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Sept. 8, 1993 - Bill Cooper
49:57
Michael Schiffman, World Parliament of Religion (2)
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You're listening to the Hour of the Time.
I'm William Cooper.
Ladies and gentlemen, we're having big stuff here.
Tons of rain.
The phones weren't working and I'm a little out of breath because I've been running around drying off phone terminals and blowing water out of phone boxes and a whole bunch of other things.
And if I hadn't have been doing that, I couldn't be on the air.
Right now, I can assure you, we're expecting a call in from Michael Shipman, a CAGI member and investigator who just returned from Chicago and he was scheduled to be our guest on Wednesday night and wasn't able to call in.
So Michael, if you're out there listening, get on the phone and let's see if we can't do it tonight.
You might not be able to get through because the phone lines are terrible.
In fact, if you're experiencing bad reception tonight, it's probably more because of the severe rain and wind in, uh, Arizona.
A lot of flooding.
And, uh, wow, this is, uh, really something.
Now, two weeks ago, we saw several large flocks of geese flying south.
Extremely unusual.
I've never seen flocks of geese flying south that early in the fall.
In fact, August is not really the fall, folks.
So, I don't know what's going on.
We've also noticed that the deer have been coming down from the higher elevations much sooner than they normally ever do.
And it looks like we're going to have an early winter, at least in this part of the country, And I think I predicted before that it's going to be very cold no matter when winter starts.
And we'll talk about the reasons for that at some other time.
But right now, I need to catch my breath and get a drink of water and check the shortwave to make sure that I'm really on the air.
And while I'm doing that, I'm going to let you ...ponder the words of this musical selection, and see if they have any relevance.
Let's try it.
Michael, are you out there?
Hello?
Hello?
Turn off your radio!
Mine's not on.
Your radio's not on?
Oh, you've got something on here.
What's up?
I call here all I hear is music.
Is this my phone?
No, this is yours.
Well, how are you calling in?
We're expecting our guest to call in.
Oh, well, your wife, I guess, gave me this number.
Well, we're on the air.
Oh, is this Bill Cooper?
This is Bill.
We're on the air, and I've got to dump you.
Okay.
Bye.
Well, folks, why are we doing this?
Let's see what happens now.
This is really weird.
Okay, I found the pedal.
Oh boy, doing a live show is kind of funny sometimes.
Michael, if you're out there listening, To get this to work and to get to the satellite Earth link, I had to shift the lines.
So you need to call in on 5-1-7-4.
5-1-7-4, Michael, if you're listening.
And if you're not listening, I guess we'll just do without our guest another night.
Michael Shipman calling in on 6-0-2-3-3-3-5-1-7-4.
23335174. There he is.
Is that you?
Is that you, Michael?
Hi, Bill.
Is that you?
Yeah.
Ah, good.
We finally did it.
And before long, he's not too long.
He's up there in his storming hat.
He's got the storms we're at, huh?
Oh, yeah.
Are we on live yet, or, uh... Yeah, we're on live.
Oh, no!
I don't know.
Woo, woo, woo.
Well, folks, it looks like somebody has lost their little child.
Bye.
If there's a mother out there looking for your little child, his diapers are full and he needs your attention immediately.
I think you can take care of the little fellow.
You're on the air.
Hi Bill, it's Michael.
Hello Michael.
I knew you'd get through.
Finally, I've finally heard you say, 5-1-7-3.
Finally, we just stopped waiting here, but you wouldn't believe.
You wouldn't believe what I've been through tonight to get on the air.
All the phones were dead.
All of the phone boxes were full of water.
The yard has about six inches of water.
And I've been running around blowing water out of junction boxes and drying them off.
Telephone contacts and switching lines, and I finally got it to work.
Too much work for one man.
Well, no.
Almost too much work for one man, but I got it done.
Now, I don't know if we're going to get dumped off because it's still raining and the wind is really blowing hard, and our telephone company is GTE, which is absolutely the worst telephone company in the world.
So, let's try to get in as much as we possibly can, and you would have been on sooner, except some little two-year-old out there has a full viper and wanted to play with the telephone.
His mother wasn't watching him.
Sure.
Tell us about your trip to Chicago, Michael.
Well, it was a great experience.
It's a beautiful city, and I enjoyed the city very much, and I did some research into The upcoming parliamentary election, which begins Saturday afternoon, August 28th, and it runs until Saturday afternoon, September 4th.
It will be concluded with an address by President Obama.
