In Christ Alone: Keith and Kristyn Getty At The Babylon Bee
Keith and Kristyn Getty visited The Babylon Bee to talk about good music that builds up the Church, really good Irish jokes, and what it was like to see Satan at the Grammys. They react to worship leader headlines from The Babylon Bee and that time The Babylon Bee inspired them to write a song that rhymed with 'substitutionary atonement'. The Gettys surprise The Bee with a live concert of In Christ Alone! To watch or listen to the entire interview, become a Babylon Bee Subscriber using the promo code 'PODCAST' at: https://babylonbee.com/plans?utm_source=PYT&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=description Follow The Babylon Bee Podcast: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebabylonbeepodcast/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/babylonbeepod Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheBabylonBeePodcast
Now, I played it one time for my youth group without purchasing a CCLI license.
I have to confess this to you.
Can you Venmo them now?
So I don't know how much I owe you.
Or do we?
Come in on their Diet Coke at some point.
We'll give them a Diet Coke song.
That's pretty great.
That's pretty good.
I think we're square.
Eat a good Diet Coke here in California.
And now it's time for another interview on the Babylon Bee Podcast.
Welcome to the Babylon Bee interview show.
We have here with us in studio Keith and Kristen Getty.
Keith and Kristen Getty are singer-songwriters from Northern Ireland.
They got their start together writing children's songs.
The first song they released was In Christ Alone, Easter of 2001.
Now, 20 years, 20 plus years later, and four kids later, they're still at it.
They're still writing high-quality hymns to bless the church and transform the culture.
We're going to talk about the team that they've assembled of singers and songwriters.
We're going to talk about their publishing company, their recent success being Grammy-nominated for the Confessio album.
They're also Dove Award-winning, and they also might know some good Irish jokes.
All right.
Well, we're sitting down today with Christian Getty.
I brought my piano player.
And you brought someone with you.
I'm the only guy who doesn't charge her for putting the piano.
works financially you know so you ride the coattails of pretty much you know i wrote I wrote one tune on the back of a Northern Ireland electricity bill and pretty much since then she's done everything.
He does all the that's kind of the impression we got.
You didn't manage to retain that electricity bill.
It must have been lost in the laundry.
I know.
You should have.
Well, just out of the blue, do you know any Irish jokes?
Well, I guess we're the Babylon B, so we're Irish, so we have to do.
Well, last week was St. Patrick's Day, so there actually was a joke scientist on discussing what the most perfect Irish joke is.
And apparently it's measured by simplicity of execution and the kind of joke that everybody, every age of every background, will laugh at immediately.
And it's basically Irishman walks into the library and says, fish and chips, please.
The librarian says, this is a library.
And he says, sorry, fish and chips, please.
So apparently that is the perfect Irish joke.
It's kind of wholesome.
That's a recipe for the perfect hymn then, right?
So I can catch on to you pretty quickly.
The perfect hymn melody, the perfect hymn melody, Jesus Loves Me, Amazing Grace, whatever, Christ, whatever you want to talk about it is, are the ones that you hear once and bang, you're in there.
So it's a kind of segue.
Simplicity of great art.
Simplicity of great art.
Make fun of Irish people and turn that into a moment of worship.
Oh, beautiful.
Take a collection.
It was H for Homeschool pause.
Let's just pause for a moment.
So y'all got your start writing songs together in Northern Ireland.
Can you tell us some of the, did you write songs about Leprechauns and Lucky Charms and Kenneth Branagh?
We don't have Lucky Charms.
What?
There's no Lucky Charms.
No, no.
So let me explain.
Corned beef and cabbage is a Yiddish meal.
And Lucky Charms is an American breakfaster.
But whatever makes it.
What about Potato Farrell?
Oh, yeah.
His mama makes some good ones.
Now you're talking.
Now you're talking.
So how did you get your start writing songs?
And did you start together or separately and then meet through songwriting?
Well, I've been writing for years.
