SFC Jeremy "CJ" Weeks recounts a 2015 Colorado encounter with a massive disc emitting radiation, followed by cryptic binary messages decoded as warnings from Orion and Zeta Reticuli. He details abductions involving tall grays, a pulsating metal anomaly in his hip, and telepathic interactions with Middle Eastern women. The messages demand the exposure of secret projects like Majestic 12 to prevent an alien takeover, urging humanity's evolution while cautioning against studying dark energy prematurely. Ultimately, Weeks reveals his identity to transition from defense contracting to transparency, asserting that these entities are guiding his evolution to prepare him for a future planetary defense role. [Automatically generated summary]
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The Green Orb Encounter00:03:52
In June 2015, Sergeant First Class Jeremy Weeks, a 20 year veteran of the United States Army who worked in field artillery radar, was driving with his wife and two children along a desolate stretch of highway on their way to their new home in Colorado Springs.
As they entered a dense wall of mist, the radio began to cut out and the truck started to experience violent electrical surges.
Then, directly above their vehicle, a massive disc spanning the size of several football fields descended silently out of the fog and hovered momentarily.
Before it shot off at an unimaginable speed.
Shaken, the family pulled into a nearby rest stop, and that's where they realized that something was wrong, because they were missing nearly three hours of time.
The following night, Jeremy awoke not in his bed, but standing in the motel bathroom, a pen clenched in one hand, the motel receipt in the other.
On the back of that receipt was a strange series of squares and lines, something he had no memory of drawing.
The symbols didn't stop there.
More appeared over the following days, weeks, and months.
It wasn't until the material was examined by researcher Linda Moulton Howe and later handed to scientist and geneticist Dr. Horace Drew for analysis that the full implications became clear.
What Jeremy was producing appeared to be a novel way of visualizing a binary system, a multiplex code that allows for layered information to be hidden within a simple format.
But that wasn't the most disturbing part.
You see, the messages also appeared.
Appeared to be a warning.
And according to the translation, they were heralding an incoming alien invasion.
Jeremy first appeared with a disguised voice in an interview with Linda on the Gaia YouTube channel nearly eight years ago.
And today, for the first time, he is revealing his identity publicly and sharing the next phase of his ongoing communication with the beings known only as the Council.
Strap yourselves in.
I would highly advise that you suspend your disbelief for the following few hours and hear out what Jeremy. Has to say.
Now, at the end of this, if you choose not to believe or believe, that's entirely up to you.
And honestly, I don't think belief plays a major part in this at all.
I think gather the information and the data that's going to be provided for you, shelf it, catalog it, and then eventually hold it up to the light and see what other connections we can make using that information.
The story is I was sitting in an electric utilities parking lot in the middle of nowhere, San Luis Valley, Colorado.
I hear the strangest, most guttural noise.
It sounded like a donkey had its neck slit by a laser or something.
And I was freaking out.
All of a sudden, a truck comes down the road.
He pulls, I wave at him.
I have all my camera equipment out so he sees what I'm doing, but he was effectively, you know, accusing me of this or about to be.
And so he raced off right over to where I heard it happen.
He had a house, as I would come to find out, because I visited him two years later, because it took up courage to actually go and just visit this random house and ask this dude about if one of his animals was.
Mutilated.
I confirmed with this rancher that what happened that night is his mare horse was mutilated.
Classic, no blood, took out the tongue, a couple other strange parts.
One hell of a memorable experience.
It happened a little bit after I saw a green orb, too.
All right, folks.
We got somebody very special here.
Somebody I'm excited to talk to.
Retired Sergeant Weeks Joins Us00:04:39
This is retired Army Sergeant First Class Jeremy Weeks.
Jeremy, you've got a really interesting background and story, which we're going to get into today.
First of all, I want to thank you for coming here.
So, thank you.
Thank you for having me.
Yeah, absolutely.
Jeremy, it's going to be this to some people watching and listening, you might be familiar to them, but to maybe most of the audience, obviously, they're not going to be familiar with you.
But You had an incident happen to you and your family in 2015, late June 2015, I believe.
June 29th.
Yeah.
And that kind of changed your whole course of your life.
And subsequently, this was investigated by Linda Moulton Howe, among many others.
And eventually, you gave an interview under the pseudonym CJ.
Yes.
Sorry, first class CJ.
Yes.
That's right.
And so today, This is you basically coming out to the world saying that was you.
Yes, yes.
Okay, so let's start a little bit further back.
I do want to introduce you to the audience and I want to bring them up to speed a little bit on sort of your trajectory now.
You were in the Army from 2001 to 2021, served 20 years in the Army.
So you were still serving when this happened?
Correct, yes.
Okay.
Can you tell us a little bit about your background history and what you were in the Army for?
We start there.
Yeah, absolutely.
My job in the military was field artillery radar.
I chose this job because it just seemed like it was a challenge for me.
And I wanted to do something more or less like a challenge, but I also wanted to be outdoors.
So I did want to do infantry.
That wasn't my job.
I wanted to be out there doing something and creating an environment around me that was challenging.
And so I chose field artillery radar because essentially we're like forward observers.
We're out there alone by ourselves and trying to track enemy targets, you know, that sort of thing.
It was exciting.
And I stayed with that career.
I stayed with that job my entire career.
I never changed it.
I stayed field artillery radar from the moment I joined to the moment I retired.
So, field artillery radar, that's basically signals.
You're working with radar all the time.
You're tracking all sorts of stuff, and then you're relaying that back to your superiors.
And you're doing this all over the world.
Right, correct.
You've traveled to many locations.
You want to name a few of the places that you've been and that you served South Korea, Poland, Germany, Iraq, lots of different locations across the United States.
Yep.
Quite a few areas.
Yeah, well, I mean, might as well just address it.
Post military, you also went into defense contracting.
Right, right.
For, do you want to say who for?
I mean, that's.
I was a defense contractor with a company that picks up a lot of field engineer type stuff.
And so I worked with a very well known defense contractor that required me to travel across the United States, work on radar systems, and working in Iraq for a while.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you don't want to name who that contractor was?
It's up to you.
I mean, it's probably out there.
So, yeah, I was with JBM, which was a subcontractor for Lockheed Martin.
Lockheed Martin.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, quite a substantial career, obviously being in war zones, being deployed during Iraq and had probably some, I mean, Interesting run ins over there and throughout your career, but nothing like what happened to you in 2015.
Right.
Can you tell us where you were going?
Now, I have this information here, but I just want you to kind of run through the story if that's possible.
Absolutely.
Suspicious Aircraft Approach00:15:18
Going from A to Z, where you were going, what road, what time this happened, all the details you can just so we can start there.
Absolutely.
So, within my job field, there's been several incidents that I just Can't talk about.
You've always wanted to, and you think about it in the back of your mind.
Man, I wish I could tell people about this, but you can't.
So a lot of things have been quiet, silenced for me.
Are you referring to prior military?
You're referring to prior military and you're referring to like anomalous activity?
Correct.
Okay.
Anomalous activities and non disclosure statements, and you can't discuss it until those non disclosure statements expire.
So, yes, I can't go into details with those, but just experiencing them over and over and over again and not being able to talk about them just drives you kind of crazy after a while.
But so June 29th, 2015, I was on leave and my wife, my kids, Family had packed up and we were moving from Georgia to Colorado Springs, Colorado.
So we packed up.
We chose to drive at night to avoid a lot of the traffic because I had a large cargo trailer I was pulling behind my truck.
And it was easier on the animals and the kids traveling at night because they're going to sleep.
They're not going to drive you crazy.
And so it just makes it a little bit more comfortable ride for my wife and I.
And so we left.
If I were to remember correctly, around 8 p.m., and I set GPS, brand new GPS, I made sure everything was working.
And we planned our route.
And so our route was to Atlanta, and we were planning on stopping just after getting through Atlanta and the chaotic traffic.
In route, at some point along the highway, GPS rerouted us north on, I believe it was Interstate 6 or Highway 6 or.
I'm trying to remember the.
It was almost like I didn't notice that I had veered off of the highway onto another highway.
Yeah.
I mean, I did essentially, but I thought it was part of the planned route because the GPS was taking us there.
So we pull off and start traveling down this other highway.
And we started noticing a lot of dense fog and a lot of surges within the power system of the truck, such as like my dash lights started to dim, my headlights were dimming.
Our radio signal lost all radio signals.
So we moved it to XM, like a satellite radio, and we were listening to it for a short while before it lost all kinds of signal.
We couldn't get any signal on XM satellite.
We couldn't get any signal on the radio.
So we ended up turning it off, just shutting it off.
It was, we're what Heck, why can't we get any signal?
So, it there was a lot of confusion going on in the cab of the truck at the time, yeah.
As we're traveling, that uh, uh, would sometimes our head my headlights would just get really bright, like almost I like I surged or something, like I put on my brights or something, and and I didn't.
I checked, and my brights even got even brighter when I when I flashed them.
I was like, no, it's not, it's not me, it's not.
So, she's asking me, like, what are you doing?
Why are all the lights dimming, and what's what's going on?
And I was like, I have no idea, maybe there's some sort of I got some sort of electrical disturbance in the engine compartment.
Maybe something shifted or vibrated and touched and is messing up with my electrical system.
I told her we might have to stop and I have to lift the hood and see what's going on here later.
But we continued down the road, kept running into the fog and things.
This fog, how far was visibility with this fog?
Was it really dense or was it just kind of like a mist?
Some of it was pretty dense where I could only see about 20, 30 feet in front of the truck.
So I had to slow down.
Wow.
Going through it.
And then it would like lighten up and I could see further and I'd speed up again.
Okay.
So this was going on for a little while.
This is that moment my wife looked up and saw a bright light coming toward us.
And she pointed it out and was like, What the heck is that?
That's pretty bright.
And I looked over and I was like, Oh, it's probably an airplane or something, you know?
And I just kept on driving and I kept glancing over.
She's watching it.
I'm driving.
So I have to keep this big cargo trailer in the truck and Animals and everything.
I'm focused on my task, and my task is, you know, keep us safe.
And so I'm focusing on the task, but I'm also glancing up at this object that's off to my left coming toward us.
And then I noticed the lights were getting a lot brighter and was kind of lighting up the area coming toward us.
And then I realized this may be an emergency or some sort of aircraft that looks like it's about to try to land or crash onto the highway.
I need to.
I need to pull over.
So I started pulling over and hitting the brakes, slowing down as it's coming toward us.
And I'm like, what in the world?
I mean, so at this point, it's so bright, you can't identify anything.
I did not see wings, wing strobes.
I did not see the red and green indicators for the left and right for the aircraft.
So as an observer, you're able to distinguish those things.
I mean, I've been observing these things, you know, aircraft and all types of things.
Objects that are high velocity and traveling through the skies.
I'm a training observer.
Yeah.
Very well trained observer.
And so I'm looking for these things, but I'm also concerned because if this is an aircraft under an emergency, needing to make an emergency landing, I don't want to be in its path.
And I don't want to collide with it.
So I pulled over.
I eventually stopped on the side of the highway, on the side of the highway of the right side.
And I came to a stop through in a park.
And we just sat there for a moment as it was coming in, and then it slowed down.
It slowed down, and it was no longer in the position where it was going to collide or land on the highway.
It leveled off, and then it turned slightly going directly east.
And then it just slowly moved right over the truck.
Truck.
How far from the truck do you estimate it was?
Like at its closest distance?
You have to give me a second as I'm thinking about it.
Sure.
But I believe not more than maybe 50 yards from the truck.
50 yards.
Okay.
Maybe a little closer.
I mean, could have been 25, but it was just over the truck.
Yeah, clearly.
And how big roughly?
About 250 meters, 250 feet.
250 feet.
Still massive.
I would say close.
You have to forgive me in my meters and my feet, kilometers and miles.
Yeah.
As military, we use a lot of different references.
But I would say about closer to two football fields in length.
That's.
And in length and in height, roughly 60 to 80, 60 to 80 feet in height.
No small ship.
No, it wasn't small.
As it got so close, and I'm able to determine some.
Etching on the bottom, but technically it wasn't etching.
It was just more symbology, symbols along the bottom.
And I'm just looking at the symbology, the symbols on it, and trying to identify it as what type of aircraft, because I didn't know this was some sort of blimp or some sort of weather blimp or whatnot.
But this, as it got closer and as it had leveled off and come over slowly, I soon realized this is not.
Anything I recognize.
And I'm a little bit familiar with many different types of aircraft.
Yeah.
Different types of aircraft that most civilians don't recognize or understand.
So, aircrafts that are not public, we'll say.
We could say, like, some classified aircrafts.
And we won't go into that.
Sure.
But, you know, I'm familiar with a lot of different things.
It's not that, is what you're saying.
It's not that.
It is definitely not that.
And that's what was throwing me off the symbology underneath it.
didn't compute with my brain with what this was because this is not, this didn't seem like a symbology that we use, you know?
And I didn't recognize it.
And the odd thing is the light it was projecting was not attached.
This was not attached to this object, to this aerial phenomenon.
This UAP was projecting light that wasn't attached to it.
It was off.
I want to say, you know, four to five feet away from.
This, this, the, the physical craft, the physical, uh, um, body of it.
Yeah.
The physical vehicle.
It was detached and projecting light.
And then in the, on the backside, it was, it was, uh, would occasionally, it wouldn't spark at all.
But then occasionally as it was moving, it would just throw sparks like a static discharge off of the back end of it.
Well.
And I don't know if that was propulsion.
I don't know if that was, uh, It was interfering with the environment, such as cloud or moisture in the air that was causing some of that discharge.
It was just throwing me off that it wasn't attached as well.
It was off of the object itself, off of the vehicle itself.
And it had the, when you're looking at the vehicle itself, it, it, it projected, it was like this, this field all around it that was like an oil slick on water, you know, like a swirling, the pinks and the purples, roiling, right?
And it was, it was like, it was like some sort of plasma field that was just kind of swirling all around it, all over.
You could tell it was like a silverish in color.
So, you could tell it was a physical object.
You could tell it was a physical object.
But it had like an outer layer that was dynamic.
Right, right.
To me, it looked like it had some sort of field around it, some sort of protective field, or, you know, I couldn't tell you exactly.
What color exactly was just like shimmering, multiple colors?
Multiple different colors.
Wow.
And it didn't happen all over it all at once.
It had spots where you can see the silver of the vehicle itself.
So, I knew it was like a metallic, metallic, silverish aluminum type material.
And you could tell it was consistent with the aluminum.
No rivets.
I did not see any seams.
It was dull.
I would say dull, yes.
It didn't shine.
You couldn't see your reflection kind of thing.
It was just a silver, like an aluminum.
Like an oblong object, too.
It was just like a football shaped.
Almost.
Yeah.
Yeah, it had.
I couldn't describe it.
Sure.
Precisely.
The way that the shape it was was similar to a football at one particular view of it.
Yeah.
And it had moved in.
We saw that it was round.
When it was coming down, we could tell it was round.
And when it was leaving, you could tell it was round.
But a lot of our perspective was from the side.
Football shape.
Right.
You know, until it got overhead and then you could tell it was oval.
Circular.
Yeah.
Right.
And, uh, That's where I could see some of the symbology underneath on the underneath side.
What would you compare those symbols to if you had to compare them today?
Because there's a lot of symbols out there that have been witnessed by many experiencers.
What would you compare it to?
I would compare them to most recently the Sophia.
There's a sphere that was, I believe, in Mexico.
The Bugosphere?
The Bugosphere.
Some of the symbology.
Was very, very similar to what I was seeing on the underneath side of this.
But at that time, that didn't exist.
So I just did the best I could to represent the symbology that I had seen.
And to me, I pictured it as only lasting a few minutes of viewing this.
Yeah.
And so for me, I was just trying to identify.
I did everything I could to try to identify it.
Yeah.
And with to no avail.
This is nothing that we have.
This is nothing that exists.
What color was the light that was being emitted?
It was a bright white.
I mean, I couldn't.
Bright white.
It had literally no color to it whatsoever.
Blinding bright white.
Just as white as white can get.
Okay.
So.
This is overhead.
You're seeing these anomalous symbols.
You're seeing this weird skin on the craft be dynamic and roiling.
And plus, the car is messing up.
You got kids in the back.
What's your general gestalt here?
What's your general vibe of the situation?
Are you scared?
Are you curious?
Are you like, what's going on?
I'm not scared.
I'm more defensive.
I'm in defense mode because as it was coming down, I thought it was going to collide with the road or collide with us.
Or make an emergency landing, and I didn't want to be in its path when it.
And so I was in defense mode.
And I generally stayed in defense mode during the entire encounter because I couldn't recognize it.
If you can't recognize something, you don't know what something's capable of.
And so I just immediately stayed in defense mode.
And so I was also observing as much as humanly possible that I could view from it.
So I'm leaning forward and looking up through my windshield.
I had my window down trying to listen for sound.
I was listening and all I heard was a humming, and I can't describe the humming.
Defense Mode Activated00:15:05
It was just a mild humming.
It was like a pulsating humming that I think you described.
Yeah.
It was a pulsating humming.
And so it had some rhythm to it.
So there was some sort of mechanics or engineering involved in it.
But what type of engineering?
Nothing I can identify with anything that we have other than some sort of maybe something electrical.
Sound like a generator or something, some type of large.
No, it did.
Lower hum?
It was like a humming, like applying power to a capacitor or whatnot.
Something that produces just a low humming sound.
Excuse me.
It was, I would say, not loud and deafening, just very subtle and quiet.
I mean, you wouldn't be able to hear it a few hundred feet away unless you're right under it.
Then you would hear the humming.
I mean, so.
You do you also experience was this now or later?
I might be mistaken, but some type of static like charge.
Yes, yes.
Inside the vehicle, we noticed that, as you can see, I don't have much hair.
I never did in the military.
I always kept the sides short and maybe the top of my head just a little bit longer.
But we noticed that our hair was sticking straight up on our arms.
And both you and your wife, both the kids are asleep at this point.
The kids are asleep.
My, uh, My oldest that was back there, he was kind of waking up a little bit and he was like, What's going on?
What are y'all talking about?
And he just kind of went back to sleep.
I mean, I'm sure he's seen something, but he was exhausted and just fell back to sleep.
Sure.
So My youngest was just out, you know, he was just out cold.
Um, and so, but your wife was we're we're we're we're kind of at the moment, you know, to say the least, taken back a little bit, you know, saying some things to each other, like what in the F is this, you know, we're we're yeah, hair standing up, both freaking out a little bit right now, you know, not really freaking out.
I'm just more or less like trying to calm her down.
Okay, she's freaking out, she's freaking out a little bit.
Yeah, this is this is kind of wild, you know, my hair's stinking up and so is mine.
Yeah, and then.
Shortly after, it just moves up to the northeast and starts headed northeast.
And we watch it like raising altitude, roughly, you know, not super fast, but just kind of gradual.
And then it gets up to the northeast and then it rotates and moves where it's facing east, more directly east, but in a, you know, raising itself at altitude.
And it just zip, this is just gone.
Just gone.
Right through the clouds.
Just like it, like I punched a hole in the clouds, like no sound.
Just gone.
It was like a moment where you're looking at it and it becomes like a blur streak gone.
Wow.
Just faster than your eyes can keep up with.
It just whipped out right through the clouds and was gone.
And at that point where I was like, okay, that just happened.
And I'm not in a uniform and I'm not in another country and I'm not out in the training field.
I'm not out with my soldiers.
This is happening.
Right here, while I'm on vacation, essentially.
Yeah.
I need to remember all of this and write this down times, everything.
I've saved receipts because during my trip, my responsibility is to save all my receipts so that I can claim it when I get to my next duty station and get reimbursed for some of my expenses.
So I thought that worked out perfect because now I have a ledger of every place that I'd stopped, the times that I stopped.
And where we stopped, you know, that was perfect.
So I was saving everything anyway.
So that was awesome for me.
However, once we cranked the truck back up and started driving up the road, I believe we got up about, you know, five to seven miles guesstimation here.
And I saw a semi truck on the side of the road and something that kind of looks like a Volvo wagon, four door that was parked in front of the semi truck.
And they were walking back to their vehicles, chatting like they had seen something too.
And I was like, wow, okay, awesome.
So we weren't the only ones.
So, yes, I can't wait to see what they saw, what they encountered.
I mean, this was directly over our truck.
So, we're not crazy.
They saw something too.
And so that just kind of helped us confirm, comprehend things a little bit better, you know, that we're not crazy, which I knew we weren't crazy because we were both talking to each other about it, you know?
So, we get a little further up the road and we stopped at a gas station and, uh, I immediately, when I got out of the truck, I felt like, like I had been in the truck for, for days and not moving.
You know what I mean?
Like cramped legs, cramped up.
It was weird.
It was like I was maybe floating underwater or in a submersible of zero gravity.
And now that I'm getting out of the truck, it's like gravity hit me again.
Like sea legs almost.
Like, oh my word.
Why am I feeling so.
Just weak?
Weak, yeah.
Like totally worn out, weak, exhausted.
And we had just started our trip.
There's no way.
That my body couldn't handle that.