There's about 680 talks being given.
I'm disturbed that Waco isn't mentioned in this list, but Let me give you the definition of a cult.
they would be doing some kind of investigation of that tragedy, but that's not the case.
Well, let me give you the definition of a cult.
A cult, according to the present-day religious establishment,
is any religious organization...
Where did you go, Michael?
by the Royal Council of Churches, such as the Branch Davidians.
What did you find when you got to Chicago? Where did you go, Michael?
Well, I first looked to where the Council of the Parliament of All Religions has their headquarters,
which is on top of the building, and it's called the Bankers' Building, on 105 West Adams Avenue.
And they disclosed to me a very delightful note here about a preliminary program which is subject to change, and that's all the information I could get.
I can't trace down who's funding this.
I got in contact with Uh huh.
at the University of Chicago and Chuck Colston will be speaking here September 2nd, 7.30pm.
And that's brought to you by the Templeton Foundation, and I do not know what the Templeton Foundation do.
I remember Tex Mars saying that Mr. Pershing was supposed to receive an award for progress in health religion, but
this was done over the fall and I couldn't find out.
I discovered that two members of the council of foreign relations will be talking.
George Stephanopoulos, who is Clinton's Communications Director, is doing a talk called The Problematic of Church-State Relations, and his father, Robert Stephanopoulos, will be presenting as well.
Also, Henry Seidman, who is the Executive Director of the American Jewish Congress, will be talking there as well.
His talk is entitled, so I hope I will be able Uh, can you describe this, uh, Banker's, uh, building?
Well, the Banker's building is a typical office tower, and there isn't much to it.
But the interesting part is, when you get to where the actual parliament's being held, there's a place called Palmer House, which is part of the Hilton Hotel in downtown Chicago, and the minute you walk in there, the first thing I thought of was wealth.
Wealth, wealth, wealth.
The place reeks of money.
And the architecture was impressive as well.
There's a room, one of the rooms will be called the Empire Room.
And when you start to look at some of the architecture surrounding that,
you see a boar's head, you see an antelope to the left of that pig's head,
holding a horn and hermes.
You might be able to explain that to the audience that Brad represents.
Well, it's straight out of the old mystery religion that we've covered many hours on this program explaining.
And if anybody, we don't have time tonight to get into that, but if anybody wants to know what this symbology means, they should order the tapes from the Mystery School.
We've done, I think, 12 or 29 hours.
Which is a lot.
It is.
Yeah, is your radio on, Michael?
Turn it off, please.
Am I doing that?
Yes, you're doing that.
Sorry.
Folks, any time, whether you're a guest or whether you're a caller in to any radio show in the world, always turn your radio off.
I should have known better.
I was trying to tape this, but it's not working well.
I looked around the Palmer House some more and there were big urns with beautiful plants
in them decorated with brass goat heads.
So there was some symbolism in the place that to me was religious in nature.
I'm not sure which religion that might be but I have a good idea.
On September 3rd, 1993, the Army priest Adiak will be describing the role of a priesthood
priest in the fellowship of ISIS.
Jesus.
Through this research, I've discovered that the Hindu community is being represented the most.
They have the majority of representatives at this Parliament.
Al-Hindu.
Jainism.
Zoroaster.
Ah, who else do we got?
Just about a theosophic worldview.
I can't hear that though, I'm sorry.
A zeal and spirituality, a theosophy, the Luther's trust.
Let me see, I've got a big list here.
It just goes on and on and on and on and on and on.
Just about every religion up there.
is represented very heavily except for one.
Which one is that?
Christianity.
Christianity is almost completely absent on the list of the attendees at this world parliament,
or parliament of the world's religions.
And that's just absolutely incredible.
There's pretty much things like the.
Very few, few and far between.
to the spiritual heritage of India.
Uh-huh.
Um, very few, few and far between.
Um, well, that sounds really interesting.
I haven't figured out where this fits in yet, but a gentleman by the name of Joey Smack,
I did find out he's a psychiatrist from Harvard.
Yeah.
Okay, could you talk a little louder, Michael, and make sure the phone is right in front of your mouth?
Okay, I'll repeat that.
The U.F.O.
abduction phenomenon.
What could it mean for the human future?
John E. Mack.
On that same table, Isis of 10,000 names brought to you by the powerful Isis.
So the temple of Isis is well represented.
Oh, it is!
And, uh, you all learned that in the mystery religion, Isis, well, Pachylocyrus is the doctrine.
