Dean Cain Teams Up With Gabe Eltaeb To Crush Woke Comic Books
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So as artists, an actor, artists, whatever, we recreate the patterns of nature.
Then the viewer sees it and they're like, oh, yeah, the pattern.
And that's why you enjoy music.
That's why you enjoy a drawing, whatever, because the artist has the skill to make a pattern.
When you insert woke ideology, you break the pattern.
Do you ever get that where people complain about you?
Yes.
Yeah.
What do you do?
It's funny because I'll say something like, you know, inflation is a tax on everyone.
And they go, you're the worst Superman ever.
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Hey guys, thank you so much for tuning in.
This is the interview show with me, Jared LeMaster, and this is Adam Yenser.
Yep.
And with us today, we have you two guys.
Would you like to introduce yourselves?
Yes, I'm Gabe L. Taib.
I'm a former artist at DC Comics All That.
I moved on to greener pastures at bigmancomics.com.
And I'm here with my good friend, a guy I could beat physically one-on-one.
We established that out before the show started.
The great Superman himself, Dean King.
This is Dean Kane.
I'm Dean Kane.
And I'm glad you're wearing me on your shirts.
I know I'm not nearly Asian enough.
However, that's right.
You're like Captain.
You're Asian, aren't you?
Quarter Japanese.
Quarter Japanese.
You're Hoppa.
Yeah, I'm Hoppa.
I told you.
100%.
Hapacito.
Hapa Sito.
Hapacito.
Like a little Hoppa.
A little hoppa.
Well, Tanaka is my given name.
Is it really?
Tanaka.
So I would run around as Tanaka.
Of course, on social media, when people figured that out, somebody said something about me, you know, something about not having a time for a non-white Superman.
I was like, you're like, what did we?
It's time for a black justice.
You know, like, yeah, it's like that's it.
There's been.
There's been a few.
Yeah.
Okay.
First, yeah, that happened.
And so the same thing happened there.
And I was like, well, no, I'm, you know, part Japanese and whatever.
And someone's like, oh, but yeah, you changed your name from Tanaka.
You wanted to whitewash it.
I was like, I got adopted at four years old.
I didn't really have a choice.
Yeah.
So that's why my name went to Kane.
Yeah.
So you were Tanaka, then Kane.
Then Kane.
That's very, well, and you mentioned this shirt.
I wanted to kind of point that out.
So this shirt was drawn.
This is by you.
Yeah, I made this shirt.
Yeah.
Actually.
Yeah.
So Anne Craft's common proud.
They ditched that saying for Superman.
Truth, justice in the American way.
Yeah.
I could have said that.
So that says it on there.
It says American and proud of it.
And then in Latin underneath, it says truth, justice, America, in Latin right underneath that.
This is American.
Speak English, please.
Speak English.
That's right.
He's American.
E furbis unum.
Speak American.
We speak American here.
That's right.
We do have E furbis unum on our money.
I'm just saying.
That is that.
That's so true.
There is kind of a Latin heritage.
That's true.
That's right.
Yeah, you know.
This is really cool, though.
And actually, he has a lot of shirts.
You have a lot of shirts.
And even this was what?
This sort of blew me away.
Can I say this?
Because this blew me away.
So he created the anti-socialist social club.
If you guys have seen those shirts around, I've seen them around all over.
And you made this.
This is mine.
You must be making so much money.
I do good.
That's capitalism.
That's capitalism.
Which isn't on the shirt.
Oh, that's right.
Communism, we'd all be in our gray jumpsuits, fighting for the loaf of bread, waiting in line for bread.
Gosh, that's crazy.
Gabe, you're here once before.
I think it was one of the best conversations we had on the podcast about the way the woke ideology is interfering with art and creativity.
And it was just, it was such a wonderful, your take on it was awesome.
I got so much.
I'm very excited to have you back.
Thank you.
I really love being which is not happening anymore.
They've corrected that.
Oh, oh, yeah.
I would say they are driving into the skid is what.
No, that's what you're supposed to do.
I don't know.
Supposed to turn into this tattoo.
You're supposed to not turn away.
They're Tokyo drifting right off the cliff.
Tokyo.
Tokyo drifting.
What number was that?
Was that number three?
Three.
I think so.
Have you guys watched all those?
Have you guys watched all the?
I stopped when I couldn't count on one hand.
You know, I've only watched like 20 minutes of one where Paul Walker pulls one of the guys into guard as jiu-jitsu.
Yeah, he was like using jiu-jitsu.
I saw the most recent one, and that's the only one I've ever seen.
Wow.
Yeah.
Just pick it up at the end.
Yeah.
And I, and I saw it in the uh, it was the first time I went to one of those 40 movie theaters where it's like the seats shake and they spray water at you and there's smoke effects.
And all of that made sense.
But then there's also anytime there's a fight or an explosion, there's this little like plastic like wet noodle thing at the seat and it just slaps your legs.
And I don't know what the point of it.
Anytime there's a fight scene, that's how they that's how they it just goes.
I'm in a capital scene.
I don't understand.
I don't understand what that sensation is supposed to be.
The wet noodle slapping your legs slap.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think that's a whole, I think you're in the wrong theater.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What kind of theater was that?
Oh, I think there's a, there's a guy down there.
Oh, golly.
Jeez.
The wet noodle noodles.
It's very weird.
Yeah.
Can you imagine?
It was like a spaghetti noodle.
They have a job opening stuff.
My first job was at a car wash.
My second one was at the wet noodle.
Can you imagine applying to be the wet noodle guy and you don't get the job?
How do you go home to face your wife that day?
You know?
Well, I didn't get it, honey.
Well, you probably don't have a wife if you didn't get that job.
That's true.
Like me, there's two.
That's true.
So that's great.
So you guys have kids?
Yes.
Two that I know of.
Yes.
And one that I'm aware of.
One that you're aware of.
And he's none together.
So a little bit older.
23 is mine.
And so you guys are not married to each other.
No.
No, no.
Okay, because I was getting, I don't know, I was getting some weird voice.
We met on Twitter.
A lot of people grinder was the rumor.
But it was Twitter.
Oh, that's crazy.
Well, you guys really met on Twitter and you formed a real friendship out of that?
He saw me humiliate DC Comics, which I'm very proud of humiliating him with what they did to Superman.
And he just messaged me.
And he's like such a salt of the earth guy.
And I told you this before he came in this morning, right?
You'd meet him and he's like, oh, he's just like a guy, like a normal person, not like a snob or anything.
And he said, hey, we need to talk.
Like, here's my number.
And I called him up.
I said, what can I do for you, Mr. Kane?
And he's like, no, what can I do for you?
He's like, I want to help you promote this stuff.
And, you know, not so much like expose woke, sure, but like, we got to make our own art to replace it.
Yeah.
Because this is a disaster.
Speaking of which, you guys are teaming together to make a comic book.
You guys made a comic book.
A graphic novel.
A graphic novel.
I'm sorry.
I'm so sorry.
Come on.
A comic novel.
No, you guys made an adult coloring book.
Actually, it's a graphic novel.
Technically, you guys are wrong.
They're so wrong.
Yes.
So you guys have made it.
I want to know what it is.
Tell us about it.
Tell us about the graphic novel.
Do you want me to take it from here?
Do you want to go?
Rock and roll, baby.
Okay.
So we don't like all the woke stuff because to me, entertainment, the first thing it's supposed to do is entertain, right?
It's supposed to be fun and all that.
And I think too much of the entertainment is ideological, right?
It all has that woke left-wing stuff.
And art, when you make, I talked about this last time I was here, art is about patterns, right?
So as artists, an actor, artists, whatever, we recreate the patterns of nature.
Then the viewer sees it and they're like, oh, yeah, the pattern.
And that's why you enjoy music.
That's why you enjoy a drawing, whatever, because the artist has the skill to make a pattern.
When you insert woke ideology, you break the pattern.
Instead of ABC happening, then it's like ABC woke happens.
You know what I mean?
And the woke thing happens instead of the thing that makes sense.
And it makes the art bad.
That's what I'm saying.
Then you get Captain Marvel or something.
Right.
You get Mark Wade, this writer that DC has, having a bus crash and the mother's pulling the husband and the child to safety from the flaming bus.
Yeah.
That's stupid.
No, the father would never happen.
That's no.
Never happened.
Right.
So, um, but the point is, we want to make the old stuff that was inspiring because politics is downstream from culture and people want to know why all these stores are being robbed and why everything's degenerating and all this bad stuff is happening.
It's like, because people are persuaded by art because the thing that persuades you the most is patterns.
You know, as a stand-up, jokes are A, B, D.
It's like, it's true, but it's not what you expected.
You know what I mean?
So it's still a pattern.
Everything in art is a pattern.
And that's how you persuade people that things are true.
So if you make all this woke garbage, you will persuade them that men are evil, white men are all racist, and you can't make it if you're gay.
And I basically told DC Comics, I'm not going to help you write and draw and do stuff like that where you just put people down.
You can't make it because you're a woman.
Look at what men are doing.
I'm not going to help you write stories like that.
I'm going to write stories about hope and love and family and God and all kinds of stuff like that.
So I was working on the comic I did last year, Truth, Justice, American Way, and I was in the middle of drawing it and Dean would promote it a lot.
And I started thinking, you know, he promotes it and all that.
And we become good friends, just like shoot the breeze on the phone talking about family and all this stuff.
Why don't I do a book with him?
He loves all the same thing as me.
So I called him on the phone in the middle of drawing, pitched it to him, and he was like, I'm in.
Like 30 seconds in.
I said, we could do what I'm saying.
Right.
He got all late night sexy.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's the power hour.
But he's like, I'm in.
And then I kept selling him like an idiot.
You know, when you go like you're going past the sale and all you can now do is undo the sale.
But yeah, you get overexcited.
Then you get it.
But he said to me, you like Romancing the Stone, the great Kathleen Turner Michael Douglas movie from Michael Douglas.
Right, from 83, 84.
Oh, I remember it.
I love that movie.
I told you we had like 10 movies on tape growing up.
Romancing the Stone is one of those.
That was one of them because my stepdad had a lot of fun.
The opening sequence of that is so inappropriate for kids.
It is.
It is.
But regardless, the action and information.
I don't know.
Oh, it's a good idea.
Somebody gets kidnapped right in the beginning.
Well, no.
It starts off as a Western because it's her Western movie.
Well, that's right, but it's a Romance Western.
And she's like, her shirt's all open.
And it's wet.
Like, she's like, I don't know.
She should have been Fabio.
She was sweaty.
I'm sorry.
I don't mean to talk about your thing like that.
No, no, no.
You love that movie.
I'm sorry.
Because that was fantasy.
That was a thingy.
Romance is so, it's a great movie.
It is a great action.
You're right.
It's a great movie.
You know what I mean?
And the tone of it, especially.
Right.
And that's what he said to me.
You know that movie.
And I was like, oh my gosh, that's one of my favorite actions.
And it follows the pattern.
Right.
You have the guy being masculine, the woman being feminine, but she's not like a dummy or a pushover.
No, she's not.
So smart.
She's the John Wilder.
Right.
Journ Wilder.
Oh, it's such a good movie.
So good.
But yeah.
But so he said that to me.
I'm like, yes, I love that movie.
So I came up with a plot.
Well, first he wrote like, who is Dean Kane, All-American Lawman?
We decided it's a character, Chris Tanaka, and he's this real mysterious guy.
