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July 18, 1997 - Bill Cooper
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Micheal Cottingham – Herbs
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I'm William Cooper.
Conference 97, Day 3.
4 p.m.
ninety seven day three. Four year. Michael Coddingham.
I want to point out before if I don't answer any particular questions that you have, I'm
that you have tomorrow or the next day, kiss me somewhere.
And, you know, I'll try to make myself available sitting down under the shade somewhere if somebody wants a one-on-one consultation.
Bring a pencil and paper, so I don't waste my breath.
So you write this stuff down, and if you're serious about a consultation, and you're serious about some information and some direction, Bring a pencil and paper, write it down, and check it out.
If you take the time to ask a question, take the time to take the notes, I'll take the time to tell you what I know and see if I can help you out.
Especially if you want to go into this or a one-on-one consultation.
That's kind of what I'm here for.
I try to cover as many broad-spectrum stuff as I can so you walk away with something of value.
We've talked about a lot of different things.
Questions today on some of the things we've covered.
Do you have questions on some of the rambling so far?
Any questions?
Questions today.
Any going once?
Any twice?
I recommend the Michael Moore books highly because a lot of plants in Texas, even though
these books are the desert and sea canyons southwest, or the desert and canyons west,
and the mountains west, and the Pacific west, plants are where you find them.
And you'd be amazed at how many plants that grow in the southwest that you can find back
east, that you can find in Texas.
And a lot of the ecosystems in Texas aren't that much bigger than parts of New Mexico.
So I think Michael Moore's books, not only because they'll cover some of the plants,
but because Michael Moore is my most revered and respected teacher.
That's why we took the time to film him in the field, to put two films together, to capture
his oral tradition on film so that he could learn from it.
His anatomy and physiology is immense, and he can paint a picture about the anatomy and physiology of the human body in relationship to medicinal plant better than anyone else alive.
There's also another book, a good book, it's the Peterson Field Guide series, I believe it's the Medicinal Plants of the East Coast.
It's a lot of nice photographs put out by Stephen Foster and James Duke.
Very good for identification, gives you some additional uses.
Usually you have to have several books.
you have to have a really good identification book or two, and you have to have some good
medical herbal books.
There are very few books that actually combine all of those.
Botanical medicine is immense.
You want good identification books, you want good books on medical herbalism.
And, you know, in the 1800s, probably many of you out there are bibliophiles, book lovers,
people who caught rare bookstores and used bookstores.
Try to find old medical texts from the 1800s, specifically the United States Dispensatory
or the National Formularies of the 1800s.
When you do that, sometimes you can pay four or five dollars for this book, and other places
will spend hundreds for the same book.
Some people don't recognize the value of it, some people do.
The old medical books of the 1800s, especially the United States Dispensatory that was put
out almost every ten years from about the early 1800s, every ten years, up until today.
They still do the United States Pharmacopoeia, as some people say.
These dispensatories and these United States Pharmacopoeias list botanical medicines at
the height of herbal medicine.
It's when science and medicine came together to form probably the best phase of herbalism that we've ever had.
And that's what doctors used in the 1800s.
90% of what's in those books is herbal medicines.
The remaining percentage is usually minerals.
Sulfur, etc, etc.
They talk a lot about water therapies.
The difference between spring water, rain water, well water, river water, lake water, pond water.
Because each one of these different sources of water have a different series of properties.
Rainwater needs to be considered critically medicinal.
He says if you collect rainwater to capture its medicinal properties of electrically charged rain, you might want to filter it before you drink it because of the air pollution that we have.
Stream water, pond water, lake water, It's just not like it once was.
The old days, they used electricity.
They used colloidal silver in the 1800s, colloidal gold.
They used metals and minerals and things like sulfur and charcoal.
So the other 10% that's in these dispensatories are interesting medicines, some of which we don't use anymore today or are not available.
These old dispensatories, the United States dispensatory, old national formularies.
Tom Brown votes are good.
Survival insights.
Medicinal plants.
How to use plants for survival.
How to build shelters.
How to recognize animal tracks.
Good source.
Good source.
Tom Brown is an authority.
First-hand experience.
He lives it.
He lives it intensely.
He teaches it intensely.
His information is first-hand experience.
Like the Michael Moore books.
Not only researches and writes and teaches, but he's owned herb stores, he's taught medicine at medical colleges, anatomy and physiology, he's a doctor.
Anatomy and physiology and how herbs affect this, how they affect the human body, first-hand.
You want references that are first-hand experiences by the author.
There's a lot of great books out there, but they're nothing more than well-researched, compiled, edited pre-books.
The author is a good researcher.
These books may have some value, they may have some good pictures and some good recipes, but you want books where the person has done it, picked it, made medicine, used it with thousands and thousands of people, and this is what he or she is writing about.
And those are the valuable books, and there are very few of them.
Michael Moore, James Duke books, Stephen Foster.
These are some that come to mind.
Susan Reed, she covers female herbal medicine very elegantly and very accurately.
She's one of the elder ladies, the elder witches, you might say, of the herbal kind of witch.
But, you know, that's what they were called as they were being burned and slaughtered by the thousands in the old days.
That's how we lost a lot of our herbal medicine, because we killed off our herbalists.
Because those who knew about plants, and those who helped people use plants for healing, well, I don't have to explain.
you know, it's a mixture of self-sufficiency and that's a threat.
