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MONDAY FULL SHOW 7/7/25 — Internet EXPLODES As FBI Claims Epstein Had No Clients, Didn’t Blackmail Anyone, And Definitely Killed Himself! Alex Jones, Roger Stone, Kyle Seraphin, & Judge Joe Brown Reveal The Truth Behind These Breaking Developments! MUST-WATCH/SHARE Edition Of The Alex Jones Show!
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alex jones
Today, it's Monday, July 7th, 2025.
I'm your host, Alex Jones.
And all hell, as you know, has broken loose.
We are entering the 168th day of Trump being sworn in almost to the hour, 168 days ago.
All right, obviously, everyone is tuned in, and we're going to have, I'd probably instead of 20 million viewers and listeners today, probably 40 million, because everybody wants to obviously know what I'm going to say and what my guests are going to say about the Epstein, DOJ, Trump administration cover-up.
And that's what it is, make no mistake.
And more than just that, it is a joining with the entire conspiracy.
Now, the bigger question is, why on earth would Patel, Bongino, a few months ago, we'll get the clip, go on Fox like Deer in the Headlights, like they were both had guns to their head, hostages.
The body language was, this is BS.
You couldn't come across as more disingenuous.
It completely blew up in their face, and they went around continually doing it on other shows.
Now, they're both very smart men, and very smart people obviously wargamed all of that.
And it flew 100% in the face of what they'd said previously and what Pam Bondi, the AG had said literally weeks before that.
Hundreds of new victims, videos, Epstein and others raping children.
It's so horrible.
And then doing a 180 and saying, you know, we're going to release the video soon of Epstein killing himself, and then it's not that.
And just all this.
You could not hurt the Trump administration worse if you tried to.
And so this is 100% like a Japanese samurai taking a short sword and jabbing it in on the right side of his stomach, drawing it towards the middle, and then pushing it up and jabbing it in their heart.
Sepuku.
So why is the DOJ particularly committing sepuku?
I mean, their credibility before with the Democrats was in ruins.
But to watch a self-inflicted wound like this, because I know this story and this issue up one side and down the other.
And obviously, I woke up at 6 a.m. this morning, and this had broken overnight, but out about six, eight hours, and it was another vicious punch to the stomach.
And then it took me a couple hours.
I mean, I instantly knew what was going on, but a few hours of process and really think about it.
And I know in the main exactly what's going on.
And I made some phone calls to people like Roger Stone and FBI whistleblower Kyle Serafin and others.
And they all basically concurred with my analysis.
In fact, Stone was already saying it before I gave my opinion.
I said, what's your opinion?
It was exactly the same thing.
This is not our opinion.
So if you want to know exactly what's going on here in the main, I mean, I know in the 35,000-foot view that there's a lot of particular components.
And what you're going to get from me today is just the facts.
You can make your own decision about all this.
But understanding the way they fell on their sword this way was part of an obvious deal with the deep state to go out and join us in the conspiracy.
And then you'll have a deal with us to stop trying to kill Trump and the rest of it.
I mean, that's what this is.
And we're going to lay it all out straight ahead.
It is 725.
As I come to you from the Embattled Infowar Studios in Austin, Texas, we are in the 167th day of the administration, about to go into the beginning of the 168th.
I know exactly what's going on with the Epstein cover-up firestorm.
And I'll be laying it all out, interspersed with other keynotes today with Roger Stone, Kyle Serafin, and others.
But first, let's go back in the last year to the time vault with President Trump and J.D. Vance and what they had to say about the Epstein client list.
We're now told doesn't exist.
Here it is.
donald j trump
But a lot of big people went to that island.
But fortunately, I was not one of them.
lex fridman
It's just very strange for a lot of people that the list of clients that went to the island has not been made public.
unidentified
Yeah, it's very interesting, isn't it?
donald j trump
Probably will be, by the way.
lex fridman
So if you're able to, you'll be.
donald j trump
Yeah, I'd certainly take a look at it.
Now, Kennedy's interesting because it's so many years ago.
You know, they do that for danger too, because, you know, it endangers certain people, et cetera, et cetera.
So Kennedy is very different from the Epstein thing.
But yeah, I'd be inclined to do the Epstein.
I'd have no problem with it.
unidentified
Everybody in politics has a vice that's much worse than alcoholism, is the way that I put it.
lex fridman
But we release the list.
peter doocy
Seriously, we need to release the Epstein list.
That is an important thing.
alex jones
All right.
There's a lot of pieces to this, and it's important to review the history some.
And we'll be getting Kyle Serafin, very well-known, very respected FBI whistleblower, so much what we know about the deep state and its corruption to target American people because of him and others.
We have Roger Stone, obviously long-term Trump confidant and wingman, who knows a lot about Trump's sexual proclivities.
And I can tell you from other, many other sources, it's not children.
And it would have been brought out if any of the stuff that the left's tried to put out about him is true.
That said, here's the summation of what's going on, and then I'm going to walk through it all.
They knew the Democrats under Comey and his daughter in New York had this giant trove that they gleaned from the Caribbean and New Mexico and New York out of the lairs of Jeffrey Epstein.
And so when they didn't turn it over, they raided them now four months ago.
And then Bondi went on Fox News and said, yes, there's thousands of files, meaning computer files, video files, you name it, and it's terrible children abuse.
It will come out.
And then she got caught undercover, basically even elaborating.
And then when she knew that video was coming out, she talked about it at a press conference a few days later.
That was James O'Keefe.
And there'd been rumblings in D.C. about an ongoing cover-up.
We knew it was going on previously.
And I said, it's too early to tell.
We ought to see.
And then when Bondi, we confirmed this from Seraphin and others, sent the files out to offices around the country, which is what you do if you're going to start investigating something.
That's how the law works.
A few months later, I talked to Seraphin and other sources.
They said, no, no one's working on it.
So what they did is load the gun, cock the gun, put it to the deep state CIA head.
That's what this is.
And Trump's got his guy supposedly ratcliff over there.
And they said, make a deal with us and basically roll over and surrender and stop your deep state attacks.
And we were elected.
Let us run things and we'll shut this down.
That's what happened.
Trump doesn't have sex with children.
Trump was never involved in any of it.
We've had the court cases.
We've had the witnesses.
We've had multiple women they killed saying, no, I never saw Trump on the island.
The two men were socialites in New York.
They lived in the same area of Florida.
He was a member of the club.
What, 15, 16, 7 years ago, Trump kicked him out for trying to pick up people's 14-year-old daughters, which is what he was well known for going out procuring.
And it was quite the workhorse of evil.
And so we know this backwards and forwards.
I know a lot of people that have stayed with Trump and has in New York, other places, and they've gone out with him, partied with him, doesn't drink, has his wife in between that, has girlfriends.
And Roger used to be his wingman when Trump didn't want people to know who his girlfriends were.
They would go out to dinner so he could take his girlfriends out.
That's really where Roger and Trump got together.
That's been in the New York Times 20 years ago, but Roger's like, talk about it, but that's the thing.
And you see Trump's type.
It's his wife.
Very intimidating, very feminine, very powerful.
Lightning bolts shooting out of her eyes.
If you understand criminology and the way pedophiles operate in psychology, men that like flamethrower, powerful women are not attracted to children.
People like the people that have been running the medical system, the guy that's not a doctor, but globally controls all the poison shots, that's what one looks like and acts like.
A creepy, wicked, evil person.
So we've got their MO.
From all the MO we know about Bill Clinton, he likes to beat up and rape women and bite them.
Not big on the kids, but he'll screw a 15, 16-year-old girl.
I know the sexual proclivities of all these people because they have long histories.
Dick Cheney, not into men.
A bunch of the Republicans are.
He likes to break women's jaws.
We know the stuff has come out.
So Trump is not a pedophile.
And that said, I just am getting that on the record for my research.
By doing this, though, the Trump administration is getting in bed with the elements of the CIA, MI6, and Mossad that ran this whole thing.
And it is documented that Ghislaine Maxwell's father was Mossad, MI6, and on the Russian payroll.
It's on record when the scandal came out, he owned most of the dominant media in the UK with the government, MI6, that when that was coming out, they threw him off a boat and killed him.
It's on record that that was the family franchise.
It's on record that when Epstein married his daughter, he was marrying into the Mossad operation.
She was the boss, not Epstein.
So you now have Prince Andrew off the hook with this.
And behind the scenes, 100%, you know, the CI directors met with Trump many times on this, and they said, load the gun, put it to their head, bring them to the edge, and then the deep state will roll over.
But the deep state, the establishment, the globalists, said, you have to go on television and you have to have the FBI director, deputy director, do a tour and say that he killed himself and say there was no client list and say there was no blackmail operations.
And that's what you got to do.
So this isn't the deep state blackmailing Trump.
This is Trump administration in the blackmail business.
So that's what this is.
And so my integrity is king.
That's not something I have to even think about doing.
I cannot help it.
And I say that because Trump is good overall.
He does care about the country.
He does want peace.
He is doing the best economic plan that anybody can do.
He is trying to get our morale up.
They have cut off 96% of the human smuggling.
They are rounding up the networks and all the rest of it.
They're miners, so it cannot be in the news by law, but you see the arrests and the reports they're pouring in.
Just like the four guys that killed Jamie White, we only know two of their names because the other two are 16.
So I'm seeing Homan and their people, and I've got sources everywhere in the jails, in the FBI, on the border.
They are, you see them, they are literally just explosively for the small forces they've got doing a great job.
And this is not a defense of any of this going on.
The only way I know how to report this, because I'm having my own, not even mental struggles with this, just trying to look at it all and see what it is.
The globalists have wanted Trump dead.
They've wanted him destroyed.
They've come after him.
They have viciously come after me and hundreds of other prominent people, tens of thousands they've come after, but hundreds extremely.
I have sacrificed so much for Trump.
I know you have as well because I want to save the country and save the world.
And overall, and I'm not a Lesser Two Ebles person.
Overall, I'm very glad Trump is in.
But now you understand why Musk, he's bounced back.
He doesn't look 10 years older now.
But there was about a week period, two week period.
I remember saying probably the crew, because I don't want to run people down, man, Musk looks really bad.
And of course, I didn't think he was on drugs.
He did a big test, put it out totally clean.
And he's like Trump.
He swills Diet Coke.
That's a drug, very toxic.
But other than drinking poison Diet Coke all day long, like Trump, no, he's not on anything, but Diet Coke.
Trump's on Diet Coke and SudaFed.
Okay, fine.
But let's just get everything out here.
So within a week period, he looked like he aged 10 years, like his soul was sucked out.
And you can see Elon Musk has got a good soul.
You can see most of his actions are good.
But the point is, is that he looked really freaked out and really shaken up.
And I'm sure at the level he was at, he was read in on what was about to happen.
Now he says Trump is on the list.
The list is a dumb way of putting it.
There are houses.
That's in the FBI reports.
Houses full.
The quote was, you could fill houses with what was at Zorro Ranch alone.
Huge safes.
We have the photos, file cameras full of VHS going back decades, DBDs, hard drives, memory sticks, folders listing what it all is.
These different world leaders and corporate leaders come to Zorro Ranch, come to Little St. John's Island.
They come to the New York dungeon to have sex with children knowing they're on camera.
That is your initiation.
Just like MS-13, to get higher up in it, you got to kidnap and kill, rape and kill a little girl for Satan.
You know, the old-fashioned Italian mafia, you just got to, you know, kill people.
It's not just kill one person and make your bones.
You got to proficiently kill.
And if you don't kill them and do a good job, it just doesn't happen because you can't do other killings if you didn't do a professional job.
So, but you see, that type of mafia was just bound on culture and honor.
Well, in the modern age, it's not enough that they, you know, got, okay, this guy's killed 10 people for us.
Now we can trust him.
No.
You got to go in when some 10-year-old that's been used up for six months in a dungeon is fighting and going crazy.
And, you know, and it's, all right, they're used up.
Go give them a dirt nap.
And they make these world leaders and political leaders, they got to go into a dungeon and they got to strangle or shoot, whatever they tell them to do, beat them to death, stab them to death, whatever they tell them.
I talked to people, they've seen it.
It's come out.
It's been in reports.
It's not stuff you really see on the news.
And they go to these bankers and People and they tell them, they tell their wives too: listen, remember all that stuff you did, all the kids rape, and all the rest of it?
We're going to kill you if you don't go to this address and if you don't go into this room and if you don't kill these kids we got in cages.
And they grab them by the throat and they say, you understand?
You wanted into this.
You wanted to be part of this.
You get in there and you kill them right now.
And that's how this thing works.
Got it?
So grow up.
Realize who we're up against.
Pure 100% Satanism.
This is the real deal.
So that's where we are.
And you've got all these people going, oh, did this happen for national security because Trump learned that Epstein was CIA and Mossad?
Well, of course everybody knows that.
And you got Barr, who was the head of the, in the CIA and then Attorney General twice, his dad running the girls school where Jeffrey Epstein with no education degree tutored the girls as his first job in New York.
And then Barr's dad writes a book about a space colony of little girls that the galactic elite go and rape.
So they like to tell you what they're up to.
And so this has all been a big joke to discredit the FBI, discredit the DOJ, and to have them take part in this.
And Pam Bondi, oh, here's all the files.
And then she learns from a New York source, broke it here with O Boyle, another big FBI whistleblower.
Two days before it broke, he said, no, our guy's just going to meet with her today, letting her know that there's actually this giant trove in New York.
And then you see her go, oh my gosh, put a cover sheet on, say, oh, my gosh, I'm going to go expose it.
I'm going to ship it over there.
And then you got these forces behind the scenes that are manipulating all this saying, see, Bondi's got it.
It's being sent to the FBI.
Better do what we say.
And so Bondi and Patel and Bongino, I guarantee you, we're not even in on those high-level discussions.
Now, other people came to him and said, listen, this is how this really works.
Okay.
And it's for the greater good.
And we're now going to control all these networks.
We're shutting the networks down.
Got home and doing that, which they are, all evidence.
But for the country and the world, if this all comes out, all these corporate leaders and bankers and people doing this, if this comes out, it'll bring the country down.
And we've got the UK and the King of England is going to get in line with us and everybody else with this information, but they don't want that held over their head.
You're going to have to come out and you're going to have to tell everybody that he didn't kill himself.
It put out a ridiculous video of the hallway entrance to the wing and cops, you know, dragging trash cans around and bringing people food.
And, oh, look, well, you know, down that wing, he just killed himself.
See, we're showing you this.
Oh, wow.
Incredible.
Nobody went in that door but police.
Jail guards.
Yeah, but who's in there with him?
He already said months before the cop convicted for murdering a bunch of people with his bare hands was in there and already tried to kill him.
So this is what we get.
So if it doesn't make sense, I mean, obviously, if they were going to cover this up, they would have just said, oh, we're investigating and just shut up about it.
But they never did that.
They instead run around looking like they're being made to walk the plank by Captain Hook, and there's a crocodile down there about to eat them.
Because Mongino, I know people that know him for a long time, he is a great guy.
Cash Patel's a great guy.
And they're now in the big leagues of the intelligence agencies.
And I'll guarantee you, they've said, oh, we've seen the files.
Yeah, imagine they go, okay, here's 14 terabytes of kids getting right.
They're just like, oh, we can't struggle.
You see, it show.
But now they're going into the networks.
If you think, though, these networks are really going to give up, if you think they've really made the deal, I wouldn't trust those people on top of mountain at noon with the sun shining.
I wouldn't turn my back on them for a millisecond.
So this is 100% the CIA, Mossad, MI6 that are the same thing.
Zbigniew Brzezinski, I've read most of all of his books.
One of them he wrote in the 70s.
Turned to my dad when I was like seven years old.
I always wanted to read that book once I could understand it.
He's like, this is a Brzezinski book, Carter's National Security Advisor.
This is how it really works.
He admits that they run the criminal networks, including the child trafficking and pedophilia.
And I go, what's that?
They grab kids.
Well, my dad's doing dad's constantly telling me about how the world works.
He goes, when you get old enough, you read this.
He's in here admitting.
He goes, well, we control the evil by controlling it.
We have to run all the criminal networks And all the systems, but that way it doesn't get out of control.
We control evil by being the evil.
And last time I was on Patrick McDavid, I talked about that and told that story there.
I need to remember which book that was, but Brzezinski, Brzezinski, before he died, got up at the CFR, their version of Canada, and said, before we could propagandize a million people and it worked, now we just need to kill everybody.
We don't have what it takes anymore just to control everybody with brainwashing.
Now it's just easier to kill everybody.
And he said, you know, I didn't have the Khmer Rouge and Pol Pot kill all those millions of people, a third of the population in Cambodia.
He said, but I set him up and gave him the orders to do it.
You can pull that quote up.
Let's type it in.
Veterzinski talks about Pol Pot.
It's like, oh, I didn't do the killing.
The U.S. didn't do the killing.
We just set him up to do it.
Something even worse than communism.
It was communism.
It just didn't call itself communism.
You can read or write, you're dead.
You're wearing glasses, you're dead, because that means you know how to read.
I mean, that's the communist to the next level.
And that's why they all worship Brzezinski because he was one of their top strategists.
And it's all about how many people you've killed, how vicious you are, how soulless you are.
And I had these people, I had Henry Kissinger try to hire me right in front of John Harmon, the head of the Kissinger group.
They gave the speech right in front of my producer.
That's the reason I've told you that story.
I've been given that speech probably 20 times by the globalist, okay?
They're 100% real.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
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This little piggy stayed home.
This little piggy had roast beef.
This little piggy had none.
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This little piggy went wee, wee, wee wee, wee, wee all the way home.
alex jones
And this little piggy burned down the new world order.
Let me see your war face, Schumer.
Let me see your war face, Obama.
Let me see your war face.
Because what you're seeing from Trump and what you're seeing from people all over the world is our war face.
And it's not just the face.
It reflects the internal eruption.
So good luck.
But I commit myself into the hands of God.
And I pray on the altar of God that I be given the discernment and the will and the strength and the support to remove the chains from humanity.
So let's never forget the business that we are about and the time in which we live.
They want to break our will.
Don't just survive and persevere and not let them break your will.
Instead, take the weight of their assault and use it as a tool to strengthen every fiber of your psyche, your soul, and who you are.
And pledge with me, eternal resistance over every form of tyranny that has attacked the mind of man.
And pledge, as he pledged 250 years ago, the great architect of our republic, Thomas Jefferson, I have sworn on the altar of God, eternal resistance against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.
Make that pledge and feel the universe open up.
Step into the space-time continuum and realize we're sharing that same moment with Thomas Jefferson now.
There is no past, there is no present, there is no future.
There is only one endless, timeless moment.
and absorb the void, and you will be there staring back at God.
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So my job is to do deep research, have incredible sources, massive historical understanding, and then just tell the truth and let the chips fall where they may.
Justice be done.
may the Evans fall.
You can see the pragmatic angle from Trump if they do start prosecuting all of these world leaders and financial leaders, business leaders in a giant deep state, child rape, initiations, cult.
If all that comes out, what will the aftermath be?
Well, the world will see the United States, the UK, and Europe, and how it operates as pure, absolute, complete scum.
And so Trump is now using the Epstein files that they have and we know they have.
The videos, all of it.
