And the church says, no, I don't think so.
We're governed by God, you know what I mean?
So the First Amendment protects true religion, you know what I mean?
Protects us and our religious rights, you know?
So, that being said, a parent's job is to raise us up in the Lord.
That's the job of the parent.
That's what I do with my son, you know what I mean?
My job is to do that.
And if there's some parent out there saying, hey, I want my kids to go to these these drag queen story hours or whatever that stuff you know that parents wrong and that parents gonna pay a heavy price for that Plain simple and if you're disobeying your parent in that case You're not breaking the fifth commandment because you're honoring a father You're supposed to honor the father first and foremost and if the father and with earthly father mother is contradicting each other I'm gonna take the Heavenly Father over them.
I'm sorry.
So Amen that I it's It's hard, you know, especially, you know, I feel like I'm bad-mouthing my mother a lot.
You know, she did the best she could.
She was 16, but I mean, she did a lot wrong.
And, you know, she's still coming to terms with the stuff that she did wrong.
And, you know, she challenges me almost on the daily about how I'm raising my children, you know, what I'm doing, you know, how I'm I'm speaking to them and I'm making them feel like they have a voice because I wasn't raised to have a voice.
I was raised to submit.
I was raised to look perfect in public and not question my mother because that's how I honored my mother.
Especially growing up for the prime years of my childhood and not having a father there.
I now know it was because, you know, and I have a great relationship with my stepdad, but as far as a father figure, my father in heaven is the only one that I can picture.
You know, that he's the only one that's been in that father role for me.
I would rather every single day of the week make every single person around me mad just to honor him.
Every time no questions asked is it hard every single time?
Yes, because as many mistakes as my mom made I know that the reason that I am alive is because she worked, you know third shift jobs and She did what she could it's never going to be easy to Question these people that raised you even when you know, they're biblically wrong.
It doesn't mean you get to not do it like It doesn't mean that you get to just let them do whatever you want to your kids and raise them any such way because you feel like you're honoring them through that because you're not because you're dishonoring your father in heaven the minute that you you don't stand up for your own children.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
True or not?
Yeah, absolutely.
And I just want to add this too.
Sometimes they, you know, when you're still having, you know, we still did battle it too on this, on our, in our side of the world here, but they'll try to make you feel bad.
They'll say, well, you're not living right.
That's why so many things are, you know, you're, if something's wrong, if you have something damaged or something goes wrong or whatever it is, well, you're not living right.
You're not in church.
Like they'll make that comment.
Like it's hurtful comments and say, well, that's why you're just not, you're not doing enough.
You're not, you know, you, that's why your water heater or whatever is tore up, whatever, dishwasher, whatever, your car can't start.
You just ain't going to church enough.
Oh, I read a comment recently on, on the internet.
It was somebody made a post about the pandemic.
And they were told by their Catholic mother, they said the pandemic was God's way of telling that girl, the mom said this to her child, the pandemic was God's way of telling her daughter that she went out too much.
She was like, so I'm sorry y'all for causing a whole worldwide pandemic because I went out too much.
That's what my Catholic mother told me.
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what they really believe.
Yeah.
Yeah, they believe some whoppers, that's for sure.
I'm like, where's it say in the Bible?
You know, they'll come up with everything else.
Stuff from the Catechism.
I'm like, I don't care about the Catechism.
Don't care about any of that.
Where's it say in the Bible?
Well, the Archbishop in 1842 said, I don't care what you Archbishop, where's it say in the Bible?
They'll bring every other thing but the Bible.
And then they get ticked off when you actually call them out on that.
So if it's not in the Bible, guess what?
I don't believe it.
How's that, sir?
Well, and I you know, and I I tell everybody and you know when they have these issues I'm like you're you're confusing You're confusing who God is and what he does because people will say oh this horrible thing happened to me That means that God doesn't love me or you know, that means that you know, I must have done X Y & Z You know, and I'm like, you're confusing, you're twisting the story, because what does the Bible say?
That, who is the prince of this earth?
