Chris Ramsey recounts a 2013 UFO sighting before unveiling a purported June 1947 document by Albert Einstein and Robert Oppenheimer titled "The Relationships with Inhabitants of Celestial Bodies." This text proposes recognizing extraterrestrials as sovereign peoples, warns that unidentified spacecraft could trigger accidental nuclear war, and contrasts Einstein's 1920 openness with his 1952 dismissal. While Ramsey questions whether Oppenheimer's alleged involvement was a cover for reverse engineering or security clearance issues, the episode concludes that confirmed contact would demand profound societal shifts and new international legal frameworks to prevent global catastrophe. [Automatically generated summary]
Transcriber: CohereLabs/cohere-transcribe-03-2026, Qwen/Qwen3-ForcedAligner-0.6B, sat-12l-sm, and large-v3-turbo
|
Time
Text
Flying Cigar Over Canada00:15:18
Yeah, my name is Eric.
Spring of 2013, I was flying from Denver to Saskatchewan, and we were at cruising altitude, just across the border into Canada.
And I see out of the starboard side window, there's this flying cigar, pointed on the end, solid white, no visible means of propulsion, not wavy.
It was perfectly in focus to my eye, going the opposite direction as the same altitude.
And it passed.
It was probably going, I don't know, 700, 800 miles an hour.
And it was very brief.
I saw it and it was gone.
I wish I'd had my phone out.
And we saw cigar shaped UFOs like that with decent regularity.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of Debriefed.
My name is Chris Ramsey.
And today we're going to be reading through a document that was allegedly written in 1947 by none other than Albert Einstein and Robert Einstein.
Oppenheimer.
This document is titled The Relationships with Inhabitants of Celestial Bodies.
Now, because this was written in June 1947, that would have been one month prior to the famous Roswell crash.
But this might have been timely because I believe in June was also the sightings from none other than Kenneth Arnold.
June 24, 1947.
Later, when asked by a reporter to describe how they flew, Arnold said their motion was like saucers skipping over water.
In the papers, the next Day, the world first saw the term flying saucer.
I've seen something, hundreds of pilots have seen something in the skies.
We have dutifully reported these things.
Those were kind of the first mass reported sightings of UFOs, where a fleet of UFOs was spotted as he was flying his airplane.
And it made national headlines and was a bit of a precursor to the UFO craze.
So after hearing all of that, allegedly, Robert Oppenheimer and Albert Einstein got together.
And put together sort of a game plan on what they thought the reason for the extraterrestrial visit might be.
This document just kind of surfaced online.
Nobody really knows the origins of the document.
It didn't actually get released with the MJ 12 leak that was put out by Jamie Shandera and Stanton Friedman.
This was independently released.
Now, obviously, there are a lot of people out there that are going to put this in the hoax basket, which I totally understand, but as you know, You know, Area 52.
And once we're sat in this office with these documents, we'd love to suspend our disbelief because, as you know, belief sometimes gets in the way of a good story.
So I'm looking forward to having a read through.
Now, I know a lot of you were very, very upset that that was the end of the Lacerda files.
And I appreciate all of you for, for, you know, watching that and supporting that.
I had such a fun time reading through it.
And I am currently looking into more.
Discussions and alleged communications between extraterrestrial beings and, you know, some very fortunate humans.
Those documents are sprinkled around the internet.
I have gathered them and I am currently preparing a read through on some heavier stuff regarding these documentations.
But today, this is kind of a buffer.
This one's going to be a little bit of a palate cleanser in regards to the alien agenda.
And we got some other documents here that mention connections between UFOs, aliens, Albert Einstein, Robert Oppenheimer, which will get.
Through prior to the main meet, just to lay the groundwork a little bit.
But before we do this, folks, here's a word from our sponsors.
Oh.
Here at Area 52, we spend our time digging deep into secret projects, unexplained phenomena, and the digital shadows most people don't even know exist.
