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WEDNESDAY EMERGENCY BROADCAST: Two Major Nuclear Powers India & Pakistan Are Now At War! Plus, AG Pam Bondi Says FBI Has Made Massive Discoveries In The Jeffrey Epstein Child Torture Investigation! Also- Dark Journalist Daniel Liszt Reveals FEMA’s Role With COG Operations In Underground Tunnels/Cities — Must-Watch FULL SHOW 5/7/25
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Infowars.
Tomorrow's news today.
It is Wednesday, May 7th, 2025.
And we're less than 110 days into the return of the American Republic.
We're now entering the 107th day on this Wednesday, May 7th transmission.
And as predicted, by yours truly, it wasn't hard to predict in the last year.
India and Pakistan are now at war officially with each other.
Both are major nuclear weapon-equipped powers.
And in all the cultural military threat matrix analysis by all the major military think tanks in the world, it has been seen as the number one nuclear war trigger in the last 30 years.
Not North Korea, not Russia and Europe.
Now the last three...
Russia and Ukraine moved in the war games to be the number one threat.
That's subsided now.
India, Pakistan now, number one.
And there's a normalcy bias that we've had enough nuclear weapons to destroy the planet since the 50s, really, guaranteed the 60s, that we just won't ever have a big, huge nuclear war because, well, we haven't had one yet.
Well, that is extremely naive thinking.
Look at all the things you see happening today that you never would have imagined would have gone on.
Now, Pakistan does fund Islamic proxy terror networks that continue to attack India on a regular basis.
Islam has been attacking what's left of India for a thousand years, taking almost two-thirds of it.
China is allied with Pakistan in the Kashmir dispute.
And India has been having Skirmishes with the Chinese for many years, those have been escalating.
India and China have been openly threatening to nuke each other the last few months.
But you don't really see that in our newspapers.
And if you go on Facebook or even X, most of the comments and videos you see are people making jokes about 60% of Indians using the bathroom outdoors.
And I know for people that live in civilization, that seems crazy, but just 100 years ago, most of your ancestors crapped in the woods.
And I'm certainly not saying it's a great thing.
My point is that literally you go out there and all you see is jokes of missiles being fired with poop shooting out of them.
And we all get killed by this.
This triggers nuclear war worldwide.
It's just fitting people thought it was a joke.
Very ridiculous.
Just out of control.
Though it is funny.
But getting serious here, we're going to analyze what's happening, what's involved, the larger proxy war, the Belt and Road.
But behind that, the Hindu clash of the last thousand years with the Muslims.
So the Muslims are within an inch of conquering India.
Like everywhere else they invade.
They're always friendly when they first show up.
Very nice people.
But it's their official battle plan to take over.
And Modi is in there, the big nationalist.
And they've retaken a lot of Kashmir that was completely Indian before.
And the Muslims are killing everybody, killing everybody out.
So the Muslims aren't too happy and they won a nuclear war.
And he got a great example of what happens when Muslims have nuclear weapons with Pakistan.
Probably get us all killed.
So, I'm going to explain, though, that if they have a nuclear war, how in all the war games it kicks off into a full global nuclear war.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
The day in November when President Trump was re-elected despite all the globalist opposition, I went on air and I said, the biggest threats we're going to face are the globalists accelerating the war in Ukraine into full nuclear war.
Israel attacking Iran and that going nuclear because they both got nukes.
And the big one, India-Pakistan.
Because China is heavily involved openly militarily confronting India, but also funding and working with Pakistan and with Islamic jihadists to continue to just go into shopping malls, outdoor sporting events, you name it, and just mow.
Hindus down.
They go find where a group of them are and kill them, which the muzzle's been doing for a thousand years.
It's a sport for them.
And back in April, dozens and dozens and dozens of people got mowed down, and Modi knows they're being trained in camps in Pakistan, the Prime Minister of India, and they said, one more time, and we're going to start bombing inside Pakistan.
And they didn't hit official military targets.
They hit a bunch of terrorist training camps.
Reportedly, five Indian jet aircraft have been shot down.
And they're like, well, they are crashing, but we're not sure they got shot down.
No, they're getting shot down.
Pakistanis have a lot of sophisticated weapons, including nukes.
And so in all the big threat matrix, threat escalation studies, Indian Pakistan is always at the top of the list for triggering a nuclear war.
And then if they start having one, in every war game, China gets involved and it goes nuclear.
And in almost every war game, that then spreads to other countries that are lined up, going to total release.
There really aren't many scenarios where nukes get used, even if they're, quote, tactical, that it doesn't lead instantly.
Or near instant to more nukes being used in the theater and then outside the theater.
And then because it's proxy armies in Ukraine fighting, then that makes it legitimate targets on both sides to hit the main powers funding the proxies.
And this is just military doctrine.
And all the major militaries have the same doctrines because they've all been worked out.
Over time, and whatever the very best knowledge and action is, is what gets adopted.
So this is well known for military planners and thinkers.
And in the last few years particularly, but really the last few months, we do reports on this, I noticed on X, that most of the comments are people making jokes about the Indians and the Pakistanis.
And look, It's fun to have jokes, but this is serious, okay?
People need to understand the world's very small, and we don't want a nuclear war.
So we're going to be getting into all the latest developments on that right now.
And then, there is so much child slavery, torture, sex slavery news breaking on so many fronts.
It's just dizzying.
We have Representative James Comer, very respected, great track record of accuracy, claims Epstein files have been destroyed, accuses federal government of the cover-up.
And then we've got Pam Bondi at the end of a big press conference with Kash Patel just an hour ago.
Justice Department announces results of Operation Restored Justice, 205 child sex abuse offenders.
Should be rape, torture offenders of children, arrested in FBI-led nationwide crackdown, including five in the Western District of Texas, where we've got more details on it.
You will be hunted down, 205 arrested in an FBI operation targeting child sex predators.
And then as an aside, Pam Bondi, after the press conference, gets asked by a reporter, and the great part about it is there's really independent, Reporters now everywhere that have bigger audiences than the dinosaur media.
And the reporter asked about Epstein update.
And she says the FBI has, quote, tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children and child porn.
There are hundreds of victims.
Now, she said that almost two months ago when they raided the FBI offices in.
New York that wouldn't turn them over to her and I've confirmed what she said at the time that it's been given to all the FBI field offices around the country just like you saw with this big nationwide bust of people actually trafficking and raping kids and producing horrible sex child exploitation garbage.
So my job is not just out of hand defending Kash Patel and Pam Bondi.
I've independently confirmed people inside the FBI that they've been given this stuff.
It's absolutely horrible.
So there was 14 terabytes.
Let this sink in.
Plus, the Democrat-controlled, Comey-controlled, Comey's daughter was over the investigation in New York.
They were holding all of it from around the country.
Anytime that was the order that was found around the country, it was sent to her.
Comey's daughter, and then they would have little show trials but limit the information that came out, like Ghislaine Maxwell and others.
So that is a huge story then, and it's repeated today, that I've confirmed from FBI sources.
And Kyle Serafin right here confirming it with his FBI sources.
Very respected FBI whistleblower, but he confirmed here with me, showed me the sources.
He was talking to you right then during breaks with the FBI in D.C. and other areas.
Saying, yeah, no, we got 14 plus terabytes and what Bondi said is in there is in there.
So I was like, hey, they got it.
People are like, well, release it.
You want to release the child porn?
The child rape?
No, no, I mean, you have to send it.
If you're not covering up, you send it out to all the FBI for them to be able to look at it and find if that's in their jurisdiction.
And that's how it's supposed to work.
So I said, well, now we'll see if then we get some action on this.
And almost two months has gone by.
And we're doing a racketeering case where it goes from the bottom up.
It takes some time.
We are seeing a lot of action arresting pedophiles by the hundreds every few days, including police officers, judges.
I mean, it's bad.
I got stacks of it here.
But where are the clients of Epstein?
The child torturers, and they call them Johns.
It's not a guy going out with a prostitute that's willfully selling her body who's of age.
Don't compare something like that to this.
Two different universes.
And so the jury for me is out on this.
It'll take some time to go over all this.
It's huge.
But then it ties into what James Comer, Representative Comer is saying, Congressman Comer is saying, That the word he's got is there was a lot of other stuff got destroyed.
Well, undoubtedly.
I'm surprised they got 14 terabytes what they got.
But why did Pam Bondi have a press conference about the 205 hardcore child predators?
That's a good press conference.
I'm glad she had it.
But why not a press conference about the status of the 14 terabytes of kids getting raped?
And every time I mention what she said months ago on Fox, people go, really?
That was said?
Yeah.
And she just said it again.
So I'm going to say it.
I want press conferences and updates on a weekly basis about Epstein.
Because that's not grassroots, which are terrible and just as bad pedo operations.
It's an elite one being used to blackmail control our government.
So it's a major national security issue.
But I don't blame the general public for not being able to really follow this.
It's not your main job.
And so there's a lot of misunderstanding here about exactly what's going on.
But we will soon approach the time when we will find out if somebody inside the Justice Department Is slow rolling this or covering this up?
I can't say that at this point.
But we will learn from our FBI sources when they're ready to prosecute with all the information they've now been given, which is the right thing to do.
You don't do that if you're covering up.
Give it out to the FBI nationwide.
And again, the public is confused and goes, we've known about Epstein for 15 years.
Release it.
No, they just got this.
The Democrats were hiding it and the FBI from D.C. had to raid the FBI in New York.
Which, again, was sensationally important.
But now, I don't see how Pam Bondi, when they start reporting back to the prosecutors at their regional systems, I don't see how she or the FBI office, which would be Ed Martin, who they're trying to block getting confirmed right now as the U.S. attorney there,
because we know Martin's got great integrity, I don't see how they're then going to go to the local FBI office and say, no, you can't, you know, Stop investigating that or stop getting data on that and we're not going to call a grand jury and we're not going to indict these people.
So you don't give them all of that and decentralize it if you're going to then tell them to cover it up.
That's the opposite.
So I just don't think you're going to see that.
And two months seems like a long time.
That's not with investigations like this.
I mean, they're having to go through hundreds of victims just on the Epstein thing and the men raping them.
I mean, that's the Attorney General saying that.
There are reports, and it's supposedly the first tranche of us coming out today, that James O 'Keefe's, one of the two big stories he's breaking, is about someone in the Trump administration covering up Epstein.
And then he put out a little short trailer yesterday that shows an image, still shot of video of Pam Bondi.
So he didn't tell me the specifics.
When he called me and me alone as a dead man switch, which I was, I guess, flattered by.
I think you might be the only person that I know has the integrity to tell this in case something happens.
And then when he told me, I was like, yeah, you are in danger, buddy.
He told me the other stuff, too.
But he wouldn't even say who in the administration.
I made some phone calls.
And I told the crew over the weekend, I said, it's Pam Bondi.
According to my sources.
Because the White House already knows about this.
So I wouldn't even I wouldn't even tell the crew last week what the specifics were because I don't want to endanger them.
And then there's two other big stories and it looks like this little promo video that he put out.
He's kind of putting the three together because it's a big Pfizer news.
And then some more Epstein news connected to the Democrats.
But I'm going to stop right there and wait and see what he puts out today.
So we're going to be watching, obviously, his ex-account.
Keep me in a grip very, very closely.
Now, I said I'm just mentioning what's coming up.
But I...
I kind of covered it there, but I'm going to actually play the clips.
But the fact that when I get on air, and I even talk to other journalists, and they don't know that Pam Bondi said that, yeah, there's thousands and thousands of videos of kids getting raped with men in Epstein, and we've given it to the FBI field offices, and then I checked with the FBI, multiple people, not just Serafin, who showed me, the people he's talking to during the breaks, In the D.C. office saying, and another one saying, yeah, I mean, it's horrible.
And we need to get Kyle back on the next few days, by the way.
He's a fellow Austinite.
Call him, please.
We really need to have him on to navigate all this.
But the fact that people don't even know that, and then now she just said it again, hey, Pam, you need to have a press conference.
And again, she did go have the D.C. thing, D.C. raid the New York.
She did release it down to the states.
To the FBI offices in the States.
So that's not what you do when you're covering something up.
So I don't know what the specifics are.
I don't know what O 'Keefe's going to put out.
I am sick at my stomach.
Literally.
I just got a sick feeling on my stomach.
Because you don't do a lot of the things she's doing and then being bad.
Or maybe she discovered that stuff was going to come out, so she's trying to be good.
I mean, I don't think from what I heard that it's her involved with Epstein.
I would say, well, it's just, yeah, cover up.
So, and thank God, nobody in the Trump family, some people would think, oh, it's RFK Jr. because he knew Epstein a little bit.
No.
And that was a whew.
Because I asked him, I said, it's not RFK.
He goes, I can't comment.
I said, please tell me it's not.
He goes, I can't comment.
And then I made calls.
And it's just, it's crazy.
So, but this attempt to keep Ed Martin out of the U.S. attorney position in D.C. is absolutely critical.
And we will get him confirmed.
They even got neocons and Republicans trying to block him.
For absolutely no reason, because while he talks about a fedsurrection, we don't appreciate that.
Yeah, they're scared because Ed Martin has said he knows the Democrats set up January 6th.
Hell, I know that.
I was there.
I witnessed it.
You've all seen the evidence.
And now that they are trying to block him, it just shows how scared they are.
So we're going to be going over that as well.
And what Senator Tom Tillis is up to from North Carolina, so-called Republican.
So there's that.
We have George Papadopoulos on, who is, again, National Security Advisor in the White House.
He is quite the buff on the Pakistan-India situation.
We'll also pick his brain about Crossfire Hurricane coming out that he was targeted in that's now been released by Kash Patel that just proves the totally legal activity against America and how he was innocent and how Trump was innocent and how I was innocent.
I'm in there, of course, being targeted.
And so we'll cover the waterfront with him.
Then dark journalist Daniel List is going to be joining us.
You know, I saw Catherine Austin Fitz.
On Tucker last week, it was kind of a delayed interview.
It was big at the time, but since then it just gets bigger and bigger and bigger because she's an expert at forensic accounting.
Her job was the deputy head of HUD.
She ran at the actual accounting.
She's a genius at it.
Well known for that.
And she found $21 trillion in siphoned and hidden money that That literally and figuratively disappears into a hole in the ground and that they know that a lot of it's attached to COG, continuity of government.
And so I thought, you know, Daniel List is a real expert on this.
So am I. I mean, I've forgotten more than most people will remember.
So I didn't really comment on it last week because I wanted to dig up a lot of the research I had in my brain, but I wanted to actually have it for you.
So if you want to know the most that's known by people Not in the super shadow mad scientist government.
If you want to know what the best info is on the scale and scope and design and reason for these underground cities, because the media, corporate media, Yahoo tried to spit it.
Wow, this crazy former Bush administration official.
Claims there's an underground $21 trillion building.
It's not a building, it's a whole network of underground transportation systems, railways, bases, you name it.
Nuclear power, all of it.
And there's a ton of it.
I mean, just what's known, but most people don't know about, what is already known is just staggering.
And of course, people know about a lot of the main entrances to these places.
Those are just entrances.
Mount Weather, Site R, Cheyenne Mountain.
But there's a big one underneath the Bergstrom Airport.
There's a big one, not a rumor, under the Denver International Airport.
There's a gigantic one out under Fort Hood.
Because I know the people that have been in it.
And I know people that are dead now that built it.
So, and their knowledge was compartmentalized.
When my dad was in a government program in high school, Plan 2 at UT, they took them down and said, you know, don't tell anybody, but showed them underground nuclear reactor that nobody knew was under UT and a bunch of others.
Stuff.
And that's how they entice young research students and stuff.
Oh, you know, we have a secret human-animal cloning program, but don't tell anybody.
If you work with us, we'll let you in on it.
And they just have seduced millions of people into the technocracy.
Millions.
So you think they just kept the Manhattan Project secret?
No.
That was the model of how they do this.
And when you think about underground bases, they show you SAC commands and...
So you know about those bases, but they don't tell you what they're connected to, like Bergstrom.
Not a secret, it was the second-designate SAC command.
And now they got it up in Iowa.
But, I mean, that's the former SAC command right here.
So of course there's giant underground stuff under, but...
My grandfather had friends that were contractors that built it or worked on it.
And again, it's got railways all the way out to Fort Hood, up to Dallas, and that's the people I knew that saw stuff, so that's as much as they were able to see.
Because again, everybody's compartmentalized.
You only see pieces of it.
But you talk to enough people that have seen pieces of it, then you can put the whole thing together.
That's real intelligence.
That's how you reverse engineer things.
Real intelligence is on-the-ground observation, not what the media tells you.
I mean, take CERN.
It's a lot bigger, and there's a lot more stuff going on people know about.
People think they shut down the superconducting supercollider up in North Texas.
Eh, some other things going on there.
So, oh, look, it's Sheba, the god of destruction, that they got out at CERN.
All right, we're going to go to break.
I'm going to come back and judiciously focus on the India-Pakistan, two nuclear powers, now officially at war.
And then I'm going to get into all the huge pedophile busts that just happened and all the other incredible news surrounding that.
Representative Comer saying there's a cover-up.
Well, undoubtedly there is.
I mean, the scandal is the Democrats sat on 14 terabytes in New York and Kash Patel had to raid it.
And now the ball is in the FBI's hand.
And then when it goes for prosecution, in Pam Bondi's hand.
And then if we don't see that, with her admitting it's hundreds of kids being raped by Epstein and other men, I've got her saying it again today, well then that's total proof of a cover-up.
But I'm not going to sit there and say that they're bad when, on all those fronts, looks incredibly good.
Except the James O 'Keefe thing.
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Which I can't wait to see.
alex jones
I mean, I hope it's just something bad, but not that bad, or out of context or something.
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I don't.
alex jones
I just, because I'm getting mixed signals out of Pam Bondi.