The client list, all of it.
Houses full.
It would fill houses.
FBI report.
To Sorrel Ranch.
And it's come out in court.
Where did it all go?
Well, a bunch of it went to New York.
And the Democrats were sitting on it and the FBI head there.
Remember, I dug in.
We're at war with Trump.
We're not giving him anything.
We're not helping them.
Remember the email?
Don't work with him.
Don't talk to them.
They had to rate them.
And then they got it.
And there's photos from the FBI.
I saw it in New York.
Hard drives.
And boxes after boxes of hard drives.
Cabin after cabin of that.
And then they come out and tell us it's all there.
Part of the deal, load the gun, put it at the deep state head, and then make a deal for the deep state to roll over and to hand the keys over to Trump.
And is Trump going to dismantle it now?
We're seeing a lot of signs of that.
96% reduction, the smuggling over the border, rolling up the networks doing it.
I'm not defending any of this, by the way.
I'm telling you what's going on.
This is the thinking.
But to make that deal, they had to say, okay, we'll go out and say there's nothing there so that we can't then use it against you later.
Because the bad guys say, well, how do we know if we do this, you won't alter the deal later?
We want you to join the conspiracy.
We want you to become accomplices after the fact.
We want you to get in the swamp with us and swim around and by extension join the cult.
Or you could say it's a marriage.
So, no, I understand that they didn't have people even willing to prosecute this, people even willing to watch the videos, see a couple, don't want to see anymore.
And there's a tendency when something's so horrible to cover it up, like the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts and every other institution.
They get a few pedophiles in via the Jesuits.
And then it comes out, the parish covers it up.
They send the priest somewhere else.
They do it more.
Then they use that as blackmail.
They get more of the cult in.
And that's how this thing works.
It's a disease.
This is in Palm Beach, I believe.
And more of the files and all the rest of it.
So I forgot Palm Beach, not just Zoro Ranch, not just New York, not just little St. John's Island.
There's Florida.
Yeah, this is Florida.
And so, yeah, they have it.
Comey and the Democrats and Obama through the CIA were running it.
Brennan, and they were targeting Trump.
And now Trump's got it.
So everybody's asking the elementary questions that have already been answered.
Everybody keeps doing articles.
Look, Soros groups are funding the rioters.
We already knew that decades ago.
Soros groups are funding the NGO Open Borders.
Yeah, it was hating our money.
So we don't ever talk about prosecuting them or stopping it.
It's always just now they are cutting the funding.
Finally, real action.
It's always just, oh, oh, is it Soros?
Is it Soros?
It's the same thing here.
Is Epstein intelligence?
Well, the U.S. attorney that did the limited hangout prosecution of him 15, 16 years ago in Florida, where he just checked himself in at night, you know, at the jail for a couple of years or a year.
They limited it to, you know, 16-year-old girls.
That's just the surface.
That's the gateway drug.
And he said in court filings and an interview, he said, no, I was told go easy on him.
He was intelligence.
Well, of course he was.
He got Ehud Barak, the Israeli prime minister, caught there dozens of times, kind of covered his face in New York alone.
But everybody just stays at the level of, here, let's have an expert on and spend an hour.
Was he connected to intelligence?
I don't know.
Does a fish swim in the ocean?
Does a bird fly in the sky?
Is grass green?
Islam Maxwell's father on record was Mossad MI6 and Russian agent.
And of course, anybody at the super spy level is a double, triple, quadruple agent.
Any real spy is in the FBI, the CIA, and 10 other things because they jump back and forth.
So Gislane Maxwell inherited the business.
Epstein was her workhorse who constantly complained he had to have sex with up to 10 girls a day, just priming them and testing them and getting them ready.
That's a big operation.
That's a big operation.
But it got so big and so much came out they had to at least put her in prison.
And that sends a message to all the people that have been blackmailed.
See, we'll put people in prison and we can control the trials and limit it to just you.
And who does that?
Comey's daughter, Maureen Comey, out of that same office in New York.
It's all right there.
Now there's Maxwell's father on screen.
So, and before they killed him and threw him off his yacht, they sucked all the money out of the companies and out of the newspapers and TV channels that he never really owned.
MI6 and Mossad owned them, which is the same organization.
Ian Fleming wrote about it.
He was high-level there.
He called it Spectre.
You see, you'll watch a cartoon like G.I. Joe, and there's the good guys, G.I. Joe, and then there's Cobra.
Well, you know why Cobra wears a mask?
Because he's the director of the CIA.
You know why Destro Wears a mask.
He's MI6.
They even tell you.
He's an arms dealer from Scotland.
He's a lord.
It's all a big joke right in your face.
And so they get to do their bad operations as Cobra.
And right next to him is G.I. Joe.
That's the good guy.
And a lot of Cobra's soldiers get killed.
And a lot of G.I. Joe gets killed.
But at the end of the day, it's all run by Cobra.
And now Trump is the head of Cobra.
Cobra.
Thank you.
The head of Spectre.
Trump is now the boss.
He has successfully maneuvered in and taken over.
And the question is, will he now shut all this satanic garbage down?
And these people don't just do this for power.
They like it.
So nobody else, and I wish other people were because this is not fun to stick my head in a dragon's mouth.
But it has to be done.
And people need to grow up and get informed and realize what's going on.
Yeah, the different houses, New York, the Caribbean, Florida have dental chairs, they call them, with dental devices like probes and medical extractors.
You know them as pliers.
So, oh, there's a lot of dentistry that goes on.
Oh, that'll get you answers real quick.
Look at yourself in the mirror.
Now watch your front teeth get pulled out.
How's that?
You want to do another one?
Let's move on to here.
Let's move on to, oh, that nerve's dying.
Let's move with a drill over to this one.
this is the real world and And what you had is an externalization of this because they've gotten sloppy.
But the way this works, let me give you an example.
For at least 100 years, the U.S. Army didn't do this before because that was a little secret thing the British and others did.
And Washington said, we're not doing that because we lose the moral high ground.
But for at least 100 years, they went back to it where, you know what it means to be an army officer in the special units?
Because, you know, the enlisted, they don't get to know about this.
To be an army officer, you go and you get your torture training.
Now, I don't mean like evasion training where, oh, we teach you how to torture in case you're captured, but really we're teaching you how to torture.
That's for the enlisted.
No, no, they have actual torture training and the torture devices, the electricity and all the rest of it.
And see, that's what it is.
Be an officer, just like in the Navy, you'd have the regular sailors on one end of the ship and then their own area, you have the officers, and the officers aren't supposed to fraternize or really talk to the regular people because they're not supposed to know how compartmentalization works.
Well, see, on this broadcast, that's what we do is decompartmentalize.
So, Bongino and Patel get put in.
And overall, cutting back crime and going after human trafficking and all the rest of it, they've massively accelerated the good work.
They're doing a bunch of good work, but they're the Boy Scouts.
You guys sit right over there and you Boy Scouts now, you go on TV and tell everybody Epstein killed himself and that there's no files and no blackmail and that the Easter bunny is real.
Okay.
And they're like, all right, we swore loyalty.
We'll go do that.
This doesn't make sense.
Well, I'm sure some people will explain it to you later.
And then they sit down with them and just, you know, maybe it works like this, Dan.
Maybe it works like this, Cash.
You understand how the real world works, right?
We can't let the enlisted people know that we torture women and children in front of whoever we want to get answers from.
You can't let them know that because, well, you know, they're not strong enough mentally to handle that and to understand sometimes you got to use the dark side to protect the light.
Do you understand now, Dan?
That's good, Dan.
That's good, Cash.
See, you are a big boy doing big boy things.
And so this is the nature of how the universe really works.
And I have decided many years ago that the best thing I can do is just expose how it all works.
Because they can try to hide this stuff and use it for blackmail and all the rest of it.
But at the end of the day, the truth is now out and there's nothing the globalists are going to be able to do to stop it.
And the externalization of the drugging the kids, the surgeries, the normalization of this sick Satanism is being rolled back by Trump is being rolled back by the grassroots.
And I see Trump actually pragmatically believing he made the right decision here.
I'm not defending it.
I'm not endorsing it.
I'm saying, because I can hold multiple concepts and thoughts and philosophies in my mind at one time, I can hold hundreds.
Doesn't mean I have the one I know is right.
I have the one that the Holy Spirit tells me to follow.
But I can also understand this.
And I understand that I am attacking the corrupt satanic system from a completely different angle of total exposure.
But in Trump's position of the country and trying to stabilize the world, he believes this is the right thing to do.
And he's made the decision to take control of the blackmail material on Bill Gates and the rest of them.
And that's why more and more you see them clicking their heels and kissing his ass at the NATOB events and just groveling to him.
Because Trump never met with globalists, never made deals, always was his own man, loved that, was not in their club because he understood they'd try to control him.
Instead, he got in at the top of the club and took it over.
Now, the question is, will he dismantle it?
And the reason I'm saying I understand what Trump's doing is because so far we're seeing massive dismantlement of the real rubber meets the road of this system.
They really are sending in special operations to kill people producing fentanyl.
They really are stopping the human trafficking.
They really are, people are falling downstairs.
Let's just say that.
Tapping one.
People are falling out of windows.
People are disappearing.
And you just say, oh my God, that's super dangerous.
Well, that's what this is.
And now you see real fear.
When you see the Democrats, they're just the puppets and all of them all scared and shaking when Hakeem Jeffries did his eight-hour speech.
You look at their body language.
They ain't so arrogant now because they're picking up the phone to their bosses and they're not getting phone calls back.
They're getting disconnected.
So the danger of this historically is that Lord Acton said power corrupts, absolutely, power corrupts, absolutely.
It is historically been impossible to try to go in and take over an evil operation and not just burn it to the ground.
That's the only way to do it.
You try to go in and manage it and curtail it and manipulate it.
You're back to Brzezinski talk of, oh, well, we run the human trafficking and the pedophilia because we control it and keep it respectable, you know, and make sure they don't get wealthy people's kids, you know, and then we can.
I mean, imagine writing books where you're saying that you're the national security advisor.
They're trying to, again, he knows policy wonks are reading that and they're trying to see who will come up to them at parties and say, I really liked your book.
I'd like to know more.
Oh, would you like to do some jobs for us?
Well, let's see.
Deliver this package.
Deliver this note.
Go talk to this person for me.
By the way, yeah, you've done that stuff now?
Won't you talk to this guy?
He's got something else for you to do.
I may call on you for a service, and that day may never come.
Whatever I do, I need you to faithfully carry out that service.
And there are so many good ideologues in the world who serve evil, but believe they're doing it for a greater cause.
And that's called end justifies the means.
And in history, when you're faced with an evil and you're being overrun, it's very easy to say, well, I'm going to use dirty tricks too to defeat this evil.
But you didn't, in time, become that.
So this all remains to be seen.
I see the good Trump's doing directly, derailing the entire pedophile, pedo, open takeover of our children on a mass scale.
Shutting the border down.
Taking new trafficking down to almost zero.
That's confirmed.
That's really good.
Escalating it.
And I see all the other good going on.
And so I ask you, what do you think?
Because I've just told you what it is.
You know it's true.
You've seen it.
You know deep down in your gut it's true.
So it's not just Trump administration that's now using the blackmail and coming in.
All of us are being as a society corrupted by this because instead of these people being arrested and going to prison, now they get to skate again and to be above the law.
And the argument is, well, they're going to behave themselves this time.
And now I've got all the clips of the duplicity and the flip-flopping and just the outrageous behavior that is blowing up spectacularly in the face of the DOJ and the FDA.
And of course, they knew this was going to happen.
This is part of the deal.
And I'll go over all the clips next hour of Kyle Seraphin's studio and then Roger Stone and then more today.
And I've got all the clips, all of it coming up.
Remember, it's very important to keep a broadcast like this on air that actually understands how things work.
Our guests, myself, the crew, this compendium, this focal point, to fight the next fake lockdown, to fight the next virus, to fight the next war they try to start.
And boy, there's big news on that.
Head of NATO says, yeah, we're probably just going to have a full new world war.
We're already in one.
Questions, we'll do nuclear.
I mean, it's just, it's such a dangerous time in the world.
And we continue to see the arrests of the traffickers, the smugglers, you know, all that, the sex slavers.
That's a good thing.
If I don't see that continue and escalated and accelerated, then I am going to start taking an extremely negative view towards the trump administration right now i'm just laying out on the table what i see and i'm going to cogitate on it and have a larger debate and take your calls and more but all the clips all the details the factoids it's all coming up but but yes at the base level u.s
intelligence, the CIA, heavily involved with the Mossad, MI6.
And so they're like, Mr. President, we'll bring down the government.
Well, the government already brought the country down.
We're trying to get it booted back up right now.
But that's the argument.
This is too horrible.
It just can't come out.
Okay, but we can now have control over all these people and they'll stop trying to kill you and we can get our agenda through for the greater good.
Trump thinks about it?
Mm.
But I'm sure there's more.
Yes, Mr. President.
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giving his take on this.
He told me on air months ago, and before that, he privately goes, you're going to get nothing.
And he's been unfortunately proven right.
And so we'll be unpacking that and breaking that down.
But here is Bongino a year ago saying there's a lot of evidence in.
Well, we know there is.
They went and raided it four or five months ago in New York.
So you can't say, oh, there's all these kids getting raped, and now there's nothing.
This is the scandal of scandals of scandals.
He's coming in.
But first, here's Bongino.
dan bongino
The Gee-Lane Maxwell case.
We have an update on that from the Telegraph.
Turns out, headline, evidence from Jeffrey Epstein's safe went missing after an FBI raid.
Court hears in Gheelane Maxwell trial.
Folks, listen, I have over a decade of experience as a federal agent myself.
Who cares?
Yeah, look at me.
unidentified
Experience.
dan bongino
I'm just telling you, to prove bona fides here, I have processed hundreds, if not thousands of pieces of evidence throughout my law enforcement career.
I don't know how you would lose evidence.
Let me explain to you how evidence works.
You survey search warrant in Jeffrey Epstein's house, and let's say, for example, you find videotapes or DVDs or whatever it may be.
You then take them, you tag them, you note where you found them.
In many cases, you take pictures.
In most cases, now you take pictures of where you found them.
You catalog them in evidence envelopes so you can't tamper with them, right?
You seal the envelope, you sign the envelope.
It then comes back with you in custody, and it goes back typically, well, in the Secret Service, to an evidence vault, which is a big like bank safe in the office.
To go in the evidence vault, you have to sign in.
To sign out the evidence, you have to sign out the specific piece of evidence.
How the hell do you lose evidence in a case this big?
alex jones
Is it lost?
dan bongino
Was it lost, if you get what I mean?
I don't know.
I'm just telling you, I've never seen evidence.
You know what I did see in evidence lost?
Seriously, sadly, during 9-11, our office was in 7 World Trade Center, the Secret Service office.
7 World Trade came down.
I promise we lost a lot of evidence.
That's the only time I've ever seen evidence lost.
Here's another thing I want to address.
Someone sent me an email suite.
You know, hey, Dan, remember that thing you'd mentioned a while ago about Epstein and the plane and Clinton?
Yeah.
Like, when are you going to break that?
I said, break what?
I told you.
It's not my story.
I can't say this enough.
This is why sometimes I regret saying things on my show.
It's not because I regret saying it.
It's because people don't understand it.
And I answer emails for a year when I'm clear as day about what happened.
It's not you.
It's just a limited number of people.
But the audience-free, if even one person is upset, it bothers me.
I'll say this clearly.
I have a friend of mine who called me a long time ago, who was on a plane with Epstein and Clinton, was there and saw some very suspicious, shady stuff.
It's his, I don't have any more details.
He said, one day, get back to me and tell me the full story or give me permission to run with at least the minimal details I have.
He hasn't since.
So it's not my, there's nothing I can do.
I can't force him into it.
It's not my information to give up.
I'm not going to talk to you about details I don't have.
But he did give me permission to tell you that.
That it was odd, very odd what happened.
And it bothered him forever.
I'm not trying to be cryptic or the story.
The guy's credibility is unimpeachable.
roger stone
Believe me.
dan bongino
But the exact details I can't give you because I don't have them.
roger stone
He does.
dan bongino
One of these days, I'm sure I'll put him out.
And when he does, we'll be here to give it to you.
But I assure you, that conversation happened.
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You just heard the Dan Bongino Show.
The Dan Bongino Show.
alex jones
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So good luck.
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Well, the guests I like to have on have track records, have integrity, and have been proven right over and over and over again.
And Kyle Seraphin is right up there at the top of the list, along with O'Boyle, one of his colleagues who's also one of the huge whistleblowers.
While we knew that they were hiding the 14 terabytes of child rape and the rest of it at the New York offices, and then, of course, Pamboni did rate it.
Cash Patel did rate it.
These guys all broke that days before it came out.
Kyle Seraphin, the Kyle Seraphin Show, got locals.com, Kyle Seraphin on X, Kyle SeraphinShow.com on Rumble, Rumble.com forward slash Kyle Seraphin.
Roger Stone is coming up in about 55 minutes from now.
And more.
So you got here just a little while ago.
You didn't really hear much of what I had to say.
We just talked on text this morning.
You said, I woke up, I saw your text from last night and this morning, hey, told you we're getting nothing.
You told me privately that three, four months ago.
You publicly said that last time you were on.
You've got a lot of contacts, obviously, of what's really happening.
The larger issue here is when a few months ago, Cash Patel and Dan Mongino, the director and deputy director, went on Fox and then on other shows, part of a tour, blow your feet off, credibility-wise tour, saying, oh, no, he killed himself.
And we're going to show the video.
And, you know, there's really no file.
There's really no nothing.
And, oh, yeah, you know, the shooter at Butler act alone, which, of course, the public knows the facts.
We clearly know that's BS.
So why would they then do that and then now do it again and totally contradict the DOJ and their statements and the 14 terabytes that they did send out, you confirmed to the offices around the country, a 180 here that you predicted would happen.
Kyle Serafin, from your own research, from your sources, what do you really believe is going on here?
kyle seraphin
I think that the same people that are inside the FBI that are desperately attempting to hold on to the FBI are doing a great job of it.
That's what they, you know, their entire life, their entire administrative career is going to hinge on doing the thing that they're doing.
They're isolating the guys that are in there.
You know, I think that we should be honest that Cash and Dan are not the same person.
They don't have the same motivations.
When you assess somebody, Alex, for source work, you find out the way that you're going to lean on them.
Some people are motivated by patriotism.
You say, hey, your country needs you.
We need you to do this thing.
And people jump up and they do that.
Some people are motivated by money.
Some people are motivated by power.
There's all these different little triggers that we find.
And when you're out there trying to run sources, that's what you do.
You've got an entire agency that is dedicated not to law enforcement the way people think.
It's at least 60%, maybe more captured by the Intel component of the FBI.
That's the legacy of 9-11.
So you've got Intel people running their own kind of game here.
I think Dan is actually motivated by patriotism.
I think he was asked and he stepped up.
I think he's also motivated, unfortunately, by the kind of pride, which says he's out of his depth.
He was out of his depth and he continues to be out of his depth, but like he can't, if he was being honest about it, he'd walk away.
alex jones
And of course, you were yourself with counterterrorism espionage in the FBI.
kyle seraphin
So I did two years work in counterintelligence.