But the deeper you go, the more eyes are watching.
You see, I'm not just talking about government agencies or beings from Zeta Reticuli.
I'm talking about data brokers.
These faceless companies collect everything about you your searches, your shopping habits, and even your location, then sell it off like it's clear and stay at the Pentagon.
That's why I use Incogni.
You see, Incogni is a real world solution to a very real problem.
You give them permission once, and they start contacting dozens, sometimes hundreds of data brokers on your behalf, forcing them to delete your personal info.
Not hide it, not mask it, delete it.
It's your digital vanish routine, and it works.
So click the link below at incogni.comslash area 52 and use code area 52 to get 60% off an annual plan.
You see, the truth is out there, but your data doesn't have to be.
All right, we paid the bills.
Like this video, subscribe, hit the notification bell, and let's get into it.
So, we're just going to touch on Albert Einstein for a second here.
The first time Einstein was asked about aliens was in the London Daily Mail in January 1920, where he is quoted saying, There is every reason to believe that Mars and other planets are inhabited.
Why should the Earth be the only planet supporting human life?
It is not singular in any other respect.
But if intelligent creatures do exist, as we may assume they do elsewhere in the universe, I should not expect them to try to communicate with the Earth by wireless radio.
Light rays, the direction of which can be controlled much more easily, would more probably be the first method attempted.
So, this statement was made in response to contemporary speculations by radio pioneer Giulielmo Marconi, who had reported receiving mysterious signals he thought might have originated from Mars.
So, you can really see the scientific curiosity that Einstein had during that era.
Regarding life beyond Earth.
So let's fast forward to Roswell.
And Wednesday, July 9th, in 1947, newspaper The Irish Times says this The U.S. War Department stated last night that they were without news of the New Mexico flying saucer and were checking with Roswell.
Professor Einstein told a UP correspondent he had absolutely no comment to make.
How does Einstein go from being open minded to absolutely closed down?
In the April edition of the 1952 Life magazine, there was an article entitled, We Have Visitors from Space.
This kind of kicked off a bit of a flurry of inquisitive minds looking into the UFO and alien phenomenon.
Well, little did they know that July of the same year, that phenomenon would present itself over the Capitol and the White House.
The press went wild with the headlines reading, Saucers Swarm Over Capitol.
And amidst the surge of the public's interest in UFOs, Albert Einstein received a letter.
From Reverend Louis A. Gardner.
Did he believe saucers came from space, specifically Mars or Venus?
Gardner wondered.
Or were UFOs some kind of advanced military technology experiments created by the U.S. Air Force or America's foes?
Well, renowned physicist and celebrity at the time, Albert Einstein responded with his own letter.
So, from the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton, New Jersey, July 23rd, 1952, he writes Dear sir, those people have seen something.
What it is, I do not know, and I am not curious to know.
Sincerely yours, Albert Einstein.
Now, I find it a little bit odd that that would be the entire content of his response.
Being one of the greatest thinkers of our time, it would surprise me to hear that someone of his creative nature, Would even dismiss the topic entirely.
So it does make me question whether or not he was involved with UFOs.
You know, who knows?
Perhaps he wasn't interested and perhaps this interfered with his current theory of relativity.
But I just have a hard time believing Einstein wouldn't be interested in this phenomenon if everybody was reporting on it.
Frank Edwards, an early radio pioneer and author of several UFO books, was giving a lecture to a Detroit, Michigan audience in 1956.
Edwards made statements about Einstein that he believed to be true based upon his sources and his understanding of historical circumstance.
Edwards maintained that just four years prior, in 1952, Albert Einstein had delivered an urgent message to then President Harry Truman.
Einstein warned that Truman's shoot down policy of UFOs over D.C. was unwise.
And I know what Mr. Einstein told him.
He said, Mr. President, anyone who can cross millions of miles of space will be able to take care of himself after he gets there.
Then there was the case of Dr. Shirley Wright.