God gave us free will on this earth.
He's not gonna tamper with that because we have to freely come to him.
Therefore, when things go wrong in our life, it's not because God brought down his finger and was trying to smite us for every single sin we did.
It's because us and our free will are choosing to live in sin and that is causing more sin like a train wreck and the cars keep piling up in this accident because you allowed that person into your life.
God trying to come down and punish you because that's not who he's not trying to control every aspect of your life if your water heater breaks he he didn't do it because you know you were using too much hot water and he needs to save the earth from running out of hot water that's not what happened You know, He chooses to give us free will in our life, and He's not going to tamper with it to get your attention.
He gave us the Bible.
He gave us, you know, true elders who are spreading His message, and if we close our ears off to that, and we continue to let sin in our life, it's our fault, and it's our fault alone.
People will see these things happen in their life and they're like, well, I was taught that God's in control.
So if this stuff is happening, it means God hates me and I'm going to turn my back on him now.
That's why that mindset is so dangerous that God is controlling every single thing that's happening to us.
He's not.
He's in control of the end plan.
He will never not be in control of that.
But, because he gave us that free will, because he wants us to freely come to him, we have to realize that when stuff goes wrong in our life, it's us.
It is the enemy himself causing sin in our life because we didn't guard our hearts, we didn't protect our spirits, we didn't protect our home, we didn't protect our children from all of this spiritual This evil spirit side of it that we let that in that these things happened.
It wasn't God doing it to us.
It was us Absolutely, no, we can't blame any of us but ourselves and I learned how way myself man So, uh, which comes to it It's like Jesus said when when everybody loves to you know talk about well this happened and this happened But it's like that, you know, they said, you know Who sinned this man or his parents that he was born blind?
And Jesus said it was neither him nor his parents, but that the glory of God.
You know, it's just, sometimes we have to realize that... Whoops, I muted myself.
We have to realize that, you know, There's things that happen, even bad things.
God allows bad things to happen, number one, because we're boneheaded and we put ourselves in situations.
But let's say we don't, okay?
Well, you know, if we react right, that is, you know, the glory of God's gonna be manifest.
You know, Sarah and I were talking about people we know that, you know, they react negatively to the way they were brought up.
But, you know, I was blessed in a sense.
I did not come from a physically abusive home, so I can't begin to fathom that, but what I do know is that Regardless of what your background is, whether you were abused or whatever, you know, if you react positively and you put your faith and trust in God, then whatever was wrong was done to you, the full accountability of that goes to the person that wronged you.
But if you choose to react negatively and wallow in it and become this just You know, crap head of a person because of it, then you're taking part of what they did, the wrong they did to you, and you're going to take part of the blame for that.
Because your behavior is on you and on you alone.
So people need to understand it doesn't matter what hand you were dealt.
The Bible doesn't promise that we're all going to get a good hand or even that we're all going to be dealt the same hand.
You know, um, We're given the hand we're given, and it's up to us to make sure that the glory of God is manifest from it by being obedient to his word.
It's just that simple.
So, I just wanted to jump in and share that.
So, I wanted to ask you guys, do you guys want me to go ahead and share those scriptures that I have?
Yeah, go for it.
So, first thing I want to do is I want to start off in Acts chapter 2.
Because we've talked about the Kundalini, we've done all this stuff.
Now let's look at what happens when the real spirit of God drops.
And you know, we've been, it's fitting we've been talking about the Pentecostal movement because this is the scripture they base their movement off of.
But let's look and see what it says.
Acts chapter 2, starting in verse 1.
And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, so anybody who reads the front of the Bible, you know that's Shavuot.
That's the festival of weeks.
So, the day of Pentecost was fully come.
By the way, we talked about how Sabaton meant week, right?
That's another thing.
That's another reason these spirits are invited, because we're forsaking the counting of the Omer.
We're forsaking these festival of weeks, and they're being really blasphemed by being done wrong.
But it said when the day of Pentecost was fully come, They were all with one accord in one place, and suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled the house where they were sitting.