You know what I mean?
That was, that was, you know, it should have only been in like an hour or so.
But it's what it felt like anyway for me driving.
So that's not normal for me.
I'm always moving.
I mean, anyone who's ever been in the U.S. Army or military, you move around quite a bit, you know, most of the time.
Especially, you know, when you get up and you're a senior noncommissioned officer or senior officer, you move to different duty stations, you do different assignments.
It's part of what we do, you know?
So, This was odd for me that I felt so lethargic getting out of the vehicle and feeling like my legs were struggling to support my weight, kind of thing.
Because I'm not a heavy dude.
I'm a, you know, I'm pretty slim.
I'm pretty fit.
I'm old, but, you know, it is what it is.
Getting out of the vehicle and not feeling that, and feeling that was odd.
And she mentioned the same thing.
She felt like she felt like she'd been in the truck forever, you know, and we had just started.
So it was an odd feeling, but we kind of brushed it off.
Continued in and grabbed something to drink.
And so she had felt this way too.
Like, at what point did you notice that?
Was it like you came out of the car and right away you're like, what's going on?
Did she also feel that?
And you guys kind of like agreed on that?
What was that like?
No, I was feeling it and just kind of like trying to figure it out and walk it off.
She had walked around to the front of the vehicle and she's like, she was the first to make the comment as I was thinking about it.
About to say it, and she's like, My look, I feel like I feel like we've been in the truck for hours.
I'm my legs are weird or shaky.
I need to get something to eat.
And I was like, I know I'm feeling the same thing.
That's what I'm trying to figure out right now.
It was like we've been in the truck for several hours or something, and I'm just cramped up or something.
I don't know.
We both she mentioned at first, and then I was already feeling it and about to say something that she did.
And you'd mentioned also, I think that there was like this static charge that you still felt.
Is that?
The static charge started to go away.
It started to go away, but you'd still, it was still coming down.
It was coming back to me in small amounts.
Where I got further away from the truck, it kind of went away.
Wow, really?
When I'm in the truck, it would come back and different.
Whoa, and it wouldn't stay.
It would go and come back, go and come back.
It was kind of reverberating.
Erratic.
When I moved away from the truck and we had gone in to use the restroom, grab something to drink, it was gone.
When I would come back to the truck, it was coming back.
And so it was happening when we came back to the truck.
Now, once we bought our drinks and stuff, we were about to mention, like, did anybody see, you know?
But before that even happened, somebody walked in and was like, it looks like there's like some meteor that just came by, just went by.
And did anybody notice the meteor?
And I was like, no, I didn't see a meteor.
I know what meteors look like.
And you know what space debris looks like when it's returning to the Earth's atmosphere.
So, yes.
When you have something burning up, like an old piece of space junk that's floating around in our space, and we got tons of stuff floating around up there, and we see it.
We know where most of this stuff is, and it's risky putting up satellites.
You're having to avoid all the stuff that's just flying around up there.
When it comes back into the atmosphere, it burns up, and pieces start burning off of it and separating from it.
Pieces that burn up and separate, change colors and do all sorts of things.
And eventually it touches down, and then somebody has to go and clean up.
And, you know, of course, it makes the news and such.
So that's the other thing that kind of baffled me the fact that NASA pointed out it was possibly space debris.
They didn't say it was space debris.
When was that?
That was shortly after.
I think we arrived in Colorado and I was just looking stuff up.
Sure, to see if anything goes.
But there were several hundred eyewitnesses.
I didn't do it right away.
Later on, I just kind of read through hundreds and hundreds of, you know, comments.
And some of them really lined up well with what we witnessed, you know.
And I realized that they weren't very far away from where we were.
And so it was odd that they had very similar descriptions in some of those witness reports that I had read.
But yeah, the odd thing is that this space debris should have landed somewhere up in North Carolina.
North Carolina.
Northern North Carolina or Virginia area.
Yeah.
Right.
Where it should have come down.
And you'd think that there would be, you know, some news reports of some space debris that was found and collected it up.
Anything.
Nothing.
Nothing was found.
And so that was odd.
There was no news reports of somebody having a piece of a satellite that came down that they were cleaning up.
Now, I'm not taking away the fact that that was, you know, Russian space.
They believed it was probably a Russian satellite.
They had come down.
Um, which I'm not taken away from that, that could have very well happened.
Also happened.
Right.
But, you know, it's odd that we witnessed this around the exact same time, which lead me to believe that maybe it was using, you know, everybody's focused attention is on this space debris so that this other thing can move around and do what it wants to do.
They needed an explanation.
Right.
Right.
So, like, maybe this, this, uh, UAP, um, perhaps had a mission and took the opportunity why attention was focused.
Elsewhere to do what it wants to do without, you know, getting spotted.
And okay, we'll get into what it wanted to do in a second because it gets pretty wild.
It gets really wild.
As you can tell, I've got like a pile of printed notes here from Dr. Horace Drew, right?
You know, who's done a lot of study on this.
And so is, you know, Linda Moulton Howe as well, and kind of picking up where they left off here.
But before I get to that, I want to go back to the symbols just real quick.
Absolutely.
And one other thing, there was also these seemingly what looked like portholes that were around the craft that you described, like these squarish windows that were rounded that you said kind of like that illuminated.
Right.
And you weren't sure if they were windows or if they were just lights.
Did those show up?
They kind of just showed up or were they always there on the craft?
They were there the entire time.
The image that you're looking at.
The middle one was my wife's interpretation of what she had witnessed.
And she's not an artist.
I drew what she wanted me to draw the way she wanted it.
And she was standing right over me, helping me.
She identified those lights around as being round and circular.
I identified in mine, upper image, because I was a little bit distracted trying to get these done quick.
And they're crappy.
I don't like them at all.
I wish I spent like a few days on each one.
You're a tough critic.
I'm a tough critic, but I love art.
I love that stuff.
You're obviously very talented.
I'm not.
You are, but I'm decent.
I mean, if every experiencer was this talented, it might help us piece the puzzle together a lot, Quick Girl, I'll tell you.
But first of all, they're strikingly similar in their surface and what's going on on the outside of the craft.
But yeah, go ahead.
So the vehicle.
That she witnessed the lights around the side as round.
I recognized them as being slightly rectangular with rounded edges.
Correct.
So, but I was really observing and really focusing on trying to identify, whereas she was just experiencing.
And so, in her defense, she was wanting to describe or see things the way that she interpreted them.
I'm looking at it in a completely different, other mind frame trained observer military mind frame of trying to identify.
Noticed small details, noticed anything that could help me identify things.
And so I paid close attention to those lights around the outside and their shape.
And I, I, I was just trying to identify its silhouette and the way it was moving and everything that I could so that I can articulate that later.
And you were trying to identify the silhouette because that's what you're trained to do with the radar work that you've done.
You identify things on a radar by its silhouette and obviously by its trajectory, its speed, and all that stuff too.
But that's one of the big things.
So you were trying to see if that lined up with anything that you had previously observed on a radar.
Is that fair to say?
Military Mindset Analysis00:17:13
And so the symbols here, we see five symbols.
I find them really interesting that you, they do look familiar to like the Bugosphere symbols, but many other symbols.
Like you said, it doesn't look so much like letters, but symbols, like almost like hieroglyphics or even quite similar to like Greek lettering a little bit as well.
We see some of them here.
And obviously, we're going to touch on the Rendlesham incident as well.
Okay.
A few comparisons to be made, but one of which is the lettering on the craft as well was kind of similar, which I thought was really interesting.
But there's a middle symbol here that I picked up.
So the middle symbol, which is like a line, like these two lines, like this.
Correct.
There's a case in Spain of Umo.
Okay.
This was like this wave.
I got two books up there, but it was this wave from the 50s to the 70s in Europe where these letters were kind of like sent all over Europe.
Apparently, by an alien race.
But the symbol that kept showing up, and this was from a sighting in Russia, but if you look at the belt.
Oh, wow.
Yes.
Yeah.
Very similar.
So I thought that was just really interesting that it's kind of the Umo symbol that showed up on this craft.
Almost like a squeeze.
Yeah.
Space and time.
Yeah.
Like a weird H or something.
Right.
Okay.
So at this point, you get to this place to stretch your legs.
Talk us through what happens next.
Yeah.
So, yes, we're walking out after purchasing, and we're hearing that some people had seen like a meteor or something that had come down and asked if anybody had seen it.
We were like, we saw something different, but no, we didn't see a meteor.
And they pointed out that it just went by.
So, I'm not sure if this just came by that they witnessed why we were in the store or why we were parked as soon as we got to the gas station or maybe behind us when.
We were arriving at the gas station, but, um, or if it, or if it was the exact same thing we would notice.
But we, we were, my wife and I at the time were still like, what in the heck?
But we were, we were trying not to create a scene as well.
So we were just kind of listening to what other people had seen.
And then we went back to the truck and we continued on a little bit further.
Um, it wasn't, but a few more miles.
It said we arrived at our final destination.
And I was like, we are not in caught.
What is going on with this thing?
It took us to, A very desolate church and took us directly to the cemetery associated with the church.
And it said, Excuse me, it said that we were at our final destination, which is Colorado Springs, Colorado, and we were at a cemetery.
And that's when we realized, okay, this is not working.
Something happened with our GPS, something misguided us.
I had to power down the GPS and reprogram it, re put it in, re put in the information.
And I believe we started using our phone, Google Maps kind of thing to make sure that our GPS wasn't taking us some wild, ever next direction.
Yeah.
So we used our phone with the GPS just to make sure to have like a backup.
You know, so in case it took us off course again, our regular phone.
You can compare it.
My phone says we keep going straight.
So this thing's telling us the turn.
So, but that never happened.
They both worked in sync and we continued on.
We got back on track.
We went through Atlanta and we stopped to rest.
I was exhausted.
We found out that we had burnt through several, several hours.
We had several, several hours of missing time.
How many hours?
Roughly three to four hours missing time.
And it would be a normal trip like that from, I want to say, like Hinesville area to Atlanta would not take that long.
I mean, that's an hour and a half, maybe an hour and 45 minutes.
But we had killed six hours, seven hours of time, and not realizing where that time had gone, there was no way that we could have burned through that much time.
And so that's what was throwing us off.
And as soon as we got to Atlanta, the sun was up.
And I was burnt out.
She was burnt out.
We stopped at a hotel right after we got through Atlanta.
I believe it was like Magnuson something hotel.
And we tried to sleep.
I couldn't sleep very well.
She couldn't sleep very well either.
Did you feel ill at all?
I didn't feel ill.
I didn't feel sick.
I just felt uneasy, uncomfortable.
I couldn't get comfortable.
I couldn't, I mean, I couldn't close my eyes for too long.
So, you know, I was rested.
I felt rested enough.
And I may have dozed off shortly, you know, for a short while and wake back up.
So I was just kind of in and out of getting rest and waking up, getting rest and waking up.
I just couldn't sleep very comfortably.
And we couldn't stay there for two days.
So we had to get back on the road.
So I loaded up on coffee, that good old fashioned caffeine energy to get back going.
And I made sure I was good to go and got the kids loaded up.
We got back on the road and drove.
Further, kept on going.
And it was when we stopped in Paducah, Kentucky, I believe is what it was called to my memory.
I believe it was Paducah, Kentucky at Motel Six or Hotel Six.
We had animals with us, so that's the best place to stop when you have animals.
And we went up, and I was ready just to crash out.
I was burnt out, half asleep.
It was time for me to rack the heck out.
So I racked out.
I fell asleep quickly.
I had woken up at some point, uncoherently woken up.
And I woke up standing in the bathroom with the light on and a pen in my hand and a receipt, the hotel receipt.
I was writing had squares and lines.
Now, uncoherently, I remember walking to the bathroom with the lights off, just kind of feeling my way around to the bathroom.
And I remember turning on the light, and I don't really remember writing the squares and lines.
But when I had really woken up and come to, I had realized I had written a bunch of squares and lines on the back of that receipt.
And I'm still holding the pen, so I just wrote WTF on it.
Yeah, we all know what that means, right?
So I had that's a WTF moment.
Yeah, if ever there is one.
WTF, definitely.
Yes, it was one of those.
Okay, WTF.
I didn't think much of it.
I threw it back with my paperwork and I stumbled back to bed and went back to sleep.
I don't know why I got up.
I didn't need to use the restroom or anything.
I just got up and was in there doing it.
I went back to sleep.
I remember having some sort of dream that night, but I don't recall exactly what transpired in that dream at that time.
But I remember we all woke up, we got ready, we got back on the road.
Meanwhile, I'm just Kind of ignoring the fact that I had done that.
And I remember while we were on the road, I said, I was in the bathroom writing something down.
I don't remember why or what caused me to do that.
I mentioned it to her.
She's like, Well, you're weird.
So I don't know.
You know, I'm military.
So I have a lot of weird analogies about things.
Sure.
She just thinks I'm goofy.
But we get back on the road.
We don't think much of it.
We continue on.
The rest of the trip just seemed to be, Fairly normal, uh, to the most part.
Um, besides a, you know, occasional accident or whatnot, you know, we're, I'm just trying to drive safely and get us, get us to where we're going.
And it's when we arrive in Colorado, we stayed with a friend.
And I wanted to get this put out as quickly as possible.
You mean the report?
I wanted to report this as quickly as possible because when you spend so much time in the military and you have people come by and have you sign nondisclosure statements where you don't discuss it, I wanted to report this as quickly as possible before somebody would have stopped me.
Before somebody told you you can't talk about this?
Before someone told me.
Because that's happened before?
Yes.
Many times?
Many times.
Okay.
So I wanted to get it out before somebody told me not to talk about it.
So I reported as quickly as possible.
And I wrote down as much information as I could in a short period of time because, in the process of getting to Colorado, it's time for us to find a place to live.
It's time to figure out where the kids are going to go to school.
There are several different other things going on.
So I reported it.
I believe I reported it to the National UFO Reporting Center.
Okay.
That of Washington or New Fork.
New Fork.
Okay.
So I reported it to them and let it go.
And then I went on to my daily life of getting things situated.
While we were there at our friends, my wife and I both woke up in the middle of the night with an uneasy feeling.
And so we looked out our window down into the backyard of, and behind the backyard, there's like an alleyway, a road alleyway.
And then some more houses because this is where our friend's house was.
It was on the side of a hill.
So you have, you know, alley vehicle.
Sure.
You know, if you're parked in the backyard, you can, you know, use this little one lane paved road to get in and out of.
And I had this uneasy feeling.
I look out the window, looking down at that road, and I spotted three dark figures, the shadow figures slowly moving.
Toward the back of the house and stopped and looked like if they were observing me observing it.
And my wife climbs up and looks and she's like, Oh my God, what is that?
And I was like, I have no idea.
Do you see it?
And he's like, Yes, I see.
I see three.
And I was like, She's seeing exactly what I'm seeing.
I'm not crazy.
Yeah, you're not asleep.
I'm not ashamed.
So we were looking and we were like, What in the hell?
And she's like, That is making me feel extremely uncomfortable today.
I know I'm feeling the same thing.
It was kind of freaking us out.
They were observing us observing it.
And so I moved from the bedroom into the dining room where the sliding glass doors were.
And I'm looking and I still see them, but now they're right at the sidewalk that leads to that road.
And now they're in the sidewalk in the backyard looking up at me.
How tall?
The middle one was a little bit taller.
The other two were just a little bit shorter, but there was no distinct lines, or there was no distinct lines, or it was just dark shadows.
Without, you know, clear, crisp lines.
Right.
So it was like a dissipating sort of like shadow.
Yes, but you can tell that they were figures.
These were figures.
Whoa.
But there was no distinct, you know, line.
You know, it was like a faded or blurred around the edges.
So this was freaking me out because my kids are in the living room right near that sliding glass door.
And I went into dad defensive mode like, all right, some shit's about to go down.
Come get some.
Come get some.
You know, I got you.
And so I'm secretly nervous and concerned, a little bit frightened, but I'm not going to show I'm afraid of anything.
I'm ready to fight.
So my aggression came out, and I'm standing there and I'm trying to size them up with my appearance.
I'm trying to display I'm ready to go, I'm ready to throw down.
But it's just the vibe that I kept getting is like, there's nothing you could do.
There is nothing you can do.
So, I mean, I just, that's the vibe that I just kept getting from this.
So, I shut the blinds and moved back closer to my kids away from the door and window and closed them because I didn't want to see them right up against the glass doors.
That would freak me out.
I mean, I would literally, I don't know what I would have done.
You know, I don't know if I'd just go charging at the glass doors, breaking the glass and attacking whatever it is.
Sure.
I didn't want to see that.
So, I closed the blinds.
The curtains, and I moved back closer to my kids to be more protective of my kids.
She was kind of in the hallway, just kind of peering out, but then she had gone back in the room and kept looking through the window in the room.
And I waited there with the kids for a while.
And I remember after about five, 10 minutes, I decided I need to muster up some courage and come open these blinds.
And so, yeah, I mustered up all my aggression and, um, My willpower, and I went over and threw the blinds open, standing there, and they weren't there.
My God.
Thankfully, they were not right outside those glass doors.
And so I'm looking around, I'm looking down where I'd seen them before.
They're nowhere to be found.
I look out the front window to see if they're out in the front.
They weren't out in the front, and it just vanished.
Yeah.
But it was a moment.
That was the only weird moment that happened right there in our friend's house that we were staying at.
We talked about her and with her in the morning, and she's like, Oh, that's weird.
I've never noticed things like that.
It was around this time that Mufon came by after filing my report.
I believe they wanted to, they asked me permission to share with Mufon so they could come out and investigate.
And I said, Yeah, absolutely.
So Mufon came out.
They checked out us physically, they separated us.
They wanted to look at our bodies to see if there were any.
I had some strange markings on my, I thought, with injuries on my back.
On your back?
They did.
Back in your neck?
My neck and my back area.
Yeah.
They didn't seem.
You mean puncture wounds?
I felt like there were puncture wounds or some sort of.
There were red spots and puncture wounds that I felt, that it felt like to me on my back.
And my wife said they looked like little needle holes or something.
When they came out and investigated, they didn't find any.
They looked at them, but they didn't seem too interested and that there wasn't a pattern or anything consistent.
So they just took pictures and moved on to other things.
And they asked us what transpired separately.
So we both described.
What transpired separately.
Keep in mind, my wife and I, we think completely different, which is fine.
We're all human beings.
I think there are enough similarities between the stories to like, because something that is said often about, like, let's say the case in Rua, Zimbabwe with the children at Ariel's school, they all drew different things.
But if they all drew the same thing, that's where you start getting suspicious because now you're following a narrative, you're following some type of storyline, whereas interpretation happens differently.
Our experiences are unique and they're not.
Exactly the same.
And that's often what we see with genuine encounters.
Absolutely.
It's what makes us individuals.
That's right.
Right.
So they interviewed us separately.
They checked her out physically and emotionally.
They spoke about it.
They had her speak about what had happened, what transpired.
And they talked to me and they brought us back together.
They wanted to check out the truck.
They were out there.
I believe there was a doctor talking with me about some of the marks on me.
And he was just saying, Oh, this is pretty normal, blah, blah, blah, you know, and why they were out there.
I kept hearing noises from them.
And so I said, Hold on a minute.
And I walked out and they were like, Oh, and then they were just like freaking out.
Oh my God, you see, this is going wild.
And it was the, it was picking up radiation from the truck and magnetism from the truck.
And they seemed kind of excited about it.
So I was like, Okay.
Radiation and Magnetism Detected00:10:40
Okay, okay.
That's weird.
I washed my truck.
I didn't think about, you know, I should keep the truck the way it is.
I didn't think about it at the time.
Yeah.
I was never involved in investigating things like that.
Sure.
You know, with the military, it's completely different.
I stay behind the radar.
I don't go anywhere and investigate anything.
Yeah.
You're not allowed to.
I mean, not necessarily allowed to.
I wasn't asked to.
Oh, you weren't asked to.
So it was more or less to me.
And I have investigated impact sites, you know, when we have rounds that impacted where we're operating from, from enemy.
You know, targets, artillery, rockets, things like that.
Generally, I would go and look at these impact sites and do a back azimuth.
Okay.
Back azimuth is where's the largest crater, where's the smallest crater.
You put sticks in within the two because usually when a mortar or rocket or artillery piece hits the dirt, there's a smaller hole and it continues to travel before it explodes.
So then you have a bigger hole and a smaller hole and you triangulate where that impact is and you take an azimuth of where that direction came from and it gives you a general idea of where it was fired from.
So, yes, we would investigate.
Sometimes I wouldn't go investigate some of these impact craters and determine things.
Other times where it involved other things, usually there's other people who went to investigate.
You were not investigating those things.
Correct. Okay. Correct.
So.
I understand how investigation works.
It's just this situation with my family, completely, completely, utterly different with investigating.
I wouldn't have thought of not washing my vehicle, but I had washed my vehicle in the process of getting to Colorado.
It was dirty.
I needed to be able to see through my windshield and I needed to be able to, you know, my headlights needed to be at work.
So we had to remove a lot of bugs and other things.
