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Aug. 4, 1997 - Bill Cooper

01:06:27

Pete Peters & Lawerence Meyers

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	Oh, yeah.
	You're listening to the Hour of the Time.
	the you're listening to the power of the time
	i'm william cooper and today folks uh...
	I come to you with a heavy heart.
	I am, well, I don't know how to put it.
	I'm extremely disappointed, angry, upset.
	In fact, everyone around here is down in the dumps because of this.
	Once again, we have been betrayed by someone Whom we never dreamed would ever do such a thing.
	I'm not going to mention the name because it has no consequence whatsoever in the great scheme of things except that it seems that every time we place our trust in the hands of someone and they become dear to us and we help them beyond your wildest imagination with funds and And help and boosting and everything that you can dream of.
	It's those people who turn around and betray us.
	While the great majority of those who are involved with us just trudge along, maybe not doing as much are ingratiating themselves into our hearts as much but they never ever betray us and so increasingly they mount the ladder of respect and trust in my eyes while we become increasingly distrustful and suspecting of those who attempt to become too close to us which is a sad
	State of affairs, I must say.
	This latest betrayal comes from someone whom we not only brought in close to our hearts, but invested literally tens of thousands of dollars into.
	It is these betrayals that hurt the worst, ladies and gentlemen.
	We are constantly attacked by our enemies.
	We expect them to attack us because they are our enemies.
	We expect them to someday, even eventually, come to do the utmost and final harm to us.
	And so we are ready for those things.
	We expect them to vilify us in the press.
	We expect them to call us names.
	We expect them to do all of the things that an enemy properly should be expected to do.
	But I guess I should have learned over the years to expect that people will just be people ultimately.
	But I don't know, for some reason I always seem to allow these things to happen.
	Even though, against my better judgment, I still have this Basic trust in human nature and human beings that somehow they're going to be good people.
	And every time, those who we allow to become the closest to us are the ones who turn out to be the greatest betrayals.
	And so anyway, I'm just going to give you a little taste of some of the stuff that we get.
	Not just me, but other people too.
	You see, we're attacked by the real white supremacists who call my children... What is it they call me?
	The word is so distasteful to me that I can't even bring it to mind.
	Mongrels.
	That's what they call my children.
	They call my children mongrels.
	They call me a race betrayer.
	And they threaten to kill my wife and my children Because of this.
	And then we have the so-called liberals and the socialist press and media who, on the other hand, call me a white supremacist even though I'm married to a Chinese woman and my children are half Chinese and I'm part Native American.
	Then we're attacked by the cowards because they don't want to hear the truth because it might make them responsible.
	Then we're attacked by everybody who has some agenda other than freedom because freedom impinges upon their agenda.
	We're attacked by Christians.
	We're attacked by atheists.
	We're attacked by just about everybody, ladies and gentlemen.
	To tell you the truth, I'm just about fed up with it.
	We're under constant investigation of the BATF, the FBI, the Internal Revenue Service, and everyone else, simply because we tell the truth.
	And the fact that I'm still here and still talking should tell you that they have been unsuccessful in their attempts to find anything criminal in our activities.
	There are none.
	We are not criminals.
	Never have been.
	And on top of all of this, we have to take crap from people who claim to be friends Well, I'm not even going to go into it anymore.
	Just listen to this, ladies and gentlemen, from Lawrence Myers.
	This is Lawrence Myers as a guest on the Pastor Pete Peters radio program, taped off of WWCR Shortwave.
	And you can hear some of the things that we constantly have to endure.
	In this, the extreme racist Lawrence Myers and Pastor Pete Peters accuse me and just about everybody else in the world of being Jews.
	Well, folks, if I were a Jew, I would be proud of it.
	No matter what I am, I am proud of what I am, but I am not a Jew, never have been.
	They accused Craig Smith, the owner and president of Swiss America Trading, who used to be my sponsor, of being a Jew.
	Craig Smith is probably one of the most devout Christians that I have ever met.
	I'm a Christian also.
	And many others.
	but just listen to this and then you'll get some idea of the of the hate you talk about
	hate crimes.
	You know people call me anti-semitic well I'm the only one on radio who literally and
	absolutely has stuck up for the Jews in this country.
	And I'll see you next time.
	And for everybody else who's constantly pinged on.
	And for the machinations of those who would enslave us, pitting us against each other.
	I've educated you on those aspects.
	But, you know, it doesn't make any difference.
	And then I get it from these racist Nazis.
	And they are the real Nazis.
	Socialists.
	All socialists are Nazis.
	Pastor Peters is a socialist.
	He's a Nazi.
	He is a liar.
	He's a racist, and so is Lawrence Myers, and you're going to hear it on this tape.
	Anyone who's ever listened to my broadcast knows that everything that they're going to say on this tape is a lie.
	But anyway, without any further ado, here it is, ladies and gentlemen, listen to it.
	And, uh... Make up your own mind.
	So, after several years of that fraud effort, Tom could not line up any sponsors for his program, primarily because of
	his criticism of the ADL.
	Tom told me he has a letter from Swiss America trading a gold and silver dealer where they refused to sponsor his
	program, and he planned to criticize the anti-defamation league in
	any way. Tom told me, Tom...