Isis is the church.
The veil of Isis is the, uh, curtain behind which the mystery is hidden.
And, um, boy, we're getting an echo on this line.
...behind which the mystery is hidden, and they call that the lost word of Freemasonry, amongst many, many other things.
And everywhere that you see the symbology for Osiris, you will see an obelisk, or a phallus statue, or emblem.
And you will always see a reflecting pool, which represents the Nile, or Isis.
The receptive are female, uh, portion of the androgynous God.
And, uh, the symbology is that Isis reflects the pure light of her master.
And, uh... Is that the, the same doctrine, perhaps, as, as above, so below?
Absolutely.
They represent with baphomet, I believe it's pronounced.
That is correct.
And that's the whole meaning of the androgynous God, the yin, the yang, the positive, the negative.
He may have control on both levels.
That's right.
They're also stating this, that the generative force, or the male portion of the androgynous god, is what gets things going.
That's correct. They're also stating this, that the generative force, or the male portion of the androgynous God, is what
gets things going.
It plants the idea, it's the spark, it's the impetus. And the female, or the isis portion of this androgynous God,
is what nurtures and gives birth through the child Horus, which is the entire body of those who consider themselves
to be illumined.
It is the adepts, or the priests of the philosophy of fire, the mystery religion of Babylon.
Now, who... Ali was the one who...
Apparently proclaimed that word for the new yonar he would like to wish you luck.
But that's his, Alistair Crowley's, mission message.
According to Crowley, when he took over the OTO, the Ordo Templi Orientalis,
he was carrying on the work of the old Adam Weishaupt's Illuminati.
Their goal has always been to destroy all existing religions, save theirs.
All existing governments, save theirs, which will be a one-world totalitarian socialist government brought about by the Brotherhood of Man, the Order.
And to destroy the family.
To destroy patriotism and nationalism.
And bring about their so-called utopia.
A thousand years of peace.
It's funny you mention nationalism.
I don't know if your listeners are familiar with it.
I know you are, with your rants in your book.
Came out in 1953.
A channeled book, so to speak, apparently by angels.
And I went to the Urantia Foundation, and I spoke to a gentleman there, and we got on the topic.
He brought it up, actually, that the disease of nationalism must go for humanity to progress.
And I left it at that, and I know the problems get into that aspect.
Why do you have to say that, sir?
That's correct.
And if it means America being destroyed, then so be it, because they're curing some disease,
when they're the cause of that disease, and they precipitate it, the whole thing anyways.
That's correct. If you go back through history and look at the cause of most of the major suffering in this world,
these men have always been behind it.
And I say men because usually it is the male part of this order that's being called.
Although there is a female part of this order and there are females actively engaged in bringing about the completion of what they call the great work or the great society.
The plan.
What else did you find in Chicago, Michael?
I saw Masonic temples that had no windows at least on the back.
I obviously couldn't ...obtain access into these places.
I did take pictures of that.
The front was very unassuming.
Scottish Rite Temple of Chicago.
With the double-headed eagle or phoenix.
I think it's a phoenix.
Remember the double-headed eagle was the symbol of the Roman Emperor.
It was also the symbol of Hitler's Third Reich.
Yes.
It's also the symbol of the 33rd degree of Freemasonry.
I can go on and on and on.
The symbology connecting all of these together, they are one.
Communism, Nazism, Socialism, the Order, the Brotherhood, they are all the same.
Uh-huh.
The passwords that the Communist Party used in this country, according to the... To the FBI.
...are the exact same passwords and handshakes used by the Masonic Alliance.
Sure.
I discovered at this Parliament that the oil in the engine, so to speak, behind all this is money.
And that was my first impression when I went into Palmer House.
I was struck by the wealth and the pompousness of it all to me.
And it's sad because that is the oil in the engine.
And whether people like it or not, that engine is going to explode.
And they're keeping people back out of the lab track.
And it was ironic that the council headquarters is in a banker's building.
It's not coincidental, that's deliberate.
Absolutely.
Just as it was not coincidental that for many, many years the headquarters of the Lucis Trust, the religion of theosophy, the worship of Lucifer, was in the United Nations building.
Now, as I go down here, I'm looking at the major presentations.
As I go down here, I see religious leadership in a post-modern world, and you all heard me read the article on post-modernism the other night.