This is a confession tape by Dr. Wright, who says that she studied under Albert Einstein at Princeton and was, I guess, taken to the crash at Roswell and was given a tour inside the craft, shown the bodies where there lay eight dead and one alive, and even had an exchange and communication with one of these entities.
They indicated to us that they were not from our galaxy, definitely not from our galaxy.
Now, Dr. Wright claims that she was Einstein's assistant, but looking into the files, it doesn't show her as an official assistant, but it does, however, show that she did study under Albert Einstein.
So, very interesting.
Now, let's go over to Oppenheimer, where it gets a little bit more complicated.
You see, Oppenheimer was actually a key figure and served as chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission.
And for those of you in the UFO sphere, you know how important that was when it came to keeping secrets regarding anything that has to do with radioactive material.
Nuclear energy.
To the private sector.
Companies could basically maintain confidentiality over the process, effectively placing control of nuclear related knowledge firmly within their own hands.
Now, we all know Oppenheimer was part of the Manhattan Project, where secretly the world's best physicists got together to create the atomic bomb.
And if you were to create some type of group that were to study, let's say hypothetically, the UFO phenomenon or even retrieve some of these crashed vehicles, You would have to consider Oppenheimer for the task.
Now, I'm going to take you back to January 1950, where a very interesting book was released by none other than Donald Kehoe entitled The Flying Saucers Are Real.
Kehoe was a former U.S. Marine Corps major.
He suggested that the U.S. government was hiding the truth and claimed that high level insiders like Air Force officials had retrieved crashed alien vehicles.
Folks, this is January 1950, only a few years after Roswell.
This guy.
Was on top of it already.
And the only reason I bring this up is because perhaps this might have helped inspire Eleanor Roosevelt, because on May 19th in 1950, she wrote a letter to Robert Oppenheimer.
After interviewing pilots who reported UFO sightings on her television program, Eleanor Roosevelt received materials from a fringe group claiming that UFOs were piloted by interdimensional beings.
This fringe group, known as Borderlands Sciences Research Associates, and she sought Oppenheimer's opinion on the matter.
She asks, Will you please tell me what you know about the enclosed?
Now, The enclosure is not included, but we can deem what was included by Oppenheimer's response on May 19, 1950.
And the letter reads as follows Dear Mrs. Roosevelt, thank you for your good note of May 16.
You sent me a letter to you from Mr. Schultz and some mimeographed material from the Borderland Sciences Research Associates, and you asked me what I knew about it.
The only honest answer is that I know nothing whatever.
Neither the Borderland Associates nor the man who comprises it are known to me, even.
By reputation, the papers all deal with an attempted explanation of the flying disks, and they all start with the assurance that there were such things.
This, of course, I do not believe.
Some very solemn attempts were made to see whether there are any physical happenings corresponding to the many reports of flying disks.
It has been reported in the press that the Air Forces made such an investigation.
There is not any credible evidence.
And certainly, the kind of explanation proposed by the Borderland Associates does not lead one to believe in the phenomenon they are trying to explain.
There is perhaps one thing one can learn it is not just that men, and even their accounts of what they see and experience, are fallible and subject to error.
It is that arriving at the truth can often be a more difficult and troublesome thing than we might like to think.
During the war, very shortly before the test of the first atomic bomb, people at Los Alamos were naturally in a state of some tension.
I remember one morning when almost the whole project was out of the doors.
Staring at a bright object in the sky through glasses, binoculars, and whatever else they could find.
A nearby Kirtland Field reported to us that they had no interceptors which had enabled them to come within range of the object.
Our director of personnel was an astronomer and a man of some human wisdom, and he finally came to my office and asked whether we could stop trying to shoot down Venus.
I tell this story only to indicate that even a group of scientists is not proof against the errors of suggestion and hysteria.
With every warm, Good wish, Robert Oppenheimer.
That is an official letter from Robert Oppenheimer.