And you don't know, you know, is he special forces, CIA?
Like, what was he?
And all that.
But he's here.
James Bond, Indiana Jones, Jack Colton.
He's that kind of guy.
And he goes around just bashing bad guys and saving the world and loving beautiful ladies.
And overall the messages of the song, like all of our young boys should right like, because you have aspirational things that you want to live up to and you see the example from men when you're little.
Yeah, and I told you guys when I came in here last time, and i'll wrap this up but Indiana Jones stepping into that chasm in the third movie where he had to take the leap of faith, only the in the leap from the lion's head will he prove his worth.
I remember picturing that when I was deciding to leave DC Comics, I was praying about leaving because that was my only job for 20 years being an artist.
Yeah, That's how I pay my mortgage and take care of my wife and kids.
And I'm going to leave and I don't have a plan.
And I said, okay, God, well, don't let me fall.
I'm going to take that step and get away from these things.
There's an invisible bridge here.
I know it.
Oh, high-tech.
Well, you know, I know.
Honestly, I use that in my mind as well.
So like I watched The Last You said probably 400 times as a kid.
I've memorized the whole thing.
Right.
Like the entire.
I was just watching it with my kids and I literally talked through the entire movie.
I just said every line in the same cadence.
Dad, stop it.
Yeah, it's cut out.
That's for blash for me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So anyway, so I understand the leap of faith.
Right.
So I want to create things with him that 20 years from now, someone's in a tough situation and they think about Dean Kane all American lawman.
Literally, I'm not joking.
I want to give that to other people.
So our books, we don't have swearing.
We don't have sex scenes.
We don't have gore.
There's violence like Indiana Jones violence.
The Nazi guy gets shot.
He falls over okay.
There's that awesome sound that it makes when he punches someone.
Right.
Right.
Just like in real life.
Well, comedy.
Exactly what it sounds like.
Well, it's funny you bring up Indiana Jones.
You're friends with Sean Patrick Flannery.
We were watching.
Young Indiana Jones.
We're watching The Young Indiana Jones with my kids and they use the same punch sound.
It's a lot of the same sounds from the movies and that.
Anyway, it's great.
You should see it.
That's a great, it's a great show.
I haven't seen that one.
It is great.
Oh, yeah.
Sean's a fantastic actor.
He's very good.
Yeah.
He really is.
And a great guy.
And good at jiu-jitsu.
And good at jiu-jitsu.
I would love to have him on this podcast too.
I want to give him on.
I'm sure he would.
He had to come in from Texas, though.
I know.
Just roll right here.
You're going to fight him?
Yeah.
I would love to roll.
He would kick my butt.
He's like a black belt.
He's a real deal.
Did you see his movie about Jiu-Jitsu?
Yeah, yeah, by the way.
Wasn't that good?
My son and I were sitting there watching.
My son's like, I think it's my favorite movie ever.
I think I like Sean Patrick Flannery as an actor.
I go, more than your dad.
He's like, well, it's different, dad.
My kids say the same thing.
It's different.
That's like, wait, more than your dad?
What?
I'm not your hero anymore?
Don't feel bad.
My kids never read the comics I worked on.
I'm working on Superman, Batman.
They never read it.
My son hasn't seen me play Superman.
He saw like one little thing.
He's like, hey, I watched it.
He had one of his, he had many, because he's a young 21-year-old.
And a girlfriend of his at the time, they watched one or two episodes.
He goes, dad, it was better than I thought it was.
Oh, great.
He goes, yeah, you look different.
I go, shut up.
You know, that was at the same time.
So the WB started doing these things where they would cast exceptionally good looking people, obviously, with you.
And this was like at that time.
My girlfriend in high school was a massive Superman fan.
Actually, more a Dean Kane fan.
Yes.
Yes.
And anyway, so she, I think she was, her uncle or aunt was like the president of WB at one point.
And so she came on set and she got a picture with you.
Oh, sweet.
And she's here right now.
Come on in.
Actually, I haven't talked to her.
We're not friends.
I don't know, but it's been 25 years.
Anyway, but all this to say, she was a big fan of yours and I always had to compete.
And so it was very hard for me.
He's going to try to choke me out.
I know.
I've got like a little bit like a yearboxer.
I'd have to get you on the ground.
I'd have to get you on the ground.
And I would try to stop you from getting.
It just wouldn't happen.
We'd hear that sound a lot.
You've got this.
There's no way.
Jiu-Jitsu is lethal.
That's all I have to say.
And I'm a reserve police officer with Hoist Gracie.
So I took a picture of me just putting him in a knife naked choke as if I'm going to get that on Hoist Gracie.
And he smiled.
Then he put one on me.
And I think it took every fiber of his being not to just actually choke his clothes.
But then I thought, you know what?
So Hoist Gracie chokes me out.
I mean, that's like...
That's actually really cool.
Yeah.
I was like, go ahead, do it.
I didn't know Hoyst did that.
Oh, gosh.
He is fantastic.
So one of my instructors got his black belt from Hoyce.
So I was like, it's like kind of like a line of in the.
You know, that's amazing, because Hoist wouldn't listen.
Hoist is so competitive and it's crazy and he would not give out a black belt if someone didn't deserve it.
That's right.
We were qualifying on the range for our, our pistols, and we were qualifying and we and I was his assistant gunner, he was mine, but we're warming up, so we're just shooting targets, doing things, and they're having us shoot specific targets.
And there's this one target with a lot of little black circles in it and they were telling us which one to shoot.
And you know, Hoist is Brazilian he's, he's an American, but he's he his, his first language is Portuguese.
And so they were telling we had our ears on and all kinds of stuff, and they told us to shoot this one particular target, the top right.
Well, Hoist didn't shoot at that target.
So I was making a joke and I go man, you either hit that target perfectly in the little circle and it was tiny, or you shot the wrong target.
And I was trying to tease him.
He's like what?
I go, you either hit the target and I think you shot the wrong target.
He was like I shut okay, then he goes through, we qualify, he qualifies a hundred percent perfect, and he's like, uh hoist 100, he goes and I go that knife shooting, he goes.
It's because you challenged me.
I didn't challenge you, I was just telling you you shut the world.
You know, he was just like that, was it?
He was just on fire from that moment on, which was like I will beat you, I will beat you 100, it was perfect shoot.
I haven't done that yet.
Now I want to, because i'm competitive too.
So that's a crazy.
So, how often do you act?
By the way, you might see yeah, I was thinking, how often do you get to do parts and stuff tons?
Uh yeah, all the time, you're constantly shooting.
Yeah, i'm constantly shooting.
Um, I turn down more than I do too, but there's all kinds of different things now.
So obviously we're it's, we're in a strike, so I I had to turn down a few movies that I did accept um, because because they're they didn't get the interim agreement and you know.
So the things where the strike is fighting for are important.
They are, you know, residuals from streaming, it's very important, and the use of ai, it's important and um, those things have to be dealt with and that they haven't been.
But for someone like me, you know, those things are dealt with in my contract anyway.
They really are.
But it's but to make it standard.
It makes good sense.
And uh, i'm for that.
But the strike is a bummer because I know so many people, you know cast, and I mean crew members, all your, your DPS, all these they're they're just getting jammed and it's awful.
And and uh, have you gone out on the picket lines at all?
I live in Las Vegas now, so absolutely not.
No, i'm not gonna.
Buffet line.
Yeah yeah, I went to the Warner Brothers.
I went to the Warners Brother.
There's a lot of couple touches in the WGA and once the actors went on strike, the level of the amenities just went way up, food trucks, free stuff tables, better food better yeah, it was just everything went way up once.
I keep getting the messages that I should be going out there and I keep not going.
I think i've gotten twice so far.
Yeah gosh, that's too far for me to go from Nevada.
Yeah, to go walk around for a little while um, but I support it and i've talked about it on the news.
Yeah again, I wish we didn't have to strike um, because I would really want to be.
I'd want Be working, you know.
I want everyone else to be working, and I'd love to.
I'd like to.
I wasn't involved in the negotiations, so I don't know how it went down or got to the point we had to strike, but I wish it didn't have to happen because it's costing a lot of people a lot of money.
Yeah, it's a real bummer.
Yeah, it's not a good time for that.
Well, you know, that's good.
Hopefully, it'll be resolved soon.
We can kind of get some stuff going.
Um, yeah, that's good.
Maybe, maybe some of us can all work together someday.
Yes, you guys are good.
The voices and stuff, I don't do any of those, so don't I'm not part of that.
I can just be me.
You're right here.
You're you.
This guy.
I did a voice actor.
Dean Teen Naka Kane.
I did a voice work, so I came in.
I got to play some character on some voice thing.
And I was being like the bad guy, the monster thing, right?
But we're in voice actors, they are amazing.
So, people who don't know this, I was so embarrassed because there was 15 people, 10 people, whatever.
And then the director was in a little booth up there, and we all sat in a circle, we all in a circle, and they all had these big old scripts and things.
We all have the same script, but I knew my little parts were, I had to come and do my thing.
So, I'm just reading the script as we go along, and I hear this voice.
I hear this like kid voice and I'm look up, and it's this big black dude who must be like 6'4, 260.
And I was like, What the heck was that?
And then, all of a sudden, I hear this other, like, other voice, and it's this little tiny woman over here.
I'm like, What is that?
Then all of a sudden, I hear this big booming voice, and it's that same black dude.
I go, Oh my gosh, these guys are so much better than me, and I'm going to embarrass myself.
And like, they were ripping through it, and she wasn't having anybody do anything over.
And then I got my line, like, hey, come over here.
And she's like, Okay, let's slow it back down.
Let's bring it.
I was like, Why are you doing that?
Can we take a second?
Why me?
I realized how good these voice actors are.
They all had like six characters.
When you're Dean Kane, bro, you don't have to do that.
I have to do characters.
I have to do characters because I'm just this guy.
You're good.
You're good.
You're Dean Kane.
Yeah, well, Dean Flippin' Kane.
Yeah, but you can play 37 guys.
I got one.
Just the one.
It's done pretty well for you.
Speaking of Superman.
Okay, speaking of Superman, Gabe, we want to rate the best Supermans.
So we'd love to have you talk about your all-time favorite Superman.
I'm a police.
So obviously, it could be.
Keep that in mind.
It could be Henry Cavill.
Okay, probably.
It could be Christopher Reeves.
George Reeves.
Tom.
So far, this is a tie all first place so far.
Paul Conna.
And yeah, I think that's it.
What was that last one?
Paul Cotton.
Who's that?
I don't think I'm missing anyone.
What was the last name you said?
I don't even know who that is.
It says Paul Conner.
Paul Khan.
I have no, I don't know who that is.
Maybe he was like the video game.
We're just looking at notes here.
I've never heard that one.
Maybe it was a voice actor.
You're missing a couple, though.
Oh, yeah.
Was that Brandon Ralph or Ruth?
Whatever you say.
Brandon.
Wait, who else are we missing?
Tyler Hacklin.
There's that Tom Welling guy.
I said Tom Tom Welling's at the bottom.
How about the 1948 Kirk Allen?
Kirk Allen.
And then, of course, the best one of all.
Yeah, what's the best one?
Who's the new kid playing him?
That's not the best one.
The best one.
Nicholas Cage.
Nicholas, that almost happened.
Remember, you told me that Nicholas Cage?
Oh, he called me.
They reached out.