I'm not getting them out of Cash Patel.
All right, we'll be right back on the other side with the Indian News and so much more today.
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All right, this India-Pakistan situation is the most dangerous thing on Earth right now, in my view, because they've de-escalated Ukraine some and the Iran-Israel crisis a lot.
And look at these headlines.
Nuclear war could break out at any time warns Pakistan defense boss after India airstrikes as nation sits on the brink.
Pakistan vows to respond after India launches strikes in wake of Kashmir massacre.
Pakistan authorizes military to avenge India strikes.
Operation Sindor.
Why India attacked Pakistan and conflict has escalated dramatically.
We'll get into that some.
They've had three wars the last 30 years.
They've been non-stop fighting in Kashmir.
Death continually.
I mean, they're already at war.
It's just not official.
And again, they keep sending in Pakistan jihadi terror forces and they claim, oh, that's not us doing that.
And they kill a whole bunch of Indians on a routine basis inside India.
India preps for possible retaliation.
After hitting Pakistan with missile strikes as Kashmir tensions soar.
And the way to boil it down, Infowars.com.
Nuclear powers India and Pakistan are now at war.
Operation Sindor.
Pakistan PM calls Indian missile strikes.
Active war says they know well how to deal with the enemy.
He goes on to say it's an act of war.
So, they reportedly shot down five Indian jet aircraft.
That looks to be true.
They're definitely crashing.
I don't think they're falling out of the sky on their own.
And you can go over the history of it.
There's good boil downs everywhere.
Just type in the history of the India-Pakistan modern conflicts and wars.
But India hit.
Terror training camps reportedly did kill people they were trying to kill, or at least many of them.
You can ask Grok the basic history of it, or I could just go over it myself.
But there's a longer history, obviously, in the three major wars they've had in the last 30 years.
But on April 22nd, what's triggered the latest crisis, terror attack in that region of Kashmir.
Killing 26 people, most Indian tourists in a scenic spot.
India attributed the attack to militants backed by Pakistan.
Well, Pakistan denied any involvement, even though they're using them as a proxy force.
This incident marked a significant escalation of the tensions.
And then the cross-border attacks intensified, and India started attacking Pakistan positions on the border and on areas of Kashmir held by Pakistan.
You got China right there with proxy armies.
Exchanging fire on a routine basis.
Pakistan launches more countermeasures.
It's just a threat escalation ladder.
More continued cross-border skirmishes April 25th, 26th.
May 1st, international calls for de-escalation.
May 6th, prelude to military strikes.
Pakistan predicted they were coming May 7th.
India launches Operation Sindor.
Hits the terror training camps, five jets get shot down.
Today, Pakistan's response to international reactions, and they're going to strike back, but we'll choose their time to do it.
And so, anytime you've got two nuclear powers, three of them really, China's right there, it's a problem.
And where's the problem coming from again?
It's coming from Islam.
Because if you go back before Islam existed, 1,500 years ago, and the last thousand, by the time Islam got up to India, India was almost three times bigger and a dominant empire.
And now it's been chopped up and turned into Islam.
And Islam, of course, always wants it all.
And the Indians, under their Hindu nationalist Modi, have said, we're not putting up with it.
So they've retaken most of Kashmir under Modi.
They pushed the Chinese out of areas of Kashmir.
And India openly said to China, you want to go to war, let's go.
India has the largest population in the world surpassing China two years ago.
And it is a time bomb.
And the time bomb is ticking.
Now here's Trump with a basic...
Trumpian fact, and he's right, they've been fighting a long time, but not just the three major wars in the last 30 years.
They've been fighting for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years.
And you see it all over the Western news.
Look, India is persecuting Muslims, tearing down mosques.
Well, the Muslims don't even get permits.
They just start building them in wall-off neighborhoods and take over and don't even follow the zoning rules.
Then they take over the town, the city, the region.
That's what they've been doing to them for a thousand years.
So, India is not attacking Islam.
India is hanging on by its fingernails and trying to not be overtaken by Islam.
Just like I look at who started the war with Russia.
NATO pushed in, surrounded them the last 30 years.
Overthrew elected governments in all those different countries.
Had coups.
Started persecuting and militarily attacking Russian enclaves in eastern Ukraine.
And Soros bragged we're going to start a war with Russia and have a long military operation and bankrupt them.
And that's what the EU Commission has said.
So the West started that.
I just look at who starts it.
And I look at who started this with the Indians, the Muslims.
So I'm like, leave the Indians alone.
Look at the countries Muslims control.
Pull up a world map showing Islamic countries.
They got like half the damn world and it's never enough.
Because Muhammad told them it belongs to them and you will submit to Islam by surrendering or by the sword.
And your women will be sold into sex slavery.
I always love how the Muslims have recruited them.
Prisons in the U.S. And how black people somehow got convinced that Islam was their buddy.
Nobody's enslaved more black people than Islam.
I mean, that's what Muhammad was, was a slaver.
He says in the Quran that black people are subhuman.
But you don't really have Muslims reading the Quran.
Black Muslims, I guess.
And they get thrown, blacks get thrown in prison, and then They get segregated with the other black folks and the imams run it.
And then they sit there and they brainwash them.
Even people that didn't go to prison, like Cassius Clay, Muhammad Ali, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, they all changed their name to it.
It's bizarre.
But people don't know history, so they're doomed to repeat it.
The people perish for lack of knowledge.
So, I think Patrick McDavid did a nice boil down on this.
Play Trump and then play Patrick McDavid talking about the situation with two major nuclear powers now at war with each other.
Here it is.
donald j trump
Any questions for Steve?
unidentified
Mr. President, what have you reaction to the attacks between India and Pakistan?
donald j trump
No, it's a shame.
We just heard about it just as we were walking in the doors of the Oval.
Just heard about it.
I guess people knew something was going to happen based on a little bit of the past.
They've been fighting for a long time.
You know, they've been fighting for many, many decades and centuries, actually, if you really think about it.
No, I just hope it ends very quickly.
unidentified
India just bombed Pakistan.
India literally just attacked Pakistan, and this is not good.
This attack was a reaction to what happened on 22nd when five militants from Pakistan terrorist group come in and killed 26 only men.
They allowed their wives to live.
They killed 26 men, letting the women know, go show Modi what we did.
They had the folks who said, what religion are you?
I'm Hindu.
Boom, kill them.
What religion are you?
I'm Muslim.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Why don't you tell me the Islamic Kalima?
They don't have it.
Boom!
donald j trump
Kill them.
unidentified
Now, why does this matter?
Because when you think about the top countries in the world with the most nuclear arsenal, you know where Pakistan and India are?
Neck and neck.
One sixth place, which is India, with 172.
The other is 170.
And by the way, do you know how a Pakistani official just responded to Al Jazeera named Faisal Kundi?
You know what he said about nuclear weapons?
Listen to this.
Our nuclear bombs are not meant to be displayed in museums.
We will use them if attacked by...
India, all is fair in love and in war.
He said this on April 30th.
Today's the attack by India.
This could escalate like this.
And the reason why this has happened, a lot of people are talking about going back to, hey, when you think about, is this like a World War III possibility?
Because we can't have those two guys go at it.
Or is this more like Cold War?
What happened where Russia was communism and they were behind all the Korean War, Vietnam War, all the, you know, even some of the war that was happening with the Iran-Contra, they're behind it.
It's more like in this situation, China's behind everything because they're instigating Pakistan.
Is U.S. all of a sudden going to get involved with this?
Russia's kind of involved because they got a very good relationship with India.
60% of the military equipment that India uses, they bought from Russia and 40% of the oil that Russia sells.
India is the customer.
So there's a very interesting dynamic going on here.
We're going to talk about that today.
Yeah.
Yeah.
alex jones
I'm not a drama queen.
You know, people see movies and TV that are about real things that happen or fictional and people are dramatic about something and they go, oh.
And when I'm dramatic about something, people kind of go, oh, well, he's just being dramatic.
No, no.
Sometimes you're being dramatic because it is dramatic.
Like James O 'Keefe coming out last week and saying, This is so dangerous.
You know, one of the most dangerous stories ever.
I'm going into hiding.
And a lot of people said, oh, he's, you know, that's just drama.
No, it's not drama when you're really releasing something dangerous.
And you're really saying, I'm going into hiding.
And he looks concerned and walks off the camera.
Because he's a guy in the arena with an incredible track record of some of the most dangerous and most important stories ever.
So see, and in having to soul search about even putting it out.
So people see something like that and they go, oh, that looks like a movie.
No, no, no.
The movies are recreating real-type things that happened in history.
So when I'm up here dramatic saying I'm really concerned about India and Pakistan, I'm not like, ooh, I'm really concerned because, ooh, I want to get you excited about it.
No, it's as dangerous as hell.
I mean, almost everybody I know has family that died from fentanyl or opiates.
When I get up here pissed off about it, it's because I fear for my family.
Thank God my children don't use drugs.
One of them's 8 years old, one's 22, 20, 17. But it's not like they didn't admit sometime trying it and then hating it.
I did that too.
But you can smoke marijuana now on a routine basis and they put frickin' fentanyl in it and you die!
And you see...
We need to get upset.
God gave us those instincts to intellectually make a decision about things that are dangerous, and then you have the emotion to drive you.
You don't have emotion controlling you, but then when you make an intellectual, spiritual, hard decision and decide to do the right thing, then you back it with emotion.
I can be up here sometimes at 10 o 'clock at night and there's more news to do.
And I'm totally exhausted.
And I literally just go look in the mirror, splash water on my face and say, man up.
You gotta fight these people.
And it's going...
And I give myself the energy I need.
Because God gave me that.
And God gave that to you too.
But I'm gonna stop there on the India-Pakistan thing and hit some more news right now because we're gonna have Papadopoulos on to get into more of it and his angle and a bunch of other political stuff coming up next hour.
Perfect guest to have on right now.
They're trying to block Ed Martin to be the U.S. Attorney in D.C. And so much more.
That is all coming up.
James O 'Keefe texted me just about 10 minutes ago, and he said they're dropping the first big piece of, I don't know which exact story he's releasing today.
You get a pretty good idea from the little trailer he put out.
It's got Pam Bondi on it.
But again, I want to be clear.
I don't have the specifics.
He didn't give me the specifics.
And it's going to be obviously a story we're going to be covering when it comes out here on air.
So please stay with us for that.
I think he said 3 p.m. Eastern, so we'll be on air.
He said 3 p.m. today.
I wonder if he's talking about Eastern or Central.
probably Eastern.
unidentified
So, yeah.
Yeah.
alex jones
Fourth hour today.
So as soon as it comes out, we'll have it.
We'll be on it.
unidentified
Alright.
alex jones
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But now I want to just get specific videos of what I was talking about.
So here's Pam Bondi at the end of a major press conference today that we're going to be playing later with Kash Patel, where they just busted 205 child sex rapists, sex torture film producers.
It's not porn.
And.
Thank you.
you Thank you.
And that's all part of Operation Restore Justice.
But at the end of it, she's talking to the press.
I'll just show it to you.
Clip 21. A.G. Bondi says the FBI has, quote, tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child porn.
There are hundreds of victims.
Now, she said that almost two months ago.
Again.
Then I talked to our FBI sources, and they said, yeah, it's all been sent out to the offices.
People volunteer.
It's a volunteer deal, and I understand why, to go in.
I mean, Kyle's talking to the FBI agents that were going in.
And I texted him like a week ago and said, please come on.
He said, yes, but we need to get that done, because that guy's a fountain of accurate information.
And so that's a huge issue that's out there.
And now they're investigating it because it was hidden before by the New York office and the Democrats.
That's why they had the raid two months ago when they wouldn't hand it over.
But why is the AG not having a full press conference on this?
Why is it an aside?
Because this is big.
For national security, the victims so much more.
So, and again, every time I mention this to gastro people, they go, really?
Pam Bonney said there's all these videos, all these victims?
Yeah, she said all this before, except she went further to say video of it.
She said there's evidence of the abusive kids with the men.
That's obviously video.
Then I talk to the FBI sources, they go, no, it's video.
It's video.
It's horrible.
And now she's gone further, and I'm just like, why is this not a top story?
I mean, this is a big deal.
Here it is.
unidentified
James Palmer said yesterday that all the Epstein files are missing.
pam bondi
No, no, the FBI, yeah, the FBI, they're reviewing, there are tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child porn, and there are hundreds of victims.
And no one victim will ever get released.
It's just the volume, and that's what they're going through right now.
The FBI is diligently going through that.
I haven't seen that statement, but I'll call him later and find out.
alex jones
I mean, that is just incredible.
So I'm going to say it again.
If you're covering it up, you don't raid the New York FBI with Comey and his daughter and all over the case hiding it and lying to her and saying they didn't have it.
And saying, this is everything.
And then she puts it out and looks like a fool.
And she immediately comes out and says, I was set up by these people.
She has it grabbed.
Kash Patel grabs it.
It goes to the field offices where it's supposed to.
That's the opposite of a cover-up.
And then she just says, it's the volume.
And that's what Kyle Serafin and others confirmed to me, is they go, yeah, it's over 14 terabytes and it's horrible.
unidentified
So...
alex jones
They need to get this out as quick as possible.
They need to start indicting fast because the globalists are leaving the country, they're committing suicide, they're getting arc decided, and they're trying to cover up their trail right now.
But I understand it's a big job, so we'll be right back.
Stay with us.
More videos on this subject right ahead.
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alex jones
All right, so here is another piece of the puzzle.
Representative James Comer says Epstein files may have been destroyed.
Well, you know they destroyed a bunch of them.
Accuses federal government of possible cover-up.
Here he is on the Benny Johnson program.
benny johnson
What's next?
I mean, we did a little bit of a preview on the Epstein files, obviously.
That's like finding a unicorn in Washington, D.C. You have come on and talked about that on this program, just for the sake of transparency, which is very big for you.
And so, in closing, Any motion on that?
Any movement on that?
We hear that there's a timeline now.
james comer
I hope James has the Epstein files because I don't think the Department of Justice has them, or at least the Attorney General does not have them or she would have turned them over.
The President ordered them released.
The Attorney General ordered them released.
We all know they have not been released.
And one of my biggest fears that I had, and I expressed this with, was Kash Patel and a lot of people.
Stephen Miller and a lot of people going into the new administration.
I'm like, you know, I hope they're not shredding documents right now.
This was a few weeks before the transition.
I said, I hope they're not shredding documents.
But you all need to go on that first day and try to get all this stuff released because, you know, my fear is from what I've dealt with in investigations and in communication with this deep state.
Apparatus is they're probably in their shredding documents as we speak.
So hopefully someone has a copy of that.
And, you know, I hope we find out because our task force has done everything led by Anna Polina Luna.
You had her on your show many times.
I mean, she's relentless.
She's persistent.
She's pretty frustrated right now that these files haven't been released.
Even though the president and the attorney general have ordered them released.
I told Anna the same thing I told Patel and everybody else.
You assume that somebody in the deep state said, okay, we'll just put these in a file back here, this incriminating evidence on everybody, and maybe the next administration can do whatever they want to do with it.
That's unfortunately the way it's supposed to work, but it hasn't worked.
With this deep state.
benny johnson
So they're just going to let the incriminating evidence sit there smoldering.
That could put them all in prison.
james comer
Yeah, they should.
That's what they're supposed to do.
But, you know, you and I have dealt with them.
You've covered the deep state as well as anyone.
I mean, they cover their tracks.
And it's just hard for me to believe they're going to leave incriminating evidence.
If the government was involved, if the government wasn't involved, I don't think they would have any reason to protect Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton.
They're never going to be elected anything again.
I don't think they would have any reason to protect Bill Gates or anybody else.
The concern I've always had about the Epstein file was the government involved.
Did the government know?
Was the government using Epstein and the videos to blackmail the most influential people around the world?
If that's the case, then they knew there were...
Victims of sex crimes there.
And they did nothing.
So, you know, that's the concern I have.
If the government covers this up, I don't believe it's because of any love affair or affection for the Clinton family, just like I never believed they were hiding and covering for the Bidens because they loved Joe Biden.
It was because they hated Donald Trump, you know, and they didn't want...
Their agencies to be disrupted.
The same thing with the Epstein files.
I don't know this, but my concern is that the government may have known a lot more and may have been an active participant, maybe with the intentions of intelligence gathering.
Who knows?
But at the end of the day, I don't think the American people would be okay if the government knew that crimes against young women were occurring.
And yet they did nothing to intervene.
alex jones
All right, we're going to break.
George Papadopoulos, one of the main targets of the deep state, of course exonerated, proven to be totally innocent.
They were the crooks.
Crossfire hurricane coming out so much more.
But we're going to be getting into the India conflict with Pakistan that's so dangerous first, and then covering the waterfront and all these other big scandals, and his review of the first 107 days of the Trump administration.
Stay with us.
We are now into hour number two of this Wednesday, May 7th, 2025 transmission.
George Papadopoulos is the perfect guest for us to have on right now.
He, of course, was a former foreign policy advisor to President Trump in his first administration.
He was one of the first people targeted by Comey's FBI slash CIA crossfire hurricane dirty tricks operation.
It's now come out in the documents.
They knew they were innocent.
They knew it was made up.
And they said, oh, we can't let the American people or the Russians know John Brennan was telling Obama when they were setting it up when Trump was the nominee.
And those documents got released a few weeks ago by FBI Director Kosh Patel at President Trump's direction.
And I wanted to get George Papadopoulos on then, but he was unable to come on.
But we can talk about that out of the day because it's so important.
Talk about vindication, not just for him, but vindication for Trump, the American people, and of course we're not Russian agents.
It's freaking ridiculous.
They accused me of that too.
Anybody that doesn't want to sell the country, I don't want nuclear war, must be a Russian agent.
