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May 14, 1993 - Bill Cooper
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Mystery Babylon #20 - William Morgan Interview
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Ladies and gentlemen, you are living in the last days of freedom for the common man.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I am proud to have as my special guest, the President of the
United States of America, William Morgan.
Now, that's all that we can tell you about his identity.
You will hear from him his own story, what he's been doing, how he's been doing it, what kind of information he has collected for Our organization for the citizens of this country and of the world, and we're going to talk about, well, I guess you'd just have to call it undercover operations.
This man has been undercover for the Citizens Agency for Joint Intelligence, and I remember several episodes of the show before, sometime during the series that we call The Mystery Schools, which we've done, I believe, nineteen hours of broadcasting covering that subject.
I told you that we had infiltrated the Lodge, the Mystery Schools, Mystery Babylon.
In fact, we have not only infiltrated it once, but many times in this country and in Lodges around the world.
So, the information that we're giving you on the Mystery Schools is not conjecture.
It does not come from a bunch of people sitting around making up information.
It comes from the books printed by the Mystery Schools themselves.
It comes from our members who are actually in the Lodge, and we double-check everything that they bring to us.
Please welcome to the Hour of the Time, William Morgan.
Thank you, Bill.
You can call me Will, and I really appreciate that gracious and honorable introduction.
Well, we're certainly appreciative of everything that you've done.
Tell us, Will, how long have you been associated with the Mystery School?
For over two years now.
I became a Mason in June of 1991.
And what happened?
I mean, how did you ever even know about Freemasonry?
Exposed to your information, I was under the impression, as most people are, that they were a philanthropic organization, dealing mostly with charity, or possibly even in some way associated with unions.
And as more Keji members have come to know, that is entirely not the case.
Did you have friends who were Freemasons?
Yes, I worked with somebody who was a Freemason, and I've come to find out that that is usually the most common way that a person is exposed to the craft.
The craft, as they call it.
So, they call it the craft amongst themselves.
This is not something that the public is normally aware of.
What does the craft mean?
What does that term mean?
Well, they consider themselves craftsmen because they're building something.
And there have been many organizations throughout history with the incredible similarities to the present modern cult of Freemasonry.
That's correct.
They've called themselves builders, common scenes.
They've associated with themselves always with the erection of a structure or the building
of something that people just do not understand.
We've come to understand that what they are erecting is the New World Order, and they've
been working on it for thousands and thousands of years.
That's correct.
Now, did your friend or friends try to proselytize you or talk you into joining the Lodge?
No, not at all.
I must admit, I did go to them, and I was not entirely aware of the nature of their organization, or of what was in store for me when I became a member, or a brother, as they call it.
Now, if you had not joined CHAGI, would you still be sort of in the dark about the true meaning of Freemasonry?
Or do the members really learn the truth about the organization during their period of time there?
Had I not joined Keji, I would be as empty-headed and as trusting a sheeple as most of the Freemasons in America and across the world are today.
They are not taught what the craft is about.
They do not question authority at all.
As a rule, and from my personal experience and observation, they obey the rules without questioning and to the letter.
A lot of people out there are going to wonder, and I know that Freemasons are going to bring this up, that if you didn't learn what you now believe that you know about the Mystery Schools in the Lodge, how do you know that what you've learned while you've become a CAGI member, how do you know that that is true?
Well, because I can verify for myself.
I can get up and check the facts and look and look again to verify what is going on about the Mystery Schools.
But for what the Masons claim to be, they have absolutely no proof or evidence or even works of their own hand to prove that they are actually involved in charity work.
Now, when you began to study, you were studying actually from two sources.
You were studying the mystery of religion in the Lodge, actually, and you were studying
what you were learning from the Citizens Agency, from Joint Intelligence, and trying to rectify
the two, or bring the two together and make it fit.
When did you finally decide that what you were learning in the Lodge was really a deception?
The absolute clincher for me, what absolutely decided for me to be some of the shadow of
the doubt, and yes, I had in my suspicions since I had very first become a member, you
don't take a blood oath kneeling before an altar, swearing yourself to secrecy for all
time without the group you're becoming a member of being suspect.