Then I worked three years on a team that did surveillance specifically, but the surveillance work we did was very focused and funded by the counterterrorism division.
So yeah, we did a lot of counterterrorism cases.
And then after that, I did criminal.
But here's the thing.
If we analyze these guys honestly, one of the biggest red flags, which I've been slowly going through my conversations, lest people think that I'm just speaking without having some background on this.
I had interactions with Dan Bongino on camera, off camera, texting fairly regularly back and forth, but we weren't like close buddies.
And same story with Cash.
I first heard, met Cash.
I got a phone call from Cash while I was standing at a playground.
I'd been kicked out of my FBI job for six months.
I didn't have a paycheck.
And he called me up and I'm standing in Payson, Arizona on a playground watching my little kids, trying to figure out the hell I'm going to do with my life because I don't have a job and I have no real idea of what the hell I'm going to do next.
alex jones
Before that, you've been an Air Force paramedic, all of it.
unidentified
Yeah.
kyle seraphin
So prior to, you know, military, then law enforcement working with the FBI, and then I go whistleblower.
I go out first on Dan Bongino's show.
We sat down for a couple hours, having never met before, had a two plus hour sort of interview.
And then, you know, now I'm in the world doing interviews trying to figure out what the heck I'm going to do next.
And I get a phone call out of the blue from a guy named Cash Patel, who I sort of knew existed in Trump's orbit, but didn't know anything about him.
And he said, I want to write you a check.
I want to write you a check for $10,000.
And I said, well, that's really, it's really gracious and I appreciate it, but I think there must be people who need it more than me.
There's got to be, you know, like I'm not that desperate.
My kids are going to keep eating.
I just don't know what I'm going to do.
And he goes, no, I want to, and I, and I must have turned it down five times.
He said, I have money that is meant for people like you that are going up against the government.
Can I write you a check?
I said, you know, as long as you help out other people too.
He goes, I don't know all the other people.
I know of you.
So let's do this.
So he agreed to, you know, he sent me a check from the fight with Cash Foundation.
It's not out of his pocket.
It's from the foundation.
Ended up helping Garrett O'Boyle, who you mentioned earlier, ended up helping Steve Friend, who's a friend of mine as well, another whistleblower.
All of this goes on.
alex jones
Creating his bona fides as a guy that's going to fight the deepest.
kyle seraphin
As a good guy.
Yeah.
Like, no, who does that?
Calls you out of the blue and says, I want to support you with 10 grand out of nowhere.
And it was awesome.
It's a nice thing to do.
We continued on in a private sort of relationship where we've got text messages.
When Trump won, he reached out to me and those guys and was like, how do I get this job?
But the one thing that I haven't said a Whole lot about Alex, which actually is really alerting, is when we were talking about him, we're like, are you the top contender for the FBI job?
Because we wanted him in the FBI because we knew him.
alex jones
And he said, I'll take CIA or FBI.
kyle seraphin
He said, I'll take CIA or FBI.
And we both know those are not the same job.
They're not even related.
alex jones
Absolutely.
And again, the problem is the intelligence agencies have taken everything over.
And that's what you're getting at.
kyle seraphin
Even bigger than that, Cash Patel wanted to be a guy in the Trump administration, period.
That was his goal.
He has achieved his goal.
He's where he wants to be.
So that's a different kind of motivation than Dan saying, I want to serve the country.
And I don't necessarily want to.
alex jones
Sure, I understand you're doing it at the point-blank range level, assessing these men.
Larger, let's just move on up to Pam Bondi and Trump.
Pam Bondi says, okay, I learned they have this.
Rate it, get it, send it out.
That to me is loading the gun for the Trump administration to basically blackmail the deep state.
All right, we're not going to release this because it's so damaging and can bring down the country.
But now you're working for us.
And now I see major signs that the deep state is rolling over to Trump on a lot of fronts, though I think in time they'll stab him in the back.
But that's my approximation here.
And this is a serious 180.
So I want your view, just as a citizen, a father, a husband.
The disaster level on the public fallout, and we'll play all these videos in a moment, of saying, yeah, we got 14 terabytes of kids getting raped, hundreds of new victims.
They're all going down.
You got the U.S. attorneys on TV saying it.
You got Pambody saying it in press conferences four or five months ago.
And then crickets.
And you said, no, I've talked to my sources.
These were sent to the offices, but nobody's been put on it.
So to me, that's loading the gun, cocking it to the deep state's head, and the administration using the blackmail file like J.E.G.R.
Hoover would do in the past.
Or we know the controller that the FBI threw the CIA liaisons and Obama and Brennan was Comey and then his daughter and all the rest of it.
So to me, that's not even, I think, my opinion.
That's what this is.
And I'm not defending it.
I think overall it's terrible.
It's dancing with the devil.
What do you think?
kyle seraphin
I think they got rolled.
And I think Owen actually said it yesterday on X and it was exactly spot on.
These guys would have been better saying nothing and hoping Americans forgot about this than doing the thing that just got done.
alex jones
Well, I mean, they joined.
I mean, they have now joined as accessories after the fact now to this because you can't say we've got 14 terabytes of kids getting raped, hundreds of new victims and all these people in Epstein doing it.
You can't say that, and it's true, and then say, actually, there's nothing.
I mean, this is, this is, how could they get the credibility of an already tattered FBI and DOJ to commit public political suicide, Kyle?
kyle seraphin
You do it by, you do it because they are running the show.
The people that are actually, the ones that we are thinking are problematic are the ones that are still running this.
You know, they just promoted the number three guy.
By the way, we're not getting any press releases right now for the most transparent organization or a transparent, what do they call it, administration in history.
We're not getting any promotion information.
I think Trump's doing a decent job on a lot of fronts.
I think there are places where he is winning.
There are certainly policies that are getting enacted that are upsetting people and you can hear the screams about it.
But we are not seeing that.
And the Achilles heel that Trump has had has been DOJ and FBI.
And I don't know if it's because he doesn't necessarily understand what goes on there or if it's just like it's so rooted in.
alex jones
Well, well, again, I have a great crew, but if they weren't so professional and dedicated and loyal, I have no idea what they're doing across the building.
Right.
And so Trump has millions of people under him.
And I'm not trying to be an apologist for Trump.
I think you're right.
I think the jury's out.
Well, let's see what Trump does to this firestorm now because he said release it and do all this.
And now you think he knows this happened?
Because I mean, I think this has been a high-level deal.
I think he's behind it.
kyle seraphin
I think if Donald Trump wanted to see this stuff out, then he would make sure that it got out.
I think if Donald Trump doesn't care if it gets out, then it probably doesn't get out.
And if he wants it not out, then it doesn't get out.
alex jones
Well, you know why I say that?
kyle seraphin
Two out of those three mean he doesn't do it.
Let me read it.
alex jones
Well, just real fast.
There's three or four interviews.
I want your expertise.
And I've listened to you.
That's why everything you said, I know you said it before.
I'm listening, Kyle.
I respect you.
Sure.
You're giving us your intel analyst on the ground, like reporting back what you saw.
I get it.
But I want you to go up to a higher level here.
I've got clips played last hour, started the show with it, where Trump's like, a year ago, well, it might hurt some people that are innocent.
I don't know.
Yeah, we'll probably release it.
Maybe not.
And I get from that, he's like, no, I'm going to shut this down.
And I do see them shutting down a lot of the human trafficking and things, but we're thinking about using it.
Go ahead.
kyle seraphin
This is what I think is the problem.
The folks that you're relying on for your analysis, when you're in those positions, you have to have good people feeding you intel.
At least 80% of the overall intel agencies, the USIC, the United States intelligence community, they're academics.
They are left-leaning.
They think government is the answer, and they know that they're going to survive to the next administration.
They won't be bothered, especially the people.
alex jones
It's a permanent state.
kyle seraphin
Permanently, that's okay.
Permanent Washington, administrative state, deep state, they're all the same thing, right?
This is something that Machiavelli wrote.
And my buddy sent this to me.
He was an Intel analyst at DHS, sharp guy.
He said, this is coming from, this is 500-year-old information.
This is something we used to all know.
This is why every single government, when they turn over power, they exile everybody from the old government.
alex jones
And this is from the intense city-state wars where the modern political science was developed in the ultimate ongoing cloak and dagger from what is Italy today.
kyle seraphin
That's right.
No, exactly that.
And what he said is, he says, quote, he says, he then who sets out to govern the masses, whether in a free state or a principality, does not secure himself against those who are hostile to the new order, is setting up a form of government that will be but short-lived, which to me very, very clearly illustrates if you do not go after the root of the problem.
And the root of the problem is GS-14, that's your first-line supervisors in the FBI, to your mid-level SESers who are not probably named that most people will ever see, those people run that agency.
And you didn't get rid of all of them.
So they're all still running that agency, which is why you've got a guy named William Rivers, who just was made number three.
He was originally reported fired when they first took over on January 31st.
Like NBC, like, you know, clutched their pearls.
All these people are being walked out the door.
Like all these people from the administration.
And we were going like, yeah, that's what we voted for.
That's awesome.
Do that.
That guy's down to number three.
No press release.
alex jones
No, I understand.
I understand you're FBI-centric.
You're an expert on it, and it's fascinating.
kyle seraphin
But when I see what Pam Bonnie's got going on, too, what are they doing?
They're saying one thing, and They're not necessarily actually saying the opposite of each other.
They're saying things like, we have all these files and we're creating imagery that there's hundreds of thousands of files and all these videos, but you can't tell me that there's a bunch of files that show illicit material, then put the director of the FBI out on Joe Rogan saying, if there was something that was criminal, we bring it forward.
And that's how you end up.
alex jones
No, I know.
So this is what I'm trying to ask you.
kyle seraphin
Always gone the same route.
alex jones
I understand.
kyle seraphin
You've just been dancing and kicking it out like to be continued.
alex jones
But Mikhail, here's what I'm saying.
It's beyond that.
They're smart.
Even a moron would know you shut up about it if you're going to cover it up or it's too dangerous or whatever.
You can't get people to work on it because they're all scared.
Okay.
Then you don't say, we got it.
We rated it.
It's here.
It's coming out.
They're going down and have the U.S. attorneys on TV saying, oh, yeah, we got it.
They will be prosecuted.
And then now a 180, you couldn't do something more destructive and it's clearly scripted and coordinated.
So why the hell would they not just shut up?
Why would they do the most terrible thing to their credibility?
kyle seraphin
Imagine the worst people chirping in your ear, giving you the worst advice, telling you, do the thing that's going to destroy you and it's going to work out great.
What does it do?
It isolates you.
It leaves you all the people that would otherwise.
alex jones
No, no, I understand that.
kyle seraphin
And you know that the intel agencies love to see people isolated because if you've got no other friends, all you got is us.
So you got to be with us.
And now you're on our team because no one else even cares about you.
alex jones
But even when they had the firestorm in the last few months, they still went on that stupid tour.
kyle seraphin
You know, telling them, go on Fox, do another interview on Fox.
Do another interview on Fox.
And every single time do it, tell people, you know, results matter.
You're going to trust us by the work we do.
And we're going to not see any of the things that you're doing.
alex jones
Okay, so you're telling me Dan Bongino and Cash Patel are low-grade morons.
kyle seraphin
I think they're getting owned by people around them that like we've had people call from inside the meetings that they're sitting in.
Okay.
Executive meetings on the seventh floor of the Bureau.
alex jones
No, no, I know.
You showed me.
kyle seraphin
I'm telling you, there are guys that are sitting in there that have the absolute worst intention that want to see these guys isolated and humiliated in public.
That's what they want.
And they laugh about it.
alex jones
Well, I mean, let's say it.
A New York cop and then a Secret Service agent.
kyle seraphin
I saw that clip, right?
alex jones
I've been studying this for 40 years.
I've been on here 31.
And I was blessed enough to have family that had been involved in a lot of real serious stuff.
And they were telling me all of this when I'm a kid growing up.
So I guess I have to understand that Bongino clearly is just naive.
Now, I mean.
kyle seraphin
He just said on the last clip that we played, coming into the hour, he said, I was a federal agent for 11 years or whatever.
That's his time in the Secret Service.
And it's like, great.
Okay, cool.
Secret Service doesn't, by and large, do investigative work.
They're primarily an executive protection agency.
That doesn't mean that he didn't collect evidence ever.
I'm just saying credibility of.
alex jones
No, he's just been dumped at the highest levels of international shark tank.
kyle seraphin
Correct.
And he left the Secret Service in 2011.
So the man has not been in government.
alex jones
And like you said, they use a lot of how they do the president's constant crisis briefings to keep him off balance.
kyle seraphin
I think that is exactly what he talks about.
Yeah, no, this is the thing.
He said that he was getting meetings saying that there need to be FISA signed like at all hours.
You keep people sleep-defined.
You keep them thinking that there's constant crisis and danger.
If Dan Bongino actually believes that the FBI is constantly thwarting terrorist activity.
alex jones
Yeah, they get him to buy into the hysteria, and that's how they control people.
kyle seraphin
Nobody believes in the legend of the FBI more than the FBI.
And FBI agents are told that from day one.
alex jones
So let me ask you this then.
We've covered this.
You're dead on, but larger issue.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, go bigger.
alex jones
I'm not letting Trump out of this, okay?
It's not about attacking Trump.
I haven't turned on Trump.
I'm very pragmatic.
I understand history.
And I've read hundreds of books on intelligence.
All of it's fascinating.
Clearly, I know their methodology.
This is the CIA comes and says, Mr. President, this was a network.
It's a former project.
You've killed it.
But in the Massad's involved, this will bring down the whole system.
We have to do it.
It's been shut off and blah, blah, blah.
That's bare minimum.
I believe the signs I've seen.
Trump said, no, okay, fine.
We'll now use this against him.
But that's all the deep state is blackmailed.
But that's not going to be done through Cash and Bondi, who I can see badly coordinated what they're doing during the headlights, that they're basically just placeholders for Fox News and for PR.
And then it is, it is the intelligence agencies that are now doing this.
And they've come to Trump, who is sophisticated, and Trump has decided to use the Ring of Mordor.
I mean, I'm sure that's what this is.
kyle seraphin
I can't refute it because I don't know.
I have no evidence that says yes or no to any of those things, but it's not terrible analysis.
It's certainly not like it's a possibility for sure.
And the Ring of Mordor, that's the danger that we keep seeing people do.
They want to use the thing that cannot be used because they didn't capture that administrative state that we just talked about.
All the people that are doing the briefings, all the people that are actually going to be the mechanisms that do that, you know, they're not going to do it.
I do agree with you that this has been a PR nightmare.
I do agree that the people that are running this are getting left to hold the bag.
alex jones
Well, let's be clear.
Kyle, Kyle, Kyle.
Even the most worshipful accounts of Trump, like Cat Turd, are like, this is horrible.
kyle seraphin
Well, what are you going to do?
They've been saying one thing, and this is the best part.
Like my buddy just goes through and he just does like searches for this stuff and he just sends them over to me.
We have a group chat that is literally, it's all the MAGA influencer types.
They all have have to, they've owned themselves in the last three months because every single one of them got the same messaging.
And that's maybe the thing that I thought was, this is why I knew we weren't going to get anything.
I actually got the, I got the advanced tip because I keep track of what Steve Bannon and Julie Kelly says.
My fallout with Dan Bongino happened because of a woman named Julie Kelly, who's married to one of the top Democrat lobbyists in the state of Illinois.
The craziest thing was is she said right up front, I'm not interested in Epstein.
I don't care about what happened there.
Everybody got away with it.
The minute that happened, I was like, oh, you're just giving up the game here.
Sometimes people do actually tell us in advance what's going to happen.
It just seems like the other influencers probably didn't have access to that information as quickly.
We have the clip.
I mean, you guys can see it for yourself.
alex jones
How long ago was it that they raided the New York offices and got the 14 terabytes?
kyle seraphin
Well, they didn't raid anything.
jesse watters
Yeah.
alex jones
They grabbed it.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, so this was always sitting in the FBI.
That was when Denny.
alex jones
I call it a raid because he wouldn't give it up.
kyle seraphin
I want to say that was in March.
alex jones
Oh, yeah, it was in mid-March.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, so 30, 40 days on the job.
alex jones
And O'Boyle broke it all.
He said, no, my people are in New York.
They've let her know.
She's been giving fake stuff.
She's going to put a cover letter on.
He broke it like a day before it was, you know, and then you said, Yeah, no, it's been sent out to the FBI now a few weeks later, but then a few weeks later, we're talking on the phone and going, Yeah, they're doing nothing.
So you said, No, nothing's going to happen.
So I'm going to ask again, why would they send it out if you're going to cover it up?
You don't send it out.
Why do you say, Oh, we've got it in press conferences and then now say there's nothing that is like it's it's it's that'd be like me.
Yeah, and I agree with you but it'd be like me calling up a rental place and saying, send me an industrial wood chipper and I plug the son of a bitch in and I climb in it.
I mean, yeah.
Sorry, I'm just, I can't handle it.
kyle seraphin
I just, I just it's it's mind-blowing, except if you're constantly getting run around by other people.
alex jones
In the bubble.
kyle seraphin
In the bubble.
We call it bubble wrapping.
I mean, that's actually the term.
I've heard that term used by Chris Ray before on conferences.
alex jones
Well, you know, they call it the Pentagon, the White House.
We're in the bubble.
It means, you know, it's a bubble.
kyle seraphin
Sure.
And that was Dan Boncino's book about it, too, actually.
He wrote a whole book about being in there.
alex jones
I just, I need Trump to succeed.
God, you know, the Democrats get back in, they're going to put me in prison for sure.
So I'm in this paradox where Trump showed all this other great stuff.
And then there's this.
kyle seraphin
This is the most dangerous thing.
When people get upset with me for the way that I call it, like, first of all, it's not good for me.
It's not good for you.
We've both shared that we've had subpoenas from these people.
alex jones
They've got to take, I want to beat the new state.
I'm not looking for a fight.
I just can't, I just can't lie.
unidentified
Right.
kyle seraphin
So imagine if you wanted to discredit somebody, what would be better than having them go out, talk about 10,000 hours of files, talk about children being raped, and then immediately come back and say, no indictments, no lists, no clients.
alex jones
No, I agree.
I agree.
So I want to go.
I can go to these Republican events.
I got anyone I want.
I want to walk up and ask Bongino, what the hell are you?
Or Cash Patel, like you've done the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
If you're going to cover it up, just shut up.
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Kyle Serafin, high-level FBI whistleblower, totally vindicated so much of the corruption we know about in the last few years because of this guy, other heroes like O'Boyle, who still hasn't gotten his job back from the Trump administration, though they all told him what a hero he was and he is.
We're not here bitching, but we've got to have our integrity and just tell the truth.
You were telling me during the break, I was like, hey, what's going on?
Your phone's blowing up.
You're saying your colleagues in the government, out of the government, they're just freaking out right now.
dan bongino
Yeah.
kyle seraphin
I mean, like, nobody would expect you to do a meltdown thing on this.
At the end of the day, you're exactly right.
And like I said, I once said it yesterday and I agreed with it.
Like, why would you even touch this?
Just leave it alone.
This is such low-hanging fruit.
