Adam Carolla Talks Comedy and His New Daily Wire Show | A Bee Interview
Adam Carolla joins Ethan and Adam to talk about his new comedy show on Daily Wire, why the right will save comedy, and how he ended up working with Daily Wire. Adam Carolla is a comedian, podcaster, and all around truth teller. He gained fame for co-hosting Loveline and The Man Show. Adam currently hosts The Adam Carolla Show, a talk show distributed as a podcast, which set the Guinness World Record for "most downloaded podcast." Adam's new show Truth Yeller is available on Daily Wire, where he brings on comedians for stand-up and an interview in front of a live audience. You can find out more about Adam on his website. Watch Ethan on The Adam Carolla show here Ethan and Adam find out where comedy is heading now with woke mobs attacking comics and the left making it seem like they have a handle on all things comedy. Adam shares how the current culture has led him to working with The Daily Wire. Ethan and Adam find out about Adam's struggle with each political side finding something new to criticize him on. Adam shares about how he responds to criticism that he has changed even though he doesn't see it quite that way. Adam shares what it was like to work with Dennis Prager on their documentary, No Safe Spaces. Ethan finds out what Adam's opinion is on how the media portrays people on the right. In the Subscriber Portion, Ethan and Adam find out Adam's favorite Christian bands. Adam tells a story of a party guest leaving the biggest red wine stain on a white carpet in his house. Ethan and Adam end the interview with the ever great 10 questions with a great shout out to Dennis Prager.
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Wow.
Well, interview show.
I mean, we've had a lot of crazy guests, but today, this might have been the first time we went to a different location because of the level.
Yeah, this is a good one.
This is one of the best.
So we went to the domain of Adam Carolla.
Yep.
The man, the man-man.
Yeah, the man-show man.
Jokes.
He has the giant man-show sign still in his podcast studio.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I don't know that stuff.
I didn't watch that obscene show.
Oh, neither did I, but I loved seeing the sign and getting several pictures with it.
I do know about the girls on trampoline.
Yeah, so we interviewed Adam Carolla.
Yeah, now he has this great new show on Daily Wire.
It's called Adam Carolla Truth Yeller.
So we talked to him about that and working with Daily Yellow.
They're like old Yeller?
Yes, exactly.
But hopefully they won't have to put Truth Yeller down in the actual.
That's the complication.
I was actually at one of the tapings.
They taped us in Brea and at a comedy club.
And I was at the taping where Rob Reggle was his guest.
And it was very funny.
It was a fun show.
Yeah, that day.
So the reason that we taped there was because there's no tape involved.
But they had, so Kyle was supposed to go on, but then Kyle couldn't do it.
And then I couldn't do it because my son was having horrible surgery in areas of his body I don't want to talk about.
And then I could, you know, so then we moved it and then Kyle definitely couldn't do it.
So then I definitely had to do it and it was fine.
And then like, I was nervous.
I mean, I'm not nervous a lot anymore about microphones, but it's weird when you're going into their domain.
Like this is his playground.
Yeah.
He's like a guy who's like an XM voice.
You've heard it all your life.
You know this guy.
And he had their world record for the most downloaded podcast.
Like everybody listens to this podcast.
Yeah.
So there's something there, daunting to sit all of a sudden down the same level and act like I can keep up.
Yeah.
No.
So I did my best, but you can catch the, we could probably link that.
I was on his show for like an hour.
You know, I probably said like 13 words, maybe, but I tried to keep up.
And then afterwards, we interviewed Adam.
Yeah.
So here's the interview.
We talked about, and it was once again, Adam was with me, Adam Jenser.
Yeah, so there's two Adams and an Ethan.
There's an Adam sandwich.
Yeah.
Or no, Ethan Sam.
I don't know.
An Ethan sandwich on Adam, I guess.
I don't know.
Let's not get too deep into that.
We talked a lot about comedy, about how people are getting off in their own camps.
Yeah.
The polarization of Adam Crowley being in every man's comic.
Now he's having to go to the Daily Wire to make jokes.
So anyway, we get into a lot of that kind of stuff.
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His two favorite Christian bands.
His two favorite Christian bands.
Without further ado, Adam Crulla.
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Yes.
