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Welcome to this live worldwide broadcast, Wednesday, the 18th day of March 2015.
I'm your host, Alex Jones.
William Benny, the highest level NSA whistleblower ever, who was SWAT team-raided after he spoke to Congress, and who has since vindicated, will be joining us in studio here in Austin, Texas today.
We're also going to be talking to the head of the Organic Consumers Association, Catherine Paul.
Their organization was set to speak at a major event about food quality and safety at South by Southwest.
But Big Pharma and Big Biotech, Monsanto-connected groups, had anyone, not just their organization that was already set six months ago to speak, banned.
Gene Giant kicks OCA off a Southwest Food Panel discussion.
So this shows what a totalitarian, sanitized, anti-human event this is, and why I've been going after it every day here, as it's a showcase of how the globalists propagandize and try to shape culture.
That said, we knew this was coming when they kept the FCC regulations secret, when they wouldn't testify before Congress.
And now we've got the 400 pages.
FCC chairman concedes, and there's video, that future internet tax is possible after all.
And the FCC's proposed those before.
The FCC's tried to take over the internet before.
They've proposed things.
They want cable.
All telecommunications.
And they got big backlashes.
But then when they came forward as the saviors, and George Soros funded 196 million to all the fake leftist groups, why then it was racist, literally, according to them, if you didn't hand over the internet to the government and the corporations that control it.
The ultimate Trojan horsey.
That's just some of the news.
A backyard burger and wiener roast targeted by EPA.
Told you they're banning fireplaces and outdoor roasts in Europe.
Now it's happening in the United States.
Also, EPA wants to monitor how long hotel guests spend in the shower.
Can't make that up.
Meanwhile, Detroit businesses face water shutoffs, even if you try to pay for it.
This is all part of the deindustrialization program.
There'll be no shortage of cream and other goodies up in the Globalist Command Centers.
Continuing, White Privilege Conference Workshop pushes grade school, that's K through 5th grade, lessons about gender, queer, transgender, and gender fluids.
That's right, let's teach the first graders about things I can't even say on the air and wouldn't want to say on air.
And then we've got just more police videos being released.
This one of a woman already being tortured, begging for help so the sergeant starts choking her.
And then they did an investigation and said he acted admirably.
This is a society breaking down when they defend this type of torture that they call pain compliance.
And you watch the video, the cops are all getting off on it.
These are bad people, in my view.
Very shameful.
And defending it, if you're a cop, will help bring down the country, which is part of the Globalist's larger plan.
In really big economic news, again I'm going to detail all the things I mention when we come back, China gaining Western allies as development bank partners, a blow to US efforts, and that ties into an article on Infowars.com.
Cracks in Washington's empire.
Washington's EU vassals might be finding their backbone, joining the new communist Chinese system.
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Ladies and gentlemen, we are live broadcasting worldwide from Austin, Texas.
It is...
It is Wednesday, the 18th day of March, 2015.
I'm your host, Alex Jones.
The highest level whistleblower pretty much ever.
Not just from the NSA, but from the federal government in the last hundred years, in my summation, is William Binney.
He was one of the top guys at the National Security Agency, directed much of their technology systems He, of course, in the last decade, quietly tried to warn Congress and others within the system, got SWAT teamed, got attacked, you name it.
He is here in Austin, Texas.
He was here for South by Southwest.
He agreed to stay an extra day to be in studio with us.
We're going to be interviewing him.
For some documentary reports we're putting together and live in studio in the third hour.
In fact, maybe we should do a document cam or a studio cam shot for TV viewers and show folks William Benny in there in the control room watching the show right now.
And again, he'll be in studio with us coming up in the third hour today.
So I am extremely excited about that.
There's William Benny right there.
We can punch him up.
Give him a little bit of a round of applause.
If you are a radio listener, you can go to Infowars.com forward slash show to see the free video feeds right there to add another dimension to the radio broadcast.
But this is a radio broadcast, first and foremost, probably 90% of our audience is terrestrial AM and FM.
Radio.
But we have a large audience as well watching over the internet and some cable and TV systems around the United States and it adds another dimension to it because our radio listeners can then go actually see what we're talking about here on air when we deploy reporters to Europe or to Asia or to Latin America or to right here in Austin, Texas to be covering the different developments here at South by Southwest.
We've already seen a protest against the rise of AI systems suppressing humanity.
That story went national.
We covered it over the weekend.
And we're also, of course, covering the fact that it's not just the NSA illegally spying on people.
It's Google.
It's Microsoft.
It's all the big companies have been caught doing it.
And they don't get in trouble.
And that's because it's part of a revolution.
A overall culture of corruption to just change the way this planet operates.
And I'm not so much worried Myself, about artificial intelligence coming after us at this time.
I'm worried about the fact that human intelligence is what is controlling and basically pulling the strings on the Panopticon surveillance grid.
They've got all these movies coming out, Robo-Apocalypse, that we're going to have the writer on, I think Friday, where It's basically an expansion of maximum overdrive where the appliances and the cars start killing everybody?
Well, I'm not really worried about that.
I'm worried about the fact that the appliance, the cars, the smart meters, the cell phones, the Hertz Rent-A-Cars, the Samsung TVs admit that they're watching and listening to us.
This is just a hidden in plain view Revolution against privacy and the data being gathered can be used to manipulate mass markets and mass human movements.
Because if you can surveil everything, you can also add stimulus and then control everything, including predicting the future to a great extent.
And Google admits that that's its main mission, is to predict the future and be an AI system.
So we're going to talk to William Binney about this in detail.
We're going to put out a hashtag in the next few minutes.
I haven't been given what that hashtag is yet.
We were developing that right before the show started.
So you can tweet your questions at RealAlexJones and so that we have those questions ahead of time before Mr. Benny joins us in studio.
So tweet your questions at RealAlexJones and again we'll put a hashtag out on that site here in the next few minutes so everybody can do that.
But there's the InfoWars.com crew.
We can go to that wide shot there.
I'm in here directing today and so folks can see our hard-working information warfare elves in there and quietly in the back.
William Benning.
Very, very exciting to have him here in the InfoWars News Studios.
Kathreen Paul will be joining us.
She's the head of OrganicConsumers.org, one of the largest organizations reporting on and doing studies on and organizing for the organic choices in this country.
They've been set up for months to speak at South by Southwest and with Whole Foods But Big Pharma and Big Agra did not want that so they've been banned.
We'll talk about what our presentation was going to be and what their organization's presentation was going to be before they were banned and exactly who banned them.
That story is up on InfoWars.com.
Gene Giant kicks OCA off South by Southwest food panel discussion.
And the new push by the FDA and the EPA is to not label anything and to even remove drug labels and vaccine labels so that we can't hold up an MMR vaccine label when they say it's safe and effective and show you where it says it can give you epilepsy, narcolepsy, cancer, where it says it could kill you, where it says it could cause pancreatitis and then diabetes.
It actually says that and we showed that a lot the last few weeks.
That will no longer be available.
Under the new legislation.
So there's a major push to shut down information and then to persecute people like William Benny who left the NSA back in 2001 when they started illegal spying against the American people in non-terror related operations.
And he quietly worked through the system, but it just didn't matter.
They still came after him, but he defeated that.
Others have not.
Many people are languishing, including journalists, in jail right now for telling the public things that they had a duty to tell us because they were illegal.
But we've gone from them under George Bush in 2005 or so denying that they spied on anybody illegally to now just throwing it in our face.
So where is this revolution against privacy going?
We'll be discussing that.
Okay, here's some of the other news up on InfoWars.com.
You can't make this up.
The story is from Raw Story, a Democratic Party-run organization.
Leftist media claims if you support Second Amendment, you support rape.
The headline actually says, more guns on campus means rapists can rape women more.
No, guns on campus would mean women would shoot rapists.
In areas where concealed carry goes in, rape and robbery and things like carjacking go down massively.
In fact, just show people the FBI headlines and the LA Times headline.
Gun crime drops, but perception is there's more.
It's dropped by 52%.
According to the Unified Crime Statistics of the Justice Department since 1992, rapes have dropped in every state where gun ownership has proliferated.
Women carrying guns in fanny packs in Florida, they've had major articles there, has caused basically women being raped in parks to go down to almost zero.
But they say that, no, don't want Obamacare?
You are racist.
Don't want to turn your guns in?
You want to rape women.
As if criminals that are going to rape women wouldn't already have a gun illegally.
Plus, most rapists physically beat women or hold them down or tie them up.
They don't use guns to rape them.
Just an incredibly bizarre article that we exposed.
Leftist media claims if you support Second Amendment, you support rape.
Again, we're not left or right.
But it's the so-called left, which bears no resemblance to Thomas Jefferson.
You know, what you call the father of liberalism in this country.
Who was pro-gun.
These are totalitarians.
Just like the Republican leadership, ladies and gentlemen, are going along with the FCC power grab of the internet.
They're going along with the open borders.
They're going along with shutting down our power plants without law.
They're going along with putting our military under foreign jurisdiction.
Incredible article we're going to be getting into.
We're going to continue with really big financial news.
China gaining Western allies as development bank partners, a blow to US efforts.
Recent shift has pointed out that the rise of China and their aim to become a major part of the new global reserve currency and hence a major force in the new global order.
And Dr. Paul Craig Roberts writes about it, former Deputy head of the Treasury Department says cracks in Washington's empire, Washington's EU vassals might be finding their backbone.
With plan to join China-led bank, Britain opens the door for others.
That's out of the New York Times.
So I got a bunch of articles on that.
We're going to be breaking down today as well.
Meanwhile, we see record cold temperatures on the East Coast and record dryness on areas of the West Coast.
We'll break down and I'll give you my view on what's happening there.
Meanwhile, when we return from this break, Pentagon loses track of $500 million in weapons equipment given to Yemen.
Yeah, I bet they lost track.
That stuff's being sent to Al-Qaeda and ISIS in Syria.
Iran, Hezbollah have now been left off the terror threat listing.
So they've now removed Hezbollah off the terror listing, but the Tea Party's basically listed.
JW gets records that show Al-Qaeda terrorists may have been government's source.
Judicial Watch, it's all coming up straight ahead.
