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Nov. 29, 1994 - Bill Cooper
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BATF Briefing on the Militia
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The End You're listening to the Hour of the Con.
You're listening to the Hour of the Time.
I'm William Cooper.
Tonight, ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to read you a special briefing paper printed by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms and sent to local police departments across the nation this month, November 19...
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms is authorized by law to levy and collect taxes on alcohol, tobacco and firearms products.
They have no other authority and do not have police powers.
What powers they take, they take under the color of law.
They work for the Department of the Treasury.
The Department of the Treasury, ladies and gentlemen, is not, I repeat, not the United States Treasury or the Treasury of the United States of America.
It is a department created artificially under treaty—the treaty is known as the Treaty of Bretton Woods—and the Department of the Treasury falls under the authority of a foreign power, the International Monetary Fund, operating under the United Nations.
My agreement in this treaty, the Secretary of the Treasury, Lloyd Benson, cannot accept any remuneration, that is, pay or money, from the United States of America, but instead is paid by the International Monetary Fund.
In other words, Lloyd Benson and everyone who works for the Department of the Treasury and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms are agents of a foreign power operating in this country illegally.
They are not registered as agents of a foreign power, and they are committing treason.
You saw what they did in Waco.
Even if the State Department had received a communication from a foreign source, which by the way turned out to be the Anti-Defamation League in Australia, but even if they had received a communication from a foreign source That everyone in the church known as the Branch Davidian were going to commit suicide, the BATF had no authority whatsoever to go in and stop them.
And that was the first thing they told us.
The second story was that David Koresh was having sexual intercourse with all of the women in the church.
The third story was that they were going to march on the city of Waco and attack them with guns.
The next story was that the children were being abused, both physically and sexually.
All of these things, ladies and gentlemen, were lies.
And the survivors, the ones who were not murdered in Waco, Texas, were tried, and most of them are sitting in jail, not because they had illegal firearms, not because they were going to march on the city of Waco, not because they abused their children, or that they had promiscuous sex.
in their church.
Not even because they were going to all commit mass suicide.
Nope.
They're in there because a kangaroo court found them guilty of killing federal agents.
Never mind that they were attacked first Never mind that helicopters were shooting down at them through the roof.
Never mind that no one attempted to go to the door and knock on the door and serve a warrant.
Never mind that they piled out of their cattle cart, firing fusillades of bullets at this church.
No?
And these agents of a foreign power, committing treason on our soil, who have murdered approximately 100 people in a little town called Waco, Texas, which will be that city's shame forever.
Never mind all of that.
Now they are attacking the legal and lawful militia formed by tradition, formed under the Constitution, under Title X of the United States Code, and virtually almost every Constitution or state law of all the states of this nation, with the exception of a very few.
And in those states, they can form under Title X of the United States Code, and no one can say or do anything about it.
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, ladies and gentlemen, are made up of the philosophers of fire.
They are traitors who are propelling this nation closer to a one-world government.
Their goal is to totally, completely disarm the American people.
As long as I'm alive, that will not happen.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is closer to what they really are, but this is being very kind.
Very kind.
I know a fella who lives down the block His elevators don't go quite to the top.
Works out at the Megamall where everybody shops.
He's the Renegade we all call Supercop.
Supercop.
He's got his eyes on you.
Trooper Cop, Trooper Cop.
You better watch out what you do.
Trooper Cop, Trooper Cop.
Don't you step out of line.
Cause he's here to take a bite out of shoppin' mall crime.
Yeah, 10-4.
She's got a little problem in the parking lot, eh?
10-4, Roger 9.
Naw, man.
Look at that fella parkin' that handicap thing.
He don't have a sticker on his car anyway.
So I started runnin'.
So I shot him in the toe right here.
Hey, you had your cap now, boy!
You don't have to go!
Hey, you've been hoppin' around there for a minute like you didn't have to wear a sticker.
What's wrong with you?
He'll catch only ten and keep one bullet in his tongue.
He'll saunter down the sidewalk, make the sparks flash up for fun.
All the little kids marvel and the teenagers run.
He won't see no crime when the supercop is done.
Supercop!
Supercop!
Yeah, he's always on guard.
Supercop!
Super top, this is me, I'm coming down hard.
Super top, super top, law enforcement is in my deep side.
I'm all to grab a picture of a born and fight.
I can't see it for you.
Yeah, I'm in the grocery store, gotta know.
No, I don't need no backup.
Look at that woman and that is where to catch out like.
Ten items in her bank.
She knows she's gonna be loud tonight.
Hey, ma'am, guess I'm just gonna have to run you in all these little crumb grabbers' damn pants.
Now, you can drink that bottle of corn all there and get your count back.
Now, now, just a little more now.
Come on, now, don't be afraid to let them know you're legal.
Got a three-to-three P.N.C. Daddy had a straight and slack and white.
Watch him close and nobody knows where he got that black and holy flag.
