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Dec. 12, 1995 - Bill Cooper
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Michael New, OKC Training Tape
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Light power of the hour is the power of the time.
Let's stand in the beautiful blue.
Let's see.
Let's stand in the beautiful blue.
You're listening to the Hour of the Time.
I'm William Cooper.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, we've been following this thing in Arkansas.
Ever since we first heard about it.
And have some good news to report to you tonight.
Thank you.
The Arkansas Constitutional Amendment election was today.
Now, we didn't know that when we heard about it on the air.
When the gentleman called in, we began checking up on it immediately.
We also have some of our people in other states following this.
Who, by the way, just did it of their own accord.
But the election was today.
And the report is that 85% of the precincts reporting, or 85% of the precincts have reported that the proposal for the Arkansas Constitutional Amendment Has been rejected by 79% of the voters.
Now don't you think that's extremely encouraging?
I do.
I think it's fantastic.
85% of the precincts that have reported report that the proposal has been rejected by 79% of the voters.
Looks like Americans are finally getting on track.
I think it's incredible.
I also have a message that was sent to me by Daniel New, Michael New's father, and I want to read it to all of you.
Remember, this is from Daniel D. New.
That's Michael New's father.
For those of you who may be just new listeners or may not know what I'm talking about, Michael New is a United States Army medic.
Who has refused to wear the United Nations uniform or be deployed under the command of the United Nations officer or United Nations command.
He's going to be court-martialed, I believe, beginning sometime this week.
The court-martial will begin, I believe it's Thursday.
He will probably lose this initial confrontation in this court-martial, and that has to be that way because the authorities have to exert their policy, which is that there's going to be a new world order, that United States troops are going to fight under United Nations command, and they're going to function as the United Nations, or what will be called the World Police Force, if you will.
So, from there it will be appealed.
It will go initially to a military court of appeals, or a military appeals tribunal is really what it is, and from there it will go to a federal court, and then from there to the United States Supreme Court, provided that every step of the way they can find legal and lawful means to effect an appeal to the higher court.
So, anyway, that's the strategy.
So, I'm going to read you verbatim now the message sent to me by Daniel New, Michael New's father.
He says, Specialist Michael New took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.
He did not take an oath to the United Nations.
To force him to serve the United Nations is both a breach of contract and a violation of the Thirteenth Amendment.
Which prohibits involuntary servitude.
Several constitutional lawyers are now working pro bono to take this case to the Supreme Court, if necessary, because they are convinced that Specialist New is right.
The government is wrong.
Michael New is not alone in the courtroom.
I also, ladies and gentlemen, am convinced that Michael New is right.
100% right.
And I continue.
The U.S.
Army has held firmly to the exact same position as specialists knew until mid-1993, when the current administration forced them to make the United Nations insignia involuntary.
This action had no basis in law.
But what officer is willing to sacrifice his career for such a puny thing as principle?
Well, I could.
Answer that, folks.
Every single officer that swore to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America and obey legal and lawful orders should have been willing to sacrifice his career for such a puny thing as Principal Natsu.
Now continue.
They have all seen men and careers destroyed for standing up, ever since General MacArthur.
The Army is violating the Army regulations governing the wearing of insignia in issuing this order, and they cannot win in court.
Not only are the insignia and headgear not authorized, they are prohibited by Army regulations.
Specialist Michael New is in line with Army regulations, and it is the brass themselves who have issued an unauthorized uniform.
Depending on the unit, 75-95% of the active duty personnel agree with Michael New, but most are afraid to say so publicly.
A notable exception is 1st Sgt.
Edward Rasser, Special Forces medic with 82nd Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, North Carolina.
Sgt.
Rasser has spoken publicly about the illegal orders to augment the battle dress uniform, the illegal orders to deploy under a foreign general, in this case from Finland, So Michael is no longer alone in the ranks.
any American to serve in a United Nations mission of any sort.
There is no basis for it in law.
Many active duty officers and enlisted men and reservists have contacted us, telling us that if he loses this case and goes to prison, they will resign their commissions, refuse to reenlist, etc.
So Michael is no longer alone in the ranks.
And Daniel knew, I have to tell you this, talk is cheap.
You can listen to these guys brag about how they're going to resign their commissions, and not reenlist or refuse to reenlist.
But you're not going to know if that's true until they really do it.
So, don't listen to that.
If they really meant what they said, they'd be standing alongside Michael New, Risking Court Marshal, for what they believe is right.