Midwives.
Midwives were persecuted.
Midwives are, you know, were male, mostly women, but they were female and male health
care practitioners that helped deliver children that were all kind of obolus and combined
with being able to deliver babies.
They were persecuted, destroyed, burnt, declared witches.
By who?
By the allopathic male medical practitioners of the time.
Because midwives had too much power, too much respect for nature, too much, they were too
effective and they didn't cost anything and they were a threat to the medical business
of the days.
And so one of the reasons why there was such things as witchcraft or how the persecution
of witches was because basically somebody wanted to eliminate somebody else because
of greed and money and power.
And so there was a lot of herbalists, there was a lot of tradition, a lot of lore.
There's a few herbalists out there, Susan Weed, one of them, James Green, who wrote
the Male Herbal, highly recommended for men.
The Male Herbal is a sensitive, well-written reflection on male health, prostate problems, prostate cancer.
It could be the most important book for men to deal with cancer and health problems that
have a tendency to specifically affect men.
Prostate problems, reproductive problems, impotence, things of that nature.
The Male Urge by James Green.
That's another good book.
There's a lot of them out there.
I guess the ones that come to mind.
Any more questions?
We're getting some looking at a water processor or something because the water that comes
into our homes usually is chlorinated and not all that healthy.
Is there any kind of recommendation for what we should be using or looking for or considering
in order to be able to protect our intake of water?
What kind of water filters are beneficial or what...
That's a...
Yeah, I'm just passing time.
I found that there's a multi-level marketing scheme out there.
A company...
A multi-level marketing is a very successful way of protecting companies, making lots of
Those people who are aggressive actually do well, but, um, it's a form of capitalism that benefits a lot of people.
A lot of good products.
There's one multi-tier water filters, which is a multi-level.
You have to find a distributor of a multi-level marketing, um, a multi-level marketer of the water, the multi-tier water filters that this company puts out.
They have several patents and in fact they supply filters to a majority of other companies.
So they are the regional patent owners and designers of some of the most sophisticated
and effective water filters on the market.
Two to four hundred dollars depending on if you want just a sink or if you want a whole
house system.
These are incredible water filters.
You've got to buy a distributor.
I'm not a distributor, but I've used water filters on all of my peers, and they're very effective.
They're talk of water filters.
They're silver nitrate.
They're reverse osmosis.
They all have their drawbacks.
They all have their limitations.
Sometimes it's a combination of two.
You kind of have to, depending on what area you live in, are you working towards parasites and amoebas, or do you have more heavy metals?
That might be, you know, those are the questions you ask yourself.
And the best way to make a choice about water filters is to read a lot, educate yourself, look at the different models, and become basically an expert.
Then you know what you need.
And ask those questions.
What are you trying to filter out?
Is it just chlorine?
Then a good charcoal filter, but does it cost too much?
Is it chlorine and heavy metals?
Is it pesticides, herbicides?
Is it, you know, is it amigos and parasites?
Heavy metals and chlorine.
Is it all of those?
And that can help you in your choices.
I just found that's what I've used, that's what I research, is the multi-pure to me satisfy my needs for chlorinated water and heavy metals.
What's the difference between drinking distilled water and drinking Distilled water, if not done properly, what are those things, hydrocarbons, may not be removed, but maybe, I'm not sure.
I know there are some, if distilled water isn't properly distilled, some things can still remain in the water.
Good distilled water, actually, is probably okay.
You know, we get vitamins and minerals from our vegetables, from our plants.
The things I worry about is chlorinated water.
I want to stay away from chlorinated water as much as possible.
100%.
I'm a smoker.
I like to smoke tobacco even though it's organic.
The nicotine and the chlorine are still going to come together to form something quite deadly.
I have to stay away from chlorinated water all the time.
Plus chlorine will kill off your intestinal flora, your friendly bacteria, your friendly
funguses, and as a result of that you can have so many health problems you wouldn't
believe it.
Just because you don't have enough bacteria, enough flora and fauna in your intestinal
tract, you can have candida problems, chronic fatigue problems, you can have an immense
amount of problems just because you drink chlorinated water, it kills off the bugs in
your gut, the good bugs in your gut.
So chlorine is what I want to get rid of.
I'm drifting.
Distilled water versus mineral water, that was the question.
Chlorinated water, main things are one.
Heavy metals, another thing.
Pesticides, herbicides.
I don't know.
One of the things I looked on a file, it said Glacier Springs Water at once.
And at first glance, it looks good, the picture's good, but it says bottled in Miami.
You know, so, it's a multi-billion dollar business of suspects, swindling, I mean, there are many companies that I bet just run into a charcoal filter, take out the chlorine, and call it spring water.
So, buying that type of water, it's just, it's a shot in the dark, I think.
Because it's a multi-billion dollar industry, and we all know, when money comes into play, people are going to take shortcuts.
The best thing is research the filters, and carry your own, filter your own, carry your own water.
At least one of the most important medicines is worth all the energy and effort to do that.
I was going to say, I think I can answer this question.
If you have something that's in the water, like gasoline, like you mentioned, hydrocarbons,
if it evaporates the same rate or quicker than water, it's going to go right with the water.
And I know that some of these, you know, they have the outside evaporate,
but a lot of the time the fumes from the other things will go out and still capture the water.