I can't pull back in the party, man.
Yeah, got a little 11-22.
These crud don't seem to understand they're playing with Americans.
who believe in Liberty, who believe in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
Here, ladies and gentlemen, is their report, verbatim.
You will find some of it is true, unfortunately, but only true for a very small percentage of individual militia members, and no more reflects upon the militia of the several states than a racist who attends the Lutheran Church means that the Lutheran Church is a racist organization.
This report is perverted.
Some of it, as I said, is true.
Some is outright, blatant, barefaced lies.
Some is a result of very, very poor intelligence and even worse analysis.
But you be the judge, as I read it from beginning to end, verbatim.
Briefing Paper, Intelligence Division, October 26, 1994 Subject to provide an overview of the Militia Movement operating throughout the United States.
Background The Militia Movement is a grassroots effort that is similar to the tax protest and anti-government campaigns of the 1970s and 1980s.
During the past six months, this movement has swept across the country.
A catalyst of the movement was the formation of the Militia of Montana, also known as MOM, organized after the standoff with Randy Weaver in Bonners Ferry, Idaho.
The Branch Davidian siege in Waco also fueled the spread of the movement.
Militia organizers cite these incidents, as well as the passage of the Brady Bill and the Crime Control Bill, as the basis for establishing militias, the last line of defense against federal law enforcement.
To date, militias have been identified in twenty states.
These militias base their legitimacy on the Second Amendment to the Constitution as cited by them.
A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Members of militias are extremely paramilitary, anti-ATF, and literal interpreters of the Constitution.
They subscribe to the belief that the United States, its elected officials, the judiciary, and all segments of the federal government have gotten away from the Constitution, and this belief is driving this country toward the New World Order.
The New World Order is a battle cry for the militias, and generally defined as a foreign power known as the United Nations, which is actually an oligarchy of the world's super-rich, who have no allegiance to any one nation, and who control the United Nations from behind the scenes.
They view the United States as a pawn of the New World Order and law enforcement authorities are its agents.
It should be noted that there are militias that are sanctioned by a state to assist during times of civil defense.
These are not the type of militias addressed in this document.
The militias included embrace the conspiracy theorists of the New World Order and are acquiring and training with firearms in order to protect themselves from police.
These militias can be defined as follows.
Militias focus on government as the enemy of the people and expound a conspiracy theory attributed to certain shadow organizations that are planning the overthrow of democratic America and replace it with the new world order.
Major promoters of the militia movement.
The National Unorganized Militia.
Linda Thompson, leader of the unorganized militia, is considered a major spokesperson advocating the formation of militias and proponents of the movement's conspiracy theories.
The Unorganized Militia, also known as the American Justice Federation, was established in early 1993 during the Waco siege.
Following the Waco incident, Thompson produced and disseminated nationwide a video presentation titled, Waco, the Big Lie.
The video argues that there has been a government conspiracy to cover up the incidents in Waco.
During the summer, Thompson was arrested for obstructing traffic and possessing firearms during President Clinton's health reform team's arrival in Indianapolis, Indiana.
She was also identified conducting firearms training in Pike County, Ohio.
In April 1994, Thompson sent an ultimatum to members of Congress and called for an armed march on Washington, D.C., on September 19, 1994, to arrest members of Congress.
She later canceled this march due to a CIA conspiracy plot against her.
It is believed that Thompson lost credibility within the militia movement when she canceled the march.
Militia of Montana.
Mom.
The Militia of Montana is a highly organized group that promotes and supports the formation of county militias in Montana as well as nationally.
The original organizers of MOM are John David and Randy Trockman.
The Trockmans are known to have ties with the Aryan Nation Church in Hayden Lake, Idaho.
Additionally, John Trockman was co-chairperson of a support group for Randy Weaver.
This support group later became the core of the present-day MOM.
MOM has connections to Bo Gritz, former Populist Party presidential candidate, former Phoenix police officer and leader of the Police Against the New World Order, and Mark Kornke, a militia advocate from Michigan and one of the leading spokespersons for the movement nationwide.
Mom's association with these various radical right-wing factions portrays the organization closer to those expounding white separatism and racial hatred than as mainstream patriots.
Police Against the New World Order Former Phoenix Police Officer Jack McClam is the leader of this organization.
McClam, who publishes Operation Vampire 2000, and aid in a bet is heavily involved in the right wing extremist movement.
Vampire killer 2000 suggests that US law enforcement agencies are unknowingly and unwillingly involved with the United States government in establishing the new world order.
This group actively recruits law enforcement personnel.
McClam has traveled to other states and gives speeches before patriot audiences.
It is strongly believed that Linda Thompson met with members of Pat Lowe before canceling her armed march on Washington, D.C.
McClam is extremely close to Bo Gritz and pays tribute to him in his publications.
McClam accompanied Gritz to Ruby Ridge during the Randy Weaver standoff.