He was going to have something about it, but then it didn't happen.
Didn't he compliment your boots on the set?
Like you ran into him?
That's Stevens.
Truth Justice.
On the American What?
That's so crazy.
That would have been so crazy.
And obviously, Dean Kane.
So I say the best Superman of all time is Christopher Reeve.
That's my personal.
That's who I first saw as Superman.
That was my Superman.
When I played Superman, I tried to play it like he was so good at Clark.
Yeah, but I hated Clark in those.
I didn't date him.
I just didn't like the because I wanted him to.
I like George Reeves Clark.
Right.
Where he's just a regular dude and, you know, he could spar back and so on and so forth.
I thought that was fun.
I enjoyed that.
So I went, I kind of stole George Reeves Clark a little bit and I took a little bit of Christopher Reeve for his thing.
And then I.
Yeah, you were a lot more sort of masculine as Clark, which I like.
I mean, he was definitely sort of a beta male.
He was definitely playing that up.
Yes.
And I get what they were doing.
It was funny.
I mean, it was a funny thing because he's so big and awesome and cool.
That's what DC is doing to Superman now.
The next one is called Superman Beta Male.
Well, it really is there.
That would be an actual step up.
Super Titan.
The Titanic thinks that DC Comics has bad leadership, okay?
My goodness.
My favorite Superman is Dean Kane saying Christopher Reeve is his favorite Superman.
There it is.
That was a great moment.
It's true.
It's absolutely true.
It's true, man.
You are a regular guy.
You're just giving the credit to other people.
Just a regular dude that went to Princeton, played in the NFL, dated beautiful women, and played Superman.
Just a regular guy.
Just a regular guy.
That's highly successful.
Highly successful.
And we're all jealous of.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
It does read well.
Yeah, it's pretty good.
Can I ask a quick question?
Why is Kevin Sorbo staring at me like that from back here?
He's angry at you.
He's jealous.
You know why he's angry?
What did he tell him?
You know why he's angry?
Why?
Because there were two guys who got the final call for Superman.
Yeah.
Dude, when he came here.
You got it.
And he was never heard from again.
Okay, I talked to him about, I met him in Las Vegas.
We were in a hotel in the elevator.
And so he came down and I talked to him like, Kevin Sorbo.
And I, you know, and I was like, I kind of collected myself.
I was like, hi, Kevin.
I'm Jared.
I work at the Babylon B.
And we were talking and I told him about Nefarious, the movie that was in.
I was like, yeah, I got into, because you talked about Chuck and Carrey.
And he said, yeah.
I was like, well, I was in Nefarious.
He goes, you were in Nefarious?
And I was like, yeah.
I auditioned for Nefarious.
Ooh.
So both of us got it.
I was in it.
I was in it.
He did not get it.
So you beat him out for Superman.
I beat him out for guard number two.
There it is, baby.
Officer Wilson was my character's name.
Officer Wilson?
Yeah.
Now, who wins?
Hercules or Superman?
Who wins in a fight?
Well, Hercules is a god of Superman.
He's magical, right?
No, obviously Superman.
Yeah.
I feel like Superman's always hard to beat in those who would beat because he has so many, so many powers.
Yeah, Hercules can't fly into space.
Like he can't fly into the sun.
Like there's nothing.
Well, who wins?
If I threw him into space, I don't think he'd make it either.
Right, because he needs to breathe.
He has to breathe.
What about beta male, current beta male Superman versus Hercules?
Hercules all the way.
All right.
He would just cry in the corner.
He might let him live out of pity.
He'd look at him and go, he looks so bad.
He would call Wonder Woman and be like, please can you help me?
Please help me.
Is there a word for when you have pity but disgust at the same time?
Because I feel like that's what Hercules would feel.
Yeah, he would be.
I think that's the, I think sometimes it's, it's disdain.
I think that's the word.
That's a good word.
Yeah, disdain.
But Kevin had a wonderful run on Hercules right behind.
And we're great friends.
I love Kevin.
Yeah.
We just did a big together two weeks ago.
Did you really?
We were always together.
He's doing a Comic-Con Christian Comic-Con thing called Rise Up.
And he's doing that next year.
And I've already agreed to do that with him.
We're buddies.
I mean, really, he's just a golfer.
That's when he came here.
He was in his golf attire.
Of course, because he golfs every single day.
He's had nine aces.
I thought it was because he doesn't prepare for interviews.
No, that's what he.
He was wearing a visor.
Yeah, the whole thing.
All right, let's go knock this thing out of the way.
That shirt on, like tucked in.
He is golf every day.
He was great.
He was so much fun to talk about.
So much fun.
I love Kevin Superman.
He has nine aces, nine holes in one.
Oh, that's great.
Wow, really?
And he was just leaving to go play the Buffalo Bills, the Jim Kelly golf classic, which I did once, but I was still working.
He left West Virginia where we were, and he went off there.
Well, you guys are both kind of physical phenoms.
Phenoms?
I like that.
I would go.
Yeah.
Is that the right word?
It's a good word.
I mean, that's the thing.
You guys won the gene pool.
That's why you're so successful.
You're talented as well.
That's the other thing.
Physicality helped a lot playing Superman.
There's no I bet it did.
Well, it was great because with the underwear.
Oh, yeah.
That's that was on the outside.
Terry Hatcher thought that was funny because she's like, you know, it's the only place, this is the only show she did where I was the one in the tights and the things all the time instead of the instead of the women.
I grew up putting my underwear on the outside of my sweatpants because of Superman.
So when I was under a couple weeks ago, of course.
The underwruze.
Yeah, it was funny how doing the press for that internationally, you know, they had so much fun with it in Australia and England specifically.
Why are you wearing the nicas on the outside?
I'm like, what's going on with a nickel?
That's the choice I made.
I didn't make the choice.
The character's been there forever.
That's right.
Why are you putting it on me?
That was the comic book drawer.
That's your fault.
That's my fault.
Come on.
Well, when I was talking to some British fans, they were telling me they actually suggested it to me.
But I wanted to hit back to Kevin Sorbo.
Do you know how he got Hercules?
No.
He was actually one of the finalists to play Xena and he didn't get it.
And they said, we have something else for you.
So we got to.
Oh, so yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's pretty good.
Okay.
Dean Kane.
I want to ask you.
We want you to rank your all-time favorite Batmans.
Okay.
So we've got Adam West, obviously.
Phenomenal, great.
Right.
Of course.
George Clooney.
He's a good buddy of mine.
He's a nice guy.
He's a really nice, really nice guy.
He's hysterically funny.
He's got the nipple.
The nipple thing for me, because I'm a nipply guy.
I appreciate that.
You're a nippley guy.
I'm a nipple.
He's got heavy nipples.
I told you, I got pointy nipples.
So we had to make the escalate to cover my pointy nipples.
I thought you said also you taped.
Yeah, I thought we were going to keep that in private.
I thought we had the agreement.
That was between us.
I think we were with everybody.
I've had a tape.
I taped them down before this interview.
Of course they're down.
I had to do that.
You looked.
You're looking.
I was thinking like all the viewers have checked them on.
Everybody was looking.
Powerful chest.
I think just the nipples.
I preferred the tape.
Would you use like painter's tape or is it duct tape?
Oh, no, they thought it was fun.
So they put something on it.
I'm not hairy.
So they would just do something that was sticky.
And then they would, my customer thought it was hysterical to just rip it off.
That's fun.
So yeah, we've also got Val Kilmer.
Michael just nods.
Michael Keaton.
It's great.
Robert Patterson.
Christian Bell.
I liked him in the dark night.
Yeah, he was cool, right?
Kevin Conroy.
So who's the best?
Well, bless Kevin.
He was a friend of mine.
And what a great voice.
Phenomenal guy.
He was past.
And so rest in peace, my friend.
My one I liked, I would have to go, I liked Michael Keaton the most.
And I just, because that's what I saw.
I liked him.
And then I put number two, the Christian Bale.
Except, you know, why are you doing it?
That thing was a little bit.
It was a bit much.
It was a bit much.
The character was great.
But there was Rachel.
My best friend of that whole bunch was Clooney.
So, because he's the only one I know of the bunch.
And I like George a lot.
I don't agree with all of his politics or some of the things he says, but I don't care.
Obviously, he's full of crap sometimes.
I also like his take on the Batman.
His Batman.
He has a sense of humor about it.
His humor is important.
Yeah.
There's a great documentary on HBO Max about the history of Warner Brothers, the studio, and he talks about Batman and it's.
And one of the things he, well, I hope he said this on that because he said it.
I've heard him say this before, which is, you got to get the joke.
You got to understand that or else you are the joke.
You know, you got to get it.
I was there.
So they were shooting on the Warner Brothers Live.
We were shooting Lois and Clark.
And we go in there and I wanted to go over and see.
They were doing some huge scene that day.
I think it was, I don't know what it was, but just massive.
It was just huge.
And I walked in there and Joel Schumacher sitting behind all these monitors and stuff.
George is sitting there.
He's got his eyes blacked out and blah, blah, blah.
And I was like, there was like another Batman over here.
There's a Batman over there.
I'm like, why so many, why are there so many Batmans?
And he's like, oh, that guy does the jumping.
That guy does the kicks.
That guy does it.
And I was like, what do you think?
He goes, I talk.
I went back to my set and I was like, hey, look, George has like six other Batman.
Can we get some more suit?
And they're like, no, you can't do that.
I don't have that.
Can I get the nipples on the suit?
And they're like, it's not on the budget.
The nipples are very expensive.
Nipples are very expensive.
No, that's crazy.
Okay, so you guys didn't even talk about Val Kilmer.
I liked Val as if I actually.
He's a friend of mine too, and I like Val.
Strangely enough, I liked Val Kilmer a lot too.
Not my favorite, but I do think Val Kilmer was a great Batman.
And I think it's because I was coming of age when Forever came out, Batman Forever, which and that soundtrack was cool.
Like there was all kinds of, there was all kinds of good media around that one.
And Jim Carrey was in it.
There was a lot of crazy.
Yeah, that was fantastic.
They were great.
What's so hard about ranking them, I feel like, is they each Batman has its own tone.
Like even the Adam West one when I was a kid.
Oh my gosh.
I loved it.
Now, it's not the one that you would compare in the same vein of like a Christian Baylor or Michael Keaton.
Different movies.
But in its own way, when you watch that stuff, it had that campiness that was so much fun.
Come on, that 60s dance thing when he was doing the dance.
Come on.
The pow and the whack.
Bam!
But that was amazing.
That stuff was fantastic.
Well, Michael Keaton always kind of blended the crazy.
So he was Bruce Wayne.
He was still a little crazy as Bruce Wynne.
Like, you know, it seems like all these other guys have Bruce Wayne on control.
George Cooney, obviously, is Bruce Wayne, I think, in real life.
In real life.
You can have a chance.
Yeah, he is.
But he didn't really carry.
I don't think he took enough of the crazy over to the Batman side.
No, I would say you were pretty good.
He was still a little bit too much Bruce Wynne, maybe.
Who's your favorite Bruce Wayne?
Oh, wow.
I mean, to me, all of it, the best Batman, the best Bruce Wayne, all of it's Kevin Conroy.
That's the best comic book thing to exist, is the Batman animated.
It really was.
It's so well written.
I worked with that recorder, Paul Dini.
He wrote the Arkham City video games that were really popular.