But you did take these blood oaths?
Yes, sir.
I took all of them, and there were many.
And so by the time you reach the degree level that you are at now, you've taken approximately how many oaths?
I don't even recollect.
I know that there were over two dozen oaths before you can even become a Master Mason in a Blue Lodge of Freemasonry, which is a bit like Primary School for Freemasons.
The Blue Lodge is where they are brought in as new members from off the street, and most men who are involved in Masonry for their lifetimes consider the Blue Lodge to be the heart and soul of Masonry, because that is where it all begins, and that is where it all grows from.
But isn't it true that many Masons never advance beyond the third degree and remain in the Blue Lodge forever?
That is absolutely true.
Whether or not they do not choose to go forth or whether they're totally unaware that there is anywhere to go is up to the person or the Mason that's involved.
But many of them stay right where they're at and seem to be content with what they have.
These Master Masons who claim that they know everything about Freemasonry and that they've been a Master Mason for 20 years, do they really know anything?
They know absolutely nothing.
They have been completely deceived from the very first day they entered the Lodge.
They have been lied to regularly about the nature of the craft, the work of the craft, and the charity of the craft.
My own Lodge that I'm a member of considers its charity work for the entire last year to be the donation of $100.
Which is a little more than the dues yearly for three members.
They gave $100 to a needy family, and through these very, very shallow, superficial acts, they consider themselves to be one of the greatest charity and brotherhood organizations ever to walk the face of the earth.
A very recent thorough investigation of the Shriners, who have literally made their reputation
upon the fact that they contribute tremendous amounts of money to charity, but the investigation
disclosed that of all the money they take in, less than three percent actually goes
to any charity.
Were you aware of that?
No, actually I was not.
I'm not a member of the Shrine, but I have been exposed to some of their numbers.
I was hoping that it would at least be a little bit higher than that, because that says bad
things about the Masons who are members of the Shrine.
And as most people know, the Shrine is probably one of the largest quote-unquote charity organizations that there is.
And one of the richest.
But most of the money seems to go back into the Lodge, or to the members, or to the retirement funds, or to the payment of the Lodge officers.
And this is something else people don't realize.
The lodge officers are paid, and they have a retirement fund set aside for them.
Is that true?
Yes, that is true.
Now, this doesn't apply directly to all officers of the lodge.
I, myself, am an officer of the lodge that I was indoctrinated into, a duly elected member.
They operate in that kind of manner with elected officials that serve one-year terms.
But there is an exception to this rule, and that is the secretary and the treasurer.
And the secretary keeps the books, and the treasurer keeps the money.
That points a very big finger as to where the true power in every lodge lies.
Because these two gentlemen who held these offices usually hold them for years and years and years.
And they're not elected.
And they're not accountable.
Is that correct?
They are totally unaccountable.
The treasurer will give a one budget report at a certain time during the year.
And I listened to this report not two months ago.
And if an accountant in the business world attempted to give such a superfluous report to his boss, he would be fired on the spot.
Now, just so our listening audience realizes that you're not just some yahoo who walked in off the street and went through the first degree and they're now on a radio program trying to tell them you know something about Freemasonry, what is the level of your of your status or your degree or how high have you
progressed through the initiatory levels?
It's not exactly something that any thinking individual would like to brag about, but I
have shot like a rocket up the ranks of Freemasonry.
Much like in America today, the Masons like to keep their members busy, busy, busy.
They don't want to give them time to think about what they're doing, and they don't want to give them time to think about where they're going.
They do this by ritual.
All of masonry is tied up in ritual, and you must memorize this ritual, and it is very, very extensive.
Each office has its own whole slew of ritual to remember.
But I worked hard, I've got a good memory, I rose through the ranks, and I'm now a 32nd degree Mason of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, Southern Jurisdiction in the United States of America.
And this is the same branch of Freemasonry that Albert Pike belonged to that created
the Ku Klux Klan, the Benebriths, and the branch off the Benebriths called the ADL,
or Anti-Defamation League.
Is that correct?
Absolutely true.
Albert Pike is considered to be a demigod among Freemasons, and actually a source of light all of his own.