	Now, ladies and gentlemen, I have to tell you that's an absolute lie. No one in this world has criticized the anti-defamation
	league more than William Cooper on the hour of the time.
	And during all of those years that I did it and documented their entire criminal history on this broadcast, Swiss America Trading sponsored me and stuck behind me and with me and by me despite the attacks that they garnered because of it.
	This is just one of the lies.
	Everything that is stated in this broadcast is a bold-faced lie.
	...show to be censored, and he ended up going off the air for the weekday prime-time slot on the most popular show-wave frequency, which is this one right here.
	It was a great show.
	It got canceled.
	So now, as a result, an openly Jewish man has replaced Tom Valentine on the airwaves.
	That's interesting, but that's one example of where some will say that's the whole case.
	It's just that we're being controlled by the science, that is.
	You'll notice that Lawrence Myers claimed that the Tom Valentine show was replaced with Jewish-owned and
	controlled broadcast.
	I might remind you, ladies and gentlemen, that the broadcast that you're hearing right now is in that time slot.
	that is the Pastor Pete Peters program broadcast, which is now in the old Tom Valentine time
	slot.
	Hi, this is Pastor Pete Peters.
	I'm going to give you a little bit of a worldwide gift.
	For example, it's a bank-bond fraud.
	I believe from WWW.CHARGE3215.
	We're going to give you a little bit of a gift.
	Dr. Norbert, who's the charge of Freedom Network, where can you find it?
	I'm going to give you a little bit of a gift.
	I'm Larry D. Cochran, owner of Freedom Network.
	Resnick is also Jewish.
	He's definitely not a patriot.
	He's an old liberal leftist college professor who was promoting all sorts of weird, uh, socialist causes in the 60s and 70s.
	People back in Colorado know exactly what his background is.
	In fact, most of your listeners, though, may not be aware of this, but Resnick's network is a Jewish-owned business run by Tom Wiedemann.
	I think that's the only thing that's going to be the most important thing that's going
	You could call it the American Patriot Network.
	They're very marketing-oriented over there.
	The word Patriot, for example, was evidently too political for them, so they changed their name to the American Freedom Network last year.
	But the company was, you know, it is one of the biggest alternative news talk networks out there.
	They have a 24-hour-a-day satellite feed.
	They own at least two radio stations there in Colorado.
	put out a very slick monthly magazine selling all sorts of survival foods and the usual
	food is over and they're broadcasting more and more on shortwave. In fact it is one of
	the biggest so-called patriot networks out there as Jewish homes in operation.
	What does that mean to supporters, commentators covering the news in the patriot community
	if they appear on the American Freedom Network? Well you know that's a very good question in case
	there's any question about what that means, that's what the business shows
	and consider how Mr. Resnick constantly attacks the Christian identity message.
	He even attacked me personally for writing what I was told was an accurate, balanced article about the faith.
	He would not let me respond on his show, by the way.
	The fact is, the so-called Freedom Network has an openly stated policy of censorship when it comes to Christian identity or anything even remotely critical of Jewish behavior.
	What do you mean by that, sir?
	Can you give us an example?
	Well, you never hear anyone question U.S.
	foreign policy towards Israel, and you'll never hear any criticism of the ABL on that network.
	And if you dare question anything in that area, you get banned from ever appearing again.
	My young reporter and editor, not all scribes are foolish, irresponsible riot masters.
	My young reporter named Clay Bender, she runs Free American Newspaper.
	If newspaper can give you an example of what happens when the American Freedom Network considers you politically
	incorrect, well, I'll watch it.
	So plenty of people out there who are studios and have zero to no experience with the American Freedom Network
	have a blank checkbook and no explanation.
	CEO later found out that's the reason he's now banned from ever appearing on any program on that network
	because one of his vendors, the N.O. Newspaper, sells copies of a book titled
	The Protocols of a Learning Elder's Science.
	I know this guy works with great scientists, and I bet you don't know him.
	He's a Christian.
	As you can see, he doesn't have the idea of promoting racism in his writings.
	He's a Christian.
	He doesn't stand to be conservative.
	He actually puts out a fine little paper.
	He goes, you know, you learned a valuable lesson from dealing with the American Freedom Network.
	Uh, hey, she's read that Protocols book now.
	This is right at the end.
	He told me last summer that, actually, part of the strategy of why I'm in the Protocols is that they're spooked by anyone who dares to take the obvious, I suppose.
	He said that, uh, a lot of what was written in the Protocols more than a century ago has come to pass in this country today.
	Do you have any other examples of Jewish influence in the Patriot movement?
	Absolutely, Pastor.
	The biggest so-called sex protest movement in America is Jewish-owned, and some of the most popular talk shows are sponsored by Jewish representatives.
	For example, Volkreich, William Cooper, and Jack McClam are extremely popular on the airwaves, and you see them at all the fraternities expos.
	All three of these men are sponsored by Swiss America Trading, the company I told you about earlier that receives the sponsors on Valentine over the ATL.
	What, uh, what do you know about that?
	Well, Swiss America is an extremely profitable metal dealer selling, uh, gold and silver, especially in New Jersey.
	They found out about the cocktail Arizona.
