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May 25, 2015 - Alex Jones Show
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The radio show discusses various topics including CPS taking healthy children away due to financial incentives, Senator Nancy Schaefer's death and its connection with criticism of CPS corruption, college student suing her school for free speech restrictions, NATO's involvement in arming ISIS- linked militants in Libya, Israel opposing nuclear deal between U.S and Iran, Saudi Arabia allowing Israeli jets into its airspace to conduct attacks on Iran, Gary Haven's Christian movies promoting patriotism through upcoming films like Amerigeddon, discussions on gold investments for IRAs, body armor, water filtration systems, tax debt resolution, wireless technology dangers, political climate and efforts to shut down conservative news outlets. Additionally, the show features Ron Finley advocating for community gardening as a means of resisting corporate control over food production while emphasizing the importance of human activity interaction through trading with neighbors instead of growing all food independently.

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You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.
I remember when, I remember, I remember when I lost my mind.
There was something so pleasant about that place.
Even your emotions have an echo in so much space.
And when you're out there without care, yeah, I was out of touch.
But it wasn't because I didn't know enough.
I just...
Child Protective Services.
jon bowne
The name says it all.
CPS claims that they are out to protect children from abusive and neglectful parents, but is that just a ruse in order to take healthy children away from good families?
To place them in the foster care system where they receive bounties from the federal government?
That's right, the average reimbursement to state and local government for each child taken into foster care is about $6,000 a month.
The foster care provider receives about $600 a month of that.
Therefore, each one of these kids forced into foster care are worth approximately $5,000 to CPS.
unidentified
Two foster parents had criminal records, a son living there with multiple felonies, and a convicted sex offender visiting and sometimes caring for the children she refused to arrange an adoption.
Her CPS supervisors responded with this memo recommending the adoption should proceed quickly.
Our theory is that the basis for this is the tie to the federal money.
That every time a child is not placed in a home, the state of Kentucky through its cabinet is losing federal money.
Child Protective Services in Pennsylvania was at her doorstep taking her one-day-old baby because they thought Liz was abusing drugs.
But what the hospital didn't consider more closely was poppy seeds.
We reached out to CPS.
They say they can't specifically comment on this case because of privacy law.
But we wanted to know what the rules are and what rights parents have.
CPS says we conduct a risk assessment of the child's safety and rely heavily on the direction of health care providers.
And now Anna and Alex find themselves fighting for Sammy's return and for their rights as parents.
nancy schaefer
Where there's children, there are pedophiles.
unidentified
Uh, you know, they're in schools and they're in churches and they're everywhere where they can get their hands on children.
nancy schaefer
So we know that that's true.
And it's got to be brought to an end.
unidentified
It's got to be completely exposed for what it is.
nancy schaefer
And in my opinion, it needs to completely be, uh, completely be dissolved.
I don't see any good left in child protective services.
unidentified
Senator Nancy Schaefer and her husband Bruce were found dead today at their Habersham County home.
The bodies of former State Senator Nancy Schaefer and her husband Bruce were found today at their Habersham County home.
Investigators say both had been shot.
alex jones
Preliminarily looks to be a murder-suicide.
unidentified
The GBI has six agents on the scene, two crime scene specialists.
There will be a thorough investigation.
jon bowne
CPS adversary Senator Nancy Schaefer and her husband's life met a very abrupt end.
There are far too many oddities surrounding her life for it to have been anything but an assassination due to her outspoken crusade to uncover one of the prime child smuggling areas in the United States, Atlanta, Georgia.
Bruce was retired and the couple didn't appear to be in any type of dire financial crisis.
Friends who knew the couple best state that Bruce would simply not have had the capability to kill his wife.
Nancy was actively exposing corruption within the Department of Family and Child Services, including actions by the DFCS director in the county where she lived.
Nancy's husband Bruce was highly supportive of Nancy's work for decades and would have had little or no reason to suddenly try to kill her at such a critical juncture in her career.
alex jones
Imagine you're a happy family living in Central Texas in a suburb of Austin, Round Rock, and one night you decide to smoke some marijuana after your two-year-old daughter's gone to bed while you watch a movie, something over a hundred million Americans are estimated to do every single week.
A good secret police neighbor smells the marijuana, calls the police, and they come with the CPS and take your two-year-old happy daughter, who'd never been in the hospital, and never been sick, and never been beaten up.
You go for weekly visits.
That's just a few minutes from a special report that aired last night on the Nightly News dealing with the CPS connection to pedophile rings and tying it into the 10 children being taken in Kentucky.
The full video interviews on InfoWars.com.
Stay with us.
rob dew
The latest example of liberal free speech oppression is brought to you by Kit Daniels in the article, Campus Police Intimidates Student Over Her Anti-Obama and Pro-Gun Signs.
A college student is suing her school after three campus cops and an administrator ordered her not to carry an anti-Obama sign and a pro-gun sign on campus without special permission.
Nicole Sanders, a student at Blinn College in Brenham, Texas, was recently demonstrating with the signs when she was told she needed special permission for them and had to stay in the college's free speech zone.
I needed to fill out a form stating what I'm doing, where I'm doing it, who's involved, and what outcome we're expecting, she said.
We have to wait until four administrators sign it.
In response, Sanders has filed a lawsuit against Blinn College stating its policies and their enforcement are unconstitutional.
This story is eerily similar to an incident at California Polytech earlier this year in which school officials were also requiring students who engage in First Amendment activities on campus to apply for a free speech permit.
You can find more stories like these at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
Rob Due reporting for InfoWars Nightly News.
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unidentified
Is the U.S.
involved with any procuring of weapons, transfer of weapons, buying, selling, anyhow transferring weapons to Turkey out of Libya?
alex jones
To Turkey?
unidentified
It is a big idea.
A new world order.
How is it that this organization is so well-funded, so organized?
Islamic State-linked militants have gained a stronger foothold in Libya, seizing new economically vital areas of the country.
The leader of ISIS in Libya is none other than Abdel-Hakim al-Hajj, and of course he was armed to the teeth by NATO.
A world in which there is the very real prospect of a new world order.
The Russians say they're negotiating with North Korea to hold joint military exercises.
Kim Jong-un and Vladimir Putin teaming up, creating an ominous alliance against the United States.
Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is aggressively opposing the nuclear deal that the U.S.
government is negotiating with Iran.
Saudi Arabia is apparently prepared to allow Israeli jets into its airspace to conduct attacks on Iran.
We have an unprecedented opportunity to build a new world order.
george soros
I set up a foundation in Ukraine and played an important part in events now.
unidentified
Ukraine is set to receive the first tranche of an international monetary fund aid package.
We had brokered a deal to transition power in Ukraine.
Vladimir Putin is on the move.
Only when this transformation is complete will we be able to take full measure of the opportunities presented by this new and involving world order.
It's known as the Bilderberg Group.
Could their objective be world domination?
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, we're live well into the second hour broadcasting worldwide.
Our guests will be with us until the bottom of the next hour, or until the very end of the next hour, if they want.
I don't want to exhaust them.
Gary Haven is a successful grassroots entrepreneur, the most successful according to Forbes.
Uh, franchise in history, Curves.
He's retired from that a few years ago.
Mike Norris, successful filmmaker, Christian filmmaker, son of Chuck Norris, you know, the firstborn, you know, the guy in there helping his dad launch the whole legend.
He's going to get into that and so much more, his view on the world today.
Gary Haven, Mr. Haven started Curves.
And the reason my memory messed up, I was trying to think, where did you start originally?
gary heavin
In Harlingen, Texas.
alex jones
In Harlingen, Texas.
And now you've made a major movie with Mr. Norris over here, that I was honored to be in, that's coming out in the future.
We're going to talk about that.
Tell us about the film and then tell us about yourself and then Mike Norris over here.
mike norris
Mr. Haven, all you.
gary heavin
Well, I retired, sold my company a couple years ago and was looking for something to do.
And influencing the culture in a positive way was something that I felt I had a duty to do.
And, you know, people don't take the time.
They're busy.
They don't want to watch the news or really invest in reading about what's going on.
But they like to be entertained.
And if you can entertain people while you teach them something.
I just thought it was a great idea.
And Mike and I have been friends for a long time.
Mike is a real famous movie director who's done about 20 different films.
And so I came to him one day and said, hey, I got a great idea.
You know, let's make some movies together and let's influence the culture in a positive way while we entertain people.
And the first movie we made was, it's out and it's available now, it's called Mission Air, and you can go and find that information about that from Pureflix, which was the distributor for God's Not Dead, for example.
Go to their website in Christian bookstores and you can get Mission Air.
alex jones
And by the way, these Christian films now are bigger than a lot of Hollywood films.
I mean, The Passion of the Christ is an example.
mike norris
Absolutely.
I'm sorry, Gary.
There's a number of films that were released this year with a faith-based message that have done phenomenal.
So it's really great to see the culture actually starting to change and view this material that we're putting out.
So it's very exciting.
alex jones
It's voting with your dollars.
I mean, this is how you really change the culture.
mike norris
Absolutely.
But it wasn't until about nine months ago that Gary had this idea for another film that really kind of ramped everything up to a whole other level, and that's our next film, Amerigeddon.
alex jones
Now, Gary Haven, I should have gone over your bio a little bit better and not butchered your name here live on radio, but getting to know you has just really been amazing.
Your insight into government, all the people you've been talking to federally and at the state level, you've learned a lot of amazing stuff.
And it's wild to know the plot of your upcoming film That's already been shot and is now being edited to see that then it ties into Jade Helm and it ties into this very theme that America is so concerned about.
gary heavin
Yeah, Merrick Gedden was an idea that I had.
I felt that people needed to learn about power and about what was going on in the world.
The mainstream media is owned, 98% of it, by six corporations.
They're scripted.
They stay on message.
And so people are not getting the truth out there.
And Alex, I want to commend you.
You are a... Oh, please don't.
No, I tell you, the courage and also your gift to articulate these difficult concepts.
Things like vaccinations you were talking about earlier.
You know, people are not going to get the truth from the mainstream media.
You know how much money the pharmaceutical companies spend on mainstream media?
And to think that they don't control the message with all that money would be naive.
So someone like you can articulate it beautifully in a way people can understand.
alex jones
You can do it better than I. In fact, your degree is in health.
Why don't you give us your take on vaccines?
You were just telling me about them earlier.
gary heavin
Well, vaccines are a very concerning thing, and I have a five-month-old granddaughter.
You know, and at two months, this eight-pound child was scheduled to get this cocktail of vaccines, whooping cough among them.
It's something that is really concerning.
What's in these vaccines?
Do they have mercury?
Do they have aluminum?
Do they have the material of the tissue the vaccines were grown on from rhesus monkeys?
That DNA is in these vaccines.
You know, I'm not saying don't get vaccines, but I'm saying think about it.
Think critically before you allow the establishment to inject into the vein of your eight-pound child a cocktail of vaccines.
People need to take responsibility for themselves.
They need to think about it, because the system has been monetized.
And so vaccines is a great example of the need for Americans, for people like us, to just think critically.
alex jones
Let's talk about the new film that's in production, when it's coming out, as much as you can tell us about it, the title.
mike norris
Well, what we can tell you now is the film's called Marageddon.
We're looking for about a November release date.
We are in post-production right now.
Gosh, I wish we had a clip to show.
gary heavin
Yeah, a clip that might include one of the stars of the show.
He might be sitting here with us here today.
mike norris
Do we have a clip?
gary heavin
Let's see if we've got that clip available.
alex jones
Wait, you guys are surprising me.
I don't even know this, Mr. Gray, that we don't know what you're up to.
Stockpiling food, weapons, fuel.
The National Defense Authorization Act is there to stop domestic terrorist threats to this country and people like you.
gary heavin
I am an American.
I am a patriot.
You, sir, are nothing but a traitor.
unidentified
I've never seen anything like that in my life.
alex jones
That man's a threat to this country.
unidentified
That old rant will be all over the news tonight.
You must understand this plays into our hands.
The American news media has our narrative.
And in that narrative, Charlie Gray is perfectly playing the role of right-wing extremist.
The stigma of that label will stop up the use of the American public faster than any propaganda we can fashion.
alex jones
By the way, you guys, we didn't plan any of this.
And I just can't believe that you guys snuck that in.
It's so good.
That looks better than the big giant blockbuster movies.
I wish I could have lighting like that for my show.
Man, that looks good.
And it sounds good.
mike norris
Yeah.
You know, after you guys called and invited us on, Mr. Haven says, get a clip together.
And I go, yes, sir.
And so we just kind of put that together just to give the audience a little feel of, you know, the bad politicians, the bad guy and our hero in the movie.
alex jones
Well, folks, if you just joined us, we have with us two amazing individuals, Mike Norris and Gary Haven, in studio.
And the new film is coming out in November.
And of course, it'll be in quite a few theaters.
It becomes a hit in theaters.
It'll then go nationwide into thousands of screens.
If something like this, and believe me, I've seen the script, I've been in the movie, gets out to the public with this whole climate, I mean, could you guys have imagined we'd be talking about Jade Helm and all this right when your movie's getting ready to come out?
Because for the folks that don't know, we don't give the plot away!
gary heavin
Yeah, well, we'll tell a little bit about kind of the theme of it.
You know, I saw this coming and felt like we needed to warn people.
We need to educate them while we entertain them.
And it was kind of consistent with our message.
So we went from the Christian movie to the political realm.
And by the way, you play an evil senator who is debating with me in front of the Senate hearing.
And you were particularly evil.
alex jones
Well, I tell you, you guys were going to have somebody else play the role and I guess you moved to another position about two weeks before you said, hey, do you want to do this?
I said, sure.
And then like about four or five days before I get the script that had been changed.
And I think I did an OK job, but not as good as you guys did.
mike norris
You really are good.
I mean, just the dynamics of the both of you.
We're all on the same side here, but what's fun is to go into a movie and you get to play a crooked politician.
alex jones
Well, I tell you, after we did about 10 takes of that, I started really not liking Gary.
It was weird.
gary heavin
It was weird.
mike norris
Well, it was actually 14 takes, Alex.
There's a lot of footage.
alex jones
Wow.
mike norris
And when this is all over, we'll pull out the fun footage and we'll just have a little party together.
alex jones
Oh my gosh, it's amazing.
Listen, I want to come back from break here in a moment and get back into the film, but give us a sneak peek.