You can't go out and make all these claims.
You can't go out there and spend four years or eight years on podcasts and interviews.
I had somebody say that the guys were like that Bongino and Patel were not campaigning, but they were campaigning.
One of them wanted to get a job.
The other one was campaigning on behalf of Trump.
alex jones
So this is a massive campaign promise broken.
kyle seraphin
The whole point was transparency, protect children.
These are universal values that Americans hold.
Like even people who I don't agree with politically, if you think that kids are, you know, that this can happen to kids or you're okay with wealthy people getting a different set of justice, like if they get to have a different court system or things like that.
alex jones
It means they're above the law.
And it means if you study history, it's going to get worse and we're all in danger.
And then you ask, what else are they about to sell out on?
kyle seraphin
It's just everything about it.
Like I said, not talking about it would have been infinitely worse.
alex jones
When you learn this, how did you feel?
I guess you already knew it and said it was going to happen.
I literally got, I don't get nauseous easily.
I got nauseous this morning.
When I was shooting a video on it, I literally almost threw up because it's just, I need Trump to succeed.
And, you know, it's bad.
kyle seraphin
That's horrible.
It's a gut punch.
It's the same.
Look, I just expect this.
I have such a negative, pessimistic thing.
I am rarely let down.
So this is kind of like, got it.
Okay.
That's the worst case scenario.
That's what I was.
alex jones
And you're being proven tonight because I know that nobody wants to.
But Talon Bongino have attacked you to the Senate.
The Senate said they're full of crap.
So the behind the scenes turned on you and said you're not a good source.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, no, they actually.
So there's been some Intel leaks going on in the back end.
We've got back channel folks that are paying attention to what's happening in DC.
And quietly it is being shopped around by the Bureau that guys like me and O'Boyle and Steve Friend and Marcus Allen, that we were all like known.
We had character issues.
And look, we did.
I was talking to a former FBI agent on the way down here before I pulled in, Alex.
And he said, isn't it crazy what they make you jump through to become an FBI agent?
And I know it's the case for other government jobs as well that are in similar positions of responsibility or you get similar kind of read-ins.
And they make it really, really hard.
They make you jump through all these hoops.
I had a call on a Wednesday in 2016, in June of 2016.
I had a call on a Wednesday and they said, Can you be at Quantico to start your class on Sunday?
We know we didn't give you any warning.
We know we told you that you weren't going to be up for a class for three months.
Can you drop everything and be here in three years?
alex jones
It's all a test.
kyle seraphin
Yeah.
The answer is, will you say yes when we ask you to say yes over and over again?
And overwhelmingly, people do.
And so the minute you start saying yes, a lot of people just stay with it.
Then they realize how long they work to get there.
Most of the people in my class that were going through the Academy at Quantico spent two years plus, maybe three or four, trying to become an FBI agent.
By the time you get it, you're so happy to be there.
alex jones
Absolutely.
So it's all interesting, but I want to get back to this.
kyle seraphin
It's the same problem for a lot of these government jobs.
alex jones
I want to get back to this.
This is an unmitigated disaster.
We need Trump's agenda to succeed.
Right when everything's succeeding, they do something like this.
And you talk about the Bondi and Patel and all of them, but not just when they were out of government, when they got into government six, seven months ago, saying all this and now doing a violent bat turn 180.
This is so insane.
I mean, again, I could not cook up in my brain, if I wanted to discredit the FBI and the Trump administration, which I don't want to do, I want to reform it and fix this stuff.
I could not come up with a more fabulous way to be self-destructive.
So let's go to some of these.
kyle seraphin
Let me grab one more to you because it just happened the other day.
They just got the big, beautiful bill passed, right?
Which I'm not the biggest fan of, but like, so what?
Like, it's not about me.
There's a big tent.
Other people like it.
Fine.
One of the biggest pieces is $150 billion towards ICE and doing immigration enforcement, which is what I want.
I just, I'm not crazy about all the money we're going to be spending.
End of the day, what does he do?
The first thing he does, he goes out and has a public appearance and he says, we're also going to look for amnesty for people who have been here that are working in farms and working in hotels.
If you wanted to discredit something, you don't go and turn back on the thing where over 55, 56% of Americans have said, yeah, everybody that's here illegally is breaking a law and they should all go away.
So the discrediting is not just happening on this one front.
There's a couple of things, and I don't know who's writing that speech, but I know that when you're talking about the same thing.
alex jones
Yeah, but I mean, Trump's getting complaints from his constituents about farm workers.
I get it.
Why would you even say that?
Even if you're going to do that, which he always says, by the way, they want to just clamp down first, get control, then make it all be legal.
They're creating a process.
But I get that.
That isn't even on the same scale as we got 14 terabytes of Epstein, hundreds of kids getting raped, and it's all coming out.
And you watch and just shut up.
It'll take time, but it's going to happen.
I'll play the clips in a moment.
And then, nope, none of that's true.
I mean, that is just like.
kyle seraphin
But those are two exactly.
alex jones
That's like saying this jacket, Kyle, is white.
kyle seraphin
Right.
alex jones
And you're like, no, it's navy blue.
I'm like, no, it's not.
This is white.
Okay.
kyle seraphin
And you're going to do a press release about it.
alex jones
And I got full locks of hair.
And you're like, no, you're bald.
No, I don't.
And I don't, and I'm clean shaven.
I don't, I don't have a beard.
kyle seraphin
Right.
You're like, denying actual reality.
And, but the commonality between those two things is those are both layups when the American people overwhelmingly want to protect children.
Like there's not a regular person out there in the world that's like, oh, no, no, I want rich to have special justice.
I want children to be abused.
And at this point, even CNN is reporting like over half of Americans want to see people who are here illegally deported.
You don't go back on things where you are in the majority and you have the high ground.
And so seeing this, yeah, it's a lot more emotional because we're talking about children.
We're talking about real evil, objectively horrible things.
And then, yeah, they set this up for like a nosedive.
And I don't see a rational reason for it unless people are setting these people up to have them look terrible.
alex jones
That's your theory.
And I think the bubble's all true.
And I agree.
And you see the psychology in Bongino, God, I'm working 18 hours a day.
I'm exhausted.
Come on, try my best.
That's all true.
You're right about that.
But let's just cut to the chase.
My instincts are rarely wrong.
And I've got all the pieces.
It would take 10 hours to get into it all.
No, the CIA came and said, yeah, this is our operation with the Mossad.
This will bring down the government, but we can use this now on the bad guys for control.
And it's your call.
Trump made this order.
kyle seraphin
That also means that there's a new Epstein.
alex jones
Absolutely.
kyle seraphin
Yeah.
And I think that's the bigger piece that people are not necessarily talking about.
Who's the new person that's taken into that space?
Who's the new person that got co-opted in and says now you're the guy that's going to start?
alex jones
Well, there's always been a bunch of them.
So I'm sure.
So let's go to some of these clips here.
Here is just on the record.
Everybody's seen these, but I want to get them out.
We're all talking about them.
Here's clip five.
Flashback to March, Pam Bonnie on Fox saying the list was on her desk.
And then I want to skip ahead to her and her press conference in March saying, oh, yeah, we have the, you know, we, you know, we have the, I've seen the videos.
We're going to release it.
Go ahead and roll those.
And then also play 12 and 15.
Elena Haba, the U.S. attorney in New Jersey, one of the U.S. attorneys, one of the two, here she is saying, hey, it's coming out.
Don't you worry.
Just play these clips.
Here it is.
john roberts
You know, I saw your appearance at CPAC with Ben and with Ted Cruz.
And one of the things that you alluded to, and this is something Donald Trump has talked about, the DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.
Will that really happen?
pam bondi
It's sitting on my desk right now to review.
That's been a directive by President Trump.
I'm reviewing that.
I'm reviewing JFK files, MLK files.
That's all in the process of being reviewed because that was done at the directive of the president from all of these agencies.
john roberts
So have you seen anything?
You said, oh my gosh.
pam bondi
Not yet.
alex jones
Okay.
john roberts
Well, we'll check back with you.
jesse watters
You said last week that you have the Epstein files on your desk.
When can we see them and what's taking so long to release them?
pam bondi
I do.
Jesse, there are well over, this will make you sick, 200 victims.
200.
So we have, well over, over 250 actually.
So we have to make sure that their identity is protected and their personal information.
But other than that, I think tomorrow, you know, the personal information of victims, other than that, I think tomorrow, Jesse, breaking news right now, you're going to see some Epstein information being released by my Office.
jesse watters
What kind?
Are we going to see who was on the flights?
Are we going to see any evidence from what he recorded?
Because he had all of his homes wired with recording devices.
pam bondi
What you're going to see hopefully tomorrow is a lot of flight logs, a lot of names, a lot of information.
But it's pretty sick what that man did.
jesse watters
Okay.
pam bondi
Well, along with his co-defendant.
jesse watters
Absolutely.
And he had help.
That's for sure.
unidentified
James Palmer said yesterday that all the Epstein files are missing.
Can you confirm that some of them we still haven't heard from you?
pam bondi
No, no.
The FBI, yeah, the FBI, they're reviewing there are tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child porn.
And there are hundreds of victims.
And no one victim will ever get released.
It's just the volume.
And that's what they're going through right now.
The FBI is diligently going through that.
I haven't seen that statement, but I'll call him later and find out.
alex jones
Let's just stop there.
We got more clips coming.
Kyle, you got to come back later this week for like two hours.
We can do a commercial free two podcast and then Aaron Lamae show, but don't want to be not interrupted and go total deep dive here.
But again, she comes off there as if she has no idea what's going on to do that and put that out and then now stand by while this is totally 180 and totally reversed has just more than the Trump admin, if Trump is of course correct, which I'm going to talk about in a moment.
We haven't heard from him yet.
So there's time to shift this, I think.
I don't think that's going to happen.
This is obviously from the top.
They've now opened it up to make the Epstein operation Trump's and to make it Trump covering it up.
And even though it'll never come out, they'll still use that by them doing this.
And this is going to create a huge scandal.
I now predict in Congress for the Democrats with her statements about the videos and kids being raped and hundreds of victims.
And now they're saying it's not existing, but we know it does.
You talk to the FBI people, the files are there.
This, they have been, it goes back to what you said.
They're being set up with the deep state.
This is insane.
kyle seraphin
Yeah.
And listen, listen to the way that Bondi even answered those questions.
I don't know a lot about Pam Bondi.
I didn't live in Florida when she was the AG.
My dad did, and he didn't have like a stellar high opinion of her, but I don't think he thought she was a bad actress per se.
But you listen to her ask those questions.
She looks like she's flat-footed and she's reaching into memory from not personal experience.
She didn't go and look at this stuff.
And nor would I expect the attorney general to go look at individual evidence.
alex jones
I would.
If I was the attorney general in the biggest case ever, I'd be blue.
kyle seraphin
But you care.
We're talking about people that are there that are holding the place for politics, that she goes out and says the right thing.
She does Fox interviews and stuff like that.
Generally speaking, the AG sets policy and doesn't need to run the mechanics of the DOJ.
That's what the DAG does.
That's what the Deputy Attorney General's job is anyway, in the same way that it works in the FBI.
The deputy runs things.
So you've got this person out there and she's answering very specific questions that sounds like not from personal experience by looking at her.
She's just kind of reaching in and she's trying to remember what she was told.
So she's kind of making it up because it sounds good.
But as you said on your show the other day, that should have been a standalone press conference.
That's a bombshell to drop out and say.
And she did it in this like gaggle outside on the lawn.
So that's not yeah.
Like someone asked a question and she was like, oh, let me just give you this like crazy novel information and drop all this intel on you.
That's not how you give situations.
alex jones
Well, that's because she knew we've confirmed that O'Keefe had gotten the undercover video, was about to release it.
So that had broken three days before because I put it out.
O'Keefe wasn't clear.
He said, yeah, I'm in danger, blah, blah, blah.
It's, you know, the administration.
And I called people administration.
They said, it's Bondi.
So they already knew.
And then she did that.
That's a clear response trying to get ahead of it.
kyle seraphin
No, I agree.
She was getting ahead of it.
All that is to say that we're talking about someone there that just.
alex jones
And here's the undercover.
I agree.
Out of her depth.
Here's the undercover video, clip 12.
unidentified
Do you know when the Epstein clouds are going to get released?
pam bondi
We hope soon.
unidentified
Okay, so.
No, you know what it is for smoothies and thousands of videos.
pam bondi
Yeah, and it's all for little kids.
So they have to go through every one.
alex jones
Yeah, you want to go to Axios, which we know is a CIA mouthpiece.
I mean, what you're about to say, but that means the mouth of the system here in a minute.
But here's Elena Haba, the U.S. attorney.
And she's gotten really, I like her.
Prashnicketty, yo, don't you worry.
We've got it.
And there's hundreds of victims and we're on it and we're processing the cases.
So you've got them saying we're processing it.
It's true.
We've got it.
You confirmed it been sent out to the different districts.
And then now none of it exists.
I mean, this is a scandal upon scandal upon scandal.
Here it is.
alina habba
But in this case, in Epstein's case, it is incredibly disturbing.
We have flight logs.
We have information names that will come out.
unidentified
Is it going to be shocking?
alina habba
I don't see how it's not shocking that there were so many individuals that were hidden and kept secret and not been held accountable.
Let's talk about the reverse.
I believe in accountability.
So you have to now go through your process.
Now, I won't say they're guilty until they go through their time in court.
But again, now it's time for accountability.
We have seen for so many years, Pierce, in this country, many investigations, subpoenas, testimonies in Congress, et cetera, et cetera.
But there's a general frustration with accountability.
We take it halfway.
We don't take it home.
And I really believe that now with Cash and Pam, there will be accountability.
alex jones
And then since then, she's come out and said, people are mad at us.
I'm investigating it.
I've seen it.
I'm getting them.
Well, can you imagine her now in front of Congress if the Democrats get back in control in a year and a half?
I mean, they're going to be front and center.
Okay, what did you see?
I mean, this is a disaster.
kyle seraphin
It's, yeah, unmitigated.
And how much hay was made on Fox and other like conservative leaning outlets talking about this very thing.
I watched a Jesse Waters clip that I played this morning on my own podcast, and he was talking about the connections from Obama's CIA director or former deputy to state, and then went into Biden and was working.
Like these people were all connected.
We're hearing about, she just said, a bunch of shadowy figures, tons of money, tons of power, tons of connections.
Everyone should be shocked when they find out about it.
We're going to find out that there are, what is it again?
Oh, yeah, no prosecutions.
There's no client list.
They weren't able to decide if there was anybody involved in the future.
alex jones
I got famous Cash Patel.
I want to find the clip.
I couldn't find the story.
kyle seraphin
It's such an ugly setup to knock these people down.
I do want to hammer into the Axios thing, though, because I do think that's relevant.
alex jones
Go ahead.
kyle seraphin
Alex, they didn't take this meeting.
So you have to understand the backstory here.
When Cash was trying to get into the position of director, when he was working through the confirmation process, one of the things he was most worried about was people that he could trust.
So he was talking to me about people that I knew in the Bureau.
I said, look, the people I trust in the Bureau are GS-13s.
They're frontline agents that work criminal cases that don't care about Intel.
They're not interested in doing politics.
Those are the people that do the work of the FBI.
So I don't have a problem with those.
I would recommend them to you all day long, but they don't necessarily know what the shenanigans are that are going on in the senior management.
And he said, you know, I'm really worried about leaks.
I'm worried about people that can be trusted.
I worried about people that are on the team.
And the guy that I recommended that he hire for deputy director, who he ended up ghosting, which was not a great move, that guy explained to Cash that leaks to the press are a tool of the FBI director.
And people need to understand this.
They happened under Comey.
They happened under Ray.
alex jones
Of course.
kyle seraphin
They happened under McCabe.
You choose the outlet you go to and you give them exclusive access.
And you're also choosing the audience that's going to receive it.
And you're going to choose the audience that's going to hate what they got.
alex jones
And then look at Adam.
And Comey lied to Congress, said, I never leaked those letters.
Well, I gave it to the head of this.
kyle seraphin
It was a friend who gave it to a friend that made it happen.
Look, leaks are a tool of the director.
They have the discretion to declassify things and to hand things out.
Whether they do it through official channels or otherwise, it is within their job description to do so.
They can't lie to Congress about it, but they can do all kinds of shady stuff handing and disseminating information.
When you give something to Axios today, when there's a quote unquote conservative majority and the people that it's our team is in the FBI, what you're saying is you want not Fox News to trumpet it.
Fox News was out there doing what you just saw.
They were talking to Lena Haba and they were talking about how bad this was.
Now you've got the other side.
The left is it.
So it looks like there's a subversive element within the FBI that's leaking it and it's doing it to discredit what's ever happening.
The fun thing is you've got all the MAGA influencers.
You've got all the people on the right that are going to attack and say, well, that must be fake news because it's Axios and ABC that are running.
alex jones
Oh, yeah.
And that was the talking point.
And that was the talking point I saw this morning when I got up.
kyle seraphin
That is what the, what the.
alex jones
It was, oh, Elon Musk and the left are running this.
kyle seraphin
Correct.
It now.
alex jones
But now, but now, because first it comes from Axios, but then an hour later, no, it's actually the DOJ official.
Correct.
But still it gives them the cover to say.
kyle seraphin
The original story still holds.
It came out of your SEO.
So obviously this was a push.
What you haven't seen is some agency on the right come out, and I haven't seen a press conference or anyone come out and talk about it.
They're hoping this fizzled out under its own weight is my guess.
But as you said, it's catastrophically stupid, and it's the worst possible outcome that you're going to say.
There's a paragraph in that memo release that says there'll be no prosecutions, no additional co-conspirators.
There was no blackmail operation after literally years of the people who are running those organizations talking about those.
alex jones
Yeah, I mean, it's such a, again, a person with an ADIQ would know, just shut up if you're going to cover it up.
So, again, only thing that makes sense is they made a deal with the deep state to roll over.
They won't prosecute, but they'll stop trying to kill Trump.
But they went, okay, well, fine.
We want this.
It's cut and dry.
We want you to come out and say it's over.
A deal was made.
I think that's the only logical thing here.
And then obviously Patel and Bongino and Bondi are just placeholders, like you said.
And Trump's made a deal with the deep state.
kyle seraphin
Now, here's my question.
alex jones
Howard see if Trump will actually stop what the globalists are doing.
kyle seraphin
Well, take that further.
What happens to the three that are heading those agencies that now just have the most egg on their face?
What happened?
alex jones
You predicted to me privately, I don't know if you want to say it now, that they're all being set up to hung up to drive very soon.
kyle seraphin
Perhaps.
I don't know anybody that can look at it and say these guys are.
alex jones
Well, you did tell me that about three.
I don't want to give away what you want to say.
kyle seraphin
That's true.
I think Bongino's gone by the end of the year.
I think that was true before this.
alex jones
Well, you think other things too.
kyle seraphin
I think that Patel doesn't make it past midterms if they decide to switch over.
But I also see that Patel is actually kind of useful.
He's actually kind of fitting into the role of FBI director, which is a guy that flies around on a jet and defends the FBI vigorously, doesn't do anything in particular that we're hoping he does, and takes credit for things the FBI always does and gets them a new building.