And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
And they were filled with the Holy Ghost and began to speak with other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance.
And there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men of every nation under heaven.
Now when this was voiced abroad, a multitude came together and were confounded because that every man heard them in his own language.
See, there we have that confounding again, like I was talking about.
This is a reversing of Babel.
So important to get that detail.
And they were all amazed and marveled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galileans?
And how, here we, every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born, Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judea, and in Cappadocia, and Pontus, and Asia.
Phrygia and Pamphylia in Egypt and in parts of Libya and Cyrene and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, Cretes and Arabians.
We do hear them speak in our tongues, the wonderful works of God, and they were all amazed and were in doubt.
Saying one to another.
That's very important.
We're in doubt saying one to another.
What meaneth this?
Others mocking these scoffers, these unbelievers.
These men are full of new wine.
See, people love to talk about being drunk in the spirit, and I think they base it off of this.
But you have to realize that these were scoffers.
They were making fun of them.
Yeah.
They were making fun of them.
They were mocking, mocking the power of the Holy Spirit.
And Peter, Peter standing up, With the eleven, lifted up his voice and said unto them, Ye men of Judea, and all ye that dwell in Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words, for these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
But this is that which the prophet was spoken by the prophet Joel, and it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God.
I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh, And your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall receive visions, and your old men shall dream dreams.
And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days my spirit, and they shall prophesy." This is... This is the fulfillment of that.
You know, you go back and read that passage in Joel, it's one of the places where it talks about the day of the Lord.
Where the sun will be darkened and the moon will be turned to blood, which by the way, some of that happened as a foreshadowing of God's wrath while Christ was on the cross.
Because he took on the wrath of God for those who believe, and this was those who believe in Christ, they then got this.
So this is what happens when the true spirit of God falls.
These men are not drunken, as you suppose is what Peter said.
So this throws out that Toronto blessing.
That whole movement is just in the garbage.
Now, as far as when we talk about how to combat the Kundalini, 2 Kings chapter 18, we're gonna start in verse 1.
In the third year of Hosea, son of Elah, king of Israel, that Hezekiah, the son of Ahaz, king of Judah, began to reign.
Twenty and five years old was he when he began to reign, and he reigned fifty and nine years in Jerusalem.
His mother's name was Abi, the daughter of Zechariah, and he did that which was right in the sight of the Lord, according to all that David his father did.
Verse 4, pay attention here, this is important.
He removed the high places and break the images and cut down the groves and he break in pieces the brazen serpent that Moses had made for unto those days the children of Israel did burn infants to it and called it Nahush time.
They took this time that was supposed to point to God.
And our healing, our victory in the cross of Jesus Christ, and they started worshiping it and burning incense to it and he tore it down.
When you take something that was a gift of God and you profane it, it is the duty of the righteous remnant to tear it down.
Doesn't matter if it started off as a good thing.
You hear that all the time.
Well, we've got to take in the Catholic churches, our brothers, because they started off as a good church.
Yeah, the Church of Rome started off great when, you know, um, when Clement running it.
But then you get to Sig, by the time you get to Constantine and Sixtus III, it went to hell in a handbracket.
We throw that out, that's garbage.
They have forsaken the Lord their God.
They are not part of the remnant.
You know, if you've been watching the DOC series with David and Jimmy, they've been talking about the headship of Christ.
And when you have Christ as your head, anything that did not come from God, you have nothing to do with it.
You throw it out.
It is garbage.
It is refuse.
And it will be garbage one day when it is thrown into Gehenna, the place where garbage is burnt.
Hmm.
So that's how we do this.
That's how we stop this Kundalini.
We tear it down.
And that's what we're doing here today, and hopefully we're equipping each and every one of you guys in the chat, and that may be watching this live or later on demand.
Hopefully we can equip you with this information.
Now that's why we had to go through so much of what it is and set up the testimonial, because we can read you the scriptures, but if you're not properly educated in what this stuff is, well, quite frankly, when it comes to spiritual warfare, number one thing with warfare is you can use your weapons, right?