But, you know, basically, if you're worried about it's worth it, it's going to evaporate by water.
Exactly, yeah.
And distilled water doesn't mature depending on the process of who distilled it, that everything has removed.
And we often think it's the purest of all the waters.
But the hydrocarbons are sometimes very hard to get rid of, very hard.
I think that just because water is not a pure form of water, you can't say that water is still deionized and filled with certain filters and run through only a couple of pipes, what we call pure water, to certain lengths.
That's pretty intense.
That's a lot of...
I require the integrity of the research lab to trust the people of the lab.
In other words, they have to agree with us unless you're a good researcher.
That's more than what most of these distillers are going to do.
They're going to be a good distiller.
I don't know.
I don't have known enough about that to answer that.
Anybody here know?
I'd be dubious about it.
Go ahead.
Well, when I heard about that, I can't confirm that, but if you have distilled water that doesn't have dimples, and it's foggier than when you drink it, there's a door behind it.
I don't know if that's true or not, but that's what I heard.
Okay.
Dr. Quincy, the Bill Foundation, which is a $5.00 and he's done the latest research on T-Metastomal. And it can take
out your chloride and it can take out your uterus. So the important thing is to leach out the important minerals that
your body needs. And I can't quote the verse, but I share it with a lot of people that I've met.
There seems to be a lot of information out there that maybe requires a little bit more research and maybe even the
industry doesn't ever talk about it.
I mean, it sounds like you can go from science to pure water to be very complex to an all-over weight.
I mean, it sounds like there's a lot of unanswered questions with that.
I'm going to take a specific question here.
They are possibly going to carry a channel back to one of these neighborhoods which is so large.
So when we invite you to trade your food in the freezer, they have kept reaching up with these little feet in the
freezer with pointy phones.
So your thing I think is grabbing dust particles.
I can't explain to you in a way what I have.
I could make something up, but I won't be able to be honest.
Coming off the ice cubes.
together as artists, it is just every so many kids, a little bit of each. It's special.
I've seen that.
I don't know if it's an action of the formation of ice and there's ice in the box and it's whisking up some of the water out of the tray and just forming an ice crystal.
Uh, but I've seen that on my ice cubes.
And we've got, we, our water comes out of, uh, our water's geothermal.
It's a hot spring's water, uh, comes out the cistern, where hot springs, uh, seep out of rocks into a cistern, and then we gravitate it down to the house, and it's probably about 100, 105 degrees, uh, at the source, and by the time it gets to the house, it's, it's warmer, it's probably, you know, I don't know.
I don't remember.
I don't know how gauging the temperature.
I'm guessing 85.
It's not quite body temperature, but it's just pretty warm water.
I don't know what that was about, but any more questions?
All right, I want to talk about an herb called milt thistle.
Milt thistle For 70% of us in this room can probably, you'll use it at one point or another in your life and this could be the most important plant that you ever learn about and ever use for serious medical problems.
Milk thistle.
It's a thistle-sized plant.
We don't have any growing around here, but we can throw seeds out.
If we have the seeds of milk thistle, we can throw it out, and they would grow with a little water.
It's a thistle.
Thistles are hard to eradicate.
They become established.
In fact, parts of the United States forbid the sale of milk thistle seeds.
I just heard recently that Washington State still allows you to sell milk thistle extract, but the seeds of milk thistle are now outlawed in health care shops.
Because it becomes a noxious plant, quote, noxious, you know, whatever, end quote.
It takes over farmers' fields and pastures and it will, you know, form an incredible big giant thorny rosette with these giant stalks of big purple thistle-like flowers.
And if anybody, if you don't know what thistle is when we're outside, ask me and I'll point out the thistle.
There won't be no thistle, but it'll give you an idea of What to look for?
The leaves of milk thistle are green and white for what's called barricade.
They have a predominant green on the outside, but they have white blotching running down the middle of the vein going off on lateral or side veins.
So it's mottled.
It's white, mottled appearance on a dark green leaf.
The seeds are what we use of the plant.
The seeds of milk thistle.
and they contain a substance called silamarin.
Silamarin was isolated from milk thistle about as close to 20 years ago in Europe.
In France, I think, first, then Germany, Spain, Italy, Great Britain,
there's all been research and there's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of papers
that have been written on milk thistle, but specifically on the active ingredient or the active
constituent, silamarin.
Silamarin is an amazing substance.
Now, you can use milk thistle in a number of different ways.
You can take the seed, you can feed it.
I can classify milk thistle as a food slash medicine.
It's somewhere between pumpkin and sunflower seeds in taste, so you can eat no-thistle seeds on a regular basis, bring them into your diet as another seed, contain oil, protein, and the silver mirror.
You can also make an alcohol extract from no-thistle seeds.
You make a dry seed extract, a 1 to 5 ratio, and you'll learn about this later on, and I assure you that.
And after you've made the extract, then you go through another process to make what's called a glycerite.
You basically double-boil your herbal extract, remove all the alcohol, and put glycerin in.
And it's an alcohol evaporated process.
You remove the alcohol, transfer it into glycerin.
Glycerin is a very sweet substance, somewhere between alcohol and water.
And it's solvency.
It's a weak solvency.
Those of you with a good science background, would you classify glycerin as almost, it's almost like an alcohol.
