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the world.
Once again, across America and around the world, you're listening to the Hour of the
Time.
I'm William Cooper.
I want to remind everyone out there listening who can make it that I will be at the Self-Reliance
Expo and Fair 93, and that's going to be at the Denver Coliseum, September 16th through
the 19th, 1993.
I'll be at booth number 64 all of those days, if you'd like to stop by and say hello.
And if we can swing it, we're going to be doing our shows Live nightly from the Denver Coliseum or from the hotel, whichever it turns out to be.
So it should be pretty interesting.
If you'd like to stop by and be a part of the show or be a live audience, so to speak, which we've only had once, you're perfectly welcome to do that.
That's if everything goes right.
I'll be the keynote speaker Thursday, September the 16th at 7 p.m.
I'll be speaking again Friday, September the 17th at 1130 a.m.
and again the keynote speaker Saturday, September the 18th, 830 p.m.
And sometime during those days, the 16th through the 19th, I will be conducting two workshops.
My workshops are generally very long in length.
I'll be covering some very important subjects.
They will cost you money if you're a CAGI member.
As always, you will receive a substantial discount, and that's just one of the many benefits that CAGI members are privy to.
So, I'm going to check here and see who's on the line, because I'm expecting an important call.
Hello?
Hello.
Who's this?
This is Gene Miller from Swiss American Trading.
Hello, Gene.
That's who I hoped it would be.
Gene is here, folks, to give us a rundown on what's happening in the precious metal markets For all of you out there who are interested, and he's going to be doing this regularly, five past the hour, every single Monday night.
Gene, what have you got for us tonight?
Well, a couple, three things I wanted to just briefly update.
This is something I hope that your listeners will definitely take advantage of.
One of the problems that most people, the mistake they make is they chase the market.
Like the stock market right now, they're chasing it at the tune of $10 billion a month.
Great hook, isn't it?
Yeah, and when they pull the rug out from underneath it, they're going to be devastated, absolutely devastated.
And the same mistake often happens in the gold market.
People will chase it.
And you should buy low and sell high.
And many of our listeners are never going to sell.
They're going to use it for down the road, for protection, and so on and so forth.
But they want to buy it at the best price possible.
And I guess the point I'm making, back in mid-July, gold had reached up at about $407 an ounce.
At that time, we were having phenomenal weeks in sales, and people were calling in like crazy because they were chasing the market, like 90% of the people normally do.
But now that gold's pulled back $40, you can't hardly give it away, where it should just be the opposite.
Gold has pulled back down to about the mid $360 range, and in a market such as what we're in, we're going to see five steps up and three steps down, five steps up and three steps down.
And when you see these pullbacks, Those are the times that you need to take advantage of the market and buy in.
It's like, you know, having a sale.
If you can at all, you know, correlate, you don't buy anything at full price.
Buy it on sale and that's what we got right now.
This is an opportunity to get in and buy in at a good price, probably as low as you're going to see it.
How many times have we seen, Gene, people wait until gold starts going up and then they all rush down and in the process when the gold is Well, it's just a, they call it a herd mentality, and people will watch the market, they're scared to get off the fence, and they sit there and watch it, and they suddenly see it after several months, after several moves, they think, man, this is really doing something, I better get in, but they don't realize they've missed
You know, probably 50% or 75% of the market.
That's right.
And what happens, and it's unfortunate, and I'm hoping that your listening audience will give credence to this and pay heed, is that 25% of the people do good in any market.
The rest of them either break even or lose money.
And the whole point is we don't want your audience to lose money.
We want them to do well in this market, to get it at the cheapest possible price.
One of the other things I want to talk to your audience about is a thing that you know what we're trying to accomplish with our with your audience is to get them as much gold as possible for the cheapest possible price so that when everything else fails which we know that's eventually going to fail that they're going to have some money in their pocket real money some gold some silver that's going to have its lasting value and to have as much of it as possible and I want to propose a question out there and
I don't have them because this would take too long to get into detail here tonight, but if I could show you a way that you could own twice as much gold for the same amount of money, would it be worth your while to check it out?
In other words, right now if $10,000 would buy you 20, 25 ounces of gold, if I could
show you how you could take $10,000 and get you 40 to 50 ounces of gold, would that be
worth your while?
I can do that.
I can show you how that's done.
It's called ratio trading and if you'll call me tomorrow I'll explain it in detail how you can take X amount of dollars now and invest it in the market and trade it off later on when the ratio spreads apart to a 5 to 1 ratio.
Right now it's currently at a 2 to 1 ratio and then you thus trade it in and you end up owning twice as much gold for not spending a dime more.
Well, that certainly sounds attractive to me.
Now, when you said $10,000, you just used that as an example.
There's no minimum.
There's no maximum as far as the market.
You know, I showed one of your listening audience just last week and showed him how he could take his investment money, invest it now, down the road, we will trade it off, and we will put him into what he really wanted in the first place, and we'll end up getting him probably twice as much for it.
Fantastic!
For those of you out there listening, call Gene Miller tomorrow or you can do it tonight.