Preposterous.
And I also want to get into all the latest scandals and how they're trying to block the D.C. U.S. Attorney Ed Martin.
And what Papadopoulos is hearing about what's really going on with the Epstein files and what's going to really happen with that.
Pambani coming out just today at a press conference and saying, oh yeah, just thousands of videos of kids getting raped with men and hundreds of victims of child porn being produced by Jeffrey Epstein.
And I gave it to all the FBI when they raided the New York FBI offices that were hiding it.
I want to hear about indictments of the head FBI agent.
Okay, he resigned in D.C. When D.C. raided New York, that's open and shut right there.
I mean, this is wild.
But she says they're processing through it, and they're going to prosecute.
All right.
So we've got all of that.
And the trade war looks to me like U.S. is winning big time and has all the cards, but you wouldn't believe that if you saw the corporate media and what they're saying.
George Papadopoulos is...
Uniquely situated as the former advisor of the president on foreign policy to give us his take on all of these incredibly important issues.
He is an American political consultant, author, and former foreign policy advisor to Trump.
Born in Chicago to Greek parents, he holds degrees from DePaul University, University College London.
He gained attention during the Mueller investigation.
Pleading guilty to false statements, which they did to Flynn as well.
2017, serving 12 days in prison and receiving a presidential pardon in 2020.
Papadopoulos authored Deep State Target 2019 and has since engaged in media consulting and energy policy discussions.
George Papa 19 on X. And again, folks, Flynn pled guilty, did nothing wrong, and was exonerated.
Papadopoulos said because...
If you don't have millions of dollars, you can't do it.
We raised Owen Schroer $400,000 here, and they blew through all that, persecuted him for doing nothing, so he finally pled guilty and got four months in prison.
They said he went in the building and attacked people.
He works for me, was with us trying to stop people going in.
They don't care.
And do we have millions of dollars to then go to a D.C. jury that would send the Virgin Mary to prison?
So it's just insane.
But totally exonerated, totally innocent, George Papadopoulos.
We'll get into that in the latest on Crossfire Hurricane.
Those incredible documents came out a few weeks ago that didn't get the attention they deserved.
Talking about proof of criminal activity against the electorate, against an elected president, against our country.
I mean, it's a coup is what it is.
So what an incredible time to be alive.
George, thanks for joining us.
george papadopoulos
Thanks a lot, Alex, for having me.
alex jones
Well, let's get into India.
I know you've been all over this, and you've got the whole angle on this being kind of a proxy war between India and Pakistan, positioning for the Belt and Road Initiative.
I know China's been heavily involved backing Pakistan and the Kashmir region.
Major conflict, obviously, and skirmishes over the years with the Chinese and the Indians.
I think you can type in, folks, to X or YouTube.
Indian troops clash with Chinese troops, Kashmir and other disputed areas.
It's wild stuff.
But now this huge new escalation, Pakistan's Prime Minister says this has been an act of war, that they're at war, they're going to retaliate.
Obviously, you can go through the different strikes if you'd like, but George, tell us what's really going on here.
george papadopoulos
Yeah, Alex, I mean, this is a significant escalation among two nuclear-armed powers in Southeast Asia.
You have the largest democracy by population in India, which is a strategic partner of the United States.
You also, of course, have numerous agreements with Russia and other countries.
You then have Pakistan, a predominantly Muslim state in which the United States coordinated semi-closely with throughout the so-called War on Terror.
And, of course, all the failures that went into that entire debacle, including with bin Laden being discovered right outside of a Pakistani We're not
looking at the historical anecdotes.
We're looking at the modern day.
The United States and China are now the two preeminent powers of the world and both have vexing interests in cutting one another off from the ultimate prize, which are the new trade corridors and new energy corridors, which are not only going to transport energy, but also goods from the Asian market into the Middle East and to Europe.
And China and India now are in a very unique position.
Because, of course, with the Trump administration seeking to rebalance trade and to repatriate industries away from China, back into the United States market, you're also going to have these lower-skilled manufacturing jobs, you know, making dolls, toy soldiers, iPhone parts, that kind of stuff.
Those mini old jobs are also going to have to be produced somewhere.
And India has been designated that country for those sources in order to hedge against China.
So here's what's happening, just to make it a little simple.
China and Pakistan and Turkey have a strategic alliance.
And this isn't simply rooted because they like one another at a personal level, but because China wants to hedge India.
That's why China now is building the Gwadar port and a military and naval facility at the Gwadar port in the Indian Ocean offshore.
This is intended to keep India at bay.
And what China has also been succeeding in doing is creating the one belt, one road trade route, which goes from China into different parts of the world, Central Asia through Turkey into Europe.
That's the ultimate goal.
So you're going to see, and this is something that I've predicted for a very long time, that countries like Turkey were going to escalate not only rhetoric, but probably get involved militarily, which they have in the Middle East.
Because India is going to use Israel to export their goods into the Mediterranean, into the European market.
And then, of course, you have the United States now with President Trump signing robust defense agreement deals with Prime Minister Modi just last month in the Oval Office.
And the pledge by President Trump to make India this new hub for the low-skilled manufacturing and some of these other products that are going to leave the Chinese market.
We are dealing with a new great game, Alex, which the United States is in direct competition with China to secure these new trade routes and energy routes from Asia into the Middle East and Europe.
And it's going to get a lot more heated, a lot more bloody before it's all said and done.
alex jones
That's very well broken down.
Explain to people that don't know what the great game is from the British Empire, then a modern version of that, the grand chessboard, Zeman Brzezinski, and the U.S. really foreign policy in Central Asia, really for that whole area of the world the last 45 years, and continued on.
And then in a larger global view, this new political, cultural, economic, Realignment that's happening and versus the rhetoric, what new alliances are actually forming?
Because you have Russia really allied with India, not supposedly with China on every front, but China's allied with Russia on the Ukraine war.
That's a big game changer.
Then obviously you have the Indians, the first to sign on to Trump's new deal, a new alliance.
China, I see, is already being majorly isolated.
They're devastated with riots all over their country.
They need us.
We don't need them.
We still held the cards, but we were losing the cards.
So there's a lot to unpack there.
A lot of thousands of years of history coming to a head, but everything obviously is about trade and geopolitical issues.
But looking at this, kind of start at the end, I would just state...
This is the only moves we had left to make, and they're great moves, and we're winning, but there's still going to be a lot of friction, as you said, as these different groups try to use military actions to try to get in positions to stop this realignment that's happening.
And we only really in the alliances now see China allied economically with the EU.
I've even seen Democrats rooting against Trump in America on CNN last night.
We have a clip saying, ha ha ha, you know, China's going to defeat Trump.
China's winning.
Well, that's not even true.
Do they not know how sick they look up there rooting against America and putting on a front that we're losing when, from my assessment, we're winning?
Or is all of that accurate?
Some of it accurate?
What do you think, George?
george papadopoulos
No, I think you're right on, Alex.
And look, there are a lot of moving parts here.
This is all happening in real time.
And four years of disastrous incompetence, not leadership by the Biden administration, really helped usher in this new era that we're now living, with China attempting to usurp the United States' leadership role, both militarily, politically, and, of course, economically.
And that's really what the BRICS drive was all about.
The moment that Putin went into Ukraine based on...
Biden nudging Ukraine into exceeding into NATO, basically hosting various bio labs and potentially U.S. or European boots on the ground.
Putin goes in and what happens?
They get sanctioned.
Now, when Putin became sanctioned, that created an opportunity for Russia and for other countries that have been sanctioned in the past to say, wait a minute, if we could get sanctioned and we could have our assets frozen.
globally by the U.S. Treasury and have these punitive sanctions prevent us from exporting to the so-called We need an alternative.
And that's really why the Russians stopped using SWIFT, why that was such a disaster for the United States, why sanctions basically put Russia into the arms of China, why China made Russia a junior partner.
And then, of course, you had the momentum to try to demonetize.
The world off the global reserve currency, which is the US dollar.
All that was happening at an incredibly rapid pace under Biden.
And President Trump, if you actually look back to some of his first posts he made on X or on Truth Social, he said, I am here to preserve the US dollar.
Any BRICS countries that trade with one another in currencies which are not the US dollar, they will be sanctioned.
If you buy Iranian oil, I'm going to sanction you.
Part and parcel of what this really is all about is about stopping BRICS.
And India was on the verge of becoming a full-fledged member of BRICS, which would have been a junior partner to China.
So what really happened here, Alex, is the United States under Trump gave some sort of fig leaf to Modi and the Indians and said, listen, do you want to be a junior partner to the Chinese?
Or do you want to be part of the Western orbit and have a great relationship with the United States?
We'll boost your economy.
We'll bring production, just like Apple now is going to India.
We'll sell some sophisticated military equipment to you so that you don't have to buy it from the Russians.
And this is all working.
And the 125% tariffs that Trump has imposed on China, you're already seeing the consequences of that.
The Chinese just cut their rates, I think today or yesterday.
Their economy is slowing.
Manufacturing is leaving at a rapid pace.
The FDI in the United States, meaning foreign direct investment, is up to about $5 trillion potentially already.
It's more in 100 days under Trump than it was under four years with Biden.
The tariff policy is working.
China's on the backpedal.
Russia and Ukraine are going to come to some sort of peace agreement.
And India is going to be a partner of the United States.
It couldn't have worked better, and this is all because of Trump's leadership.
alex jones
That's what I'm trying to get across the listeners.
And I know we have dialed in listeners to the general public, but this is epic success.
And then again, you read the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, or CNN, you would think it's a total disaster.
But people ask how Trump's reversing it so quick.
We still had all the cards.
The best military, the biggest market, the world-deserved currency, still the best science development base, and the best culture, and the most friends.
But it was all being allowed to go away.
Everybody says incompetence.
I'm sure Biden was a puppet.
But Larry Fink was bragging even in the first Trump administration.
Oh, Trump thinks he'll turn America back on.
No, it's China.
China's the future.
The CFR, all of that.
They were all heavily invested in China.
This was the decision they made.
They didn't care if China double-crossed even the globalist military arrangements and was going to even cut them out.
Even as Xi Jinping broke all his deals with them, they were still going to go with them.
But Trump and the American people got in.
Other populists are getting in.
And now, again, I saw CNN last night.
They're, whoa, don't worry.
The EU and China's new alliance will defeat Trump and America.
And the Republican punnet goes, you hear what you're actually saying?
You're rooting against your own country.
I mean, plus you're wrong.
We're winning.
So it was ours to lose.
Trump keeps saying that because it's so true.
We still had all the cards, but they were about to be taken away.
You talk about grabbing victory from the jaws of defeat, this is it.
And then I just wonder, with the average leftist being so economically illiterate...
When they think they're so educated and so smart, all they're educated in is their pronouns and how to have purple-pink hair, that they're going against their own interests not supporting us.
And that's why a lot of people like Bill Amar are saying, no, no, no, Trump's a better manager.
Let's work with him.
Let's do this.
We need to save the country.
No kidding.
Because as Elon Musk has said, America is the central pillar of the West.
And if the West falls, folks, the world is in a world of you-know-what.
Your take on that.
george papadopoulos
No, it absolutely is.
Look, the Democrats have become useful idiots of the CCP and other globalist initiatives that basically seek to destroy sovereignty and nationalism, populism, and loving your country.
And they seek to create open borders.
And these are all Chinese-led initiatives, globalist-led initiatives.
You've seen the absolute abject damage that has been done to the United States.
Using these goals, we've had an open border for four years.
Of course, President Trump has now sealed that border.
But we have no idea who's in this country at this point.
We have 20 to 30 million unchecked people in this country.
Some could be hardworking people, you know, Christ-fearing people, family-oriented people.
Others can be terrorists.
Others can be here to do absolute harm to the United States, including military-aged males from China.
That we're crossing the border during the Biden administration to the tune of 2,000% increase.
So that's really the situation that's been going on under the Biden administration.
And of course, the Democrats, they're in a state of implosion, Alex.
They're in a state of introspection right now.
They're going through an identity crisis.
They have around a 20 to 25% approval rating.
They're useful idiots and their policies.
Don't work.
This was reflected in, of course, the resounding victory by President Trump this past election.
They're going to keep losing because I think now, because of shows like yours, decentralized media, the narratives collapsing that the establishment media has created around President Trump and his team are all collapsing.
The people are doing their own diligence, and they're starting to realize that the Democrats are not there to serve the will of the American people, but certainly different interests and different agendas that don't serve the American people.
They saw that in their pocketbooks.
They've seen it in security issues that have been going on in America.
And that's why I think now they're gravitating more to President Trump America first and MAGA more than ever, including on the left.
alex jones
Undoubtedly.
And when you look at this and you look at the totalitarian rush by the EU, to suppress and block elections and arrest political opposition that are winning elections and cancel elections and you see Canada behaving like that and you see the left here they're not course correcting at all they're getting more intense more hateful,
more division as the world awakens to that and says no to it so they're like cultural suicide bombers looking forward into the future I mean there's so many ways this could go but What happens to leftist neoliberal globalism when it was betrayed 15 years ago by China, breaking with it, but they still stick with it, even though when that fell, that was really the end of their system.
Now there's a vacuum.
America's back stepping into it.
The whole world wants part of that, obviously.
And I don't see how the Democrats and globalists and leftists in general, because they have their whole globalist international neoliberal system.
Don't understand.
It's already game over.
And I don't see how they could ever come back to power.
All they could do is reform and try to be part of the new system.
But instead, it appears, at least Soros' son has even said this, they just intend to bring the West down with them.
You know, the only conscious leftist I see in their leadership just say they're basically going to wreck us because if they can't rule us, they're going to destroy us.
Well, that was already their goal to begin with because they're threatened by Western freedom.
So, I mean, that's a long statement.
But just in general, What are they going to do?
And you agree, even as Bill Maher said a month ago, for the Democrats, it's pretty much game over on their current course.
But they're just accelerating.
george papadopoulos
No, follow the money, Alex.
Who was financing from Black Lives Matter to the Defund the Police movement to so many of these other bizarre agendas that really reverberated throughout the United States that resulted in people's lives being lost, division like we've never seen before?
Police officers being attacked and billions of dollars worth of damage to numerous great American cities in this country.
All you have to look at is who's financing these things.
And it's simply people like from the George Soros' to the Chinese government.
You've seen these people who have been infiltrating these various protests, including the Hamas protests that are from countries in China, the Middle East.
All of these people are agent provocateurs.
Which are seeking to keep a dying horse alive.
And that dying horse is the Democrat Party and their failed initiatives.
And the only thing that the Democrats can do right now, Alex, and I think they're being semi-successful doing, is attempting to thwart the Trump administration's policies, not via Congress, because obviously they don't have Congress.
alex jones
And they even say that, as you know.
They even say, slow it down, block it, just block their agenda, which is saving the country and the world.
george papadopoulos
That's absolutely right.
And that's why they're using these people like Boesburg in D.C. to basically seek to control U.S. economic policy, U.S. foreign policy, U.S. immigration policy from his helm in Washington, D.C. While this judge, of course, has been dealing with some of the biggest scandals, not only overseeing the FISA scandal and various other issues.
And we have to ask ourselves, why does he keep being appointed to all the Trump cases?
Why is this person?
Such a powerful individual in Washington, D.C. And it's because the Democrats, of course, are bolstering him.
And the Republicans, unfortunately, are not supporting one another when they have the opportunity to either impeach people like this judge and support Ed Martin.
You have some senators coming out who voted to confirm Garland, but now are coming out and saying we're not going to support Ed Martin.
A house divided can't stand.
alex jones
And I'm glad you raised that.
You read my mind, George Papadopoulos.
Stay right there.
We've got to go to break for a few minutes.
That was my next issue, was Ed Martin and Republican senators that won't approve him, but would approve who the Democrats wanted.
They are so scared, and they even admit, oh, he thinks the government was involved with J6.
Yeah, that's been proven.
Another setup they tried to do to me.
I don't try to write myself into these stories.
It just keeps happening.
They tried to set me up as a Russian.
Set him up.
Tried to set me up.
So I want to talk about that and then walk it back into Crossfire Hurricane documents coming out and vindicating the hell out of you and President Trump.
We'll be right back.
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So, folks want to see Pam Bondi and Kash Patel be able to prosecute the deep state for crossfire hurricane that's open and shut, and just all the other incredibly corrupt evil things, the human trafficking, not losing the kids, disappearing them on purpose.
Well, you've got to have U.S. attorneys that will actually go after people, and Ed Martin is awesome, has a great track record, really smart, and they don't want to confirm him.
Now, it's going to get rammed through, but currently, it is this particular senator, Tom Tillis of North Carolina, says he opposes Ed Martin because, quote, he doesn't want anybody that came in the Capitol arrested.
Well, I was there.
I didn't go in.
They were waving an old lady saying, come on in.
Hours after the provocateurs broke in, they didn't know.
So you want to...
No, no.
That's not why he wants them stopped.
He also has said...
Well, also, he said that, you know, there were feds involved.
And we got video of the senator saying that.
You know, that's ridiculous.
You know, these people acted alone and there was nobody there.
Yeah, right.
We have the videos of them arresting the feds that broke in and then taking the handcuffs off and high-fiving them, the Capitol Police.
It goes way beyond Ray Epps.
And you have the FBI director years ago testifying that, oh, there were no feds there.
And now it's come out there were.
So a total setup.
They tried to set me up.
It just goes on and on and on.
So this is a big deal.
And I predict Ed Martin does get confirmed, just like everybody else they tried to block at the committee level.
But it's emblematic of what George Papadopoulos, former foreign...
Policy advisor to President Trump and first major deep state target, and then it was General Flynn.
They targeted him first, then Flynn.
That's in the memos.