We did.
Kind of like that Nathan Fourier thing where you just go all out and down to every detail.
Recreate the entire situation.
Because we want to have the top podcast whenever you guys, you know, I don't know if you guys have been up there.
It's like when they did the West Wing and they did the Oval Office, but it was on a soundstage where they got every piece of trim right.
That's how they shoot Joe Biden's press conferences.
That's right.
They build it across from the White House.
Yeah, that's right.
We got a guy that looks just like Adam Kroll and talks just like him, too.
So that's pretty cool.
But yeah, thank you for letting us use your space here.
Yeah, my pleasure.
Really expensive facial surgery involved.
So you have a new show, Daily Wire.
And I'm interested in, I think one thing I'm interested in is like where comedy is heading right now, where guys who have been mainstream like yourself and now it feels like you see late night guys are going far left.
You see, people are like camping, getting into little camps.
And number one, like, I guess the question is like, should we just embrace it?
Is this just how we're headed?
And I don't know.
Is it the internet?
Like, what's driving us there?
And what do you make of that?
Just the way that we're all kind of having to, are we finding our own safe spaces, I guess is the question.
Yeah, you know, I don't like the notion of taking comedic voices and kind of putting them in this group or that group.
I think, you know, I've kind of said once they get to the comedians, it means they got to everybody because the comedians are sort of the last people you can get to.
But they got to everyone and then they went, who's left?
And there was a bunch of comedians.
And they're like, all right, now we'll set our sights on the comedians.
It also sort of created sort of a backlash that everyone is kind of experiencing now, you know, with your Dave Chappelle's, your Bill Maher's, or the fact that there's, you know, that you need to do comedy at a place like the Daily Wire.
But if you want to do comedy and there's no play at Netflix anymore or HBO or all the sort of wokenistas that are out there, then you end up going somewhere.
You don't go home.
You go somewhere else.
And so, you know, if you take an artist and you go, well, there's no play for you in this gallery or this museum, they're not going to throw away their paint.
They're just going to go, I'm going to find a gallery that'll take my paintings.
And that's where we're at.
Yeah.
And so when you're like the guys like Bill Burr and Dave Chappelle, I think what's great about them is they're still out there doing clubs and kind of talking to both sides, even if what they're saying alienates one side or the other at a certain time.
With something like your show at Daily Wire, are you looking to entertain just the conservative audience at Daily Wire or do you work to try to make sure like the comedy kind of appeals to everyone, whether they agree or disagree?
Kind of.
I'm just trying to get Ben's dad to laugh.
Is that a tough?
That's about it.
He's a tough nut to crack.
And so far, I've had little to no success.
But we'll keep our fingers crossed for the third one.
No, but I did, I did run into Ben's dad last time I was at the Daily Wire.
And he did tell me how much he loved my book and 50 Years Wall Be Chicks.
I was like, all right, I can get you.
You know, when you go to an entity like any entity, I think they have a general, it's beyond a vibe.
It's somewhere between a vibe and a, you know, code of conduct.
But it's like, you know, I imagine you're a professional football player.
You go to the Oakland Raiders.
That's one set of kind of vibe and conduct.
And you go to the Patriots.
That's another type.
And so places, so like when I go to the Daily Wire, I want to do the stuff I think's funny, do the stuff that sort of makes me laugh, do the stuff that I think could have some universal appeal, but it's not Netflix.
It's different.
And so you have to have that sort of in the back of your head.
And, you know, it's much like you do a, you know, you go down and do the comedy store.
The comedy store is right in the middle of the Sunset Strip.
That is a audience that is different than going on the road and going to Appleton, Wisconsin and doing a set at a club there, you know?
And you don't go, well, I'm going to do my Wisconsin set or I'm going to do my Sunset Strip set, but you have in your mind, like, this joke probably work a little better with these people and this joke would work a little better with those people, but they're all my jokes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I guess from there, I guess my question is like, do navigating the way the internet is taking things.
I guess that's the other thing that's interesting to me is, you know, it's possible that the daily, being on the Daily Wire, you might actually bring more people in.
You know, I've seen being at the Babylon B, we started out just trying to reach a Christian audience.