So, this is just a bunch of BS talk and don't buy into it.
Because the truth is, when it comes time to do it, most of them won't.
They'll re-enlist, and they won't resign their commissions.
A very few brave souls might.
And I continue.
The Army says the President has told them they do have the authority because he gave it to them in Presidential Decision Directive 25.
PDD 25 is the infamous document whereby President Clinton has authorized President Clinton to ignore Congress and the Constitution and deploy any troops anywhere under the United Nations.
But to make sure you and I don't complain, he has classified the document, releasing only a brief summary.
Your congressman is not even allowed to read PDD 25, yet this is the so-called authority.
And that means, ladies and gentlemen, if congressmen are not allowed to read PDD 25, then that means, number one, it's classified above their level of security clearance, which must be top secret, or compartmentalized top secret, or maybe even acute clearance.
And the President has made the determination that Congress does not have the need to know.
I continue.
Specialist news attorneys have filed for discovery, which means they have demanded to see PDD 25.
If the government won't produce it, then they can't prosecute under it.
So the government is on the horns of a dilemma here.
If they do produce it, some Americans and some Congressmen are going to have some very hard questions put to the White House.
Has the Constitution been suspended by President Clinton?
If so, we all need to know.
There are two legitimate ways of looking at this question.
Those who view it simply as a matter of obeying orders contend that New is wrong.
Those who are able to see the constitutional implications understand that all orders are subject to law, and Specialist New is on firm legal principle.
Over 60 U.S.
Representatives and Senators agree with New already, in writing, so he is not standing alone in Congress.
Those who are supporting Michael in his stand may write to him or send Christmas cards in care of his attorneys at Michael New Defense Fund.
That's Michael New Defense Fund.
P.O.
Box 1136I.
That's P.O.
Box 1136I.
Crestwood, Kentucky.
That's PO Box 1136I.
Crestwood, Kentucky. Crestwood, Kentucky. 400.
That's 4-0-0-1-4.
One more time for those of you who are slow.
And remember, you should never, ever listen to this broadcast without paper and pencil.
And sometimes a lot of paper and two pencils.
Michael New Defense Fund.
P.O.
Box.
1-1-3-6-I.
Crestwood, Kentucky.
Crestwood, Kentucky, 40014.
Now, he's not going to answer every letter, folks, but he will eventually read them all, I can guarantee you.
If he gets mail like I get, he couldn't possibly even begin to answer any of them.
Those who will agree that it's wrong but would go anyway because I need the money are reduced to mercenaries.
If the United Nations requires mercenaries to enforce it, peace through terror, which has always accompanied its illegal wars, then I encourage them to open United Nations recruiting offices in every major city.
Then those who want to be mercenaries can join and die for that glorious blue and white banner under which 114,000 too many Americans have already died.
How many of you knew that?
There will undoubtedly be plenty to join for the money, but at least then Americans won't be forced to serve against their conscience.
I can assure you that Michael Neal is not afraid of deploying to a war zone.
First of all, he's 22 years old, and therefore in his own mind, he's invincible.
And every man who's ever lived knows about that.
When you're 22, nothing can hurt you.
Second, he was looking forward To the assignment in Macedonia, until he learned about the illegal change in uniforms.
Now think about it.
Which course requires the most intestinal fortitude?
To go along with the army, and go when you think it's wrong?
Or to tell the army that they are wrong, and that you will go to prison before you will violate your oath to your country?
Those who know Michael knew, know that he is not a coward.
Those who have read his service record know he is a good soldier with an impeccable record, commended over and over for meritorious service and written up by sergeants for taking the initiative to do more than is required of him.
Personal attacks are usually employed by those who cannot figure out a way to attack principles.
Oh, and boy do I know about that!
Can't discuss the facts.
You attack the character of the man who holds the facts.
And that's beginning to happen to Michael Newman.
America, whether the current generation likes it or even knows it, was founded by Christians who wove their belief system into our system of government.
Well, I'm glad that somebody finally knows how this government was formed, by who, and that it's not a Christian government, but the Christian belief system Was woven into the government by those who served in the government and by Americans who were Christians.
And that's the truth of the matter that I've been telling you for years on this broadcast.
And apparently Daniel knew and Michael knew.
Know that also.
The concept of a government going to church on Sunday is beyond my imagination anyway.
And I have never seen the Capitol building stop to take communion.