During his 1992 presidential bid as a Populist Party candidate, Gritz encouraged his supporters to form militias.
Gritz has been conducting SPIKE, specially prepared individuals for key events training, which has been characterized as paramilitary, and has allegedly included weapons training.
Gritz has purchased 200 acres of land in central Idaho.
He is selling lots to like-minded people.
McClam was to be a speaker during an Americans Against Gun Control banquet in Sioux Falls, South Dakota.
Americans Against Gun Control was an organization first identified by ATF at the 1994 annual Sturgis Motorcycle Classic in Sturgis, South Dakota.
The group had a booth where they handed out anti-ATF literature.
One article related to a scheduled ATF explosive certification course in Rapid City, South Dakota in August 1994.
The article called for the protest and disruption of the meeting.
Mark Kornke, Kornke is a major spokesperson for the militia cause.
Considered an extremely professional presenter, he has spoken all across the United States.
He sells his video, America in Pearl, at his speaking engagements and through numerous far-right periodicals.
He is associated with most major militia figures, including Linda Thompson.
Kornke, commonly referred to as Mark from Michigan, was the individual who spoke on behalf of the three militia members who were arrested this summer in Michigan.
State Listing of Militias The following is a list of militias known to ATF by state.
Not all of the militias listed have been identified as having members who are in violation of laws that fall within ATF's jurisdiction purview.
This list identifies locations of militias whose philosophy, if adhered to, could lead to violation of federal laws.
Alabama Unorganized Militia Affiliate Law Enforcement has had contact with one individual believed to be an affiliate of the Unorganized Militia.
The individual had expressed the same views as the Unorganized Militia.
The Sovereign Citizens Movement, located in Tucson, Arizona, is a constitutionalist organization promoting separation from the federal government and the formation of independent townships and independent militia.
Approximately 25 people attended a September meeting.
Arkansas, unorganized militia affiliate.
Two individuals expressed interest in attending the canceled armed march on Washington, D.C.
They were allegedly in possession of a fully automatic weapon.
California.
A large meeting of GOAL, G-O-A-L, was held in the Bakersfield, California, area during which Mark Kornke was the guest speaker.
Colorado.
Guardians of American Liberty.
GOAL.
GOAL is an organization based in Boulder, Colorado, which incorporates many diverse radical right ideals and places them under one umbrella organization.
These committees include F.E.D.
and I.R.S., Legislative Research, Bill and Laws, State Monitoring, Federal Monitoring, Legal, Political, Prisoner, Public Servants, Communications and Public Relations, Self-Reliance and Family Education, Sovereignty and Freedom, Militia and Spiritual.
G.O.A.L.
has been identified in Colorado, California and Ohio.
An application for G.O.A.L.
was found on two members of the American Patriots who were arrested in Las Vegas, for federal firearms and explosive violations.
Florida, American Citizens Alliance.
During the purchase of 50 magazine clips from an FFL in Maitland, Florida, the suspect made statements concerning the militia to a detective with the police department.
Among other statements, he said there was a plan in place to kill federal judges, congressmen, and agents.
He also advised that he had 60 Ruger rifles An inquiry into the suspect's background revealed that he is a convicted felon.
He was arrested by ATF on October 15, 1994.
At the time of his arrest, he was in possession of a Ruger rifle with a silencer.
The suspect has five associates, also members of the American Citizen Alliance, who are defendants in federal cases as a result of their role in placing unlawful liens against the properties of federal district court judges.
Thank you.
Florida State Militia, 2nd Regiment The 2nd Regiment of the Florida State Militia is located in Fort Pierce, Florida.
A spokesman for the group stated that their membership is made up of the American Populist Party and the American Patriots.
They believe in the Constitution and states' rights.
They oppose the federal government's move to a new world order and a central police force.
He described the membership as Boy Scouts with guns.
Information received indicates members' interest in making nitroglycerin.
They may also be in possession of machine guns.
During one meeting, 250 people attended to listen to David Thibodeau, a Branch Davidian survivor, speak about the Waco incident.
The group claims to have 250,000 members statewide.
Florida State Militia recruitment posters have surfaced depicting a hooded BATF SRT member with the caption, quote, Never Surrender Your Firearms, end quote.
This same picture can be seen in other militia's literature.
Georgia, 111th North Georgia Militia.
The 111th North Georgia Militia states that its area of operation is in the Georgia Mountains near the Tennessee border.
This militia has allegedly buried caches of firearms, explosives, and survival supplies in anticipation of their conspiracy beliefs of a United Nations takeover of the U.S.
This group is associated with the Church of the Avenger and MOM, Idaho, United States Militia Association.
According to media accounts, Sam Sherwood, the director of the United States Militia Association, based in southeast Idaho, speaks to groups concerning circumventing the crime bill by forming their own local militia units.
Sherwood sells a detailed guide on organizing militias, which also include copies of laws to present to state legislators and county commissioners to persuade them to sanction local militias.