The contribution of Indian Christianity to the spiritual heritage of India, the genuine authentic religion we need today, meaning that there is not a genuine authentic religion existing today, The Jane approach to self-realization, the return of the goddess.
Oh, yes.
The universe of I. Yes.
Ecological post-modernism.
Now, the theme of the article that I wrote the other day is that post-modernism is fascism, Nazism, amongst the intellectual elite.
Here's another one.
Euthanasia.
Religious fundamentalism.
Six scriptures.
Evolution and its revolutionary role.
Now note the revolutionary role.
Sure.
The operation of Zarathustra's moral imperative in the world today.
And in one of the programs on Mystery Babylon, I talked about the movie 2001 and the real meaning of also Spock's Zarathustra, which is the opening theme for that movie.
And the tremendous symbology in that movie, which is only not about a voyage through space at all, but is about man's voyage from prehistory.
To the new age and the birth of the new root race, and that was the symbol of the fetus floating in space at the end of that movie.
Uh-huh.
Most people walked out of that movie, they knew that they had enjoyed the tremendous visual effects, but they didn't understand what it was that they had seen.
Sure.
Well, I discovered that their method sometimes is blatant publicity if you want to look for it.
Some of this is blatant.
Mm-hmm.
But they maintain an anonymity by doing it that way.
And that's an old trick, too.
That's right.
It's like the March 15th edition of Time, and they have a picture of David Koresh for the cover story, and inside the magazine it says, Cult of Death.
Well, they should know.
They should know.
I mean, the writers of this and the perpetrators, that's the cult.
And to me, They're blatantly telling me that's how I look at it, because I don't view this with any truth at all.
The Time article, that is.
When the ATF agents are claiming from the moment they stepped out of the trailer they were under fire from everywhere.
The movie, well, but then, I should say the video proves that that's not true.
I'm discouraged that Waco wasn't brought up.
How to avoid a tragedy like this was being done.
Michael, you have to understand that the whole purpose of the Parliament of Worlds religions is to destroy the world's existing religions.
And come together in a new humanist religion that changes what the needs of mankind are with really, what they really mean when they say that, is with the needs of the ruling elite.
Sure.
Here's one from Friday, September 3rd.
Humanism as an alternative to traditional religion.
That's right.
Human unity in the spiritual religion of humanity is another one.
I can go right down here and you can see this.
And, uh, so the Branch Davidians were a stone in the path of the marching forward of this movement toward one religion.
One religion that will suit the needs of man and not have a moral law given to man by God.
Do as thou wilt.
Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.
And I just got some... And then they go further with that because the rhetoric says love is the law, love under will.
They want to sort of present a so-called brotherhood, love is mentioned, and that sounds really nice.
But it means love under will, where love and true compassion for other people is subordinate
to the will of that ruling elite.
That's how I interpret it.
You know, I've read so much of that stuff and it's... Isn't it incredible?
Yeah.
I just slapped my lips at it.
Now, folks, I don't want you to get the wrong idea.
This is not a religious show.
But we learned a long time ago that at the root of everything that's happening in the world today are religious events that happened hundreds and even thousands of years ago.
And there are secret societies and groups that have sworn throughout the centuries to wreak their vengeance.
And that's exactly what they're doing.
And so we're not trying to shove... I'm not trying to shove my religion down your throat,
and Michael's certainly not trying to shove his religion down your throat,
and Michael and I have different religions.
What we're against is this effort to say we can't practice the religion that we want to practice,
but that we're going to have to come together in a one-armed religion where no other religions will be allowed.
You see, I believe in the Constitution of the United States of America, wholeheartedly and completely.
It's the only document that ever in the world set any, any people free.
And to this day, Americans are the first people existing upon the face of this earth.
And that's only because we recognize creator-endowed rights and we have a Constitutional Bill of Rights that were put in place to protect those rights against usurpation by our own government or anyone else.
And that is being eroded from within by these secret societies, these people who truly and completely worship Lucifer.
And don't get that wrong either, because when they say they worship Lucifer, they mean that as the intellect, primordial knowing.
Uh, a metaphor or an allegory would be that man was held prisoner in the Garden of Eden by an unjust, vindictive god, and he was set free by Lucifer through his agent, Satan, when he gave man the gift of knowledge.
Incorrect!
The use of which will make man himself God.
And that is their whole philosophy.
They do not really believe in a Lucifer, or a Jehovah, or any kind of a God, except a pantheistic God that permeates everything, and that's where you get all this Earth Mother...
The goddess, the aether, everything is interconnected.