And, of course, Papadopoulos said all this years ago, and now we have the documents, thanks to Kash Patel, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of pages of them, of Brennan, the CIA director, meeting with Obama when President Trump is the nominee, and then elect, saying, we showed the memos a few weeks ago, there they are.
Hey.
We don't want, you know, the Russians or the public or the media to know this is fake.
And, oh, Hillary's doing this.
Yeah, right.
They were doing it through Hillary.
So smoking gun stuff, we need to see indictments.
This all interconnects because we need Ed Martin, who's the one that says he's going after him for this, breaking down the current Ed Martin situation towards Papadopoulos and then how that ties into Crossfire Hurricane because obviously this is a huge deal.
george papadopoulos
Yeah, first of all, I think any Republican senator that's seeking the Ford and Martin's confirmation will ultimately be primaried and most likely lose his or her seat in the Senate.
So I think Tillis is already on the way out.
He's completely against the president's agenda, MAGA's agenda, and actually the interests of the American people, which is to have a one-tiered justice system in this country.
To follow the rule of law and not to apply standards differently for political opponents, whether they're on the left or the right.
And that's exactly why this situation with Ed Martin is so critical, because if you don't confirm him and you have some sort of hack or somebody in there who's not willing to go all the way to get to the bottom of exactly what happened during Crossfire Hurricane, various other investigations, January 6th situation.
The impeachment hoaxes and so many of these other issues, including the raid on President Trump's house, then the American people will never have these answers.
We'll likely go 60 to 70 years the way we did with JFK and get drips and draps of some sort of information that will never ultimately be the truth.
And we might see this type of nefarious activity by the deep state once again.
So when it comes to Crossfire Hurricane, you're absolutely right.
The president declassified the crossfire hurricane documents about three to four weeks ago.
He attempted to do it during his first term, but people like Pompeo and A.G. Barr prevented it right before the election, which of course would have helped him in the 2020 election.
And now these files have been declassified.
There's absolutely no reason whatsoever that they should continue to be underneath the rug of history.
And I think when Ed Martin does get confirmed, Alex, then we will see some cases prosecuted.
People like Comey, Strzok, Lisa Page, Brennan, others.
that were involved will likely face some sort of accountability.
We'll also get the truth about January 6th.
We'll figure out what all of these assassination times against the president were really all about.
The president and Michael will be stronger than ever, and that will be a great benefit for the American society.
alex jones
I totally agree.
Tulsi Gabbard and others have released, but going over them all, you're really the expert to speak to them.
I remember going over some of the new documents, and it's exactly what you said.
They knew you were totally innocent.
You didn't say or do anything in that bar when they claimed you did, but then they connected the whole fake operation to you.
From day one, that's got to be bizarre to just have them randomly pick you with no evidence.
They admit the documents that you weren't connected to Russians.
It's just preposterous that they could ever now not go to prison for that.
george papadopoulos
Yeah, Alex, I mean, basically the situation is very, I guess it's complicated.
I'll try and simplify it.
In 2016, you had an outsider like candidate Trump, a populist economic nationalist who had great transformational ideas for America.
He had a team that had complete and utter faith in him and those ideas that was willing to execute those ideas and do their best job to help articulate those policies on the campaign trail and, of course, during the administration.
Now, Hillary Clinton was going to be the appointed one for Obama's third term.
So what Obama did, along with various foreign governments, the CIA and FBI, this has all been robustly reported.
This isn't simply an opinion at this point.
To initiate a coup attempt against the president.
Unfortunately for them, they went up against extremely strong characters like myself, General Flynn, Roger Stone, yourself, who was targeted, others, the president's an extremely tough guy.
And we all fought back against what they were attempting to do to us.
And now that it collapsed, you have people like Charles McGonigal, who was Peter Strug's boss.
He's currently sitting in prison on a seven-year term.
You have people like Kevin Clinesmith, who was the FBI attorney at the center of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.
He pled guilty to a felony.
And you have an active investigation into James Comey by Cash Fatale.
So this is all going on in real time.
And the reason that this is happening, Alex, is because clearly I was innocent.
The president was innocent.
Others were innocent.
And most importantly, the American people did not allow their will to be replaced and usurped with something that they did not want.
And they want MAGA.
They want America first.
That's why they voted for President Trump three times, and why I think moving into the future, the Democrats are in deep trouble, and Margaret's here to stay.
alex jones
I've seen a lot of senior Democrat operatives, name it, they've all been on there saying, wait till we get back in.
We're really going to come after you now.
You better stop it.
We're not...
Persecuting them.
They persecuted us.
We didn't do lawfare on them.
They did lawfare on us.
We have the goods.
I mean, the crimes, the stuff they've been caught doing and taking away from ICE control over the kids coming in so they could disappear them into HHS, and it just goes on and on.
I mean, the level of premeditated evil, the Democrats knew their party was dying, knew people were turning against them in a political realignment not to ship around the world.
And they were trying to establish a totalitarian system.
They tried to use J6 to roll that out.
And we have a responsibility, but also for the country's future, and also individually, because I guarantee you, if they ever get back in power at any real level, I mean, they are coming after me.
And so it's personal.
They're coming after you.
They're coming after Trump.
They're coming after Flynn.
They're coming after Stone.
They're coming after everybody.
Wiseman and all of them saying, like, hey, you support any of the Trump administration, any of their activities lawyers, we're going to disbar you.
Well, that's racketeering right there.
But I believe in the American people, and we've so far, my bets paid off, that all this intimidation isn't going to make us shut up.
In fact, it's just going to piss more people off.
But at the same time, I've got to really hand it to the Democrats.
They are...
Is it arrogance or is it false confidence?
Because they still act like they think they're in charge, even though they're getting their ass handed to them on every front.
george papadopoulos
Well, they feel that they're still in charge because you have people like Senator Tillis and some other weak and feckless Republicans doing the bidding of the Democrats.
The Democrats right now are in a state of implosion.
They have historic disapproval rating.
They have an identity crisis.
They don't know whether they want to go the AOC route.
Or some other route of an older person.
And that's exactly why the Republicans have a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to put the stake in the coffin of the Democrat Party for at least the next two to three elections.
if they're united, Alex, if they go all the way, if they confirm Ed Martin, if they prosecute those that were responsible for the crimes during January 6th or a crossfire hurricane and various other hoaxes that were perpetuated against the American people and President Trump.
This is what the American people have been waiting for.
When President Trump ran this past election, Alex, yes, of course, we were talking about the border.
We were talking in inflation.
We were talking foreign policy preventing World War III.
But the witch hunts and the hoaxes and the various lawfare that was waged against the president and various citizens in the United States was, I would say, ranked at least on the top three issues that the Republican Party voted for President Trump on.
His popularity was higher than ever.
We're not living in normal times, Alex.
And because we're not living in normal times, we need to act like that.
And the only way to do it is to stop being shy, stop playing the game of the Democrats, unite and go all the way and prevent the Democrats from ever coming to power.
And the only way to do that is by exposing them.
alex jones
I totally concur with that.
I've asked Roger Stone this, I've asked a lot of other really smart political domestic experts, and they don't really have any good, solid theories on how this goes.
But studying two-party U.S. history and other similar events around the world, when a party has been so corrupted and so discredited, like the Nazi party after World War II, it gets outlawed, basically.
We don't need to outlaw it.
That could give it some chance of coming back by giving it a Streisand effect.
But how do we, obviously in a two-party system, what are the different permutations in your mind about how we permanently get rid of them as the election corruption comes out, as the election integrity actions and orders further reduce their ability to steal?
And then we discover so many of these blue cities and blue states really weren't.
People just give it up and stop voting, as we know they've done.
That then the Republicans become the dominant party.
The Democratic Party effectively dies.
Then what comes out of that so we can have a political dialectic still to have the people's will exercise?
I mean, I know we're looking out further in the future here, but I think Trump and his people need to war game this.
And think about...
Some things we can do to accelerate the discrediting and destruction of the Democrats.
Because in a larger point to this, why are so many neocon Republicans, though they're now a minority and losing power every day and being voted out like Liz Cheney at record losses?
Why are they still defending the deep state and the Democrats?
And I think in most cases it's because they're on the payroll and they've been compromised and are being blackmailed.
So I think I kind of answered my own question there.
It's just that we have to talk about dealing with these people.
The people want them gone.
The people want them out of power.
And so the best way to do that without any type of totalitarianism because, I mean, they deserve to be outlawed after what they've done.
But at the same time, that's not really the American way.
I mean, that's a long question because it's such a complex question.
george papadopoulos
No, look, certainly we don't need to have a totalitarian system.
We don't have to wage the lawfare against our political opponents the way that the Democrats did because they're in such a weak state of affairs on their own.
You even have people like Governor Newsom going on his show recently saying, have we gone too woke?
You have other people like the former failed mayor of Chicago, Rahm Emanuel, who says the same exact thing.
So I think the Democrats themselves, if you want to call it the adults in the Democrat Party, have recognized that they themselves have become too woke, too out of the mainstream, and that they are trying their best to go somewhere towards the middle.
Will they be successful or not?
That's yet to be seen.
I don't think they will.
Because I think so much has been invested in wokeism, identity politics.
The war against history, the war against the soul of the United States, including its history, its traditions, its values, that they simply can't put that genie back in the bottle.
And that's exactly why we have this extreme infighting within the Democrat Party, much more so than even the Republican Party.
But what I think the best strategy is is just simple.
Transparency will lead to accountability.
The Republicans, President Trump have nothing to hide.
They've actually been the targets of so many of these scams by the Democrats that they simply want the American people to now have all the facts in real time and in prime time.
So how do you do it?
Get Congress to act, hold hearings in prime time, have witnesses subpoenaed, allow them to testify in front of the American people so that the American people have a front view row of exactly what the Democrats are doing.
Then have decentralized media like X, shows like yours relay that information.
This is where the majority of Americans are getting their news from.
No one's sitting on their couch between 7 to 9 o 'clock, unless you're of a different generation waiting to get your news.
Everything is very instant right now.
So with the Republicans and the conservatives controlling...
Decentralized media and some of the most popular podcasts, and of course shows on Fox and others, that in tandem is an incredible opportunity for us to get this out to the American people.
And once the American people digest it, get the real facts and process it, they'll never vote for the Democrats again.
So you don't need to do anything else except just tell the American people what the Democrats really stand for behind all the fake stories that the Democrats want them to believe.
alex jones
That's perfectly said.
It's totally true.
And an example of cults in history, as the Democratic Party is, and their wokeism is an admitted psychological warfare program in their own documents.
Whenever a cult gets under attack, it gets more hardcore and turns in on itself and starts eating its own, but also striking out a lot more and becoming terroristic, which you're seeing, which they are accelerating their own destruction as well.
And so it goes from kind of the establishment.
Congress critters that are in their own bubble, to the Antifa that's in its own bubble, to the academia that's getting its leftist funding, NGO funding cut off.
And so you have Trump with massive transparency, press conferences, openness about everything, revealing stuff to the world before he reveals it to his cabinet in many cases, keeping the globalist off balance, cutting off their funds, and right there, it's over.
But in closing, the question, the final part is...
How do you guess, or speculate, as you're a smart guy, I really want to know, how they're finishing themselves off, what happens to them, and then what replaces them?
george papadopoulos
Yeah, I think that the Democrats right now, I don't think they're going anywhere.
I think the United States has really invested in a majority two-party system the way that we do here.
I don't think we're going to go towards some sort of European model.
alex jones
Sure, I'm not talking about a parliamentary system.
I'm saying think big.
I think their brand is so wrecked and so toxic that...
So I guess they're just a totally diminished party and we have the Republicans in for 50 years?
george papadopoulos
I think as of right now, they are a completely diminished party.
They show the American people what they believe in, what their values are, and what their plans for the American people are.
It's very simple.
If you want an open border...
If you want the government to take over your parental rights, if you want high taxes, and you want the government to spend your tax dollars in an unlimited fashion to conduct foreign wars, that's what the Democrat Party has become, including the party of Big Pharma and various other lobby groups that the American people simply don't relate to.
This and the military-industrial complex, of course.
This was not the Democrat Party under Clinton.
It wasn't even the Democrat Party of 15 years ago.
It has now metastasized into something completely unrecognizable.
And on the same point, the Republican Party is completely unrecognizable today than it was under the George W. Bush administration and, of course, George H.W. Bush administration.
alex jones
It's truly reformed itself from country club bluebloods to true populist party.
And all the numbers show it.
It really is.
Beyond amazing and just beautiful, and the left calls it radicalization, but it's now, Fox News sounds like Joe Rogan meets Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, and I see the political leaders, and they're getting informed super fast.
I talk to congresspeople all the time on air, off air.
They're really having a growth curve of awakening, and the naivete is dropping away, so the Republicans are getting more populous, more smart, more informed, more real, while the Democrats are getting more And it's just a beautiful time to be alive if they can't, you know, somehow drag us into their political grave with them.
George, thank you so much.
Where do people find out more about your work?
george papadopoulos
Alex, it was a real pleasure.
Thanks again for having me.
You can follow me on X, The New Public Square, at GeorgePapa19.
I have a great book out if you want to really understand the genesis of the entire spying against President Trump.
Deep State Target, how I got caught in the crosshairs of the plot to bring down President Trump.
And I'm happy always to answer questions by anybody who sends them.
So thanks so much.
alex jones
One last question, I think, just real fast, 60 seconds.
Have you heard any scuttlebugs?
Have a lot of connections about who they're...
I hear they're planning to indict Leticia James, Comey, Brennan.
I hear they're right at the top of the list of big targets.
george papadopoulos
Those are exhibit A, B, and C in corruption and illegal activities.
The only thing that was ever missing from that recipe, Alex, those people that you just detailed, was a prosecutor willing to go all the way to go where the facts lead and to make a prosecutable case in front of either a D.C. jury or any type of jury and present it to the American public so that those people go behind bars.
For the crimes, not only against the American people, but President Trump and this entire country.
So I think those people are definitely in the crosshairs.
And they're not in the crosshairs for hoaxes or wrong reasons the way that we were, but for actual legal and criminal activity.
And that's a great thing for America.
alex jones
Trying to discredit and remove and impeach the president with BS and throw a bunch of innocent people in prison, like you and I, and SWAT team Roger Stone, and it's blown up their face.
They are the tyrants.
George, thank you.
george papadopoulos
Thank you, sir.
alex jones
Boy, how the tables have turned.
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All right, last week, former high-level Bush administration, deputy head of HUD, Catherine Austin Fitzgerald Carlson, talked about evidence pointing to $21 trillion being put into underground cities and bases.
I want to play that clip and come back with an expert on it and do the deep dive straight ahead, ladies and gentlemen.
But here's her exchange that's gone mega viral on the underground cities.
catherine austin-fitts
But I think that there, whether it's a pole shift, magnetic pole shift is one of the...
You know, theories of what causes these events.
But there is a history of near-extinction events.
And one of the things that I've looked at, because I'm trying to figure out, you know, between fiscal 1998 and fiscal 2015, there were 21 trillion of undocumented adjustments in the U.S. government.
If you go to our website, missingmoney.salyer.com, we have years and years of documentation, including the government financials that show this.
And so the question is, where's all this money going?
And one of the things I've looked at in the process of looking at where all this money is going is the underground base and city infrastructure and transportation system that's been built.
tucker carlson
I'm sorry?
catherine austin-fitts
Yes.
So we have built an extraordinary number of underground bases.
And supposedly transportation systems.
Some of these are documented as part of the national security infrastructure.
I think there are many more.
tucker carlson
In the United States?
catherine austin-fitts
In the United States and all over the world.
But from 2021 to 2023, I took one of the smartest subscribers in the Solir Report network.
And he and I spent two years collecting all the data and all the allegations on underground bases.
And then we systematically went through and tried to estimate our guess, this is totally a guess, of how many underground bases both underground in the United States but also underground under the ocean around the United States.
And our estimate was 170.
With a transportation network connecting them.
tucker carlson
And what would be the purpose?
catherine austin-fitts
If you thought you were going to get a near extinction event, to me there are two purposes.
You have so many activities going on that you need to keep secret.
That you're basically building the capacity to, for example, if you're doing a secret space program, you need to platform it from things that can't be seen.
But I think if you're worried about a near extinction event.
You know, that's...
tucker carlson
So I know nothing about this other than my only window into it, I knew a contractor who worked on one in Washington, in the city of Washington, D.C. And I remember him telling me about a power box, like a transformer box on Constitution Avenue that he told me, because he worked on it personally, was actually the exit, the egress from White House.
That was kind of by vehicle.
I thought that was...
I was like, really?
He goes, oh, yeah, no, I installed it.
I know.
And I thought, well, that's kind of crazy that in the middle of this big city where I live, I lived and I was on Constitution Avenue every day, that you could build something like that without me knowing it under the VP's house at the Naval Observatory.
Same thing.
I think most people know that.
Next to my brother's house on Macomb Street in D.C. Also.
So, like, but that's...
I always thought that was like...
Preparation for nuclear war, like, I didn't really think about it that much.
catherine austin-fitts
Some of it is, yeah.
It's preparation for catastrophe.
tucker carlson
So, but you think that there are facilities like that in other places outside D.C.?
catherine austin-fitts
Oh, yeah.
So, if you're interested, we have a great interview.
I did an interview of Richard Dolan on Underground Bases on the Solari Report, and it's sort of an introduction to the topic, and it's based on a lot of the research of a guy named Richard Sauter, who...
It's very hard to interview, so Richard kind of went through all the material.
And, you know, clearly it's, I don't know if you ever saw, Washington Post did a project, it was in 2010 or 12, called Top Secret America, and one of the reporters, it was a team of two reporters, one of them put together a database.
Of all the different top secret installations that had been built in the country, including since the Patriot Act.
And what you saw was just this explosion of money in building so many both underground and above ground facilities.
alex jones
All right, we'll be back and lay out the best information we know on this.