My friend from Wildstorm, that's a DC comic show, he was the designer for all those Arkham City characters in the video game.
And then we did a comic book series like in 2011, Arkham City, the comic book.
I colored it, Carlos Struitt, and then Paul Dini wrote it.
So that's, to me, that was just such a blessing from God to get to work with a writer that wrote this cartoon that I loved when I was like a middle schooler, high schooler.
But you can watch it as an adult, and it's so well written.
It holds them so well.
It's not just like Vapid or anything like that.
No, it was the best cartoon ever created.
As far as dramatic cartoon, it was the best.
I honestly didn't watch it really.
Oh, wow.
It was what I would put on Princeton over there.
But now I can.
Mr. Princeton.
When I got home from school, that was what I would always put on writers.
We don't watch copyrights.
Me too.
I was running all of you guys put together so it didn't exist when I was a kid.
I remember it was hard for a while.
They released the whole series on DVD, but they only released it for like a limited time.
And I would like go to thrift stores trying to find it.
And I remember one day after years of looking for it, because I wanted the whole series, I bought the Batman the Animated series.
Literally, when I got home, it was like Batman the Animated series bought by Netflix or something and streaming for free.
It's like the day I finally found out it was put on.
I forget what platform it's on, but it's streaming now.
Yeah, but having those DVDs, because it's going to go off those platforms.
Yeah, yeah.
And streaming won't work.
The grid's going to go down.
That's going to happen.
I mean, you're going to lose the streaming here and there, whatever.
I was just in my house in Las Vegas and all that big, you know, oh my gosh, it's a hurricane.
No, it's really that whole thing.
It wasn't a hurricane.
Anyway, it didn't affect, it affected the TV for a little bit.
My mom was like, oh, my God, my TV is off.
And I was like, my, oh, it's back on.
Click.
I was like, all right.
That was not a hurricane.
It's a hurricane.
Hurricane.
It was not much of a hurricane.
That's true.
I'm glad.
Let's rank or get your feedback on some other comic book movie adaptations.
We can kind of do rapid fire here.
We mentioned earlier, Captain Marvel.
Love it.
I love watching Disney humiliate themselves.
I'm all for it.
Listen, as a comic book creator owning my own studio, bigmancomics.com, bigmancomics.com.
Just come up with that name.
I'm a big man.
That's it.
And I was called big man a lot.
And I don't know.
To me, it's like it's masculine.
I feel like this is a very unbalanced screen here.
You guys are like huge.
And we're over here.
Yesterday.
There's a teeter totter.
It reminds me.
The last time I felt like this, we had Dennis Krager on the podcast.
We went to his studio.
And I don't know if it was a power mover or what, but he's a very large man.
And he sits behind this desk.
And then he gave Jarrett and I like the kids' chairs from Sunday school.
Basically.
We're sitting at the foot of his desk.
I'm pushing you.
I was like, it's really nice to have you off.
Why are you so far down?
What is your name, little boy?
Why are you so short?
I'm Dennis Frager.
He's got a great voice, that guy.
He does.
I do like him.
He's very good.
Sorry, yeah.
Back to Big Man.
Big Man.
What were we saying about?
You asked me a question, then I started doing it.
Captain Marvel, you got excited.
And then I started your own.
Now, someone's doing my own stuff now.
I am, you know, I don't like them putting the woke out there because it influences people for, you know, to think and believe evil things.
But as a businessman, I'm like, yes, please keep making garbage so it's easier to compete.
So I don't know.
They're doing a good job of making a lot of garbage these days.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's, you're not kidding.
Well, it's just bad storytelling.
If you think about Captain Marvel, she has no connections.
She has no vulnerabilities.
There's no weaknesses at all.
The story is just her deciding to do things.
Like she's invulnerable.
There's just nothing.
There's nothing that drives the story.
Nothing at stake.
I hate it because of that.
And like you can tell a story.
I mean, I don't care about female.
I mean, it's great.
You have a female superhero.
We all loved Princess Leia in the 80s.
Yeah, Princess Leia is amazing.
Even Wonder Woman, the new Wonder Woman was good.
She had vulnerabilities, relationships.
I didn't see the second one.
Galvano is good.
I don't know.
But this Captain Marvel thing, it's just bad storytelling.
And we got to tell good stories because we got to tell true stories.
Right.
The story has to have verisimilitude.
Verisimilitude with itself, right?
It has to agree with itself.
And that's what I was telling you guys earlier.
When you put woke in their story, the story doesn't even agree with itself.
The example I've always given people is like Game of Thrones, Jon Snow.
He's fighting a dragon.
He's like, I got to get out of here.
I can't win.
And then he leaves in a Jeep Cherokee.
You'd be like, what?
There's no Jeeps in this.
Jeeps are real.
Jon Snow's real, right?
But there's no verisimilitude there.
It's not the woke stuff.
It doesn't jive with any logic that anyone believes in.
It's just doing it to virtue signal, which is just narcissism.
That's all that is.
Oh, it's so stupid.
So what about She-Hulk?
I didn't even watch that one.
I don't have anything.
I didn't watch it either.
Of course, I got subjected to the twerking on social media.
I saw that part where she twerked.
That was awesome.
That was really fantastic for the kids to.
It's good.
It's great.
What are they doing?
They're murdering their brands and they're killing their bottom line.
I mean, Disney lost almost a billion dollars in the last little bit on the movies they've done.
They're just dying horrifically.
And they're just nobody wants to watch them.
Nobody wants to watch them.
And I think that pennies.
I don't think even woke people want to watch him.
They want to want the message.
Whether or not they don't see it as art or entertainment.
Yeah, they're not comic driving an agenda.
It's activism, and it doesn't work in capitalism.
It doesn't work.
We had one of the guys from the ADF on last week, and he was saying that they're going to start rating different businesses based on the free speech quotient instead of just having the kind of woke narrative.
So hopefully there's going to be a pushback.
Hopefully some of these businesses, even Disney, not too much for you.
Here's the great thing about owning your own studio and working for yourself.
I am the complaint department.
So if you don't like something Gabe said in public, you can call me and I can tell you that maybe you should take a nap.
Okay, what's your number?
I do have a fake Google number.
You know, you can get the Google Real.
And that is the business number.
I don't know what it is.
I can look at it.
That's funny.
But yeah, that's on my website.
You can contact me and complain to me about me.
And I'll tell you, too bad.
Yeah, I've done that a bunch of times and I haven't gotten any response from management.
That's right.
How about you, Dean?
Do you ever get that where people complain about you?
Yes.
Yeah.
What do you do?
It's funny because I'll say something like, you know, inflation is a tax on everyone.
And they go, you're the worst Superman ever.
I was just talking about, yeah, that's the arguments I get.
You're like, nuh-uh.
Nuh-uh.
Nuh-uh.
But that's the kind of stuff I get all the time.
Oh, my God.
Which is, which is so, that's a victory.
I'm just like, okay, and I've won.
And block, which apparently is not going to be on the Twitter function anymore.
I don't know, which is fine.
I'll mute.
But it's just hearing that stupidity.
It's just, you know, listen, there's actors who have political opinions I don't like.
We already talked about it today.
But I enjoy their movies.
I would hire Robert De Niro if he was right for a role for something that I was doing.
He's great.
I would work with Rob Reiner, who I think is a very good filmmaker, but I disagree with him politically.
He made a couple of my favorite movies, you know.
The Princess Bride, I love so much.
That's a fantastic movie.
It's phenomenal.
And so, and I'm friends with a lot of people who I have very differing political opinions with.
I just don't understand how people or why people are so against working with somebody whose political opinion they don't agree with.
I think that's gone way too far.
And I'd like to see that come back.
Do you feel like you're currently able to do that or is Hollywood so split right now?
Pretty split.
It's hard to get.
Because I don't care.
Like, I don't, I've never followed the rules in that sense.
I'd like, you know, even in college, we have eating clubs at Princeton, right?
So you join these eating clubs and you can, you can, like, rush them, which is called bicker, you know, where you get chosen or not chosen or something like it.
People are like, oh, you get chosen.
We want the ones you could just sign into.
You can do that too.
Great.
But there's like all the football players who went to this one.
And I was like, I don't, I want to go to this one because it was 50, 50 girls, guys.
And I thought that was a bit racial.
You had like 60, 40 guys.
So I was like, hey, this is better.
But that's, you know, I was in a, I was actually in a fraternity, even though it's illegal at the school.
I wasn't in a fraternity legally.
He was in a sorority.
That's really what I didn't know.
I could join now.
With Kevin Sorbonne.
With Kevin Sorbonne.
But I mean, like, I had to hold different group of friends there.
I wouldn't, I didn't do anything to march.
It was just because that's what I wanted to do.
I wasn't trying to be different or do something different.
And I just marched by my own drum.
I don't care.
It never has bothered me that I'm not doing the thing.
My mom says I'm the worst celebrity of all time because I don't want to go to any events.
Because I don't want to, I don't, I'd rather be home.
I'd rather cook for my kid and, you know, watch a football game or do something.
I prefer that.
I love my life.
And she's, she's like, you're the worst.
You don't go to any of the things.
And I mean, I'll go to a football game.
I'll go to a, I'll go to a UFC match.
I'll go to, you know, something that's a PBR, watch some guys fall off of, my dad was a bull rider.
So I love those sorts of things.
I love Paps Blue Ribbon, PBR.
PBR.
That's what I think of when I say it.
There's also the professional bull riding.
Oh, the bad.
That was that one.
Yeah.
PBR.
I found a PBR.
My son had a PBR the other day.
I was like, watch out.
I was like, I go, Paps, Paps, Blue Ribbon.
What are you doing?
What is this?
And it's like, I saw it on a TV show.
I wanted to taste it.
There you go.
I was like, how was it?
He's like, it's okay.
All right.
Thanks.
That was it.
I was in a Paps Blue Ribbon commercial a long time ago.
All I did was eat a chip.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I did all the old commercial.
I did 40-something commercials before I started getting roles.
You were like, Kevin.
I saw you.
So you were sort of volleyball with Tony the Tiger.
Yeah.
He was my partner.
Playing doubles I playing, but I was the boys that was.
I remember that one, I remember that one oh, the Budweiser one.
Or the the the playing frosties.
Tony the Tiger yeah, I remember frosties because it was done for the Uk.
It's not frosted flakes, it's frosties frosty.
But I did captain Princeton's volleyball team my senior year, so it's like I did play the sport so, and I grew up playing beach volleyball, my so, but that means you went to college and then immediately you started working like you were.
You were working as an actor right away.
Well, I played pro football for a year, you played, so I did have that.
And then I started working as a commercial actor and then, when I was 24, I think so a couple years before, I got my first role, and then I was 26 when I was cast as Superman wait a minute wow, there's a British.
Tony the Tiger.
No oh, they just call frosted flakes frosties.
Oh, I thought they're grand.
No, I can't change the catchphrase, can't do that.
Yeah, what was the?
What was the?
They're great oh, they're great.
Yeah, they're great, yeah.
Listen.
I love Scottish accents to death.
I'll just listen to it, i'll just.
I want to go to Scotland and just watch everybody talk.
Yeah, it's good.
I think my favorite accent in the world is probably a Scottish accent.
The girl that was in Train Spotting what's her last?
What's her name the?
Anyway, she does Merida.
Yeah, that girl, that girl.
The girl she played Merida and Brave.
She has my favorite Scottish voice.