Oh boy, the battles we fight against the ridiculous concepts that people formulate to further their agendas that don't even need all that backup is beyond my understanding.
I continue, the Constitution and all other founding documents are based upon a solid belief that all rights come from a divine creator and as such are unalienable.
They wanted to break the throttle of tyranny from a worldwide empire which refused to acknowledge their God-given rights.
They wanted to set up a nation that would protect their children and keep their freedom intact forever, avoiding entangling alliances.
The United Nations Charter was written by a collection of humanists, socialists, Darwinians, Utopians, and Marxists.
Atheists to a man.
Who all believe that rights are granted by government and therefore can be taken back by government.
They wanted to establish a one world government to replace all national governments.
And this is no conspiracy theory.
It's all through their books and speeches.
It is today a public policy of agenda of Bill and Hillary Clinton as well.
It was the conclusion of Specialist New that no one who understands the nature of these two mutually exclusive systems can possibly serve both.
One must choose which government he wants to serve and go with it.
Most soldiers have never thought about it.
But now that the topic is raised, many are having second thoughts.
Specialist Michael New chose America.
He chose the Constitution for the United States of America.
If that's a crime, make the most of it.
Real Americans don't wear United Nations blue.
Michael New was homeschooled.
And now you know why the New World Order hates homeschooling.
The weather's been over, always been your mother.
The weather's up, always been your mother.
The weather's been around.
I can't hang on the rest of the time.
The next year, this is where we go.
Cinderella, Annabella.
Have a party like that.
This is New, the radio.
Oh, love is on the end of the end.
It's on the coast, it's close to look up.
Love is everywhere tonight.
You have the right to know that you've come to a station.
You have permission.
You have the right to let it through.
You know you can't step away from it.
You can't wait to share your world with you.
You should never scream for help.
It's the song and dance of your life.
I knew my show, I've been through it.
But suppose she likes me back?
That's so good!
Come on, y'all, c'mon, together!
Thank you!
Oh, not to love to tell the world and to live.
Why do you feel like a young woman in the night?
Oh, not to love to tell the world not to love to tell the world and to live.
Why do you feel like a young woman in the night?
Listen to me carefully, because if you call and you don't want to talk about this subject, then I'm just going to hang up on you.
Now, understand that.
Don't call and say you want to talk about something else.
We're not going to.
I want to talk only to those people who have received their sets of the five tapes of the training lecture by Michelle Moore At the last Intelligence Service seminar conducted in St.
John's.
The number is 520-337-2878.
I would like, for those of you who have received your sets, and you should have received them by now, they were sent, gee, over a week and a half ago, maybe two weeks ago, by UPS.
So I want to hear from those of you who have received your five-tape set, which is approximately, I believe it's about nine hours, nine and a half hours, something like that, training lecture by our station chief in Oklahoma City, and she used the Oklahoma bombing as an example
For that training lecture on how investigations are conducted, what effect it has on your family and you, what tools you need to do the job, relationships with other people that you're working with, all of these kinds of things.
Now, if you ordered it and didn't get it, maybe you better call also.
Because you should have received it by now.
So, anybody listening who has received their five tape set of the training lecture by our Oklahoma Station Chief, Michelle Moore, I'd like to hear from you right now.
I want to know what you think of it.
I want to know if it's helped you.
We're thinking of doing a series of these types of video presentations, only not so long, and not as expensive, and more professionally produced.
So, if you have received your 5-tapes set, call now, 520-337-2878. That's 520-337-2878.
And in the meantime, I'm going to tell you about another book that we've got here that I'm going to be talking about probably in the next few days.
The phone is not ringing, so either you didn't get Your tapes, or else you're afraid to call.
I don't know which it is, but whatever it is, I need to know.
If you didn't get your tapes, we need to know that.
If you did get your tapes, I need you to call.
And while we're waiting for somebody to get up enough nerve to call, let me talk about this book.
This is, it's not an incredible book, because I've known about this for a long time and I've been telling you about it for a long time, been teaching you about it, but I believe it is an important book.
It's called Man-Made UFOs 1944-1994, 50 Years of Suppression.
It's written by Renato Vesco and David Hatcher Childress.
And it covers the development of the UFO or disk type technology in Germany during World War II right up to the present time.
It is about 420 pages long and beginning either sometime this week or next week I'm going to read you some sections of this book and we're going to offer this book for sale For $25 post-paid delivered by UPS to your door.
It's got a fantastic array of photographs and history and facts.