This is very important.
All right, I've seen a lot of speculation and a lot of rumors flooding around since Catherine Austin Fitz, who did a great job, by the way, went on Tucker Carlson last week.
They said, we've tracked $21 trillion completely missing going into black budgets in just the last few decades, and a lot of it tracks back to underground-based cities.
Now, folks know about the hotels outside D.C. and things that have entrances to underground railways, the Briar Green.
People know about Mount Weather.
People know about...
Cheyenne Mountain, people know about Colorado Springs.
Those are big underground, under-mountain military command bases.
But we know that they have secretive connections, pieces that have come out, to underground transportation systems around the country.
And I've talked to sources, high-level, low-level, you name it, that have been compartmentalized, that did work on huge complexes under the Denver International Airport that connects out.
To the main nuke command base just down the road, Colorado Springs.
And I know people that worked on it, and it was the SAC command base, the alternate base.
Barsham International Airport was previously the B-52 wing with the nuclear weapons.
And they stored them in a big bunker under it and railways out to Fort Hood and under some of the smaller mountains out there.
And so pieces of this have all come out.
But when you talk about the magnitude of the money, then I was the first to report about five years ago, six years ago, I was out in Kauai, and I was staying at a resort about five miles from Mark Zuckerberg, who just bought a bunch of property, and he pissed the locals off because he bought property around one of their sacred sites that was owned by them, and he said, you can fly a helicopter over to it.
I'm not going to give you a right-of-way to it.
And then so I started talking to engineers who were working on it and all of them hated him.
And the stories are out there on record.
There I am in Hawaii talking about it.
The fatter Alex Jones.
And then again last year I was out there and locals gave me footage they got flying over it in a helicopter.
Huge earth moving equipment.
Huge bubble dome like constructions over it.
And they said he's got a big tunnel and I'm on record all the way out to the ocean like a supervillain.
And there's these cliffs, and he's got a submarine out there, so no one knows when he's coming and going, to go out to one of his giant mega yachts that he keeps miles off.
And I'm being told this at, let's just say, senior people's houses in Hawaii.
They wanted to meet with me, because they knew I'd already talked about it.
So we broke that.
And it was a minor blip, something we put out.
We'll try to, because I've talked about it a lot, because I just thought of this.
The crew just thought of this.
We'll try to find that while Dark Journalist is on with us for the next hour.
If not, we'll find it and put it in post.
But I still got it on my phone, too.
I was giving the video of flying over it, showing it, told what was in there.
He now went on Theo Vaughn's podcast last week and said, oh, yeah, I got a big bunker and I got an underground tunnel.
So, again, the point is, why is he doing that?
And it's gigantic.
I mean, they've been building it five, six years, constant construction.
They put these big, giant...
Like space domes up over it so you can't see what's going on inside of there.
So what's making him do that?
So imagine if he's doing that on that scale, what others are doing.
And I've talked to some of the top people that are in underground destruction.
They say it's just been massive for 20 years.
And it's not just for nuclear war.
So why is this going on?
And we know out at Kauai alone...
There in the north, there's huge underground military bases that are totally secret.
It's the main anti-missile defense system in the Pacific Ocean.
It also has nuclear weapons there aimed at China.
It's a main target.
The average local doesn't even know that because the way the military comes into Kauai and out.
So there's just one base there on the...
Western side, right at the foothills of the mountain, but that's the entrance into it.
Then you've got Wahoo's got giant underground bases.
That's all admitted.
You see some of that in the movie Snowden that documents the real world what he said was under there.
That's just areas in Hawaii, giant underground bases in Kona, the big island.
And then it just goes on and on and on with what we know.
So, yes, I think Fitz is accurate that trillions of this money has gone on underground bases because there you can have the secret technology.
You can do the more dangerous experiments.
It ties into CERN and other large superconducting supercolliders and more.
We're talking to Daniel List, darkjournalist.com, leading expert on the entire breakaway civilization shadow government.
And then we're going to tie it into everything else coming out.
The UK admitting they're doing geoengineering suddenly.
Kennedy coming out saying, we know the agency's doing it.
DARPA.
As we learn more and more, and as the public learns more about shadow government, and as even Congress does, that's been growing in this national security labyrinth since 1947, this is really the ultimate awakening, and the ultimate class system is the scientific, mad scientist, death cult elite, taking our money, our resources, our developments, our innovations, and keeping what they want for them, life extension, you name it.
And then giving us technology that's for control.
Now, that's a basic gestalt of that, but let's go to this clip of a Zuckerberg and we'll go to Daniel West.
unidentified
I don't even know what I would have.
I would have an underground tunnel, even though it came right back up next to where it started.
mark zuckerberg
I do have an underground tunnel.
unidentified
Do you really?
mark zuckerberg
Yeah.
Yeah.
unidentified
In USA?
mark zuckerberg
Well, there's this ranch in Kauai.
unidentified
Yeah.
mark zuckerberg
Where there's this whole thing where people are like, there's this whole meme about how people are saying I built this like bunker underground.
It's like more of underground storage situation.
Bring it up.
But yeah, no, it's a...
alex jones
Oh, wow.
Zucky got that bonky.
What's under the ground is more water, right?
mark zuckerberg
It's basically what you just said.
It's sort of a tunnel that just goes to another building.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
It's a good place to hide a little bit of dope, though.
unidentified
That's what I would say, dude.
alex jones
How big is that tunnel?
unidentified
Is your tunnel pretty big or what's it like?
mark zuckerberg
It's not that big of a tunnel.
I made a...
I put a reel on Instagram one day of Priscilla kind of making fun of me playing video games with some friends down there.
But it's...
Yeah.
unidentified
No, it's all good.
tucker carlson
Yes, definitely.
unidentified
But this is a crazy area.
tucker carlson
I haven't spent a lot of time...
mark zuckerberg
You know how the internet is.
The internet will always make things seem like they're crazier than they are.
But, you know, what's an underground...
I mean, in Hawaii, it's like having a little storm shelter underground tunnel is pretty sweet.
unidentified
That's the thing right there?
mark zuckerberg
No, I don't think so.
That's insane.
alex jones
Is that Roblox?
chase geiser
Who built it for you?
unidentified
It looks closer to Roblox than what the thing is.
alex jones
So, he knows this is coming out.
This is a microcosm of what they're doing in general.
Limited hangouts, limited disclosures.
Dark Journalists, thank you so much for being here with us.
Take it away from whatever angle you want to start, because there's so much.
@darkjournalist
Absolutely, Alex.
It's great to be here with you.
And those two clips actually cut right to the point, which is so much of the breakaway technology.
Remember, the breakaway guys have a tremendous problem, which is they need to come back to the public now.
They've been developing this in the background, in secret, with our money for 80 years.
And what do you do with that?
And the history now, as we look into it, actually goes much further back, in fact.
But just in terms of the national security state, there you are.
But the underground base part is fascinating because it's part of that hidden economy, the black budget economy that's been driving so many of the forces and making so many people in that deep state wealthy, but also creating a parallel structure.
And this is one of the things that was warned of by people all the way from President Kennedy to President Reagan and others, that there would be a secondary government that would usurp the civil government on top, the overt government being challenged by this covert government.
Well, there's a certain point where there's a lack of oversight and they take those secrecy rules that they developed during the Cold War and maximize them for this continuity of government program.
That's where you got the massive building of underground tunnel networks.
And it was in tandem with Eisenhower building up the highway networks throughout America.
And this is very important because When we look at how you would accomplish this kind of a thing, you need the infrastructure.
You need the money.
And so where does it come off?
If it's not on the actual budget, it has to be coming out of the slush fund black budget.
And that's where the heart of so much of this goes because, of course, so much of the money that's been missing that you referred to there at the top of the program comes directly out of the DOD, comes directly out of NASA, comes directly out of places and institutions like HUD inside the government.
So without that real vetting of the government, you have this money just flying away, which is why the Doge thing is so interesting on a number of levels.
And you have to be careful because of the amount of piggyback operations that happen.
So you could have a very, you know, a good effort on behalf of Doge on one side, and then something could get in there and piggyback and cull that data.
So you have to be very careful with a process like that.
You need multiple oversights.
But the thing that doesn't have any oversight is this underground structure.
And it is vast.
I've actually talked to people who have been a part of it.
And of course, they can tell me that they can't even tell their wives and husbands about the things that they see down there.
It's so super secret.
But the only thing that they were able to relate to me is the vastness of it, the housing developments, the entire different world, the parallel universe that these people are living in.
And of course, we had...
Archetypes for this, Dr. Strangelove and everything else.
But those people, when they get into that continuity of government mindset, they are thinking, we are the Doomsday Network.
We're the ones who are going to survive.
This is our training.
So when you have a guy up there like General Guillaume right now, and he's been very suspiciously in the middle of all these major events around drones and everything else.
He was actually running the Homeland Synchronizer drone exercise during all the weird drone sightings in November and December.
Well, for me, they're taking a lot of that information and putting it together so that they can create some kind of emergency powers cover for this and test that entire structure out.
Because after all, you don't build the stuff for no reason.
Obviously, there's a good purpose for it.
Originally, the purpose was laid out very clearly by Truman and Eisenhower.
Well, we're doing it to survive a nuclear war.
Well, that's a good reason, actually.
But the problem is, over the years, this got further and further outside of the control.
Of Congress, the Senate Intelligent Committees, and others.
And they said, don't worry about it.
We've got it covered.
And by the way, your bunker is secured down there in case anything happens.
You're all set.
Make sure you're not on the outs with all of this, as it were, and keep that money pouring in.
It's so super secret, in fact, that when it came up at various times in the 80s and 90s in congressional session, they would shut down the session to make sure nothing of this got out.
Now, they've started to be almost blasé, as you mentioned at the top of the program, about letting some of this out, just like they have these false UFO disclosure hearings in Congress and once lined up for May 12th.
This is part of their program, which is to hijack the very things that they've been lying about and keeping from the American public.
alex jones
And we're seeing that with the geoengineering.
Now that they know that Trump's getting ready to start bringing it out, as ROK has said, even naming names of DARPA being the overall master planner through the Department of Energy and the Pentagon, they're not going, oh yeah, sure, we're doing this to keep you safe.
So it's the exact same thing happening again and again.
@darkjournalist
It is, and that's kind of also a shot across the bow there with the geoengineering.
Because as you know, there's been two parallel realities on that.
You've covered it so intensely.
And some of your original research around FEMA is very interesting because that's paying off now with the coverage of FEMA and the fact that they're trying to take some of that budget out.
This is very crucial because President Trump understands that FEMA is a major part.
alex jones
Exactly.
It's set up in the 70s as the COG parallel government.
That goes to Colorado Springs and the alternate Congress building they have built underground there.
And remember the Democrats said in a war game, if Trump was going to win four years ago, Podesta said, we'll just go out to Colorado and have our own inauguration and have the blue states secede.
They were talking about activating that and literally with the bureaucrats saying F you to the American people.
And again, they've got lots of crises they can create.
It could be for a nuclear war.
It's got lots of uses.
It could be for a comet strike.
It could be for a pole ship.
It doesn't matter, though, because they get to build their own secret empire to test technologies, do whatever they want, and play God.
@darkjournalist
Exactly.
And it's very interesting when you pointed out the Zuckerberg thing, because he's like, oh, that's just my COG tunnel.
Don't worry about that.
The internet goes crazy on that.
But COG tunnels are just normal stuff for us billionaires.
So this is the absurdity of the whole thing.
What's interesting, though, is how do they control this?
There is an uncontrolled momentum to some of these things.
And this is the nature of the problem.
You've been reporting on it for so long.
We've done so many shows about the black budget, the continuity of government program, all the shows that we've done on the missing trillions and others.
That is a foundation in people's minds.
And now, I can almost call it the year 2025 is when dark journalism breaks because now this is getting around.
On so many different levels.
The issue is to make sure that the intelligence groups don't hijack the narratives for their own purposes.
And this is where we've come to at this point, where they're looking at it and they're saying, well, people like Alex Jones, people like Tucker and all the rest of it are letting this stuff out.
We have to get in there and we have to manipulate people like Carlson or manipulate people on these different programs and start to say, well, I'm the UFO whistleblower.
I'm the guy who came in.
I'm the guy who's going to switch this over.
And instead of actually going through the talk show hosts and things like that, now they're going to Congress.
And they just asked there for a billion dollars for this UFO Defense Office for openers.
And what's going on is they're taking some of the people who work in the counterintelligence program who are DOD billionaires, who have been a part of this continuity of government.
And it's interesting when you look at the continuity of government and COG, because all of those people, and I bring this to light, it's very much based on the work of Professor Peter Dale Scott, who over 50 years tracked these people.
But it's very interesting because what he found was that at every deep event in America, some of these COG emergency powers players would show up.
They just happened to be right in the heart of it.
Whether it was the financial coup, COVID, recently.
With the assassination attempt on President Trump in the summer, that was the Secret Service director.
She herself had been part of COG.
So the personnel is involved there always, of course, during the JFK assassination, all the way back to that.
And Watergate with John Dean, who was a major player inside of continuity of government networks.
And then ends up taking Nixon down.
And along with all the Reagan people, and you build that.
alex jones
So when they need to, they basically come out of the COG deal and exercise their power, and that gives them even more power.
Most people leaving the government aren't even aware there's a whole parallel system.
But notice, Elon doesn't do anything unless it's scalable and unless it's going to be used in society.
So people look at this boring company, and they say, oh, well, you know, what's that for?
Well, I mean, obviously, he's not the first.
I mean, we know 40 years ago they had giant nuclear-powered underground borers to build all this stuff, and we know those were purchased, and we know they're down there.
So it looks to me like Elon's trying to, again, mainstream and start kind of the emergence of this, and we know his borering company has government contracts, so that should be an interesting place to look.
@darkjournalist
Absolutely, and it's very interesting with Elon, and the position that he operates in the middle of all this is quite fascinating.
A lot of people have suggested, well, he's there to make the smart cities fashionable.
And there's a certain amount of agreement with that.
And yet, he's going right to where the heart of the matter is when it comes to the underground aspect as well.
Because if you do have a parallel government operating from underground, how do you set up something to oppose their strength at that point?
And that's a battle that goes all the way back to Eisenhower when he wasn't getting regular briefings from Area 51, which is the most famous underground center.
But I'll tell you, it can't be on any level now that we all know about it.
So where would all of that secret infrastructure go?
One of the main candidates that I've found for this is a town in Pennsylvania called Moon.
And I've done a lot of shows and investigations around this.
And it's quite fascinating because they were set up all the way from World War II as a layer of a secondary government being built there.
And you'll find that a lot of very interesting things happen in relation to Moon Township.
It's right where the Pittsburgh International Airport is and everything else.
A much better candidate for underground infrastructure than what we have in Area 51 where everybody knows about it.
The Russians can run their satellites over it and everything else.
Well, Moon is a very obscure place, but it's definitely related hardcore to the UFO file.
And this is important because those secrets, the way that that operates, the underground bunkers, the continuity of government planning, the secrecy around that can be flipped into areas like the UFO file.
So the UFO file becomes the hottest and the highest national security secret that we have.
How does that relate, then, you say, to this whole thing?
Well, it's very unusual.
If you look at Moon, Moon, in fact, President Ford, as soon as President Nixon resigned, his first speech was in Moon University, was right in Moon Township.
And then all of these things happen, and every presidential candidate has to go to Moon Township.
So there's some kind of centralized piece in there in terms of the technology.
And if you look deep into the infrastructure that's there, Moon is an excellent candidate for the type of secret underground works that we're talking about.
And also, it is surrounded.
By that terrain of unusual events, including the Kecksburg UFO incident, which took place close by.
And oddly enough, the attempted assassin of President Trump, the one who disappeared so quickly, and was it even him, with Thomas Matthew Crooks, he was going, he was planning to attend.
At the university there in Moon Township.
So there's a number of unusual things.
And of course, the people in Moon Township are great.
I've met some of them.
It's just this very interesting kind of glow around the place in terms of underground operations.
Another very interesting place, I'd say, in relation to this, of course, you mentioned Colorado.
They've been planning this as the secondary backup DC, as it were.
And when you mentioned Podesta there, I can't help but...
alex jones
And let me just add, I mean, it's on record, folks, that the backup government is in Colorado Springs and Denver.
And then when we talk about it, they go, oh, the crazy people.
They have jokes all over the airport.
Oh, yeah, right.
Meanwhile, it's all on record.
It's all there.
It's just secret.
@darkjournalist
Yeah, and they did some things with the international airport aspect.
They put the imagery there in the beginning, and they must have known that a number of people were going to pick up on it.
So they were using it as a deflection, and yet that artwork is very much the steganography that if you look at it, you can see a suggestion of a much larger plan.
Now, if you look at CERN, it's quite interesting because CERN put out...
A series of visuals very much like the Denver airport and something called the CERN tarot deck.
And CERN operates completely underground.
I've talked to scientists and everything else.
None of CERN has to be underground.
So this suggests something very, very unusual going on with CERN.
They are now just the one that they have is a 17-mile radius that goes down hundreds and hundreds of feet of tunnels.
But what's interesting is the one that they're planning.
And I did put a shot of this up on my X feed.
I'll try to see which one of this that is for you.
But it's quite interesting because the one that they're planning is so much bigger than the one that's there.
And we already know what the unusual...
alex jones
I'll have the crew do an overhead shot.
I'll show him what he's talking about.
Keep going.
@darkjournalist
Yeah, that's one of those interesting things for me because when you look at what's going on with CERN, we're looking at something which is an unexplained project.
And, you know, it's typical explanation we understand very, very well.
So it's got this, you know, we're going to find the Higgs boson and all the rest of it.