Like I say, it would take me a long time to explain it in detail, but I'll be glad to
sit down with your clients tomorrow or some of the other brokers could sit down and we'll
explain it in detail and show them how it's done.
Fantastic.
For those of you out there listening, call Gene Miller tomorrow or you can do it tonight.
Leave him a message on the machine and say you want to talk to Gene Miller and he'll
get back to you tomorrow.
Or you can wait until tomorrow and talk to him personally.
And the number is 1-800-289-2646.
That's 1-800-289-2646.
Anything you'd like to say in closing, Gene?
Well, I have two newsletters that we just recently put out.
One is called The Right to Own Gold.
We've been advertising that for some time.
It's a must article.
You need to get it whether you buy gold from us or you buy it from somebody.
You need to own this, get this article, and read it.
Don't just throw it on the coffee table, but take some time to read it.
Another article that we just put out, a newsletter, It's called How to Stop the New World Order.
Both of them in very, very important articles.
Call in tomorrow.
We'll get you one out right away.
And last but not least, do something.
Get off the fence.
Quit supporting this New World Order.
Quit putting your money into this system that's ultimately going to take your money and do something.
Do something that's going to protect you, going to protect your family, protect your right of freedom.
There's several brokers there that will be glad to help you if I'm not available.
I'll be in the office, but if I'm busy, there's others that will help you, but please call in.
We'll be glad to sit down and explain anything or answer any of your questions and help you out any way possible.
Thank you, Gene.
And folks, that's going to be a regular service of Swiss America Training every Monday night at about 5 past the hour.
Gene Miller will be here.
To give us an update and a little bit of advice and tell us how gold and silver is performing.
By the way, was the London market open today?
No, it wasn't.
This was the, with it being a holiday, the market was closed.
Well, I knew it was the holiday here, but I didn't know where else it was a holiday.
Thank you very much, Gene, and folks, get ready because we're going to have fun tonight.
Tonight's going to be open phone.
We're going to talk about anything that you want to talk about for the remainder of the hour.
So, get ready.
Write down your questions.
Make them short and sweet.
If you don't have a question, you want to say something, it's your chance.
It's your chance to make an impression on the world.
To make people think about something.
To create ideas.
To direct change.
To do the things that we need to do.
So, get ready.
Write down your questions or your comments so that you won't stammer on the phone.
Remember, when you call in, turn your radio off.
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Oh, I bet you wonder how I knew About your plan to make you do.
But from all the facts I knew before You were the guy you know I loved the most.
And it's by the power of a plan When I found out yesterday.
Oh, I paid it to the great guy And I'm not gonna let you be mine.
Oh, I paid it to the great guy And I'm just about to lose my mind.
Honey, honey, yeah.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Yes, hello Mr. Cooper.
It's really great to be able to talk to you.
I'm a recent listener but I read your book some time ago and I actually heard you speak at a symposium in LA about a year ago.
My question has to do with a section of your book that I wish I had it right in front of me where I could give you the page number but I've loaned it out to someone.
A statement, a question that you pose in the book about the possibility of an alien influence on religion in the world historically.
And you basically, as I recall, in the book you say, you know, that is an unanswered question.
You're not really even sure yourself about it.
If that's still the case or just to get your views on it very quickly.
Be happy to.
You know a lot of people read my book but my book it seems to be the kind of book that people like to read selectively.
I wrote it to shock people and wake them up and I put a lot of things in there that were intended to do just that.
And it's a book that must be read from beginning cover to the end cover without skipping around.
At the beginning of the chapter that you're talking about, I specifically state that that entire chapter is a hypothesis based upon all the evidence that researchers and people who have looked into the UFO question and all of the papers and documents that have been leaked from the United States government.
Remember, I've told you before on this program, there's no such thing as a leak.
Anything that comes out of the intelligence community is intentional.
It's an old ploy to manipulate populations and governments and make foreign military commanders believe that you have things deployed in one way when they're actually not, and all kinds of things.
And you've got to remember that this alien question is a perfect cover for a super-secret technology that we may have developed ourselves.
At the end of that chapter, I listed five possible conclusions based upon the information contained in that chapter.
And I must say, in all honesty also, that it was based upon top-secret documents that I saw as a member of the Office of Naval Intelligence, which I've since come to believe were disinformation and that I was used, which made me very angry when I finally began to realize that after researching and finding that there had been a plan going all the way back to before 1917 to create an artificial enemy from space to bring about a one-world government.
As they were planning the evolution of the League of Nations into the United Nations into a world government.
What I wrote about the alien influence on religion is information that I saw in those top-secret documents and also information that's been leaked out and been written about by many, many other people.
And in the New Age movement, you will find many, many books written alluding to the fact that man was the creation of an alien being from some other planet.
Now, if you get into the doctrine of the Mormon Church, you'll find the same thing there.
That we were created by somebody named Elohim, who was an extraterrestrial from a planet named Caleb, I believe.
And all of this you can find by reading a book called The God Makers.
So this is prevalent.
And what I said at the end of that chapter, in conclusion number five, was that I believe that it's the biggest hoax ever created.
in the history of the world to create an enemy from outside this earth so that all the national
barriers would be dropped and mankind would be willing to come together in a one world
government.