	They drew about $20 million in business.
	The company president, Greg Kim, told me at a phone interview last year that he said,
	quote, pro-Zionist religious heresy.
	He admitted that the most influential people in his company are Jewish men.
	Victor Karnow is one of the first American business managers, Earl Brown, and Greg Goldstein
	are both top brokers there.
	All three of these men are openly Zionist Jews.
	And they're getting rich selling gold and silver to the patriot community by sponsoring Jack McClane,
	Bo Brice, and William Cooper.
	All three of them, as you're fully aware, openly attack the Christian identity methods
	almost every day of the day.
	Yes.
	By the way, a former broker from North America claims that the company operates on a 28% profit
	margin and a 40% market margin gold coin.
	And the scripture warns us about foreign gold.
	I wonder how many of your listeners are aware that with a 40% markup on these coins,
	there's no way they'll ever recoup their investment because they need to sell their gold coins in an emergency.
	When you buy an ounce of gold for $600 in North America, unless you can find a collector willing to pay
	what you paid for, as a good heroic, an emergency vehicle to get the current gold
	value for the coin, which today, I believe, is a table of coins, about $350.
	Notice the lies, ladies and gentlemen.
	First, he says that Swiss America Trading operates at a 28% markup, and then he says once you've paid the 40% markup, you couldn't possibly realize the profit.
	Well, I don't really know what the markup at Swiss America Trading is, but I know it's not 40%, and I know that if he said it was 28%, how did it magically jump to 40%?
	Also, this is America.
	Making a profit is not wrong.
	That is a socialist viewpoint, ladies and gentlemen.
	Also, in all my years dealing with Swiss America Trading, and all of the years that they sponsored the Hour of the Times, they never, ever charged $600 for an ounce of gold.
	Gold bullion, ladies and gentlemen, at Swiss America Trading, typically, had a 15% markup, which is standard in the precious metals industry, and that's from the wholesale spot.
	It is not from the retail price.
	Ladies and gentlemen, that is how the retail price is obtained.
	And, uh, you know, all of these, uh, these people are sickening.
	You're listening to the real socialists here.
	And, uh, you're listening to their condemnation of your ability to realize the American dream.
	And you notice that somehow he made it a crime that Swiss America Trading may have been making
	a $20 million a year.
	And I'm going to tell you if they did, that's gross, ladies and gentlemen.
	I don't know what Swiss America Trading and Fred Smith made.
	But I do know that he did not make $20 million in profit.
	Whatever figures he, Swiss America Trading, makes in a year is including the price of
	what they purchased their product for, the price of doing business, and of course, you
	know, the ultimate...
	to fail. Whether or not they make a profit, you have to go look at their books. And I
	don't know whether Craig would allow you to look at his books or not, but I know Craig.
	I think you could probably sit down and talk to him about it, and I know that he would
	tell you the truth.
	So these people are selling Christian patriots that don't benefit a huge profit. Well, it's
	Explain to us what you mean by that.
	Well, if you listen to these shows, you hear how they always preach this bizarre brand of economic armageddon.
	He's been warning folks about not buying into this for years now.
	But a lot of these shows, pastors included, you're one of the few pastors out here that doesn't.
	This economic armageddon, they want the audience to believe that the whole world is about to collapse into a great big depression.
	And the only way out of the common problem, they say, is to buy gold and silver with America.
	It creates fear in the audience about UFOs, U.N.
	troops, and economic collapse.
	Well, they convince you to call every other number for the coin dealer.
	And when you do, they're going to ask you for your home phone number, and then the sales reps are going to call and call and keep calling until they con you into emptying out your bank account to buy their overpriced gold coin.
	I'll make myself clear.
	I'll tell you exactly what I mean by that.
	These top co-hosts are not in the business of competition.
	They're in the business of selling gold and silver at a 40% profit.
	And not only that, they're also in the business of slandering and attacking identity.
	What do you think they need to attack identity?
	Well, first of all, I've got to point out that the predominantly Jewish congregation in North America clearly hates identity.
	You can tell by the shows they sponsor and the shows they don't.
	No surprise there.
	The thing to make sure Bo Grice and Bill Cooper attack the faith constantly.
	It's also a business decision for this past, you don't have to listen to your show or participate
	in your tape industry real long, any long period of time at all to realize that the
	Christian identity teaches economic self-sufficiency.
	It teaches people to work on the salvation of their souls, not on stockpiling worldly
	goods or buying gold coins for some so-called class.
	I do also think that I have only been looking at it for about a year, but it tends to support
	people who put their earnings into their churches and ministries like yours and into their own
	homesteads and farms instead of making these so-called bread.
	The reality is...
	The reality is that personal self-sufficiency and a strong Christian home life are bad for the gold and silver business, particularly for a Jewish-owned gold and silver business.
	Look at the host they have on the air.
	Joe Cooper complains about all sorts of weird conspiracy-based aliens on his program every afternoon.
	He intentionally slanders every other talk show host and preacher.
	He scares his audience into believing he's dead.
	The sky is falling by such a little on every single show.
	Let me tell you, Salvation isn't a hat.
	It's purchased a good supply of gold and silver from North America.