And our audience is like, if our video mentions, you know, faith stuff, it actually gets a much lower, you know, our umbrella has widened to just people who are sick of wokeism, basically.
And so I guess it, I guess I'm curious to see where it goes.
Are we heading towards a shift where the larger umbrella is just moving over here?
Or are we all breaking off in little camps?
And I guess kind of embrace it or I guess I'm just trying to, I'm playing around in my head with like, where do we go from here?
Because I think that, so me and Adam, a little background, you know, we met a little while ago.
I was on your show.
I come from Hollywood.
I made a cartoon in Hollywood and Adam worked on Ellen and Conan.
He's a writer.
And I think there's a, on one hand, we love making the jokes we really want to make that you couldn't do.
But on the other hand, there's this where we're kind of starting to lament the breaking up of like everybody getting a little bit more.
I think what I found hard, like coming from that background, it's like on Ellen, I would write jokes about both sides, but everything about the left gets cut and every joke about the right stays in.
And then when I've worked for right-wing platforms, it's like we can't do any joke that will alienate our audience too much if you go after that side.
And like I like going out to the clubs where it is just a mixed political audience and kind of, you know, doing doing the jokes, even if I know they disagree, because I think that, like, do you feel like I almost feel like comedy is losing some of its fun when the entire audience is on your side from the start?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I remember a million years ago, Dr. Drew and I were playing, I don't know, University of Texas or whatever.
And if there's any lull or anything, you just go hook them horns or something.
Yeah, the whole place would erupt.
So it's like you had kind of your safe word.
Yes.
And if the dominatrix was whipping your behind a little too hard, you could shout it out.
But it does become a little bit of, it can be like a little bit of a crutch, like you know what these people want.
And then when you get up there with a little bit of a crutch, and I think you could find a Hispanic version of this where the comedian breaks into a little Spanish and everyone just starts laughing because he's speaking a little Spanish.
There's a black, there's a fat, there's a gay and a lesbian.
There's sort of trucker hat wearing Donald Trump version.
There's a version of that and where you get to kind of fall back on your core a little bit.
And it is, it's definitely enticing.
You know what I mean?
Like you can quickly go there and it's a little easier.
And when you do go there, then you lose a little bit of your muscle mass.
You know, like, you know, I do, you know, I shot a special when I shot the Daily Wire special.
I knew who the crowd was.
I knew they were there to see me.
They're there to see the Daily Wire and mostly there to see Leno, I'm sure.
But like, I knew there'd be jokes.
It'd be easier to do.
And then, you know, you brought up Bill Burr.
I saw him Saturday night, went to play a show in Hollywood.
It was like Pete Holmes, Bill Burr, me, a bunch of other comedians.
Crowd was just sort of general Hollywood, you know, Saturday night crowd.
And it was like, oh, you're not going to get away with anything because these guys love Ted Nugent, you know what I mean?
Or the other, or love Ellen.
Yeah.
You're going to have to really bring your A game.
There's no home field advantage in that group, you know?
And then it's kind of like, well, geez, I got to just go out there and I got to try to be better than Bill Burr or Pete Holmes or went up before me or is going up after me.
And it does tend to kind of build that muscle versus a sort of geeter duh, you know, and everyone just starts laughing.
You know, that gets a little.
You don't need a catchphrase to sell merch after the show.
It's a little easier.
And I think comedians, but as human beings, you just start falling into this sort of familiar, oh, I don't have to work as hard.
It's a little easier.
I'll have my catchphrase.
It'll work.
I'll make either a joke, you know, about Biden or make a joke about Trump and I'll get everyone back on my side, you know?
Yeah.
But when the room is divided, you can't do that.
And it really kind of just makes you play a little better ball out there.
Because I was actually at the Rob Riggle taping that you did the other day.
Oh, you were right.
Yeah, yeah.
I worked for Conan, so I didn't go to the Leno one.
But what I appreciate about it a lot is even though it was, you know, that sort of Daily Wire audience that was there to see it, you could tell that you're somebody who comes from doing stand-up clubs and stuff like that, that it was material that could make a general audience laugh.
And I think that's kind of what's been missing and needed in a lot of conservative comedy, so to speak, because I think a lot of it is so much developed and geared all for like labeling someone, this is the Republican comedian.