Is that correct?
For those that may know about glycerin on the molecular level, I always classify glycerin as, it's like, it's very similar to alcohol in its solvency strength, but its molecular structure is a little bit different, but it's a solvent.
It's a sweet tasting and it's one of the solvents that we use in herbal medicine.
When you make a milk thistle, you need to eat the seeds or you make an alcohol extract,
you get all the sodium in and out, then you evaporate the alcohol and now you have a sweet
tasting glycerin.
Because the reason why, it's a liver herb.
Milk thistle is a liver herb and in many conditions you don't want any alcohol.
You know, like when they're treating cirrhosis of the liver, you don't want any alcohol in it.
So we make alcohol-free glycerides, as we call it, using this substance, glycerin, after we've initially extracted the seeds.
It's hard to describe because there's several processes I'm talking about here.
Milk thistle seeds by themselves can be eaten.
You can take a milk thistle glycerite, and you need to either eat the seeds or use an
alcohol glycerin extract because it's not water soluble.
The silmarin you will not get if you make a tea from it.
That's why I'm trying to belabor this.
You have to use either the extract or you have to eat the seeds in order to get the
silmarin, and the silmarin is what you're after.
It's not water soluble.
You can't make a tea from the seeds.
So there's a little background on the preparations and such.
It's a liver herb, and the liver will, the liver by itself, let's talk about the liver
The liver is the organ that filters, filters waste.
It's the organ that's responsible for a major portion, there's a liver-stomach relationship and digestion.
The liver is important in filtering, the liver is important in assimilating and moving vitamins
into the right, and minerals into the right areas of the body.
The liver is important for making the immune system very strong by the liver, and in various
ways the liver is responsible for helping to make red blood cells, absorb vitamins,
eliminate waste, the liver is responsible for metabolic transfer, absorption, elimination.
The liver is the first line, first organ on line to deal with heavy metals and toxins.
It has to process these, filter these, direct these to be removed out.
The liver deals with fats and cholesterols in conjunction with the gallbladder.
The liver is important.
I mean, those are just some topics, some things that the liver does.
It doesn't mean more things.
When the liver becomes diseased or becomes exposed to solvents like alcohol, in the case of alcoholism and cirrhosis of the liver, industrial solvents, pharmaceutical drugs, recreational drugs, all these things can damage the liver, causing cirrhosis.
Cirrhosis of the liver is when part of the liver gets basically damaged and shut down and becomes hard.
That's what cirrhotic means, a hardened liver.
You have a part of your liver that's shut down, no longer making cells, no longer doing all those various functions.
People die from cirrhosis of the liver.
20, 30, 40, 50% of your liver becomes corroded.
There isn't much that western medicine has to offer you.
Basically, some narcotics for the pain and puts you on the list for a liver transplant.
That's here in this country.
Now in Europe, if you were to have cirrhosis of the liver, they would prescribe an intravenous solution or a concentrate of Siloamarin.
Because what Siloamarin does is it regenerates liver cells.
And I have seen through studies that I have performed in conjunction with doctors and people with a 40% cirrhotic liver, we have watched a 40% cirrhotic liver within 6 months go from 30, to 20, to 10, back to normal.
All of the cirrhosis was eliminated through the use, not of the intravenous solution that they have in Europe.
We can't get it.
It's illegal to get milk thistle, intravenous injections of milk thistle here.
Number one, in Europe, nobody gets liver transplants because milk thistle is available pharmaceutically, intravenously.
You could be having liver failure due to a massive exposure of solvents and it will shoot you up with so much intravenous selenarin that immediately the solvents stop damaging the liver and that these cells begin to grow in the liver and your liver cells regenerate, the tissue comes back.
And the reason why, they found that this active chemical, silamarin, actually puts a protective membrane around each individual liver cell.
Millions of cells in the liver.
And a healthy liver will make its own cells to keep business going.
You know, and it's only when you become diseased or exposed to solvents or toxins is when the liver can't keep up with the production of cells.
The healthy liver will make all the cells release, but in the case of solvent poisoning,
amino acid mushroom poisoning, toxins of severe nature that damage the liver, that literally
dissolve the liver, they will shoot people off with intermediate solutions of milk thistle
and immediately the decay will stop.
Cells will regenerate.
It's because that silver neuron forms a protective membrane around each and every cell in the liver.
And this membrane allows all the liver functions to take place, but prevents toxins and heavy metals and solvents from reaching those cells.
What I'm saying is that you take Or you're in Europe and you do an intravenous injection of milk thistle, what you receive is a protective membrane around all of your liver cells.
That all the poisons and toxins in the environment, or the poison that may be in your system destroying your liver right then and there, do not reach the liver anymore.
But the liver's functions can carry on.
I don't know if I said that well enough, but what I said is one of the most, that's like the most important herb, really, in today's world.
There's no other substance on the face of the earth that actually will put a protective membrane around each and every liver cell.
Now, after all the research was focused, they also show that the possible peripheral research showed that it puts that cell around the kidneys.
That membrane around the kidney cells, around the spleen, and around the brain.
Now, if that is true, it's more immense and more important than ever before.
Question?
Why is it illegal?
Intravenous, um, why is it illegal?
Why is milk thistle, intravenous solution of milk thistle, of thistle marron illegal
in this country?
It would take a lot of millions of dollars.