I grew up and I was the oldest child of a music teacher and church organist.
Kristen was the oldest child of a pastor and teacher.
And so we kind of behaved with all the Christian oldest child things, you know, and kind of followed suit.
Although Kristen was an amazing singer, but significantly younger than me.
I know I look a lot younger than her.
By significance, he means five and a half years, but I guess whenever you're 18 and 24, when we first met, I was quite significant.
More significant.
More significant than.
And he was one that suggested that I started writing.
You were already writing.
And I credit Kristen's uncle for a lot of things, actually, though.
Her uncle's professor, John Lennox.
So if you've seen the Lennox Dawkins debates and Lennox hitchings, or sort of the program he made, Sorbo made a whole story, made it sort of his life story as a TV program as well, which is great.
And he's professor of maths at Oxford, but a scientist who studied with C.S. Lewis, believes in the faith, and his confidence in Christianity's truth.
Really, I met in the month before I went to college when I was still at high school, and I'd just broken into the music industry and was getting excited.
Some exciting things were happening.
And so that really sparked me becoming more and more convinced that the Christ who was prophesied, born, taught, lived, died, rose, was actually the hope for the world.
But that also we're living in the most exciting generation to be Christians.
Looking globally at Christianity, the growth of the Christian faith is unparalleled in human history, while those of us in the West are seeing significant decline, certainly on the fringes.
But the problem with that was with all the challenges, we live in the most exciting generation, we're also living in the most fast secularizing generation.
And with all this tension, I would be debating it.
I would be debating Islamic students, I would be debating atheist students, people of every background, and realizing that, man, I needed to learn.
You know, we needed, when it says, let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, we had to go richer and deeper in a really big way.
And yet, what was being sung in churches was just completely antithetical to all of that.
And the idea that the leaders of the next generation thought that to raise serious believers meant singing stupidity, you know, was just what was actually genuinely terrifying.
And so I broke into the music industry when I was a high school kid at 18.
And so I started then to wanted to write hymns.
And I wrote this collection of hymns in 2000, almost, I mean, they were kind of like rebel songs, rebel hymns compared to what was being sung in churches.
It's kind of a joke to think of them like that.
We sometimes call that.
Write old hymns to be a rebel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It really was.
And nobody would sign them, and we had to do a whole bunch of things to even get them recorded.
And then, you know, in God's Kindness and Christ Alone was the first one.
I have a funny story about In Christ Alone because I was talking to a guy at church and we were talking about our favorite old hymns.
And he goes, In Christ Alone, that's my favorite old.
And I was like, that was written like 10 years ago.
And he's like, no, no, no.
Google it.
He said, no, they just covered it.
It was 22 years ago, but you have no idea.
Well, it was, this was.
You have no idea how many places we came to.
And the sheer anticlimax when people realize that we're not dead.
Every other artist people want to meet, they meet us and they go, oh, hoping you were dead.
I thought you were dead, old, bearded white guys.
We are older, though, 22 years on.
You're not bearded.
They think you're Chris Tomlin.
You're covering In Christ Alone, which was from the 1800s.
I wanted to commend you.
This may be more of a comment than a question, but your songs are so biblical that they're they transcend context.
They're international.
Is that intentional?
I think some of the goals behind the writing were just extensions of what we felt and were excited about in church and what was our experience.
We're both from Bible churches.
The Bible was so, my dad's Bible teacher was such a significant part.
And so we took very seriously that idea that we would sing it and that in singing it, we remember it in a much more significant way.
We distill it.
It sticks around and then becomes part of our life as it comes in the songs.
And so that was just, it was a natural place to begin, right?
It wasn't that we thought, we didn't sit down and go, we need to make sure we write biblical hymns.
We just started writing songs and where do you go when you go to the Bible?
That's what we reach for.
But historically, historically, and this is what so concerns me, certainly with the Western church, but largely with the global church at the minute, is part of understanding our faith is song.
20% of the Bible is poetry and songs because God has made us that way.