By the way, they're moving to the Reagan building.
I don't know if people saw that.
You guys probably covered this the other day.
That's not what we said.
The whole idea was to decentralize it out of DC.
alex jones
Not got a bigger building.
kyle seraphin
Not to go move into a bigger building down the street.
That puts you in the exact same problem.
The reason that DC is problematic to have the FBI, the DOJ, and Washington field office in the same area is because FBI senior officials start, they need a certain amount of time in the field as a manager.
Then they need a certain amount of time at headquarters as a program manager.
Then they need some time back as a more senior manager.
Then they need a more senior program.
And they bounce back and forth.
They don't even have to move, Alex.
They can live in the outside of D.C. They live in Alexandria.
A lot of them do.
alex jones
Sure.
And they can get them in the cult.
kyle seraphin
They spend 12 years.
alex jones
All right, so we're almost out of time here.
We're going to do five more months before Roger Stone comes on after the break.
But again, I got so much other big news.
Fourth hour, I'll get into all the things we haven't covered.
Like the head of Nato saying World War III could begin any day.
I mean, this is just nuts.
But this is about the heart and soul of America and Trump.
And I am a very decisive person.
Everything to me is very clear-cut of what the best information is, the right thing to do.
It's what I do.
It's a very freeing thing in my life.
That said, Trump is doing so much good.
And I know the globalists hate him.
And I'm seeing real action against a lot of evil that I don't ever in my life been this mentally pulled trying to find out what the right position and action is.
Other than just, I'm just saying what I'm thinking here, just open book kind of war gaming.
Because Kyle, I don't know.
I mean, I've reached my limit at this point.
kyle seraphin
There's two really, really dangerous animals that exist in our federal government's dollars and going into those establishments.
One is our military industrial complex.
There's unbelievable amounts of money that are insane, you know, that can make people move mountains to do.
alex jones
And they're super dangerous and they come after your family.
kyle seraphin
And you've got people like Hag Seth that seem to have that idea.
You've got people that are like Tulsi Gabber that understand what it is, what goes on, and they seem to be making some headway, although they are obviously going to face resistance.
But the other animal that's really dangerous, I call it the information industrial complex, but that is your intelligence agencies and the private agencies that are out there, whether it be your big tech and others that are dealing in info.
Those groups are the second or the most dangerous.
Take your pick.
alex jones
Oh, yeah.
Everybody thinks of a fancy CI agent as powerful.
No, it's the contractors.
It's the big tech.
It has a palantir all day.
Yeah, it's the new kid on the block.
Okay.
I'm not even defending it.
It's not the big Tyrannosaurus here.
It's a Velociraptor.
kyle seraphin
That your Intel agencies can only do certain things, that your law enforcement entities can only do some things as limited power.
Stand there.
alex jones
Let's do five more minutes on that.
I want you to finish up.
unidentified
You're back.
alex jones
But again, my whole thing about the media is attacking Palantir because it's trying to get in the key position.
I'm not saying it's good.
I'm saying what the fight is.
And exactly, it's like, oh, the deep state and surveillance and the police state just started.
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I don't turn, tell, and run, but I'm not going to sit here and be stupid.
If they're able to stop the Trump agenda and the Democrats are about to get in three and a half years, I'm leaving the country.
All right, so I need Trump to succeed.
At the same time, I can't go along with evil, and I just can't do it.
So, Kyle, in closing here, final comments, but I just want to say that if Trump didn't give these orders, which I've speculated, I believe he did, and that they bet a deal behind the scenes or whatever, because this information is too damaging to destroy the country or whatever.
And I see that argument, I'm not endorsing it.
If he hasn't done this, while we've had Bondi and Pattell and all them, really cash, hyping this up for months and now putting out this ridiculous report that 180 was already on record and makes the Trump administration complicit in the CIA Mossad Epstein operation, if Trump doesn't come out and say this is wrong or reverse this, then he is complicit.
And I'm just processing what I'm going to have to do.
You got three and a half minutes.
Go ahead.
kyle seraphin
Yeah.
Well, we were talking just before the break.
It's the information industrial complex.
That's the second thing that I think is the second most lethal.
And sometimes it is the most lethal compared to the military industrial complex.
That's the information brokers.
That's going to be your big tech companies.
People think that Palantir, you mentioned that earlier, is going to be the big danger.
I mean, consider this.
Most of the government is housed using Microsoft software.
Almost all of it is done on Amazon web server.
alex jones
Trasbezos.
We're talking about the-you're covering Palantir.
No, I'm not.
There's a thousand-pound gorilla and a 20-pound monkey.
I'm going to tell you the gorilla.
kyle seraphin
The gorilla is significantly more scary.
And the people that have all the information on you, the Googles, the alphabets, the metas, et cetera, like they've got so much.
It's not even funny.
The things that they, they are the wet dream of what the Intel community wishes they could gather on the American people for whatever it's worth.
All the collections that are going on out there on the Intel services, they can just buy it the same way that anybody who has the money can buy it from these private groups.
alex jones
Not just like Dinesh D'Souza.
It's a good thing we did, but it shows up.
He goes and spends $100,000 in key cities in Pennsylvania and shows the Democrats with the safe houses, with the mules delivering the fake ballots.
kyle seraphin
And remember, he was lampooned as being unscientific and all of his methodology was terrible and it didn't make any sense and then turned around and they used the exact same geofense capabilities with a slightly different, more sophistication in warrants.
And they went and got Jay Sixers.
So all of this stuff is the same animal.
alex jones
And we know that 9% of people at AOC Bernie rallies are the same people because of it.
No, it's total science.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, it's not negotiable.
Like people can tell, they can literally tell who you are, what level of education you have, how tall you are, how fast you walk, whether or not you have an injury, left-handed or right-handed, eye dominance, you name it.
All of these things can be, they can find out from the way that you hold your phone, the way you use your phone, and you carry it with you everywhere.
I do the same thing.
So I'm no better.
I do carry a little security bag with me because I throw it in there.
But at the end of the day, yeah, you're tracking yourself.
You're giving this information away.
If you do not de-weaponize the agencies that are using that data, the agencies that are interested in pursuing their own agenda, and they'll set up anybody who's at the top, it doesn't matter.
You give them a private chat.
You give them a security detail.
You let them live fancy and they feel like they're big shots and you fluff their ego.
You do that kind of thing.
Those guys fall in line.
alex jones
And they throw super ultra-gorgeous women at you.
kyle seraphin
Do you know what the first thing that happened when Cash Patel moved into his office per the CNN story?
He redecorated.
This is a guy that already announced that they were going to get a new building in under four months and they're already moving out of it.
He redecorated the building.
So he wanted new carpet.
He wanted new wall hangings, et cetera, et cetera.
These people.
alex jones
That doesn't.
I mean, if I was in there, I'd be sleeping on the floor like Elon.
I would be not worried about the drapes.
But that's the thing.
This shows what Elon learned about a few months ago, and I think it adds credibility to him.
kyle seraphin
I agree.
alex jones
I think he went, whoa, I'm not part of this.
kyle seraphin
I'm not into a lot of the things that Elon's into.
I don't like Neuralink or any of the things like that.
I don't think that we shame the certain values as a Christian that he has as whatever, like a secular human.
But I think his principles seem pretty convincing.
It's like, okay, he wants to see a lack of government waste.
He wanted to see some success.
That didn't happen.
If Trump doesn't de-weaponize our DOJ and by extension, the two agencies that work there that are most dangerous, if he doesn't de-weaponize our FBI, we're screwed with that.
I mean, that's the thing.
alex jones
I totally agree.
Kyle, as you learn more, come back tomorrow or the next day.
You pick the time.
Roger Stone's coming up.
Thank you so much, Carl Servivan.
All right.
This just broke minutes ago.
We're getting the local news feeds right now.
Breaking three federal and Texas law enforcement sources are now reporting an active shooter with a rifle and tactical gear ambush Border Patrol agents as they arrived at a Border Patrol annex facility in McCallan, Texas this morning.
Local police and federal agents returned fire, killing him.
I'm told this was purposeful ambush attack style against the federal agents and a press conference is planned for later.
No federal agents injured.
I'm told McCallum police officer may have been shot, but is in stable conditions.
And these are photos from law enforcement sources.
Probably a communist or an anti-vote.
I'm telling you, man, this is going to get bad.
So we've got that information.
We're texting with Roger Stone.
He's going to connect it right now.
We'll be going to him in a moment.
I'm rarely wrong.
And it takes me a lot of data to be able to come to these conclusions.
And again, we've already covered a lot of it.
It would take days to go over it all.
It would take days for me just to remember it all.
But that's what knowledge is.
You just have it.
I believe in Trump.
I love Trump.
I understand what Trump's doing.
I don't agree with it completely.
I talked to Roger before the election and he said, it's the CIA.
It's Mossad.
We all know that.
They're going to come to Trump and say it's going to bring down the federal government.
You can't release this information.
When Trump's saying, I'm going to release it.
Then he has Bonnie and all of them saying, okay, we got it.
We rated it.
We got it.
We're going to release it.
And then now they do a 180.
You don't do a PR disaster like that unless that was part of a deal with the deep state of the rollover to make sure that Trump would never use it against them to say it's over.
It's put away.
It's done.
And that means the king of England and the deal with the most powerful empire still in the world financially is those people.
And that means getting all these other groups on board.
And if Trump brought out all this child rape and the 14 terabytes of kids getting raped and the hundreds of victims, it would demonize America Worldwide, actually, the elites.
I believe justice be done though the heavens fall.
So that's easier for me because I just do what I believe is right, what the Holy Spirit tells me is right, and I do it.
And that's why they want me off the air because they know this guy's a loose cannon.
He will go matter, put a gun to my head.
I'm not going to tell a lie.
I'm not going to.
And it's because I love the truth.
Now, have I lied about fooling around?
Yeah, I mean, stuff like that.
But I don't lie on big issues that actually matter, that affect other people.
The left always like, Jones is a hypocrite.
He admits to paying for probably 10 abortions, but he's against it.
No, when I was younger and didn't know and I really believed it was a blob of tissue, I haven't paid for an abortion since I was 18 years old.
I tell the story to say, I've done bad things because I'm going to be truthful.
And it's an example to you that you can reprove yourself and you can come back from hell as well through the blood of Christ.
So I love Trump.
Ebel hates him.
They're coming after him.
He's doing so much good.
But I woke up at 6 a.m.
So I went to bed at like 10 last night.
And I guess it's broke at about 10 o'clock Central.
And I read this DOJ letter about he didn't commit suicide.
Here's a video of outside the wing of showing cops, jail guards walk around.
And there is no blackmail and there is no client list and there is nothing else when we have the attorney general and them saying, we got 14 terabytes and hundreds of kids getting raped.
And you got the U.S. Attorney saying, we've got it.
We've seen it.
We're going to go after them.
And Kyle Serif and the FBI tells us four months ago, yeah, I've confirmed the FBI, they've sent the 14 terabytes out to the field offices.
I'm like, good God, you don't do that unless you're going to do it.
Unless Trump loaded the gun, cocked it, put it to their head and said, you roll over, Deep State.
You see I'm ready to do this.
I don't know that, but that's what it looks like to me.
And oh my God, now the recently released Epstein security footage is missing a full minute.
Oh, they're setting up Trump.
They're setting up.
It's insiders.
Oh, sir, look, we have this video, you know, eight hours of it or 12 hours of it.
And, you know, all this other stuff.
And, oh, it's all there.
No one went into the door to do it.
And then there's a minute missing.
Oh, my God.
I mean, again, PR disaster a few months ago when Cash Patel and Bongino went on Fox like deer in the headlights, like they were, had guns in their head, like they were hostages in North Korea or Vietnam, fighter pilot shot down.
Were they blinking with Morse code?
And then they go on a tour on Joe Rogan.
Other shows say, oh, if there was any video or any files, I'd give it to you, Joe Rogan.
If you're going to politically, because of the CIA and okay, it's national security, it's too dangerous.
We're going to stop the pedophilia, stop the honeypot networks.
I could hear that argument.
I'd still say, I think it's the wrong moral thing to do, but it's so dangerous to bring it out.
I could kind of go, okay, yeah.
But no, instead, you go on a blow your feet off with shotgun tour.
So the big question is, is Trump involved in this?
Is he going to come speak out?
When he said released this stuff for years, we know he's never been connected to it by all the evidence.
And now we've got, as I said, this is going to become a firestorm.
We'll get to this in a few minutes.
Roger Stone's here with us very graciously, and I appreciate it, StoneSone.com, long-term Trump confidant.
We now have the press secretary being grilled about it.
Yeah, you got U.S. attorneys, the attorney general all over TV saying, yeah, we got 14 terabytes of kids being raped, hundreds of new victims.
And then you say, now there's nothing.
You've just given the Democrats the ultimate weapon.
You go, oh, well, they're implicated more than Republicans.
So that, no, no, they'll never bring it all out, but they're now going to use it to say that Trump is covering up and his DOJ is.
How they maneuvered them into this disaster.
I'm predicting.
Roger Stone called me with the grab him by the pussy video or audio.
Obvious rocker room joking.
Everybody knows all the women want Trump.
He's never been accused of anything until he ran for office.
And I said, Roger, relax.
And Roger, he knew it was BS.
I said, call everybody, relax.
Trump's fine.
This is not important.
And I was right.
I almost vomited this morning when I had about two hours to think about this.
I didn't talk for hours before I said anything.
I didn't make phone calls.
I went and locked myself in my office and I sat there and just thought, this is a disaster.
And I don't say that to make it a bigger disaster.
It is.
Trump has to come out soon and say that, no, he wants it released because you can't tee this up when we got 14 terabytes and hundreds of kids getting raped, or he's got to throw them under the bus and say they were wrong.
Roger, I'm going to shut up, but I need Trump to succeed.
He's doing a great job.
You and I are going to be put in federal prison if we don't succeed.
This is life and death for us.
I need this guy's like a life raft in the North Atlantic with 40 below zero water.
We fall in that.
We're dead.
So I am in a paradoxical hell right now.
Stonezone.com.
Roger Stone, God bless you, brother.
You need no introduction.
I'm ranting.
Thank you.
What do you have to say?
roger stone
You know, Alex, back in 2015, I think I'm the first American author to write extensively about the Epstein case.
In my book, The Clinton's War on Women, it's the longest chapter.
I had his little black book.
And by the way, not everybody in his phone book was one of his clients, shall we say.
I also had the FAA manifest in terms of who visited the island.
And I read every single word of the lawsuit by Virginia Geoffrey.
I think she was then Virginia Roberts, one of Epstein's victims who refused a $30 million settlement and continued to fight Epstein in court.
Also conferred extensively with her attorney.
alex jones
She said Trump was never involved, never saw him.
roger stone
Correct.
The one time he was on the only Epstein property he was at in Palm Beach once for a charitable event.
She was present.
She said she saw no inappropriate activity on his part.
And then beyond that, she said, and her lawyer said, he was the only public figure who actually tried to help her in her case.
So we know that Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell, a Democrat, wasn't going to the island for the weather.
We know that Bill Richardson, the former Democrat governor of New Mexico, wasn't going to the island for the weather.
We know that Bill Clinton was not visiting the island 17 times for the weather.
If you read any of the transcripts from the Florida trial and the Florida indictment, there is no question that Epstein was involved in child sex trafficking.
Now, I honestly believe that, first of all, I like and respect Cash Patel, and he's telling you the truth.
They don't have any proof because Christopher Wray and the previous administration destroyed all the truth.
We know, because we can see with our eyes, that they removed hard drives and DVDs from Epstein's apartment in New York, from his island, from his ranch in New Mexico, from his apartment in Paris.
And the question is a simple one.
I never thought there was a list per se, but I think a list could have been compiled on the basis of those videos contained in the DVDs and the hard drives.
So what happened to them?
When Cash Patel says we don't have them, he's telling the truth because they were destroyed by the previous administration.
That is my view.
alex jones
Well, I mean, we know they would have used him with Epstein against Trump.
Previously, we have all the fake Jane Does and the EGE Carrolls and the fake actresses, you know, putting out videos that were confirmed to be fake.
I know that.
And Trump wasn't peed on by hookers in Moscow or St. Petersburg.
We know all that.
I totally agree.
My point is, why would Pam Bondi say, we got 14 terabytes and hundreds of new victims and put all that out?
And you've also got the U.S. attorney and a bunch of others coming out and saying they've seen it as coming out.
Why would they do all that and then now say, oh, actually, there's nothing?
And I get it.
There's not an official.
Here's my client list.
He was talking to restaurants and lawnmowers and pool people and politicians and business.
Obviously, most people that he's got numbers of aren't that.
That's clear.
The point is, is that why would they come out and say, we've got all this, we're going after them.
They're going to be prosecuted.
And then now 180 so fast.
roger stone
That is a question that I think Kim Bondi has to answer.
In other words, we have a discrepancy.
I believe Cash Patel when he says we don't have anything.
That's because it was destroyed.
And as far as Epstein killing himself, Michael Badden, the New York City medical examiner, probably the single most respected pathologist in the country, inspected Epstein's body and said that the wounds, that the broken bones in his neck were completely inconsistent with him hanging himself.
He also pointed out that he has conducted autopsies in a thousand hanging cases.
We also know that David Schoen, the criminal defense lawyer, was retained by Epstein, and they agreed to a very sizable retainer on the Thursday before the Saturday that he allegedly killed himself.
So who hires a new lawyer to head his criminal defense and then kills himself two days later?
And we're supposed to believe the video cameras just happen to be malfunctioning.
The two guards that we're supposed to be monitoring just happened to fall asleep.
Sorry, it's just not credible.
alex jones
And that leads me to this.
That leads me to this.
Why have Cash, a few months ago with Mongino, both great men, go on Fox, look like they're in the headlines, like they're political prisoners, like they're hostages, and say, oh, Crooks acted alone, open and shut.
And Epstein killed himself.
We're not going to show you footage of his cell or the cell bay, but we're going to show you footage of the door entering it.
And now when they release it, they leave a minute out, which I don't think Patel or Bongino did.
Whoever did that is setting them up.
This was a trap to hang Epstein and all this around Trump and his administration.
This is what Kyle Servant predicted last hour before this even came out.
Roger Stone, what the hell do you make of that?
Who edited that tape?
Who gave them this saying, this is it?
And then now this is a setup.
I'm telling you.
roger stone
Well, let me posit a theory here, which is quite simply that Epstein was an equal opportunity blackmailer.
There is no question that Alex Acosta, the U.S. attorney who gave Epstein a pass on his Florida case when he was appointed Secretary of Labor under Trump in the first term, and he was in preparation for his confirmation hearings, he was asked, what are you going to say if they ask you about why you gave Epstein a slap on the wrist?
He said, I'm going to tell the truth.
He was a CIA asset.
That's what I was told to say.
So I believe that the pressure from the British royal family, from a number of our other allies, perhaps Israel, perhaps the Saudis, who knows?
The point is, Epstein was doing dirty work, was collecting blackmail for many, many entities.
This was his business.
It's how he rose from obscurity, being a math teacher at a private institution.
alex jones
No, I told you this.
You told me this before the election.
You told me this before the election.
I agree with you.