This is the material they do.
But I liked seeing you and Rob.
There was political stuff, but then there's also just you guys, you know, riffing on the pictures, all the different bits that you did.
It was just humor that anyone would find funny.
Yeah, I don't think you should reverse engineer your comedy.
I don't think you should go, who did I invite to the dinner party?
What are they going to want to hear?
I should create comedy that would cater to those.
Like, I don't know, maybe, I don't know, thinking about a dinner party, but maybe just make the best, make the best food you can make and put it out on the table, but don't go who wants what and what is everyone's dietary restrictions and how many vegans in the crowd.
Like, you know, don't try to figure out what everyone wants to hear.
You're the comedian.
You know, you're not supposed to be asking them.
And also, it's kind of a fool's errand when you start thinking about what do they want or I'm going to give them what they want.
They didn't buy a ticket so I could figure out what they wanted.
They bought a ticket to see me do what I think is good.
And I'm the expert.
You know, these people are truckers and school teachers and airline pilots.
They don't know anything about comedy.
I'll let them know what's funny by telling them what's funny.
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Yeah, and I wonder if how much the internet plays into that because niche is getting bigger, right?
So everything's breaking up into what's your little interest in your group.
And no longer is the media telling you, this is the big comedian right now.
As much as they used to, you know.
So everything's driven by likes and things like that.
And so you are kind of looking at the menu of your guests.
You get a way more deeper look at what your people actually like when you post something online now.
And it's very hard not to serve that.
Yeah, again, I didn't, so I didn't or don't navigate Hollywood very well because I'm not trying to figure out what the Netflix people want to hear and then giving it to them.
And then I'm also not trying to figure out what the Daily Wire people want to hear and giving it to them.
You know, I'm getting redundant now, but my thing is I didn't want that out of George Carlin when I was growing up.
I don't want it now.
You know, I don't want to be that.
I just want to figure out what I think's funny.
And then it's my job to kind of craft it in a way.
And, you know, there's ways that you can take a little off here.
And, you know, the Daily Wire is like, all right, don't drop the S bombs and the F bombs.
You know, see if you can tweak it a little bit.
But it's sort of like, you know, you do terrestrial radio.
It's like, hey, you can't drop F bombs all day on terrestrial radio.
You have to kind of tweak it a little bit.
And that then becomes a little bit of a challenge, but it's a challenge I'm up for.
And it just makes it a little more difficult in its own way or a little more precise.
But then at that point, at a certain point, you have to just go, here's what I think's funny.
If you don't think it's funny, then I got to go back to being a carpenter because I can't do the other part where I try to survey you and try to figure out what you think is funny.
Have you had any experiences where you have caught yourself cursing or saying something you shouldn't?
I know we recently at the Daily Wire in one of our Babylon B, in one of the articles, it used the word vagina and a subscriber accused us of that it was pornography that we used the word vagina in that article.
Well, they have a very sensitive audience.
It is interesting when you see the audience shift a little bit.
Like I wrote some books and they just pretty much let it fly, scatological, whatever, F-bombs, everything.
I just, boom, I'm just writing everything.
And, you know, you'd read some critical reviews and it'd be sort of typical crap from the left.
But by the time I got to my sixth book about a year ago, the reviews were he swore too much.
You know, I didn't want to read this to my child.
You know, we're Christians.
You know, and it's like, oh, that's a different critique than I'd heard in my first go-round.
So it's kind of interesting how it shifted.
And that was just the audience shifting.
But that wasn't me doing anything differently.
That was just the ears that heard it had a different sensibility than the ears that heard the first book 11 years ago.
Yeah, we were on our way here in the car and I decided to look at your one-star reviews on your last book.
And it was like, oh, we saw him on Fox News and he seemed like such a nice young man.
Right.
Yeah, this is garbage.
Blue streak.
I also like that somebody got your book and tried to read it to their child as a bedtime story.
I made that for the first time.
Now, I know you toured with, you've toured with Dennis Prager a lot, and then you made the No Safe Spaces movie with him involved.
Then how did this partnership with Daily Wire and the show kind of come about?
Well, I was doing some shows in Nashville, I think.
I mean, the best of my recollection, because there's a lot of sleep deprivation deprival.
