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TUESDAY BOMBSHELL BROADCAST: 11 Members Of An Antifa Terrorist Cell Apprehended After Attacking ICE Agents In Ambush! Meanwhile, Democrats Are Officially Going Into ‘Civil War Mode,’ Escalating Attacks Against Federal Agents Nationwide! PLUS, President Trump Praises FBI Director Kash Patel & Deputy Director Dan Bongino As Outrage Grows Over Epstein “Whitewash Operation” — MUST-WATCH/SHARE FULL SHOW 7/8/25
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alex jones
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kristi noem
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nick fuentes
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anabel munoz
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benny johnson
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brooke rollins
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joe rogan
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john roberts
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karen bass
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karoline leavitt
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alex jones
All right, I am extremely torn today on what is the most important story because it's all interconnected.
We have Israel gearing up to launch new attacks on Iran and try to keep that war going and all the dangers that come out of that.
We have the continued fallout of the Justice Department and the Trump administration doing a 180 on Epstein and that giant fiasco that has just made the Epstein case, if it was possible, 10 times bigger than it was.
And it was already the big enchilada.
That really woke a lot of people up when they killed him.
It was already a huge story, but when they broke his neck in three spots and said he killed himself, it just became gigantor and it's not going away.
Now, this is at least 10 times bigger.
I mean, absolute PR disaster fiasco.
I mean, I want the Trump administration to succeed.
But this is at the heart of the Mossad CIA MI6 control system in the deep state.
And there's all the angles to that.
And I was the first to say yesterday, looks to me like Trump's taking control of the blackmail file that the FBI and CIA had, and that he would then use that against the deep state as they've been using it against their own system.
That's what it is.
And some people don't understand how that works because some folks aren't very smart.
Scary how dumb some people are, but it's scary.
But I'm not defending that.
I think that's extremely dangerous and immoral, but I did wargame out why Trump had made that decision.
Well, if, and I said that was my speculation, but I think that was the case.
Well, now today and yesterday, Trump put out a statement praising Cash Patel and Bongino, saying now they can move on and do their important work of fighting crime.
So that's Trump saying, no, this is me.
Of course, it comes from Trump.
I love how people want to go, oh, it's Pam Bondi.
Throw her overboard or any of this.
And I'm not trying to attack Trump.
I'm just simply going to lay out the facts here.
Okay.
And because no women, no kids.
I'm like Tony Montana.
I ain't killing no women, no kids.
I'm not hurting women and kids.
And I'm not getting anywhere near defending any of this stuff.
Okay.
I have wargamed why this unfolded.
And now it's coming out that, of course, I was right.
I know every angle of this thing.
And you can say, hey, Trump could not release this with all these corporate leaders and heads of big banks and Bill Gates and all the rest of them.
It would bring down the stock market.
It would crash the country.
It would turn the whole world against us.
Well, the whole world already knows that Europe and Canada and the UK and the U.S. are run by pedophiles.
So I say justice will be done by the heavens fall.
And they got plenty of evil, wicked stuff going on all around the world as well.
The West has had a monopoly on this sickness.
But and I see Trump doing so much other great stuff.
I just, I can't sit here and know what's going on and then play games and eat around the edges of this.
And I do not take pleasure with CNN and the Wall Street Journal and ABC News and every other channel, you know, having clips of me, little short ones out of context, as if I've turned on Trump.
But that's what the deceptive corporate media does.
And the independent media does it too.
They take clips out of context where I'm wargaming something and say, Jones is endorsing Trump using the blackmail information.
No, that's what I think everything points towards.
And now he's come out and said, you know, basically thinks the FBI has done a great job, meaning he ordered this.
But let's move on.
They've started.
Let's move on to the other big topics we're going to cover, and we'll get back into that.
And Trump's got a big cabinet meeting going right now.
We'll join it live.
We come back in 60 seconds.
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So we've got big Ukraine developments, big Iran-Israel developments, big economy developments, big tariff developments.
We've got the giant Epstein whitewash cover-up firestorm whitewash outrage and just all that goes into that and how you couldn't come out with a worse way, even if you were going to cover it up.
This is the worst way to do it.
So, you got to sit back and ask, what is going on here?
And what I said yesterday, by yesterday evening and this morning, more and more of it is now coming out that I was right.
And I'll tell you my take on that and then go over all of this because now people have taken the compilations of Bondi and Patel and Mongino and all of them and U.S. attorneys and all of it and just the total 180s.
And to watch the press secretary, who's really done a great job because she's been telling the truth about everything and just the facts, and it's so refreshing, suddenly you don't see her so happy looking and you don't see her, you know, with that sparkle in her eye because Trump's got a lot of good people around him.
These are ideologues for freedom.
I mean, these are people that actually care.
And that's why Bongino and Patel and others, when they're putting this crap out, look like they're being tortured.
Whereas you look at Gavin Newsom telling outrageous lies, he's dancing and wiggling around like a little snake, like the snake of the jungle book trying to hypnotize you.
I mean, they love it.
Bill Clinton loves lying.
Obama loves lying.
AOC loves lying.
But, I mean, because I know the facts.
I study all this stuff constantly.
I watch these press conferences.
It's like, true, true, true, true, true, true.
Day after day, week after week.
True, true, true.
Trump, true, true, true.
Everything's just true, true, true.
And I'm just here defending this, defending that, and watching the corporate press try to lie about Trump and set Trump up.
And just take every issue and twist it.
Oh, there was no National Weather Service alerts.
Yeah, there were.
You know, Trump got everybody killed in Texas.
Meanwhile, we now know the Democrat mayor and fire chief ordered no support vehicles to go out there.
Unprecedented.
That's a big scandal.
Just like the Palisades to send the fire trucks to the fires the first evening.
Oh, yeah.
Got to burn Rome if Nero wants to expand his palace.
The new Nero is Gavin Newsom, the heir apparent to the Democrat crime syndicate of Nancy Pelosi.
After all, she is his nephew.
So there's all of that.
And as I said on Friday, Saturday, rapture it happened.
I said, you'll have over 100 dead.
People are like, that's exaggerating.
Well, over 100 dead and still masses of people missing.
Just very serious.
We've got a lot of different reports on that.
And all these Democrats, white psychiatrists and pediatricians and black food bank directors are getting fired because they're like, we're not sending food and helping them white kids.
I mean, just the level of leftist hate.
But, and I'm going to go over all of this today.
In fact, I want to drill into Epstein first.
But I want everybody to listen because at the start of the second hour, I'm going to get into the Alvarez ICE facility attack.
11 charged in ambush on ICE officers.
They shot at them, tried to kill them.
But thank God, commies don't know how to use guns too well.
They killed one of them.
And I looked at the dead body on the ground.
I said, that's Antifa.
And of course it is.
Look at those people.
You don't need to have an FBI team go in and wind them up to go carry out terror.
They're real.
What did I say the minute this broke yesterday live on air?
I said, Antifa, just looking at the dead body.
You know, he had his head blurred out.
I could look at the little skinny, spindly arms and legs and the black he was wearing.
And I went, that's it, Antifa.
Because you know the look of a Surah Rat.
So here's the deal.
You've got Mayor Bash charging in and confronting ICE in L.A. You've got mobs of people attacking him again on a daily basis in L.A., in Denver, all over the country.
You have Soros radio stations and Spanish directing people there.
This is insurrection.
You got Hakeem Jeffries saying we're going to dox all the ICE agents.
And so they are 100% ratcheting up and trying to get their summer of love that will make 2020 look like a walk in the park.
And all they're looking for is their false flags.
So again, didn't happen a month ago with the no kings thing other than a leptist going crazy that worked for the governor going out and killing lawmakers.
And then he said, no, I'm working for Tim Walls.
That's what we're doing.
He sent me to kill him.
He sent me to kill him.
And I said days before, I said one of the things they could do is shoot up a bunch of Democrat lawmakers and then blame a MAGA person.
And they immediately tried to blame him and blame me.
Day one, the witness, the buddy.
Yeah, InfoWars.
Alex Jones is what he liked.
And yeah, he loved Trump.
Oh, I love Trump too.
And they had behavioral experts from the FBI and other places look at it and say, we've never seen red flags of deception this high.
I mean, just pegging the meter of just obvious BS.
And oh, none of us were involved with him.
None of us were involved.
I'm like 18 times.
I'm innocent.
I'm not involved.
Look, I got a text message.
I don't excel.
So the point is, let me just boil it down.
I'm going to get to it next time to all the videos and reports and press conferences.
I've been saying, and archivists can find it, that I expect Antifa right about now to start attacking federal buildings, federal courthouses, and federal detention facilities that have illegal aliens in them.
There needs to be blood.
Democrat lawmakers say their base is preparing for violence.
Oh, I, you know, I had that in my stack.
Print it for me again.
I can't find it.
Hold on.
I got so many articles here.
Yeah, that's today.
I mean, it's just like, we're coming and we're going to attack.
And then they got people on the news saying we're not sending aid to that area of Texas because they're white people.
White and these people.
The average anti-file is obviously a communist, a Satan worshiper, and a pedophile.
I'd say about I mean, I mean, 100% of them are one or more of those things, but most of them are all three.
Devil-worshipping communist pedophiles.
They'll tell you.
You go protest an abortion clinic, they show up, attack you.
Done it many times.
You've seen the videos.
And they show up and get out of cars like, Satan, I want to kill kids, rape kids, rape.
I mean, literally, you're like, got video like, gas, Satan, blah, blah, blah, Satan, gas, Satan.
Go protest to an abortion clinic in a big city, and they'll show up.
And like, half of them like, big black circles around their eyes.
I mean, they're demon-possessed, folks.
And so they're cranking up.
They're getting ready.
And they are very low IQ.
Usually meth heads as well, but they have professors above them.
That's always their control officers who are the managers.
But you don't see them on the street.
They're back behind the scenes, pulling the strings with the NGOs.
Now, that said, though, they got smarter leftists that, again, are just going to go up in a parking garage or in a panel van, go out to one of these demonstrations where they're attacking police and all this, and they're just going to point at the crowd and spray them and then leave a MAGA manifesto there.
Just like when you got the guy going was going to kill with a group, now we don't hear who the group was.
70 lawmakers.
And it was going to be blamed on Trump and me, of course.
And magically, I mean, I said the week before that happened.
And then they go kill a bunch of lawmakers or illegal aliens or black college.
That's what they're pre-programming.
And then magically the laptop or the manifesto, it's because of me, of course.
I mean, it's just so predictable.
So I've kind of set the table there.
That's just some of what we've got here.
But I want to go now to the live roundtable cabinet meeting that Trump's just now kicking off.
We'll listen and watch some of this duck in and out of it.
And then I'm going to hit the ground running.
The main transmission is really going to start when we go to break here in about 10, 11 minutes.
When I come back, I'm loaded for bear.
I'm ready.
I'm going to tell you exactly what's going on with this Epstein thing, this firestorm, and why this fiasco has happened straight ahead.
But first, let's go to the event at the White House.
donald j trump
Thank you very much.
We've had a tremendous six months, and we've had a tremendous two weeks, which now is, I guess, three weeks.
And we have a tremendous group of people here that have done a great, unified, beautiful job.
I want in particular, because of what she's gone through this last few days, done an incredible job.
As you know, Christy, I'm going to ask you to say a few words about Texas.
The first person there was first person I saw on television was you, actually.
And you've worked great with the governor.
It's terrific.
And you might want to tell a little bit about the trials and tribulations, but we appreciate the job that you and everybody have done to get people there as fast as anybody's ever seen.
So we appreciate it.
We all do.
And maybe you can say a few words.
kristi noem
Thank you, Mr. President.
I want to thank you for your leadership.
Texas is strong, and the people of Texas are incredibly strong.
They've gone through something that is absolutely horrific.
And it is heartbreaking to watch these families suffer the way that they are.
As soon as this flash flooding event happened, you know, the governor has activated his emergency responders.
Neil Kidd is his emergency management director who is incredible and has immediately worked with the local first responders to get help to individuals and get them evacuated, put requests in to me.
We deployed, sir, right away, as you know, because you and I were talking a lot during this time, the Coast Guard.
We also had some assets out of customs and border protection.
Our board tech teams went in and helped with rescues and clearing debris so that we could get roads open and people get the help that they need.
I think when I got there the most, sir, that day, as soon as I arrived on site, was getting a briefing from all the emergency responders was just how unified they were in focusing on the fact that they were there to save lives.
They were there to rescue people, find people who were still alive, and to reunify them with their family members.
We as a federal government don't manage these disasters.
The state does.
We come in and support them.
And that's exactly what we did here in this situation.
FEMA went to an enhanced Level immediately, but as soon as you signed the major disaster declaration, we were able to get them resources and dollars right away, just like you envisioned through state block grants to help them with cleanup.
And we're still there in presence, and FEMA's been deployed and we're cutting through the paperwork of the old FEMA, streamlining it, much like your vision of how FEMA should operate.
And it's been a much better response to help these families get through this terrible situation.
We still are looking for people.
We're still looking for a lot of little girls and other family members that were camping along that river.
And they will continue until they find every single person, and we will continue to help them and assist in that.
I was surprised when I got there at the camp that day, right after this happened, the parents that were there, the parents that were looking for their children and picking up their daughter's stuffed animals out of the mud and finding their daughter's shoe that might be laying in the cabin and just hugging and comforting people matters a lot.
I'm extremely grateful for God's hand in that whole situation because hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people were saved.
And this is a time for all of us in this country to remember that we were created to serve each other.
God created us to take care of each other.
And that when we do that, we are happier, we are more fulfilled, and we can walk alongside people on their worst day and help them get through it and come out the other side knowing that we can continue to live a life that God has purposed for us.
So they're grateful for you.
Several times the day after the flooding, you and Melania were on the phone with me, and I want to thank you for that.
That meant the world.
I was able to tell many of those folks that I had been visiting with you and that you had said, whatever they need, Christy, let's deploy it and get it down there and be helpful.
And on Sunday, when the families were waiting at a church to identify their children's bodies, Franklin Graham and I called in and prayed with the families and read some scripture with them.
And he was incredible in making himself available to that as well.
We'll be back down there in a couple of days and continue to do all we can.
But this is an unprecedented event.
It really is.
There's been tragedies like this around the country, but everyone is unique in different situations.
And the response the federal government had supporting the state through this, I'm proud of the people that stepped up and immediately came.
The Coast Guard, when they came in, they had a difficult time even getting the aircraft in and landed.
They had to try several times in the weather to get it in and deploy.
And I think we've heard about our one Coast Guard member that was responsible for saving over 165 people.
But that entire crew did incredible work.
And all the first responders there did incredible work.
And I know people are getting tired now, but they're getting reinforcements and volunteers are showing up.
And I just want to commend the governor and his team for being the leaders.
And they're so thankful that you're letting them make the decisions and manage the response like it should be.
And then us supporting them with the resources of the federal government.
We've already deployed dollars to the state, much like the block grants that you've talked about.
So very grateful for that, sir.
donald j trump
There's never been a wave like this outside of the breaking of a dam.
This was almost a wave that ended up being 30 feet high more, actually.
Now, with a dam, you can understand it, but this approached almost with that speed.
When you see a dam break, it's not a pretty sight.
It wipes out everything.
And this is the kind of thing that built up so fast.
And it's happened two or three times before over the years, but not to this extent.
But tell them when you met the father who was picking up the daughter's clothing.
kristi noem
I had walked through the cabin where all the little girls died.
And I had kind of fallen apart in there, but I walked out of the cabin and a gentleman was standing there and he said, that man over there needs a hug.
And so I walked over to him and I hugged him and I said, do you work here?
And he said, no, my little girl was in that cabin.
And he said, and I just found her best friend about an hour and a half ago.
She had passed away.
And he just fell apart.
And so then we just hugged and talked for probably an hour about that.
But then there was another, the grandpa was there looking for his granddaughter as well.
There was a dad there of one of the counselors.
The counselor was alive, but she was dealing with the fact that she had hung on to some of these girls and was trying to keep them out of the floodwaters and had gotten hit by something and had lost two of the girls and wasn't able to hang on to them and was going to live the rest of her life thinking about that moment when she wasn't able to hang on to these girls.
But these parents were picking up their kids' belongings out of the mud and throughout the camp and putting them in bags.
And then one of the dads said, I knew 50 of these girls.
50 of these girls here.
So I knew that was her dress and my daughter's friend's dress.
So he was picking it up and putting it in a bag to return to her parents.
And then the director was there comforting everybody who had lost his father the night before too.
And he was still there trying to facilitate all of these parents grieving their children and find them.
So the strength of people is incredible.
One of the things that I asked there that day was that they all have escorts or counselors when parents come in.
So from that point, that when they came into the camp, that they have somebody with them when they're going and looking for their children.
alex jones
We're going to continue to monitor this and go through the different cabinet members and the important issues they're talking about.
The corporate media, again, attempted within a few hours of the floods over the weekend to say that Trump had cut money in the National Weather Service and that there was no weather alerts.
Total giant lie.
Absolutely proven.
We showed the time stamps.
Days later, Fox News got around to it.
We were getting alerts on our phones, T Vs, billboards, everywhere.
Now they're blaming one of the little towns for not putting a million dollars worth of alarm systems in.
I mean, most of these towns, there's like one gas station.
Okay?
So there's rivers and mountains and when you go out in these areas, people need to understand that they need to be aware of the weather.
I'm not blaming anybody.
I'm just saying, being brought up around here, and flash floods are about everywhere, particularly in hill country west of Austin, because it's mountains and hills and scrub brush.
When a ton of water comes down, it gets concentrated and it rises.
And it's a tragedy.
And it's the nanny state, though, that wants to creep in and take control of everything.
They have their way.
You'll be able to leave out your front door.
We can make it really safe when you just lock you in the cage to do it.
Now, people have gotten away from the land, people have gotten away from common sense, people have gotten domesticated.
And, you know, you got big storms coming in.
Everybody I've always known knows you get to high ground.
So what happened is, is people have just gotten too soft, and it's sad.
And when you get soft, you get hurt.
We'll be right back.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, Trump's live televised cabinet meeting is just now taking questions from the press, and Trump just went off, basically blew up at a reporter for bringing up the Epstein whitewash project we're witnessing.
And that's what it is.
And I told everybody this is going to be huge yesterday.
And the Democrats are seizing it now because you've got Cash Patel and Mondi and all of them saying, yeah, we raided the other Offices of the FBI with where Comey was hiding stuff.
Remember back in March?
It's 14 terabytes and videos and hundreds of new child victims, and it's terrible stuff.
And then now there is no list, there is no blackmail, there is no human trafficking.