I called you this morning.
We had a very short conversation.
You come on.
I said, let me guess.
They've come to Trump and said, National Security, CIA Massad, we got to kill this.
And somehow that's patriculated down into this.
So where do you see this going?
I mean, do you agree with me that this is, I mean, whoever gave them the video with the minute cut out at the DC, I mean, at the New York jail, the prison?
I mean, this looks like a setup, Roger.
roger stone
Well, and I've watched that video.
I'm still not sure what it proves, even with the minute cut out of it.
It doesn't seem to prove anything to me.
alex jones
That doesn't show he wasn't killed.
It doesn't even show the cell block.
It doesn't even show the wing.
roger stone
It just, it defies credibility, just like the question of Virginia Duffray, who only weeks ago, we were told committed suicide.
Alex, I interviewed her for hours.
I read her testimony.
I followed her like her father.
I don't believe she killed herself.
I just don't believe that.
So I think we have a massive cover-up here.
And I think it is due to pressure from a number of our allies because Epstein was blackmailing some very, very powerful, important people.
That is my theory.
In all honesty, while all of this is very, very interesting, this past week, CIA director dropped a bombshell in which he absolutely proves that the Russian collusion hoax was exactly that cooked up by John Brennan and James Comey, the FBI.
alex jones
In fact, Roger, let's do that.
Let's do that.
We got a break in six minutes because I actually have it all right here, the CIA report that we all live, that we all know is true.
We don't just believe the report.
We know it's true, that it was run by Brennan and Obama, absolutely, as we knew.
Now with all the footnotes, we had a few months ago.
Tulsi Gabbard, Director of National Intelligence, released a report with a lot of the similar information.
This is a huge deal.
You're right.
That's what's so sad about this is this overshadowing all the incredible information that's coming out.
roger stone
Allison, there's a lot more coming.
Chairman Crawford of the House Committee has a bombshell report, I'm told, that goes much, much, much further than what Ratcliffe has released this week.
alex jones
Okay, stay there.
I want to come back and spend time with you on that and give you the floor because we're both the targets of this.
You even more than I. But just finishing up with this, then I know we need time to think about this, but we don't know all the facts yet.
But you couldn't get Patel and Monginho to more contradict what they'd already said and what the AG had said than this and just say, that's it, go away.
If you wanted to create a firestorm, this is what you would do.
So approximating this, I don't know if you've probably ever talked to Trump since this broke yesterday, last night.
What do you think Trump needs to do?
roger stone
Well, I think he needs to call on Pam Bondi to clear the air.
She's the one who seems to be out of sync.
She clearly said, stuff's on my desk.
It's unbelievable.
We're reviewing it.
I see a pattern here, Alex.
Don't you notice how Damian Williams, Biden's U.S. attorney in New York, he presided over Epstein's murder, said nothing went wrong.
Jislaine Maxwell, how do you engage in a conspiracy, but you don't identify any of the other conspirators, nor do you call them as witnesses at her trial?
And now the same thing happens with Diddy.
We rely totally on Diddy's ex-girlfriend, as opposed to many of the other potential witnesses who could, I think, have nailed Diddy on the more serious charges.
It's the same pattern.
In every case, whether it's Epstein, whether it's Maxwell on behalf of Epstein, or whether it's Diddy, they were catering to very, very powerful people.
And those people have arranged through pressure to ensure that the secret dies with those three.
alex jones
Well, I know that Trump has said release it all, and there's never been any evidence of connecting any of it.
I know you don't want to surmise what Trump's going to do, but this is already having big blowback.
We've got some clips I'll play in a moment of the press secretary responding to questions.
People want this information, Roger.
What do you think Trump should do?
roger stone
Look, I think he's going to ask, he should order everybody to go back to the beginning and determine exactly what they have or what was booked in.
But my guess is we now know, we found this out weeks ago, that a lot of the key Russian collusion documents were hidden in a secret file that the average FBI executive could never even access.
So I suspect that what we're looking for, I believe cash, what we're looking for doesn't exist.
Doesn't mean it didn't exist.
It did exist.
But overshattering all of this, Alex, is not only these bombshells regarding the Russian collusion hoax, but we now finally have the U.S. government admitting they were coaching Lee Harvey Oswald.
That broke this week thanks only to the persistence of Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna.
And they've now finally forced the CIA to release the files and admit that they were well aware of Oswald and they were coaching him on that scene in New Orleans, which they tried to position him as a communist.
These are two huge breakthroughs.
alex jones
By the way, I've got that here as well.
I've got that here as well.
So let's come back and talk about what they're distracting us from right now.
And I agree with you.
It's known.
The FBI grabbed all the stuff under the Democrats, under Obama, out of little St. John's Island, the Caribbean, out of New York, out of Zoro Ranch, out of Florida.
So that's true.
Again, like you said, Bondi needs to respond.
And the U.S. attorneys that say they've seen it all and say, okay, you got hundreds of new victims, all this stuff.
What do you mean there's no list?
What do you mean there's no nothing?
Again, this is totally and completely insane.
But Roger, your book, The Clintons War on Women, is more important than ever.
People can go to EpsteintTruthbook.com and get the Clintons War on Women.
You literally called this first, my friend.
Tell us about that.
roger stone
This is the longest chapter in the book, and I exposed almost all of this.
So I don't know how Pam Bondi could not know the background here.
There's a lot of questions that need to be answered.
Let's hit it on the other side.
alex jones
All right.
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alex jones
All right, Roger Stone is our guest.
Another 25 minutes.
Roger.
You're right.
While we're busy looking at this fiasco and the DOJ completely reversing its public statements about hundreds of new victims, 14 terabytes of kids getting raped, and now we're told there's nothing there, there's nothing happening.
We have the information that came out last week that unfortunately has not gotten a lot of coverage that deals with the director of the CIA releasing a report with all the footnotes and documents of what you and I said back in 2017.
Stay behind networks of Obama, Brent, and the CIA creating the fake dossier, creating Russia Gate, creating the impeachments, literally in a coup against America.
Such a massive development right there.
And then General Flynn saying, that's it.
We've got to have indictments.
We've got to have arrest.
And then on top of that, you've got the Senate and Grassley putting out the report cut and dry of the communist Chinese, just like we heard back at the time four and a half years ago, flying in airplanes with ballots only marked for Joe Biden for key battle around states.
And then the CIA and FBI covering that up and working with them to steal the election.
I mean, it doesn't get more bombshell than that.
Roger Stone, let's go over it.
roger stone
Well, Alex, one final point on Epstein.
Since he was indicted and incarcerated in New York for child sex trafficking, what information was given to the grand jury in New York that indicted him?
How can we now say we have no evidence he was involved in child sex trafficking?
They indicted him on the basis of something.
alex jones
How is Jesuin Maxwell in jail for sex trafficking, but it didn't exist?
roger stone
Well, not only that, but she's charged.
One of the charges she was convicted of is conspiracy.
Okay.
Who are the other conspirators?
How come they weren't charged?
Again, and you saw it again in the Diddy case.
alex jones
And since we're finishing up on that, I meant to get to this, just play them back to back.
Here's Lebitt, the press secretary, back to back being asked about this.
We'll finish up on that and move on to the big scandals.
I don't want you to know about.
Here it is.
unidentified
Caroline, the DOJ and FBI have now concluded there was no Jeffrey Epstein client list.
What do you tell MAGA supporters who say they want anyone involved in Jeffrey Epstein's alleged crimes to be held accountable?
karoline leavitt
This administration wants anyone who has ever committed a crime to be held accountable.
And I would argue this administration has done more to lock up bad guys than certainly the previous administration.
And the Trump administration is committed to truth and to transparency.
That's why the Attorney General and the FBI director pledged at the President's direction to do an exhaustive review of all of the files related to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes and his death.
And they put out a memo in conclusion of that review.
There was material they did not release because, frankly, it was incredibly graphic and it contained child pornography, which is not something that's appropriate for public consumption.
But they committed to an exhaustive investigation.
That's what they did, and they provided the results of that.
That's transparency.
peter doocy
Oh, I'm not sure, Caroline.
Okay, so the FBI looks at the circumstances surrounding the death of Jeffrey Epstein.
According to the report, this systematic review revealed no incriminating client list.
So what happened to the Epstein client list that the Attorney General said she had on her desk?
karoline leavitt
Well, I think if you go back and look at what the Attorney General said in that interview, which was on your network on Fox News, John Roberts said, DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.
peter doocy
Will that really happen?
And she said, it's sitting on my desk right now to review.
karoline leavitt
Yes, she was saying the entirety of all of the paperwork, all of the paper in relation to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.
That's what the Attorney General was referring to, and I'll let her speak for that.
But again, when it comes to the FBI and the Department of Justice, they are more than committed to ensuring that bad people are put behind bars.
alex jones
I mean, I'm just spacious at this point.
Finishing up on this giant topic, and we'll shift into the other issues.
roger stone
I mean, look, I think Pam Bonge is the one who has to answer that question.
She also, I think, ultimately has to decide on whether we're going to indict John Brennan, the CIA director, who clearly orchestrated and pushed for the inclusion of the phone.
alex jones
So let's start over there.
I want to give you the floor because you were one of the main targets.
Well, General Flynn, I was the secondary, but nothing like you.
For people to know, start over at the beginning.
You and I first reported in 2017 that the CIA and Stay Behind Networks were doing this because a lot of it was already in legislation, the Defense Authorization Act.
But recap what happened and now, why this is so big, what came out last week.
roger stone
Well, the truth is this report, while it was important because it got into the mainstream media, but reporters like Lee Smith, for example, the great Lee Smith, had already reported the fact that John Brennan,
and for that matter, Andrew Weissman, from his time as general counsel with the FBI, they knew that the steel dossier was a fabrication paid for by Hillary Clinton, that the claim that Donald Trump had dallied with prostitutes in Moscow when they're on a private business trip was false.
Yet Brennan pushed to include it into the intelligence community assessment that was handed to Joe, to Barack Obama.
And then they used that as the rationale to launch the Mueller investigation to launch the greatest single dirty trick in American political history.
alex jones
And all the USAID and all the funding for propaganda and censorship by saying we were all Russian agents.
They ran a counter-espionage operation against the American people, framing us as Russian agents, including you.
roger stone
It is the greatest single abuse of a power in American history, which they used the full authority of the government and the incredible capability of our intelligence agencies to try to undo an election and bring down a duly elected president.
I'm sorry, but Watergate pales in comparison.
This was a small group of private citizens who were misguided.
And as we now know from declassified documents, being tracked and coached by the CIA through every step of it, it pales in comparison to the Russian collusion of my question is a simple one.
When will John Brennan be arrested?
Because treason has no statute of limitations.
He engaged in treasonous activity, and he should be charged.
McCabe should be charged.
Rosenstein should be charged.
Susan Rice should be charged.
Vice President Joe Biden, he was in on it too.
He should be charged.
Now, Barack Obama may be immune from prosecution under that Supreme Court ruling.
I'm not an attorney.
I can't say for sure.
But the American people are getting tired of this.
General Flynn is absolutely right.
These people tried to destroy Donald Trump's life, tried to destroy my life.
They tried to destroy General Flynn's life.
Alex, they tried to destroy your life.
Is anybody going to pay any penalty for this?
Oh, we're all distracted by Epstein.
Well, the good news is Epstein is dead, and he's no longer victimizing underage people, and he's no longer able to supply underage people for the amusement of international elites and politically powerful people.
At least he's out of business.
But these people, these perps are still around.
They're still playing the same game.
I saw John Brennan on TV a week ago saying he's appalled by the idea that Tulsi Gabbard would fire a bunch of deep state operatives from our intelligence agencies.
I'm appalled that that guy is still walking around free, in all honesty.
alex jones
Absolutely.
You also mention this via Trump ordering everything to be released, and they keep refusing it.
Then he orders more and more comes out.
Lee Harvey Oswald worked for the CIA.
They had psychological warfare operations experts all over him.
They say in contact with him, obviously coaching him.
We knew he was at the U-2 base in Japan.
We knew he was a fake defector to Russia.
He was married to the daughter of a famous anti-communist white Russian, I mean, czarist.
And now, this is old news for anyone that's done their research, but it's still a big deal that's coming out now with the CIA document, Roger.
Total continued vindication.
And as you said, finish up on this.
I want to go back.
You were saying more reports are about to come out of Congress detailing Crossfire Hurricane and the Russia collusion hoax.
roger stone
Yeah, I think there's a bombshell report coming from Chairman Crawford in the House, far, far more extensive than what CIA Director Ratcliffe released.
I actually think Ratcliffe released kind of the most shallow version of the truth, but there's a lot more coming.
I give enormous credit to DNI Director Telsey Gabbard, both on this matter and on the question of Oswald.
Annapolina Luna, the congresswoman from Florida, she is a firebrand.
She's a fighter.
They held this document that you just showed.
They held that back.
The CIA tried to held that back.
Remember, the CIA and the FBI insisted up until now that they had no previous knowledge of Lee Rvey Oswald.
They didn't know who he was.
Well, they knew who he was.
They were coaching him.
They were coaching him and positioning him as a pro-communist.
Remember, they found him handing out pro-Castro leaflets on the street in New Orleans along with Raphael Cruz, Ted Cruz's father.
Yes, it's in the Warren Commission report.
Yes, that is his picture.
Yes, Judith Very Baker, who was Oswald's mistress, said everybody knew Angel Cruz, Raphael Cruz.
He was part of Lee Harvey Oswald's crew.
So now, finally, only because of the persistence of Congresswoman Luna, do we finally have an admission from the CIA that they not only were aware of Oswald, but they were coaching him.
They were manipulating him.
They were positioning him to be the Patsy.
They were positioning him as a communist.
alex jones
Incredible.
And more is coming out.
How would you grade right now, Roger, the Trump administration?
166, 167 days, whatever it is.
I mean, overall, I'm seeing stunning success here.
roger stone
Well, I mean, let's go through the list.
USAID, the slush fund of the radical left, defunded our border.
Border crossings are, illegal border crossings are down by 96%.
We are deporting hundreds, thousands of dangerous illegal immigrants.
We have finally beaten back the judicial tyranny where some district judge can issue an order that affects the entire country, trying to tell the president he can't negotiate a tariff agreement.
Of course he can.
Trying to tell the president that he can't deport dangerous illegals.
Of course he can.
You have these tariff agreements that have been announced that are bringing billions of dollars back in the country.
The big, beautiful bill, not perfect, but it's only the biggest tax increase in American history.
And 88% of the people on Social Security will pay no Social Security tax going forward, thanks to this bill, not to mention the cutting of the tax on tips, not to mention the funding for the Golden Dome, which is the strategic defense initiative that protects this country, will protect this country from incoming ICBM missiles.
So I think I grade the president A plus.
Nobody is perfect, but I think he is really taking the bull by the horns and he's implementing every step of his agenda.
Meanwhile, over at HHS, Robert Kennedy is taking on the mandatory vaxxers and big pharma, and he's revealing the truth about the COVID vaccination and its lack of safety and efficiency.
I think the president is doing amazingly well.
One of the side benefits, not benefits, one of the side effects of his near death in Butler, Pennsylvania, not only a greater serenity and a certainty that his life was spared for this very mission, but also, Alex, a sense of urgency that we have four years to save this country, four years to turn around an ocean liner.
And he is doing it as aggressively as humanly possible.
He's a winner.
He's a fighter.
I think his appointments across the board have been extraordinary.
The giant disagreement within MAGA, and I recognize those who were concerned, but what he did in Iran, frankly, I agree with.
A surgical strike.
No boots on the ground.
No long-term commitments.
Not taking out the oil refineries.
Not taking a drone and killing the Ayatollah, trying to push them back to the peach table.
That's the Trump.
alex jones
Well, let me raise that before I get into another controversy, him and his amnesty announcement that he'd actually said before.
Demonizing Tucker, and I had a brain for it.
I said he was that Ayatollah.
No, it's the president, which everybody's done.
The demonization of Tucker as non-American, as a traitor, for letting the American people hear what the Iranian president has to say.
What do you make of that?
A tip by the neocon regulars and their talking points, the Shapiros, the Levins.
I mean, it's just ridiculous.
roger stone
First of all, I'm going to correct myself.
The Big Beautiful Bill had the biggest tax cut in American history.
I misspoke.
What they're trying to do to Tucker is absurd.
Why are they afraid to hear what this guy has to say?
By the way, I think he's going to reveal himself.
No one's claiming that he's a great man or that Islam is not dangerous.
We admit all of that.
But I think that the Warhawks are disappointed.
You see, they wanted this to be another Afghanistan.
They wanted this to be another Iraq.
And that hasn't happened.
Here's the difference.
We went to war in Iraq for no reason whatsoever.
No, Dick Cheney lied to us when he told us they had yellow cake uranium to build nuclear borrows.
And he lied to us when he said they were involved in the attack on America in 9-11.
Those are two lies.
alex jones
And they lied about, said they had anthrax.
roger stone
Indeed.
Here, there is no question that the Iranians were developing a nuclear device, a nuclear weapon that they would then share with their proxies.
This is not like the Japanese and the Germans in World War II, where they wanted to destroy us, but they wanted to live.
This is not like our struggle with the Chinese or the Russians who want to destroy us, but they want to live.
These are people who have no problem whatsoever killing themselves as long as they can kill us.
And that's why this is a particularly dangerous threat.
That's why I fully support final decision made by the president to go in on a limited basis to destroy their nuclear weapons development program.
alex jones
And that takes away, Daniel won't have a full war.
It's certainly working out so far, a very dangerous gamble, but it's working so far.
So let's keep going with the luck of Trump.
Final question.
I know Trump said we're going to clamp down on the border and make a way for people that aren't criminals other than the pat cross the border legally, but who don't have big rap sheets of rape and murder and drug dealing and human trafficking and all the rest of it for farm workers and things.
And I live in Texas.
I know the Texas border, South Texas.
There's nobody down there but the farm workers that come across, basically.
Trump always said he was going to do that.
Now I'm for a moratorium.
I think we've been totally overrun.
But at the same time, after he gets a Supreme Court win, after they scale up deportations, he says, listen, for people that aren't committing a bunch of crimes, that aren't here committing crimes, we are going to create A system with the farm workers to come and leave.
Same thing with hotel workers.
He already has a system that's legal to do that.
So that's exactly what Trump said.
So I think I'm going to debate Nick Fuentez on this tomorrow at 1 p.m.
I think it's unfair to say this is a promise broken, and he's putting huge pressure on scaling up.
And he always said that they would create a mechanism for people that aren't hardened criminals and do provide something to have a path to come back legal, but he wants that control in.
Here he is in Iowa over the weekend.
People are really pissed about this.
I think it's a misrepresentation.
Here it is.
Tom Homan.
donald j trump
And we're working on legislation right now.
Susie, right?
We're working on legislation right now where farmers, look, they know better.
They work with them for years.
You had cases where, not here, but just even over the years, where people have worked for a farm on a farm for 14, 15 years, and they get thrown out pretty viciously.
And we can't do it.
We've got to work with the farmers and people that have hotels and leisure properties too.
We're going to work with them and we're going to work very strong and smart.
And we're going to put you in charge.
We're going to make you responsible.