So your contention at this point, I didn't really see it as really coming through as
strong as you're saying it now.
Well the chapter was written as if all of this were true.
And at the beginning of the chapter I stated that if all of these documents and all this
research and all the documents that I saw when I was in naval intelligence is true,
then this chapter is probably the greatest truth that's ever been written about the UFO
and alien question.
If it's not the truth, if all these documents and this research is not the truth, then this is what the elite want us to believe about aliens.
So your contention at this point is that Any information that we have in this arena is essentially disinformation.
Well, I can't say that because I don't really know if extraterrestrials are real or not.
But I can prove that there's been a plan going back to way before 1917 to create this enemy, whether it's real or not, in order to force mankind into accepting a world government.
I can also prove that at least some of these things we call UFOs are machines, are owned and flown by secret agencies of the United States government out of a top secret test site called Groom Dry Lake or Area 51 in the state of Nevada.
And I put together about an hour and 41 minute documentary where you can actually see these things fly.
I filmed them.
It's no secret in night and daytime.
And I guess that film is available through your Yeah, if you'll send a self-addressed stamped envelope and one dollar, send a business size envelope, we'll send you a packet of information with everything that we have.
Well, okay Bill, I appreciate your time and good work.
I know it's, I don't know, your rewards for this, the praise you get from the people that follow your program and have read your book.
I sure hope that that helps out in some of the times that you have to, I'm sure, wonder whether what you're doing is worth the amount of effort and the amount of time you have to take away from your family.
Well, boys, I'll tell you, sometimes I wonder about it myself, but then I look at my little daughter, and the only reason I do this is for my daughter.
I've got to tell you that right now.
I don't want her to live in slavery, and unless we wake up and direct the course of the future of the world, that's exactly what's going to happen to her.
We all really appreciate it.
There's different levels of participation.
You're right out there on the front lines with this program and the books you write.
There's a lot of people out there that are just listening at this point, not really doing too much.
I might be one of them.
But I realize that there's going to be action and responsibility and that everybody that Well, at this point, I have to tell you quite honestly that everything is in place.
to sheeple and to, as you put it, and to, you know, a real participant in preventing,
I guess is the best way we can consider preventing this one world government.
Well, at this point, at this point, I have to tell you quite honestly that everything
is in place.
I don't believe that we're going to prevent it, but I think we can direct it away from
the course that it will take if we don't wake up and become active.
We could make it a good future regardless.
Change is inevitable.
There's no way we can stop change.
Change is going to occur.
But the change that is happening now was set in motion during World War II and before.
It actually began way back at the beginning of this century.
And everything over the years has been slowly put into place.
They have slowly put their people into place.
And we're going to have tremendous change.
The kind of change we're going to have and how badly we're affected is going to depend upon how many of us become active in this and how far we're willing to let it go.
I've been trying to tell everybody for over a year now, that's what this show is all about.
Yeah, well, let me ask you this, then.
If you believe that there's really no stemming this tide, what is the best that we can expect?
Well, it depends upon how active all of us wish to be.
If everybody sits in their homes and say, oh, we'll let Bill take care of it, or we'll let Joe take care of it, or we'll let Susie take care of it, or we'll let DV Kid take care of it, then you can expect the worst, my friend.
Well, I'll leave you on that note.
Thank you for calling.
Yes, sir.
Good night.
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602-333-2174.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Bill, on the pyramid structure of the Mystery Babylon, the powers that are in control now,
can you tell us at the top of the pyramid how many people are involved and where they
are located?
Would this be in the Master Lodge in Switzerland or what?
Well, according to my research, the people who control at least the branch that is most
prevalent in this country, and that's Freemasonry, is right in Washington, D.C., which is the
Supreme Council.
Now, in all of the Mystery Schools, there's the legend of the Nine Unknown of the Nine Hidden Supervisors, and when you get up there, You can't go any further.
You can't identify those people, and I'm not sure that anybody can.
They may not even exist.
We know that most of the influence of the direction of the way the world is going stems from the United States and London.
There is no doubt about that whatsoever.
The power, the money, is in the United States and it's in London.
When you start to look for people who are calling the shots, you find a whole bunch of Europeans that no American's ever heard of, and they mainly participate in a lodge in Italy called P2.
They are members of the Club of Rome.
They are members of the Bilderberg Group.
When people say, for instance, I read an article in Criminal Politics not too long ago that Henry Kissinger ordered our troops into Somalia and stuff like that, it's baloney.
It's total bull.
I read these books about the committee of 300.
Committees are only effective in direct proportion to the number of members on the committee.
The more members, the less effective.
There's no such thing as a committee of 300 that could sit down and agree on anything.
So you have to be very careful what you read and what you listen to.
Okay, thank you.
You're welcome.
Thank you for calling.
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Hi, how you doing?
I've been listening to your show since I think I went on the air.
I was listening way up in the northeastern part of Canada.
That was in May 1992, May the 4th I believe.
What can I do for you?
I'm going to be in the Northeastern part of Canada. That was in May 1992, May the 4th I believe. What can I do for
you? I'm actually interested in getting your book. You can write to us if you already are sure that you want the books.