Well, then how is Ghislaine Maxwell in prison for human trafficking?
And a small minority of Trump supporters tried to spin this like it's something that Elon Musk is creating.
No.
Cash Patel and Dan Bongino, even before the Elon split happened, went on TV like deer in the headlights and said, well, you're not going to like this, but there's nothing.
And Epstein killed himself.
And by the way, Crooks acted alone in Pennsylvania.
We all saw what happened.
We all know it's not true.
And we have Patel and Bongino and all of them saying the same things we know about the cover-up in Butler and the rest of it.
And the independent coroner, the top one in the U.S., examining Epstein's body, saying his neck's broken in three spots.
I mean, and then they release a video of black around the corner is the entrance to the area where his cell is.
And look, you don't see anything there.
And then there's missing time out of it.
Confirmed.
So you couldn't come up with a plan to cover this up and have it blow up bigger.
If you're going to cover it up, you just shut up about it and say, oh, we're investigating.
But no.
No.
So I want Trump to succeed.
I've investigated this and the victims, over a dozen of them that are confirmed victims of Epstein, who fingered Bill Clinton and all of them, said, no, we never saw Trump at the island.
We never saw him at Zorro Ranch.
We never saw him in New York at the place.
And we've always known that.
And you got the fake Jane Does over and over again that would come out that were fake and Eugene Carroll and all of it.
So I did my investigation into Trump over this back at the time I endorsed him nine years ago plus.
So why then would Trump do this?
And I'll get into that in a moment.
But Trump's really gotten where he doesn't get testy with reporters.
He just makes jokes at once he doesn't like.
But the fact that he got upset here is chumming the water.
So you've already got Republicans and Democrats calling for a congressional investigation.
You're going to see Pam Bondi hauled in there.
And they're going to ask her, okay, so you raided the offices of the FBI and they had to go there themselves.
They wouldn't turn it over.
Did the Democrats?
The head of the FBI in New York said, we're not working with them.
Dig in.
This is a war in his email.
He had to resign.
You got Comey, his daughter, running the whitewash.
It's all on record.
And you've got back at the time his conviction that was just a whitewash 15 years ago.
You have the U.S. attorney saying, no, I was told he's U.S. intelligence.
We got ABC News saying, oh, we've seen the Epstein file.
We know everybody who's involved, but boy, we were told to cover it up.
And you got John McCain's wife saying, oh, everybody knew he was running the sex rings with kids.
And you got Prince Andrew's handler getting caught saying, oh, yeah, he was, you know, with underage girls.
So the story's out there.
And when they killed Epstein and tried to cover it up, it made it the biggest story ever and really woke record numbers up.
Three things don't hang themselves, drywall, Christmas tree lights, and Jeffrey Epstein.
And now, when I saw this 180 starting a few months ago with Patel and Mongino and this tour, I said, they're getting ready to completely say nothing exists.
No black book, no nothing.
When they testified in the Ghislaine Maxwell case that they did have a black book of specific clients and that that was suppressed by the court.
I'll show you the news articles.
Again, with Comey's daughter in there, making sure it was limited only to her.
But she was convicted of sex trafficking.
Now we're told he killed himself.
There was no blackmail.
There is no other accomplices.
There is no client list.
Even though we're told, yes, we've got all these giant files and videos and truckloads of hard drives.
We have photos of and FBI reports.
And now we're told, we're not told, oh, the Democrats destroyed all that.
We're told, oh, we've got it now and there's hundreds of new victims.
And then we hear the sound of a record scratch or a car wreck.
Oh, no, there's nothing.
Now, obviously, it's on record that you've got the Israeli prime ministers and all the rest of it and Maxwell's dad, high-level Mossad and MI6 and Epstein CIA and Barr involved and all of it.
So yes, of course it's Western intelligence running these blackmail honeypot control systems.
That's been known to be a massive operation for 50, 60 years.
In the UK newspapers, they just admit the government's run by pedophile blackmail.
So why in the hell would they then do this 180?
Now, here is Trump going off, getting very upset With a reporter just minutes ago.
And now you are going to see everywhere he goes.
And again, I said yesterday: I said, look, this comes from Trump.
And I said, understanding how this works, they've now got the files that the deep state was using to blackmail and control everybody.
And then now Trump has control of those files.
And that can be used to get the deep state to roll over to what he's doing.
I didn't endorse that.
I said, that is what the evidence points toward.
And I said, we need a statement from Trump saying this needs to be released, or I want Pam Bonnie to clarify why she's saying this, or we know that this is orders from Trump.
And then hours later, by the time I got off air, it was about three, four o'clock, he puts on True Social, oh, the FBI is doing a great job, Cash Patel and Bongino.
And now they can focus on the important work of crime fighting.
And he's specifically saying, hey, they're doing a great job.
They're doing what I told them.
And this is a distraction.
We're going to move on.
And they have shut down 96% of human trafficking over the border.
And they are rounding up the people trafficking kids.
And that's in the indictments all over the news, but the specifics are sealed because it's minors.
So I'm seeing a lot of really good work here.
And I'm seeing the Democrats ratchet up the violence.
There needs to be blood.
Democrat lawmakers say their base is prepping for violence.
We're going to get to that coming up next hour.
So if Trump did make some deal with big elements of the deep state to stop the civil war they're trying to trigger and all the rest of it, well, it doesn't look like the Soros people and the NGOs got the message because they took their calls for violence from high to ultra high, and they are attacking and confronting and shooting at ICE people all over the country now.
They just arrested 11 anti-voterrorists in North Texas who had to kill ICE agents.
The ICE agents took them out quickly.
They shot a cop, but he didn't die.
Can you imagine if Trump supporters went and did that?
It'd be the end of the world.
Of course, we wouldn't.
So we got big issues, folks.
And Trump's trying to stop all these wars.
And that's great.
But when I see an unmitigated fiasco, I said to myself, you heard me on air, well, I just wargamed it.
And I said, I hope I'm wrong.
But I said, if we get a statement from him supporting this, that means that this is his orders and that they have taken control of the deep state blackmail file so that instead of Obama and the Globalists and the Rothschilds and MI6 and Mossad being in control of it, Trump's people are.
But then you look at that and there's Israelis swarming all around.
So and then you'll say, well, maybe Israel's blackmailing Trump with information.
You know, that's what Elon is saying is that, no, Trump is in the files.
That would have come out before when they were trying to stop him before.
They're clearly coming after him.
And I've never seen one piece of evidence to that.
No, this all points towards bare minimum.
Trump believes, and it's probably true, that if it comes out, a bunch of head bankers and politicians and leaders and business leaders are in this, which we know they were, that will crash the stock market.
That will just destroy America's image in the world.
And so it's so horrible that they made the decision not to bring it out.
I'm not endorsing that.
That's the thinking here.
And now would Trump endorsing what the FBI just did with this ridiculous memo?
That's what it is.
And you heard Judge Joe Brown's very smart.
He agreed with me yesterday and said he thinks that's what's going on, but he thinks Trump later is going to bring it out.
I don't know.
But I'm not an apologist for any of this.
I'm simply wargaming the different angles.
And so the corporate media and others take clips out of context just because I'm saying what I believe is going on and I'm a Trump supporter overall.
People then think, oh, well, that's an endorsement.
No, that's called critical thinking and wargaming.
That's what we do.
It's how I said in the last few months, you're going to start seeing Antifa shoot up ICE facilities in federal buildings.
And it's happening.
It's not even hard.
And at the level they're escalating in their rhetoric, Democrat lawmakers are calling for outright violence and blood now.
And the Democrats are foaming at the mouth.
Don't help any of the kids in Texas.
They're white Trump supporters.
I mean, the Democrats are on TV on broadcasts saying don't send money to white people.
I mean, that's the most crazy, hateful pitting themselves against dead little girls.
But they're deranged, folks.
So here's Trump.
And you're going to see a lot more of this now because when I got up here yesterday and predicted all this, it wasn't hard to predict it.
It's like saying if I took a hatchet and slammed it down on my four fingers, then I'm going to have fingers cut off and blood spraying everywhere.
That's not a prediction.
That's cause and effect.
And so if they were going to use the blackmail file, they would just shut up about it and then say they were investigating and slow roll it.
Instead, oh, we've got it.
Oh, it's going to come out.
Not just Bondi, all of them.
That's loading the gun, putting the deep state's head, saying, we'll do it.
We'll do it.
We've sent it to the FBI offices around the country.
We'll do it.
And then they come back and say, fine, we'll stop our attacks on you.
We'll roll over.
We'll get out of the way of your project to Relaunch America and all the great things you're doing.
But you got to come out and say it's closed and it's over so that you're tied to it so that you can't ever stab us in the back.
And then this is what you get.
That's how this stuff works.
And that's what I believe is going on.
And I wasn't sure of it yesterday, though my gut was.
And now I know it.
And it makes me feel sick because we need Trump to succeed.
He's not a pedophile from everything I know and also my gut.
And I operate off the Holy Spirit as well.
And literally, I prayed about it nine plus years ago.
God said, no, support Trump.
And you've seen all the evil come against me and my operation because of that.
And now you see the good fruits of what Trump's doing on so many fronts.
And they're massively cutting off the human trafficking, the sex slavery.
So they've cut that spigot off that we know Majorca and the Democrats were running.
And we know they're Pedo's.
I mean, we know it's in the WikiLeaks.
And so I'm having to balance all of this in my mind, but I cannot sit here and watch Trump, when he's having so much success, metaphorically put a shotgun to his foot and blow it off.
This is equivalent to taking a 12-gauge shotgun and putting it up against your boot, right in the middle of your foot, and going, boom!
And I mean, when I woke up yesterday morning at 6 a.m. and my phone was low, I was just, I literally was staggering around.
Just like, actually, I sat on the couch, Hadley fell down on the couch.
I was just like, uh, uh, uh, uh, just processing this because I could just see everything that was going to come out of this.
unidentified
Oh, my goodness gracious.
alex jones
And I understand the hard choices in Trump's mind.
Hundreds and hundreds of corporate leaders and government leaders, most of them Democrats, some Republican, brutally raping little kids.
And folks, it's not just 16 and 15-year-old girls.
No, that's how they limited it in the court cases.
So you hear that?
No.
So that's where we are.
And Trump is very smart.
So what did he think was going to happen when people are so well educated about Epstein?
The general public's illiterate about most political intrigue and history and energy and science.
But no, people know about Epstein now.
I mean, almost everybody's read in on it.
It's been this big soap opera.
And so now you take the biggest thing that people question and don't trust the government over, because it's one of the few big things they're actually informed on, stuff even a lot worse.
And then you do a 180 and tell us Epstein killed himself and there was no black book and there was no human trafficking and there was no blackmail when it's a gigantic on-record blackmail operation.
I mean, Bill Gates said, oh, Epstein tried to blackmail him.
I mean, it's like it's known.
And that's him dissing himself.
He actually works for Bill Gates.
He has a bunch of bosses, but no, Gates is in there.
How do you think Gates can control all these top scientists?
We got more on that coming up.
Patrick McDavid had a very credible MK Ultra former sex slave on.
And I don't know who she is.
I know about some of the cases.
But you watch it knowing what I know about all this stuff.
It's 100% true.
That clip's coming up.
But I will do what I have to do.
And I will tell you what I believe is the most accurate thing.
And you notice most of the time I'm right.
And boy, I wish I wouldn't.
Man, when I saw that statement by Trump yesterday afternoon, I just, again, I'm not normally like this.
I had to go lay down in my office for about 20 minutes because I got a piercing headache because we need Trump to succeed and he's doing so much good, but you can't try to control evil.
You can't decide, well, you know, for the greater good, because this is what hurt America and the stock market too much.
This is just too horrible.
We can't bring this out.
And then the way it was done, which I guarantee you, making the deal with the globalists, you know, to supposedly roll over, they said, we'll just do this, which was the trap.
And of course, that's the last piece that hasn't been confirmed, but I guarantee you that's going on.
That's exactly how it went down.
And that's how evil gets you.
You think you're going to manipulate it and use it for good, and that it stabs you in the back every time.
That's why you can't put the one ring on.
Because you can always win a couple battles, but it's going to make you lose the war in the end.
Because it's going to take you over.
It's a metaphysical archetype that's so true.
Thank you.
And I've seen the cue people out defending it.
Oh, yeah.
They weren't smart enough to come up with what was going on.
But once I said it, they're like, yes, it's good.
He's using the blackmail material to control the deep state.
All right, go ahead and go to Trump.
This is Trump getting upset.
Just 20 minutes ago or so.
Here it is.
pam bondi
Yeah, sir.
donald j trump
Did I just interrupt a little second?
Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?
This guy's been talked about for years.
You're asking, we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things.
And are people still talking about this guy, this creep?
That is unbelievable.
Do you want to waste the time?
Do you feel like answering?
pam bondi
I don't mind answering.
donald j trump
I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on Epstein at a time like this where we're having some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what happened in Texas.
It just seems like a desecration, but you go ahead.
pam bondi
Sure.
First, to back up on that, in February, I did an interview on Fox, and it's been getting a lot of attention because I said, I was asked a question about the client list, and my response was, it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed, meaning the file, along with the JFK, MLK files as well.
That's what I meant by that.
Also, to the tens of thousands of video, they turned out to be child porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein.
Child porn is what they were.
Never going to be released, never going to see the light of day.
To him being an agent, I have no knowledge about that.
We can get back to you on that.
And the minute missing from the video, we released the video showing definitively, the video was not conclusive, but the evidence prior to it was showing he committed suicide.
And what was on that, there was a minute that was off the counter.
And what we learned from Bureau of Prisons was every year, every night, they redo that video.
It's old from like 1999.
So every night the video is reset, and every night should have the same minute missing.
So we're looking for that video to release that as well, showing that a minute is missing every night.
unidentified
And that's it on Epstein.
alex jones
She said we've discovered hundreds of victims of Epstein and others.
But now, oh no, it was childborn.
Okay, so you saw Trump got a lot of energy there, very pissed off.
And I understand that he wants to move on with the peace initiatives, the economy, and all the rest of it.
But that response right there is going to elicit even more questions and more furor.
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We have the Democrats going into civil war mode, just escalating violence everywhere.
Their leaders escalating calls for violence.
Really serious situation that we've been predicting because John Podesta said, if Trump ever wins again, we're going to have giant illegal alien demonstrations and other things around the country.
And right-wingers are going to kill them.
Tom Homan's going to kill them.
Trump's going to kill them.
And then we're going to have a civil war and have the blue state secede in cities and force Trump out.
They made a movie about it called Civil War that came out last year.
I know I've harped on this.
Well, now we're here.
And when they didn't get a big explosion a month ago with no kings, funded by the Democrats and the deep state, USAID money, all of it preloaded, they've now, rhetoric-wise, in their media and Democrat leaders, it's all coming up, just tripled down.
I mean, it is just wall-to-wall garbage.
And so I understand Trump's frustration overall that he's got a big fish to fry, but he wants the FBI to say don't look into Butler anymore.
He wants the FBI to not look into Epstein anymore.
He wants them to, you know, again, this is a big deal, and America wants to know about it.
And we want to get reports on the kids that have been human trafficked by Majorkis and all the rest of them disappeared.
We know they are finding a lot of them.
Well, we want to know about that.
And I would tell the Trump administration, you need to get on that right now because we're talking about hundreds of thousands of children.
Here's a little compilation of CNN having a heyday with this with those of us that have a conscience that have to tell the truth.
And then we're going to come back and get into the news I just mentioned with the Civil War.
Here it is.
unidentified
This is supposed to be about the most transparent administration ever.
liz wheeler
What on earth is going on?
Was Pam Bondi set up by deep state FBI career officials?
Is she stupid?
Is she so clickthirsty that she got out over her skis trying to make news, being a Fox News star?
alex jones
Pam Bondi, all of it.
All those videos are saying, yeah, she's seen the videos.
It's all coming out.
And then now it doesn't exist.
I mean, what?
What?
dan bongino
The Jeffrey Epstein case, you do not know all the details of this thing, I promise.
There are a lot of really obviously powerful people.
This part, you know, but the specific names we may not.
aliba habba
There were so many individuals that were hidden and kept secret and not been held accountable.
pam bondi
What you're going to see, hopefully, tomorrow is a lot of flight logs, a lot of names, a lot of information.
john roberts
The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.
Will that really happen?
pam bondi
It's sitting on my desk right now to review.
That's been a directive by President Trump.
unidentified
So what happened to the Epstein client list that the Attorney General said she had on her desk?
karoline leavitt
Well, I think if you go back and look at what the Attorney General said in that interview, which was on your network on Fox News, John Roberts said, DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.
john roberts
Will that really happen?
unidentified
And she said, it's sitting on my desk right now to review.
karoline leavitt
Yes, she was saying the entirety of all of the paperwork, all of the paper in relation to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.
That's what the Attorney General was referring to, and I'll let her speak for that.
liz wheeler
This seems like unforgivable behavior.
How could she give us those phase one binders that contains nothing while bragging about the cover sheet that she made, the most transparent administration in history, and tell us that the SDNY had the real goods.
The binder was just proof of a deep state cover-up.
That was the real story she told us.
Only to now say, sorry, there's nothing.
If I'm President Trump, I wouldn't tolerate it.
She's a liability to him.
She's not worth it.
alex jones
Yeah.
Again, everybody's making it about Pam Bondi and getting over skis.
She didn't.
They went.
I mean, I had the FBI whistleblower on a day and app before it came out.
Said, no, she's been giving old stuff.
We're meeting with her.
My source is in New York.
They've got a giant cache of it.
And then a couple days later, she says, yeah, we discovered we did a debate and switched.
We're going to go in there and get it.
If they don't give it to us, 24 hours, they didn't.
They ran in and got it.
They made the head of the FBI there resign.
And then they said, yeah, this is what's in it.
And then now 180.
That's why people are pissed off.
I'm going to table this for now.
And when I come back, I'm going to get into the Democrats gearing up for serious violence.
Stay with us.
Oh, by the way, Nick Fuentez is going to be joining us coming up in the next hour.
I was going to get him on to debate Trump coming out over the weekend and saying, hey, we've got farm workers here that have been here a long time that are needed, and we're going to get a way to fast-track them to be legally here in the country.
And he's been very upset about that.
And I just simply pointed out Trump always said we're going to kick people out that are illegal and then those that are actually needed in certain areas, we'll have a way to fast track them back in.
Now, you can debate whether you want total moratorium or not.
I'm not even endorsing Trump's plan.
I'm just simply saying that I don't think Trump broke any campaign promises with what he's talking about now.
