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The Deep State's TOTAL DESTRUCTION Is At Hand! High-Level FBI Sources Have Confirmed That 14+ Terabytes Of Previously Hidden Epstein Pedo-Files Are Now In The Hands Of Trump's FBI Director Kash Patel, And They Have Been Distributed To FBI Field Offices Across The Nation With Orders That, "It Is The Highest Priority To Investigate & Prosecute Everyone Involved!" — MUST-WATCH FULL SHOW 3/25/25
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, you're going to get information that nobody else has figured out.
And because of a lot of research, a lot of experience, and also the fact that Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlantic about 14 years ago wanted to come interview me, and he's the famous globalist Israeli operative that worked at the famous Israeli torture prison.
As a head jail guard, that's where he started out.
Nice guy.
He wanted to come interview me.
And 14 years ago, I still did some interviews with the mainstream media.
I haven't done them in six, seven, eight years.
I just don't ever do it anymore.
Because they're all just corporate spies or MI6 or CIA or Mossad.
Every time.
And when he came here, he basically...
I wanted to interview him a few hours and he wanted to go to dinner and I went with him to dinner.
He was super paranoid, super scared of me.
And he just went ahead and said, what agency do you work for?
And I said, I don't work for anybody.
I'm independent.
He goes, well, that's not what we hear.
And now I realize that was right around the time Obama did a national security order on me that we got five weeks ago from the Trump administration and now we have an FBI agent, high-level whistleblower Kyle Serafin coming in.
Who's able to look at the document coding and tell me that there's literally hundreds of other files, and that it's a high-level national security threat, like I was Xi Jinping or something.
And that ties into all of this, but the guy is a definite master spy, and those guys are in all the agencies.
I mean, I would say he's got the cutout.
Definitely, he was Mossad.
And before that, Shin Bet.
That's my view, my research view, my approximation.
And then he's got a heavy CIA, and he told me, basically.
He said, no, I've sworn allegiance to America.
I work with the U.S. government.
And he says, you can tell me, who do you work with?
And I said, dude.
And that was the same thing when they did all their lawsuits later.
They just kept asking depositions, who is in charge?
Who is your boss?
And I kept saying, I am.
I am.
But these people are all puppets, so they just can't believe that an independent person has hurt them this bad.
That's how it always works in history, you dumbasses.
So, I know what's going on with this big Intel leak, scandaled, nothing burger garbage.
And so if you look at these articles, how does all this tie together?
Overhead shot, please.
I have five stacks here with all these video clips.
What does the great fake child trafficking epidemic have to do with the Trump administration accidentally texting me its war plans?
That's Jeffrey Goldberg.
And tied into Milley giving the top Chinese general the U.S. battle plans.
Tied into Steve Jobs' wife.
Oh, it has everything to do.
So, this is a direct attack and This has got Vault 7 written all over it.
And that's CIA spoofing of addresses and information.
And they're trying to pass a law, administratively, it's been blocked by law, but they're trying to get through in Australia, where the government there can break into your profile or into your chats and pose as you, even frame you.
And that's why we're getting responses from the head of the NSA and others that...
Well, it's not clear.
We didn't have him in the list.
It was somebody else.
But how did he get sent it?
Come on, people.
When Biden ordered all the federal agencies to use Signal, and everybody thinks Signal's so good, and all these other people, these journalists I know, always want to use it.
And I said, it's more spied on than anything else.
I mean, the government, the U.S. government tells you to use it.
That's because they're the criminal group above it, wants to make sure it's got back doors to everything.
Holy mackerel!
Now what they wanted to shut down was Telegram they didn't control, and now they've arrested the leader of that.
I'll explain it all when we come back, but if you want the facts of what's going on, this is it.
This is their big move.
Ladies and gentlemen, it is Tuesday, March 25th, 2025.
We're entering the start of the 64th day since Trump got...
Inaugurated on January 20th, 2025.
All right, ladies and gentlemen.
They have ongoing incendiary hearings in the Senate Oversight Intel Committee.
And they are attempting to launch a new hoax.
Not that Trump and his administration are Russian agents, but that they're Chinese agents and that Elon is a Chinese agent with no evidence.
A week ago, they launched the hoax that, or six days ago, they launched the hoax that Elon was going to be briefed on the secret battle plans against China.
That was completely made up.
That's been confirmed.
So that's disappeared.
And then next, yesterday afternoon, Jeffrey Goldberg, a known Israeli operative, at the Atlantic, the Epstein publication, literally.
I mean, it's the group that sits above that.
Steve Jobs' widow owns it.
He comes out and says, oh, I was sent secret war plans.
Hours before the strikes on the Houthis that are allied with Iran and against Israel and the United States.
And then the Trump administration scrambled around and the head of the NSA and others said, well, we don't see him listed in this feed.
And Trump just said, hey, let's just own it and say, we learned our lesson.
Let's move on.
But Trump, quite frankly, doesn't understand how this intel stuff works.
So, Goldberg visited me once, back when I would still do corporate interviews.
I phased him out in the last six, seven, eight years.
Last one I did was with Megyn Kelly.
You saw how that turned out.
Total disinformation.
Total head job.
And that's a whole other subject.
Why is the Trump administration even talking to people at all so they can claim this stuff?
Because they just talk to you in corporate media so they can misrepresent, twist, and lie about what you said.
That's why you should never talk to them other than F you.
That's what I send them.
That's what Tucker sends them.
So, when I say it's my opinion that Jeff Goldberg is a Mossad slash Shin Bet CIA, it's also my opinion that Mount Rushmore is made out of stone.
It's my opinion that the Atlantic Ocean is made out of salt water.
It is my opinion that the sun is hot.
He was a high-level jailer, jail guard at the famous Israeli torture prison.
He's hooked in at the highest levels of the editor of the Atlantic, which is the globalist Mossad CIA talking point crossover group.
Only. The Financial Times of London or the New York Times, and that's only some of their writers, are as important when it comes to the mouth of the New World Order.
And so Goldberg, right around the time I was being, we now have the secret documents that are public, listed as a national security threat by the Obama administration to be investigated and to have QMET try to infiltrate our operation.
And we've got more with a major FBI whistleblower, Kyle Serafin, in studio today on the documents we got five weeks ago from the Trump administration.
And he can use the codes on the documents to tell us a lot more and about how there were hundreds and hundreds of other documents that shows in there.
He shows up, doesn't want to do an interview when he gets here, basically.
He says, I'm not really here for that.
We want to know who you work for.
And the reason I'm telling you this story is it ties into all this.
And I'm like, what do you mean?
I mean, I just studied politics in the world on a popular show.
He goes, uh-huh, well, you know, the administration, others want to know if you're dangerous.
They were trying to figure out who you work for.
And we now know from this big FBI investigation that that's what they were trying to find out then.
It's been open for 13 years.
Ongoing until Trump discovered it.
He didn't find out about it the last administration.
They kept everything secret for me.
And this is obviously part of that because that was the questions and all.
I knew what he was doing when it happened.
I talked about it days after.
I said, that guy's a...
Mossad or CIA, probably both.
And now I know a lot more how this stuff works.
The real spies are in it all.
It's just the same group at the top.
That's why you got CIA, Mossad, all of it with JFK.
It's all just tentacles, heads of the Hydra.
And he goes, well, let's go to dinner.
And he's super nervous at dinner and just absolutely acts like I am a 40-foot-long King Cobra about to bite him.
And I'm just sitting there relaxing.
And I'm just like, so you're basically, yeah, we're here to see how big a threat you are.
And come on, you can tell me who you work for.
And, you know, we'd be interested in working with you, maybe.
And, of course, I had much bigger offers before that and after that from at the time the richest guy in the world.
That was an off-record meeting, so I didn't give the details of it.
But it wasn't Elon Musk at the time.
And now that billionaire.
You know, claims he's buddies with Trump and being a nice guy.
He might own a big newspaper in D.C. So, you don't seem to ever deny that, do you?
No, it's not.
Top Republican law firm, top Democrat law firm meeting two days long.
Actually, one was two days, one was one day.
It was two different meetings.
But I didn't go the second time I sent a representative.
And they said, you're going to be massively sued.
You've seen the PR campaign.
That's just beginning.
If you don't come work with us, $50 million a year to you alone.
And you'll run a whole news organization, but we'll tell you what to say and do to help people.
You're going to have bad stuff happen.
And you saw what happened after that.
And it's all CIA PR firms doing that.
And MI6, CIA funds them to do it.
They fund Mossad to do it because it's outside congressional oversight.
And I told you this for years.
It's all in the congressional hearings just last week again.
Targeting Elon and Trump and MI6 and the rest of it.
So, I know Jeffrey Goldberg, and I already knew about him and knew who he was.
I knew how important the Atlantic was.
So, when I see this pop up yesterday, and he's like, oh, I got sent secret battle info on this group chat on Signal, and what are they doing using that?
They shouldn't be using it.
And, oh, about an hour before the strikes, I just sat back and I went, You know, in Vault 7, released by Edward Snowden, and that stuff's old information, it's all about the CIA breaking into computers, breaking into chat rooms, breaking into things like Signal, and spoofing you and misrepresenting to plant different things on people and set them up.
Child porn, say you're posting national security documents, all sorts of examples.
And that's what pissed Snowden off, because they were trying that for people he knew.
And then you've got...
Famously, Biden ordering, right when he got into office, all the U.S. government intel agencies to use Signal.
And that's all these other reporters and people said, oh, it's what the government uses, you should use it.
I'm like, I'm not hiding anything.
I guarantee you, a regular phone call is less listened to than Signal.
Everybody's saying use Signal.
Then when Biden said use Signal, I'm like, are you insane?
And I still, people still send me stuff, I still talk to them, but...
You hear everything on air that I say off air other than I sent Chase and Geiser and Harrison Smith up to the Tesla thing when there was a bomb there yesterday.
I didn't announce when they went because I didn't want crazies coming after them.
They just went live from there.
But I mean, other than not announcing something for security until it's already done, everything is here on air.
That's the superpower.
It's called straight shooting.
See, I'm not trying to use deception.
My motto is, you know, not by deception you will conquer, like the Maasai.
And Pompeo, you know, saying, oh yeah, well they turned us to lie and cheat and steal the CIA.
Ha ha ha.
So, truth and light and openness is the power.
Not You guys have chosen to creep around and lie and steal and do all that.
That's your wheelhouse, not mine.
And so...
And my word.
That's very important to me.
But this stuff's now crossed into the criminal zone.
So I'll meet with globalists and have quite a few times off record as long as nothing criminal's proposed.
But now you just noticed I started coming out and talking about the rich guy trying to buy me off, and now he knows he's involved in all this.
So, I mean, within the next 48 hours, I'm just going to bring all this stuff out.
Because it crossed the line now.
I have enough proof.
And it's just all tied together.
And we're going to release a lot of stuff.
So get ready.
So, and I've told these people this.
We know you'll have off-record meetings.
I'm like, as long as you don't commit crimes.
Or ask me to be involved.
It's like in the Sandy Hook mediation about a year before the fake trial in Connecticut.
I was already found guilty.
I'm up there with this federal judge in this tall building, you know, in Connecticut, Norm Pattis, Josh Koskoff, the head of Koskoff and Koskoff, Democrat Party saboteur group, and it's me.
And he just says, have you seen the Godfather movie?
Yeah, you know who the mafia is, right?
He goes, yeah, well, we're the mafia.
We run the state.
And so I'm going to leave here and talk to Norm outside, and he's going to talk to you.
And that's the way it is, because you'll never...
And I said, I already know your crooks.
He said, fine.
He goes out, they talk, and then in the car, Norm's like, yeah, they want you to stop talking about the Second Amendment.
And I said, let me guess.
And there's a larger list?
Yes, they'd like to meet with you.
And they said, you know, but you can't talk about this.
It's off record.
And then Texas did the same thing, the same one, Sue and Elon.
It's all the same group with Paul Weiss, the group Trump just sanctioned for lawfare.
Find them $40 million.
He shouldn't even let them back in there with their intel clearances.
It's all run by them and Hillary Clinton and all that.
And it came out they were behind it.
And Bloomberg put money in to do it as well.
They did fundraisers off my name saying I was harassing him to raise him more money to harass everybody else's free speech.
So it's an intel operation.
FBI is involved, DOJ, it's all come out in court.
We have more documents we haven't released yet.
We're going too soon.
But it's all coming together, so I just keep adding more to it because it's incredible.
Got a very clear picture now.
I mean, it's incredible what we got.
And this ties into the intel hearings.
I'm just explaining it.
And then later they call my lawyers in Texas in a joint conference and say it all again.
My lawyers are like, wait, this isn't off record?
This isn't a sealed deal?
So then my lawyers go, now you can talk about it now that they said mediation because they just said it.
And then they said in court later that they want me to, quote, agree not to talk about certain things.
And that doesn't just mean Sandy Hook that I barely or never talked about.
And they just made up stuff I did to them to play victim and raise money and then sue me and all the rest of it.
It's what they do.
It's PR.
It's psychological warfare.
So, and I've only told you a small percentage of it just because of the time.
It would take hours to even get into the basic details.
It's insane.
I've been living it.
So, instantly, with all the information of Jeff Goldberg, top spy, CIA, Mossad, in my view.
Definitely former, you know, prison deputy warden at the famous torture center.
That's when he was a young man.
I mean, yeah.
That's where he did his tours for the Israelis.
I mean, we're talking bad guy.
In my view.
Very arrogant.
Let's put his butcher up.
So, and right after he came here, I said, yeah, the massages came to visit me, the Jeff Goldberg guy.
I mean, I've said, I've talked, I've told the story probably 20 times over the years.
And so, he basically admitted, we've been trying to find out who you work for.
And I go, who?
And he goes, well, you know, I mean, Obama wants to know if you're dangerous or not.
He was like, you're not recording me, right?
I'm like, dude, obviously you're not here for an interview.
You said you were.
You just want to meet.
I was like, well, we could work with you.
We could be friends.
And Obama later sent a big famous reporter saying it was for another big publication.
They did publish that article.
And the guy got on his knees and said, Obama really loves you.
This was his last year of his administration, about a year and a half.
He really wants you to...
I mean, these people are crazy, okay?
Because they're so used to everybody selling out.
And I'm standing there like in Team America, and it was literally, the guy was licking his lips.
He wanted me to pull my dick out.
I mean, I'm not talking about Goldberg.
He's another guy.
These people are nuts.
people are nuts.
So, He didn't say that, but he's like, what do you want?
Well, anything you want.
Anything you want.
I'm just like, okay, well, you've got your interview now.
So, and I didn't take the offers, so you've seen what happens.
Kyle Serafin will be here later to tell you about the national security investigation on me as a terrorist and as a top national security threat.
I'll show you the FBI documents, but he's got even more.
Because he knows how to read them and what the codes say.
And unless you've been an FBI agent of his level, you wouldn't even know this stuff.
So, he's coming in third hour.
So, that's just the tip of the iceberg.
I have so much data.
So, instantly, you have the head of the NSA, Waltz, and others saying, I don't even know how he got in there.
He wasn't even...
If you don't think the CIA or the Mossad, and you have my administration, telling people...
That you need to use signal.
That's because it's Swiss cheese.
They control it.
And they want to watch all their agents and all their people communicating, just like William Benny, the head of the NSA, technical, the actual head of running it, not the political head of it, for many years.
Top mathematician, world-renowned, been on the show many times.
200 IQ.
He said, no, no, no, no.
In the late 90s, they built back doors into all the NSA systems for the private contractors and...
Politicians and others, when they'd get out of power, they could still go in and use it, and there'd be no record of them spying on everybody for espionage, for economic reasons, for personal reasons.
That's a true story where Snowden's boss was watching him over the laptop argue with his wife, have sex with his wife, and then he goes in to meet with the big NSA-CIA controller, because they're all in multiple agencies at that level.
And he's like, you know, I noticed your wife was saying this.
He went, oh my God, you're watching and listening.
And he's like, yes, I'm recording it.
So, they're perverts, people.
Deranged lunatics.
And Snowden was like, that's it.
You're watching me screw my wife.
You're listening to our arguments.
Her talk about her mother.
So... That's what this is all about, is this ruling class of bureaucrats and their financial controllers doing whatever they want.
Jeffrey Epstein Island and all that's the tip of the iceberg, literally.
So, Trump just knows to cut it off so it doesn't become a scandal.
He's smart in this area where they're not sure what went on, so they say something that isn't right.
Now they say they've lied, and now it's a new Watergate thing.
You just need to say, hey, that's a whole other area how to respond to this.
Hey, General Milley called up the top Chinese general and gave him the battle plans.
Totally illegal.
Treason. It's purposeful to, quote, accidentally send a reporter your group chat about, yeah, we're about to hit him in one hour.
Been hitting him for weeks before that, just a bigger hit.
It's up to the reporter, supposedly a good American.
Plus, we're fighting for his precious homeland and his folks, Israel.
But that's how Israel treats us.
That's how Jeff Goldberg treats us.
When we're paying for it all and doing it all constantly, you know, go ahead and just stab America in the back again.
That's what Jeff Goldberg does.
You know, when Trump had his election stolen from him, he tried to call Netanyahu for a week.
Netanyahu wouldn't even call Trump back, and he congratulated Joe Biden.
And I'm not into bashing Israel for Israel's sake.
I bash Israel on real things Israel does.
It's like I bash any other corrupt government.
But they're not a sacred cow that's above reproach.
But they're also not my total focus, like so many mental patients, that are pro-Israel, all I do is talk about Israel, anti-Israel, all I do, it's a religion, it's sick.
The religion of worshipping Israel or hating Israel, by the Christian Zionists and the weird Nazis and just all of it, it's disgusting.
And then Israel and the different groups there playing it off, loving to be persecuted, to play the victim, funding white supremacist groups to get more donations.
Israel, after its founding, did bombings all the Middle East, all over Europe, all over Spain, and would blame it on other groups to make Jews move to Israel.
They founded Hamas.
They stood down on October 7th.
But everybody just takes it from a one-dimensional view, whether they're for the Palestinians or whether they're for Israel.
Meanwhile, the globalists are funding both sides.
But it's too easy to be tribal and pick a side when it's not even your tribal fight, and that's only one level.
I want people to have a big picture, but they can't.
It's a mental illness on all sides.
So we're going to go to break here in a few minutes, and I'm going to go through the clips, the proof, the evidence, all of it.
What does the great fake child sex trafficking epidemic, and you read this article a few years ago, all of it's been proven, all of it's true.
We had more kids caught by sex rings being raped in the news today.
By the police, by the Border Patrol, but oh, they're always writing articles that pedophilia is not a bad thing, and kids love it, and you know, love's love, but oh, there's no epidemic of it, it's not even happening, and it's literally the alumni of Jeffrey Epstein Island, Steve Jobs' wife, the whole group, Mossad, CIA, covering up the whole Epstein thing, this is the mothership.
The Atlantic, Jeffrey Goldberg, all of them.
And they're so proud of themselves.
So the Atlantic is the nexus between Mossad, CIA, MI6 heavily involved, but mainly Mossad, CIA.
And it basically, I mean, it's basically published out of Little St. John's Island.
I mean, it is.
I mean, there's hundreds of photos of all of them there, constantly.
I mean, look at this before I go to break.
Here is Laureen Jobs.
Here's Steve Jobs' wife.
There she is at the island.
With Ghislaine Maxwell, whose dad was the main sex trafficker from Assad and MI6, on record.
And this is what they did.
And then she funds transgenderism programs for kids.
The targeting of kids, the curriculum to brainwash the kids, cut them off from their parents, and then take them.
She funds legislation in states where they take kids away as young as seven and put them in foster homes.
I mean, this woman literally wants to hurt children.
They literally want the energy of hurting children.
It's what demons want.
I know she's been behind some of the financing, reportedly.
The attacks on me.
Of course she wants to get me, because I know who she is.
I see you, witch.
I know who you are, witch.
Who's losing which?
You are!
You! Not us!
We're growing stronger.
You're growing weaker.
So, the Trump administration needs to come out politically nonviolently, guns a-blazin', on Epstein, on Goldberg, Mossad, MI6, all the fakeness I've always put out before.
Did Mossad or a leftist group at the CIA get into that signal that Obama slash Biden told everybody to use?
Is this a Vault 7 plant?
Because, I mean, even Waltz is saying, I don't know.
I didn't put him in there.
Trump said, well, just own up to it.
Let's move past it.
Yeah, that's the smart move if you don't know this.
Don't own up to something you didn't do.
I think they planted this.
Don't you?
We'll be right back.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen.
Here's the bottom line.
Not one of the national security heads of the NSA, the Defense Department, the Office of National Intelligence, none of them in this group chat on Signal at the U.S. government.
Orders them to use, that Biden ordered almost four years ago that's still being used and I've said they shouldn't use, has said that they included Jeffrey Goldberg, the Israeli, the editor of Atlantic, the beyond Epstein connected publication I'll get into in a moment.
So Trump just says, say it's a mistake.
You didn't give the secrets to China like Milley did deliberately.
This stuff happens.
Move on.
You've learned your lesson.
And, of course, there's a whole other fascinating area where you actually see a real administration working and debating and J.D. Vance disagreeing but saying, I'll follow orders.
That's what I signed up to do.
I mean, this is very refreshing, regardless of what you think about fighting the Houthis in Iran.
Well, I mean, they've been attacking our ships.
Here's the big takeaway.
Jeff Goldberg came to me 13, 14 years ago to look up the date.
I talked about this many times.
And he said it was an interview for Atlantic, and he was the editor there.
And I looked him up and knew he'd been, you know...
Deputy, you know, warden, high-level jail guard at the famous Israeli torture center, and I knew he was probably a Mossad operative, but I said, you can interview me.
Back then, I did interviews.
He said, I'm out here for an interview.
I know I told you that.
I'm here to find out who you work for.
And now we know Obama, right around that time, opened up a national security investigation onto me.
Gosh, I guess this is about...
Yeah, it's about 13 years ago.
Right around the same time, this big investigation that's now come out, partially declassified, will be covering with Carl Seraf and the famous FBI whistleblower here in studio who knows how to read these code documents.
A lot of it's coded.
You can tell a lot when you're an FBI agent at that level that worked on these type of cases.
He's in here in the third hour, an hour and a half from now.
So, Trump is saying, hey, just own it even though you're saying you didn't do this.
Ratcliffe, the NSA, had initiated the conversation.
So Trump's saying, hey, you just take the blame.
Waltz is, they're telling take the blame.
And I don't see it that way.