And I think that that's going to make a lot of people happy.
Now, serious radical right people who I also happen to like a lot, they may not be quite as happy, but they'll understand, won't they?
Do you think so?
Madam Secretary, look at you with a white hat on.
Do you think they'll understand that you're the one that brought this whole situation up?
alex jones
All right.
So I'm not an apologist for this.
I see both views, but he was always clear he was going to do this.
Control it, make them come back legally, those that actually perform a service.
What do you think, Roger?
roger stone
If people are working and they're paying taxes and their employer will vouch for them and they have no criminal record and no criminal intent, but there is no work in the country that they come from, then yes, I think there should be a program to allow them on a regulated basis to be in the country.
When he speaks of radical right, I think he's talking about you and I, Alex.
I don't know.
But yeah, he's always been a pragmatist and is obviously clear that he's about business and therefore farmers, restaurant owners are saying, look, I can't find anybody to take these jobs.
These people aren't criminals.
They will pay taxes.
I will vouch for them.
I think having a program under which they're allowed in the country is entirely.
alex jones
I mean, Trump always said we're going to shut down the illegal, do whatever, free-for-all, and then we'll create a program if it's controlled for some to come back.
He always said that.
roger stone
Well, and the greatest priority continues to have to be a focus on those who are convicted of crimes in their country or this country.
The most vicious criminals should be, I think, are Tom Holman's number one priority.
I think we're talking about 30 million people here, Alex, not 20.
And supporting 30 million people will not be easy.
But let's get rid of the most dangerous criminals first, not those who are fully employed, paying taxes and not hurting anybody.
alex jones
Well, there's no doubt, but whether you agree with that or not, and I can see both sides, Trump was always honest about that and said he would do that.
All right.
Well, we're going to continue to watch this, StoneZone.com.
Roger, thank you so much for the time.
Thank you so much.
roger stone
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God bless you.
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alex jones
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roger stone
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alex jones
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It is such a game changer.
Roger Stone, thank you so much for being with us.
unidentified
Thank you.
roger stone
God bless you.
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Well, you've rolled over.
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And that's what this is.
People ask, man, thanks for fighting.
Thanks for never giving up.
Wow, why does it break your spirit?
It intensifies my spirit.
we're up against pure evil and we're turning the tide and we're winning and then to know that if we don't fight hard they're gonna win and commit humanity to a nightmare of evil you think stuff's bad now you ain't seen nothing yet thank me for fighting for my own future and yours collectively there's not even a question of fighting these people look at them they've got to be opposed people tend to think being persecuted is is oh you want to stay away from that oh so you want to stay away from the fight no it's like john paul jones somebody got commissioned as the head of the u.s navy and row he was starting and
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Go out.
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Well, that's what I want to do.
I only want the fastest ships.
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I want reporters all over the country.
unidentified
I want to be 50 times stronger against the enemy.
alex jones
I want 50 times the audience.
I want victory.
You think what we've done to the enemy has been effective so far?
It's nothing.
I have not yet begun to fight.
So support yourself.
Support us.
Do it.
Or be conscious that you didn't fight when the time was right.
You hesitated.
You took this as another entertainment venue to some other show.
Just more talk.
This ain't talk.
This is the targeting coordinates to take down the enemy.
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They hate this blade.
This operation is a sword that is plunged politically, culturally, spiritually into the hearts of our enemies over and over and over again.
They hate it.
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That's what we're doing here.
This is serious business.
So I'm coming to you asking you to continue to commission us in this fight.
We've already delivered you more victories against the enemy than any other media operation in the world.
And I'm asking you again for all of our collective futures to come to our aid now more and take your fight to the 110%.
Let's all tell the truth.
Be accurate.
Stand against evil.
Have courage.
Until it's not even having courage, it's what you are.
We are the number one hated and attacked media organization in the world by every evil, disgusting, sickening organization on the face of the planet.
And I'm going to say it.
If you're going to go, go as big as you can.
That's why John Hancock literally saw people signing their names a little bitty and people he knew signed them.
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Every person signing that was signing their potential death warrant.
He got up there and went boom.
And he said, if I'm going to have the king coming after me, I want him to come after me, number one.
benny johnson
That's a pretty large signature, Johnny.
alex jones
Yeah, I'm going to risk my life fighting tyranny.
Anybody that's ever been in fights, you know, looking for fights, but you've been in a few.
You learn, you hesitate when somebody's trying to beat the hell out of you.
You're going to get your ass kicked.
But you just decide to beat the living hell out of them and stop worrying about who's winning.
And you're going to win almost every time unless you're fighting Mike Tyson.
I know people will knock you upside the head really hard.
I'm like, sit back and look at what it did.
Or somebody will hit you in the side of the head with a baseball bat.
Then they'll kind of sit back and watch and see what it did.
I'm like a Terminator.
You're about to find out.
unidentified
I'll shove that bat up your ass and turn you into a popsicle.
alex jones
So that's what's going on here.
And I love it.
Because we're drawing their fire.
We've exposed them.
We've drawn them out of their rat holes to do all of this.
The Soros scum and the Soros DA.
It's all of them.
They're filth.
They're disgusting tyrants.
Just like judges in Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia.
They're disgusting.
And it's like we're in the dark and they got night vision.
We're in a pitch black arena with no light.
And they've got their illuminators on.
And they can see us and we can't see them.
Well, guess what?
I walked over with my listeners collectively and pulled the switch.
And turned the lights on.
The real war is here with the globalists and Soros and Obama and the new world order and
black rock they've declared war on us and we accept the challenge we're taking the country back their attacks on trump their law fair their all the criminal activity how'd that work out for them they were dumb enough to brag remember everywhere it'll be over for trump when this mugshot comes out in georgia we're finally getting it every channel remember it's the end the mug shot the mug shot the mug shot And then Trump nails it with a beyond clenished wood,
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You can't fake that look.
And then when they shot him, you got even more of that look, except the lips pulled down and the teeth bared and the eyes bugging out.
Yes, yes, we get to see who's really who at times like this, don't we?
And now the bad guys are gonna find out who's really who, aren't you?
Because the veneer of civilization is burning off.
And all the posers and all the thugs and all the boys who thought they had this country on its knees and cowed are now just beginning to understand that they have awoken the terrible giant Judge Joe Brown coming up on the other side of this break.
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unidentified
We'll see you next time.
The globalists are coming!
The globalists are coming!
alex jones
Gates, Schwab, Soros.
unidentified
Gentlemen, these men must be stopped at all costs.
They want to put chemicals in the water that turn the frogs gay?
How about we put their tea in the water instead?
The Americans have routed us, sir.
They keep taking that strange liquid that makes their tongues blue.
We can't hold them off much longer, sir.
Those Yanks are demons, I tell you.
I saw one beat one of our boys to death with a stuffed animal frog.
A stuffed animal frog.
Yeah, I've killed probably 10 or 12 red coats with Old Froggy here.
kyle seraphin
It's a highly underrated melee weapon, in my opinion.
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The answer to 1984 is 1776.
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All right.
I apologize to Judge Joe Brown.
We moved him today because Roger was coming on.
We have some technical things.
We'll get him on the next few days.
I really want to get his take on Epstein anymore.
He is so smart.
He has seen so much.
But instead, I already wanted to do this.
I complained the first hour.
I said, God, I should probably take 10 hours of calls.
I mean, this is quite the story.
And look, Roger Stone is loyal to Trump.
He knows Trump's a good guy.
And he knows his intelligence agencies and foreign governments, the king of England putting pressure over his brother.
But this Epstein thing is really, really a massive big deal.
Because you can't say we got 14 terabytes of kids getting raped four months ago, two months ago, the AG on TV, and then you got Cash Patel running around months later on.
Joe Rogan saying, no, there's nothing.
I'd release it.
Trust me.
You trust me, right?
The scandal.
What are the Democrats going to do with that?
What are they going to do with her saying, I've seen it, it's there.
And U.S. attorneys saying it.
It's everywhere.
I mean, you don't need to be a genius to know this is a fiasco.
And, you know, quite frankly, Roger, like, well, let's focus on Ratcliffe and the CIA and admitting that Obama ran a coup and the Russia gate.
Yeah, that is what's important.
So I think Trump needs to come out and needs to speak out very, very soon.
I want to play these clips again of the press secretary just an hour and a half ago being grilled over this and people not buying it.
So I don't want this to be a terrible scandal for Trump.
I want his agenda to go through.
But when they have the CIA Mossad MI6 honeypot, sex trap, pedophile ring system that we know for decades has been going on.
We've been exposing it for decades longer than that.
If they now don't prosecute this, they are becoming accomplices after the fact.
So here's the press secretary.
unidentified
Caroline, the DOJ and FBI have now concluded there was no Jeffrey Epstein client list.
What do you tell MAGA supporters who say they want anyone involved in Jeffrey Epstein's alleged crimes to be held accountable?
karoline leavitt
This administration wants anyone who has ever committed a crime to be held accountable.
And I would argue this administration has done more to lock up bad guys than certainly the previous administration.
And the Trump administration is committed to truth and to transparency.
That's why the Attorney General and the FBI director pledged at the President's direction to do an exhaustive review of all of the files related to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes and his death.
And they put out a memo in conclusion of that review.
There was material they did not release because, frankly, it was incredibly graphic and it contained child pornography, which is not something that's appropriate for public consumption.
But they committed to an exhaustive investigation.
That's what they did, and they provided the results of that.
That's transparency.
peter doocy
Follow up on that, Caroline.
Okay, so the FBI looks at the circumstances surrounding the death of Jeffrey Epstein.
According to the report, this systematic review revealed no incriminating client list.
So what happened to the Epstein client list that the Attorney General said she had on her desk?
karoline leavitt
Well, I think if you go back and look at what the Attorney General said in that interview, which was on your network on Fox News, John Roberts said, DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.
peter doocy
Will that really happen?
And she said, it's sitting on my desk right now to review.
karoline leavitt
Yes, she was saying the entirety of all of the paperwork, all of the Paper in relation to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.
That's what the Attorney General was referring to, and I'll let her speak for that.
But again, when it comes to the FBI and the Department of Justice, they are more than committed to ensuring that bad people are put behind bars.
alex jones
All right.
So all I can do is be honest with the listeners, because I haven't figured all this out yet.
Let's tell you what I'm thinking.
I'm going to go to Judge Joe Brown, who were able to get on.
I appreciate him coming on an hour later.
I apologize for that.
We're going to go to him.
I can't wait to hear his gravitas on this.
What an intelligent storied person, renowned for his knowledge and wisdom.
I need Trump to succeed.
I see him doing all this good stuff.
I see the bad guys coming after him.
They've had now, I said five, now I've learned seven grand juries open on me in the last six, seven years trying to put me in prison.
Accelerated under Biden.
I need Trump to succeed.
And to have Bondi and all them say we've seen 14 terabytes of kids getting raped and U.S. attorneys saying, yeah, I've seen it.
We're prosecuting just takes time.
Now they're like, he didn't, he killed himself.
And they put out a video with time cut out of it from outside the wing.
You can't even see where he's at.
Oh, we got a video from the hallway to the hallway, to the hallway to his wing.
There's your proof.
And there was no blackmail.
There was no honeypot.
There was no U.S. intelligence agency or Mossad.
When it's on record, he's Mossad and CIA.
And Maxwell's, you know, his partner in crime's dad was the head guy for Mossad and MI6.
This isn't even debatable.
He got buried with Mossad honors at Mount of Olives, Maxwell's dad.
So why would you put out such a giant lie?
So I'd wanted to get Judge Joe Brown on to give us his report card on Trump, on the riots, on what the left's planning, because he's predicted it all.
I wanted to get him on about the history of corruption at the FBI.
But now this broke, since I was trying to get him on the last few weeks with the Epstein thing.
So I can't wait because I haven't talked to him.
Other than some text messages a few weeks ago, I don't know his view on this yet.
Judge Joe Brown is amazing.
The judgejobrownshow.com, be sure and watch it.
It's amazing.
Judge Joe Brown TV on X. I don't need to go over his whole history and all the things that he's done, but he's been there and he's got the receipts.
So, Judge, there's so much to cover in the 48 minutes we got.
So thank you for being here with us.
But I would imagine you want to respond to this and give your take.
So take your time.
I want to hear what you think is happening because if they wanted to cover up Epstein, if Trump did, and maybe blackmail the deep state with it, I don't know.
That's what's happening.
That's what I think, at least at one level, maybe.
Why would you then contradict everything you said and do a 180 and put out a ridiculous video that shows nothing saying Epstein didn't kill himself and do a tour with total backlash with the FBI director and deputy director on Joe Rogan everywhere saying preposterous things that no one is buying?
I'm rarely dumbfounded.
Maybe your knowledge can bring me up to speed here, but what the hell do you think is going on, Judge?
judge joe brown
Four things.
One, a study of history.
Two, a couple of anecdotes dealing with clients, the situations that I was witness to.
And four, a comment about human nature.
Let's start with that one first.
There is a human habit, especially when you're not used to dealing with such things, to run your mouth off and say stuff up front that you sometimes regret and put you behind an eight ball.
Let's go to the number one first, and that's the historical circumstances.
You remember Mata Hari from World War I, the famous madam who was supposed to be sexy and hot, and she was a spy who had been sleeping with all of the important people and was getting information for German intelligence and sometimes playing double agent.
Well, the sex drive is very strong in humans.
And if you're running an intelligence agency or you're doing something intelligence-wise, you can put that to good use and get those compromise situations down recorded these days so you can put them to use.
The other thing is, is there is an interesting collaboration going on in the Middle East that very few people are aware of.
Israel, Egypt, Saudi Arabia are very close together.
They work together all of the time.
And I won't elaborate, but I have been in situations where someone I was close to, they were involved with my show also.
We'd have meetings in my green room, and there'd be a Mossad agent there and a CIA agent there, and they would be having an interesting discussion about certain things.
And this close acquaintance, friend, brother of mine, he would occasionally train Mossad, CIA, and Saudi intelligence agents, all at the same time in some of the classes he taught.
There's also a very close connection between the Saudi intelligence network, the CIA, and Mossad.
At one point in time, 20 years ago, 15 years ago, the head of Saudi counterintelligence was actually an American citizen.
He was also Saudi as well, in line for the throne.
And he was born in the United States and went to public school from kindergarten through grad school in California.
His children were born in the U.S. His wife was born in the U.S. He had a place in Beverly Hills and was what it was.
And there was an intense degree of cooperation.
You have this thing where during the Carter administration, he worked with Menachembegen and Anne Wasedat.
So did Israel and Egypt wind up signing a treaty with each other and effectively became allies.
alex jones
And let me just come to the chase here because you're keep going, sir.
You got the floor.
But again, you've not just been involved as a judge and government and all the things you've done.
When you have a number one TV show, as you've had, that's where intelligence agencies show up like White on Rice or Flies on Unit.
judge joe brown
Yeah, I'd known this particular acquaintance brother for 50 years, 40 years at the time.
So it wasn't anything new with him.
We'd gone all the way back, I think we were 18 years old when we started hanging together.
alex jones
But people might ask, like, how does Judge Joe Brown know Masaden CIA?
When you got a number one TV show, it immediately appears.
Like, I never tried to be around this stuff.
When you get a big show, it appears.
The point is they're all around anything hot, anything powerful to gauge and control and watch.
judge joe brown
But that's not where I wound up knowing these people.
alex jones
You know them before.
judge joe brown
I was very active back in the 1960s with names and some of my close and personal friends.
And in this case, a brother of mine was, well, I'll give you his name.
You can look him up.
His name is Clifford Stewart, late of Los Angeles, California, Grandmaster Stewart, who Black Belt Magazine for about 15 years declared to be probably the most dangerous human alive in North America.
alex jones
I heard him say his name again.
I want to pull him up.
What's the name?
judge joe brown
Clifford Stewart.
alex jones
Clifford Stewart, Black Belt.
Pull it up.
Go ahead.
Okay.
judge joe brown
He had 14 black belts in karate, 10th, Dan, and nine of them.
He was a Kung Fu Grand Master, had black belts in Jiu-Jitsu and Judo.
He was a pin-decker for Pinot Silot, one of the most dangerous forms of martial arts.
And he had his own discipline called Within Arms Reach acronym WAR.
And five of the members of SEAL Team 6 were his active students.
So, I mean, he went that way and he did assignments for Mossad, MI6, French intelligence.
CIA would come in once or twice a month and they would have a conference with him.
unidentified
So this was a serious person.
judge joe brown
And he also ran security for OPEC headquarters and was at one point chief of the Royal Guards of Amin Ra, who were the hereditary bodyguards for the Royal House of Saudi Arabia.
And it was an interesting thing that he wound up doing.
And some other people I knew.
alex jones
So I think where you're going with this is they're covering this up because of intelligence agency involved.
unidentified
Yeah.
judge joe brown
Now, this other thing, I represented mostly criminal defendants when I practiced law.
And there would be a time or two where something like this would happen.
Excuse me.
I know you have implicated my client in this, but we have something to offer for you.
In return for suppressing what you might do, we can supply some very, very, very interesting information that might be of great use to certain people.
And they would look at it and say, all right, maybe we can do some business.
Let's see.
This is what we want.
And there are times in our history and under our circumstances, particularly during the Cold War, that they'd catch somebody spying or doing something off-key where they had the person dead to rights.
But they couldn't use anything against them because if they did in an open and public speedy trial situation, the information that would come out would be too entirely dangerous and damaging to American security interests.
Now, I imagine that Epstein had some very interesting ties and was using this sex drive that is so particularly strong in the people that tend to be in alpha male or female positions that they can easily be compromised.
That goes back to my remarks about the Matahari thing, where it's been a tradition within the intelligence community worldwide to use people's sex drives to put them in compromised situations where you can turn.
alex jones
Sure, sex operatives are in the Bible, the Old Testament.
I mean, it's the oldest thing.
Yeah.
Israel would have a prostitute spine.
Yeah.
judge joe brown
So that is what I think Epstein was doing.
And you have to remember that on one side, they've been pushing this peculiar form of Herzat sexuality.
You saw a lot of it come out with the Diddy trial and getting your freak on and all this other stuff, him getting his on and that sort of business.
But that leaves people open to a lot.
Now, another thing, I talked to you sometime before, I think it's going on three years now.
I was in New Jersey and there was a thing we were doing and I got a chance to talk to the technician who had not the one, but the three Hunter Biden laptops.
And he had downloaded them.
So at leisure, I got to go through and peruse what was on them.
So I won't get into them now, but some of the things that were on those laptops would suggest that a lot of what Epstein was up to had a lot to do with people in very, very high places in American government were too prone to get their freak on.
And that was some very compromising material that was there, which, by the way, I think has something to do with the Diddy trial, because some of the things that I saw in these proceedings make absolutely no sense.
alex jones
Well, yeah, exactly.
Maureen Coney goes in and limitedly covers it up for larger operations.
So let me ask you this then.
I didn't talk to you about your view, but I said this the first hour.
Trump has taken control.
He didn't do it.
They're shutting it down from everything I've seen.
He has taken control of the FBI, CIA blackmail file.
And now I suddenly see this deep state more and more rolling over.
People say, well, that's very immoral to do.
