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Jan. 31, 1996 - Bill Cooper
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*Piano music* I know.
Please, I know.
I can tell.
Yes, I'm good.
I'm good.
The End
You're listening to the Hour of the Time.
I'm William Cooper.
These are the times that try men's souls.
The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country.
But he that stands it now deserves the love and thanks of men and women.
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered, yet we have this consolation with us that the heart of the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.
What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.
It is dearness only that gives everything its value.
Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods, and it would be strange indeed It's so celestial an article as freedom should not be highly rated.
There's no reason for you to lose all night.
There's nothing something that's gonna change our time. - Mm-hmm.
If I could, I think you would.
If I could, I'd make you understand There's no hurry,
the dawn will come for sure The light of the sun the dawn will come for sure The light of the sun believes, we don't end our If I could, I'd make you understand
If I could, I'd make you understand There's no hurry, the dawn will come for sure The light of the sun is the sun, the dawn will come for sure
The light of the sun is the sun, the dawn will come for sure The light of the sun is the sun, the dawn will come for sure If I could, I'd make you understand If I could, I'd make you understand
There's no reason for you to lose your mind The light of the sun is the sun, the dawn will come for sure The light of the sun is the sun, the dawn will come for sure The light of the sun is the sun, the dawn will come for sure The light of the sun is the sun, the dawn will come for sure The light of the sun is the sun, the dawn will come for sure The light of the sun is the sun, the dawn will come for sure
The light of the sun is the sun, the dawn will come for sure The light of the sun is the sun, the dawn will come for sure The light of the sun is the sun, the dawn will come for sure The light of the sun is the sun, the dawn will come for sure The light of the sun is the sun, the dawn will come for sure The light of the sun is the sun, the dawn will come for sure Hinkson went off the deep end last night ranting and raving.
I thought it was pretty humorous.
Wished I could have heard it.
If any of you taped it, send it to me.
By the way, from what I have heard of that broadcast, if you want some entertainment and you'd like to hear some really nutty, crazy people, you know, Telling you everything in the world you never thought you'd ever hear, and with no substantiation or anything, documentation behind it.
Listen to the Hingston Show.
I guarantee you'll get a good laugh.
And they even have a disclaimer, I understand.
Somebody sent to me in a letter today, got their disclaimer down there.
This program is for entertainment purposes only.
Basically, what the disclaimer says is don't believe a word you hear here.
And from what I've heard of it, that's exactly right.
But it's good entertainment, folks, and I recommend that you listen to it.
But, you know, for entertainment purposes.
The minute you start believing what you're going to hear on that broadcast, then you need a psychiatrist.
Or a psychologist.
Because they're the only people that can deal with that kind of insanity.
Because they're insane themselves.
I have a little tidbit.
Oh, by the way, that little blurb that I did in the beginning of the broadcast.
I want to see if anybody can identify who wrote it.
That's why I did it.
Who wrote that?
And I'm not going to read it again, but you know who wrote it.
Give us a call.
We're going to take calls tonight, folks.
The number is 520-333-4578.
We'll be taking calls the whole hour.
Anything you want to talk about, I don't care.
I just want to take a little break and get some input from the listeners.
This is from the May 1994 issue of Police Magazine, which is a popular law enforcement publication, which is published by Hare Publications, a division of Dyna Corporation, of Carl's California.
I guess it's Carl's Bed, California.
And what it says in this police magazine, folks, is a little bit on the incredible side.
I've got to tell you, this is really something.
There was a debate surrounding what to do with confiscated firearms in police departments.
And the debate was on what to do with weapons you collect on the street.
And one of the biggest answers was this, ladies and gentlemen.
Confiscating and destroying guns as soon as possible moves toward the ultimate goal of disarming the general public.
You heard it from the horse's mouth.
Police magazine.
And this is the reason, given by police officers across the country, why they should confiscate and destroy guns.
Quote, confiscating and destroying guns as soon as possible moves toward the ultimate goal of disarming the general public.
Just like I've always told you, I'm sorry to say I was right once again.
I'm getting tired of being right.
I really am.
But I am.
I'm right.
By golly.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Hi, Mr. Cooper.
Hello.
I enjoy your program a lot.
I hope you don't enjoy it.
Most of the stuff you hear on this broadcast is not something that you would enjoy, but might be glad to hear because it might help save your butt at some future date.
Well, that's certainly something to be happy about, so.
I called you about six months ago, and I wanted to discuss the concept of, if socialists want to disarm us, then why are communist countries sending their SKSs and other cheap weaponry over here?
And you gave me back an answer saying that the way communist revolutions take place is through local insurrections, and it gives an excuse.
Yes, they want to anger the American people.
They're going to make a grab for the guns.
They're flooding the country with cheap weapons and cheap ammunition.