But it does no good to swing a sword blindly.
You have to have a target.
That's what we're giving you.
We're giving you a target.
I've seen on YouTube the newest thing that's being watched now is The Shroud of Turin.
Yeah.
Yeah, and see, I don't think that's a mistake.
There's so many... So, for people who don't know, Lawrence Gardner actually wrote a science fiction story about bringing something to life from the Shroud of Turin.
So, they're setting this up.
This is from the playbook of the enemy.
That does not surprise me at all.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Yeah man.
Crazy stuff everybody.
Yeah.
What a show this was man.
Yeah.
I'm so glad Sarah got to finally come on.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah it is.
It's been a blessing.
It's a pleasure having you on here.
Can we call her a Sarah girl?
Yeah.
Bless Sarah though.
God bless her.
I've never got to meet her so it's a blessing.
I'm glad that you all both came on here.
Yeah that's awesome.
Yeah.
Yeah, I was so glad to be able to share some of my story.
I hope it helps somebody and they can start to open their eyes a little bit.
And if anybody needs, you know, any more guidance out of that, you know, my inbox is always open.
My email is always open.
You know, feel free to reach out and I can help you the best way I know how come out of all of this deception.
And Trey and Sarah's channel, guys, is right in the description there, right toward the bottom.
So it's easy to find him and also Brian's channel, too, Visual Disturbance.
So Course Correction Radio, it's Brian and Sarah there.
So check out that stuff, awesome stuff.
And he's always got something going on there, like, you know, educational videos and other stuff.
That's why we always have Trey on, man.
I love Trey.
You know, he's like a brother.
You know, and Trey's awesome.
So we always try to have him at least once a month, man.
I'm glad to have you on the show.
Sorry, you gotta come out more often, too.
Yeah.
Yeah, some good stuff.
And the other way to combat the... I mean, if you run into one of these people, man, don't let them touch you.
And right away, I don't care if it's a pastor, I don't care if it's Benny himself, look him dead in the eye and rebuke him with full conviction.
Rebuke him in the name of Jesus.
And I don't care if there's a thousand people in that church, right?
Don't worry about the people.
Concentrate on him.
Look him dead in the face and rebuke him in the name of Jesus with conviction.
And watch how fast that Kundalini just drops out of that guy or something, you know what I mean?
And it'll be great.
Imagine that on national TV, right?
Somebody just jumping up on stage and, like, look at, you know, Benny Hanlon rebuking him, and he drops, you know what I mean?
And, you know, that'd be so awesome.
But, I mean, that's what you need to do.
You need to be bold and fearless and courageous.
Rebuke them in the name of Jesus Christ.
And that Kundalini is powerless against you.
Well, I remember one time in the last church we were in before we stopped going.
Right there at the end, our oldest daughter was kind of in quarantine so that she didn't get sick before she had her tonsils removed.
So Trey and I were switching off which Sundays we would go to church.
So he wasn't there one Sunday that I was, and I remember that the pastor was on this roll and he said, he eventually blurted out, he said, The law has been abolished, guys.
And I said out loud, without being able to control myself, I said, ooh, that's not biblical.
And every eye in the church looked at me like I had just, you know, grown a second head.
It was... I didn't even... I couldn't control the words coming out of my mouth.
I was like that... Because it literally contradicted exactly what the Bible said.
So...
That, um, that scripture in the Bible, I'm not a book chapter verse girl, I don't remember where it is, honey.
Remember when it says that when they, you know, they question you and don't think on what you're gonna say because the Holy Spirit will give you the words?
That is Mark chapter 13.
So, people have all of the courage and the faith in that right there because you're not going to be able to prepare yourself for it if you're living correctly and you know when something is wrong and you simply look up to know that it is wrong and try to acknowledge it.
The Holy Spirit will fill your mouth because that's what happened to me in that moment.
I said it out loud and proud and I'm not that, you know, I'm not that Loud and proud girl!
You know, I don't like to question authority.
Well, I do now, you know, but I didn't then and it just came to me.