I mean, I believe them.
These people aren't liars.
They understand that's how you get in trouble.
And so if they're telling Waltz that he needs to take the blame, but he's saying, I didn't include Jeffrey Goldberg in this, then I believe that.
And when you've got a long history under Vault 7 and Snowden releasing the documents where the CIA can go into any of these text apps, Your email, anything, and plant whatever they want, spoof, pretend that they're you.
Just like these swatters can call into 911 and use somebody else's phone number, and it's untraceable for most, even governments, to find.
Because they bounce it off number after number after number.
So, this is how they're going to try to bring down the Trump administration.
Crash the economy.
Flood the borders continually.
Trump blocks it.
Have the illegal aliens protest.
A bunch of them get killed.
In a false flag.
Blame it on Trump.
Have a civil uprising.
Those are some of the other ways.
But the big one is the same thing they did eight years ago was claim that Trump's a Russian agent or a Chinese agent.
Elon's a Chinese agent.
Elon got secret briefings.
No, he didn't.
And then get into the computer systems and spoof leaks that didn't happen.
And that's one of the biggest ways to get rid of intel chiefs or people in intel that are patriots is to say that they're representing a foreign government they're not supposed to be and not declaring it.
Like General Flynn.
Or, oh, they have child porn on their computer.
Like they did With the CBS news reporter's husband and the FBI got caught and admitted they tried to plant it on him to make Cheryl Atkinson shut up about investigating national security issues.
So they're saying that Wall's future in doubt following accidental war plan leak.
And look who it got leaked to.
Jeffrey Goldberg.
And then you again, another example, the Australian government has been trying to pass a regulation without having a vote.
Where, just pull it up.
Australian government wants to be able to break into your social media and pose as you and commit crimes in your name.
Set you up.
Now the British government wants the code keys not just for their MI6 to Apple, which they have, but they want the general codes for all their police and everybody.
To be able to not just track you and get into your phone and read everything, but also set you up and frame you.
So, this is what they're doing.
It's all exposed in Vault 7. Just look up Edward Snowden.
Edward Snowden Vault 7. And one section of it in documents is how the CIA, all over the world, this was over a decade ago, breaking into people's computers, industrially, corporations, governments, individuals, Americans.
And misrepresenting, planting things, stealing data, using it to financially destroy people.
That's what Vault 7 is all about.
So when Tulsi Gabbards and others say, and Waltz says, we don't know anything about this.
We didn't include him.
He's not involved in this.
I believe them.
Now there it is, Vault 7, CIA hacking tools revealed.
And then it's their favorite thing.
Huge sections are dedicated to breaking in to people's computers and posing as them.
So... I understand Trump's angle here of, hey, if you say you don't know that you did it, or you don't, and you say you didn't do it, they're just going to turn it into a giant investigation and then try to misrepresent that somebody did add him accidentally and that you've lied, and then they're going to be able to, you know, have this be ongoing.
No, just say, okay, all right, lesson learned, move on.
Americans don't care about that.
Americans read.
I mean, I was fascinated last night reading these texts.
Sounds like a really group of hardworking professional people that really care and are debating each other instead of some globalist gives the order and then they just do it.
So, and look, it's already backfiring on them.
Trump stands by National Security Advisor Mike Walls despite disclosing military plans saying he's learned a lesson.
Trump said he's learned a lesson.
But Mike Walls is still saying, I don't know how Jeff Goldberg got in there.
I've gone in and looked at it.
He's not linked there.
Well, I bet Jeff Goldberg just has no idea.
Because, I mean, sarcastic, because there are massive numbers of globalist operatives in the intelligence contracting companies that have 80% of the operators who have just as much national security clearance.
As somebody, quote, inside the CIA, they put the veterans in the Booz Allen groups and all of that.
That's the whole point of the CIA, is most of them aren't actually agents, but they're operatives.
And usually their bosses are operatives.
So you've got it backwards.
It's not the CIA giving the orders.
It's the permanent corporate intelligence agency system.
Giving the minions, the errand boys and girls, the directives.
And then they send them out with the Green Berets on dangerous missions and things that are a very small percentage of what they do.
Most of it's infiltrating media, infiltrating academia, infiltrating banks, infiltrating culture.
And then Hollywood gives you the image of the Green Berets and the cool young woman who's their boss deciding who gets grabbed, who gets killed, who gets tortured.
So, what you see on television versus how this actually works is completely different.
So, the main suspect with the history we have, what we know, what Goldberg's history is, if they were going to have the Mossad or the CIA or both, because the high-level ones are all three, Mossad, MI6, CIA.
I mean, the FBI, CIA guy that...
Got caught on a hidden camera admitting that the FBI and CIA ran the operations and the fake lawsuits against me.
He was FBI and CIA.
The guy that got caught in the other pedo sting, just pedo stings catch these guys, or pedo investigations.
The other guy that was running the coup operation as a liaison from the civilian and Pentagon side, he was FBI, CIA, and contractor.
Top staffer of Hillary Clinton.
And then you'll have other FBI agents.
People go, well, he's not that senior.
Or, oh, he's not, you know.
That's because he doesn't work around you because he is senior in the outside group you're not part of.
So, that's how this is done.
The reason I keep coming into the story is they had such an industrial-scale attack on Infowars that a lot of their people have been caught up in a lot of declassifications and a lot of leaks.
And again, I told you it's the big Clinton law firm running all this against me.
Trump just sanctioned them.
Paul Weiss has been the quarterback group advising all the law firms against me.
Told you that years ago.
There it is in the news now.
And why do they have a national security clearance?
That Trump was taking if they didn't pay a $40 million fine.
They don't care.
The globalists just give more money.
No, Trump should continue with their clearance pull.
And we'll talk to Trump about that.
But the point is, is that you don't think of a law firm as spies.
No, that's the real spies.
So you think of James Bond or, you know, somebody, or these shows about CIA agents.
It's all crap.
Maybe 2% of the CIA is involved killing people and, you know, poisoning people or the rest of it.
Then maybe 5% or so dead reckoning is involved in regular sex operations with women and men trying to get intel and compromise people.
And another 5% or so are pedophile operators, and that's come out all over the place that they run pedophile rings.
And then just most of it is just academia and paying people off in bags of cash and business deals and bribery.
Eighty-something percent is just bribery and corruption and espionage.
And even if you're not even fighting the globalists but you're not part of them, they're just there to steal your company's secrets, make you sell to them.
If that doesn't work, they'll send in the SEC or other federal agency to indict your ass for nothing.
That's all it is.
Pirates. And it's all modeled after OSS, British intelligence, that were on the British ships around the world who were in plain clothes as merchants and people and doctors and missionaries.
And they would get off and then go do the dirty work, the real spies.
The real spies are preachers and doctors and nice old ladies nowadays.
I mean, when Andrew Jackson sent my ancestors into Texas and they recruited Travis to Foment things took them about seven years.
They did it.
They were Baptist preachers.
That's always work.
So that's the real world, people.
And Goldberg magically Gets all this.
Now, if I didn't know this was coming, I mean, I've been predicting they would do little fake intel leaks and try to create a scandal like this, but that's their standard trade.
But if somebody posed to me, hey, they're going to do a Vault 7 style spoofing, they're going to go into a signal or an email or something, and then they're going to add other people onto the email or signal to create a national security leak scandal to strike back at Trump.
Who do you think they'll claim is the person that's accidentally added to the signal or email?
And I would sit back and the old days would be like Bob Woodward, Naval Intelligence.
But nowadays, I would say Jeff Goldberg.
I mean, I've talked about him being a master spy here probably 30, 40 times.
Most of you have heard me talk about him before.
You just type in Alex Jones, Jeff Goldberg, you'll find 15, 13 years ago, 10 years ago, 5 years ago, a year ago, talking about him.
If you're a real listener, you've heard about Jeff Goldberg here, who just told me he was basically a spy.
I said, well, who do you work for?
Well, I work for Obama and some other people, and we want to know how dangerous you are.
Who do you work for?
How do you know all this stuff?
Who trains you?
And I said, I'm living the real world.
I study history.
He's like, that's not what we hear.
And I'm like, yeah, people will say, it's a secret.
Joe just admitted his family.
It's from my show that people know that quite a bit of my family, back in the Humet era, when it wasn't Signals, a big recruiting ground was Texas, and if you were high grades and tough and loyal, they got recruited into all sorts of stuff, fighting the Russians and all the rest of it, Latin America, you name it.
And then my family, people that were in it, told me how evil the government was when I was a little kid, and they got out of it.
But they also go into the file and they go, because it's not your regular, you know, spies that are, you know, doing what these little cowards do.
No, it was, you know, doing the real stuff and the real operations and, you know, killing people too.
So they go, oh my God, who's this guy worked for?
My family never taught me any of that stuff.
I was interested in it, so I went and I researched it all.
I didn't really know why I was attracted to it when I was a kid.
It was because I was around some of it.
And they weren't telling me anything until people start dying and stuff they tell you about it.
And it's not that big a deal.
I mean, anybody out there that's got family that's an army officer that's actually done real stuff around the world, they work for the CIA.
Just so you know.
If you've got a family member that's an officer in special operations, It's a total liaison.
That's what it is, okay?
So, you got family that's an army officer that does intelligence.
It's all there.
And it's not like some fancy, cool thing.
The CIA is gigantic.
Absolutely gigantic.
Now, if you've got enlisted, file members of special operations, they don't do CIA assassins.
That's what officers, that's how that works, because they're commissioned.
So, look.
The point is, I've forgotten more than most people know.
And most of the people in government that are even in the spy stuff are just globalist, pedophile candy asses that just act powerful and strut around in trench coats.
Okay? Because since the mid-90s, all of the intelligence signals came in, and they've been mainly relying on digital stuff, just like, not just to spy, but to also sabotage, plant.
I mean, you see the power of it.
I mean, look, I love what the Trump administration is doing.
But that's a whole other scandal here I'll get to next hour.
The fact that they are using Signal for Trump's cabinet to communicate, don't you know the entire globalist system is watching you?
MI6 on record has all the keys.
The EU, NATO, the left.
You think you stripped all these Democrats of their national security clearances?
But now you're on Signal that's, quote, private?
That Biden told everybody to use?
You're using what they said to use?
you.
You should all be meeting in person in a situation room when you're going to launch a war.
I mean, if you want to know what the misstep is, what the scandal is, It's that they're using signal so that MI6 and Mossad and the CIA can go in and use AI to get into the back door and then add somebody in and then add it to the chain.
That is so easy for even regular hackers.
The regular hackers now get in businesses, emails.
Divert the emails, wait for a wire to come through, sometimes months or years, and then cut off the person's email so they don't see it.
Take the real email from the person sending the wire.
Tell them, send the wire here.
They'll even say, call me.
They'll spoof the number, hijack the number.
The person calls, it sounds just like them.
They're using AI, and they'll get tens of millions of dollars wired and just disappears.
Now, that's the more sophisticated ones.
People are phishing your emails.
They're doing it all.
That's what private individuals are able to do.
So, you've got all these people, Walls and Hanks, saying we didn't add him.
But to create plausible liability, I bet you Walls is the only one of the group that ever talked to Goldberg.
I bet he has talked to him.
I bet he's exchanged emails or communications.
So then they did identify who they've got.
He's been talking to him.
We're going to get in there before our next war operation.
Then we'll send it to...
Goldberg. Goldberg knows what's going on, but doesn't even have to be told.
He just says, oh, I got this.
What do we do with this?
Publishes it immediately.
The next morning, they already have hearings.
You see how this works?
unidentified
So, yeah.
alex jones
I mean, I'm sure of it.
So, that's why you tune in.
That's why we're here.
Is the rest of the story.
Not all this amateur BS garbage, but the real world.
Now, the right answer, and I'll talk about this when we come back, is Trump coming out and saying, oh, Jeff Goldberg, oh, the Atlantic Monthly, oh, Steve Jobs' wife, oh, the big Jeffrey Epstein alumni club, oh, the same guy that put out all these fake stories.
Oh, I wonder if somebody spoofed that signal.
We're not going to use signal anymore.
Biden thing, ordering people to use it.
And I'll get to all that.
We've got clips of that being embedded coming up.
And then put it on them.
That's what needs to happen.
Not just, quote, okay, well, they say they didn't do it, but let's just own up to it and move on.
Yeah, that sounds like the best default.
It's not.
Attack. Because if there was a 20% chance this is the case, And it's like a 95 in my view.
Then you've got to go after it.
And they've got to look for evidence.
Really good forensics tech people can see the pings coming in and see where they got in.
And then you just publish that.
And it's going to go right back to 10 Downing Street because that's running the whole operation right now.
That's the Clearinghouse Command Base.
People go, no, it's Israel, only Israel.
It's like in World War II, you got the allies all there in London running the ally deal.
I'm saying, yeah, Mossad's heavily involved.
The point is, they have command bases.
It's being run out of London.
That's come out.
The attacks on Trump, Musk, myself, all of you, it's run by London.
They're the ones running the northern group, trying to reconstitute NATO, neo-NATO.
It's London.
That's where it's run out of.
Just like the Mossad's child pedo ring when Maxwell's dad was out of London.
Yeah, he was Mossad running out of London.
All right, we're going to go to break.
When we come back, I'm going to get into the pedo connections and go through all that and play the clips of them admitting, well, actually, the orders were ordered everybody to use Signal.
What are they doing on Signal?
Signal? Oh, actually, they're ordered to do it.
Oh, and now it's got back doors, and oh, look what just happened.
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All right, some stations don't carry this first five, so I want to just hit some of the news.
It's still important, but I'm going to finish up with these hearings.
I've got a bunch of the clubs.
I've got a lot of the news I want to hit.
Huge developments on every front.
The economy, 23andMe.
Judge Bossenberg responds to Trump DOJ's invocation of state secrets privilege, saying, you don't get to have our secret intel.
Oh, God, they gave some people something on Signal, supposedly, but all these federal rogue judges...
Operating outside their jurisdiction in violation of the Constitution, they can get out of everything.
There is so much.
We also got crazy Congresswoman Crockett assaulting a reporter today.
It's all coming up.
But I want to talk about Atlantic Monthly and the Epstein-Massad MI6 CIA operation coming up next segment and go through some of these clips of the ongoing hearings that are all about, oh...
Elon's a Chinese agent.
No proof.
Fake stories.
Oh, why are we helping the Russians and not our allies that want to continue the start of the war?
It's all just a big grandstanding garbage, and the public doesn't like it.
The public wants prosperity.
The public wants to end the war.
The public doesn't want to fund this insanity.
And it's just more of the same.
But I have told you they're going to get into the computer systems.
They're going to do all sorts of fake leaks and real leaks.
They're going to blame people that are innocent because they're having their national security connections cut off, but they got back doors and signal on record.
At one point, Jeffrey Goldberg was perhaps the most famous for writing piece after fake piece in The New Yorker about how Saddam Hussein was aiding and abetting Osama bin Laden to attack America on 9-11.
His discredited reporting was quoted by Dick Cheney on Sunday shows helping lead us.
Headlong into the dumbest wars in American history.
Did Jeffrey Goldberg get fired or shamed or screwing up?
Nope. He eventually became the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic.
I got a long list of the lies and disinfo he's done since then against the Trump administration.
Biden administration sent cartels signal to help win elections.
Texas AG.
Yeah, print me that.
I forgot about that.
So, Biden says you signal.
What is the Trump administration doing that?
I mean, Kash Patel was asked about it and said he wasn't involved in any other communications of secret stuff with Signal.
I mean, that is just dumb.
I mean, if you want the Democrats and MI6 and Israel and everybody else to know what you're doing in NATO and Zelensky, use Signal.
That is a complete Giant scandal in and of itself.
And it gives me a headache.
Absolutely disgusting.
Well, they want us off the air because we give people 35,000 foot view.
We're going to take the last hour, cut the ads out, post it to X. It's up to you to share it.
I just got to think about a headline that fits this insanity.
Breaking. Breaking all evidence points towards Trump's war cabinet being set up with planted evidence of leaks on Signal.
Alright, let me recap what I covered in the first hour, then I'm going to finish up with other key areas I haven't gotten into about Jeffrey Epstein, Mossad, CIA, MI6.
Not connections, that's what the Atlantic Monthly is.
Jeffrey Goldberg, Mossad, connections, I mean, It's like saying avocados are connected to avocados.
It's just ridiculous.
So, recapping here, there's a lot of facets to this.
You want to apportion some blame to the Trump administration and actually have a real learning experience out of this, like Trump has said, is what the hell are you doing, Trump administration?
Using signal that the Biden administration told all the federal employees and intel people in the cabinet to use because they've got their private globalist intel spying on all of that with back doors into it, well known. And then you've got the Biden administration helping drug cartels in Mexico finance elections.
The Texas AG expose.
We put that on screen.
I mean, that's the globalist clearinghouse.
Of the private, corporate, governmental intelligence agencies.
And then all these people tell me, oh, signal's the best.
That's what the U.S. government says use.
That's because they want to know everything you're doing.
The criminals embedded in the deep state.
It's harder for them to get into the NSA systems, but they got back doors there.
But now that they're out of office and Trump's been cutting out their security clearances and plugging up holes in the NSA that William Benny, the technical head of the NSA, exposed on this show a decade ago and then five years ago and then three years ago, they want you on signal so the deep state can spy on you and try to continue being dug in and stay in powers.
We'll go back to that on screen in a moment.
The real problem is stop using signal.
Number two, you've got Waltz and Hegseth and all of them saying, we didn't add Jeff Goldberg onto the list.
We don't know.
Even if that's him, these are initials.
How did he get this?
He's not even involved in this.
And Trump's like, well, just say you did it.
Because if you say you did, it just becomes more of an investigation, and it's a mistake.
It's not like you called the Chinese head of the military and gave them our battle plans like Milley did, actual open treason.
Just move on from it.
And that would make sense if they actually, somebody did it, but I believe them that they didn't do it.
That's Vault 7. I'm not saying it's just the CIA, but we know from Vault 7, their favorite thing is to go spoof and tell people they don't like, put fake leaks.
In their email or on their chats, on Signal, things like that.
Anything they want.
And then they're able to frame you, plant child porn on you, strip your national security clearance, whatever they want.
So that's how they operate.
So then there's that whole area that, to me, all the evidence points towards spoofing and this being a frame-up.
Because they're all still saying no.
But Trump's like, well, just don't up to it, move on.
you.
But now the reporting on Tuesday, March 13th, Goldberg received a notification from Mike Waltz asking him if he wanted to join the Houthi PC small group on Signal.
A subsequent message again from Waltz read, team establishing a principles group coordination on Houthis, particularly over the next 72 hours.
Yeah.
Now, was that somebody spoofing into the account?
And then they can block it out where the other person can't see?
I don't know.
Is Walls telling the truth?
But that's how this works.
I know people personally, just a few weeks ago in business, we have a local business, and they've been doing business with another vendor for years, and then somebody hacked into their Microsoft business administrator, blocked all the emails from the vendor, Started talking to them.
They'd been there, obviously, for years.
And then when the wire came, said, oh, change it to this.
This is the new wire.
And then they wired it to them, and then it disappeared.
I mean, that's just regular hackers doing that.
So when this stuff's going on, you have to be aware of that.
And again, because the mirror tabloid says that, doesn't mean it's true.
But the larger area to look at is who is the Atlantic?
For decades, it's been the mouthpiece of a clearinghouse of globalist bureaucrats and corporate leaders, MI6, Mossad, CIA.
But particularly Mossad and CIA and Jeffrey Epstein was best friends with the owners and the leaders of it and with the main owner, Steve Jobs, widow.
We'll put her on screen in a little while, and they have countless articles saying, oh, you know, these conservatives worried about kids being sexualized, don't worry, it's no big deal, and headlines like this.
The great fake child sex trafficking epidemic.
We'll get into that actual sickening article in a moment.
But here's the clip.
The Biden administration, and this is on record, Authorized signal as a means of communication that was consistent with presidential record-keeping requirements for his administration that continued into the Trump administration.
Here's Senator Cotton talking about it.
Intelligence community, you signal.
They have communication all the time.
Is that not correct?
tom cotton
Lawrence, that is correct.
In fact, I bet a bunch of those senators that you see at the hearing today are using signal as well to speak to each other or to speak to their aides.
And it is my understanding that the Biden administration authorized Signal as a means of communication that was consistent with presidential record-keeping requirements for its administration, and that continued into the Trump administration.
It's simply another messaging app, like the iMessage app on your iPhone or email servers, that every administration has set up in which senior administration officials can communicate with each other.
alex jones
Oh, and then magically Jeff Goldberg gets some information.
Milley held secret calls with China's top military brass.
Others says Trump pushed election lies.
There's the court media spinning it like it's good.
Illegally calling a top general and giving him battle plans.
And saying, I'm in control, not Trump.
Treason. Milley stands by communications with China amid backlash sparked by new book revelations.
And he owned up to it.
He said, yeah, I'm...
Told them I was in charge on Trump.
Jeffrey Goldberg is a well-known for his sensationalist spin.
Here are some of the facts about his latest story.
No war plans were discussed.
No classified material was sent in the thread.
The White House Council Office has provided guidance on the number of different platforms for President Trump's top officials and committee to communicate as safely and effectively as possible.
As the National Security Council stated, the White House is looking into how Goldberg's number was inadvertently added to the threat.
All you've got to do is add the number, folks.
Thanks to the strong and decisive leadership of President Trump and everyone in the group, the Houthi strikes were successful and effective.
Terrorists were killed, and that's what matters most to President Trump.
Yeah, what do we have in the first Trump administration?
Every time he was hitting somebody that was really CIA-backed, they got word before and weren't there, and Trump's talked about that.
Trump, in speculation about Yemen war plans in group chat, defends Mike Walls, says he has learned a lesson.
So Trump's just saying, hey, just own it, whatever really happened, we'll move on.
Probably smart, because the public really can't grasp a lot of this stuff.
Is this the end for NSA Mike Walls, who invited far-left media hack into private White House Signal Group?
But we didn't even know that really happened.
Axios says he may weather the storm.
Trump stands by Walls.
Now here's Jeff Goldberg.
Did he get invited to another group and get added to that?
Did it happen by accident?
I don't think so.
Look at who it is, folks.
If I had to pick somebody, if they were going to do a fake leak and a frame-up, I would pick this guy.
I've talked about him a lot.
Jeffrey Goldberg.
I'm sure he doesn't know, though.
Jeff Goldberg, journalist who knew about U.S. war plans in advance.
And most journalists got something like that.