Gary, how much of this can we get into?
gary heavin
Well, the movie's based, kind of the byline is a true story that hasn't happened yet.
And we're really seeing that play out right now.
One of the scenes, for example, in fact with you, was a take from a conversation I had with my congressman, where I challenged him why he voted for the National Defense Authorization Act.
And I said to him, do you realize it suspends the Fifth Amendment?
alex jones
Hold on, you told me this story over dinner and it was amazing.
We're going to come back and tell this story, the inside baseball of this.
Because you wanted to make this film, from what you told me, because you kept going around warning people and then getting this response.
Wow, it's amazing.
And then coming up, we're going to get into Chuck Norris, Steve McQueen, all your latest films.
Mike Norris is here.
That's right, the son of Chuck Norris.
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Alex Jones here back live.
You just joined us on the radio, on TV.
You can see us here in the studio with my good friends who have produced a new film that is so incredibly...
Professional.
Gary Haven and Mike Norris.
And then I want to get into the Steve McQueen stories.
I'm a big Chuck Norris fan.
I watched him as a kid, but more so his politics, being a real constitutionalist, a big fan of 1776, a big supporter of George Washington, reading his columns.
Uh, in WorldNetDaily.com in the last decade or so, however long it's been, have made me really get into the mind of Chuck Norris and see what a one-of-a-kind guy he is.
And then to meet his son, who's a listener and a patriot as well.
And then to meet Gary and just to, and then the stories you told me about people in government who are awake, people that aren't, you know, telling me what a real deal.
Governor Abbott is, as well.
I've talked to a lot of folks that know him, that have worked for him before he was even in government.
They say he's a real Christian man, a great guy, really cares.
He's suing the government over the power plant shutdowns.
He's fighting to secure our border.
I think we're really lucky to have him as a governor.
I'm just giving a prelude, this is a short segment, to what we're going to be talking about today.
But listen, don't pause for me.
I mean, I loved having that two-hour dinner with you guys where you were just, just, just stream of consciousness.
You're the guys that need a radio show fighting the New World Order, but hell, you've got movies fighting the New World Order.
Let's get back, because when we come back from break, we're going to play that clip again.
I got blindsided by that.
I want to see that again.
Tell us about the new film, how people support it, and more of the plot, because when they hear the plot and understand this is not a B-movie, folks, I mean, you spent big money on this.
You know, you've got hundreds of millions of dollars.
You spent a lot of money on this.
You've got an incredible director.
And, Mike, I've seen a lot of your films, and they're powerful, because, you know, my kids mainly watch Christian films.
And you're one of the top directors.
But, my gosh, you knocked it.
I mean, what?
That looks better than Steven Spielberg movies when they show Congress.
How did you do that?
mike norris
Right here.
Gary, I, you know, I do not take lightly anything that Gary asks of me.
I have so much respect for Gary and his wife Diane, that when this challenge was brought on to do this film, I was in, let's do it.
But boy, I had no idea what I was getting into.
Once production started, things were happening left and right and decisions having to be made.
And for this film to come out the way it did, with the message that it's presenting, I agree with Gary.
This is a God thing, that this is happening, to get out, to get people to open their eyes to what's really happening in the world.
We need this alternative media, and you were talking about my father.
Well, the first thing he told me, tell Alex I said hi, I'm a huge fan.
So, just really excited about Amerigeddon.
alex jones
Absolutely.
Shifting gears, we're going to come back and talk more about Amerigeddon and how people can support it and make this international huge hit that it needs to be to really educate people.
Because we're dominating news media.
The Liberty Movement is able to counter CNN, MSNBC, but the real brainwashing, as you guys were saying during the break, Is in the music, is in Hollywood, is in the culture.
That's where they're really getting everybody.
And the fact that more and more, not just Christian, but Patriot film could become the new mega-genre that could basically unseat this and counter their narrative, and people are hungry for it.
So it's not like we're pushing a boulder uphill.
We're at the top of a hill, about to push it downhill at the globalists, in my view.
mike norris
I agree 100%.
And I really have to, once again, hand it to Gary.
Personally, I wouldn't have been bold enough on my own to make this film at that time.
But with Gary saying, this is what we're gonna do, this is the money we've got to make it, let's go get this done.
I jumped in both feet.
And like I said, it was a tough shoot.
Getting this cast together, getting you involved in it.
alex jones
By the way, talk about the cast!
You've got some huge people in this!
mike norris
It's an interesting, eclectic cast.
We have Diane Ladd, three-time Academy Award nominated actress.
She was an Easy Rider, Chinatown.
Anna Lynn McCord, Dina Meyer.
Alex Jones!
alex jones
No, no, no.
mike norris
No, but it really was.
It really was perfect, because I just had this idea.
I go, gosh.
And I'm a listener.
I'm a patriot.
I mean, every night, Infowars.com, that is what I listen to all night long.
I should put up with him.
I go to Infowars.
So to have you play Such an evil character.
I just thought it was... I loved it.
And you were great.
alex jones
It was kind of fun to try to get in that mindset of just ridiculing and stuff.
It's crazy.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
But it was beautiful.
alex jones
We're going to come back, play the intro, get into that, and then, gentlemen, I'm putting it on autopilot.
I mean, I want to go back to that Mexican food restaurant.
And you know, I want to just talk about the politics and then look at Jade Helm and then we're going to get in the next hour into the really juicy stuff.
Because let me tell you, a lot of stuff you were telling me is not known about Chuck Norris.
mike norris
None of it.
alex jones
I hope he doesn't come get us.
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We're on the march.
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gary heavin
I am an American.
I am a patriot.
You, sir, are nothing but a traitor.
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alex jones
That man's a threat to this country.
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You must understand this plays into our hands.
The American news media has our narrative.
And in that narrative, Charlie Gray is perfectly playing the role of right-wing extremist.
The stigma of that label will stop up the use of the American public faster than any propaganda we can fashion.
alex jones
And that's a clip from the upcoming film that is going to be coming out in what, November?
mike norris
Yeah, roughly November.
alex jones
Wow.
And is there a website for it yet?
mike norris
No, right now everything is about getting the film done.
We're in VFX right now.
First cut's pretty much done.
We just want to give you a little taste of You?
alex jones
Well, it looks really good.
I remember seeing the monitors and how, because I've been in some other pretty big films, but like Keanu Reeves and other folks, some Linkletter films, two of them, and quite a few other little movies.
I never really sought it out, but people say, hey, will you do this cameo?
Will you come do this?
Because pretty much just playing myself.
The reason I like this was it was doing something different.
That's fun.
mike norris
Exactly, exactly.
alex jones
You had it good though.
You're just playing yourself.
gary heavin
It was kind of easy.
Being angry at the system and how they're threatening our freedom is a pretty thing to get... And again, this is Gary Haven.
alex jones
We've got Mike Norris here.
I tell you, I mean, your dad's been on the show before via phone, and then he came out once when we were trying to stop a standoff in East Texas, and he helped kind of diffuse that with the Grays.
So, I mean, I know your dad, and then I was, I mean, I knew he was a listener even 15 years ago, but when he's been on, he goes, no, I really am a routine listener, so I'm just so flattered.
But it's how many other people are aware.
It's not like I taught Chuck Norris anything.
He was already a patriot before I was born.
But what do you make with Jade Helm?
Because I don't want to give away the film, but it almost parallels this.
What do you make of Jade Helm and Senator Cruz?
And Representative Gohmert, and Governor Abbott, and all these other prominent people saying no.
And Chuck Norris.
No, we don't trust Obama.
We don't think this is a takeover, but there shouldn't be this major domestic role.
We know the military is in the news, training to take on the patriots.
gary heavin
Gary, yeah, this really is an area I've spent a lot of time.
You know, being retired, it gives me about six hours a day to read and to stay up on things and so I've enjoyed getting to know that.
Now my company does business in 90 countries, so I've got a neat worldview of events.
Ukraine, for example, if you follow the script that the mainstream media has been promoting on Ukraine, You would think that Putin's this bad guy who's come into Crimea and taken it over.
This script is just all wrong.
The United States spent six billion dollars through the State Department, Victoria Nuland, to overthrow the elected government of Ukraine.
And this is all about moneyed interest.
It's about bankers' interest.
It's another war where we're going to send our kids and our treasure to go protect the assets of Monsanto and the oil companies and the central bankers.
And I was having this discussion at dinner with the governor and Ted Cruz, Senator Ted Cruz, a few weeks ago.
And I was actually vetting Ted Cruz.
You know, I was really hopeful.
We've got a guy that's going to stand up to these moneyed interests that are controlling our government.
And I was really hopeful that he was on our side.
Now, I knew that Ted Cruz's wife was the vice president for Goldman Sachs, and also that she's a member of the Council of Foreign Relations.
And, you know, that puts him under suspicion.
It wasn't a discussion.
In fact, I'll tell you how it went.
He kind of talked to the six or eight people at the table about why we need to be there, why we need to send our kids there, and I kept my mouth shut.
When it was my turn to speak, I started the conversation like this.
I said, Senator, I know you're a Harvard Law School graduate who's argued in front of the Supreme Court.
I may regret what I'm about to say.
And I gave the true view of the Ukraine over about 10 minutes.
In fact, it was so heated, I turned to the governor and I said, are you going to invite me back?
And he did.
And I think he got to hear the truth in front of the two of us challenging each other.
And I got to tell you, I won the debate with Ted Cruz because I had the truth on my side and I was fully informed.
alex jones
That's the one thing I don't like about him is that he is supporting starting a war with the Russians.
It doesn't mean Putin is a good guy.
It's just that you don't overthrow an elected government and put neo-Nazis in charge so Joe Biden's son can run a gas company.
gary heavin
Exactly.
This thing stinks so bad.
It's a great example of the control the mainstream media has on the information out there and on who controls the mainstream media.
The American people, again, it goes back to critical thinking.
You can't just think these people are stupid.
You know, going and poking a stick at a nuclear power, Russia, is just not a good idea.
And yet they're doing it in Syria, they're doing it in Iran, they're doing it in the Ukraine.
And you always ask the question, cuo bono?
Who's benefiting from this?
If you ask that question, you can get to the bottom of a lot of things.
alex jones
That's right, and these aren't generals, these are bankers that think they're invincible and insulated because they've got 15 helicopters.
No, a nuclear war breaks out, it's over!
gary heavin
It's insane.
And this all comes from the Wolfowitz Doctrine, which came out in the 90s from Paul Wolfowitz, the Secretary of Defense, when he said that we have to maintain hegemony.
We have to be the most powerful, the only powerful country on the planet.
And if any other countries begin to threaten our power, we have to annihilate them.
And I'll tell you what, we don't have the means.
We should not be trying to dominate the world It enforced our views on the world.
alex jones
We're not even putting American views.
We're trying to make Russia teach 5-year-olds about gay marriage.
Putin's saying, you're not Christian.
We're being lectured by Vladimir Putin who's trying to put Christianity back in schools.
We've taken it out.
This is really getting upside down.
gary heavin
It's crazy.
And again, you know, this is happening on such a large scale that our voices are these quiet cries in the night.
But truth is a powerful thing.
We have truth on our side, and we have to have the courage to speak it.
I believe I was given the ability, the opportunity to speak truth to power.
Whether it's Senator Chet Cruz or whether it's the Governor.
I spent nine hours with George W. Bush.
alex jones
This is Gary Haven speaking, the founder of the Curves, one of the most successful, the most successful according to Forbes franchise in history.
He's made billions of dollars and he's here now trying to fight the globalists.
Go ahead.
gary heavin
Yeah.
alex jones
You know, and I think... You were meeting with George Bush.
gary heavin
I took him to Haiti in my aircraft.
Four hours there, four hours back.
Just him and I sitting talking.
So I've had the opportunity to really speak truth to power on so many different levels.
I was a major Republican donor because I thought that by supporting conservative Republicans that I could influence good government.
Well, I've given up on that.
The Republican Party has given themselves over through the establishment.
alex jones
Well look how they're pushing the TPP right now that they want to let Congress see.
They're helping Obama beat the Republicans.
It's incredible.
gary heavin
That's a great example.
And again, this is where you and I have a responsibility.
You know, this Trans-Pacific Partnership is not available to the general public.
It's being kept secret.
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gary heavin
We think from leaks that corporations are going to be given power to sue governments when governments interfere with their profitability.
Well, and we're not allowed to see this as witnesses.
The American people should be up in arms over the audacity of our government.
And I tell you, the Republicans are pushing this as hard as Obama is.
A set of laws is going to totally change our society.
We're not even allowed to look at it.
Where is the outrage over our loss of freedoms over this issue?
It's, it's, the whole thing right now is crazy.
But this Jade Helm, in our movie, talks about things like the National Defense Authorization Act, which the Republican Party supported, that gives the President the ability to declare martial law for any reason, economic or otherwise, without approval of Congress.
And under martial law, That's right.
alex jones
Those executive orders and PDDs are all in the books.
It's been in the news.
You can just search Obama signs executive order to take over entire economy and during any emergency, including economic.
They put internet kill switches in.
They've got NDAA.
It's all there.
They say their main enemies, Christians and veterans and gun owners.
I mean, this is crazy.
And Chuck Norris reads it.
And Louie Gohmert reads it.
And Senator Cruz reads it.
And Ron Paul reads it.
And you read it.
And it's not.
gary heavin
I mean, we're just telling people they're building this huge Well, our movie was a chance to provide an entertaining venue where we demonstrate and educate what 13603 Executive Order actually does.
Where the President can take all of your resources.
I'm a farmer and rancher.
They can come and take my tractors.
They can come and take my property, my land.
They can come and take me and force me to work without wages.
And if you read 13603, it's very, very clear.
Well, we talk about this in the movie and then we demonstrate it.
We show how the UN is going to side with the American Army and come in and arrest dissidents.
alex jones
And by the way, that's, as you know, been in the Washington Post that they're going to use UN troops during civil disturbance in America.
gary heavin
Yeah, it's all out there.
alex jones
I mean, we read, you're a billionaire company guy, a smart guy that's founded companies, you've made all these top films, I've built my own media system, it's not like we're total idiots and we just make stuff up.
I mean, it's all right here.
I mean, this is what's going on, and the thing is, it's not like we're being conquered by the Romans or something, and they're going to put aqueducts in.
We're being conquered, I'm not saying the Romans were good, by the globalists that are anti-human, Malthusian, exterminist, basically Satanist.