It's not like most of these Ufology books that you buy that make all kinds of assertions and generalities and profess to have some kind of proof, which they never have.
This is full of facts.
History.
Documentation.
Photographs.
Proof.
Quotes.
You name it.
This book has it.
And it will open your eyes to the truth of UFOs more than anything that you've ever read or seen in your entire life.
And as I said, either some night this week or beginning next week, I'm going to read you some excerpts from that book.
It's 420 pages long.
It's $25 postpaid.
If you'd like to get a jump on everybody else and order your copy now, you can make your check or money order payable to Annie, A-N-N-I-E.
Send it to the Intelligence Service, P.O.
Deo box 1420, Sholo, Arizona, 85901.
Let's make checker money order payable to Annie, A-N-N-I-E.
So Send them to the Intelligence Service, Post Office Box 1420, Show Low, spelled exactly as it sounds, Arizona, 85901.
85901.
The name of the book is Man-Made UFOs, 1944-1994, 50 Years of Suppression by Renato Vesco and David Hatcher Childress.
Let me see here.
What am I doing?
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Yes, hello, Bill.
Yes.
Yes, I had received the tapes.
I have no idea why no one else might be calling.
In fact, mine were even sent to a P.O.
box, so certainly by U.P.S.
to a home address should have been there.
Yours was sent U.P.S.
to a P.O.
box?
No, no, no.
Mine was sent to a P.O.
box, but I'm certain that U.P.S.
to a home address is much more efficient.
Oh, they should have arrived by now.
I would think so.
The tapes, so far so good.
I've only seen the first three.
One thing I do have a question about is, and it may clear it up later on, but it doesn't quite clear up the difference between CAGI and the intelligence service, or is it one and the same?
And it doesn't give instructions as to a person's involvement in it, to what extent are you involved.
Is that entirely up to some orders you receive or is that entirely up to the person and what type of things do we sign to be involved?
And I've wondered about this ever since I received the first sample that mentioned things like station chiefs and that you'll report to someone and it's a network and things like trespassers.
All of this stuff was rather confusing.
It tastes great, but none of those questions were hit home so far.
Well, that's because the lecture was not directed at the general public.
The lecture was given to members of the intelligence service and CAGI who attended the seminar.
They knew all that stuff.
That makes perfect sense then, but do you think for the sake of people like myself, in order to see not only how to investigate, but how to investigate as a CAGI member and would consider Yes, it is.
We don't promise you any benefits.
What's the difference?
What is involved?
You know, besides her being very dedicated and excited about what she does and what it boils down to all her research is, it's hard work, hard work, and more hard work is what it really boils down to.
Yes, it is.
We don't promise you any benefits.
We don't promise you anything with a membership.
What we promise you is we're going to put you to work to help save this nation, to help collect information, to disseminate to the people at large through this broadcast, through our newspaper, through private intelligence reports that go out to certain leaders across the country and to through private intelligence reports that go out to certain leaders across the country and to congressmen and judges and other people to help educate these people as to And sometimes it is hard work.
If you were to talk to the people who have been intimately involved with the investigation into the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, you would find out that They probably work just as hard on that for nothing.
And when I say nothing, I mean in the way of remuneration or reward.
Most people for all eternity will probably never even know most of their names.
Some of their names will emerge and some already have.
And usually it's their own choice.
And sometimes it depends upon their involvement and what they produce from that investigation.
Also, so they're not rewarded in that way.
They are rewarded in the knowledge and the satisfaction that they are helping to preserve liberty for all Americans.
And that they are doing a job that is just as important as any person who has ever put on a uniform to go off and fight for liberty, who have been wounded or died for liberty.
Some of our people have suffered tremendous consequences of their participation.
We are in a war.
We are engaged in a war.
If we lose this war, the implications are terrible, are tremendously...
Well, I'm at a loss for words as to how to describe it.
It's beyond your comprehension as Americans to understand the depths of the enslavement to which we will sink if we lose this war to preserve our liberties.
And make no mistake about it, all of us who worked in CAGI and in the intelligence service We have no opposition to a world government if the world government would guarantee that our individual creator-endowed rights would be protected and maintained and not destroyed.
We are not loyal to borders.
We are loyal to principles and ideals.
We are loyal to the concept of of individual liberty with responsibility.
CAGI is a Civilian Intelligence Gathering News Service, which is not, the members are not under oath.
That membership is closed at the present time because we have the number of members that we need.