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You know, I'm moving quick here because there's so much news and I want to drill more into this, but I tell you, it's kind of hard to do the show with William Binney in there, biggest government whistleblower pretty much of all time.
And all these questions we're coming up with to discuss once he's in here in studio with us.
It's really exciting what's happening.
He's seeing a lot of people finally get it.
A huge awakening taking place.
He was just in Munich, Germany with Oliver Stone.
Who is going to do an interview with Snowden for an upcoming huge film.
He was just here at South by Southwest giving speeches and saw a huge response.
So there's a lot of positive things happening.
They tried to put him in prison.
They tried to shut him down.
But he's here taking action and that is so exciting.
That's the best part about having this job is that I get to be around such amazing people, such amazing heroes.
You know, the average person would get around Kobe Bryant or LeBron James or Brett Favre or somebody and start shaking in their shoes.
I could care less.
Great, you can throw a basketball in a hoop, you can play football, wonderful.
But people that face prison, people that go through persecution, people that give up, you know, directorships, a whole section of the NSA to tell the truth, and then the system tries to suppress them and tries to keep them from the public view, and then the system fails.
That is just incredibly, incredibly exciting on so many fronts.
And so we're here today to shoot a little mini-documentary with Mr. Benny, and then we're going to have him live in studio with us.
But before we go any further, let me just say that I'm also going to be opening the phones up in the next segment specifically On this piece of news, Pentagon loses track, I mentioned this in the last segment, of 500 million in weapons equipment given to Yemen.
The Washington Post reports, it's the same story over and over again, oh we lost track in Iraq, oh we lost track in Saudi Arabia, oh we lost track in Qatar, oh we lost track in Yemen, oh we lost track, oh Turkey's giving artillery support to this Free Syrian Army, which is really Al-Qaeda and ISIS.
Oh, but now we're buddies with Assad and want to defeat them and are buddies with Iran.
And that leads us to the next story.
Iran, Hezbollah.
This is out of RT.
It's posted on Infowars.com.
Iran and Hezbollah.
Hezbollah is their militia, worldwide fighting force.
Iran.
Hezbollah left us off U.S.
terror threat listing.
So Iran and Hezbollah have been left off U.S.
terror threat listing.
Now listen, I don't want war with Iran.
I don't support some of those moves to do that.
But at the same time, if you're going to list conservative libertarian groups as extremists and with terrorists, if you're going to train the Pentagon to take on land rights activists, if you set up Homeland Security to supposedly deal with Hezbollah and Hamas, who do target civilians, You could argue that they are in the terrorist class, but to remove the big enchilada, Hezbollah from the list, shows just how bizarre all of this has really gotten.
But don't worry, there are FBI task forces nationwide harassing gun shows with the ATF, trying to find out if an old guy goes and sells some of his guns to raise money.
I see these cases all the time.
It's almost always some 75, 80 year old guy.
His wife's died in one case we covered.
He's going bankrupt.
He's got to have surgery.
He goes in to sell eight, nine guns he's had for decades.
He's not a federal firearms dealer.
It's legal for him to sell them because he's not a dealer.
He's just getting rid of personal guns.
And they arrest him.
They railroad him.
They indict him and have a federal kangaroo jury send him to prison and they die in prison.
But Hezbollah is not terrorist.
And, oh, we can come up missing $500 million in weapons in Yemen.
And I've seen this type of story, no exaggeration, 500 times or more.
This is out of Judicial Watch.
Judicial Watch gets records that show al-Qaeda terrorists may have been government source.
Judicial Watch has obtained records of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement that indicate Al Qaeda terrorists who helped plan several U.S.
attacks, including plots to blow up Oprah Winfrey Studios and detonate nuclear devices in multiple U.S.
cities, was a confidential source and informant for the government.
Well, of course, most of these guys are, and probably never planned any of this, and they just burned him.
I mean, do you really believe this guy had nukes?
It's come out in the New York Times that almost every terror attack that they've cooked up has been with a mentally ill person or some patsy who was an informant, who they say, yeah, take the bomb over here, and then they set them up.
I'm not saying there aren't radical Islamist or terrorists.
Oh, there are.
And they're under the employ of the West.
The West works with them.
To destabilize and they use their threat as a way to take liberties and promote illegal spying.
But when it comes to people they bust, they don't throw away good terrorists they could be using.
They only bust patsies and chumps and fools.
So listen, if you're an Arab American or Muslim American or Brit or whatever, I've seen this literally hundreds of times.
If you get approached to be part of a drill, of Muslims bombing something, do not be part of it, because believe me, you're going to end up in the supermax prison.
So don't be stupid.
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But we live in the 21st century where 90 plus percent of warfare is information warfare.
And the sword that wields the greatest strength is the truth.
And an empire of lies telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
That is Ron Paul's paraphrase of George Orwell.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
And again, William Binney, biggest whistleblower in modern history, not just biggest NSA whistleblower, is here.
And he was in the control room, a great gentleman, but I had him move to the conference room because it was so distracting to me to look at the monitor and see William Binney in there, plus the crew.
I mean, this is like having a movie star here for us.
You know, we've had a lot of movie stars on the show.
They're great people.
A lot of them are patriots we've had on, using their celebrity to expose tyranny.
But I'm a lot more excited about William Benny being here than some of the top celebrity stars I've gotten to know over the years.
Because this guy, they tried to put him in prison.
They tried to ruin his life.
He basically resigned because they wouldn't stop illegal spying.
He tried for a decade in the system to get them to stop it.
And then they came after him when he was doing it inside the system.
So this is a tyranny.
And if William Binney can be destroyed, we can all be destroyed.
But if he can be vindicated, which he has been, and not be stopped from getting his message out, it is a huge Battle of Trenton-level victory.
When we got the UN documents five years ago that the carbon tax was a plan to shut down the third world and the first world and only let select corporations operate, when we got the secret treaty and it became national news, we had Lord Moncton on, that was a huge, critical, Death Star destroying event.
Well, people like William Binney and Snowden going public is another potential Death Star event, to use a Star Wars allegory, where you blow up a major criminal operation and degrade and frustrate criminal forces in government and corporations that want to use ubiquitous spying To dominate markets, but also protect themselves from criminal prosecution to be aware of what other areas and other agencies are doing.
And we've now learned that the Parliament, and the Congress, and the Senate, and the President, and they're all spying on each other.
It's a panopticonic big brother arms race that we're in the middle of right now that's being deployed against the people, and it's wrong.
So again, I go off into that subject because it's so important.
And I just read to you three different mainstream news articles where our government and other groups are funding and protecting known terrorists from Al Qaeda, to the Iranian Hezbollah, to other organizations.
Why are they doing it?
All the NSA spying, all the illegal garbage.
We still had 9-11.
In fact, we learned the NSA was actually tracking them legally in that case, because they were foreigners, and that nothing was done with it.
The FBI knew and was ordered to stand down.
I've interviewed Colonel Schaefer and others.
Lieutenant Colonel Schaefer, who was there and watched the communiqués, saw the same stuff that C-Bell Edmonds, another FBI translator, whistleblowing on NSA information, Where our government was in command at higher levels, basically, of Al-Qaeda, and protecting them, and giving them arms, and laundering money.
Everything she first broke her gag order on this show five, six years ago, and on other shows, that she was attacked for, is now passé!
So now we've reached that Rubicon moment where it's out in the open, what do we do?
I'm gonna ask William Binney about this coming up in the third hour.
What is this paradox like to have them years ago deny this was happening when he knew good and well it was, he was there at the highest level seeing it, and then to now have them go, okay, we're doing it, but we're going to reform it by legalizing it.
We're going to retroactively go back and say, it's okay that we committed these crimes.
I mean, Obama yesterday Put out a directive, not a law, the President can't make law, saying we're now exempt from all FOIA requests, period.
Really, that's the National Security Act of 47, and they dovetailed with it the Open Records Act, so that if you're going to have secret stuff, it's got to be kept on record to be released later, so that people don't commit crimes now, thinking they've got a blank check.
Well, we've now entered that sector.
They want to take the drug labels off.
They want to take the food labels off.
They want to shut down people's speech at South by Southwest on GMO or NSA.
They're moving on every front to not let us have the information.
And now the FCC has power grabbed the internet from the outside Comcast threat of wanting to take over the web.
Oh, the FCC will come in and save it.
When they said before they want to control it, and now FCC Chairman concedes future internet tax is possible after all, that's a CNS news.
So just because one plan's bad by Comcast and others, doesn't mean the solution to that plan is good.
Classic bait and switch.
I want to hit this financial news, then go to your calls.
Here's the toll-free number on this worldwide Wednesday edition.
800-259-9231.
Here's the only catch.
First-time callers today.
It'll be that for William Binney as well.
Give you a chance to get involved.
And it's on one of the subjects I just raised here.
I've raised a lot of subjects.
I want you to chime in on criminal elements of the government financing, protecting terrorists to menace us into submission.
FCC documents now out, talks about taxing authority, applying the same powers they've done to broadcast radio and TV to all telecoms.
I mean, this is a nightmare.
We're also going to get into some of the other power grabs that are taking place.
But before we do that, Again, the number for first-time callers is 800-259-9231, and we will get you up and on the air on this live Wednesday edition, 800-259-9231.
I'm gonna get Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, former chief editor of the Wall Street Journal, father of Reaganomics, on probably tomorrow, the next day, maybe Sunday, if we can't get him the next two days, on the Sunday broadcast, 4 to 6 p.m.
China gaining Western allies as development bank partners.
A blow to U.S.
efforts.
And so China's created this new global development bank.
And again, I'm not saying the Communist Chinese are laudable or great people, their leadership, but it is a separate power group to Goldman Sachs and J.P.
Morgan that control the central banks of Europe and the United States, the private Federal Reserve.
So it is competition of a sort.
And we've seen the Rockefellers and others investing tens of billions the last year in this Chinese investment-run bank.
Kind of a challenge to the IMF or World Bank.
So that shows a creeping towards the exits, a hedging of the bets while Western powers accelerate global currency devaluations and a currency devaluation war.
And yes, the world Reserve currency is still the dollar, but when it goes belly up, it will have seismic effects here.
We're already seeing deflation in some areas because of recessionary and depressionary elements in select areas of the economy, but it's unbalanced.