He has allegedly recruited 500 members in ten chapters in Idaho.
While Sherwood claims that the majority of Idaho sheriffs back his campaign, Greg Moffett, sheriff of Madison County and president of the Tri-County Sheriffs Association, was quoted in the Salt Lake Tribune, quote, Their intent is to amass weapons, including automatic weapons, and go against the federal government, end quote.
Indiana, unorganized militia.
Indianapolis is the home base for the unorganized militia.
Michigan, Northern Michigan Militia.
Since March 1994, the ATF Detroit Field Division has noted the escalation of the militia movement in Michigan from a theoretical group of individuals who advocate returning to the Constitution to a full-blown paramilitary organization which is growing with unprecedented speed.
Militias have been identified in 66 of Michigan's 85 counties.
The formation of militias in Michigan is believed to have been spearheaded by the Northern Michigan Militia 1st Brigade, headed by Norman Olson, a former career Air Force officer, minister, and current federal firearms licensee.
The militias are considered to be separate and distinct from each other, yet Olson is the self-appointed liaison among the various militias in Michigan.
It should be noted that Olson is selling large quantities of firearms through his business and may be selling them to militia members.
According to the Detroit Field Division, the following groups have been found to be related in some manner to the various militias in Michigan.
The National Unorganized Militia, We the People, Gun Owners of Macomb County, Gun Owners of Michigan, Justice Pro Se, Committee to Restore the Constitution, Citizens for Justice, Fully Informed Jury Association, and the American Freedom Network.
Missouri.
Continental Militia.
The Continental Militia is based at an undisclosed location in Crawford County, Missouri, where they are rumored to have drug connections and buried munitions.
One member has sent threatening letters to local law enforcement.
Members declare that they are not citizens of the United States, but rather citizens of the state of Missouri.
Therefore, they claim they are not subject to the laws of the United States.
Other Missouri Militias Since June 1994, law enforcement authorities have determined that militias have been formed in Greene, Dade, Barton, Cedar, and Franklin counties.
Copies of Mark Kornke's tape have been circulating among these militias.
Montana Mom.
Montana is the home base for Mom.
Nevada.
The Nevada Volunteers.
A member of this group has alleged ties to the Aryan Nations, skinheads, and is a supporter of the United States Special Forces National Militia.
Members of this group are suspected of federal firearms violations and may have connections with militias in other states.
New Mexico.
No, protested at the IACP conference.
That's the International Association of Chiefs of Police.
New York.
During October 1994, an ATF defendant of Bayshore, New York was convicted of two counts of possessing a machine gun.
One count of engaging in the business of unlicensed manufacturing of firearms, and two counts of making a machine gun lacking a serial number.
The defendant, who is described as a survivalist and a tax protester, belongs to a group called the Naked Truths.
During the execution of a search warrant, a letter was found which indicated the defendant intended to initiate a militia and recruit persons to assist him in the manufacturing of firearms.
Unorganized Militia Affiliate During July 1994, an individual appeared on a Rochester public access television network recruiting volunteers.
To participate in the Armed March on Washington, D.C.
North Carolina.
Unconfirmed information disclosed the possible existence of an armed uniformed militia that is stockpiling weapons for the purpose of future resistance against the federal government.
Ohio.
The Ohio Unorganized Militia.
The Ohio Unorganized Militia has strong ties with Linda Thompson and her national movement.
In July 1994, Thompson was observed training with the Pike County Unit of the Ohio Unorganized Militia.
The militia movement in Ohio recently received media attention when James Johnson, a black male, stated that he is the coordinator for the Ohio militias in fifty of Ohio's eighty-eight counties.
Johnson stated that the militia members are stockpiling weapons because they feel that armed conflict is inevitable.
In the United States, Johnson further predicted that the conflict would occur before the summer of 1995.
Remember folks, James Johnson is black.
A chapter of the Guardians of American Liberties is also in Ohio.
Tri-State Militia.
Not much is known about this militia other than the fact that a unit may be located near Sioux Falls, South Dakota.
This group may be connected to We The People.
Mark Kornke has also spoken to a Sioux Falls citizen's group along with a representative of We The People.
Texas Concerned Americans.
This group was first identified at gun shows in Central Texas.
They believe that it is their responsibility to acquire Firearms to defend themselves against police.
They do not appear to have any financial backing and lack organization.
Since an influential leader has not emerged, it is questionable whether the organization will flourish.
Wisconsin, the Free Militia.
Matthew Trehuela, leader of the anti-abortion group Missionaries to the Preborn, sponsored a rally in October 1993 in which Linda Thompson was the featured speaker.
2,500 people attended.
Trawala advocates the forming of church-based militias.
Trawala advocates the forming of church-based militias.
His elevator don't go quite to the top.
Works out at the Mega Mall where everybody shops.
He's a rent-a-guard we all call Super Cop.
Super Cop, Super Cop.
He's writing signs on you.