I like her.
Yeah, the most beautiful accent i've ever heard and the ugliest accent i've ever heard, come from the same language.
Yeah, it was the individual who said them.
It was Italy and was Italian.
This woman I was there visiting the first time.
I'd just done the first season of Loss And Clark, so we were going over there and we were doing all the press and stuff.
Nobody who knew knew who I was, so the show hadn't come out there and there was this unbelievably gorgeous Italian woman and she was speaking and it was like a song and I was just, I was I think I floated a little bit, you know, and stuff and she was just beautiful.
I was like wow, that is the most beautiful thing.
I speak some Spanish.
I should.
I want to learn Italian now.
And then, about 45 minutes later, this very angry, pompous Italian man oh boy was speaking the same language and it was the most offensive, horrible thing i'd ever heard and I was like wow, that just uh, went right there and there.
So uh yeah, so I still love Italian and i'll be there next month officiating a wedding.
Oh, that's cool, officiating a wedding.
Yes, I will also be an ordained minister.
So are you ordained as what I will be?
I'm not, currently not ordained as like, a Jedi, or are you gonna, like I am?
I am a Jedi because you can do that.
Actually, if you go online, you can sign up and be a Jedi and do weddings.
Jedi religion, yeah, there is a religion.
Yeah, if I show up and do that, i'm gonna get murdered, come back as a force ghost.
Uh no, i'm gonna be that Jedi, you will.
You will come back more powerful than they could possibly imagine.
I will get ordained and I don't know how i'll do it, but I gotta get done in the next couple weeks because uh, times are running out.
That's good.
They're specific.
I think there's specific things for being in Italy versus Spain, versus being, so you got to do this a lot when you do the wedding.
Speaking of a width, you know what's weird I I just speaking of Italian accents I went to go to the UM.
I went to the Catacombs in Rome.
In room been there, there's 500 000 Christians buried there.
Very interesting, if you walk.
Very interesting.
Really?
What did you film there?
It was a Lost of Flakes commerce.
It was a little movie.
I was playing basically the devil, is what it was.
I was trying to buy people's souls, basically.
Oh, that's true.
It was a scary movie.
You've had so many parts you can't remember.
I honestly can't name that one.
It was some weird thing.
I've done a couple hundred movies.
Some great, some not as great, but that's the I like to work.
One of the things I read you did that I thought was interesting.
You hosted a show about finding Bigfoot.
Yes.
What was that like?
It was called $10 Million Dollar Bigfoot Bounty.
I just saw that.
I was like, how did I miss it?
I want to go back and watch it now.
Well, that sounds so fascinating.
You hear about it all the time.
My brother's a conspiracy theorist and everything, and he's like, he loves Bigfoot.
He's convinced Bigfoot exists.
I want Bigfoot to be real.
I don't necessarily believe it, but I'm so fascinated by it because I want it to be real.
So we got a bunch of scientists.
And they had to find SCAT, which is when you go to the bathroom, it's called SCAT.
And we had to have real DNA.
So there were some real criteria, but we had a $10 million bounty if you could prove it.
So we put these guys and put them out on these sort of silly little challenges, but then they would go and look for everything and really bring back stuff.
What region were they searching for?
The Pacific Northwest or all the other people?
Yeah, just the whole Pacific Northwest, all through Oregon, Washington, up and there.
We're staying up.
You're driving by, you see Bigfoot things there and there.
The place where they took that amazing, I want to say Zaprooter found it.
That's what I always think of it as.
That one where he's looking back and walking.
It's like we're there.
You know how long it takes to get to that spot, though?
I mean, like five-hour drive out of somewhere and then a couple hours of hiking through the, you know, and then we got there and I was like, hey, we're here.
What if he's here?
What if he's here?
And you kind of hope.
You really hope.
The great skunk ape.
Yeah, we didn't find it.
And you didn't find him.
Did you see throughout the tip of that show, was there any piece of evidence that you thought was particularly the most interesting?
Was there anything that was like, oh, that's really difficult to explain otherwise?
I think, you know, there's the sounds and stuff like that.
So we'd be out spending the night in these really remote spots and then, you know, people would hear it.
And all our Bigfoot hunters would go bananas.
And then they're like grabbing, you know, Geiger counters and things.
They're like, yeah, running out.
Running out like there.
We hope we didn't lose people.
And we're trying to send camera crews with them and stuff.
But no, nothing.
Nothing.
I don't think we ever had any piece that I thought.
I want to go back and watch it.
It's particularly compelling.
Sounds so fascinating.
How interesting.
And the contestants, they are all in.
They're 100% positive.
That's interesting.
Todd Dissotel was our professor.
He's at NYU.
And he has to go through and he'll be like, yeah, it's a sheep.
He'll tell you what you found.
That was a sheep.
Yeah, it was a sheep.
Another sheep.
This bad.
She's a homeless person.
They're all over the Pacific Northwest.
That's darn true now.
It's a homeless person named Steve.
He's a jonah.
He's a Jonah.
That's really funny.
I was in a movie about Bigfoot.
I played a British rock musician.
Wow, really?
A movie about Bigfoot.
Yeah, it was a mockumentary.
Neil McDonough was in that movie.
He was a great guy.
He's very cool.
Very good guy.
He's a very cool guy.
Very nice.
107 children.
107 kids.
He's Catholic.
Yes.
So speaking of which being ordained, I want to talk to you guys about your Christian faith because both of you guys are professed Christians, right?
Absolutely.
True.
Okay, so tell me more about that.
And how long have you been Christians?
Like, how did you become Christians?
Why are you going to do that?
I'll go first because I feel like you're going to have a longer story.
Yes.
You generally do.
Well, I do talk a lot.
Go for it.
Now's your chance.
I was raised with not a whole lot of religion in my family.
My dad was Methodist, and so we would kind of, we'd go.
Yeah, they could go either way.
Yeah, we'd go to church on Christmas Eve so they could hide presents, things like that.
And we would show up for certain things and certain big, big, big religious holidays.
And I was always thinking, you know, I'm going to find my faith.
I'll figure it out when I get to college because I'm going to go off and do my thing.
I took even that course, religion 211, great professor, studied all the world religions.
I was like, maybe, maybe I'm going to find that I want to be Hindu.
Maybe I'll find that, you know, Judaism is my thing or whatever.
My, my roommate, my roommate, my best friend from across the way was Jewish.
And he would tell me all these, I had to help him study for his bar mitzvah.
And he would tell me all these stories.
He'd go away to what he called Jew camp, which was like this thing he would get.
But it was like, they had anymore.
This is what he called it.
I didn't call it this.
This is their work.
And Evan Perman did it.
But then he would tell his stories.
Like they'd have overnight hikes and, you know, maybe he'd curl up next to a girl.
I was like, I got some, I was like, mom, dad, I want to go to Jew camp with that.
What is what?
And I was like, well, that sounds like a lot of fun.
And then when I had to do the studying for the bar mitzvah, I was like, maybe I don't want to be Jewish.
That's a lot of studying.
I'm done.
I'm done.
But then he had to sing.
I was like, oh, I can't sing.
I'm out.
But then, so I was trying to find my way and trying to see what I thought and what I believed.
And you have those moments of, you know, trying to figure out what it's all about.
And then when I was 33 years old, I had a child.
And that changed everything for me.
The moment he came out, just being his father and then realizing that I will, that I value this life more than my own.
Then he started going, okay, wait a minute.
You know, there's things are different now.
And then when he was, I don't know, four or five years old, the realization that one day he's going to die, he understood that that was an unbelievable time for me.
It was before he was five.
I know this because when he was five, I was in Iraq and I went to Iraq with our servicemen and women.
And I had a lot of conversations with God.
That's the way it happens for a lot of folks.
But my son, realizing that he was going to die, he got so distraught by it, like his body would start shaking.
And I would have to the middle of the night, take him outside and sit him under the cool sky and talk to him about life and faith and things like that.
And that was a real big part of my personal journey because anybody can tell you anything.
And I'll see kids and things at church.
Are they really paying attention or not?
Are they feeling that?
How do you put it into perspective and so on and so forth?
And then so with having my son, that became something that was very important to me.
And then I started realizing the mortality of my folks and friends were dying around me and things were happening.
And that's the kind of thing that I thought that really kind of kicked it over for me.
And that's you go to a particular church.
Did you end up?
No, I'm not a big church goer even now.
I do go to church sometimes, but it's hard for me to not look past the hypocrites.
And there are a lot of hypocrites at church and the things that are going on.
I would say 100% of the people that go.
It bothers me.
It bothers me a lot.
And my best friend was Catholic and my girlfriend was Catholic in college.
And I have a picture of us.
We're on a sort of a little ski trip and they're talking Catholicism to me.
And the picture is me like this.
But I did go to Catholic school for a semester and I just was watching behaviors versus what people were putting out there.
And same thing in the churches.
I was like, they're not paying attention.
God be with you.
And I'm also with you.
And I was like, what's like you're chanting?
So we were having arguments about that stuff.
And I just sort of found what I felt was what spoke to me.
And that was, it was Christianity.
And that was just what I don't, I don't hold it over anybody if people want to believe what they want to believe.
I've been to all sorts of countries, Muslim, Hindu, whatever.
I've been all over the place.
And I certainly respect other people's beliefs and just ask that they respect mine.
And I was wonderful to take my son.
One of my good friends from college is a Prince of Jordan, Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad.
He's one of the most foremost Muslim scholars in the world.
And my son went to a Christian high school.
And just after he graduated from that high school, he went to Oaks Christian in Westlake, California.
And then we went out there and he and Prince Ghazi started having a theoretical, I mean, a theological conversation.
And I was like, what is happening here right now?
And then we left.
And he's like, dad, I think Prince Ghazi is like one of the smart.
He might be the smartest guy I've ever met.
He's so smart.
You're like, wait.
Dad, no.
I'm not yours.
Dad, he might be better than you at Superman too.
But that was really my journey.
And it was really about being a father and realizing that I'm the one who's going to have to teach him things and explain stuff to him.
And look, he still struggles with his faith.
I mean, as we all, I think that acknowledging that we all do is part of the whole process.
I think my folks, my dad's 80 years old.
I think he's struggling with, you know, it's pretty real when you're 80.
It is.
Yeah, it's getting closer.
Yeah.
The clock, she's a ticking.
She's a ticking.
Yeah, figuring that stuff out.
Yeah, it's good to have, continue to have those conversations.
And I know with our kids, I know kids do drive that.
Like, it definitely drives your need to be theologically grounded.
Well, because what are you going to teach them?
Yeah.
No, it's true.
When they ask you those really good questions, like you don't have to have all the answers, but it's good to have some.
And so anyway.
And what about you?
Well, I was raised in a Christian household, so it's always been a part of my life as long as I can remember.
But similar to Dean, being a husband and a father, that really changes everything because you realize, because, you know, you're a boy and then you're a man and you're a husband and a father and you realize how serious you have to be.
I'm a boy.
And absolutely.
You're a fancy boy, not just a boy.
Very fancy boy.
But I think I realize what I have to do to be a husband and a father and what I owe them and all that.
And it's why I do what I do professionally, but it's why I do what I do in the home because everything was given to me.
I talked about this last time I was here with you.
It was all given to me by my dad and my grandpa and my going back all the thousands of generations of people who mostly suffered and starved and were killed by warlords and wild animals and just catching a cold that could die.