We are made to grow deeper in his word by in part singing it.
And so if you're a leader out there of a church or of a family or of a movement, school group, whatever, home group, you know, we need to be saying, what are the songs that we are singing that our people will grow old with?
Do you know what I mean?
And it is a pretty crucial thing.
Well, my heart soared the first time I heard May the Peoples Praise You in church, and it did the build-up and then May the peoples.
And I mean, it's just, it's incredible.
It sounds exactly like that.
What it gives me encouragement for is that if the future.
You should record it with him next time.
I should.
If the future holds persecution for us, if we all find ourselves living, you know, sipping our cricket smoothies in Klaus Schwab's WEF, you know, if we're all part of a globalist, you know, persecution time, the songs will still, your songs will still apply.
They aren't tied to the current context.
If we get our digital currency shut down because of wrong meme, we'll still be able to gather as an underground church.
Dispensationalists?
Could you tell?
Are you a premillennial dispensationist?
Could you tell?
I just wanted to commend the sheer biblicalness of the hymns.
Again, they transcend nations, except when you do the Lai Di-Dai Dai or the Dulcimer.
That's pretty Irish.
Sure, you can't picture the persecuted Chinese church singing some of the stuff we were singing in the 90s about Jesus helping us have a better day with our morning coffee.
That's what I'm saying.
But to the point, I mean, we've been told, I haven't the evidence for it, but I know some of the publishing administrators believe in Christ Alone, for example, is sung more on a Sunday in China than it is in America.
Do you know what I mean?
And that particular song of his two or three of them were written on pentatonic scales.
So a pentatonic scale basically is the center of all folk music.
So it's been kind of cool to get to work, to get to work with believers around the world and help create singing vocabulary for them as well.
Now, I played it one time for my youth group without purchasing a CCLI license.
I have to confess this to you.
Can you Venmo them now?
So I don't know how much I owe you.
Or do we?
Come in on a Diet Coke at some point when we get them a Diet Coke.
That's pretty great.
It's pretty good.
I think we're square.
You do good Diet Coke here in California.
If it feels more sunny or something, it feels just more.
It's a little fresher.
It just feels freer.
So time has flown since Easter of 2001 when you released In Christ Alone Together.
You've now started a publishing company.
You've built up a team.
You've built up a team of singer-songwriters and you're in Nashville.
How has that journey been?
It's been kind of just a sort of unspectacular.
It's just been a gradual thing.
I mean, right from the start, we said, imagine a world in 2050.
Imagine what our grandchildren will sing.
And the great hymns of the faith and singing in scripture was in part to bring the Bible into people deeply, give them it deeply.
But it was in part something that was supposed to arrest the emotions as well.
And beautiful music does that in a way that allows you to sing them for life.
But also we sing the songs with our families and our churches.
And those were the three things that were really behind the songs that we wrote, the concerts we did, the recordings we did.
And even the sing conference was this bizarre gathering of theological people, of highly creative people, and people involved in local church worship and family life.
And it's an eccentric, almost comedic kind of collection and combination of people.
But I think that's kind of the exciting part of it.
And sing started in 2017.
Obviously, you know, my hero is Martin Luther and Christ Alone.
And then 2017 was the Reformation year.
And I wanted to mark it.
Luther bust.
Is that Luther?
And I wanted to mark it with the fact that he was ultimately, he was an Augustinian monk who was a musician.
And bringing congregational singing back was so much part of his thing.
And everybody was claiming Muther.
Conservatives were claiming him.
Liberals were claiming him.
Lutherans were claiming him.
Reformed Baptists were claiming him.
Everybody was claiming that politicians, Germans, non-Germans, everybody was claiming Martin Luther.
They were all saying he was the devil, he was the angel, whatever.
But nobody was talking about the fact that he was actually a musician and this is what had happened.
And I felt his message was as radical now on a global level as we look to try and build deep believers against the challenges that were against us, which, you know, he was basically against the world at that point.