Obviously, we'll cover that some, but that's now a side issue.
The Epstein situation, Israel, Axios, it's basically the CIA mouthpiece saying Israel's getting ready to hit Iran again.
Netanyahu is saying he wants Trump to get a Nobel Peace Prize at the White House last night.
We'll be getting into all of that and more and the left's Escalating calls and action with very serious terroristic violence.
And Trump has now responded saying, no, no, no, that is not amnesty.
It's a limited work visa, is what I basically got from it, but he wasn't specific.
And now that's what he's saying.
So that's all coming up in the next hour.
And Trump made a lot of other really important statements on a bunch of other issues on tariffs, the economy, Ukraine, Iran.
We'll get to that.
But let's hit this now, okay?
There is an article on Infowars.com that you definitely want to go read.
And it's got the quotes, again, out of Axios and the Washington Post and a bunch of other establishment mouthpieces with Democrat leaders saying, we're scared.
Our constituents are hopping mad.
They're deranged.
They're demanding blood.
They're demanding violence.
And things are about to explode.
Now, I've said this many times in the buildup to this.
John Podesta's war game, August 2020, that was published, said, if Trump's able to win, they couldn't steal it.
We're going to foment big demonstrations and right-wingers will kill some people.
And then we're going to create a civil war and have blue states and cities secede and have our own swearing in of Joe Biden and have Western states break away and secede.
Okay, so that's official, full-throated, 200-proof civil war.
Now, you read these quotes in Axios and everywhere else, and I'll go over them.
And these are Democrat officials saying, this is going down.
Now, now, here's the last piece.
What did I say four and a half years ago, and then they didn't go with the plan because they were able to steal it?
And what did I say in the last couple of years leading up to the election and intensely since he was president-elect and now president?
The last thing you're going to see before they trigger the big false flags, mowing down a bunch of illegal aliens in a demonstration or something like that.
They've already said Tom Holman and ICE are going to mow down illegals with no proof, no evidence.
They draw them out.
They have riots, and then somebody mows down the crowd.
That's the main scenario, but there's others, truck bombs, you name it.
Democrat leaders getting shot, blaming it on Trump supporters.
You already saw them attempt that a month ago.
But it fizzled out because the truth came out.
And the last thing will be Democrat officials saying, we don't want violence.
It's our own base.
We're not behind this.
We don't want them to burn everything down and go to conservative lawmakers' houses and kill them.
And they say all of that in the Axios article.
We have big excerpts and links to on infowars.com.
Democrats told to get shot for the anti-Trump resistance.
Now, we've shown you many clips here the last six months in Denver and Austin and New York, where you've got Democrat organizers at these violent demonstrations and they say, we need to escalate the violence so that some of our people get killed by the police so we can trigger a national uprising.
And I play those clips many times.
And I said, see, they're being read into it.
Now they are officially having Democrat lawmakers and insiders say, oh, my God, our constituents are about to do an uprising.
So they have plausible deniability after they funded it, set it up, prepared it, had Hakeem Jeffries and all the rest of them and Corey Booker say, we got to get rowdy.
We got to do, you know, we got to get violent.
We got to be ready to fight and die, the view.
So after all of that hype and their own battle plan memos, the last thing is, ooh, we don't want violence.
We're worried about violence.
It's time to put a bullet in Trump.
Remember all that?
The government's going to kill this guy.
Remember all that?
So the last thing they'll do in an establishment mouthpiece, like Axios and the Washington Post and others, is say, oh, no, we didn't do this.
And that means they're getting ready to try to pull the trigger.
Now, they already tried in the No Kings event on June 14th.
There needs to be blood.
Democrat lawmakers say their base is preparing for violence.
And they say we need to get violent so that the feds and the police kill some people.
We needed George Floyd, but much bigger.
Now, obviously, the feds aren't going to do that.
Why would they anyways?
That's why the false flag is imminent.
I mean, you're getting tomorrow's news today here, and I'm shocked that the Democrats are pre-programming all of this in front of everybody.
And I don't see anybody else even getting what's going down.
Matt Bracken, I'm sure, knows what's going on.
Get him on.
Hell, get him on the fourth hour if we can do it.
Or tomorrow.
So, meanwhile, I probably should have started this segment with the big enchilada, but I tend to always build up to it.
You have in North Texas yesterday in Alvarez, ICE facility attack, 11 charged.
It was 10, now it's 11, in ambush on ICE officers.
They shot and wounded a cop.
They were able to take out one shooter.
And as is usually the thing with these people, the rest were there but chickened out.
Kind of like what you saw up in Minnesota on the 14th.
And instantly, his best buddy says the shooter loves Trump and Infowars.
Until the rest of the story came out that he said he worked for the governor, was there to carry out the hits so they could have destabilization.
So Jim Walls could be a hero during the crisis of Democrats getting killed, blamed on Trump.
And so he could become the senator.
I'd say, his manifesto, they won't show us.
Maybe he was crazy.
But then you have all the rest of it.
And then you have the talking point immediately that he acted alone.
He wants everybody to know it.
And he loves Infowars.
And it just got to his mind.
And he loves Trump.
So here we are.
Alvaredo ICE facility attack.
11 charged and ambush on ICE officers.
That's an insurrection.
You've already had anti-vist storm government buildings and police stations in the last few months.
Do you see it in the news?
No.
Antifarna on the street just shooting people with Trump stickers.
Do you see it in the news?
Locally.
So they're not about to try to start a civil war.
They are doing it again.
But it's like pulling the cord on a lawnmower trying to start it.
If that son of a bitch gets pulled and that sucker ignites, Katie bar the door.
Because they've got tens of tens of thousands of lunatic anti-fagoons that have got people's addresses.
Their files have been seized before and come out.
Of talk show hosts, of governors, of mayors, of police chiefs, of people.
And they are coming to your house to try to kill you.
You remember when they said I really got banned?
It was never Sandy Hook.
They had Lester Holt get up with the head of Twitter at the time, Jack Dorsey, and say, just a couple days ago, Alex Jones called for getting battle rifles and rising up and killing Democrats.
Notice they didn't show a clip.
No, they just gone and broken down the door at Tucker Carlson's house in D.C. I knew there were files they were going to target other people.
And I said, if they do their Antifa uprising, which they were planning then, everybody that is a prominent populist conservative, you name it, needs to have your battle rifle ready if they come to your house.
That was not a call for offensive attacks on anybody.
They didn't even say, oh, to Antifa.
No, they said, I just said kill Democrats.
I said the opposite.
I said, they're gearing up for violence.
You need to be ready.
And I've told law enforcement, not as if they don't already know this, you better be ready because they're coming.
But this was just the beginning.
When you turn on the news and somebody shot 160-something illegal aliens at one of these demonstrations, that's when they activate the real terror groups they got.
And that's when the Democrats got a backroom deal with the Iranians with real sleeper cells they'll activate.
So, and they got a bunch of other MS-13 and TDA and all these other groups ready to go, ready to go, ready to go.
You heard General Flynn three months ago, and I confirmed this with the top journalists who saw the reports in the administration, at the NSA.
Specific globalist Democrats, I guess, wanting people to know, arrogantly on the phone, talking about contracts with the cartels during the Civil War.
They'll use the smokescreen of the dead illegals and the general leftists burning down things and shooting people to then have their hit teams out.
See, this is real serious.
So, share your prayers, keep your head on a swivel, spread the word about what's really going on, and be locked and loaded and ready to defend yourself.
Keep a gun with you at all times.
If you are a patriot and if you're prominent, you're on a list.
And if you are an ICE agent, you are target number one, just like Hakeem Jeffries said.
We need to get nasty.
We need to get dirty.
We need to get aggressive.
We need to get.
We need to go out and cause trouble.
And now they're like, oh, we don't want any violence.
Oh, God, our constituents are about to kill everybody.
Let's go to acting U.S. Attorney Nancy Larson announces attempted murder charges against, now it's 11, 10 individuals involved in a coordinated attack on ICE offices in Texas.
Again, can you imagine if 11 MAGA people pulled up and say, please don't do this.
I'm not saying, we'd never do that.
It's ridiculous.
Shot up a whatever.
I mean, it'd be end of the world.
Insurrection, of course, would be.
But they're the ones that do it.
And they're the main suspects when somebody does the false flag, the last ingredient.
It's like you doused an entire house with 50 gallons of gasoline.
And you're about to burn it down.
And all you do is pour a string of gas out to the road and get your matches and go.
unidentified
*sad music*
alex jones
And they got their matches out.
Oh, they got them.
When the Democrats all come out in the news, oh, we're not for the violence.
Our people are going to do it.
Oh, my God.
It's imminent.
It's going to be horrible.
They got the matches out now and they're about to strike it.
Comprende?
So maybe that's why Trump's trying to clear the decks.
Like, don't worry about who tried to kill me and don't worry about you.
And let's just shut the Epstein thing down.
But even if Trump's made a deal with the globalists to back off and are trying to erupt the white flag, their own systems and their operatives and their minions aren't going to give up.
And that's the point.
And again, I'm not arguing for what I believe and the evidence is overwhelming now what Trump's done.
I'm just simply giving you my view on his mindset.
That's what I do.
You've got to get in people's heads.
The good guys, the bad guys, the undecided, the middle of the road, the lukewarm.
That's what I do.
That's all I do.
Here's the U.S. Attorney.
nancy e larson
We're here to tell you that late at night on July 4th, Friday night at approximately 10.37 p.m. at the Prairie Land ICE Detention Center in Alvaredo, Texas, 10 to 12 individuals dressed in black military-style clothing began shooting fireworks and engaging in acts of vandalism at the facility.
And this was part of an organized attack.
Today, my office has charged 10 individuals with three counts of attempted murder of a federal officer.
Each of the 10 are also charged with three counts of discharging a firearm in relation to a crime of violence.
Each of these defendants faces a mandatory prison term of 10 years and up to life in prison.
An additional co-conspirator was charged with obstruction of justice and conspiracy for attempting to conceal and destroy evidence in relation to the attack.
And he faces up to 10 years in prison.
Let's discuss the incident.
It was a planned ambush with the intent to kill ICE corrections officers.
Make no mistake, this was not a so-called peaceful protest.
It was indeed an ambush.
alex jones
And I want to be 100% clear.
I mean, I knew this, but I'm here thinking about big picture.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
There's this event with them coming to plan to do this in North Texas, and then down in McCallan yesterday, this individual looks just like Antiva, pulls up, ambushes, shoots the cop, gets killed, put it back on screen.
So see, two Texas attacks, and we didn't even learn about the one on July 4th until today.
Again, I see reports of Antifa taking over buildings, police stations, colleges all the time, but it's local news.
It's not even on the national news.
Officer shot and man with rival killed after exchanging a fire at Border Patrol facility in Texas.
Look how they spit it in CNN like they exchanged fire.
No, he came and opened fire on them.
Show the other headline.
ICE agents targeted two ambush attacks in recent days.
Yeah.
Because there's so much going on.
I tend to conflate things.
It's like I was saying, Tucker's interviewing the Ayatollah.
No, he interviewed the president.
I just, they say Alex Jones is always right.
No, there's so much going on.
And I got so much going on.
I'll get the really detailed stuff dead on.
And I'll like, whoo, because there's so much of it happening.
And I would imagine that it'll end up, it's connected to the same group, which is this hardcore accelerationist, anti-fib cult.
And then you've got the right-wing accelerationists that are 100% intelligence operations led by the feds.
And they've got them out geared up and ready.
And then the average FBI agent even working the case doesn't even know that the leader of the group is CIA or Mossad or German intelligence.
They use them a lot.
And then they'll have their own group.
And you'll have feds infiltrating it that don't even know what's happening up the chain.
So this is just absolutely explosive.
Absolutely explosive.
So yesterday we have a ICE facility in McAllen shot up.
Cop gets seriously wounded.
They killed the shooter.
Guy dressed in black.
We learned over July 4th, you've got an attack to come and try to kill and burn down a facility in North Texas, in Alvarez.
And then you've got this.
Really important information.
There needs to be blood.
Democrat lawmakers say their base is prepping for violence.
This idea that we're going to save every norm and we're not going to play the Republican game.
I don't think that's resonating with voters anymore, said House Democrat admitted to Axios.
Our own base is telling us that what we're doing is not good enough, that there needs to be blood to grab the attention of the press and the public.
One lawmaker revealed describing discussions with furious progressives.
Progressives, I mean communists, Devil Wars, pedophiles.
House Democrats are getting torched by their own base, and some of the constituents are literally suggesting they fight a match.
Shocker, we know.
From the party that held nationwide riots over George Floyd, mostly peaceful.
And then it goes in to all the quotes.
Our own base is telling us that there needs to be blood to grab the attention of the press and the public.
There needs to be blood.
There needs to be blood.
They want their people hurt.
They want their people dead.
So they can play victim and get the corporate media to say they're victims.
They need some brown people dead so that people can believe Trump's Hitler.
Representative Brad Schindler of Illinois, chair of the New Democrat Coalition, acknowledged the heat from his base.
We've got people who are desperately wanting us to do something no matter what.
We say they want more.
One Democrat recalled people suggesting they should be willing to get shot.
And now you see them attacking ICE all over the country in LA, crowds of people attacking them.
That's coming up on the other side.
And the corporate media spends it like it's normal and good.
Stay with us.
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All right.
So finishing up on the Democrats plan for civil war to be billed as a race war and the Democrats admitting that their base wants a bunch of them to be killed so they can play victim.
I'm sure some bad guys are probably going to oblige that for them.
The false flag.
So you've got the two incidences in just the last few days in Texas of border patrol facilities and ICE facilities getting shot up.
Police officers shot.
One of these crazies killed.
11 other antifoot arrested.
Planning a big July 4th attack.
Another facility in North Texas.
It goes on and on.
Meanwhile, bystanders confront federal immigration agents as they descend on MacArthur Park.
So ICE goes out to arrest illegal alien gangbangers and others.
And a bunch of people come and confront them and scream at them and yell at them.
These are the big foreign hostile groups.
These are the big foreign outside hostile groups that have been brought in that are the detonator the Democrats in the deep state can use to destabilize the country, bill them all as victims, give the feds do their job during an insurrection, say it's racially based, trumpets Hitler, and have their civil war.
Here's a local newscast from Los Angeles.
coleen sullivan
We have breaking news right now.
Federal agents and National Guard troops descending on MacArthur Park today for what looked like a heavily militarized raid.
john roberts
The neighborhood is home to a large immigrant population.
unidentified
However, agents appeared to have left largely empty-handed.
Eyewitness news reporter Annabel Muñoz is live at MacArthur Park with the latest on what happened today.
john roberts
Annabelle.
anabel munoz
Philip and College, this started unfolding around 11.30 or just before 11.30 this morning.
Let's go to some video that we captured from Air 7 so you could see what was happening on the ground.
We could see who appeared to be federal agents holding weapons standing on an armored vehicle.
Many in the public quickly responded to what they were seeing.
You could see community members following that vehicle and filming on their cell phones.
Scott Reif also spotted what appeared to be many large National Guard vehicles.
Mayor Bass released a video during a news conference today showing what she described as a troop formation on horseback at MacArthur Park.
She also highlighted that there were children there as part of a summer camp.
Many of those who responded to the scene are volunteers with a community self-defense coalition, including Union Del Varrio.
We spoke with them about what transpired this morning.
Meantime, Mayor Bass held a news conference this afternoon saying she was alerted to what was happening and went to the park.
She says she asked to speak with someone in charge and was put on the phone with an individual who told her they would be leaving in a few minutes.
Here's more of what she said.
karen bass
Now you can spin it any way you like, but in my opinion, it's a political agenda of provoking fear and terror.
Frankly, it is outrageous and un-American that we have federal armed vehicles in our parks when nothing is going on in the parks.
It's outrageous and un-American that the federal government seized our state's National Guard.
unidentified
Please understand that what's happening here in the city of Los Angeles, we are the canary in the coal mine.
What you see happening in MacArthur Park is coming to you.
karen bass
$140 billion new budget for ICE.
kristi noem
What do you think that's going to do?
unidentified
That's going to transport what's happening here in our neighborhoods to your front doorstep.
karen bass
So wake up.
ron gochez
They brought terror to the community, but they didn't have the Guts to stick around because they knew if they stuck around here to really do a big raid, the community would come out to defend the people.
And that's exactly why we're here.
They have all the courage when it's a senior citizen vendor selling flowers by a cemetery.
They have the courage to go kidnap her.
But when the masses come out, where's the courage?
unidentified
We'll never be divided!
I saw the village!
anabel munoz
Many continued rallying and protesting this afternoon, calling for ICE and the military to leave.
We've reached out to the Department of Homeland Security to ask which agencies were here, why, if anyone was taken, and if so, where they are.
We got a response attributed to a senior official which stated, We don't comment on ongoing enforcement operations.
We should note today marks 30 days since June 6th with many of these raids began in several weeks since those who appear to be federal authorities have taken people from workplaces, sidewalks, and parking lots.
Right now, I'm standing outside of a basement known as B18 outside of the federal building.
And that is where many people are in immigration custody and where many have denounced what they describe as inhumane conditions.
We should note there will also be a news conference here with Union Del Varrio at 5 o'clock, reporting live in downtown Los Angeles.
Annabel Muñoz, ABC 7 eyewitnesses.
unidentified
Annabelle Muñoz.
alex jones
Thank you.
It's very simple.
You bring in 40, 50 million people in the last decade, really last 15 years, 20 million of them in just the last four.
And they can engage in whatever type of criminal activity they want.
They're here illegally.
And then if you try to deport any of them, well, there's community defense groups, communist, and you heard the guy, well, they'd have stayed around.
We were really going to show them.
You mean you're going to attack them, kind of like the ICE facilities that we've been seeing get attacked here in Texas.
I mean, that's where this goes.
And then there's a major uprising.
Then the governor and the mayors come out and say, that's it.
Our city is not part of this.
We're a sanctuary against Hitler 2.0.
And that's the Podesta secession plan.
And so they brought in all these foreigners.
Some of them are nice.
Some of them are bad.
Some of them are criminals.
Some of them aren't.
Something they're all criminals are here illegally, but they're not committing a bunch of other crimes.
It doesn't matter.
It's all part of the larger invasion takedown.
And for the new voting block, and for the apportionment in Congress.
To get the new seats for the Democrats.
They admit that.
And so we have to understand that the views has been lit on this.
And it's ICE that's outnumbered.
It's ICE that is the David versus the Goliath.
And these Democrat cities are killing the country.
I mean, in Mexico, they're burning down tourist areas because they're sick of the, quote, white tourist.