Group of cops, get the cops.
You better watch out what you do.
Group of cops, get the cops.
Don't get yourself out of mind.
Cause he's here to take a bite out of shopping mall crime.
Yeah, 10-4, got a little problem in the parking lot here.
10-4, Roger, now.
Now I'll have a look at that cellar park in that handicap site.
He don't have a sticker on his car in any place.
He saw me comin', started runnin', so I shot him in the toe.
Oh yeah.
Hey, you handicapped cowboy!
You don't have to go!
Hey, you keep honkin' around there for a minute, I'll give you a temporary fix!
What's wrong with you?
I was a little kid marveled and a teenager run There ain't no crime when the supercop is there.
Supercop.
Supercop.
Say he's always on guard.
Supercop.
Supercop.
He's coming down hard.
Supercop.
Supercop.
Law enforcement everybody sign an autographed picture of him.
Barney Fyfe.
Yeah, I'm exhausted, so I gotta go.
No, I don't need nobody.
Look at that woman and that express checkout line.
Ten out of a hundred banks.
You know she's only allowed nine.
Hey, ma'am, guess I'm just gonna have to run you and all these little crumb grabbers downtown.
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If you belong to one of the militias that we just talked about, give us a call and tell us the truth.
Was it true what they said about you?
The number is 1-602-337-2524.
If you belong to one of the militias that we just talked about, give us a call and tell us the truth.
Was it true what they said about you?
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We're going to take your calls in just a second.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Oh, let's get you even more fired up.
Good.
The other day I was listening to, of all things, Radio Liberty or some nonsense from Costa Rica or someplace in the middle of Central America.
And every group that you mentioned, the leadership people, by name, were mentioned on this tape that I made.
Hmm.
That's very interesting.
It parallels exactly what the ATF documentation that you just read just said.
Well, obviously that this is a concerted propaganda effort and that this report is going all over the place.
You'll hear the socialists, the liars, the communists, the Whatever you want to call them, parroting this stuff, because they don't do their own research.
They don't question anything.
If it comes from the ATF, it must be true.
Is that correct?
But I'm going to make you proud of yourself, though.
Go for it.
You were named as the key kook.
As the key kook?
You are the key kook.
This guy said if I was going to write a book about any key kook, he would be the one.
Oh, I know what radio show you're talking about.
That is the propaganda arm for the United Nations from Central America.
And they are out of Nicaragua, I believe.
Or Costa Rica.
No, it's Costa Rica.
Yeah, Costa Rica.
That's correct.
Yeah.
I just figured I'd clue you into that, but every one of those persons that were named as leadership-type people were named in that person's little radio program.
I thought that was rather interesting.
Not one was listened, by the way.
Every one of them was mentioned.
Well, that just shows you that they are a voice of international socialism.
It sure seems so.
Well, you have a good night, and we'll see what everybody else has to say.
You too.
Bye-bye.
Well, looks like, folks, like the voice of international socialism.
Radio Costa Rica is down there propagating the propaganda, but it won't fly, because everybody in the world who listens to shortwave radio knows the only place they get the truth is from the hour of the time, not from the little parrot propaganda socialist little poopy-diapered kids down in Costa Rica.
Okay, folks, who's next?
602-337-2524.
I'd like to hear from the militia that I just named.
Somebody from those militia units.
Call.
Tell us what's true and what's not true.
And don't try to bullshit me, because I know what's true and what's not true, but I want the radio audience to hear.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Oh, hi.
Actually, I apologize.
I won't take up any of your time.
I just wanted to know how to get a copy of what you just read.
I'm not from the radio show, but I'm thinking about joining here in Michigan.
Stay tuned, and I'll tell you later in the broadcast.
6-0-2-3-3-7-2-5-2-4.
Don't call me to ask stupid questions, folks.
You're wasting your time.
We have one hour.
We don't have any more than that.
6-0-2-3-3-7-2-5-2-4.
I'd like to hear from some people from those militias.
I don't care which militias, but some of the militias I read off, and you'd better have the guts to stand up and tell the truth about this to the American people.
There are a lot of people listening, a lot of people around the world listening.
Yeah, I think I have the guts to talk about what's going on with these militias, but first I'd like to say something very important to you, and especially to your listeners.
Beware.
Beware of the big, green dragon that sits on your doorstep.
He eats little boys.
Well, you better run and hide, because you're the only little boy we know around here, and while you're at it, get that dragon to change her diaper, because it's dragging her on the floor, and it stinks.
I mean, it really stinks.
602-337-2524.
You see that, folks?
These little twit socialists with their poopy diapers who are afraid of their shadow never, ever deal with facts.
They can't.
They don't have any facts.
They don't have any guts.
All they do is what you just heard.
That's all they know how to do.
Slander and lie and make personal attacks and talk about green dragons while their little poopy diapers are dragging on the floor.
I can just see him out there all puffed up, red, mad as hell.
Ain't got no place to vent his anger.