Some people are in a depression, others are in a recession, others are in high cotton.
In this managed, stage-managed economy, which Rolling Stone two years ago had the headline, everything is rigged.
Interest rates, the globalists get free money, the public gets it at, you know, 5, 6, 7, 8 percent.
I mean, you're told it's down there at near zero, but that's not what the general public gets.
I've got perfect credit, went and checked about getting some credit last week.
I mean, near perfect credit, we're like 5 percent.
People are like, wow, that sounds great.
No, it's not.
The banks get it at zero.
So I should have access to something at one or two percent.
Just the right for them to make a profit for processing.
But that's the type of stuff that's going on.
And it's very discriminatory and the world sees this and they're scared.
So they're not moving away from dollar hegemon because they want to bring down the United States.
It's like cancer that's in your heart or something.
You cut it out, you die.
Nobody really wants the U.S.
to go under, globally, because if it does, it'll cause a worldwide depression of biblical proportions.
There aren't any economists that disagree with that.
They're now using globalization and that we're all interconnected as a way to abuse everyone and make everyone accept dollar devaluation.
So we're seeing recession and depression in some costs, but in a lot of costs, restaurants, a lot of other commodities, you name it, education, I mean just hundreds of other areas, we're seeing major inflation.
Major, major, major!
I mean, just last year, for St.
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Now that isn't inflation.
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Here's another headline.
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Washington's EU vassals might be finding their backbone.
England, Germany, France and Italy have all invested With Japan, Switzerland, Luxembourg, South Korea, and others, Australia, you name it, in the new Chinese-led Asian Investment Bank.
Neither Republicans nor Democrats are even making this an issue.
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So, with plan to join Chinese-led bank, Britain opens door for others.
That's New York Times.
That's the kind of stuff that's important.
Another hero, nothing compared to William Binney, who brought out a lot of stuff that actually threatened the entire system, but he's won two Nobel Prizes, and that's, of course, Joseph Stiklitz.
And he was the head economist at the World Bank and he's come out and said basically everything I've said.
He's been on the show five or six times over the years.
So it's not just Alex Jones up here waving his arms around saying this.
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This is going on and worldwide governments aren't trying to reform this or stabilize things.
They think totalitarianism is going to somehow at the barrel of a gun and the barrel of Big Brother surveillance glue all this tyranny and this inequity together.
Meanwhile, they're involved in a bunch of balkanization, racial balkanization, hyping up racial differences, cultural differences, in the name of bringing unity, but we know it's bringing division, and it's come out in government documents we've covered, that the plan is to divide the people against each other, so the establishment, the crony capitalists, who are not free market, can loot the living daylights out of us.
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But I was just back there during the three-minute break while they're interviewing William Benny for a documentary that I'm making.
Documentary piece.
And it just hit me.
Praise God!
I get to know Ron Paul, Rand Paul, I get to know William Benny, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, the former He's the head of Reagan's economic operation.
He's an icon of economists.
And I was just, it was popping in my head the rush of hundreds and hundreds of patriots that are fighting the New World Order that I know, who are extremely prominent and are prominent.
And then the millions of you out there fighting tyranny, we're all just as important.
And I was thinking how many good men and women there are.
And how people are rising up and fighting the tyrants.
They just don't let the general public know that because other people would know we're starting to win.
And what matters is in the end we win the hearts and minds.
Because we're going to go through some hell, folks.
What's important is in the end the New World Order falls.
And we're building the opposition that was a seed, it is now a grove.
And we can take those seeds and plant those and literally repopulate the planet with liberty.
To use that allegory.
It's exponential.
We've gone way past the mustard seed point, to the huge mustard tree, to now mustard seeds planted all over the world.
I mean, the globalists are in trouble.
They're scared.
And they should be.
Because their plan is so evil, so anti-human.
And once humanity wakes up to something, change is fast.
So, new world order?
The battle is joined.
And I'm humbled to be in the company, continually, of such amazing people.
Like the lady we have coming up in the next hour.
Let's go to Jerry in New Jersey, then Jackie, Don, Hugh, and Adam.
Jerry, you're on the air.
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Alex, my brother, God bless you and thank you for all that you do.
Total agreement with the full onslaught of tyranny that's coming in all the different angles and I do tell people, I do, I start up conversations with tall strangers and I wanted to ask you about where I really hit the wall and argumentatively as a tactic, what You do when you hit this.
I think that I can convince people of what's being done.
Where I hit the wall with people is intention.
You ask, you talk to Republicans in particular because it's their party that's supposed to actually have some standards.
I don't think the Democrats have any at all, other than pure communism.
It gets to where they say, how can these Republicans be so gutless and so stupid?
And I try to say, no, it's not stupid.
It's not gutless.
Gutless means they have good intentions, but don't have the guts to actually follow through on them.
In the last 50 years or so, they put a committee system in.
They always had committees, but they've got it where it's a leadership position where you get power the longer you're in.
And so all they've got to do is control Maybe two dozen Republicans in the House and Senate total over those key committees and chairmanships, and then it's a dictatorship.
And so no matter what the Republican grassroots does, that are pretty good people on average, you can never change it because John Boehner blocks it all.
And so, if you can't convince them, then you can't convince them of the sun coming up in the morning, because it's all right there happening in front of their eyeballs every single day.
So that's how they're doing that.
That's how they're getting that job done, Jerry, is that they have successfully taken the senators away from the states.
I mean, until 1913, senators were elected by the legislatures.
So they were creatures of the state.
Well, now they're their own imperial gods.
Yeah, no, that's an excellent point.
hill so that's a big problem get the senators back to the states uh you know do things like that and you'll turn the corner anything else jerry yeah no that's that's that's an excellent point um i guess i'm actually heading for a town hall tonight with a state representative well great job brother keep it up talk to them tell them that you know we're gonna lose everything and they don't get going people are looking for leadership more calls coming up back in 60 seconds you you're up next alex jones here
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Don in Oklahoma, thanks for calling.
You're on the air.
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Don on Oklahoma, Alex, it's my opinion, what I should be doing is concentrating on my county, constitutional sheriffs, new councilmen, commissioners, and so forth.
My question to the guest is, what he might could share or let me, help me to look for on a county level?
I'll ask William Binney that when you come up later, or when he comes up later on the broadcast, when your question comes up.
I think I should write that down.
What do you look for for government spying on the local level?
Well, you look for cell towers that are smaller.
In my experience, that are not connected to the telephone company, those will be basically stingray platforms to steal your data.
They're totally illegal.
The police and feds denied them for years.
We were covering it a decade ago.
Now it's mainstream news.
Again, they got caught lying to us.
The threat fusion centers give police these tools and teach them how to engage in illegal activity.
And they get the cops in and tell them it's all legal and see who will go along with it, who is influenceable, who can be federalized, who can be given an extra paycheck as an auxiliary fed, as a deputy fed.
And that's the federalization that's going on right now.
And that's why we're battling that as hard as we can.
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And then I'm going to get into White Privilege Conference Workshop pushes grade school lessons about genderqueer, transgender folks and gender fluids.
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This is a teacher training seminar paid for by the feds in conservative areas like Louisville, Kentucky.
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She and others from her organization have been set for months to speak at a food conference, the Future of Food and Food Safety, that Whole Foods was involved with.
It's South by Southwest, one of the biggest conferences in the world, if not the biggest now.
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Every time they try to censor us, we're just going to double down.
I want you guys to print me, please.
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That was out a few days ago.
I want the article out of the Washington Post, please.
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I forgot to tell you, sorry.
We just do everything here on air.
Total transparency.
Direct the show, everything.
That's why it's a popular broadcast.
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I want that Washington Post from Monday, please.
Uh, where they said that, uh, the feds are moving to not have labels on drugs and vaccines.
There is a move because you're waking up, we're waking up, we're winning, to shut everything down.
And that ties in with FCC Chairman concedes, there's a video on Infowars.com from CNS News, FCC Chairman concedes future internet tax is possible after all.
Now that we got the actual regulations, not law.
We don't get law from Congress now, we get it from Obama appointees.
Even though most of the commission didn't like it, you know, he's the boss, he's the little dictator.
And so, they talk about taxing to fund enforcement.
And they said they're going to follow the model that they've used with the FCC on broadcast AM, FM, UHF, VHF television.
Everybody better be grabbing their backside and protecting it, because here comes the FCC.
It'll take a few years, and they'll have Congress debate it, and they'll change some of it.
It'll be on a big lobbying chopping block, fighting over the future of everything and the Internet, but it's here.
So I hope all you snot-nosed Soros idiots that ran around bludgeoning me on the head and attacking me in publications and national TV saying I'm against net neutrality, I'm against Internet freedom, I hope you're pleased with what happens.
I hope you're happy with taxing and regulating the Internet, because here it comes.
I hope you're really proud of yourselves.
You're totalitarians.
It is so sad.
George Soros, $196 million.
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Comcast now has a federal agency that it's manipulated in the past that's let them consolidate control for the other bigs.
Oh, please don't throw me in the briar patch, Comcast said.
Oh, please don't pass this net neutrality.
See, Comcast is against it.
That's how they passed the Federal Reserve.
That's come out in mainstream news decades ago.
Congressional hearings.
The big bank associations got together, said, oh, we don't want a Federal Reserve to rein us in.
Don't do it.
When they are the private shareholders.
Oh, don't do it.
Please don't.
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I'm officially boycotting Starbucks for their anti-gun stance and everything else.
They'll chat up about, you know, you've got white privilege if you're white or if you're black.
I'm sorry about your oppression.
This is turning everything into a giant re-education camp, a giant Sensitivity Training System.
Starbucks employees should discuss race relations with customers.
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That dovetails with White Privilege Conference Workshop, pushes grade school children age 5 a lesson about genderqueer, this is quote, transgender folks, lecturing elementary school age children about gay, lesbian and transgender issues and about gender fluid and how to share your gender fluids.
Again, make this up.
I'm going to be covering that coming up some of the next hour.
And the EPA tyranny is a record cold as ice jams wreck apartment buildings and more.
Backyard burger and wiener roast targeted by EPA has the potential for global application.
The UN looks to us for their global tyranny.
EPA wants to monitor how long hotel guests spend in the shower.
That's just some of what's coming up.