And they're attacking white people that have moved to Mexico because it's cheaper.
And that's what tribalism's like.
I mean, there's this idea that only white people have been tribal.
We've actually been the least tribal because of Christianity.
But you try to go anywhere else.
People are tribal.
People are territorial.
But you don't see this on our news here.
Giant riots all over Mexico attacking anything seen as non-Mexican and telling white terrorists, get out.
We don't want you here.
We don't want white people around here.
So now I'm not saying all Mexicans are like that.
The point is, is that the Democrats understand the demographics and that they brainwash the people that do get here into hating the country and are so entitled and on welfare that they think that any enforcement of the law is just the worst thing the world's ever seen.
That's the entitlement.
But here is Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller explaining exactly what's going on and also Tom Homan.
This is the facts.
stephen miller
There is an insurrectionist movement in the Democratic Party that is inspiring domestic terrorism against ICE.
When you have the mayor of Los Angeles mobilizing agitators, mobilizing the mob against ICE, saying that federal law enforcement has to leave her city, this is a settled constitutional question.
Federal law is the supreme law of the land.
You cannot nullify it.
You cannot succeed from it.
It is the law of the United States of America.
So these insurrectionist Democrats are every day engaging in rhetoric that is incentivizing, that is encouraging, that is fomenting violent terrorist attacks against ICE and ICE officers.
Not only in the shootings that you've seen recently, but ICE officers are being doxxed.
Their families and children are being threatened.
Their addresses are being posted online.
They are being subjected to a campaign of terror by these radical Democrats.
This is the central struggle in the West.
The Democrat Party's objective is to flood the West with millions upon millions of illegals from the developing world, from the poor nations of the world, the failed states of the world, the collapsing states of the world, believing that in so doing, they will collapse the West.
They will collapse the middle class.
They will collapse the population that has lived here before the migrants came.
And in so doing, they think in the rubble of that, they can rule.
They can sit on top the pile of ashes.
Ask yourself this.
Why is it that Democrats are so insistent that unlimited numbers of illegals from countries that are incapable of managing their own affairs come here?
Countries like Somalia, countries like Haiti, countries that have no history of successful self-government, and they want unlimited numbers of illegals from those countries and refugees from those countries to come here with no chance at the pace, the scale, the scope of arrivals at being able to assimilate and integrate into the American way of life.
What has it done to our schools?
What has it done to our hospitals?
What has it done to just traffic in our cities?
Every issue that affects our quality of life, Jesse, public safety, drugs, crime, education, healthcare, waiting in the emergency room, are all exacerbated, worsened, and undermined by mass illegal immigration.
tom homan
I've been warning about this for two months.
I think last time I did your show, Laura, we talked about it.
I also talked about in the Hannity show, that I've been around a long time.
I said, if the rhetoric didn't decrease significantly, it's going to end up with loss of life.
It's going to end up with a use of force either against a protester turning criminal or against ICE or Borg Tulayton.
Someone's going to be seriously, seriously injured if not killed.
And of course, the media attacked me.
Fear of Migra Holman.
He's threatening that someone's going to die.
Look, I've been around a long time.
You've got members of Congress, J.F. Paul, comparing me to terrorists.
The AOC says we're out there violating people's civil constitutional rights.
You've got Jeffreys out there running his mouth about the Gestapo.
The ramped up rhetoric is going to cause a situation where someone loses their life.
We saw that today.
I was hoping I'd be wrong, but I wasn't.
And I'll tell you something else.
It's not the end.
Unless we stop the hateful rhetoric against ICE and Border Patrol, comparing them to Nazis, there's going to be more situations like that.
ICE has already stepped up an enforcement posture at their facilities.
Border Patrol has done the same thing.
But the rhetoric has to stop.
They're simply enforcing law that Congress enacted.
So for Congress to attack them, to enforce them the laws they wrote, it's ridiculous.
And it's going to end in bloodshed.
I think there will be more bloodshed.
alex jones
Well, we already got a cop shot, shot up, ICE facilities in Texas, multiple.
I mean, it's here.
And this is just the fuse being led.
And of course, here's all the Democrats saying, we need blood.
We need to get our constituents killed.
That's what Podesta said in the war games.
They're doing it.
Now, that doesn't mean they're going to be successful.
But imagine the 350-plus thousand little children that they know of that they were ordered to hand over the Border Patrol to NIH, who would then give them to NGOs with no documentation in most cases and just disappeared them.
That's the real evil.
And all the crime that the illegal aliens engage in.
Yeah, most of them are mowing your lawn or making delicious tacos and they're nice people.
Okay.
Or, you know, little wood shops or, you know, whatever.
But a large percentage were let out of prison or mentally ill and are criminals.
And it's part of the crime wave.
And then we got to pay for all the welfare.
We have imported the third world.
We are becoming the third world.
Then the Democrats and the left are there brainwashing them into anti-American, anti-Western, anti-white philosophy to divide and conquer the country.
That's their plan.
They've done it in Europe with the Africans and the Islamics and all the rest of it.
And I've got statistics and reports here out of Germany.
Today, 80 plus percent of the crime is the migrants in Germany, even though they're only 10% of the population.
Because they are almost all military-age men.
And they come to rape and steal and kill.
They come from hellish, barbarous places.
And the meanest ones come.
And I am just sick of all the arrogance of the illegal aliens and all the different permutations of them.
And I feel sorry for the people that were fleeing globalist lockdown tyranny that collapsed the third world that do want to come here and work and be good people.
But you can't sit there and put up with any of this.
This is the existential battle for the West and the future of the world.
This is the big domestic issue.
Rome fell bringing in too many foreigners.
And finally, they said in 410, you know, let's just burn it down.
And they did.
And so we call after that the Dark Ages or the Middle Ages.
For a thousand years.
And you go to these third world countries, you get away from the tourism areas, you're in the Dark Ages.
But you're taught the West is horrible and evil.
Well, what we've become is horrible and evil on average.
But no, no, no.
We're the place with the chivalry and the private property and the due process and everything.
And the globalists want to discredit that because it stands in the way of their global corporate panopticonic AI slave system.
ICE on horseback, hunt for illegals, crowd confront troops, Operation Excalibur.
And then, oh, Trump deports fear of Obama.
Yeah, because they've dismantled under Biden all of the enforcement.
And as they try to scale it back up, they get blocked everywhere and attacked.
So they attack Trump with his base going, look, Trump's not doing a good enough job.
And then they attack trying to block them doing their job.
And it's getting more and more intense by the day.
Nick Fuentez is coming up.
We'll talk about this.
We'll talk about the Epstein situation.
Let's get the clip from the state fair in Iowa.
It's a short clip.
We played it Sunday and yesterday where, you know, Trump talks about farm workers and others getting a way to fast track them back in.
Yeah, you go to South Texas.
It's mainly Hispanic Americans that own farms.
And then you have the farm workers that come across seasonally and go back.
And I've never been against that.
I mean, those people are about the lowest crime rate you can have is a real Mexican farmer.
They're all Catholics and friendly and really nice.
But they're 3% of the illegal aliens in the country, according to statistics.
So when people say, oh, he's going to give Amnesty to millions, it's not Amnesty.
It's a worker program.
And it's not millions.
But I'll discuss that when Nick Fuente is coming up.
I'm going to debate him on that.
In a friendly way.
I appreciate him coming on.
And Trump, by the way, at his press conference during his, get that clip.
I know you had it.
I forgot to tell you to get ready.
Trump did respond to this today and said it's not amnesty.
It's a worker program.
So here's Trump in Iowa Saturday, and then here's Trump today in the White House.
Tom Holman.
donald j trump
And we're working on legislation right now.
Susie, right?
We're working on legislation right now where farmers, look, they know better.
They work with them for years.
You had cases where, not here, but just even over the years, where people have worked for a farm on a farm for 14, 15 years, and they get thrown out pretty viciously.
And we can't do it.
We've got to work with the farmers and people that have hotels and leisure properties too.
We're going to work with them and we're going to work very strong and smart.
And we're going to put you in charge.
We're going to make you responsible.
And I think that that's going to make a lot of people happy.
Now, serious radical right people, who I also happen to like a lot, they may not be quite as happy, but they'll understand, won't they?
Do you think so?
Madam Secretary, look at you with a white hat on.
Do you think they'll understand that you're the one that brought this whole situation up?
There's no amnesty.
What we're doing is we're getting rid of criminals, but we are doing a work program.
Do you want to explain that, please?
brooke rollins
Yeah, this morning we talked about, of course, this was a top of mind question.
This morning we talked about protecting the farmers in the farmland.
But obviously, this president's vision of no amnesty, mass deportation continues, but in a strategic way, and then ensuring that our farmers have the labor that they need.
Secretary Chavez Drimmer has been a leader on this.
Obviously, this comes out of the labor department, but moving toward automation, ensuring that our farmers have that workforce and moving toward an American workforce.
So all of the above.
donald j trump
We want to give the farmers the people they need, but we're not talking amnesty.
alex jones
Okay.
So what you're witnessing is America reestablishing and reasserting its sovereignty and ending the UN replacement migration weapons system that they admit is meant to take down the West.
This is what must be done.
And I'm sad for some of the illegal aliens that are nice people that are going to get deported.
But you came here as part of a globalist-pushed invasion.
And that's how the law works, and that's what needs to be done.
Now, you've got a lot of the ultra-right-wingers or however Trump put it, come on, Nick Fuentes, radical right, whatever, that want total moratorium.
And quite frankly, I think we've been so overrun.
I'm for that.
But I'm not mad at Trump for following through on his campaign promises.
He always said worker programs.
I don't like Microsoft laying off thousands and then hiring thousands of Indians the same day last week.
Not against Indians, but you know, you can't just replace every one of our jobs.
And there are a lot of Indians.
I mean, I thought, I went to the mall a few days ago.
And I thought I was in India.
So that's an area I do think Trump has been wrong on is wanting to, those skilled visas.
It's just out of control.
Absolutely out of control.
All right, we're going to go to break.
Come back with Nick Fuentez.
I got a lot more coming up in the fourth hour.
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Nick Fuente has just connected.
I'm really looking forward to interviewing him.
Very smart, very well-versed.
I agree with a lot of what he says, disagree with some of what he says, but it's thought-provoking.
And the globalists, the establishment, don't want you to hear from people like he and I. And I invited him on over the weekend to have a little bit of a debate about Trump and his border and enforcement policies because I disagree some with Nick.
But now with this Epstein thing and then now with the Democrats doing a new uprising and all the rest of it and the Netanyahu peace prize behavior there in the White House and Axios is the CIA mouthpiece.
That's where they put the first talking points out now.
Used to be the New York Times, now it's Axios, saying Israel's getting ready to hit Iran again.
I mean, this is just unmitigated disaster.
And then you've got Trump in the White House today.
And now I found the larger clip, the one we played first and the went up on X from the cabinet meeting, press conference, didn't have the most of the question on it.
Well, the question was really important about him being a Mossad operative, which of course he was.
And I love if you point that out.
They say it's anti-Semitism.
What?
Israel?
We haven't jailed a bunch of Israeli spies.
Trump didn't pardon one, the most famous one, when he was leaving office in 2021.
What?
Maxwell's dad wasn't buried with Mossad honors.
And they're MI6, CIA2.
It's all the same group.
But that's one reason they're hiding this is because the U.S. intelligence agencies don't want it out.
And I guess Trump doesn't really want to go to war with them.
Or you could say, is he in the files like Elon Musk said?
I've never seen any evidence of that.
But the way Trump behaved today when he got asked this question and said, basically, it's, you know, you're desecrating dead kids in Texas by asking this question showed Trump is really worried about this.
And it's the equivalent of putting blood in the water for sharks.
This is going to get really big.
Stay with us.
Back in 60 seconds with Nick Fuentez.
All right, my friends, we are now into our number three of this Tuesday, July 8th, 2025 transmission.
And something happened yesterday that I predicted and it wasn't hard to predict is going to become the major scandal of the 47th presidency of the United States.
I don't like it.
I need Trump to succeed.
For heaven's sakes, the Democrats get back in.
They are going to indict me and try to put me in prison.
They've said it.
I mean, I got skin of the game here.
I have been persecuted for supporting Trump massively in the last nine and a half years, and it's been intense.
And a lot of you have been put through hell.
And overall, I love what he's doing on so many fronts.
But when he started having Bongino and Patel and the rest of them in the last few months start doing a 180 from, oh, yeah, we got 14 terabytes of child rape and torture.
And, you know, and, you know, all these perpetrators that were involved, we're going to get them all.
And then to see really ham-fisted spin by Pam Bonji today, the clip we're about to play, after Trump snaps the reporter and gives him the laser eyes, which you don't see very often anymore.
That is only going to bring massive attention onto this.
And there are congressional hearings and all the rest of it.
And just the whopper of, oh, look, here's the video of around the door.
You can't see Epstein's jail, but his cell.
But look, see, he killed himself.
And oh, look, the guy in Butler acted alone.
And oh, look, there was no black book.
There were no clients.
There was no black.
No, there was no human trafficking.
But Gisley Maxwell is convicted of human trafficking.
And I said yesterday, I said, this is Trump.
He's made a deal with the globalists to back off of him if he doesn't prosecute this.
They think it'll bring down the stock market if they bring it out.
I see the pragmatic argument.
I don't agree with it, but I wargame the mindset.
I didn't defend it as some try to spend.
And then, but I said, if he puts a statement out today or tomorrow saying, no, I want it investigated and countermanding his people, then this means that his folks have been compromised by the deep state.
But I said, I predict he's going to defend this.
And sure as hell, he came out about four o'clock.
I've been off the air about an hour.
And a crew member walks up and hands me the post on True Social.
And I just sat down and read it and got a splitting headache.
And usually stressful stuff doesn't do that to me.
A sinking feeling again.
President Trump praises FBI Director Cash Patel and Dan Bongino as outrage grows over Epstein whitewash report.
DOJ says there's no evidence client list as it backs off promise releases.
He got me quoted in the Wall Street Journal.
The FBI's Monday explanation failed to satisfy many of the more conspiracy-minded MAGA influencers.
No one is buying this InfoWars, Totter Alex Jones said on X. Next to DLJ will say, actually, Jeffrey Epstein never existed.
This is over-the-top sickening.
So here's a clip from a few hours ago that's gone mega viral of Trump pretty much blowing up, going off on a reporter.
We'll get Nick Fuentez's take on this straight away.
Here it is.
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Epstein, it lets some lingering mysteries of one of the biggest ones is whether he ever worked for a American or foreign intelligence agency.
The former labor secretary, who was Miami U.S. Attorney Alex Kostick, he allegedly said that he did work for an intelligence agency.
So, could you resolve whether or not he did?
And also, could you say why there was a minute missing from the jailhouse tape on the 96th?
pam bondi
Yeah, sure.
donald j trump
Kim, could I just interrupt for a second?
Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?
This guy's been talked about for years.
You're asking, we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things.
And are people still talking about this guy, this creep?
That is unbelievable.
Do you want to waste the time?
Do you feel like answering?
pam bondi
I don't mind answering.
donald j trump
I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on Epstein at a time like this where we're having some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what happened in Texas.
It just seems like a desecration.
But you go ahead.
pam bondi
Sure.
First, to back up on that, in February, I did an interview on Fox, and it's been getting a lot of attention because I said, I was asked a question about the client list, and my response was, it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed, meaning the file, along with the JFK MLK files as well.
That's what I meant by that.
Also, to the tens of thousands of video, they turned out to be child porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein.
Child porn is what they were.
Never going to be released, never going to see the light of day.
To him being an agent, I have no knowledge about that.
We can get back to you on that.
And the minute missing from the video, we released the video showing definitively, the video was not conclusive, but the evidence prior to it was showing he committed suicide.
And what was on that, there was a minute that was off the counter.
And what we learned from Bureau of Prisons was every year, every night, they redo that video.
It's old from like 1999.
So every night the video is reset, and every night should have the same minute missing.
So we're looking for that video to release that as well, showing that a minute is missing every night.
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And that's it on Epstein.
All right.
alex jones
There's a lot to unpack here.
And I've got a pretty good idea what's going on.
In fact, I know.
And a lot of listeners were blaming Pam Bondi.
They say, oh, throw her over the bus.
She just misspoke out of her skis.
No, this confirmed they have this stuff.
Okay.
So, no, it's Trump.
And you see that there, and you see it with a statement about the FBI doing a great job.
Now they can move on to do more important things.
This is crazy.
Nick J. Fuentez, popular talk show host and the leader of America First.
Find him on Rumble at Nick J. Fuentez and, of course, on X. Nick, thanks for coming on.
It's good to have you here, but not a good situation.
I got to tell you, I know you want Trump to succeed.
You know, so do I. But wow, this is just something else.
I can't defend this or not talk about this because my soul isn't for sale.
And I just feel dirty even watching this.
nick fuentes
Yeah, it's a complete disaster.
And I said this on my show last night.
This is actually the opposite of what they promised they would do.
This is actually worse than what was done under Biden or under the previous Trump administration because this is an active cover-up.
They're burying the story.
And it would be one thing I think people might have this expectation if they indefinitely put this off.
They just never addressed it again.
They never did a phase two reveal.
Maybe they left it open to interpretation.
But now they're coming out and they're effectively lying about it and they're denying all the critical aspects of the story, even the ones that we know are true.
They came out yesterday and not only did they say there'd be no phase two revelations after the embarrassing debacle with the binders earlier in the year, but they're saying there is no client list at all.
And as a matter of fact, Jeffrey Epstein wasn't even involved in blackmail.
We know that's not true.
His entire apartment and the island and all his residences were loaded up with cameras, with microphones.
We've seen the photos of the videotape recording equipment, the boxes of tapes.
We have the testimony from his accusers, the various people he sex trafficked.
They all testified he recorded all this stuff.
What would be the purpose of it other than blackmail?
He got charged not once, but twice in the mid-2000s and then again in the late 2010s for procuring minors for the purpose of sex trafficking and sex trafficking.
So he's finding minors, trafficking them for sex, recording the sexual encounters at his residences with powerful people that are on the private jet, they're on the island, they're on the residence, and they're telling us, even though there's sex trafficking, there's no clients.
Even though there's powerful people on the flight logs, there's no client list.
Even though he's a sex trafficker, it wasn't a blackmail ring.
This is stuff that we know is not true.
And I don't think I'm the only one to point out the timing is a little bit conspicuous.
Of course, Jeffrey Epstein, his main accomplice, Jelaine Maxwell, is the daughter of Mossad super spy Robert Maxwell.