And the abundance and the greatness we have now, like, I can't be the one to break the chain.
You know, it can't, I'm not going to put my name on that.
I'm not going to be the one that messed up my line of people for going back thousands of years.
So to me, I constantly think about following God and being close to him.
And I have so much peace now.
You know, I have like more than I've ever had.
Leaving DC Comics was just a tremendous test for me because how am I going to make ends meet?
And I'm more blessed than ever financially, but also spiritually.
Like I don't get upset anymore.
I don't worry about things.
I just realize God really has had it in his hands the whole time.
And I was trying to help him.
And it's kind of like a little kid trying to help their dad do something.
He's like, just let me do it.
And then he curses when you drop the flashlight.
That's just what my dad does.
It's like that, you know, that whole let go in my God thing.
You know what I mean?
But I really, it's, I think the reason, this is just a theory I have.
The reason God made us have children instead of the stork bringing babies or cabbage coming out of the cab patch.
I think so we would have them and then we and we would understand just a fraction of how he feels about us.
Yeah.
Because once you have children, you see what pure love is.
There's no transaction.
I don't want anything from my kids.
I want them to be better than me, more successful, live longer, be healthier, be happier, be closer to God.
Except absolute obedience.
Yeah, that's mixed.
But it must happen.
And you think having kids will change you?
Have a grandchild.
You know, my grandmother.
Right, big baby.
I can't stop sending you pictures of big baby.
And he does the voice for her, too.
That's right.
I'm not sure.
Well, here's the story.
My granddaughter, when she gets upset, she grows 75 feet tall and she stops around the town and smashes everything.
So she's a guest on my YouTube show.
If you're on YouTube and look for Gabe, I'll tell you, but I have a great YouTube channel.
It's a lot of fun there.
Subscribe.
But yeah, Big Baby, she's a guest on the show.
But having a granddaughter now, she's eight months old, it's just amazing.
And just the love you see in their eyes and everything.
She has four teeth right now.
She likes to bite with them.
Four whole teeth.
Four little teeth.
She sits on my knee.
Two top, two bottom.
That's where they usually get like chips.
Yeah, and she has a gap between the front two.
It's beautiful.
That's actually my favorite when they just have the teeth.
And every morning I'll have my coffee and I'll be sitting there and getting ready to get to work, making comic books.
And she'll just sit on my knee and I'll have my coffee and just talk to her.
She's a good baby.
Yeah.
She's a good baby.
Yeah.
Like she's just chill.
Love my life.
She loves the baby.
The most beautiful thing.
And I think that's one of the things that's hurting society and causing so much woke is people are taking that devil's bargain of selfishness.
Never get married.
Never have kids.
Just me, And you make yourself miserable doing that.
And you think you're making yourself happy.
And you just have to go from one dopamine hit to the next to just stay afloat because you're miserable.
And then, and, you know, God says in the Bible, you know, loving people as yourself, you fulfilled all my law.
That's all you have to do.
You know what I mean?
So when you love your wife and your children and your fellow man and your people, and you love your fellow man by not making filth for DC Comics, you'll make something good.
That's how I can love my fellow man.
And the most important thing.
Or just mock all those woke ideas.
Right.
You do mock them.
God commands us to hate evil.
He does.
He does.
And when I get up and go to work, my kids know I'm going out there to fight bad ideas.
Right.
That's awesome.
Yeah, they know that.
That's what we do.
I wrote and illustrated with Eki on helping me Truth, Justice, American Way.
And it was like a comic book like Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, all that.
But it was wholesome and uplifting, but it was exciting and action-packed.
And he helped me promote it a ton last year.
And the response I got from people of this is amazing, something I can finally read to my kids.
It's so inspiring.
And like, that's why God gave us artistic talent, that he can act and that I can do this comic book stuff, writing it and drawing and all that.
Not so I can write filth and say, hey, kids, the world sucks.
Your dad's an idiot.
Like, come on, man.
This is enough.
You know, you know, that's also going to say just in this, in that, in our, in our project, it's clear.
You know, it's right and wrong.
Yes.
And you see clearly what is right and why someone's doing this and why the bad guy's doing this and it's for the wrong reasons.
Right.
And you see, okay, well, this, obviously, he's doing what he's doing and doing those things because he's fighting for something that's good.
He's fighting for something that's bad.
And it's real clear.
You know, it's, it's, and sometimes those lines can get blurry, but not so much.
And, oh, there it is.
And I'll give JPEGs to your whoever's awesome.
Yes.
So they music imagery in.
But I brought those covers there.
I just had the covers pretty good because I'm thinking of doing a glow-in-the-dark cover and then a foil covers all.
That's already for sale.
This is really cool.
But this is fantastic.
And the illustrator Akeon, he's just out of control.
And then when you guys publish this podcast, you guys can pop up imagery throughout the show.
I have a bunch of beautiful pages.
Definitely.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's I just saw those things yesterday.
Yeah.
Right.
Oh my gosh.
Be sure to check out the comic and be sure to subscribe to Gabe's YouTube channel as well.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
No, I was just making sure they hear it again to make sure to check it out.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yes.
Kill Wolverine.
Kill Wolverine.
That's right.
Dean Cane's better than you, Wolverine.
There he is.
Oh, Wolverine can't fly.
I guess you're not the best there is at what you do.
I guess whatever, Wolverine.
Good man versus Wolverine.
Let's see what happens.
You got to heal from that.
I'll say this.
If you're concerned about all the filth you see and people just walking into stores in California, just robbing them and the anti-family and all the misery.
Politics is downstream from culture.
People will be persuaded to believe about the world, what they consume.
So make this kind of art.
And if you can't support us and buy it from us so we can make more and we can turn the tide.
I want to go back to Frank Capra's Hollywood of It's a Wonderful Life.
Yeah.
That's what I want.
My favorite movie.
I don't cry every year at the end of that movie.
There's just dust in my living room when I watch that movie.
You know what I mean at the very end?
You know, I don't cry.
I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying.
It's one of the greatest movies of all time.
There's just dust.
Dustier.
Dustier.
It's the moment, though, they did it so well, is when everybody comes.
He doesn't want the help.
I'll do it myself.
And everybody shows up for him.
That feeling of.
Oh, I got the tingles right now.
Thinking about it.
That thing you're just, you know, there's something about that when everybody else realizes what a good person you are and you are in a moment of need and you're too proud to ask for it.
And then everyone shows up for you.
It's overwhelming.
Yeah, I'll cry.
I can cry.
I do cry.
Right.
I cry.
I do.
I'm a cry.
I cry more at movies than I do in real life, I think.
I think I tear up more watching movies.
Me too.
I am half Arab, half Mexican.
So I got macho with both barrels.
So I do not cry.
You don't cry.
On the inside.
Yeah.
I just go in the shower.
It's probably just it.
Just push it down until it's all deep inside.
Push it.
I promise myself.
I wouldn't cry.
Yeah.
Go to bigmancomics.com and pre-order it right now.
Yes.
Oh, and use promo code.
My wife came up with this code, Babylon Free, and you'll get $10 off a minimum $50 order.
And then my web guy, my IT guy that does all the coupons and all that for the website, he said, don't use free because you're not giving anything away free.
You're just giving a discount.
I said, yeah, but it rhymes.
So I'm fucking my web guy, who I love.
Rich is an amazing web designer.
Yeah, you go to bigmancomics.com.
You get Dean Kane, All-American Law Man.
It's going to ship at the end of the year, beginning of next year, like winter.
We'll have it done, printed, and shipped out to you.
Winter gives us like all the way to the end of like February, really.
I'm like, March.
Winter ends mid-March.
So we're giving ourselves some room here.
Winter is coming.
Please order that and support this kind of art.
I walked away from DC Comics on principle.
He does what he does with all his acting on principle.
We don't want to make filth, either of us.
We want to make great art.
We're highly skilled, both of us, but we only want to make good stuff that lifts people up.
So we need your support.
So support us today, please.
That's wonderful.
I actually love what you just said.
I think it's great.
A lot of people are in the same boat where they're making decisions between what types of stories they would like to tell.
And I think it's great that you're out there doing it.
You're risking, you're taking hits because you're not taking parts that you would otherwise have taken.
I've had that too, where you turn things down because you can't.
It's like, well, I can't tell this story.
I can't be part of this.
Yeah, and I think it's really impressive.
And I look up to you guys for doing that.
I think it's a great thing.
We also look up to us because we're taller than you.
We are physically and figuratively.
We both look up to you.
You told me that great Fred Comics.
Ladam looks up to me.
And I just want to point that out, Adam.
That great Frederick Douglass quote about, I will do good.
Yeah, he said, I will.
I'm going to mess it up a little, but I'll get close to it.
He said, I will work with anyone to do good.
I'll join with anyone to do good and with no one to do bad.
Right.
And that's the funny.
It's like, I'll partner with, you know, people, I've done things with people.
Like, why would you talk to these people?
Why would you, because it does good.
I don't care what they've done here.
This does good.
And this is what I'm trying to do.
And I disagree with this, but I can work together toward this end.
And at the same token, I'm not going to work with people that I really like if they're doing bad.
What they're doing is going to come up and be bad.
I won't do it.
It's like, that's good.
And when DC Comics tells me I'm going to work on a Superman book where we're focusing on the sexuality of an underage person, I tell him you can do that without me.
Okay.
I'm not grooming kids.
And what in the world is your problem?
You know, over there at DC Comics.
He just looked right into the kitchen.
Yeah, I did.
And that's for you, Jim.
Oh, there it is.
I'll call you out.
No one calls him out.
Hey, Jim.
No one calls him out.
You know, he's the creative director of the video.
What's wrong with you?
So that's disgusting, man.
They're kids.
It is.
It's not what comics are about.
We're joking, but that is actually one of the things that really lights my fire.
I get pretty mad at him.
Leave kids alone.
You know, geez.
Yeah, there's a there's a in that vein, part of what I do as a police officer is we work in the Internet Crimes Against Children group.
So we'll create a profile, no time at all.
You've got 15, 20 people contacting this profile.
You know, I'm a 13-year-old kid.
I'm on my own.
My parents are full of it, you know, blah, blah, blah.
People, boom, just predators show up so fast.
So one of the things people don't realize is how much.
Much access these predators have to your children, if you have an Iphone, if you're on these things.
So one of the another group that i'm working with i'm not meaning to pull away from what we're doing here is a group called TRUE PLAY Games T-r-u-p-l-a-y, and TRUE PLAY is uh, run by this gentleman, Brent Doosing, and it's it's basically what you know.
You used to be able to stick your kids in front of the Disney Channel.
Yeah, you just know they're going to see stuff and it was going to be all.
You never have to see him again.
Never worry about yeah, you never.
Which is important yeah here, that's what happened to us.
Put them down when you see him at the high school graduation.
How to go son this this uh this, this game uh, platform is fantastic because it's, all you know biblically, biblically based.
So everything you're doing, you're getting these these, these stories that are in that in THE world and getting teachings from the Bible um, but it's not banging you over the head with it um, and it's also it's not multimedia online so that there's nobody can contact your child, it's it's, it's completely um um, encased in in that sense.
So no one's going to be reaching.
So if they're playing that your, your kids, are not going to be contacted by outsiders, you're not worried that they're going to go meet up with someone, which is horrific and and even like Sound Of Freedom.
When you see that movie that's gotten so big now, which i'm so happy for, but you know, Disney owned that.