The Intelligence Service is an intelligence gathering arm of the Second Continental Army of the Republic, militia.
To be a member of the Intelligence Service, you must pay $100 and you must execute an oath of allegiance to the Constitution of your state and to the Constitution for the United States of America, and you must execute that oath To obey all legal and lawful orders of the officers appointed over you.
Which in most cases will mainly come from your station chief.
You will be assigned to a station chief who will train you and give you assignments to carry out.
Research projects, intelligence operations.
You will collect information.
Sometimes you will be assigned to analyze that information or analyze other information.
But all the information will be funneled to your Station Chief who will compile it and document it and make a personal analysis and then forward that information to the Director of the Intelligence Service.
And that information then goes through another compilation, documentation, and analysis, and a check to confirm who can use it in the fight to preserve and a check to confirm who can use it in the fight to preserve the liberty, the freedoms,
and the rights of all Americans, regardless of race, religion, or ancestral origin.
Yeah, and as you mentioned, the rewards are obviously intrinsic because Effie is very excited about what she's doing and how her information is good.
And it's also real interesting how the Very methodical, and I would imagine that's not to a flaw, because when you see it, it's obvious in the research that has to be done.
It has to be done that way, so in the case of it needing to be re-researched, one can follow the same method as opposed to just being scattered, which a lot of people research that way, just kind of like a scattered mess.
But I found her very easy to respect her research and her information.
My only question would be specifically regarding the intelligence service.
If I was to sign the oath and to pass any kind of background check, how soon would I be contacted?
It depends, number one, on the promptness of your response, our ability to carry out a background check swiftly.
With some people it sometimes takes months just to perform the background check.
When the background check is finished then you receive your membership package and your paperwork and you are connected to your station chief who will then determine what your abilities and interests are and try to assign you to projects that you will be happy with.
We don't assign people projects that they won't be happy with unless it's absolutely necessary.
As long as the orders are legal and lawful, you have taken an oath that you will carry them out.
This is not a joke.
This isn't the Boy Scouts.
If you execute that oath, we fully expect you to honor and be bound by that oath.
Well, I'm certainly going to join.
I have an address change coming up in a few months.
I hope that wouldn't change anything as long as I form it.
Because I've explained before that I'm living here in New York, biggest social experiment going, and what's happening here is coming everyone's way whether they like it or not.
Everything you've discussed on that show has originated in its original problematic form right here in some program that was designed to be featured in some level of a super state.
in which everyone cares so much that we'll just take care of everything.
That's being neither here nor there.
I am dying to get in touch with people who use their heads, and that's why I'm excited about the intelligence service, why I'm excited about these tapes, because it's rare that you see that.
Well, if you really paid attention to that tape, you know that we not only use our heads, we demand that everybody associated with us use their heads.
We do not accept rumors.
We do not deal with baloney, although we do not reject any information because we're always assembling two puzzles.
And our research is impeccable.
Our people are the best that can be found.
And you can see in the quality of the leadership of our Oklahoma Station Chief that this is not the normal patriot bullshit organization that floats around this country.
We don't go out in the woods and march around with guns.
We are not a combat-oriented organization.
We are an intelligence-gathering unit, and that's what we do.
Like you said, information, not money.
That's right.
Yeah, absolutely.
Information, not money, is the power of the 90s.
Those who possess it can wield that power.
Those who are without it are powerless.
If I could, just before we go, I called once before.
I'd like to get out a P.O.
Box address so people can kind of pen-pal me because I can't speak with anyone here but my wife.
Well, I don't care if you do that, but if you do that, bear in mind that you're going to get mail from some of the idiots and nuts and wackos and racists that I get mail from.
Well, there's only some of that, but I'm hoping people like Scott from Long Island would write me.
I don't know anyone else like Scott on the line.
I don't know.
That would be certainly an easy way to... Go ahead and give it out.
Let me get some other people in here on this line.
My name is Steven.
S-E-P-H-E-N.
Last name is Rourke.
R-O-R-K-E.
Address is T-O-Box-9-9.
Neskonset, the town.
It's Neskonset.
It's N-E-S-C-O-N-S-E-T, New York, 11767.
T-O-Box-99, Neskonset.
New York 11767.
Please, no fruitcakes, no religious wackos.
You can forget that.
You'll get them no matter what you say.
Please, don't anyone tell me how to live.
Alright Bill.
Thanks for calling.
I've enjoyed the tapes.