And, uh, are you a CAGI member?
No, I'm not.
Then, uh, send $30 to William Cooper, Post Office Box 1420.
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It's spelled exactly like it sounds.
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8-5-9-0-1 is the zip, yeah.
Okay, I want to, first of all, I've been listening to your show and The guests you have on, and the people you interview, and just the information in general, I just find it to be astounding, simply because you don't seem to come across it anywhere else, unless you start digging.
Once I actually started listening to your show, and I started reading a lot of different material on myself, I was able to confirm a lot of what you were saying.
Anybody who wants to look can find it all.
It's not hidden at all anymore.
In fact, you could even say it's not even a conspiracy anymore.
Well, I was never big on conspiracy theories.
People who tend to think something secretive is a conspiracy, but you are right in saying that a lot of it is out in the open.
That's right.
It began in secret, and for many, many years, centuries even, it was a conspiracy.
But now it is no longer hidden.
It's right out in the open.
Anybody who cares to look can find it.
The last question I have is, sometimes I have problems picking up your station.
I get it on the short way.
I'm curious.
Is that just because of atmospheric conditions?
Or is there actually some jamming?
Well, sometimes it's what they call propagation of atmospheric conditions.
Sometimes, yes, it really is jamming.
And they even burned the station down once to shut us up.
And occasionally they have mechanical or electronic difficulties and the station or this transmitter has to go down for a little while for repairs.
Actually, tonight is one of those nights.
So it's a little of all of the above, depending on what we're talking about and what's happening and how old the equipment is and all that kind of stuff.
Anyway, just keep up what you're doing.
I've actually got my brotherhood now listening to you now, and I'm slowly getting other people into listening.
Fantastic.
It starts with just listening.
If I can get them just to listen, then I can get them on to doing other things.
Well, the hardest thing to do is to get people to listen.
Once they listen, then the hardest thing to do is get them to understand.
Once they understand, then you've got to get them to act.
And that's probably the most difficult of all.
But we all have to wake up and then we all must act.
And we all must act in concert together.
Without violence?
Because I'm going to tell you right now, this whole thing is being spurred toward creating an act of violence by the American people to justify clamping us down.
You understand that, don't you?
Yes.
Okay.
Thank you for calling.
You're welcome.
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333-2174 and you're on the air. Thank you. I'm on the air Bill.
Yes, you are.
I got right through several brief things.
First, Bill, congratulations on the flying program.
This is Bob in New Jersey.
I've been following you for about the last year.
Wonderful program.
Well, thank you.
Second item, concerning Mr. Gene Miller, who you had on last week.
I called Gene the following day.
And I also want to share my comments with you.
I told Gene this is the most refreshing program, the most refreshing hour on finance that I have ever heard.
You know what Gene did, Bill?
He did that entire program with you.
He told about why people should have some medals as part of their holdings.
Never once in that entire program did he make any prediction About gold is going to do this or that or silver is going to do this or that you know in the next six months or the next year.
Sure.
And you know it just really struck me after the program was over.
Never once did the guy make a prediction.
And I had to tell Gene and I had to tell you.
Well these are great people you know.
A lot of people wanted to sponsor this show and I went without a sponsor for a long long time.
And we thoroughly investigated Swiss America Trading.
In fact it took us so long to investigate them.
That they were really wondering what was wrong, and when we finally agreed to take them on as a sponsor, it was because of the kind of people they are and that they back up their word.
Yes, and just to keep you quiet, I figure you're going to have me mourn for a few minutes every Monday evening.
Now Bill, if I can get through my main question of the three.
Sure.
I often thought I would love to have the personal opportunity of asking you this question.
Most of your twenty-eight programs on the Mystery Schools.
Not all of them, certainly, because you only had nine years.
Back in a period of about 1958 to 1970 or 72, I was a member of one of the organizations headquartered in San Jose, California.
The Ancient Mystical Order Rosicrucius.
Uh-huh.
I knew that when you said it to me the other day.
Certainly.
Now, what I wanted to ask you, Bill, they always told us in the teachings that we had, the manuscripts that I get every two weeks or so, they always told us that that Rosicrucian order mnemonic was not affiliated with any other Rosicrucian order.
In all the programs that I heard you do about the mystery schools, I never once heard you refer anything whatsoever to the particular order that I belong to.
That's correct.
Okay.
Is their record as clean as they wanted me to think it is?
Because I never found anything in the 12-13 years that I was a member, anything having
to do with the Illuminati or whatever that you refer to.
I never found anything what I would label subversive in their teachings.
Well, you have to be very careful about what you mean by subversive.
In many cases, the teachings themselves are subversive.
And you have to go through and be able to identify the mystery religion and what it really means.
What they're teaching, even though they are the AMORC, is the Luciferian philosophy.
If you believe in that and you want to follow it, I believe in the Constitution.
You have a right to do that, but you also have to have a right to know what it is, and they don't tell you what it is.
And that's the purpose of this show, and I hope you're becoming educated in that way.
But the AMORC is not the same Rose Cross order that I have spoken about on this program.