And so the sing conference started then.
And there was such a gathering of these guys who were captured by this.
I think they began to talk to me about it first.
I can't remember how it worked, but Matt Papa, Matt Boswell, and Matt Mercker were the first three, and Jordan Coughlin had these conversations.
Let's sort of form a gang.
Let's gang up and put it all together.
And so they were the first ones.
And then it's just grown from there.
I think there's 12 permanent writers in the team and then a number of people who partner.
And we're working with Crossway to develop a sing hymnna, which will come out in 24, which again parallels Luther's hymn history.
Do you know what I mean?
And a new Psalter and helping people sing the Psalms and really giving people a canon of songs that they can sing with, songs from every age.
Obviously, we're trying to contribute a contemporary voice to it.
And when I say contemporary, I mean songs of the 21st century, not songs that sound like today.
But all the great hymns through history.
So that's just been the journey.
It's been a fun journey, hasn't it, sweetheart?
And those goals just remain the same.
You know, some of the old, the best of the old hymns.
You know, they speak richly of the scriptures.
They gather people in across the generations.
And so that's always been our goal.
We hit it closer sometimes than others.
Better times.
Yeah, they all think they know better.
People have caught the vision to say that, you know, Matt Boswell, Matt Papa, Jordan, I mean, in some ways, they're now the senior seasoned, they're the old guard.
And then you're bringing up talent like Skye Peterson.
My wife and I yesterday were watching her explanation of a song and then her magisterial performance of it.
Just thank you for gathering such a collection.
Did you see her interview with my daughter, Charlotte?
Charlotte interviewed her in I Am Not My Own.
Have you heard the song I am Not My Own?
She's fantastic.
She and Kristen recorded that.
My daughters love it.
Because as they get older, they love people like Skye Peterson, 20-year-old girl.
He's a phenomenal musical talent.
He's such a deep thinker and has beautiful thoughts on scripture and an ability to combine all those things.
And then she presents it so beautifully.
And for my kids and the next generation coming up, it's exciting to see someone like her and her thoughtfulness and watching our girls look to her.
That's just amazing.
And it's an understatement to say she stands on her own talent.
Obviously, her dad, Jordan Peterson, is well.
Andrew Peterson.
Her dad, Andrew Peterson, is obviously a titan of worship music in his own right.
Yeah, Andrew's really the, Andrew's really the master storyteller across the board, whether it's novels or movies or songwriting.
He's primarily, we call himself a singer-songwriter.
Although, to be honest, Is He Worthy will go down as one of the great, most unique congregational hymns of the last half century.
It's just that good.
My wife and I were just moved to tears when he came out to the homeschool conference in Ontario two years in a row, and we'd show up and we got to sing Is He Worthy? with a group of people who were all just blown away by it.
Yeah, that was a great song.
Do you know any jokes about rednecks?
Well, I had to because obviously the Confessio album that we did last year, which was really the journey of our journey of Irish music to America, it started with Confessio because Patrick, St. Patrick's first hymn, the first Irish hymn was Confessio.
And it finished with Kristen and Alison Christ doing In Christ Alone.
So it was kind of biographical in a way.
So I did.
There was one redneck joke I heard about the redneck whose daughter started to go to the local megachurch and he hated social climbers.
He hated dumb worship songs.
He hated it.
And he said, look, Dad, you've got to build a relationship.
You've got to do something nice and try and reach out.
So he goes, so he phones the church up and he goes, Ha, this is Chuck.
He goes, Can I speak to the head hog?
And they went, I'm sorry.
And he goes, I said, can I speak to the head hog of this place?
And she puts him through to the senior pastor's assistant.
And she goes, How can I help you?
And he goes, Ha, I'd like to speak to your head hog of this joint.
And she goes, Well, first of all, we don't refer to Reverend Dr. Smith as anything other than that.
And secondly, he doesn't speak to people unless he knows why they want to talk to him.
And he goes, Oh, I just sold one of my businesses and I thought it'll be a real sweet thing before Christmas.