	The war in North America is getting extremely weird and deliberate.
	I remember he only had to tear a little bit of the Jewish offense,
	bring it down a few months back, and see where it went.
	So on April 3rd, in session yesterday, he talked about a new topic, homosexual,
	on a program named David Brucell, I believe, with our talk show host in Boston.
	He spent the whole program talking about, quote, showing tolerance for homosexuals.
	I actually agree that he personally, uh, the state of the homosexual in the Army Special Forces Unit
	Panama, I, uh, that sounds so strange coming out of Mr. Grinch.
	I know he's done to your church, but if your listeners want to hear what Bill Grinch has to say about homosexuality, I give you the address where they can order a copy of the paper that Bill passed us.
	Go ahead.
	Well, if they did, all they gotta do is send $7 to America First, uh, G-O-M-A-R-C-H, 10121.
	That's for the tape of the April 2nd broadcast, and then get a copy of the show.
	I need you here the whole broadcast but several people I've spoken with say they were just
	shocked to hear Christ promoting homosexuality on a program.
	He won't talk about identity but he had a homosexual on his show in 2008. He sure has
	years ago. I believe you baptized him, did you? He was baptized, yes I did baptize him and
	come a long way from when he came to your church for support from your birth, that's five
	his wife in one of our church camps but that was when he first started running for president
	and as soon as I found out that he was willing to speak in favor of the Book of Mormon and
	then also defend homosexuality I wrote to him and said I couldn't support him and never
	sent him.
	He tapped me on the door of his bat list.
	I said, you might not support him, but he supports all professionals and he actually openly attacked Identity on his show now.
	I wrote an article in Media Bypass, Flash Noveler.
	I spent a lot of time researching that article and playing on what Christian Identity was.
	Right inside of me on his show to discuss the article, he then spent two hours trying to disprove every point in that report.
	I have my homework.
	I have all of my books and research material I've kept up in my climate source watch.
	It's like, uh, one of the smallest entry points into the identity map that you can go great and game across, man.
	You wouldn't have guessed it, because it was supposedly racist.
	There's a higher degree of support in your social lifestyle and lives about what politics should be.
	On that subject, Let me ask you, Laura, because I know there's going to be some people wondering, why don't you write for the News & Bypass anymore?
	Well, I left the magazine last fall.
	I think they called you within a few days of leaving after having a number of differences with the editorial at the end of News & Bypass.
	The filters were and still are pressuring the publisher into not reporting anything about the identity message, even though the issue with you on the cover one of the top selling editions in 1996, I know that for a
	fact.
	For most of two months, I've actually pulled three articles about identity. I worked really hard on those articles.
	Here is the report about your gathering in Wisconsin where I met Doc. I had a really detailed article with Fisher,
	which included one of Doc's, by the way, and included the very good talk that Charles Weisman has given about the
	origin of the street scene line question of the stage.
	You know, all the press always talks about the street scene line and you dispense with that with that talk from Charles
	Weisman very well.
	But Petey Bob had actually approved that article and another article I had done about a church gathering down in
	Tennessee where Richard Hopkins had appeared.
	It was a really honor to meet him. I got all of his birthday autographs before me.
	They all feel free to be themselves. Evidently, they're certainly, to a certain extent, afraid of offending the ADL,
	which has never actually supported me in by far any way.
	That's a lie I was getting frustrated with.
	We still have some of those Media Bypass magazines with Pastor Peters on the cover.
	They're available for a $3.00 offer.
	Media Bypass magazine with Pastor Peters on the cover.
	They're available for a $3.00 offering.
	You write to us at 624-VERA-CHOP-POST-OFFICE-BOX-766-REPORT-COLORADO-80535-USA and we'll send you one.
	Did Media Bypass receive a lot of opposition over having me on the front cover writing an article about it?
	Well, I'll tell you this, all the magazines were sold out.
	I know they sold every book on issue.
	They printed it. I know they sent a bunch of people off to a whole lot of them for insurance.
	But we got letters from people, and of course they would say who they were or what their agenda was,
	but we got letters.
	In fact, one writer, an attorney up in Massachusetts, I can't remember his name off the top of my head, but he sent a very angry letter about the article and about demanding a voice out of the magazine.
	But he extended it to us.
	He sent it to our shareholders.
	He sent it to our investors.
	He sent it to board members.
	He sent this letter out to people that wrote for the magazine.
	He never sent a copy of it to me.
	This gentleman, uh, was demanding that the magazine retract the article and that they never print anything about identity again.
	I'll tell ya, he did share a lot of culture and media bypass and also left an impression with Jim Fallon.
	I went and checked this guy out.
	Turns out, he's an attorney for the JBL.
	He is represented, uh, doing domestic bombers and terrorists in New York City.
	And in Massachusetts, based on a concert map.
	I'm sure this is his name on here, but, uh, anyway.
	Now, folks, to properly understand what you're hearing here, you have to know that the man speaking, Lawrence Myers, is a very well-known undercover agent for the Central Intelligence Agency.
	He has written books on how to make bombs, how to bomb, and many other things which he has published through the Paladin Press.
	Now I'm not complaining that he published these books because that's anyone's right.
	The freedom of speech in this country is inviolate as far as I'm concerned.