Yes, okay, that was my conclusion and that's the way I always felt, but I just wanted to
check it out with you personally.
In fact, the Rose Cross...
...be able to do away with AMORC because they consider them to be a great imposter and that
they've corrupted the teachings and all this kind of stuff.
They're all full of crap, if you know what I mean.
And there are no big secrets except those at the top have learned the secret of how
to control all the other ones at the bottom who are clamoring after the secret that they'll
never learn.
I have sat down with countless numbers of 32nd degree and 33rd degree Freemasons and
asked them about these great secrets that they're supposed to learn as they climb up
through this ladder of initiation and not one of them could ever tell me anything that
I didn't already know.
Yes, and you have to be a strong person and put it together for yourself.
That's right.
Just use these things as a guide.
That's correct.
Bill, again, I appreciate it.
I won't take any more of your time because I'm sure there's hundreds of other people
waiting to get on.
Thank you for calling.
Keep up the good work.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
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Hi Bill, just four quick things.
I used to really think for the people was great, but I'm beginning to see that they're not, and I went on the air a few weeks ago and talked to Chuck Hodder, and he said that he, his dad used to be a mason, and that he's friends with masons, and he was trying to convince me that they're harmless.
So needless to say, I don't, uh...
Whenever you hear that talk, you're talking to one.
What?
Whenever you hear that talk, you're talking to one.
Oh, crap.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
So I don't listen to them anymore.
Somebody who's not a Freemason has no big interest in standing up and defending them.
Yep.
Only a Freemason has that interest.
If you'll read Chuck Carter's newspaper for the people, you'll find that he's promoting
the alien threat from outer space, and he's promoting it big time.
Not only big time, but fraudulently.
Hoagland used to be his science advisor until Hoagland found out that he was misrepresenting a whole bunch of stuff to the American people, and he told Chuck Harter to take a hike.
Okay.
Also, too, Ray, you were mentioning about guns and them trying to get us to take all of our guns away.
I don't own a gun, and I don't think I ever would.
But I don't deny people their rights for guns for protection and for hunting and stuff like that.
But I saw something weird a couple of weeks ago on TV.
This couple were getting married in Massachusetts and they had requested instead of shower gifts to have people help to turn in guns and donate money to an agency called Citizens for Safety in Boston to collect people's guns.
Which I always thought was a kind of strange request from a couple that were getting married.
Well, not really.
Some people really believe that man can live together in absolute peace and that no one will ever threaten them and that the government will always bestow great gifts and benefits upon them and can never become oppressive.
There are people out there who really believe this BS.
They don't understand that the fault in the world is within each and every human being.
An imperfect man, ruling imperfect man, will always move toward despotism.
It's the natural course of governments throughout history.
And if you look, you can see it before your very face.
Okay, two quick things.
I don't know if you're really familiar with the old Sod Track, but if you are, they had
some guy that was supposed to be before Captain Kirk by the name of Albert Pike.
That's right.
And I was wondering if that ties in.
Yes, in fact it's the exact same name.
If you watch the Star Trek... Spock, I guess he's supposed to be like... I don't know if he is and all... No, Spock is the new man.
It's the intellect finally conquering the animal in man.
It's the new super root race.
That's what Spock represents.
Lucifer, right?
No, not necessarily Lucifer.
You have to understand that these people don't really believe in a devil or a god.
They believe that man himself is God.
They believe in a pantheism.
Everything is hooked together.
Everything is God.
Do you understand that philosophy?
Yeah, I know.
I've been listening to you now for a few months and I think I only missed like two, maybe three shows of the twenty-eight about the mystery of Babylon.
That's what first got me into listening to your program.
I was like stone-bound listening to all that stuff.
Star Trek is nothing more than a series of lessons in the mysteries.
And if you understand the symbolism of the mysteries and the stories of the ancient gods, and you watch Star Trek, you will be amazed at what children and people are being indoctrinated into.
Right, I remember one that they were showing Apollo and all that.
And look at the last series of six movies, and you will see from the beginning to the end where it's going.
Then go back and watch 2001 and then 2010 and your education will be complete.
You won't need the hour or the time.
And the last thing having to do with movies and stuff like that, have you seen any ads
for a movie called Fortress?
No, I haven't.
Okay, I don't know if it's any good or not, but it basically shows what you could call
the end times and it shows like putting a computer bar on like people's arms and then
you're like, oh, I'm going to watch Fortress.
I'm going to watch Fortress.
and forcing people to bow down to the New World Order.
So if you might want to check out a movie called Fortress.
I'm not promoting it and I wanted to go see it but it's not in my area yet.
But it does have to deal with taking over people, the final phases by force.
The key to whether the movie is significant or not is the symbology in the movie.
If it's from the mysteries, it will be full of the symbology and it will be talking to the other initiates.
It won't be talking to us unless you have the education that I have and that many of the listeners have gained through listening to this show, and some of them on their own.
That's the key.
It's not in what this movie is about.
There's a lot of movies about stuff like that.
Bill, if you can, can you try to get some background on that movie and let us know if we, you know, maybe you should check it out or if it's just garbage?
Well, I'll look for it.