So I took it and washed it off.
I didn't think about that.
I only washed it once, though.
Which was good.
It means I could have washed it several times, only washed it once, and it was still picking up radiation.
It was still picking up magnetism when they were out there, you know, a little bit excited.
Yeah.
When I got out there and walked over, their excitement turned to, oh, yeah, this is, this seems pretty normal.
So they had a magnometer and they were like, and a Geiger counter, I guess?
Yeah, Geiger counter and a magnetometer.
Yeah, magnet.
Yeah, right.
That they were scanning around.
And the majority of this, the majority of the magnetism and the radiation was, um, Generally located or primarily located along the driver's side door, the driver's side roof, and the driver's side front hood.
But there was a lot that went all the way across the front hood and onto the passenger side quarter panel.
Sure.
Quarter panel.
Okay.
But the strongest readings were along the driver's side, which was kind of throwing me off a bit.
Did that freak you out a little bit here and there?
It freaked me out a little bit.
But when I was walking over, I noticed that when they noticed that I had walked over, their excitement, they immediately turned it way down and were hiding their excitement when I had walked over.
I was like, I just witnessed y'all being quite excited about this.
And then when I walk over, oh, this seems pretty normal.
I mean, it's picking up some stuff on both, but it seems pretty normal.
And it was like their excitement just vanished when they realized that I was really close to them walking up to them.
Suspicious.
Right.
And so it just kind of threw me off a little bit.
And I was like, okay.
Don't want to share excitement with me.
Okay.
So you don't want to, you want to remain professional.
And I get that.
I mean, some people want to remain professional and not, and not indicate too much excitement.
Sure.
For you don't want to freak out the person.
False positive or something.
Right.
You don't want to freak out the person you're interviewing.
So I understand those possibilities.
But yeah.
So that took place.
They collected some pictures and information from us.
And they told us they'd, you know, get us a report and get back to us.
At this point, you had.
Your receipt from the hotel still.
Right.
You'd only written on it once.
You'd only have this one transmission, we'll say.
Right.
At this point?
At this point, it was only one transmission at that time.
Okay.
It was a little while later, right before we left our friend's house, that I believe I had another one.
And middle of the night again?
Right.
Middle of the night, just waking up and doing that.
Do you remember?
This one?
Is there one of them that you remembered early on, or did you always sort of wake up just writing?
No.
Before we even made this trip, I'm glad I had a conversation with my wife before this interview because she reminded me before we left and we were still in Georgia and I was still working in Georgia.
She remembered a time where I had gotten up and I was completely out of it on the bathroom floor.
And just yelling out or speaking out zeros and ones.
I just kept them 00111000011, you know, and a fast pace.
And she was like, What in the hell are you?
And she was trying to wake me up.
She thought I was going to die.
She said I was trying to scratch.
When she covered my mouth, I tried to write them onto the door with my fingernail.
She said it freaked her out.
And she went and got a receipt and was trying to write down the zeros and ones, but I was saying them so fast that she couldn't keep up.
Eventually, she got me alert.
I realized I was on the floor and I just got up, immediately went back to bed, laid down, went to sleep like nothing happened.
And she said that really freaked her out.
That was before anything.
That was before we even went on our trip.
So I'm glad she reminded me that because I almost forgot about that.
And I tend to forget things sometimes, but there's just so much when you have so much things happening to you throughout your life, it's hard to remember, you know, or not really hard, but you sometimes forget some of those things that have happened.
And you, Somebody reminding you of it is quite helpful and beneficial.
You're not, well, I mean, first of all, were you familiar with binary at any point of your life?
Were you, you weren't working in computer science or anything?
You weren't part of anybody who would be familiar to that extent with binary code for any reason whatsoever?
No, no, our military computers are completely different.
They don't operate on binary.
Yeah.
So I was really unfamiliar with binary and I didn't understand what binary was until later on.
When it was brought up to me by Dr. Horace Drew.
Yeah.
And that binary, and we'll get into that in a second once we talk about some more of the transmissions that happen.
But that binary is special because it's not standard binary.
Right.
And so that's what makes this even more novel and strange the fact that you had seemingly invented a new form of binary.
That's wild.
Yes.
He found that.
I'm sure you have some images we can pull up and show people.
Some of these are empty boxes and some of them are solid boxes or filled in.
And then we had some thicker lines and some thinner lines that were in some of my dreams that I was writing down.
And I also realized that when I was having these, they began to evolve over time.
So the first time that I was in that hotel on our way to Colorado Springs, they were moving fast.
So in order for me to keep up, I was just Doing the boxes and lines as quickly as possible as that was seeing them.
And in my mind's eye, things were a little bit darker all around, but they were appearing as like this blue color.
So you remember this happening?
You remember seeing this?
I remember seeing it later on.
Later on.
So it took a few days for me to have a dream or some more sleep time where I'm remembering.
And then the next day I'm waking up and I'm like, okay, I remember seeing some blue.
Boxes and lines coming across my face.
Like this, just kind of like reading.
Like everything's just not black, but everything's darker around me where I could still see that I'm in a room and objects in that room.
They're just darker, and these blue boxes and lines are coming by my face.
So the first time they happened, they were coming fast.
It was difficult for me to keep up.
I couldn't shade them all in or make them thicker.
It was just get the boxes and lines down.
And so that's what I did the first time.
Yeah.
The ones after had slowed down enough where I could fill in the dark boxes and leave the light boxes.
And I had more time to actually put them down.
It was simple.
I could look anywhere.
I didn't have to look in front of me or anything.
I could look directly at the paper, and they're happening right in my peripherals from right to left, just moving slow.
And so I'm able to do the boxes and lines nice and simple, easier that way.
Now, over time, they began to morph into lowercase letters and capital letters, and then eventually into more or less like just.
Verbal messages, you know, in my head.
Before we get to the verbal messages, right, let's take this one step at a time because this is absolutely there is a lot of information here.
So, first off, the subsequent messages after the first one, how far apart were those?
I see here we have October, we've got November, November again, November, then December.
So, this is happening really frequently at this point.
Absolutely.
How frequent after that late June encounter?
Up until November, how many transmissions do you estimate you've had?
A couple per month?
I would say maybe three or four in a month at times, other times, maybe just one a month or none.
And then the following months, two or three, there was no pattern.
And that's one thing I was trying to notice is there a pattern?
Continuous Message Transmission00:10:50
There was never a pattern.
Is it something I ate?
Yeah.
And I'm not taking credit for this at all because she's, She's beautiful.
She's amazing.
Linda Moulton Howe, I had spoken with, you know, shortly after MUFON, and she indicated that this is important because I told her I had some messages that I hadn't been writing down.
She indicated that it's probably very important, and I need to have a journal next to me so that I'm able to write these things down.
And so she's the one that gave me, she's the brilliant mind behind.
I need to write these things down when they happen, date them, and keep a record.
Good for her.
Great on her.
She helped me with that.
And she deserves all the credit for that because that was an amazing idea.
I would have never thought of that.
And so that's what I started to do.
I started writing these things down when they happened.
And to also, to Linda's credit, she was the one who discovered Jim Peniston's binary code.
The Rendlesham Forest incident in England, 1980, where U.S. Air Force officer Jim Peniston said he walked up to a landed craft covered in strange symbols and then lost time.
Years later, it was Linda Moulton Howe who took a closer look at the notes Peniston had been carrying around in his old notebook and realized that what looked like nonsense was actually 16 pages of structured binary that could be decoded into English.
Now, both of these read cold and technical, like instructions instead of sort of conversational English, and they had very similar wording, including the words humanity, continuous, protection and protect, advance and advancement, coordinates.
Monitor, monitoring, warning, warn, beware.
Also, the words origin, transmission, message, planetary, survival, all of these words overlap within these two cases.
And in both cases, the crafts were described as featuring sharp geometric symbols.
And some of these symbols, as you can see here, are almost identical.
So, for those who are not familiar with the Rendlesham Forest case, but in 1980, Jim Penniston was, you know, encountered this black triangular craft, had etchings on it, much like the ones that were observed by you and your wife upon touching the craft, was then shot with some type of download, if you want to call it or whatnot.
And had subsequently written down 16 pages of ones and zeros and had not talked about it, had not mentioned it.
And it wasn't until I think Linda and him were doing an interview and he had his notepad with him that she kind of shoulder surfed and was like, Hey, Jim, what's that?
And he went, Oh, this, I don't know.
I just wrote a bunch of incoherent ones and zeros down like after it happened.
And then come to find that there's this incredible message attached to, you know, that binary sequence.
And we have it here just.
For the audience, um, and this is yours.
There's another, where is it here?
Well, I'll pull it up on the screen here so we can, right?
Like you said, you have got a lot of information here, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Um, but essentially, you know, um, exploration of humanity, there was like this date, there were these coordinates.
The coordinates led to all sorts of significant geographical sites around the globe, eyes of our eyes, uh, 8100, like.
Which is, I guess, a year or something.
And for the continuous, what is it?
Something, the continuous of humanity.
The verbiage was very similar to what was eventually found in yours, which I found very interesting.
But so we have this binary code that Jim Peniston has.
We have Linda Moulton Howe now seeing that, oh, something similar might be happening to you.
You might be getting some type of transmission.
And so she tells you, hey, write this down.
This is important.
Now, After writing all of this down, what happens when you give it to Linda?
She looks at it and she goes, This is the amazing part.
So she's asking for some of this.
And so I'm taking pictures of my notebook Of my notebook, and I'm sending them over to her.
And she's looking at it, and she knew she was going to have to reach out to some people and see if somebody can find a way to decipher it, decipher this and decode it.
And at some point, she reached out to Dr. Horace Drew.
Did Linda at one point not feel like this is incoherent?
Like there's no, because she tried to decode it as standard binary and with no avail.
Correct.
Yeah.
So after that, you might think to yourself, oh, this.
Crap, I thought this might be binary.
Right.
And it isn't.
Well, it's not standard binary.
It's not standard binary.
It's quite odd.
Dr. Horace Drew, a geneticist whom you may remember from our interview with Peter Curry, he was a doctor that did the tests on Peter's hair samples.
Dr. Drew took several weeks to decode these messages, and that's because they weren't simple binary.
This was a form of layered binary known as multiplex, which allows multiple messages to be sent simultaneously.
Let me explain.
Binary is essentially the simplest way to represent information using only two states, on and off.
Everything is built from these two opposites working in patterns.
By arranging enough on and off states together, you can create letters, images, sounds, and videos.
Computers use binary because their electronic parts naturally switch between these two conditions, making it the most reliable way for machines to think.
But this novel or new multiplex system works by embedding three separate binary messages inside a single set of symbols.
So, the first message is read using shape alone, where squares represent zero and lines represent one.
The second message is hidden in the shading of only the squares, where filled squares are zero and empty squares are one.
The third message is encoded in the shading of only the lines, where thick shaded lines represent zero and thin lines represent one.
Each layer operates independently, allowing three completely different messages to be transmitted simultaneously within the same visual pattern.
This was then sent to Dr. Horace Drew.
I just want to give the audience a bit of a reference of who Dr. Horace Drew is.
You might be familiar with him because he is also the one who ended up testing Peter Curry's hair and did those DNA tests, which we, Peter Curry, who we had on the show recently.
So a brilliant mind, somebody who is definitely an outside of the box thinker, a bit of a brilliant person.
So shout out to Dr. Drew here.
And to Dr. Drew's credit, how many months did it take for Dr. Drew to come back to you and say, I cracked it?
That's the thing.
He's a brilliant mind.
It didn't take months.
Yeah.
From my understanding, it took him several weeks.
Yep.
But he did not mention months.
He's a very brilliant person.
Yep.
Great person to talk to.
He's open minded and he's a really good listener and he offers a lot of good advice.
So it took him several weeks before he.
Began to unravel things.
And then he looked into it further and further and realized that these were.
If you pull up the images again and you show the boxes and lines, you will see that it's not pages upon pages.
I'm having dreams of just, you know, like paragraph versions of these.
Because normally if you have binary, it's.
So after learning about binary through Dr. Drew, And looking some stuff up on the internet, zeros and ones, you could have eight to 10 pages of nothing but zeros and ones, and the message is a short few sentences or a short paragraph.
Whereas this is short and message, but the information is quite extensive.
So that's what was throwing me off.
And I was like, okay, well, I just looked up how binary works, but this doesn't.
Makes sense with binary.
How come there's why is it that they're so short in messages, but the information is as much, there's more information involved in it than that.
And it's because he determined that there was several layers or multiplexing going on.
And I would like to think that it's more or less like a dimensional or cube form, whereas you have boxes and lines as one particular message is almost like zeros and ones.
Then you have dark squares and light squares.
That are telling another message.
And then you have dark lines and thin lines that are telling another message.
And then there's, I believe he found some capitalization, which are providing other messages and message within a message within a message within a message.
Providing a ton more information than the boxes and lines together.
He called multiplexing.
Dr. Drew ends up.
Uh, decoding this, which, as mentioned, as you know, you guys just saw the little explanation here, but this is a brand new form of binary code.
Now, the message that we get once we decipher this is, first of all, not so dissimilar from Jim Penniston's message, but man, there's a lot to digest in these first messages.
Messages.
Now, you have many messages, but these first few ones, I'm just going to go ahead and read them out first, and then we can sort of talk about them and talk about how you felt when you got these.
So, June 30th, this is the next day, this is in the motel or the following day when you guys stopped on your way to Colorado.
Right.
Continuous protection of humanity.
Hidden Knowledge Exposed00:03:21
49.27 north, 11.5 east.
Expose hidden knowledge to all citizens.
Advancement imperative for planetary survival.
Beware of Orion 1350.3 and Z Reticuli 39.170.
Avoid and signal in brackets messages sent.
So that's the first one.
There's a lot to unpack, even on the first one.
So, can you tell me what the coordinates would represent here?
So, we're going to break down the first one based on the information that I received back from Linda Moulton Howe.
Yeah.
And Dr. Horace Drew, who was able to translate these.
And from what I remember, Linda and Dr. Horace Drew found a location for that grid coordinate.
And which ended up being in Germany somewhere.
I want to, if I remember correctly, it was some location or field near Nuremberg, I believe, if I'm not mistaken.
What was uncovered is that I believe in the 1500s or 1600s or 1400s, there was a wood carving from an incident that happened there.
A mass sighting.
The coordinates 49.27 north and 11.5 east fall inside a historically active region of southern Germany tied to unexplained aerial events, Cold War intelligence, and recurring crop formations.
The location sits within the same corridor as the 1561 Nuremberg mass sighting.
Now, this mass sighting was a mass daylight event witnessed by hundreds of residents of Nuremberg on the morning of April 14, 1561.
At dawn, people reported seeing dozens of strange objects in the sky.
Described as spheres, cylinders, crosses, and rod shaped forms moving rapidly and appearing to collide as if engaged in aerial battle.
Some of the objects were said to fall toward the ground outside the city, after which a large black spear or arrow shaped object reportedly appeared overhead.
The event was recorded in a woodcut and pamphlet by Hans Glaser, who framed it as a frightening sign from the heavens.
A mass sighting from a lot of different individuals where there was some sort of aerial combat that was taking place.
And in this woodcut, you could see that one of these aerial craft was shot down and was smoking on the ground.
From what I remember from looking at the image, And that there were like spears and rods and orbs that were, I guess, in some sort of conflict that the people were witnessing, which I found odd that that was in a message that I had written down almost non coherently in a hotel room bathroom, standing there almost in my birthday suit.
Yeah.
Shocking Woodcut Imagery00:06:00
You know, and this just came to me.
And so you can imagine what that does to your mind being told that you wrote something down and it has, you don't know what these boxes and lines mean, but somebody's able to decode it and it's a clear message.
You sent that out not knowing anything, like not knowing if it's binary, not knowing anything whatsoever.
I gave that to her saying, good luck with this.
Yeah.
It's probably gibberish.
Good luck.
This is going to be nothing.
And it comes back with an actual message.
An actual message.
Comprehensive message that just threw me back.
How does that terrify you?
That would scare, sorry, pardon my French, it would scare the shit out of me.
It kind of did.
And, you know, if you reached out to Linda and you talked with her and she would identify the conversations that we have over the phone, yeah, it kind of freaked me out a little bit.
And she will be honest to say that, yeah, it brought me to tears a few times.
It shaken me.
And my core quite a bit.
How did your wife handle that?
I can't speak for her.
She was supportive, but at the same time, it freaked her out as well.
It made her seriously think or rethink things in her head.
It affected her as well.
That what I wrote down in that hotel bathroom was it's hard to comprehend, or it's difficult to digest the information that's being told to you.
You know, to understand that you had the gibberish that you put down turned out to be something much more profound.
And I think that that's what was hard for me to digest, but it just gets worse.
Or it gets better.
However, you want to look at things, everyone's different.
It progresses.
It progresses, definitely.
So within this first message, we're also given coordinates or what seems like distances between Earth and Orion.
And then Earth and Zeta Reticuli, because Zeta Reticuli happens to be 39 point some light years away from Earth.
Is that something you knew?
No.
I did not know.
I didn't know what that was.
When they were talking about the 39 point something, I was like, what is that, miles?
Because that's not very far.
And then they're saying, no, this is more than likely light years.
And it was like, light years?
How far is a light year?
I mean, I don't know what this is.
I mean, I know there's speeds associated with.
How fast light travels from point A to point B in an Earth year.
But yeah, I really didn't.
And so, were you ever like, because this is just so wild?
Like, to anyone out there listening, like, you go from, you know, there's no two ways to interpret this information.
No, there's not.
It's either you choose to, Accept it or you choose to ignore it.
But there's no fitting this into any type of model.
Right.
It doesn't fit anywhere.
You're given clearly a message through some type of code, and that message turns out to be this seeming warning of beings or at least a star system of Orion and Zeta Reticuli.
And then it tells you to avoid the messages.
Sent or maybe avoid sending messages or.
Right.
And then looking up the Nuremberg woodcut.
That's right.
Was also like, for me, it was like, that's part of the warning too, I suppose.
I mean, but what's happening in this woodcut?
What's going on?
What's transpiring?
Yeah.
We can almost assume like, because you said there was like a recovery or something on that woodcut, right?
There's like a smoke plume and there's something on the ground.
Do you think that's what they're referring to when they say expose hidden knowledge to all citizens and with that coordinate?
I don't want to interpret what someone else thinks or comes to the conclusion of, but I take it as a warning.
I perceive it as a warning.
Others may perceive it in a different light, but that to me is a little bit shocking.
Also, going back to the Zeta Reticuli and what was the other one?
Orion.
When I looked up, The light years, it wasn't with a point.
When I looked it up, it just said it's roughly, what is it, 39 point something?
Yeah, 39.17.
When you look it up, it just says 39.
Well, what is the point seven?
What does that mean?
Why is there a point in a seven?
Is that near the star, but not on the star?
That's what was throwing me off a little bit.
What is exactly at that point?
At that point, you know what I mean?
Okay.
Now, once we grab the, let's say, subtext of this code, you start to, you're able to grab different letters from here and there that are all capitalized, let's say, and put them together.
And this is part of that code system that allows you to do that.
When you do that, on this first Uh, transmission, you get check all AI, check all AI.
Dark Projects Disbanded00:15:13
Yeah, now 2015, we didn't have AI, it wasn't really a thing, nobody was even talking about it really.
You know, maybe in a sci fi book or something, or we had thought of the concept of AI, but we had not, there was no public, you know, use of AI by any means, right?
Um, I find that to be quite alarming, absolutely.
What would be the benefit to expose hidden knowledge to, I guess, get us all on the same playing field?
I mean, I, that part I've really been thinking about a lot because it just stood out to me.
And so I started thinking about it.
It was like, well, if we're keeping it under wraps, we're keeping it under dark projects or groups that keep it really under wraps, what are they benefiting from it other than technology, military technology kind of stuff?
We want to be able to defend ourselves against adversaries, right?
So when you have these dark projects, I'm just going off my own opinion here.
Nothing per se.
But when you have these dark projects and they're working to reverse engineer or use the information to better military advancements where we're able to have the upper hand per se and conflicts with our neighbors, we want to be able to have the technology to be able to defend ourselves.
I mean, of course, that's.
What just about every country does, do they not?
I believe so.
When I think about that message and I think about how far have we come with these things happening behind closed doors and limited amount of eyes looking at them and scientists looking at them, we're not going to progress as fast that way.
We're not going to be able to evolve with the right speed.
That we need to be evolving at.
So maybe I interpret that as maybe these shouldn't be dark projects.
Maybe they should be a little bit more open.
And no, you can't discuss weapons to the public.
You don't want to do that because you don't want people going haywire with all the information and creating all kinds of chaos for everybody.
So, yeah, some things definitely need to be under wraps.
However, a lot of things could be open.
You know, maybe our universities and colleges can start programs and education to, you know, better ourselves, you know, where we have more students studying this type of stuff and have it in a more open environment where it's not so shadowed, advanced us in our transportation systems, advanced us in energy, advanced us in lots of different things that we could use this technology for.
And so maybe that's what I believe that's indicating, you know.