	But the fact that he is now talking about other people who are promoting terrorism.
	Lawrence Myers promoted terrorism through his book The Law of Attraction.
	The Law of Attraction.
	Lawrence Myers. Law of Attraction.
	He showed up applying for a job as a reporter when they didn't need a reporter
	on the exact morning that that bomb went off and he gave them, of course, a whole bunch of credentials
	as an explosives expert and as someone who had written several books concerning
	explosives and how to use them and all of this kind of stuff.
	He was hired.
	Immediately, Lawrence Myers became the personality at Media Bypass Magazine and began to print articles that led people away from the truth of what happened in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
	He is the one who is directly and primarily, and in fact only, responsible for the removal of Hoppy Heidelberg from the Oklahoma City Bombing Federal Grand Jury.
	He tricked Hockey Heidelberg into making comments about what was going on in the grand jury investigation.
	Not what was presented to the grand jury, but that the grand jury was not being allowed to call witnesses that it wanted to call and to see evidence that it thought was important.
	But instead was being managed by the prosecutors in the case.
	And therefore, Hoppy Heidelberg did not believe that the grand jury was functioning as an impartial body of citizens trying to get at the truth, but was being managed by the federal prosecution.
	Well, he did not talk about anything that he was not supposed to talk about.
	And, uh, but Lawrence Myers tricked him when he interviewed him.
	It was off the record.
	He was told that it was off the record.
	Lawrence Myers then printed an article and, uh, actually lied about what Hoppy Heidelberg
	had said and printed a lot of things out of context.
	And that led to the eventual removal of Hoppy Heidelberg from the, um, federal grand jury
	investigating the Oklahoma City bombing of the Alpha T near a federal building and thus
	removed from the grand jury, the only grand juror who knew his rights under the law and
	would have, uh, made sure that the grand jury actually, uh, called in and heard the witnesses
	that, uh, that it should have called in and heard.
	And would have examined the evidence that should have been called in and examined.
	It is absolutely incredible that Lawrence Myers on the Pastor Pete Peters racist Christian identity show, and by the way, it's real funny that these people hate Jews because they claim that they're the real Jews.
	Isn't that incredible?
	I just can't understand these people.
	Not one single one of them knows one word in Hebrew, never has and probably never will.
	But Lawrence Myers on this broadcast is supporting the Christian Identity Movement.
	But while he was on the staff of Media Bypass Magazine investigating the Oklahoma City bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, he was promoting, he was promoting, ladies and gentlemen, that it was the Christian Identity Movement that blew up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building.
	In order to get back at the United States government because the United States government was full of Jews.
	And he took the opposite position at that time that this was a terrible thing.
	And then all of a sudden, one day, here appears in Media Bypass Magazine this big article glorifying Pastor Pete Peters and his Christian identity and racist, absolute criminal teachings, in my estimation, and puts Pete Peters' picture on the front cover.
	All of that magazine was not sold out, ladies and gentlemen.
	That is a lie.
	Of course, all of those that went to subscribers were mailed out.
	There were certain issues that were sent to newsstands, and a lot of them were sold.
	A lot of them were not.
	They were returned, as a matter of fact.
	and pastor pete peters ministry literally tens of thousands of those magazines in order to
	send out all his particular subscribers
	and it costs the people who donate to his ministry an awful lot of money to
	purchase all those magazines so now you know
	the truth about that the
	the We try to act to report it.
	Uh, Media Bypass claims to want to report things that the rest of the press gets wrong.
	You know, that's what Media Bypass is supposed to be about.
	And in the final analysis, they, they did back down.
	Well now, Media Bypass claims that you're an FBI informant.
	Is that true?
	Well, I, I did report someone to the FBI last year.
	Quite honestly, Patrick, I'd do it again.
	The fact is, ladies and gentlemen, that Lawrence Myers is an FBI informant.
	He is also an operative of the Central Intelligence Agency.
	He has been convicted of a felony for extortion, where he actually threatened people's lives if they did not give him money.
	That's on record.
	He was convicted, served time in jail and in a mental institution for that crime.
	And he has been implicated, not implicated, it's absolutely been proven by his testimony in court that he is an informant for the United States government and for the FBI in particular.
	And helped absolutely to literally frame some people and put them in jail because they espoused in and believed in some of the very
	ideas that he now, that he believes in.
	This is all a matter of record, ladies and gentlemen, and if you've been paying attention to the press and what's
	been going on, all the information is on the Internet, and it's readily
	obtainable by anybody who wants to get it.
	If you're a man who approached me and wanted my help in committing a murder for hire, I would be happy to help.
	I warned him for more than a month, on more than a half a dozen occasions, that he was committing a crime by even discussing a murder conspiracy with me or with anyone else.
	Guy persisted.
	I finally called the FBI, and they didn't report it to the magazine, but I am on the record accusing the FBI of trying to set me up with some kind of sin operation.
	The man was arrested when he tried to hire an undercover FBI agent to commit that murder.
	The fact is, ladies and gentlemen, that Lawrence Myers approached the subject and offered his services as a professional hitman.
	And you know, anyway, you can read the trial transcript if you want to.
	I'm not going to go into all of it right now.