But one company that you can always count on to be preparing the public for the New World Order is Osiris Films.
Remember, Intruders was produced by Osiris Films.
There's a movie on HBO now which is an anti-gun movie called Strapped.
About the little kids in the black ghetto who are pulled into the gun thing and they're killing each other.
And HBO follows that immediately with a People Magazine segment on guns in schools.
And that's produced by Osiris Films.
And if you listen to the Mystery Series, you know who Osiris is and what it means.
Yep.
I look for symbols of pyramids, the rising sun, the eye.
There's probably not really anything good on TV or in movies.
There is absolutely nothing good on television anywhere.
Or movies.
That's correct.
Many, many years ago they had a big meeting of all the people who own Hollywood and they sat down and I have one of 500 books that were printed and it's the papers that were delivered to that organization and it was how not to reflect I love the show, Bill.
but how to direct society with the movies.
And the name of the book is Thought Control in America.
There were only 500 printed, and they were for the delegates of the movie studios who attended that meeting.
So that should tell you something. Thank you for calling.
Okay, love the show, Bill. Keep up.
Thank you.
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Hi Tom, how are you?
This is Bill.
I beg your pardon Bill, my mistake.
Listen, I've been trying to get through your book here and I'm finding myself rereading chapters.
Good.
And it's making me very angry and I wanted to thank you so very much.
Well, I'm glad that you are rereading.
Many people go through and it's a very difficult book to grasp the significance And you know I learned somewhere that we only retain about 10% of what we read or hear the first time we read or hear it.
And you know after I wrote the book I had to go through and read it myself.
There's that much information in it.
There is quite a bit of information.
Very good.
I did order it from a local bookstore but it wasn't one of the major chains.
They didn't have to order it for me but I got it and I'm enjoying it immensely.
Well something's happening and I don't understand really what.
People are writing me and calling me now telling me that they're finding my book in major bookstores now and that's never happened before.
Now either the requests are coming up enough that it's being made available or else they're going to use it as a disinformation ploy.
One or the other.
Perhaps.
I don't know.
At any rate, the reason I called, could you please tell me where I might get a list of executive orders that have been signed by the last couple presidents?
Absolutely.
Any major library in any big city or any major university.
Okay.
Library.
Okay.
Also, are you aware of anywhere in the world where they're actually barcoding individuals yet?
I know they're doing it to some animals.
No, I don't.
But I do know that North Korea is implanting their soldiers with a microchip under their skin in inoculations.
Right.
Like they did in the dogs on the... Right.
I did a ride.
That's correct.
Could you tell me, do you know what protection Linda Thompson might have from political imprisonment or personal injury?
I feel like she's at great risk.
Well, not really.
The only risk you have is if you try to hide.
You see, the only thing that keeps me safe is my book and this TV show.
I mean, this radio show.
Right.
Well, that was actually my girlfriend's question, and the one thing that I did mention was just that in that if she disappears, people are going to be wondering.
That's exactly what keeps her safe.
And also, if you would, finally, please, could you give me some overview on this Fairness Doctrine and how it might affect my ability to hear your show?
Well, if you all don't contact your congressman and tell him you're going to throw them in the Pacific Ocean with 500 pounds of cement on their legs if they pass that thing, what it means is every time I say something, whoever opposes that view will have a right to make me allow them on the show for the same amount of time to give their viewpoint.
Well, it certainly is not free speech, and it's designed to confuse the issue, and that's what they do on television.
If you'll notice, on television, every single time they have one, they have someone who has a story to tell, they have someone sitting behind them to tell you it's not true.
Right, even the President.
That's correct.
And that is what keeps Americans totally confused.
Right.
They don't understand what's going on.
You get disinformation from both sides.
That's right.
On this show, what you get is what we believe to be true.
I don't claim that everything that I give you people is absolutely true because I'm a human being just like you and I'm bound to make mistakes sooner or later.
Right.
That's one thing that causes me to believe it.
And another thing that I make sure that I do is tell you don't believe what I'm telling you even if I know on my mother's grave that it's true.
Don't believe it until you go out and check it out yourself and at the same time don't believe anybody else in this world either.
It's for your own benefit.
So in that sense I believe that you're getting equal time on this show.
Because I'm telling you, hey, don't believe what I tell you.
If you believe what I tell you blindly without checking it out, you're a fool.
I'm not God.
Don't put me on a pedestal.
I'm not a hero.
In fact, the minute you put me on a pedestal, I guarantee you I'll fall off because I'm one of the most human human beings that you'll ever meet.
I love life.
And like I said, there's nobody perfect in this world.
Not me, not anybody.
The minute you believe in White Knights in shining armor on a brilliant horse that's
going to come up and save you. That's the minute you've enslaved yourself
Well heaven forbid any of us should think that we're illuminated
And thank you very much sir. Mr. Cooper. I appreciate very much your all your efforts. Thank you for calling my
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Hello Uh huh.
I uh, I really enjoy your show.
You know what I need you to do is put your mouth directly in front of your telephone and talk a little louder.
Okay.
Does that sound better?
That's a little better, yeah.
I've got a couple questions.
I'll try to make it quick.