The Europeans aren't that wrapped up into that heavy duty of spending that many millions
of dollars to improve something that helps thousands and millions of people.
In this country, the average pharmaceutical drug, I forget the latest statistic, but the last time I remember it,
the average pharmaceutical drug takes $250 million to research, market, develop, and get out approved.
Now, they could probably give their money back with a silver marron concentrate.
But the problem is, Silmarin is rarely available in milkless seeds.
Silmarin, in large, in a very effective quantity, Silmarin is available in good quality herbal extracts, and that's Silmarin.
You're saying that the Silmarillion is in the seeds and not in the milk itself?
It's throughout the whole plant, but concentrated medicinally.
The Silmarillion is concentrated medicinally, mostly in the seeds.
So if you want to help your liver, really give it some help, you need to do something with the seeds instead of the plant.
Is that correct?
Yes, anything from protecting yourself from environmental toxins to dealing with cirrhosis of the liver.
You should want to use the seeds over any other part of the plant.
And if you see a thistle, it's really hard to use the other parts of the plant because they're very spiny, very thorny, and very hard to deal with.
When milk thistle is very young and first coming up, and the spines aren't formed to harden, they're not hard-formed spines, you can harvest The young shoots can use it as a vegetable, and there's enough silmarin in that to help provide the liver with good medicine.
But most of the medicinal value is locked in the seeds.
I think it may be a matter of time before an intravenous solution will be here in this country.
It'll be hard to stop.
Well, in the case of... Why does the milk thistle have to be intravenous?
That's the question.
She's asking why does the milk thistle have to be intravenous?
Well, what they do... It doesn't have to be intravenous.
I'm saying you can eat the seeds of milk thistle.
I'm also saying that you can make an herbal extract from the seeds and use that.
But in serious situations... I'm going to give you an example to explain this.
Those of you in California, was it last year?
Or was it very recent?
I was wondering if it was within two years, maybe it was even last year, that those people went out, a whole group of people, and ate the Amanita phalloides mushroom.
Amanita phalloides mushroom.
The dead cat mushroom.
Anybody remember that story?
Sacramento, San Francisco, Oakland, maybe somewhere in that area?
Well, several of those people got a liver transplant, didn't they?
And several of them died.
In fact, I think one of the heirs to one of the, not the Gallo, I think it was a Gallo, Sebastiani, you know, mushrooms are great.
They're gourmet, they're food tasting, they're a lot of nutrition, there's like a lot of people want to go out and hunt them, because they taste good, and they really, and they're very good medicines and food for vitamins and minerals.
I don't know if she died or lived as a result of the transplant.
But you know what?
Some people died in California.
Some people ended up, I think the little girl ended up with a liver transplant.
I don't know if she died or lived as a result of the transplant.
But you know what? That would have never happened in Europe because these people would have got a concentrated psilomerin.
For most of us, there's no thistle seeds and extracts enough.
But when you're dying of liver failure, when you take Amanita phalloides mushroom, the substance thaladine is literally dissolved in your liver.
You don't have time for an herbal extract.
You need the silamarin-extracted concentrate, which can only be delivered intravenously.
Does that sort of answer your question?
There are times when your liver is so shut down and so damaged, You don't have time to do the same simple long-term herbal medicine.
You need to go to the concentrator.
And that's what they've done in Europe.
they concentrated the silamarin so that in these life-saving situations where people
used to die, now they don't die anymore because they can go to the hospital, get an intravenous
injection of silamarin, and their liver stops breaking down and immediately begins to regenerate.
You know, the fatality rate in France for the dead cat mushroom ingestion used to be
over 90%. That's over 15 years ago. Now that they use milk thistle in the hospitals and
for these particular types of mushroom poisons, the fatality rate has dropped to less than
1%. In this country, those people died and those people, off the choice of a doctor,
these people, was a liver transplant.
Across the ocean, nobody's dying from the same mushroom, because of the intravenous silvermarin solution.
That, I mean, I don't know why it's not in this country.
It stays lost.
Liver transplant is a big problem.
Liver disease is the third largest killer in this country.
And I'll tell you what, for 90% of all those liver problems, milk thistle would be the answer.
Now, we're talking about an industry.
90% of these people would benefit, get healed, go on about a healthy life if they had access to milk thistle.
This country is a medical, I don't know.
And everything else in between is a monster.
And if you brought milk thistle in intravenously, the third largest disease would not long... the third largest problem in health, liver disease, would not be a problem anymore.
It would be pushed down to twentieth or fiftieth because of one plant and one isolated chemical, the silmarin.
And that's probably why it's not in this country, to be honest with you.
It's not because of red tape.
It's because that's the bottom line.
A lot of people would lose money.
You know?
A lot of money.
I mean... I mean, hummus is a liver transplant.
It costs...
I wanted to say, my mother's diagnosed with cirrhosis.
She got it from diabetes, so you can get it from other health problems.
And I know what you're saying, and so this health is unavailable, and he's talking about it, so we're using the ACTRACT.
He's talking about it with her, and she has noticed some improvement, although I still don't think she's in there, because she needs more than what we've been able to do for her here.
My mother is using milk thistle because she has cirrhosis.
And there are a lot of factors.
We're talking about if you're 15 years old, 20 years old, 35, 45, 55 years old.