And to me, that is unsatisfactory.
I know what you're thinking out there if you're a skeptic.
You're like, well, there you go.
He wasn't involved.
I mean, if you'd asked him if he was involved in the Manhattan Project prior to that, he would have also had to say, I don't even know what you're talking about.
So we can't assume that he wasn't involved based on him saying, I wasn't involved.
He was involved in secret projects.
Also, that prominent astronomer that he's referring to is.
Probably none other than the famed debunker and MJ 12 founding member, Howard Menzel.
This guy's entire job was to cover up and suppress anything related to UFOs.
Trying to prove whether or not these things come from outer space or not.
It's clear that they don't.
And if you want to know more about Robert Oppenheimer's involvement in the AEC, I highly suggest you go check out American Alchemy, who does various deep dives on Robert Oppenheimer's involvement, T. Townsend Brown, and just basically the U.S. government's.
Oversight on UFOs breaching our very sensitive airspace and especially next to these nuclear bases.
Now, there have been other mentions of Oppenheimer's involvement.
The crash at Aztec by Steinman.
He does briefly mention Oppenheimer being tangentially related to this somehow and suggests that he might have even been part of a crash retrieval team.
UFO researcher Donald Burleson had also put out a book entitled UFO Secrecy and the Fall of J. Robert Oppenheimer.
Laws for Extraterrestrial Life00:05:18
You know, the credibility of that is still highly debated among skeptics and believers alike.
So, take with that a grain of salt.
But today, again, just saying, we're just going to read through it and act as though it is true and see what we can take away from some of the smartest men to ever live talking about one of the most important subjects of mankind.
I'm pretty excited about this.
Let's go.
All right.
June 1947, the relationships with inhabitants of celestial bodies.
Relationships with extraterrestrial men present no basically new problem from the standpoint of international law, but the possibility of confronting intelligent beings that do not belong to the human race would bring up problems whose solution it is difficult to conceive.
In principle, there is no difficulty in accepting the possibility of coming to an understanding with them and of establishing all kinds of relationships.
The difficulty lies in trying to establish the principles on which these relationships should be based.
In the first place, it would be necessary to establish communication with them through some language or other, and afterwards, as a first condition for all intelligence, that they should have a psychology similar to that of men.
At any rate, international law should make place for a new law on a different basis, and it might be called law among planetary peoples, following the guidelines found in the Pentateuch.
What's that?
Pentateuch?
Looking at Pentateuch refers to the first five books of the Bible.
I see.
So, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.
Okay.
So, obviously, the idea of revolutionizing international law to the point where it would be capable of coping with new situations would compel us to make a change in its structure, a change so basic that it would no longer be international law.
That is to say, as it is conceived today, but something altogether different, so that it could no longer bear the same name.
So, essentially, he's just saying that we would have to rewrite how we.
Even have like our most fundamental laws because we would have to include this extraterrestrial life.
We continue.
If these intelligent beings were in possession of a more or less culture and a more or less perfect political organization, they would have an absolute right to be recognized as independent and sovereign peoples.
We would have to come to an agreement with them to establish the legal regulations upon which future relationships should be based, and it would be necessary to accept many of their principles.
All right, so basically, they're taking the side of compromise here.
They are a people, they are sentient, they have rights, they probably have their own laws, and how do we integrate theirs with ours?
Finally, if they should reject all peaceful cooperation and become an imminent threat to the earth, we would have the right to legitimate defense, but only insofar as would be necessary to annul this danger.
Really interesting so far.
Another possibility may exist.
That a species of Homo sapiens might have established themselves as an independent nation on another celestial body in our solar system and evolved culturally independently from ours.
Obviously, this possibility depends on many circumstances, whose conditions cannot yet be foreseen.
However, we can make a study of the basis on which such a thing might have occurred.
Okay, so now basically they'll start speculating on what if humans lived on another celestial body in this solar system, i.e., Mars or Venus.