But CERN is very compelling because it brings us over into a parallel portal technology structure, which isn't on the record, isn't something that people talk about.
Even when we talk about warp drives, even when we talk about...
alex jones
Sure, always what we're told something is for is never its main function, but just...
Look right here.
Here's the gravity you want to get.
So they've already got the biggest superconductor ladder, they say, there.
But now the one they want to build is just gigantic.
@darkjournalist
It is.
And what's interesting is, again, scientists have objected to the pole, what they call the pole, on the ionosphere when CERN is turned on.
And just look at the size of that secondary one and the construction that's going on deep, deep underground.
Budgeted billions of dollars every year.
And when you look at the background of CERN, it literally and legitimately raises a number of questions about where that money is going and what they're doing with it.
They're also the number one user of the internet, for example.
alex jones
Well, notice how they're interconnected, too.
You do a lot of experiments there, but there's a lot they said they wouldn't do, like setting two up against each other, running them together.
Look how they connect one with the other.
That's the slam particles from two directions or even more at each other.
Boy, I think...
We'll be right back.
You took methylene blue about 30 minutes ago.
Are you feeling it?
roseanne barr
I think I am.
alex jones
Well, you told me during the break something.
Repeat what you said is happening.
roseanne barr
I feel like that stuff in my fingers.
I feel tingling fingers.
alex jones
You're feeling the Palpatine love?
unidentified
I think I feel the Palpatine love, yeah.
alex jones
Well, go ahead and there's the camera.
Blast him with full power right there.
unidentified
Ah!
Yeah!
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha!
alex jones
Powered by methylene blue.
Ultra-methylene blue.
Seriously, during the break, I said, are you feeling it?
I said, I feel the tingle.
roseanne barr
I do.
alex jones
What are you feeling now?
roseanne barr
Well, it's kind of going up my arms.
I feel it in my head and neck, too.
When I'm talking, it seems like it's not really me talking.
I can hear my talking and going, wow.
alex jones
I agree.
It's almost like an out-of-body experience.
I didn't tell you that.
It's like you're behind yourself.
roseanne barr
That is what it feels like.
But my brain's going really fast.
You know, because my brain, sometimes it goes so fast that I can't get it out on people.
alex jones
Yeah, all it does is increase electrochemical activity in the mitochondria, but that's a big deal.
roseanne barr
No, I really like it.
I'm going to have to get on this stuff.
alex jones
Here, show her Kennedy taking it.
Kennedy literally gobbles it.
unidentified
Unlimited power!
Power!
Unlimited power!
roseanne barr
I'm not going to be like that.
alex jones
Well, I'm like that normally, so...
unidentified
Yeah, you are like that normally.
alex jones
Unlimited power!
unidentified
Power!
Volunteer power!
Ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha!
Woo!
*Dramatic music* *Dramatic music*
alex jones
We're showing you some of the footage that CERN puts out, and there's also in movies.
But when they opened it, they did all these weird pagan satanic rituals, and it's like skull and bones type stuff out there at night.
A lot of theoretical physicists and quantum mechanics experts have said that things are imminently dangerous, and strange lids, black holes, yes, they can create those.
Yes, those have been done in underground bases that they admit exist.
China has created artificial suns on the surface.
They say that's even more dangerous and launched them publicly.
But if you tell people that at a cocktail party, they go, hey, that's Star Trek.
No, we're in the future.
It's just not evenly distributed.
And obviously, real power by elites would be to keep this from people.
So we reverse engineered 30 years ago the geoengineering, the big widespread stuff.
They always divert to like little local Boutique groups, you're making more snow for a ski resort or making it rain for the farmers.
And then you've got 30-something states passing laws or on the verge of passing laws to ban geoengineering.
Florida just did it.
So there is a curiosity acceleration and a discovery of this and a decompartmentalization happening at every level.
And again, there are definitely different competing factions and technological groups.
We have to look at what other governments have.
China hides a lot.
Russia, on record, has a larger budget for underground cities and bases than we do.
I don't think that's actually true.
But those are admissions.
So much of this is admitted, but it's not admitted in the grand scheme.
There's a piece here, a piece there, a piece here, a piece there.
But you integrate it all together.
This is huge.
And as our guest...
Dark Journalist Daniel List was saying, with the underground bases, just an example out of Area 51 and other areas, that's where they have the secret craft, the space planes, take off at night so you can't see them, and then they go into underground bunkers during the day.
So it's obvious one-on-one concealment, really, at the most base level.
Daniel, please continue.
You sent us a lot of other exhibits, too.
Nikola Tesla here.
We've got crop circles.
We've got the supercollider.
We've got Exhibit 4. It looks amazing.
I mean, just take us wherever you want to go.
@darkjournalist
Yeah, these are very interesting.
That is part of the CERN tarot deck.
First of all, I think it's unusual that CERN did a tarot deck.
We did a number of shows on it.
And their symbolism is very interesting because the things that they draw in are the technology that never got revealed to the public, the things that came through the Macy conferences and others.
All of the stuff that went black, that's part of the whole black budget and actual black ops work.
And this is what they didn't want to reveal to the public.
They didn't want their enemies to snatch it up.
They had a number of reasons.
But after a while, it just became, no, we don't want to share this with the public, but we do want to use the public's money developing it.
And this is where the psychological problems and the kind of schizophrenic nature of the culture as it is right now.
Developed on this level.
So here we are with it.
And the problem really for them is when they develop this doomsday network and they selected a carefully vetted cadre to bring this out, they're not sharing the main stuff.
Even those who think that they're really in the know on the COG thing.
COG is so ultra secret and concerns such a deep knowledge that they have the top scientists, they're budgeted billions of dollars every year, and they have amazing facilities.
Throughout not just all of North America, but of course in other places like Pine Gap.
So when you crisscross that level of secrecy and then you try to have a government with oversight on it, there's a huge, huge problem.
And we've seen it in the public clashes over everything.
They're doing the hearings in Congress over the UFO file.
Well, let me tell you, those hearings won't go anywhere because they...
Hit that brick wall of this national security state, which operates deep, deep in that system.
And when that system starts to talk and say, we're going to bring this out.
Hey, you can find out about underground bases.
Hey, you can find out about the UFO file.
That means they've found a way to bring it to the public that preserves their place and allows them to spin a false narrative.
And that false narrative is very dangerous because the one that they're playing with now is actually a human origin story.
And that goes to the heart of religion.
It goes hard to the spiritual matters.
And what they're trying to do really is give you a totally different origin story.
They have not figured out, in my opinion, with the detail that they've rolled out, exactly what the public will accept.
So on one hand, they're dealing with this anomalous thing that they're dealing with on the UFO side.
And of course, the UFO file, they've been able to run through almost a century of information of analyzing that.
The public has very little info.
Very little stories, incidents that have happened, things that have been covered up.
And so when we look at the UFO file, what we're seeing is the actual secrecy that's driving the society in the background.
Because where is all the money going for the redevelopment of those programs?
And you have to do it outside of the eyes of all of your potential spies and all the rest of it.
So you're going deep, deep underground when you get into the UFO file and the redevelopment.
Of that project.
Now, there are stories that when they were laying out things like Mercury Nevada, and there's actually pictures of this, that they found intense, intense technology.
They found structures and they found tunnels and adopted them, meaning someone else was here much, much earlier doing the same thing.
And when you look at organizations and structures in the past, like Baalbek, for example.
Well, the Romans came across all this in Lebanon and said, well, this is great.
We'll just build the Temple of Jupiter on top of it.
But when archaeologists went down, they found an incredible, incredible underground structures.
And they were tunnels that ran for miles, but nobody knew who built them because it looked like they went back 70,000 years ago.
alex jones
And now we know there's all sorts of stuff, just as the ancients said, under the Great Pyramid Complex.
@darkjournalist
Exactly.
That's the SAR radar.
That is the breakthrough.
We just did a documentary on that called Pyramid X. In fact, a lot of Mystery School information from the Steiner work to the Cayce work talks about Pyramid X being beneath the structure of Giza and how Giza is a much, much older structure than 2500 BC, for example.
It's interesting because the way that they place it, Cayce in particular, puts the pyramid at 10,500 BC.
But when they asked him while he was in trance, how did they select that spot?
And he said, oh, they were doing archaeology.
So how old?
Is this plateau there at Giza?
And why is it such the central spot for this ancient repository of the knowledge of humanity?
See, in that sense, these things go together because if we had a culture, and I know very often it goes directly to an ancient aliens type thing, it doesn't need to necessarily because you could look at it and say this Atlantean technology was so high and so advanced.
Yeah, they may have had help for sure, but it was so high and so advanced that we are barely catching up to it.
Now, and this is the real disclosure, the real kind of awakening around the whole thing.
What they're trying to give us instead is a kind of Anunnaki have run the show and a potential different line to a human origin story.
And this is where I think the clash is in all of that.
alex jones
But really, we're just the wild humans that have been living up here on the surface.
@darkjournalist
Exactly.
Yeah, who's really running the show?
I think it's a legitimate thing to look at everything that's gone on, let's say, in the past, Five years.
And just say, who was really running this?
You know, who ran the COVID operation?
alex jones
Well, here's an example from the movie Oppenheimer came out a few years ago.
And of course, a lot of attackers, some of it isn't from history that we know.
But instead of building a giant underground base then, they just went to the middle of New Mexico mountains and built their own base in secrecy.
So that's just an example of have it away from people, control it.
And with these underground bases, we know they make...
Most of the people work three, four months at a time before they even get out for a month, these scientists.
That way they can also monitor and control people.
@darkjournalist
Absolutely.
And think about it this way.
And this is kind of, if you listen to some of the stories, the most extreme stories on the UFO side.
Think about Dulce, for example.
Dulce, New Mexico is the most famous underground base for its alien activity.
But nobody knows and hasn't been able to get in there.
It's just this government-run facility.
And at a certain point, there were so many UFOs coming out of there in the 40s and 50s that the Native Americans around that entire mountain structure started to come to give greetings and all this kind of stuff because they were coming from a totally different star visitor mentality.
So whatever was going on there, a number of contractors came forward in the 90s and the 2000s and said, When we were doing our own digs in there, we ran into something else, and then we actually were engaging with a different type of human being.
So whatever you want to believe there, they could have been aliens, they could have been what they call the tall whites, or whatever they have to be.
But very often, the story comes up over and over again that they're accompanied by our military people.
So there's something, there's certainly something going on.
I think it raises a question, regardless of your belief system or where you think this stuff is coming from, it raises the question of who is the highest level of operation there?
alex jones
Well, I asked you this question last time, and I know none of us have all the answers, but we can piece a lot of it together.
Why did the United States get so far ahead of everybody other than the Germans and did everything that we've now built?
The ancients write about basically the exact same thing from people that were in ancient India to just all over.
So how did the ancients just magically guess exactly how this looked and how it worked if it didn't exist before?
@darkjournalist
Yeah, exactly.
This is an excellent point.
And the thing about the United States being ahead, there are a few reasons there.
There was a consolidation of brain power.
There's no doubt about it.
But also, I think they had the jump because early, very early on, a group from Germany, Came over here and were already advanced on the airship side.
You know, there's a lot of research around this.
NIMSA is the name of the group.
But that early airship group, I think, is quite fascinating.
We've included them in our documentaries and the people who've written about them.
And they involve the whole thing about this artist, Delschau, and the things that he created in terms of drawing those arrows, which are far more advanced than anything that we had available at that period in time.
If you look into something called the Cosmos Club, which I've suggested before, is the UFO Bilderberg.
It's still there in DC.
Its members still pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to be part of it.
And they still have the most elite scientific minds.
But I think there was a point where they were at a real zenith.
But if you look at that group, it started in the 1870s.
And it started with a guy who was basically a nobody who discovered the Grand Canyon and did this whole thing.
It's very unusual because the whole track of that became the center of all the people who were interested in the UFO file from Hynek, the highest level government people who were behind the scenes photographing it, Richard Bissell and others.
And unusually, people like President Kennedy and others quit.
They didn't want anything to do with the Cosmos Club because of the secrecy.
Cosmos Club hosted Carl Sagan.
They had a whole series on UFOs on the surface, and they would talk about the most elite things in terms of science.
Right in the heart of that, though, is the person who developed it in the beginning, John Wesley Powell.
And it's very unusual because you have to wonder, what is it that he discovered out there in the Grand Canyon, long, long time ago, 1870, that he would bring back and become the Toast of Washington.
They would establish the Cosmos Club and it would become the center for all this elite activity, including the Millons, including the Rockefellers and everything else.
That's where I think the technological edge is.
And of course, like all good steganography, it's sitting right out there in public.
And they can always say, we're just a group that gets together and meets.
I'm not so sure how much power they have at this point, but they formed a central nexus for developing and talking about the UFO file in public while doing it outside of the venue of the public discourse.
So they could go underground and talk about these things, come back up.
Have their tea and say, we talked about UFOs, astronomy, alien life on Earth, and all the rest of it.
But all of the major people were involved there.
So the Cosmos Club, I think, is a major key.
The other thing that's odd is the founder, even though he was around in the 1870s, he was stationed during the Civil War in Cape Girardeau for five years.
Cape Girardeau is the site of the first, you know, six years before Roswell, the first major crash and retaliation.
And crash retrieval.
So when we look at this type of history, we can connect some of those dots that this is older.
So I think America got ahead of it because they were ahead in the 19th century.
So by the time it hits as a major wave in 47, it actually hits a little bit earlier with the ghost rockets in Europe and Foo Fighters and everything else.
But if you really look at it from that point of view, we had really developed the Rad Lab here.
And the Rad Lab included Vannevar Bush and included John Trump and others.
These people were experts on the secrecy side, so much so that the army came to them and said, can we adopt some of your secrecy methods?
And the Rad Lab, they were developing the most important thing in the world at the time, the Manhattan Project.
But it was the physicist, Sarr Barker, who was rubbed out of history, who said, well, yeah, well, the nuclear thing was the highest secret.
But you know what?
The very highest was the UFO file.
That's the key.
That's the separation in history that we need to get to.
That's the chapter of our history we've been left out of.
It's a pretty major chapter.
It doesn't have a lot of easy answers either.
But I'll tell you one thing, the hearings that they're doing in Congress in relation to this come right to the heart of the missing money, come right to the heart of the underground bases.
If they get stiffed, which a lot of intelligence people and CIA people talking to Congress and saying, oh, we need money for our research for Avi Loeb and his science lab over here at Harvard.
I'm telling you, then that whole thing is going to be a waste.
But in fact, the congressional hearings offer the best opportunities to open up the entire subject around the underground bases.
alex jones
And a good way to get people thinking about it and shadow government and super government and mad science projects as a geoengineering.
Now, since you mentioned Trump's uncle, Trump's rarely talked about this.
He got questioned about this just as his interview was ending by Glenn Beck a few weeks ago.
Here's a clip.
unidentified
You know, the one thing I didn't ask you that I really want to ask you just personally, how crazy is it that you're working with...
Can you just roll this?
donald j trump
Let me put this back on.
unidentified
This is just a personal thing.
How crazy is it that you are working with Elon Musk, today's Tesla, and when Tesla died...
It was your genius uncle that was sent to try to figure out what papers should be kept.
How crazy is that?
donald j trump
So my uncle was a great, brilliant man.
My father's brother.
My father was working very hard to put my uncle through MIT and all that.
And when my uncle graduated, he was so brilliant that MIT said, why don't you stay here and become a professor?
unidentified
It's crazy.
donald j trump
Which is pretty good.
Three different degrees.
It really was amazing.
But as he went through life, he was very successful as a professor at MIT, but he was also very successful at other things like discovering genius things.
And the United States government gave him an assignment of finding out whether or not Mr. Tesla was the real deal or was he not the real deal?
In other words, was he really great or was he just an average guy?
And my uncle did a report on it, and you know what was nice?
He said he was really great.
A lot of people in that position would be jealous.
unidentified
Yeah.
donald j trump
But he actually said he was great.
unidentified
And here you are, working with today's Tesla.
donald j trump
That's right.
unidentified
That's so great.
donald j trump
And Elon's a great guy, too.
unidentified
Yeah.
Great guy.
Thanks.
Thank you.
alex jones
Very cryptic.
@darkjournalist
Unbelievable.
I mean, that's incredible.
alex jones
What's your response to that?
@darkjournalist
Well, the body language, I think, is very telling also, which is he is caught off guard by the question, and he is often used.
alex jones
He starts looking down.
Trump starts, hmm, like he's trying to not, yeah.
@darkjournalist
Yeah, that's pretty unusual.
alex jones
He's looking like, I don't want to really, he's acting very guarded for Trump.
@darkjournalist
Absolutely.
And it's fascinating because Trump, you know, he knows a lot about the UFO file deep, deep in there.
But John Trump.
Was being mentored by Vannevar Bush, who ran the UFO file.
So, you know, you can't get, you have Uncle John at the crisscross between the Tesla information and the UFO file.
That's why when you have Trump walk into this political situation, you know, you could say, well, people resist him for this or for that.
But really, that deep state structure, if he is on the same level with them eye to eye and says, I know about this.
My uncle worked for Banneford Bush.
I know about the UFO file.
That's a big problem for them because they strive to keep the presidents out of that entire process.
When the presidents go and meet with their Russian counterparts, they always are trying to place CIA and state- And that's all come out there.
alex jones
That's why they wanted Nixon out, the most popular president in the last 100 years, poll-wise.
unidentified
Yes.
alex jones
Because he's like, I'm the president.
And they're like, no, you're not.
Kennedy, I'm the president.
Really?
Boom.
In the time we've got left, you sent a bunch of other really interesting exhibits.
What is exhibit two?
What is this?
How does this tie into it?
And then you also sent this other really interesting exhibit.
What is this block of interesting looking stuff?
And then we've got, you know, you've got this.