Of course, we don't want to open source it.
We don't want, um, um, A random civilian just building bombs and stuff out of a.
Or any hostile adversary for that matter.
Or hostiles, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Great point.
And yes, I do think that obviously, and it says here advancement imperative for planetary survival, which I think is an interesting choice of words.
It's not human survival, it's not alien survival, it's planetary survival, which scares me a little bit because I think, you know, I always think that, yeah, okay, we eradicate ourselves, the planet will be just fine.
In fact, it'll probably be better off, you know, eventually.
Yeah.
But planetary survival is interesting.
Absolutely.
And I believe that goes back to nuclear weapons.
That's right.
That's very destructive.
We've done some very destructive things to ourselves and to our planet.
We don't take into consideration the environment and the impacts that it would have on our environment.
So I do believe that we need to be a little bit more cautious when we're developing things.
And consider our ecosystem and life because we're not the only ones here.
Yep.
And that is echoing exactly what every experiencer has ever been told by their abductors.
This is not uncommon that they also clearly believe it's imperative that we take care of this place for whatever reason for our survival, for theirs, for just a mutual benefit.
Right.
And it could just have a double meaning.
That's right.
Could this mean that we are getting out of hand and we might find ourselves threatened by a foreign entity or a foreign adversary?
You know, that's not from our planet.
So, yes, it could have several different meanings behind it.
All citizens as well.
This is everyone.
Yeah.
Okay.
So this is the first.
Already we're seeing the technical sort of advanced version of this binary come into play here as multiple codes.
This is like some Da Vinci code stuff.
This is like a puzzle.
It's insane.
And you love puzzles.
I love puzzles.
This is absolutely a puzzle.
This is my favorite puzzle ever.
Right.
Now we get into the second message.
Now, Let me pull this up here.
Let me get back here to where I was.
The second message, October.
This is October to January 2016.
Now, there are multiple messages here that combine to make this.
Right.
And I'm just going to go ahead and read the first message, not the decoded versions, because there are again sub messages within the messages.
Right.
This is where, oh, by the way, before I actually get to this, Dr. Drew pointed out something really, really fascinating with the crop circles.
Oh, yes.
Right.
So, and this relates mostly to that first message.
If we look at specifically, there is a crop circle.
There are a few crop circles, but there was the well known Arecibo reply.
So, in 2001, a crop formation appeared inside the Chill Bolton Observatory that many believe mirrors a reply to the 1974 Arecibo radio message.
The symbolic signal designed by Frank Drake with help of Carl Sagan and Linda Saltzman Sagan, and transmitted from the Arecibo Observatory.
That original signal described basic human biology, DNA, and our location in the solar system, and the Chil Bolton formation appeared to mimic the same digital structure, but obviously with some key differences, including biology and where they were located in their star system.
One year later in 2002, another unsettling formation appeared at Crabwood.
Showing the face of what many described as a gray alien beside a disk of spiral binary, revealing the warning Beware the bearers of false gifts and their broken promises.
Much pain, but still time.
Believe.
There is good out there.
We oppose deception.
Conduit closing.
Then in 2015, a massive binary style formation appeared again near Turin, echoing the same warning style layout and reinforcing the pattern people had already noticed, along with the Latin phrase.
Timio et Ferentes.
I fear those who bear gifts.
So in 2002, there's this message that pops up with this beautiful work of art of what seems to be like a gray alien.
Three dimensions.
Yeah.
It has a pupil.
Right.
Right.
Which normally you don't see.
And we'll get to that in a second.
Right.
Which I found very interesting.
You then have this massive circle that has all these dots that seems to be some type of encoded message.
And then you have these three sort of lights that kind of represent Orion's belt.
Which, again, for many reasons, is very fascinating.
And the message translates to beware the bearers of false gifts and their broken promises.
And it shows the Orion constellation and it shows these sort of grays or whatever.
And now we have your message, which says, beware of Orion.
Now, there's two things here that say beware, and they're both picturing Orion.
I don't think that's a coincidence.
I think that's.
That's what's so confusing for me is there's so many similarities with so many different things that they require more in depth look.
Yeah.
And so that's where I get intrigued is how so many different things line up with others.
It really throws you back.
It lines up with what Bob Lazard was talking about too.
With, you know, when he was briefed in those documents, it said that the craft and the beings.
The kids, as he refers to them as, were from Zeta Reticuli.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
So, and then obviously, Zeta Reticuli pops up the first time we ever hear about it.
Not the first time we hear about it, but the first time we see a diagram was from Betty and Barney Hill.
Betty Hill was shown this diagram of like this star map and she drew it.
Okay.
And then it was lined up years later.
Once we discovered this binary star system, that it kind of matched Zeta, the Zeta constellation kind of perfectly.
Oh, wow.
So there is something really important about that.
I don't know what it is, but clearly it seems like we're warned about it.
Right.
All right.
This brings us to our next message.
And I'm sorry I'm droning on here, but I really want to drive it home to the viewers.
There's a lot of information here.
Oh, absolutely.
And so I'm sorry if I'm taking up a lot of the airspace, guys.
I'm just kind of running you through this.
I could talk for hours.
Yeah.
This is endlessly fascinating to me.
Right.
So the next message here.
Reads as follows Imminent threat soon upon Earth's leaders and civilizations, right?
There's a bit of a deviation there.
Yeah, deviation.
We can assume it's civilizations.
Expose and disband hidden knowledge to all citizens, once again.
Employ safe and controlled joint study to all minds.
Progression imperative for joint, for combined survival.
So, in this particular text, one word that stands out to me right up top is the word imminent.
Now, where have we heard that before?
Right.
Lou Elizondo's.
Lou Elizondo, yes.
Do you think that that title is a reference to this in some way?
I'm unsure.
I mean, it's one word.
I'm sure it's been used many times by others.
I don't know if it came to him.
Do you think Lou was aware of this?
I'm not sure if he was.
That I don't know.
I worked with Linda pretty exclusively for quite a while.
So, I mean, there's a possibility that he may have known about it or he may not have.
I really don't know.
I mean, it's just one word.
True.
But it's impactful.
You know, it's another similarity, you know, kind of thing.
Yeah.
So I'm a little bit curious, but, you know, one's only to assume.
Yeah.
And then again, expose and disband hidden knowledge to all citizens.
Again, all citizens expose hidden knowledge.
And this time they put disband in there as well.
Expose, disband.
Yeah.
So, yeah, when I think about that, you know, I have a military mind, you know, and we don't want to put out weapon systems to, All citizens, you know, because we don't want all civilians building weapon systems in their garages and creating chaos.
And we have, we, you know, there's many incidents where somebody's mind just snaps and they want to shoot up a mall or school or something.
So, yeah, I believe there needs to be some restraint on some things.
So, yeah, I think that falls into the category of disband, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That would make a lot of sense.
You don't want to expose all of that.
But what can be beneficial for us is transportation, medical, other things Other things such as that.
Employ safe and controlled joint study to all minds.
Once again, safe and controlled.
Yeah.
It makes sense to me.
Progression imperative for combined survival.
What do you think they mean by that?
So, in my mind, when I think of combined survival, is maybe we're not the only country that has black projects and study things.
I'm sure there's a race involving behind this that's kind of in the back, in the shadows.
Like a nuclear race type deal or a technological race?
Just like a race to the moon, a race for nuclear weapons, a race for.
I'm sure there's a race going on in the background to develop these systems and be able to travel quicker, faster, get from point A to point B quicker.
More effectively.
So, I'm sure there's some background stuff going on that other countries are doing as well.
And so, maybe I think that's a reference to maybe some of these things should be brought to light.
Is that an educated guess?
Just an educated guess.
You know, that's just my military minds are thinking.
Okay.
So, yeah, I mean, we have the United Nations for a reason.
You know, why not all of us come together and start sharing some information?
For some of these things, not all of these things, but for some of these things.
Yeah, trashing nukes too, while we're at it.
Eisenhower Decisions Revealed00:08:15
Let's get rid of those things because apparently they're just causing nothing but chaos.
We all agreed we're not going to use them.
We can't use it.
It was a why have them.
Exactly.
Let's get rid of them all and let's focus on other things.
Hear, hear.
100,000 likes in this video and we'll get rid of the nukes.
Absolutely.
No more nukes.
I think we can all agree.
I think I'm on board with that one.
That's something you know, you'd be left, right, you could be wherever you want.
Let's get rid of those things, man.
Those things are trash.
Um, Okay, now we get into in this paragraph, there are some things that stand out.
And the first one that stands out to me is the word Eisenhower.
That's kind of crazy.
Yeah.
What do you know about Eisenhower?
I know very little about it.
It was before my time.
So I don't know much.
I know he was a military man prior to becoming a president.
That's about as much knowledge I have on Eisenhower.
And then under that, there's Majestic.
What do you know about that?
Yeah, I Googled that.
There's, I guess, some other things going on with, I believe it was like Majestic 12 or something, some sort of secret government program.
I don't know anything about that.
I'm sure it probably does exist.
Who knows?
Maybe it doesn't.
Maybe it's something somebody thought up.
Yeah.
But I have no knowledge.
So when you got that information back from Dr. Drew, Did he fill you in on what Majestic was, or did you like take it upon yourself to like, I'm going to Google this and figure it out?
He brought it up to me and kind of gave me a rundown of what it entails.
And then I did a Google search after and tried to get some of my own information and my own interpretations.
But I really can't speak upon that because I don't know much about it besides what I've read, you know, through social media and Google things like that.
And what I've learned from others.
So I'm not really familiar with.
That stuff.
It is interesting that in the first part where it says, imminent threat soon upon Earth's leaders and civilizations exposed and dismantled hidden knowledge to all citizens, in that you find the word Eisenhower.
Wow.
In those two lines, right?
So we have like a specific reason Eisenhower was brought up with these two first lines the imminent threat, the leaders of civilizations, obviously, and then hidden knowledge, expose all hidden knowledge to maybe some message for Eisenhower or to let you know that, hey, he has the answer.
He was given this information.
Like maybe he was part of, maybe he was part of Najestic 12.
Well, that's, or 19, yeah, 1954, 52 or 50, I think 52, maybe 54, but I think 52.
There is a document that came out, the Eisenhower briefing, which allegedly he was briefed by, I think, was it General Twining or might have been Forrestal that basically briefed him about the crash that had happened in Roswell.
And multiple others, and kind of told them we need to band together and create some type of group that can disseminate this information to the public and then can control what we found.
And so they've got together 12 of the most powerful minds in various sectors from sciences to biology and everything in between, politics and whatnot, and formed this majestic 12, so to speak.
And even we see the majestic.
Verbiage or at least abbreviation still being used in 1989 by Bob Lazar on his patch where it said, you know, Majestic Clearance or MAJ.
And so then on the second part, we have Employee Safe and Control Joint Study to All Minds Progression Imperative.
And there we have the word Majestic.
Right.
And then IL, oh, that's a little bit later, I think, or is that here?
No, ILI, which could be 52.
And that 52 was like the DC flyover, you know.
And if you look at even the, The are you familiar with Beatrice V. Royale?
That name doesn't ring a bell.
So she's a brilliant astronomer.
She basically had a peer reviewed paper recently showing these transient lights that appeared on these plates that date back to 1952.
Okay.
And when comparing them with today's skies, those lights aren't there.
And so, and then they found out this happens like in the Earth's shadow or whatever, like basically proving that there are these.
Without a shadow of a doubt, there are reflective objects prior to us having satellites in space that were there.
And we have proof of that.
And she just put out this peer reviewed paper, which is incredible and pretty much disclosure, in my opinion.
But what I found interesting is that during the flyover, the exact day of the flyover, you have these transients in the sky there as well.
So, another that's pretty wild.
Yeah.
Another fun connection.
Okay.
Lots of connections.
Dude, this is blowing my mind right now.
Yeah.
And going back to the 12.
Yep.
That's it's so wild to think about that the government behind closed doors are 12 individuals deciding things for us that we have no oversight of.
That's pretty scary, too, when I think about it.
That number's probably grown.
Yeah, it's probably not 12 anymore.
No.
Probably close to 27.
No oversight, making decisions for everybody.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm hoping that they make good decisions.
Yeah.
They make good decisions for us.
But yeah.
I don't know.
We didn't elect them.
No, exactly.
We didn't elect them.
Okay.
We get to the next message here.
And we're going to pace ourselves through these if that's fine.
Absolutely.
Embrace this.
And then it says space in parentheses.
And I don't know if that's just a liberty from Dr. Drew, but embrace this vessel threat.
Zero, zero, zero.
Journey.
And then in brackets, 12.
And then LYs and light years.
Ike's embedded citizens are ready.
Ike being another reference to Eisenhower.
Right.
And his embedded citizens are ready.
I don't even, we'll get to that.
And then disclose, evolve, and then a bunch of ones one, What do you make of that message?
Most of it's pretty baffling to me.
It could be interpreted in several different ways.
I mean, uh You got to keep in mind that this is what I'm writing when I wake up.
You know, so I'm not fully coherent being woke, I don't know, waking up to this and writing it down.
So it is still throwing me back that, you know, I'm half awake and writing these things down and they're making, they have meaning behind them.
And so it's a lot to digest, you know.
Yeah.
For one person to digest a bit.
So, I mean, I look at things and I have to do it in small sections.
Yeah.
And really think about things in small sections to really have a thought on it.
And some of it is just, you know, it's just kind of out of my realm, to be honest with you.
So, some of this, some of this is, I don't know what the meaning is behind it.
I just kind of take it as it is.
That's so wild, man.
Yeah.
Feeling Singled Out00:10:50
You know, it'd be one thing if I was sitting here with somebody who's like, You know, on Discord all day talking about aliens and like, you know, doing research like me or something, but you're none of that.
You're not really involved in any of that, are you?
No, no.
You know, I relatively live a pretty private life.
I do play a phone game and I do have a Discord associated with that phone game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, you know, my Discord that I'm on are roughly about, you know, my.
King's Throne Alliance.
Yeah.
Clash of Clans or whatever it is.
Yeah.
You know, it's my, it's my, you know, the alliance that I'm part of and we discuss game stuff.
I mean, you're not talking about aliens with anybody.
Not really.
I mean, that's not a common conversation piece.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah.
We share things and vacations and things that we go on.
People buy a new car, new truck, and they discuss things like that.
Or, but generally, we discuss things within our little group and what we're doing on the game and how to improve and, Beat the other alliance and you're not a UFO researcher, is what I'm asking.
No, okay, no, that's you know, that's something that needs to be made clear here.
You're not a UFO, you've maybe become somewhat of a researcher because I think anyone would over time, yes.
And then over you know, um, after this, then yes, I start to watch some more videos and try to get some clarity and understanding with what's happening with me, um, and and and look for you know, people who have gone through some similar thing.
To help me identify myself with other people out there, because you kind of feel alone and in the dark.
You feel very singled out.
I guess in my mind frame, I feel very singled out.
I feel alone, but I know just after a little bit of research that other people have gone through some similar things and that provides a little bit of comfort.
For me to deal with.
But in the beginning, yeah, Linda will tell you it's a little bit scary.
I felt a little scared in the beginning part.
And it takes a lot of courage for me to say that because I'm usually not afraid of anything.
I don't care how big the guy is.
I'll take him on.
I don't care.
I might get my butt whipped, but he's going to feel me the next day.
I mean, I'm just that type of person.
But when it comes to things like this, where things you don't have any control over, that's what I guess that was brings out my fear a little bit.
Yeah, something else is kind of in control a little bit.
Right.
Yeah.
It's unsettling.
Okay.
I mean, it's all pretty self evident here.
Embrace this vessel threat.
I don't know what that means.
Journey 12 light years.
Your guess is as good as mine.
You know, might be something 12 light years away, something's on its way.
When I think of this, there may be some other vessel out there that's monitoring us.
And when it describes threat, you know, that tells me that we.
We could be threatened or we could have a threat, you know, at some point.
When I think about that, it also brings back some thought that we need to evolve quicker.
I mean, why do we need to advance and evolve quicker?
Is it because there's a threat?
Yeah, it's a lot to wrap your brain around.
Yeah.
I mean, there's the word threat there.
There's definitely a word threat.
It's not no avoiding that.
And Ike's embedded citizens are ready.
I don't even know what to do with that.
Is that, are we talking about hybrids here?
Are we talking about some type of genetically altered beings that live among us that he agreed to?
Like, I mean, it's, you can extrapolate so much from, you know.
Yeah, absolutely.
And then in red and blue, you have MAG 12 and then CIA and a CIA, you know.
Happens to be in the Ike's embedded citizens already.
And that's where the.
So that's maybe where the government maybe have created some sort of group or organization around that time.
And maybe the CIA was involved in it.
You know, I mean, we don't know.
I mean, the FBI, CIA could have been involved in it in the beginning and it morphed into something different.
Yeah.
You know, which ended up being Majestic 12 or a whole different other.
You know, shadowed group.
All right.
And finally, for this bit of transmission, because there are many more.
There are several.
Yeah.
Quite a bit.
We'll get into a few of them.
Right.
But right now, to end this one, it says Royal Emurthyr warning, Emurthyr in capital, expose foreign technology to all evolutionary advancement needed to prevent takeover.
Expose foreign technology to all evolutionary advancement needed to prevent takeover.
Takeover.
Right.
I mean, okay, first of all, Emurthur seemed to be the race here that we're dealing with.
Royal Emurthur warning.
Emurthur is confusing me because I've never heard of this before.
And I had to do a lot of Google researching to see what I can come up with what Emurthur means.
And the only thing that I was able to find out, and this was with the help of Linda, was like at some point in our past, we had met with some sort of Emurthur.
Some sort of alien species that referred to themselves as a merther.
What royal means, I'm not sure because, you know, if they're an advanced alien species, I think the times of royalness would have been way in the past, you know, like they've advanced way beyond that.
I mean, we still have royal families, you know, that are living on different countries and such.
So, I mean, yeah, we still have those aspects of things.
You think that would be done away with?
You think that would be gone, but, you know, but also.
It's perceived, or maybe the royal was like some sort of symbology or meaning that it should be taken more seriously, you know?
Like maybe this is a metaphor for something more serious.
Yeah.
The taking like higher ups within the.
Royally important.
Of importance, you know, of this particular species.
Yeah.
You know, group or how they determine things.
Or maybe, you know, leaders, you know, within their, within their, their, uh, yeah, maybe it's just how they refer to species.
Yeah.
Um, but we do still use the term majestic, which is very close to, yeah, royalty, you know, her majesty.
Right.
And so that's still, I think there's a lot of symbology.
There is a lot of, some type of like tie in to, to this.
Yeah.
And then, yeah.
So, I mean, that is very enigmatic to say the least.
Now, I'd like to get into we're going to segue.
Segue.
Yeah.
From this little ditty here and all of these incredible messages that were deciphered that you had simply doodled on a paper, followed by WTF.
And then they got deciphered into this incredible message here that, you know, if it has any significance, is extremely concerning, if not just for a wake up call, but can be, you know, I mean, it said the last paragraph says evolutionary advancement needed to prevent takeover.
Right.
What are we talking about here?
What's your sense on that?
Yeah, that's that would be a little scary to me because, you know, we'd like to live our lives comfortably and.
Go to work, come home, spend time with our family.
So anything that involves any kind of takeover, that's a warning to me.
I take that as a warning, some type of way.
And yeah, I don't want to be taken over.
I don't think anyone would want to be taken over.
So yeah, I perceive that as a warning in some fashion.
And that we're kind of working with them is what I get from this too.
Like that at least one group here that seems to be like, hey, we need your help.
Right.
Because otherwise, why even tell us about it?
Right.
They're probably trying to recruit us for something or be like, hey, wake up.
We need to like come together and like, we need you guys to hurry up and evolve.
Absolutely.
So you can help us out with this imminent threat soon upon Earth's leaders and civilizations.
Right.
So, you know, I consider myself a deep thinker.
I look at things from many different angles.
And when I do that and I look at history, I. There's a lot of indications.
There's a lot of indications that this has been going on for thousands and thousands of years.
I mean, I believe it was going on with the Egyptians, ancient Egypt.
I believe it was going on in Easter Island.
I believe it's been going on in Peru.
And there are several different locations all across our planet That point out and indicate some advanced technology, some advanced proof that they've been associated with us throughout time.
So, I do believe that not only do we have several different species that have been interacting with us throughout all of history, I also believe that as some of these cases, some of these things that have been happening could be.
Future Versions Hypothesis00:04:04
In fact, future versions of ourselves, visiting ourselves, you know, from.
What gives you that impression?
What gives me that impression is that I don't have any proof of.
Any concrete evidence, but just.
Yeah, I don't have any concrete evidence.
It's just some of the things that I've read and seen online just indicate more or less that we are.
Maybe in the future we developed a version of.
Time travel and we visited our ancient selves, which would be us right now.
And to try to help guide us into a better future, you know, in some way, in some fashion.
So, man, I wouldn't, I would not put that past that we are sometimes seeing future versions of ourselves mixed in with all these different other alien species.
That makes sense.