If you breathe, something else is exhaled.
And the principle of gear all stems from this.
They reject the notion of a god, such as the god of the Christians and the Jews.
They reject the notion of Jesus Christ being the incarnated god in the flesh on this earth.
Born of a virgin birth, and they reject a holy ghost.
They reject all of these things.
They reject Allah.
The closest thing you can come to their religion, and that's why the Hindu religion is so pervasive in this Parliament of the World's Religions, because that's really the closest to what they believe.
Now, when you really get to the heart and soul of it, they are Gnostics.
And I would encourage all of you to look that up.
That's right.
They worship knowledge.
They worship the intellect.
To know.
Which is not a bad thing.
That's not a bad thing at all.
I've spent most of my time trying to learn and know.
But there are differences to be drawn because you are seeking to help and lift up with a particular message and not clothe it or hide behind it.
And that's what separates that.
And there's another thing.
They claim that man is God.
If man is God, well, Shirley MacLaine stood on a beach and threw up her hands and claimed that she was God.
Yet she's growing older, she still pays rent, and folks, she's gonna die.
That's been taught out of Chicago, is where the Saint Germain movement had its beginning.
And, uh, the Soul Doctrine as well.
It started in the early 1930s as I Am.
I Am is the supreme name.
You have the ability to use the name and manifest perfection and be God.
And this was the same thing that Maria was trapped in.
Yes.
Well, that was told to me, not only through the books, but through an older gentleman that I met, who had lived and studied with the St.
Germain Foundation all his life.
He told me I was God.
How far in that... He said, don't you see?
You are God.
No, I don't see that.
Make me a universe, Bob.
Well, that comes in time.
It comes after the so-called Ascension that we are to make.
It takes a specific set of teachings, and I think perverted.
Mainly the Biblical teachings.
That has been the crux of the resurrection and eternal life.
And that permeates a lot of all the teachings.
The New Agers are more heavily into it.
They believe if they're good enough and pure enough, they won't have to die.
I've got to take a little break here, Mike, and do my thing.
So, if you'll just stay on the line, we'll get right back to you.
Uh-huh.
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Mama said, I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
Look in his room.
There's one cat in a room.
In a room.
Mama said, oh.
Now, Mama's not your go-cart and still has fun.
He's just a young boy.
He's just throwing his wild old semester away.
He's just throwing his wild old semester away.
Mama said, oh.
He's all on the bed.
Mama said, oh.
Something real strange.
Something real strange.
He's up like a man.
Mama said, oh.
Mama down the road said...
Mama down the road said.
Mama down the road said.
He likes to feel his feet on the floor.
He left the two of the sheep.
And all he knows is that he's never been able to sleep.
Mama said, oh.
Mama said, oh.
I saw him from the window.
He was all anxious, just screaming.
I said, is there anyone that we can see That's got a long way down the line?
I said, is there anyone that we can see That's got a long way down the line?
I love playing the tune, Val Kelly!
Carry down the pollution.
Bring along the red silver trail.
And Mama said, Papa, help me.
Don't kill me, I'll be in the cage.
I said, that you couldn't be.
Think about my baby in hell.
And now, do the thing.
It's time to rise and sing.
Keep the fire on.
Shut up, you shutters and close down the doors.
I'm gonna need all the heat that I can.
I want you to melt my silver metal.
Now do the thing, it's time.
I've got a job to do.
And I'll get it done before the fall comes down.
Here we go.
Okay, need to talk a little bit louder.
Better?
Yeah, that's better.
Okay.
Well, what'd you think about that sound?
Why do you think I played that?
I bet there's a lot of people out there wondering why I played that musical selection.
Can you guess?
I can.
Okay.
The reason I played it is everybody wonders what to do.
We must reject those who are destroying this country, who are destroying the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
And I'm going to tell you right now, everybody's been looking around for years and they can't find the enemy that's destroying this country from within.
And we're told by people on other talk shows and we're told by so-called government whistleblowers and all these other people that it's just a bunch of crooks running around in the dark bumping into each other and it just accidentally always turns out in their favor.
They always get away with it and we always end up getting screwed.
Sure.
Well, the truth is, folks, the real culprits are right down on the corner in your town, in your local secret society, no matter what they call it, if it has an organizational membership structure in the shape of a pyramid, with a few at the top really controlling it, and controlling who goes up through the degrees and who finds out the ultimate secret, and a whole bunch of slathering idiots on the bottom who never will know anything.