I opened my mouth and I let the Holy Spirit flow because I knew something was wrong.
You know, that the pastor was saying something wrong to his congregation and the words were there.
It was so simple, but it was so powerful, and you know, we found out later that right after we left, because, you know, we left about two Sundays after that happened, that a bunch of the congregation left at the same time we did.
So, you know, if that's what it takes, if that's what it takes to change somebody's course, to put them on a path closer to that straight and narrow, is you simply being obedient to the Holy Spirit and being willing to say the word when you see something wrong.
If there's one person or if there's a thousand people in the room, if you're just willing and you let the Holy Spirit use you and fill your mouth, then you will say exactly what those people need to hear.
Don't plan it, don't try to write a script, because that's what His Word tells us, that the Holy Spirit in that time, as long as we're wearing the armor of God and we're walking that straight and narrow, He will give us the words.
And they'll come out before you can even control them.
That's right, yeah.
I should have known that too, because I just did a study on Mark 13.
But when they shall lead you and deliver you up, take no thought before what you will speak, neither do premeditate.
So I also just want to clarify real quick that that pastor that she's talking about.
That speaks the Holy Ghost So basically Don't When you confront these people Don't You know Say Before you do it Don't say I'm going to say this I'm going to say that Just Go with your heart You know The Holy Spirit I mean Not the heart Go with your Holy Spirit And you'll never go wrong Plain and simple And The Holy Spirit Absolutely So I also just want to clarify Real quick That that pastor That she's talking about Yep Had No radio silence For Four Four years Um
Um, and the company I work with now, he is one of our pest control and termite customers.
And I've showed up at his house.
Wow.
About a month or two ago.
And I'm telling you, there's still a lot to go, but y'all pray for this guy.
Cause God is working on him.
He just, you know, we got to talking.
He was like, yeah.
He said, we're getting away from the secret friendly movement.
I've told my dad who his dad is like the one that founded this church.
He's like the highest up executive in it.
It's like I told my dad, I'm tired of using these modern Bibles.
He said, they're no good.
He said, I want to get to the King James.
He said, I just don't think the people are ready.
But y'all pray for him because he's still as stubborn as a mule when it comes to things like Christmas and things like that.
We had some back and forth about that.
We talked for two and a half hours.
I didn't even get his service done.
But y'all pray for him because I can see it.
God's working on him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I really like, I can't stress it enough.
Like this is somebody I thought I'd never talk to again.
It's not by accident that I showed up at his house.
Yeah.
You know, so let's, let's pray for this man.
Cause he is, he's, he's a nice guy.
He really is.
He'd give you the shirt off his back, but there's a lot of indoctrination there.
So.
And I want to say that.
And I want to emphasize this one more time.
And this verse here, Matthew 12, 31, 32, cause now understand knowing all this now, now, okay, this will hit you hard.
This is a smack of reality right here.
Where I say unto you, and this is Jesus speaking, right?
All men of sin and blasphemy shall I forgive unto men, right?
But the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven of him.
But whoever speaks against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world nor in the world to come.
So, there's two things you learned in the Bible, okay?
I don't care how much of a believer you are.
You blaspheme the Holy Spirit, you're not getting into heaven.
And you take the mark of the beast, you're not getting into heaven.
There's two unforgivable sins in the scriptures, right there.
And that's the biggest one, blaspheme the Holy Spirit.
You know what I mean?
You might as well just stick a fork in yourself.
It gives yourself goodbye.
You know what I mean?
So that being said, now, if you didn't know this, guys, and I don't know, but I mean, I'm trying to say this.
Basically, if you didn't know this and you were blaspheming the Holy Spirit unwillingly, I'm sure God would forget it because you wasn't conscious of it.
You know what I mean?
But I think this is more of a, if you're willingly, I don't know.
I mean, either way, I would repent.
You know what I mean?
And hope to God that, you know, that you can be forgiven, but what I'm trying to say is, guys, if you went after these folks, um, Holy Spirits, you know what I mean?