I hope you do keep the series going.
Well, we're going to try.
Even if people don't join with us, they should know how to conduct research.
They should know how to gather information.
And we don't do anything illegal, which is why I can say all of these things over the air and why we can make these tapes available.
We are gathering information and we disseminate information.
And it's probably one of the most damaging things that we can do to the enemies of the Constitution and of liberty.
And yet there's not a thing they can say against us or about us.
Beautiful.
Thank you for calling.
Take care Bill.
The number is 520-333-4578.
I would like to hear from some more people who have received their tapes.
If there are any more people out there listening who have received their tapes, and if you have not received them, I would like to hear from you about that also.
So, if you received the five-tape set of the training lecture by Michelle, our Oklahoma Station Chief, please call in right now, 520-333-4578.
333-4578.
I think, first place, I want to know that people got them.
If you didn't get them, I want to know that also.
I want to know what you think about those tapes.
We want to see if we're on the right track with this, if it's something that you can use.
We want to do a series of these types of things to help people know what to do and how to do it and when to do it and all that kind of stuff.
Bear in mind that those five pages, that lecture, which by the way was really about twelve hours in length, and after editing out the breaks and, you know, the extraneous things that were talked about that really, you know, somebody raises their hand and talks, asks a question for ten minutes.
The answer takes ten minutes and has nothing to do with the subject of the lecture.
Those were cut out.
Some things were cut out for security purposes to protect some of the people who were there who asked some questions that might have been considered politically incorrect.
things like that.
And it was edited down to nine hours.
And it was specifically aimed at people who are already members and have been members for quite some time, and in many cases, years.
And in those lectures, you see maybe the first two, a part of the first two rows of people.
There were an awful lot of people there.
And basically the people you saw sitting in the front two rows were the youngest members who had no fear of seeing their face on camera.
So, anyway.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Hi Bill, this is Ron in San Jose.
Yes, Ron.
How are you doing?
Good.
Did you get your tapes?
Two of them, I was at the conference as well, and I can tell you that the greatest value for me from them, having worked with emergency preparedness, is the planning, getting ready, getting involved before an event happens.
You know what?
It's very difficult to hear you and understand you.
Can you make sure that your mouth is directly in front of the telephone and talk a little louder?
I'll try to do that.
Is that better?
That's much better.
Yeah, we've been at a power outage down here for about 24 hours.
I've got a little oil lantern in front of me and listening to you on my shortwave.
Well tell us about the tapes.
What do you think about them?
The tapes are really outstanding.
They're a great value.
I'm going through them and rewinding as necessary making manual notes that I want to distribute to my colleagues in this area so they can use them to be prepared again to know what to look for in advance of something happening.
That's right.
I think it's important that people know where Well that's one of the things we've always discovered.
offices and so on, newspapers, radios, television stations, that they be just really prepared in advance of anything so that in the event something happens, they can be out there doing what needs to be done to get you the information you need.
Well, that's one of the things we've always discovered.
Regardless of how often we tell our people to be ready for any emergency that may occur in their area that may have to call upon them, that we may have to call upon them to mobilize their resources to conduct an investigation immediately.
We have always found that they have never been fully and properly prepared.
And part of it's due to human nature.
That says, oh well it'll never happen to me.
It's nothing like that's ever going to happen in my town.
And Oklahoma City was one of those places where nobody in the world ever believed that anything like that would ever happen in Oklahoma City.
So those people were caught with their pants down.
And that's one of the things Michelle stressed in the lecture was that you've got to be ready because there's no such thing as it can't happen to me.
That's very true.
I work for a Fortune 200 company out here in Silicon Valley.
And we practice on a regular basis, both for bomb threats as well as the earthquakes that may be coming.
Yeah.
And you have to be ready in advance to know what to do and know who's going to do what.
You can't wait to get caught at the trouser down.
That's correct.
So I encourage anybody who hasn't gotten these tapes to get a hold of them and go over them, make personal notes, and get ready.
Is Michelle a good teacher?
She's super.
She's just a remarkable individual.
I met her at the conference.
She's very unassuming to look at her, but wow, she really knows her stuff.
She is powerful.
She is not only a good intelligence operative, she is an excellent leader and station chief, and she's also a good friend.
Absolutely.
She's just a great individual.
Well, I want to thank you for your input.
Thanks, Bill, and good luck and continued success.
Thank you.
Oh, one other thing I wanted to ask you.
