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Sept. 18, 2001 - Bill Cooper
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Bush and Bin Laden
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You're listening once again to the Hour of the Time.
the review of the book George W. Bush.
Thank you for watching.
Please see the complete book review at www.pissedconsumer.com So, you might want to listen very, very carefully, and I guarantee you, you're going to be
You're going to wake up, you're going to be shocked, you're going to be angry, and then
some things are going to begin to make a whole lot of sense that never made any sense before.
So, let's get started.
So, let's get started.
Ladies and gentlemen, shortly after our Ladies and gentlemen, shortly after our
Ladies and gentlemen, shortly after our George Herbert Walker Bush, that's the father of the current President, who was
Our President, at another point in our recent history, was deeply involved in the fiasco at the Bay of Pigs.
Now, all of this stuff is on record.
It's been published in many, many books and reports and articles, you know, for years.
So, you're going to have to go and look that up.
Some of it can be researched on our website.
There are some stories at the end of the one that we have on our exclusives page entitled, America's New War.
If you click on every single one of those links at the end of that story and read all of the text within those stories in separate newspapers and news services and websites, you will begin to pick up the web and you will be referred to other links and sources So that you can verify all of this material for yourself.
We've given that to you.
In my book, Behold a Pale Horse, you can see some of the history of President George Herbert Walker Bush in connection with the Central Intelligence Agency, the drugs in the Golden Triangle, the connection between the Iran-Contra affair, drugs Oliver North, Admiral Poindexter, and a whole bunch of other things.
that tremendous financial conglomerate known as Bank of Credit and Commerce International,
otherwise known to researchers as BCCI.
The Central Intelligence Agency, under George Herbert Walker Bush, and later under Vice
President George Herbert Walker Bush, and even later under President George H. W. Bush,
George Herbert Walker Bush assisted the Afghani freedom fighters in Afghanistan against the invasion and occupation of their country by the Soviet Union.
In order to create the elements that was needed to bind the various Islamic sex groups and different tribal affiliations Under one concerted cause to fight the Soviet Union, the Central Intelligence Agency corrupted the religion of Islam and taught this corrupted version to special leaders that they recruited in order to teach it to others in cooperation with the Pakistani SIS, that's their secret intelligence service.
A lot of these schools and a lot of this instruction was conducted within the borders of Pakistan and in Afghanistan by operatives of the Central Intelligence Agency from America's SEAL Teams and Special Forces sent to Afghanistan by the Special Operations Division of the Department of Defense, also known as the Special Operations Group, or SOG.
All of this, too, is a matter of record.
A friend and business partner of the Bush family for many years, the senior Bin Laden sent his son to help in this effort.
The younger Osama Bin Laden was recruited by the Central Intelligence Agency, trained by them as one of these special leaders to teach the corrupted version of Islam, the corrupted version that convinced all of these young hot-blooded Muslims that they should participate in a specific jihad, or holy war, against the Soviet Union.
Arms were furnished by the Central Intelligence Agency, and there were Advisors from the United States of America with these people as they fought the war against the Soviets for all of those years.
Now, for that as a background, and most of it already published and in the public domain, in many different books, in many different papers, many different reports, has come out in Senate and House investigating committees during their questioning.
A lot of it came out during the so-called Iran-Contra affair, and in a whole lot of other investigations in and out of government.
Most of you already know these things.
Those of you who don't, you're going to have to spend some time reading, researching, and catching up.
Tonight, I'm going to give you some information that I have independently confirmed through my own research, and others have also independently confirmed in their own research, and you will find in various reports and documents and books, much of which can be found on the Internet.
Tonight, I'm going to quote to you from a book entitled, Fortunate Son.
Written by J. H. Hatfield.
J. H. Hatfield.
When this book was first published, ladies and gentlemen, the copies extant, or already out to the public sector, were rounded up somewhat mysteriously.
The publisher withdrew their support of the book.
The plates used for printing the book were smashed, and the book was The way they say it in the publishing business, put up on the shelf.
I'm going to begin quoting from a chapter entitled, Ties That Bind, beginning on page 54, second to the last paragraph.
George W.' 's early days, or early years, in Midland, Texas coincided with heady days for West Texas, touched off by the 1973
Arab oil embargo, as the price of crude eventually soared to more than $30 a barrel, and economists predicted it would go even higher.
The Junior Bush desperately wanted a bigger piece of the action, to strike it rich like his father did years earlier, but without using any of his own money.
In June 1977, he formed his own drilling company, Arbusto Energy.
Arbusto in Spanish means bush.
Like his father, who made his fortune in the oil business with the money of others, George W. founded Arbusto with the financial backing of investors including James R. Bath, B-A-T-H, a Houston businessman whom Bush apparently first met when they were in the same Texas Air National Guard unit.
Tax documents and personal financial records in the public sector show that Bath, an aircraft broker with business ties to Saudi Arabia sheiks, had invested $50,000 in Arbusto, granting him a 5% interest in two limited partnerships which were controlled by Bush.
In one of the most bizarre footnotes to history, Time Magazine described Bath in 1991 as a deal broker whose alleged associations run from the Central Intelligence Agency to a major shareholder and director of the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, also known as BCCI, as it was more commonly known.
It was closed down in July 1991 amid charges of multi-billion dollar fraud and worldwide news reports that the institution had been involved in covert intelligence work, drug money laundering, arms brokering, bribery of government officials and aid to terrorists.