	The fact is that Lawrence Meyer is one of the biggest liars that ever lived.
	I'm saying it on radio.
	If he doesn't like it, he can sue me and we'll see how fast that happens.
	It won't ever happen.
	and Pete Peters by allowing this interview to take place by his very failure to call
	this man on all of the lies that Pete Peters knows that this man is saying in this broadcast
	and by leading him on to tell these lies, Pastor Pete Peters is complicit in these same
	lies and has over the years been guilty of misleading people and teaching them things
	that just absolutely are not true.
	And in this broadcast, Pastor Pete Peters, by his very conduct here, is in the process of lying to the American public.
	It was noted in court in the tribe that said, you know, I thought, if you look at the way the government talks to people nowadays, I really, I really have no choice but to report this guy.
	Virtually every militia and patriot arrest in the past three years has involved someone trying to talk someone else into committing a crime.
	None of those should have been arrested in the last year or ever predisposed to committing a crime.
	When you're approached by someone asking you to do anything illegal, chances are it's a government thing of some sort.
	Look what happened in Arizona, and Georgia, and West Virginia, and Washington State last year.
	In every one of those cases, people were arrested after someone came up to them and tried to convince them to commit a crime.
	Those people have already been convicted of committing crimes.
	I'm not going to get caught up in any of these things.
	I don't discuss any crimes with people, and I will not allow anyone to set me up in the commission of a crime.
	That's all there is to it.
	I'm not an FBI informant or an undercover secret agent or a CIA space alien from the point of God, as Bill Cooper claims.
	Never have been.
	I'm a reporter.
	Also, ladies and gentlemen, if you've listened to my broadcast, you've never heard me scare anybody with space aliens from anywhere.
	In fact, I've told you that it's the biggest hoax in the history of the world.
	And I've never called Lars Myers a space alien from the Pentagon or anything else.
	That's another lie.
	In fact, it's a typical socialist trick to try and discredit people by saying that they said things that sound ridiculous that people have never said.
	In fact, Lawrence Myers and anybody in my listening audience, if I
	have ever said anything like that in my entire life, I will give you $1,000 the moment
	that you present absolute proof that I have ever said that there was a space alien from the
	Pentagon or that Lawrence Myers was a space alien from the Pentagon or that I've ever said
	anything other than the fact that there is evidence that the United States government
	has papers and documents that claim that there are extraterrestrials visiting this earth.
	And I have always stated that that is a hoax in order to create an artificial alien threat
	from outer space in order to help facilitate the formation of a one world government.
	So when you listen to these things, and I know there's so many people out there that
	if they heard this broadcast in its full, they'd probably believe three quarters of
	it, if not all of it.
	Then there's others who would believe only half of it.
	And then there's some who wouldn't believe any at all.
	But most people tend to believe because it's on radio, it's printed in a book or printed
	in a newspaper.
	It's true.
	I've always cautioned my listening audience.
	for it.
	Listen to everyone, read everything, believe absolutely nothing unless you can prove it.
	That goes for me, it goes for your mother, your father, your pastor, your priest, your teacher, your university professor, the mayor in your city, the town council, I don't care who it is, this is the age of deception and today on this broadcast you're hearing some of the deepest Deepest pits of deception that you can possibly imagine.
	And then he gets loose.
	I'd like us to talk about the tax movement, okay?
	Sure.
	Also, ladies and gentlemen, you'll notice that he said the reason he was fired from Media Bypass was because he published the story on Christian identity.
	And the truth is reporters don't decide whose photograph goes on the cover of any magazine.
	That's a decision made by the highest members of the editorial board and even the owners and publishers of the magazine.
	And then just a couple of minutes ago he said that he was fired because he was an informant for the FBI.
	He can't even get his story straight during the same broadcast.
	It's an absolutely incredible thing here.
	I'm going to fast forward a little bit so that you can hear some of the call-ins and what they say about these things.
	There are some things here.
	I'm going to tell you a story.
	It's a million-dollar scam in this country, and a lot of those get in trouble.
	And now, I'm sorry to quote you on a little $15 pamphlet to force your argument, you're going to go to jail.
	I'll be announcing, as I mentioned earlier, the most successful scam artist on taxes, with the biggest business in America, is a wealthy Jewish man in Los Angeles.
	Who's that?
	Oh, that's the Irwin Schiff.
	He has a shortwave show where he sells his books on how to beat the tax system.
	He sponsors a Sam Solomon show that's out before you.
	What he doesn't tell you is that he did not actually make a dime himself.
	For example, on his five-minute future book titled, How to Legally Stop Paying Income Taxes.
	That's because his royalties are confiscated by the IRS every time they're supposed to be sent to Mr. Schiff.
	Sorry about that, sir, but Mr. Schiff is currently selling a book called The Federal Mafia.
	Heard an ad on it shortly just before you came on the air.
	It's supposed to teach you how to beat the tax man.
	In the introduction in the front of that book, Mr. Schiff tells you he's writing it from the federal penitentiary where he's preserving private tax evasion.
	Good will from a tax advisor should be not to take it from a man who spends time and pleasure proving taxes.
	Jim spends a heck of a lot of money on advertising.
	He sponsors a lot of show-away programs.