And again, I just mentioned this, White House exempts itself from FOIA requests.
See, everything's going secret.
And pretty soon, I'll have to have old MMR shot if this legislation passes.
They say they may just do it regulatory.
Who needs legislation anymore?
Where MMR will not have an insert or tell you the adverse reactions or any other drug.
They'll have drug ads now not telling you, where they talk for 30 seconds how great it is, and then 30 seconds it'll kill you deader than a hammer.
Or make you have a heart attack, or go crazy, or murder your kids, or... I mean, you hear all those ads.
Not anymore, if they have their way.
I mean, they're making a totalitarian move because confidence in them is collapsing.
And you don't have to believe Alex Jones.
Congress has a 7-9% approval rating, depending on which national poll.
This is really good news, because this isn't our government.
At the highest levels.
All right, let's go to your phone calls.
Let's talk to Adam in California, or California as the gubernator would say.
You're on the air, Adam.
Welcome.
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Hi, Alex.
I'm your auxiliary reporter that did the Comedy Central bit of them attacking your website.
I mean, I thought that was actually a fairer piece.
What did you think?
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It was.
They gave you a lot of respect.
I mean, just the fact that you're debating against a head of DARPA and one of the smartest inventors and geniuses of our generation gives you respect right there.
Well, they actually pretty much took my quotes, and they had an actor engage in them.
We should play that on air.
That came out a while back, a few months ago, but... Listen, the only reason I'm on a global platform... Actually, RT aired that, but it came out of, I think, the US first, but they aired it.
The reason that's happening is scientists and government people hear me, insiders hear me, and they know, wow, that guy actually knows what he's talking about.
I'm not bragging, but William Binney's been on the show many times, and he goes, wow, you really know about all the angles of this.
Other people don't understand this.
Even people he worked with didn't get it, because they all just want to do their little job and go play golf.
No, I really want to know how all this works, but it shows the power of the individual That now in publications and in major TV shows, I'm seen as the opposition.
Well, it's only because I was willing to fight.
And that's a testament to all of you.
There are people more articulate, smarter than I.
Who need to take action.
But even if you're not more articulate than I or don't have as much energy as I, write a book, write a newsletter, talk to your police chief, visit your sheriff, put my films in the library.
If everybody starts doing a little bit, many hands make light work and we can defeat the globalists.
Go ahead.
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I haven't missed an episode.
I've purchased a lot of your products.
They're all great.
And you motivated me to make a movie and I appreciate you plugging my movie, the Conspiracy Theory documentary, when you aired the Comedy Central bit.
I hope that we can nurture and basically garden with all these great sprouts like you out there who will grow up to be much mightier oaks than I.
That's what a real leader does is they try to bring other people along.
They try to mentor.
That's what real civilization is all about.
And so, of course, if you're doing auxiliary reporting, and everybody can be an InfoWars reporter, you just say you are unofficial, because then we could have set-up folks say they work for us and do bad things in our name.
We have to clearly expose those false flags.
That's been tried before.
If people do legitimate, real reporting, we'll link to it.
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And then we'll promote, when we can, whatever separately you're doing.
Because we're all going to hang together or hang separate, to quote Benjamin Franklin, my friend.
I mean, this is a war.
I'm looking for soldiers in the info war.
I'm looking to win.
And the video you produced was Comedy Central Show Chides Info Wars with Clone website.
Segment features main character browsing conspiracy wars site with crazy headline using our header.
Michael Jackson in Richard Branson's space condo was the headline.
Well, God bless you.
Anything else, Adam?
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A lot of people made fun of me, my friends made fun of me, saying, oh, you're just making something out of nothing.
But then the very next week with the David Cross movie, I showed that to him too, and then I show him the Bill O'Reilly and the Rachel Maddow, and they finally start to get it.
I'm trying to put together all the clips to make a documentary about that also.
But you and Joyce Riley mentioned the lawyer at the Boston bombing trial, how she's connected to the Mosawi trial and the Unabomber.
They did release video of the younger brother running away from the scene, and you can clearly see he has no backpack.
So, I've been with you the whole way with the Boston bombing.
They cut his larynx out, basically, to shut him up.
They shot the boat full of hundreds of holes and didn't kill him.
They're totally framing him.
He's got a lawyer saying he says he's guilty.
I mean, this is sick.
Appreciate your call.
God bless you, Adam.
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Its ether, its format, but also the data itself.
And that's coming up in the next segment.
This affects everybody big time.
It's the surest sign of accelerating despotism and a totalitarian atmosphere.
But that's happening because they push totalitarian takeover.
People woke up.
The old American instincts kicked in.
The old Western instincts kicked in.
Renaissance started to kick in, and now they're trying to accelerate and triple down, and it is like adding nitrous oxide to an internal combustion engine.
It is doing nothing but accelerating liberty.
That said, though, the car can fly off the road and hurt everybody.
This is a very dangerous time.
That's why we de-escalate with the police, de-escalate with the system, Because even though they're doing a lot of bad things, they don't know they work for the New World Order.
They're starting to figure it out, starting to get the big picture.
They're not the enemy.
I'll say it again.
I found being around feds, being around local police, being around military, being around NSA people, being around, you name it, from top retired generals, recently retired, to top NSA people, right down to police chiefs around the country and sheriffs.
They are the most awake group.
They're either evil and serving the system, or they're good and awake and don't know what to do and say, I wish the people would wake up and support us!
The globalists know if we start getting together with local government and good people in the federal government, we can form a coalition that's legitimate, that's strong, with people like William Binney and Ron Paul and others, and we can legitimately have reform.
The globalists don't want that.
They want a race war.
They want division.
They want balkanization ahead of that, and that's why they're pulling out the stops.
I mean, you know the new Black Panther Party, all over the country, marching around saying, kill police, shoot police, oink, oink, bang, bang, kill a pig, here in Austin just two days ago.
We played the video yesterday.
You know if a libertarian group, not that we'd ever even do that or want to do that, you know if a conservative group did that, we'd be arrested.
You know that's a terroristic threat.
You know that's organization to do murder.
That's planning, in my view, legally, capital murder.
To march around saying, we want to kill 20 cops, we want to shoot them, we want to take them out, armed, in an organized group.
I mean, I'll tell you right now, if 20 people are marching towards me with guns, saying we want to kill Alex Jones, I legally and lawfully have the right to get in a stance on the ground and open fire.
Now, what I'd actually do is just try to get out of there.
I'm not looking for trouble, but, you know, this is just a joke, ladies and gentlemen.
This is all federally financed.
These are useful idiots.
Let's go to another call.
Maria in California, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
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Hi there, Alex.
I'm so happy to talk with you today.
Thank you.
You know, when I first started listening to you, I used to just I used to love to listen to you because of your rants that you would do and your little mimicking voices and stuff used to really make me smile.
Even though a lot of bad things were going on, at least I could hear you and I could feel what you were going through at the same time.
Um, I lost contact with you about this time last year and then, um, regained contact again the end of this year and tried to get some information through to you, um, and, um, and other people, tried to get some information out there, but it seems like everything I do gets blocked.
I mean, one of the biggest frustrations for listeners is They can't get us stuff.
Sometimes they do, sometimes we don't cover it, because we're like a one-legged man in a butt-kicking contest around here.
So, if you can't get it through to us, put it out on YouTube.
Put it out on Facebook.
Use enemy platforms to jam the system.
Go ahead.
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Well, it's hard to do that, but okay, sure.
But what I wanted to talk about is, you know, a lot of this information, there's a lot of information out there, and it's a lot of things that Now it just seems like you're just bombarded with all kinds of information.
But what I want to talk about is what's going on where I'm living.
In my city, I live in a military-type area where they do a lot of weapons testing and program testing and things like that here.
And a lot of what's going on on a worldwide scale are things that are going on right here in our city.
I mean, everything from the education system to the medical, to the police, to the social services, to all of that are going on in this one, in our city, which I believe is going on in probably a lot of cities all over.
Yeah, what they're doing is they're merging the military with the local threat fusion centers and the police and everything under federalized control with centralized codes, centralized dispatch, and then that's being centralized globally all into one huge computer system to track and control everything.
It is not a good situation.
Plus, GPS is based on satellites.
What if there's a big solar flare?
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At the same time, they're restricting civilians' rights to own and purchase firearms.
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And I've had Daniel Ellsberg on the broadcast, the Pentagon Papers.
He's certainly much higher level than Snowden.
And he's just been in Germany making a film with Oliver Stone about the NSA.
William Binney was number three at the NSA, depending on which news article you read.
He directed their technological development systems, so he actually knows the entire grid and infrastructure.
And he saw criminal spying violated the law in 2001.
He told Congress quietly, so the SWAT team raided him.
He followed the law.
And here he is, 15 years later, exposing the system.
And he will be joining us in about 35 minutes from now in studio.
He's here with us in Austin, Texas, William Benning.
And the reason I mention that is our next guest, Catherine Paul, Associate Director of Organic Consumers Association, OrganicConsumers.org, probably the leading group watchdog of other organic certifiers and writing articles about what's happening at state level, federal level, and international level.
Just a cornucopia, pun intended, of vital information for people that don't want to eat pesticide-laden food, don't want to eat GMO.
I want to know what true organic food is.
Part of this revolution that's beginning to win.
With McDonald's and all these big companies saying, no more bovine growth hormone.
We're going to start phasing out the pesticides.
We're going to... We're seeing some big victories here.
But the establishment is striking back by going and creating fake PR organizations that come out and go, oh, sugar and high fructose is good.
Oh, there are good GMOs.
And I've got a stack of news articles breaking this down.
But they were banned, even though they set it up months ago, from being part of this big Whole Foods-sponsored event, headlined, Gene Giants Kick OCA Off South by Southwest Food Panel Discussion.
And I wanted to just show TV viewers and read this for radio listeners, just the news the last three days.
From Monday to today, just a few articles I grabbed out of the stack here.
U.S.
sets new record for denying censoring government files.
A.P.
A.P.
president says that it's totalitarian.
What did William Binney tell The Guardian a few months ago?
He said it is a total totalitarian takeover.
Close quote.
What does A.P.
now say?
It is a totalitarian takeover.
That's A.P.
It isn't Alex Jones anymore using words like that.