And when that happens, they want the people to revolt and create a state of utter chaos.
For which the World Police Organization of the United Nations and the military forces of the United States and Russia will be fully justified in the eyes of the Sheeple in killing anybody and everybody that opposes them.
And the Sheeple will get down on their knees and beg for control and the restoration of order.
And they will do anything to feel safe and secure again.
And that's how these people will study history.
I mean, it's no mystery.
Sure, sure.
I understand that concept, but I was going to just throw this idea at you.
Sure, go ahead.
It seems like the people who are buying the weapons, though, are the people who want to preserve America as a republic.
And I realize that there, of course, is a percentage of people who are just going to buy it out of fear and for whatever reason.
But it seems like the people who may stockpile or what have you would be the people who are interested in either preserving their own butt or preserving the United States as a constitutional republic.
Well, I beg to differ with you.
There are a minority of people in this country who even know what a constitutional republic is.
That ought to be a big answer to your question.
Number two, have you ever listened to the rhetoric of the National Rifle Association?
Uh, yes.
Did you see how quickly they condemned militias?
Yeah.
Did you see how quickly they condemned so-called patriots as being radical, yet they call themselves patriots?
Sure.
You know, it's a political organization like anything else.
But they couldn't do it without the support and the full approval of their membership.
You see, they're still on the board of directors.
They're still in their offices.
Nobody calls for their Yeah, you've got a point there.
You're damn right I've got a point.
I've got a whole bunch of them.
I could talk the whole hour on exactly what's going to happen and why, who's going to bring it about, who's going to resist and who's not going to resist, and who's going to beg for control.
I've got two other concepts that I wanted to ask you about.
The Constitution... Oh, by the way, I want to ask you, did you know who I was quoting from at the beginning of the hour?
Uh... Yes or no?
No, I don't.
Okay, that's all I wanted to know.
Go ahead.
I wanted to... Okay, the Constitution obviously has a provision in the Second Amendment for the personal bearing of arms.
No, no, it's not a provision.
It absolutely is a limitation on the government.
It states that the government cannot infringe on the rights of the people.
The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
It is the active clause of the second article of amendment.
It is dead, cold, written in stone.
Right, I realize that.
What I want to ask now is, where would you draw the line on what types of weapons would constitute bearing of arms by an individual citizen?
There is no line.
You can own any weapon you want to as long as you pay the proper tax.
Did you know that?
You can own an M1 tank if you pay the tax.
You can own the ammunition too as long as you pay the tax.
Do you know that if the branch Davidians had had an automatic weapon, if they had paid the $200 tax, all those people would still be alive today?
Okay.
But they didn't even have an automatic weapon.
Well, I mean, that's hard to say that they would still be alive today.
They would still be alive.
Supposedly, the raid was because they had automatic weapons.
Well, that's the justification they used.
Well, if he'd have paid a $200 tax, they couldn't have made the raid for that reason, could they?
No, they would have come up with another reason.
Maybe.
We don't know that.
Right.
Okay, it just seems that if you have a weapon that will infringe on someone else's rights... No, no, no, no, no.
It's all about money, it's all about control, and it's all about taxes.
Do you realize that if Randy Weaver had paid the tax for a sawed-off shotgun, Vicky Weaver would be alive today.
His son would be alive today.
He would never have been wounded, and his friend would never have been wounded.
And those little girls would not have been traumatized for the rest of their life by seeing their mother's head blown off, laying in a pool of blood on the floor.
I understand.
Okay, what I'm saying is... You see, those people were killed for a few dollars that he didn't pay in taxes.
And it's a method of controlling and intimidating the population.
I would say it would be more of a method of controlling and intimidating the population than a tax issue.
No, it was a tax issue.
If he had paid the tax, they could not have done it.
Well, they could not have done it, but they would have wanted to do it.
So I would say... No, wait a minute.
You can't guess about these things.
You don't know what's in their mind.
Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't.
We deal with facts on this broadcast.
The fact is, if he'd have paid the tax on that shotgun that was only one quarter inch shorter than the so-called legal limit, and I don't think Randy Weaver even knew it was shot off anyway.
I don't think he knew it was shorter than the legal limit.
But that's beside the point.
It doesn't matter.
The fact is, if he had just paid a few dollars, those people would be alive.
They brought 500 federal agents in there, armored personnel carriers, tanks, weapons up the kazoo, and killed people for a few dollars over the length of a barrel that was one quarter of an inch too short.
Well, that was my point.
I was saying they didn't do it for the $200 because they wasted all the money by bringing the people in there.
Whoa, whoa, whoa!
They did!
That's the only reason that they did it!
I suppose the concept of why they did it could be... No, no, no!
You don't understand this broadcast.
We deal with facts.
Now, you can go write a novel or make up a fantasy or create a script For a wonderful story on television.