He was close with Les Wexner, the Jewish billionaire who's in the mega group, which is a mega large group of Jewish pro-Israel billionaires.
alex jones
Don't forget the Israelis caught over and over again with Epstein at his dungeon.
nick fuentes
Exactly.
And the connections are deep and vast.
And this story was buried the day before Net Yahoo's third visit to the White House on 7-7, July 7th.
I just don't believe in coincidences like this.
And so it's clearly a cover-up.
And that clip that you just showed of Trump in the cabinet meeting, it's embarrassing.
It's embarrassing.
It's shocking.
Every Trump supporter should feel humiliated at this point.
And it's like you said, I don't take any pleasure in this.
I feel a little bit vindicated about it.
I want Trump to succeed.
I want these disclosures to happen.
And what's interesting is that Trump typically is a master of these types of media spin.
He's usually very adept and very quick on his feet and the master of rhetoric.
And this is maybe the first time when there's such a disconnect between what the bass is feeling and what's going to play well in the media and what he's saying.
In his mind, maybe he thought this was like a really persuasive angle to say, why are we talking about this?
There's bigger issues to talk about.
Such a completely tone deaf and bizarre.
I said on Twitter, okay, poker face.
I mean, as if we don't know what's going on here.
So it's honestly, it stinks.
This is maybe the most embarrassing thing yet so far in the Trump administration in the second term.
And you got to wonder what is going through his head.
What are his advisors telling him?
Is it that he's so cloistered on true social in an echo chamber that this is just the pinnacle of exuberance?
Is this like a God complex type hubris where he really thinks anything goes now?
He can get away with anything.
I'm really just not sure what the mindset is here, but it just seems like one thing after the next.
You know, we just got done with the Iran war controversy.
I came on today to talk about immigration, which, you know, and we maybe have a disagreement, but the base is outraged about this, only to get caught up in now the latest, newest scandal, a new controversy about something that should have been a grand slam, release the documents.
And now he's actually not only not releasing them, but actually burying the story and doing this bizarre spin, running cover for it, saying no one should even be talking about it.
The guy's a creep standing on the graves of the people dead in Texas.
This is some golden age.
This is some start to the second term.
I hate it.
And I like you.
I mean, look, I don't say these things because I'm rooting for his downfall.
I'm in no way, shape, or form in any way taking any kind of pleasure in Trump crashing and burning like this.
I want him to succeed.
I want the country to succeed.
Like you, I was a major Trump supporter in 2016 and 2020.
I had high hopes.
I have an authentic belief in him and in this entire movement in MAGA, in America first.
But we have to call spade a spade.
We have to be sober.
We have to be objective.
We have to be in reality.
It's like you said, this is just indefensible.
And so I, like many other people, some who supported Trump in this cycle, many who didn't, I'm sitting here asking, what exactly is going on in this administration?
It's a complete disaster.
So I hope they reverse course on this.
I have no confidence that they will.
And I, like you, believe that clearly there's some sort of deal that's going on.
And it's hard to say, do they have something over his head?
Does he have something over their head?
Of course, it's all speculative.
We can't know for sure.
All we can do is.
alex jones
You're on fire right now.
And I wasn't going to interrupt you, but your camera's been out of focus for about five minutes.
So I want to be able to go back to you.
I want you to stop right there.
It's okay.
I want you to stop right there because I want to get into the big question.
What type of deal has been made?
I think it's overwhelmingly clear.
It has happened.
Again, listeners were like, no, it's not Trump here.
Stay.
It's Bondi.
She messed up.
No, it's Trump.
We're not here to BS people.
And we've got to get a course correction here.
And, you know, obviously I'm going to support Trump on the good things.
I'm not going to support him on the bad things.
We're not like the Democrat Party cult that will go along with whatever their leaders do and say Joe Biden's the smartest man in the world and the smartest he's ever been.
And this new Joe Biden is the best Joe Biden.
And we're not going to say two men can have a baby.
I mean, if Trump came out and said that, I'd say he's crazy.
Okay.
So this is kind of approaching that level of gaslighting here.
And it's obviously no one's buying it regardless.
And so we have to then logically say, why has this been done?
But again, look at Mondi saying, oh, I meant this.
I meant that.
No, she was very clear in undercover videos and in press conferences months and months and months ago that, no, we've got hundreds of new victims and kids getting raped and Epstein doing it on and on and on.
And now they try this massive spin.
And then the Democrats are going to come in on this, even though they're all implicated.
And this is going to be the big scandal.
And so, and I said yesterday, Trump better say, oh, no, no, keep an investigation going.
Because obviously, if they really wanted to cover it up, then they would just say, oh, it's an endless investigation forever.
And it would just go away.
This was whole-in-one Tiger Woods level skill at blowing your own feet off.
I mean, this is a perfect, perfect 100.
If you wanted to take all this success and all of the incredible things that are happening and flush it down the toilet, burn it up, throw it in the garbage.
Here's a clip of Pam Bonnie, and we'll go back to Nick Fuentes.
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James Palmer said yesterday that all the Epstein files are missing.
alex jones
Can you confirm it?
pam bondi
No, no, the FBI, yeah, the FBI, they're reviewing there are tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child porn.
And there are hundreds of victims, and no one victim will ever get released.
It's just the volume, and that's what they're going through right now.
The FBI is diligently going through that.
I haven't seen that statement, but I'll call him later and find out.
alex jones
And it goes on and on.
So, Nick, you're back.
Start over, and then let's get to the big central issue, wargaming.
And some listeners don't understand this.
So some go on next few years.
They go, well, wait, if it's blackmail info, how would Trump now be in control of the blackmail info to control the deep state?
Because the deep state globalists, Brennan Obama, we know who's running the Clintons, were using that to control politicians, scientists, bankers.
So now if Trump gets that file, kind of like what J. Edgar Hoover died, and then Nixon got the file, that's the whole point.
And so people need to understand how this works.
And clearly, the question would always be, will Trump use the Epstein files if they weren't all destroyed, which we know they got a bunch of them, to then blackmail the deep state, or would he bring them all down with it?
And now I think we've got the answer of where it's going.
Nick, go ahead.
nick fuentes
Yeah, I totally agree.
And, you know, there's also something clear, which is I think Trump is worried about what's in the files.
And we have some evidence about that.
And I've seen your analysis on this.
And I agree in some sense that if there was anything that would indict Trump inside the files, obviously the Democrats would be all over that.
Obviously, the Biden administration and their DOJ was in control of that information.
If there was anything that they could use to charge him or anything embarrassing, probably they would have leaked out to the press.
It would have went to Congress.
They would have filed charges.
That would have been the surest way to bring him down, destroy his credibility.
So I totally understand that argument.
At the same time, there is a lot of troubling evidence surrounding the topic.
First of all, you have Jeffrey Epstein testimony from 15 years ago where he claimed, and he could be lying.
It's certainly possible that he's exaggerating this or even making it up, but he said that he was close friends with Donald Trump.
We have that on tape.
That's on the record.
It's sworn testimony.
He said that he was friends with Donald Trump.
This is before he died.
It was before even he got charged a second time.
We also have a very strange interview from last year during the election where he's asked by a reporter about the declassification of all these topics.
They say, are you going to declassify 9-11?
He goes, yes.
Are you going to declassify JFK?
He says, absolutely.
Are you going to declassify Jeffrey Epstein?
He goes, yes.
And then very quickly, he says, well, maybe he goes, because there's some people that might be named in it and it might ruin their lives.
And I'm not so sure.
And that always struck me as very bizarre.
And obviously, I mean, you know, you can draw a conclusion from that, which is he is worried that he's named in it.
And even if it doesn't indict him, even it's not, if it's not something criminal in nature or he's not indicted in the sex trafficking or anything bad, his name being present in the documents at all would be a big problem for him in terms of PR.
Clearly, that was his concern.
That's probably why I answered the question that way.
Then, of course, a week before the strikes in Iran, Elon Musk famously says on Twitter, the reason you don't have the files is because Trump is in them.
Today, Musk is saying that Bannon is in the files.
Now, once again, this is one person's word against another.
So this is Elon Musk, and he's got a reason to play into that.
He's got a rivalry now with the president.
He was exiled from the White House, wasn't able to achieve his policy priorities, which is cutting the deficit.
He's got a major bone to pick with Steve Bannon.
So it makes sense why he'd say something like that.
Would he make something up like that out of whole cloth?
And so between the Epstein testimony, the weird Trump evasive answer in the interview, then the Elon Musk claim on Twitter, you know, to me, that's enough smoke to say where there's smoke, there's fire.
And let's remember also, Epstein died in custody of the Department of Justice.
It was Bill Barr as attorney general that was technically in control of the federal prison system.
When Epstein died in 2019, Trump was president.
Now here we are five years later, fast forward.
And once again, it is Pam Bondi as head of the DOJ.
It's Cash Patel.
Nobody could say these people aren't MAGA.
Nobody could say these people don't want to release the Epstein tapes, ostensibly.
They've been talking about doing it for five years.
And yet this is the administration that's going to bury it.
Something is very fishy here.
And I would just point to the timing of it and the conspicuous coincidence, which is that they bury the story the day before Netanyahu arrives.
And, you know, that could be just a massive coincidence, but it's weird that they bookended like this.
Elon Musk says Trump is in the files.
A week later, Israel bombs Iran.
And that was in complete contravention of Trump's diplomatic push to try to achieve a deal.
Then, weeks after the ceasefire, Netanyahu comes to the White House, and it's reported in Axios by Barack Ravid, he's going to ask the White House to bomb Iran more.
Israel wants more strikes.
They say Reuters, Netanyahu wants a second war with Iran.
They want to do something even bigger.
They think there's an opportunity.
They're asking Trump to open it up like the Lebanon model, which means they're going to just bomb them all the time with regularity.
And it's the day before this visit.
Again, it's sort of like bookended what's happening in Iran that the story then gets buried.
And of course, the story runs through Jerusalem.
The story runs through New York City and Jerusalem.
So there's clearly something fishy going on.
And I am less confident in this Trump maximalist idea, this theory that, you know, he's masterfully playing five-dimensional chess and, you know, he's got the elites bent over the barrel.
It certainly doesn't feel that way.
Feels like the other way around.
And given, again, you know, his concern about the files being released, this whole situation with Iran, him going with Israel against really his own diplomatic initiative, it seems like they have something on him.
And that to me was always the concern with this guy.
He's surrounded by this element.
In the first administration, it was the Chabab Lubavitchers through Jared Kushner.
They pulled out of the Iran deal.
You had all this smoke the first term.
Now we're having all this stuff come back the second time.
It's sort of like in the last five years, everybody forgot about all this.
Everybody started to believe in, you know, kind of like a Trump that didn't exist.
Got back into believing this simulacrum, you know, vapor wave, vaporware version of Trump from TikTok edits, from hype edits, videos with music playing.
And they forgot what the first term was really like.
It wasn't all that great.
So unfortunately, it just feels like deja vu all over again.
And if we can't trust him on the Epstein files, there's some very dark implications in all of that.
I wouldn't say it's one issue.
I think it's maybe the central threat.
And once you start to tug on that, the whole thing comes undone.
So it's a very ominous foreshadowing of the next few years.
I don't feel very good about it.
And I know you don't feel good about it either.
It's not, this is not what we thought the golden age was going to be.
This is not certainly any different than it was the first term.
alex jones
We got to go to break.
I want to come back and then look at the angles of this because we know Epstein was 100% Mossad.
We know Israel targets president, Smona Kalewinski, all that.
Clearly, there have been some deals made behind the scenes.
The question is, who's blackmailing who?
We'll be right back.
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Nick Fuente has just gone to Mar-Lago and had dinner with Trump.
And of course, I've talked to Trump quite a bit over the years, and I got invited up to the White House three months ago and just kind of let it slip and didn't do it.
And I got invited to Mar-Lago, didn't go at an event honoring Flynn where Trump wanted to meet with me.
And I don't say that the name drop, I strategically try to stay away from DC and all those groups because I'm totally independent.
And also every time I get around Trump, the deep state just goes completely insane.
And it's not like I'm scared of the deep state, but if there's no reason to do it just to go have dinner and have somebody tell you, you're great, then what is the point of it?
Because whenever I get around Trump and whenever I'm giving him information, they go nuts.
And again, if there's no point to it, I can still get the information anyways.
I just try to stay away from it.
You know, the swamp is not a place I like to hang out.
And you've seen the fun I've had there on J6 and trying to put us all in prison and Owen in prison and the rest of it.
But the reason I tell that story, before go back to Nick, is I have influenced Trump a great deal on Aaron Hoff.
And when you saw those articles in 2017, 2018 that the chief of staff's jobs keeping him away from Alex Jones and InfoWars, pull that up and type it in.
I would tell him stuff and he'd say, well, send me a report on that.
And I started actually having like law firms do it for me.
So it's all vetted and everything.
And they went, the system went insane.
And I was giving him maps of who worked for Soros and who to kick out of the White House.
They had 60-minute shows about it, how I was so mean and got Fiona Hill fired.
So I know Trump wants to save the country.
The policies, what he's doing on almost every front is so good.
And then I see something like this.
And I just want people to know, I don't get up here and do a controversial show for clickbait just because it's popular.
Okay.
I need Trump to succeed.
I want to save the country.
I want to dislodge the deep state.
It's literally hunting me.
Okay.
So the hunted has become the hunted, as Trump said.
Well, so this is very personal for me and the country and all of you.
And we really, I normally things are very cut and dry for me, Nick.
But if he doesn't get his economic deals through, if we don't secure the border and deport the illegals, if we don't reboot America, if we don't stop these wars, you can see the future.
It's very dystopian.
So I paradoxically see how good he's doing.
And then I see something like this that it was designed to blow up in his face.
Did it come out of his mind?
Where did it come from?
And again, the big question we left off with, the only thing that's logical here is we know the file's there.
We know it's the information.
It's how the deep state was blackmailing.
He gets control of that.
Now he can control them.
But then they're going to say, okay, we'll stop attacking you, but you've got to come out and say it's over so that you're part of it now.
You've got to join the cover-up.
And so we know we've got a deal.
That's the spit in the hand.
Make the handshake.
And then you see, I think the deal was made in the last month or two, the acceleration of Israel and Netanyahu and them fawning on each other.
Trump saying, you're the greatest man living in the world.
That's what King George III said about George Washington.
Netanyahu fawning, oh, peace prize, you're the greatest ever.
And yeah, we want to blow up Iran again.
And so it's not just you're feeling, you're thinking you think this is going on.
I mean, it's overwhelmingly obvious that some backroom deals have been made.
And Trump made it clear he told them to kill the investigation.
That's why he came out and defended the FBI and defended them.
And you just saw him today, you know, boom, say, I want this shut down.
And so by extension, if we don't criticize it and tell the truth, we are now part of it.
And I've never sold out for anybody.
I'm not selling out for this.
But at the same time, I got to gauge it and say, I'm going to cover it a lot, but I'm also not going to probably make my main focus.
I'm going to wait and see what unfolds here.
But it's not me or Nick Fuentez.
Even people that worship Trump like Cat Turd were freaked out and blown away by this.
And so it's such an unmitigated disaster PR wise.
I just, it's, you've got the floor.
What do you think is really going on here and who's blackmailing who?
nick fuentes
Well, I think he's just pushed it to the limit.
You know, I think that coming into this term, he had so much goodwill and such a mandate.
It was such a miraculous story between getting shot in the head and getting up and yelling, fight, fight, fight, winning this election after getting charged and convicted and put through the ringer.
It's like the most remarkable comeback ever in the history of the United States, without a question.
But in the past few weeks, and we touched on this a little bit in the last part, he goes on True Social and says, actually, America first means a lot of things and it can mean bombing Iran.
And that's pushing it.
I mean, bombing Iran is like synonymous with the neocons.
That's their wet dream for 20 years.
That's what they've always wanted.
He says, actually, and it gets better.
It's not just we're going to bomb Iran reluctantly or, you know, we've been forced into it.
No, that's America first, actually, to bomb Iran.
We were always for that.
That has always been America first.
Then in just the past week, it's this amnesty.
It's not an amnesty.
It's a work program.
We're not going to give them an amnesty.
We're just going to let them stay in the country and work.
And then before we even had time to digest that one, because that was just a couple of days ago.
That statement is from today.
It was Thursday after the Big Beautiful bill passed that they came out and said, we're going to do something for these illegal immigrants working on the farms.
Before we even had time to digest that latest statement about how the radical right will be disappointed, but they'll live with it.
Then we get this Epstein thing.
And it's Like you said, it is so far beyond the pale.
Even the biggest Trump cultists, and I don't use that word in a pejorative, you know, I think a cult can be a good thing.
Actually, I think Trump and his influence has been positive in some respects.
I agree.
It's not all bad.
I'm with you.
I agree with some of the things he's done, like close the border, bring illegal immigration to the forefront, political correctness, all that kind of stuff.
There's some good things, but now even the Trump cult, even the most loyal, die-hard followers that will ride for and defend everything and find excuses and apologism, they cannot stand by somebody saying, let's just not talk about Epstein.
There's nothing there.
Case closed.
And so I think they're blackmailing him.
I think they have something on him, potentially, probably.
On some level, though, it is all speculative.
We don't know.
We can't know precisely what's going on.
Suffice to say, we know they're lying.
We know they're lying.
We know Jeffrey Epstein is intelligence.
That's factual.
They knew that in 2008.
They know that now.
It's just obvious.
The conspicuousness of how he raised his fortune, the people that he rolled with, the sex trafficking, the surveillance, it's so painfully obvious.
He was intelligence.
He was running a blackmail ring.
We know that too.
We also know if he's sex trafficking, if there's a blackmail ring and it's for intelligence, then we necessarily know that there must be clients.
How can you be a sex trafficker without clients?
Who are you trafficking the sex for then?
It just doesn't even make any sense.
And he got charged with this not once, but twice.
So everybody knows for a fact.
These are the facts about the Epstein case.
And we all witnessed Pam Bonnie come out in this memo yesterday and deny all of it and say, it's like you said on Twitter, which was genius.
What are they going to say next?
Jeffrey Epstein never existed.
Epstein wasn't real.
I mean, they're literally telling us, don't believe your lying eyes.
It's not real.
And this is one of those mask off moments where you have to choose, are you going to support Trump or deny reality?
Are you going to support Trump or side with the most disgusting pervert who's like at the epicenter of political corruption in America?
This is minors being trafficked for sex for blackmail.
So a foreign government can influence our politicians.
It's the sickest, dirtiest business, the sickest, dirtiest corruption.
And Trump is burying it.
And this was my biggest concern going into this second term is that Trump, because he is so powerful, because he's such a powerful figure in the American imagination, such an icon, he will act either knowingly or unknowingly as a Trojan horse.