You look out your window and your neighbor's house has fire shooting out of the windows.
It's on fire.
That's an alarmist statement.
It's on fire.
Oh, that guy's alarmist.
He's upset.
What's wrong with him?
Well, people weren't paying attention.
Of course I was yelling and screaming.
Foreign corporations have hijacked the country.
They own both parties.
We're in trouble.
Just one headline.
Here's another one.
FOI, FOIA, Access of Information, scoring 2015.
State Department gets an F. Here's another headline.
White House exempts itself from FOIA requests.
Totally.
As of Tuesday, the Office of Administration will no longer have to heed FOIA requests.
According to RT, they just say they don't have to.
That violates the Open Records Act, National Security Act.
That's a felony.
They're just announcing it, though.
Remember when Cheney said he was above the law and that the Vice President was more important than the President?
Remember Nixon saying it's not illegal?
Heck, can we find that clip when Nixon said, it's not illegal when the President does it.
It's okay when the President does it.
So continuing, here's another article.
FDA proposes to let drug companies undermine official safety warnings.
Look at that headline right there.
So they want to just get rid of even letting you know what they admittedly, what these drugs can do to you.
Here's another one.
Coca-Cola caught paying health leaders to say soda is healthy snack.
Yeah, this is how they operate.
I'm going to stop right there and go to Katharine Paul, whose organization has been banned from South by Southwest, and we even know who said ban it and who they follow their orders from.
Folks need to understand that the people that are running South by Southwest are extreme totalitarians and have been messing with me for 20 years, trying to jack with this radio show and TV show, so they're really bad guys.
And I've been telling you this for a long time, it's becoming more and more evident.
Catherine, I wanted to do five, six minutes of background, so it's not just you that this is happening to.
They had the police ticket us for using a sound device downtown, warning about GMOs.
My pleasure, thank you for having me on.
Everybody else used sound devices, including the pedicabs and other groups, and they've let me march many times with a bullhorn, and they've lost lawsuits over it.
But still, they ticketed us and shut us down because McDonald's ordered them to.
I guess they're the boss, but not for long.
Catherine, Paul, thank you for coming on with us today.
Well, none of what you say really surprises me, and we've seen this.
You know, my focus has been for the past few years on the biotech industry corporations and the, we call them the junk food manufacturers, and they're not only, you know, propaganda programs and the millions of dollars propaganda programs and the millions of dollars that they spend to sort of spin the truth,
But also their obvious manipulation of the federal government from the SBA right down to state and local politicians.
So, what happened with us, as you say, is one of the organizers of a panel, a session, there at South by Southwest, contacted me, asked me if I'd be available to participate on a panel.
With Kathleen Enright, the Executive VP of the Biotech Industry Organization.
And I said, sure, I would be happy to sit there and have a discussion with her.
But when there was no follow-up with confirmation, and I finally, you know, reached out and said, what's up?
I was told, well, Kathleen Enright had said we were not allowed to be on the panel.
So the biotech industry is literally running the so-called panel on safe and healthy food and the future of food here in the trendy so-called liberal city of Austin where Whole Foods is based.
Whole Foods is a sponsor heavily involved and so what we have is a Don King boxing match, a fake debate with a bunch of hand-picked people that won't actually engage in any real discussion.
We will assimilate you, the debate is over, you will submit.
I don't think so.
I think the debate's over for them with the thousands of studies coming out that a lot of GMOs are very dangerous, and certainly we have a right to choose.
They're trying to block labeling, so they're clearly the bad guys here.
Well, we look at these companies and all their resources and they talk this great story about sustainable agriculture and helping farmers and feeding the world.
We'd love to invite them to do exactly that, but the way to do that is not by dumping millions of pounds of glyphosate and other toxic chemicals into our soils and onto our food.
So, it's a shame that with all their power and all their resources, they couldn't put it to better use.
But the reality is, and as everyone knows this, genetically engineered crops were never intended as a means of salting world hunger.
GMO soy and GMO corn and GMO canola oil and all of those Either go to junk food, or the vast percentage of that goes to make ethanol for your gas tanks, or to feed animals in feedlots.
We're not feeding human beings, starving human beings, a bunch of GMO soy and corn.
That's not where those crops are going.
And the argument that genetic engineering can create drought-resistant crops and all of these is baloney, because 99% of GMO crops are engineered for one reason and one reason only, and that's to withstand massive doses of pesticides because 99% of GMO crops are engineered for one reason and one reason only, and that's to withstand massive doses of pesticides or herbicides, and that's what Monsanto and
They can't make a profit genetically engineering a drought-resistant crop unless that drought-resistant crop requires some toxic chemical, because that's what they sell.
The big four companies globally, there's a bunch of other smaller ones, but the big four have mostly the spectrum of business.
They could come out with very clean, one genetic trait, studied things that use less water, have higher yield, there might still be side effects, that should all be debated and researched properly, but instead they've got hardcore pharmacological crops producing Live viruses, chemicals, you name it.
Open air, where they program the crops to produce whatever they want.
Folks, I know it sounds Buck Rogers.
Look it up for yourself.
Look up HIV virus grown in protogen corn.
Associated Press, 2002.
I mean, you cannot make this stuff up.
Thousands of these crops being tested, and they just say safe and effective, debate is over.
And then all their engineering are these BT crops and other systems that are designed to resist these deadly pesticides that we know.
I mean, another two studies came out last week, as you know, where glyphosates are linked directly to five-fold increase in kidney failure.
Well, I mean, look at the kidneys failing everywhere.
I mean, it's just a, it is not a suicide pact.
to go along with Monsanto, especially with their long history.
And I'm sorry to be ranting here.
It just makes me so mad to watch the so-called liberals here in Austin, Louis Black and South by Southwest, because it's not just kicking you out and putting up Monsanto like they're saving the earth and are liberals.
It's that the whole thing is a censored authoritarian fraud.
No, no, I mean, I couldn't agree more, and the fact that they can't even allow someone like myself to be there because they don't want to admit that there still is a debate
The fact that they're spending millions and millions of dollars to show up at these places to get articles in publications all over the world written by people who on the surface look like they're scholars or scientists, but when you dig deep into their background, actually have deep ties to the industry.
I want people on your show to read a couple of recent things that have come out.
We have never, ever subjected these to long-term human health studies.
And I love it!
I just love it when the Monsanto folks and all of their front groups and phony bought-and-paid-for scientists say, there's just no proof that anybody's ever died from eating a GMO food.
Or, you know, we can't trace any illnesses back to GMO foods.
Well, we can't because nobody knows where that stuff is.
There's no real traceability.
But scientists are tracing it back.
And this idea that if you eat something and you don't drop over dead immediately means it must be safe is ridiculous.
Oh, it's also real funny that in a bunch of rodent studies, they never do them in humans as you said, they do them quicker in rodents, that it causes infertility in them to eat these BT crops.
And what I think, I think that people are beginning more and more to make the connection between the fact that there are two issues here.
There's the issue, well there are actually way more than two issues, but when it comes to human health there's the issue of Is genetic modification itself creating a product that is itself dangerous and causing us illness?
And there are plenty of studies that suggest yes.
But also, you can't have those foods without using massive amounts of toxic, poisonous chemicals.
And those chemicals not only are on your food, they're in your water.
They're in your soil, they're in your...and they're everywhere!
And it's just common sense, I think, and I think we see it.
It's evidenced by the fact that the junk food companies are all in trouble, and the organics are in farmers' markets, whether they're organic or not, just local food that we know where it came from without pesticides.
Sales of those are growing like crazy because people are just putting two and two together.
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Well, I wanted to direct people to read a couple of other things just Just as fully, to help get more background on really the depth of the conspiracy to deceive consumers, because it really has been a conspiracy on the part of corporations.
There's a new non-profit called U.S.
Right to Know that recently published a report called Seedy Business, What Big Food is Hiding with its Slick PR Campaign on GMOs.
Great deal of good information on there.
Outlining very specifically to what length these corporations have gone to manipulate government policy and manipulate the message.
And also another new book out, and I think this is just a sign, I mean, that there's so much being put out there right now.
A book called Poison Spring, A Secret History of Pollution and the EPA.
Somebody who worked for the EPA for 15 years inside talking about how the EPA has chosen to ignore its own scientists on the issues of pesticides like glyphosate and pander instead to corporations.
In the battle, I think our side is getting pretty close to a tipping point.
We've heard from insiders at General Mills, they're absolutely panicked.
That's why they're buying up organic companies.
We see Kellogg's is in trouble.
We see McDonald's is in trouble.
Corporation after corporation in the food industry are beginning to see that maybe being in bed with the biotech industry wasn't such a great idea after all.
Consumers and their interest in their own personal health.
That's what's really been driving this for the past A few years, and we've seen it with the battles to label GMOs and the lengths to which biotech industry have gone to defeat those laws.
The globalist power grabs taking place are a desperate battle of the bulge attempt by the forces of the globalists to stop our D-Day operation.
That's a good allegory.
The Awakening is supercharged, and that's not hype, you can see it all around you.
That said, we've got some really tough days ahead of us, but it's very exciting to see what's happening.
Former top NSA official joining us, we've got your questions that have come in on Twitter.
We're gonna give him an earpiece, we'll also take some calls towards the end, may even do some overdrive.
William Binney.
Director at the NSA of their technical operations and technology development Will be joining us in studio Right now let's go to Matt in New Hampshire.
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Defending the Republic from enemies foreign and domestic.
defending the republic from enemies foreign and domestic.
I think you can call this particular hour Operation Toto.
Little Toto pulling back the curtain so they could see what was happening behind it.
William Binney is with us for the hour.
William Edward Binney is the former technical leader for intelligence with the NSA before becoming a whistleblower.
In late 2001, after more than 30 years in the agency, Binney has been described as one of the best analysts and codebreakers in NSA history.
He basically set up a lot of what was going on so he knew they were doing illegal stuff.
Binney continues to speak out.
He's been SWAT teamed, he's been attacked, he's been demonized, but it's failed.
They tried to silence him and other whistleblowers.
Exposedfacts.org is a site where you can read some of his analysis and material.
I hope he writes a book soon.
He came down here on his own dime, basically a South by Southwest.