I went to Nashville.
I was doing Candace Owens' show.
Then I was having her on my podcast, I think.
And I was traveling with a guy who, for lack of a better title, will just say he's my manager.
And he was just kind of wandering around because he has nothing to do.
I got to do all the work.
And then he takes whatever percent.
But he walked into, I guess it was Jeremy Boring's office and this big glass office sort of in the corners and with the guitars on display.
That's where you that's the office you want to go to.
Find the one for the guitars.
That means that's that head.
That guy cuts checks, right?
So I think Mike like walked in and went like, you know, Adam could do this or Adam could do that.
And his ears perked up and he was a fan.
And I guess they've probably been thinking about taking a turn for the comedic over there.
And, you know, practically, there's just no play for Netflix.
There's no play for HBO.
You know, they're snobs and they're super partisan and they're very, I guess they're political, but whatever it is, there's no fit for Adam Caroll over at Netflix.
And so back to the analogy, which is, oh, I'm a painter.
I want to paint.
You know, I don't want to just pack it in.
So if you can find me another gallery that'll take my paintings, then we'll go there.
And that's essentially what happened with Daily Wire or the Daily Wire.
They have a branding thing you have to say.
They tell you you have to see the Daily Wire.
I literally can't.
Sometimes it just says Daily Wire.
Thought it says the Daily Wire, but Google it.
Something will show up.
Everywhere I've worked, they're always very particular about you have to say the title.
I don't think they are because I didn't get the memo.
You get accused of changing by people?
I used to.
They don't really do it anymore.
But once I sort of scoffed at it for a number of years, my answer, like changing is, you know, thank you, like good.
You know, you, you know, when I started talking into the microphone, I was single and had no kids and, you know, was young and was just kind of fresh off a construction site.
And at some point, I got married and I had kids and mortgages and, you know, responsibilities.
And so I spoke differently than I spoke, you know, 20 years before.
But the basic core stuff never, never changed.
I found when people find out that I make conservative humor, I work for the Babylon B, their immediate thought is like, oh, he's changed so much.
That's not the Ethan that I knew.
This is always what I was.
I was not making those jokes there.
But it kind of makes me sympathetic too, even when people say that the late night hosts have changed.
Makes me wonder, I mean, have the industries change or just life is just the way where people are going and where they're getting jobs or how it works is changing.
So, you know, maybe they haven't changed.
Well, the other side of the coin with I haven't changed is then, well, why not haven't you changed?
Why not quote you of all times?
The way they say I've changed.
Yeah.
Right.
They turned into this seething right-winger.
Yeah, that stuff's sort of comical to me.
I really just laugh most of it off.
I've not changed any of my opinions on any sort of core subjects since I started speaking into a microphone, you know, 27 years ago.
And I think it's great that you've always been like honest about your opinions and just said what's on your mind.
Cause I think that's what kind of led in a way, at least to some degree, to where we're at now.
Because I've always been honest about my beliefs, even though it's unpopular in Hollywood.
But I know a lot of people in Hollywood who have these kinds of beliefs or question some of the more extreme movements in the woke left, but they're so far down that path of kind of keeping their opinions to themselves that now they're afraid to mention it or talk about it at all.
Well, I mean, rightfully so, if you have done the math on people getting fired or canceled or removed from their livelihood for having opinions, and most people are, you know, they're not noble.
They're kind of into self-preservation.
And if you have a job and you're counting on a paycheck and you know what the politics are of the person that's signing the checks, then you'd be smart to kind of zip it.
You know, I think we're always asking people to do these kind of noble things.
But the reality is, is you're at the, you know, you're at the Walmart and someone comes running in there and they're shoplifting and they're filling up a satchel.
Most of us just stand there and look down until the person goes away.
Let someone else be the hero.
Or nobody.
I'll be over here.
I'll be in the lunch meet section over here.
Or in San Francisco, they join in and start robbing things to that's right.
But now with all the like cancel culture and the firings and stuff that happened, now like at a, at an outlet like The Daily Wire, where they have your show.
And they're having this deal with Gina Carano, who had been fired from the Mandalorian, and there's rumors that she might get rehired.