And grew up with a different cultural society.
How would that affect their laws?
And now we get into some speculative territory, which I'm all about.
In the first place, living conditions on these bodies, let's say the moon or the planet Mars, would have to be such as to permit a stable and to a certain extent independent life from an economic standpoint.
Much has been speculated about the possibilities for life existing outside of our atmosphere and beyond, always hypothetically.
And there are those who go so far as to give formulas for the creation of an artificial atmosphere on the moon, which undoubtedly. have a certain scientific foundation and which may one day come to light.
This also, you have to remember, this was before the moon landing.
This was before we had satellites, right?
So we're thinking it might be possible to live on the moon and create some artificial atmosphere or on Mars.
Let's assume that magnesium silicates on the moon may exist and contain up to 13% water.
Using energy and machines brought to the moon, perhaps from a space station, the rocks could be broken up, pulverized, and then backed To drive off the water of crystallization, this could be collected and then decomposed into hydrogen and oxygen using an electric current or the shortwave radiation of the sun.
The oxygen could be used for breathing purposes.
The hydrogen might be used as fuel.
Okay, you let me know if that makes sense because I'm that's a little above my pay grade over here.
All right, we are investigators, we're not physicists, scientists, or chemists, or biologists, or well, anything of consequence.
United Nations and Celestial Colonies00:08:22
Honestly, we're just reading documents, but you guys.
Definitely chime in if you know what that means.
In any case, if no existence is possible on celestial bodies except for the enterprises for the exploration of their natural riches, with a continuous interchange of the men who work on them, unable to establish themselves there indefinitely and be able to live isolated life, independence will never take place.
Now we come to the problem of determining what to do if the inhabitants of the celestial bodies or extraterrestrial biological entities, EBEs, Same wording as the MJ 12 documents, by the way.
So, does that prove that this is real or does that make this a hoax?
You know, some people believe the MJ 12 documents to be real.
If you're curious about that, I made a video sort of introducing you to those documents because there are plenty.
Have a look at that.
Okay.
Number one, if they are politically organized and possess a certain culture similar to our own, they may be recognized as an independent people.
They could consider what degree of development would be required on Earth for colonizing.
Okay, so that's one speculative sort of situation or scenario is that maybe they're just reconning this place for what they need for colonizing.
Number two, if they consider our culture to be devoid of political unity, they would have the right to colonize.
Of course, this colonization cannot be conducted on classic lines.
Okay, so if they see us having too much strife and they see all the battles happening here, it'll Sort of give them the right to come and colonize and take over and clean up this mess.
A superior form of colonizing will have to be conceived.
That could be a kind of tutelage, possibly through the tacit approval of the United Nations.
But would the United Nations legally have the right of allowing such tutelage over us in such a fashion?
Very strange to consider that they're like, well, they have the right to colonize.
Slippery slope.
A. Although the United Nations is an international organization, there is no doubt that it would have no right of tutelage, since its domain does not extend beyond relationships between its members.
It would have the right to intervene only if the relationships of a member nation with a celestial body affected another member nation with an extraterrestrial people is beyond the domain of the United Nations.
But if these relationships entailed a conflict with another member nation, the United Nations would have the right to intervene.
So basically, only if a member nation were to attack another member nation could the UN intervene.
B. If the United Nations were a supranational organization, it would have competency to deal with all problems related to extraterrestrial peoples.
Of course, even though it is merely an international organization, it could have this competence if its member states would be willing to recognize it.
Okay.
It is difficult to predict what the attitude of international law will be with regard to the occupation by the celestial peoples of certain locations on our planet.
But the only thing that can be foreseen is that there will be a profound change in traditional concepts.
Yeah, I would think so.
We cannot exclude the possibility that a race of extraterrestrial people, more advanced technologically and economically, may take upon itself the right to occupy another celestial body.
How then would this occupation come about?