What's your feelings on the work of Eustace Mullins?
Well, I think Eustace Mullins has written a whole bunch of books that have an awful lot of useful information, but like anything else, you must check it out for yourself.
Just like my book.
I don't want you to read my book and believe it blindly.
I wrote that book to wake you up and make you go try to prove me wrong.
And in proving me wrong, you'll begin to find out what the truth is.
And you should do the same with Eustace Mullins or anyone else.
I get the feeling that people want me to tell them what books they should read to get the truth.
And that's not what you should do.
You should read everything.
You should listen to everyone.
Then you should investigate and determine the truth for yourself.
And if it's really the truth, we will all arrive at the same truth.
And we won't need leaders.
We won't need Trojan horses.
We won't have to wonder if the organization we belong to is good or not good.
We won't have to wonder if the person leading us is on our side or not.
Because we'll really be dealing with the real truth.
And we'll be strong.
No, they're not.
It's all in the public domain, and anyone who wants to look and work a little bit can check it out.
This thing I wanted to ask you about was, I saw that Linda, at the Waco tape, I saw her speak, and she spoke about Wackenhut.
Yes.
And what can you add to that?
Wackenhut is a nefarious organization, to say the least.
Uh, which is mainly made up of ex-FBI, ex-intelligence officers, ex-military officers, uh, ex-special forces people who, uh, contract to do things, um, and they get the contracts because they've all had security clearances and things.
They're easy to clear.
But the problem with that is, is that they all come from these different organizations which are involved in bringing about the New World Order and subverting the nation from within.
They're heavy, heavy-duty guys that have been involved in some pretty shady things.
The last thing I want to ask you about tonight is years ago I read about this extreme low
frequency.
You've got to talk a lot louder.
About this extreme low frequency radiation, about affecting the jet stream and changing
the weather.
I haven't heard anything more about this in a while.
What do you know about this?
Well, in the first place, I don't know anything about anything changing the weather except
that back in the 50s, actually the late 40s, all through the decade of the 50s and the early
60s, the different agencies of the government were, and specifically the intelligence agencies
and the Air Force, were experimenting with controlling the weather.
When they reached a certain point in their success ratio, they drew the curtain of national security and all of the research and technology disappeared behind that curtain and nobody knows how successful they've been or just what their capabilities are.
But I guarantee you when they pull that curtain, their capabilities are becoming usually pretty good.
So that's all I can tell you.
OK Bill, I'd appreciate it if you'd talk with me and we'll catch again some other time.
Thank you for calling.
Good night.
Good night.
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The whole world is listening to you.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Oh, good evening, Mr. Cooper.
Pleasure to talk to you.
I've been going through some of the books that you gave a bibliography a few months
back.
A number of recommended books, and I've been working my way through it.
And I was interested to hear your opinion on the four books by Michael Page and Lee
Anything you might have to say on those books?
I think that their books are a goldmine of information.
They're also a goldmine of how to get trapped in a cul-de-sac.
It's also a good way to get trapped in a cul-de-sac.
In other words, don't go off chasing the rabbit down the hole.
Stick to what you're looking for.
And what we're looking for is to identify the enemy.
If you get wrapped up in all of this other stuff, if you get lost in dogma or if you're
chasing something to prove a point in your religion, you're lost.
You have to be looking for the truth and only the truth, no matter who it hurts or helps,
even if it hurts you.
That's the best advice I can give you.
That's the advice I try to follow.
I had a gentleman, actually it was someone I went to high school with, come into my place of business, and striking up a conversation, it turns out he's a 32nd degree mason, and he informed me that, we got to talking about books, that the gentleman who wrote Born in Blood, Intention of Fire and Sword, John Russell, John Robison, became a mason after writing Yeah, they had to shut him up.
They had to get him to take those oaths.
He was opening the doors and the only way to get him to shut up is either kill him or get him to take the oaths.
But he wrote those books.
They couldn't kill him.
Everybody in the world would have known who did it.
So they made him an offer he couldn't refuse, I would imagine.
You know, I'm just guessing, but that's how you shut somebody up.
I've been approached by these people, too, trying to get me to come down to the lodge and look at their library and see that they're not really what I think they are.
And I just have to look them in the eye and say, you know, either you're one of the sheeple down at the bottom slathering after the secrets and you haven't discovered what's really going on yet, or you're one of the biggest liars that I've ever met.
And they give me this kind of guilty look and slink away with their tail between their legs because I know what's going on.
And so I'm not prone to being fooled.
And I don't have a price like some people do.
Yeah.
See, my price is my daughter.
And they don't have her.
I've got her.
Well, I have a young daughter also and I feel the same way.
Yeah.
One last thing and I'll let you go.
One thing I've noticed in watching TV, and that is the commercial for, I guess, Dodge
or Dodge Trucks.
Have you happened to notice the symbol of the Ram?
Oh yeah, of course.
The first time I could see it on TV.
The new logo they use.
Dodge Trucks is the symbol of the Ram.
That's the Goat of Indies.
Right.
You'll also see the Chrysler is the Pentagram with the five pointed stars.
All these are symbols of the occult, the mystery schools.