I just cleared your whole building for you.
And she says, Hold on a minute.
And she goes back and goes, I'll put you through to the fat pig now.
I'll put you through to the fat pig now.
You do a great accent, I must say.
Did I rush it?
Was it a big one?
No, it was perfect.
We also have lived in Tennessee now for what, 13 years?
We tend to rush the we tend to rush the southern accent.
Oh, yeah.
Do you guys think we sound like that's what he thinks all of us sound like?
The redneck thing is so slow.
It's so cool.
Can you do a California accent?
Oh, no.
No?
No.
A girl's going to do a Valley girl accent though.
Oh, sure.
Which is just crazy.
Does it have the vocal rasp, the burn?
Do they have that?
What's that?
Charlotte, doesn't it?
Charlotte?
Oh, it's the vocal fry.
Fry.
That's the word I was looking for.
The girls on TikTok, you know, that are talking and kind of that valley girl fry.
What's the fry part, though?
What is that?
The vocal fry is the kind of, it's that the sentence is lifting up at the end of the day.
Oh, it's just almost like a Canadian.
I know.
I think that's why they call it fry.
I think that's what that refers to.
I could be wrong.
But when we sing, we all have like the same.
It's weird that.
Well, the Irish accent goes up at the end as well, but it's a different thing.
I heard it.
You're right.
Well, the whole funny thing about corporate singing is when we sing traditional hymns and the kind of the European classical tradition, everybody forms a British voice.
And when you sing pop songs, everybody forms an American voice.
So all Brits will sing like an American and pop music, and all Americans will sing like a Brit.
I had an American accent before I lived here.
Right?
Kidding to say that.
So confessio.
I mean, Irish-American roots.
Congratulations on the Grammy nomination.
I know y'all went to.
We're Grammy losing artists.
Y'all went to the event.
Did you get heckled by Sam Smith?
And aren't you grateful that the Grammys still celebrate musical craftsmanship and not hacky intersectional box checking?
Well, what was it like meeting Satan?
I mean, we were a speck on the horizon away over there.
They didn't put you in the front row.
Yeah, that was that part.
That work that part was pretty disgusting and pretty pathetic.
And honestly, it just inspires you to want to write better hymns.
And the majority of the Grammy ceremony and what goes on happens in a completely other room.
You know, 80-90 awards given, and maybe 70 are given in that room.
And some of the performances were there were amazing.
I think that was my sadness as well.
I was like, gosh, that I've heard such great music this weekend.
Why couldn't they throw that in the television?
Yeah.
But I think, you know, we've got to be smart as well because, you know, I mean, my little girl looked, well, first of all, my little girls wouldn't have got to see Sam Smith, but if they would have seen Sam Smith, they would just have gone, that's just a fat idiot.
Costume is pathetic.
Do you know what I mean?
The more seductive thing is how other forms of immorality and other forms of immorality and just greed and narcissism are glorified and made to look pretty.
And I think that's to me, as disgusting as that moment was, and I walked out when it happened, it actually isn't the most dangerous moment.
The most dangerous moment is how music subtly grabs a hold of us and how we have to be involved in what our kids are singing and involved in what our churches are singing.
And really, you know, I speak, one of the biggest concerns for me is how little senior pastors actually care.
When we first came to America in 06, the most common conversation I would have had with leaders was a pastor saying, you know, I want my music director to sing.
I'm so glad you're writing these hymns.
I want my music director to choose more deep songs because he does shallow songs.
The most common conversation I have now, almost 20 years on, is music guys going, we really love these deep songs, but our pastor wants us to do more shallow songs because we're trying to attract a younger audience and build an offering.
And so, you know, we need to do better.
We need to have higher aspirations.
And, you know, especially when you talk about the reform community, which I know some of your audience would be, you know, the idea that Luther Calvin, Knox, Jonathan Edwards, or Spurgeon or any of these people would have ever washed their hands of what the congregation was.