But when you're talking on this broadcast, we deal with facts.
The fact is, they went after him for the $200 because he didn't pay it.
He sold a shotgun that was one quarter inch too short without having paid the proper tax to be able to do it.
Okay, okay.
Alright.
I wanted to discuss one more thing, and that is, you've mentioned several times that the purpose of the militia is to enforce the law to... No.
No.
No.
Enforce the laws of the Union.
OK.
It's the exact wording in the Constitution for the United States of America.
Each state has a different reason, and you have to go to each different state's constitution to determine what the state Okay.
Then, given that, would you say that a correct use of the militia would be to protect the borders of the United States, like along the U.S.-Mexican border?
laws of the Union, repel invasion, and suppress insurrection.
No.
Okay.
Then, given that, would you say that a correct use of the militia would be to protect the borders of the United States, like along the U.S.-Mexican border?
No.
No, it is not.
That's not a function, in the first place, of the United States government to protect the borders of the states.
That's a state function which the United States government has commandeered for itself.
For instance, the border between the state of Arizona and Mexico is not a function of protection for the United States government.
It's the business of the citizens of the state of Arizona.
Okay, so should the citizens that comprise the militia in the counties of Arizona Do they have a responsibility to protect the border?
No.
Not unless they're called upon to do so by the governor.
In the state of Arizona, the purpose of the militia is the same as the purpose of the militia in the Constitution for the United States of America.
Unless there's an invasion, an insurrection, or we have to enforce the laws of the state, which means the Constitution of the state of Arizona, the militia has no function.
Okay, is immigration from Mexico into Arizona against Arizona law, then?
I don't know.
Okay, but if it were, you could make the case that it would be a role for it.
No, only if the governor called up the militia to do it.
Okay.
Now, when it comes time for the militia to act, is if the governor and the government of the state of Arizona blatantly Disregards and disobeys the Constitution for the State of Arizona and or the Constitution for the United States of America.
Okay.
And oppresses the people.
Then, we don't need the Governor, we don't need the Congress, we don't need the President.
It is our duty and our responsibility to restore the Constitution to its rightful place as the supreme law of the land.
Okay, so then the only time That the militia can act when the constraints in the Constitution were not being broken would be when the governor called you up.
That's correct.
In the case of insurrection or invasion where lines of communication are not established, it is the duty and responsibility of the militia to form And to oppose the insurrection, and to oppose the invasion, and they don't need to wait for a call up by the governor, but in most instances there would be.
Okay.
Alright, well, thanks for your information and your view on things.
You're welcome.
Alright, goodbye.
My view is always within the law, ladies and gentlemen.
And all you've got to do to know what my viewpoint is going to be on something like that is study the law.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
I didn't think I'd ever get there.
That was a heck of a debate, Bill.
Who's this?
This is Mike in Pennsylvania.
Oh, hello, Mike.
How are you?
I'm one of the very few public officials in Pennsylvania who not only listens to shortwave, but when I took my oath of office on the 2nd of January, I did so on the Bible.
Underneath of that was a copy of the United States Constitution, and underneath of that was a copy of the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
Fantastic.
Hey, I'm trying to get more and more of us out there in public life.
That's great.
Now, to answer your question, Thomas Paine.
You're right.
Absolutely right.
And when did he do it?
It was at a time when the spirits of the Churchill army were flagging, and he did it as a means Kind of at least shame them a little bit into finishing what they started and they didn't.
Yeah, as a matter of fact it was Valley Forge, December 23rd, 1776.
You know the part of Valley Forge that I always look at, I've been to Valley Forge, I slept there at Valley Forge.
I was in the guard and I was there covering a reenactment and it's a very sobering place if you walk around it and don't look at it like it's an empty little park with squirrels and trees.
But look at it for what happened there.
And one of my favorite and sobering quotes of what it always meant to be a United States soldier during the time that I served was this quote by George Washington, which went, You might have tracked the army from White Marsh to Valley Forge by the blood of their feet.
And that was only a 13-mile march.
Yes, but his statement was true.
Many of them had frostbite, they didn't have shoes, their feet were cut and bleeding, and some of them were losing toes along the way.
Absolutely, and these guys stuck it out, and they stuck it out to probably the most adverse time, the worst winter that we had there at the time, and they did it for us.
And all we did was lay down our butts and sleep and not do a thing about it, and now Well, history may repeat itself, I don't know.
I sure hope that Americans are strong and stand tall.
All of our efforts are that history doesn't repeat itself, but we are preparing that should it repeat itself, we will be able to prevail.
Oh, I think we will.
All we've got to do is wake up that American spirit, and it's still out there.
I talk to people every day, and I try to keep them looking, get them to go back and read those documents, the founding papers, and to find out That's just exactly what was meant.
What rights did your grandfather have?