It's just that the new logo that they use is even more, to me anyway, jumps right out
It seems more obvious.
You're going to see more and more and more.
You think Mazda is an innocent name?
Go back and look up the ancient gods.
See who Mazda was.
Stop walking around with your head in the clouds.
And I'm not speaking to you personally.
I'm speaking to all the sheeple out there.
Right.
Okay.
Thank you very much for your time.
You're welcome.
Thank you for calling.
Most of these corporate names aren't chosen at random out of the air.
They have meaning.
They mean something to the people who run the corporation.
And many times you can figure out who these people are and what they're about by the symbology that they use.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Yes, good evening, Bill.
One of the things that I've noticed lately is that we've lost the government and President Clinton here has become a dictator, number one.
Number two, the Congress was forced to push that tax bill through.
This is really a great thing because time ran out.
Congress was not forced to do anything.
They put it through because they wanted to put it through.
They have to make it look like it's against their will.
Did you know the CAGI members predicted that exact vote?
Uh-huh.
I figured as much.
And did we also hear that Mikhail Gorbachev is now living in the United States in San Francisco?
Well, I don't know if he's living there, but he certainly has facilities at the Presidio in San Francisco, which used to be an army base.
Right, right.
That's absolute fact, and you can stop listening to what people tell you, get a San Francisco phone book from your library, and look it up.
He's right in there, right in the phone book.
Okay, well, you know, I'm getting more and more scared the more that I see here.
You know, it's getting worse and worse, and the handwriting on the wall is...
Not written with invisible ink anymore.
Well, don't get scared.
That's how they control you.
Yeah, well, this is it, you know.
Don't be afraid.
You have to realize what you have to do.
If you're doing the right thing, you will be taken care of no matter what, either in this life or the life after.
Okay.
Well, it was good talking to you.
I'm sure so.
We'll catch you again, maybe.
Thank you for calling.
Bye.
Okay, got time for about one more caller.
602-333-2174 and you're on the air.
Hello, Mr. Cooper.
Hello.
This is John from Worcester, Massachusetts.
Hi, John.
Hi.
I love your show.
I've been listening since you started on WCI last year.
What's the answer to answer a couple questions posed earlier by callers?
The group in Boston, according to the Boston station, they collected about 1,200 guns.
Uh, let's see.
And then Terry Cook was a guest on Brother Stare's show a while back, and he says that they've been planting these ships in people in Thailand.
And, uh, let's see.
Well, why I called is, um... Now, I don't have a VCR or anything.
I don't have any of your films.
But, uh, regarding the Kennedy shooting, Uh, do you know your sources well enough?
Uh, have you ruled out, uh, a possibility of them having doctored that film using, uh, high-resolution interpolation software?
Boy, where have you been?
I've proven they doctored the film.
No, I know they doctored it, but I mean, uh, they could have inserted those extra, extra frames.
No.
Uh, Logan.
No.
No.
No?
No.
Well, that's the real film, but the film has been doctored in many, many places, and that's what my film, The Sacrificed King, shows you.
It shows you all the occult significance of Dealey Plaza and the wounds that Kennedy suffered in the whole works.
But if the driver had turned and shot, did I hear correctly?
Did you say that, please?
I said that I saw in top-secret documents while I was with the Office of Naval Intelligence that the driver was the one who administered the head wound.
I looked for years for a film that would show it.
I finally found a film that appeared to show it, and I believe that that's what it was showing.
Now that I managed to get a first-generation copy on 35mm of the Zepp-Ruder film, I have been able to prove that the film has been extensively doctored, and in the area of the front seat, everything has been doctored, and you can't tell if William Greer actually shot the President or not.
He either did, and they doctored the film to cover it up, or they doctored the film to make it look like he did, to back up the documents that I saw when I was with the Navy.
If nothing else, Jacqueline would have seen that.
It doesn't make any difference.
The film proves, beyond any shadow of a doubt, a conspiracy, because the film was doctored by the conspirators.
That's the whole point.
But it was only an 8mm film, and using a high-resolution TV, they can Excuse me, I have a degree in photography.
I can see what's been done to that film, and there's no TV involved.
You can't take a film of TV and put it on celluloid and make it look like film.
Can't happen.
Okay.
I got you.
Okay.
Thank you.
The television does not have the resolution that even the poorest film has.
Well folks, that about does it.
Thank you for calling, for the last caller, and I really urge you people to get that film, The Sacrifice King.
And if you can afford it, get the Atlanta lecture video, because that tells the whole story.
It's over seven hours in length, and it has everything that you ever need to know.
Good night and God bless you all.
But I feel I've got to move.
I'm going, going, I'll be coming home.
I'm going, going, I'll be coming home as long as I can see the light.
That's my begging and kissing you.
Cause I'm bound to drift away.
Oh, I'm gone, gone.
You don't have to put me down.
Don't have to run as long as I live last I'm just a man with a gun in my hand
I'm just a man with a gun in my hand If I've got hell-bent on this bone, then I'm gonna have to
fight it all.
But I won't go my way no more, as long as I see the light Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah
Put a candle in the window But I fear I've got to go.