These medicines can make the difference.
That treatment is available.
The problem is you have to go to Europe to get it.
And also you can't afford that treatment.
Correct, Bill.
That treatment, that psilomarin injections, is available if you need the country to get it.
The closest thing you can get now is a dry powder concentrate of 85% psilomarin.
It is available now, and you have to put it in capsules and take it.
That's the latest thing that's become available.
You can get the dry powder, but you can't make an intravenous solution of it without risk.
And that is now available.
85-90% Sulmarin powder is available.
What is the time frame between actually making that and eating a healthy liver again?
What is the time frame between taking milk thistle and a healthy liver again?
It's a very hard question.
I'll give you some examples of other reasons and other parameters to use milk thistle.
Supposedly, the liver is a major problem.
Milk thistle is an herb to research.
Keep in mind, it can't save your life.
It can prevent a liver transplant.
I don't think any of us in this room... I know I can't afford a liver transplant.
And I'm glad I know about milk thistle.
And I've actually seen it work so many times with science backing it up, with doctors I've got.
Twelve doctors in our town use the milk thistle on a regular basis because it's such an important herb in their practice.
They use it to improve the health of their liver on a number of different planes, which affects so many different problems.
The dermatologist in town uses milk thistle.
I highly recommend it.
He sends people down by the throes to the herb store for milk thistle and he's the dermatologist.
Now you're going to say, what do skin problems and liver have to do with each other?
The liver is the main organ that governs the quality of the skin.
Without the liver being healthy, your skin won't be healthy.
If your liver's not healthy, your skin won't be healthy.
Any skin problem you see on the surface is a reflection of 80% of the time the liver, the other 20% of the time the kidneys, and often a combination of both.
Eczema, acne, psoriasis, almost all dermatological problems.
Skin allergic reactions are not necessarily what you would call, what I would call, skin problems.
They are liver problems.
You see it on the skin, but it's actually going on in the liver.
The skin is the largest organ system in the body, but it takes the liver and kidneys to maintain its health.
So when you see a problem on the surface, like eczema, psoriasis, These weird dermatological problems, acne, these are liver problems.
To give you an example, remember jaundice?
Babies get jaundice, right?
We know, all of us who know a little bit about medicine know that jaundice is not, it's a liver problem.
If you had a child that's had jaundice, the doctor said, well the skin is going to turn yellow, the eyes are going to turn a little yellow, but it's because of a vitamin deficiency, you eat a little bit more sun, you know, this and that, but basically those who ask the questions find out that it's a liver problem.
But you see it in the skin.
And so as a result, we use milk thistle to treat skin problems.
And when I started doing that, the success rate of results went from pretty good with
skin ointments and kind of cleansing keys to almost 100% for eczema, almost 100% for
psoriasis.
If you try to find some pharmaceutical medicine that will deal with eczema and psoriasis,
on that success level of almost 100%.
Drinking more water, taking a lot of milk thistle if you have psoriasis, I can almost
say I'm guaranteed that within two weeks, if you sat down and talked, you had psoriasis,
I recommended X amount of milk thistle, X amount of water, and he took to that and stayed
to that.
If you didn't see a result, a beneficial result, you'd be the first person I ever met out of
the thousands that I recommended milk thistle to.
I was just going to ask, what of the situation in Mexico?
I understand you get a lot of things going there that might be available in Europe.
I've asked frequently because I've perused the pharmacies and looked for obscure medicines that may be of benefit in Mexico.
I imagine you might be able to order it.
You might be able to get it through the right channels.
I don't speak fluent Spanish, but if I did, I thought I could get a conversation going, talk to a pharmacist, and I think you could bring it up.
No one so far has been able to, even a few people that can speak Spanish, who said they had tried, but I don't know if they did or not.
So I don't know about the availability.
As of today, as of the last time we tried, maybe a month ago, no such luck.
Did you hear that the tracking on it did on that?
It's not letting go of everything.
But do you think the sample may be going to be further future?
You bet.
The botanical name for Milk Thistle, that's your question, what is the botanical name of Milk Thistle, is Sillybum, S-I-L-Y-B-U-M, I believe, you know, I'm kind of a writer, not a speller, that's what I use it for, Sillybum Marinerum.
Marinerum.
Marinerum.
M-A-R something.
You can look at one of the folks in the back.
I'm sorry.
I mean, I could call this spell at about 11 in the morning, but now I don't think I can spell it.
So we bought Marinerum.
And the active constituent of no physical seeds is Selamerum.
So, the liver governs the quality of the skin.
By improving the functions of the liver, by improving the filtration of the liver, by bringing liver health up, you can improve the skin, digestion, eyesight, constipation problems, fat absorption problems, a lot of things.
But if you have skin problems, I suggest you try milk thistle for almost any skin problem.
What about liver spots?
Liver spots.
Um, liver spots and the liver, um, could be a number of different things.
You might want to talk later on.
Um, but without a doubt, milk thistle.
Without a doubt.
You're not going to get any overnight results or any two week massive results.
That's something you're going to take a little bit further.
Maybe after two months out of continuous use but maybe a month of heavy use and you start tapering off.
I'll tell you more specific doses and then we'll talk about a few other things because it might be some kidney herbs too.
But no chrysalis, for sure.
Absolutely.
Without a doubt.
You will get some food, you know, and maybe a lot, depending.