They'd say, oh, this is an accident.
Oh, thanks for the sword.
Oh, but he has to go tell everybody even if what he's saying is true.
Arrogant to the maximum.
Top U.S. generals secretly called China were fears Trump could spark war.
When Trump never even said anything about war with China, they were still in the election.
So now look at this sickening evil.
The great fake child trafficking epidemic.
The Atlantic.
Didn't age well.
This was four years ago.
Or about three and a half years ago.
And here is the actual article.
And it just goes through saying there's no kids getting kidnapped.
Nothing's happening.
It's all a right-wing lie.
Yeah, there's not 350,000 of them admittedly smuggled in by Biden that disappeared, been in sex slavery, even the New York Times admits.
No, no, no.
This suddenly ubiquitous Save the Children post created the illusion of an organic movement rising from up to confront a massive social problem.
Oh, but there's not a sexualization of kids.
There's no transgender movement.
There's no pedo stuff being taught in schools.
None of that's true.
It just goes on and on.
You know how they used to have kids on the milk cartons?
One mother told me, that wouldn't even be possible now.
There's not enough milk cartons.
It's actually true.
You want to put like a few kids a month on all of them so you can actually get it out to people.
You can't put it.
There's millions, over a million kids a year missing.
And some just run away, but a lot of them end up in slavery.
And like every day I see five, six articles not even looking like this one.
But the Atlantic, The big Jeffrey Epstein alumni.
No, no.
There's no problem.
Look at this.
Kansas trooper rescues six-year-old kidnap victim at a traffic stop.
The Kansas Highway Patrol trooper rescued the six-year-old girl missing for a month after pulling over an SUV.
She was grabbed out of her backyard.
One man had an out-of-state warrant for kidnapping.
Oh, really?
The other had a history including homicide.
The girl, Coach Deliah, eventually told the trooper her real name.
She was safely recovered and unharmed.
Both men in their 60s were taken into custody.
Oh, but I mean, you just heard The Atlantic say that none of that's happening.
It's just made up.
There's nothing.
And look, here she is, Steve Jobs' widow, Laureen Jobs, with Ghislaine Maxwell.
She went to the island reportedly over a hundred times.
Best friends.
Oh, here they are.
Best buddies.
Wonder what they're up to.
Sick people.
Evil people.
But don't worry.
They've indicted and all the rest of it.
Now it's been dropped.
The New York mayor, who's a bad guy, but he even said, look, I'm all for illegals coming and everything, but not the sex trafficking of kids, and I'm going to help.
And he said, I've done this for four years.
He said, I'm trying to save kids, and Trump wants to do it too.
Well, Hochul, the main moves to find missing kids, by the way, and the biggest group, I think, is in Chicago and New York.
Well, here it is.
New York Governor Kathy Hochul confirms that New York State will not be cooperating with ICE, calling all countries that do, or all counties that do, renegade.
So if a county helps find kidnapped kids, human traffickers that are doing it, She says they're renegade.
She's ordering them not to help ICE, who's first targeting not just illegal aliens that are criminals to be here.
No. Hardened human traffickers, pedophiles, you name it.
And you see the cases every day in Denver, in Chicago, in L.A., in Seattle, in Portland, in Austin, in Houston.
Texas is just as bad.
We're almost blue in the city.
We're all blue.
And they just release pedophiles.
I've got cases right here where you've got somebody raping a baby and they get two months.
I mean, it is.
And the same thing in the UK.
Rape a baby?
No jail time.
Pray outside an abortion clinic?
Two years in jail.
I've got the articles.
I'll show them to you.
So, and Cure Starmer ran all that for 15 years as the great high protector of pedophiles.
Epstein is just a window into all of this.
And now Pam Bondi goes on TV and says, yeah, you know, we raided the New York offices of the feds, of the FBI that wouldn't release and was hiding Epstein information.
We got truckloads.
It's hundreds of new child victims we've identified.
And now we're going out and doing the interviews.
The investigation takes time, but it's coming out soon.
And anybody that knows how that works, they're moving quickly.
And they got set up with fake, with old documents, not fake.
And she said it right.
She goes, hey, I just got these.
I'm told most of this is old in the cover sheet.
And I'm going to raid the New York offices if the stuff's not here by tomorrow night.
And they didn't give it up, so she raided them the next morning.
She didn't even wait for them to refuse.
And now they got it.
And now they're on TV saying, we got it.
Hundreds of more victims.
We're protecting them and the witnesses and doing the interviews because you got to go get the witnesses, you know, the butler, the maid, the masseuse, people that helped Epstein or like 20-year-old women that were kidnapped in Europe.
We know their names.
Eight years old, sold by the family for a million bucks to Epstein.
Now she's 20. Now she's a pedophile controller.
We got their names.
They're going out to all those women and saying now's the time.
And they're getting the butlers and the yard people and the gardeners.
I mean, it's all happening.
And they got to send agents out and they got to do it.
And there's a directive.
It's the number one priority.
In the FBI is to get all the files and do all the interviews and deliver cases to the DOJ for indictment.
And now the best they got is, oh, Jeffrey Goldberg got added to this list magically.
Oh, God, look at this.
He's the editor of the Nexus Point.
And I knew this over a decade ago, but after Goldberg came here like 13 years ago, I looked at it more and I'm like, my God, it's like the head of the snake.
How many experts have I had on about this?
They put out the disinfo.
They put out the lie.
I mean, a good percentage of the time, there's other big bosses that put out the hoaxes.
New York Times, Financial Times, London, Wall Street Journal.
But, most of the time it's them.
Whatever the biggest, you want to hear what the New World Order wants, the globalists, the worst of the globalists.
Atlantic, the Atlantic, the Atlantic.
And then you look at it, it is a Jeffrey Epstein party.
And Bill Gates and all of them.
And then who's the editor?
Jeff Goldberg.
Goldberg.
Go on the attack, Trump!
Go on the attack, Stephen Miller!
The year only Epstein Connection is having him kicked out of Mar-a-Lago.
We're hitting on 16-year-olds.
Trying to recruit him.
The year only Epstein Connection is having him kicked out of Mar-a-Lago.
So, it is very important for everybody to understand this.
And Hochul says we're not going to help Tom Homan and Mayor Adams.
They said the main mission is find the kidnapped kids.
We're not helping you, and any county that helps find kidnapped kids and brings the smugglers to justice is rogue.
I will have you indicted.
You will not help find children.
Governor Pritzker and his old sickening, transgender, pedo-loving operation, they're like kingpins in it.
We're going to fight ICE when they come here, and the mayor, we're going to fight you.
They let convicted pedophiles and murderers out of jail and don't tell the feds they're letting them go.
So the feds stake out all the prisons and jails and are grabbing dozens in Chicago alone every day.
And you're like, I want more deportations!
I want more!
They closed most of the detention centers.
They reopened them.
They've got a huge hiring spree.
They've got to train people.
I mean, do you think Trump can just shit diamond cufflinks?
you.
Then he just snaps his fingers.
I know anybody that's even had a business with 10 employees understands what Trump's up against.
Anybody that's ever had one with 50 people or an operation?
Anybody that's ever, you know, it's hard to get stuff done.
And I'm not even here as an apologist.
When I see something Trump does I don't like, I go ape and you know it.
Just like with this red coat crap that I knew he was just patting him on the head, but still, that's an insult.
And I tore into his ass.
Because my integrity is number one.
But this, this, this, where is it?
Where is it?
If they launch these indictments too quickly, they'll fall apart.
And that's what the U.S. attorney out of New Jersey said.
She said, we got their ass, okay?
We got hundreds of victims.
We got names.
We got to find out who's guilty and who's innocent.
We're doing all the interviews.
It's the number one priority.
It's a huge job.
Just with the Epstein, we're on it.
You know, part of me wants them to still go after Epstein, but that's had so much time to cover up.
No, no, no.
It's the missing kids.
And when they're finding kids in slavery and sex slavery and even investigative journalists are doing it, it gets no corporate coverage when Anthony Rubin and all them find this incredible stuff themselves.
And they go to a house like, I am 12. They brought me here when I was 10. I have my baby coming.
The men come.
They make me be prostitute.
I was sold four times.
And she's saying it's Spanish.
It's like, yeah, okay, a million views on X. Not on Fox.
And they go to the next house.
I am nine.
The men rape me.
I mean, they're able to go into the house.
Laureen Powell Jobs is one of Kamala Harris' biggest bankrollers and closest friends.
Yeah, and she's one of the biggest bankrollers of the transgender pedo sexualization of kid crap and keeping pedo books in the elementary school libraries.
I mean, this woman is a demon.
They get power out of the hurting children.
Because you're not a Satanist, you don't understand it.
I've investigated it.
I've interviewed the top experts like Ted Gunnarsson, John DeCamp, and others, and then I've actually run into it in my life once.
And that I've not shared.
But And I mean, I'm talking about like, like real devil worshipers.
I mean, beautiful women.
And they are, they are devil worshipers.
They want to do one thing and that's her kids.
And then I talked to a lot of law enforcement people and they said, oh man, yeah, it's, it's, and that, you know, it's indescribable people, but I mean, it is so horrible.
It is so horrible.
I mean, you imagine some pot-bellied old evil pedophile wants to screw kids.
It's gross.
You can't even imagine it.
But imagine beautiful women that they don't want to rape kids.
I mean, they literally bite big-ass chunks out of these babies.
I mean, they rip their guts out.
Hillary Clinton's first job, her dad was the deputy mob boss under Daily in Chicago.
Look it up.
She was a fresh lawyer before she went into the Watergate cover-up and got kicked out because she got caught planning evidence.
Look that up.
She was sent for three years to Hot Springs and Little Rock was her beat for Dixie Mafia that worked for the Italian mob out of Chicago.
Look it up.
That was actually their main base because it was safer.
They didn't run out of Chicago.
They ran out of Little Rock and Hot Springs.
The general public doesn't know this, but you just type it in.
It's history books.
And there's recordings of this.
Her first job...
Was representing when the boys got out of control because they like to kidnap girls and rape them.
Eight, nine, ten-year-old girls that grab them off their bikes, take them, rape them three days in a barn.
One case took a...
I've interviewed the woman in the studio, cut her face all up, took a broomstick, shoved it all the way up in her uterus, tore her guts out, and Hillary went and covered it up and then later got recorded saying she had a lot of fun doing it.
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All right, I just met Kyle Serafin in person.
I've seen him for years, had him on the show, great FBI whistleblower.
He saw the documents that we got from the Trump administration like five weeks ago recently and was blown away by them because he knows how to read them, what the codes mean.
He knows so much more about what I believe is an illegal, long-term, I mean, they admit they did it, national security investigation to myself.
And now it makes sense why Jeff Goldberg came here 13 years ago, right when this started, and said, who do you work for?
I'm basically here from the Obama administration.
I didn't come here to interview you.
And I came on air the next day and said that's what he did.
People can find that interview or find me talk about that the next day.
And some of the crew is still here.
Rob Dew still was working here when that guy was here.
So, and of course, they found out I work for you.
I mean, I'm the boss.
But these people are all minions, so they cannot believe that there's other people out there that are on their own.
Now they see all the main talk show hosts, the most popular, quote, influencers, are all these thousands of independent people that just have brains and know how to research.
And it's good because I want lots of company.
I have a lot of general knowledge in basically everything, but some great specific detailed knowledge in some areas.
But I learn from all of you and I learn from our guests because there's a lot that I just have general knowledge of.
But most people don't have a general knowledge.
What I have is general overall knowledge and big picture stuff, how it connects and then patterns that form.
And that's what I do.
Bottom line, you've heard, you know, MS-13 has horrible rituals to be a made member, and then it's turned into devil worship the last 10 years.
Before that, it was still there, but now it's the main ritual.
Killing little kids, cutting pentagrams in them, biting chunks out of them.
And then you go into all these other groups, and they just get worse and worse initiation.
So much the Mexican cartels are into Satanism and human sacrifice.
I mean, that was even in Texas Monthly 35 years ago.
I remember reading it when I was in high school, and good God.
You know, about the cases of the Satan worship and the human sacrifices, and now it's just rampant.
And so when I talk about Epstein Island and weird cloning experiments and all the stuff I first talked about, people didn't believe that later came out, they, oh, he was interested in cloning.
No, he had a big medical facility in New Mexico.
And the same thing with Nygaard out in the Caribbean.
This is all mad scientist craziness.
And so I've never been there, but I've read about it.
It's, I guess, like going to the Netherlands to one of their big...
Red light districts, like in Copenhagen, or Denmark, all those places, but the Netherlands, and it's just anything you want, it's there.
Well, anything you can imagine, that's what they're doing.
And this stuff comes out in federal court documents, but you never see it on the news.
I mean, the snuff films, all of it, and you never see any of it because if they published it, they'd be publishing that.
Even if they find where the FBI got all the hard drives and VHS tapes and all the stuff going back decades with Epstein that they've hidden, that they admit they had and then disappeared, you can't publish that.
You can write a report on it.
And I've read the reports before on air, and I had stations 20-something years ago, I'd read one of these reports, they'd call them and say, we love Alex, but you can't read that on air.
Now, nowadays, people can hear this stuff because people understand it really goes on, but I mean...
If I just go back to memory, the stuff I've covered on air, it is so hellish that it feels like a crime to even tell it.
But you have to tell it because you've got to get it out.
But sex with 15- and 16-year-old girls is the gateway drug, okay?
And once they get you into it, it's more and more and more, and then they totally know they've got you.
You think MS-13-ass people kidnap 10-year-old girls and rape them and cut their heart out in a pentagram?
Just look it up.
How many cases of that?
Bukale talking about it?
You think they just magically invented that?
You know, the Mexican mafia right here in Texas.
You gotta go basically shoot an innocent person to be an inner member.
You gotta go to that liquor store and kill the owner.
We want to make sure you're controllable.
Well, there's no reason to kill him.
Well, then you're out of the gang.
You got an order.
You go kill that liquor store owner and you get that money.
But he'll give me the money.
That's not the point.
Kill him!
And that nowadays is the nice gangs.
You see?
Because they're getting you ready to do whatever they tell you and they want the total dirt on you.
So... I got a bunch of other news I want to hit ahead of Kyle Serafin coming in for an hour and then I'm going to fourth hour hit all the other news that's breaking and coming out because there's so much.
You got Crockett assaulting a reporter.
I mean, it's all insane.
But this is the best they got.
Trying to crash the stock market.
Trying to get a false flag against the illegal alien demonstration going.
Trying to have a civil war.
The Democrats are all saying that.
And try to escalate World War III.
That's not going too well for them.
And then, oh, intel leaks.
Oh, problems.
But you watch the hearings that are ongoing.
And it's...
Oh, you're incompetent.
You're leaking everything.
You're idiots.
Oh, you work for China.
Elon Musk.
Oh, why are you not teaching climate change in these 18 intelligence agencies?
I mean, it's just bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, which is great.
These are all 90-10, 80-20 issues.
So, it's just more of the same.
They've gone from Russiagate to Chinagate.
Oh, Elon's in a secret briefing with the Pentagon.
Never happened.
Wasn't set up.
A lie.
Look at these headlines.
Suddenly, and for no reason that I can understand, the United States is starting to act like our adversaries are our friends.
NATO started the war with Russia.
They've all bragged about it.
Victoria and Newland.
All of them.
Soros. I played clips again last week.
He said it dozens of times.
They're on their border.
They're starting war with them.
Biden was bombing inside Russia.
It's insane.
It's not acting like we're Russian agents to end this escalated war that endangers the whole planet.
What's this have to do with a quote intel leak?
Senator Mark Warner on the signal chat.
I think this is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless, and competent behavior, particularly towards classified information.
This is not a one-off, a first-time error.
Senator Angus King asked, Tulsi Gabbard, who decided climate change should be left off the report after it's been in the prior 11?
This is BS.
Oh, the trillion they get every few years with their green funding to then give it to themselves?
Tulsi Gabbard, there was no classified material that was shared in the signal chat.
Senator Mark Warner.
So then, if there was no classified material, share it with the committee.
Senator Chuck Schumer on the signal chat.
I am calling for the bipartisan investigation into the Senate of this mishandling.
Republicans must not.
Just shrug their shoulders and call this incident one of those learning moments.
They need to call Millian who bragged later when he was found out that he called the top Chinese generals to say Trump might strike you when Trump had said nothing.
But don't worry, we've got an administrative coup.
I'm in control of the nukes.
Treason! Drag them all in.
Go on the offense.
And again, How did he get added?
Did they spoof the things from Waltz?
Because he's saying he didn't do that.
It happens all the time.
Waltz 7, Senator Tom Cotton.
So, that protester was a Code Pink lunatic.
Code Pink is funded by Communist China as well.
Absolutely. And who is up to their eyeballs with the CHICOMs?
Almost everyone on the CHICOM payroll is a Democrat other than Mitch McConnell.
And his wife, her sister, who just got loose-ended in Texas down the road, driven into a pond in the middle of the night.
How's that doing?
On the Johnson Ranch.
Not the first person to get driven into the pond, I can tell you.
Kind of like the fictitious take them to the railroad station in Yellowstone.
So, would you want to see the clubs?
I just read what they say, basically.
But... They're all still saying that they didn't invite Goldberg in to that particular feed.
Well, one of the most common ways they do it with hackers, period, not just governments, is they can get into your computer, spoof you to other people, spoof your number, or they can do it from an outside computer, or they can spoof somebody else to you, and that's how they trick you.
I was talking a year ago to my family law lawyer, and he has a very prominent...
Former federal judge here in Texas whose son was getting a divorce.
That's how he knew him.
And the judge called him last year and said, yeah, I get a call.
It's my son's number.
It's my son's voice.
And he says, you know, I've been kidnapped.
I need this much money right now.
They're going to kill me in one hour.
Here's where you wire it.
And then he was smart enough to hang up, call, and get a hold of his son.
He said, no, that's not me.
But I mean...
Again, last year, I told you about it.
Tucker found out who it was.
Tucker's number starts calling.
I answer it.
It sounds like Tucker.
It's AI.
But I could tell the way it was waiting a second and that AI wasn't really good enough yet.
I could tell it was in a soundboard, though.
And then this comedian announces that night in Canada, oh, I bought Tucker's number and I spoofed it and I called Alex Jones.
And then as soon as I said, hey, this is AI, Tucker's fake voice starts going, I'm going to suck your titties.
I mean, I'm just telling you what it said.
And then Tucker found out who it was.
Their lawyers called and threatened him, and the guy didn't publish it.
You can go find it on his X account.
I forget his name.
My point is, if a comedian in Canada who's not even big can do that, can you imagine what the CIA or Mossad can do?
So it's a big deal.
Yeah, at least 50 U.S. government employees were targeted with phone spyware overseas.
And I'm telling you, the public doesn't understand how bad this is.
Well, some of it's come out.
If your daughter, particularly your son, has a TikTok account or a YouTube account, and even a few minutes of audio, they can do it.
They can grab that audio, program the AI, find out who your mother or dad is, and then they call up.
Happens all over the place.
There have been famous cases of it and says, Mommy, they've got me.
They're going to kill me.
You've got to wire $50,000 right now or I'm dead.
You've got three hours.
You've got three hours.
So, I'm not a tech guy.
I just read all the tech stuff.
There's so many ways to do this.
It gives me a headache.
So, you've got to look at that.
Especially, again, If I was a globalist and going to do this and set people up and plant stuff, I would, maybe Jeff Goldberg doesn't even know, but Jeff Goldberg, again, has been an Israeli intelligence operative.
He was the deputy head of the famous Israeli torture command base when he was a young man.
And then he's the editor of Atlantic Monthly, the Epstein-Massad mothership.
That liaisons with the CIA and MI6 and all of this crap.
So I've been ranting about this forever.
I've got so much more to get to.
It's all completely insane.
I mean, here's an example.
Before the Pentagon came out five years ago and said, do not do 23andMe and these other big DNA companies, if you're in the military, it's being sold to China.
I'd already said, because that's where these big companies fence the material.
That I was told by high-level people that they are sending all your information, not just to China, but to other big companies.
There's even been cases where you then, even before this, where you try to go get a gene therapy they don't have.
Oh, that blood sample you gave 25 years ago?
To get your blood tested?
You didn't read the fine print that they own your body now and all your special proteins and DNA.
Every DNA person is different, so each treatment's different.
And so this genetic treatment would have been $50,000.
Now it's $8 million.
There have been famous cases.
And so, remember the nose swab for the COVID testing?
Multiple big companies, it turned out, came out last year, just like I said, were selling the data.
It was all pure bull.
And they turned the PCR test to 35 or 40 times so that they could get the false positives they wanted.
That's why they said, test, test, test, Biden would say.
More testing, more testing.
Trump figured it out the last few months.
He goes, no more, cut money to testing.
Again, it's similar to this.
If you take a metal detector, aim it at the sky, set it to gold or silver, whatever you're looking for, turn up the amplifier, it will tell you there's gold in the air.
If there's not.
Just like you turn up a microphone amplifier, just the background resonance does it.
Okay? And the inventor of PCR explained that.
He said, if you think it's something and it's already spreading, You can set it low and maybe it indicates somebody's got it, but it's still hit or miss.
He goes, you turn it up past even a few percentage points, you will get a false positive every time.
Yep, testing firm can profit from sale of COVID swabs.
Company saves customer DNA for future use.
And it turned out a bunch of them are doing it.
And I told you that before the Pentagon did.
And why do I know?
In 1996, I broke that since 1974, strangely enough, the year I was born, 51 years ago, that blood test where they prick your baby's foot and put it on that paper swabs, and they tell you they're testing for blood disorders?
Well, why don't you test here locally?
No. It goes into a Pentagon and then UN Global DNA database.
And I learned it because a nurse called in from San Antonio that worked at Fort Sam Houston Medical Center.
And she said, we're taking and storing baby's blood, then it's sent off to Michigan and then off to the UN from there.
And they're patenting everybody's genome with it.
And I said, will you send me that information?
And she said, yeah, I'm in Austin next week.
And I told the producer, put her on hold, get her number.
And this old woman, wasn't that old, but you know, I was...
20-something years old, and she looked old like a 55-year-old woman, shows up, walks up, hands me a whole file.
Off of our reporting on that, lawsuits got filed in Texas, Illinois, and Minnesota, and they won cases over it, but they still do it.
But they paid people's families that went and filed suits over it.
So, that's why I'm like, I guarantee you they're taking your DNA with that baby.
And of course they were.
But oh, fact checkers would say, Jones has no proof of that.