I think you already mentioned this, but just what are some of these exhibits?
@darkjournalist
This is so important.
This was discovered there was in a mound in Florida.
This is what I think is the actual 2i Atlantean power grid network.
There's an ancient copper plate that was discovered there.
And it's quite fascinating because they didn't know what to do with it.
It was completely out of anything that they had seen before.
Native Americans hadn't done anything like this.
This was so advanced.
And it represented geometrical principles, electromagnetic principles, and it sounded just like what Casey was talking about when he was talking about the Atlantean 2i power grid.
alex jones
And it looks like nothing we've seen from any culture on Earth.
I mean, it looks like sci-fi from the 60s.
@darkjournalist
Yeah, this thing is estimated to be 6,000 years old, all right?
But it's probably a lot older, frankly.
But found in Florida, again, and there's all those rumors always about that hot zone area around the Bahamas and all that being the last place where Atlantis went down and the fleeing survivors going into Mexico and going into Florida and making their way up to Ohio.
And it's interesting because one of the things I put up there is the Serpent Mound in Ohio, one of the first major underground structures.
And one of the things that they haven't been able to figure out about the mound builders is why did they build the mounds like this?
And the idea is that whatever it was that was happening, whether they caused it or it was a natural occurrence, they had taken all the protection off the sun and the mound builders had gone then underground.
This is the first antecedent of that underground culture.
What did they discover under there?
Well, it's weird because when you study what's taken place in terms of underground, there are all these things that we rely on that have been discovered in relation to telluric current, for example.
We got the telegraph.
They stationed them along telluric current levels, and all these maps show exactly where to place the telegraph lines.
This is very interesting because that side of the Serpent Mound is where a comet hit, and it had a very high-end level of magnetite.
And if you go into that history, you're going to find all those ancient cultures where whenever a comet would hit, it would become an ultra-centralized holy site.
alex jones
That's the same thing with Mecca.
@darkjournalist
Yes, exactly.
They have it.
They have all those flashes of an asteroid and flecks of it.
And you have part of that even all the way into King Tut's tomb and all the rest of it.
They found a knife that was a piece of a comet.
So there's this worship of these objects that come in from the solar system.
There's a reason for that.
But the magnetite in particular, I think, is interesting because it shows a scientific knowledge about what's happening there.
That's why they're attracted to it as well.
And we still don't know exactly what's happening there in terms of ancient technology and the ability for them to do things like that.
If you look at it the way the traditional history plays, it doesn't make any sense because the older, more advanced cultures could do things like the pyramids and all the rest of it.
You get just a few thousand years, a few hundred years after that.
Forget it.
They don't even know how to make pyramids anymore.
So something happened.
The technology was taken out of circulation.
And this idea of underground really goes very, very far back.
So I think when we're looking at it like that, we get a much better idea from looking at ancient structures and the type of ancient technology that was in play.
And when you see that, you say, some advanced group was here already.
Whatever they were doing with the technology, whatever wars were taking place, for example.
That's what set everything upside down, and we've rediscovered.
Remember, this is a process not so much of discovery.
We're rediscovering so many of these things.
alex jones
Sure, and then you've got all the Vedic 3,000-year-old stuff out of India, and I've read those.
I mean, it sounds like the script of Star Wars.
All these big metal ships flying around space and giant fireballs.
It sounds like nukes.
It's basically what's described.
Exactly.
It's just fascinating.
Absolutely fascinating.
Well, the good news is public's interest just gets bigger and bigger and bigger.
And the more that people are decompartmentalized, the more we're going to learn.
Darkjournalist, darkjournalist.com on YouTube, darkjournalist.
Daniel List, always amazing.
Thank you so much for the time.
@darkjournalist
Alex, it's great to see you.
alex jones
Thank you.
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All right, folks.
Update on Ed Martin to be the U.S. attorney key area in D.C. to go out for the deep state, which they're going to do.
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unidentified
Yes.
alex jones
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We get to see who's really who at times like this, don't we?
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unidentified
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chase geiser
Ladies and gentlemen, I am Chase Geiser, your host for the remainder of The Alex Jones Show, followed immediately by Owen Schroyer, hosting The War Room from 3 to 6 p.m. Central Time.
It's going to be an outstanding broadcast.
We're anxiously awaiting updates from James O 'Keefe regarding the story that he alluded to last week.
He posted this cryptic video about the biggest story ever and how it scares him and he was going to go dark.
And then yesterday he offered a teaser trailer.
On what the big story is that is set to release at any moment today.
We don't know what time it's going to be coming out.
Alex hasn't shared with the crew any of the details of what the story is.
But the trailer is very intriguing to say the least.
But the first story that I want to cover as we anxiously await what is to come from O 'Keefe is this Operation Restore Justice story.
You will be hunted down, 205 arrested in FBI operation targeting child sex predators.
Let's run this clip and unpack the story on the other side.
pam bondi
They are working tirelessly online dealing with the drugs of our society, the worst of the worst, the people that hide behind a computer and target our young children every single day.
Our law enforcement, our prosecutors sit there and deal with this every day to get these monsters off the street.
Director Patel and I, almost daily in our meetings, talk about these cases.
And what it does to our officers and our prosecutors, but also how many lives are being saved and how many children are being helped by this.
Director Patel is going to get into the specific cases with you in a minute, but what I will tell you is these depraved human beings, if convicted, will face the maximum penalty in prison.
Some life.
We will find you, we will arrest you, and we will charge you.
If you are online targeting a child, you will not escape us.
The FBI and the Department of Justice will come after you and we will prosecute you.
Parents, you have to know.
This is so serious.
Your child has no right to privacy on the Internet.
None.
You have to monitor what your kids are doing.
Whether they're playing games on the Internet, on social media, any other websites that children, teenagers frequent, an online predator can find them.
I always say it's from instant message to instant nightmare.
Parents, they're talking to your kids like they're other children, and they're not.
They're predators.
They pose as children.
They get them sometimes to post explicit pictures of themselves after they talk to them.
And then in some cases, they even try to blackmail the children.
The suicide rate among teens ages 14 to 17 has increased.
As a result of this as well, because teens are taken advantage of and they're manipulated online by child predators.
So all of you being here today and covering this is so important because parents need to know you've got to talk to your kids.
They think they're talking to other children, but most of the time they're not.
Director Patel, thank you.
kash patel
First and foremost, to the Department of Justice under General Bondi's leadership and all its components, because of your courage, we are here today protecting our most vulnerable, all children.
Thank you, General Bondi.
Thank you to so many of your colleagues here today that do this work tirelessly day in and day out and never get a moment's thanks.
We should acknowledge all of them today.
As the FBI director, I'm humbled to leave some of the greatest men and women in law enforcement, and I want to thank our 55 field offices, our 90-plus United States Attorney's offices, our CIOS section, our CRIM division here at the Department of Justice, and our field offices throughout the country with lawyers and prosecutors and agents working tirelessly on some of the harshest criminality we've ever seen.
They don't take breaks because our children deserve a free and open society.
I also want to just take a moment to emphasize the priority of this Department of Justice and this FBI, our children.
If you harm our children, you will be given no sanctuary.
There is no place we will not come to hunt you down.
There is no place we will not look for you.
And there is no cage we will not put you in should you do harm to our children.
The prioritization of this administration and General Bondi has made it abundantly clear to child predators, you will be hunted down and you will be prosecuted.
And that is a refreshing thing to hear for the men and women who do this work tirelessly.
And it's also an acknowledgement of the safety that we look forward to bringing America.
As the Attorney General mentioned, there are a couple of cases worth highlighting.
People in places of public trust have violated not only the law, but that public trust.
To include teachers, law enforcement personnel, and other professionals that we look to safeguard our children have not only violated the law, but violated the trust.
In Minneapolis, defendant Jeremy Francis Plonsky, a Minneapolis state trooper and former army reservist, was arrested for producing child sexual abuse material while in uniform.
Not anymore.
In Norfolk, Virginia, defendant Jose Alexis Valdez Sosa, an illegal immigrant from Mexico, again, allegedly arrested for transporting a minor across state lines.
No more.
Another example, right here in Washington, D.C., in the Metropolitan Police Department, Officer Linwood Barnhill, a former already convicted sex offender, was arrested again for exploiting more victims, more children, while on supervised release.
These are just three examples that show you the extent and the depravity.
of these horrific crimes.
And we need to team up together with the American public to find the rest.
I want to give a special thanks to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children for the tireless work they do in partnering with us.
And again, I want to thank the Department of Justice and all these folks here.
And Pam, thank you for never wavering.
To defend our children.
unidentified
Thank you.
pam bondi
Thank you, Director Patel.
And this ranges from, we have cases from California to New York to Florida.
Our entire country.
And just in one week, again, 115 victims.
Victims we have.
205 offenders have been charged in one week, thanks to the FBI.
So think what's happening throughout this country.
Children are being taken advantage of and we have to stop it.
Thank you for covering this very important topic today.
Thank you.
unidentified
Will you guys take a few questions?
chase geiser
This is a really important topic.
So there you've just heard from Pan Bondi and Kash Patel.
And look, I like Kash Patel.
I haven't arrived at a place where I trust Pan Bondi yet.
I have doubts and reservations.
It's great that 205 predators have been caught.
But frankly, I'm not really impressed.
We have a Federal Bureau of Investigation with astounding resources.
In fact, if the crew can look up, what's the annual budget for the FBI?
And they're bragging about the fact that they were able to catch 205 predators or charge 205 predators this week.
As if that's some astounding number.
When there's 320,000 missing children, I think 5,000 of them might have been found, according to Tom Homan.
When there's an annual budget of $11.3 billion, you realize that Alex Rosen has personally caught more pedophiles than the FBI has charged, or than the Attorney General has charged this week.
Personally, one guy.
I mean, this is somebody who has figured out, Alex Rosen has figured out a system to consistently catch pedophiles in virtually every state, develop a case, have enough evidence to justify I don't know.
I mean, he's facing time in prison for calling out these pedophiles, for catching them, for getting them arrested, for chasing them down.
He's actually facing charges for some sort of a hate crime or something.
In our FBI.
Kash Patel and Panbody are going out there and bragging about how, oh, 205 predators have been charged this week.
That's great.
They should be charged.
But the studies that I've seen show that, like, 2% to 3% of adults in the world have pedophilic tendencies.
That's a heck of a lot more than 205.
Oh, at this rate, in 10 weeks, we'll have 2,000 of them.
And then we'll have 10,000 of them by the end of the year.
What's 2% of the population in the United States of America?
10% would be 35 million.
5% would be 17.5 million.
So 2.5% would be like 8 million.
So there's 8 million of them.
But at this rate, we're going to catch 10,000 of them by the end of the year.
I'm sorry.
I mean, this is great.
Operation Restore Justice.
You've got continuity of...
Leadership and message from the Attorney General and the Director of the FBI.
You've got at least vocally some support for catching these predators.
I mean, that's all well and good, but if you're only going to charge 205 of them a week, that's signaling to the rest of the pedophiles in the United States of America when you brag about that, that if I'm a pedophile and I engage in child pornography and exploitation and blackmail...
That I've got a 99.9% chance or a 99.5% chance of totally getting away with it.
I don't understand why everybody is so excited about this, why there's a press conference about the fact that they caught 200 of like 10 million pedophiles in seven days when they have a budget of $11.3 billion a year and Alex Rosen is self-funding catching more pedophiles and actually getting them arrested and charged all over the country.
We've caught dozens of pedophiles from California to New York to Florida.
Dozens?
unidentified
There are millions of them.
chase geiser
Hundreds of alleged sex predators arrested in a nationwide operation.
I'm sorry.
I'm just not that impressed.
It's great.
And I want to be a cheerleader for the Trump administration.
I'm glad that I voted for Trump.
I would vote for Trump again.
I think he's net positive.
I love what RFK is doing.
I love what Doge is doing.
I love how these tariffs are playing out and setting up America for long-term success into the 21st century by catalyzing the diversification of where we manufacture our goods into other areas like India.
I love all this stuff.
I mean, the guy has a total net positive.
But Pam Bondi is like...
Not very impressive.
I'm sorry.
I'm just not impressed.
And it's so unimpressive that I'm beginning to wonder and think if she's just a bad actor or maybe she just doesn't know how to do the job and she's in over her head and all she knows how to do is kind of put herself together and say talking points and go on Fox News and hold these press conferences.
I mean, maybe the fact maybe she's holding this press conference today because she's worried some bombshell story is going to come out against her soon over these Epstein files, which she still insists.
There's video footage, hours upon hours of Epstein and underage victims that the FBI is still going through.
They have a budget of $11.3 billion.
They can follow us around.
They can coordinate with the CIA and others.
To manifest civil lawsuits against InfoWars or Alex Jones for $1.5 billion, but they can't catch more than 205 criminals in a week?
How is this impressive?
How is this something that we should be so excited about?
You mean you caught two predators in every single state?
As if there aren't thousands upon thousands in every state?
I'm sorry, but this just sucks.
For $11.3 billion a year, I expect better from the FBI.
I expect them to actually be surveilling these predators on a much more massive scale than they're surveilling Infowars or Alex Jones or Chase Geiser or Owen Schroyer.
And we know from the guests that we have on the show, the experts that we have on the show, the research that we've done, the reports that we've read, even the studies that we've looked into, that these predators are so easy to catch.
They're all over places like video games like Roblox or Minecraft or Fortnite.
All the games themselves even have suggestive themes where you go into Roblox and there's like dress her up or whatever and it's like a little kid and you can put her in different bikinis and stuff.
I mean, it's just so obviously.
Inappropriate for children to be playing these games.
All you have to do if you're the FBI is hire somebody like Alex Rosen to train hundreds of agents and then figure out how to go into these games and find people who are pretending to be children and you catch them.
I mean, frankly, I don't know how many episodes, maybe the crew can look this up too, how many episodes were ever made of To Catch a Predator?
They caught a different predator in every episode.
I bet you there were more than 200 episodes of that show that were made.
To Catch a Predator, the television show from like the 90s and the early 2000s, I guarantee that they caught more pedophiles than the FBI this week.
That's just not impressive at all.
And the fact that she would make the same mistake again that she made with the Epstein drop, or lack thereof, months ago.
Where she would come out and hype up some amazing story as if it's a celebration.
She put a binder together for all the social media influencers about all the new Epstein documents that weren't even new documents at all.
She would say on air that she has all the documents and files on her desk and they're just being vetted.
She would say that she's getting truckloads of information, truckloads of documents, and then they would never be released to the public whatsoever.
Still haven't.
Maybe they will.
She saw how that backfired, and then now she's coming out and bragging about the fact that despite the fact that there's an FBI field office in virtually every major city or county in the United States of America, only two pedophiles per state in the United States of America have been charged in the last seven days?
I mean, maybe I'm missing something.
You guys can reply on X under at Infowars, the live feed, or under at RealAlexJones.
They had 20 episodes.
Okay.
So I stand corrected.
I stand corrected.
The FBI has officially done ten times better than the television show to catch a predator.
Congratulations.
But it's just unbelievable to me.
And all this in the context of the fact that there's this major escalation going on overseas between India and Pakistan.
We know, based on what George Papadopoulos said and other details, that a lot of this has to do with just countering the Belt and Road Initiative.
The Belt and Road Initiative, of course, being a trade corridor sponsored by China, which exploits third world countries by loaning them inordinate amounts of money that they can never pay back.
And so they're acquired and leveraged by the CCP.
And then it attempts to create a trade monopoly basically over the entire hemisphere of the planet.
Major part of the Belt and Road Initiative, the Belt and Road Corridor goes through the It's disputed territory between Pakistan and India.
India says it's theirs.
Pakistan says it's theirs.
Obviously, China wants it because India is part of the IMEC corridor, which is the direct competitor to the Belt and Road corridor.
So China's sponsoring Pakistan.
And now what you're going to see is the United States divert its resources away from Pakistan into India.
And that's going to be a proxy war between China and the United States of America, just like...
The conflict between Israel and Iran is really a proxy war between the United States and China, and it's all about the dollar as the global reserve currency.
But we're going to get into more news on the other side.
I'm going to show you some of President Trump's comments about this conflict.
I'm going to talk a little bit about this exclusive report that Representative Anna Paulina Luna proposes to strip deep state surveillance tools by repealing the Patriot Act.
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chase geiser
All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're back.
I'm Chase Geiser hosting the remainder of The Alex Jones Show before the legendary, the iconic Owen Schroer takes over with the war room from 3 to 6 p.m. Central.
We've got this just in.
President Trump says he's disappointed in Tom Tillis for coming out against his nominee for U.S. attorney for D.C., Ed Martin.
Crime is down in Washington, D.C., street crime, violent crime by 25 percent.
People have noticed a big difference.
Confirm Ed Martin.
Let's watch this clip.
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Senator Tillis has come out against Ed Martin as U.S. attorney.
Do you have any response to that?
donald j trump
Well, it's disappointing because...
You know, I know it.
He's very talented.
Crime is down in Washington, D.C. Street crime, violent crime by 25 percent.
And it's people have seen they've noticed a big difference.
So I haven't I didn't know that.
But if he if anybody voted against him, I feel very badly about it, only in the sense that.
In this short period of time that he's been there, crime is down 25% in Washington, D.C. But that's really up to the senators.
If they feel that way, they have to vote the way they vote.
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They have to follow their heart and they have to follow their mind.
chase geiser
So the major story in the last 24 hours.
has been this development between India and Pakistan and Alex did a wonderful job of covering it with George Papadopoulos earlier today so I don't want to beat a dead horse but I want to show you this clip which I found very interesting from Donald Trump about the recent escalations between India and Pakistan I want to give you some context on the other side of this clip About what's really going on that I think is very interesting and telling about the nature of this schism that is the populist movement
in our government versus the deep state former establishment that still persists and permeates and saturates so many of our institutions, namely the intelligence community.