He took the Scottish rite of Freemasonry, which did exist for some time before him, he took it after the Civil War and turned it into what it is today.
Much of the pagan symbology into the degrees that are still used in practice today.
His name is Revered.
I've seen a bigger-than-life-size bust of complete bronze of Albert Pike that was created for $25,000.
Some of that money was mine, by the way.
They treat him next to godhood in the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry.
Were you aware that Albert Pike was in constant communication and in concert with Giuseppe Mazzini in creating, not only creating, but Albert Pike at one time was the sovereign Grand Commander of all Freemasonry in the world and operated in concert with Giuseppe Mazzini in control of what we now know is the world body known as the Illuminati?
The name Mazini is familiar to me, and I have come across it in connection to the Illuminati in my research, but no, I was not personally aware, and this comes as no surprise, because with the exception of my own personal research, most of my information comes from the archives of the lodges I have participated and visited, or from Freemasons themselves, and all information is questionable at best.
Uh, never once, with the exception of one word, have I heard any reference to the Illuminati, and yet my own research points exactly in their direction for the true source of the Masons' power and the reason for their concealment.
But no, I did not know about Mazini.
Do the members of the Lodge consider themselves to be Illuminati?
All of them do, and without even knowing the definition of the term, the true definition of the term, they consider themselves illuminated.
They go around, they have that secret little smile, and they generally talk, no not generally, they always talk down about most of the other people in the world, and I've even heard grown men refer to fellow Americans, brothers, as profane, simply because they had not advanced through the ritual of Freemasonry.
I remember a friend of mine who was a young man who was not a member of the Lodge, but his father was.
And he had a friend who belonged to another family who was not a member of the Lodge, but owned a small business in town.
And his small business was being destroyed by the members of the Lodge, simply because he was not a Freemason, and the business was going to members, or Lodge brothers.
And he asked his father why his friend's family was literally being destroyed.
by his father and others who profess to be members of a paternal organization existing for the benefit of the community.
And his father told him, and I'll never forget this because it literally crushed my friend, his father told him this, quote, If you are not one of us, you are nothing, unquote.
Is this generally true?
Is this the way Freemasons generally think about people who do not belong to their organization?
I have personally seen masonry interfere with family ties before, and yes, this is just how they look at the world.
They consider the world to be profane, unilluminated, and this just goes hand-in-hand with the general
attitude that is conveyed by all Masons, that they are on their road to their own form of
Godhood.
And this manifests itself in severe racism.
For all the people out there that may not be too familiar with Masons or Masonry, and
this especially goes for members of minority groups who have often and usually continued
to be excluded from Masonry, and especially for women, I am here to tell you that you
are not welcome in the Lodge.
You never will be and you never have been welcome in the Lodge.
This especially goes for blacks, in spite of the Prince Hall Masonry, which is the biggest
joke and the biggest scam and the biggest insult to any single race I've ever seen,
and especially for women.
They do not want you and they consider you totally ineligible and unable to understand what they do.
You told me something the other night that I found just incredible.
You said that you could go to any Prince Hall Lodge in any black community and the doors would be open to you and you'd be welcome, but if one of those members or brothers of the lodge of the Prince Hall Lodge
came to your lodge and tried to come in and participate in these, in the ceremonies or
whatever you call them.
What would happen?
It wouldn't happen.
It just simply wouldn't happen.
I, as a Caucasian Freemasonry, can visit any Prince Hall Lodge in the country and as far
as I know in the world.
I can also visit any lodge, period, across the world.
I've been told through my initiation that I am welcome in any lodge, but this just does
not apply to blacks, no matter, even if the ritual that they go through, and I do not
know this for certain, but I know it's similar, but even if the ritual were exact, even if
the same form of quote unquote illumination that they underwent was exact,
They could not, ever, and I sit in a lodge with Caucasian Freemasons.
I've never seen a black Freemason sit in a lodge among Caucasians, and I don't think I will.
Equal opportunity and affirmative action laws are just completely ignored and considered frivolous and a joke by all Freemasons.
So the New World Order that they're bringing into being is going to be racist?
Entirely.