I'm the fact checker.
Doesn't mean I'm always right, but I'm going to go ahead.
Just like I said four or five months ago, when Biden started bombing Russia directly, I said within a week, Putin and others are going to say we're in World War III.
Two days later, we're in World War III.
The Polish president, we're in World War III.
MI6, we're in World War III.
German, all of them, we're in World War III.
I remember like a fact checker.
No one has declared World War III.
Well, who is going to declare it?
They don't want you to know it.
You can determine and say this is now a conventional World War III.
It had all the ingredients.
So, when I'm telling you something that I believe that is not just my opinion, it is the best approximation of something.
It is my best approximation that this was a spoofing and a setup.
Bare minimum, he got in contact, was communicating on some signal communication with him.
You can say he accidentally sent it to him, but he says he doesn't see evidence of that.
Walls doesn't.
The NSA had.
And so, because it's Goldberg, then it...
That raises it to like 95% in my view this is a setup.
Alright, I'm done talking about that.
Good God.
I just hit the 23andMe.
I can talk hours about that.
That's just one other story here.
I have a tendency to not talk about our own personal persecution because I understand that if they can get rid of Trump or derail all this, we're all screwed anyways.
But at the same time, if the stuff that's been done to myself and my family and my crew and to your free speech rights and your right to hear this show, remember, you're the real target.
If this was happening to somebody else, I would be really harping on it.
And quite frankly, everybody's so used to me being persecuted, including myself, that instead of being a victim, I kind of just ignore it.
And now so much has come in, so much we've learned, not just this huge news we're about to break, with high-level, very respected FBI whistleblower has been totally vindicated, Kyle Serafin.
I'm going to reveal to him on air what we haven't released yet, and we'll put the documents out soon.
I mean, the Justice Department funding the lawsuits against me, not just admitting it in undercover tapes, not just admitting it on the stand, COVID money to do it.
And people are getting indicted for that, you know, like Cori Bush's husband.
And the FEMA guy out in California and a bunch of others.
And that's just one piece.
I mean, we've got so much now.
And see, I'm not even trained like an FBI agent.
In my own life, just following what they're doing to me, I can't even keep track of it.
That's just one investigation.
Can you imagine hundreds of new kids they found that are victims, Pam Bondi says, and they're trying to send agents out to interview them?
Five kids being raped on an island is a giant, huge fiasco.
And then it's in England and in France and New Mexico and New York and Florida.
And I'm not an apologist for this.
I just arrest them, arrest them, arrest them, arrest them.
We're in day 63, folks.
And you are going to see indictments.
That's why they tried to kill Trump.
That's why they're trying to sabotage everything.
That's why they're blowing up the Tesla attacks on the international.
Found firebombs out at the Tesla dealership where I was there 11 days ago, 10 days ago.
And I said, I bet you blow this up the next week.
Well, they certainly tried.
So, it's just total insanity.
And that's corruption's plan, is if it can just get it going widespread and there's so much of it, society just kind of gives up and it takes over.
And we're right on the edge of just everything being out of control forever.
And let me just do this now.
We'll have Kyle Serafin in here for as long as he wants to be.
And then I'll hit all this other news.
And I did it last night.
We shot like five reports after the show.
If there's 15 stories I need to cover, I'll be up here until midnight.
But our crew is so small.
Rob Dew's been working for a year nonstop.
Does a great job, but he got burnout.
And he told me about three weeks ago, he said, I'm going on a two-week ski vacation.
Totally deserve it.
He'll come back energized.
I'm like, go, go.
He's back now.
Just got back.
Well, he's landing right now.
He's the guy that was covering and trying to research all the DOJ CIA ops against us.
And it's just like a room of stuff.
It gives you a headache.
And there's always not leads, documents, more grants, more funding.
And then I'm with lawyers trying to pour over it and document it and write affidavits.
And the Justice Department wants this.
And I'm like, you've got to get every part of it right.
You've got to sign sworn statements.
So, I mean, I'm just getting...
Just a little bit of what the FBI has to deal with.
And I'm not defending the FBI at the top.
It's totally corrupt and all the rest of the stuff.
But folks, 300 and that was 50-something thousand in the Senate report.
And that's just who they know Biden ordered handover to NGOs.
And then 8,000 names got leaked to Anthony Rubin and his group.
It's only got four people.
They went to hundreds of houses and found kids were being raped and pregnant and sex slavery.
I mean, it's just...
And then, you know, Hochul's saying she's going to block any investigations in New York.
I mean, these people, it's just the magnitude.
The magnitude.
And that's how one time I cut my leg.
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They put me on massive antibiotics.
All this pus poured out for like a week, and it got better.
But they said I could have lost my leg.
And that's America, folks.
You see the surface cut, and we're kind of swole.
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And Doge and Trump are exposing it, and there's pus shooting out.
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Hurry up!
Find it all!
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In February of 2025, researchers from the CAFRE Research Project, including Dr. Nicole Socolow, Professor Filippo Biondi, Dr. Armando Mee, and Professor Corrado Malanga, announced the detection of extensive subterranean anomalies beneath the Pyramid of CAFRE.
Utilizing SAR technology, or...
Synthetic aperture radar in collaboration with Capella Space.
The team identified chambers, corridors, and vertical shafts extending at least one kilometer deep or 3,280 feet deep with dimensions mirroring the pyramid scale.
unidentified
Can advanced technology be lost and rediscovered centuries later?
Is it possible that an ancient culture had knowledge of and used?
Electrical power.
When such electrons are given the chance to bypass sections of rock via metal wire, quite large currents can flow.
Limestone, dolomite, granite.
Supposedly constructed for a tomb are, in fact, analogous to the exact materials we use to make electrical wires.
They also share a relationship with pressure, which increases their electroconductivity.
In 1993, a mysterious and inaccessible room was discovered after remaining hidden for thousands of years.
Appearing to have deliberately been concealed by the structure's engineers, the room came to be called the Queen's Chamber and was finally explored in 2011 with a small remote camera to reveal a long-lost mummy?
Hardly. It contained carefully crafted copper wire.
And more importantly, There were instructions painted as symbols onto the floor which appeared to show a clear wiring diagram.
jon bowne
Is what we are witnessing the unveiling of a massive ancient power source?
Or is there more to this potentially human history altering discovery?
Edgar Cayce, a Kentucky-born psychic who gave 14,000 trance readings in the early 20th century, spoke extensively about a hidden hall of records tied to ancient civilizations, particularly Atlantis and Egypt.
Cayce's take straight from his readings was that this hall of records is a literal time capsule.
Buried near the Great Sphinx at Giza, Egypt.
He pinpointed it between the Sphinx and the river, saying it holds the history of Atlantis, stashed by survivors around 10,500 B.C. He described three such halls worldwide, one under Giza, another in the Bahamas near Bimini, and a third in the Yucatan.
The Egyptian one, he said, is linked to the Sphinx's right paw, with chambers leading to a pyramid-shaped vault packed with tablets and artifacts.
Cayce also tied its discovery to a global wake-up call, saying it'd be unearthed when humanity's ready for a shift during changes in the Earth.
Since the early 2000s, the speed at which...
The poles have shifted, increased to around 34 miles per year, with a total displacement over the past 40 years of roughly 620 to 683 miles from its position in the mid-80s.
Cayce's predictions have been tied to the Emerald Tablets of Thoth, the Atlantean, translated by Maurice Dorial.
Its origins are debated, with some viewing it as a modern esoteric creation.
It claims to channel Thoth, an Atlantean priest-king who shaped early Egyptian civilization.
The tablets describe the halls as a hidden complex beneath the earth, serving as a repository of Atlantean knowledge and a portal for spiritual evolution.
The recent Giza findings, vast, unexplained subterranean structures, align with these narratives, particularly Thoth's claim of a building beneath the pyramids, yet the leap from radar anomalies to a 36,000 -year-old Atlantean complex requires further investigation that the Egyptian government is unwilling to undertake.
jay anderson
The incredible thing about what they're doing is this is space-based.
You know, they're using space-based platforms to do this.
And I think that's one of the reasons why they may be able to circumvent some of the restrictions placed by the Egyptian government.
Because, you know, what are you going to do about satellites passing over your region taking scans?
At this point, I think that's just fair game until they create rules against it, which they're probably hurriedly trying to do in the light of these revelations.
jon bowne
John Bowne reporting for InfoWars.
unidentified
Yeah, so we were after him.
wesley todd ball
You are?
unidentified
Which is what?
jay anderson
Took his money away.
wesley todd ball
Take Alex Jones' platform that he talks about away.
I ask that you make certain he can't rebuild.
mark bankston
is there's going to be a large set of plaintiffs who are going to be dividing up the corpse of Infowars in the bankruptcy estate.
And over the course of that process, that could get very, very dangerous for Mr.
unidentified
Where is Alex Jones when that happens?
wesley todd ball
Is he in the studio?
chris mattei
Getting ready to pounce?
unidentified
Or would he stop him?
chris mattei
And if you're out there right now and you're one of Alex Jones' audience members...
And you're considering giving him money, I just want you to know that based on the jury's verdict today, it's not a very good bet.
wesley todd ball
I ask that with your verdict, you not only take Alex Jones' platform that he talks about away, I ask that you make certain he can't rebuild the platform.
That's what matters.
That is punishment.
That is deterrence.
unidentified
There's going to be a large set of plaintiffs who are going to be dividing up the courts of Infowars in the bankruptcy estate.
And over the course of that process, that could get very, very dangerous for Mr. Jones.
chris mattei
But we will be at it as long as it takes.
And if you're out there right now and you're one of Alex Jones' audience members and you're considering giving him money, I just want you to know that based on the jury's verdict today, it's not a very good bet.
wesley todd ball
I hope.
That we never see someone like him again.
I hope that with your verdict, he can go away.
unidentified
But the money's not even really the question for me.
The question is, will this suit be successful at stopping him from being on the national stage?
So you were the top lawyer providing advice to the FBI in Connecticut?
william aldenberg
In-house, yes sir.
unidentified
When's the first time you watched a video of Mr. Heldig on Mr. Jones' show?
william aldenberg
I would be guessing, sir, but I would say approximately 2016.
mark bankston
Where were you when you saw that?
william aldenberg
I was sitting in my office on the second floor at FBI New Haven.
mark bankston
You didn't file a suit at that point in 2016?
william aldenberg
No, at that point I couldn't get anybody to help me.
mark bankston
You were looking?
william aldenberg
By then I was pretty certain by 2016 I had contacted...
The Agents Association.
I've been looking for people.
I've been asking the U.S. Attorney's Office to help me.
I've been asking the FBI New Haven to help me.
So, yes, I was looking for help.
mark bankston
How many times did Jones call you?
william aldenberg
He didn't call me, sir.
unidentified
Did you ever see this photograph, 289, on Infowars?
william aldenberg
I didn't know, sir.
mark bankston
Do you know whether he ever talked about you on his full wars?
unidentified
I don't.
william aldenberg
I don't know.
wesley todd ball
Alex Jones.
mark bankston
Yeah, so we were after him.
unidentified
You are?
Which is what?
mark bankston
Took his money away.
alex jones
All right.
I've never met Kyle Serafin in person.
Interviewed him a few times.
He's been on a lot of our guests.
He lives here in Austin.
Great guy.
He is one of the whistleblowers of whistleblowers.
Did so much.
Put his career on the line.
Now former FBI agent.
I don't even know if he wants Trump to try to bring him back.
He's been promoting a lot of whistleblowers in leadership positions.
But the first thing he exposed was the Virginia transgender rapes in bathrooms, literally Obama behind the scenes involved, manipulating memos came out to cover that up, and then the DEI, and then he exposed a bunch of other stuff as well.
And so I want to recap that, but I was saying, hey, you know so much, I want to get your take on the new Signal, houthy strike, leak fiasco, and I want to get, what else?
He goes, well, one of my associates, you didn't see off record, tell me to shut up, I'm not supposed to say this.
unidentified
You're good.
alex jones
I'm good.
One of his people currently in the FBI has now gotten into the Epstein files that they've been trying to hide.
So, Pam Bondi does have a task force, 24 hours a day, it is their main task.
Hundreds of additional child victims found, as she said, on Fox.
We're getting it confirmed from a credible FBI source, whistleblower, from his current sources.
This is huge.
And he's got so much more here today.
Kyle Serafin, Air Force veteran, FBI veteran.
Now he does a podcast, The Info War, the KyleSerafinShow.locals.com, and Kyle Serafin on X, KyleSerafinShow.com, Rumble.com, Kyle Serafin.
And so we've got him into the next hour.
So much to hit, but because he came here to get into this FBI document or group of just cover sheets, basically, that says a lot when you're a layperson.
We went and researched it and called some of our sources.
But this came out like five weeks ago.
He just learned about it in the last few weeks and was blown away.
He went and did a deep dive on it.
He knows the codes on it.
He knows what it really means.
And boy, now this is even crazier.
We did a foyer about a year and a half ago of the Biden administration for any files on our shows.
We've done it before, never get a response back.
Then it's marked two days into Trump's administration, 60 days ago.
They mail it to us.
It takes about a week to get to us.
And you can see right here, Federal Bureau of Investigation out of Virginia.
And it was Chase that did the request.
I said, they never respond to me.
Maybe you could do it as a journalist.
So Chase Brennan Geiser, And then we get this disc in the mail.
So it shows Trump, obviously, is in there ordering just massive releases, stuff they've been holding up, as he promised, transparency.
And here's the actual disc and the paper that it came in.
And then here are the documents.
We already published these online back when we got these, again, about five weeks ago.
Now, we can put these HD on screen and have Kyle go over it, but here's our headline from him on Sunday night with Chase.
High-low FBI whistleblower exposed a secret FBI espionage program seeking to jail, Alex Jones.
And this level three person set up in 2013, now it makes sense why they sent Jeffrey Goldberg to say, I'm here from Obama.
I'm not here to interview you.
We want to know who you work for.
And I'm like, it's me.
Then when they all sued me, the Justice Department behind it, that's all come out.
Now we have new documents we haven't released yet because it's so incredible.
We're getting more.
They keep saying, who do you work for?
Who do you work for?
They have the Justice Department come into the bankruptcy and have me read the U.S. Code, where if I say anything wrong, they're going to prosecute me.
And they had the court order four investigations for $3.5 million of the money coming in here.
We had to pay for it outside accounting firms.
And they had PI firms out of Dubai that work for MI6 try to infiltrate, try to pay off crew members.
Literally, tell us he rapes women.
Tell us he has gold hidden.
Tell us what drugs he's on.
They're like, are you insane?
So then we set up cameras, had him infiltrated.
We went to the FBI about that last year.
The Austin FBI.
We went in and told them.
So just like when the FBI came, it was actually the CIA through a law firm, but it was an FBI operation.
The first year of Trump's administration offered me $3 million from an internet research group that's the Russians.
It wasn't them.
And I went to my lawyers.
We went to another FBI office and filed that and said, we know it's another office.
So I'm always scratching the surface.
I'm going to shut up now.
But imagine how much resources, and this is what I know about, have been spent trying to find something that I'm doing wrong.
And I've said it.
In the past, I've drank too much, and I've speeded sometimes my car.
That's it, okay?
I mean, I'm a workaholic.
But I did have a good time sitting in my backyard in the pool throwing the football to my kids.
So I'm blessed that I'm not some kind of gangster, but they treated me like Lex Luthor, though I now have the haircut.
So, to go over this, all of them are going to try to shut up.
Kyle, give me the floor.
Then we'll get into the really big Epstein breaking news with you.
Thank you so much for being here.
kyle seraphin
Oh, it's my pleasure.
You know what's interesting when you look at this stuff, too?
Look at how much they actually gave you in excuses versus what they gave you in production.
You got two cover sheets that are mostly redacted.
That's pretty much what you got.
And then you've got this.
And this is all the excuses on why they're not going to give you what you want.
We're going to just give you paragraph after paragraph of excuses and explanations, and these are the exemptions.
And everything you do when you're dealing with the FBI, especially in the FOIA process, is as a way to get to the word no.
They are looking for a way to say no to you.
I always found that really interesting.
I actually got into some FOIA as well.
So I did a FOIA suit where we were trying to get access to something really simple.
We wanted a presentation that was done in an unclassified setting that was done in the Hoover Building.
I had a person that was in that meeting.
And they were doing a lampooning for a full hour of congressional investigations into the FBI by the, I think it was the 118th Congress.
Are we on the 119th now?
Is that right?
Yes. Okay.
So this was in November of 2023.
And we couldn't get it.
They showed us a video of them setting up the podium.
And they showed us the slide that said, do you have any questions, comments, or sarcastic remarks at the end?
That's it.
You don't get anything that you're looking for.
So when we're looking at this stuff here.
And we're specifically looking at what Chase got.
Let's just dig into it for a second.
Because it says a couple of fun things.
Thing number one, it's unclassified.
There's no real reason for them to hide it from you.
But we've got a type 3 assessment.
There are about 6 or 7 different types of assessment.
That's the lowest level of investigation that the FBI does.
Assessments are before you get into what are called preliminary investigations.
And then you have full investigations.
The presence of an assessment does not mean that there is no full investigation.
It just means it can keep open for a long time.
And this one in particular is an 801i, like India, which I had a buddy look at because I didn't use those.
It's a Humant Intel product, which means they were actually investigating, looking either for sources or they were looking for human information sources.
Humant is the slang term for intelligence coming in human format.
It also says BS on here, which tells us the field office it's originating out of, which is Boston.
Now, you guys don't operate out of Boston as far as I know.
alex jones
No, we don't.
kyle seraphin
But it sounds like Austin.
alex jones
So maybe they thought that was a good idea.
kyle seraphin
It is in the Northeast, which is kind of interesting.
And you've got the Boston office up there.
alex jones
And guys, if you can scroll through.
I know you showed the cover sheet.
Just as he talks, you have them.
Scroll through, please.
kyle seraphin
We're looking at a...
A case that they don't even use this type of classification anymore.
They don't use this sort of terminology.
But white racially motivated extremists is really interesting.
Today they call those radically motivated violent extremists, RMVEs.
So they've actually added the term violence into it.
And I'd be shocked if they hadn't actually updated this into something newer.
This is 2019.
As things progress, the FBI is constantly naming things in new ways, using new acronyms.
And by the way, that RMVE acronym was the same thing that they referred to traditional Latin Catholic mass goers.
They use that same exact term.
It's the slang term for white supremacy.
But it goes to a broader problem here.
Because theoretically, anybody would look at what you guys do and call you journalists, would they not?
Is that a reasonable thing?
It's the same problem we had with Project Veritas.
You showed sound investigations.
I know the people that were involved in that.
I don't actually agree with the findings on that.
That guy was a pretty low-level person that you were interviewing.
But when you talk about going after journalists as an FBI, you said it really clearly.
They spent a bunch of money.
They had opportunity cost.
Somebody spent their time, their government paycheck, and the hours that they were allotted to work on behalf of the federal government to look for what?
Wrongdoing by Alex Jones?
In the same way, I found out they were doing the same thing in New Mexico.
They were looking into what they called radical, what do they call them?
Anti-abortion violent extremists.
Because there were two abortion clinics in New Mexico and Texas had a heartbeat law.
And so rather than look for, I don't know, cartel members coming across the border in New Mexico, rather than looking into things like, do we have...
Do we have terrorists sneaking across the border because they're able to be trafficked and weapons and other things?
No, we're going to look into a pill mill that gives morning-after pills, and that's where we send FBI agents in the national security sphere.
So there's an opportunity cost for how many hours in the day that they're going to spend, and are they going to investigate you and other journalists, and are they going to do it the right way?
They're supposed to call you a sim, by the way.
There's a book that actually tells you how to investigate.
It's called the Domestic Investigation Operations Guide.
That's the handbook for how to be an FBI agent.
It tells you how to open cases.
And one of the things is, if somebody is an academic, if they're a religious figure, if they're a politician, if they're someone of high note, if they're a podcaster, a blogger, a social media influencer, or a member of the media, they're supposed to be called a sensitive investigative matter, which means they give you additional protections.
That means that things are supposed to be reviewed by higher levels, like attorneys, so they don't infringe on the First Amendment.
And I don't see that marked in here, which is kind of interesting why they decided they could get away without doing that.
alex jones
Well, look, I mean...
You first exposed this exact same type of designation as white supremacist crap with families that didn't want the cover-up of one particular young man posing as a woman raping girls in a bathroom.
And then parents come and raise their voice, and then now here comes the FBI, finds something on these families, and they tried to say, oh, it came from the school board.
But now we know it was memos from the Democrats all the way down in the Biden administration.
kyle seraphin
It's actually even more insidious than that, because the thing that I actually disclosed was that the Attorney General seemed to have lied in front of Congress, which is a very concrete allegation.
The issue is that there is a reason that the FBI might investigate a parent who's at a school board meeting and causing a problem if they are making threats over the Internet, if they're doing it online.
There's a way that you can have that happen.
It's called interstate threats.
There's a statute for it.
It's kind of low-level stuff, and it's probably not worth the FBI's time.
But... What the Attorney General said.
This is Merrick Garland going back a little ways now.
We're talking about an Attorney General who stepped up and said, we will not be using Patriot Act tools.
We will not be using counterterrorism tools to go after parents at school board meetings.
And then the Assistant Director of Counterterrorism generated a threat tag to be able to tag the intelligence on these cases.
And that's the real issue.
If you're doing a criminal investigation, we actually are not going to have a lot of danger in that.
Because there's going to be a process.
It's linear.
And they end.
They go in and they look for evidence.
They look for the actual crime.
There has to be a crime there in the first place.
And then once it's over, you're like, okay, fine.
Like, straight line.
Either we're going to prosecute.
We're going to decline to prosecute.
They'll settle.
Maybe they'll plea.
Maybe we'll convict them.
Maybe they'll be acquitted.
The end.
What we're talking about are intelligence cases.
And that's what this thing came out of.
This came out of an intelligence squad that did intelligence work, which is information for its own sake.
They're not looking for a crime.
There's no allegation that there's wrongdoing in here.
There's no way to say, oh, under the U.S.
code, this is a racially motivated violent extremist group because it doesn't exist.
It's not defined under U.S.
code. You can define domestic terrorism.
You can define international terrorism.
You can't define what an extremist is because that's like.
alex jones
And that's just like disinformation.
Oh, you two men can have a baby.
You're disinformation.
Oh, you don't like your daughter getting raped.
You're disinformation.
You're an extremist.
We just saw in Colorado, the legislature say...