If, well, you've already looked at two tapes, but from looking at those two tapes, if you were to change anything about the production of those tapes, and bear in mind that we had no plan when we made these tapes to offer them to the public whatsoever, but if you could change anything in the production of the tapes, what would it be?
I'll probably just do some more editing.
Uh huh.
Great.
I'd love to have that.
Uh huh.
Okay.
That's a good idea.
Okay.
Yeah.
Write me a letter.
Thank you bro.
Thank you.
Take care.
Great.
I'd love to have that.
I'd like to see if the condensed down in maybe four or five hours, along with the manual, would accompany the whole set.
Then I think it would be really useful.
Okay.
That's a good idea.
Okay, yeah, write me a letter.
Thank you, Bill.
Thank you.
Take care.
And thank you for calling.
520-333-4578, if you've received your tapes.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Good evening, Bill.
This is Bowman in Arkansas.
Hello.
For you tonight.
Good.
What's your topic?
Did you order the tapes?
The five tape set?
No, I have not.
Are you listening to the radio?
Well, I've got real poor reception.
Well, I'm going to have to hang up on you because I'm asking just people who received that five tape training lecture that Michelle did at our last conference to call in.
Okay.
I'll talk to you again.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
520-333-4578.
If you have received your training lecture tape set, I would like to hear from you now.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Hello, Mr. Cooper.
Hello.
My name is Patrick Perry.
I received your tapes last Friday and I watched them all almost immediately.
I watched them last Friday and last Saturday.
I got a little steno pad here and I made some notes and I really liked them.
The first thing I wrote was organization.
It kind of reminds me of a well trained athlete.
Everything has its place.
Then I made, you know, everyone's going to have to work together.
So I wrote down a list of friends, you know.
You can mobilize others with VCRs, radios, cars, satellites, fax machines.
Scanners?
Yes, there's scanners.
I noticed Michelle talked about hooking a scanner to a long play cassette recorder and that sounded like a good idea.
And she, Dave, and, uh, pardon her, I'm kind of in a hurry, but, um, they spoke of, um, going down to your local pawn shop, so you can, uh, you know, because a lot of this stuff is going to cost a lot of money, so, um, there's no reason that you have to have, you know, high fidelity on these recordings.
You know, what we're after is information, so, uh, we might want to go after, um, you know, you can buy these cheap 120-minute audio cassettes, Yeah, you don't need high fidelity, and you don't need the stereo, and you don't need all that kind of stuff, but you do need good medium that you record on.
Don't record on junk.
Yes, sir.
That's correct.
And she spoke about, I'm going to write off to Arkell in California and get quite a few blank audio and video tapes because, you know, when the time comes, you know... You'll be amazed at how quickly you run out of tapes.
That's correct.
They spoke about having a 30, you know, single lens reflex, 30mm camera.
35.
Oh, excuse me.
35, sorry about that.
And, you know, have one in the car, one that's, you know, cheaper.
As long as you don't, you know, let it get too hot or anything, I suppose.
Keep one in the camera and one on the person.
One thing I thought about was maybe making some sample affidavit forms on the computer Yeah, that's important and most people don't understand that we don't accept testimony from anyone unless they're willing to complete a written affidavit that will stand up as evidence in a court of law.
People don't understand that when we put facts in our newspaper and we put out information over the air, we're doing it from a point
of having substantial documentation behind what we use uh... and you have you don't even have any concept of what we put in our intelligence reports that go to specific leaders across the nation who need that information uh... but it's documented and it will stand up in any court of law uh... well that's correct well right now you know I'm not a member of the intelligence service although uh... you know I have a high regard for it
It's quite a commitment.
A person shouldn't just take that oath or any oath lightly.
If they're going to be doing something, they need to be for sure.
I look back in past things.
For instance, when you started Gannett, I kind of flip-flopped.
At first, I wasn't for sure whether or not I wanted to support that.
I think a person needs to get that straight before they make an action.
They need to be for sure that they're going to stand by what they're going to do before they... Yeah, you have to decide what's important, what's worth fighting for, what's worth devoting your time and effort to, what's worth going to jail for, what's worth losing your reputation and your fortune for.
For instance, the last line on the oath that must be executed by all members of the Intelligence Service is that they pledge their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.
And you have to sit down and decide, what is my sacred honor?
Yes, sir.
That's correct.
Continuing right along this list I made, I thought about, you know, generally when you want to get information from the person, you have to give them your telephone number and address.