They had it sat on it for five.
Why wouldn't they release it?
Five years they had that film and then it comes out and does so well and people pay attention to it, but then, because they're a bunch of groomers well that's, that's the scary thing.
You know, actually we're so against, and this is one of the platforms.
My wife runs a homeschool program, I do.
One of the platforms that we have is that we don't even want kids to have cell phones, like we don't want them to be, have access to technology right um, because you, you're giving the entire world access to your kids, not not just the other way around.
I mean, like you're giving your kid access to the weirdest, craziest stuff that's ever existed and you're also giving access to your children, and so we, we want our kids to just kind of grow up analog and kind of grow up the old-fashioned way, watching Indeanna Jones on VHS.
Yeah, like.
That's, that's what we like.
But if they do want to play video games yeah, they can do that on this platform.
True Play, and there's nobody can contact them and they're learning things like you know.
This one, this one character Lucas, wants to go build this like he.
He's a they're all little animals in this one little thing, and Lucas is a squirrel, wears an alligator costume whatever, but he wants his dad.
His brother died and he wants to be able to fly up to heaven to see him.
But the other guy was little Buddy's like.
Well, i'm not sure that's what they mean by this, and so it's.
It's those things are brought up and told in a way that the kids can that's cool can listen to and understand.
What's it called?
True Play, True Play, all right, True Play, check it out.
Now for the last part of our little podcast.
We have one.
We have a gift for you.
Oh, can we have there they are.
What is it?
Yeah, this is Travis, that's my name.
What's going on?
How are you good to see you?
Yeah, all right Travis, on behalf of the Babylon B, we wanted to give you a gift.
That's definitely not Krypsnite.
Is it gonna explode?
No, open it slowly, it's no, it is ticking.
Oh, is that bad?
I don't even know what this is.
I don't either.
I don't either.
I'm a little nervous.
I know what we've signed on for.
Holy!
Oh, no!
What are you doing?
No, what are you?
I dare you!
Burn my hands!
Burn my neck!
What's in the box?
Oh, yeah!
why are you doing that to me look at that he's not even asking his name he's not even asking i'm gonna kick his oh yeah that's Lex Lutheran, actually, my name is Lex Luther.
There you are!
Do it!
All right, so this was all a setup.
So now we have a, we end all of our podcast with our 10 questions.
So we'll ask the original 10 questions for Dean.
Yes.
And then we have our second set of 10 questions for Gabe because he's been here before.
The 10 questions.
So first for Dean.
Can you say this real quick?
Yes.
If you time these segments out, I think mine will be roughly half of what his answers were.
Let's try to keep them all.
Let's try to keep them all pretty quick.
And this is a lightning round.
Lightning round.
You have to do it in a Raider voice.
Raider fan voice.
Vato.
No.
You listen to me, fool.
Yeah.
Pretty good.
Dean, have you ever seen that?
Oh, it's all right.
But it has been a lot of fun.
Good.
Good.
Have you ever met Carmen?
Carmen?
Yes.
Which Carmen?
This is a Sutton singer from the 90s and early.
Yeah.
Oh, there.
No.
No.
Okay.
No.
I thought it was Carmen Electric.
My answer was yes.
Have you met her?
Yes.
I'd rather meet Carmen Elector.
Me too.
I was kind of trying to throw this.
My wife would rather I met.
Yes.
I think all of our wives.
Ah, that's good.
I know.
Are you a Calvinist or an Arminian?
Or an Armenian?
Arminian.
Arminian.
Okay, so are you a free will guy or are you a predestination guy?
I'm a free will guy.
Okay.
It's interesting because you touched the John Calvin as you said that.
Yeah.
You touched on the book.
You said, no, I'm not John Calvin.
John Calvin would be a Calvinist.
Yeah.
He's not looking at me anymore.
You can add one book to the Bible and forgetting the rule that you're not supposed to add stuff to the Bible, what would the book you would add be?
Dean Kane all American Lawman.
Oh, it's a different book.
It's apocryphal.
Oh, man, that's a tough question.
I wouldn't add anything to the Bible.
Yeah, that's a rough.
So what's your favorite book that everyone should read?
Or something you think would benefit Christians or a reader of the Bible?
Holy smokes.
That's also just massive.
It's a big question.
I mean, it's a humongous question.
I would hate to try to suggest for someone what to read.
What's your favorite book?
What do you like?
What has had the most impact on you?
Even that's hard to say.
I mean, because at different times of your life, it's different things.
I don't have a favorite book.
I'm not going to say Isaiah.
not there's things and bits i don't want to i don't want to pick one that uh The Dresden files.
The Dresden files.
Okay, never mind.
All right.
So cigars or pipes?
Cigars.
You can hang out with an easier one.
Thank you.
You can hang out with any three people, living or dead.
You can't pick Jesus.
Who would you hang out with?
I picked Jesus' father.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Nobody's ever done that.
Well, that was one substance.
No, okay.
It's the same thing.
That's right.
It's like Clark Kennedy Superman, isn't it?
Yes.
Okay.
Wow.
I think it'd be great to sit down with one of the founding fathers of the United States.
Would be great.
So maybe George Washington himself would be pretty fantastic.
Man, you guys, these are rough.
I don't think about that.
Like which living or dead.
Living, there's pretty much nobody that I, because there's so many people that are so great in the past.
Could be your son.
In the future?
No, just he's my favorite human being on the planet.
Yeah, there you go.
Yeah.
Man.
Wow.
I don't want to make a bad choice.
Okay, don't be afraid.
No.
Everybody stopped watching it.
No.
You said I was going to take a segment on it.
I didn't know there were any tough questions.
I thought it was type of cigar.
I can do that.
That's an easy stop.
Give him football questions.
Yeah.
He had a freak safety.
They use their head a lot.
Yeah, one of the founding fathers.
So let's go with George Washington.
Let's go with George Washington.
Let's go with one of the old Superman actors.
Would you want to meet one of them?
I met most of them.
I would have liked to have met Christopher Reeve.
I didn't get a chance to do that.
And that was one of those things that I do regret.
So we'll put Christopher Reeve in there.
But then I have to go back to like a, you know, I got to go way back to some.
I'm a history guy.
So a history maker guy, but I got to figure out which one it would be.
I'll pick an, I don't know, man.
Shoot.
I'll even not even go back to history.
I'll just go back to like Sigmund Freud because he's weird.
Okay, there you go.
Teach me something about myself.
Yeah.
No, I like it.
All right.
So whiskey or beer?
Whiskey.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
I'm not a beer guy.
Not a beer guy.
I'm not really a whiskey guy either.
Tequila, but that doesn't stop one of the words.
Gotcha.
Cleaner.
What's the first thing you would do if you were president?
Woo!
First thing, that has to be the first thing.
Immediately secure the border.
Good.
That's a good answer.
I'm sure this is something that you have.
Have you ever punched anybody or been punched?
What's the story?
Yes.
How much six, 10 hours?
Yeah.
What's your story about getting punched or punching someone?
I did get in a fight in college where I never noticed that I got punched.
I know I got punched because I felt it, but I never saw it coming.
All I ever saw was it coming away.
I was like, how does he keep doing that?
It didn't hurt me at all.
I was just like, every time I was trying to get him, I just, and there was a fist going away.
I got a lot of fights as a younger person because a football player.
We'd fight, you know, over positions and things like that.
So yeah, I've had some big old brawls.
That's good.
I don't get hit with the right.
I'm just telling you that because a lot of those guys didn't stay on their feet.
So yeah, I've done a lot of those things.
I'm not proud.
Yeah, I am.
I'm most of it.
You should be proud.
I'm proud of most of it.
One of them was saved my buddy in college.
And it was a, I did not want to hit this man.
Sounds like he did.
And after I hit him, he wished that I hadn't.
Yeah.
When he woke up, he probably wished that he hadn't because he went sleepy.
Bye-bye.
Immediately.
Oh my gosh.
Knocked him out with one punch.
Yes, very much so.
But my buddy got his eye got completely like blacked out.
And we went to football camp the next day.
So he just got roasted constantly.
They're like, Sean, why don't you start a fight right now so Dean can end it for you?
Oh, yeah, it was bad.
Sorry, Sean.
Did you carry Sean out, you know, like they carry the best friend in college too?
He's a little guy.
I know that's funny.
My best friend in the world, the Filipino guy you put in the padlock at my wife's dinner.
In a nice way.
Right.
Yeah.
He's not racist against Filipinos.
He loves the Filipinos.
Okay.
Love Christoph, Chuck Filipino.
But we were friends.
We met in fourth grade.
And in fourth grade, I was five foot eight already, you know, and he was like literally four foot something.
And some kid was picking on him.
And I beat the crap out of that kid.
So I've saved my brain.
There you go.
So I know what it's like.
That's great.
That's a great story.
Next question.
One concert, any band in history, who do you see?
Band or musician.
Holy smooth.
Wow.
Taylor Switzerland.
No.
Why can't I get tickets?
You can't even possibly do that.
Man, I mean, the first concert I ever saw was the greatest concert I ever could have seen.
1977.
It was Kiss.
Oh, wow.
And I thought it was the greatest thing ever.
So you can't beat that excitement.
In fact, we got up.
We didn't realize they were going to be encores.
My brother and I got up.
My uncle, who brought us, had to sit like a little wave.
He's like, sit down.
I was like, why would we sit down?
The concert's over.
And they came back on and we had to stand for the encourse.
But that was amazing and that excitement.
But the one I want to see the most right now coming up, even though you didn't ask me that question, is Bruno Mars.
I live in Las Vegas now.
Everybody comes out there and he's so talented.
Yeah, I saw him once.
It was great.
Yeah, it was awesome.
Such an entertainer.
Great show.
Little fellow.
Yes.
Little guy.
Little tiny little guy.
He is very small, dude.
All right.
A lot of talent.
Last question for you.
And this is the big one.
Do you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior?
Oh, yeah, that's easy.
Thank you.
Give me an easy one.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes, we got him.
Yes.
And then for Gabe, we have our second set.
That's his favorite Bible book, which was an added first one.
I find sometimes the second 10 questions, there's some that are more fun, I feel like.
I think they're, well, I think they're just newer, but also I think they're kind of, they're good conversation.
Yeah.
One, what was your first job and your first car?
Two questions.
I think so too, but according to our list, it's not.
My first job was working in my grandparents' tortilla factory.
And I also threw newspapers at the same time.
So I was like 12 years old.
You ever get them confused and throw a tortilla on someone's doorstep?
So I think the first thing I ever did was work in a tortilla factory.
Nice.
And then I started.
I've had a job since I was 12.
That sounds made up.
Right.
And the first car?
First car.
I inherited my brother's.
When he went to college, I was a year behind him.
So he drove us around before he left.
And then when he went off to the University of Northern Colorado, I stayed in San Diego.
And I got his 1979.
Now back up late.
1979.
This is 1996.
1979 Burgundy, Toyota.
A Toyota Burgundy.
Corona.
Wow.
Corona, not a Corolla.
I had a Corolla.
Corona.
The Corona.
The Corona is.
Like the virus.
Yeah.
That's right.
That's what it means.
Oh, that's amazing.
Well, okay.
So what's your, this is my favorite question.
What's your, what's your karaoke song of choice?
Oh, I don't have one.
And it can't be Lisa Loeb.