Either in the Kabbalah stuff or, uh, you know, the...
You thinkin' the Kundalini is the Holy Spirit or whatever the case?
I would repent right away.
And, um, hopefully, you know, you could be forgiven, but, um, I don't, I mean... Yeah, you know, you're playin' with fire, is what I'm tryin' to say.
You know, you're playin' with hellfire.
Plain and simple, you're playin' with hellfire by blasphemin' the Holy Spirit.
And, yeah, that's an awesome show, man.
So, hey, Trey, you and Sour, do you guys mind sayin' a prayer for us?
Anybody in the chatroom knowin' it?
Yeah, yeah, sure.
All right, um, well, let's pray, guys.
Father, we just, we come before you now as we are closing out our, our preparation day, and we're getting ready for your marvelous Sabbath tomorrow, Father, and we just, we just ask that this
This topic that we have talked about, this topic that we've exposed, we've reproved, we've corrected, Father, we just pray that this has equipped your remnant with the ability they need to be a light to the nations as you have made us, Father.
Not that we are that light, but that Jesus is that light of the world, and we are his light bearers.
And we just ask that you put your blessing on this program tonight, Father.
We just ask that the right people hear it at the exact right times, and that your Holy Spirit, your true Holy Spirit, that was given on the day of Pentecost in the book of Acts, Spirit that Jesus imparted to the apostles, Father, we ask that that spirit will fall exactly where it needs to, on the people it needs to, right when it needs to, Father, because your timing is perfect.
Father, we just ask that we don't just talk about your word, but we will be about your word.
We will live your word.
We will proclaim your word with boldness, not only in our speech, but in our actions.
Because we want people to see the true light of the true Messiah, each and every one of us.
And we pray this in the name of our High Priest, of our Savior, of our King, our Lord Jesus Christ.
Amen.
Awesome stuff man, and uh, Sarah, thank you so much, and Trey, thank you as always.
Awesome stuff.
Guys, please go follow Trey.
His channel is right in the description there.
And actually, I'll put it in the chat room there too for you.
So, and also subscribe to Brian's channel as well.
So, good stuff man.
So, any closing words Brian?
I mean, I'm Brian.
Trey, anything you got going on in your channel?
Uh, I don't have any.
Do you, my love?
No.
I mean, I think what's been said, well, what needed to be said has been said.
It was good to finally talk to you in person.
Yeah, you too, you too.
It was nice to talk to you.
I'm glad I got to meet everybody.
He talks about y'all all the time and I'm always asleep.
Hey, you work hard.
You're a strong woman to keep a strong man going.
God bless both of you guys.
Thank y'all so much for the work you're doing and thank you for giving me a place to share my story.
I'm just so excited to see where this fellowship goes next and all the people that can be reached and touched through God's true word and the Holy Spirit doing real work.
Absolutely, man All right that being said guys, so hang on a second guys.
Let me close out here So guys, we're gonna PayPal them on the cash app and also that link in the chat room, too If you want to help us support this operation and also our ministry here and the best thing you can do is pray for us That's the number one and so guys check out Brian's channel visual disturbance and also change channel.
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So yeah, thank you all for tuning in.
Thank you Harold.
In the chat room, Harold McCain, thank you for, like, what was it going on, three hours?
Well, three hours and 46 minutes and constantly posting the Bible verses.
Thank you so much.
And Valerie and Uncle Obvious, thank you guys for moderating the chat.
And everybody else, Bill and Yan, and we're sorry we didn't take phone calls tonight.
It's been a long night.
So Jason and all these people in the chat room, and my brother Jason here, thank you for coming here.
It's been fun.
Time just blew by.
Yeah.
It was great to talk to Brian again.
Yeah, you too Jason.
It's a pleasure my friend.
We all got to take a trip down to North Carolina and Kentucky.
All right guys, so this is Dan Bodondi for TruthRadioShow.com in Special Warfare Friday.
We'll see you hopefully right around on Monday maybe, whatever.
But other than that guys, just have a good Shabbat.