It has an Aryan background, and that is where it comes from.
And that's been borne out by our research.
Why then would the black community form their own lodges and support the bringing about of a New World Order that is going to relegate them back into slavery?
And I might add, along with the rest of us who don't belong to this religion, and it is a religion, why would they participate in something like that?
Well, as you've told me yourself, and most people will understand this, the world loves a mystery, and you can control the masses by dangling a secret like a carrot in front of their nose and promising them the answer to that secret if they just merely do what you say and work for you.
Uh, this together with man's own fallible, entirely fallible human nature and the selfishness of man and the ego of man, they want to be something.
They want to be better than the people around them that they see.
And since they have been told straight out that they can never advance to the ranks of Caucasian Freemasons, They have settled for just being better than their own people and excluding other blacks from joining their own lodge.
So one of the holes that Freemasonry has over people is that ordinary people, whether they be black, white, Oriental, Hispanic, doesn't matter, they want to be part of the elect.
Is that true?
Exactly.
They want to join the elite.
They'd like to look down on their fellow man.
Okay.
But now, if nobody coursed you, nobody proselytized you, how did you get into the lodge?
I went to the door and I knocked on it.
I heard a loud bang.
It's time for a break, folks.
Don't go away.
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Oh, we had a great weekend.
She's standing there, I'm feeling well.
My knee is back, I pretend to feel well.
I'm lonely, but no one can tell.
Oh, we're good.
I've been great.
We've been good.
I've been in a world of my own.
I've played a game.
What do you want me to say?
You've left me be free all alone.
Really, you could feel it awake in me Now I feel what my heart can't conceal
Oh, yet I'm just quick to pretend Your flatulent gaze is like a clown
I think that you mean what I love, you see I'm loving my heart like a clown
Breathing in that your heart never runs Really, you could feel it awake in me
Now I feel what my heart can't conceal Oh, yet I'm just quick to pretend
Your flatulent gaze is like a clown I think that you mean what I love, you see
I'm loving my heart like a clown Pretending that you're still around
Still around We're back in the studio, folks, with William Morgan, a CAGI member who has infiltrated the Lodge.
Now, this man is no dummy.
You have to understand, within two years he has risen from entered apprentice to 32nd degree Freemason of the Scottish Rite of the Southern Now, that's quite a distinction within the Lodge, isn't it?
Well, yeah, it can be considered as such.
It does get a measure of respect from those who never advanced past the third degree of Master Mason.
And what is the next step?
After the 32nd degree, there is publicly known only one more degree of Freemasonry, and that is the 33rd degree.
And you said publicly known.
Does that mean that there's more?
I suspect that there is, that there really is more.
Do you know that for sure?
No, I do not.
I do not know it for sure.
I've heard, there's a man by the name of Reverend Jim Shaw who was a 33rd, well he actually still is by Masonic law, who still is a 33rd degree Freemason, and when he became a 33rd degree he knew another Mason who was going through the same ritual who said that he was going to advance even further because he had professed a support for the Luciferian doctrine that they preach.
So, what you have just said, this is coming from your mouth, a 32nd degree Freemason of the Scottish Rite.
You have just said, I didn't prompt you, I didn't ask you the question, in fact you just surprised me, because I was going to lead up to this, but you just said, the Luciferian doctrine.
Can you explain that?
I can explain that absolutely.
Masons believe in light.
It is a priority part of their entire ritual.
Now, light to a mason symbolizes knowledge, and also intellect.
And if you've paid attention to the Mystery School broadcast, you know who the patron god of intellect is.
It is Lucifer, and in fact his very name means the farrier, or the bearer of light.
Luce is Latin for light and farrier for farrier.
This is the true god of Freemasonry, and this is also, to my great shame, The God that I knelt at the altar before and swore my blood oath to.
But when you did this, were you aware that you were swearing your blood oaths to Lucifer and not to the God of the Christian Bible?
Absolutely not.
Everything about Masonry says, and publicly said, that their God is the same God as any God.
The God of Hindus, the God of Arabs, the God of Christians.
But it's just not so.
It's a lie, and it's a scam, and all you have to do is study paganism, nature worship, and the mystery religions of Babylon to see who that real god is.