They were right in the middle of what the congregation was singing.
In fact, all five of them either created a hymn book or a psalm book for their congregation themselves.
They were so concerned.
So I think there's a social shift that I know some churches here in town have done, but the majority of confessional churches are not confessing the name fully enough when it comes to what they're singing.
Well, we at the Babylon Bee occasionally have observational humor about the foibles of worship leaders.
Would you like to read our first headline and catch the Getty's reaction to it?
Oh, yeah.
We want to get your reaction to some Babylon B headlines.
Congregation braces themselves for a rough seven minutes after worship leader says the next song is an original.
Any thoughts?
You know what?
For every you song you do, you should do three old ones.
Well, I don't know.
Yeah, you know, we're the new ones.
That's a good idea.
You know, we should encourage our congregation, our children to be creative.
But at the end of the day, I don't.
But not like that.
I encourage churches to have a core 50 hymns that they want to grow old with.
Then add to that some contemporary songs.
Then add to that some of your new ones.
A good mix.
You've got to have a good mix.
But yeah, yeah.
That's great.
Worship band continues shadow ban of bassist.
A shadow ban on Twitter.
Oh, I have to explain the joke.
This is going terribly on Twitter.
If you're shadow banned, that means are you available for like weddings?
A shadow ban on Twitter means the algorithm is burying your stuff.
So the church worship band is shadow banning the bassist.
Sorry.
That went well.
Do you all also trick your bassists and pretend like they're turned on?
Or do you also just keep them off the whole service?
They're pretty good.
Our best player used to play for Kelly Clarkson and then Gwen Stefani before that.
So he's pretty good.
Also, we have a phenomenal sign guy that's always going after maximizing the congregational sound and making the band supportive.
Gwen Stefani.
Gwen Stefani needs a bassist?
Out now, I know.
Apparently.
Yeah, she doesn't do as many hymns as we do.
You should have consulted me.
Different wardrobe as well.
Pick of those ones, or of one that's from your heart and mind.
I think there was an old one that was like, I don't remember the exact headline, but it was like a youth group that is still singing I Could Sing of Your Love Forever.
Like they're still like worship leader threatens, I will sing that was a different one, but there was one that was like worship leader.
There's they're cotton that look because I can sing and then they're stuck in it.
But yeah, substitutionary atonement.
Oh, yeah, we've got that one here.
I do remember that.
It's uh, yeah, uh, Keith and Christian Getty struggling to come up with a word that rhymes with substitutionary atonement.
So I had, I wrote this headline like in 2016 or something, and I was like, ah, it's, you know, it's, it's niche, it's niche humor, like substitutionary atonement, who's going to get that?
And then finally, I was like, ah, forget it.
This is my website.
I'm writing it.
And I wrote it.
I didn't think anybody would share it.
We wrote a song for you, didn't we?
And it was a day or two later, you guys put you guys actually wrote a song for it.
So we'll play it for our audience.
I don't know if we can play it here or not.
I only hope my only confidence there is no light or never memorial.
Sounds good to you.
So, what were the rhymes there that the answer to our predicament was predicament?
Okay.
Because I felt like a couple of them were more.
Oh, look at this.
I felt like a couple of them were more like partial rhymes.
I don't know.
You didn't have your head covered in that.
I was just like off the bus.
I wasn't like in the bath.
You're in a suit.
I don't know what there is.
Repeat and repeat again.
Atonement.
That's a nearby chapel at Southeastern Seminary with Danny Akin.
I mustn't have been there because I was in my best clothes.
I know, I did that because you were just doing the evening thing because you needed to be so focused on the evening event that I had to be morning chapel and you were sitting writing a funny song for Babylon B the whole time.
Well, I gotta say, that was we've had the president share our articles.
We've had Elon Musk.
Not the current president.
We've had Elon Musk share our articles, but this was the highlight of our right.
I'm serious.
I tell you, this was the highlight for me.
Yeah, that's awesome.