It might be just, how long have you had them?
A couple years?
There might be some other things I can tell you.
Because if you've had them 20 years, it might be congenital or inherited.
But if you've only had them for a few years, no chrysalis.
You probably do really well with no chrysalis.
It's probably a good time to try it.
Milk thistle is the most important plant because you probably can maybe take it.
I think all the plants have some value and some importance.
But let's face it, there's heavy metals everywhere, polluted water everywhere, toxins everywhere.
People, we ingest toxins, we drink a lot of coffee, we smoke a lot of tobacco, we eat polluted food, etc., etc., etc.
Our environment has these elements in them.
The more you read about milk thistle, the more you use it, the more protected your liver will be from these problems in our environment.
And if you get some serious problems, like cirrhosis, like eczema, like psoriasis, you will find, Bob, the only answer available in this country.
because I'll tell you what, those of you who know medicine, some of you out here, maybe
doctors out here, those of you who know what I'm talking about, you know there's nothing
for cirrhosis in this country, you know there's nothing for eczema because you get it, it
keeps coming back every once in a while, and it may temporarily go away, but you haven't
addressed the real problem.
Most dermatological problems are reoccurring.
Dermatological problems.
Psoriasis keeps coming back.
You know that our medicine system as it is has nothing to offer for these problems.
If you're somebody who takes cortisone, somebody who takes anti-inflammatory drugs, somebody who's on a lot of prescription medicines, you need to take nophthysol.
Because those drugs are going to stress the liver and they're going to damage the liver.
And nophthysol can keep those drugs Especially the anti-inflammatory drugs like cortisone, prednisone, asthmatics who use inhalers.
It's often a prednisone-based drug.
Anti-inflammatory.
These drugs take the toll on the liver and set the stage for massive disease and illness later on.
These drugs, these anti-inflammatory pharmaceutical drugs that are available destroy the liver.
And there's this much information available to those who care to show and prove that.
Do you have a question?
I'm going to put a microphone and a cello here for the way it does.
Two words, S-I-L-Y-E-Y-U-M.
Okay.
And the second word is M-A-R-Y-A-N-U-M.
Very nice.
Excellent.
I forgot the Y and the cello part.
Michael Moore, he's one of the most fantastic herbalists on the face of the earth.
But your question is stubborn sometimes, too.
I'm not sure I'm going to get it.
Questions?
Did you have a question?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, you've got a spelling of Y-U-M.
You've got to spell in a Y-U-N.
S-I-L-Y-E-Y-U-N.
Okay.
Are we ready to ask a question?
This is in a higher order.
I was just going to ask you, if I was, if I wanted to, I was going to say it, if I wanted to do something like
preventative maintenance, OK, I'll see you again. OK.
How many seeds do you need?
Whether they have toxicity?
Of the milk thistle seeds, there is no known toxicity.
It's incredible.
The only side effect that you will get that may be irritating, if you take too much milk thistle, you'll end up with a laxative effect.
And what you have to do then is You can eat the seeds.
Bring them in.
We're talking about the most important plant medicine that I've yet to... I mean, the case histories that I could relate of what I've... terminal cases, liver shutouts, cirrhotic liver cases.
It's an amazing plant.
And here, the side effects, I mean all plants have some side effects.
And here the worst side effect is the laxative effect, which believe it or not, those people
who are usually liver deficient, liver stressed, who have cirrhosis of the liver, who have
eczema, who have psoriasis, all have a tendency to be constipated anyways.
And here's an herb that you take, I mean it's almost, some people who have serious liver
weakness and deficiencies by nature will be constipated.
So here's a plant that is ultimate for rebuilding liver cells, for regaining toxins and the
damage to the cells.
And the side effect is a laxative, which most of those people in those situations will be
able to get rid of.
And here's a plant that is ultimate for rebuilding liver cells, for regaining toxins and the
damage to the cells.
And here's a plant that is ultimate for rebuilding liver cells.
And here's a plant that is ultimate for rebuilding liver cells.
For most of those people in those situations...
So it's not a bad plant.
I mean, it has no room toxicity.
Incredible amounts are given.
And in cases of cirrhosis and some of these serious exposures to solvents, you're really going to have to take a lot of those.
A lot of milk to solve.
Let's talk about a maintenance dose for, let's say, the average human in this room.
Whatever that is.
there's no average human in here, but the average person with no major liver problem.
Just the normal liver stress and liver anxiety and liver problems that we all have at the least.
You might want to eat, you know, half teaspoon of seeds, two, three, four times a week.
You can grind the seeds up, put them in breads. You can grind the seeds up, sprinkle it on your salad.
You can grind the seeds up, put it in soups, eat it. Strain the seeds, chew them, eat them, cook with them.
Heat doesn't destroy the sulamarin. That plant is very hardy.
It's alcohol that takes ingestion to break down and absorb the sulamarin.
Heat doesn't really affect it and destroy the sulmarin at all, that I've seen.
No research.
It's very heat-stable.
So you can cook with it.
You can also use an extract, a non-alcohol glyceride, maybe two or three times a week.
Or if you've really been exposed to a saltness.
If you're a painter, if you're a welder, if you're somebody who, a mechanic, if you're
somebody who works with solvents on a daily basis, you should be taking notes this summer.