And now you have like Chappelle recently kind of taking a stand when people tried to tear him down and Netflix kind of siding with him.
Since you made no safe spaces a couple of years ago and all this talk about cancel culture, it still seems like it's a big threat to the industry.
But would you say there are sort of these small victories and some things to be optimistic about that there's kind of a pushback now?
Well, you're going to, if you try to sort of squeeze a water balloon, it's going to, it's not going to evaporate.
It's going to bulge out, you know, somewhere else, you know?
And so it's a stupid analogy, but it's still what.
Keep going with it.
I wouldn't see you finish it.
Try to take a balloon and turn it into a poodle at a kid's party.
That tale's going to have.
So you're going to create like a Greg Gutfeld.
You know what I mean?
Like you go, okay.
So Guttfeldt, good.
He's not a great stand-up.
He's not a great orator.
He's not a great anything.
He's just good.
He's very pure.
It's amusing.
It's in essence and whatever.
It's not hilarious.
But it's not like you go, oh, that guy's much more talented than Stephen Colbert.
No, it's just there's a whole bunch that's catering to this audience.
And so you've given birth.
You've opened too many Italian restaurants.
You're going to give birth to a Mexican food joint.
That's how it works.
And does the Mexican food have to be the best?
No, it just has to be not Italian food.
And so they have created this alternative.
I mean, they who said everyone needs to think like us, meaning everyone needs to eat Italian food like all the time and say they love it.
Well, at some point, someone's going to get smart and go, I'm just going to open another restaurant.
I'm not going to get pizza here.
Serve my own thing here.
And the first blush is like, you can't do that.
That'll never work.
And it's like, why wouldn't it work?
People want to eat.
Half the country likes this kind of food.
You're not serving it up.
So, you know, that's the analogy and that's what you're seeing.
So in a way, the people that probably hate Ben Shapiro or Greg Gutfeld or Tucker Carlson, they're just playing right into their hand by trying to cancel them and creating more business for them.
Right.
Yeah, that's one of the weird things about the relationship that almost that you could have.
We've never done it, but the Babylon Bee, I mean, our largest shoot-ups in subscribers have been when people have tried to cancel us.
It's almost to the point we could make a background deal, like a shady backroom deal and be like, could you guys just try to cancel us every three months?
You'll get a bunch of, you have a story to tell.
We'll have, you know, our subscribers will go up.
It's like a weird thing where the people that are taking a stance and getting mad about something, that's where you get that.
There is a thing when you want to put yourself out there in that way where some people do their, it's like a badge of honor.
It's weird how it's becoming an industry.
There's an industry side to cancel.
There are people now that will rally behind you specifically because you were canceled or the canceler has been making money from all the traffic it generates.
And then the people that are getting canceled kind of sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.
It happens to like Chick-fil-A every 14 months.
And there's a line going around the block because they've given Chick-fil-A.
You know, Chick-fil-A would have to buy a spot on cable news or network news or network whatever, cable, whatever, but they don't need to buy a spot if everyone's just talking about them.
And that's kind of, that's the new world order.
Yeah.
So you hung out with Dennis Prager a lot and you got any funny Dennis Prager stories behind the scenes?
Prager?
Prager Gambit?
We were in this gay bar once when we were outside of Orlando.
And actually, it was called in Orlando, but it was outside Orlando.
Did you go to Chick-fil-A before or after?
We always carved load before we go in.
So we got the crinkle fries.
Oh, no, we got the pigstail.
What's the circular one called?
Curly.
Oh, the curly.
Yeah.
Was this the same gay bar that that teacher took those kids to in Florida a few weeks ago?
I did see School Bus out front, but I didn't know.
That was a Babylon D prediction.
Yeah, Dennis and I have done a bunch of shows around the country and definitely spent some time together, spent some, you know, gone to dinner, hung out at his house.
You know, his son, stepson would have movie night over there in the backyard and bring my son over and watch a movie up on the big inflatable screen and stuff.
Like, Prager is exactly who he seems to be.
Yeah.
Real personable, real jovial guy, a real loving guy, fun guy, like likes to laugh.
He's wise and very bright, but a very interesting guy and a very intelligent guy, but also real.
He's not a knockaround guy at all.