He'll probably break a window tonight.
Too bad.
His mommy will spank his little butt.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Hello, Mr. Cooper.
Hello.
Stan calling from Marinette.
Are you a member of the militia?
Yes, I am.
Okay.
This is the Michigan one.
Okay.
Tell us about it.
From what I gather, everybody that I've talked to so far, Norm Olson and Ken Adams, have been very helpful providing information.
Very good people, very friendly, and don't see any racists.
They pride themselves, and that's one of the planks of their militia.
No racism, no religion, denominational religion, and also no political ties.
That's kind of what keeps them out of trouble, and that's what they're founded on.
Well, they're just regular, everyday Americans who believe in the Constitution.
Is that correct?
That's correct.
Hopefully I'm one of them.
Are they gun-toting, right-wing, anti-Semitic, racist terrorists?
Some are gun-toting, but they're legal guns.
And right-wing, well, it depends on what you call right-wing.
I consider myself right-wing.
I'm definitely not leftist.
As far as the anti-Semitic, no, I have nothing against the Jewish race or any other race besides... Yeah, we're just a bunch of common Americans.
Very good.
Thank you for calling.
My pleasure, sir.
God bless.
You too.
6-0-2-3-3-7-2-5-2-4.
Let's hear from some other militia members.
Let's hear, talk about this.
Did they tell the truth about you or did they tell a lie?
I know.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Good evening.
I'm Brian from Maine.
I'm proud to see that we've got that many militias out there.
I wish we had one in Maine.
All we've got are little cells.
Well, that's one reason I read the report, and they're being very conservative about what they know, and a lot of their intelligence is absolutely 100% wrong.
And you notice they tried to pin the militia on a church that had Linda Thompson come and talk to 2,500 people.
It had nothing to do with the militia.
Yeah.
I'd like to get one started in Maine, and we are working on it, but for some reason it's very slow.
All the militias out there, I'm proud of you.
That's one reason I did it, to let everybody out there know that there are a lot more of us than anybody thinks.
Oh yeah, they reported 10,000 on the news the other day, on national news, and then I just left.
It was... Tomorrow night on NBC News.
Tomorrow night on NBC News, they will feature a story on the militia.
Good.
Thank you very much.
Thank you for calling.
Bye bye.
By the way, if any more of you little poopy diapers socialists want to call, I'll let you talk, because I love it when the whole world gets to hear what you're really all about and how empty your little airheads really are.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Good evening, sir.
It's hard to talk to you.
Thank you.
Calling from Nevada.
A member of Nevada Volunteers.
And no, I don't even know any Aryan brothers.
Most of us don't.
I don't either, to tell you the truth.
You're a constitutional outfit.
In fact, I'm one of the senior members and I live an alternate lifestyle.
Do you carry a machine gun?
No.
It's important to hear one to tell you the truth.
Well, there's better reasons than that not to carry one.
You waste ammunition.
If every one of us can learn to aim, take our time, and shoot straight and hit exactly what we're aiming for, we don't need machine guns and the war will be over real quick.
That sounds like good gun control.
It's the only kind I like.
Good pleasure talking to you, Jeff.
Thank you for calling.
Well, we've heard from Michigan, we've heard from Maine, we've heard from the Nevada Volunteers.
602-337-2524.
602-337-2524.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Hello, Bill.
Hello.
Yeah, this is Johnny.
I'm calling from Texas.
Hello, Johnny.
I'm a member of the, in fact, I'm a lieutenant in the Texas Constitutional Militia here in Texas.
I'm sorry we didn't get the write-up that we probably deserve, but let them think what they want.
Go ahead.
Tell us about your militia.
I, in fact, I was in a meeting this evening.
We have, I'm calling from Houston, Texas.
We have five surrounding counties and I attended a meeting just this evening where we're recruiting members from five counties.
So we've got five groups, five counties that are represented right here in Houston.
This is spreading across America like a wildfire.
It is wildfire here in Houston.
We've got a lot of people really excited about it.
We operate under three principles that really does well.
The sheriffs like it.
It's legal, legality, legitimacy, and now we're going after the third one which is Yes, we must be visible.
A lot of people think I'm crazy when I first started telling you that you must be visible, you must drill in public, you must do all of these things because that's what makes a part of the legality of it.
It also lets the enemy know that we're not a pushover.
We're not going to fall down and play dead for them.
No, sir, and the more they know that, the better in a position we're going to be, and the more volunteers we're going to be pulling over to our side.
That's right.
Their little ATF briefing report isn't going to scare one single red-blooded American soul in this country.
We have right now, that I know of, roughly 50 units here in Texas.
Of course, we're a pretty large state.
We probably have more than that.
Well, don't believe that they believe what they wrote.
You see, what they wrote is also a propaganda function.
right along with you, Bill.
I would appreciate they continue to believe that. - Well, don't believe that they believe what they wrote.
You see, what they wrote is also a propaganda function.