To speak, got a pretty good perception.
We'll get his take on that.
He wants to go through some of the Snowden slides today for TV viewers.
Radio listeners can go to Infowars.com forward slash show to find the free video feed and hopefully send that link on to friends and family because Mr. Benny is a real hero.
He'll just say he did his duty, but in a world of traitors, someone doing their duty is heroic.
We could recap your story, what's happening, get into the exciting stuff about you coming back from Germany.
You've been talking to parliaments over there.
You've been talking to the EU people, I believe the British Parliament, big national headlines where you say it's a totalitarian takeover and the Guardian.
But here it's starting to come out in the news as well.
I guess they failed to silence you.
We could talk about you working with Oliver Stone now on the new Snowden documentary.
We could get into the slides and break down the fact that it is going on from an expert, showing us not what's classified, but what's already been leaked, so you don't get in trouble.
We're here with the former technical director of the NSA, the guy that actually ran it, William Binney.
Okay, but, you know, there's so much here, it's really hard to know where to start because it's really been, over time, it's been, our government has moved into basically sliding down the totalitarian slope.
Taking massive amounts of data on our citizens and then working around and doing it across the world.
So it's basically, they're doing this for everybody in the planet.
And the process started here in the NSA, and it started to spread around the world to the Five Eyes countries, the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and then to other countries like in Germany and Switzerland.
And Sweden and Israel.
So the process of data collection and now the Russians are doing it.
I just read an article where they're starting this kind of operation.
So now the Russians are following our lead in this spying business.
I mean, that's spread around the world to other police organizations around the world, too.
Anybody with an organization or police organization that has a relationship With the FBI or the DEA around the world is subject to getting this kind of information but they'll never be given the original data from the NSA collection because it's not admissible in a court of law because it wasn't acquired by a warrant.
And they don't want to, with foreigners, compromise the fact that they have the ability to collect them.
And don't they then fence it and wash it and they've been caught adding disinformation and it's a perfect way to put into the global data stream frame-ups.
Well, for example, the only case that went to court was Tom Drake's case.
And they took him to court because he was still working for NSA at the time.
This was in 2007 when they raided us initially, and then they raided Tom Drake about three months later.
But his case didn't get to court until about 2010.
2010 well 2010 they charged him in 2011 10 and 11 in that frame they they wanted to take him to court and then what they did was they took information that he had at his house that was marked unclassified and they changed that they drew a line through that and then stamped it classified secret or top secret then charged him with having classified material Thank you.
That's like retroactively classifying something so you can charge somebody with having classified material.
I had the former director of Star Wars on, he died a few years ago, Dr. Bob Bowman, and he talked about some of the space planes once, and then they called him and came to his house and kind of threatened him, and he said, hey, here's where it was released on C-SPAN, and here's where you guys and your own propaganda a decade ago released it, and then they couldn't go after him, but that's the type of stuff they pull.
Well, for me, in my case, I mean, I was kind of prominent, you know, complaining to senators and representatives and various other people, as was Tom Drake.
We were internal, in terms of the government, yes.
We were going to the Inspector, we even, Kirk Levy and I even went to talk to the Department of Justice Inspector General.
And of course they couldn't say anything to us, but we made it clear what the problem was with this domestic spying.
But for me and all four of us, we were the four who were first raided in July of 2007.
We were raided because we were the ones who signed the DOD IG complaint against NSA charging them with corruption, fraud, waste and abuse.
And that caused a major DOD investigation of NSA that all verified what we were saying and that was published but redacted because even the unclassified embarrassing parts were redacted.
Which is a violation of the NSA, the government... Open records.
Yeah, well it's a violation of government classification regulations too.
In other words, Executive Order 13526 Section 1.7 says you can't classify something or keep it classified or not declassified if it's evidence of a crime or evidence that embarrasses an agency or... You can't use the National Security Act to cover up criminal activity.
Exactly, exactly.
And that's basically what the NSA and the DOJ and the DOD with that investigative report, that's what they were doing.
They were redacting it and hiding it from Congress and hiding it from everybody else.
So they're covering up what they're doing.
And for us, they attempted after the raid, by the way, the DOD IG's office was the one that gave our names, as the ones who submitted that complaint against NSA, they gave our names to the FBI.
And all you're doing is going to congressional committees and inspector generals whose job it is to have oversight and telling them, hey, they're breaking the law.
And also, it's the committees who are supposed to, the intelligence committees in the House and Senate, and also the FISA Court, were established after the Church Committee investigation of NSA, CIA, and FBI in the 70s.
And one of the main persons they were spying on back in the Minaret program was Senator Church.
That's right.
And that only came out recently, and the only reason they didn't, of course, was because they are spying on people who have power over them.
And let's be clear, because The fake conservative argument and the fake liberal argument is the same.
We're protecting you from Al-Qaeda and drug dealers and all this other stuff, but then as more of this gets leaked and comes out, they're spying on Parliament, they're spying on Congress, they're spying on other agencies, and there's so much spying going on, and you've explained this, that back when you were really spying on the Russians, really spying on radical Islamists, Legally and lawfully, that was already legal and lawful.
It's the domestic stuff that's illegal, but they confuse people and say, let us protect you from Al-Qaeda, when actually they're doing the opposite.
They're letting all these groups operate because they're too busy spying on their boyfriends and their girlfriends and the congressmen.
Yeah, and that's one of the cases that came out was what they called an NSA love-int.
Love intelligence, that's where the analysts were looking into the data to see whether or not their better parts or their spouses or girlfriends were cheating on them.
Well, you don't do that, first of all, you don't do that, Erica, you do not do that with metadata.
You do that with content.
And that's what they've been trying to hide, that they've been collecting content all along, since 2002 at least.
And that content is stored in Utah, San Antonio, and various other storage facilities.
It's just a talent that you have to be able to look at patterns and see patterns in data, and when you can do that, that's the kind of thing you need to be able to break things and solve problems.
Yes, yeah, I mean and every US citizen in the country, yeah.
No one was exempt.
I mean, everybody was taken in.
I mean, even Senator Rockefeller, when he was addressed in January on CNN, I think it was, he addressed it, he said, they've got data on, they've probably even got data on me.
Well, I mean, what he's saying was right.
I mean, they're collecting all the data content and metadata on everybody in the country.
Well, Mark Klein kind of exposed that too, and it's in court record in Mark Klein's case where he laid out the wiring for all the, for the NSA room in the AT&T facility in San Francisco.
Sure.
And on that, I think it was room 641B.
What they did was they put a prism type affair or a splitter, what's called a splitter or Y connector, where you have a fiber coming in and it sends, it duplicates and sends it down two paths.
One path went to the NSA room and the other path went to the normal distribution of communications.
In the NSA room, all the diagramming showed all the NERIS devices they had in there, where they pushed the fiber optic networks into the NERIS device.
What that did was recompile everything on the line and sessionize it, meaning reassemble all the data.
Like if you send an email, it goes out in packets.
We'll pull all those packets back together and say, here's the email you just sent.
And then they would pass that on to NSA for storage.
Yes, the latest one that they've just submitted an environmental impact statement for is a 2.8 million square foot facility on Fort Meade, taking up basically the golf course at Fort Meade.
What I love about the NSA, we've had reporters in San Antonio and in Utah, and you just get there at the Walmart parking lot and start videotaping, they run up, the police go, how dare you videotape us?
It's just a public, I mean, it's publicly known, it's there.
Meanwhile, they're stealing all of our data, but oh, you can't aim a camera at us.
It's a slide into totalitarianism and an imperial presidency and control of population process.
I mean, that's what they're doing.
I mean, they kept everybody in the dark so you had no informed electorate to make a decision about who to vote for about these issues or even embracing these issues.
They're all avoiding this issue.
And they have an uninformed Congress, because that's why Representatives Amos and Conyers got a group together, a coalition of Republicans and Democrats, to try to unfund NSA, because they realized that they were being lied to by the agencies and by the intelligence committees and by the administration about what was going on.
So, I mean, they had an uninformed Congress and an uninformed electorate by design.
And that's basically what the Soviet Union, the Germans, that's basically what they did.
I got a lot of questions coming up for you, William Binning.
I want you to be able to speak on other topics you want to get into and go through some slides you gave us that Snowden leaked so you can break this down for people to kind of give us a roadmap of what's going on.
But my big question is...
As best you know, not being there in 15 years, but what's leaked and what people said, how many people really have access to the big master files to go in and send an order in and then get all my emails from a year ago or go and see a file, a text file of a phone call I had last night?
How many people have access to this?
Because if Snowden could really get access to all of this, That means government spies could as well.
So even if we had good people in government, which we know at the top we don't, they built this fraud.
They've built something that could be taken over or hacked and thus compromise everything.
You build something that spies on everything, you've just built something that corporations, spies, private corporate criminals, anybody can get into and exploit and sell.
And with government's history of selling driver's license, selling uranium, whatever the case is, this looks like it's a giant bazaar of information that they've just opened up.
In fact, we had proposed in the SARC, the SIGINT Automation Research Center, we proposed a program we called Well Grounded that said we wanted to monitor the entire worldwide network of NSA, who was on it, when they were on it, what they were doing, when they were there, as they did it.
And it would be a matter of monitoring the network log, like you probably do here.
The same principle, it's the idea where anybody on the network sends data down the line, you can see what they're doing, and that's recorded in the log.
So you can analyze that log with software, and that's what we intended and proposed to do.
We had two groups opposing that.
One were all the analysts saying, you will be able to see everything I'm doing.
And the reason they didn't want that happening was we could watch the movement of all the money.
We could see all the money being spent on every program, the return on investment of every program, whether or not they were successful or not, who, what companies were competing for it, all of that kind of stuff.
I mean, even the intelligence committees, all they can do is come out and get a briefing from the people at NSA, and all they hear is what they want to tell them.
And the same is true with the FISA Court.
The FISA Court has no way of checking or verifying or validating what they're being told.
That was one of the main things we suggested to the President, is how to fix NSA.
Is to have a technical group that would make sure that what they're telling them is true, being very simply put, I suggest the hackers in the United States, they're the ones who want to find things and solve problems.
Take these hackers, give them clearances and give them the authority to go into any agency, in any intelligence community agency in the government, sit at any terminal, look at any database, monitor every program they have and what their analysts are doing at any time.