And so that's the real problem, is we're being conquered by some really nasty people.
gary heavin
You know, there's three things that people ought to get a hold of.
The first thing is that the power in Washington has been bought and paid for by moneyed interest.
There is no representation of the people.
And I can prove this.
Princeton University just finished a study and analyzed what influence do the average individual voters have on the policies of the U.S.
government.
And Princeton University said zero.
They said that the average voter, the average person, has no interest.
alex jones
That's a special interest coup d'etat.
gary heavin
Yep.
And the interest is the people that provide the money to Washington.
And we're talking about the pharmaceutical industry, the industrial security complex, we're talking about the bank.
alex jones
Oh, now you're anti-troops.
Oh, Eisenhower won too.
Oh, I guess he's bad.
gary heavin
Sorry.
Well, you know, mentioning that, I think the greatest thing we can do to support our troops is to keep them out of wars that they have no business being in.
alex jones
Exactly.
Why did we arm Al-Qaeda, the Free Syrian Army, now they're ISIS, the CIA did, now the Army has to go fight them?
gary heavin
Good question.
So we've got to recognize that we have no influence in Washington.
Everybody's been bought and paid for.
And I've spoken this to my Senators, and I've spoken this to my Congressmen.
alex jones
What did Ted Cruz say when you said that?
gary heavin
Like the guy, but I've vetted him and I don't trust him.
I believe that he's given himself over to the elite, to the establishment.
And in fact, we can't go into all that, but the only guy I've got any hope for right now is Rand Paul.
And I've met Rand Paul, talked to Rand Paul.
alex jones
Tell me about, I mean I know him as well, I've known him for 20 years, tell me your, but I haven't talked to him in years, tell me what you got from meeting with him.
gary heavin
I'll tell you two things.
The first thing is that I'm convinced he's the son of his father.
And I'm a big fan of his father.
alex jones
That's why they hate him, they know he's for real.
gary heavin
Yeah.
But the other thing is he's also smart and he's staying in the middle to stay electable.
alex jones
And they know he's doing that.
gary heavin
So, I believe that if he gets elected, by staying in the middle, that he'll be the son of his father when he's in power.
alex jones
And that's exactly what the Atlantic and the New York Times and others say.
They know, they've had his phones tabbed, they know the whole deal.
He's his dad.
And just as good.
A patriot.
And they hate his guts.
That's why I think Rand Paul is the best.
Quite frankly, Ted Cruz is probably slicker, and would be better than Hillary Clinton.
I mean, you know, I don't think Ted Cruz is a bad guy, but I think he's just compromised at the highest levels, kind of with that Republican power structure.
The Mitch McConnells right now that are trying to sign us on to TPP.
gary heavin
It's insane.
But you know, Alex, and I think you'd agree with me, there's not going to be a political solution to this problem.
The only solution is if enough people wake up and begin to think.
They begin to critically think and begin to pursue truth and invest the time and effort.
alex jones
You told me you've developed a plan and you're a guy that set up more franchises in the world than anybody ever has.
Even more than McDonald's.
The most successful franchise ever.
Associate, you know how to organize things.
Boy, I don't.
Wish I did.
Explained a great thing.
My crew's starting to get good at it.
But how would you organize, simply put, a way to take things back?
Because I just organically know, if we expose the tyranny, the fraud of the system, there'll be enough people in the system that basically leak the truth that it comes down.
But I was kind of wrong, because now we just know we're slaves, and the globalists are sitting there pointing a gun, and it's going, yeah, okay, I took over.
gary heavin
You know, I think the message has to be fairly simple.
And that's where the, you know, this is so complex.
You know, the derivatives and the money printing.
You get into that and it's so complex that it's difficult for people to grasp it.
So you've got to keep the message simple.
You know, and again, I think there's three things that if we stay focused on message.
And the first one is, is that our government in Washington is bought and paid for by the moneyed interest.
We have no influence.
We're not going to get anybody elected that's going to change anything.
Because, number two, the message is controlled.
The mainstream media, this is the second thing people need to realize, 98% of it is owned by six corporations.
And it's scripted.
And they're not going to go off message.
There's too much money involved.
So, the third point is, is it's up to individuals to begin to think, and to think clearly, to think critically, and to pursue truth.
Thank God for alternative media.
Thank God for your program.
alex jones
Oh, please don't thank me.
gary heavin
Well, this is so important because the outlets for truth are narrowed now, but they exist.
alex jones
But there's real danger.
They're trying to shut them down.
It's here in the news today.
Go ahead.
gary heavin
You betcha they are.
They realize that people that are fully aware are not going to tolerate the loss of their freedoms, either through these executive orders that defy the Constitution, or the National Defense Authorization Act, or the spending of money.
You know, your parents are retired.
They're supposed to live off their savings.
They're supposed to get 6% interest.
And enjoy the benefits of what they've saved their lives for.
They're getting nothing.
You know, 0.6% interest if they're lucky, or 0.06% interest.
Our government, through its monetary policy, have destroyed the life, taken trillions of dollars from our parents who saved and prepared for retirement.
Where's the outrage over this?
This is insane.
And it's supposed to be to stimulate the economy.
Well, we just had a negative First quarter, we're about to have another negative.
There is no stimulation to the economy.
All there is is massive debts that have been placed on the backs of not our children and grandchildren because it's not going to last that long.
This massive debt is going to bankrupt the system in this country and change all of our lives.
alex jones
Wow.
Gary Haven is our guest.
Mike Norris is here.
And he's going to get into his view on the world and a lot more coming up.
In fact, if you guys will do it, we'll do the whole next hour.
And who knows, if you want, we'll open the phones up to talk to both you guys.
But I'm telling you, this is amazing.
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If these walls had ears, the stuff you guys have been telling me is unbelievable.
I mean, we have the fount of the true Chuck Norris lore right here with us, Mike Norris.
Next hour, we're doing the whole hour with us and the guys are getting lunch.
Did you ever find out what you guys wanted for lunch?
mike norris
Turkey.
alex jones
You want a turkey sandwich?
You want barbecue turkey?
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alex jones
By the way, you aren't fat like I've been, but you've lost a ton of weight, Mike.
mike norris
I'm trying, thank you.
alex jones
When was the video shoot, the film shoot, three months ago?
mike norris
January, in January, in February?
Yeah, about January, February.
About 25, 30 pounds since then.
alex jones
Yeah, I mean, I've lost, I gained 99 pounds.
I was, I mean, I was literally as fat as Rush Limbaugh almost.
Not quite, but the point is, when he was fat, I might be a mean, and then I've lost 60 something of it, but I still need to lose another 25.
mike norris
It's tough, that last few pounds.
alex jones
Well, you've done it, buddy.
mike norris
I got no choice.
I saw myself on film.
I about had a heart attack.
I looked like John Candy.
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alex jones
No, you didn't.
mike norris
Are we on air?
alex jones
We are.
mike norris
I gotta tell your audience, they have no idea how awesome this is here.
This is fun.
alex jones
Well, thank you.
No, it's just, we get up here and just talk and cover the news and just go over the information, take calls, have great people on.
I was having an out-of-body experience listening to you two go at it, talking about... Well, let me tell you, this guy, you can tell why he made millions of dollars.
I mean, he knows what he's talking about.
Please, Mr. Gavin, I'm sorry, Mr. Haven, I do that all the time, I conflate names.
Please continue, Gary, getting into the solutions.
First, identify the problem, and then get into the solutions.
We're going to start the next hour and get into Chuck Norris lore.
gary heavin
I'm sorry.
We're heavy now, we'll get light later.
That's the plan.
Well, you know, Alex, you and I share a common goal, and that is we're committed to getting the truth out to people.
And we're committed to protecting and defending the Constitution of this country against enemies foreign and domestic.
And I don't know that our forefathers, I don't know that George Washington understood that the domestic threat that was going to exist for our freedoms in this country that we have today Well, can you imagine what the founders... I mean, everybody always says that, but this is becoming crazy land.
alex jones
And they're just... The Democrats have announced they want to shut down talk radio and libertarian conservative news.
It was just announced today.
It's up on Infowars.com.
Election Commission Dems want to regulate conservative internet super PACs.
They've made the announcement.
They promised they wouldn't.
Just let the FCC run the internet.
And now what are they doing?
gary heavin
It's crazy.
I want to share a story with you.
I felt, and this is a God thing, I was given an opportunity to teach the Governor, Governor Abbott, about, in fact, here's the way it began.
I said Governor, in fact he was the Attorney General at the time, I said, You're going to be the most important governor in the history of Texas.
And he gave me a really odd look and he said, how so?
And I said, you're going to be in a position to choose to comply with an out of control, dictatorial federal government.
alex jones
You told me this story in February and now it's happening with him and Jane Helm.
gary heavin
Isn't that amazing?
alex jones
And you told me at dinner, you said, I believe he will be in that position.
God basically told me.
And that is, I'm getting chills.
I don't mean to steal your thunder.
You just can't make this stuff up!
We should have led with this.
Hey, I've run into a Chief of Staff on the street twice in the last two weeks.
And then he comes over and shakes my hand and we start talking about stuff.
gary heavin
Yeah, they're great guys.
Well, for people who may not be aware of what he did, when Texans begin to shout, look, we don't like this Jade Helm thing, we don't like... You know, we gotta go to break.
alex jones
It's a five-minute segment, twelve-minute segment, six-minute segment, eighteen-minute segment, six-minute segment.
I want to just start this whole thing over.
I'm gonna shut up, give you the floor to tell the story in 70 seconds.
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alex jones
Gary Haven, the founder of Curves and many other huge successful corporations, is our guest.
The biggest health chain in the world and a patriot running around trying to wake up the Republicans for years behind the scenes and now working with Mike Norris.
Some stations don't carry this segment.
Most of them do, but I decided to do this instead of stations having to carry propaganda news.
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We're here.
alex jones
So I'm going to ask you to defer to tell your Abbott story to the next segment.
You will have the floor, and then we're going to segue into Steve McQueen land.
Because this is interesting, because back when men were men, and of course your dad was great buddies with Steve McQueen.
I mean, it's Chuck Norris!
I mean, you know, Steve McQueen discovers Chuck Norris.
I mean, it's just amazing.
But we'll get into all that.
Getting back into Jade Helm, I want to ask you, Mr. Norris, what do you think about the big freakout about it?
Because quite frankly, it's just one more conditioning to have troops on the streets.
We didn't say it was that big a deal, but now they're freaking out so bad.
Did you think we hit on something bigger?
Because now we're learning it is about domestic operations for sure.
mike norris
Let me say this to you.
I've had my head buried in an editing studio for four months.
I know about Jade Helm, and I know my dad is very much an advocate for the anti-Jade Helm thing.
alex jones
And he's Mr. Military.
mike norris
Yeah.
alex jones
He has the contacts.
Absolutely.
He hands out the Bronze Stars and Gresham Medal of Honor.
mike norris
And so, I know Jade Helm.
Gary really knows Jade Helm.
And what I do know is that my dad said that the troops were kind of butting up to his ranch.
And if I could just say something to them, don't do it.
And also, if any troops back up to Gary Haven's ranch, don't do it.
Seriously.
alex jones
You've got armed helicopters.
gary heavin
My ranch is three miles from North Fort Hood.
I think I'm out of luck on this.
alex jones
Well, we all know the truth.
The troops are awesome.
They are the most, and I'm not kissing their butt, because I didn't like all this, the establishment using them to make themselves look good.
Oh, the troops are great.
But then I found out they are the most awake group.
I mean, they are great.
mike norris
Absolutely.
We had a number of actual military men on our film that are part of a security team now, but these are all guys that have had four, five, six tours of Iraq, Afghanistan, and the troops are awake.
gary heavin
Let me mention something, too.
One of the messages in our movie was to tell the troops That they don't have to obey unconstitutional orders.
For example, if they're ordered to fire on American citizens or disarm American citizens in violation of the Second Amendment, that they should think about it.
And this is what's neat about this.
If they watch the movie, they're going to think about it now.
They're going to think about it well in advance from the time that they're ordered to do it.
And so, getting them to spend some time on that now may save us and them from obeying illegal orders.
alex jones
There's the Providence again.
I wish you would have, I should have thought to record that dinner we had and then talking at night after the shoot.
Because it's providence.
I mean, I cannot, I don't think I've ever experienced something this providential.
Is that you literally in there with the sheriff in there in the green room while we're eating breakfast.
Are the sheriffs sitting there nodding, and they got some Texas Rangers coming by and stuff, you know, fans of the operation.
And you're going, you're in this presentation, and Alex, I've been talking to the politicians, and I believe that Texas is going to be the battleground for this, and we've got to put this film out to warn people about what's coming, and it's my job to reach out to the governor so he knows his place in history, to basically be this peaceful shot heard around the world when they say no to the troops on the streets.
And I'm going, well, this could happen, yeah, but I mean, wow, I mean, this guy's really putting his money where his mouth is, and then now it's all happening, and the governor did it, and you said, I woke the governor up, and all these meetings you've had with him and hanging out with him, and I mean, we're going to come back and you're going to get the floor.
And roll with the providence of your film.
And again, tell people when it's coming out in the name.
mike norris
Uh, the name of the film is Amerageddon.
alex jones
Amerageddon.
mike norris
Amerageddon.
And we're looking at the end of the year for a release.
alex jones
Yeah, because I was excited to be part of it once I got there.
I got really excited.
And I'm not kidding.
I'm not kidding.
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Luckily, it was all caught on camera, and we were able to explain to the cops what happened.
If you go to the Red Guards Austin Facebook page, you can see pictures of some of these individuals who showed up yesterday.
During the live broadcast, we were able to show Facebook images of these individuals carrying communist sickles, burning American flags, and basically trying to get everybody into a race war against the police.
Of course, they were there dressed in all black saying, we're here for women's health.
But then even on tape they talked about how they love to kill babies.
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Rob Due reporting for InfoWars.com.
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He aligns himself with the truth.
And it's time for you to choose a side.
You're listening to Alex Jones.
alex jones
Gary Haven, Mike Norris in the studio.
And we're tweeting out right now, real Alex Jones.
Chuck Norris's son tells all, but he's gonna tell us how cool Chuck Norris is.
Because when you actually know the real lore, it gets even cooler.
Not just the Chuck Norris, you know, sayings and all the rest of it.
Simply amazing.
That'd be a good bumper sticker.