So now we have a musical segment.
Oh, wow.
Our editor-in-chief had the run.
We're continuing the fun.
Keith and Kristen Getty are here with us.
Now, Keith, we have what we'd like to do.
It's a segment called Chord Association.
Get your hands ready to tickle the ivories.
Give us the chord or these are not ivories.
This is a keyboard.
The keyboard has no ivories, okay?
And Yamaha's make motorbikes, just to be clear as well.
So, what chord or sequence of chords comes to mind when we say the following words?
Get ready?
Justification.
What chord or sequence of chords comes to mind when we say the word predestined?
When we say the word predestination, I have no idea.
I have no idea.
Predestination.
I don't know.
Perhaps a minor to a major.
I can't do this.
Okay.
I guess you just make something up.
Does this have to be in the show?
No, we can cut this.
Last couple, last couple softball questions before we bring in the team.
What's a favorite melody that you've ever written?
I can tell you one that we haven't.
Most of our favorite melodies are the ones other people write.
What I've learned as a publisher, I've got a real being a song.
People say, what's it like being a songwriter publisher where you're a writer, but you're also, you publish many other people.
And the greatest thing about it is there's this sinking moment in your soul when you hear this melody and you just know it's going to be amazing and you didn't write it because there's a part of your soul just is eating away.
Why did I not think of this?
And it's not even mental.
It's entirely fully sensual.
It's like every part of you goes, oh, how can I not have thought about it?
It's so perfect.
And you don't even, there are no words necessary.
There's no analysis necessary.
You just know.
Because the thing about the great songs of your life and the great songs of all the listeners' lives are when you think about them, you know the first time you heard them because they are that censorous.
They're beyond just analysis.
Because art is beyond analysis, ultimately because God is beyond our understanding.
And so that's how you know what a classic song is as opposed to a great song.
And because they have that thing that everybody knows the place they were the first time they heard it.
Absolutely.
What's a favorite melody that you not you didn't write, but it still means a lot to you?
Oh gosh, there are so many.
I think as writers for us, it's always the most recent song.
It's always the most recent.
One we did not write, he said.
What?
One that we did not write.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
For our own songs, it's almost the most recent song.
As long as I didn't write, I've been thinking a lot.
What are our girls singing at the minute?
I don't know.
I was going to start saying, My love is like a red, red rose.
Just do it again.
You changed my key on me, didn't you?
Sorry, sorry.
Honestly.
Is that the right one?
My love, is that right?
It's like a red, red rose that's newly sprung in June.
My heart is like a melody that's sweetly played in tune.
That's planting.
That's an old Scottish folk song.
You should keep singing.
That moves your heart.
That's Robbie Burns.
He may be the most powerful.
I love it.
He may be the least Christian person that ever lived.
That's just a gorgeous melody.
And it's been written.
It's just that power of that folk melody that sounds so fresh, even hundreds of years later, you know.
The Danny Boy that's not Danny Boy that you all wrote moves me.
What Grace is mine?
I like from the Confessio album, Walking Song.
The Walking Song?
Our girls love that.
We We the Woman.
That's another thing.
That's another thing.
Your daughters are always the best teller of honors because they don't care.
They just say they love a song and they don't.
But that's in every part of life, I suppose.
We were doing the Christmas.
Draw lines much easier.
We're in the Christmas Carnegie Hall show.
We're in the Christmas Carnegie Hall show.
And I always give my real pet talk.
That's always the big part of the Christmas tour.
And I was giving my pet talk, and one of my daughters, I walked out of the room and into my conductor's room, and I was kind of feeling pretty good.
And my daughter goes, Dad, you're not funny.
And I said, why did you feel you had to tell me that?
And she goes, because dad, I think you think you're funny.
And I went, okay.
Well, some people laugh.
She goes, no, your band left, but that's because you pay them.
That's dangerous.
That daughter of mine is still brutal.
She's still five years from being a teenager.
This is going to be a long 15-year decade.