Like he's not heard of any pop culture reference points.
Yeah, like Fleetwood Mac's not a sporting goods store, Dennis.
Fleetwood Mac is a fan.
That's not even like a very recent reference for him to note.
He doesn't know.
He literally doesn't know any.
He knows the Torah and that stuff.
Yeah, it's all biblical, but like fun and has a good sense of humor about himself and just a lot of guys, a lot of wisdom.
And, you know, like good to talk to.
But, you know, you are acutely aware of like how much wisdom he has.
And it's kind of like sometimes you do a thing where it's like me and him did a show.
I think we did Jordan Peterson's podcast.
I did a thing with him and with Dennis and Ben Shapiro and Dave Rubin's like moderating or whatever, but you're sitting there and you're like, I better be on my game.
You cannot just, you know, normally just pull stats out of your donkey.
Explain, you know, you just talk like Joe Biden, you know, like I was at the Freedom March in 1961.
Me and Harriet Tubman.
They're like, they've been there.
They know it.
You're not going to be able to just BS those guys.
And your thoughts better be kind of cogent and clear and interesting because you just kind of do an sort of stupid-ism or like my daddy used to tell me.
And it's something you heard a thousand times.
That's not going to work with those guys.
So you do like, you do, you do kind of feel this acute awareness of like, I can't just talk out of dogies.
And it's not like one of my buddies from high school where we can just shoot the crap over here.
Like, I better bring my A game.
Yeah.
But it kind of brings it.
They kind of bring it out of you.
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Yeah.
What do you make of the rise of Jordan Peterson?
I find it very fascinating because I don't think anybody would have predicted that a guy like him would be packing out auditoriums, doing four-hour talks on the Bible.
Yeah, I mean, I think it's what we discussed before.
It's like you tried to silence somebody and it's going to work for part of the nation and then the other part's going to go, well, what's this?
What's so interesting about this guy that you needed to silence him?
Like, what is it you don't want me to hear?
I want to hear it.
I'm buying a ticket.
I mean, he's good and he knows of what he speaks.
And he definitely is a real clear thinker.
But, you know, he's not the most charismatic guy on the planet.
He's not the funniest guy on the planet.
I mean, it kind of gives you hope that people want to hear what guys like that have to say because he's not, you know, oh, he dresses so sharp and wears cowboy boots.
This is going to be good.
You know, like, it's none of that.
It's all content.
Yeah, you clearly only like him for the stuff he's saying.
There's no other hook, right?
Right, right.
It's fascinating to me.
There's that big of a hunger for wisdom to go deep into mythology and self-improvement and kind of in thinking on deeper levels the way that he's doing where I think I before him.
I would have thought, I think about this stuff a lot, but I think most people don't really.
But then to see the response to him makes me go, well, I think a lot more guys think like this than I do.
And it's actually the way the media presents people to me.
I think everybody's way dumber than they actually are.
Yeah, I think it would be there is a, you know, you know, they want us to think everybody thinks like them and everyone is racist and everyone, you know, thinks that Samantha B is super funny or, you know, the view is a great show or whatever.
Whatever they're pitching, Kyle Rittenhouse is a racist.
You know, like they just kind of go, here's our theme.
Let's just pitch it, see how many people, you know, we can force feed this to our audience.
And then you're always kind of surprised when you meet some independent thinkers and some clear thinkers, but there's a lot of them.
Otherwise, we wouldn't be here talking.
I mean, it wouldn't be the Jordan Petersons or the Daily Wires or just Ben Shapiro's Dennis Prayers or you guys are that just wouldn't exist.
You know, it's like you live in Hollywood.
You think everyone drives a Prius or Tesla.
And then you go outside and you're like, I haven't seen a Tesla.
All I see is Dodge trucks with weird hanging on the bumper.
Well, there's a lot of them.
Yeah.
You don't see it when you're in that kind of fishbowl.
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I like Puddle of Mud as well.
Wait, do you think Puddle of Mud's a Christian man?
Jars of Clay.
There you go.
Jars of fake ass jars.
Well, you got to make the jar out of something.
What's your party?
What's one of your party stories?
I walked into the bedroom and on the white carpet was a stripe of red wine that was like 12, 14 feet long.
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