Chuck Norris!
uh you know listen to infowars.com or or or how would you say it uh you know infowars.com powered by chuck norris but that would be kind of stealing you know his name so i won't do that but one of my producers was making that joke earlier today it's like i don't get giddy about celebrities but chuck norris really is just so cool and now he's fighting jade helm and saying he doesn't trust obama and control the military and the military's been trying to go after patriots but We got Congressman Louie Gohmert saying it, and Ted Cruz coming out and saying it, which I thought was a big plus for him.
And the governor leading the fight.
And now, Gary Haven.
Then we shift into Chuck Norris and movies and Christian films for the balance of transmission.
But Mr. Haven, founder of Curves, founder of huge supplement companies, you name it.
You know, out there trying to wake up the Republican Party, trying to take it back, trying to warn the people.
Amerigeddon coming out in November, December, which literally predicts Jade Helm type of events.
You know, Red Dawn Part 2 with the very players.
Simply amazing.
In the film, you warn the military not to be taken over by the globalists.
I mean, it is a clarion call Providential, I would call it, and you didn't just say I'm making it because it's a, you know, nebulous possibility.
You said, I believe this is happening, and it was so convincing, you said it with such gravitas, that I got really excited.
Buckley was there, my cousin, you'd leave the room, and I was like, my God, this is something special.
This guy, and then you told me, I'm waking the governor up, and I'm waking, you weren't bragging, you say, I'm on a mission.
I've already given these people tens of millions of dollars trying to get them to stop selling out America and keep our jobs here, but they won't do it.
So now I'm going to start making films.
I mean, Alex, you need to do this and that.
So go through that providential stuff in your meetings, multi-hour long meetings with the governor, private meetings, you name it, and talking to him about this big choice he would have coming up very soon.
This was just four months ago.
gary heavin
Yeah, let's start with what happened this last two weeks, and for people that may not be aware, the governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, ordered the Texas National Guard to observe the military, the special ops that are doing Jade Helm.
That's a remarkable thing.
And he took tremendous ridicule in the mainstream media over standing up and protecting his citizens.
What a novel idea.
Protect the citizens that elected you.
I'm really proud of him.
It took a lot of courage to do that.
You know, we go back, I retired a couple years ago and was looking for something important to do.
And I felt like I had an opportunity and a duty to educate people, to help them to influence the culture.
And the greatest threat to our culture right now is the usurpation of our Constitution that protects our freedoms.
And so using media, using movies which are entertaining to teach people was what I decided to do.
And of course I partnered with Mike Norris, Chuck's son, and we began to make movies.
Now this movie, Mike and I wrote the script over last year.
We didn't realize how timely it was going to be.
But the byline of the movie is a true story that hasn't happened yet.
And now here we are, we're in the editing process, and a lot of the things depicted in the movie are happening.
For example, we talk about the National Defense Authorization Act that was passed over the last few years, which completely takes away due process in our Constitution.
Today, in America, you can be arrested under nothing but suspicion Uh, of terrorism.
alex jones
And disappeared.
gary heavin
Incarcerated.
Not be told where you are.
That's exactly right.
Not have legal defense.
Not face your accuser.
And you could be held indefinitely.
That's insane in an America.
But it is in law, codified in law today.
alex jones
And now the government's saying it's for the veterans and the gun owners and the Christians.
Oh, how dare Governor Abbott be concerned, or Chuck Norris, or Louie Gohmert.
How dare the congressman care?
gary heavin
So getting people to become aware of what our government has done to threaten their freedoms is really the mission we're on right now.
This movie is helping us to accomplish that because it tells the story and demonstrates it.
It shows it.
You know, as troops come to my ranch and try to take my resources, And in fact, there's a great scene.
You know, I'm a helicopter pilot, so I have a helicopter battle with a Huey flown by the top helicopter stunt pilot in the world, and we do a dance in the sky where he's trying to get missile-locked.
alex jones
I should add, dangerous dance, from what I mean.
mike norris
The executive producer is flying his own helicopter.
gary heavin
In a 39 crosswind, 15 feet from the other helicopter.
It was just, it was so cool getting to do that.
But you know, it's fun, and yet it's very serious.
People need to be aware of what's really going on.
And these are not, you know, things that might happen.
This is stuff that's codified into the law today that are a direct threat to our freedoms.
So we're telling that story.
alex jones
And during a financial collapse, they say they're going to seize infrastructure and land and have forced labor.
gary heavin
And in this financial collapse, that is imminent.
I mean, you can't print money and buy your own debt indefinitely.
If you could do that, Zimbabwe would be one heck of a success story.
alex jones
Or Weimar, Germany.
gary heavin
Yeah.
By the way, we have two curves in Zimbabwe, so... Quite successful, by the way.
So, you know, in my worldwide experience being in 90 countries, including 200 locations in Ukraine, you know, has really given me an insight much broader than you would expect.
alex jones
Aren't the Ukrainian ladies beautiful?
gary heavin
Oh, they all are over there.
It's amazing.
I'd like to take a little credit for it.
Yeah, you've got them working out.
We've been pinning them up and helping them restore their beauty.
But back to the Governor.
One of the opportunities I had was to really speak truth to power.
And I believe the Texas government is an amazing thing.
I was one of 150 people on the platform, on the podium, when the Governor gave his speech.
And he and the Lieutenant Governor.
They said to the public, and not a lot of people saw this, they said we will sign no laws that are not consistent with our Judeo-Christian values.
You would not have heard that from any platform in any state in the country but Texas.
alex jones
In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act, George Orwell.
gary heavin
That's exactly right.
Well, I believe that, and I believe God has shown me that Texas is going to be a sanctuary.
God has given us good government.
alex jones
See, my uncle said that.
gary heavin
Really?
alex jones
Yeah, and he died last year, but he was a very deep Christian, very devout, and he believed that.
gary heavin
You know, the Bible says that there'll be a place in the wilderness for the woman, and I believe Texas is going to be a place in the wilderness for free-minded people to go to.
alex jones
So the real free state?
gary heavin
Yeah, and I believe it'll happen.
And I believe that I've been privileged to spend time with the Governor and the Attorney General, by the way, who's the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the state.
To teach them and prepare them for what's coming.
And they've been very receptive to what I've been talking about.
And then we had the evidence.
alex jones
Well, Gary, you are slick.
I'm ready to buy snow cones in Antarctica right now.
mike norris
He's like E.F.
Hutton, isn't he?
When Gary talks, people listen.
gary heavin
I tell you, when you've got the truth on your side, it's pretty delicious.
Absolutely.
And that's the beauty of it.
And again, I commend you for telling the truth.
alex jones
Please continue.
gary heavin
Well, we saw the evidence of the governor being willing to protect the citizens of his state.
alex jones
And repeat that, you told me, you said it earlier but you got caught up in the brain.
I mean, because you told me this again back in February, and you just talked to him like a month before, specifically when he was sworn in, specifically you said you're going to have this challenge, it's going to happen and then describe how he was like, really?
gary heavin
Yeah.
Well, keep in mind, when Greg Abbott was the Attorney General of Texas, he sued the federal government 28 times, more than anybody has ever done before.
Everything from the EPA, you know, coming into Texas trying to dictate.
He won the only Ten Commandments defense.
alex jones
He's put thousands of DPS on the border and they're calling him a kook trying to remove him.
gary heavin
So this man is already very, very knowledgeable in the overreach of the federal government.
But I was in a meeting with him early on and I said, do you realize that the president can take command of the Texas National Guard away from you?
And he didn't know that.
And I showed him the evidence of it under the National Defense Authorization Act, and he was pretty astounded.
alex jones
That's 2007.
gary heavin
Yeah.
Well, the 2012 was really the nasty one.
alex jones
You're right, but it started with the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, and then Obama accelerated it.
gary heavin
And they simply renew it each year.
And the Republicans have signed on to this, as well as the Democrats.
That's kind of another topic, but let's touch on it.
alex jones
No, go over it.
We're going to skip this network break.
Go ahead.
gary heavin
You know, we know the Democrats are sold-out socialists.
They have bought the electorate.
And you know your enemy, that's one thing.
But the Republicans, the establishment Republicans, are the enemy in our own camp.
They're the real danger.
I was explaining this to John Cornyn, Senator Cornyn from Texas.
alex jones
Tell the crowd right out there.
There's a camera.
gary heavin
I said, Senator, you know, you've got one foot in the conservative camp and one foot in the establishment camp.
You need to make your mind up.
Because you are an enemy in our camp and you're more dangerous than an enemy on our border.
And you've got to make your mind up.
And he had an interesting response.
Gary, I can't disagree with the thing you said.
That's pretty astounding.
alex jones
Well, he admitted he's an enemy.
gary heavin
Well, he admitted he's got one foot in the establishment camp.
And so we've got to realize, as American citizens, that the Republican Party is not our hope either.
They're as bought and paid for by the moneyed interest as the Democrats.
It's just that they still claim some pledge to freedom.
Now, there's a few good Republicans out there.
I feel good about Rand Paul and Louie Gohmert.
Roger Williams is my personal congressman.
I believe he's done some good things.
But they're in the minority.
Our solution to our country is not going to come in the political realm.
It's going to come with a number of Americans waking up and thinking critically so that they can make informed decisions about what's going on out there.
Evidence is all around us.
alex jones
It's an info war.
gary heavin
Very good.
It's amazing you worked that in.
alex jones
I mean, it's true, but specifically back to the Providence.
So you're there with the governor, and you say you're going to have to make this decision on a federal takeover.
I mean, you told me, you said, I believe it's coming, and we described that conversation.
gary heavin
Yeah, I said to, he was the Attorney General about to be sworn in, and I said, you're going to be the most important governor in the history of Texas.
And he said, how so?
And he looked perplexed.
And I said, because you're going to be in a position to have to decide whether to be compliant to an out of control Federal government, or to stand for the rights and freedoms of the Texas citizens.
And you can see his reaction to that.
It was very, very meaningful to him.
And just two weeks ago, we saw the evidence of him making that kind of decision, when he ordered the Texas National Guard to observe all of these special ops troops that are going to be operating in Texas under the Jade Helm program.
alex jones
And quote, doing suspicious things.
And then they give speeches and admit this at one city council, and then go and speak in Bastrop to the county council and say they never said any of that.
I mean, it's just, we have their own document.
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Yeah.
gary heavin
You remember Jack LaLanne, the exercise guy?
alex jones
Yes.
gary heavin
Most people do.
He had the longest running team.
He was a friend of mine.
And he used to say that he always told the truth because he has such a poor memory.
alex jones
Me too.
I tell you, man.
gary heavin
All these people apparently have poor memories.
You know, when you're trying to keep all these stories together, they're not based in fact, you end up exposing it.
That's why we have an opportunity to take our country back.
Because the things that these people in power do are based on deceit.
And they can't get away with it if enough people are thinking clearly.
alex jones
Well, and that's why they want to make the world so complex and confusing with all these false stories, because I'm 41.
In the past, I had a near-photographic memory with text.
Uh, and also photos.
Now it's from stress and everything else.
It's still a good memory, but not as good.
I kind of, you know, they say you can make a couple hundred decisions a day and then you start getting fuzzy.
And that's why I want to work till seven or eight at night.
But after that, I just, it doesn't work anymore.
I mean, it's like I'm kind of done or I go take a nap, but.
People, my kids ask me questions, their family does, and I caught myself the last few years, I'd go, oh yeah, yeah, this is how it is.
Not lying on purpose, but not being able to remember, so just saying something.
And now I've just learned how to just go, I don't remember, or I gotta think about that.
And I guess it's something you have to get used to.
And now I realize when I ask my grandpa something, he'd go, uh, yeah, just, yeah.
Because, you know, you just, you don't want to, it's that you, they've got the knowledge.
You just don't want to dredge it all up.
And I think that's where they've gotten the American people, where they're just so poleaxed with so much data that they kind of just curl up in a ball.
What I'm saying is, don't curl up in a ball.
Go read what the globalists are saying and the Council of Foreign Relations and Club of Rome and Bilderberg and Davos.
They're in the news today calling for planetary government run by them.
That's, though, because that's in scholarly papers between themselves.
Then they have CNN come out and say it doesn't exist, but if you just... All we do is go past them to the executive orders, to the Jade Helm document, to the... As a corporate executive, you go to the bottom line, to the corporate papers.
I mean, you just get past all the phlegm phlegm and all the stuff to the heart of the matter.
gary heavin
Yeah, just stay on message is what we all have to do.
You know, I have, at my age, I have more of a Polaroid memory.
I have to take the picture and let it sit there and develop.
alex jones
Exactly.
gary heavin
Before I can remember it.
But people, if they stay on the basic facts, which is, you know, you're not getting it from the media, it's bought and paid for.
If we're over in Ukraine, Picking a fight with a nuclear opponent is probably not the best idea.
You know, these are not concepts that are complicated or too difficult.
But stay on message and really think about the things that are important.
Printing money to buy your own debt.
It's a real simple concept.
You don't have to understand derivatives and all that kind of stuff.
Just a bad idea.
No country in history has been able to do it and survive.
alex jones
How far do you think it can go?
I mean, how much, because obviously we've gone past Weimar, past Zimbabwe, in the total real metric of money, digital issuances.
Now they've got computers and more manipulative systems, but we're seeing the signs of it everywhere.
I mean, how far, as a real business expert, you know, a guy who bootstrapped sort of one of the most successful chains in history and other corporations.
I was reading online in Forbes, you've started dozens of different successful companies and So, and I really respect that.
That's rock star to me.
As people that are actually entrepreneurs, you know, I know Paul DiGiorgio.
I mean, I think he's a rock star.
He's a patriot as well, but kind of keeps it on the low down a little bit.
gary heavin
But... He lives here in Austin.
alex jones
Absolutely.
I bet you know him.
I don't want to speak for him.
We could probably get him on the show.
I just kind of... Anyways, I'm not going to get into that, but I know him.
How far can it go?
gary heavin
Let me give you two answers real quick.
This is a great example that I shared with Senator Cornyn at dinner one day.
If you took the spending of the United States government, and you took away all the zeroes, And let's take the $3.5 trillion that they spent this year and you reduce it to $35,000.
That would be the annual spending of our household budget.
And then we took in $2 trillion in taxes.
And that $2 trillion includes the trust fund for Social Security and Medicare that's supposed to be set aside and saved.
There's no trust fund.
And there's a good example, too.