By the way, I believe this letter was written for the president, but pending approval.
And this was written in June 47, so this would have been written to Harry Truman at the time.
They're kind of just speculating what the international law would be in regards to the occupation of celestial peoples.
So, number one, the idea of exploitation by one celestial state would be rejected.
They may think it would be advisable to grant it to all others capable of reaching another celestial body, but this would be to maintain a situation of privilege for these states.
Two, the division of a celestial body into zones and the distribution of them among.
Oh, I see, I see.
Okay, hold on.
So they're trying to predict what it would look like if they were to come here and demand, you know, some type of sovereignty over the land or demand, you know, that they acquired some of our land in this colonization effort.
And this is kind of what that would look like.
So, one, the idea of exploitation by one celestial state would be rejected.
2.
The division of a celestial body into zones and the distribution of them among other celestial states.
This would be present the problem of distribution.
Moreover, other celestial states would be deprived of the possibility of owning an area, or if they were granted one, it would involve complicated operations.
3.
Indivisible co sovereignty, giving each celestial state the right to make whatever use is most convenient to its interest independently of others.
This would create a situation of anarchy.
The strongest one would win out in the end.
And four, a moral entity?
The most feasible solution, it seems, would be this one submit an agreement providing for the peaceful absorption of a celestial race in such a manner that our culture would remain intact with guarantees that their presence not be revealed.
Whoa.
Actually, we do not believe it necessary to go that far.
It would merely be a matter of internationalizing celestial peoples and creating an international treaty instrument preventing exploitation of all nations belonging to the United Nations.
Okay, so kind of giving them land and being like, just don't interfere with our stuff, leave us alone, or go underground, I guess.
I don't know.
Occupation by states here on Earth, which has lessened all interest for international law.
Since there were no more res nullius territories, not sure what that means, is beginning to regain all its importance in cosmic international law.
Occupation consists in the appropriation by a state of res nullius.
What is res nullius?
A thing of no one, or property belonging to no one.
I see.
Appropriation by a state of which has less all interest for international law, since there were no more res nullius territories.
So there are no states that belong to no one.
You can't give them that, obviously.
Until the last century, occupation was the normal means of acquiring sovereignty over territories.
When explorations made possible the discovery of new regions, either uninhabited or in an elementary state of civilization, the imperialist expansion of the states came to an end with the end of regions capable of being occupied, which have now been drained from the earth and exist only in interplanetary space where the celestial states present new problems.
Okay.
So they're saying there's nothing left to give them here.
The only things that aren't claimed are the celestial bodies.
Res nullius is something that belongs to nobody, such as the moon.
In international law, a celestial body is not subject to the sovereignty of any state, it is considered res nullius.
If it could be established that a celestial body within our solar system, such as our moon, was or is occupied by another celestial race, there could be no claim of res nullius by any state on Earth.
If that state should decide in the future to send explorers to lay claim to it, it would exist as res communis, that is, that all celestial states have the same rights over it.
And now to the final question of whether the presence of celestial astroplanes in our atmosphere is a direct result of our testing atomic weapons.
The presence of unidentified spacecraft flying in our atmosphere and possibly maintaining orbits about our planet is now, however, accepted as de facto by our military.
Okay.
That's a bold claim by Oppenheimer and Einstein right there, if true.
Radar Protocols for UFOs00:09:00
On every question of whether the United States will continue testing of fission bombs and develop fusion devices, hydrogen bombs, or reach an agreement to disarm and the exclusion of weapons that are too destructive.
With the exception of chemical warfare, on which by some miracle we cannot explain, an agreement has been reached.
The lamentations of philosophers, the efforts of politicians, and the conferences of diplomats have been doomed to failure and have accomplished nothing.
The use of the atomic bomb combined with space vehicles poses a threat on a scale which makes it absolutely necessary to come to an agreement in this area.
With the appearance of unidentified space vehicles, opinions are sharply divided as to their origin.