The truth, folks, is the only secret in these secret societies is how to control everybody else.
They infiltrate all levels of our government, our military, including city, state, and federal, and they are in control.
That's truly mind-boggling.
They practice a secret religion.
And we have already covered over 28 hours on this broadcast devoted solely to that subject where we have proven it beyond any shadow of a doubt using their own words, their own writings, their own books.
And we have disclosed what their great plan is, their great works, their great society.
We have identified the lost word of Freemasonry and all of the others.
And we've averted Well, the thing is, they've kept the public running after a paycheck for so long, trying to reap the benefits of the monetary system.
The people, I find, don't have time to want to know or think they have a need to know.
It really sucks the other guy.
Well, they'd better find time or they're going to be putting chains on their ankles very shortly.
They had better wake up.
They had better get their head out of the sand.
They had better understand that the only reason they can do the things that they can do and have the things that they have is because of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
It's because of creator-endowed rights protected by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
And if we let those go, we will have no more protections, no more rights.
There are no protections or rights guaranteed to individuals in the United Nations Charter, nor in any of the resolutions that they've ever passed.
Were you aware of that, Michael?
I wasn't, no.
Well, it's true.
And in the New World Order, we're going to come under some very, very strict controls.
Now, one of the ways that they keep people so occupied that they're not able to identify the real enemy or do anything about it...
Is that they keep everybody off chasing these wild geese all over the place.
All of these things.
Cosmo hole.
Pardon?
Like an ozone hole.
Like an ozone hole.
Like the burning of the rainforest.
Like global warming.
Like cosmos.
Like treasury gates.
Like the M.I.A.P.O.W.
issue.
It's not gonna do you any good, folks, to borrow how many POWs or MIAs if you're putting all your efforts into that and we lose our country because they're gonna go from one slavery to another slavery.
And you better get, you better get that through your thick head.
We must identify the enemy and we must save this country and every other issue is moot.
Moot, I should say.
It has no bearing until that primary mission is accomplished.
I hope every American that can will be in Washington September 29th.
September 10th.
I'm glad you brought that up.
I was going to bring it up toward the end of the program.
Go ahead and tell everybody about it, Michael.
Yes, and for all of you out there who say that you're the one person and there's nothing that you can do, well, one woman put this together.
One lonely, helpless little woman sitting in Colorado named D.B.
I haven't written to Colorado yet, that's the gist of the whole meeting to me.
For all of you out there who say that there's only one person and there's nothing that you can do,
well, one woman put this together.
One lonely, helpless little woman sitting in Colorado named D.B. Kidd
will work the entire nation's third to go to Washington on September the 29th
and meet on the Capitol steps at 9 a.m.
to present Hundreds of thousands of petitions with millions and millions of names on them to Congress to abolish the unconstitutional Federal Reserve System and eliminate, do away with the criminal Internal Revenue System, which is levying a direct tax upon the people in a direct violation of the Constitution of the United States of America, and most Americans don't even know that.
I know many people who say, well, we've got to have the IRS.
We must have taxes.
We've got to pay our income tax.
Sure.
Folks, I'm not about paying taxes, but I want to pay legal taxes and direct taxes levied against the population are unconstitutional.
Do you realize that if we just levied one five cent on every six pack of Coca-Cola that's sold in the world because Coca-Cola is owned by the United States, if we just levied five cents on every six pack of coca-cola that's
sold in the world.
We could pay the medical bills of every man, woman, and child in this country from birth to death with no problem.
And that's just one little excise tax on one little product.
And everybody says, well, if we didn't have income tax, we wouldn't be able to pave our streets, and we wouldn't have
medical care.
Well, you better get your head out of your ass and put it back on your shoulders and you'd better wake up and stop being sheeple.
There's only one reason for an income tax, a graduated income tax, and it's spelled out in the Communist Manifesto, written by Karl Marx.
And that is to destroy the bourgeoisie, in the Communist terms, in our everyday language, so you'll understand it.
It means middle class.
Exactly.
Charles Degree makes that pretty clear in Tragedy and Hope.
That's right.
And it's doing just that, isn't it?
It's destroying the middle class in this country.
And every time that they say taxes go down, or they lower taxes, we have always found that they have really increased in ways that ordinary people don't even understand.
I think it's so imperative that people People go to Washington, they better let them know.
At least let them know that there is a voice.
It has reason behind it, and it's guided, it's intelligent, and... I hope it's successful.