Anything we say is offensive can't be displayed here.
And so it says 2A shall not be infringed on the state rep's laptop.
And so they say you can't display that.
We say it's offensive.
So I was watching you on Chase talk about this.
And it's the fact that you know how to read the codes on here and learn more about what it is.
And there's so many other documents.
It means hundreds of them attached to this.
And so this is started by Obama, ongoing.
We were not even sure.
It could still be ongoing.
It's probably not even the only operation.
Speak to that, and knowing what you know, I mean, clearly, what were they hoping to get here?
Because we've also had all these other attempts at infiltration.
Southern Poverty Law Center got some people on the payroll to do really illegal stuff.
I haven't even gone to the government about that.
They published it and bragged about it.
Hacked into the surveillance cameras.
Tried to find me doing something bad.
Didn't. Worst they had was me, you know, drinking vodka at midnight with my shirt off and nobody's here.
So much I work.
Sometimes I sleep here.
And I don't do that anymore, folks.
The point is, I mean, that's what they still published it.
kyle seraphin
But isn't it interesting?
It's Southern Poverty Law Center.
Those are the exact same people that generated the intel product that said that Catholics who go to Latin mass are the problem.
I mean, that's really, it's the same group.
alex jones
They said you're terrorists.
kyle seraphin
They've straight up been discredited by the intelligence sphere.
They said, look, these people are, you know, they're Intel operation.
They are pushing forward an agenda.
They are partisan and we can't look at them.
They are not a non-biased source of information.
So if you are going to use them in an intelligence product, which is probably not, it's not smiled upon, you'd have to find a balancing source.
And their balancing source was the Atlantic.
Their balancing source was going out and saying that rosary beads are now like the new tool of white supremacy and oppression.
alex jones
The same Atlantic that says pedophilia is not a problem.
kyle seraphin
The same ones that just said that the Trump administration gave me their war plans.
So it's very interesting that the same players always tend to pop up in this space.
That, for me, is kind of an indication.
You mentioned the numbers.
It's actually cut off on my copy over here.
But it showed that it was serial number, I think, 195 or 196, which means it's 100.
alex jones
We're going to show the HD document.
Yeah, just pull up the HD.
Go ahead.
kyle seraphin
You've got 190 other serials in there.
And what that means, so people understand, is that this thing has been going on for a long time, that there's about 200.
alex jones
There's the serial.
kyle seraphin
By the time we're talking about 2019, yep.
So 195 means there's 194 documents that come before it.
And a serial is literally, it's what comes in series after it.
And they could be any numbers of types of documents you do.
There could be interviews, there could be source debriefs that are going to be like a placeholder in here.
But this was a human intelligence case, which means they were looking for human sources to report on something, specifically white, radically or racially motivated violent extremist types.
Somehow associated with interval wars and that your name came up when they did this.
alex jones
Well, that's what the guy that went to the New York Times wrote an article.
Sure. And then there was another employee.
And this all happened in the last 10 years through.
It started about 10 years ago.
And the crews and troublemakers, they wouldn't really tell me about it until later.
They would come into the break room or they'd be driving to do a story about we have more reporters.
They'd say, you know, I know Alex says he doesn't hate black people, but man, I hate these N-words.
And they'd be like, whoa, we're going to get you fired.
You can't talk like that.
And they were always trying to get, so now it makes sense, and now we know they were hooked up with these people.
kyle seraphin
Well, let's get broader, too, on what the FBI tends to do, and we're seeing some of this stuff.
They'll set up a problem, they solve the problem, then they congratulate them for finding that problem.
This has been going on for a long time.
This is not news.
You can go back into the Muslim community.
They were doing this in 2005, 2006, 2007.
This is early George W. Bush time.
They were going into mosques and trying to get men radicalized.
They still do this.
I call it the playbook.
There's people on the political left that agree with me on this, by the way.
alex jones
Usually it's mentally ill people and it takes some years to get them ready to say they're going to do something.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, they cultivate.
They groom these people along.
They do it through a network of either what are called sources, right?
Those are what they call CHSs.
That's confidential human source.
And then they try to introduce someone that's called a UCE.
That's going to be an online undercover employee.
Then you have the actual undercover employees.
They're trying to get someone along.
And essentially, if you find somebody that's on the internet that's communicating with you, and they share all of your dumbest ideas, including anything that's violent, and they're able to help you do that dumb idea for the exact amount of money that's in your bank account, because they happen to be able to look into that as well.
Like, you're dealing with someone that is probably setting you up in this federal operation.
Now, Trevor Aronson calls it the terror factory.
He used to write for The Intercept.
He's no right-wing guy.
And he was looking at them, and his belief was that they were going after black and brown people.
And then you see what's gone on for January Sixers and people in the Patriot movements, and this has gone on.
alex jones
They were beta testing it after 9-11.
kyle seraphin
And it went on before that.
I mean, it really did.
They tried this earlier.
They just didn't have the Internet.
alex jones
It happened with the Black Panther Party and hell up.
kyle seraphin
They were going to Martin Luther King.
Yeah, exactly right.
So you can send this back all the way to the origins of the FBI.
There is a small contingent of the FBI that is looking to make work.
To the point where, in my last couple weeks while I was actually at the Bureau, I had a boss that said, hey man, I need you to go drive out into this county.
It's 300 plus square miles.
There are 3,000 people that live there.
Almost all of them live in this one little place.
I want you to go to the border checkpoints.
I want you to drive around and look for some business.
The business that we did is we went and found spies and terrorists.
It was a national security squad.
So I don't know where you go in rural New Mexico to find spies and terrorists.
It just doesn't really exist.
And I went out there and I said, well, you know, Border Patrol guys, what do you got?
He's like, well, we got a cartel case.
Would you like that?
I said, yeah, let me go ask about it.
It's like, well, we could try to spin that and make it national security.
At that time, it wasn't really, it wasn't going to take on.
But why are we looking for business when there's unlimited amounts of child sex trafficking that goes on?
There's unlimited amounts of gangs that are going out and moving drugs and people.
alex jones
But the Atlantic says it doesn't exist.
kyle seraphin
That's right.
Of course.
alex jones
I mean, literally.
And they just happen to be huge Jeffrey Epstein alumni, and Jeff Goldberg just so happens to be an Israeli agent, basically.
But everything's alright.
kyle seraphin
Everything's fine, yeah.
And the problem is we've got to go after people that are journalists.
We've got to go people that are going to disrupt any of our narrative.
And look, at the end of the day, I don't have to agree with everything that you say, it turns out.
And you don't have to agree with everything I say.
But you have a right to say it in this country.
And you have a right for your government not to be investigating you without problems.
alex jones
Well, also, most of the time they misrepresent what they claim I've said or Trump has said.
kyle seraphin
I listened.
I sat in a meeting.
This is actually in New Mexico as well.
So I worked last in the Las Cruces resident agency.
It was underneath the Albuquerque field office.
And we were hearing somebody that they wanted to investigate.
And so we had a dedicated intel person, intelligence analyst.
And she's sitting there and she's making fun of a guy that they're thinking about opening an investigation into.
And they said, look, here's his website.
And it redirects to InfoWars.
He listens to Alex Jones.
And that was used as derogatory information, and they were having this yuck-up fest, her and this other guy that's working there.
So there's a cadre of people.
alex jones
Bunch of locusts.
That's the thing.
kyle seraphin
That's exactly it.
And they were also the same ones that made sure we watched every single minute of Kadenji Jaxie Brown's confirmation hearing.
We had to have that on the television.
They were really upset that Kyle Rittenhouse was acquitted.
So these are ideological actors.
And this is what the FBI is right now.
This is why having Cash Patel in there, having a Dan Bongino in there.
That's like the coin toss in the big game.
It's like landing on the beach and the landing craft opening and people stepping into the water.
We haven't taken the territory back.
alex jones
Exactly. It's just a beachhead.
kyle seraphin
That's right.
It's exactly.
alex jones
And our guys are on the beach and people are bitching.
Do more!
Do more!
kyle seraphin
Well, on top of that, you're also seeing this.
And this is something I brought along with me because I found it kind of interesting.
I don't know this woman.
She might be a really nice lady.
She probably is.
Her name's Kim George.
She apparently is running for Congress in Arizona.
She's a former FBI agent.
We've never interacted, so full disclosure.
But when I see this kind of stuff and I see other retired FBI agents going forward and saying, thank God they're now recognizing the good men and women of the FBI.
These are the same good men and women of the FBI that went out and served every single warrant for January 6th.
That persecuted and got rid of every single one of their co-workers who decided not to get the COVID vaccines.
It's every single one of these people who said nothing when they could have said something.
Because I know that I wasn't the only person who saw the stuff that I saw and brought that...
alex jones
Stay right there.
We can pull this up.
It was like a week after Biden got in in 2021.
They get up with Jen Psaki and they go, the number one threat is white supremacists.
We're putting everything on that.
Let's come back and talk about it.
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alex jones
All right, Kyle Serafin is a top FBI whistleblower that exposed so much.
It would take two hours to get into that.
But famously, the first thing was targeting mainline conservative Catholics and other parents that were protesting literal transgender rapes in girls' bathrooms in Virginia.
And they came in to try to intimidate them and threatened them.
Right away when Biden got in, and then later in June of 2021, they put out the National Security Directive, we've shown it many times, saying the main threat is domestic extremism and white supremacy.
Then they define white supremacy as being left of Ronald Reagan.
I mean, it's wild, and you witnessed this.
Well, he likes Alex Jones, so let's investigate him.
I mean, just like I'm just a sticker you put on something as Satan, and then there's the whole issue of a...
National Security Investigation, Dragnet, ongoing, going back to 2013, ordered by Obama, and who knows what's even still going on, and then we do a four-year, they don't release it, Trump gets in, they release a little bit of it.
I mean, this is a window into all of this, and as you were saying, Kosh Patel came out and said, he didn't say abolish the FBI, he said abolish the big D.C. office of intelligence and make it a museum of how not to be tyrannical.
And that's the point.
I thought it's the CIA.
They're not supposed to operate domestically.
But having the FBI do this open-ended intelligence stuff is just an excuse for political persecution, I think, is what you were getting at.
So in my own selfish interest, but it's also, like I said, a window into this, we know a lot of what was going on.
But knowing from the document coding, clearly they were trying to find something.
What is my recourse?
Sounds like a conspiracy against my rights.
A decade, 12-, 13-year-old program going on.
I mean, what does this mean?
kyle seraphin
Well, you gotta understand what the FBI is and what it isn't.
I broke this down with Chase a little bit, but anytime I get a chance to tell an audience that is listening and votes in America, I want them to know this.
The FBI is basically two animals and it's drilled into one.
When I was working there and I was working in counterintelligence, I said it was sort of like a hammer with a screwdriver that's welded on the end of it.
So it's a really crappy hammer.
It doesn't get close to things.
It's awkwardly weighted.
And then it also has this screwdriver, which is like the intelligence tool.
And it's not really meant to do that because it's heavy and it's got that hammer on the under end where you're trying to screw stuff in.
And intelligence is a very different animal.
As you said, CIA is not supposed to operate domestically, and yet they do.
Of course they do.
They operate under this thing called National Resource Group.
So National Resource is a thing where they go and they recruit, let's say, Americans who might be of high prominence.
And they're going to travel overseas.
They're going to go out and do things that would be interesting to the CIA's mission.
Here's where it gets kind of interesting.
And I don't want to step into conspiracy realm because it's not conspiracy.
alex jones
But we know.
They use EPA money, USA money, all that stuff.
kyle seraphin
Well, all that stuff happens overseas.
But what happens that's really interesting, a lot of people don't realize this.
There's no classification behind this.
It's just not well known.
The FBI entered into a partnership.
This is a post-9-11 situation.
I got a buddy who actually was in this program.
Then he wasn't able to do it because of COVID.
He was an FBI agent that went to go train at the farm to become a CIA case officer while still being an FBI agent.
You can do that and operate domestically.
You learn how the CIA runs all their assets.
You learn how they do recruitment.
You learn how they run people.
As human sources.
alex jones
You really become a double agent in a lot of cases.
kyle seraphin
Then you come back into the FBI with that skill set, with that knowledge, you put the badge and the gun back on after three to five years of running them domestically in Atlanta, or you can do it in San Francisco, I think Los Angeles.
There's a couple other cities where you can go do this.
You come back into the FBI, and then you run human squads, and interestingly enough, 801I, that's a human squad that opened that sort of case in Boston, that assessment.
alex jones
And you met human intelligence.
kyle seraphin
That's right.
So you've got people that basically are analysts that are looking for human intelligence, and you have agents that are supposed to be theoretically trained specifically to recruit sources, but not to generate cases.
They're meant to generate information.
alex jones
So bottom line, it's an espionage case against me.
kyle seraphin
Espionage is the wrong word.
Spying would be kind of broad.
What I would say is they're gathering information.
They're doing intelligence work.
And intelligence work is specifically information for its own sake.
So if you'll give me just one kind of like linear thing.
We talked about criminal.
That's a crime happens.
We go find the evidence.
We go to prosecution.
That's the end of it.
We just put you in jail or we don't.
But then you've got Intel cases, and those are circles, and they just spin off more circles.
They're like a whirlpool full of vortexes, and they just can spin off more and more cases.
So what they'll do is they'll open it up.
Let's say they open it up on Infowars.
They open it up on a journalistic outfit.
And they say, yeah, these people are white supremacists, and we need to monitor them.
We need to find out who they're talking to.
We need to find out who those people are talking to.
And we're just going to keep looking until we find the thing that we want.
And then maybe we find something that has nothing to do with it.
The worst case example of this, when I was working in Washington, D.C., is that we had a guy who had an active intelligence investigation under counterterrorism for like 23 years.
And then they found that he was doing child pornography trading on his computer after a decade and a half.
Now, nobody wants anybody to be trading in child pornography.
alex jones
But we also don't want- Well, maybe they planted it like Sheryl Atkinson does.
kyle seraphin
Which is something that I would have never said could have happened until after I got out.
And you start looking, you go, I don't trust these people.
They investigated me because I followed the law.
alex jones
I had them try to plant child porn on us, the Democrats.
The FBI actually out of Connecticut, though, released a memo and said, no, you're the victim.
You never opened it.
But they ran with it in the media that I had child porn.
kyle seraphin
Of course.
And this is the thing.
We've gotten to a point where we are so deep in the weeds where we cannot trust the institutions that exist.
That's the legacy of 2020, 2021, where they weaponized government.
Part of weaponization is using government against you.
The other piece of it is saying these things used to be something that had some honorable people of some repute, and they tarnished all those folks, which is why I see people that are cheering on a new FBI with a new head.
Look, the entire FBI...
Employee pool of 38,000 people are still in place.
And some of them are good people.
And some of my friends are working on trying to redact esteem files or trying to get that forward.
I know you want to get there.
And some of them are just cheering on the status quo and they'll do whatever they're told.
And some people are actively working against it.
And those people got to go.
alex jones
I forgot this.
When we got this five weeks ago, I thought because I was researching it.
And I guess you with more knowledge pointed this out.
They need a source like Atlantic or New York Times claiming something.
To then use that as an excuse to open it, the ADL, weeks before this investigation, falsely put out a report about me saying I called for killing Mexicans on the border.
I actually had my lawyer send a letter.
They actually took that out, because I never said go kill people at the border.
But that's probably what they used to start that.
kyle seraphin
Allegation or information that there was a crime.
So you're using interstate means to communicate.
So there you have it.
And then you start looking, are those interstate threats against somebody?
Can we at least investigate it?
At the very lowest, you could open an assessment into it.
So sure.
Yeah, you just need an allegation.
And then you said the source.
The source could be just a person, by the way.
It could be someone who calls up the tip line in West Virginia, anonymously says, hey, I got this real problem.
That's how they opened a ton of January 6th cases.
You know, I know for a fact, I've got buddies who are in, let's say, the American North.
I don't want to get too more specific than that.
And they're working on cases that they threw out because it was bad predication.
They were told, do you know who the sedition hunters were?
Yes. Remember those?
And most of them seem to be foreign, and they seem to be funded by the DOJ.
They're getting paid as sources.
They were actually predicating January 6th cases off.
Off human source allegations from the sedition hunters, and the FBI agents were getting these files, and they were being told, do not predicate it based on the source.
Do not reference the source.
Go to what they have posted online.
Look at that, and then you can decide whether or not you're going to open a case.
And the sort of wink-wink, nudge-nudge was, you will open a case.
alex jones
And those very groups were always pointing me and Ellen and everybody out.
kyle seraphin
Of course, yeah.
No, they weren't going and highlighting anybody they didn't like, and they did it for political gain.
When I was working in the Bureau, I was working for the Washington field office, and I was on a surveillance team.
We were sitting outside of a house of a person of interest.
I'm dancing around words, but that's the most accurate thing.
A person of interest, somebody who seemed to be tied to the pipe bomber case.
And all we wanted to do was go and do a knock and talk.
That's where you just knock on the door and I say, hey, I'm with the FBI.
It sounds like you got yourself into trouble.
Would you like to talk to me?
By the way, if anybody ever has that knock, if you're listening to InfoWars and you get that, A, B, C, D. Those are the words you need to remember.
Always be closing the door.
You don't need to talk to the FBI.
I wouldn't recommend it.
I wouldn't talk to the FBI today.
I voluntarily made very, very small numbers of contacts since I've been out, and I do it on a recorded line every single time, and then they end up on like the Sean Ryan show, or they end up in the public because I am going to protect myself.
But I also know who I'm talking to on the other end.
There's no reason to talk to the Bureau.
But if they did come and do that knock and talk, that's what we wanted to go do.
This is right after January 6th.
This is January 2021.
And instead what they did is said, you know what?
Don't do surveillance on this guy.
Don't do the thing that you and your team have spent many hours cultivating and we have tens of thousands of dollars of technology deployed into the field to go do.
Why don't you come back, sit at your desk.
And why don't you look through anonymous complaints from Americans who are alleging that their neighbor is an a-hole and like Ronald Reagan, and therefore he probably was that January 6th, and we don't really like him.
And that's what they had us do.
We were going through hundreds of them, and it goes to the point that we were talking about earlier.
There are things in this country that are protected by the First Amendment.
It turns out your political speech online should be, and unless you are making a clear and direct threat, there's no reason for the FBI to be coming and listening to you because there are bigger problems.
alex jones
No, Tullery, let's go back to what you just said before we went to break.
And I agree with you.
We are on the beach.
We haven't even gotten the beachhead.
Trump got driven off the beach four years ago.
And you notice they're trying to sap their energy, having them all testify in Congress right now.
And my job's not being an apologist.
When I see something Trump even begins to do, I don't like, I'll go right after it.
Like him saying, yeah, maybe we'll join the British Commonwealth.
No, you won't.
But for people that just think they can wave a magic wand, they have no idea.
kyle seraphin
So the FBI protects the FBI.
Historically, it has done this.
Basically, every time since Hoover, it has always sort of tried to bubble wrap and isolate the FBI director.
That person is a figurehead, and that person goes out and provides vision, and this is where we're gonna go with it, and this is what it's all about.
And then you have a person called the deputy director, and the deputy director is a long-term, long-time, almost always FBI agent.
We've had our first example that I can be aware of where that isn't the case.
That's Dan Bongino.
And so what happens is someone who's promoted up through the ranks, usually they got four or five or maybe six years worth of working cases, which is the business of the FBI.
Then they move into management.
They spend a decade and change in that culture.
Post 9-11, that culture is pretty disgusting.
And it's actually very heavy to the intel side, heavy to the we can learn about it because we have tools to do so, even if it's not criminal predicates, even if it's not investigations that are ever going to hold up to court scrutiny, because we just look for information for its own sake.
Then you've got those people and they come in and they protect the rest of the FBI.
From the director.
So the director, even Chris Ray, if he had good ideas, which I don't think he did.
But let's say he did have good ideas and he wasn't part of this sort of uniparty establishment.
He still would have been isolated.
And the first couple weeks that Kash Patel was there, I know for a fact that happened because I have friends who have been moved into the Hoover Building right now who are part of the counterinsurgency, which is what we're talking about.
In the same way, beachhead, you've got to go and take ground back that has been conquered by somebody else.
alex jones
And the bureaucracy has been building these fortresses.
It was just like the New York...
The FBI head that they had resigned that was hiding the Epstein files.
He was in emails saying, we're in a war.
Don't do it.
You're the resistance.
And I'm like, how was he not instantly fired?
Then when he wouldn't give over the Epstein files, they made him resign.
But I mean...
kyle seraphin
No, he retired with all of his benefits.
alex jones
Credible arrogance.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, that's the thing.
And so what did he say?
He said, dig in.
I used an e-tool when I was in marine training.
And so I'm saying that here.
Now dig in and fight back and that you should defend it.
And then...
alex jones
That's saying Trump's the enemy.
kyle seraphin
Listen to what it says more broadly.
They were very upset.
About something very narrow.
What was asked for were certain types of people that were involved in prosecuting cases regarding January 6th.
That's something Donald Trump ran on, and he was elected on that basis.
You keep seeing the political left run this interference right now saying, oh, we gotta, you know, I can't believe that Donald Trump was able to turn what happened on 9-11.
I mean, on January 6th.
They've made those one and the same in my mind.
And so they're trying to turn that around.
They're trying to make this thing still play.
It reminds me of the, what is it, the Mean Girls, where she says you keep trying to make Fetch happen.
They're trying to do something that can't be done.
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They honed in on something, but check this out, Alex.
kyle seraphin
Who did the people who wanted to protect these FBI agents hire?
Did they go hire some nonpartisan law firm?
Did they go find some people that was a former United States attorney that has a really sterling reputation and cut down the middle from some sort of middle-of-the-road state?
No. They went and got Norm Eisen and Mark Zaid.
They went and got the most partisan, leftist people.
alex jones
They hired Koskov and Koskov that the Democrats ran the fake trials against me.
They hired Chris Maddy, the former federal prosecutor, especially putting Republicans in jail.
kyle seraphin
This is the thing.
It's a thing specifically in certain areas.
There are some soft seats where you can charge people.
Southern District of New York, in the District of D.C. You can do it in EDVA, which is Eastern District of Virginia.
There are places where it is easier for the government to come at it because everybody who works there, the jury pool, all the people that work there are dependent on government.
So you have this sort of...
What we call the self-licking ice cream cone.
If nobody's ever heard that, you've been around the Beltway.
The self-licking ice cream cone only exists because it has a tongue and it's ice cream and it doesn't need the actual purpose of the mission.