Mechanics, painters, people who work with solvents on a daily basis have smoked a lot
because their weak livers require smoking as a stimulation for digestion.
They usually drink a lot more alcohol.
They are exposed to solvents.
They usually are good drinkers.
And they usually die of a liver deficiency or a liver problem.
So if you're exposed to solvents on any level, whether it's artistic or industrial, use milk
thistle to protect you on the job site and at home.
Anybody who, I don't know, I've got to go, I've got to go ramble.
Questions about milk thistle, that's the most important thing.
If you ask me questions about milk thistle that may pertain to you or you may want to
know.
I'm going to go to sleep.
Would that be like Milk Thistle?
Uh, no.
There's South Thistles, there's Canadian Thistle.
Those all have different Latin names.
Milk Thistle is, is... Actually, Milk Thistle is the only thistle that I've ever seen that has a variegated leaf structure.
A green and white leaf structure.
Uh, I'm told that that's dangerous or corrosive.
I'm not very worried about it.
I'm here to talk to you about it.
Just get it on your proposed scan website.
I'm here for it.
You're asking pure Chlorines?
Acids?
Absolutely.
You're asking if these, if noxious will help you be protected from it.
So that's, so that's your, your, uh, your difficult work and...
That answers your own question.
You better believe it.
Those are all solvents.
Those are all toxins.
Remember, the liver is the first I mean, you may get an immediate skin reaction, but the real organ, the first organ that comes in contact with these solvents, whether you touch them on your skin, whether you breathe the vapors, is the liver.
You better believe it.
In fact, it could make, you know, say you were to do that and totally absorb into it for many years, you might die as a result of cirrhosis of the liver.
Do your job being exposed to those, even if you take precautions.
and so you were drinking a lot, smoking a lot, stressing yourself out.
All the other things that leads to weak, distressed livers.
How about strong acid?
All acids, all household chemicals, bleaches, all of that, all the industrial solvents, all of the cleaning agents, all the chemical solvents, those all affect the liver.
And if you do it for a long period of time, you'll get, I mean, you get cancer from using those things.
And the reason why you get cancer is because you've stretched your liver out, and your liver can no longer keep you healthy fighting cancer.
That's how you get the cancer.
You get exposed to certain substances, it weakens the liver.
The liver no longer can keep you fighting healthy against cancer cells, and they take hold.
So, it becomes a very important...
Any solvents, any chemicals, any substances that you may be about,
any of these things that affect the liver, melt this one.
I mean, it's safe.
It's benign.
It has no toxicity.
You can treat it as a food-slash-medicine, and in those cases when you want to use it as a medicine, cirrhosis, cirrhosis of the liver is a killer.
And here I'm telling you about something that actually will save your life if other conditions arise.
If you take enough of it, if you stop your alcohol abuse, if you stop your exposure to solvents and things like that.
So any solvents, acids, or chemicals.
You can buy the extract in a lot of herb stores and health food stores.
Some of those, that 85% concentrate can be obtained.
Yeah, it can be obtained.
Just have a good health food store or if you have an herb store.
Does it grow?
No, what you can get is a grow.
It's a Mediterranean plant that naturalized in North America.
It is a waste field plant.
It grows anywhere you lay the seed down, basically.
It's very, very hard.
Oh.
I mean, like the liver.
Is it working with the liver for other types of cancers?
In other words, if someone had a problem in the colon, and the doctor says, well, this isn't cancerous now, we're going to remove this follicle here, but you are at risk for this in the future, because you had this situation, is that something that could be addressed by strengthening the function of the liver using this?
Absolutely.
All cancers have something to do with the immune system, and the liver is one of the main players in the immune system.
So anytime you have cancer, chronic fatigue syndrome, immune system deficiencies, HIV, AIDS, hepatitis, any virus infections that are weakening you, Strengthening the liver with milk thistle.
Strengthening the kidneys by more water.
Strengthening the digestion system by starting to eat any appropriate foods.
You got it.
You got it.
You can't really address the immune system without addressing the liver in many cases.
And this is a very good herb to address the immune system weaknesses with good results.
Question from audience.
Is there any need for a capsule or a cavernous plant?
If it's ground up seeds for the capsules or a concentrated extract, that's fine.
Ingestion.
You'll need to eat it or use an alcohol glycerite transfer extract.
Right, um, you can work with the liver, um, with shingles, but shingles is a herpes virus, and it's a nerve-ending, retrograde virus.
So, I'll use milk thistle to strengthen the liver, because definitely it plays a role.
But what I use is St.
John's Wort.
It's probably the best herpes medicine, and it's specific to shingles.
Because shingles is a herpes disease.
Herpes simplex is the cold sore.
Herpes zoster is the shingles.
And it can have some relationship to chickenpox early on.
It's definitely an immune system viral problem that the liver plays a role in.
In fact, I don't know how many percentages of them.
A lot of the time I would put a two ounce bottle with maybe 30% milk, 2 thirds, of St.
John's Wort in the formula.
St. John's Wort is antiviral.
It's specifically antiviral.
Good night, and God bless each and every one of you.
of the Kyrgyz lars, and it also rebuilds the nervous system, helps to stimulate the growth
of the sheath ending, mylar, mylar sheath, at the end of the nerve ending.
I may have pronounced that wrong, but the sheath that the protective...
That's it for today, folks.
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