I thought the person might want to get some business cards made so you won't have to be writing that down a million times.
I thought about having the capability to record your automobile audio off the AM and FM.
Excellent idea.
Most radios have line outs in the back and anyone with a little confidence can hook that to a recorder.
I thought about anticipating areas of action.
Kind of, you know, people who do research, you know, into criminal activities try to get into the mind of the criminal.
That's right.
You know, like how you and others, you know, had an edge.
You looked at what happened in New York and you had an idea of how they were going to play out this Oklahoma City bombing.
That's right.
Also, I wanted to ask you, did you notice on the tape during the part where we were running the news clips from the local media in Oklahoma City, which nobody else across the country ever saw?
Yes, sir.
Did you notice that one FBI agent, Bob Bricks, when he said that many, many witnesses downtown reported hearing two blasts?
And they all deny any of that.
They deny that there were any witnesses, but he said it.
That's another point down on my list here.
I hadn't really considered this, but I understand now what you're saying about your local television stations, your local radio stations.
Yeah, because you didn't see any of that on the national news, did you?
That's going to be more accurate than CNN.
Eventually, the big lie and what people know is the truth is going to converge into what is going to be indistinguishable.
That's from fiction.
Eventually, the story down the line is going to merge.
Even the first reports on the local news in Oklahoma City reported two explosions.
That's correct.
I've seen your Xerox copy from the Omniplex.
between that and Veritas, which I'd recommend to anyone.
And I recommend that to English teachers also.
So any of those English teachers that might be listening, or any other teachers, I'd recommend that to their students.
Go ahead and develop your film fast.
I made that comment because, you know, I guess, I don't remember if it was Dave that took the picture, Michelle.
No, we had a CADE photographer who did that.
Okay.
And of course you want to go ahead and get that done because I remember once when I didn't get the leader correctly into the take up reel and it took me a couple of rolls before I realized I was doing that wrong.
Well there's another thing you need to do too.
You need to try to be able to process your own film or know someone who will process it for you because a lot of film I didn't think about it.
That's a good idea.
I've known some local film developers so I'll have to get in touch with them.
It's a good idea.
I know some local film developers, so I'll have to get in touch with them.
It's a good idea.
Okay, thanks for calling.
I want to try to get one more person in here before we sign off.
Thank you, sir.
One more thing.
If you could make any changes in the production, what would it be?
Well, I've only watched it once, and the only thing I really saw, I just kind of looked at the cinematography, the way I filmed it, I thought maybe you could, if you got some halogen lighting and bounced it off a sheet, you could take out some of that green maybe from the fluorescent light fixtures.
Yeah, we just had one camera placed in one spot and the light fixtures were fluorescent.
And maybe a little bit closer, but that's just nitpicking.
Right now, I'll probably write you a letter There might be a couple of things, but... Okay, I would appreciate that.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Thank you for calling.
520-333-4578.
If you received your 5K set of the lecture, training lecture by the Oklahoma City Station Chief, or I should say the Oklahoma Homeless Station Chief.
We don't have an Oklahoma City Station Chief.
By the way, the Oklahoma Station Chief really is the Station Chief for four states, ladies and gentlemen.
Four states, not just Oklahoma.
So besides conducting the investigation of the Oklahoma City bombing, she was also managing the intelligence operations in three other states simultaneously.
Good evening, you're on the air.
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Is this the Cooper Show?
Okay, are you screening for him?
No, we don't screen on this show.
Oh, okay.
Hello?
Yeah, is he still taking calls?
You're on the air.
I'm on the air?
Yes.
Okay, Cooper convinced me to subscribe to the Euro-American Quarterly and the tail end of the Euro-American Alliance.
Oh, it's another one of those racist bullshit bigots again.
One of these nights we're going to do a complete show and dedicate it to these fools who think that somebody is forcing them to breed with somebody that they don't want to breed with.
They are suffering without any doubt, folks, of some kind of a sexual dysfunction.
And they are the most dangerous people that I can imagine in this nation today, or in the world today.
Good evening, you're on the air.
This is NCI with a collect call from... Sorry NCI, we don't take collect calls.
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Thank you.
The angels sing.
The sweetest song I ever heard.
You sing.
And the angels sing.
The angels sing.
Oh, am I breathing you deep into every word.
I'm so sorry.
Oh, suddenly I feel change.
Long winter nights with the cameras ringing.
Dreaming of your dreams that I know.
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