It makes people think that the militia is just a little group of weirdos that are racist and terrorist and anti-Semitic.
They don't want people to really know how extensive and how large the numbers really are.
They just barely even talked about Arizona and the organization that they mentioned is not even a part of the militia.
Bill, I would like to add one thought, one comment here.
My commander and I had a meeting, a rally Sunday, gave the opening prayer as a non-denominational.
Number one, he is Jewish, and we also had the same prayer that he wrote in Hebrew.
You hear that, folks?
A Jewish patriot leading a militia unit.
So much for anti-Semitic, Mr. A.D.L.
Traitors, Spy Agents of a Foreign Government, Mr. A.T.F.
B.A.T.F.
Super Cop Agent of a Foreign Government.
You're just nothing but scum, and you're committing treason.
And Americans aren't going to let you get away with it, and you're not going to scare anybody.
Thank you for calling.
Thank you, Bill.
602-337-2524 Stick that in your eye Little Costa Rican United Nations Socialist Propaganda Radio 602-337-2524 Good evening, you're on the air.
Yeah, this is Dale.
Hello, Dale.
State of Indiana, unorganized militia.
Wonderful.
Tell us about your militia.
Well, I haven't heard anything about race or religious creeds or anything here.
We're just starting to get organized.
Wonderful.
Working on it hard.
Need to verify your shortwave frequency, please.
5.065 megahertz.
5.065.
And by the way, folks, looks like we might be going back to WHRI sometime here in the near future.
Thank you for calling.
Well, thank you.
Keep up the good work.
Oh, wait a minute.
Did you?
Oh, okay.
Thank you.
Sorry.
Lost my mind.
602-337-2524.
Boy, I just love things like this, folks.
I love to stick it right in their ear, and that's exactly what we're doing.
Keep calling.
602-337-2524.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Hi, Bill.
Hello.
I'm a member of the Michigan Militia, and I'd just like to say that the guys that I've been in contact with are just normal guys.
Norm Olson is a terrific person, and We're not a bunch of crazy kooks out there.
We just believe in the Constitution and want to carry out our rights to keep and bear arms and live our lives unencumbered.
Have you seen any racists?
No, sir.
Have you seen any bank robbers?
No, sir.
Anybody that wants to overthrow the United States government?
No, not at all.
We would just as soon be left alone as far as that's concerned.
We just want to live our lives.
We don't enjoy the government trampling on our rights, and I think everybody pretty much feels the same way.
That's right.
The government that we have in Washington, D.C.
is not our constitutional government.
They're a bunch of traitors, and if they don't get their act together, I have no idea what's going to happen, but I'll tell you this.
Americans are not going to become a socialist nation very easily.
That's for sure.
And over the weekend everybody was a little nervous but we stayed in contact with each other to make sure we were all together.
Good.
And don't forget Christmas is coming up and just because we got through Thanksgiving does not mean we're safe.
I know.
And we're just hanging tight and continuing our training.
Wonderful.
Thanks for calling.
Thank you.
602-337-2524.
If you belong to a militia, call in.
Let's get this up above board.
Let's tell it like it is.
Get this propaganda machine ground to a screeching halt.
Pretty soon you're going to be getting input from us on how to deal with this and what to submit to your local media and everyone else, because we're going to give you a report that tells the truth about the BATF, the ADL, and the militia.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Good evening.
Okay, I belong to the Ohio Committee of 1776, Second Amendment Political Militia.
Okay, now what I need to know is, I remember you mentioned that there was a specific county that a man by the name of Johnson in Ohio was from.
Can you mention that real quick again?
Because I didn't catch it because the propagation was going out when you mentioned the county.
I've already put the report up.
I don't have it in front of me and I'd have to go through the pages and find that particular paragraph and frankly we don't have time for that.
That's okay.
You can order the tapes if you'd like.
Okay, and I'll catch that when you come around with it again.
I really appreciate all that you're doing.
We're trying to consolidate.
Right now, what we was trying to originally do was get a certain congressman out of office that's in the 14th Congressional District.
It did not work, but it did come down a percentage point on the voting.
And what we'll be doing again is we'll be trying to get the man that was running for his place up again and we'll be going at it stronger.
People are hanging signs everywhere trying to get this man out of office because he voted for the Brady Bill, the assault weapon ban and as such.
Let's see, I was trying to think what else to say but I couldn't think of it right off the hand.
But I'll be paying attention to try and see if I can catch that man.
Do you know how to get him out of office real quick?
How?
Start writing on your signs that he's anti-Semitic and racist.
Learn to use the enemy's own tactics back against them.
You'll get him out of office real fast.
Thank you, sir.
You're welcome.
Have a good evening.
Keep it up.
You too.
Good night.
Folks, you've got to learn how to fight.
Learn how to fight.
Watch what they do and then turn it right back around on them.
Smack it right in their face.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Alright Bill.