	He claims he's sold more than 400,000 copies of his book.
	Your listener should call him on the floor and ask him how many times he has personally won in court against the IRS.
	I don't believe he ever actually has.
	The bottom line, pastor, is simply this.
	I know you have that statement about the paper.
	Ladies and gentlemen, before you believe what he's just said there, Erwin Schiff has served time in jail.
	Erwin Schiff is a man who backs up what he says, and he's willing to take the consequences of his actions.
	Erwin Schiff has published a lot of books and learned a lot of lessons, and you can learn a lot from him.
	But there is no book in this world that you can read and learn how to get out of paying your taxes.
	If there's a way to get out of paying your taxes, ladies and gentlemen, it's through the study of the law and the proper application of the law, not reading someone's book or taking what someone says on a radio show that's just, you know, an hour of information, including what you may hear from me.
	You've always heard me say that.
	It takes at least two years or more of study to be able to understand the law and the income tax system and how it's been applied and misapplied and properly applied and everything else and be able to properly deal with it and represent yourself in a court of law.
	So I would much rather read and take the advice of someone who has the courage of their convictions
	and has spent time in jail and is having their property confiscated rather than someone who
	is continuing to pay the income tax but yet is trying to give me or someone else advice
	on how not to pay it.
	So that's how you should take what Lawrence Myers just said about Erwin Schiff.
	It's Jewish-Armenian operation.
	And the greatest thing I've seen is how similar the programs will serve that purpose.
	I am one of the biggest global dealers in the industry, which is Jewish management control.
	That is a bare-faced lie, ladies and gentlemen.
	Swiss America Trading is not the sponsor of this project.
	Used to be for approximately four years.
	And they are not Jewish-owned or controlled or managed.
	They do have some Jewish employees because in this country it is against the law to discriminate.
	Occasionally they have Asian employees and black employees and Catholic employees and
	Protestant employees and every other kind of employee that you can possibly think of
	and no one has ever dictated to me what I say on my broadcast.
	Not a sponsor, not a family member, not an associate, not a friend, not a loved one,
	not a mother or father, not anybody has ever told me what to say on this broadcast and
	if anybody ever attempted it, which they have a couple of times, I have told them very quickly
	where to stick it, how, how long and exactly how to do it.
	So much for that.
	According to Lawrence Myers, everyone, just about everyone, has a right to be heard.
	And the Patriot community is Jewish.
	Now, I'm going to tell you something.
	You all know I don't like Lt.
	Col.
	James Bogreitz.
	I know who he is and what he's up to, but I've got to tell you, Lt.
	Col.
	James Bogreitz is not Jewish, does not work for Jewish interests, does not take his orders from Jews, and he was, and may still be, sponsored by Swiss America Trading, which is a Christian-owned company.
	This guy, Lawrence Myers, is over the hill.
	I mean, just absolutely way over the hill.
	Now, don't get me wrong, folks.
	There's absolutely nothing wrong with being Jewish.
	If I were Jewish, I would be on the air telling you that I was Jewish.
	I would be proud of it, and I would still be an American patriot standing up and fighting for freedom.
	And there are a lot of Jews in this country who do exactly that.
	Very interesting comment.
	Well, what are you up to right now?
	You don't work for me, do you, by any chance?
	Well, I've got a big start.
	I've got a magazine I'm working on.
	I've got five books published and I'm working on another six.
	I also worked on another magazine project for some folks, a magazine called Covenant
	Christian Portal, and it's intended to be sort of an entry level introduction into the
	Christian identity.
	I also consider allowing them to press some of your services, and it may just be a way
	to get political help and self-assistance and issues for Covenant Christians.
	I really appreciate you being out here.
	Thanks to you, I'm learning to be humbled by scriptures every morning, and after a year of study, I'm beginning to actually understand your sermons and faith ministry.
	Hopefully, I can help others from the mainstream understand what identity is truly about.
	Maybe send a few more faithful your way.
	Well, Lord, let's take a break here, and when we come back, what do you say we talk about the Patriots?
	I mean, we haven't talked anything about the religious Armageddon type.
	Do you have a few comments on that area?
	I sure can, if you like.
	I've been listening to these folks actually for about five years now.
	Okay, let's cut it out.
	We'll be right back.
	Well, it's good to be with you tonight, ladies and gentlemen, and it's good to have Lawrence Myers as our guest.
	And, Lawrence, let's talk about Patriots.
	Well, I was hoping we'd get to the call-in part, but I don't guess we're going to do that.
	Well, I was going to, I was hoping we'd get to the call in part, but I don't guess we're
	going to do that.
	There is a part in here where we...
	You know what?
	I just realized I can't cut this off because then somebody will accuse me of not wanting you to hear the Armageddon.
	I'll just let it go.
	Well, tomorrow we'll do the rest of it.
	I think it's a good thing when you get out of your years.
	I'm just barely 39 years old and I don't, you know, I'm not lonely.
	But I know a lot of older folks who are lonely.
	Uh, listen to that radio.
	Uh, listen to those TV, uh, evangelical, uh, evangelical folks.
	And, you know, it's predatory.
	It clearly is.