And I can tell you that's all true.
An accounting commissioned by the Bank of England finally exposed the extent of BCCI's and criminal offenses forcing the bank's eventual collapse.
Bath was never directly implicated in the DCCI scandal, but according to the Outlaw Bank, an award-winning 1993 book by Time correspondents Jonathan Beattie and S.C.
Gwynne, Bath originally made his fortune by investing money for Sheikh Khalid Bin That's Sheikh Khalid bin Mahfuz and another BCCI-connected Saudi, Sheikh bin Laden.
Allegedly, and he absolutely is, it's not allegedly, allegedly at all, the father of none other than Osama bin Laden, the man accused by the U.S.
government of masterminding the August 1998 terrorist bombings Of the American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, which killed more than 250 people, and now the mastermind of the attacks upon the Pentagon and the North and South Towers of the World Trade Center buildings in New York City.
According to news reports, in a 1976 trust agreement drawn shortly after Bush's father was appointed Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, now listen closely, Saudi Sheikh Salem M. Bin Laden appointed Bath as his business representative in Texas.
Bin Laden, along with his brothers, owned Bin Laden Brothers Construction, one of the largest construction companies in the Middle East.
In a 1991 deposition, Bath testified he was the sole director of Skyway Aircraft Leasing Ltd., a Houston company owned by Caleb Ben Mahouz.
Ben Mahouz had been a major shareholder in the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, which had been accused of using Mideast oil money to seek ties to political leaders in other countries throughout the 1970s and the 1980s.
According to court documents that are on public record, Bath also swore that in 1977 he represented four prominent and wealthy Saudi Arabians as a trustee and used his name on their investments in the United States.
In return, he received a five percent interest in their deals.
Federal authorities, the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, and the FBI later investigated
Bath after allegations.
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Federal authorities, the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, and the FBI later investigated Ba'ath after allegations were made by one of his American business partners that the Saudis were using Ba'ath and their enormous financial sources to influence United States policy.
Time reporters Beattie and Gwynne suggest in their book that the $50,000 Bath invested in George W.'
's Arbusto Energy Drilling Company may have belonged to Bath's Saudi clients since the Houston businessmen had no money of his own at the time.
The truth is, the only source of his investment money was from the Saudi investors whose names I have already quoted to you.
Ironically, the money used to underwrite the first business venture of a possible future President of the United States may have been derived at least in part from the family fortune of Saudi terrorist Osama Bin Laden.
In 1990, in an attempt to distance himself and his presidential father from the growing BCCI scandal, George W. Bush stated in an interview that neither he nor the elder Bush had ever conducted business with James Bass.
It was a bold-faced lie.
Junior went on record at the time as saying that he met the Houston businessman in 1970 when both were fighter pilots at the Air National Guard base at Ellington Air Force Base.
President Bush, quote, knows Bath the way he knows thousands of people, end quote, his son told the press.
And the two men could not be considered good friends.
Another bold-faced lie.
Quote, I've never done business with him, and I know the President hasn't either.
End quote.
Another bold-faced lie.
Because, ladies and gentlemen, a few months later, the release of tax documents and personal financial records into the public sector forced George W. Bush to admit that Bath had indeed been one of our Busto Energy's original investors.
Bush said that, to his knowledge, Bass's investment was from personal funds, and no available evidence existed to determine that the money came from Saudi interests except for the fact that no personal funds of that magnitude could ever, ever be located or ever be found on record to have belonged to Mr. Bass.
A lot of questions remain unanswered as to Bass Moody's behind his investment in George W.' 's first business venture, but in light of the record of George W.'
's father, George Herbert Walker Bush, his involvement with the recruiting and training of Osama Bin Laden, his friendship with the Bin Laden family, and many other wealthy and well-placed Saudi Arabians in the Middle East.
His involvement, his deep involvement in the oil industry, both in the United States and in the Middle East, and his involvement with the Central Intelligence Agency, has convinced an awful lot of people that that whole financial enterprise, to be able to invest money into George W.' 's fledgling business
was not only influenced but probably set up through the influence of his father, George
Herbert Walker Bush.
In 1933, Bush was asked to write a book on the history of the United States, and he did.
the the
In 1934, Bush was asked to write a book on the history of the
the Taking your calls.
520-333-4578 is the number.
What do you think about what you just heard?
Not what you just heard, but I know many of you have been looking into these things for many years, have actually been involved in Some of the research that is disclosed, some of the things that I've just revealed to you over this broadcast.
You've also heard some of it over other broadcasts, on videotapes, on special television reports, on such things as the Freedom of Speech Network.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Yeah, uh, uh, Phil?
Yeah?
I'll tell you what, I'm not surprised.
I kept telling everybody where I worked at during the election that Bush was hooked up in that BCCI.
Oh absolutely, his father was.
Oh yeah, they filed bankruptcy down there.
Them guys are in that stuff.
And I tell you what, I'd like to have a copy of that information you just put out.
How can I get it and what do I got to do to get it?
Go order the books called Fortunate Son by J.H.
Hatfield.
Let me write this down.
I'm excited about it.
It's a biography of George W. Bush, and it is full of facts.
There's only one part of this book that I'm going to caution you against, and that's the part at the end where he uses anonymous sources whom he does not name, so that you cannot check on any of it, to claim that Bush was a habitual cocaine user.
Uh-huh.