I was at Barton Springs last year on a sunny day with two guys and two women sitting next to me on their towels and they were all police going to finish up degrees.
Two of them had just finished up to go work at the NSA in San Antonio.
They were bragging like they were James Bond and just blabbering classified stuff right next to me.
I looked at them and I said, you know, when we take this country back, you're going to be known as like the Nazis.
Even if you think this is cute, you shouldn't be laying around on the grass blabbering about it.
I'm jumping in a lot because this is just so epic what you're breaking down.
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You can complain about Big Brother and how this is a potential program run amok.
But when you actually look at the details, then I think we've struck the right balance.
And if people can't trust not only the executive branch, but also don't trust Congress, and don't trust federal judges, to make sure that we're abiding by the Constitution, due process, and rule of law, then we're going to have some problems here.
All that evil men and tyrants need to flourish is that good men and women do nothing.
I think it was Edmund Burke said that, British statesman.
There are good people in the government.
The government's not our enemy.
The big corporations are doing as much spying as the NSA in certain areas.
It is the fact that we have let government corporations get out of control.
Now there's no oversight.
They're doing whatever they want.
It's crazy.
William Binney, former technical director of the National Security Agency, one of the most high-level whistleblowers of all time.
I mean, he has exposed Benedict Arnold-level crimes.
They've tried to put him in prison and failed.
They have successfully put other patriots in prison.
They've put journalists in prison.
But for people in the government, better choose a side, because this is classic totalitarianism.
Every top constitutional lawyer, whether they're liberal or conservative, has come out and said, we're going over the edge, this is scary.
Even Congress is saying that, but there's no oversight, so it's just all out of control now.
Now there are centralized groups that have a lot of power.
But the scariest thing is, if this was a centralized system, we could probably fix it a lot better.
William Bennington, I'm going to give you the floor to cover a bunch of topics you want to get into and go over some of these graphics from Snowden.
Am I right from your expert opinion that it's worse that there's not even oversight because there's all these mini-empires and God knows what going on with just unlimited spying happening and Congress doesn't know what to do?
I mean, this is just crazy sounding.
Is that worse than just having one centralized group running it because we could remove them?
I mean, how do you ever get rid of something that's metastasized like this?
All the lawyers, all of the senior managers at NSA had all followed orders from the White House, from Cheney and Bush, to do this.
And that's what Hayden directed them to say, that this is what was, this direction was coming from the White House, therefore we're going to do it, it's lawful and we do it.
But to talk about what a hero and how much courage you've got, I mean, you know how serious people are in this government, what they do worldwide, how corrupt it's gotten at that point.
You had the will to march into Congress and to tell them what was going on, the first guy I mean, that's ten times bigger than Snowden internally.
And to really start this whole internal debate and this avalanche of understanding now, I mean, you were really one of the first people to ring the bell to warn folks that the country, as we knew it, was being dismantled.
Well yeah, after that and after talking to other members of Congress, and it was actually the morning of the second day after Attorney General Gonzalez's testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee on the Terrorist Surveillance Program, where he only talked about the warrantless wiretap program.
But that was only a smidgen of what they were doing.
I mean, that was like an infinitesimal of what they were really taking in.
At that time it must have been a lower percentage of phone calls but the vast majority of emails inside the United States as well as worldwide.
Which I estimated to be now at least 80% of the phones calls in the United States are now being recorded somewhere.
That's how Tim Clemente could say that after the Boston bombing we can get back to what was said in a phone call between one of the Tsarnaev brothers and his wife before the bombing.
Also, Dr. Mueller of the FBI, in his Senate Judiciary testimony on the 30th of March of 2011, said that he got together with the Department of Defense and set up a database where he and the FBI could make one query and get all past and all future emails on a person.
Now that tells you that that's coming out of Bluffdale, by the way.
All the data is being collected and stored.
And so it's not just phone calls, it's emails, it's everything else.
And of course some of the recent publications show credit card use is being stored also.
How many people in the NSA, how many people have a high enough clearance in government agencies, period, to be able to go in and hear my phone calls, Shay, to my dad yesterday?
I believe the figures I've seen, at least what's been published, is probably on the order of about 3,000.
Government employees.
No, that doesn't count contractors who are managing the data.
That's the real rub.
You have all these contractors who manage the communications, the computers, the data storage, the query programs, and the communications back and forth between the analysts to ensure all that.
I've been basically said what they did after 9-11 was trade the security of the people of the United States and of the world for money.
Because it was all about money.
It wasn't about solving the problem.
In fact, I originally had a... Because of this problem of not... the contractor's not really solving the problem, I kept thinking, well, their vision statement must be, aim low and miss, you know?
And that's why they've had a lot of top geopolitical analysts admit now that that's why we have such a corrupt global elite is because they don't ever want to fix any problems because they're getting contracts or their buddies are off of things getting worse.
But if they end up destabilizing the whole planet and bringing down civilization, then all their Swiss bank money isn't going to buy Jack Squat.
That's another problem with the programs that they've been doing, like recognizing weaknesses in firewalls and operating systems, and weakening encryption systems with the Bull Run program, for example, out of NSA.
That's weakening all those things around the world for everybody.
Yeah, but also weakening encryption systems so that you can penetrate them and read them.
So the point is that NSA has no monopoly on smart people.
People around the world, hackers and people in Russia and China and so on, all around the world, also have smart people.
And they can go in and hack into systems and recognize these weaknesses in the firewalls and operating systems and the encryption systems, so they can penetrate everything too.
I mean, the point is if you keep those things weak, which is what the operational side of NSA wants to do, because then that allows them to see into what you're doing.
That's like saying we want the average American to have a 70 IQ because that makes us more manageable.
We'll just then be a nation of mentally retarded people.
I mean, I hate to use a bad analogy like that, but it's like, make us totally wide open so we can spy on you, not seeing the fact that it just opens the world up to all these data breaches.
Every day, Bank of America or this or Google losing millions of this, millions of that, credit cards not working, my bank accounts constantly having people doing stuff.
Yeah, and there's another contradictory point here too.
Part of NSA is called IAD, that's Information Assurance Directorate.
That directorate is supposed to secure communications within the United States.
For the government and for anybody else, they're supposed to share technology so they can improve the security of their networks.
Well, that's working against the operational side that wants to penetrate those networks.
So, on the one side, you're trying to defend them, on the other, you're trying to attack them.
So, the point is... Schizophrenic.
Yeah.
When I was in operations, I had solved a system I thought was a pretty significant one, and I thought, well, the IAD people also do that for our side, so I would go over and talk to them about what I've just solved from the other side, the operations side, and tell them, here's the solution on the bad guys.
And isn't this very similar to what you do for ours and shouldn't you watch for these kind of penetrations that I can do over here?
You know, and they wouldn't talk to me about this.
You're saying they didn't want to communicate and... Exactly, internally in NSA.
They didn't want to communicate and share that kind of knowledge.
But I told them my side, so they can use it defensively.
But by doing the things they're doing, the operations side, seeing all the weakness, isn't telling the defensive side that they... Wow, so these agencies, you always hear this, but they really are their own little fiefdoms, waging war against each other.
And that doesn't count going to CIA and the conflicts between CIA and NSA.
Since you bring that up, some people say, and I don't know if it's true or not, and you've talked to Oliver Stone, he's talking to Snowden, that Snowden could be a CIA operative in a dirty war about taking some of the power away from NSA.
I think that's basically an effort to deflect what Snowden has compromised and sent to get published about what's going on.
It's a side issue.
They try to deflect the narrative to something else.
Because CIA is a part of this.
CIA, and in some of the material slides that I have that Snowden has released, it shows the CIA connection into the NSA databases, which exposes all that data to CIA as well as the FBI.
And that's how they do the parallel construction.
They first go in and get the data from NSA and then they have to do a parallel construction.
That's how the FBI and DEA do it.
And they have almost direct access into those databases.
It is surreal that I'm 41 years old and I'm sitting here reaching millions of people with William Binney, the former technical director of the NSA, who ran warfare operations against all these other governments, and you're here telling me that we're going into a total tyranny.
I've got all these questions, these Twitter questions, that was one of them, we've got all these...
Open phones, I'll give the number out for a couple calls, 800-259-9231, 800-259-9231.
We're going to break here in a few minutes, we'll do a little bit of overdrive, and then I'm just so thankful to have you here.
What else are key tidbits you'd like to impart to the listeners and viewers out there about what we're dealing with and how you think we may be able to change it?
And then separately, you said you think there is an awakening happening.
One of the major aspects, though, that I wanted to point out here, and I have it in some of the slides.
It was a program called the Treasure Map.
And the objective there is to monitor where every device is in the world on the network.
Every computer, every phone, every mobile are fixed.
And monitor them every minute of every day.
So that's keeping a constant track on where you are and where you're moving and where you've been.
At what time.
And that paired up with the content collection and metadata collection shows them who you are, who you're talking to, what you're talking about, and perhaps even why you're discussing things, and even in a journalist's sense, a wham about what kind of operation you're trying to do.
And then you pair that up with the treasure map type approach, getting you the when, when you are somewhere, and where you are when you're doing this.
That gives you all the components of a story of your life.
And that's what they're really doing.
They're pulling all of this data together to get an entire picture of your life.
Of everybody on the planet.
At least the objective seems to be every device on the network, so I estimate that to be 4 billion people.
And monitoring them where they are constantly throughout the day.
But it also is storing the content in Pinwhale for the digital network and the voices in the Nucleon.
That's where the content is stored and it's indexed against the relationships that are built in the in the graphs in Mainway and Marina so that analysts look at the graphs and they pull out the graph and see something interesting they say okay give me all the content that goes with it and it gets pulled out from those two databases.
So they go through see the metadata see the key things that the algorithm picks that they think might be important then they can drill down and hear you having phone sex with your wife.
And they now with voice print analysis for a long time can take a recording of your voice with different programs that are publicly available, type it in and then create William Binney saying in a speech whatever they wanted to.
Well, even some of the metrics that they're using in terms of biometrics, that's kind of within a range of probabilities, so that's still, when they claim, if they claim they have a match, that's not necessarily a match.