Did your great-grandfather have?
And even to look at it in the lifetime of one individual, I'm 40 years old and I look around at teenagers and they're constantly being harassed for one thing or another for things that used to just be fun when I was a kid.
Yeah, that's absolutely correct.
No, they grow up with fewer and fewer freedoms and that's because we tolerate it for them and we shouldn't tolerate it.
We should put our foot down and say, no, enough is enough.
Well, I did a long time ago, and that's why I'm here behind this microphone.
Well, I'm glad you're there, because I've been listening to you for a couple of years now, and I enjoy each and every show.
Well, thank you.
You're worth staying up late for at night.
Well, I hope so.
Hey, keep up the good work, and God bless you.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
And thank you for calling.
520-333-4578 is the number.
And wow, got an answer to the little thing there.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Uh, Bill?
Yes?
Uh, I have... Turn off your radio.
I've got it down.
My dogs are at Coyote's around here in Close House, and dogs are howling.
Okay, can you talk a little louder?
Uh, yes sir.
Yeah, I can.
I have one comment to make and a couple questions.
Sure.
Uh, I just saw in McIlwainy's intelligence report that Rush Lipov became a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
And one of the questions I'd like to ask, have you ever heard of a man by the name of Jay Merrill?
Doesn't ring a bell.
Doesn't ring a bell.
Yes.
I have the book.
Well, it's true, but it has no bearing upon the income tax.
We've been trying to run him down.
And one other thing, there's a fellow that wrote a book, The Law That Never Was.
Uh-huh.
Are you familiar with him?
Yes.
Have you read the book, or what do you think about the man?
I have the book.
It's a pretty good book.
Well, it's true, but it has no bearing upon the income tax.
It doesn't?
No.
The 16th Amendment, the Supreme Court has ruled that the 16th Amendment did not give the Congress any new powers of taxation.
The 16th Amendment argument is a waste of time as far as income tax goes.
You don't need it anyway.
Not only that, but I haven't seen a judge yet or a case yet where the judge would even listen to that kind of argument anyway.
Is that right?
Yeah.
It's valid.
It was never properly ratified.
A law because of that.
But it did not give the Congress any new powers to tax the United States citizens or the citizens of the several states.
It had to do with other people, other entities.
It has no bearing on it.
No, none at all.
Well, I appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you for calling.
Boy, you can sure hear those coyotes out there, or the dogs, or whichever it was.
Once he told me that, then I could recognize it.
Sounded like a radio echo, you know?
That was a lot of coyotes, that's all I've got to say.
But we've had the same.
When we first moved into this house on the top of this mountain, nobody had lived in this house for quite some time.
As soon as they got the smell of old Sugar Bear, we were surrounded by coyotes for quite a few nights, yipping and yapping and howling at the moon.
And Sugar Bear would run away and play with him for hours at a time.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Yeah, Mr. Cooper, I was wondering what are your thoughts on Steve Forbes?
You really want to know?
Yeah, well, I'm sure it's probably not good.
I just noticed him on TV and I usually catch your broadcast about twice a week and I can't keep up with everybody, but I just wondered what is his position?
Forbes is a member of the elite, a member of the establishment.
Behind the Fortune 500 magazine, and the big corporations, and his so-called flat taxes, unconstitutional, illegal, and unlawful.
You better believe it.
And if you buy into that, he has no limit on it.
And Congress can change it any time they want to, if you go for it.
So it might start out at 17%.
I guarantee in a few years it's going to be 60%.
Oh sure, whatever they would have established.
It's not going to be in your favor.
Absolutely.
And you know, and everybody is running around, oh boy, I'd rather have a flat tax than pay 28% or 30% or whatever it is.
And have a reduction.
Alright, well thank you much.
You're welcome.
All right, well, thanks a night.
You're welcome.
520-333-4578.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Thank you.
Good evening, Mr. Cooper.
I'd like to have your address.
I'd like to send you an article that is in this month's Playboy magazine that I'm sure you would find very interesting.
It's called Founding Father Fakery, and it's saying that, quote, firearms stand next to and in force to the Constitution itself was not Wait a minute.
I never said he said that.
tear it all apart.
And they get into a lot of things about Washington.
Wait a minute.
I never said you said that.
No, I know you didn't.
Oh, who did?
I thought you did, but I'm saying...
Who did?
It said, all it says in here is, I've been trying to look it up myself.
In the December forum...
That's a favorite socialist ploy, is to claim that somebody said something that I've never heard anybody say that.
Okay.
So that so that they're saying that somebody said George Washington said that but they don't say who they say said he said it.
No, they don't.
They say that it was in his first address to the second session of the first U.S.
Congress.
Anybody can get that address because it's on record.
And you can read it and you can see for yourself whether he said it or not.