When I worked at DC Comics in San Diego, we would go to the Ramada on the 8 Freeway in San Diego.
And there was a little place called the Tickled Trout, like the size of this room.
Tickled Trout.
It was like a diviest dive bar in the universe.
And people would scream their hearts out doing karaoke.
And I would just watch and laugh for like three hours because most of them were terrible.
I like to watch.
I love watching it.
I've never done karaoke.
I've never sung it.
You know, I'm too good for karaoke, so it's never a fun thing.
Whatever.
Next one.
That's the concert I want to sing.
That's the concert I want to sing.
I did it.
I would do the Whitney Houston Standard I Will Always Love.
Yeah, it's an easy song to sing.
I need to be singing.
I can't sing, so I'll do one of the hardest songs.
I'll do that or four non-blonde.
What do you mean?
She's just the greatest female singer of all time.
You should go for the gambler.
There you go.
I could do Conway Twitty the Rose.
Oh, yeah.
There you go.
The Devil Kim Devil.
You're being sent to AOC's Gulags.
You're given a VHS player on television.
This is almost possible.
What's the one movie that you're bringing on VHS to watching the VCR?
Is it Indiana Jones and Last Crusade or Romance and the Stone?
I don't know.
Last Crusade's better.
I think you can't.
Those are not the same.
I think I'd give the nudge to Last Crusade.
I think so.
That or Blues Brothers.
I can't get straight hits.
Okay.
I can see that.
Those are some of my favorite movies.
I love the Last Crusade.
So Last Crusade is legitimate.
If it's only the old VHS, you could probably record Last Crusade and then get a half an hour of the next before.
You get that first sequence of Romancing the Stone.
So Daniel.
It's kind of steamy one.
Yeah, the steam one.
The videotapes, so they lose the magnetism and they go away.
Yeah, that's true.
What's to eat in the gulag?
Porridge.
Oh, obviously.
Yeah.
And the clothing situation is very tall.
I need big shoes.
Oh, you're going to need one of those jumpsuits.
Okay, so what's the dumbest thing you did as a teenager?
Oh, boy.
Oh, wow.
Thank God I didn't get that question.
Dumbest thing I did as a teenager.
I would get my Aunt Martha, rest in peace, to check me out of school fake sick so I could go to my girlfriend's house in the middle of the day.
My gosh.
That's not even that bad.
Your girlfriend who was not in school.
No.
Good point.
She was older than you?
Was she graduated?
She was just dropped out.
We just, I mean, there's a reason I had a kid at 18.
Gotcha.
You know, that was turned out good.
My daughter and my son are great.
But looking back, it probably wasn't a wise choice to be skipping school to, you know.
So she was skipping school too.
She wasn't all kinds of things going on.
We don't want to know anybody.
Now to a wholesome topic.
You have a gospel tract and Ray Comfort.
You can go back in history and convert any three people to Christianity.
Who would you convert from history?
Oh, most.
With Ray Comfort.
Well, the person that has done the most damage in recent history would be one, Barack Hussein Obama.
Oh, yeah.
So we would want to prevent that horrible damage he's had on the culture.
And he can pretend he's a Christian all he wants, but you know, a tree by its fruit.
Who else?
Some hot takes.
Wow.
Hey, the truth sets is free.
It's true.
I didn't make it true.
If you got him early enough, you might be able to stop him from fantasizing about making love to me.
That one, we've got to uncover that.
Unwrap that onion.
Just don't go paddleboarding.
Oh, Ray Comfort would be there.
Have you ever looked with lust in your heart?
Do you guys know Ray Comfort?
No, I've heard the name by the way.
Oh, you got to look him up.
He's an evangelist.
He's a street preacher.
Yes.
Yeah, Kiwi.
He's in New Zealand.
Yeah, I see that.
I don't know who he is before.
Yeah, he's a Kiwi.
I didn't.
No, I mean, he's famous online.
Yeah, you got to check him out.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm serious, but halfway joking.
I think it's too real of a question.
I'll have to abstain from answering the rest of it because I'm thinking some things now.
No, no, just to answer.
Huh?
I just answered.
Take the risk.
Muhammad.
Oh, it's not that.
It's not about taking the risk.
I mean, I was at the, that was going to just be bringing up.
I think mostly leaders, you know, because leaders need to be of God because look what they can do to so many people.
So I would, I don't know, just more leaders that have, I guess you go for some of the huge communist leaders so they wouldn't have hundreds of millions dead with Tommy.
So Mao Tisong, sure, and, you know, maybe a Gaddafi.
Maybe a Gaddafi so I could have met my Libyan family instead of them murdering my grandfather and killing my dad's friends.
And I've never been there because my dad's on a kill list of Gaddafi.
So maybe stuff like that, I guess.
Not a good time to go now.
So yeah, world leaders because they have too much effect on people.
Man, that's crazy.
I'd say tongue's a good one.
So if you could live in any book or fictional world, so you can actually just enter into that universe, which one would that be?
I wouldn't want to go anywhere with magic and space and lasers and all that.
There's too much danger.
It's exciting to watch.
I don't want to be involved.
You know what I mean?
I'll watch, but I'm not getting involved with, and I hate Harry Potter anyway.
But it's so boring.
Yeah.
I've never watched a Harry Potter movie or seen that.
I've never read a book.
I've never read the movie.
I've seen little tiny bits of it.
I've never watched one.
Wow.
I'm the only one.
I'm the only one.
My son didn't like him.
You're always looking, Harry.
Harry.
I don't know.
Just, again, go back to like Indiana Jones.
No, I go into Hong Kong in the late 80s with Jean-Claude Van Damme and watch those illegal tournaments.
So you don't think that's dangerous?
I'd just be one of the guys in the crowd.
And you know, there's always the guy that's like waving all the money and everyone just hands him money to bet and they keep track of what nobody's bet was.
I don't know how they do the betting of these illegal.
It really happens, though.
I'm not sure about it.
I did it in Thailand and I was making bets on.
You've been to an illegal Kumite?
No, it's not illegal.
This was legal with like the Thai fighters, but then the money was going out.
Because we're on video, it was not illegal.
It's not illegal.
It was not totally illegal.
I am an officer of the law.
You've been to the illegal kumite in Kowloon City in Hong Kong.
I've heard stories.
I've heard stories.
That's where I would go.
I'd go to Kowloon City in 1988 and watch Van Dam fight Chong Lee in Bloodsport.
Wow.
So that, oh, yeah, that is a fictional world.
Yeah, that's true.
That is.
And I'd get the heck out of him.
Because he's more like a ballet dancer than an actual fighter, isn't he?
Don't you ever talk about it.
Don't you, Daddy?
That was God.
Watch what you say about him.
I'll shoot you in the face even blind.
Do a show Wednesday night, 6 p.m. Pacific on my YouTube channel, search Gabe Beltib.
He's been a guest.
I have.
Frequent guests.
He'll come back again.
And we review 80s and 90s action.
I want to be on the show.
You can be on the show.
And the show is really just improv comedy.
We talk about the whole movie we just made.
You're too talented for that show.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm not funny enough.
Number seven, if you were elected pope over all of Christianity, what's the first thing you would do?
Pope of Christianity.
Pope of Christianity.
There's no pope in it.
It's all hypothetical.
Yeah.
So if Christianity had a pope.
If there was one Pope who was, if there was a Christian Pope.
Well, I hate to be like a party pooper or a wet blanket, but I think a Pope over Christianity kind of anathema to the idea of having a personal relationship with Christ.
Me bossing people around in this and that.
I think I'm supposed to be a guide and a leader as a father in my home and then a man in society I lead.
But I think being authoritarian and giving orders from on down on high, like I have God's phone number and other people don't, I think that's the wrong way to look at it.
So I know that's not a fun answer, but I guy who wrote that question I had.
I wouldn't take the job because I don't think it's proper.
But you kind of did take the job as a father.
Sorry, this is my son.
This is the only one I'll answer ever.
You okay, buddy?
I have to call you back.
I have to call you back, Kevin.
He's in the middle of a podcast.
It's the only one that rings the podcast.
Yeah.
I don't want you to get that close to the end.
No, that's so funny.
God in the middle of the podcast, Jack.
Is there a problem with Christianity that you would fix?
There's nothing wrong with Christianity.
We're practicing.
There's something wrong with humans that were flawed.
Like people say, oh, Christians do this.
So do Buddhists and Muslims and atheists.
Everyone does all the same things.
And that's why we need Christ to redeem us.
Ephesians verse 2.8, we're not saved by works.
We're saved by grace.
God died for us.
You could never do anything to get yourself into heaven.
Ain't going to happen.
It took his sacrifice.
So, no, I don't want to chastise Christians any more than anyone else.
I think all human beings need to focus on loving God and letting him put his love through them out into the world and not the postmodern idea of love where everything's about being nice.
Like if your kid is crying, you have a little kid and they want cake for breakfast instead of a nutritious breakfast and you give it to him because you don't want them to feel bad.
That isn't love.
That's actually hatred of your child.
So all this being nice, this virtuous signal politically correct, it's actually narcissistic hatred.
You're doing it for yourself.
Yeah, that's true.
You know what I mean?
So when you love people, there's a stern hand.
You're afraid of the reaction.
All right.
So what's one thing that everyone else likes that you don't get?
Oh, seafood.
It's disgusting.
And if you like it, you're gross and you like stinky food.
I love how quickly he answered.
I was expecting Harry Potter after.
That goes without saying.
Seafood is a God hid that stuff under the water for a reason.
Thank God.
Think about it.
You can't breathe underwater.
They're underwater.
Dolphins can't breathe underwater either.
They can hold their breath for a moment.
What's your favorite fast food burger?
Dolphin burger.
Oh, I'm going to say this for my friends over at the Ripperverse, the great Eric July.
They're all Texans and they talk trash about In-N-Out.
Oh.
And they talk about Whataburger being better than In-N-Out.
So I would defend In-N-Out's honor.
How dare you, Whataburger?
How dare you?
I'm on Tim Whataburger.
Last one.
Okay, so you get to heaven.
What's the first question that you ask God?
Last question.
Wow.
So we're trying to end this podcast.
You just give me a question that's going to take an hour to think of.
God, what's your favorite fast food thing?
Yeah.
Isn't it not better than Waterford?
I've lived my whole life wondering this.
To back up one question is actually the brisket sandwich at Bucky's.
Oh, yeah.
It is very good.
Texan, huh?
Great.
I've had it.
I've had it.
It's very good.
Okay, it's delicious.
I have no idea.
I mean, I would have to think and think and think.
What would I ask?
I have no idea.
No idea.
I have no idea.
I mean, I get very serious when I think that.
Like, God, why wasn't I more loving?
Or why wasn't I?
And like, obviously the answer was selfishness or whatever.
But I have no idea.
But the fact that you're standing there with God answers a lot of people's questions right by itself.
Yeah, I would say, why me?
All right.
Well, guys, thank you.
Thank you.
There it is.
Why did the Broncos trade all those picks for Russell Wilson and then it was an absolute disaster?
You know, why did you think of it?
He's like, we haven't seen 2023 yet.
He's like, you'll have to let that go to get in here.
Anyway, thank you so much, guys, for tuning in.
It's been awesome to have Gabe and Dean here on the show.
Tune in next time.
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Yeah, at Real Dean Cain.
He's got a pretty spicy- Tell me what a terrible Superman I was when you disagreed with my political opinion.