This is why in some respects, I never told anybody to vote for Kamala, and I didn't either.
I think she would have been a disaster in her own special way.
But I said, in some ways, this makes her less dangerous in a certain sense, because if she did the things that Trump is doing now, nobody would stomach it.
If she buried the Epstein files, there'd be a riot in the streets.
If she bombed Iran, every conservative would be speaking out and screaming in opposition, except for maybe Mark Levin.
If she said, we're going to give an amnesty for the farm workers, which by the way, that's a Biden program.
Biden was going to do that.
If she did it, nobody would be defending it.
But because it's Trump, because it's him, there's going to be a major section of the right wing of the disaffected white working class that's going to find every excuse to say, it's all part of the plan.
Here's why it's actually a good thing.
You know, TikTok, we just have to wait a few more years.
And then, you know, Guatemala Bay, QAnon is going to be lining up James Coney and, you know, all these other people.
So in some sense, there's a special danger with Trump, which is, and I said this at the beginning of the year, it's this exuberance.
He really came in in the second term.
And I think maybe that's what it is, thinking he could get away with anything, thinking, and you can almost empathize with that mindset.
If you survived what he survived, if you've been through what he's been through in the past 10 years, you would think I'm Napoleon.
I'm crowning myself.
Like I'm untouchable.
And we're in, it's July.
We're halfway through the first year.
And he's losing even his most, as you said, he's even lost captured.
Even Caturd has found some criticism for Trump.
If you've lost captured, you've lost the plot.
Like it's over.
alex jones
Let me get excellent points here.
So let me roll this out.
If you pull back from this, look at Virginia Duffrey.
She says they're coming to kill me.
If I die, I didn't commit suicide.
And then she's dead a few months ago.
Some of the other women have gotten killed the last few months.
You see all the loose ends getting tied up for Prince Andrew.
And the UK is famously run by pedophile rings, even more so than Israel.
That's a strong junior partner in it.
And the CIA has been involved as well.
But it's well known, even in mainline history and studies of intelligence, PhD level, that the UK is run by pedophile networks.
Israel's heavily using that for control.
You have the U.S. attorney saying Epstein was intelligence.
I mean, look at this, because Lane Maxwell, a little black book to remain secret in court deal.
The judge made the black book secret, but then, and of course, that was Maureen Comey, Comey's daughter, running the cover up there, just like they just did the P. Diddy.
And through that case, it's all getting tied up, loose ends right now.
And MTG's keeping her soul.
She's pointing out that how can Ghislaine be convicted of human trafficking?
But there was no human trafficking.
There was no blackmail.
He acted alone and he killed himself.
I mean, this is beyond a slap in the face.
So I want you to respond to that.
And then Elon Musk has put out another tweet.
It was on X. It was Nick earlier saying he would expect that we're going to be seeing Elon come back on the scene now after months ago saying, hey, I'm going to drop this bomb right here.
The reason you're not going to get any of the files is because Trump sent them.
And now everyone's like, no, that's not true.
They say they have them.
They sent them out to the FBI.
And now, nope, there's nothing.
It's all gone.
Don't talk about it.
Don't ask questions.
Elon Musk: How can people be expected to have faith in Trump if he won't release the Epstein files?
Well, now the mind control will be: well, there are no files.
They just told us there aren't.
And then the other spin is, oh, no, the deep state destroyed them before.
Maybe they destroyed a bunch of them, but we know the FBI had them.
We know they raided New York four months ago to get them.
We know she said in all these interviews they had them.
And then they start slowly putting it out a few months ago on, you know, Rogan with Patel.
And Rogan didn't even buy it as well.
He's like, no, no, you trust me, Joe.
If there was anything, I'd tell you, there's nothing.
There's nothing.
Watch the watch.
There's nothing, Joe.
There's nothing going on.
Go ahead, Nick Fuentes.
nick fuentes
Well, and it's just like this is going to become one of those famous pieces of the puzzle that brings down the conspiracy theory.
This is like the JFK magic bullet and the lone gunman.
You know, Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone and the bullet made seven different exit and entry wounds and it had this miraculous pathway or like the passport of the 9-11 hijacker that was recovered on the ground of New York City.
alex jones
Two were found the next day.
Sorry, go ahead.
nick fuentes
Right, exactly.
Yeah, they said, how do we identify the hijackers in 9-11?
Well, as the plane crashed into the tower, their passports magically fell from, you know, because the plane exploded, the passports flew out like a cartoon and then gently floated down to the floor where someone recovered them on the ground amidst the rubble and said, I got it.
I'm going to turn this over to the FBI.
This must be the hijacker.
And now we have Epstein killed himself.
He was not running a blackmail ring.
He was not intelligence.
And what's so crushing about this, and Elon is really getting to the heart of the matter.
We just said this literally moments ago.
If you can't trust Trump on this, how can you trust Trump and his plan on anything?
And what's so crushing, and I said this last year, this is such an important part of it, but it's something that totally I think people missed maybe when I was criticizing Trump heavily last year.
The proposition of Trumpism initially in the beginning in 2015, when he came down the escalator, it wasn't just that he was going to build a border wall.
It wasn't just that he was going to end the endless wars.
It wasn't just that he was going to protect the jobs.
A lot of people had said that before.
Other politicians had said that before.
The proposition of Trump, what was so special is he said, I'm so rich, I'm going to be a self-funder.
And that means because I'm rich, I'm not vulnerable to corruption.
He said, I'm invulnerable.
I'm not going to take super PAC money.
I cannot be bribed.
I cannot be bought.
I'm a billionaire.
I'm so rich.
I'm a self-funder.
He said, so because of that, because I'm immune from those pressures, I will never be a politician.
You won't get carefully crafted lies.
You won't get cover-ups.
You won't get corruption.
I'm going to deliver a real victory.
And I said last year, this is what's so heartbreaking.
We all understand that in politics, you got to make compromises.
Politics is a tough reality.
We have to be pragmatic.
I think everybody understands that on some level.
But what was promised in 16 was something fresh, something different, a break from the past, not just a victory for conservatives or the Republicans, but a victory for Americans, something truly unique and different, something that actually breaks the system and the corruption that controls it.
And this is like the death of that idea.
This is like the final nail in the coffin.
It's like, wow.
So you really are just like the rest of them.
This is your JFK, Lyndon Johnson.
This is your 9-11, George Bush.
This is your Benghazi, Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton.
The Jeffrey Epstein, you own this.
You live in this.
This is your bed.
You've made it.
You lay in this.
You are just like the rest of them.
And it's hard to state now, but I think this is going to have ramifications.
This is like the complete loss of that mythological faith that people have in Trump.
And it's like, yes, if he doesn't release these files and actually in turn covers it up with this bald faced, it's almost, well, it is.
It's an insulting lie.
That really gets to the heart of it.
It's like you said, talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
Talk about blowing your head off with a shotgun to come out and say he wasn't blackmailing anybody.
He didn't have a client list.
It's so insane.
It cannot be believed.
No sensible person would say that.
And he stands by them.
He goes in this press conference and says, let's just stop talking about it.
The FBI is back to the basics, chasing bad guys.
He's now lying to the faces of his supporters.
The loss of trust and confidence and faith.
It's hard to overstate how severe that is.
And I don't know how many people are going to go with this.
I don't know what that's going to mean for a lot of people.
But for people like you and I that have really been here from the beginning and in different ways, you obviously interviewed him and that was unbelievably massive.
And I was maybe that generation of young people that came of age during that election, deeply influenced.
I'm like the archetypal, you know, Gen Z online guy of the Trump world.
For the two of us to be following it from Pizzagate and all that stuff from the beginning through to this tragic and disappointing conclusion, it's nothing other than heartbreaking.
And it just vindicates, you know, look, like we said in the start, we want Trump to succeed.
This is not coming from a Trump derangement syndrome, looking at the glass as half empty, never being satisfied, not taking the win.
It's such a stark, offensive lie.
The loss of faith, it's almost irreparable.
And people are saying, well, yeah, go ahead.
alex jones
No, no, that was my exact next question.
I'm still going to support the good he's doing, but seeing something this big happen, I just have an instinctual, but also political, really bad feeling that this is the start of a bunch more stuff like this.
And we are having a political realignment.
Republicans are the blue-collar party now.
Record numbers, blacks, Hispanics.
I mean, the country's getting proud of itself again.
And so that's why it's paradoxical for me.
And again, as I said yesterday, I said if he comes out and says no, I want the investigation to continue, then that just means they've been compromised at the DOJ.
And it's like what we saw before because I know the inside baseball.
People were not doing what he said in his first term, most of them.
Now he's got a good crew.
You even see the press secretary the first time ever not wearing her cross and looking super depressed because she could go tell the truth before and feel good.
He's got a lot of really good people around him.
This isn't a legion of crooks.
Now, there's some bad ones in there, but nothing, you know, like the Democrats or what he had the first headmen, where it's like 90% bad.
Now it's like 80% good, I would say.
And so it's just a horrifying sinking feeling of what do you think he's going to start going back on even more now that he's done this?
And you said something very, very astute that I'm going to respond to.
I'm writing a note, but I want to do it in the next hour with this about 30 minutes of the next hour.
When you said it seems like it's the madness of King Lear, or that was my term, megalomania, power trip, not giving an F, a feeling of invincibility.
I will tell people inside baseball.
Let me start the next hour, but please respond back to what I just said about, do you have a feeling we're about to see a lot more betrayal?
nick fuentes
I do.
I do, because I think that he's acting without limit.
He's clearly acting without any kind of constraints.
You know, and there was this idea that because he doesn't have to run for another term, because he's a lame duck, that he could really deliver the revenge.
You know, he doesn't have to care about reelection.
So he could really put the screws in the deep state.
That was kind of how it was sold.
But of course, the flip side of that coin is he doesn't have to worry about reelection.
So he can betray the voters.
He can do anything.
It does not matter.
He's not seeking reelection.
At the end, he can pardon himself.
In a certain sense, he's invincible.
And, you know, he's broken the compact with the voters on no new wars.
He crossed that red line already.
He's broken the compact on mass deportations.
It isn't happening.
It's not going to happen.
Now he's broken the compact on Epstein.
If he's willing and able to do this, it truly shows he's acting without any limitation.
And I like what you say, this sinking feeling.
There is this sense of we're now trapped with him.
It's like you're not locked in here with, I'm not locked in here with you.
You're locked in here with me.
Now we're locked in here with this.
And, you know, to your point, we'll touch on this later.
Is this now this vengeful madman?
Is he now angry with the base?
Does he now hate us?
If we say to Trump, we didn't vote for a war with Iran.
We didn't vote for a so-called work program for illegal immigrants on farms.
We didn't vote for Bering the Epstein story.
Is he now going to turn his ire on us?
Is this like a game of thrones, burn them all?
Now we're going to be destroyed?
I hate to say it, but this is what I said a year ago.
This is what I said was going to happen.
And so there is this terrifying reality.
And I said, we don't know.
We can only speculate.
There's this question, who exactly are we dealing with?
Who is this person?
Who is Trump?
He's a sort of strange, eccentric figure.
He's never really had a very profound testimony about his faith in God or Christ.
Just who is this person that we're dealing with?
Now we sort of realize what we've done here.
Maybe this, we've let in a dragon, whereas the deep state was ineffective in some ways and kind of run by incompetence.
Now we've let in Peter Thiel, Trump.
We've let in J.D. Vance.
These like, and I know you like Vance.
I view them as sort of sociopathic.
It's like, what is this element?
It's like this very strange and evil element that we're now seeing going completely mask off.
And I don't like any of it.
I feel a deep sense of being disconcerted at this point.
alex jones
Stay there.
I'm not going to go as far as you, but unfortunately, I was watching you a year ago say all this and now it's coming true and I'm getting a sinking feeling.
But I'm crossing my fingers and saying a prayer.
You're wrong about what's coming next.
And I'll explain why when we come back.
I'll just go to break.
Nick Fuentez.
You can find him on X, find him on Rumble, find him everywhere.
Does his nightly show, America First.
This is bad.
Because on one side, we got Trump starting to go the wrong direction.
And then we got the Democrats that literally want to hang me by my toes.
So having integrity is tough sometimes, folks, but I'm just going to tell the truth no matter what and just pray this is some weird aberration.
He's made some backroom deal for them to back off or it was so horrible they can't bring it out because it's former presidents or something.
I'm sure that's what it is.
But I just can't then say, okay, it's okay to lie to us when it's so demonstrated to be a lie.
I mean, my good, could you tell us a little bit better lie or maybe not, you know, continue to just say, shut up?
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Go out.
He immediately goes out and engages and takes over all these British ships to three times the size, just ramming straight into them.
Well, that's what I want to do.
I only want the fastest ships.
I want to go directly into action.
I want to go 24 hours a day.
I want reporters all over the country.
unidentified
I want to be 50 times stronger against the enemy.
alex jones
I want 50 times the audience.
I want victory.
You think what we've done to the enemy's been effective so far?
It's nothing.
I have not yet begun to fight.
So, support yourself.
Support us.
Do it.
Or be conscious that you didn't fight when the time was right.
You hesitated.
You took this as another entertainment menu.
Just some other show.
Just more talk.
This ain't talk.
This is the targeting coordinates to take down the enemy.
This is the Death Star plans.
This is Sting the Goblin Slayer.
They hate this blade.
This operation is a sword that is plunged politically, culturally, spiritually into the hearts of our enemies over and over and over again.
They hate it.
It's a standard of their defeat.
It's a symbol of their weakness.
That's what we're doing here.
This is serious business.
So I'm coming to you, asking you to continue to commission us in this fight.
We've already delivered you more victories against the enemy than any other media operation in the world.
And I'm asking you again for all of our collective futures to come to our aid now more and take your fight to the 110% level.
Tell the truth.
Be accurate.
Stand against evil.
Have courage.
Until it's not even having courage.
It's what you are.
unidentified
It's what you are.
alex jones
There's Trump coming down the golden escalator nine and a half years ago.
I immediately endorsed him.
And I've seen the real fear by the establishment, but I think what Nick was saying is, is this just an old rotting establishment being pushed out by a leaner, meaner, more serious establishment?
I'll give my absolute gut level, soul level take at six after, but I want to give you a few minutes because you got cut off there, Nick.
But we got four minutes left in the segment.
Go ahead, Nick, Fuentes.
nick fuentes
Yeah, so I mean, something that's important to keep in mind about Epstein, which I wanted to add actually, if we know that Epstein is involved with Israeli intelligence, obviously we've been over some of the facts already today.
And if you know that Epstein had this thick Rolodex of royal family members, Wall Street, Hollywood people, members of the government, if you know that he was convicted of sex trafficking, procuring minors for the purpose of sex trafficking, that he had cameras and microphones all over his apartment for the purpose of filming the sex with minors and the people that were on his flight logs and these powerful people he was hanging out with, you know that this was blackmail.
This is acquiring sexual dirt on powerful people for the purpose of controlling them.
But once you begin to understand the true nature of it, you really understand what's going on here.
A lot of people say these things like Epstein didn't kill himself.
Of course, people reject the pronouncement now by the Department of Justice that there is no clientless, that there is no blackmail ring, there is no sex trafficking or anything like that.
The case is closed.
You have to ask the question, if that's what was happening, who was it for?
Someone put him up to this.
How did he have access to the capital?
How did he have access to the billion dollars, to the celebrities, to the government ministers, and so on?
Well, we also touched on that.
He was involved with Les Wexner, the Jewish billionaire from Ohio, from the mega group.
He ran in a circle of dozens, arguably over 100 Jewish billionaires, people that support pro-Jewish causes like Jewish education, Jewish activism, and pro-Israel causes.
Then it's safe to assume, also given his main accomplice, Jelaine Maxwell, her father was working for the Mossad, he's in bed with Israeli intelligence.
Okay, so he's running a blackmail ring for an intelligence agency, most likely an Israeli intelligence agency.
Well, what's the purpose of running the blackmail ring for the Israeli intelligence agency?
Well, obviously, we have to then figure out what does Israel want?
The entire purpose of the blackmail ring is to have dirt on American politicians, celebrities, financiers, so that Israel can control them.
For what purpose?
Well, let's just use our imaginations.
What has Israel wanted for the past 25 years?
What have they been talking about at the United Nations General Assembly?
What have they been saying in congressional testimony, in American media like Fox News and elsewhere, joint sessions of Congress and major addresses?
They've been saying for 25 years and even longer, actually, we want regime change in Iran.
They've been saying Iran is two weeks away from a bomb.
They're a month away from a bomb.
They've been saying it for 30 years.
And at the same time that they're talking about Iran as the bomb and that's why we need to go to war, they're saying that's not enough.
We need to actually regime change.
We need to wipe out the Iranian regime.
They're the head of a snake that's spreading its tentacles, not to mix animal metaphors, but they're spreading their influence all over the region.
That is the final operation.
That's the final target.
We got to go for Iran.
So go figure.
Trump is most likely in the Epstein files.
He's on the flight logs.
He's in videos With Epstein.
Epstein said they were best friends.
Epstein dies in Trump's custody.
Trump comes back into power.
There's this insinuation that Trump is named in the files by Elon Musk, who says this when he has a black eye.
He's in the black eye club.
Week later, we get the strikes on Iran.
And when they're finished, case closed.
The Epstein files are done forever.
They're going into the archives.
Use your imagination, people.
It's not difficult to figure out.
I think it's very cut and dry what just happened here.
And it has everything to do with what we've actually been talking about for the past several weeks with what's happening in the Middle East.
What I've been talking about for years.
alex jones
We've got to go to break, but I'm going to come back and give you my comments on this straight ahead.
But I agree with you.
All right.
I've told this story hundreds of times because it's true.
And everybody that was listening then heard it.
And the archives are there public.
9-11, I go on air.
There's bombs in the buildings.
They blow up Building 7.
They say on national TV, we're going to blow up Building 7, the CIA, FBI headquarters.
But back then, you'd have Internet Archives.
So if you didn't tape it, nobody saw it.
And I could still have the clip in like a DVD I sold, but still people made copies.
So maybe a few million people saw that.
And, you know, I'd get death threat calls in the office by people with voice changers, like in 2002, you better stop saying Building 7 or we're going to kill you and your family.
You know, I mean, this is stuff I've done, okay?
Stuff I've gone through.
And I went from, but of course then for some reason they didn't think, three or four years later, all of a sudden, all the major news channels, because they got enough bandwidth, archived the 9-11, BBC, CNN, all them blowing up Building 7.
Everybody's like, oh my God, it's true.