Well, Bill, the good Lord just brought it to my attention.
About two weeks ago, somebody died who wrote a biography, committed suicide.
Is this that guy?
I have no idea.
I haven't heard about him.
Well, Bill, check it out.
I heard it one day while I was cutting grass.
But I said, man, that's very interesting.
This guy committed suicide.
It's a suicide.
Now, I don't know who it was.
Somebody wrote a biography on this man.
And now he's dead.
He hasn't been dead no more than, I would say, about three to four weeks ago.
Well, unless you can tell who it was that committed suicide, and where you saw it at, it's just rumor, isn't it?
Well, if you want to call it rumor, but it's going to come out, and when it comes out, I'm going to let you know, because I'm not exaggerating.
I heard it on a regular radio station, not a shortwave station.
They gave it right over.
I just wish I remembered the guy that wrote the biography.
It was him that wrote the story about one of the Bushes.
He died.
That much I do know.
I didn't make no mistake hearing about it.
Okay.
But if you want to count it as a rumor, that's all right.
Unless you can tell us the name of the person and the source from which you got the information, it is a rumor.
That's the definition of a rumor.
Okay.
Now, the name of this book again is... Fortunate Son.
Fortunate Son by... J. H. Hatfield.
And I can go get it at a bookstore.
I don't know where you can get it.
I know if you look for it, it's in print, you can find it.
I'm going to try to find it.
I'm not surprised at all, Bill.
I knew about that BCCI.
I kept telling people at work about that.
I said, between Bush and Gore, like George Wallace said years ago, not a dime's worth of difference.
Wasn't a dime's worth of difference.
You're right about that, except it shrank to a nickel.
Alright, nice talking to you, brother.
Thanks for calling.
520-333-4578.
Phones are open.
Good evening on the air.
Oh, how you doing, Bill?
Yeah.
Yeah, um, as an addendum to your research, I think what is interesting is that, um, why Bush is so close to Putin is that, uh, his great-grandfather, um, George Herbert Walker, um, was one of the people that helped, um, finance the Bolsheviks through the, uh, corporation, the American International Corporation, which I think is an interesting footnote.
But I just want to thank you for your, uh, Great, we research on this particular problem.
I think, you know, we hear in the media on CNN, you know, on the Communist News Networks and NBC and some of these other, you know, media outlets.
You know, we just hear that, you know, Ben Laden is the main suspect and everything, and we don't get the full picture, you know, and I think that, you know, you claw us in in terms of, like, what's really going on.
Don't you think it's funny that they've been looking for him for so many years and can never find him?
Now, all of a sudden they're accusing him of blowing up the twin towers of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, and now they claim that they know exactly where he is and they're following him by satellite.
Now, how did that happen?
Right.
And all these journalists, you know, going over there to interview him and stuff, and it's like they don't know where he is, but the journalists can find him, but the CIA can't.
Yeah, and supposedly Timothy McVeigh could, too.
Sure.
Or Terry Nichols.
Right.
OK.
Thanks a lot, Bill.
You're welcome.
Bye.
And I got news for you guys.
I've, you know, read quite a bit about Terry Nichols and studied him in our investigation, and Terry Nichols probably couldn't find his own rear end, you know, in a dark tent at high noon.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
How you doing, Mr. Cooper?
Good.
I have a question.
They're going to have a war on terrorism?
That's what they say.
But if it's anything like the war on drugs, it's really a war on the Bill of Rights.
Yeah, I was wondering, who are they going to define as a terrorist?
Probably me.
See, that's what I'm worried about.
Because they're calling up, what, 35,000 reservists for homeland defense.
50,000.
50,000.
Yeah, 50,000 for homeland defense, and I'm like, what does that mean?
Yeah, what does it mean?
Who are they going to defend against?
I mean, they've already admitted that they can't keep track of terrorists, and you can't stop a terrorist attack if they're really committed to making the attack.
All you can do is track them down afterwards and, you know, terrorize them, or the people where they live, or something.
I mean, this is ridiculous.
Yeah, I'm just worried that in all this hysteria that's been created, Folks like us are going to get lumped together with mid-eastern folks and we're going to be taken away to God knows where.
I told you that years ago.
Why is everybody so shocked when they see it perhaps starting to happen?
I was listening to another talk show and this guy claims that within a week or two that they're going to round up somewhere around 100,000 folks.
This guy, he wouldn't name his story, so it's a rumor.
Well, not only is it a rumor, but he's probably dead wrong.
They probably will get around to doing it, but nobody knows when.
But I guarantee it's not going to be in the next couple of weeks.
Okay, thanks a lot, Mr. Cooper.
You're welcome.
520-333-4577.
520-333-4577. That was probably Alex Jones.
Good evening and on the air.
Hi, Mr. Cooper.
I've listened to you for quite a few years.
I'm Joe in West Virginia.
Hi, Joe.
I'm really impressed with the research that you do, and tonight you've startled me, because for many years I had respected Clark Clifford, and I think that he was involved with that BCCI.
He was heavily involved with BCCI and had a seat on the board of directors.
Yeah, and I think that he was about to be indicted.
And they decided that due to his ill health, they wouldn't proceed with the indictment.
Yep, you're right.
I'm kind of foggy about that, but I thought maybe you would be able to tell me more about how Clark Clifford fits into all that.
Yeah, he had a seat on the board of directors of BCCI.
He was one of the directors.
Thanks very much.