So, you have done this study on your own, and you've checked out the publications and the doctrines and the symbology within your own lodge, and you've arrived at the conclusion that the god of Freemasonry is The God of Freemasonry is Lucifer, who is actually Satan, cast from Heaven for one specific reason, and that is because he, like many other Masons, sought to attain Godhood in his own time.
And isn't that really the goal of Freemasonry?
By their works, they will become God?
Exactly.
It is a matter of works.
Salvation has nothing to do with it.
There is no repentance of sin, and in their minds, mankind was never separated from God, but is able to be an equal to or superior to God.
Now, mind you folks, I sincerely believe in the Constitution of the United States of America.
This is not a religious program, irregardless of what you may think you are hearing, and I'm not making judgment on any of this whatsoever.
I believe that anyone has the right, under our Constitution, to worship at any altar that they wish to worship at.
I do not agree with this Luciferian doctrine.
I do not worship at that altar.
The only thing that bothers me in the performance of their religion is that they are attempting to control and manipulate the rest of us into a one-world totalitarian socialist government with a one-world religion that we will all have to bow down to, with Lucifer, or Satan, as the head of that religion, actually incarnated in a human body.
They intend to install Lucifer upon the throne of the world.
Have you found any credence for this?
I've found great credence for this, and the best place to go to confirm this is just pick up the book Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike.
He himself will state, number one, that masonry is a religion, and number two, that Lucifer is involved.
That is all I needed to confirm my suspicions, and it should be all that is needed to confirm
the suspicions of all the other Masons that are out there wandering in darkness, thinking
that they are living in illumination.
So, most Freemasons, do they really believe that Freemasonry is a Christian organization?
Um, no, no, they really don't.
They may themselves be Christians, and most in America are, but it is a strict rule and law of the Lodge, written into their own constitutions, that no discussions or debates concerning religion or politics ever be brought into the Lodge.
They do not want your Christianity broadcast.
They do not want it mentioned at all.
In fact, I have a personal friend of mine who is a police officer in the lodge of which I'm a member, and when he was asked in whom he put his trust, he said, the Lord Jesus Christ.
And from that day forward, even though he's a law enforcement officer and vitally important to the New World Order, he has been ostracized, and he has been left out of many of the activities that got me to where I am in the craft today.
And I do not think that he will be even allowed to progress any farther because of that.
In fact, I think you told me the other night that That that was the first time that you had ever heard the name of Jesus Christ mentioned in that lodge, ever.
Is that true?
Absolutely.
Or any other lodge, or any Masonic publication, or any writing, or even any words out of another Freemason's mouth.
It is just not part of their vocabulary.
In fact, I have very firm beliefs that the name itself brings actual pain to their ears.
Now, we know that the lodge We'll welcome anyone who attends any church, synagogue, temple, cathedral, that belongs to any religion, whatsoever.
But we know that Freemasonry is a religion because we've studied it, and we have people like you who are a Freemason at a very high degree, and have confirmed it, and their own writing confirms it.
Albert Pike has stated it in writing in his book Morals and Dharma, and in others of his writings, I might add.
And Manly P. Hall has confirmed that.
So, if Freemasonry is a religion, yet they accept members, people who go to other churches in the community, and many different religions that have doctrines that don't agree at all, how can they rectify that?
I mean, how can you explain this?
How can this be?
It just is, and any Mason that holds his religious convictions dear and becomes a member of the Lodge is in direct conflict with his own beliefs and his own faith.
The two cannot go together, have never been able to go together, and I don't think they ever will be.
And I'd like to ask all of my, well I'd just like to tell all of my brothers and the Lodges out there, How can you possibly believe that Freemasonry is not a religion?
You meet in a Masonic temple.
You knelt at a Masonic altar with the Holy Bible or, in other countries, a different holy book, the Koran or many other texts.
You knelt there and swore your blood oaths in the name of a deity, and quiet respect is demanded in any and all lodges all over the world, just like in any temple.
You have been living a lie, and if you don't wake up pretty soon, the New World Order will turn around and eat your lunch for you.