But I wouldn't take Playboy's word for anything.
Yeah, okay.
Or any other magazine for that matter.
Well, I just found it interesting because then it goes into where they give their own things where George Washington, let's see, let me read it right here.
In the address presented on January 8, 1790, he wrote that a free people ought not to be armed but disciplined, to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite.
He was anticipating the consideration of a militia bill by Congress and wanted to make sure that the law ensured the subordination of militiamen to properly constituted national authority.
Yeah, but it doesn't mean anything unless you have the actual text of what he really said to read that along with it.
Right.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
I understand that, and I've been doing some digging trying to find this, but I would like to send you this whole thing.
I'll send you a copy of this and let you read it, because there's a lot of things in there that I think you would find pretty interesting.
I did, as a matter of fact.
I don't have your address, sir.
I'm, uh... P.O.
Box 1420.
P.O.
1420.
Show Low, Arizona.
Okay, sir.
85901.
Okay.
I guess that would be something that you would be interested in reading, and, uh...
And in your way, you can tear it apart the way you do, and we can all sit back and listen to it.
Well, they might be right.
But my interest, my only interest in it would be to, if it's false or if it's misleading or if it's lying to people, would be to expose that to the sheeple out there who would never check its accuracy themselves, but would blindly believe would be to expose that to the sheeple out there who would never check its accuracy themselves,
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Hello, Bill.
Yes.
Yeah, this is Ken from New Jersey.
How you doing tonight?
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Hello, Bill.
Yes.
Yeah, this is Ken from New Jersey.
How are you doing tonight?
Good.
Yeah, I was, uh, the mic called there from Pennsylvania.
I was wondering if I could make an announcement about that Valley Forge reenactment.
Yep, make it quick.
February 18th at 12 noon.
Where at?
At Valley Forge, Valley Forge Park.
The reason I had to ask you that is because in different parts of the country they reenact these battles without being at the actual battlefield.
Oh no, no, no.
We do the whole thing, totally reenact it, camp out all weekend.
You know, those men really had it hard.
You alluded to the fact that they didn't have any shoes.
Well, if you really look into it, the gentleman ate their shoes because they didn't have any food.
Yeah, well, there's only so much I can say.
Oh, I understand.
And most Americans who've had it so good all their life don't understand what we're talking about anyway.
And that's the truth.
They can't even imagine it.
You're exactly right.
I reenact these all over the east coast at the actual sites when we do the campouts and everything like that.
It's really disheartening to hear people in the crowds when you walk by in full dress.
They're just not with it.
What size are you on?
If you're in a red coat.
Good guys, mommy.
It's really something to hear these things.
Yeah, no excuse for that.
That's real sheeple when you run into those kind of people.
Absolutely.
Matter of fact, I had friends come out and watch me at the I don't want no money.
People say why do you do these things for free?
A friend of mine was in tears when he had overheard something like that.
Who knows you and people like ourselves.
It's very disheartening to hear those things.
I work with the Boy Scouts and the Volunteer and the Girl Scouts and I teach them.
I volunteer free.
I don't want no money.
People say, "Why do you do these things for free?" "I don't want no money to do these things." But be careful.
You know what these scumbags will do.
Oh, absolutely.
If you're teaching the children the truth, they'll set you up on a child molestation charge.
Exactly.
And something has... So you just make sure you're never alone with those children.
I'm sure there are plenty of witnesses around.
Absolutely.
I'm always there with the curator anyway.
I wouldn't have it any other way because my daughter helps me and she's with me most of the time anyways.
Um, we're out there fighting the battle and we're informing people and I just want to remind everybody February 18th in the Delaware Valley area that, um, come on out.
I'm a member of the 2nd Pennsylvania Regiment of the 1st Continental and I'll be looking forward to seeing you out there.
Yeah, you know most Americans don't understand that there was a 1st Continental Army or even what it was.
And when I talk about the Second Continental Army of the Republic, they have no idea of the relationship.
And they also don't know what the militia and the Continentals and the difference between that back then was.
That's right.
And the militia were basically, when they got tired of fighting, they would go home and eat dinner with their folks.
And George Washington got all upset about this.
Well, we're going to have some of the same problems.
He didn't make the people in the militia move out of their state until later on in the war.
But what he would do is ship them into another part of the state so he just wouldn't run home to, you know, go eat at their folks.
Whenever they got tired of fighting, they would leave.
Well, we're going to have some of the same problems.
I heard a militia captain once tell me that he would not deploy his unit to another area because he didn't want to You're out of it.
You're no militia commander.
I almost rolled right then and there.
I said, you know, you're out of it.
You're out of it.
You're no militia commander.
You're a bum.
I believe I know who you're talking about.
But anyway, one of my heroes was, I sit right here where Marquis de Lafayette, and he is one of my heroes, fought his battle right here in Gloucester City.