So, there is, you know, we talked about this over dinner a little bit yesterday, but like if you were to send back information in time, I think it would look like binary.
It would look like binary.
Because if you were able to take photons and sort of, you know, flip them from, you know, these particles, flip them from positive to negative, you know, over a distance, over an infinite distance, because they're entangled on a quantum level, they would instantly flip on the other side of that.
But not only through distance, but through time, because it's quantum and time, you know, these things aren't beholden to time or space.
So, you could essentially, and maybe I'm talking out of my ass here, but I feel like you could sort of suspend these quantum bits or whatever in one orientation in space and time at this very place, wait a bunch of years, and they'll be there for you when you get to over there.
At this point in time.
Yeah, at this point in space and time.
And then you can just manipulate them, and they would automatically change them back then too, because they're entangled.
And so you'd be essentially able to communicate through time using like photonic, you know, communication in a way.
Photons are very impressive.
And yes, they, The way they operate is quite fascinating.
However, with lasers and things such as that, photons do dissipate over vast distances.
So, I mean, like when we're studying solar systems and stars, the further the star is away from us, the dimmer the light is.
And sometimes you can't see it with the naked eye.
You have to use sensors and many different things to be able to draw.
Or to be able to pick up that light, but that light dissipates over time.
The photons dissipate, but they also have the ability to move around and go through things.
So, yeah, I don't think we fully understand photons very well.
And I think we probably should, you know, look into that further.
But there is some benefits, but yeah.
And it would make sense with the sort of future human hypothesis, at least.
Right.
When you look at Jim Peniston or you look at a case like yours where.
Information needs to be given to you.
And the only way to do that in a coherent manner, you know, maybe using these binary impressions or whatever that are kind of like quantumly suspended in space time and just being like, here, I don't know, maybe that's all science fiction, but, you know, here we are.
I'd like to go back now to June 29th and your encounter.
Mostly Female Voices00:02:14
Okay.
You have since then recalled more information through dreams that you've had.
Right, right.
And through other experiences that you've had subsequently.
The messages have also since evolved into different lettering, now voices, also impressions, dreams.
Like you're, the transmissions haven't stopped.
Correct.
They've gone on consistently.
Oh, they've slowed down.
They've slowed down for a while.
They continue.
They slowed down quite a bit.
So I was getting the boxes and lines several years ago.
And then they kind of shifted to lettering, capitalization, and lowercase.
And then that was only for a very short period of time.
And then they've evolved into I'm hearing the voices.
I'm hearing voices.
I'm hearing messages.
Male or female?
Mostly female, but sometimes male.
Mostly female.
Mostly female, sometimes male.
What is the tone of voice?
Is it stern?
Is it happy?
Is it calm?
The tone has been.
For the most part, pretty calm and at times stern with the female voices.
Sometimes the male voices have been informative and comforting, but can get stern at times, just with tone.
But it's for the most part, I want to say never overly aggressive, never overly friendly.
No extremes.
No extremes, just mild subtleties.
Okay.
I mean, it's more or less just informative.
Can you give me an example of what that would sound like if a male voice were to, if you were to interpret verbatim what one of these messages were?
Can you give me a small example of what that would sound like to my ears?
Yeah.
I mean, anybody could.
I mean, it's just talking to Siri.
Really?
It's very similar, just not with such high fluctuations of excitement.
Siri's super excited about everything.
Everything, but you know, you tone that down quite a bit, and it's just you know, just informational, regular informational.
Felt Weightless Sensation00:15:15
The sky is blue, like that type of deal.
The sky is blue, and just subtly, very subtly.
Wow, that's got to be a whole other thing that freaks you out.
Well, that mixed with images, mixed with going back to the first time.
Since then, I'm had I told you, you know, over dinner the other night.
That I've had some more dreams based on that night.
Not a lot, just a few.
And all it is is just remembering a point in time that I wasn't aware of when it happened.
And that was my driver's side door was open and I was being pulled from my truck and I was being held.
And it was only a short flashback moment.
You know what I mean?
And in that flashback moment, Maybe it lasted eight to 11 seconds in that flashback moment.
But I clearly remember seeing my wife in the passenger seat almost frozen in time, still staring up at it.
You know, why I'm being pulled and struggling.
And why I'm struggling, I'm not seeing what I'm struggling with.
So I don't get a clear visual image of what I'm struggling with, of what I'm fighting with that's pulling me from the.
From my truck.
But I am seeing that I'm fighting and making noises and grunting.
And the whole time I'm struggling, I'm looking for help.
And so I'm seeing my wife sitting in the passenger seat, just basically frozen in time, looking up at what we were looking at.
And I remember like, help me.
But she's not moving.
She's.
Like literally frozen, and I'm being pulled away.
And as I'm pulled around the door, is where, and then start to pull, it disappears.
And then it reappears as I'm directly underneath it.
And I remember, I feel, I told you at dinner, right as I'm getting closer to it, that I cross like some sort of field where outside, when I was outside, you'd be hearing crickets and insects and stuff.
As soon as I crossed that first field, It goes dead silent and I feel it interacting with my body in some way.
And I can't write, I can't quite describe the feeling going through that first field.
I do clearly recognize that it got dead silent as soon as I crossed that first field.
And then I went into another field.
And when I crossed that second field as I was getting closer, that's when I began to feel more weightlessness.
And it was like a sudden, I felt more weightlessness and like I couldn't move fast, but it felt weightless to me.
And so I clearly remember, you know, maybe seven seconds of that going through each field.
And that first field, it was like silence.
And the second field was weightlessness.
And then I feel maybe a few more seconds of tugging.
Like an electric charge?
Is that what this field felt like?
I kind of feel like an electric charge, but more or less like a.
I couldn't even put it in the words.
Slowing my reaction time down, slowing down my movements is the best way I could describe it.
But your head is still functioning at a normal rate.
I'm still looking around.
I'm just not able to whip my head around.
I'm able to.
Like moving through molasses or something.
Similar.
Yes.
Slowed motion, slowed physical motion.
Okay, is the best way I could describe it.
And then it disappears again.
And then I had the dream where I was on the table and I was surrounded.
It just goes back to that.
And I drew an image.
You have an image that I drew where it showed the species that was around us.
And in that picture, there was one that came in later and took this black contact out of its eye.
To get a better look at me of some, this is the impression that I got.
Okay.
So you're, let's take this step by step.
You're coming into the craft.
Now, all of a sudden, you've appeared on the table, right?
This is the memories flashing.
Right.
Can you, are you seeing the walls of the craft at all?
Are you seeing any shapes?
Right.
I am, I'm able to see the walls.
I'm able to see things around me.
What do the walls look like?
What do they?
That's difficult because I wasn't staring at the walls.
My focus was on what are these things?
Okay, fair.
How did my clothes get removed?
So you're naked?
Yes.
You're naked on a hard surface?
It wasn't a hard surface.
I felt weightless.
You felt weightless?
I felt weightless, but slowed reaction time, slowed motion.
Yeah, like my motion.
My motion's like if I was going to punch the air, I could do it fast.
But In that environment, I was punching and it was going slower.
And the power is still there, but it was, it felt slowed.
And at one point, I do remember shoving the one off to my left pretty hard and it went back and hit the wall.
And I remember the wall was, I didn't see any grooves or cuts or anything like it was pieced together.
I couldn't quite tell what, I mean, because I wasn't really focused on the wall.
I mean, I know there was a wall there.
I know it seemed smooth.
I know it seemed like it had some sort of, Almost like if you were looking at a motherboard, slightly.
Okay.
Very similar.
Motherboard without any electronic components attached to it.
You know, like it's got, it's got, it's got all the little circuitry, circuitry in there, but without any of the components attached.
Sure.
That's the way I could describe.
And it was faint.
And so, and that's just going off of like split second, like, you know, images.
And I was more focused on what was happening.
So, you got two to your side, and then you got two down by your feet.
Correct.
And can you describe physically, height, skin tone, complexion, what they look like for the audience?
Yeah.
Well, they're all roughly around the same size.
They were not the exact same size.
There were, I believe, two or three that were focused on their tasks.
We're not associating my emotions with anything.
They were just focused on doing what they were supposed to be doing.
There was a one that was down by my foot that seemed a little bit older, had some age behind its appearance, but was also trying to do its best to keep me calm.
I was kind of freaking out.
And so it was trying to calm me down.
You know, and make me relax or something.
The others just seemed like they were focused on their tasks.
Like, this is what they do all the time.
They're used to this.
They showed very little emotion.
The only one that did was the one that looked a little bit older.
Right.
Like the one that was in charge, or maybe the one.
He seemed like an individual, like one that studied emotions and feelings or has been studied emotions and feelings, or maybe.
I mean, I have no idea what.
Position this one had other than that, it was trying to relax me and calm me down because I was feeling like some sharp pains in my back and along my neck.
I was fine, but I would feel like electric pain, stabbing pain, like stabbing pain mixed with electricity, like shocks and jolts in my neck and my back.
And so, yeah, I remember that.
And I remember the one that came in after, took the contact out to look at me.
We took it out.
Did he peel it?
No, just popped it out.
Just popped out.
It was like rubber or something.
It was like some sort of filament.
I was under the impression that maybe it was some sort of computer system.
Silicone.
That had some imagery or some.
User interface.
Technology that can maybe see in our environments.
See a different spectrum.
Spectrum of light, maybe.
This happened at night.
Maybe it.
Was amplifying the darkness so that it could pull me from the truck.
Like maybe this was one that was pulling me from the truck.
And his eye color?
He had blue.
He had blue eyes.
Was it deep blue, dark blue, light blue?
It looked natural, like human.
Yeah.
Human blue.
But the eyes were much larger.
Yeah.
Much larger.
How big would you say?
I would say two to three times.
So it's.
Have you ever read the.
The biology report of a guy who claimed that he worked on these beings?
No, I did not.
Okay, this might be interesting for you then.
I'm ready for that.
I'm not going to go through the whole thing, but I will send you.
I made a whole video on it.
Okay.
But I will touch on what he said about the eyes.
Okay.
Because he goes through, and maybe I'll go through the head and the ear here, but he goes through the brain, the fingers, it's a whole biology, and he breaks it all down.
He said he worked on them.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
And he goes, like, the head contains two large, oversized eyes.
Two nostrils without protuberance, a narrow mouth without lips, two ear canals without auricles, and there is a mandible, but the musculature is vestigial.
There are no teeth, no tongue in the oral cavity, nasal cavity where the nostrils meet, yada, yada, yada.
The eye, this is really interesting.
Like the skin, the eyes are covered with a semi transparent biosynthetic film that offers the same environmental protection while providing protection against certain wavelengths and light intensity.
When the film is removed, a more traditional eye is revealed.
It's about three times larger than a human eye, and there are no eyelids.
The size of their eyes suggests they have excellent night vision.
It seems paradoxical to cover them with a semi opaque film.
And he says semi opaque.
Right.
This is something that I found extremely interesting because normally when we picture these grays, we think dark black eyes.
Right.
Here, and that might only be because it's nighttime when you see them.
But here he says semi opaque.
So not completely blacked out.
You don't want blind.
Is that what you saw?
It appears black at nighttime.
At nighttime.
But when you looked at the other ones, could you see their eyes behind?
There were.
I wasn't focused on their eyes.
I was focused on this is hurting.
What the hell is going on to me?
I was in fight mode.
Fair enough.
So he peeled away his eye to have a closer look at you.
That's what I noticed when he.
When this pulled its contact, or this, I associate it with a contact, pulled this dark contact out of his eye, I could tell it was a normal eye, just much larger.
And it says here their sclera is the same color as their skin.
The iris is pale gray in this one particular.
Okay.
And the pupil is black and oversized.
The lens is rounder than a human, and the musculature used to adjust focus is more developed.
Yeah.
So.
I'll send you this.
It's awesome.
That's cool.
Isn't that wild?
It is kind of the only other time that I've heard.
You mentioned their ear canal.
Oh, yeah.
Not ears.
I drew what I saw.
You don't see ears on these.
I see like a lump or some sort of ridge, but not a defined ear, just more like a canal.
I noticed that too.
I'll send you this file and I'd love for you to just maybe go through it and have a read because it is quite extensive.
And in my opinion, It rings pretty true.
My conviction level on that being true is up there around 80%.
I'm pretty high conviction on that, but only because there are many, many, many.
He's a credible microbiologist, molecular biologist, but also, like, I mean, in the technical terms, I've had molecular biologists be like, yeah, he's definitely a guy that knows his stuff, but also, like, he mentions things like the skin and it's filled with tons of pores.
Okay.
And that they kind of secrete their excrement.
Through their skin.
Okay.
That's how their digestive tract works.
And it gives it like a.
Do you remember a smell on board at all?
I remember a smell, but it was very similar to the way a hospital smells like a static, sterile, and clean, sterile.
Yeah.
Okay.
And I remember them wearing some type of metallic.
It was mildly metallic, but also had different shimmers and colors associated with what they were wearing along their body.
Form fitting?
Form fitting.
Yeah.
Almost like they were like a.
Put in front of her screen, and the clothing was designed to fit them perfectly, kind of thing.
And move and stretch with their bodies.
Yeah, no wrinkles or anything.
No wrinkles, nothing to snag on something.
It seemed like a suit to be worn while you're repairing electronics.
You don't want your clothing to snag on electronics and damage the things that you're trying to repair.
That's an Interesting observation.
Um, were they communicating with you at this point?
Um, just the one at the end, and it seemed more telepathic.
Just and I just got, you know, I didn't get actual words, I was getting the feeling, um, the telepathic feeling, and her emotions relax, calm down, everything's okay, you're gonna be all right.
You know, that's the that's what I was receiving from the one at the end, the old one that looked older to me.
Dreams and Telepathy00:09:09
Um, Any other impressions that they were giving you?
In this particular situation, no.
Okay.
No.
And I don't remember being, I haven't had any flashbacks or memories of being put back in my truck.
Sure.
I had a moment where I was being pulled from the table.
And I remember seeing the floor, and the floor was just solid, like solid off white color.
I didn't see any dirt or debris on the floor.
But then it vanished.
That's all I got was a little bit pulled.
From where I was being held on this almost weightless table to seeing the floor, and then, yeah, nothing since then.
Okay.
Was this your only run in?
No, no, this was not my only run in.
I had several very, extremely vivid dreams of being on their vessel another time, too, or several other times, actually.
Where it wasn't just the tall grays or a merther.
There were smaller ones, smaller grays, and there was a very short female, long hair that didn't look like the grays at all.
They looked like a totally different species.
Just, uh, and very, uh, what's the word I'm looking for?
Um, very normal looking, such as if you take a normal, um, six foot man and you just shrank them down to three feet.
Proportionate is the word I'm looking for.
Very proportionate, uh, to their body weight and size and height, like a normal person would look, just shrunken to about three, three and a half feet.
Wow.
Um, there were several of them and, uh, This goes to another situation that I had mentioned to you last night as well, where my wife and I both had an identical dream the very same night.
We had an identical dream where we are both in an environment that's under attack, or something's attacking this small community or town where there's a few high rise buildings, like six, seven stories, and some of these high rises were collapsed.
Where I was at, where she was at was a little bit further away.
And she was with another female running for cover and trying to get away from this.
I was in a, what I remember is being in like a store hiding behind some shelves while the attack was going on.
And when the attack seemed to slow down, I came out like a lot of other people did.
And there was this destroyed.
Structure building where they were pulling people out that were still alive.
They're trying to rescue people.
And I remember running over to help.
And I helped one person out.
And then another female came out, but she was completely nude.
And I was helping her out.
And she had no sense of embarrassment, no sense of notion that she was nude.
It was going to affect anything.
Not trying to hide herself, just acting completely natural, like it's normal for her to be completely nude.
And I was helping her out.
And then I remember some chaos happening off to my right, and some more attacks were coming.
So I was helping her over the last concrete pillar that she was climbing over.
And we ran together.
And where I was at before, in like this little shop, Was now collapsed.
So I ran past it and further down the road into like a small house.
And I ran with her there.
And what's odd is my wife was dreaming that she was in a different structure and running to another house.
But in the distance, she can see another house.
But what the other house that she can see in the distance of her dream was the house that I was running into.
And she clearly remembered seeing two people running into it.
And so what's odd is we both had the same dream.
Of the same thing happening.
But a different place.
But we're in different places.
Whoa.
While it's happening.
And so that was pretty wild that we woke up and we're talking about it together.
Like, oh my God, that's exactly what I dreamed, but I was in a different location.
And we were sharing the information.
It was pretty wild.
It's pretty.
Yeah, I would consider that wild.
But the thing is, you refer to these as dreams.
I refer to them as dreams because they happen when I'm sleeping.
Sure.
So I don't want to misguide anyone.
No, of course.
I want to be 100% transparent and honest.
And when they happen to me while I'm sleeping and I wake up and I can remember them as if they actually happened the day before, like they happen vividly.
I can remember grabbing rock and touching the floor.
I can remember smells.
I can remember how things feel on my skin.
I can remember wind or breeze on my face.
So, I mean, these aren't just dreams where all of the other senses are void.
These are dreams where I'm feeling and smelling and hearing and experiencing with all my senses.
That's what's happening.
And so that's what makes it more visceral and right.
Well, some of these dreams you've come back with injuries.
Yes.
And so that's where I. You know, we've got some we say dreams, but my dreams don't leave strange, symmetrical marks on my body, correct?
Correct.
Um, now, these other dreams where you had these markings, um, and if you'd like, we can pull them up.
Yeah, we can pull up the here's some images here.
The first one here, this is on your thigh.
These are three, this is an equilateral triangle, what looks to be with three marked bruises.
Yeah, perfectly, um, identical, identical distance between each one.
You measured them, yes.
And well, I mean, just with a basic, yeah, you can, you can also see it.
It's like, what, yeah, it, where did this come from?
It looks crazy.
It's wild.
It's so wild.
Um, I mean, and that just makes these, these dream states so much more realistic for me.
You know what I mean?
What was that particular dream?
Do you remember that one?
I, I really don't.
Okay.
I, I really don't remember which one that happened with, to be honest.
I just wanted to take, I wanted to document, you know?
There was another one with my eye that's happened several times, actually.
That one is, you can clearly see like a, some type of symmetry, some type of like angular geometric shape in your eye.
Absolutely.
And it looks like a puncture.
And then a puncture.
Right.
And I'm not blind.
Dude, I got 20 20 vision.
So that is clearly a puncture.
Yes.
Yes.
What do you make of that?
Do you think that was done?
I don't know why that happened to me.
I don't know why I needed something jabbed in my eye.
You know, be honest with you.
And so that part frightens me a little bit.
I mean, like something can hurt me and harm me.
But, you know, I'm thankful that I can still use both my eyes and I have 20 20 vision.
So I'm, yeah, it's scary that it could happen, but it's comforting to know that I'm not blind in one eye.
You know what I mean?
Because with any injury, you know, we don't know how our bodies will handle those injuries.
Sure.
And we don't know.
You know, if this is a real injury or an upgrade or whatnot, right?
And when we're going, and as we progress later in our conversation, we can talk about a trip to the hospital with a issue later down the road.
Yes.
And we'll get to that as well.
Absolutely.
So let's go back to these quote unquote dreams.
You've had several where there are, like you said, other species.
Right.
Let's talk about some of these interactions because I'm, if anything, I'm just more fascinated by.
This facet of the phenomenon is the species, is the different species that we might be interacting with, and the ones that seemingly are cooperating in some sense.
There's some type of community of these beings working together, it seems like.
At any one point, were there more than two different types of species in the same room?
Yes.
Really?
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Right.
Were there ever any that looked like us?
Yes.
Okay.
Other than the little ones?
Two.
Really?
Yeah.
What did they look like?
So, and one of my dreams, there was a, uh, Or I keep saying dreams.
This is how I associate it.
So I will continue to say dreams because this is just a way to associate it.
So, and one of them, there were the tall grays, which I'm assuming would be the murthers, the small grays who I didn't have a whole lot of communication with.
It was a very mild telepathic and more along the lines of help guiding me around the ship, worker beasts walking around.
They're helping me walk around the ship kind of thing.
There were the small female.
They weren't all female.
There were some males that were much shorter than them.
I would say like six inches shorter.
And they seemed to have like a very, like a lack of intelligence.
Like they were meaningless to them.
Like their males were just used to do the heavy lifting.
They were nerfed.
Yeah, there was something.
It was odd.
It was like a dynamic that was completely different.
Women were in charge.
Women were in charge.
But I also found out later from a.
Previous dream that is something that happened on their planet that affected male DNA, that their offspring, the males either didn't survive childbirth or birthing, or, and that the ones that did just lacked the ability for creativity and knowledge and grasping that knowledge.
They're hard to train, hard to educate.
Like some sort of thing happened.
I don't know if it was a natural cosmic thing or if it was a war or something that took place that.
That damaged their DNA in some way where the males just either didn't survive, they were low in numbers, they lacked a lot of the ability to reproduce.
Yeah.
And that there wasn't enough educated males left to really help their own people.
And so the ones that were safeguarded from this, it seemed like.
To be the female side of the DNA was not affected.