Isn't it a fact that they believe they're going to be an integral part of this New World Order, however most of them really will not be?
This is the great joke.
This is the punchline to the whole affair.
They believe and see themselves as the priests and the priesthood of the New World Order.
They think that when all things start falling apart that they are going to be the ones that rise up phoenix-like out of the ashes, bring the world together, and deliver them into the hands of Lucifer.
Like I said, they consider themselves builders, and what they're building is the New World Order, and it's being erected like a prison around us, even as we speak.
And the capstone, and you ought to take a look at the Great Seal of the United States to get a feel for this, the capstone of the New World Order, of the building that they're creating, is actually Lucifer himself.
And isn't that the symbol of Lucifer, the all-seeing eye above the pyramid, the symbol
of light?
It actually began as the symbol of the sun, which was the symbol of the light, which was
the symbol for Lucifer, and over the years it evolved into an eye.
Christians are told that that is the eye of God, but nobody ever bothers to ask which
God or who, what's the name of this God?
And, you know, if a Muslim were to ask in the Middle East, they would say it's the eye
of God, and they would think that it was the eye of Allah.
And in the Far East, somebody might think it was the eye of Buddha, but this is never
In effect, it really began representing the sun and became the eye.
The sun has always been the representation of wisdom or the intellect or knowledge, which is all the Luciferian doctrine.
It is the symbol for the light Lucifer, the fallen angel, the Luciferian philosophy.
These are facts.
This is just the way it is.
I'm holding in my hand, in this very moment, an official Masonic medallion that is handed out to many Masons as a gift, especially if they're apprentices.
At the very top, and taking up the main position in this medallion, is the all-seeing eye.
And this eye is, just as Bill Cooper has said, a combination of the eye of a quote-unquote God, and I stress that quote-unquote more than any other, And also it is the sun.
It is a symbol of sun worship.
The eye that I'm seeing, the lashes on the eye on this medallion that I'm holding are actually the rays of the sun coming down to illuminate the fellow masons.
It is more than just a religion as Albert Pike has professed.
It is the oldest known religion.
It is a pagan religion of sun worship.
It is nature worship and it is incredibly dangerous to free loving people everywhere.
You wanted to read something from a book that you have there.
This is a book that I highly recommend that everybody in the listening audience must read this book.
You must read this book.
You can find it at most religious bookstores, Christian or otherwise.
They usually stock it.
It's called The Godmakers by Ed Decker and Dave Hunt.
Let me see who the publishers are.
Harvest House Publishers, Eugene, Oregon 97402.
That's Harvest House Publishers, Eugene, Oregon 97402.
Again, the name of the book is The Godmakers by Ed Decker and Dave Hunt.
This book truly will open your eyes.
You wanted to read something from that book.
I was reading this last night, and it just stopped me in my tracks.
I'm at page 60 of The Godmakers, in the chapter entitled The Mormon Dilemma.
And this book is about the Mormons, and once you begin reading it, you'll see through the mystery schools just how close Freemasonry and Mormonism actually is.
The subtitle of this part is called The Pagan Connection Again.
I'll read it quickly.
As C.S.
Lewis and a number of other experts have concluded, there are only two religions in the world, Christianity and Hinduism, or Paganism.
One teaches that we are separated from the one true God by sin, and that God became a man to die for our sins.
The other declares that men are not separated from God, but that each person has within himself the power to overcome evil and thus to become God or at least a God with a small g. Hinduism or Paganism embraces and absorbs everything except Biblical Christianity, which is its only genuine rival.
Although it uses Christian language to disguise its Paganism, just as many Masonic lodges do, Mormonism is less Christian than it is Hindu.
The basic dilemma faced by every Mormon is the direct result of its Hindu root.
In the Bhagavad-gita, Krishna declares that he comes forth to save the righteous and to
condemn the sinners.
This is exactly the opposite for the biblical Christ who came to save sinners.
The great complaint of paganism and all occult secret societies of which I am presently a
member is that whereas one must be worthy to join them, Christianity deliberately embraces
the unworthy.
And to prove my worthiness to join the Lodge, I had to go ask them to become a member.