Yeah.
And it's some really good stuff, and I've learned from you how to do the studying and to go back.
For three years now I've been listening and I mean I just had a whole new, it seems like I've been to school all over again or college or I'm turning into like a historian, local historian here.
So you go to all the universities and get the original maps written by the foreign commanders and the German commanders.
It's a real neat thing to do when someone teaches you and you can adhere to a principle not to believe anything until you can really see the real McCoy's in front of your face.
It's a neat thing.
Look, I don't want to hold you up, so you have a good night, Bill.
Thank you, and thanks for calling.
Alright, bye-bye.
520-333-4578 is the number.
520-333-4578 is the number.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Hi, Bill.
Just a minute.
Turn on the radio.
Hurry up.
There you go, Bill.
I heard your discussion a few minutes ago about Forbes and the flat tax.
Yeah.
And it's very valid.
As a matter of fact, all of the tax theories are meaningless because as long as the government can willfully confiscate your wealth, they're going to do it.
Sure, but the basic thing is and people should be standing up and stating this loud and clear at all these political meetings and you know they should be calling these bums what they are.
Bums, traitors, scumbags, criminals, crooks, liars.
I'm trying to get a movement started here in Pennsylvania to get a constitutional amendment that will limit the taxes any American citizen can pay to a fixed percentage Without a declaration of war or a declaration of crisis unanimously passed by the Congress.
Now wait a minute.
Why are you going to do that?
Because if they establish taxes within the limits of the restrictions of the Constitution and the Constitutions of the states, there's no danger of that.
The only legal taxes really are excises, imposts, and duties.
That is correct, but unfortunately what we've got now is that every little political subdivision Yeah, but you don't fall into their scam by agreeing with them and saying you can tax us but only up to this percent.
What you do is say, you cannot tax us.
It's illegal, unlawful, and constitutional.
Knock this crap off now or we're going to throw you all out on your butts.
You won't even be able to get a job as dog catcher.
You're crooks.
You're liars.
You're criminals.
You're traitors.
Well, we keep attempting that, and, uh... Well, if you get this issue of Veritas, it tells you how to do it.
Well, that's something I need to talk to you about all year, anyway.
Not me.
Call Veritas.
I'm not Veritas.
Okay.
Is Veritas still at the same place?
Yes.
Okay.
Okay?
Yeah.
Thanks, Bill.
You're welcome.
Bye.
Bye.
Don't fall into their crap, ladies and gentlemen.
If it's unlawful, illegal, unconstitutional, and wrong, don't give in to it.
I mean, if we're going to be good people, if we're going to live by the law, if we are who we say we are, and we are for what we say we're for, then we must be that heart and soul!
And a man or woman who's not willing and ready to die for their principles is already dead, in my estimation, and is no use or consequence to anyone, not even themselves.
Good evening, you're on the air.
I don't have a crystal ball.
God doesn't whisper in my ear.
couple months enjoy your program my question is talking about several applause on economy what's the best time frame for the most time that we have left I don't have a crystal ball God doesn't whisper in my ear I'm not a psychic and I don't know anything about magic except that it's the art of illusion I understand that but what would be the best in the years we would have I know I can't tell you that.
I don't know.
I just told you.
All I know is it's going to happen.
They plan to have their world government in place by the year 2000.
Does that help you?
Yes, it does.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
Folks, don't ask me how much time we've got.
It doesn't make any difference.
We're out of time.
What difference does it make?
If I tell you three years, what are you going to do?
Sit on your couch?
For another two years before you start even thinking about it?
God, don't make me angry with the bullshit calls, okay?
Good evening, you're on the air.
Yeah, sorry.
Turn off your radio.
Yes, Mr. Cooper.
Goodbye.
Don't call me with your radio on.
Don't call any, any radio broadcast with your radio on, folks.
I've said it five million times.
Every broadcaster in this country has said it five million times, and you still do it.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Hi, Bill.
Yes.
This is Dave Young in Casper, Wyoming.
Yes.
We've had a lot of trouble up here from anywhere from six to twenty-seven helicopters.
I tie in pilots in them, and we went to our local sheriffs and stuff, and we can't seem to get anything done.
Have you got any questions, or I mean, have you got any answers for us up here?
Well, contact the military, contact the United States government, contact the FAA, contact the sheriff and the state government.
If all of them say that they don't belong to them, they don't know anything about them, and they can't do anything, and they're flying over pointing guns at you, then you're being invaded.
Call out the militia and deal with them.
That's exactly what's happening, and we have talked to all those people.
Well, if they say they're not United States, if they say they're not state, They're not law enforcement.
They're not sheriff.
They're not police.
They don't belong to the National Guard.
They don't belong to the Air Force, the Army, the Navy, the Marines, or the Coast Guard.