You can only imagine what the future holds for her.
You're very perceptive.
There's a little bit of a girl.
No, no.
So in the same way as girls are about life, they are about songs.
You just know they just come alive with certain songs.
I would say girls and daughters and perhaps wives have that in common.
Gifted perception or verbal brutality.
And tremendous ability of words to convey what they're thinking.
Have you all ever pranked each other on stage, like thrown in an extra bridge or a surprise key change?
He hasn't showed up a couple of times and had to start a song.
The hardest thing I find about that is people are, you said about women, wives always telling you stuff is like, so Kristen obviously is the voice of the ESB.
So you go online and you press play and it's her doing it.
And so people are always telling me, you know, I think when I hear your voice read, it's like it just brings scripture alive to me.
And, you know, of course, you know, when I hear her talk about it.
How do you understand what it was?
One day we had an argument, which I'm pretty certain she was in the wrong with.
Okay.
So I went into the room and just was just trying to calm down.
And eventually I thought, you know, I'm going to turn to the word of God and accidentally pressed button.
And of course, there she was.
There she was patronizing me.
She's the Bible voice.
She wins every argument.
Do you ever have to confront a male and have a fist fight when he says, every morning I hear your wife's voice?
You say, hey, now.
And he said, I'm the Bible.
And you said that.
She read the entire thing with her head covered.
She read the whole thing with her head covered.
Well, that was such a delight to get to do that.
I just loved it so much.
I just turned 40 that year.
It was the COVID year, so I wasn't singing as much.
I was masked the whole time as well.
Head covered, mouth covered.
It was so wonderful.
I was asked that before even COVID happened, but we weren't singing as much.
So I actually had a bit, I think I actually did a number of what, you know, it was hard.
It's a marathon.
Yeah, it really was.
And so it was good.
I wasn't singing as much that year, but it was just such a delight.
And, you know, I've been a Christian since I was little, growing up in the Bible, but reading it out loud, hearing it read, you know, it impacted me.
And having read it through, you know, several times before, many times before, but I had never read it out loud like that.
And so it was just, it was very, it was a profound year.
It was a profound year.
I mean, that was, there was, obviously that's when he made the confessor record that got the nomination.
And there was that.
And many of our teams, some of the guys are here today, we got to meet that year.
But I think the most, the weirdest thing about that whole year was the family hymn sings.
You know, that happened every Tuesday night.
And so there was, it was St. Patrick's Day.
And Kristen said, I had to cancel my party.
And so I was in a bit of a mood.
And she said, let's sing hymns for the grandparents.
And then she said, let's put it on Facebook Live.
And I figured, well, nobody will watch, so it'll be fine.
And of course, it ran every hour on Fox News television on the Friday of that week, the whole day.
And we had to give comments about it.
And so by the next Tuesday, there was 900,000 people tuned in on Tuesday.
Crash Facebook servers.
Yeah, yeah.
So it was crazy.
But if you were, if some of your listeners were some of those people that sent us books on parenting or wrote us emails about how we didn't know how to do it, can I just publicly thank you for that?
It was very rot, every possible level.
You know, we did it initially at 7.15 in the evening because Tally, our youngest, she was not yet two and she was going to bed around seven.
And it was just us in the house with the phone trying to figure out how to do it because we're not very techie at all.
So that was also hilarious.
And then, you know, the girls, we kept them in one room.
We thought, well, they're running around.
Girls, why don't you come in and do it?
It was just, it was all very organic that way and a bit crazy.
And after a few weeks, it was crazy.
And with all the children, just, you know, please, I remember one week looking at them all going, please, none of you, this week, none of you pick your nose.
Like, it would be great to have one where nobody even touches their nose.
Could we try that?
You know what's a positive going back to the ESV reading?
You got your Read the Bible in the Year plan checked off.
Yeah, there we go.
Got that one.
You can get into evangelical heaven.
20 years on.
You all have been married and touring together.
It's so beautiful to talk with you.
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