At the time that I joined, it was against the Constitution's by-law, the Constitution of Masonry, I should stress, for any Mason to come to me at profane and ask me to join.
In effect, actually, isn't the Mormon Church just another branch of the old mystery religion of Babylon?
It can be nothing else.
They have three degrees.
They have ritual that they adhere to.
They are sworn to secrecy with blood oaths inside of a temple.
They have a structural hierarchy that is in the structure of a pyramid.
And all those that are initiated into this temple ritual seek nothing else but to climb the pyramid.
The reward, the carrot that is dangled in front of their nose to keep them working hard, hard, hard, is that they will experience and attain godhood for themselves.
And many of the rituals that are practiced in the temple are the exact same rituals that are practiced in the Messianic temple.
I cannot personally confirm this, but the research that I am involved in at this time supports this, and also the research of experts who are far better and far more along in their work than I am totally supports this claim, and you should verify it for yourself.
Absolutely.
You know the warning that we always give on this show.
Don't believe anything that you hear on this show, or any other show, or from the President, or Dan Rather, or anyone, until you check it out yourself.
Uh, one thing that I also want to make clear, that we have nothing against anyone.
We have nothing against people who want to worship in the Mormon religion, or the Catholic religion, or go to a temple and worship Buddha.
We believe in the Constitution, but we also believe that everyone should know what they're getting into.
We also believe that if these people are involved in subverting the freedoms of others and bringing
about a one-world totalitarian socialist government, which we have confirmed that they are, then
it is our business and our duty to stop them.
Bingo, Bill, and you've hit upon something that is a catch-22 for all masons.
Part of the blood oath says that you can never, and you must swear this on penalty of very painful and bloody death, that you will never, ever release any of the secrets of masonry to a member of the profane, to somebody out there in the big world.
But, when you become a mason, and as I did, I always ask questions wherever I go, I asked some hard questions and I got nothing.
There were no answers forthcoming.
They looked me straight in the eye and they said, I can't tell you.
How do you rectify what you're doing on this show with the oaths that you took saying that you can't do this?
Well, we've discussed this, and I have had some personal dilemmas that I've had to face, but I genuinely believe that when they do not tell me the whole truth about what I'm getting into, in fact, when they deliberately mislead me and deceive me about what I'm getting into, that that must totally invalidate the contract or the oath of which I've sworn.
It just cannot be any other way.
They have lied, and I have been honest, and I have been forthcoming to them, but they have not returned it as such.
And I found myself in the same position, folks, because when I was in the military, and specifically with the Office of Naval Intelligence, I had to sign security oaths saying that I would never talk about anything that I was involved with.
But later, when I began to realize that I was going to have to, I also understood that the only things that I would talk about Were those things that the intelligence community, the military, those in the government were doing, were doing to destroy the sovereignty of the United States of America, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and to bring about really a traitorous new government, the New World Order, and that I was not going to be involved in any traitorous activity and my first and only loyalty was to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights of the United States.
And not to some phony manipulation called a security oath, which many people are trapped under, thinking that they cannot talk about many of the things they participated in that are actually destroying this nation, destroying the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
These people are traitors.
I could not be a traitor, nor will I ever be.
What do you feel about this new world order that's coming?
It makes me want to vomit.
You're absolutely right.
They are traitors.
They have turned their backs on their people.
They have turned their backs on their country.
They have turned their backs on their family.
They are living a lie and it's not going to turn out exactly how they think.
They are like the cops.
The police officers in America that are deliberately destroying the Constitution and treating their own people as an enemy.
They can't be a cop forever.
Neither can you be a practicing mason forever.
One day that protection that you cherish so much must end.
And when it does, it will turn around and it will gobble you up like it's gobbling up so many other people right now.
Well, not only that, but many Americans are waking up.
The patriots in this country, the people who really understand and love the Constitution and Bill of Rights, are going to have an awful lot to say about what's happening.
And, of course, there are other people like me, like you.
We have the largest civilian intelligence gathering organization in the world operating full-time.
Breaking this secrecy down, bringing together the truth, and now we're running out of time for another episode of The Hour of the Time, folks.
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