It must be an invasion from a foreign force!
Is this happening anywhere else that you're aware of?
Happens all over the country.
Bill, I've read your books, sold your books.
I appreciate your comment.
I've been a long time getting through to you.
That's been going on here for several months and that started out with six choppers and now it's going up to Well, just tell them.
Call them and say, if somebody doesn't claim ownership of these helicopters, they're flying over, they're pointing guns at us, they're violating the law, they're flying below 500 feet, they're flying rooftop level, they're scaring the hell out of everybody.
If the United States government doesn't own them, if the Air Force doesn't own them, If the Navy doesn't own them, if the Marines doesn't own them, if the Army doesn't own them, if law enforcement doesn't own them, if the Sheriff doesn't own them, if the FAA tells us they don't know anything about them, then we must be being invaded by a foreign force, right?
Well, that's correct.
It's hard for the public to deal with.
Well, just tell those people that when you call them and ask who they belong to and what they're going to do about it.
And tell them that.
And tell them if we're being invaded by a foreign force, we have a right to defend ourselves against them.
The other thing we have asked them and demanded of them is that they reveal Presidential Directive 25 to us.
They're not going to reveal it.
It's classified.
They don't have to reveal it.
We've got a representative named Alan Simpson that's supposed to be able to... They don't have to reveal it to Congress either if it's classified.
And they haven't, right?
And they haven't.
That's right.
Are our national parks that turned into the biosphere, is that part of the PDD 25?
I have no idea.
I've never read PDD 25, have you?
No, sir.
Then how would I know?
Pretty stupid question, huh?
Well, I appreciate you.
Well, thank you for calling.
You bet, sir.
520-333-4578.
I bet you if you take that tack with these helicopters intimidating people and scaring people, somebody is going to claim ownership real quick.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Yeah, Bill.
This is Charlie down in Tucson again.
Hello, Charlie.
You've had a good program tonight.
I kind of hate to interfere with it, but last night you had a nip of the tongue and kind of let a scoundrel off the hook.
What's that?
When you were reading some of your quotes from Veritas One, you said in 1935 Theodore Roosevelt made a quote.
It would have been Franklin.
Oh I'm sorry, yeah it was Franklin.
Yeah, well I do that.
One night I was talking about Thomas Jefferson and I kept saying Benjamin Franklin.
Nobody caught it.
Nobody listening caught it.
I caught it myself a few days later listening to the tape.
I couldn't believe it.
Nobody out there caught it, and there I was, the whole broadcast, talking about Thomas Jefferson on the same subject that I talked about before.
And every time I was to say Thomas Jefferson, I said Benjamin Franklin.
We all make mistakes.
Well, sure we do, and I know it was a mistake, so I just wanted to let you know.
Well, thank you.
I appreciate it.
Okay.
And I'm glad you did.
Anytime I make a mistake, folks, I want to know about it, and I want the listening audience to know about it.
I know that.
I know you did.
So I gave you a call.
Thank you.
Okay, Bill.
Keep up the good work.
You too.
You bet.
And you keep listening to my, find my mistakes.
I'll do that.
Thank you.
Yeah, sir.
Good night.
Good night.
5-7.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Yeah, I just wanted to ask you about this from the U.S.
Statutes 35-36 definition.
It says when you use in this act the term state... Didn't you call me one night with the same stuff?
Yeah, it's just a little... Good night.
We don't repeat the same stuff on this broadcast, folks, unless I decide to do it.
And the only reason I'll decide to do it is if I get some indication that everybody was confused when we first talked about it.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Hello Bill.
Hello.
James from Texas.
Hi.
Phil, have you seen the movie Return to Oz?
Kind of a sequel, part two, the original Wizard of Oz.
I think I was opening mail while it was on the television set one day, but I'll tell you the truth, I just caught snatches of it and wasn't really paying attention.
I'll have to send you a copy because I think you'd enjoy it.
You always play, every now and then you play clips from the original Wizard of Oz.
Well, the original tells a story.
It's an esoteric movie that's really telling a story about something entirely different All the children and the people who watch it think it's going.
And the return is the same thing.
The chicken plucks a key out in the hands of Dorothy.
I just finished reading Blavatsky's Secret Doctrine and that kind of helped me out a little bit there.
And I'm enjoying the FM, the new radio I got.
Great, wonderful.
We're not offering those anymore.
Really?
Really.
It was a real good deal.
works real good well I'm going to miss the symbology out of Veritas well I will too but the we're having problems See, the guy who wrote that column is a friend who volunteered to do it, and he was making demands on us that we couldn't meet because we don't have time.
We don't have a big newspaper staff and all kinds of stuff, and I was sending him a whole bunch of stuff, and I guess he got upset.
Now he's pouting and he's not going to write the column anymore and that's okay with me.