And so I was under the impression that they're here to try to collect some DNA to help their community because they don't want to die out, you know, just like any living thing wants to continue to survive.
So I think it's more or less a survival instinct for them.
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That's wild.
Then there were talls, there were tall blondes.
That I didn't associate or didn't speak with.
Um, and they, what were they wearing?
I like colors, yeah, but like I didn't, I wasn't having conversations with them.
They seemed to be having conversations with the Marthers and doing things with them.
Um, but I recognized the both male and female, and there were several of them there's like six or seven of them just kind of doing their stuff in the distance.
They were about our height, if not taller, um, that resembled you know human beings as well as the small ones.
There was another one that was walking out as I was being, I was walking in, and I only catch a glimpse of this one.
But every time that I've had this vivid dream where I'm in associating with all of them, there's always one that's leaving the room that's a little bit more shy, shy from us, that's always leaving.
And it, you know, I'm only catching a glimpse of it.
It just kind of looks kind of like a, I don't know, ogre ish, almost similar to, have you ever watched Lord of the Rings?
And the who they're fighting all the time.
Oh, the orcs.
The orcs kind of thing.
Oh, wow.
Very, like, somewhat similar, a little bit more advanced and attire and things.
Sure.
Kind of resembling some similarities within that.
But it's, like I said, it's only a glimpse that I'm seeing every time of it leaving the room.
And I was under the impression that their appearance can be a little scary based on how they look, but it's, you know, them.
And it was these type of dreams that you would wake up and have markings on your body?
Correct.
Yeah.
Wow.
That is.
And again, you're laying down in these dreams?
No.
No, you're standing up.
The first encounter was when I was on the table.
But then you're just kind of.
And then several after I've been allowed to walk around and just kind of scope things out and check things out.
And I'm being guided by these small females and the small grays who don't communicate very much.
They're just there to kind of exist.
And they have a purpose and they're very intelligent.
Yeah.
But they, you know, it was like they deal with this stuff all the time.
So it's nothing routine, rude, very routine for them.
Whereas the small females, it didn't seem so very routine for them.
So they were a little bit more communicative than the others.
Wow.
The murthers, when they would communicate, anything they would say to you would be of vital importance or of great importance.
Importance.
Like they wouldn't speak unless it was important to say.
Right.
No small talk.
They didn't waste time with things.
It was just important.
Well, one thing that you did mention in the interview with Linda Moulton Howe was you had the impression that there was some type of council.
Right.
Can you talk about that a little bit more?
The Council of Five?
It was a feeling and almost like a telepathic, like, Communication that there were five that were part of this little group that I was associated with, and being where I was at with them, that there's the five of them were like their council.
Right.
Five of them, as in five races, five species.
Five species.
Okay.
Okay.
Whoa.
Yeah.
I mean, that's, and those you had a sense were benevolent, those were good.
They were good.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's good.
They're protecting us.
So, yeah, having some protection from others is a bit comforting.
Maybe it was just said to me to be comfortable, but I didn't pick up any hostilities per se or deception from them.
I did have an encounter with a human that was there as well and was a little agitated that I was present.
A human, human.
Human, human.
Yeah.
What was his role?
Or I'm unsure.
I was guided into the room.
And when this person saw me, this male saw me, was immediately like, Why is he here?
What's his purpose?
He's not with our group.
We're not.
And it was upset and like pointing at me.
And I'm like, I took it offensive and was like, Obviously, you can't do something that I can.
And was just more or less like, You're taunting me.
I'm going to taunt you back.
And then he turned and walked off.
Who was he talking to?
He was talking to the M. Arthur.
And was he wearing anything?
He was wearing like a jumpsuit, like a human jumpsuit.
Not like military.
It was blue, like dark navy.
Did he feel like he was military?
I got the impression it was military hairstyle, military appearance.
Yep.
Some higher up somewhere.
Maybe Secret Space Program or something.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Whoa.
Okay.
I recognize, I don't, I didn't recognize the person.
Yeah.
But I recognize his features as, as a human.
Yeah.
And his attitude and the way he spoke as a human.
So, yeah.
I don't want to, I don't want to call anybody out.
So I won't describe in detail what the appearance was.
Okay.
I don't want to divulge or, or, or threaten any, any other organization.
I don't, I'm not, I'm an American.
Right.
What are you saying?
Okay.
I love my country.
Was there, was there some feature on there that would have given away what department this guy would have worked for?
I'm just, just observing.
I could, you could tell.
I could tell.
Okay.
This was an American, an American department, one of the, one of the American departments in some capacity.
Some capacity.
Huh.
Whoa.
Okay.
But yeah, I don't want to describe this person in any kind of detail.
Just, it was another male.
Okay.
Interesting.
Well, that's interesting.
You're giving me puzzle pieces here.
So, I'm, pardon me if I'm trying to figure it out.
I understand.
I'm sure you do the same.
Okay.
So, I mean, this is all very fascinating to me.
And, you know, obviously for the listener, we're taking them through a whole journey here and we're going, you know, far beyond possibly what they're comfortable with.
And like we're talking about these things that are like dreams.
You're waking up, you're having markings on your body, clear markings on your body.
But now I want to get back to something a little more tangible again, a little more physical is you keep having messages.
Right.
And you receive in 2016, you start receiving messages.
Now, I wondered, you know, when I was reading about your case and when I was hearing about your case through Dr. Drew and watching your interview with Linda Mullen Howe, I was wondering why are these messages all in English?
That was always.
Same question I had for Jim Peniston.
Like, why English?
Why, you know, how, what about another language?
Or what about a language that we're not familiar with?
Like, that doesn't make, unless it was absolutely intended for you.
Which I believe it was.
Which I believe it was.
But otherwise, it wouldn't make sense.
Right.
Right.
I mean, if somebody's speaking to you in another language and you don't understand what they're saying, like, what are you going to walk away with?
Yeah, but maybe I'm saying maybe you intercepted some transmission that wasn't meant for you, was like my initial thought.
Like, maybe something like that could have happened.
Possibly.
Yes.
But then also later on, you were given pieces of information that you told me were very personal to you.
There were some translations that, yeah, it kind of affected me because I felt it was very personal per se to me.
And it was specific to you.
It seemed very specific to me with conversations with Alinda.
She'll tell you, it choked me up a little bit, but it also put me on a little bit of a defense where it, I don't want to take away from, uh, I don't want to take away from the experience, but at the same time, it just, it was a little bit profound.
And, you know, maybe later down the road, some of that more can come out.
But I don't know.
She'll tell you, I was a bit frightened by some of it.
And I mean, I didn't feel threatened or anything per se.
It was just more of an emotional response, you know.
Can you tell me what it had to do with?
It had to do with some translations referring to me as being a.
Kind of a messenger or something.
Okay.
But I don't want to associate myself with being a messenger or some sort of prophet or anything.
Yeah.
Because that's completely against who I am as a person.
Yeah.
You know, and we are all individuals.
We are all fascinating individuals.
Every one of us, all of your listeners, everyone out there is a fascinating person, you know, and I don't want to take away, um, Or project myself as being something that I don't feel that I am.
You know what I mean?
Sure.
And so, yeah, it was describing me as like, I have an ability to perceive things that several others can't seem to do or can't evolve in a way where the messages can be received well.
Yeah.
And I believe that it was referring to, this is after some great time thinking about it, that maybe it was just.
It was just a metaphor or speaking to me in a fashion that I'm able to do something that many others can't.
And that I believe that I'm able to receive the information and coherently speak about it afterwards.
Yeah, you're a decoder.
Yeah, like a decoder, but, you know, I, yeah.
And so it bothers me a little bit because I don't want to be.
It's a lot of responsibility.
Yeah, I don't want to be put up as some sort of.
Sure.
You know.
But on the other hand of that.
Yeah.
You know, there is, I think, some importance to at least divulge some of that information.
What you're doing here today, I think, is really brave.
Right.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And I think we're all messengers in some way.
Yeah.
But I do think it's important that you share a lot of this stuff because clearly, you know, if they're concerned, I believe we should be concerned.
I agree.
If they're concerned, then we should be concerned as well.
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Okay.
So you continue having more of these messages happen over time.
And I'd like to ask Is this something you're willing to talk about?
We can.
Okay.
Let's get into some of this.
And again, if you're not comfortable, you just let me know and we'll work around it.
The next progression here is June to October 2016.
You have messages in four symbols from the Murthers to.
Okay.
To yourself.
And the message is as follows Your creator is displeased.
Arrogant belief must allow all.
Now you're given a latitude and longitude.
Bergoglio accepts open and free keys.
And then decoders monitored.
Use caution.
So, right there, just for this first part, we have something really interesting.
But those.
I don't remember what the latitude, longitude.
Where it goes to?
Where it goes to.
Yeah, I don't remember.
So, the latitude of Solomon's Temple 31.77, and then the longitude of Temple Mount.
That's crazy.
And you know, it's so crazy because I, as a defense contractor, I recently was in Israel and in Jerusalem.
Yeah.
I've got pictures, you know, near that location.
Whoa.
Yeah.
It's like it was predicting my future outcome of where I would be.
Whoa.
That's wild, isn't it?
That, yeah, obviously.
This happens all the time.
These synchronicities.
Yeah.
I do not choose work for where the location is.
I choose work for the job, and I have no idea where I'm going to end up, you know, doing this type of work.
So it's kind of wild that.
You know, yeah.
I mean, there are a lot of kind of wild things going on here.
So, yeah, you take that as almost some type of synchronicity.
Like they're showing you, like, hey, and here, the word solo at the longitude of Solomon's temple here.
Solo, solo as in Solomon's temple.
Another interesting connection that was found by Dr. Drew here.
Credit to him.
And Solomon, I believe, didn't he have some sort of guidance?
From God Himself to create the temple.
I'm not familiar with the war.
I'm not familiar with the war.
I'm not super familiar with religion.
I would align myself Christian to the best part.
I'm not an everyday go to church type of person.
I'm pretty open minded, but I do live my life peaceful and calm and courteous to others and polite to others.
And I care about life and things.
But Yeah, solo.
Well, I'll have to look into that a little bit.
Seems like individual, you know, and it has points at Solomon's Temple, you know, quite a bit.
Where were you when you received this message?
Do you remember in March 2016?
June, sorry, June to October 2016?
I believe I was in Colorado.
Okay.
And this is probably at night again?
Yeah, it always happens at night.
Yeah.
When I'm sleeping.
Bergoglio.
I don't know Bergoglio.
I'll look that up real quick if you don't mind.
No.
Absolutely.
I have no idea.
It's Italian.
Let me see.
It's Italian.
And looking at the letters that was translated by.
From Dr. Horace Drew, it is in red, shows up as.
Yeah.
Okay.
This is really interesting.
Bergoglio.
And then it says accept, open, and free keys.
Right.
And then in red, we have Pope FR.
As in perhaps Pope Francis, right?
One could make that assumption.
Correct.
Well, Bergoglio is Jorge Mario Bergoglio, the birth name of Pope Francis.
Okay.
Wow.
Yeah.
Now, back in 2016, when this is explained to me, like I said, I was getting lots of messages and lots of translations.
So I'm remembering a lot more as we're talking about them, but they're not brought up in my head all the time, kind of thing.
Yeah.
Because I'm constantly receiving more and more type of messages.
So, yes, Bergoglio does ring some bells with Pope Francis.
And this is so wild.
And is he still the Pope?
Because I think the Pope is still the Pope.
No, he passed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Pope Francis passes now, the Pope from Chicago.
Did he pass or did he just hand it over to the Pope?
No, he passed.
He did pass.
Yeah, he passed away.
Okay.
Last year.
I was actually in Italy, in Rome.
Oh, wow.
The day after he passed.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
I booked my trip to Rome.
I was going to Rome.
I was going to go visit the Vatican.
Right.
And I was like, nice.
All right.
And literally a day before, I see, oh no, the Pope is dead.
And I'm like, uh oh, that kind of foils my plan to go to the Vatican.
Sure enough, it was pandemonium.
As you can expect massive crowds, hundreds and thousands of people.
The city got shut down, you know, and I was in the midst of all this.
That's crazy.
Yeah, really insane.
The day you were there.
Yeah, I was there for the funeral.
Like they, you know, paraded around his body around the city.
And so I'm wondering if this is a metaphor.
You know, it says to free keys.
Yeah.
So I wonder if it's, that means like, you're no longer, you're no longer Pope.
Hand over the keys to the next.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
There's so many different similarities that, you know, this came out in 2016, obviously way before, you know, he was even, you know, before he passed.
This essentially in 2016 pointed out, That he was going to pass and then he's off to someone else.
Sure.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
The keys.
Yeah.
And then so freaking wild.
There's so many things that you just can't ignore.
I do.
This is the Da Vinci Code.
Decoders monitored, use caution.
That one terrifies me.
That one bothers me as well.
Yeah.
Because the moment that I heard that, I got concerned with, I got concerned for the safety of Linda and Dr. Horace Drew at that point in time.
I was almost at a point where, like, okay, we need to put this on hold.
I'm going to stop talking to people for a while because they're helping me, but I don't want to put them in jeopardy.
You know, they're important to me.
They're good people, both Linda and Dr. Horseshoe.
They're good people.
They have good hearts.
And the last thing I want to do is bring something negative towards them.
And so at this point in time, I was 10.
I was kind of backing off from sharing.
I was worried for them.
And so when this translation came out, I was being cautious.
Yeah.
It's not just about me anymore.
It's about others.
And I don't want to bring anything upon others.
So yeah, I remember that.
But it does say decoders monitor, use caution.
It doesn't say stop.
It doesn't say stop.
You're correct.
It doesn't say.
Let's say it says use caution.
So, you know.
Caution should be taken with everything that we do in life, shouldn't it?
Yeah, I take that as a direct message for sure.
It then goes on to rebuild the temple for all.
Return our gifts.
That's another scary one.
What gifts?
And so I don't know about that one at all.
I mean, I couldn't think of anything.
Return our gifts.
So, would this be like reprisal, recoveries, definitely.
But, If they were crashed.
Well, not always.
I don't think they all crashed.
No.
Do you think they were just here?
Here's something that works.
Play with it.
According to other whistleblowers, I think David Gresham mentioned this too that there are some that are considered to be, or at least looked at as donations.
Donations for experiments?
For whatever.
They were left there intact with nothing on board type.
And here you go.
Oh, wow.
In these sort of giving fields.
Okay.
And they were just kind of.
On these ranges or whatever it is, they were kind of just dropped there.
And like, here you go.
But that would just be like a gift of a vehicle in my perspective of things.
You know, here, here, here's an object.
Is this object a gift?
Or what do we consider gifts?
Gifts are given with emotion, gifts are given with intent, and gifts are given with meaning behind them.
So I'm one that, like I said, thinks outside of the box a lot.
On a lot of different things.
So I interpret a gift as something that could be used for knowledge, something that could be used to answer questions, something that could be used more or less, per se, with emotions and helping in some fashion.
So, what was this gift?
Looking glass.
I'm not thinking it was a UAP that was left behind as a gift.
I'm thinking it was something more tech, some type of instrument.
I get feeling and emotion and.
I get more out of it than that.
You know what I mean?
So there is talk that Eisenhower and the Majestic were given a tool, which is this looking glass, this crystal that was known as like the Yellow Book, or there's all types of different names for it.
So, a book.
A book of knowledge.
Yes.
But essentially, it was like a hologram that you could peer into different timelines.
All right.
Like a.
Like a magic eight ball.
Yes.
Exactly like a magic eight ball, but that had like all these.
Far more detail.
Yes.
And that was the way that I understood it.
And again, this is all just lore.
I don't know if any of this is accurate, but the way that I understood it is it was given to them with the intent to disseminate that to the world.
Okay.
Use this as a tool to evolve.
Right.
And they chose to keep it for themselves and to use it for their own personal gain and militarization.
Okay.
I could see how.
And controlling the narrative through the military industrial complex.
And that.
Ticked them off, and they were like, That's not why we gave it to you.
You promised us that you would do it this way, and you didn't.
You're not using it for its intended purposes.
So, I see return our gifts as being like, hey, either play nice or give it back.
Play nice or give it back.
Yeah.
Give back our toy.
Exactly.
Top side destruction of early libraries, artifacts, and structure.
What do you make of that?
So, when I think of top side, I think of surface.
Because, you know, I'm not Navy, but if I was operating underwater, then surface would be the water level, the surface of the water, surface of the earth.
So, this would be how I interpret it is libraries.
It says libraries.
What else did it say?
Libraries, artifacts, and structures.
Libraries, artifacts, and structures.
So, artifacts are things of our past, right?
So, I interpret this as our history, you know, like maybe ancient civilizations that we're uncovering in Egypt and things, you know, and over time they become buried in sand.
So, maybe these are structures or, or, Maybe they have information.
Maybe there's historical reference or guides, such as hieroglyphics, you know, and some of these ancient structures that were unburied in the desert that are, you know, echoes of our past, of how we lived back in the day.
And maybe they're being destroyed in some fashion somehow.
Yeah.
And that's the topside destruction.
Topside.
So there might be a whole underground component here that we're.
Right.
So, I mean, I remember being in Iraq when we were operating out there.
There's a lot of historical sites out there.
And I remember some of the, there were some peoples that were destroying and defacing ancient statues and things because temples.
You know, who knows?
Maybe they're not well educated on the histories of things, but maybe they're just trying to.
Wipe away some of the history.
And then I don't think that's beneficial to humanity at all.
You know, when you have a view and you want everybody to view things the way that you view things, and you want to discredit anybody who has an outside view of things, then you're imposing violence and destruction to force people to see your view your way and you're the only.
And so I don't think this is a, I don't think this is a, A good way to think and a good way to operate.
So I interpret that as an arrogant way to force their beliefs upon everyone, kind of thing.
Maybe that's what they're warning us about.
Like, hey, stop doing that.
Give us our gifts back.
Stop destroying stuff.
Right, right.
You know?
Yeah.
And then the capital letters spell out monde, which is French for world.
Okay.
And the word defend.
Which again, pretty deep there, defend our world.
Followed by must chastise or avoid study of dark energy until photon energy is mastered.
And then in brackets, enlarge, squeeze, shrink, insert, charge.
And then the capitalized letters spell it lunar.
This one baffled me.
I mean, as far as the enlarge, shrink, insert, charge, I have.
Sounds technical.
It sounds like it's kind of out of my realm of.
Liquid Metal Physics00:04:23
Yeah.
My knowledge.
Physics or something.
You know, and I pick up physics pretty quickly, and I've never taken a physics class.
It's just something I've always picked up quite easily, quite well, because I can envision things in my mind, such as playing billiards and pool.
I didn't take classes on the physics of it.
I paid attention and practiced the way the balls manipulate from each other and how they strike and where they hit on the side rails to make my shots.
And I'm I'm quite good at billiards and pool.
We should play all over.
Yeah.
In the military, you know, usually.
We should play tonight.
You want to play?
I'm pretty good.
But I did not bring my pool cue.
That's all right.
We can bore it.
We'll play on an even playing field.
We'll both use shitty pool cues.
Yeah.
We could use some house sticks.
Yeah.
I'll play.
I'll play.
What's wrong with a few dings and dents and broken tips?
We'll make something happen.
Yeah.
Okay.
And then lunar, obviously, something there.
Photon energy.
We talked about this before.
And then avoid study.
Avoid the study of dark energy.
So, like, we're looking into dark matter, obviously.
I don't know what dark energy is.
I don't think we know what dark matter is, but we're trying to, through CERN, I think, either figure it out, create it.
Even, you know, if you listen to Bob Lazar, he says that the creation of element 115, Once element 115, the fuel is put into the sort of generator engine or whatever, it basically dissipates into or creates 116 from 115.
And then it sort of disintegrates in that or whatever it does.
And then that creates dark matter or antimatter or whatever.
And that's how the reactor, I'm probably butchering it.
Last night when we were eating dinner, We were talking about this.
I was talking to Dr. Horsedrew, and I was sharing some information with him what I was seeing in my vivid dream state.
And I was drawing pictures for him of what I was seeing.
And what I saw was on a monitor that was embedded into the wall when one of these small grays had gone to it and it lit up like a monitor, like a television monitor, like this here.
And it was showing some sort of metallic, liquid metallic.
And I'm quick to say, or a lot of people are quick to say, that's liquid mercury.
Well, that's what we have here.
But I'm not for sure that that was liquid mercury.
It could be some other type of liquid metal that we haven't discovered yet.
But I believe it was some type of liquid metal that was stationary at the time when he brought up the screen.
And it started up, and this liquid metal started rotating in a circle, spinning something that was similar to when it was stopped.
It was similar to like the yin yang symbol, the black and white S with the two dots on either side.
It kind of resembled that appearance, but this wasn't, I wasn't looking straight down at it.
This was at an angle, and I was interpreting the information.
Kind of like that yin yang symbol, but with the liquid metal rotating, spinning, causing other things to rotate and spin.
And it was charged in a way where it started to glow some sort of plasma around it and it was changing colors.
So this was spinning extremely fast and it was charged, electrified in some way that it was causing a glow.