So the reason I tell that story is I had something like 200 radio stations.
And that was talk radio's heyday.
Okay.
A bunch of them were 50,000 watt stations.
Okay.
So I was selling DVDs and t-shirts, but we were bringing in all of a sudden, you know, $10 million a year or whatever, gross.
And so now I can hire a crew and get buildings and start stuff and do all this.
And I'm putting the money into that.
Not saying I didn't buy a nicer car, but I don't care about things.
9-11 happens.
I go from 200 stations to about 40 stations or something like that.
And they all call the first week.
They go, we love you.
We're getting top ratings.
You know, I already had Clear Channel trying to hire me.
All of it.
I was going to be the new Rush Limbaugh.
I was like 30 years old.
And in the next month, 70 plus percent of the stations dumped me.
So I don't get mad at people when they love to say Jones has controlled opposition or, you know, all these Johnny come lately, love do that to feel powerful and feel like only they're good.
It upsets me because you need to stop thinking that good doesn't exist in the world.
Remember, the devil's biggest trick is not that he doesn't exist.
That's his second biggest.
In my view, it's that good doesn't exist.
I am for real and I have the track record and I don't need to prove that to people.
I need people to understand when you sit around and say everybody's controlled, you are not giving people hope.
But those of us that aren't controlled have to tell the truth, even though it goes against our own self-interest.
And I'm doing that right now.
Ladies and gentlemen, the Democrats have had, we now know, seven grand juries open on me.
I had to pay millions of dollars in the last six, seven years.
And the lawyers are always like, don't talk about the news.
We'll go show the grand jury and they won't bill you.
D.C., New York, Texas, they indicted me in D.C., but then the attorney general killed it because he thought it was too political.
Merritt Darlin knew that was too far for January 6th.
The reason I'm telling my own story, I'm going to go back to Nick here, because I appreciate his time, is that the Democrats are literally hunting me and my family, suing my parents.
They've got my parents almost bankrupt, claiming that I had money with them, which has all been disproven.
So I know that if I sit there and play ball, okay, that they'll, you know, and at this point, so this is even bigger than me losing almost all my radio stations, to tell the truth.
I couldn't even, it wasn't even a thought.
I couldn't help it.
Okay, fine, turn me off.
I'm not going to shut up.
I'll watch you blow the damn buildings up.
And we have the same prime minister in Israel, them with his fingerprints all over with the neocons here.
And I said that then, and I said it the whole time, but I never tried to just create a fight with certain groups or make it all about that.
I thought expose policies of evil.
That get a big tent with everybody.
And that's how we'll do this.
And we have done that to a great extent and built the movement of populism where people are winning all over the world and exposing globalism.
And then Trump rides in on that.
He is doing a lot of good.
So it's very paradoxical.
So my literal freedom and my life is bet on Trump.
But there's things bigger than your life and bigger than your parents.
You know, if they need to go move into the countryside of a small house, they're ready.
They're fine.
But that's where I'm at.
And so I am the epitome of integrity.
I have nothing but the track record of it.
And it's not about my defense.
I'm telling you how personal this is for me.
I am having my guts ripped out right now.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
So, so this isn't about a popularity contest like we're in junior high and which, which clique are we in?
Are we in the Democrat clique or the Republican clique?
The Democrats are open pedophiles, open devil worshipers, openly hate this country.
And so for me, I'll just ask you, Nick, and I'm going to shut up.
It's very paradoxical for me because then I don't sit there and say, maybe I'll just wait and see what Trump does and back off of this because then I look at the Democrats who are manifestly super evil and out of control.
We know they're as bad as it gets.
And so I have this first time in my life, this lesser two evils thing, which I know is the road to hell, where I start going, am I making the right decision going ape on Trump?
But his constituents are.
So I just, it's so horrible.
Nick Floytes, sorry, I'm ranting.
nick fuentes
I agree with you.
And, you know, here's the thing about the right wing.
I actually share the same mentality that you do about the left.
Obviously, the left is beyond the pale.
They're totally immoral.
They're totally against God.
They're totally against America.
They want to drown the country in refugees.
They want to overturn every traditional institution.
It almost goes without saying.
I almost find it passe to go after the left because I feel like if you're not anti-Democrat at the minimum or anti-left, you're just out to lunch.
And that's why it's so important that we get the right wing right.
Because if the left is hegemonic, if they run all the institutions, if they run the State Department and Hollywood and Wall Street and ESG and everything like that, then the opposition, the organized opposition, which is the Republican Party, the so-called conservative movement, that's the vehicle to resist the left.
That's the vehicle.
At least that's kind of the common thinking.
If we're against the left, then that makes us on the so-called organized right, the organized opposition.
But what we find is that the organized opposition to the left, the GOP, Fox News, all these other institutions, they are totally corrupt.
And it seems that in many ways, they are part of the same system as the left.
They're just like a different version of the left.
And so I've always thought then the battle is even more granular.
We're fighting the left inside the right.
You have the left and the so-called right, the Democrats and Republicans.
But within the right, you have the so-called establishment, which is Rupert Murdoch, which is the big money, which is the Israel lobby, all this kind of stuff.
And then you have the citizen journalists.
You have people like yourself.
You have people like me.
You have authentic real Americans.
Their parents weren't in the CIA.
We're not, you know, mobbed up with these different foreign intelligence agencies.
And it's incumbent on us to kind of win this battle, take over the vehicle of opposition to effectively resist the right wing.
And I think that maybe you're in agreement with this.
You're not a George W. Bush guy.
Many Trump supporters weren't either.
As a matter of fact, many Trump supporters were Obama people that were disappointed.
alex jones
I've never been a George W. Bush guy or a Herbert Walker-Bush guy.
nick fuentes
Right.
Well, and I didn't say it in any kind of way.
I just meant, you know, you're not a card-carrying Republican.
You're a real populist.
You're more like a Patriot Party or America first guy than you are a Republican.
alex jones
You're a common sense, classic lesson values.
nick fuentes
Exactly.
And I think that you, like me and like many Obama voters and many other people, saw Trump not as a Republican, but as something independent, as something unique, as a true break from the dynasty of the Bush family or Marco Rubio, whose slogan was New American Century, if it could be even more on the nose, and the rest of them.
And Trump represented this opportunity of a hostile takeover of the GOP and of the right wing by the people.
It was like a populist overthrow.
Originally, it was Roger Ailes and Megan Kelly that tried to take him out.
It was the GOP and Reines Priebus that rigged the primary against him.
And so we thought, take over the GOP primary, take over the Republican Party, take over the White House, and finally we'll have won kind of these two related battles, which is defeat the opposition in America, defeat the establishment in our party.
And now that Trump has gone this far on these issues, that's really what makes it crushing is because, like you said, we have all had our share of the suffering and maybe you more than almost anybody with the lawsuits and the law affair against you and your family.
And certainly I've had a taste of that.
And many people, many people at Charlottesville at January 6th.
alex jones
You've had people in your house trying to kill you that go kill people and get killed by the cops.
unidentified
Yeah.
nick fuentes
Exactly.
alex jones
And no media coverage.
Here's the thing.
We're not victims.
We're under attack because we're fighting.
But it's not even in the news that they just attacked two ICE facilities and shot them up in Texas.
I mean, when a conservatives are under attack, you don't hear about it.
nick fuentes
Well, and it's skin in the game.
It means we're invested.
It means that we've lost something.
We've sacrificed something to do this because we care and we're in it for the right reasons.
And then for it to come full circle 10 years later with something symbolic like this.
And really after kind of selling out on a couple of the key issues like immigration and the war with Iran, you almost are left wondering, what was it all for?
And it's why it's important.
I actually agree with what you say.
And we talked about this the last time I was on.
You said the greatest trick the devil pulls is to convince you there's no good.
That's true because that's how they get people to despair.
That's how they get people to give in and say, well, if everybody else is giving in, if everybody else is giving up, what difference is one person going to make?
Why would I try and resist what is clearly irresistible evil, totally hegemonic?
And for Trump to go down like this, it's just devastating because he really is the champion of the movement, whether you like him, don't like him, agree with him, don't agree with him.
He's the most important figure in American politics in this decade and truly provided hope, I think, to millions of people that maybe counted America out or counted out our people, our civilization.
And so for him to do, like you said, a handshake deal, for him to compromise himself like this, symbolically, it's such a devastating blow.
It's even bigger, actually, in my opinion, than the policy things.
And, you know, he could reopen the investigation.
I don't even know if that would make much of a difference.
I'm a little bit scared of him at this point.
I'm scared of what's going on.
alex jones
Well, let's put the pieces together, Nick.
Let's put the pieces together.
I said yesterday when I first got on air, I said, no, this is Trump.
He told him to do it.
He'll probably come out to dinner tomorrow and defend Bongino and Patel.
He did exactly that and said, yeah, this is the right thing.
Move on.
Then he snapped the reporter, said, how dare you stand on the grave of dead kids, totally separate issue during a press conference and bring this up.
He's trying to send a message, shut up.
And he believes he's got so much grassroots support and so much power that he can do whatever he wants.
And for whatever reason, he wants to move on from this, whether he's using the black male file or whether it's being used on him.
Regardless, that's happening.
And then I predict, it's guaranteed, that now, like Shark's coming to blood in the water, he's going to be hounded now with this.
And I've talked to people very close to Trump who love him.
And they say, listen, he's not a megalomaniac now.
He always had a big ego.
Notice he doesn't even really respond to the press, doesn't get baited anymore.
He doesn't care.
He doesn't give an F. We've seen that in the headline.
They go, he really says that.
He says, every week can be our last to his staff.
Let's fight, fight, fight.
He's doing all these policies.
He's doing the best job he can with what he's had.
And that's what's so paradoxical.
So I'm not ready to say he's going down or we've lost Trump yet.
The point is, is, this is a violent veering into that territory with horror at this moment.
But I can tell you, what I've heard described about Trump is indescribable.
They say beyond ice water, he's very friendly and nice out in the public.
He is very aggressive and focused and has even more energy than he ever had behind the scenes.
And they say that it's scary.
And so, and look, I've been through a lot of pressure.
A lot of the people have.
I can tell you in life, you either buckle to pressure or you level up.
And when I've leveled up in the last year with a lot of prayer and exercise and focus and determination, it was always there.
I was never scared and was never even burnt out, but I made myself man up.
And it's not evil.
It's really the flesh because the Holy Spirit's there.
It's hard to describe, but it is something I've got to control now because when you decide to really fight and you get so confident and then so aggressive as a man, it becomes dangerous.
And I can feel the danger in me.
And I have to pray every day that the Holy Spirit control it because it's not the devil, but it's male berserker Viking energy is how I would describe it.
And that's what I think.
And I think the world sees that.
Like, here's what I'm going to ask you if that's a longer issue, but we see him at NATO now open bowing down.
Your daddy groveling.
They're hopping around like demons.
Netanyahu's never looked happier.
There's been some massive, not just with Israel, some new realignment, some new secret alliance.
And that's going to be the next few months and years.
What is it as it comes out?
But something big happened the last two months.
Nick Foyne says that's quite a lot to unpack.
nick fuentes
Yeah, it is a little strange because, of course, when he came in in 2017, he was resented by everybody in NATO.
But you know what?
It's a completely different world.
I mean, you actually do have to zoom out and take a look at the bigger picture.
When he came onto the scene, which was actually in 2015, when he started running in the primary, this was the world of Barack Obama, Angela Merkel, Francois Holland in France.
It was David Cameron in the United Kingdom.
Russia was in the G8.
I guess they had just been expelled in 2014, but they had been in the G8.
This was a completely different world.
You fast forward 10 years, all these people are gone.
Trudeau is gone.
Mario Draghi is gone.
David Cameron is gone.
All these people, Merkel, who is a fixture forever, is gone.
They've all been ejected.
In its place, you have Nigel Farage becoming a national figure in the UK.
You have in France, Maureen Le Pen is within spitting distance of the presidency.
They got to ban her.
In Germany, AFD is taking over.
In Italy, it's been one right-wing regime after the other.
In Canada, it was only because of Trump that they didn't elect a conservative.
So it's like, this is a world 10 years after Trump won, clearly transformed by Trump.
And what's more, if you recall in 2015, Trump really was pushing on NATO to remilitarize.
In many ways, Trump drove the conflict with Russia because it was Trump that pulled us out of the INF treaty and redeployed medium-range missiles into Eastern Europe, which Russia did not like.
It was Trump that gave lethal aid to Ukraine.
It was Trump that demanded that NATO increase their spending.
And the whole idea was that then we could leave Europe, handing it off to the Europeans, and then we could go and focus on China.
At that time, Trump had this idea that China is the real adversary, not Russia, not even necessarily Iraq, where we still were, or Assad, who was still in power at that time, but China.
And it seems that 10 years later, there is this consensus that is formed.
Biden continued the tariffs that Trump implemented.
He actually expanded upon them on the other side with the subsidies and the Inflation Reduction Act and in the infrastructure law.
And then the Europeans also agreed too.
The Europeans are now increasing their spending, preparing for a war in the United Kingdom, talking about, you know, we're going to be fighting Russia on our soil.
And of course, the foreign policy establishment in D.C., they're all 100% behind defending Taiwan and, you know, fortifying that island chain.
So it does seem that Trump has recapitulated the establishment in a weird way.
It's almost like he fortified the old regime, whereas the old regime was dying and going down, and clearly America was in decline and in retreat.
It's like Trump kind of led America to re-fortify NATO and now the Quad in the Pacific.
And now all the militaries are bigger.
NATO has a much bigger military.
The United States has a trillion dollar defense budget.
Now there is all this confidence in the government, whereas before there wasn't.
Now everybody has confidence in the regime.
So you almost have to reflect on Trumpism and say in some ways it was successful, but for whom?
Was it successful for the base, for the white working class?
We've gotten destroyed by the COVID stimulus and the quantitative easing and the supply chain disruptions.
We've gotten destroyed by 10 million illegals under Biden.
There's this war with Russia.
If anything, it seems like it was a giant win for Silicon Valley.
It was a giant win for Wall Street.
It was a giant win for many of the institutions that I think before were kind of introducing the one big one too, warp speed.
And the vaccine.
That's right.
And Pfizer, exactly right.
mRNA.
Yeah, I do.
I forget about that all the time, but you were on that before anybody else.
No, no, I wasn't.
alex jones
It wasn't like I got you.
I was another, didn't have pleasure to bring that one up.
Because the question is, are we being pimped?
And are we, and look, Trump does love America.
He's doing a lot of good policies.
The one thing, and I'm not trying to just have a fight with you, but they killed border enforcement the last four and a half years.
He has scaled up.
They are going after a lot of people.
They are getting the gangbangers.
They are changing the rules, stopping the remittances.
So I think overall criticisms by some of the super or radical right wing that I love too, talk about you, obviously, you're the archetype of that.
And I don't like all these skilled visa things replacing Americans and stuff.
And Trump's been too friendly to that, but he always said he was going to do that.
So I don't really think that's a broken promise.
And I really think he's trying to secure the sovereignty of the country.
You see, Stephen Miller, you know, what they're saying, this is the existential threat, you know, you know, is this invasion.
So in that area, why do you think that's a betrayal?
I don't really see it.
nick fuentes
Well, in 2016, his policy was against the H-1Bs.
He did change that in 2024.
You're right.
As far as the H-1AV, because that's really what it's going to be.
They're saying we're going to have mass deportations, but it's going to be for criminals, and it's not going to be for these illegal immigrant laborers on farms, in hospitality, in restaurants, construction sites.
The reason it's a betrayal is because I think there was this deliberate deception, which was to portray the policy as sweeping enforcement.
In other words, 10 million illegals came in under Biden.
There might be 30 to 40, maybe 50 million illegals in the country.
People want all of them gone.
We want all the illegal immigrants out of the country, at least the 10 million that came in under Biden.
And so when you had at the Republican convention, people are holding up mass deportation signs.
People are having in their minds sweeps, sweeping enforcement.
We're going to pick up anybody that's illegal and take them out of the country.
And even though they kind of had their fingers crossed back then, now they're saying, well, it comes with a caveat, strategic mass deportations.
We're going to strategically not deport the illegal immigrant farm labor.
We're only going to deport the criminals.
And that's actually what you would call targeted enforcement.
That's not sweeping.
That's targeted.
That's not massive.
That's selective.
And people kind of hate that.
And this was always the deal.
This was the 86 Reagan deal.
This was compassionate conservatism on the majority.
alex jones
You're right overall that he's not doing exactly what he said.
But I think, well, here's the deal.
I know you know a lot, but if you go to South Texas, there's nothing, it's Hispanic Americans that own the farms, and then it's the middle of nowhere, and the Mexicans come across and do it, and they're really nice, and they've been doing it for generations.
They're great farmers.
They go back.
There's nobody down there to do that.
I mean, so in areas like that, I mean, it's part of the culture.
I mean, after all, the Mexicans have been down there since before this was Texas.
And my thing is, I don't want to wave Mexican flags and screw America and everything, but I love the Mexicans that are Americans and totally behind to the culture.
But those folks down there want to live in Mexico.
So I think that's a finer point there.
But then it goes into hospitality.
I get what you're saying.
nick fuentes
Well, and listen, I'm a reasonable person.
I recognize we're probably not going to deport 50 million people.
I get that.
And if you want to leave some, I guess that makes sense.
But they lied.
They lied about it.
They said we're going to do mass deportations.
Everybody's going to go.
And then they didn't.
He said, we're going to do this BBB.
We're going to give $150 billion for ICE and for customs and border in the big, beautiful bill.
And then, and that was like a bait and switch.
They said, we're going to do a million deportations per year.
And then the second it was passed, he came out and said, yeah, but we're going to take care of the farmers.
We're going to do H1A visas.
We're going to do a work program or something.
They just, they lied last year.
They lied to pass the bill.
They just lied.
And, you know, maybe that would have been a debate.
And I think it's a legitimate debate.
What you're saying is I'm not going to be able to do it.
alex jones
I'm going to finish this point and then ask you about Iran.
Anything else you want?
Just do 10 more minutes with us.
You've been very nice.
Nick Fuentez, find him on Exit.
Nick Jay Fuentez, find him on Rumble.
Nick Jay Fuentez.
And I usually watch your show when it's not live in the morning.
What time is your show on live?
nick fuentes
I say 8 o'clock, but really like 9 o'clock Central.
alex jones
9 o'clock Central, America First and Nick Fuentez.
We'll be right back on the other side.
Thank you.
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Well, I'll tell you a promise kept by Trump on the border.
96% reduction.
He got a 94% in his first term for the last couple of years.