You're welcome.
Welcome. 520-333-4578 is the number, and it's your turn to call. Good evening.
You're on the air.
Hi, Bill.
Yeah.
It's Monty from Radio Free Vermont.
Hi, Monty.
Hi, there.
I was just looking up Mr. Hatfield on the internet, and I noticed it's on the Barnes & Noble website, and... That means his book is sold by Barnes & Noble.
Right, and it was updated for after the 2001 election cycle, and there's also a note here, an annotation A statement from the publisher dated July 23rd of 2001 which clarifies the previous call you had about the suicide.
Uh-huh.
Can I read you a quick paragraph?
If it's about that so-called suicide, yeah, go ahead.
Okay, it says, quote, We have been reeling from the news since Friday.
Jim Hatfield is gone.
In a country where not enough reporters and talking heads have the courage to speak truth to power, Mr. Hatfield, the President's most controversial biographer, ended his own life in solitude in an Arkansas motel last week.
Let me assure you that I have spoken on many occasions with Mr. Hatfield in previous years because of his research and mine paralleling each other quite a bit.
Mr. Hatfield would not have committed suicide under any circumstances.
If he's dead, somebody murdered him.
And I am just absolutely astounded that because of the publicity given his book when it first came out, and the fact that it was removed from the shelves almost immediately, and taken out of circulation, that his death was not announced on the major news.
And it wasn't.
I think if I recall, I remember seeing like a brief snippet about it, like a brief UPI wire re... ...book that Bush Camp successfully stifled when it was first published in 99.
Oh yeah, they pulled it right off the shelves.
Almost as soon as it got on the shelves, it was pulled.
It says in here that they... And all the copies were stacked in a pile and burned.
It's not surprising.
It says that Bush's campaign lawyers went out of their way to personally discredit the author without necessarily denying any of the book's factual details.
They never denied anything.
Ever.
Well, it's just like your book.
They go out of their way to discredit you without denying any of the details.
Well, they attacked my character.
They called me a drunk and a liar and a bank robber and a child molester and a white supremacist and a...
Uh, everything in the world, but they never, ever have refuted one thing that I've ever published, that I've published in my book, or that I've put out on this radio broadcast.
I would agree.
But anyway, I just wanted to add that in.
Thank you.
I'll talk to you later.
Thank you, Mikey.
No problem.
Well, you heard it, folks.
And I'm telling you right now, Mr. Hatfield did not commit suicide.
If he's dead, he was murdered.
Good evening on the air.
That would be wonderful, wouldn't it?
Then I could put two notches on my gun.
Or on my microphone, I should say.
Okay.
Thank you.
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Good evening on the air.
Hello, Bill.
Thank you.
Thank you.
520-333-4578 is the number.
Taking your calls until the end of the hour.
Good evening and on the air.
Hello, Bill.
Matt from Connecticut.
Hi, Matt.
I know someone who works for a major book chain where Fortunate Son is a bargain book.
Bye.
And you could probably still find it.
Where?
Borders Books and Music.
Borders Books and Music.
You heard of those?
Oh, for a fact.
I've seen it, uh, two months ago.
Go get it.
Oh, yeah.
Go get it and read it.
Starts when George W. was, in fact, starts before he was born and goes right up to when he went to the White House.
Yeah.
And you know what?
They weren't selling too hot, from what I heard.
They were out there, but people weren't buying them.
Well, that's too bad, because when they first came out, before they were snatched off the shelf and put in a pile of burn, they were, well, number one on the New York Times bestsellers list.
Well, what happens is with these major... No, people get scared.
Once a book is vilified like that, and they know that somebody doesn't want you to read it, they won't.
They're scared.
What happens though sometimes is when they have a lot of these books, they will put them
as a bargain title and they'll sell them by the pallet.
And a lot of times they'll slip through.
And I know this guy had a ton of them.
Good.
Maybe he'll sell them all.
I can give you another title too.
I don't know, perhaps you've seen this book regarding Osama Bin Laden and Afghanistan.
And it's called The Fourth Wall.
And it's a book about the four walls of Afghanistan.
In fact, I have it.
Oh, okay.
And the subtitle is Afghanistan, America, and International Terrorism.
Yeah.
And for the listener's benefit, you know... American people are so blind and so ignorant.
It's just incredible.
Sure.
It's just... Bin Laden was created by the Central Intelligence Agency.
He was created by George Bush's father.
And, you know, people don't realize that... well, most people don't realize that These terrorist organizations, either they were created by
us, or by the Soviet Union, or by Cuba, or by Great Britain.
And if you know enough about the Cold War, you know that was a hoax.
So, you know, ultimately, when you get to the highest levels, they're all working for
the same team.
Yep.
And it deals, this book on Holy Wars, deals with BCCI, it deals with the...
You can also read an awful lot about BCCI and George Herbert Walker Bush in my book,
You hold a pair of horses.
Oh yeah.
Well, I picked that one up about ten years ago and I've read it about five times.
So I'm very familiar with that.
But this book, my mother, before she passed away, God bless her soul, she had found this book at a tag sale and gave it to me because she knew that I would find it interesting.
Okay, well thanks for calling.
You're welcome.
Good night.
520-333-4578 is the number.
5-2-0-3-3-3-4-5-7-8.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Hey Bill, this is Lambert down the road here.
Prescott Bush was sent to Iraq in 1918.
Prescott Bush was George Herbert Walker Bush's father.