The FBI is self-serving and it has been for quite a long time.
And the number one sin, the number one crime in the FBI is actually not committing a crime, it turns out.
The number one crime in the FBI is embarrassing the FBI.
That's one of the reasons why I don't work there.
I did that thing.
I said, no, I'm not going to go get a COVID swab every 72 hours.
You're out of your damn minds.
I've got a top secret clearance and I've been a paramedic for like a decade.
I'm not going to put something up my nose to tell you that I'm a Christian.
That's not going to happen.
alex jones
Which we now know is sold to the Chinese.
kyle seraphin
Well, not only that, but that stuff was ethylene oxide, which is a known carcinogen by the state of California, as far left as you can get.
They were worried about this stuff.
As someone who's done literally hundreds, if not thousands of nasal swabs, I used to work at North Austin Medical Center.
Before I went into the FBI, I did nasal swabs for the flu.
And you do it once a year, maybe.
You want me to do that every 72 hours?
You've lost it.
I'm not going to do it.
And by the way, the only people that asked to do that were Christians.
Christians who had pro-life objections.
alex jones
That's all harassment to purge you, just like the shots and the transgender crowd.
kyle seraphin
And they found out who the people that were going to say no were.
That's the big thing.
And they tried to purge those people, so it doesn't matter.
That's what this S means, by the way.
It's the people that identify that said, no, I'm not going to say yes to what you want to do.
Like, I don't work for you.
I work under the Constitution.
alex jones
What's the S stand for?
kyle seraphin
Suspendables. All the people that knew that they would get suspended from their job would do the right thing, whether the cost was losing their job or not.
alex jones
Yeah, it's a litmus test.
kyle seraphin
The white martyrdom is what it is.
alex jones
We've got a lot more to get into in the Epstein stuff with your source that, indeed, they do have a task force that is 24 hours a day.
Your associate, just when you know it's still inside, know it's in the Epstein file.
So this is being broadened.
They did get all this stuff three weeks ago, as she promised.
They did basically rate it and get it.
So that is huge news.
I want to get to when we start the next hour in about 12 minutes or 10 minutes.
Just big picture.
How do you think Trump's doing?
What do you recommend should be done with the FBI?
What are your concerns?
I mean, I'm seeing these Tesla things escalate.
The left basically encouraging it.
We have, you know, my issue is, why do we have to get the deep state on their criminal activity and all the stuff behind the scenes going after Trump for stuff when we've got so many of the bureaucracies and people?
With billions and billions of dollars, Stacey Abrams, $2 billion out of the EPA money, $375 billion, $20 billion.
The last month, Biden sends to bank accounts with no record, and they admit, whoa, just to hide it.
I mean, that all right there, they got Al Capone for income tax evasion instead of all the murders because that was easier.
And I know Cash Patel and all of them are really smart.
They've got to know to expand the beachhead and stop this tyranny.
We do need indictments quickly, and I hope they're looking at the easiest ways to get people because there's so much theft, there's so much people's family, so much COVID fraud.
The documents we haven't released yet are these law firms and the so-called NGOs and these other groups getting federal DOJ money, millions of it, during the suit, right before the show trials, and it's COVID money.
And then I look at it, we're having lawyers look at it, it doesn't look Like it's legal.
Kind of like Cori Bush's husband has got indicted.
So, and we haven't put the documents out.
I'm telling people how the first time here we have that.
We have so much more.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, I got to see that a little bit.
Chase sent me some of that.
So I know what you're talking about.
And yeah, it looks, look, at the end of the day, the state pays itself.
The government feeds the government and the entities that have the interests of the government.
So the biggest thing is, and you asked, how do you do this?
You have to expand that beachhead presence.
You have to be able.
To take back institutions.
So you're not going to see indictments.
At the end of the day, do you really, like...
You do.
You care, probably.
But most people don't need to see the entire Epstein files.
They don't need to see them.
It's not relevant to them.
What they would like to see are indictments.
They'd like to see arrests.
They'd like to see prosecution.
They'd like to see jail sentences handed out to people that do evil things.
And if you saw that, whether or not you saw the entirety of discovery before it went to court, you don't need that.
Like, you just don't if you're an American person.
What you want to know is that your institution is working in a way that is not ideologically based, but it's based on the Constitution not protecting its own institution, particularly the FBI.
alex jones
Arrogance in the bureaucracy.
kyle seraphin
Oh yeah, they think that they have a right to it.
They do.
They work for the FBI.
It's not for you.
Let me tell you this, Alex.
This is factually accurate.
Between September 3rd and September 7th of 2020, Donald Trump was president at that time, the FBI changed its public-facing website to de-escalate.
The priorities and the core values of rigid and rigorous obedience to the Constitution of the United States.
It went from being number one, which it was when I signed up, to being number seven or eight.
And it was behind things like respect and compassion, right?
They change diversity.
alex jones
Which is all nebulous.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, well, no, these are all leftist values.
They're feelings.
They're like fake compassion.
alex jones
Well, it's them saying we're good so we can...
kyle seraphin
It's a moral argument.
unidentified
That's exactly right.
alex jones
We can persecute you.
I mean, exactly.
And that goes back to saying white supremacy is the new main mission, which real white supremacist violence is very rare and it's not good.
But then they mislabel everything as white supremacy, being against lockdowns, being against forced shots.
Being a conservative Catholic, I mean, this is an outrageous scandal, so you're saying you don't think we'll see a bunch of indictments?
kyle seraphin
I think that we won't see them for a little while.
I think that my buddies that are working on this said that there's something that needs to be done.
Now, look, there's a big difference between burning off a couple of DVDs and bringing it over to the United States Attorney's Office and saying, here's what the discovery is, here's the case we'd like to move forward, this is the individual, okay, we started from this predicated investigation, we opened either a subs file or its own investigation on this individual, and they did fill-in-the-blank things.
They were involved in human trafficking, they were part of a conspiracy, blah, blah, blah.
And then you give it to them.
You can give the United States Attorney the whole thing because you're going to give the defense the whole thing in theory.
As long as there's no sources or method that have to be productive that are part of national security, they're getting a big file with DVDs or multiple DVDs.
But you can't just release that to the American people.
You can't do that because there are victims that have to be protected and there are actually laws that fall in, which we want there.
So at the end of the day, I don't think you're going to see a huge dump.
But they do exist.
I had a buddy who was looking at his computer.
He was trying to find another printer.
And he's not in an office that's related to anything in Washington, D.C. And he called me up and he goes, hey, man, I was looking in.
I was trying to find a printer.
I was looking at the shared drive.
And suddenly I saw there was a new drive, the P drive.
P like Papa.
And I opened it up and there's like 16 or 14 terabytes full of files that are named after Jess V.S. Hold on.
alex jones
Let's keep this till next hour because I tweeted this on X. It's going to go mega viral what you told me off air.
So there's such a task force.
That FBI agent, you know, is literally in the stuff they don't want out because it's getting distributed so much.
And when Pam Bondi says, our main focus is this right now.
And you're saying your guys are like, no, this is going on.
kyle seraphin
I know at least two guys that are geographically disconnected, one at headquarters, one not, that are dealing with this stuff, yes.
And one, like, he just accidentally got access to it.
He went, oh, that's cool.
I guess they're doing what they said.
So that was confirmation part one.
A guy who doesn't know him, but I know him independently, reached out and said, we've crashed servers because we are putting so many people into the server to start looking for victim names and redacting the things that need to be done.
alex jones
Stop right there, because I know you're like, trust me, you're a very credible whistleblower.
You expose so much what you're saying, and you're just like, oh yeah, it's no big deal.
Yeah, there's a bunch of people on it.
I'm 51, and I knew a lot when I was younger compared to young people, but I was a dumbass, okay?
When I was younger, I thought, do this, do that.
Well, once you actually run something, and this is nothing compared to what Pam Bondi or Casper, I mean, this is like zero compared.
Folks, I mean, and I'm not, again, people are so pissed at Trump administration that there's not all these arrests.
We're not in Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia.
This is due process, folks, and the left's been trying to get rid of that.
You know, I saw the U.S. attorney out of New Jersey, you know, really chew people out on the news the other day.
She said, listen, we're not the left that just goes and makes stuff up.
But she goes, we got a bunch of bad stuff, and now we got to process it.
I don't think the public realizes what you've got to do.
Okay, we have hundreds of child victims they've said they've now discovered.
So now they've got to go investigate that.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, there's law that protects those victims and the way that they're disclosed.
Let's be really, really fair and honest in both ways.
I'll be charitable, but I'm not going to be overly fair to people that don't need it.
This was an unforced error with the binder thing and dancing and doing TikTok videos and putting influencers out there.
They didn't need to do that.
They could have come in and said, I know we promised you the Epstein files on day one.
That is not logistically capable now that we've gotten into the office and we understand what we're dealing with.
What we're going to do is we're going to protect the victims in accordance with federal law.
We're going to push forward for the appropriate indictments.
We're going to continue.
We're going to set up a specific task force.
I would have taken them and taken them offline and put them in Omaha, Nebraska or gotten them out of Washington, D.C. That's not what they did, but they could have.
They could have said out there, but what they should have done is said, we're going to get away from all this.
We're going to focus in on it.
It is a high priority, but we're not going to give anything just yet.
But it's not because we don't want to.
It's because we are unable to for various reasons, and we understand the scope of the problem.
We know what we promised you is not doable.
We're going to come up up front and just tell you that.
Instead, they said, oh, I got the Epstein files on my desk.
And then they made this illusion like, oh, it's at the Southern District of New York.
Like, when I listen to that as someone who used to work for the FBI.
The Southern District of New York works for Pam Bondi.
Whether we agree with that or not, like, it does.
Like, they actually answer to the AG.
And saying that it's at the New York field office, these things are actually kept on computers, as I just said.
I got a friend who is nowhere near 2,000 miles away from Washington, D.C., and he accidentally had access to these files because they opened up...
alex jones
But the good news is a lot of them are there.
A lot of the really bad stuff we know that never got put in it.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, and they're working on it with people who are working literally around the clock to the point where they actually crashed their own servers, which is why I think my buddy actually...
alex jones
Oh, stay there.
I want you to recap all this.
Take your time.
We start the next hour because this is big news.
Sure. But we've got to go to break.
But just separately, I know what's going on.
They're up there doing all this stuff.
They're told here is all there is.
Then when she realizes, because other sources of the FBI we've had on were telling her, literally that morning they're on the show saying it, and by the evening she puts a cover sheet on and says, I got scammed.
We're going to get it all.
But they still put it out.
So the point is...
It's very transparent.
Now they went and got it.
Now people are processing it.
I mean, that's good.
Because this is what's going on.
They got a lot of stuff going on, folks.
And again, we're going to go to break.
We're going to come back.
We're going to get into this in detail.
I want you to repeat all that, more detail, every little detail.
This is so important.
What your two sources were telling you.
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I mean, look at gold right now.
Holy mackerel.
I mean, it is up just enormously.
So yeah, I'm pitching it to you right now.
I mean, I'm handing out, you know, Gatorade at a marathon.
I mean, I'm handing out ice water in the Sahara.
I mean, it is such a, the top-rated, the biggest company, because they're the best, and he's a patriot, and he keeps his show on the air.
Are you, I mean, look, they're getting the most calls and stuff they've ever had.
So, and I knew this was coming, and I was telling you last year and a half, I said, get in now, get in now.
And you're like, whoa, now it's really luck.
It's gonna go up, people.
unidentified
Or, I'm an upside-down world.
alex jones
I mean, there's nothing sure in this world but your relationship with Jesus Christ.
All right?
Other than that, though, gold and silver in investments, and I get it, and I've had it for emergency backup, a hedge against it.
Insanity. Okay?
So, I'm done plugging.
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kirk elliott
Here's where all eyes now are on gold and silver.
Because gold went over $3,000 an ounce, it's at an all-time high.
That's a very strong technical and psychological threshold number, that 3,000.
So now that the world is looking at gold, the world is also going to be looking at silver.
So even the massive growth that we've already seen, I'm guessing it's just the beginning.
Every podcast in the patriot world has some kind of a gold dealer sponsoring them, right?
It's like, oh, we're selling these shipwrecked coins.
They sell semi-numismatic coins.
They sell rare things.
They sell things with a story.
And I'm warning you, just because gold is good, not all gold is good.
Just because silver is good, not all silver is good.
I've seen literally, Alex, hundreds, hundreds of invoices from people who have purchased from other dealers that have been on these things, and they're paying $60 to $80 an ounce.
Let me explain how this works, because it's not good.
So a dealer will actually commission, like the Canadian Royal Mint, and people will think, oh, this is a Canadian Royal Mint coin.
No, Canadian Royal Mint makes Canadian Maple Leafs, one ounce.
If you have some kind of a two ounce or one and a quarter ounce wildlife coin that you're paying $60 or $80 an ounce for, here's what happens when you liquidate it.
So you bought it for $80 an ounce when silver was, let's say, $28.
That's when I was looking at a ton of these invoices.
So what happens when you liquidate it?
You send it to the depository.
The depository says, we don't want this crap.
We're going to give you 4% less than spot.
We're going to melt it down into a coin or a bar.
So you paid 80 and you get the same price as bullion when you liquidate it.
What that tells me is silver really has to move to $60 to $80 an ounce for you to break even.
This is the worst stuff, but people love to sell them because they're higher commission.
I don't play that game.
So if you think you've been ripped off on something like that because this story sadly resonates with you, call our office.
And we'll see if we can unwind it for you and do something to get you into a better spot.
alex jones
You said two weeks ago, I think it'll be above 3,000 in two weeks.
Now it's over 333 right now.
3,33.
Gut level.
You're not predicting it, but just as a man, as an economist, where do you think gold is in a month?
kirk elliott
3,100 in a month, like in the next three to four weeks.
And then I think it gets to 3,200 by the beginning of the summer.
And we could literally see 4,000.
As momentum starts to gather and as the eyes of the world get on it.
And then silver, you know, probably 50 to 75. People need to call you.
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kirk elliott
My pleasure.
alex jones
See ya.
It's good to be right, isn't it?
Wow. I'm in here with Kyle Serafin, probably the most famous FBI whistleblower in modern history.
We can't get into all the details.
He's showing me people in the main D.C. operation who are right now investigating the Democrats having a national security investigation of me.
He's showing me the D.C. field office here.
We're going to get more into that.
But some stations don't carry this first five, but everything we still cover in the five is really important.
It's just usually off the other topic.
We'll go back into the Hugh Jepstein.
They confirmed mass investigation, new files they were hiding, task force, all of it's confirmed from his sources right now.
But Trump, this just came out minutes ago.
President Trump signs a presidential memorandum requiring the immediate declassification of all FBI files relating to the crossfire hurricane investigation.
We'll play this clip, and then Kyle, for those that might have been hiding under a rock, what crossfire hurricane was.
You talk about treason, a made-up national security thing trying to demonize and overthrow the electorate's choice.
Trump and his first administration coming in when he was the candidate, when he was the president-elect, and then once he was president, absolute slow-motion coup attempt.
Here's the club of the president.
will scharf
Next, sir, we have a presidential memorandum for your attention.
This memorandum requires the immediate declassification of all FBI files relating to the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.
This was obviously one of the instances of the weaponization of law enforcement, powers of prosecution against you and others.
We believe that it's long past time for the American people to have a full and complete understanding of what exactly is in those files.
donald j trump
Which gives the media the right to go in and...
Go and check it.
You probably won't bother because you're not going to like what you see.
But this was total weaponization.
It's a disgrace.
It never happened in this country.
But now you'll be able to see for yourselves all declassified.
Is that correct?
Yes, sir.
All declassified?
will scharf
Yes, sir.
Everything? The FBI filed with a classified annex.
But other than that, we'll put everything in the public eye.
donald j trump
Is anybody going to look?
What about you?
unidentified
You gonna look?
donald j trump
And frankly, the FBI should be ashamed of themselves.
And so should the Department of Justice.
And so should Biden.
alex jones
So for folks that don't know about Crossfire Hurricane, tell them, Kyle.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, Crossfire Hurricane was an intelligence investigation that was spawned outside.
It was actually out of headquarters, as far as I understand it.
And they were looking into the presidential.
They wanted to go after a guy who was looking at being president.
This is where it gets kind of really interesting, too, for me.
Because one of the things that the Obama administration did on the way out, so essentially what they did is they went out and they cultivated sources.
They were looking to a guy named Carter Page, and then they ended up jumping using different FISA techniques, some of which include lying to the FISA court, which is a specific court of judges that rotates in Washington, D.C. It's known as the FISC.
Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.
And those people are supposed to do what are called ex parte hearings, where they represent the interests of the public.
In other words, the FBI comes in and says, here's all the information we have.
This is the exculpatory information, which means that it makes them, you know, this actually cuts in favor of the people we want to investigate.
Here's what we think they've done that's wrongdoing.
And here's why we need to get this information.
And we need you to give us some very broad powers to go and investigate.
They went after Carter Page, even though at the time, as I recall, he was an active CIA source as well.
He was reporting to the CIA.
So that's pretty crazy.
That wasn't disclosed.
So they kind of cherry-picked around, got some information, falsely presented it, and it was all ideologically based as far as we can tell.
And a couple of people lost their jobs, guys like Peter Strzok, people like Lisa Page.
They ended up getting paid out a million dollars each, by the way, or pretty darn near it.
One of them got more and one got a little less.
And then you got Andy McCabe.
Who was the FBI deputy director and the acting director at one point in time when I was working there.
He was my first boss in the Washington field office of all people.
So I walked into this sort of like this crossfire hurricane.
It's a crap storm of just stuff blowing at you.
alex jones
A giant FBI Democrat deep state attack on the candidate Trump.
kyle seraphin
That's a way to say it.
It's not wrong either.
It's really not.
I mean, that's exactly what went on.
And what it showed was weaponization means that you are using a government agency that actually has an apolitical purpose in theory, even if it's never been used that way.
And you are going to use it for your own ends.
In the case of the FBI, you had Director Comey who was there.
Actually, I got a funny picture here.
You want to see it?
Should we show the people?
alex jones
He's like 90 feet tall.
Let me see that.
kyle seraphin
There you go.
That's like a seven foot tall middle finger to the American people.
That's when I got my credits.
alex jones
God, we've got to zoom out.
He's so tall.
Is he like nine feet tall?
kyle seraphin
He's about almost seven feet tall.
Yeah, I think he's like six foot nine, six foot ten.
alex jones
I mean, my God.
kyle seraphin
He's a big guy.
alex jones
He makes you and I look like Oompa Loompas.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, no, it's ridiculous.
My wife is about five feet tall.
So when you line us all up, seriously, it looks like a middle finger.
alex jones
Russian dolls.
Wow, we'll be right back.
All right, folks, things are moving so fast.
Incredible FBI whistleblower Kyle Serafins here.
During the breaks, he's showing me, talking to folks at the D.C. main headquarters.
With the Epstein files that they've finally all gotten, that they've all been on this constantly, even guys that aren't on it, it's just everywhere.
It's all just in the FBI.
They're not hiding it and siloing it anymore.
And it's just massive amounts of new victims.
I'm reading this stuff right now from the FBI.
And when Bondi said yesterday, oh, there's hundreds more, and they're just like, can't even deal with it.
There's so many.
This thing just blew wide open.
And you've got the U.S. A former Trump lawyer out of New Jersey saying, oh, we got a ton of stuff.
It's really bad.
We got a bunch of victims and a bunch of witnesses, and we got to go out and interview them all, and it's huge.
We're going to do it right, but don't worry.
The bad guys are going to prison.
Okay, so we're not Joe Stalin where you just order whoever he wants sent to the gulag or hung or shot.
Okay, we're not the left.
They get martial law going and burn up the cities, and we're getting a real slug out here.
It's going to go that way, and it'll be very hard to turn that off.
Once that goes.
So I oppose tyranny from the left and the right.
This is playing with fire here.
So everybody that wants immediate action and all this stuff, that's why the left should give up, because you're never getting back in power the way this is going.
All you can do is claws into your political grave with you.
I mean, even Bill Maher says the Democratic Party's game over, folks.
So Kyle Serafin, I want you to slow down here, and you can read off that if you can or whatever you want, but recap and then add all of it to it, because this is big.
You've got...
Multiple FBI sources, one that just sees it everywhere, not even hidden now, not even his investigation.
Other, you know, assigned to this.
We have the articles in the news, all hands on deck, 24 hours a day.
You know, double shifts, main priority, Epstein files that they had to get two and a half weeks ago by sending in people from D.C. into New York.
Then they make the head guy resign, the one that said dig in and battle Trump.
So everything we've been told is tracking.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, James Dennehy.
I was looking up his name earlier because I was trying to find him.
Also, incidentally, James Dennehy, who was kind of resisting against this, was supposedly the whistleblower that went to Cory Booker to try to say that Cash Patel was doing things he wasn't allowed to do legally.
So there was a resistance there.
This is a problem.
I won't say much more about that, but I know a little bit more about it, and I feel pretty comfortable saying that out loud.
So we'll say allegedly that's what happened.
End of the day.
You hear stuff from the Trump administration right now.
There's two things that are happening.
We're seeing actions.
We're seeing executive orders where people are making statements.
They're going out.
He's signing the document and saying this is what's going to happen next.
But then you've also got this other piece where you go, yeah, but is it really going on?
We were told we were going to get the Epstein binders day one.
We were going to all see all the information and it didn't come out.
So we're kind of in this like now we need verification.
I just listen to what people say and then I go and see if folks can actually validate that.
I've got friends that are working at headquarters.
I've got a couple of them at this point.
There are friends of mine.
It turns out when you become an FBI whistleblower, less and less people talk to you.
They just don't want to get involved.
But a few of them that are not scared, that are courageous and said they'd be happy to both lose their job and shut this agency down if it had to be done.
They've gone out and proactively told me, he's like, look, we've broken servers.
We've had so many people accessing them to do this work.
We've been working through the weekend.
alex jones
You just showed me this.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, no, I'm literally showing you.
The people that we're talking about here, they've reached out to me and said, yeah, we have all hands on deck.
I meant to go do something because he was going to go meet one of my friends.
Wasn't able to do so.
And he's like, look, dude, I got stuff going on.
I can't because we have all hands on deck meetings talking about Epstein files.
We are doing the redactions.
We are doing the things that were said.
And then completely independent of that, I got another buddy who's Much further to the west of Washington, D.C. And I'll just leave it nebulously at that.
He reached out and said, I was looking for a printer.
I was on my network.