Over the skies of Europe and the United States has sustained an ineradical fear, that is, an anxiety about security that is driving the great powers to make an effort to find a solution to the threat.
Okay, basically, these people are scrambling right now.
Governments are jumping on this thing.
Like, what do we do?
How do we contain it?
How do we exploit it?
How do we control it?
Where do we put it?
What do we do with it?
What do we tell the public?
All of the above.
Military strategists foresee the use of spacecraft with nuclear warheads as the ultimate weapon of war.
Even the deployment of artificial satellites for intelligence gathering and target selection is not far off.
The military importance of space vehicles, satellites, as well as rockets is indisputable, since they project war from the horizontal plane to the vertical plane in its fullest sense.
Attack no longer comes from an exclusive direction nor from a determined country, but from the sky, with the practical impossibility of determining who the aggressor is.
How to intercept the attack, or how to effect immediate reprisals.
These problems are compounded further by identification.
How does the air defense radar operator identify or, more precisely, classify this target?
Great questions.
Now, this is interesting that we're mentioning satellites because the first satellite, I think, was like the Sputnik in like 1957.
And so the fact that they're mentioning satellites here is kind of interesting.
This is supposed to be 1947.
So unless they know something we don't, or this is a hoax, you know.
However, the idea of satellites did exist in 1947, but only among forward thinking scientists and military planners, but no Artificial satellites had been launched yet, and most people wouldn't have been aware of them.
I see.
So these ideas were already being floated around by the scientific elite and military establishments.
Very interesting.
So, not debunked.
Thought I got them on that one.
At the present, we can breathe a little easier knowing that slow moving bombers are the mode of delivery of atomic bombs that can be detected by long range early warning radar.
But what do we do in, let's say, 10 years from now, when artificial satellites and missiles find their place in space?
We must consider the potential threat that unidentified spacecraft pose.
One must consider the fact that misidentification of these spacecraft for an intercontinental missile in a re entry phase of flight could lead to accidental nuclear war with horrible consequences.
That's very interesting because there is actually an agreement between Russia and the United States.
And in that agreement, they speak about unidentified aerial phenomenon being mistaken for a potential nuke.
So, in the event that A UFO shows up on either radar of either country, they must notify each other and ask each other if that was them, which I find completely ludicrous because if you were to launch a missile, you know, and they ask you, hey, is that a UFO?
Like you would probably say, yeah, yeah, it's a UFO.
Don't worry about it.
But he makes a fair point here, obviously.
Very smart man.
Lastly, we should consider the possibility that our atmospheric tests of late could have influenced the arrival of celestial scrutiny.
They could have been curious or even alarmed by such activity.
And rightly so, for the Russians would make every effort to observe and record such tests.
And I mean, you know, that's the thing.
When people say, well, why are there so many sightings in the United States?
Oh, it's so weird that it's in the United States.
I mean, it isn't that weird when you think about it.
Who is the nuclear power of the world?
But not only nuclear, who was developing radar before anyone else?
Who was playing with high powered lasers?
Who is launching the most satellites?
And where would that be happening?
Well, it would be happening probably up and around Los Alamos, in Sandia Labs or White Sands.
That's where you would want to be if you were observing this planet and figuring out what it is we're doing.
That's where you would show up.
That's where you would crash.
In conclusion, it is our professional opinion, based on submitted data, that this situation is extremely perilous.
And measures must be taken to rectify a very serious problem.
Are very apparent.
Respectfully, Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer, Director of Advanced Studies at Princeton, and Professor Albert Einstein, Princeton.
His response is recorded, or the response here is recorded underneath this letter, and it says Myself and Marshall have read this, and I must admit there is some logic, but I hardly think the president will consider it for obvious reasons.
I understand Oppenheimer approached Marshall while they attended ceremony at.
Redacted.
As I understand it, Marshall rebuffed the idea of Oppenheimer discussing this with the president.