That's right.
They've been messing with everybody for almost a hundred years now.
Yeah.
And you know, talking about the BCCI, you know, 88 at Homestead Air Force Base, they
found a C-130 cargo plane full of cocaine.
Yeah, that's true.
And that's on public record too.
I don't know, I remember seeing the pictures of it.
But you know, the Bushes, they've been over there trying to get some of that for the last
80 years now.
Well, they got it.
Yeah, they got it and we're getting it.
And they're going to get a lot more it looks like.
That's right.
The price of oil is already going up.
That's right.
We're going to pay for it too, bud.
Alright, good talking to you.
Thanks for calling.
Bye.
520-333-4578.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Hey, Mr. Cooper.
How are you doing?
I'm listening to your show and I appreciate this.
Just went out to the website, BarnesandNoble.com, and I'm able to order the book, Fortunate Son, George W. Bush and the Making of an American President, in stock, J. H. Hatfield paperback.
That's it.
Our price, $14.95, so the book is out there for your listeners.
Second question I have, I noticed that ever since the two towers went down and the unfortunate loss of all those lives over there, That the U.N.
during the Gulf War came out with so many resolutions condemning Saddam Hussein and we haven't heard a peep out of them as far as any resolutions like condemning or, you know, from the Joint Security Council, that type of thing.
I was wondering what your opinion is on that.
What difference does it make who they condemn?
You know, you can listen to what they say until you get purple in the face and die.
It's what they do that matters and they don't ever do anything.
Now here's the kicker, I came in tonight after a hard day's work and I put on Channel 2 News
and there is one of the talking heads on CBS talking about how unprepared we are for an
anthrax attack and I'm like, well, you know, I mean, I'm in the military, I mean, the last
thing you tell the pit populace is that, you know, how vulnerable you are to another attack.
Unless you want them to get all scared and weepy and, you know, wimpy and pulling the
covers up over their head at night so that they will accept any draconian, tyrannical,
despotic measures that you want to impose upon them in the name of their own security.
And so what if there is?
I'm not a wrestling fan, but a lot of people in this country are saying, well maybe we
shouldn't watch them Tomahawks and maybe we shouldn't go in there because there might
be a suitcase of God knows what coming back in this country.
I mean talk about mind conditioning.
It's unbelievable what's going on.
And so what if there is?
Would you rather be free and have the chance to live a good life and be able to deal with
things or would you rather have them scare you into enslaving your own self and living
your whole life in fear as a slave?
The thing that frightens me, sir, is that it seems to be working.
Working, rather.
Well, I've always... They put that onto the boot tube, and these people are like, whoa, let's pull these flags back in.
Well, maybe we don't want to attack these countries.
Well, you know, maybe the backlash.
Let's go back to Nintendo and all that other stuff.
I mean, like, you know.
I think we absolutely should identify who did this, and we should identify who financed them, and we should identify who helped them and trained them, and we should identify which political process has encouraged them, and we should go in and get these people, bring them back, and try them in a court of law, and if they're found guilty, you know, let them be sentenced to whatever they're sentenced to.
Correct, and my mindset is follow the money.
You know, it's the money end of it.
I mean, like, people are short selling stocks.
They believe that it was the, uh, you know, the terrorist networks.
It's always they believe instead of who did it.
I'll tell you what, if somebody was short selling stocks, their name is on record.
How come they're not telling us who it was?
Exactly.
How come nobody is screaming, hey, tell us these names.
Don't tell us that somebody was doing it, and maybe Osama Bin Laden made a lot of money.
Tell us exactly who it was, because you know exactly who it was.
Well, I don't think he was cold-calling a stockbroker up during this whole thing, saying, hey, Shell, you know, he had some other agents doing it for him.
Doesn't matter.
Their names are on record.
Their names are on record.
They have to be.
But we don't ask those questions.
Well, most people are too stupid to even ask, you know, what street they live on, to tell you the truth.
Sir, it's a pleasure listening to your broadcast and keep up the work.
Thanks for calling.
Adios.
520-333-4578.
Yeah, they know.
They know exactly.
You can't make a stock transaction or your agent can't make a stock transaction without somebody knowing exactly who did it.
It's on record.
Good evening, you're on the air.
How you doing, Mr. Cooper?
Robert, Tennessee.
Hi, Robert.
I'd just like to make a comment on, you know, this New World Order crowd would have us to believe that, you know, that they're after Osama bin Laden.
But, you know, the Secretary of Defense Longfield, he was on TV tonight, this evening there, and he was asked a question by one of the reporters.
The reporters are asking, sir, if you take Osama Leghi out, would everything be over?
And he stated, no, that would only be the beginning.
I wonder why.
If Osama bin Laden is responsible, how could that be?
If he's the man?
That's right.
All the focus, no, the whole world is focused on that's our enemy.
That's the world enemy.
So how can that be?
If we get him and we get his network, how can that be that it wouldn't be over?
So nobody's saying, you know, I'm just looking at this and I'm saying, hey, you know, our government is lying to us again.
Yeah, because they have no intention of making a stop.
Read the report from Iron Mountain.
It's all explained in there.
Exactly, exactly.
Okay, thank you.
You're welcome.
Everybody listening, get a copy of the report from Iron Mountain.
It's in there.
Tells you exactly what they're doing.
People don't believe in the war on drugs anymore.
They're calling for the legalization of drugs.