The argument would be it's too damaging to bring this act and bring down the whole government.
I'm not endorsing that, but the best approximation I've got is they get the files.
They raid the FBI.
The FBI raids the FBI five months ago.
When they hid the files in New York, they make the guy resign that was covering it up and Comey's daughter's still there.
They then load the gun, cock the gun, point at the deep state's head.
And now suddenly that Nate Tell everybody's kissing Trump's butt.
And it looks like Trump is now in control of the file.
And obviously they're not going to read in the FBI.
It's the CIA and Ratcliffe doing it.
The best approximation I've got, and it is speculation, but I got a lot of points, is that Trump has decided to just use the file against them.
What do you think, Judge?
judge joe brown
I think you're right on point with that.
I think a great deal of what happened with Smith and Millargo when the FBI raided it some years ago and this thing that clearly they had no standing to go against about him supposedly having classified confidential documents,
when as we have discussed, the President of the United States under the Constitution as chief diplomat and commander-in-chief has been held to have absolutely unquestionable authority as to what he declares either confidential and secret or decides to declare is not such.
So my sneaking suspicion is that a lot of what he refused to turn over to the archivist, which was unconstitutional in terms of what it was trying to put in place through statutory override of constitutional authority,
which is wrong, is that there was wrongdoing that if he turned it over to the archivist, it was going to be turned over to the people who were recorded doing wrong and they would destroy it.
So we had an obligation to the people to maintain control of that, which he did.
And I see absolutely nothing wrong with it.
It has been dropped.
It's dead.
It's not there, but he knows that.
And I have a sneaking suspicion that when the investigations are completed and they're solid, we're going to start seeing something come out of it.
Interestingly enough, we have a very profoundly messed up situation in this country right now.
There is a United States Criminal Code, Title VIII, Section 1324.
And governors, mayors, all sorts of elected officials, sheriffs, police agencies, and various states have completely violated this criminal statute or series of statutes.
And it's no defense that a person has an official status.
They can aid, abet, advise, counsel, procure, give general comfort and assistance.
And what is Title VIII, Section 1324?
Guess what?
Got to do with setting up sanctuary cities for alien invaders, for dealing with illegal immigrants and giving them comfort to evade apprehension, detention, deportation, to feed them, clothe them, shelter them, to provide transportation.
That's been felonious for quite a few decades, and people are just running off at the mouth, claiming that they are engaged in these felonious activities.
It's amazing to me.
And that sets an atmosphere where there is a massive amount of crime.
You hear the mayor of Los Angeles, you hear the governor of California advocating that people and their state officials interfere with ICE.
That's under Title 8 Section 1324, and it's a felony to do that.
And here they're claiming credit for it.
alex jones
I mean, isn't it really?
Isn't it a real insurrection?
We're told Jan 6 was.
This is a real insurrection.
judge joe brown
This is real.
I mean, I used to try.
I've tried federal defendants.
It's been 40-something years ago, but I had clients with those cases.
What was happening is they were pimps and they were in Memphis, which is kind of one of the capitals of pimping and prostitution.
At least it was.
unidentified
And they would bring in people from across.
alex jones
Hold on, Judge Joe Brown.
We got to go to break.
Come back and finish the story.
And I want to ask you about these Article III judges and the Supreme Court ruling last week.
We'll be right back with Judge Joe Brown.
Stay with us.
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Well, I tell you, I've been watching Judge Joe Brown for decades, but getting to know him the last 10 years or so interviewing him.
He is very knowledgeable and he's, I want to say rarely wrong, but I can't remember where he was wrong.
So 35,000-foot view, started getting into it with the no-kings and Soros and the left and their attempt to create a race war around arresting the illegals and all the rest of it, but that seems to be fizzling out and not working.
And then you got all these Article III courts that we know are administrative, created by Congress, not co-equal like the Supreme Court.
Obviously, I'm not a lawyer judge like you, but it's clearly unconstitutional.
I predicted the Supreme Court had to shoot that down.
But big picture, the Democrats continue to break records in their polling.
They continue to have their lowest poll in history, lowest poll in history.
We need a two-party system, obviously.
We don't want a one-party dictatorship, but if they're extinct themselves, what happens to them as they continue down?
Because I look at body language.
I looked at Hakeem Jeffries and the Democrats.
They were trying to block the Big Beautiful Bill Friday.
And I looked at their body language for hours.
We covered it live.
I watched it.
They didn't have the same arrogance they used to have, but that almost makes them more dangerous because when people are arrogant, they're easier to beat, in my experience.
So I don't want to count them out.
But at the same time, I smell victory.
And I really see it up to us as American people to lose if we don't come together and have prosperity and justice and common sense.
That's a long breakdown.
But just in general, with your knowledge, how are you feeling about America?
And where do you see the Democrats going?
And what do you think the dangers are to this revival of Americana and freedom?
I mean, is it going well?
Or what's your prognosis, Judge, for the country?
judge joe brown
I tell you this.
Oh, by the way, you were looking good in the commercials there.
Well, thank you for pumping that eye.
alex jones
Not as good as you, but I'm trying.
I was a fast guy.
judge joe brown
I'm getting too old.
I just had a birthday day before yesterday, and I'm getting way up there.
So I'm working on aftermarket parts to keep going, but it's still going.
Anyway, here's this thing.
We have a situation where for a number of reasons over the last 50 years, mainstream media, the political circus, the American culture has been pushing a negation of character.
What you got with Epstein, what you got with Diddy, what you get with the mess that they try to show now and perpetrate as something to aspire to, to glorify dysfunction, in other words, is a sickness that is founded on somehow or another, we ought to be able to cut corners so we don't have to work hard.
We don't have any personal accountability or responsibility.
We don't have to be somebody to look up to.
Great societies throughout world history have held up certain elements of character as things to achieve.
Virtue, courage, forthrightness, being able to do hard work and demonstrate by your courage physically and morally that you are above the bottom line.
alex jones
You're talking about competition.
You're talking about the end of competition.
And I got to say this.
Everybody backs us white people, but I'll tell you where we deserve it.
Statistically, you can see it.
You go to one of these pedo parades.
It's 90% the most disgusting, crazy white people shaking their genitals in front of little kids they bring.
And I would have to work hard to look or act like that.
And these people are proud of themselves and they want our children.
This is what you're talking about, Judge.
This is the final.
What is wrong with white people?
I mean, look at this.
judge joe brown
This is where I was going with Judge.
alex jones
Oh, I knew it.
judge joe brown
We stopped this, November 24.
How long we stopped it and whether we end it is another question.
But what it is, is it's a negation of those aspects of human character that have gotten us from cave to condo.
You are not supposed to be obligated to deal with duty, honor, obligation, responsibility.
alex jones
I agree with you, but what about the spirits?
You've talked about this.
Show the guy with the bunny rabbit ears with the beard.
This person is in love with themselves.
What is that?
judge joe brown
He's not in love with himself.
See, that is the key.
They hate themselves.
alex jones
Look at them.
judge joe brown
They look like dumps.
They're physically unattractive.
They are out of shape physically.
They aren't doing anything in life.
They hate themselves.
So what we have is an interesting thing.
alex jones
They want to drag us with them.
judge joe brown
Yeah, drag them with them.
But see, the other thing is, is, we have the effort to do something that is not political, it is almost a religion.
It's like trying to impose a new religious cult on the country.
We can't do that under the Constitution, but they're getting away with it because people don't recognize it.
alex jones
No, you said that on my show 10 years ago.
You said the left and the whole LGBT thing is a cult.
They admit it's a religion.
So exactly, how do you counter a religion?
You got to have a religion.
So what is it?
Competition, America?
judge joe brown
See, look at this.
The average woman in the United States looks a lot better than that, probably has more sense, more personal dignity, more sense of purpose, and more sense of having a purpose that is good for everybody else besides self.
These are selfish individuals that are not willing to honor the human compact of altruism and going out being willing to sacrifice personal interest for the good of the many.
They hate themselves.
So they have tried to impose this rainbow cult of hate on the country where you have no duty, honor, and obligation, and you can let everything go to hell.
It is not good, where everybody is supposed to be so sensitive that no one can be critical.
No one can be objective.
You're supposed to.
alex jones
They want us to surrender.
They want us to surrender.
And you're saying the surrender's over for now, but we haven't won yet.
judge joe brown
We haven't won yet.
It's not over because we're just a year and a half into this.
And we have got to firm things up so it stays with us.
Because look at this.
Where are our heroes?
Basketball players, football players, baseball players, actors?
We don't even laud military heroes anymore.
We have vague mentions on the back page of something or as an after effect when a news service carries it that somebody got a medal.
They don't even give out medals anymore.
Stuff that would have gotten you close to getting a CMH Congressional Medal of Honor might get you nominated for a bronze star now.
They've cut stuff down and out.
We've had heroic boys and girls over in the sandpile for 35-some years, but we haven't honored them.
We don't have heroes.
Somebody sinks a three-pointer with four seconds left in the game.
That's a hero.
That's not a hero.
That person gets paid millions of dollars for doing something that a lot of people waste their time as a preoccupation.
That's not what a hero is about.
We have Maxine Wastewater types.
We have Corey Bookers.
We have Akeems in Jasmine Rockets.
And what are they?
They are an anathema who reject those things that humanity has honored.
They're trying to say, hate yourself.
There is no need to start trying because you will be a failure.
Let us take care of you.
alex jones
But that's where I was going.
And you sold my thunder.
They act like, I've watched these videos and I've been there in person.
It's nightmarish.
It's much worse in person.
They are all acting like they're powerful and happy, but they are loathsome.
They are unhappy and they hate everybody else.
So why can't they get out of it?
Why are they like this?
Is there any way to save them?
judge joe brown
You need to start making it tough again.
The world is not a fair place.
What'd you have for dinner last night?
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Do you have anything meat or fish?
alex jones
Yeah, I had some beef and a salad.
judge joe brown
Okay, so a cow had to die so you could have the beef.
You think it was fair to the cow?
alex jones
No.
judge joe brown
Well, life's not.
alex jones
But I'm the apex predator, and that's how it is.
judge joe brown
Yeah, I know.
But you get out in some places I can think of off California's coast in the wrong place and you might run into Smiley, aka a great white.
He's 16 feet long with a bad attitude.
Exactly.
You know, life is not fair.
People are getting mauled a lot in the last couple of years by large bear around the country because the populations are increasing.
We don't hunt them and they don't feel the pressure.
They don't recognize the food chain status that we're supposed to be top of.
And then, you know, you might get done in by earthquakes, tsunami, typhoon, hurricane, tornado.
alex jones
It's a lie that the world is a safe place.
judge joe brown
It's not.
I mean, all kinds of things can go wrong.
It's dangerous.
Now, you might be going to get your gas and some damn fool that didn't get raised properly decides he wants to take you out.
The world is not safe.
So these people want to have this illusion that everybody's supposed to be about safe and all you have to do is want to have warm little smooth feelings and get your freak on and everything is supposed to be all right.
Well, that concentration on getting your freak on out in the open is ruining stuff.
It's called decency.
You know, we are indecent.
What we hold up to children to watch is no longer restricted.
The language is foul.
The circumstances are foul.
They have Walt Disney pushing some horrible things.
Have you seen this one?
What is it?
Arlo and Stitch?
Is that the name of the cartoon they have?
alex jones
There's a bunch of pedo stuff in Disney.
judge joe brown
Yeah, yeah, but it's even worse.
See, they made a movie out of it.
But the original animation, that little creature is a biological weapon that has completely destroyed all life on six planets.
So the bad guys are an inter, well, in a galactic posse that's trying to stop it before it wipes all life out on another.
alex jones
Wow, no, I didn't know about this.
So they've got a show where the thing that wants to kill humanity is the good guy.
judge joe brown
Yeah, that's what's the name of it.
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I'm looking up Stitch and what Arlo is it Stitch, Arlo and Stitch or something like that?
judge joe brown
It's a little girl.
She's six years old and her sister is a guardian and sister's an idiot who hangs around surfing and won't take care of business.
So everything goes to the devil.
So they try to make that look good.
So she hides this thing from people and they're trying to, yeah, that thing.
That is in the storyline, a biological weapon that's wiped out all life on six separate planets.
And it's supposed to be cute.
alex jones
Which is Bill Gates.
Wow.
So they're telling us what they want to do.
unidentified
Yeah.
judge joe brown
And then look at some other classics.
Home Alone.
E.T. Now, this is this thing where children know more than their incompetent adult parents.
So the children get proved right when they disobey the parent.
And that's been going on for 50 years.
So it is no wonder that children don't listen to parents anymore.
alex jones
Oh, and listen, you may have seen this, Judge.
Paul Ehrlich wrote books about it, the big globals for depopulation, but the 70s and 80s, he went on Jimmy Carson everywhere and said, watch, suddenly all the images is the man's an idiot, the parents are idiots, the kids are in charge.
That's how we're going to bring down civilization.
They even admitted it at the time.
judge joe brown
Yeah.
Now, let's hook this back up with the Epstein thing.
It is so obvious that Epstein has had international intelligence and security ties.
He is taking this developing thing in this society and he is giving it an outlet.
And he's bringing people in to get their freak in, freak off.
So that makes them even more compromised than they already are.
They become subject to manipulation and control.
There is an interesting thing about Mossad and the Israeli government.
It's not that the CIA, NSA, military intelligence doesn't assassinate somebody on behalf of the American government from time to time, but technically it's against the law and it can land you in Leavenworth, all right?
But for Israel, assassination is a recognized and legitimate and protected form of diplomacy.
There is a distinct possibility from what I've seen and been exposed to that there may be a thing where Israel has its mojo on precisely because it would be indefensible to go against Israel openly for most elected and appointed officials in America.
And if Mossad were to decide to assassinate one or two of them, it would be very clumsy trying to do something about it.
So I think people back off because it's almost like being in an inner city and you can't get out of the hoods.
alex jones
No, I agree.
So Israel, news has been bragging.
They're a superpower because they control America.
I don't hate Israel inherently, but I don't want any foreign power controlling us.
And they like Israel lets people go there to commit crimes here.
It's a zone, kind of a get out of jail free card.
And as people get really upset about Israel, some of us exaggerate and some of it's true.
It's coming to a head.
I had Michael Savage on last week.
He's pro-Israel, but he said he talks to top Israeli leaders and intelligence, the military.
They're concerned that Nyahoo's gone too far and that the amount of pressure that Israel's built against itself is coming to a head.
What do you think about that?
judge joe brown
I think you're exactly right.
Now, you saw the explosions.
alex jones
Yes.
judge joe brown
That's already here set up, ready to go.
You don't need any suicide crew to fly airplanes they've hijacked into the Twin Towers.
They've already set the charges.
All they need to do is get a command to detonate them or go rogue and do it on their own.
Our southern borders have been opened and from 30 to 50 million people have come across in the last four years.
Those folk that hate us have been able to come over here and emplace what they need to do justice on a more efficient basis with military grade explosives.
They do not need to hijack these planes and kill themselves.
They don't need to parachute in from high altitude.
They don't need to take rubber boats from some kind of naval vessel, submarine.
alex jones
No, they've been taking the time.
They've been taking the time.
So, Judge, what do you see here?
judge joe brown
We're here already.
And we are in a situation where it looks like some folk for other purposes have over the years been dealing with Epstein stuff, cooperating with what ought to be our surrogates in the Middle East to do something about spreading their poison.
Now, here's the interesting thing.
I haven't talked to you about this one, but under the Constitution and the authority given to the President of the United States, had Kamala Harris M. Hoff been elected, she has, as Chief Diplomat of the United States, the authority to declare somebody to be in asylum status, to be a political refugee.
She can retroactively date that.
And under American laws, if you have that status and you, let's say you've been backdated, just say January 2020, in five years, you automatically get your citizenship without going to a single class, taking a single test.
So if you retroactively grant that status back to January 2020, Five years from January 2020 has already hit.
And guess what?
There's a midterm election next year.
All of these illegals who could have been declared to be in asylum status would be able to vote.
And somebody that's trying to spread this call, this cult, by any means necessary, now has the ability to bring to bear anywhere from 30 to 60 million people, maybe not that many.
alex jones
And we just had an ICE facility reported an officer shot shot up today in McAllen, Texas.
So we're almost out of time, Judge.
You got to come back soon.
And of course, the JudgeJoe BrownShow.com, Judge Joe Brown TV on X. Big picture, because you're laying out breadcrumbs here and are dead on in my view.
Big picture, what do you think the main challenges are to America the next six months, next few years?
And what is your advice?
What is your advice to President Trump?
judge joe brown
My advice to President Crump is realize that your mega has the genesis of a third viable political party that does not have the baggage of the Republican Party and represents ordinary, hardworking Americans who understand the virtues of classic human character.
Do not listen to mainstream media.
Do not listen to the people who are trying to subvert you being good, normal humans.
They are lying to you.
They need to tune in the outlets like we have going right here.
By the way, we need to get together and do something a little bit more expansive.
alex jones
I need to.
I keep battling this bankruptcy.
Did you know, side issue, I talked to you off air about this.
I need to talk to you about it.
We caught the Justice Department funding it.
Not just, we have all the documents, more stuff's about to come out, but it's been crazy.
It's been absolutely crazy.
Obama literally put a political hit out on me in 2013 with Comey.
We got all those documents from Trump.
And now Moore's come out.
The whole thing, I mean, I knew it was rigged, but Judge, this is a major scandal, separate from me, for anybody.
The level, and the Justice Department is investigating the new Trump Justice Department because they said they've covered up all these big operations, but they were sloppy with you.
And Judge, they were so sloppy.
It is crazy.
judge joe brown
I get it.
I do not have any doubt whatsoever that what you're saying is true.
You know, it's the way they work.
See, you get this leftist crowd.
They're on a holy mission of saving you from yourself.
And in the process, by any means necessary means they lose all sense of character and propriety.
They will do anything that they can do to achieve their ends.
So we have to watch and stop that.
alex jones
Well, that's my final question.
I kind of got to it earlier, but if they're losing, and they are, what do you expect them to pull?
judge joe brown
I expect them to have a spasm.
They are trying to set up, and they failed this summer to have a long, hot summer where they get some issues to get just total uproar in our large urban areas and a lot of mass uprisings of lawlessness.
They don't have that because they don't have a cause that's inspiring people.
Now, that said, I think one of the things that we need to start doing is to turn their methods on them, but with a specific purpose of restoring normalcy.
And I think we can do it.
From what I've been studying with modern communications, it takes about six days for a fad to start in the United States.
And that fad can be a positive one.
And I think we need to commit ourselves.
alex jones
What you're saying is they're a cult.
We need a healthy Americana cult.
We need to launch a bunch of and see what hits.
Yeah.
judge joe brown
And I think since they are what they are, and we are what we are, and we represent the overwhelming, I guess you'd call it silent majority of the American people of humanity, I think we'll prevail.
But we have been bamboozled and convinced that we are on the downside of things and it's going against us.
We only have that happening because we believe that's what's going on and that's not the truth.
alex jones
Beautifully said.
Judge, join us again soon.
Judge Joe Brown TV.
judge joe brown
We got to talk.
Let's talk.
alex jones
Let's do it.
I'll call you today, brother.
God bless you.
Powerful interview.
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