Let's watch this clip and unpack it.
unidentified
What's your position?
donald j trump
Oh, it's so terrible.
My position is I get along with both.
I know both very well.
And I want to see them work it out.
I want to see them stop.
And hopefully they can stop now.
They've gone tit for tat.
So hopefully they can stop now.
But I know both.
We get along with both countries very well.
Good relationships with both.
And I want to see it stop.
And if I can do anything to help, I will.
I will be there.
chase geiser
All right.
So obviously he wants it to stop.
There was a clip yesterday that was circulating of Trump saying, why are we involved?
He even says that when he was making the point, why are we involved?
He said, they were like, sir, sir, but we, he's like, what do we care?
Let them fight.
Let them fight.
Let India and Pakistan fight.
But if you look at the details, it's very interesting what's going on because we fund a significant amount of aid to Pakistan.
Because there's been a bidding war for Pakistan's loyalty between the United States and China for some time.
Now people will say, what does this have to do with trade chase?
This conflict between India and Islam or India and Pakistan has been going on for 700 years.
And yes, it's true that it's been going on for 700 years.
Just like the conflict between Jewish people and Muslims has been going on in the Holy Land for thousands of years.
Certainly hundreds of years, but thousands of years there's been conflict over that land.
But just because a conflict has existed for an extended period of time and has cultural or religious explanations or foundations to it doesn't mean that it's not being exploited by establishment infrastructure or establishment political elites for their own gain.
I mean, even if you look at the extended scenes from Lord of the Rings to Towers.
There are scenes of Saruman riling up the local villagers to pillage and burn different townships throughout Rohan.
Saruman's going out there to these mobs with their pitchforks and their torches and he's saying, they've stolen your lands!
And they're all getting riled up and he's using some sort of dark magic to get them into some conflict with one another.
Obviously there was some deep-seated actual problem between these mobs of people and...
The Kingdom of Rohan that was just being churned, catalyzed, nurtured in order to have a conflict established that was beneficial to the political aims of Sauron in the movie.
I mean, this is a very common thing throughout history that leaders or superpowers will go in, they will learn about an existing conflict and stoke those tensions in order to have regime changes or coups.
This is common.
And so, yes, this conflict between India and Pakistan or the Hindus and the Muslims has been going on for decades and decades and centuries and centuries, and of course it has to do with the same regions, but it doesn't mean that China and the United States aren't playing their hand in this game of chess just because some of the pieces have been moving around since long before China or the United States got involved.
There are new players at the table of a very old game.
And you'll look at the amount of aid that the United States gives to Pakistan.
It's much more, as I understand it, based on the research that I did briefly yesterday as this conflict began to escalate, it's much more than the aid that's given to India, specifically for military aid or things of that nature.
But Pakistan is in astronomical sums of debt to China, because that's what China has been doing through its Belt and Road Initiative, is it goes into these desperate regions or countries or peoples.
And it loans them all of this money in exchange for the development and deployment of the Belt and Road infrastructure, the corridor, the trade corridor that they're trying to establish so they can have a monopoly over trade and then subvert the dollar as the global reserve currency.
And then these countries can never repay this debt to China because the terms are like Tridia Versailles-esque terms.
I mean, they're so one-sided, disproportionate, and brutal, but these people are so desperate that they accept them.
It's like shark lending in the ghetto from like a paycheck lender.
Well, the interest rates are just super high.
And Pakistan is so indebted to China that it's more loyal or more subject to the whims of China than to the United States.
So we go into these countries.
Pakistan is just one example of dozens if not hundreds of examples.
And we try to saturate them with aid that they never have to pay back to buy them off so we can leverage them later.
And what China does is the opposite.
They go in and they try to saturate these countries and regions and peoples with debt so that they're beholden to China.
And they're more afraid of not being able to pay back the debt than they are of losing the aid that the United States has given to them.
It's like, who are you more afraid of?
The nice guy in the neighborhood that's helping everybody out?
Or the mob boss that's showing up with some goons to take a cut from your business?
I mean, you're going to be more afraid of the mob boss than the nice sheriff who's just trying to keep everybody safe and following traffic rules.
And so Pakistan is now the representative of China in this conflict.
It's all the Chinese interests with the region that's being contested or disputed because that's where the Belt and Road corridor goes right through.
India, once the IMEC corridor, they've agreed to side with the United States.
Remember, J.D. Vance was just there weeks ago with his family.
Important meetings were had, important conversations were had.
India has decided that they're going to side with the United States despite all of China's efforts to subvert that because we have promised them that India will be in the 21st century what China was in the 20th century.
In terms of India will be the new manufacturer for the United States of America because their population is not shrinking, it's growing.
And China's population is absolutely collapsing, so labor is getting more expensive in China because there aren't as many people to work, so there's more bidding for their labor.
It drives the prices of the labor up, the cost of labor up, which drives the price of goods up, which makes it less competitive.
And eventually they won't even be able to meet the demand of other markets throughout the world because they won't have enough labor to do it.
So we're diversifying into India.
China's trying to stop this at all costs.
So it's funding Iran, which in turn funds terrorism to try to destabilize Israel, where the IMEC corridor is going to shoot off into Europe from the port of Haifa.
It's funding Pakistan.
And many of the radical Islamic terrorist activities that are occurring are enabled and supported and funded at least indirectly by China, but intentionally so.
They've even established funds and infrastructure, financial tools and mechanisms to adhere to the strictest forms of Islam in terms of monetary practices, despite the fact that China basically has no patience whatsoever for any Islamism.
In its own country domestically.
So it knows it's bad for the country domestically, but it propels it and props it up internationally because it knows that Islam is a mechanism through which the West can be totally destabilized and subverted.
And exploited so that they can then use that destabilization to usher in new infrastructure that becomes a monopoly of trade so that the dollar can be subverted as a global reserve currency and then the United States would no longer be an economic superpower.
Using this leverage, it would then fund the rapid development and intellectual property theft necessary to catalyze and launch robotics and artificial intelligence that would then replace its shrinking labor pool.
So they're trying to replace their own population with artificial intelligence while our own Department of Defense national security apparatus is trying to out-compete them, reduce our dependence on them, and they're simultaneously waging an economic war on the United States of America through proxies like Iran and Pakistan.
So when I see that India is bombing Pakistan after Pakistan has been conducting terrorist activity in the disputed regions, On tourists.
I don't see a conflict 700 years old between Hindus and Muslims, though that is what is being exploited here.
I see proxies being played against one another in a massive global economic and trade war that is taking place right before our eyes.
I mean, we have Chinese leadership about ready to meet with the United States to discuss trades.
We've got this tariff war that's just escalated.
For some reason, this conflict 700 years old didn't seem to really escalate at all under the last administration because the last administration wasn't provoking China.
It was too busy provoking Russia.
But now that we're coming in and we're actually representing our own interests with these tariffs and trying to diversify away from China, and we understand that China is collapsing, so we're trying to get ahead of it so we don't have to respond to it, but we can instead be proactive about the inevitability of it, now we're seeing China play a hard hand.
Now we're seeing China...
Stoked tensions between Iran and Israel.
We're seeing China stoked tensions between Pakistan and India.
And we've seen this from our leadership, whether it's Chuck Schumer or Mike Johnson.
Mike Johnson, in his first speech as Speaker of the House of Representatives of the United States of America, was going on this hyperbolic...
Rant about the importance of protecting our interests in the Indo-Pacific region.
Chuck Schumer, same thing, Indo-Pacific region.
You can search the term on X, Indo-Pacific region, and you'll find clip after clip after clip of Republicans and Democrats for some reason out of nowhere the last few years talking about how important the Indo-Pacific region is.
And it's because of this inevitable collapse of China that our intelligence community has seen coming.
It's because our intelligence community understands that a collapse of the dollar is actually the greatest threat to national security.
So it's willing to do any utilitarian thing, Machiavellian thing, humanitarian crisis, or crime against humanity in order to bolster up the dollar.
I mean, we've seen it since Vietnam, into Iraq, into Afghanistan, into Libya, and now we're seeing it into Pakistan, and Israel versus Iran.
It's all about the dollar as a global reserve currency.
It's bankers' wars, just as all wars have been.
Bankers' wars.
And ultimately, this problem is never really going to go away unless we Stop trying to treat the symptoms of it by arguing about what the interest rates should be at the Federal Reserve, and we treat the actual cause of the cancer, which is the fact that we have a fractional reserve banking system based off of fiat currency backed by nothing but war,
violence, and force in foreign lands of people who hate us that will never assimilate with us, while major superpowers seek to exploit these conflicts in order to erode the integrity of our culture and civilization at every angle possible.
Whether it's China sending 30,000 military-aged men into the United States of America at parade rest through the southern border, or whether it's China conducting military drills with Canada's Justin Trudeau as the leader under the last administration north of our border, whether it's the fact that they almost certainly stole an F-35B, which the military was too ashamed to admit was stolen, and they just claimed that it was crashed, even though there was only one witness who said they heard it or saw it.
And all we got was footage of a burnt-up field, no imagery of any parts of a plane whatsoever.
There's a pilot who was ejected, said it was due to bad weather.
You know an F-35B can fly through bad weather.
You know that for 13 years there have been reports that the Chinese had all the schematics and totally hacked the infrastructure of the F-35B.
We know that the F-35B is the only jet in the Air Force that can initiate an ejection of a pilot without the pilot actually pulling the ejection lever, right?
Under certain conditions, it will automatically eject the pilot.
So if you can hack an F-35B, you can force eject the pilot, and you can steal the plane, and our government will just say, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, weather caused it to crash.
As if it's not the most sophisticated piece of flying machinery ever created in the history of aerial warfare.
I mean, just this week, what, where we have two Hornets get lost or destroyed from the USS Harry S. Truman?
One of them in an elevator, another one, I don't even know what happened.
I don't know if it's a DEI thing or if they were actually killed or destroyed on some mission and our government's just covering up for them again because we're in this hot conflict with the Houthis or with China.
And you've got to understand, the Houthis are China.
Everything that we see from radical Islam actually sources back more to China than to some of the other entities that the finger's been pointed at.
Because China wants the dollar to be subverted.
Just as Russia does, just as Iran does.
And our deep state wants us to be in all these conflicts.
That's why they're happy with open borders and terrorist activity and ramping up definitions of what terrorism is and what hate crimes are and what anti-Semitism means, whatever.
They just ramp it all up.
They just escalate how serious and how bad it is.
And while they're bragging about catching just 205 predators in the last seven days, they're simultaneously putting virtually all of us with any sort of patriot sentiment on a list.
We've got Representative Anna Paulina Luna proposing to strip deep state surveillance tools by repealing the Patriot Act.
On Wednesday, she proposed legislation to eliminate the intelligence community's surveillance tools that erode Americans' civil liberties.
Quote, for over two decades, rogue actors within our U.S. intelligence agencies have used the Patriot Act to create the most sophisticated, unaccountable surveillance apparatus in the Western world, Luna said in a written statement at Breitbart News.
And it's true, the Patriot Act was a major travesty.
Alex Jones predicted that it was going to happen on September 12th of 2001, as soon as the 9-11 attacks absolutely actually happened.
No, he predicted those months in advance a number of times.
He predicted that there was going to be this major expansion of the surveillance state.
Big brother, so to speak.
That there were going to be major assassinations in the Middle East that we were going to see over the next coming years.
It's all there from the broadcast on September 12, 2001.
And you can find it on archive.org.
Just type in Alex Jones, September 12, 2001.
And you can watch the whole two, three hour broadcast.
And it is true what Edward Snowden...
Revealed and said about tools being used to spy on Americans both abroad and domestically.
That the government now has the power to listen to us through our cell phones even when they're turned off or even when the battery is removed.
That they can see us through our webcams.
That they can read our bank statements.
That they can read our emails without us knowing that they've read our emails.
Basically anything that you do on the internet whatsoever.
Can be tracked by the government under the Patriot Act, and anything that you do in the real world can also be tracked because you're carrying that device around with you.
So they have transcended metaphysical boundaries or physical boundaries, and they can know anything about anyone at any time, but they can't catch more than 205 predators in a seven-day period.
Can't figure that one out.
And much of this Patriot Act actually expired and was not renewed in 2020, I believe right before the Biden administration came in.
I believe that was the last time there was a vote on it.
I could be mistaken.
I'm just pulling this from the archives of my memory.
Most of it expired.
But we know that just because something becomes illegal.
Or just because something expires, it doesn't mean that the government stops the program.
A famous example of this is MKUltra.
In the 70s, it was revealed that the government was doing psychological experiments on civilians and military personnel alike without them knowing it, drugging them with LSD, spying on them in brothels that were set up or sponsored by the intelligence apparatus, torturing them in hospitals, playing music, trying to induce psychosis.
Trying to do things like break beyond some interdimensional barrier at the expense of the mental health of all these people that were experimented on.
Some of them still victims today.
Some of them who have been guests on the Alex Jones Show for many years.
And then we catch them doing it.
We call them out, and suddenly all the documents are just destroyed.
No one's held accountable.
Nobody goes to prison whatsoever for this major crime against humanity.
I mean, this is Hitlerian-level stuff.
This is Nazi-level medical experimentation on innocent people without their informed consent happening right under the United States of America after we just had the Nuremberg trials just 25 years before.
25 or 30 years before.
And what do they do?
No, no, they don't shut it down.
They just call it something else or they launch these operations under new names like Gladio or others, whatever.
I don't know what the follow-up name to MKUltra was.
And so my point is, just as they did with MKUltra where they were caught, destroyed evidence, and then just, you know, shifted personnel around so they could keep doing it.
That's what they did with the Patriot Act.
Oh, it expired?
Do you think the government stopped spying on people through their webcams?
Or through their microphones?
Do you think that the courts stop issuing secret warrants?
No way.
I mean, we saw what they did to the January 6th defendants.
They found virtually all of them in a matter of like 30 days.
But the FBI is so impressive because it charged 205 predators.
Four from every state in the last seven days.
That's just so impressive.
So there's 205 predators who have been charged in the last seven days by the FBI, which has a budget of about, let's say, $12 billion a year.
It's 11.3.
But it's a billion dollars a month.
205 a week is about 800 a month.
Let's just say it's 1,000.
So we spend a billion dollars a month.
We catch 1,000 predators a month.
What is that, $1 million per predator spent?
I think Alex Rosen is doing a much better job, frankly.
But folks, Owen Schroer is coming on to host The War Room in about two minutes from 3 to 6 p.m. Central Time.
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alex jones
Now, you told me you've never heard of methylene blue.
roseanne barr
Uh-uh.
alex jones
It is a complex molecule that the Germans invented.
The UN calls it, which I'm not really a fan of, the UN, the most important drug ever invented.
We don't sell it as a drug, it's a supplement.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr., you guys put that on screen, famously takes three shots of it.
That's triple the dose you're supposed to take.
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roseanne barr
Okay, maybe I better take a half a dose because I'm old.
alex jones
Okay.
Here we go.
roseanne barr
Okay, what do you do?
Drink the whole thing?
alex jones
Yeah.
roseanne barr
Jog it?
alex jones
I've given this to around 200 people now and half have extreme energy within 30 minutes and get blown away by it.
A small percent get scared they get so much energy.
And three or four people have felt nothing.
But what I really feel is weeks into it, because I take another Bethlehem Blue, it wasn't as strong.
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Is that my workouts, my stamina, my clarity, everything is just next level.
And everything else I take, the other supplements, it's synergistically boosted.
So I hope everybody tries it because you just keep...
And I know you'll tell me the truth.
roseanne barr
I will.
alex jones
So here you go.
roseanne barr
Okay.
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It's not tasty, but it's not horrible.
alex jones
Well, yeah.
Normal methylene blue tastes horrible.
This has natural mint and vanilla in it to just try to kill the taste.
But it does not have a nice taste.
roseanne barr
Well, I think I had enough.
alex jones
Well, that was only a half dose, so if you only drink half, that's a quarter dose.
roseanne barr
Okay, so wait.
alex jones
You know what Mary Poppins says, a spoonful of sugar, but some people feel it in five minutes, most in 30 if you're going to feel it.
roseanne barr
It'd be so great if I did feel it.
alex jones
Oh, I think you're going to feel it.
I mean, almost everybody does.
roseanne barr
Cool.
alex jones
The first time you take, a lot of people feel electricity shooting through their hands.
roseanne barr
Like what?
Shooting through their hands?
alex jones
Electricity, like your Emperor Palpatine.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
Unlimited power!
Power!
Limited power!
roseanne barr
Am I gonna be like that?
alex jones
Well, I'm like that normally.
roseanne barr
Yeah, you are like that normally.
unidentified
*music*
alex jones
So that's what Bethlehem Blue does.
roseanne barr
I feel tingling fingers.
alex jones
You're feeling the Palpatine love?
roseanne barr
I think I feel the Palpatine love, yeah.
It's our government.
We can't depend on anybody but ourselves.
We have to put our boots on the ground and go in there and demand, not ask, demand.
alex jones
And release our unlimited power!
roseanne barr
Because this is our country.
The one we send our kids to fight and die for.
None of them do.
We gotta do it.
It's the working people of this country and when they get it together and talk to their neighbors and forget all the divisions they're forcing us into, it's gonna fall and it's gonna fall fast and then we're gonna have the government we dream of, the government we pray for.
unidentified
*Screaming* Yeah!
*Loud laughter* We gotta do it!
I know!
roseanne barr
I feel it in my head and neck, too.
Like, when I'm talking, it seems like it's not really me talking.
I can hear my talking and going, "Wow." I agree.
alex jones
It's almost like an out-of-body experience.
I didn't tell you that.
It's like you're behind yourself.
roseanne barr
That is what it feels like.
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