I really do.
It's so imperative.
It's extremely important.
I'm almost... I'm so caught up with the monetary issue, it sometimes takes up most of my time.
Well, let me tell you how this affects our lives, folks.
I'm trying to become more lucid with it, but it's so much harder.
Well, let me tell you how this affects our lives, folks.
Most of you are out there busting your butts, trying to just stay above the water.
And there used to be a time when one of you went to work and one stayed home and raised two children.
Now the children are in government-controlled daycare centers learning how to live in the New World Order and both of the parents are out trying to make ends meet and they're fighting a losing battle simply because the Federal Reserve back in the 70s and again in the early 80s pumped unbelievable amounts of money into circulation on the farm of debt.
Credit.
In other words, they loaned money to people and the money did not exist.
They fooled the people into believing that the inflation was caused by an oil shortage.
There was no oil shortage.
And now, everybody, everybody, is trying to work so hard, two and three jobs, some members of some families, just to keep their heads above the water and try to keep their home.
And for a young couple just starting out, the American dream is no more.
Folks, they can't afford the things that maybe some of us were lucky enough to get and have and are just barely managing to keep today.
That's imperative.
It's so important that People understand that issue, and they're big banksters that we're dealing with.
When you have a hard asset currency, such as gold and silver coins, inflation, folks, does not exist.
It cannot happen.
Roosevelt's first executive order in office was to take away the gold, saying that it was inimical to the interests of our people.
And he would like the American public to think he was doing them a favor.
What he meant was it was inimical to the interests of the Illuminati.
That's right.
A world back, thank you very much.
That's correct.
And the Great Depression, that everybody believes was caused because of the stock market crash, that's another law.
The Great Depression was caused because the Federal Reserve Banking System pulled 25% of the available net worth out of circulation, put it in a vault, and refused to release it.
And that threw us in our trap.
Pure and simple.
That's correct.
But they had to make the American people want socialism.
They paved the way They paved the way, folks, for socialism.
You did.
Ever since that happened, people have been looking to the government for handouts ever since.
And we're on the verge of being a full-blown socialist country.
And folks, the next step after that is communism.
Well, I feel it's at the point where a majority of the public is screaming for it.
Take care of me.
That's right.
And they are using scare tactics in so many insidious ways.
Fear of losing your job or wage controls, a blank form or another.
They are truly scared and uneasy.
And they sense that there's something wrong.
They're not even playing around.
The TV has been lying to them.
That would be a miracle.
But they use fear.
I'm starting to see that quite plainly.
That's correct.
That is correct.
And the trick is in some way you must learn not to be afraid and do what is right in all instances rather than giving in to the fear.
Socialism is a reversion to childhood by a nation of adults.
They need a body to take care of them.
They don't believe in God, so they can't look to God for help.
And this is it.
So if something happens to them in this life, there's nothing.
They're just dead and they crumble to dust.
Well, they live their life in fear.
They must be fed.
They must be clothed.
Somebody has to give them a job.
They can do nothing for themselves.
We're quickly approaching the point where the vast majority of the adult population of the United States of America are helpless children who, if all of a sudden lost all their benefits, Society, instead of being what it used to be, would collapse.
Except for the strong who know how to survive, and be responsible, and take care of themselves, and that small core would rebuild this country to the strongest, most profitable, best nation on this earth, just like it was before, when people had to be responsible and take care of themselves.
We were dealing with a A highly publicized criminal underworld and an anonymous criminal overworld will deceive and take away our guns because we have a drug problem and just do whatever it is to get the criminals off the street and we want to live a good life and I think people honestly do, but they don't see the two sides of the coin and the criminal underworld as highly publicized and that again keeps people in fear.
Well, you have to understand that the Criminal Underworld is an organized secret society also,
which was begun in Italy by Giuseppe Mazzini, the head of the Illuminati in Italy,
who corresponded extensively with Albert Pike, who was the head of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry in
this country and eventually the world.
Folks, we've got to go. Michael, thank you for being our guest.
You're a wonderful CAGI member. You do a lot of good research.
Thank you for your trip to Chicago and what you were able to impart to the listening audience tonight.
Everybody out there, I want you to listen to this because you can make it big if you stop being a sheeple,
if you start using your head, if you begin to listen and don't believe me or anybody else in this world.
You check everything out and verify it for yourself and watch out for the Trojan horses.
Good night, Michael.
Good night, Bobby.
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