There is no trust fund.
There's just IOUs.
There's no Social Security fund.
There's no Medicare fund.
It's gone.
It's been spent.
Spent in the general budget.
But if your income is $20,000, which is 2 trillion without the zeros, and you're spending $35,000, which is 3.5 trillion without the zeros, you know, how long can your household manage that budget?
Now, here's the other problem.
You've got $18 trillion in debt that has to be serviced every month, so your credit card is $180,000.
So you're making $20,000, you're spending $35,000, and you're trying to service $180,000 in credit.
You're spending $35,000, and you're trying to service $180,000 in credit.
If you were a household, you'd be bankrupt.
And then if you took the unfunded liabilities, it's not just the $18 trillion our government owes.
It's the Social Security.
It's the federal pensions.
It's all the other things.
And it's a minimal, conservatively $100 trillion.
But if you take $100 trillion and divide it among 100 million American families, which is how many of us there are, that's a million dollars per family.
alex jones
Let's go further.
Now there's $2.2 quadrillion globally in fake derivatives that we don't know, that they say we do.
The USA says half of those.
So $1.1 trillion.
If you add $1.1 trillion to $100 trillion, that's $1.2 trillion.
Can we divide that into 100 million households, please?
gary heavin
I can't do it.
alex jones
No, I can't either.
Guys, can you or the calculator divide $1.2 quadrillion into $100 million?
It's going to be a big number.
You know what it is?
It's probably $10 million per household.
I think it does, but divide 1.2 quadrille, $1,200 trillion, into $100 million.
gary heavin
There you go.
alex jones
It's going to be a big number.
gary heavin
You know what it is?
It's probably $10 million per household.
But, you know, just to keep it simple, you know, the things that I think the average American get the hand around for $12 million.
A million bucks per family.
The average family makes $50,000 a year.
How are we going to pay that debt off?
It's mathematically impossible.
alex jones
Well, their answer is army tanks, checkpoints, and forced labor.
It's cloward and pevin.
They collapse everything.
We'll be begging for troops when there's people running around burning everything.
And you've got the Justice Department in there taking some problems that are there, stirring it up for a war on police, just like Ukraine, just like they financed the overthrow there.
They're getting ready to do it here!
And I'll be saying bring the troops in.
I mean, you know, they've got it figured out.
Now, shifting gears into Mike Norris, and he said, hey, I don't mind talking about my dad.
So he was talking about him, you know, like he's his, you know, biggest hero, and we were at dinner and stuff, because he said, hey, it wouldn't be if it wasn't for Chuck Norris.
Chuck Norris, incredibly private guy.
You were telling me amazing stuff.
I talked to some Hollywood stunt drivers and people that I know.
They go, oh, yeah, it's all true and more.
He's just over the top.
Some of the behind the scenes stuff, or I mean, some of it's so cool, I don't even know if you can even tell these stories.
And then Steve McQueen and everything else, over the top.
We're celebrating Americana.
What is more Americana than Chuck Norris, maybe John Wayne?
No, I don't think so, because John Wayne was a patriot, but he really wasn't the Taekwondo champion and all the rest of it.
Tell us what's going on with the current Chuck Norris planet.
I mean, this is planet Norris.
mike norris
Yeah, it is.
You know, it's so great being Chuck Norris' son.
When I was 13, 14 years old, it was just like this, a front seat to see a movie star being created.
You know, in a strange way, it's kind of a lot like what's going on now.
It was perfect timing in the late 70s, early 80s for a new American hero to be born.
And that was my dad.
My dad was that new American.
alex jones
He's the new John Wayne.
mike norris
And it was great.
It was what a blessing to watch this happen and how it changed my world.
You know, as kids, my dad was a karate teacher.
So every Friday, Saturday and Sunday, we packed up in the station wagon.
We went to a car dealership, did a karate demonstration, trying to get students into the karate.
alex jones
Of course, he'd been in the military before that, an MP.
mike norris
Yeah, he was in Korea, he learned karate in Korea.
alex jones
Stay there, you have the floor, we return.
mike norris
Promise?
alex jones
We may have to go, we need to get you some water, whatever.
But Mike Norris is here, and it's exciting.
I want you, I heard two hours of it, but I want you to get to hear some of this stuff, because it's amazing.
We'll be back, ladies and gentlemen, with Mike Norris.
You can just actually go over and just pat him.
unidentified
There he is, right there.
alex jones
We'll be back.
We're not worthy!
unidentified
We're on the march.
The Empire's on the run.
Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
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unidentified
InfoWarsLife.com It's Alex Jones.
Don't think, Mr. Gray, that we don't know what you're up to.
alex jones
Stockpiling food, weapons, fuel.
The National Defense Authorization Act is there to stop domestic terrorist threats to this country and people like you.
gary heavin
I am an American.
I am a patriot.
You, sir, are nothing but a traitor.
unidentified
I've never seen anything like that in my life.
alex jones
That man's a threat to this country.
unidentified
That little rant will be all over the news tonight.
You must understand this plays into our hands.
The American news media has our narrative.
And in that narrative, Charlie Gray is perfectly playing the role of right-wing extremist.
The stigma of that label will stop up the use of the American public faster than any propaganda we can fashion.
alex jones
Amerageddon hitting theaters and your online viewing as well.
There were the Netflix, you name it, on the online systems, TV systems coming up in November, December of 2015.
Could not be a better time.
It deals with internationalists, globalists, using the federal government to basically bring in a creeping tyranny and a seizure of the infrastructure of the country, just like the TPP is doing, and if we ever try to say no, then they bring in the force.
Now, without further ado, we've got Gary Haven in here, entrepreneur, The creator of the largest successful franchise in world history according to Forbes, Curves, which he retired from a few years ago.
And then of course we have Mike Norris, 20 plus films, some of the top Christian films, other films, TV shows, mainline TV shows he's produced.
Of course working with his father and others, but doing a lot of his own productions.
That is Mike Norris.
Okay, we've only got this segment and one more, maybe a little bit of overdrive.
You've been a trooper sitting there while we talk about the New World Order, but thank you for coming down to Austin from Dallas for folks who just joined us.
Mike Norris, Tell us about the real Chuck Norris, because a bunch of this stuff's not known.
mike norris
Wow, the real Chuck Norris.
alex jones
He's even cooler than what we heard!
mike norris
You know, he really is an amazing man that has done so many amazing things, not only for the country, for the troops, but for his family and for his friends.
Just a huge blessing, just a huge blessing.
alex jones
Absolutely.
Well, I mean, you told us so many of the stories.
I don't think you even need that earpiece.
I can take it off.
It's just dangling there.
I know it's hard to talk about your dad, but it's also fun.
When we're sitting around eating Mexican food, though, you were telling the stories.
Where should we begin?
Let's start at the beginning, you know, where you just ended, driving in the station wagon every weekend to recruit folks for karate class.
mike norris
And it was my dad and I, we had this routine we did together, you know, we'd be walking across each other, he'd bump into me, we'd do a fight scene, and, you know, we'd go, go to Chuck Norris Karate schools!
So, he ended up losing his karate schools, and he was teaching Steve McQueen private lessons, and Steve goes, why don't you just become an actor?
And he's like, well, I can't talk in front of people.
He says, let everybody else do all the talking, you say what's important.
And that's kind of how Chuck Norris started in the cinema.
But while that was all taking place, we'd go out to California.
We'd go motorcycle riding with Steve McQueen.
I'll never forget.
Steve McQueen tied a rope around his stomach.
I was on an Indian motorcycle and I was going in circles.
And he was just teaching me how to ride a motorcycle at nine years old.
I'm like going, wow, this is pretty cool.
alex jones
I talk to folks in Hollywood and they say Steve McQueen is hands down the coolest ever.
Had to be.
mike norris
Had to be.
He was great.
He was great.
And later on in life, his son and I, Chad, did a movie together.
It was really fun.
My dad had a lot of very interesting people that he taught karate to.
Bob Barker is a black belt.
He did that fight scene in that Adam Sandler movie, Happy Madison.
Knocked him out!
And so as a kid, I just get up, I go with my dad, I'll sit there, he teaches class, we go home together.
It was when he started making films that it was just such a meteoric rise.
Like we were talking about, our country at that time needed a hero.
And our country at this time needs a wake-up call.
And that's what, you know, we're providing for the country.
A lot what my dad did back then.
alex jones
Yeah, because the globalists were putting us through a process of demonizing America, blaming America's problems on Americana, when Americana was the answer to the globalist poison.
Just like they're doing now, he was a pro-America hero that people needed, and notice today he's speaking out against the globalists.
Let's get into Bruce Lee.
Bruce Lee.
mike norris
My dad and Bruce met a number of times, and there's a lot of stories that you could read online about my dad and Bruce training together.
alex jones
Yeah, but you told us some that nobody knows.
unidentified
Tell us some of those.
mike norris
I fought in a karate tournament, and I'd won, and my dad was going to fight that night, but Bruce Lee was there, and I'm getting a picture with Bruce Lee, and I'm like, Oh my gosh, this is Bruce Lee, but I'll never forget.
There was a guy in the audience and he kept looking and staring and I kept looking back at the guy and finally Bruce just grabbed my face and put it forward like this and we snapped the picture.
And it was amazing and to this day I still have that picture of Bruce Lee.
But growing up in our household was very adventurous.
For some reason my father was a magnet.
For anybody that needed help.
And we shared a lot of stories, and they're all things I can say over here, it's no problem.
But, you know, a Sunday morning, I'm 11 years old, there's somebody banging on the front door.
And I come to the front door, I open up and there's some guy there with a samurai sword going, where's Chuck Norris?
alex jones
So people wanted to come fight him.
mike norris
These are his People my dad knew that if they were in trouble or something, they all showed up at our house.
I don't know why.
My dad could give them advice.
alex jones
He was the guru.
mike norris
He really was.
And you know, here's a guy standing there with a samurai sword and I just looked at him, I go, Dad?
alex jones
Oh my God.
mike norris
My dad comes down, talks the guy down.
Get some out of there.
Oh, we've had people come stay at our house and said they were relatives, spent the night.
We're all stuck in a bedroom, my mom, my dad, my brother and I. And my dad's going to my mom going, don't you understand?
I can kick this guy's butt.
And he's got control of the house and we're locked in a little room.
We've got some guy walking around the house saying he's our Uncle Gene from Oklahoma.
Tons of stories like that.
alex jones
It was so exciting to, especially like, just kind of go back to that time when life was simple and... When did your dad become, you know, from kind of a mainline conservative constitutionalist, I know he's a big fan of the founding fathers, I read his columns, I read one on one he wrote a few years ago, it was great about, you know, why we need another George Washington or more George Washington.
When did his views, when did he become aware of the New World Order, the globalists, the larger program?
mike norris
You know, I think that really came on after we were done doing Walker, Texas Ranger when, in a sense, he kind of retired really from acting is after Walker.
I don't recall him.
He did Expendables, but you know, I think after Walker, it gave him time to kind of read, reflect, investigate.
He's always been political.
You know, I've been great friends with the President.
alex jones
I don't want to speak for him.
He's been on the show a few times.
Six, seven, eight years ago and a few years ago.
But he listens quite a bit.
mike norris
Oh yeah, absolutely.
And I called him while we were filming.
unidentified
I go, Dad, Alex Jones is coming to play a part in our movie.
mike norris
And he was so excited.
He goes, really?
Tell Alex I love him.
I listen to his show all the time.
I'm like, I will.
alex jones
It's just bizarre to have Chuck Norris as a regular listener.
You told me a lot of other stories.
I don't know how many of these we can tell.
mike norris
I didn't tell you anything.
alex jones
It was all good.
It was all really good.
No, no, it was all really good.
unidentified
But it's exciting.
mike norris
And I consider it a privilege.
And I also consider it a responsibility of being Chuck Norris' son.
Because I'm not only representing myself.
I am representing my family, which is my father, which is my children, which is Gary.
alex jones
Well, your dad's got to be proud of you fighting the globalists like you are right now and putting out these great Christian films.
mike norris
He's, well, he's really excited.
He's excited that, um, obviously, you know, Gary, a guy, you know, let me remember when Mike shared with him that we were going to do this movie.
gary heavin
He asked you one question.
mike norris
Are you willing to die for it?
alex jones
Oh, now we're getting to some of the stories.
mike norris
Are you willing to die for this movie?
Because that's how important this script was.
alex jones
Chuck Norris said that.
unidentified
Yes.
alex jones
Wow.
What do you mean by that?
mike norris
Who was the director on that anti-establishment film that was killed?
alex jones
Well, Dinesh D'Souza just got locked up.
A bunch of people are getting killed.
gary heavin
In Minnesota, a 32-year-old veteran was making movie Grey... Grey State!
alex jones
Oh yeah, they definitely... No, it's bad.
Believe me, I'm not trying to act like we're in danger or anything, because I don't want to freak people out, but...
I mean, this is a real deal.
gary heavin
We were filming, middle of filming, and we pick up the newspaper, and this young director was found in his home with an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound, along with his five-year-old daughter and his wife.
It was suspicious.
People who knew him said, this is impossible.
He was excited.
alex jones
Just like the state senator that was exposed in the pedophile rings was coming on my show the next week.
We covered it at the start of the show.
She got executed at her house in a murder-suicide.
gary heavin
So when we heard this, I told Mike, I said, man, I'm glad I'm not the director on this movie.
alex jones
Well, you know, they're scared of movies and your dad's right.
So, so, so your dad thinks this is a dangerous film.
mike norris
Oh, absolutely.
alex jones
But he was saying go for it.
He was warning him.
mike norris
I think he was proud.
I think we need to be more bold.
alex jones
I agree.
mike norris
We need to speak up.
unidentified
Well look, you're doing some bold stuff right now.
mike norris
Full disclosure, a lot of my knowledge has come from Gary.
gary heavin
Hey, don't blame me.
mike norris
All the money has come from Gary.
alex jones
We gotta make this film hit big.
mike norris
Yeah, and it's coming together good.
And that's why it's fun to come in here and talk about it.
And you play such a key role in the opening of the film.
alex jones
That's a long scene.
mike norris
Well, that was just a minute, but the scene is long and it sets up the rest of the movie.
alex jones
So instead of having like Blade Runner where there's a long narration about replicants of the future, you're not cop, you're little people, this is done in a congressional hearing where you really get everything.
Absolutely.
It was really smart.