And they got a lot of political clout behind them, so they're going to have a new enemy now.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Good evening.
Bill, I had to run to turn my radio off so I didn't blast it in your face as it was across the room.
And I spoke to you a few times several years back.
But listen, I'm amazed.
I can't believe what I'm hearing.
I got a couple of questions for you.
In this particular crisis and everything that's going on right now, in your opinion, Do we stand behind what our government's doing?
I mean, knowing all of this is happening, but yet knowing we're still in the midst of this horrific crisis?
Depends upon if what they're doing is right or wrong.
It is never proper to stand behind anybody if you know in your heart they're wrong.
That's what Hitler's followers did, wasn't it?
That's true.
And didn't the Nuremberg trials prove that your responsibility Is to refuse if you know it's wrong?
Absolutely, because they helped the German officers who were supposedly following orders.
Yeah, and they executed them too, didn't they?
You want to be executed if somebody comes over here and kicks our butt and decides you're a war criminal?
No, definitely not.
And if you think nobody can kick our butt, I'm telling you right now, there's so many atomic weapons loose in the world that that could happen very easily.
Look what happened When one plane crashed into the Pentagon, and two planes crashed into the Twin Towers, the World Trade Center, Washington D.C.
was in a panic!
Nobody knew where anybody was.
Everything was evacuated with no plan.
I'm telling you right now, for about six hours, the government was working, but it wasn't
working with the people who were supposed to be working.
It was working from underground command centers by people who nobody even knows anything about.
Well, here's a real question that you definitely seem like you always suited to answer.
Given the fact that now we're hearing all over the news that the Israeli Mossad supposedly
warned us about all of this weeks before...
They did.
So did the Germans.
So did the French.
There was a guy in prison who actually specifically named the World Trade Center.
Yeah, he made a phone call to the Secret Service and told them all about it.
Exactly.
So the question that I want to ask you in response to all of that is, if the government, was the government really in shambles or in your opinion, they pretty much know that this was going to happen and just kind of, you know, laid back and waited?
Some people in the government knew.
Most people didn't have a clue just like everybody else.
Amazing.
Just like Oklahoma City, they wanted it to happen.
Gives them more power.
Well, what I was going to say was basically that regardless of whether or not they quote-unquote wanted it to happen, it definitely suits the purposes.
I mean, you know, I'm sitting here in Brooklyn and I'm watching F-16s fly over my head while I'm treating my hand.
Yeah, why are F-16s flying over your head?
Supposedly to keep New York safe.
No, no.
It's to keep the sense of fear and urgency going.
And if you watch CNN, you'll never sleep again.
It's horrifying.
It's absolutely horrifying.
In fact, CNN is the one that coined the phrase, America's New War.
CNN, you'll never sleep again.
It's horrifying.
It's absolutely horrifying.
Something else that...
In fact, CNN is the one that coined the phrase, America's New War.
Right.
Yeah, exactly.
I thought...
Actually, I thought it was just that.
Another thing, again, I guess it could sort of fall under the heading of rumor, but I'll tell you anyway, because I know some people in the New York City schools... If you're going to get into rumor, forget it.
We don't do that on this broadcast.
Okay.
I don't even want to hear it.
Say that again?
I said I don't even want to hear it.
Okay, no problem.
Anyway, keep up the good work.
Thank you very much for your broadcast.
Oh, one thing I did want to tell you.
Interestingly enough, if you can get a hold of a comedy tape called You Are All Diseased by George Carlin, funny thing is, is he gives a parody of a lot of what you're talking about.
But he talks about, he makes a whole skit about airplane security, airport security, and how, you know, they can screw with us any time they want as long as we're... Oh yeah, George Carlin, he likes freedom.
Yeah.
A lot.
Yeah, and he really comes out against a lot of this stuff.
And of course, you know, everybody's laughing hysterically and they forget about it when they go home, but that's the part of that particular act that I remember because he, in a sense, made a comedy skit out of exactly what you're talking about.
Yeah.
And it's just, if you could pick up the... I've heard it.
I've heard it.
Oh, you have?
I was raised with George Carlin.
He's from my generation.
I've been listening to him for years and years and years and years and years and years.
He's absolutely hilarious.
By the way, I have to order your book again because I went to see somebody and I don't think I'm getting it back.
I think this person is just reading it.
Better hurry because it's out of print.
Yeah, OK, definitely.
But anyway, thank you again, Bill.
Thanks for taking my call and God bless America, man.
You're welcome.
Thanks.
520-333-4578 is the number.
And it's your turn.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Hi, Bill.
Dave from Wisconsin.
Hi, Dave.
You know, I was watching the Talking Head Bush on TV the other day, and he says, uh, there's an old saying in the old Wild West, want it dead or alive.
Speaking about going after Ben Laden.
Yeah, dead or alive.
Now, what kind of justice is that?
Is that the kind of justice that we do?
Absolutely not.
Is that what we believe in?
No, we have innocent before guilty.
Yeah, people are saying he's responsible, but they've presented no one with any proof.
He hasn't been tried or found guilty by anyone in any court.
Now, I'm not saying that he didn't have anything to do with it, but if he did, let's go get him, bring him back, present the evidence, and if he's convicted, you know, then sentence him.
But it's not the American way to say, hey, look at that guy down the street.
I know he's the guy that burned down the school three weeks ago.
Let's go kill him tonight.
Because that's exactly what they're doing.