I replied to Gordon and he agreed.
Okay.
Basically saying, not sure we should send this to the president.
But all of that might be for naught because one month later, there would be a crash, at least one crash, if not two, in Roswell, New Mexico.
Eight months later, a crash in Aztec, New Mexico.
And several UFO investigators would be born and we would begin the.
Long history of ufologists and the study of UFOs and the infernal, incessant, and eternal battle that is fought between them and the powers that be.
That was an interesting read.
I hope you enjoyed this little read through.
Shorter video than you're used to.
However, I thought it was very, very interesting nonetheless.
Again, I think I would find that Oppenheimer would be possibly more involved in the UAP or UFO subject than Albert Einstein was.
Albert Einstein's refusal to be part of the Manhattan Project probably signaled to the US government that he could not be trusted.
And there is the other question, however, because Oppenheimer was brought into court for apparently speaking with the enemy.
Was that a front to, you know, when his security clearances were stripped?
Was that just a front while he was sort of backdoor reverse engineering these crafts and maybe the heat was taken off him?
I don't know.
Or was he completely excluded from any UFO talks?
But there are many, many scientists of that age, of that era, that were possibly involved, including all of the members or some of the members of MJ 12, you know, like.
You had Dr. Vannevar Bush and Detlef Gronk, and I mean, so many others, but there's clearly an interest in UFOs.
And if you were part of the government back then, or the Air Force, or what have you, seeing something or hearing something as alarming as a UFO crash in Roswell and the sightings of Kenneth Arnold, and then subsequently the crash at Aztec and all these other things, Stories that would start surfacing, you would have to take an interest.
And obviously, they did.
They formed Project Grudge, which turned into Project Blue Book.
But there were so many other facets of the military, Air Force, Navy that were affected by the ongoings post nuclear threat.
Everyone was on high alert back then.
Stress of the Nuclear Era00:02:44
I can't imagine really how stressful that was as a time.
You know, if you speak to your grandparents or maybe your parents or maybe your great grandparents, what it was like back then to live in the Cold War when, you know, you would hear.
Sirens going off as a training exercise for you to duck under your table to prepare for a nuclear blast.
I mean, that must have been just the most terrifying thing.
Imagine bringing your kids to school knowing that the Russians at any point could drop bombs and just completely obliterate everything you hold dear.
I mean, that must have been incredibly frightening.
It was a very tense time in the United States.
You know, we have it really, really well right now.
We feel, although there are still conflicts obviously happening across the globe, I feel like the threat of nuclear war.
Although it is never really gone, definitely hasn't escalated to the point that it was in the Cold War.
And I pray and I hope and I, you know, I just, I wish that we never get to that point.
It's good to take a second to be thankful for what we have and thankful for what we are not being subjected to.
I think these things will probably be taught in school eventually.
That is my faith that, like, a lot of.
The material that we're covering, once we find out that this might be real, we're going to have to rewrite how we teach our children.
You know, when mass sightings begin happening or anything of that nature, you know, if that ever is the case, then we do have to adjust.
As they said, our society is going to shift.
Let me know what your thoughts are.
Do you think this is real?
Do you think this is BS?
Are you team, you know, crash retrieval or team?
Fact suppression.
I'm just kidding.
Let me know your thoughts.
I'm curious to know them.
Guys, if you don't mind, leave a like.
Come check out our Discord, totally free to join there where the conversation continues.
But if you want to get a little bit deeper, obviously, you can head over to either our Patreon at patreon.comslash Area 52 Investigations or keep it right here and join the membership where you get a ton of perks.
And I mean a ton.
I am weekly posting over there vlogs, behind the scenes.
We got movie night, we got book club, we got all sorts of amazing things.
Happening over at the internship.
So check it out, folks.
I appreciate your time.
I appreciate you being here.
Also, we just launched some new stuff on the website, which you're always welcome to shop on.
Thanks for watching, and we'll see you on the next video.