And again, who wrote that?
gary heavin
I wrote that scene.
In fact, I'll kind of restate it.
alex jones
That's a smart way to introduce a film.
gary heavin
Yeah.
And the movie opens where I'm the Charlie Gray, kind of the star and hero of the movie, and I'm in front of a Senate hearing.
And Alex plays an evil senator.
Very, very evil.
And we have a debate.
I'm challenging the government to do something about protecting America from its most imminent threat.
This is real life.
That's an EMP attack, an electromagnetic pulse.
And I'm calling his attention that the Congress has already determined it's the number one threat.
And he is ridiculing me, which is what the strategy of those people do.
And so we have this opening scene where you get a gist of what the movie's going to be about and what you should be concerned about.
And you also get to see the political establishment to kind of poo-poo this whole thing, and it's a great way to kind of get up to speed about what you're about to watch.
alex jones
Well, it's dynamite.
The whole thing's powerful, and if we just had more people doing this, I tell you, you could launch a whole new genre of patriot cinema, and just like, I mean, now I'll see in the top box office of the top 50 films or so, like 10 of them are Christian.
And a lot of these have really good messages, and so that means we're starting to have victories against these people.
mike norris
Yeah, and I'm wondering if there's maybe a sliver in Hollywood that could be awake, because they have dropped hints in other big Hollywood films.
alex jones
Oh, more and more we're seeing people talk about the New World Order, like the Captain America Winter Soldier.
mike norris
Yeah, exactly.
alex jones
I mean, that whole thing is exposing, you know, the Hydra system and what it's doing and how it's taking our rights and the NSA.
I mean, well, you're not in Hollywood, so I mean, you know how many people are awake out there.
I mean, that's the thing is it came out in the news that there's thousands of closet libertarians and conservatives.
They have secret meetings because they're not communists.
mike norris
And it goes a lot deeper in Hollywood than that.
As far as the agenda in Hollywood.
alex jones
Now you're starting to go.
Skip the network break.
unidentified
Go ahead.
alex jones
Come on!
unidentified
No, okay.
mike norris
There is an agenda in Hollywood.
Right?
We know what the agenda is.
alex jones
It's to... And the family.
mike norris
It's to... It's a gay agenda?
It's a demonic agenda.
I saw that firsthand as an 18-year-old.
You know, back in the 80s, my dad was making movies and, hey, let's make this movie with Mike Norris and we'll just put Norris up on the thing.
And I was like, great, I'm all in.
So I was making these movies, but I was exposed at 18, 19 years old to agents that they were going to make my future.
And I said, If this is what it's going to take, I'm done.
And so, I just kind of did my own thing, produced my own films, and tried to... Well, the issue is it's a cult.
alex jones
I mean, they make you get involved in this.
mike norris
They do.
alex jones
If you want to be successful.
mike norris
If you want to be successful.
And they make you do horrendous things to be part of that culture out there.
I don't want it.
I live in Texas.
My kids are Texans.
We're going to do everything right here in Texas.
Hollywood can do it.
alex jones
And by the way, you know, because we know some of those same people, some of the biggest names in Hollywood, and they're all locked in their houses scared.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
alex jones
I mean, people, it's not like everybody's evil out there.
They're all scared.
mike norris
There are a lot of good people in Hollywood, but they are scared.
You know, it's, do you want to make a dollar or do you want to be honest?
And everybody there wants to make a dollar.
Great.
We all want to make money.
We all want to live, but I want to do it with a purpose.
alex jones
Well, Mark Cuban, and this came out in the New York Times the year after I talked about it, was going to put like $15 million into a rollout on a thousand screens of Loose Change, a film that I produced, partially produced, and And it was downloaded over 100 million times.
They saw that.
And he said, yeah, I think false flags are interesting.
I was there in some phone conversations with him.
And man, all these lawyers came to the meeting.
And I mean, Jake Bloom, you know, the biggest guys in Hollywood.
I'm not going to get into the rest of the names.
And I mean, it was like something out of Goodfellas.
And then the White House was involved.
And I'm told, yeah, they're threatening everybody.
And then they basically indict Mark Cuban.
mike norris
Yeah.
alex jones
And then it all came out in the New York Times later that they called him and sent emails that were going to get you, you bastard.
You know, we send messages.
Jake Bloom wasn't involved in that, he was just in some of these meetings.
I'm just saying, what a character.
And Sumner Redstone's top representative, you know, I'm not going to get into other names that were there, but I mean, I've just seen it firsthand.
I mean, this is not a game.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
alex jones
None of this is a game.
mike norris
No, this is not a game.
And media is impacting our culture in such a huge way right now with the music, with just what you can pull up on the Internet right now.
So we have to, you know, yeah, there are problems that we need to address and that, you know, issues that Gary's passionate about that I'm able to kind of help facilitate that, things that I'm passionate about that Gary is able to help facilitate me.
So it's really been a huge blessing for him and I to come together.
alex jones
Absolutely.
mike norris
We're so much.
alex jones
You've got a lot of websites.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
alex jones
What's the best?
mike norris
You know what?
alex jones
Talk about some of your new films.
I want you to do it.
mike norris
Well, we've got a film out right now that's called Missionaries with Tom Arnold, Jamie Kennedy, Paul Rodriguez, Gigi Rice, about a family of flying missionaries. - Yes.
It's released by Pure Flix who did God's Not Dead, Do You Believe?
That's in any Christian bookstore anywhere in the world and soon coming to TV.
alex jones
The answer is you've got to get all these to support the industry that's countering the globalists and then so your kids have something good to watch.
mike norris
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
alex jones
I want to shift gears back into any other Steve McQueen stories.
Any more?
Come on.
Chuck Norris.
People want this lore.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
This Cromulan lore.
mike norris
I'm 19, 20, 21.
Somewhere in there.
And we used to train.
We'd meet at my dad's house every morning, 7 o'clock, and we'd train.
We had this guy named Jean-Claude Van Damme driving a little piece of junk rabbit up the street, getting out.
Chuck Norris, Jean-Claude Van Damme, myself.
I mean, all these, not me, but all these really great people.
So we trained, I mean, every morning, hours.
And we were in great shape.
And I'll never forget, one day my dad goes, hey, let's all kind of spar around together.
And I'm like, OK, great.
So, you know, I'd spar with Van Damme.
We'd spar around then.
My dad and I kind of come up, and we're sparring.
unidentified
And I go, oh, boy, he kind of kicked me hard right there.
mike norris
So I kind of throw one back.
alex jones
Van Damme?
mike norris
No, my dad.
unidentified
Oh.
mike norris
Kill Van Damme.
But, and so I go, God, boy, that kick was awfully hard by my dad.
And so I kind of threw one back and my dad, like all of a sudden this, whoa, came on.
And next thing I know, it was like, and I'm on my back and I'm looking up at my dad looking over at me.
And I just kind of look up and I go, mom.
And boy, did I learn a very valuable lesson.
alex jones
I was talking to Joe Rogan, who in his own right was a champion Taekwondo guy in his way, host of UFC.
And he was saying if Chuck Norris was 25-30 today, he'd be a top UFC contender.
mike norris
Because he was the smartest fighter.
He wasn't the strongest.
He wasn't the fastest.
He was the smartest.
And that is something I admire so much about my dad is he will set one goal and he will fight and go after that one goal.
If it's picking up this coffee cup, man, he will make that happen.
But my father's lived that as a creed his whole life, setting goals for yourself and achieving small goals at a time.
For the ultimate plan.
So these are awesome things that I've been able to take away from my father and implement into my own life.
As well as a lot of things Gary has brought into my wife Valerie and I's world with our kids.
Just having somebody... You guys are good buddies.
You know what?
He's the best.
You guys have no idea.
unidentified
If you really got to spend some time with him... Oh, he's definitely magnetic.
mike norris
He is.
alex jones
He was saying he was going to mentor me on some business stuff.
I really appreciate it.
mike norris
Oh gosh.
alex jones
Anyways, we're about to finish up this hour, do five minutes of overdrive and we're gonna get some lunch.
You guys have been awesome.
But specifically...
Well, I mean, he writes about it in WorldNet daily.
And I guess we could try to get your dad back on.
I know he's just been super busy.
I don't like to bug him a lot.
mike norris
It's called the ranch.
alex jones
Absolutely.
But I guess he likes Huckabee.
And I saw Huckabee come out and criticize the TSA the other day.
He said, why aren't we groping grandmas?
We've got ISIS terrorists attacking.
I wish Chuck Norris would run for president.
mike norris
Yeah, you know what, I think what he's doing is going to help us much more than if Chuck Norris were president.
alex jones
No, I hear you.
Let me ask you this question.
Did you ever see your dad outside of a match have to defend himself or somebody else and take somebody out?
mike norris
I saw him come very close one time, and one thing my dad is a master of is self-control.
alex jones
And you say he was good like Obi-Wan Kenobi at defusing things?
mike norris
Absolutely.
His greatest trait is he could look at somebody and know, am I going to have to beat this guy's butt, or can I talk him down?
alex jones
Did that come from being a cop?
mike norris
I think it's part of his soul.
My dad has a very kind soul and he always wants to help somebody.
And I just think that comes from his DNA of wanting to help people.
And he's been great.
He's been great at it.
alex jones
When you think about your dad, Steve McQueen, give me a Steve McQueen, Chuck Norris story.
I know Steve McQueen got him into Hollywood, right?
mike norris
Yeah, you know, gosh, really the ones I know best are the ones that I'm involved in, unfortunately.
You know, going out to Indian Dunes in California and riding motorcycles.
His son Chad was a great motorcycle rider, went on to do films.
Just lost Steve McQueen way too soon, you know, way too soon.
He was a young man when he died.
alex jones
The good die young.
How old was he?
mike norris
I think in his fifties.
Steve McQueen was in his fifties when he died.
I think, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
mike norris
Some long, long time ago.
But it was a whole slew, but Donnie and Marie, Elvis!
unidentified
Yeah.
mike norris
I saw Elvis!
He's alive!
Well, he was in 72.
unidentified
Tell me your Elvis story.
alex jones
You know, um... Because I'm into Hollywood and hype, but these are Americana.
unidentified
Okay, uh, Elvis, um...
mike norris
Okay, you know, we all know about Elvis's wife leaving Elvis for a karate guy.
Yeah.
And these are all people in our immediate world.
As a kid, Mike Stone.
I mean, these are all like this.
I mean, that's like Priscilla leaving Gary to come to me.
gary heavin
There's not much chance of that.
mike norris
Um, but it was just fun and you know, it's fun to reflect back and go, wow, you know, none of us knew this was going to happen.
You know, my dad's just teaching how to punch and kick and look what, what has happened now and how blessed I am to be able to carry on that life.
alex jones
I hear you.
So tell Elvis, you saw Elvis showed up.
mike norris
Yeah.
alex jones
Tell me this story.
mike norris
I, you know what, he came to a karate class.
He had about 30 guys with him.
It was up in, uh, uh, the Hollywood, um, one of my dad's karate schools up near Hollywood.
Um, he kind of came in with his entourage and slick, uh, silk, uh, karate uniform.
alex jones
Oh my goodness.
mike norris
And it was out of there.
Hey, yeah, just, but it was the king, you know?
alex jones
The bizarreness of America then.
mike norris
Yeah.
alex jones
But it was a real bizarreness.
It was organic.
Now it's all fake.
mike norris
I, I, you know, I, I'm trying to catch up with social media.
I, I try, I, I've got, uh, I think four Twitter people following.
alex jones
What is your Twitter?
To quote Governor Perry.
mike norris
What is my Twitter?
I have no idea.
I have no idea what my Twitter is.
alex jones
He calls it Twitter Handle.
Yeah, it's Twitter Handle.
He calls it Tweeter Twitter.
mike norris
My kids do it.
alex jones
Hey, we're not gonna, but your dad I hear does not have a temper either.
I'm being sarcastic.
mike norris
Yeah, okay.
I've had a number of flying objects come at me on a movie set from my dad.
I, unfortunately, one time yelled, cut too soon.
alex jones
So he's Zen on one side, but the other's... Hammer the Dragon?
mike norris
Yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
And it's, you know what, I'm his son.
So, he can throw a walkie-talkie.
alex jones
I have a jumper.
I threw one of these microphones yesterday.
Hold on, we'll be right back.
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And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
The enemy is showing itself more and more.
alex jones
Globalism is out in the open.
It is legendary, it is epic, it is biblical that Texas is resisting the way it is.
My uncle that died last year, this is a total sweetheart, Vietnam helicopter veteran pilot with special operations.
Taught me so much of what I know.
My dad taught me probably more, but my uncle was a close second.
He listened to Pastor David J. Smith, which I think is still around.
I don't ever have time to listen to him.
Up in Waxahachie.
And Smith wasn't the type that was constantly saying he had visions about this and visions about that.
But he was kind of a mainline preacher.
I think it was up in Oklahoma, like 30-something years ago, and he had a vision that a world government was going to take over.
And that Texas would be a stronghold against it.
And my uncle said that with his discernment and prayer that he knew that was true.
And that this is when I was already on the air.
And that basically I should tell people that and try to help folks make preparation for it.
Of course I never did.
I've never spoken of this until now.
And then now I just see Texas across the board resisting.
And the first place to start with a giant, a sleeping giant, is starting to wake up as world government and smart dust and TVs watching everybody.
I mean, my God!
Global abortion.
Like I said, none of us are safe when the veterans can be put on don't treat list and they just spin the whole thing like, oh, the VA screwed up.
That'd be like saying Jeffrey Dahmer screwed up.
No, he didn't screw up, man.
It was premeditated.
John Wayne Gacy was premeditated.
Ted Bundy was premeditated.
I'm tired of it!
And I'll be honest with you.
I don't like messing with these dangerous people.
But if you're gonna mess with them, because they're not gonna quit messing with us, you better go all the way.
And that's just all I can tell you is, man, I wish every day I'd been wrong about all this stuff.
I mean, I wish every day that I was wrong.
And you know what?
I wasn't wrong about any of it.
I'll tell you why I wasn't wrong about any of it.
Because I just began studying this and getting on the trail of it after all these great people John Birchers, FBI agents, cops, people like my uncle, scholars like my dad, countless other people when I was a kid talked about all this and my heavenly father.
I cannot believe how right they were and how they were fighting so hard back then when nobody knew the Federal Reserve was private and nobody knew what was going on to warn people so we'd have a defense down the road when all of this came down.