And I tried to articulate this in sketches and then shooting this over to Dr. Drew.
We'll bring it up here.
And yeah, yeah, we'll definitely bring that up.
I would love, you know, what's so cool about this as well, Jeremy, is that everything you're saying and everything that we're looking at right here, like there's a hive mind out there right now that's watching this with us.
Okay.
And this is the whole of the internet.
There are brilliant people watching this.
There are people who are studying advanced physics and sciences and all the soft and hard sciences.
Guardians Remain Silent00:06:54
And collectively, you know, it's another one of the reasons why, again, I'm so thankful that you're doing this because.
You're giving not just me this information.
You're giving this information to humanity.
And whoever's out there who's on this path to try and, you know, help disclosure, help whatever that is to come to light a little bit and shine some light on this stuff.
I mean, they're going to find something in here that they can use for that.
And that's.
I am constantly getting new information.
I'm constantly receiving messages in some fashion, not every day, not every night, but once, twice a month, maybe once a month.
Maybe I'll go a few months without anything and I'll have something.
But I'm constantly bombarded with very clear messages, very vivid messages.
I would be happy to, some engineers, I'd be happy to assist and help.
Honestly, I'm just burnt out.
With the radar stuff, you know, I've been doing it for so long, I'm ready to move to something different.
Yeah, you know, I would love to go on the investigative side of things, you know, where I'm not sitting and told to sit there and just hey, somebody else is going to do this.
I want to get involved, you know, I want to help out.
You know, I have that engineering background, you know, I would be happy to help.
Yeah, and I'm sure, you know, after this airs, you'll probably get some phone calls.
I would, I would to me, that's why I took the.
Yep.
I took the mask off.
I'm not going by Sarmfors Class CJ anymore.
Yeah.
You know, my name's out there.
It's time.
Hit me up.
I would also err on the side of caution when it comes to that because throwing out an open invitation like that can lead to all sorts of things.
Yeah, definitely.
But you're a smart guy.
I mean, no threat to anyone, especially my own country.
You know, I chose to defend my country.
I'm an honorable person.
And I will not, I do not want to.
Create any negative impact within my country and within the world, per se.
So, yeah, I'm not going to divulge things that I'm not supposed to talk about.
But I think some sharp minds getting together and just working out things would be great.
All right, let's continue on this.
Creator will stand aside, 14 guardians remain on.
Okay.
Creator will stand aside.
Creator will stand aside.
Don't like that.
14 guardians remain on.
Now, I wonder if this is a reference to Ike's embedded citizens.
But also here we have in parentheses Space Force, because that is what we refer to the Space Force officers as guardians.
Okay.
So that's why I think Dr. Drew said, you know, 14 guardians remain on.
But 14.
Yeah, I want to see something here.
I was, and this is, yeah, okay.
This is way before the Space Force, though.
When did Space Force?
Yeah, this is a couple years ago.
Yeah.
A few years ago.
Yep.
Yeah, yeah.
Not 2016, right?
No.
So that's just interesting.
Is it related?
Is it not related?
I don't know.
Or maybe this group of five expanded to 14.
Yep.
And maybe the creator of the group will stand aside and allow them to work out, you know?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Or, yeah, some creative program or something.
Yeah, this one, this one's, yeah, this one's throwing me, throwing me off a bit.
Definitely enigmatic.
Maybe it, maybe some of your viewers might have some opinions about that.
You know, they maybe they can, maybe they can write and, yeah, in the bottom, we could read this later.
You know, that would be, there would be a lot of that.
Interesting.
I guarantee you.
So, so yeah, type in, you know, what you think this might be because I, yeah, I'm not sure.
The creator will stand aside.
14 guardians remain on.
Yeah, so I don't know what that would mean.
I really don't.
And then two vaults for examination, which, okay.
And then, you know, Dr. Drew here, again, Dr. Drew is connecting dots that, you know, he.
The greater will stand aside.
14 guardians remain on two vaults for examination.
And so he said vaults under the Temple Mount, perhaps, was his suggestion.
Okay.
You know, Dr. Drew's here again, just leaping.
He's brainstorming, yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
He's brainstorming.
He's really good at brainstorming.
He really is.
Yeah.
And then black 68 times six, and then in parentheses, nine.
So he thinks black symbols will create a picture 68 or 69 per line.
And that's when, you know, he took the liberty of making these images where the boxes and lines create images.
Yeah.
And it kind of does.
This is like another little morph into things, you know, where the boxes and lines don't dispel very thorough information, but they're displaying imagery.
Yeah.
That's wild.
And that's, yeah, that becomes like a fourth dimensional thing, perhaps.
Maybe, maybe if we can put these into some type of like, because on two dimensions, they look almost like an image.
There's almost something there.
Like it's not quite perfect, right?
Right.
What if there were lined up?
Maybe if there's a different way, another pattern.
Exactly.
Another shape.
I think of the movie Contact with Jodie Foster.
They don't line up.
They do.
If you think like a pagan.
Every three Every three dimensional page contains a piece of the printer.
There it was all the time, staring you in the face.
Buried within the message itself is the key to decoding it.
Yeah, they were given like six sides of a cube, essentially, to put together.
You're good at those.
You're good at those puzzle boxes.
Maybe you can take this.
Yeah, and then copy it every, you know.
The zeros and ones, precisely how it is, and maybe adjust it.
And I mean, you're good at this.
Maybe you can solve that.
Yeah, maybe.
Or maybe.
I mean, I can just help someone solve it, perhaps.
But yes, I would definitely take a crack at it.
I'm also going to leave the website where you can find all of this below, which is Crop Circle Connector.
Right?
Maybe some other listeners have the ability to do this.
That would be fascinating.
It would be fascinating.
I mean, it's so fascinating.
Vivid Impactful Emotions00:03:54
You know, as this happens, you know, it still blows your mind that, you know, if anyone sits back and thinks about it when they go to sleep, everybody has dreams, right?
You know, everybody does.
Can you imagine if you close your eyes, if everyone closes their eyes for a minute and think about having that dream, waking up, grabbing a notebook and a pen or a pencil and start writing down?
These boxes and lines that you see, and you look at it as like just gibberish because you're not fully awake.
And then you go back to sleep, and in the morning, you shoot this over to somebody who's able to translate it.
And it turns out to be something like several different meanings, several different messages all in one.
And how they line up with so many other things.
I mean, it's essentially like a micro nuclear bomb going off in your head of how.
How impactful that it could be.
You know what I mean?
I mean, I'm sure people have had vivid dreams before, but these happen all the time with me.
All the time.
Are you afraid for your life at times?
What makes you afraid for your life?
The messages?
Or sharing them?
Sharing them is what worries me a little bit.
I don't want to put the family in jeopardy.
I don't want to bring negativity to my household.
I'm a peaceful person.
I mean, I haven't always been peaceful.
Of course, in war and military, you're just trying to survive.
You're not a.
Murderous savage that's running around.
You know, you're trying to defend yourself and defend the soldiers that are with you.
And you're just trying to survive it, move on, and trying to do your job.
You want to serve your country and serve it in the best capacity you can.
So I'll never go against my country.
I'll never go against our armed services.
You know, I'm proud of everyone I served with.
So I'm concerned that, you know, some of this information might upset someone and trigger someone.
And that's not my intention.
Someone in the government or I don't want to upset anyone in the government.
I really don't.
I want them to have their own opinions about things, but don't bring violence upon anyone else because of this.
You're a free person.
You could have your own opinions about it.
You could make your own judgments.
I'm not telling you to believe what I have to, what I've done, what's happened to me.
I'm not asking anyone to believe it.
I'm asking people to just accept the information and make your own judgments, make your own determinations of things.
What do you get out of it?
You know, I mean, because I get something out of it.
It's wild to me.
It's wild, chaotic.
There's a lot of emotions involved in it.
So I'm asking everyone just to interpret it the way you want, you know?
Well said.
It's definitely a big pill to swallow.
And, you know, it does tick so many boxes.
Obviously, connect so many dots to a lot of the lore that's out there.
So, for me, this is fascinating because it's one of those things that connects this sort of lore world that we observe and research and the real world.
Absolutely.
And now we're like, wait a second, we have an actual link here.
Coffee Shop Breakthrough00:03:19
And that for me is really valuable in trying to decipher this whole puzzle, so to speak.
It's starting to combine.
So, it's starting to blend together.
The more you look at it.
Okay.
I want to touch on a few things if you're still.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
One thing you told me this really incredible story last night.
Okay.
Do you mind telling that?
One that happened with the females.
Do you remember this one in the restaurant where you got locked out?
Where I got locked out.
So from base, it was like 10 30 at night, was like the time you had to go back, but then you went back and it was shut down.
But then, like, you went to this restaurant, you went to this coffee shop.
Oh, yes.
Yes, this happened in Iraq.
Yeah.
I wasn't working at the time.
I was.
I won't go into detail of my job there as a civilian, but I was working on the installation and a fellow contractor was having a birthday.
And this was out in Urbil, Iraq.
And I had gone to his birthday at this location and it was a karaoke spot.
And I played pool there from time to time.
So, I had gone and they had food and stuff.
So, I was eating food and playing some pool.
And I knew I had, I looked at my watch at one point and I was like, oh no, it's almost time before they locked down the base and I can't get back on.
I'm like, oh my God, I gotta go.
I gotta go.
And so, I kind of rushed out and I said, thanks, thanks.
And I took off to try to make it back to the gate.
And I didn't make it back in time.
So, they turned me around.
So, I was agitated.
I was like, man, I can't believe I missed that.
And so I went right back, and he was still there, and a lot of the other guys were still there because a lot of them lived in little apartments and stuff out there in Irbil.
And so I was just like, okay, well, I'll go back.
Yeah, I can't get back on base now.
So I had work to do, and I wanted to get back to my work, you know, because I kind of engulfed myself with my work.
I enjoy it, or I have enjoyed it over the many years because I know what I'm doing.
So I wanted to get back, and I didn't make it in time.
So I went back and hung out.
I stayed pretty late until about two o'clock in the morning.
And then I needed to kill time because everybody was going home, everybody was spending time with each other, and everyone was getting tired and rolling out.
I decided I'm going to go down to the coffee shop with this other guy who didn't make time as well.
There's a couple of us that didn't make it back in time.
So we decided to go to this little coffee restaurant breakfast spot.
And we went and sat down and ate.
And ordered our coffees and, and, you know, I got my little egg breakfast thing going.
And while we were sitting there, a buddy of mine mentioned that they're like, okay, well, we're not alone.
There's more coming in.
Staring Men in Charge00:12:43
And I kind of glance over and this one guy and four females, they were dressed and, you know, flashy Arabic.
Arabic attire.
So they didn't have their faces covered.
It was just their hair that was covered, but vibrant colors blues and purples and greens and gold and silver in their clothing.
It was women dressed nicely, had come in with this basic guy beard.
And as they were coming to the table, I noticed they had the brilliant, most brilliant colored eyes, blues.
Most of them had like a blue colored eye, eyes.
And one was slightly violet, almost purple.
And it was like, I was, they were staring at me and they had beautiful, beautiful eyes, a little bit larger than mine or yours, just a little bit, barely noticeable.
But I just could not get over how bright and brilliant they were, you know?
And, It was like mesmerizing almost.
And they were just staring at me.
And they walked right by the table, two of us.
He's sitting across from me.
And he's just kind of glancing over, like, why are they staring?
And he didn't say it out loud, but he's thinking, why are they staring at you, dude?
Like, did you say something?
And I didn't say nothing.
And then they just casually sat down.
They didn't say a word the entire time that they were there, they never opened their mouth to speak.
This guy ordered everything for them and all they ate was vegetables.
All they ate was vegetables.
The guy, he ordered like lamb and some other stuff and got a coffee.
They were just drinking water and eating vegetables.
And it was just, it was weird to me.
But why they were sitting there, they just kept staring at me.
All the women.
At the same time.
Not at the same time, but at different times, they would look over at me and then look at each other.
And look over at me, almost like they were communicating without verbally, without verbal communication, but communicating nonverbal.
And then I just kept hearing in my head, Why are you here?
Do you need help?
What's your purpose?
Like, why are you here?
I kept hearing this in my head.
Nobody else could hear it.
He couldn't hear anything.
And he's sitting across from me, and we're trying to talk quietly, like, Dude, they're not saying anything.
It was like, I know they're not.
Nothing's coming out of their mouth, you know?
And this guy already knows exactly what they want.
And they're not speaking.
And the guy's looking at them and their eyes, they're looking back at each other.
And then the guy's looking at me.
I'm like, what did I do?
Why am I, why are you, why are you staring at me so much?
Do I look like an American that bad?
I mean, yeah, I already know I don't fit in, but, you know, I, I tend to, I tend to just wear just plain regular clothes, you know, try to blend in as much as possible.
I don't want to stand out, you know, as the American and, and a, and, and, you know, I don't want to stand out too bad that night.
You know, I wouldn't even plan on going out, you know, but I did.
And it was just odd that they never said a word.
The only one who spoke was the guy.
And the guy just seemed normal.
And you kept getting psychic interactions.
I kept getting messages like, do you need help?
Why are you here?
What's your purpose?
What's your purpose here?
They sound curious.
And I'm hearing it in my head, but not, Audible.
And you asked your friend if you could hear it?
Is it, do you hear that?
I mean, I don't hear, they haven't said a word.
It's been dead silent.
Only he's been talking.
He's like, that's all I've heard is him talking to the waiter and stuff.
And I was like, he's not hearing it in his head like I can.
And so I'm like, okay, well, I don't want my friend to think I'm crazy.
So I'm just going to keep this kind of to myself.
But they're talking to me in my head, like asking me if I need help or anything.
And I'm just in the back of my mind, I'm not verbally saying it, but I was like, no, I'm okay.
I'm good.
You know, I'm just saying it to them.
I'm saying it in my head.
I'm trying to.
I mean, I don't know if the message was received or not, but I'm thinking in my head, nope, I'm good.
I'm all right.
Just got to wait a few more hours so I can go back to work.
You know, I'm just saying that in my head.
I'm not speaking it.
Yeah.
I don't know if it's being picked up.
I don't know if it's being received, but I just kept getting like, do you need help?
Do you need help?
Do you need assistance?
You know, why are you here?
Man, what's your purpose?
She's like, yeah, yeah, help me out.
Yeah, it was a bit intimidating.
Yeah, I bet, dude.
You know, you don't want to offend people in their own country.
You know, you want to be as most respectful as possible, you know.
But also in that country, women are not staring at other men.
No, that's the other thing.
You know, that was another thing that was throwing me off.
Did they look Arabic from their complexion?
Did they look like Middle Eastern?
They looked Middle Eastern, you know, like from.
Except with like light eyes.
Very brilliant eyes and almost flamboyant eyes.
Clothing.
Yeah.
Clothing.
Yeah.
And the other thing that I noticed is they all had purses with them on their shoulders.
Is that unusual?
No, it's not unusual for a woman to carry a purse, but they never took the purse off.
Right.
They were sitting down.
They all had their purses still on their shoulders or draped over them.
They never removed their purse.
They never took it off and set it on the floor.
They never rummaged through their purse.
It just stayed there.
And they continued to eat and drink.
Whoa.
And so it was just that's a crazy detail stare at each other.
Look at another person and stare at them.
Look at me.
Yeah.
Like, and it was just like, what?
And trying to fit in.
Yeah.
Okay.
So then they get up and leave.
Is that it?
They leave before you?
They left before us.
So, I mean, they finished eating and drinking their water.
Yeah.
And he paid and they got up and were leaving.
But they, as each one passed me by, they staring me down.
I mean, not aggressively, not, I didn't feel any sort of.
Feeling or emotion behind it and like nothing negative, absolutely nothing.
Curiosity, or yeah, more or less with curiosity.
And you know, when they walked by, they each looked at me with a pause, like, like they were, you good?
Are you okay?
You know, just kind of it kept hearing in my head, you good?
You're all right.
You know, this is the impression that I got.
You know, as they walked out, that's so creepy.
They jumped in this little black SUV and took off in a black SUV.
There's lots of them.
Yeah, all over the place out there.
It's interesting.
There's a book by a guy called Dr. David Jacobs, and he basically did a lot of regression on experiencers and wrote a book called Walking Among Us, which is essentially talking about how these later stage hybrids are kind of like hiding in plain sight, but also not too familiar with how to be human quite yet.
Right.
And they're kind of learning from us.
And so I hear a lot of these quirky stories of them.
Emulating what people would do, but not entirely getting it right.
Right.
And so, one of those instances might be like keeping your purse on the whole time you're eating.
Like, it's such a dumb detail.
Yeah.
But it's an important detail to fit in, you know.
But like to teach that, if you're teaching someone how to be human, you're like, oh, yeah, you go out, you leave your purse.
You don't always, maybe you forget to mention, oh, yeah, while you're eating, put your purse on the ground, pick it back up before you leave.
Like, these are just small details that I can see someone overlooking who's trying to assimilate.
And trying to look human, you know?
Right, right, right.
There was another story that Nick Pope was here and he got a call about this group of people looking very strange.
And they all get together to buy a single pencil at an art store with like a big denomination bill.
Right.
It was a single pencil and they're all kind of like looking.
And then the lady's like, gives them their change and they didn't know what to do with the change.
They didn't know what to like.
And so, like, there's this interaction like, ooh, we're going to go buy a pencil.
That's what humans do or whatever.
And then not know that, oh, what is this?
What are they giving me?
Like having no concept of that.
Yes.
So you hear.
I'm showing I want this one thing, but you're giving me a bunch of things back.
Yeah.
I'm confused.
Yeah.
They're all buying one.
Like it makes no sense.
And she was so scared that she ended up calling like the UFO hotline or whatever.
Yeah.
When you got a group of people all standing online to buy one pencil.
Yeah.
Throws you out.
That would, yeah, that would throw out some red flags in your brain quite a bit, you know?
Yeah.
It just feels uncanny.
People, yes, we're, Only here to buy this one pencil that would, yeah, that's very similar.
There's like 10 people, it was like a lot, it was a whole bunch, yeah, it was a whole bunch of people.
Like, we're all here to buy this one pencil, yeah, exactly.
It's wild, yeah, it's but you read a lot about those type of interactions where you're like, man, you're just adjacent to being a normal person, but there's something off, there's like some uncanny valley happening, something glaring right in your face, holding that, yeah, holding that purse the entire time.
So, the purse the whole time was something that just threw me off, yep, it was like.
Protected with that one arm, right?
The entire time, like nothing can happen to this purse, it must stay right on me this entire time.
Almost like it was a life support thing.
You know, it's funny.
You know what I mean?
There's probably nothing in that purse, there could be nothing that's probably they're probably just like, you know, or it could try to look human, be like, I need this purse, but this, or maybe it's something to protect themselves with, maybe because they're not familiar with human interaction.
Yeah, they're not familiar with.
Muslim way of things.
Sure.
And especially women do not stare at men like that, you know, with their faces uncovered.
Yeah.
And they didn't look drunk or anything, did they?
Or like, no.
No, they did not see me.
It's like two in the morning.
What are you there?
They were sitting upright, perfect posture, staring at each other, very casually eating, you know, not rushing, not sipping their water with elegance, you know, staring at me and You know, just not just staring when they walk by, they stop, stopped walking and were staring at me just in a more mesmerized, questioning way.
You know, you don't do that.
A little bit there.
That's not a common behavior.
It's a behavior that really stands out, it's uncommon there.
So, and I was trying to avoid staring back.
So I was like, Yeah, it's awkward.
I don't want to offend anybody, but I, it was, it was wild.
It was so wild.
And the guy that was with them, he seemed, he was not in charge of them whatsoever.
He was just there to help.
And that's another characteristic that jumped out at me because usually men are in control of everything.
I see.
Over there, you know, with a group of women.
He was also Middle Eastern.
Yes.
And that, that, that's something that was uncommon to me, you know, because usually when, um, A let's say a co worker or a boss takes some of the ladies out for a dinner, he's in charge, you know, he's he's uh he's both protecting them, feeding them, and is usually in charge of the situation.
Yeah, a bit of a chaperone type deal.
Or he seemed like he was being chaperoned by them.
Oh, weird, like they were in charge, but not saying a word.
He ordered everything for them, but they didn't say it.
It was like the entire time I never heard their voice, maybe they were controlling him.
Besides, in my head, but it was all the same in my head, you know.
They just grabbed some random human and they're like, We're hungry and you're going to order for us.
You're going to do exactly what we asked.
Hey, it's not a bad deal.
Three beautiful Middle Eastern women taking you out to the more four.
Yeah.
I mean, hey, it was wild.
Might be a good time.
That's crazy.
Gosh.
Yeah.
These interactions fascinate me to no extent.
Progressing Through Answers00:03:38
You know, as these messages that you're receiving, Go on.
Do you feel?
Are you still, you're still, are you writing them all down?
I have, yes.
Yeah.
Not all of them.
Not all of them.
I mean, I, I, I do at times have moments where I just need to take a break from it, you know?
It is, it's, it's hard to, hard to imagine, but it's old.
It's taxing.