And they must be so actively trying to steelbox this up.
Because when you start having too many people touch the exact same files on government computers, we had a joke, Alex.
When you were working on FBI computer systems, we would always say that the motto of FBI AT is yesterday's technology tomorrow.
They're just crap.
They're just the worst computers you could ever have.
And so apparently they crashed them all.
And my guess is, is they started moving to more and more stable servers and accidentally opened up the permissions to people, including another buddy who had nothing to do with it.
And he was like, oh yeah, I just saw there were like 14 terabytes of Epstein files.
alex jones
And you were showing me, they're saying...
More victims than Bondi even said.
I mean, this is like just massive.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, I think the information will continue to roll out as they can.
But at the end of the day...
alex jones
They're shocked by how...
When you say terabytes, they're saying it's massive.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, like 14 terabytes.
alex jones
So it's not a couple hundred pages like they gave Bondi.
kyle seraphin
Correct. No, that was always going to be nonsense.
Look, here's what Bondi said.
alex jones
She said there's recordings.
We know that.
kyle seraphin
We saw them walk out with boxes.
I mean, I saw the same drone footage that everyone else did.
alex jones
This is videos.
This is audio.
This is bad.
kyle seraphin
One would think.
But listen, are they going to do redaction of all those things?
Maybe. Most likely you won't see videos.
alex jones
Most likely you can't publish child porn.
kyle seraphin
Nope, you can't.
So you're going to be kind of in this spot where it's the same thing as with national security stuff.
When they do a national security investigation and they have evidence, they can't reveal it.
And you can't reveal things that are child pornography.
alex jones
By the way, I always use that word.
It's like a lessening of it.
Child abuse, child torture videos.
Call it porn like it's porn.
No, it's raping children.
kyle seraphin
Yeah. No, indeed.
In fact, they actually have all kinds of different acronyms for it, and they're all much more nasty when you actually spell them out.
Child sexual abuse materials, things like this.
I think it's CSAM is the acronym they're using right now.
They used to call the entire unit that did the investigations violent crimes against children, which is a really good way for describing what we're talking about.
alex jones
How do FBI agents deal with looking at this?
I couldn't.
kyle seraphin
My roommate at the academy when I was working at Quantico, going through there, was the most even-keeled guy you've ever met in your life.
Good Catholic father.
Very, very mellow.
Didn't react to much.
Worked there for eight years doing that as an analyst.
I asked him the same question.
Apparently, they get regular mental health checks, just like doing anything else that's really ugly, that you have to be a part of it because it's a necessary evil.
You're seeing the nastiest thing in America.
And so they would take them in.
They would do regular screenings.
They have an opportunity to opt out.
It's voluntary only.
Alex, the only people that are going there are doing it by volunteer basis.
They agree to be part of this because they know they're getting in to go after real evil.
And what's funny is there's not very many people who want to volunteer to be part of that.
There's not very many people that signed up that said, I want to go protect kids.
And the people that I know that are really passionate about it and they can't get that job, they end up leaving the FBI and going and doing it, like, in a private party sphere.
I have a couple friends that did that as well.
alex jones
Well, I was about to say, because I've, you know, investigations and things and a lot of stuff's going on, and just even Hunter Biden's laptop, once we started seeing stuff, I told the crew, I said, it's up to you if you want to look.
I'm not looking at this.
And then we had a crew that was been sent horrible stuff that you had to quit because they saw this stuff.
I mean, it is just...
I mean, I don't know how people can look at the stuff that I've seen in some of the FBI files that have come out in cases of snuff films and stuff.
kyle seraphin
It's the same as investigating like a war crime.
You're investigating something that's like the truly worst part of human nature.
So you've got to be able to flip it off.
alex jones
I remember 20 years ago, just one UN, NATO, DynCorp thing where they were selling the snuff films in LA on VHS, even though it was decades later.
That's how they do it.
And it was describing like a whole bunch of men raping two toddler boys.
And when they're done, they blow their heads off.
And I mean, and he just goes from there.
And it's in the file, just reading a report.
I couldn't imagine watching that.
kyle seraphin
No, and the terrible thing is if someone has to watch it, then they have to document it.
They have to do timestamps.
They have to do screen grabs.
They're typing this stuff up.
Like, it's a truly...
alex jones
Awful thing, and people should pray for the folks that actually- Yeah, because I've seen people in a car wreck, heads cut off, and you pull right over, the person's blood spraying out.
kyle seraphin
There's a whole thing called Faces of Death.
You remember Faces of Death?
alex jones
No, I remember when I was like 10, and my older buddy's brother was watching, and I still hated that movie.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, they're awful.
alex jones
I mean, just real executions and stuff, and I still- Exactly what I'm just saying is I've seen a few people die, I've seen some bad car wrecks, smash kids, and I still occasionally have a nightmare about it.
I couldn't just, I'm tough, but I mean, you know, kids getting hurt, but I couldn't imagine when I read just in reports, I mean, watching them torture little babies to death and blow their heads off.
kyle seraphin
What's crazy is that, although that's a pretty small part of what the FBI does, and it could be, you could basically spend 100% of the FBI's resources on that all day long.
I've had numerous people tell me that you could do unlimited amounts of work on that violation alone.
alex jones
But hold on, Atlantic Monthly said it's not happening.
I can show you that.
kyle seraphin
I know, right?
The crazy thing is that local cops see this stuff every day.
I used to ride an ambulance.
I used to see a little bit of it.
I'd see it coming to the ER on occasion, and you'd get a little taste of some of the ugly, evil crap that exists in this world.
And the fact of the matter is our local police officers see this almost every single day.
They see kids being abused.
They see them being victimized.
They see parents.
They see a boyfriend who doesn't have any connection to the baby and throws an 18-month-old down the stairs and then just leaves them and takes the mom to the hospital because the mom got tuned up as well.
And there's a baby.
I've been part of transport teams where they had to go breach a door to go get an infant smaller than 18 months old who had been left alone after being thrown down the stairs.
And I basically rode in an ambulance with a baby in my arms.
That was all beat to hell.
And you just want to see the worst thing happen to the people that did it.
So being able to do that for years, it takes a special kind of person.
We do have special kinds of people.
When you see these kind of notices about the good men and women of the FBI, there's a small number of people that volunteer to do that and a smaller and smaller number from what I'm told.
I keep getting told.
It's not a priority they want to have.
So I have friends that work that violation is what we call it.
And they told me they get less and less volunteers every single year.
But it's incredibly important.
alex jones
And as you said, Well, this is a Manning Monthly article that just says it's a right-wing fable.
There's no kids getting trafficked.
kyle seraphin
What's crazy is that there actually are right-wing fables, or left-wing fables, which is that white supremacy is the biggest danger.
I used to watch guys who were considered to be white supremacists.
I would have been the kind of guy who would have been tasked to do surveillance on, let's say, an Infowars as a topic.
And the craziest piece that I used to see was that it was basically 20-something-year-old guys who were probably in college, or maybe they were working a job, and they were wearing boat shoes, and they'd have khaki pants on and a polo shirt.
And they were on Reddit and they were being racist or something.
They were making like racist memes.
It's just not the threat that people act like it is.
alex jones
Oh, yeah.
Those guys aren't going to blow up a synagogue.
kyle seraphin
No, they're not.
And you know what?
We did undercover operations where we were the surveillance team watching these guys.
And you'd go out there and you'd say, hey, man, we saw what you said online, so you've got some undercover that says, we really want to help you do this bad idea that you came up with, that terror factor.
They want to go out there and they want to get you involved in the plot.
And the guy would be like, nah, man, I think I'm going to go home and get a job.
I think I'm going to go and hold hands with some girl.
I think I'm going to quit and I'm not going to actually do the thing I said.
Because it was just online and it wasn't real.
A lot of this stuff is fabricated and it's fake.
And so the FBI gets incentivized to actually investigate it.
And this is maybe the biggest thing that Cash Patel can do right away.
They need to get rid of something called IPM.
It's called Integrated Program Management.
It is a thing that incentivizes FBI senior managers to the tune of like $30,000, $50,000, $60,000 a year in bonuses to fill out and accomplish certain types of cases.
And they only want to do certain types of cases.
So they go out and they basically bid on what their job's going to be the year before they do it and how many crimes in that sort of category they think they're going to be.
alex jones
So it's bounties to jack up fake crime numbers.
kyle seraphin
It's literally like watching traffic cops get out there and get assigned a quota.
And they do it in every type of case.
alex jones
They've got to go manufacture it.
kyle seraphin
They've got to have enough.
And if the priorities of the administration, like the Biden administration, where you've got to have this number of white...
You know, nationalist cases and you got to have this many white supremacist cases.
They'll go out there and try to find them because there's money on the line behind it.
And by the way, if your boss is getting money, then you're getting the gold star and the check mark on your review.
And you're the guy who's going to get the next promotion when it comes up or you're going to get the specialty duty.
So all of these things end up being the lowest level of corruption ever, which is that people just want to see their own ends accomplished.
They want to see a little better life for themselves.
And they're not just like purely out there operating.
Where is the crime and how do we find it and how do we stop it?
They're out there predicting it and then going out there and making sure their predictions are correct because they're incentivized to do so.
alex jones
I'm trying to find the article.
I see these every day.
Another black lady just got indicted for faking a noose around her neck that white supremacist did.
And I look into these so-called white supremacist crimes.
Literally, in almost every case, it's a Jussie Smollett.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, it seems like 90-plus percent are race hoax.
Because why?
There must be a market for that, though.
That's what we learn.
People do the thing that they're incentivized to do.
There has to be a market.
There has to be an outrage mob from the left that's going to come out and support her and it's going to go back her up.
And so, yeah, they go do this kind of thing.
And they, generally speaking, don't get destroyed as much.
I think Jesse Smollett still probably is not worth nothing.
I don't think he's been completely sued into oblivion.
He didn't have to pay for all the investigative hours they wasted from the Chicago PD going after that news, right?
alex jones
I mean, obviously the cops knew it was fake immediately.
A little string around his neck.
Oh, they poured bleach on me and said MAGA country at 2.30 at 23 below in Chicago.
Not even a sandwich shop near there.
Just totally made up crap.
And it just goes on and on.
kyle seraphin
Remember, this is the same FBI that sent a dozen agents to go out and find out what was going on.
What was that guy, Bubba something?
Bubba Wallace's garage tie?
The one that pulled up and down the garage door.
They sent out a bunch of FBI agents to go look at a piece of rope that was meant to pull up and down.
alex jones
And it showed, like, all of them.
Most people have that in their house if it's not powered.
kyle seraphin
Yeah. Yeah, no, it was a standard not.
It's wild.
But that just shows you where the priorities are.
If you need to generate a certain type of case, then you're going to go out and try to find that case.
And that is not, so this is what a guy like Cash Patel, this is what a Dan Bongino is up against.
There's a really interesting moment that we're at play.
So we talked about Bondi saying certain things.
We know that some of the stuff she's saying checks out, at least according to the people that I'm talking to.
The danger is...
Is you have an FBI that is rooted against, and it's not monolithic, by the way.
There's 56, 55 different field offices.
I think they reduced one since I left.
There's 55 field offices, and they all have their own culture.
We found that out during COVID.
Some people were extremely right-leaning.
Some were very left-leaning.
Some were very constitutional.
Some said, let's let the court sort it out.
We don't have to go after you for COVID stuff.
And some of them said, no, no, no.
We are going to stomp on you and find out who is not compliant.
And so it just depended who was in the office.
But you're dealing with 55 different cultures, plus you're dealing with a headquarters unit, and you're dealing with the institutional inertia.
They have to both stop something that has been going on since basically September 12th of 2001.
alex jones
Yeah, so I want to talk about, do you just abolish it and remake something new?
We obviously have some federal police system, but expanding on that, I want you to get into Crossfire Hurricane.
If you had more you wanted to add there, I want to get into every other topic you want to cover.
This is such an important window into all of this, because every culture in history gets taken over by its Praetorian Guard when it collapses.
And the FBI, you can call the Praetorian Guard.
You know, out of all these systems, and it's obviously been political since day one, J. Edgar Hoover, the blackmail, all of it, but it's gotten worse and worse and worse.
Ted Gunderson was high-level FBI.
He was dying of cancer.
He phoned in, interviewed many times, and he just said, I want to apologize to Martin Luther King.
I ran the COINTELPRO and harassed his wife and his family and did all that.
I thought he was a communist, and, you know, he kind of was a little bit of one, but it was still wrong, and I apologize.
He was, like, dead a week later.
He was very well-spoken before he died of bladder cancer that spread around his body.
So, I mean, he knew what he was talking about, but he also exposed a bunch of the child trafficking and the CIA and all that.
And back then, it's like, oh, that's crazy.
Then so many of the documents were recently released four years ago, the Finder's case.
And, I mean, the CIA had a whole base in D.C. doing all this.
I mean, this...
People... People didn't understand.
kyle seraphin
How about we just found out that people have been speculating on us for a while, but that Lyme disease was actually developed by the DOD to be able to go drop into Cuba.
alex jones
Yeah, Plum Island.
kyle seraphin
And now it's a season.
It's a problem every season.
alex jones
It's weaponized tick-borne syphilis.
Right. And it's declassified.
They made it at Plum Island with Nazi scientists.
Right off the coast of New York.
And then deer swam the mile across.
kyle seraphin
I mean, we're living in the meme where it's like, you know, conspiracy theorists versus people who, you know, read the mainstream.
And it's like 90 to 1 right now.
It just continues to chalk up.
There's another one.
alex jones
My grandmother was told by her doctor in Austin, like 1956 or whatever it was, that the polio shot with the live virus gave her polio.
And they admit most of it was caused by that.
So that's my grandmother.
She lives at 9 too, but was in a wheelchair most of the time.
It just goes on.
My dad was on a mountain climbing trip in the East.
He's been in great shape.
Got Lyme's disease.
Didn't know he had it for a year.
Ate all his joints.
Really bad shape today because of it.
I mean, I can go through just the carnage in my life just from these shots and just from diseases the government made.
kyle seraphin
There was a Tucker Carlson interview the other day.
It was an epidemiologist, public health guy, and he's talking about it.
He says, look...
They basically eliminated measles through hygiene, through better nutrition, through all the things you can do to take care of yourself before the measles shot popped up in 1963.
And so it was basically down to almost nothing in the United States in the first world.
We oftentimes look at this causation correlation problem and we go, oh, well, that's when it happened and this is what was going on.
Well, what else was happening in the world?
And when you work in a broad space, you know, if you go do...
I went through paramedic school when I was in the military, and I didn't actually study ever.
All I did was watch House MD, because they always went and they had to decide, was this something that was happening because of something they contracted, or was it something environmental?
And you see how much has been changed in the environment of the United States, whether it comes to public health, comes to nutrition.
Now we're going the opposite way with that, but it comes to the way that we actually take care of our bodies, the fact that we have...
Soaps, and we have running water, and we have toilets.
alex jones
Well, exactly.
I've had a bunch of scientists on.
It's the same in Australia, Europe, everywhere, because the only countries that were behind each other are Europe.
And this is a rough graph.
I'm just butchering, but anybody can pull these up.
So you've got sanitation, let's just say 1900, you know, really starts coming across the Western world.
And infectious diseases and all this chronic stuff goes all the way down until the 19...
1940s, and then right when shots start kicking up in the 50s, it actually goes back up.
And then now it's going like that, with all the chemicals, the food, but it's like that.
And it's sanitation, and right when the vaccines start, that's when it starts going back up.
Anybody can pull up those graphs, and that's butchered, but you can pull that up.
Type in graphs, sanitation causing drop in infectious disease versus vaccine graph, you'll pull it up.
kyle seraphin
It's just basic environmental stuff.
I mean, this is some of the difficulty.
And so you sit there and you listen, and we're going to talk about...
Crossfire Hurricane.
We're kind of dancing back and forth.
alex jones
I want to put bookends on this.
We're going to take the first of this segment and take it and edit it together.
Sure. Just other points about now seeing, you've shown me from your sources, that there is a huge, massive FBI operation, exactly what Pam Bondi says, digging through this huge amount, terabyte after terabyte, crashing servers.
That is just sensational that that was being suppressed and they tried to pass off some old documents with a few new ones to Pam Bondi three weeks ago.
This is incredible news.
So they're telling us the truth.
They have it.
It's what the U.S. attorney said yesterday out of New Jersey.
He said, listen, it's massive.
Hundreds of new victims.
We're on it.
It's going to take time.
So stop it.
We have to do a new process or these bad guys will get away.
We've got to find out who's innocent, who's not.
We have sources.
We have whistleblowers.
We have witnesses.
That's a process, but accelerated.
Can you speak to that?
How long it will take if it's accelerated?
kyle seraphin
Well, I think we look at the single biggest case the FBI ever worked, the most important thing they ever did.
And I'm saying that in a sarcastic tone because it was January 6th, right?
They took agents from every single field office and mobilized them to go after regular Americans for trespassing charges.
Which, by the way, was not what I signed up to go do, and also not the case for a lot of people that worked in the Bureau.
What they did there is they sent out what are called leads.
They sent them out to the field offices, which were handed down to supervisors and eventually to guys like me who are brick agents, what we call frontline agents, GS-13s, that are going to go out and do the investigation.
And they said, here's the allegation or information that this person was involved in a federal crime.
Here's the predicating opening if you would like to open the case.
And then they have an option.
They can open the case and they can pursue it aggressively.
They can go out and get sources into it.
They can go out and collect evidence.
They can do surveillance.
They can go and write paperwork so they can get process where they're going to get financial records and bank records and phone records and all the kind of things.
alex jones
But now Bondi is feeding it to the agents.
kyle seraphin
It's what it should be done.
alex jones
He's handing the ball to you.
kyle seraphin
It sounds like what they're doing right now from the stuff that I can hear is that they're actually trying to clean the records they already have because it sounds like they probably have been doing this for a while.
We have to believe that they were collecting on this.
Look, why have we never heard who the Johns were, who the people were that were involved, right?
That's the people that would actually be the additional spinoff cases.
You can't prosecute Jeffrey Epstein.
He's gone.
So if that's the case, if you can't go after that guy, you got to go after the people that he was associated with.
And in the same way they did the J6 case, which is they said, okay, here's this inciting event.
We're going to send leads that says this person was involved in it.
You can use Jepriensky as the inciting event or sort of like the beginning of the hub, and then all of the people that were connected to him that may have been involved in criminality, whether it be in the conspiracy end, whether it be in the actual smuggling of people, whether it be the actual abuse of children, whether it be the taping of it, creation of child pornography is a crime as well, broadcasting it, consuming it, etc.
All of these things can be pursued, but you have to identify who's the person and then do individual investigations into each of them.
Or they can hold them all in one big file.
Which is another option.
And create sub-files for each of these people.
And they can send agents from all over the country that say, hey, look, Alex, you're not on this case.
You're just going to run a lead for me.
I need to go interview this person.
alex jones
What is the best way to do it?
kyle seraphin
It depends on the case.
alex jones
So they're probably doing it.
She says they found a bunch of Johns, but they've got to process who's guilty, who's not.
So it appears from this information that you actually showed me the information on your phone.
This is real.
It's very aggressive, like she says.
kyle seraphin
I think there's no reason not to think that.
I mean, look, it's one guy sitting in headquarters and one guy sitting outside in the field.
That's two sources.
Is that enough for me to say, yes, there's a massive operation?
Probably not.
But I would say it leans that way.
It makes me believe that the things that we're seeing...
alex jones
Well, I mean, it means they got files, like she said.
kyle seraphin
They have things to work with.
alex jones
And they're going over it.
Absolutely. How many terabytes?
kyle seraphin
I don't know, 14, 15, something like that.
alex jones
I mean, that's a lot.
kyle seraphin
That's a lot of files.
And the goofiest thing was is that they said that we only have a couple hundred pages of documents.
I've had cases that are open and shut that will have a couple hundred pages.
You'll get a couple hundred pages from a coroner one time.
It'll just be all of the blood tests.
alex jones
Let me give the crew the headline.
They already put some of this out.
Take this segment.
Put it together.
I'm so busy.
I do production on air.
People will ask what goes on around here.
There's no pre-meetings or anything.
It's all like, during the break, I'll be writing headlines.
Here's your headline.
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The FBI, we'll get the exact number, has just 14 terabytes of Epstein stuff.
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music* I just want to recap one more time, folks, that Kyle Serafin is a very respected FBI whistleblower.
Amongst many things, he exposed that they were going after Catholics and conservatives in Virginia that were peacefully protesting literal transgenders raping kids that were covering it up in the school bathrooms.
And we know that the Democrats and Biden were behind the scenes trying to cover it up and intimidate Americans.
That's just one of the things he did.
He got targeted.
He got investigated in the process.
He did it right the first time, giving it to Congress, all of that.
And he's a hero, and it's going to be men and women like that that are going to save this country.
And we've got 30 minutes left, 25 minutes of airtime.
You're going to be on with Owen.
I know he's going to want to focus on the swatting, and I understand that's near and dear to him getting lasers pointed his head, and I'm sure that's great.
Just please recap and cover other stuff on that, too.
People need to hear this everywhere.
This is so huge.
Just finishing up on the Epstein thing.
What an incredible piece of information he showed me.
FBI headquarters, huge task force on it, files, 14 terabytes, that's just what they saw.
Crashing servers, people being told, this is your main focus.
Exactly what Pam Bondi said yesterday in the news.
And then in a whole other office across the country, one of his other friends and former colleagues in the FBI.
Saying, oh man, it's everywhere.
They're just, boom, it's right here.
I mean, it's just, they're like, boom, boom, boom.
Pushing it into the field offices to investigate.
And that's what you do when you're going after them.
So, the cover-up is over, ladies and gentlemen.
And we know about the hard drives going back to VHS 30 years ago.
They said houses full of it, as I was described in FBI documents from Zorro Ranch alone.
It's a whole complex medical facility.
Okay? And we got Little St. John's Island in the Caribbean.
We got his torture palace or whatever it was.
It literally had like dental chairs.
No, it's a torture chair, folks.
My dad's a dentist.
It's not a dental chair.
Bill Clinton addressed paintings.
I mean, George Bush flying paper airplanes at the World Trade Center.
This is sick.
Okay? And these were sick people.
Mossad, MI6, CIA.
And then you got the owner of the Atlantic Monthly, Steve Jobs' wife, funding all the transgender targeting of kids.
And then she's in there with all these articles, oh, there's no abuse of kids, go to sleep, nothing's happening, and now they've run this new PSYOP, you know, with the intelligence info, so amazing.