Because once the shields fall and real tyranny comes in, they're coming after everybody, folks.
And I don't mean people that just fought evil.
They hate anyone who is upright and beautiful and strong and who has built something.
These people have a will to dominate.
The next guy we got coming up gets persecuted for planting city gardens.
They just hate normal human life.
Men and women loving each other.
Families.
Gardening.
Farmers.
Ranching.
Metallurgy.
Physical fitness.
Wholesomeness.
And it doesn't mean those of us that want wholesomeness are on some high horse or are perfect.
It just means we want to gravitate towards that.
Look, there's not room for both groups of evil and good.
Do you understand that?
The evil wants to extinct good.
And to see the amazing awakening happening is buoying and invigorating but also horrifying because man, the enemy is freaked out right now and they're gonna attack like- Osama Bin Laden was a 9-11 truther?
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The Department of Homeland Security is apparently on a huge ammo buying spree.
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Us.
So part of it is we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents or kids belong to their families and recognize that kids belong to whole communities.
If you've got a business, you didn't build that.
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Alright, coming up to about 40 after, and then I'm going to get into the over-the-top ISIS news.
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Civil forfeiture, you can't make this stuff up.
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More Jade Helm I haven't gotten to yet.
Benjamin Franklin said, distrust and caution are the parents of security.
He also said security without liberty is called prison.
Both apply to what I want to show you today in my Culture Warrior column.
That's Chuck Norris.
And to be a little blasphemous, but not intentionally, I mean it's a joke.
If Chuck Norris be with us and for us, who be against us?
Alright, that's a little too far on the Chuck Norris jokes.
But, I first heard about all this from the whole Norris Combine about Jade Helm and stuff several months ago, and I talked about it.
I said, huge military news with the governor, with stuff that's going on with the feds, the state knows what's going on.
Well, of course the state knows.
I mean, we've had half our power plants seized outside of law and just shut off.
And that all ties into the war on lemonade stands that Forbes asked a few years ago.
Why is there a war on lemonade stands?
Why is there a war on Amish?
Why is there a war on backyard gardens?
And they said in Tulsa, we want inspections, you might be growing pie.
Because there's nothing worse than a backyard garden, folks.
Or zone people harassing folks for tomatoes growing in their windows or whatever.
Yeah, there's the headline, the inexplicable war on lemonade stands.
No, it's big mega box stores that want to end normal human activity and have giant food deserts everywhere.
Let me tell you, one of the most enjoyable things, I don't have time to do it anymore, my kids do it.
It's so much fun to go out and till the soil.
We got nine acres out in the country, outside Austin, just a little plot on the end.
Fruit trees on it and stuff.
It's so much fun to pick the plums and pick the apples and pick the, you know, different things that are out there.
It's so much fun to pick the...
Spinach and picked the squash and to even grow our own pumpkins and things like that.
And it's just so simple.
You plant it, you take care of it, it grows.
My favorite is hot peppers.
I mean, you're talking about for a couple dollars you could have a whole field of pepper plants growing.
You could take them to a farmer's market and sell them.
But there's a war against that.
And I remember reading about Johnny Appleseed three years ago, and I remember reading about him in school, but I re-read about Johnny Appleseed in seven states.
It's estimated planting over a million apple trees and other fruit trees and teaching people how to take care of themselves.
Well, Germany forever plants stuff in the highway right-of-ways.
And local community groups just go and they just pick an area and they just plant fruit trees and stuff and they go and pick them and they eat them and they can them and they sell them or whatever.
Well, here though, that's the new crime.
And I didn't even know this guy was doing this.
I separately, you can watch the video at the Infowars Seed Center.
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Because Monsanto's in a war to buy up all the seeds with two other GMO companies and just basically ban their sale.
But these are groups still doing it, everything you need to survive.
And I've explained that even in urban areas, we've gone out and shown this on video, you can go to the middle of a You know, the highway in the middle of the woods with some little 200 square foot open area of the sun, dig it up, plant tomatoes, and get more tomatoes than you can ever even harvest.
This is nature's bounty.
Ron Finley has had arrest warrants issued for him out in LA trying to get this going.
And the studies show you get young people growing things, or you get young people even with a fish tank or a dog to take care of, but especially plants.
We release hormones, it's been shown, that calm us when we're out in the garden with the bees and the sunflowers and the watermelons and just everything.
It's so much fun to do this.
It's a normal human agrarian activity.
And there's the Ron Finley Project.
Here I was saying, copy Johnny Appleseed, and then Nico a few months ago said, have you heard about this guy in the LA Times and places?
Who they've tried to arrest and fine and fee because he dares to go into these, you know, government lots with weeds everywhere and plant stuff and then other people get involved and they start planting and then they start demanding, hey, we want part of this city park that nobody uses for a city garden.
And next they're going to want chickens in their backyards.
Next they're going to want to be independent humans.
See, the globalists don't want us to be self-sufficient.
This is the essence of the plantation.
The essence of the reservation is you can't be self-sufficient.
And that's the plan.
RonFinley.com Very, very, crowdrise.com, Ron Finley HQ.
Very exciting what Ron's doing.
I mean, this guy is just over the top with the success he's had, but also the persecution.
To show you, we're not in Kansas anymore, folks.
When they said they had victory gardens in World War II, now they come after you.
Ron, thank you for sitting there during that long babbling introduction, but something like you're doing is so amazing, my friend.
ron finley
Thank you.
Thank you so much for having me here, Alex.
I appreciate it.
And what you're what you're saying is so correct, man.
This is so on point.
And so, I mean, it's basically, you know, it's like slavery, man, for all of us, you know, because, you know, they control the food, they control you.
And we're trying to redesign that system.
alex jones
It's a total revolution.
If everybody started planting gardens in their areas and learned what you could do with rooftops, well, you're the expert.
Tell us about this revolution.
What got you started?
ron finley
See, everybody says that, Alex, that I'm not an expert.
I'm a fashion designer.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm just some guy that decided to put a carrot, you know, in the ground and all hell broke loose.
alex jones
But you are an expert by taking action.
I mean, that's what makes you an expert, is that you've actually done it.
I mean, come on.
ron finley
But I mean, we're all experts.
Alex, we're all experts.
This is in all of us.
This is in all of us, man.
It is that.
It's just doing something.
And like you said about your children, man, if you put them out there, they're learning a life skill.
This is not frivolous.
You know, this is something that they can take with them and we'll take with them the rest of their life.
But we have these areas that I call them food prisons, they call them food deserts, that these kids have no skin in the game.
Their whole life has been predestined for them.
They don't have any kind of, they don't even dream, man.
It's sad talking to some of these kids and they don't know.
They already are born with barcodes on the back of their neck.
alex jones
I want to talk about you.
We're going to break in a moment, but I want to come back and give you the floor.
Talk about, though, your awakening, how this started, and then how you got attacked, and from what I've seen, that backfired and made it even bigger.
Okay.
We're going to break in about a minute, but I mean, how did this get started?
ron finley
Uh, well, basically, I remember going to the store and there was, um, I, you know, I picked up a tomato and it says, maybe, uh, coated with shellac.
And I was like, wow, shellac on my tomato?
Isn't that what we put on wood and wood shop when I was in, you know, grade school?
And I was, and, and it just, and you just start looking and you just open your eyes one day and you're like, wow, you know, this is, and you go to other cities, you go to other places.
And you realize that all of this is by design.
This bad food, these, like you talk, the medical-industrial complex, the prison-industrial complex, the military-industrial complex.
And you realize, like, wow, these kids are on a track to go absolutely nowhere.
But, you know, to... Amazing.
alex jones
So it's all started with a tomato, with shellac, that'll give you kidney failure, in your face.
Ron Finley, ronfinley.com.
We're going to come back and talk about your story.
It's simply incredible.
Then we're going to get into how folks can get involved and stop these food prisons.
This is true revolution.
Peaceful revolution.
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I want more video games!
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Don't know much biology.
Don't know much about a science book.
Don't know much about the French I took.
But I do know that I love you.
And I know that if you love me.
alex jones
I have good will towards people, and the system wants to eradicate that because free will gets in the way of the corporatist program.
The reason I get so excited about city gardening, but also rural gardening, truck farms, you name it, is that everything the social engineers are doing, as our guest said, is about ending that.
He's agreed to show us for the whole hour, so at about 40 after, I'm going to give the number out, we're going to take some calls about your stories of city gardening or articles you want to talk about where people get in trouble for gardening in their front yard or their backyard.
This is a real attempt to intimidate people, but if we start doing this, it can circumvent the Monsanto tyranny, all of it.
Remember, they just cut the fluoride in the water in half this week.
We're having major victories.
McDonald's is starting to take the GMO out.
We're having victories with our actions.
And plants, seeds, are so magic.
That you can plant a little seed and a whole mustard tree grows.
You can have mustard for 20 years from it.
Or you can plant a seed and a pecan tree grows, or an apple tree, or strawberries.
I mean, this is nanotech.
God's nanotech.
I'm going to shut up because this is a short segment, long segment coming up with Ron Finley, ronfinley.com.
I know you don't like talking about yourself during the break.
You're like, I don't want to brag about myself.
Talk about your story, what you've done in L.A., the thousands you've inspired, but also the persecution you went through.
So you see this tomato with shellac, that begins the wheels going.
Tell people your story.
ron finley
Well, I mean, it was the tomato with shellac, Alex, but it was also, I mean, that was just like almost the tipping point or, you know, the straw.
And you just look around and all of a sudden you realize that all you see is asphalt and concrete.
And my whole thing, like you was saying, I don't want my food loco.
I want my food hyper loco.
You know, why in this desert that we live in in California, why are we watering grass when you can use the less water and water and grow food, which is what we need here?
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And why aren't yards full of all this beautiful food?
ron finley
Right, exactly.
Well, I mean, what happened with my story, you know, after I got persecuted, you know, had to go to court the first time, I decided years later, I thought they forgot about it and I did it again.
And so, basically got thrown under the bus again.
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Tell folks what you did, though.
alex jones
I mean, it's amazing.
Were you planning what they did?
ron finley
We have these in front of the, they're called parkways.
It's like right before you get to the street, that strip of land, you know, strip of grass.
Like in East Pitch, I'm standing in the street.
So I decided to just remove my grass.
I sheet mulched it with cardboard, a lot of it.
And I planted food.
But first, Alex, it started only for beautification of my block, of my neighborhood.
I mean, I wanted to be kissed by hummingbirds every day.
I wanted to see butterflies.
I wanted to smell lavender and jasmine and rosemary.
So that's where it started.
And so then I started, and then it came down again.
And long story short, I took 150 feet by 10, by about 9, 10 feet, and I made a food forest that I wanted to feed.
I wanted my neighbors basically to see, look, you can design your own life and you can start here.
I use it as a canvas.
I use the soil, Alex.
That's, that's my, that's, this is my street art.
This is my graffiti and that's how I treat it.
But also it beautifies.
It purifies, and it's all, you're cleaning the air, you're bringing in pollinators, you're bringing in all kinds of insects, and you're feeding people.
But also, it's multi-layered, because people pass by, and like you were saying, they see these flowers, they see this, it's color therapy, Alex.
You know?
alex jones
It ups the value of the neighborhood, too.
ron finley
Exactly, exactly.
And in that, it changes people's perspective.
It changes their mind.
People are smiling.
I mean, and you're having conversations that you would never have had, you know, just because... Well, you're also a really good gardener.
alex jones
I've looked at photos in the news about you and your own site.
You've got a green thumb.
ron finley
I got green hands, Alex.
Not just my thumbs, you know.
But I want people, I put it on the street because I want people to realize you can do this.
You know, treat this like your canvas.
And people like ask me, well, where do you start?
I'm like, at the beginning.
And they're like, where's that?
I said, wherever you start.
When you get a canvas, you decide where you're going to put that first brush stroke.
alex jones
It could start with a box plant with some peppers and tomatoes in your window.
And that one tomato plant and pepper plant's gonna have so much food, you're gonna, I mean, it's just incredible.
Every week, they're, look, we have no culture.
They've taken our culture, the most human culture is agrarian, and you are a revolutionary taking back our culture.
I'm gonna get your take on that.
Ron Finley, a true revolutionary, ronfinley.com, an example to everybody.
Straight ahead, on the other side, and we'll open the phones up, but...
I mean, they had arrest warrants out, they fined him, they came after him, but it blew up in their face and now they've had to capitulate.
It's a victory story.
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The Empire's on the run.
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Okay, Ron Finley, ronfinley.com.
Get more into what you've done since then.
I was reading the news, other people have picked up on it.
There are other community garden programs around the country, but usually the government says, here's the spot, you can do it, far removed, away from people's homes.
Really, before we go to calls, at 800-259-9231, 800-259-9231.
Before we do that, you've got the floor for the next ten minutes.
Give us a speech.
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Give us a speech.
Tell us where you stand, what you've done, where this is going.
ron finley
Right now, Alex, the law has been changed in Los Angeles where you can now plant edibles on your parkway in front of your house.
Awesome.
alex jones
on it.
ron finley
The mayor signed it last month.
So, I mean, it is.
It's a big victory.
And like you said, yeah, the parkways are cool.
If you put them together, that's acres and acres and acres of space.
But I want some of these vacant lots, man.
I want people to be able to walk outside of their house now.
next door and be able to engage with their community.
Gardens build communities, period.
And like you said, man, this is a-- people ask me what I do.
And I'm like, I change culture.
That's what I do.
And that's what we have to do, man.
We have to get back to being self-sufficient.
You know, like you said, they-- this-- they don't-- people ask me, why you call it gangster?
I say, this is gangster.
You want to know what true gangster is?
It's being self-sufficient.
It's building your community.
It's not, it's not, it's not tearing it down.
You know, it's, it's, it's, it's educating.
It's helping people.
That's, to me, that's, that's the, you know, I got a hashtag, real gangsters grow, grow food.
You know, real G's grow flowers.
You know, and that's true to me, man.
It's like, all the lessons are in the soil.
You know, I don't grow food, I grow soil.
You know, because you are, people they tell us, you are what you eat.
That's kind of not true, because you are what you eat eats.
You know, now if your soil is deficient of any kind of nutrients, what do you think your plants going to be?
What do you think your lettuces and your tomatoes?
They're not going to, they're not going to grow.
They're not going to prosper.
But the same thing, like you were saying earlier, everything starts from a seed.