	And sometimes that preacher, that promissory, is the only person that comes into an old person's home.
	And, uh, one of these guys called himself the Last-Day Conqueror of God.
	I don't know, you don't like to mention his name out of the air, but his name really stares.
	He's buying up.
	It's a higher frequency.
	It's higher transmittance.
	And he is broadcasting 24 hours a day, he is slandering every other preacher out there, he's making misrepresentations about Scripture, and he is continuously asking people to, quote, turn it all over to the Prophet.
	Now, you know, the only pastor on Shoreway who doesn't do that, in fact, you can tell, he's got a lot of positive messages.
	I went to the, what's his name, he did quite honestly, I go to bed listening to your second hour on the Shoreway.
	But the pastor, this private care minister, tells folks all the time to turn over all their stuff again.
	And it's working, but we're just working against it.
	I'll give you an example.
	We got a man by the name of Dave Frost.
	He was a pilot, a cab radio operator in Atlanta, Georgia.
	He was a brother's dad.
	He was a cab driver.
	He was a pilot.
	He was a pilot in the lab.
	He piloted a few helicopters.
	He was a crew.
	He was a crew agent.
	He was a co-pilot.
	He was a crew chopper agent.
	He went out to build an eight-story building that was a 10-story building.
	He went out to build a big, big, George Washington factory.
	He built a big, big, George Washington factory.
	He sold it for $175,000.
	Started constructing that station, built it as 900-story old townhouse,
	hand-built a 50-kilowatt trans-center, built a computer control in the foyer,
	paid a little boy to run the boiler, so simple to operate.
	And he's now on WPPT probably five every day.
	But when he got it finished, bought the land and built the house for his family to live in,
	Brother Stare came looking at it and said, well, I'm going to turn it all over into the hands of the prophet.
	Wanted this man to take his whole life savings, his land, the family house he built,
	and turn it into Brother Stare's name.
	That man told Brother Stare to get off his property.
	As a result, there's another Patriot program out on the airwaves, another station, some of the programming's pretty good.
	I like all of it.
	And that's how the Lord works for guys like Brother Stare.
	I'm shocked that he has just now bought up another pregnancy.
	But, you know, if it's economic armageddon, and that's an old quote that everybody has,
	that the sky is falling, and the only way to solve it is through the buy-gold-shelter,
	and you want to turn all your property over to that Patriot.
	I don't believe he has that no more.
	This is another bare-faced lie, ladies and gentlemen.
	Brother Starr is certainly not a person that you want to be sending your money to.
	But Brother Starr has never been sponsored by gold and silver.
	At one time he advised people to buy gold and silver for about two weeks.
	He purchased gold and silver, and then for the next two weeks he chastised everyone, telling them that they were of Satan because they were dealing with the money changers in the temple.
	Brother Stare is less than credible, less than honest in my humble opinion, and I'm entitled to my humble opinion.
	However, ladies and gentlemen, Lawrence Myers wants you to believe that if you aspire to certain religious belief, and you believe or listen to a certain religious teacher, that there is something wrong with that.
	He wants you to believe that adults are not capable of making their own decisions.
	And I'm going to tell you right now, if you listen to Brother Starr or any other religious minister, preacher, evangelist, church, whatever, and believe me, Reverend Shuler with his Crystal Cathedral is no less innocent than Brother Starr, and you'd better believe that.
	If you are an adult, You have the right to give your money to anybody that you desire and it's nobody else's business in this world.
	I'm not condoning what Brother Starr says or anyone else.
	I'm not condoning what he or anyone else does with the money they receive.
	I'm not telling you that it's right what they say to people over the airwaves or on television or in their church in order to get that money from people.
	But I'm telling you that if you're an adult, you're over the age of 21, Or whatever the age of concern is and adulthood is in your state, that it's nobody's business who you listen to, what religion you believe in, or how much money, if any, you give to anybody, because that is one of the guaranteed freedoms in this country.
	And that's one of the things that makes this country great.
	...a man to represent himself as the last great prophet of God.
	I think three.
	The last great prophet of God died, uh, 1,980, uh, 1,960 years ago, I suppose, more than 30 years old.
	He died, uh, as the last great prophet.
	Back there in his clothes, he was telling, uh, this economic armageddon.
	He convinced you that, oh, God, This is another thing, ladies and gentlemen.
	Brother Starr has never sold economic Armageddon, and neither has any preacher or evangelist that I've ever heard on television or radio.
	what they preach is the book of revelations or their particular brand of religious judgment
	and if you're not doing the right and proper thing according to the way they see it or
	if you're not tithing according to the amount they believe you should be tithing or if you
	haven't done certain things which usually amounts to contributing money then you're
	not going to go to heaven you're going to go to hell and that's usually the message
	it has nothing to do with economics or anything else and you've all listened to these people
	you know that.
	Thank you.
	.
	Well, that's it, folks.
	Good night.
	And God bless each and every single one of you, as much as I'm able to say that tonight.
	There's some of you that I certainly would like to say something else about, but I can't.
	You see, my own particular brand of religion forbids it.
	So whoever you are, and whatever you've done, and however bad or good you've been, God bless you.
	And come back, and we'll be here again tomorrow.
	This is the voice of freedom.

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