And if you want to go back to the Old West, Shane, then if half the people on those airplanes were armed like they were in the Old West, then planes probably would not have crashed.
If those people on those planes had been allowed to carry guns, none of it would have happened.
Exactly.
You would have had plastic knives against people with guns.
Yeah, maybe there'd be some holes in the side of the airplane, and yeah, maybe there would have been rapid decompression, and yeah, maybe somebody would have had a heart attack, but the plane would have landed safely, and most of those people would still be alive, and nothing would have crashed into the World Trade Center towers or into the Pentagon.
Bet on it!
Bet your life on it!
You'll never hear these talking heads talk about that, I'm not... No, of course not, but I tell you what, there's nothing stopping all of the people in this listening audience from starting to call CNN, and call every talk radio show in this nation, and start talking about it, and calling Larry King live, and calling all of the talk shows on television, and don't stop!
I mean, do it for months and months and months, and hammer it into the head.
If those people on those planes had had guns, none of this would have happened.
Exactly.
Yep.
I think it's a good idea.
So that's your challenge.
Everybody in this listening audience.
Start doing that tonight.
As soon as I get off the air, every talk show that's on the radio anywhere, AM, FM, shortwave, television, doesn't matter.
Call.
Talk about it.
Rub it in their faces.
Tell them that it is the liberal anti-gun lobbery that killed all those people in the World Trade Center towers and in the Pentagon.
Because that's the truth.
That's exactly the truth.
You're right on that.
That's the truth.
Thank you Bill.
You're welcome.
520-333-4578 is the number.
You know what they're going to say then?
Well then terrorists could go on the plane with guns and hijackers could go on the plane with guns.
Yeah, they could.
Two or three of them against 150 passengers with guns.
How long do you think they'd live?
Good evening, on the air.
Hey, good evening, Mr. Cooper.
This is Bill in North Carolina.
You know, just what you were talking about just now, I haven't heard too many people talking about this topic, although I did read an email that came through.
I have not found confirmation on it, but I understand that the government of Brazil has allowed this exact thing you're talking about to happen by decree, taking guns on airplanes.
Well, we'll find out, but it's a rumor, folks.
Yeah, but they just said the votes are in their parliament with 234 to 6.
Well, no, no, no.
You can't document that.
Get off the rumor.
Okay, no problem.
Just wanted to let you know that it's being bantered about.
Thank you.
Folks, I'm not interested in rumors being bantered about.
Period.
Someday, you're all going to get that through your thick heads.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Yeah, good evening.
Bill Shoren from Pennsylvania.
Um, Fortunate Son is still available on Amazon.com.
Just ordered it.
Good.
Uh, have you heard of Zip, American-Israeli Shipping?
Uh, doesn't ring a bell.
No, they're probably the largest shipping operation out of Israel.
They had offices on the 16th and 17th floor of the South Building of the World Trade Center.
Yeah.
And I got it up on the Wall Street Journal research list right now.
All employees are safe.
Operations have been consolidated in Norfolk, Virginia.
Company moved most of its operations out of the World Trade Center one week before attack.
One week before?
Hmm.
That's very unusual.
They moved there about five or seven years ago.
Huh.
Hmm.
Norfolk, Virginia is also a Navy Guard.
Guess the Mossad feels safety on me.
Well, you don't know if they're connected with the Mossad.
Why did you throw that in there?
Why?
Yeah.
Because they were the ones, Zim bought the Liberty ships right after World War II that was operated by the Underground, the Israeli Underground.
But that doesn't mean that the people who are working for Zim today, that were in the World Trade Center, are connected with the Mossad.
Chances are some of them are, because the Mossad has penetrated almost every Jewish company and community in this country.
That's true.
But that doesn't mean that they are, either.
Well, we'll get with those agreements, why worry about it.
But anyway, that campaign should move out the week before the attack.
Okay.
Thank you.
Okay.
520-333-4578 is the number.
520-333-4578 is the number.
Good evening, on the air.
Yeah, how you doing, Mr. Cooper?
I'm up here in, uh, just outside of, like, Wall Street.
And I was wondering, maybe you can answer a question for me.
I don't know.
Here's what I think it is.
I think it's to keep the level of fear and anxiety to the highest level possible.
Here's what I think it is.
I think it's to keep the level of fear and anxiety to the highest level possible.
That's why I think it is.
I mean, I get no comfort seeing war planes overhead.
How would you?
How would anybody?
I mean, send them to where they're going to do the most good.
Well, that'd probably be in their home port, so the sailors could go home to their wives and families.
Exactly, you know, but I mean, we've got jets flying overhead... You can talk about this till you're blue in the face.
You've already said what's pertinent, and so have I. There's nothing else we can say.
It's a spooky situation.
That's exactly... That's what it's supposed to be.
Thank you, sir.
You're welcome.
That's my personal opinion, that they're there to keep a heightened state of fear and emergency and apprehension.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Hi, Bill.
Joe from Boston.
Hi, Joe.
How are you doing?
I have a... Can you give the name of the book again?
Those two books that I'm going to get.
And I also have a report, which I heard on the news, that in Brazil, they now allow people... They have just passed legislation... Where did you hear that?
On the radio.
What radio?
WBZ Boston.
Oh, NWRKO radio here on... Okay.
They allowed now people to carry guns on Brazilian planes.
Good for Brazil.
Over 21.