I don't have time for that kind of childish stuff.
Right.
Enjoyed the NASA Moon to America, too.
That was a real interesting book.
Yeah, it's great.
I hope as many of you as possible get a chance to go to the meeting in New Jersey and actually meet Rene and see his presentation on the space program.
I'm in here a couple of weeks ago looking in the NASA files at some of the photographs.
Could you spot them?
Yeah.
It was just, you know, things just don't add up.
Even today you see clips on the TV.
Once somebody draws your attention to it, it's easy to spot, isn't it?
There's, you know, like when he comes down the ladder and the footprint, the footprint's there and there's no hole from the truck, from the three foot nose cone from the hander, you know.
That's right.
And just going beyond the Van Allen belts and that when you sit and really think about it.
There's just too many things that don't add up, or we haven't been told, you know, the whole story.
Yeah, very little of it adds up, to tell you the truth.
It's the biggest scam there ever was.
And the man who headed NASA during that period of time is now the great grand guru, dragon, umpety-ump, poo-poo wizard of the Council of the 33rd Degree of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry.
In the House of the Temple in Washington, D.C., just 13 blocks from the Oval Office.
Oh, no.
It's amazing.
Oh, it's hilarious.
It's hilarious.
Bill, do you remember the name of the movie you talked about here a while back?
It's the movie where they're watching TV, but when they put their glasses on, they actually see what's going on.
Yeah.
It's called They Live.
They Live.
Okay, that was it.
Because after reading...
That movie tells you the truth.
After reading Dominus Parallels and...
Yeah, the glasses are just a symbol for the ability to be able to identify them through their symbology and their language.
I've traveled through the country here.
I was out in Vegas here just before Christmas.
I went to the Luxor, and it was amazing.
And just traveling through the towns and that, just seeing all the symbology that I can start to recognize now.
Oh, you really want to see a lot of it?
Go to a cemetery!
They're full of obelisk.
You'll see so many people buried under penises, you'll wonder what in the world is going on.
I was in Chicago.
I grew up just out of Chicago.
I was there back in Thanksgiving and just driving through the streets of Chicago and seeing all the symbology that I saw as a kid.
It never dawned on me.
Now that I kind of have my glasses on and I can kind of recognize these things, It's like, man, it's everywhere.
It's amazing.
Yeah, it is.
It's everywhere.
That's what the movie is.
See, the movie is playing a joke on people.
They're watching it and they're thinking it's an invasion of extraterrestrials.
That movie has nothing to do with extraterrestrials.
It's telling the truth about those who would destroy us being intermingled amongst us.
Everybody's looking somewhere for an enemy.
The enemy's standing right next to you.
Really?
I know.
Enjoy it, Bill.
Thank you for calling.
I've got two years of you on tape and slowly using my new radio to try to help out.
Good.
Wonderful.
Take care.
Thank you.
Bye.
If you come across the tape where I was talking about Jefferson and saying, Franklin, don't play it, okay?
Good evening, you're on the air.
Yeah, Bill, this is John from Houston.
Your caller a while ago, the guy who called you from Casper, Wyoming.
Uh-huh.
He might be interested to know if he were to take a peek inside of the Scottish Rite magazine, he'll see that his buddy there, Alan Simpson, is one of the contributing editors to Scottish Rite magazine, and he is also a 33rd Degree Mason.
Which Alan Simpson is that?
The Senator from Wyoming.
Oh, yes.
Yes, okay.
Alan Simpson's been a traitor.
As a matter of fact, remember, it was a Simpson-Mazoli bill under the guise of supposedly protecting us from all these illegal immigrants that wanted to come out with a national... ID card.
...canian system.
Yeah.
That's right.
He needn't worry about which side Alan Simpson stands on.
He is definitely on the wrong side of the fence.
Yes.
And so are most, if not all, of the rest of them.
Well, I know because...
Some of them wittingly, some of them because they're just stupid.
Well, I was about to... I had gotten into the Masonic Temple briefly back in 1980, and then when I saw what was going on, I got out of it.
But before I came down, I was working at a TV station up in Sterling, Colorado, and the fellow who was the sales... You've got to hurry.
I'm out of time.
Anyway, he was a Freemason, and he informed me at the time when I told him I was going to get into the Masonic Temple that about 47 out of the 50 governors were Freemasons, and a like number of the Senators and Congressmen were also Freemasons.
That's right.
So are the hierarchy, the military structure.
Got to let you go.
Okay, Bill.
Thank you for calling.
Take care.
Good night, folks.
God bless each and every one of you.
There's no reason for you to lose your mind Cause I've seen something that's gonna change our time
If I could Amen.
Thank you.
I think you understand.
If I could, I think you understand.
There's no hurry, it's gonna come for sure.
I know there's no way.
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