They have really clamped down.
They have commandeered out of all these other federal agencies, the federal marshals, the ATF, the postal inspectors.
They're out there.
I've seen them out here by the office pulling illegals over.
They're wearing the mask and they got the state police with them and they're loading them in vans.
And I know the folks down at the jail, they say under Biden, it stopped.
Buses never came to get the illegals being arrested for all sorts of armed robbery, drunk driving, and name it.
Now there's one or two buses every morning picking up the illegal aliens.
So, and a lot of listeners go, wait, you criticize Trump and you say nice things.
That's how I report.
Okay.
I lay out what I'm seeing, what I think, and you decide i'm not ready to say it's over with trump at least with his base he's expanded it so much and i and i like the good things he's saying but nick called so far what's happened a year and a half ago and you know i debated him was more critical of him then and then as i see more and more come true it's like am i gonna get mad at the messenger so i respect what he's you know saying here but
finishing up with that and I appreciate your time I got a few of the issues I want to hit here with you why are you saying and I asked the question earlier and I tend to have a sinking feeling with just the change of direction why are you thinking it's over and then what do
you, am I over what is that and then what do you think the effect on Trump will be because he wrote in on the populist movements that were already growing all over the planet and what Ron Paul and myself and our listeners built were recognized by the bad guys at think tanks as building taking over the Tea Party in the last 20 years and building the platform for
Trump, his launch pad and so regardless of what happens to Trump this anti-globalist movement is unstoppable in my view unless they can start some type of major nuclear war or some new virus, Nick Foyntes well
nick fuentes
the reason the reason I think it's over and I'm just done with him is because he's really betrayed us on a lot of the key issues already I mean this is the first six months of the second term and the big question which was hanging over people like you and me and by that I mean people that are paying attention we knew the problem from the first term is that he had bad personnel and that's a fair problem to have he's an
outsider, he's inexperienced he relied on Reince Priebus and Paul Ryan and these other people to basically run his first term and it was a disaster they had a horrible legislative agenda and then they lost the midterms you had personnel that were just disobeying and deceiving the president constantly it seemed like it wasn't until 2020 when John McEntee came in at PPO that things really started to come together in any way when they started building the wall when
they started doing some other initiatives when he really even had any kind of semblance of competency in the administration so the question was is it going to be different?
there's been this four year interregnum Trump has kind of had to sleep on all of it he had time in his first term to learn he fought his way back from the dead politically speaking so the question was will it be any different or will it be more of the same?
are we going to see a truly unprecedented level of achievement and change?
will there be this energy?
will there be this political will to do things that weren't possible before?
and we're six months in and the answer is no it's being used for all the wrong things here we are six months in we have done the corporate tax cut again that was like the centerpiece of the big beautiful bill was to extend the 2017 tax cuts and there's something in there for tip earners but it's capped at
$25,000 is not great it's a corporate tax cut big deal you have Trump bombing Iran which is an immediate break in the promise of no new wars there's going to be more of that down the line we might touch on that later he does this big program for deportations but they're not happening already we've had to fight tooth and nail for months to get them to commit to deporting people they keep trying to resist this and say no no we're going to do targeted enforcement we're not deporting the farmers
we're going to give them an H-1A carve out we're going to do a work program and then this Epstein thing and I said this on my show last night you had this isn't you but this was a lot of people in 2024 they said hey just trust the plan just trust the plan all you need to do is kind of be quiet and just unconditionally support Trump don't be too negative don't be too skeptical or critical that will impede his plan and his progress and yet it's July of the first year and
all of his most dutiful surrogates are having to basically do damage control and lobby him every day to just do the basics don't do an amnesty don't go to war with Iran and have regime change don't do this Epstein cover-up like this is every day now and it's like the biggest pro-Trump influencers are having to lobby him and beg him every day and for me it's like I'm out I didn't sign up we did this the first time I mean are you not tired I
remember in the first term you know how it was in the first term we played this game fighting the personnel fighting all the terrible people in the PPO the chief of staff all the so-called bad guys in the cabinet we were fighting them in the first term trying to get people from the campaign into the administration let me ask you this look here's my problem I agree I'm seeing a lot of bad signs obviously but like I said if there's Trump's like a boat
alex jones
we're in the North Atlantic it's freezing cold we get in the water we're dead in 30 seconds you know it's 50 below and it's starting to leak and I'm wanting to fix the leaks and then the other boat is the Democrats and their boat is on fire with the you know 50 demons dancing around on it so I'm not getting in the boat with 50 demons dancing around and a fireball and then I'm in this boat leaking what am I supposed to do?
nick fuentes
Well I I don't like this analogy because it sort of assumes that we have to do the Republicans every single time it sort of says like well the the other option you know it's this lesser to evils thing the other options totally now because I want him to keep decimating them sure you got this new America party that I was going to lead to that next what do you think about that and what's your prediction for the Elon Musk Trump battle?
You said when you first came on I bet Elon resurvices he resurviced right after that yeah I like it I like it if for no other reason than it kind of shakes things up I think that right now it's sort of to your point what you're saying we have no good options there's a leak in our boat which I think is self-inflicted the other boat is just unacceptable and so I've always been that's why I supported Andrew Yang in 2019 that's why I supported Ye our friend back in 2022 because and people said well you know Trump's obviously going to
win we need to get behind him I said I like shaking things up I like the idea of introducing options creating pressure creating you know different forces because what if if we are left to our devices with just Republicans and Democrats, you know, it's like that classic analogy they use, or that idiom where they say it's two wolves deciding what's for dinner and we're the sheep, you know, we're the food, we're the prey.
So I like if Elon has a party that is like kind of a neoliberal party that says, you know, we're going to have a bunch of Indians and cut taxes.
It almost creates a situation where the GOP implicitly becomes like a nationalist party.
What's the difference between the America Party and the Republican Party?
If the Republican Party is nativist and against immigration and doesn't care about the deficit and becomes like a culture war party, maybe that's a good thing.
Maybe we become a four-party system where you have a progressive party and a liberal party and a nationalist party.
And I understand maybe that's not how it's going to play out.
But if we're getting closer to something like that, I don't think it could get much worse than what we have now.
So in the immediacy, though, I guess I'm just venting my frustration.
I just feel so sick and tired.
I'm sure you are too, of this game.
It's like we're not even six months in and we're like begging him not to do an amnesty.
alex jones
Well, well, Nick Lambs.
You got your finger on the pulse.
So do I. All I hear everywhere, because here's the next shoe to drop.
We're not seeing prosecutions of high-level globalists for the human trafficking, all the crimes, the hundreds of millions stolen on record.
Instead, Musk was doing too good a job, was kicked out because the Republican establishment didn't like it.
And then, you know, where are the bills we heard about to start cutting funding?
So what about broken promises?
I'm not saying they're broken yet, but it's definitely stalling out, and that's not a good sign.
So leading into that, where do you think Musk is going?
And then I want to get into Iran and the time we've got left because, yeah, for those that don't know, it's being reported.
Israel wants to go ahead and hit Iran again.
They think the U.S. is going to join them.
And then I asked the question, what is the excuse for that going to be?
Will the globalists stage a false flag and blame Iran?
Iran's put a fatal out on Trump totally unwisely.
So now it's hard to believe that it wasn't them.
Netanyahu looks like he's on 15 hits of ecstasy.
That's not a good sign.
What's happening?
nick fuentes
Well, as far as Elon is concerned, I think he has no constituency.
So I don't know if that's going to go anywhere.
He called on all of his supporters to call Congress and oppose the bill.
That went nowhere.
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So I think he's really targeted Senate racists.
nick fuentes
I just don't think he has any kind of the poll that he thinks he does.
Politics, it's a network rather than a money thing.
I don't think that he can just buy his way in.
Clearly, that had no effect on the passage of the bill.
And the passage of the bill, that hung on like a few votes.
If they had four votes in the House, if they had four votes in the Senate, they could have sunk the big beautiful bill.
He couldn't even muster that.
It passed in the House by two votes.
It passed in the Senate by a few.
So if he couldn't overturn the bill, how is he going to have any effect on that?
I just have no faith in that.
Although I wish there was more of an impact.
alex jones
And what do you make of Trump saying a couple of weeks ago?
Oh, maybe we'll just turn the monster Elon created loose on him, on Dr. Frankenstein.
Maybe we'll just put a Doge on him.
I mean, wow, that's aggressive.
nick fuentes
It's sick.
It's sick and it's terrifying.
I mean, you know, and it almost makes you feel kind of like one of these liberals.
Liberals say about Trump, he's destroying our institutions.
He's a megalomaniac.
This is like authoritarian.
And you hear them cry about that and you roll your eyes and say, okay, idiot.
Like Trump got impeached.
He got charged.
Like there was a peaceful transition to power.
Give me a break.
But when he does stuff like that, it's like, clearly the American government should not be run in such a personal way.
Clearly, there should be a level of professionalism.
It should be impersonal.
And if you are going to be personal, hey, direct it at Hillary Clinton.
We're going to go after Elon Musk before we go after Obama.
We're going to give Hunter Biden clemency, but we're going to turn Doge on Elon.
That's just like a level of insanity.
Even the most diehard Trump cultist, which I at one time considered myself, it's too much even for me.
But that's Elon.
As far as Iran is concerned, you know, we talked about this a couple of weeks ago.
We're obviously not out of the woods here.
And you know that because Trump tried to have a diplomatic resolution to the problem.
And the problem is Iran has this nuclear hedging strategy.
They have a latent or a threshold nuclear program.
They don't want to give up their capability, the capability to enrich uranium.
Trump wanted to force them into a deal with this maximalist approach, making these threats, putting pressure on through sanctions, threatening a return to the status quo.
They wouldn't budge.
They said, we're never giving up enrichment.
And why?
We don't trust you.
The Iranians are saying, if we give up enrichment, Israel will attack us.
You will support it.
And we are going to die.
Like literally, the supreme leader, the president are going to be hanged.
They're going to literally die.
So they're like, we don't want to die.
We don't trust you.
We're not giving up our only deterrent, which is this program.
They said, but what we will do, we might restrict the enrichment.
We might be able to make some concessions.
We're not giving it up.
What does Trump and Netanyahu do?
They bomb Iran.
And I said, the first thing that's going to happen, even if it's not a full-fledged war, is Iran can never trust Trump.
Netanyahu and his government come out and say Trump was in on it the whole time.
Trump was stringing you along.
Those negotiations, the diplomacy, he was lying to your face.
He was lying through his teeth the entire time.
It was a trick and it was meant to lull you in a false sense of security so we could attack you.
Now, they did that very deliberately because what this does, one, is it tells Iran, you can never negotiate with Washington ever again because they hate you.
They want to destroy you.
They're lying to you.
They're untrustworthy.
But it also forces Trump into a position where either he has to look like an idiot and say, we didn't know what the Israelis were doing.
We're not in control of the situation.
We cannot restrain them if we wanted to.
Or else he has to come out and agree With them and scuttle their own diplomatic effort and say, yes, we did know, we know everything, and we lied to them and they can never trust us.
Well, what did the deputy foreign minister of Iran come out and say today?
After Trump said, We're going to begin negotiations again.
It's going to happen this week.
We're going to pick up where we left off.
The deputy foreign minister says, we have no idea what Trump is talking about.
There is no meeting.
And they said, we're not going to meet with them.
We haven't decided if we're going to meet with them.
Why would we?
He said, we don't trust the Americans.
He said, before we begin meeting again, we need to rebuild trust.
Yeah, obviously.
If you come out and say everything we told you about a peace deal was a trap so that we could actually kill you and your leadership, then we're going to go and say, hey, no hard feelings, right?
Let's just, let's just shake hands and let's try and make a deal.
Yeah, of course not.
And so we are right back where we started, where Iran is refusing to give up enrichment.
Israel wants to bomb them again.
That's why Netanyahu came to Washington.
alex jones
And by the way, I said that before the bombing.
I said they're not going to get the enrichment.
They already took it out.
The Iranians even admit that.
It was such a setup.
And then Trump's like, it's done.
It's over.
It's like, no, it's not.
This is all.
And then even some of our listeners are like, this is easy.
Trump's going to shut down Israel with this.
Alex, you just trust him.
Limited strike.
It'll all be over.
5 trillion D chess.
And then, of course, it wasn't.
We're proven right again.
So let me shift gears into this with you.
The time we have Love You've been Gracious.
Give us two hours.
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Nick, pulling back from all of this, let's look at the wildcard here.
Let's not count the Soros, deep state left that is not giving up.
I see some of the Democrat establishment kind of rolling over because they realize their rhetoric's backfiring.
And now the election fraud investigations are starting.
But you have the Democrats in Axios, it's the CIA mouthpiece, saying there needs to be blood.
Democrat lawmakers say their base is preparing for violence.
They've shot up and attacked two ICE facilities the last couple of days in Texas.
They're attacking ICE all over the streets everywhere.
And they've geared up for this violence.
But now Democrat leaders are like, oh, the violence is coming, but we didn't do it after they already primed it.
That's a real wild card there.
And I'm really concerned about it.
And the Podesta plan for civil war that Trump had won in 2020, which they then said we're going to implement this time if he wins, which they now are trying to get going.
The no-kings thing, the bizarre stuff in Minnesota.
This is something I think we should not forget about the Democrats.
What's your view on that?
nick fuentes
I have a really bad feeling, and I don't know about you, but I have this really bad sense in my gut, especially after the Luigi Mangion thing.
You know, they glorified that guy for months.
They made him into a celebrity.
And you had women like, you know, throwing themselves at this guy, sending him pictures of themselves and so on.
And that's on top of the two assassination attempts against Trump.
That's on top of the violence against ICE and against Border Patrol.
I have this feeling that we're going to look back on this period the same way that we look at 9-11, the same way that we look at some of these other convulsions throughout history where we say, how did we not see it coming?
How did we not see the warning signs?
How did we not see this undercurrent beneath American society that's about to explode?
And what I mean is that probably out there in America, and I don't mean to say this to fearmonger, but you probably have to bet money that there is some Ted Kaczynski level genius leftist who is in his workshop building a dirty bomb, planning out some high-level mass casualty event, ready to go.
After the Trump assassinations, the glorification of Luigi Mangione, the rhetoric on ICE, the No Kings Day, 250th anniversary of America, which is going to be celebrated throughout the coming year, this rhetoric surrounding Trump and authoritarianism.
I mean, maybe it doesn't happen.
It's one of those things where it's like, you know, who knows?
Maybe it'll all be fine.
Maybe Palantir will thwart any plot now.
You know, they see everything.
It's a panopticon.
But I do just have this really bad feeling.
Maybe this is the media priming the pump.
But between Luigi and this other stuff, it's like there's definitely someone out there who is inspired by that that we don't know about yet.
There's someone out there that saw that and said, I'm going to do that.
alex jones
I'm going to be like, I don't think it's just a feeling.
I mean, we all know the subconscious is more powerful than the conscious.
It knows all the data.
Well, the conscious focus part of the cerebral cortex is only giving an error of focus.
100%, we have the Podesta plan for blue states to secede, blue cities to secede, all based on migrants being mowed down during immigration enforcement.
Then they postpone it because they steal the election.
Then they produce civil war that is a wet dream promotion or almost lesser magic where they're producing something to hope it happens.
And then now they're trying to put it into function.
The question is, will they get this thing launched, Nick?
And what do you see coming out of that?
Because it's an incredibly dangerous gamble by the globalists.
That goes against the idea that Trump's gotten the main globalists to give up with this deal on the Epstein files to suppress those.
Or we all know the globalists aren't just one block.
A lot of these NGOs, like you said, are already primed.
They're already brainwashed.
There's lots of lone wolf ideologues out there.
I don't think it's a question of if, when, we already just saw two ICE attacks the last few days.
I think we're going to see a lot of violence.
nick fuentes
I mean, here's how it's going to play out.
What gives me a little bit of hope is that when you had the protests against ICE in Los Angeles, they started out very violent, and then they had their No Kings Day protest, and that was relatively non-violent, with the exception of the very bizarre Minnesota situation, which we don't even really know all the information on that.
Super weird and a lot of questions on that.
But I think there was some self-consciousness on the part of the left that they said, we're losing people.
Even they started handing out American flags in LA because they said the optics of Waymos melting into the street and like cars blowing up and people riding around on dirt bikes waving Mexican flags.
People said that's not the best look.
You know, if we want these people to stay here, it's not a good look to brand them as foreigners ruining America.
So they were literally handing out saying, take these American flags so that it doesn't look like Mexico is invading the United States.
So that gives me a little bit of hope because how this would happen.
alex jones
And then we had the Mexican president and the leader of their Senate say, we will use our forces to do this.
I mean, we've gotten to that level now.
nick fuentes
Right.
So, and that was not doing them any favors from an optical point of view, from a PR point of view.
And so how this will play out is you're going to have maybe a mass casualty event.
It'll be executed well.
There'll be a high death count or something like this.
And surely I think the left wing will disavow that.
I think that we're not so far gone where people are going to hype that up.
I think everyone, it's going to be incumbent on them to disavow.
The question is, does it continue at sort of like a low boil in a disorganized way?
Is there going to be any kind of element, a far left radical element, an Antifa element, in a decentralized way that is sort of continually inspired by these things like from Texas?
alex jones
But what about the wild card of the false flag?
What about mowing down a bunch of illegals, blaming Trump?
nick fuentes
It's possible.
I mean, I think they did that in Buffalo.
I think they did that in El Paso.
None of these people are ever far from the FBI.
They did it throughout Biden.
So certainly you could get it from both sides.
I think, though, of course, the inevitable conclusion of all the political violence is you're going to get more surveillance.
And really the big thing, this is something I've thought about a lot.
It's a question of when you're going to see the first drone terrorism.
I've thought about this a lot.
It's such a no-brainer.
It's obviously taking off in Ukraine and Israel.
When are you going to see a bomb strapped to a drone go and hit some crowd of people?
Because once that happens, everything will change.
It's going to be like a 9-11 level vulnerability moment where you're going to get the equivalent of the Patriot Act, the TSA.
You're going to see anti-drone jamming.
You're going to see a new level of surveillance.
alex jones
I agree.
That's how the real police state, the $150 million for border enforcement, is really going to become, like Ron Paul always said, they're not building the wall to keep people out.
They're building it to keep us in.
Nick, you'll be on at eight or nine o'clock tonight whenever you launch your show.
America First.
People can find it on Rumble and on X. Thank you, Nick.
Puentez, amazing two hours.
Thanks for staying longer.
nick fuentes
Thank you so much.
Thanks for having me.
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And I do intend to open the phones up tomorrow.
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