Finally got some smart people in this world.
Finally got some smart people in this world that understand what people like me and you and many others have been trying to tell them for forever.
I mean, I don't like the idea of shooting on a plane, but if you gotta do it, you gotta do it.
I'm gonna tell you right now.
Sarah Brady...
And all these anti-gun people are what killed, murdered all of those people in the Twin Trade Center, World Trade Center, Twin Towers and the Pentagon and all the passengers on those planes because they had nothing to defend themselves with.
Now they want to take all our knives away on planes and they want to wiretap.
Can you give the name of those two books again?
I'll give you the name of the one I got in front of me, Fortunate Son.
By J. H. Hatfield.
Great.
And I'd like to comment on that stupid security measures they're having.
Now we can't park near the airport anymore.
I don't know.
That's not going to stop it if these I.D.s didn't stop it.
Nothing will stop it.
Nothing's going to stop it if they want to.
If you have somebody that's willing to die for what they believe in, you're not going to stop them for doing whatever it is they want to do.
Like Flight 93 did.
I hope they play those takes on the air so we can hear them.
They won't play them because this says there's nothing on the shakes.
Oh.
That's what they said.
I didn't know that.
That's what they said.
Said there's nothing on the tape.
Nothing.
They got the flight recorders and there's nothing on the tape.
They said somebody turned them off.
Well, I do know.
It is possible, Bill, my brother flies and they do have an erase button on their, at
the end of each flight, which they shouldn't have.
Did you know that?
The way those things are built, they're not supposed to be able to be erased by anybody.
I know.
And they're supposed to be taken out when you land by ground crew personnel and the
tapes either erased or new tapes put in.
No one on the plane is supposed to be able to turn them off or erase them or remove them
or even get to them.
Well, he told me they have switches in the cockpit which they shouldn't have.
Well, you know what?
I have a tendency not to believe your brother, whoever he is.
Well, he lies.
Huh?
He's a pilot.
I know pilots that lie every day.
I know.
I hope he's wrong.
I hope to God he's wrong.
I hope he's wrong, too.
I'm not saying that he's telling a lie.
I'm just telling you that from what... See, I used to be an aircraft mechanic in the United States Air Force.
I know about these things.
Okay.
At least back then.
Unless it's changed, nobody aboard that plane is supposed to be able to get to them To be able to even see them, or take them out, or touch them, or erase them, or turn them off, or in any other way fool with them whatsoever.
Maybe we'll have some new pilots call up and let us know what changes they've made in these planes.
You never know what goes on.
Maybe they have.
Okay, thanks.
I hope they have it, because the whole purpose of the thing as an emergency device to be able to record exactly what happens on board a plane in Extremis is totally defeated if somebody can walk up and erase the tape or turn it off.
What good are they?
520-333-4578 is the number.
Unless they've changed things considerably.
When I was in the Air Force, you couldn't do that.
On any plane.
Air Force, military, or commercial jets.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Hi Bill, thanks for the intelligence this evening.
It was a great show.
And I'd like to say also, I don't mean to seem crass or anything, but there's 5,000 bodies down there, if that's the truth.
Well, I think it's pretty much common sense.
It's going to start smelling.
The smell of death is going to be all over New York City.
Yeah, there could be diseases, if any of those people had diseases.
Otherwise, there probably won't be.
But, you know, I think that's a matter of common sense.
Yeah, okay.
And everybody involved with the rescue effort knows that, and you can see they're wearing protective clothing and taking proper precautions.
All right, Bill.
I just wanted to bring that up for you.
Thanks again for a great show.
You're welcome.
520-333-4578 is the number.
And I've got to tell you, once that smell starts wafting across New York City, you're going to see a lot of people stop going to work.
It's a terrible, sickly, sweet smell.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Yes, Bill, I am a pilot, and there is a reason that you aren't able to disable that.
That's in case there is a short circuit.
It's to prevent a fire in the aircraft.
You have to pull the fuse, and that's how you're able to disable those reporters.
So now they have made it so you can disable the very thing that are the only things that, in the emergency, that you might have to pull this fuse for, they would be able to tell what happened.
Boy, that sure makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?
Well, it does prevent the aircraft from burning up in the sky, and that's... I guess that was considered a bigger threat than someone doing this.
But, again, no one should be in that cockpit.
I'll be honest with you, had they armed those two pilots, this would never have happened.
No, if people in the passenger compartment had been armed, it wouldn't have happened.
Absolutely.
The only thing I would say though, Bill, is that people should be trained to realize you
can't just fire off a weapon up in an aircraft that's at 30,000 feet because the aircraft
itself explodes.
It's a rapid decompression.
Well, I'm well aware of that.
That's why I would say limit it to the pilots because at least we would be trained as to
how to use the proper ammunition that will not go through the bulkhead of the aircraft.
Well, actually, I have to disagree.
I think all Americans are entitled to defend themselves, and they're entitled to keep and bear arms, and any laws that... This is a problem I have, Bill, that... Well, you may have a problem, but your problem is with the Constitution, not with me.
Okay.
Okay?
Thanks a lot, Bill.
You're welcome.
See, that's what I don't like about all these people who don't understand anything about the Constitution.
Who has a reason of their own to disarm American citizens, it's okay to do it.
The Constitution says we have a right to keep and bear arms.
Good night, folks.
God bless each and every single one of you.
I've gone over my time.
I'm probably off WBCQ.
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