But now, Crossfire Hurricane, what you think should be done at the FBI, Trump, where all this is going, something else he just did that was really smart.
We'll play this clip here, it's very short.
President Trump has just signed a pardon for Devon Archer, the former business partner of Hunter Biden.
Archer blew the whistle on the entire Biden crime family and was...
Persecuted for doing so.
Congrats, Devon.
So smart to protect the whistleblowers.
You could have mafia that's killed people.
They bring down the whole organization.
You give them a facelift and witness protection.
Okay? Absolutely.
And they're like, Trump's protecting people.
That's how you bring them down.
So, I'm going to play this clip and get your take on that.
Here it is.
will scharf
First, we have a pardon for Devin Archer.
Devin Archer was a former business partner of the Biden family.
He was prosecuted relating to a fraud investigation, but notably, the tone and tenor of that prosecution changed dramatically after he began to cooperate with congressional investigators and serve as a witness against Hunter Biden and the Biden family.
We believe that was an injustice, and therefore we're asking you to pardon him.
donald j trump
And many people have asked me to do this.
I think he was treated very unfairly.
And I looked at the records, studied the records that he was.
He was a victim of a crime, as far as I'm concerned.
So we're going to undo that.
alex jones
Another big move by Trump, pardoning Devin Archer, the main whistleblower who then prosecuted and went after for exposing the Biden crime family.
A very smart move to protect the whistleblowers.
There's going to be a lot more.
Kyle Serafin, former FBI agent, Major Whistleblower, your take on what just happened?
kyle seraphin
Yeah, so, I mean, this is what happens when you try to put together a criminal organization or put together a criminal prosecution.
You've got to give some people amnesty.
You've got to give them lesser charges for things.
You remember, he was working with Tony Bobulinski.
That was the whole story.
They came forward.
They asked him to come and testify.
And, you know, as I recall, I think he pled guilty to some things.
The story kind of runs together in my head.
But, yeah, why wouldn't you?
Like, at this point, we're seeing a bunch of people that are being...
That are being made whole.
I've seen guys at the IRS as well.
You saw the whistleblowers there.
They were just put into positions by the Secretary of Treasury.
He says, hey, you guys came forward and did the right thing.
You're getting harassed.
You know what I'd like to see too, though?
I'd like to see some FBI whistleblowers like my buddy Garrett O'Boyle put back into his job.
He's been unpaid for 30 months.
So, seeing criminals get pardoned, I'm okay with that.
Seeing J6ers pardoned, 100%.
I was actually on the fence for a little while because some people were actually violent.
But at the end of the day, what the Justice Department did actually was it needed to be rebuked.
They needed to say, all that work you did and all that stupidity you spent on J6, that needs to go away.
So you do that, you gotta make people whole, you gotta go out there, and you gotta incentivize.
Jim Jordan's been holding hearings on this stuff, but what I'd like to see is people made whole and been treated properly.
alex jones
And what you're saying is, like Trump's promoting Pentagon whistleblowers.
Military whistleblowers, IRS whistleblowers.
Don't just support them, promote them, because that's the new culture.
That's really the way to fix it.
kyle seraphin
You have to put people that have actually experienced it.
If you had told me some of the things that went on, like the fact that the FBI actually investigated me, I had people call me that were working inside the Hoover Building, and they said, I just got out of a meeting, 45 minutes, people from DOJ inside the Hoover Building were sitting down.
You're not going to be able to walk without looking over your shoulder for the next three years.
I went like, are you kidding me?
And then I found out that they subpoenaed my Twitter following.
They subpoenaed all my records from social media.
We found out about that.
And actually, Elon Musk, of all people, is actually defending that.
They did it after the fact.
They're still appealing this case, trying to try to make case law.
They've talked about maybe filing on my behalf.
And so when you find out that the agency that you worked for, I didn't break any laws.
I went forward in good faith.
There's actually a federal law that says 5 USC 7211.
You can petition your member of Congress.
It is how you do whistleblowing if you want to do it.
It is defined and they're trained on it every single year as a federal employee.
I brought that forward and then they investigated me.
That's crazy.
That's absolutely crazy.
So I wouldn't have believed some of this stuff beforehand.
The fact that if you've never experienced it, then you don't know.
And people haven't experienced what you've experienced, so they can't say, okay, this is 100% true.
It's real.
It's crazy.
It comes at you from every direction.
And you've got to go and make these guys whole if you ever want someone to step forward again.
Because I assure you, there are people that know that are bad things that happen in our government, and they're watching.
What happens to Garrett O'Boyle?
What happens to Steve Friend?
What happens to Kyle Serafin?
Are we going to make them whole?
Are we going to do the right thing?
Look, I don't want to go back and work for the FBI again.
They stabbed me in the back once.
I'm good.
But I'd like to be at least made whole.
I'd like them to say...
alex jones
Well, you're going to be an advisory role to Trump in the Justice Department.
I guarantee you.
I'll bring it up when I talk to Trump.
So many things to bring up, but...
You tell, hey, Trump, did you know the Biden, including Hunter, got 18 secret services in South Africa?
Trump goes, I'm going to check that.
One hour later, revokes it.
That's why they're scared.
You get in the stuff, I guarantee you, he'll take action.
That's why we're saying it here.
But you said something in the last segment.
I don't know how the internet works because they don't understand FBI nomenclature.
You said, oh, they're pushing in all the field offices for the investigation.
There's two ways to do it.
But they've got to clean up the file.
When you say that, it doesn't mean cover it up.
I know what you mean, but to collaborate, you mean the defense of these criminals is going to get whatever the FBI agents basically have, they're given.
You've got to be very safe about sources, witnesses, victims.
That stuff's got to be held back as another file so that you don't give the bad guys a blueprint to know what you know.
Is that correct?
kyle seraphin
Partially, yes.
You noticed Pam Bondi said things about national security.
That means that there were probably some people that were running afoul of different national security cases.
I got a problem with a lot of them, and I think a lot of them are pretty dangerous the way they do it because they don't need criminal predication.
But when we talk about national security sources and methods, FISA, technical sources that they can use to compromise devices or things like that, if they have these things in there that indicate what we're dealing with, yeah, you're going to have to go and clean those things up.
alex jones
Oh, I get it.
If they're doing a national security dragnet.
And they find out some stuff about Epstein and good agents put it in the file.
I mean, here's an example.
kyle seraphin
You can't share that.
You can't share it because of the way that you got the information because not every criminal attorney is going to be read in on that type of information.
You have to have a clearance.
There are, like, literally, there are defense attorneys that also have a security clearance so they can observe classified evidence against their clients.
Now, usually what has to happen is they have to actually declassify it to be able to go forward.
If they actually want to continue the prosecution, but they negotiate.
They still have to be able to see what's going on there.
So yeah, that's part of the thing to clean up.
But the other piece is, if they're going to release anything publicly, it's got to be very much cleaned up so the public doesn't get the names of victims who could be harassed.
It doesn't go to people who shouldn't have it.
So there are certain federal laws that protect federal victims.
alex jones
And by the way, I mean, I've been involved in a lot of civil cases and stuff.
Even really good lawyers mess up.
They put one innocent, one victim's name in, it'll all turn into those agents and Trump are bad.
It's a damn landmine.
kyle seraphin
And it's a violation of federal law.
So it's almost like a do no harm.
They've got to make sure that they do this stuff right.
Now, like I said, at the end of the day, does it matter whether or not the American public gets every access to all the files?
I don't think it does.
I think what they want to see is movement forward.
And I think if the Trump administration were to come forward with messaging and you heard Pam Bondi say, look, we're actually not going to give you the entire file because...
We can't do that until after it goes to court.
Some things are not going to be revealed until after we've actually handed it over.
People have a right to their own proper defense.
We don't want to poise in the public.
We don't want to have a judge come and slap down what we're trying to use.
alex jones
All that stuff is beyond medical records.
So people that don't understand this need to grow up.
Okay, you got real action here.
14 terabytes they grabbed out of New York.
This is amazing.
I mean, this is great news, because it's exactly what Pam Bondi says they're doing, and this guy has incredible integrity, has amazing sources, and it's going down.
Wow, so much.
You got the floor.
What else do you want to talk about?
kyle seraphin
Let's talk about Crossfire Hurricane and one of the things that is the...
alex jones
Recap what that is.
kyle seraphin
Crossfire Hurricane is the national security investigation of Donald Trump's campaign and eventually bled into his actual term as president.
It led to a bunch of different people inside the FBI being removed.
There's some settlements afterwards and they were made whole.
Even guys who did the wrong thing who lied to their own agency.
alex jones
It's an attempted FBI deep state Democrat coup against Trump.
kyle seraphin
I will co-sign on that.
Yeah, that's correct.
The crazy thing is this.
That was all possible, at least it was more possible because of what happened in October of 2016 and the last year of the Obama administration.
Biden was obviously the VP at that time.
They updated an executive order that was 12-333.
And if anybody keeps track of national security stuff, you guys know that 12-333 is the authorizing executive order that gives the NSA the ability to do domestic collection.
Which means they can go out there and grab information from the telephone records.
They can grab content from your text messages and so on and so forth.
If it touches American wires, our intelligence service have at least the ability and sometimes they actually have the purview to go out and grab it.
I'm not saying whether it's right or wrong.
I'm just telling you that it does.
Obama changed the game there.
And what he did is something that had never been done before.
And I actually think it was probably a hedge because they thought Hillary was going to win, and they were giving Hillary even more powerful apparatus within sort of the intelligence apparatus of the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, and so on, this sort of big conglomerate of intel agencies.
What I think was going on there, they updated and allowed the FBI for the first time to have access to what's called raw FISA.
Alex, Roth FISA?
That's like looking in your email box.
That's like me opening up your email and reading your spam and finding out who's sending it to you.
It's like me opening up your text messages and seeing who's involved in that if you don't have encrypted text.
It's me seeing who's in your missed calls and who's in your phone calls.
There's an entire software program that's called DWS or the Data Warehouse System.
And prior to October of 2016, Wired Magazine is pretty good and hard to the left, but they also tend to care about civil liberties when it comes to things that are...
In the tech sphere.
And they were alerted by this.
They said, this is real problematic.
And then, of course, Donald Trump won.
It didn't mean that suddenly Donald Trump had access to these tools.
What it meant is that the FBI, the NSA, and so on, they now had this open door sharing where when I went to go work for the Bureau in November of 2016, my first day on the job in December of 2016.
I got assigned cases, got access to DWS, this data warehouse system, and I could literally search names of Americans, and they weren't masked.
They weren't what we call minimized.
They were unredacted, me going through a warehouse of NSA collections, and I didn't need a warrant.
And all of that is what we talk about with FISA 702.
That's the craziest thing.
alex jones
Well, here's an example.
Judge Arpaio on my show, gosh, right when Trump got in the office like eight plus years ago, he was given, because he's former DEA.
In Mexico, pretty famous, the head guy down there, all that craziness.
And talk about old school, but the point was, is that he was given by the DEA a bunch of NSA files of numbers.
And he said, by the way, you and Trump, this was going back years before Trump even ran, through him getting elected, it was my numbers.
And I had an old landline I would use for radio interviews that I'd since gotten rid of, and I'd had that thing for like 20 years.
And it had my landline.
It had my parents' numbers.
I never didn't live with them.
And it had my cell phone and my old cell phone in an NSA deal.
And that's how they had Trump in there, his Mar-a-Lago number.
I showed it to Roger, who had his Mar-a-Lago suite.
Trump used to have the whole thing, but now he just has an apartment there.
Trump's apartment number at Mar-a-Lago.
And I was like, yeah, Roger's like, yeah, that's the number.
I mean, again, this was way back before the 2013 thing, and the DEA had access to that, and they're like, hey, dude, you're under NSA.
kyle seraphin
Well, and this is the legacy of the Patriot Act.
This is the legacy of September 12, 2001, when we heard people, basically, we learned the exact wrong lessons, and I know you've been talking about this for a very long time.
alex jones
They're just grabbing everything I ever say, just so in case they find something.
kyle seraphin
The question is, is who can access that information?
If it's the NSA, the NSA doesn't have badges and guns.
I'm not crazy about them having access to it.
I don't like the intelligence sphere.
I don't like our government knowing things they don't need to know when you have a First Amendment liberty to say it and not be...
alex jones
But now they're handing it off to the FBI that's become a secret police.
kyle seraphin
This is exactly correct.
Look, even Seb Gorka and I were talking about this at one point in time.
He goes, you're talking about taking the people with the badges and the guns.
They have the legal authority to go out, knock down your door, and put you in handcuffs and drag you off.
Okay? Legal arrest authority.
And then you add the intelligence capabilities that have been associated with every single secret police that's ever existed.
In America, we didn't have that ability to get raw intel like that without asking anybody's permission.
The FBI has both access and they have the ability to just do it on their own.
They used to have to petition the NSA to be able to say, hey, we'd like person number one.
We'd like U.S. person number two.
Can you please unredact those?
alex jones
How many agencies of the DEA has it?
kyle seraphin
They do.
And this is all because they've expanded the definitions of what they consider to be terrorists.
They've expanded what FISA-702 can be used for, drug cartels.
There's a real danger here.
And this is kind of a fun little mind game because they actually said now the cartels are going to be considered foreign terrorist organizations, right?
And they already have access to 702 by using that tool.
They can actually go after the cartels.
But does it mean that somebody who is funding Through buying drugs on the street?
If you are buying and it is sourced back to a cartel, are you now in materials-supported terrorism?
alex jones
But then what's that rule, too, that it's so many people out, so it's basically everybody anyways.
kyle seraphin
You get two hops.
So that was the question.
There's all kinds of articles out there talking about two hops.
So what happens is, let's say, FISA-702 is meant to do foreign adversaries in foreign places.
Drug cartel guy in Mexico.
The minute he comes to the United States, we're no longer able to collect on him using 702.
You'd need a proper FISA.
Same thing.
Russian spy in Russia.
You can collect on him with 702.
He lands at Dulles.
We now have to turn that off.
But then you can also two-hop the contacts of that Russian.
Let's say the Russian is talking to, let's say, a foreign journalist or somebody who's in the embassy in Washington, D.C. You can hop to them.
And that person, let's say, reaches out to you in Twitter DMs or wants to go out there and send you an email.
Now we can hop to you because you are now in contact with that person.
So we have a very broad...
alex jones
A giant fishing expedition.
kyle seraphin
This is at circles upon circles that spin off more and more investigations.
alex jones
So if you had to guess, this is speculation, the Boston field office, 12, 13-year secret investigation, obviously not the only one we know of others, and the NSA stopped predating that.
Was this a dragnet, or what were they looking for?
kyle seraphin
This is the first whistleblower activity that I ever did.
It goes back to 2017.
I went to my boss and I say, I see what we're doing, but I don't know why.
Why do we have people investigating folks when there's no allegation or information that there's any criminality that they're involved in?
And so my boss, who is the assistant special agent in charge of counterintelligence in Washington, D.C., he looked at me and he goes, we just know more stuff about them.
And I went, well, what does that mean?
And he goes, well, then we have more information.
And I go, no, that's what happens when you get information.
You get more information.
What are we doing with this stuff?
That's the question.
I don't understand what we do here.
And he said, we just know more things.
And the scariest thing is, and I heard you say it accurately the other day, if you get enough information, at some point in time, you might uncover criminality.
You might be looking for counterterrorism resources.
You might be trying to find out whether or not some guy is a jihadi, and you end up finding out that he's involved in child pornography 20 years later.
You might be looking at Alex Jones because you think he's a white supremacist, whatever the hell that means, and you say these things, but then you eventually find out that maybe there's some tax fraud involved.
And so they have an ability.
alex jones
Or they use that to make it up.
Because, I mean, here's a microcosm.
kyle seraphin
Just giving the example that they can find something.
The one I always use is, let's say you happen to have somebody who dropped an illegal machine gun at your house.
Or maybe it was on their trust.
Maybe it's a legally owned NFA item.
And they left it with you and you're not on the trust.
And we find out about that because they're watching your text messages.
They have a FISA on you and they can see that.
Then they go and they raid Alex Jones' house and you end up like that guy in Little Rock who gets shot in the head at 6 in the morning because someone's coming through your door because they know exactly what you're looking at.
alex jones
Well, let's expand.
I mean, here's an example.
There's that famous Perry Mason moment in the show trial where I was already found guilty for Sandy Hook by the judge telling him all these lies about me.
And the lawyer gets up and goes, you told me, you know, that there weren't any text messages about Sandy Hook.
And there really weren't any of any note except me talking to my lawyer about it.
That was true.
But I meant, like, when they signed the thing, yeah, I'm not even talking about it.
kyle seraphin
Right. It's a privilege.
alex jones
And the lawyer from Connecticut sends the Texas lawyer that, his secretary sends the whole thing to them.
They don't even tell them about it.
Then they Perry Mason me, and I just go, I told you, I gave them all my phones.
And that's why you have that.
I didn't lie.
They tried to get...
Guera, who didn't do it, to indict me for perjury.
And I had the perfect answer.
It was true.
I said, I told you I gave them all the phones.
And they went through it and gave me.
But they just gave them the raw phone.
And what they had about Sandy here was me talking to my lawyers about it.
And they had some Joe Rogan text about it.
And they tried to subpoena him and harassed him.
And it was, you know, Joe just said, yeah, you got to get over this thing.
I know it's bull.
And then it's like, oh, look, you lied about that too.
No, it was nothing substantive about them, because they said Sandy Hook and a list of things.
Sandy Hook, this list of hundreds of things.
It wasn't any of that.
kyle seraphin
It's an obscure way of doing a parallel construction, essentially.
They're trying to germ up a perjury charge, and especially if it's privileged information you're talking.
I don't have all the details, but I'll just take it over what you said right there.
If you're talking to your attorney, that's supposed to go to an agent.
Let's say they get all your phones, and they dump it, and they've got all the data there.
They're supposed to say, okay, well, this is protected.
So there's a thing that's called a taint team.
The taint team gets...
Tainted with information they're not allowed to have.
And they're not allowed to be on the prosecution.
They're not allowed to be witnesses.
They're not allowed to say anything about what they saw.
Because they're supposed to be a referee.
But can you imagine how troubling this is?
I mean, honestly, I've always thought this was problematic.
You got people that are supposed to be honorable.
Folks who are going to obey their oath.
That they're going to be able to lose their life in the line of duty.
That they're going to lose their job if the wrong thing comes up.
That they won't do it.
And then those people are supposed to read files and decide, okay, this is in and this is out, and I'm never going to go and talk in the break room to my buddy saying, you know, by the way, he was, in fact, total secret police.
alex jones
But the thing was, I literally dug up all my old phones.
The lawyers came, plugged them in, took it.
I said, okay, you guys, discovery, anything on that, give it to them.
I never even talk about it.
Here it is.
It's only me talking about the suits.
And then it doesn't match any of the search parameters.
And then they try to make me think I'm guilty.
I go, I'm not, because I wasn't.
Then they give the contents of the phone to the Southern Property Law Center to publish them.
And then there's nothing even in there.
But it's just total horror.
So this is, but that's what the FBI guy said, currently CIA Oblevis.
He said, well, we couldn't find anything criminal.
We've had an investigation.
He says that.
So we went and got them to do this suit to get him that way.
And it's just like, all right there.
Doesn't that sound like a serious conspiracy against rights?
kyle seraphin
It's a serious problem.
That's what happens when somebody has decided what the outcome is going to be.
And then they're going to go back it up.
This is the problem with being an intelligence agency.
This is why you cannot have an FBI that also has the same sort of intelligence focus on it.
alex jones
And that's why in 47 they said at the CIA it wasn't supposed to operate domestically.
kyle seraphin
It is probably 60-40 or maybe 70-30 when it comes to the number of people that are in senior management that have time doing intel work.
That's really problematic.
But imagine this.
When you're doing intel, you're not burdened by proof.
And you also feel entitled to get information that the other person doesn't know that you're getting.
Like if I do surveillance on you, it's kind of a cat and mouse game.
I'm watching you.
You could be looking for me.
We're playing kind of games.
I have different cars following you.
Maybe I put a plane up.
Fine. You have the possibility of discovering me.
Imagine if somebody writes a FISA warrant and they go out there.
This is similar to like a Title III.
But in Title III, we're actually doing criminal prosecution, which means we need to be probable cause.
Now imagine you go in front of a secret court and you just lie about it.
And no one's ever going to find out about it because everything behind it is classified.
alex jones
It's even worse.
I want to close and plug your podcast, all the work you're doing, and anything else you want to add.
But I don't feel sorry for myself.
It pisses me off for everybody and my future generations, my children.
I mean, literally, they have tried to indict me that we know of five, six times.
And then they put Owen in prison and now they're pointing lasers at him because, you know, the bad guys are manipulating the system.
And all I'm saying is to the crooks in the system that have been stealing trillions of dollars, I believe in God.
I know God's real.
You don't believe it because you're stupid.
Karma is real.
You reap what you sow.
You guys are in a lot of trouble.
For me, it's not about vengeance.
You need to go to prison.
All of you, it's about survival.
And Trump and all of us need to take the gloves off.
Trump knows that.
It's about justice, but it's beyond that for me.
This is about survival.
I don't have an instinct to bow in the face of tyranny.
I have the instinct to fight.
And thank God for Kyle Seraf and other people that have courage because you've done so much good.
How do people find your podcast?
kyle seraphin
They can find it on Rumble.
It's Rumble.com slash Kyle Serafin.
They can find me on X. We stream there every day as well.
It's at Kyle Serafin.
Same thing for YouTube until they cancel me.
It's at Kyle Serafin.
And then Spotify is also.
We're free download there.
We have three sponsors every single show, so you're not going to get a ton of ads.
We do about 70 minutes of content.
alex jones
Awesome. You're going to be on in a couple of minutes.
You're going on right now.
You're working hard.
We appreciate you.
In closing, ladies and gentlemen, this was a big interview.
We're going to cut out all the key topics.
It's all important and put it up on X. We're getting hit with a lot of fake claims and a lot of this and that to try to suppress the numbers.
Get these articles, get the videos, get the reports, and flood the zone with this.
Trump is going forward.
The FBI leadership is going forward.
They are doing a massive investigation.
They do have 14 terabytes, probably more.
It is happening.
They have hundreds of new victims.
It's being handed to the field offices.
Hallelujah. Thank you, God.
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Combine, that's who's really running things, not Joe Biden the puppet, Mr. Autopin.
I mean, this is really amazing.
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