I don't know if you mentioned Minnesota or not.
I had a static crash, but I'd just like to say the BATF can add us to their list.
We have two up here that I know of, and there may be more.
Wonderful.
Are you racist?
Not that I know of.
I do know some racists, but they're not members of my militia, anyway.
Is your group anti-Semitic?
Not at all.
Are you trying to overthrow the United States government?
No, sir.
We want to see the Constitution restored to this country.
And that's our legal and lawful duty under the law.
That's right.
I thank you very much.
I thank you for calling.
OK, you socialist pukes out there, you better get it together, because you're playing with real Americans, and real Americans don't lose, they don't back down, and they don't run, and you are not going to take our country from us easily, and you're not going to scare us, and your little propaganda, bullshit, lie campaign is not going to work for even five more minutes.
I'm doing much better.
Wonderful.
Are you racist?
Are you out to overthrow the United States government?
militia out of Detroit.
Wonderful.
Fantastic.
Are you racist?
No.
Are you out to overthrow the United States government?
But not.
That's fantastic.
You see, folks, real Americans are out there from every different religion, every different racial makeup, every different creed, and we all care about one thing.
I Our personal liberties, our freedom, and the only way that we have that is through the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
So you ought to... Hey, you got that from the commander of the Black Panther Militia in Detroit, Brother General Omar Sousa Dean.
Wonderful.
Thank you for calling.
Peace.
Peace to you, too, brother.
You see, folks?
There's not too much separating us when our liberties come into danger.
602-337-2524.
When they try to take our liberties away from us, you'll see the most unlikely people standing together side-by-side fighting these traitors.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Hello.
Hello.
Turn off your radio.
Stand by.
Folks, when you call a radio show, any radio show, turn your radio off.
Otherwise, you'll get big problems.
See what you hear through your radio is on delay.
Yes, Bill.
Yes, go ahead.
Okay, Texas.
I would like to get the number of the fellow in Houston or that give you my number so he can contact me.
Well, if you feel... It's a fair loose mess down here in this area where I'm at, around the Palestinian area, but there's probably four counties, not probably, there is four counties that we've had meetings in involving law enforcement people and we'd like to They don't know it, but a lot of law enforcement and a lot of military commanders with their units and their weapons will come over to our side.
They're sworn to protect the Constitution.
That's true.
Okay, if you'll call tomorrow during the daytime, sometime in the morning, and give your number to Pete, and if the other militia people in Texas will call tomorrow and get that number, then you guys can make contact.
That's great.
I'll call the same number.
No.
Call 602-337-2562.
2562?
That's right.
Okay.
Thank you much.
Thank you for calling.
We've got time for one more call, folks, and then we've got to wrap it up.
602-337-2524.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Bill?
Yes?
I just want to say you're my hero.
I'm not a member of the militia, but a huge fan of yours.
I'm currently reading your book, The Pale Horse.
I think you're doing a great thing for America, and I wanted to tell you from America and South Carolina, I greatly appreciate it.
I'm not a racist.
We don't have a militia here, but there is a small group of us training right now, so if a militia ever forms in this area, then we'll have an opportunity to join.
Well, don't wait for it to form.
Go out and inform us.
Well, currently, the Libertarian Party is working on getting the legal end of it worked out.
Once they get that worked out, then we'll contact them.
But what I wanted to tell you was that some of the members of our group right now are multiple jurisdiction task force police officers that do not believe in what they're doing and do not believe in this government.
Fantastic!
I love it!
By the way, don't give me all the credit.
George Washington made me do it.
Well, I can tell you what got me started.
I heard you mention Mark from Michigan tonight and I've desperately been trying to get my hands on another copy of his tape.
I saw his tape a little over a year ago, and that was the one that gave me the wake-up call and the members of my group the wake-up call.
Well, good.
I'm glad he's doing some good.
To try to, you know, say, something stinks, and let's see if we can't do something to change it.
A lot stinks, but be careful, folks.
Be real careful.
We've got the four militias, but don't get baited into doing anything illegal or attacking anybody for any reason until we have just cause to do so.
One other question I'd like to address while we're on the air, Bill.
I've got to hurry because we're out of time.
Okay.
I'm interested in joining your intelligence network and can you tell me how I would go about doing that?
Send me $100.
We'll send you the oath.
If you take the oath, you're a member and we'll process everything and get your materials back to you and sign you to a station chief.
If you don't take the oath, we'll send you $100 back and we don't want you.
How's that?
Good for you.
Good for you.
Thank you for calling.
They passed GATT tonight in the Congress.
I'm fighting mad and ready to lift us, get this thing over with, and show these suckers that we're not playing.
Good for you.
Good for you.
Thank you for calling.
Thank you, Bill.
Folks, good night.
God bless you.
And God save this republic.
Thank you.
Oh, my God. my God.
Oh, my God. my God.
My story!
Oh, my God.
You're a lover.
Stay with me, I'll be your man.
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