It's taxing on your, on your, you don't want to lose touch with yourself.
As well, you know what I mean, and so there's times where I just didn't, you know, write them down.
Like, okay.
Or maybe in my perspective of things, this is not that important right now.
You know, I got other things going on.
And then they seem to slow down a little bit during those times.
And then when I'm ready to start writing things down again, it picks up again.
And a lot of times.
So, do you ever try communicating back?
Just thinking.
Do you ever get answers to what you're thinking?
Sometimes, but very seldom.
What's an example of an answer you've gotten back?
Like, Hey, I've got a lot of things going on right now.
You know, I got a kid getting ready to graduate.
I've got, you know, I've got some things going on.
I don't have time for this right now.
And then it was just calm down, just calm down for a while.
I mean, but it's just thinking through some of this stuff.
I've asked, can you give me some more direct answers that are helpful?
Something that I could articulate down, write down.
And it's like epiphany for everybody.
So you just give, you cut to the chase and just give me the answer.
Yeah, stop giving me like some wild goose chase.
Leave the cryptics out.
Just give me the straight answer.
No, no.
And I get a response that's like, no, you have to be educated to that level.
And so that's the impression that I get that this happens for a reason and it has to happen in the steps that it's happening in.
And so they're not going to give you a straight answer, they're going to educate you to get that straight answer in time.
You feel like you're progressing.
I feel like I always feel like it's progressing.
Whoa.
But progressing not fast, but at the pace that it's supposed to progress at, you know?
Whoa.
Yes.
I've asked that specifically.
Just give me the answer.
Let me solve it.
Let me put it out there.
Let me get it out there.
No.
No, it doesn't work that way.
Do you feel like they're holding things back from you?
I do at times.
What do you think?
I don't think it's anything bad.
No.
I think it's more along the lines of you need to know.
Need to know basis.
You need to understand things the way they work in order.
For it to progress further, you need, we need to ease you into things.
Huh.
Because, you know, it's already like a super mind.
Yeah, I'm a military.
I cuss a lot and I don't want to keep.
No, you're good.
This is good.
This is a mind fuck.
It blows your freaking mind.
Dude.
And if they just threw everything at me at once, I mean, who knows what would happen to my mental state.
So maybe this is a way to protect myself, you know, that they're gradually sharing stuff because I believe that that progression is needed.
And then I specifically ask, just give me the answer.
No.
Locked Room Mystery00:05:49
We won't do it that way.
Do you think you were chosen?
Like from a young age?
Do you think that you've been selected?
A lot of strange things happened when I was a child.
And we talked about this last night.
I was, my parents were still together.
My mom and dad were still married.
I was about four.
And it was a time when I was about four years old where I started waking up in different parts of the house and it freaked my parents out.
When I wasn't in bed when they go to wake me up for school and they couldn't find me, I wasn't under the bed because sometimes I would go under the bed and sleep under there because I was afraid.
I don't know what I was afraid of, but I was drawing a lot of pictures that my mom took away and hidden because I was drawing, I believe I was drawing, you know, grays.
And she didn't want our community, our neighborhood to think that we were crazy people.
So she hid a lot of that.
But I was sleeping under the bed because I was afraid when I was going to bed when I was little.
You know, four year old seeing weird things.
Yeah, it could bother you.
But they would go in to wake me up and I wouldn't be in bed.
I wouldn't be in the room.
They would find me in the garage sleeping like on some laundry that hadn't been washed yet.
They would find me on the back porch, locked out of the house.
They would find me in random places around the house and outside of the house that I wouldn't, they'd go out and wake me up on.
I've fallen asleep in a toy box on my back porch.
You know, how can a kid sleep on toys?
I don't know.
Kids can sleep in weird places.
They can sleep hanging off of a bed sometimes.
So, yeah, that's when they started putting locks on the windows so that they couldn't be opened.
And that's when things started to pick up.
And there was one time where my dad was concerned and slept outside of my room.
And because they would lock us in the room, me and my brother, they would lock me and my brother in the room because they thought I was sleepwalking.
And so my dad grabbed a chair, put it outside our bedroom door, you know, tucked us in, and we went to bed.
And I'd hear him outside the door y'all stop laughing, y'all stop cutting up, go to sleep, go to bed.
And so we'd stop talking and eventually fall asleep.
Well, this particular time, he was sleeping outside of the door, and he had gotten up a couple of times to stand up and stretch his legs and then lay back down and get comfortable and go back to sleep.
But This morning, they go and unlock the door to go wake us up, and I'm not there.
Well, the windows are all locked.
I've been locked in my room, but I'm not in there.
And they couldn't find me for a while.
I believe it was like 30, 45 minutes.
They're starting to lose their mind.
Called the police.
They thought I had been kidnapped, but there's no way anybody could have gotten in.
They don't know how I disappeared.
And so they're looking everywhere.
And when the police show up, they're taking information.
There's a couple of police officers that were there, from what I remember.
And as some of them started to go scour the road or the area, one of them walked by my dad's car and saw my foot hanging out from some of my dad's work clothes.
And I've I had fallen asleep inside my dad's locked car in the back seat.
I was sleeping in the back seat of my dad's car under some of his work coats.
He was a security guard at the time.
He was one of his jackets I was sleeping under.
And they were trying to get the door unlocked.
My dad was looking for his keys.
He found his keys and they unlocked the door and got me out.
How'd you get in here?
The door's been locked.
My dad found his keys in the closet where he keeps them up top where he keeps his hats and stuff.
He just puts his keys up there, easy for him to grab.
And I couldn't reach that at four years old.
And I couldn't lock myself in and go back and put the keys back.
You know, I ended up in a locked car.
Out of your locked room.
Out of a locked room.
Yeah, in the backseat of my dad's car at four years old.
You think you were abducted?
You know, that's the impression that I get.
And it screams that, but, you know, no confirmation.
You know, I can't prove that.
I don't, I don't, I'm not going to try to prove it.
I'm just going to point out that, you know, my mom brought this up and she said it bothered her and she was worried and she was pretty freaked out at this point.
And so, you know, she was, she told me she was praying and doing a lot of things, trying to get some help and it eventually stopped, you know, it stopped happening and everybody like calmed down, you know?
Wow.
It was a real ordeal.
It was.
It was quite a while.
It was like with the police involved and everything.
Yeah.
This was incredible.
A one month timeframe or so.
In my young age.
Terrifying.
Yeah.
Four years old.
But you do have some proof of something.
And that proof you have on you, in you, I would say.
Yes.
Okay.
I see where you're getting at with this.
So it wasn't a while back.
I, sometime in 2021, right after I Right after I retired from the military and I was going through my BA stuff and starting to, we were looking for a house to buy, a place to settle down.
Abdominal Scarring Proof00:07:37
And I started feeling some, having some abdominal pains, some strange abdominal pains.
And I thought that there's, you know, I either my appendix was about to burst or something was going on with me.
I needed to get to a hospital and get checked out.
So I, I, I, I took off, drove to the hospital, military hospital on base.
Went to the emergency room and was getting checked out because I told them I was having a lot of weird abdominal pains.
It wasn't feeling right and it was starting to intensify and stuff.
And so they were thinking that maybe something was going on with my appendix or something.
So they went and they put me through some type of medical scanners.
I want to say MRI or something, something similar to that effect.
They took some X rays and got me through an MRI.
And why they were going through this MRI, which I think it's an MRI.
I could be wrong.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Forgive me if I'm wrong.
But I guess it takes scans around, like in a 360 degree location of your body.
And it takes hundreds or lots of lots of images so that they can see how things are affecting me and my body.
And why they were doing that, they discovered an anomaly in my left hip.
It was similar to the size of a BB, but maybe squished down a little bit.
And it was about, you know, half my fingernail, my pinky fingernail, you know, not very large, you know.
I would say half the size of a dime.
Is it metal?
It's metal.
They said it glowed in a way that was metal.
And it was the strange thing is why they're playing the video and seeing it.
You can see my circulatory system.
You can see blood pumping from my heart.
You can see the pulsing from my heartbeat.
And this thing had its own pulse that was different from the rest of my circulatory system.
So this thing had a pulse to it as well, but to a completely different beat of how my heart is.
And this was metal.
And this, I guess, they said this had to have been some type of micronuclear, some sort of reaction for it to show up the way it did.
The doctors were baffled.
They were, they were, I mean, my doctor was like, what the hell?
And he came back with two other doctors, I guess specialists in their field, and they're like, hey, we need to check you out.
They didn't say anything at first.
It was like, why are there three of you?
You know, like, what are three of you doing here?
He's like, we need to check you out.
Can you roll to your right?
And, And I rolled to my right and they removed the paper apron that they always make you wear.
They were moving that paper apron around and just completely checking out my, uh, the back of my buttocks, my, my hip, my legs, my inner thigh.
They're checking me out thoroughly.
I was like, it doesn't hurt there.
It hurts in my abdominal.
What are y'all doing?
He was like, hold on.
We're, we're looking at something.
We're looking for scarring.
I was like, I don't have any scars there.
He's like, you were military.
You ain't, you haven't even been blown up.
I was like, no, not really.
And I haven't been really blown up.
I have never received any shrapnel or anything like that in my career.
So they were looking for old entry sites, old injuries or old scarring.
They were looking for scarring, and I had no idea until they finished.
So they said, That's super weird.
And so the three of us are in here because you have some sort of metal object in your hip that is pulsing different from your circulatory system.
And we can see it on video, it's pulsing.
We would like to ask you if you want it removed.
We would be happy.
We'd love to remove it from you.
And I was like, and I said, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I have to think about it, you know.
And the more I thought about it, I said, no, I'll have to talk to my wife first.
And she's not here right now.
So I'll talk with her and I'll get back to you later.
And they were really trying to get me to have it removed.
Really?
They were really trying to convince me.
It was like, well, it's a foreign object.
They're excited about it.
It's not good for your body.
And it was like, is it causing anything?
Well, no, but that doesn't mean it won't cause anything later.
And they were just trying to convince me, like, you know, from a health perspective, you don't want metal and foreign objects that have some sort of energy associated with them in your body because it's not good for you.
Yeah.
And so they were going through my medical records and everything, trying to figure out what this is and where it came from, and there's nothing.
And so they were really trying to convince me to have it removed.
And as I was thinking about it, it was like, it's there for a purpose.
It's not causing me any bodily harm.
Why do they want to remove it?
And it was like, well, maybe they want to remove it and study it, and I'll never hear from it again.
So, and maybe it was put in place for a specific reason.
So, I decided, no, I'm going to leave it there.
And I talked to Linda Moulton Howe about it.
She said, it's there for a reason.
You don't want to remove it.
And so, and so I said, okay, all right.
Well, I told the doctors I'd give them a call back after I left.
And I called them back and said, no, I'm just going to leave it there.
It's not causing any problems.
And I don't want to cause myself any more pain just so you guys can remove something.
Messed around with, so I'm just gonna leave it there.
And they were like, seriously, really?
We really want to check this thing out.
This, it looks, it looks crazy.
And so I was like, now I know, but I'm just gonna leave it there.
It's still there.
It's still there.
Yeah.
I don't know if it's there.
Yeah.
That's the thing.
I don't know.
There's no, you can't feel it on the surface.
I don't feel anything.
It's like in the hip.
It's, I want to say, about an inch deep in the bone or in the muscle or in like some type of ligament or something in the tissue.
It's not in the bone, it's just in soft tissue, in soft tissue somewhere.
And it's far enough where I can't feel it when I'm pushing.
Yeah.
You know, I mean, I had no idea it was even present.
Also, you know, damn well, as soon as they take that out, you're never seeing that thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
As soon as they take it out, please go classified.
Happened to John Ramirez.
They wouldn't even show me.
I'm sure.
Yeah.
They were, they were too, they were a little too excited about it.
Happened to John Ramirez.
At the CIA, he had these frequent nosebleeds.
He fell back on his chair or something.
So they took him to, they gave him like an x ray and they saw that he had scarring tissue from a, or sort of like an incision up in his nasal cavity.
And it seemed like fragments of something up there.
And they're like, Have you ever had an operation?
He's like, No.
And they're like, We'd like to remove this stuff from you in your nose and at the same time solder that.
Incision and it'll prevent you from having these nosebleeds.
Right.
And so they retracted, they extracted whatever it was he had in his nose and, you know, closed him up and, you know, it was all good.
And then later on, when he was retiring, he remembers, he looks at his medical record and he goes, Hey, can I get that back?
And they go, Oh, let us check.
And they're like, Nope, that's classified.
And he goes, But it was in my body.
And they're like, Yes, sorry, no, classified.
It's ours now.
So he called a doctor friend of his at the CIA who requested it.
He could get access to it, but he wouldn't be allowed to show it to John either.
What a whirlwind.
This has been what a whirlwind this has been for you, sir.
It has been a whirlwind to say the least.
Classified Medical Records00:11:46
Something you're still going through constantly, ma'am.
I can't even.
Can you promise me something the next time you get a transmission?
If it isn't too personal, you'd share it with me.
Oh, absolutely.
I don't want to keep anything, you know.
Yeah.
From our progression.
So, yeah, I definitely will share.
Cool.
Absolutely.
And let me know, you know, if you need my help with anything you got going on.
Yeah.
I'm happy to help with whatever I can help with.
Absolutely.
And I think, you know, I really started thinking about this more when I was in Israel.
You know, do I want to keep doing the same boring job forever?
You know?
And so, there, you know, I worked long hours out there and very little time off, but some of that time off I would, uh, I would use to sit at a park and just watch people interact, you know, walking their dogs and things, and, and, uh, occasional children playing and, uh, just, just kind of taking things in and thinking about a lot of different things.
And there's good people out there, you know.
There's families, there's people who struggle, there's people who don't struggle as much, you know.
And I just, you know, I'm just, we're all gifted with life and imagination and curiosities and brilliance that a lot of us just go throughout their daily lives, not realizing they have, you know.
And, you know, I just value life.
I value people.
Yeah.
And obviously the pursuit of something greater.
Something greater, yeah.
And I think it's important that, you know, you don't want to get stagnant doing stuff that you're not, you know, that doesn't really interest you much anymore and you want to move on.
So if anyone out there has got some ideas, I'm all for it.
Yeah.
I can make a living doing something I enjoy.
As opposed to, you know, just the same mundane existence.
Yeah.
Hear, hear.
And if anybody out there, you know, wants to dot some I's or cross some T's on this whole puzzle, check out our Discord as well.
This is a great place to reach out to me.
I'm frequently on there and I'll start a whole channel on this stuff.
And so we can see people go down the rabbit hole and see what they come up with.
Maybe I'll share that with you and maybe bring you into the Discord as well and, you know, be a part of it so you can see what people are putting together.
Absolutely.
That'd be kind of cool, right?
You know, it's always been crazy because.
There's a lot of things that just line up with other perspectives.
Yeah.
And I'm always open to other perspectives.
Yeah.
And sometimes I can help people solve things really quick with just, you know, well, hey, that sounds really familiar.
Did you try this?
Oh, wow.
I didn't think about that, you know?
Yeah.
It's like, you know, we weren't built to do things solo.
Yeah.
Definitely.
We were built to inspire one another and help one another.
And so, yeah, that's, you know, that would be great.
And in the great words of the Murthers, expose hidden knowledge to all citizens.
All right.
Right.
There you go.
That's what we can be doing.
That's what we're doing right now.
Yes.
That's exactly what we're doing right now.
We're doing a thing.
Maybe.
I don't know about all the hidden, but.
Yeah.
Well, maybe.
We're definitely sharing.
Well, a lot of this was hidden.
Yeah.
Definitely hidden.
I'm going to bring up, I got my phone in my hand, but not because I'm texting anybody, but because I'm bringing up.
Now, the questions here from I didn't want to.
So, normally I ask our members a day before.
I give them like 24 hours to come up with questions.
But I just didn't at that point feel comfortable putting anything about you out yet until this goes out.
Just don't want to give anybody any reason to go and do anything or say anything preemptively.
This is going to be a bit of a surprise for people, and I want to keep it that way.
But I did reach out to a few friends.
So I got two here.
Okay.
Don't have very many friends, but I don't believe that.
I don't believe that.
But here we go.
We got one from my friend, Jesse Michaels.
Okay.
Interesting question by Jesse.
I asked him to ask any question, and this is what he came up with.
Have you dealt with Kit Green or any other psychiatrist associated with the CIA?
No.
Okay.
No.
Easy answer.
One thing that Jesse might find interesting, though, and this is something we talked about yesterday, you're part of a gifted and talented program when you were a kid.
Yes.
You were a magnet kid.
I went to a high school.
Orlando, Florida.
And I was accepted into the high school in the magnet program for the arts.
I like to draw, paint.
Yeah.
And so I'm a little bit creative with drawing and painting.
And that's how I got on with that.
I eventually moved into television and broadcasting communications as well.
So, yeah, I'm good at editing.
I'm good at creative, creativity.
And I mean, there's kind of a tie into telecommunication here as well.
You're a bit of a broadcaster.
No, I like.
Moving video with audio and some music background.
And I don't know, more or less with music videos for my kids when they're growing up and stuff.
My son was into BMXing and riding with his friend, his friend Chris.
And Katie and Chris would go to the skate park and would do tricks on their bikes.
And I was recording it and I put it together and some of the slow motion shots.
They had fun pulling tricks off with some music background and all lined up.
So the So, when the beat hits is when the back tire hits the ground.
It's pretty cool.
Yeah, it's a lot of fun.
They love it.
Yeah, it turned out pretty good.
But yeah, so I mean, that's an interesting thing because, as Jesse knows, and I'm sure as a lot of people know here, that like the GATE program, the Gift and Talented Education, was somewhat felt like some funnel for the intelligence community, or at least people who were involved in the military in some capacity.
Right.
And there's been many, many cases of that, like that at the top line, like that you go through these.
You know, gifted and talented programs, but then like there's like other levels that you get put into.
Right.
And some people, yeah, have found themselves into a bit of a pathway into the intelligence community.
So it's just interesting that you had that background as well.
It is interesting that military radar or field artillery radar was tied in with the intelligence community.
Yeah.
And a lot of times I was put in charge of our intelligence personnel.
Yeah.
You know, as I got promoted and moved on.
So, yeah, my job was essentially.
Aligned with a lot of the intelligence community.
Yeah.
Cool.
Well, good question, Jesse.
Thanks for asking, but no CIA psychiatrist interaction here.
No.
We have one more question.
It's from my friend Luigi Venditelli.
He asks Do you know of any specific physical procedures used by the Zeta creatures when handling a human?
And now it doesn't have to be specific to the Zeta creatures, but could be to any.
Do you know of a specific procedure that was done?
In my dream, or in what I remember, the flashbacks I was having, I never saw any sharp objects or any medical devices going into me or onto me.
It was mainly, I just felt like it was difficult for me to move.
And I was feeling sharp pains in my neck and my back region, but I couldn't see what was going on with my neck.
I didn't have an out of body experience.
I was in my own body, so I couldn't see what was going on behind me.
And they were off to my peripherals.
Yeah.
So I'm not aware what was going on.
Lower back, mid back, upper back?
It was mid to upper back.
Okay.
And then my neck.
And then your neck.
Right.
Yeah.
Was this prior to any injuries?
Prior to most of my injuries, yes.
Interesting.
Yeah.
You'd think they'd be nice enough to go back there and fix all that stuff, too.
It'd be nice, you know, if.
For tampering, anyways.
Come fix me.
Make my back good.
Yeah.
Great.
All right, sir.
Well, it was an honor talking to you.
It was an honor spending time with you.
And I'm really, really grateful for you coming forward.
One last question for me would be what made you come forward?
Originally, I wanted to protect my family and just kind of live my life.
But, you know, it's one of those things that I'm out of the military.
I'm no longer in the military.
I've still done some defense contracts, but I believe I'm going to start moving away from that and find another passion.
This is why I throw that out, you know.
And in order for me to do that, I need to be completely transparent with everyone.
And so, yeah, this Armed Force Class CJ.
Yeah, CJ is a nickname.
Crazy Jeremy.
But I am Jeremy Weeks.
So I'll come out and say it.
I could lift the veil.
It's time for me to move on and move forward.
And the only way we move forward is by being open and transparent with everyone, open and honest.
Well, I appreciate you very much, Jeremy.
And the world thanks you as well.
Yeah, hopefully, this is the beginning of a really fun and fulfilling.
Rest of your life.
I hope so.
And if you need any help, guidance, or anything I can provide, please feel free to reach out to me.
Absolutely.
You've been really awesome.
And I really appreciate you having me.
Thanks, Jeremy.
Thank you.
We are your creators, altered your evolution over time from the beginning.
You are part of us.
Truth will come to all.
We have been your protectors.
You must prepare to defend yourselves.
I'm not here to tell you that these messages are true.
I'm not here to tell you that these messages are real.
I'm simply relaying the information that was given to me, and perhaps with the help of the internet and everybody watching, we might be able to come to some type of hypothesis as to what these messages mean.
Who they were sent from, or why they were intercepted, if at all, by Sergeant First Class Jeremy Weeks.