We started from a seed, Alex.
And people, people get away from that concept, man, that, that look at what we turned into.
And the same thing, this little tiny seed can give you, you know, a 50-foot tree that gives you fruit year after year after year after year.
You know, we have to look at things different.
We have to look at even our so-called waste, Alex, we have to look at different.
You know, I tell people, you know, people think leaves are debris and it's a pain and it's trash.
I'm like, no, no, leaves are a resource.
You know, a leaf falls for a reason in a particular season.
That's by design.
You know, and we need to stop trying to change Mother Earth's design and do biomimicry and mimic what she's doing.
Because who gardens in a forest, Alex?
If nobody.
So how the hell do we have 350 foot trees?
You know?
Because that's, because it's a divine plan and that's what happens.
alex jones
It's an incredible, it's magic and all the synergy and the harmony and absolutely, you know, when I had children my brain clicked and I...
Opened up a lot, but when you garden, it really is spiritual.
And that's why they don't want people doing it, because you zone out when you're doing it.
It's just programmed into us to be life givers, life builders, to work with the earth, to be positive.
ron finley
It means you need a garden.
You know, it becomes your solace.
And that's what I tell people, man.
The soil seduces you.
I mean, period.
And you got to think that's where we come from.
That's what we are, man.
And I'm trying to just get people back into where you can design your own life.
I talk to kids, Alex, they don't dream.
You know, and that bothers me, because a dream is free.
But you got people's minds to the point that they don't even dream?
That's control.
And I'm trying to break those terms.
alex jones
Well sure, everybody's inside in these food prisons, in these neighborhoods with no plants, and they're in there watching TV.
Watching these incredibly unhappy rich people, because I know a bunch of them, thinking that they aren't adequate and they've got to follow what this is saying.
We're being farmed by the corporatists.
It's time to get out of that system, get outside, and start doing this.
And, I mean, it really is in my gut, but also intellectually, I know this is one of the keys to really overturning this system peacefully.
Because they sell us on violent revolutions the way to go.
Well, that's because they can win that every day.
But a velvet revolution of culture, of art, of food, of literature, of gardening, that's something the system can't beat.
Because it's so innately human, you just do it, as you were saying, and everybody comes.
You don't have to sell anything.
ron finley
No.
And you know, I had some folks here, they did a march against Monsanto.
And I'm like, and people like, Ron, everyone was expecting you to be at the march.
And I'm like, why were they expecting me to be there?
I'm like, I didn't, I mean, hey, Monsanto don't really care about you guys marching.
You know what I'm saying?
All the thousands, how many people was there?
I said, you know what I did?
I had, that day I had 60 people putting in a garden.
So now imagine, If you had all those people that were marching and doing that, which is cool.
I mean, people need to march.
But just imagine, Alex, if that energy went into all those people putting in gardens.
I mean, there's your fight against Monsanto.
alex jones
Exactly.
That's what I always say.
Vote with your dollars.
Vote with your action.
If the 10,000 great people that marched in almost every city, like 10,000 in Austin, even more I know in other areas, if they all went and put in a garden or a plant, that would overturn Monsanto in a year.
I mean, there'd be so much fresh non-GMO food everywhere, it'd be crazy.
And what are they going to do, SWAT team us for growing tomatoes?
I mean, we're that close if people just get into this.
ron finley
No, that's one of the jokes I tell about my garden, you know.
I said, all of a sudden, you know, I plant a tomato, next thing I know, you know, we got a black guy planting a tomato.
Okay, we're going to need backup.
You know, it was like that.
You know, they call SWAT because, you know, hey, he's got cabbage on his street.
You know, we got to do something about that.
It's ridiculous, man.
And we got to break these slave chains.
And I'm talking about everybody because they own our food.
They control our food.
So, therefore, they control us.
alex jones
Well, look at how they've been waging war against the American farmer for 70, 80 years.
These robber barons know what they're doing.
ron finley
Yeah, and the thing about it, they're depleting all the resources from the soil to the water while they're doing it.
And they're creating all these super bugs and super weeds, you know, because of the toxic sprays.
And everything is a new rare cancer now.
Every day you go, oh, she has a rare cancer.
alex jones
I was about to say, I've studied this architecture of this evil.
It's so hard to be as evil as they are.
unidentified
I mean, how did they come up with something... You're doing so good there, Alex.
ron finley
Do what?
How do they do it so well, then?
alex jones
Yeah, no, I'm saying it's just so... I mean, they are so evil.
I mean, when you really study them, they know what they're doing.
I mean, they... These are some smooth operators.
ron finley
That's one of those, don't hate the player, hate the game kind of thing.
They know that if we can do what they do, it's good.
As they do.
I mean, oh man, the world would be a beautiful place.
But my word has spread literally, Alex, around the world.
I mean, from North Korea to Africa, man.
I've spoken in Qatar and Oman and Greece.
And I got a garden named after me in Brussels, UK.
alex jones
So I was about to say, you are a testament to one man or one woman, one human, taking action, not thinking it'd be big, not doing it to be Mr. Cool, already successful in your own right, and it just resonated and is already changing the world.
That is the microcosm, the archetype, of what will defeat this system.
ron finley
And I mean, the thing about with me, Alex, I didn't even, I wasn't even trying.
I tell people I'm the most reluctant anarchist, not an activist.
alex jones
Not saying you're an anarchist against the corporate system.
Organic anarchy.
ron finley
Anarchist.
You know, my card says head troublemaker, you know?
But I mean, none of this was planned, Alex.
So if I could do this without the plan, without the blueprint, and it, and it, and it, where I have guys, uh, I'm on the, talking about me on the news in Brazil, you know, where they took over a lot outside their apartment building, now they're taking over another lot because it's so successful, man.
That's what I want to hear, man.
unidentified
That's, uh, that, that... I call it life revolution.
alex jones
Spreading life, getting aggressive.
Yeah, man, I tell you it's exciting what you're doing.
I want to take a few phone calls, but ronfinley.com, people can go there, they can see what you've done, they can augment it, do their own thing.
I just want to challenge everybody today, this is the season to do it.
Start planting, even if it's just some sunflowers, some tomatoes, some peppers.
Whatever it is you're into, I mean, if you live on the West Coast or areas that are good, you know, plant some grapes, plant some tomatoes, plant some lemons, some limes, some whatever.
It's just so exciting to do this.
Ron Finley is our guest, changing the world by taking action.
Just simply amazing.
We've got Terrence, Renee, Joseph, Stephen, Ray, and many others.
Let's go ahead and talk to Terrence first in California, in your neck of the woods.
The guy we have on the line, Ron Finley of ronfinley.com, just got the second most populous city in North America, well I guess Mexico City's bigger than New York, so third most populous city in North America, to legalize planting food in the right-of-ways.
How incredible is that?
Go ahead, you're on the air, Terrence.
ron finley
How you doing, Terrence?
unidentified
Good afternoon, gentlemen.
Pleasure to meet you, Ron and Alex.
Ron, I got a question for you.
What do you think about the geoengineering that's going on with the California drought?
Alex had a guest on some time ago from StopTheCrime.net and she discusses different things about the Monsanto group purposely putting things into the clouds to prevent the rain while causing more rain and more devastation in the Midwest with their snowstorms and depriving us of our We know geoengineering is going on, but they classify what they're doing, just like you mentioned super weeds, antibiotic resistant stuff from the chickens and everything else.
alex jones
Are you aware of the larger program of manipulating the weather?
ron finley
No, I mean, no.
I mean, you see it though.
I mean, it's funny because even guys that fly the planes, they, oh, those are, those are comm trails.
That's every, yeah.
Why are they in this pattern, dude?
Why all of a sudden do they dissipate and they join together and all of a sudden we have this cloud cover?
Um, it's, it's, um, I don't know.
See, here, it doesn't benefit California, which is one of the biggest agricultural states in the United States of America.
alex jones
They want to bankrupt the whole thing?
ron finley
Well, who's that going to be?
That's not going to benefit the powers that be, the biggest landowners in this state, though, Alex.
I mean, if their whole thing is about money, Alex, why would they want to bankrupt it?
alex jones
You just brought up the key point because it's beyond that.
They've got the ultra-rich, but there's people above that that are long-term.
Once they bankrupt it for a decade, they can come in and buy it all up and be the breadbasket for the next 200 years for all of North America.
It's long-term players.
Terrence, great question.
Renee in South Dakota, you're on the air.
Welcome.
unidentified
Well, I just want to say that in the 1920s, there were no grocery stores.
So where was the groceries?
It was in the gardens.
nancy schaefer
It was in the homes.
seema mathur
It was on the farms.
nancy schaefer
It was all local.
You know, you didn't have to go to the grocery store.
unidentified
Now they got us.
nancy schaefer
They know that.
And I've been planting my plants.
unidentified
I've been buying just straight seeds, and I've been putting them in plastic containers.
And I've got about, I've got a whole garden full of seeds for one person.
I'm probably going to be giving away everything by the end of my season.
And, I mean, my tomatoes are already two feet high.
nancy schaefer
I planted them two weeks ago.
unidentified
I just threw some seeds in, and it's amazing to watch the seeds come up.
ron finley
You got magic soil, Renee.
unidentified
Yeah.
ron finley
Two feet in two weeks?
That's crazy.
unidentified
Well, no, maybe it's been about three weeks.
But I mean, really, I mean, I've been blessing my plants every day.
And I mean, you know, they do respond.
It's amazing just seeing the watermelon seeds come up and them sprouting out of the soil.
And, you know, I throw a little cup of water on them each day in my windowsill.
alex jones
That's what Ron said, though.
I love how you're out in your garden and a little hummingbird flies up right by your face and then winks at you and flies off.
I mean, let me tell you, gardens are a lot better than watching TV.
I mean, I'm here to tell you.
ron finley
No, literally you get seduced.
I mean, I, you know, I've known, I've gone out in the morning to watch stuff and all of a sudden it's four hours later when you were only supposed to be out there 20 minutes, you know.
No, I, it's like, it becomes your solace, literally, in your meditation.
I, on my parkway, I've actually have seating that I made out of logs, man, and you can come and people are sitting out there having coffee, and I mean, the bottom line, if you build it, it's gonna, people... Well, it's been said that make art, make culture, that will defeat the globalist.
Oh, totally, totally, totally.
And that's what it's all about is showing people how creative they can be and giving them the ideas, man, because we have to show a lot of people that they have the ability to dream.
You know, we have to show, look, look at this.
You can dream about this.
A lot of times people need help with that.
And I mean, that's what I think we're here to do.
alex jones
And a garden's something you can do.
You can dream it, you can grow it, you can have success, you can get better, it can build competency.
This whole system is about making you think you have no power except through the system.
Rene, thank you.
Joseph, Steven, and others, stay with us.
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Everybody knows.
Yeah.
Everybody knows that the days are loaded.
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed.
Everybody knows the war is over.
Everybody knows the good guys lost.
alex jones
Ron Finley, ronfinley.com is our guest.
Maybe he'll do five more minutes the next hour and take more of your calls and see if he can stay with us, but I'm gonna cut over all the other news after he's gone.
It's not over simplistic to say going back to the soapbox, going back to the Back to having your neighbors over for a barbecue, going back to having a garden, going back to disconnecting the television a few hours a day and taking your kids off the video games, going fishing, going playing a softball game.
I mean, just anything that's normal human activity that's not in this big globalist combine.
And nothing like microagriculture is more powerful.
That's why they're targeting Amish.
It's why they're going after, like I said earlier, any type of farmers markets, raw milk.
It's why I've seen in LA where they go after these co-op places where people are coming and selling their produce.
It's all done in the name of safety, but it's done to dominate and control people.
Prisoners can't grow their own food.
That's what it comes down to.
Ron Finley, I want to take some more phone calls here, but anything else you'd like to add before we go to Joseph and others?
ron finley
No, just, I mean, you hit it on the head with the whole prisoner things.
I mean, people think because they can get into their swanky cars and drive around that they're not in prison.
I mean, and that's why I call these food prisons.
You know, like you said, you can't grow your own food in prison.
And that's, the fact that they have outlaw, you know, this is, you get in, you become a criminal because you plant a carrot.
It's ridiculous, man.
It has to change.
And like you said earlier in the segment, we're seeing the fall, man.
We're seeing, you know, McDonald's, some of those are closing.
We're seeing them coming, oh, they're slowly changing.
Natural Chicken, a lot of the stuff they're cutting out, you know.
alex jones
And that's because people are voting with their dollars.
ron finley
Exactly, and they see they have to.
Their sales are down and they're like, okay, now we, it's terrible that we have to take it to this point for them to do the right thing.
Why are you selling me toxic food in the first place?
You know, like with the thing with Dunkin' Donuts, where they had the powdered sugar, it was supposed to be not powdered sugar, it was supposed to be some chemical or something that, you know, that looked like powdered sugar on the donut.
Why are you, you know, why are you doing this to us?
alex jones
Yeah, why would you do something that somebody wouldn't want done to you?
It's just, it's just a fundamental predatory nature.
And as you said, the worm is turning.
Very exciting times.
Joseph in California, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hey, I have a question.
Pleasure to be on your show, but I have a question for Finley.
What do you think is the state's government role in agriculture?
And for Jones, you just mentioned co-ops.
Do you have like Do you think there should be a balance between socialism and crony capitalism?
Because, you know, I'm what, I used to be a cookie-cutter liberal, but now I'm a libertarian, and I just think there should be a balance between the two.
alex jones
Sure, listen, when you hear the term co-op, that has a communist connotation, they had co-ops for that.
All that means is people kind of come in as a group, share some of their profits to pay for the facility and for upkeep, but then people make profits.
So I'm talking about co-ops based on, but again, co-ops only work on the micro.
Okay, that's why small is beautiful, and that's what I've seen work in my own life.
But that's my view.
What's your take on that, Ron?
ron finley
Well, I mean, that's what I want.
As you well know, Alex, you cannot eat all the food that you grow.
It's impossible.
That's all you will be doing is eating.
alex jones
We're so productive, we gotta share.
ron finley
If you had a block that was like a co-op where you grow carrots and onions and I grow lettuce and tomatoes and Sally grows cucumbers.
So now you don't have to grow all your food because you can trade between your nations.
alex jones
Exactly!
That's not communism.
That's human activity interaction.
Stay there.
Do five more minutes with us.
RonFinley.com.
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