But they can claim it based on the probabilities that they're... Yeah, I see that all the time.
And when they say they don't collect content or they don't tap into the fiber network randomly in the U.S., there's a slide, a Fairview slide, that shows all of the tap points in the 48 states of the United States.
It's not random, it's directed, it's based at convergent points where fibers converge, where they put collection devices where it gives them a much larger view.
Laura LaRue asked on Twitter, at Real Alex Jones, why haven't we begun impeachment recall process for the feds funding, I got examples of them funding terrorists and spying the blackmail public officials.
I think it's just a continuation of their doing what they want to do and they feel they're above the law.
For example, when Nancy Pelosi, when she was Speaker of the House, said impeaching George Bush is off the table, that's because she was one of the first of four people in Congress briefed on these programs.
So if she impeached George Bush, George could say to her, you have to impeach yourself because you're a part of this.
Well, I mean, the two, I mean, the main approach right now, I think, is you have to hammer your representatives and senators.
And not just with emails or Twitter or phone calls, but also when they come to public forums with the public town meetings.
Get up and embarrass them with asking questions of why aren't you why aren't you living up to your office oath of office to defend the Constitution because under this spying they're violating all our constitutional rights of privacy.
William Benny is here with us right now, former technical director of the National Security Agency, just exposing mass crime and a criminal conspiracy of arrogance and fraud that destroys our national security, destroys our children's futures, and is openly used to just rape our basic liberties.
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Go ahead.
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Yes, Mr. Bernie.
I have a question.
Basically, I'm a retired C.T.
from the Navy, so you probably know what they are.
Yep.
But the way I look at everything, there is probably no way 100% you could ever secure your information.
Yeah, when I first heard this 15 years ago, I didn't believe it, but they actually hired Marcus Wolfe, the former head of the Stasi, as a consultant, and they're setting up the HUMET Homeland Security Infra-Guard squads, and Bezzi setting up on-the-ground intelligence as well, and it's all political.
Yes Alex, what I'd like to ask is these programs, the only way that I can see them being operational would be using people's taxes.
And why isn't there someone calling for a repeal of, is it the 15th Amendment or the 16th Amendment, to try to cut off the head of the snake, so to speak, so they can't get the funding?
And when it comes to taxes, if you're going bankrupt because of onerous taxes, and you're a hard-working guy and you can't feed yourself, I mean, I wouldn't pay him.
And I'm not telling you don't pay him.
It's like the mob, they'll break your legs.
But, you know, this system is getting so bad that you can't blame... Thank you so much, caller.
God bless you.
William Binney, what about the issue of having a lawless government?
Won't that encourage everybody else to become lawless?
Well, I know there's... I mean, I'm hearing from my brother and others in Virginia where they're thinking, geez, this looks like we need another revolution.
I wouldn't advocate it.
I think we have ways and means of doing it right now, but it's putting pressure on... I mean, if we have to, we have to fire everyone that's in Washington.
We just have to fire them all, get rid of them, because they're... I was even recommending a new... having our Article 5 convention to set up a new way of electing people.
That's by randomly picking from the phone book.
We certainly can't do any worse than what we've got now.
I'm going to talk to you in the break and see if you want to do this.
I have to go to a meeting.
We're going to get together tonight again.
I would like you, you're a very confident person, you'll hear the music, it'll fade in and fade out.
I would like to just let you sit here and have the floor give a ten minute speech and end it that way.
I can say William Binney hosted my show.
We're going to come back and do that.
Thank you so much.
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From the arguments the government puts forward, they say they're doing this for security of the people of the United States, and they're doing it for terrorism to try to prevent it, and you have to give up your privacy for them to be able to do that, and that's just an outright lie, first of all.
And secondly, what's really happening by taking in this bulk data, it's really Overburdening their analysts in the NSA, CIA, all over the world.
And so they can't really stop these events of terrorism, like the bombings in Boston, or the shooting in Paris, or in Copenhagen, or the Fort Hood shooter, or any of that, because their analysts are so burdened with data, they use a dictionary select type approach, which is fundamentally a Google approach.
That means that when they do their daily polls, they use their dictionary select, and they get like a Google return.
Well, that's hundreds of thousands, or even a million returns.
No analyst could make it through all that data in any day, and the next day they get an equivalent amount.
So that means they're making themselves totally dysfunctional.
And that's just not true for NSA, that's also true in GCHQ and around the world, because all these governments are adopting the same procedures.
Instead of taking a focused approach, which would make a rich environment of content to be able to manage and analyze, that would make them successful.
So fundamentally, they're exposing people to more risk.
They're not actually protecting you, they're making it more risky for you.
You're losing security because of this procedure they've adopted.
So, the point is, from my perspective, I keep arguing, and other NSA whistleblowers and I have made suggestions on how to do this to the government, but the President has not adopted those techniques, nor have any of the intelligence agencies, simply because there is too much money in this process of doing bulk acquisition of data.
That's their motive, to keep having the money flow and keep that going.
So, changing that particular procedure is rather difficult, even within government, because this money comes out and goes to corporations that are in the constituent areas of the representatives and senators.
So they have a vested interest in also keeping this going.
So the only way to do it is to raise up as a public.
We have to start standing up as Americans.
Americans aren't supposed to sit back and let things happen and let Let government do what it does.
We're supposed to be out there challenging.
We have to be participating in our democracy and republic.
We cannot sit by and let these things happen and be quiet.
If we do, we're going to get this totalitarian state that we're sliding toward right now.
So that's really the basic issue that I have to convey to you, that you need to stand up.
How can you do that?
You can't sit there and say you don't have any power.
You really do have power.
And the power is to talk to your representatives and senators and complain to them and make sure that this is a major concern to you.
And when they come around to give you town meetings and talk to you and get your vote, stand up and address them and make them publicly come out with a statement of their position on this issue.
If you don't, I mean, they're going to continue doing what they are doing right now.
They simply say they're assuming, because now if you're not complaining, they're assuming that you're okay with everything they do or they feel they can do anything and the country will accept it.
And as long as they keep saying things and not telling the truth and exposing what's really going on, they can keep you in the dark and you'll never know.
So that's why you have to get up, stand up, challenge them.
I mean, after all, they're even addressing the free press we're supposed to have, like with Jim Risen and Jim Rosen of the AP and various other investigative journalists.
They're shutting down their sources of information and keeping them quiet.
Well that's destroying a free press.
So the free press is supposed to be interrogating the government to see what they're doing so they can inform the public what the government is after and what they're really doing.
Well, that's falling totally apart.
I mean, look at Jim Rose in his case.
They had him under subpoena for any number of years trying to get him to tell the source of information in the books and things he's published.
Well, under the press rules, he had the right to keep the sources confidential.
So they're attempting to destroy a free press, which is the next step in going to a totalitarian state.
So if we don't stand up, Americans, we're going to lose our country.
We're going to lose the process that we hold dear, that at least a republic I've had when I grew up, and that my father and his father before him had.
I mean, we're going to lose it because we can't trust We cannot trust the government and what they're saying.
They, in fact, have been deliberately keeping us in the dark as to what's going on and keeping a lot of Congress in the dark, too.
So by doing this complaining to the Congress, you have at least an opportunity to change the process and the sequence of things and where it's headed.
Short of that, I mean, you have to fire everybody in Congress.
That's the only way to get rid of them.
You have to get rid of the bums because they're not living up to their oath of office, which is to protect and defend the Constitution.
The President, of course, has the additional responsibility under his oath of office to preserve the Constitution.
He has to preserve, protect, and defend.
The others, like when I was in government, I had to protect and defend the Constitution.
That's why I felt that what I was doing was consistent with my oath of office, also consistent with being a citizen of the United States, of actively getting and participating in this democracy that we have, is getting up there and standing up and defending that Constitution.
At least trying to protect it and defend it.
That's something that our representatives in Washington are not doing, and that's something we have to call them on.
We have to make sure, as the citizens, that we stand up and say, look, you're in office and we voted you there and your oath of office is to do this to protect our rights, and you're not doing that.
And put them on the spot publicly.
This is the only way to do it.
Sunlight is the only cure.
And that's why Edward Snowden has really performed a huge public service by exposing these programs that have been in place and put in place since 9-11 to spy on everybody in the United States and accumulate information on everybody.
It's one thing for companies to do it, which I also disagree with.
They shouldn't be allowed to do that.
But they're doing it for the purpose of advertising and making money.
The government's doing it for the purpose of finding criminal activity and also being able to control the population.
That's really what's happening.
I mean, you could see it in the militarization of your local police and the spread of the Department of Homeland Security and their equipment worldwide and the buying of the bullets and so on.
They're all leading to the state of basically being able to control the population.
And that's fundamentally what I've been, that's what I testified to in Germany when I gave testimony to the Bundestag, that the entire process that was adopted by NSA and has been spread around the world through all the intelligence agencies, is one of controlling and assembling information to be able to control the population, not just in the United States, but around the world.
So this is not just threatening us and our democracy, it's a world, we're destroying democracy around the world.
In fact, we're doing such a good job that the Russians and others, what we used to call totalitarian states, are now adopting the procedures that we've implemented.
And this basically tells you that we're on the wrong path, our government, since Dick Cheney said publicly on television that we had to go to the dark side.
Well, that meant we went to the dark side for rendering, torture, murder, drone strikes, spying on everybody.
All of this is the dark side.
Well, that's not American, and that's certainly not consistent with the founding principles of this government.
We were founded on the principles of human rights, and what the processes that are putting in place now are in fact taking those rights away.
So the only way we can change this is to stand up.
We have to get active.
Say something.
I don't care what it is you say or how you say it, but get up and participate and discover and make sure that if you oppose this move towards totalitarianism, you need to speak up and say something.
You can't be quiet.
You have to get out there and participate.
And that's really the theme of what I would like to say to everybody in America.
And that's what The only way now to do it is to address your representatives and senators and make sure that you push that on them and keep pushing that.
And if they don't start saying them, just tell them you're going to fire them by voting against them the next time.
That will get their attention because that's really what they want to do.
They want to stay in Congress and be there for years.
And that's part of our problem.
We don't have term limits, so we end up with what I call petrified politicians in place in Washington.
They've been there for so long that it's a never-ending career for them.
Well, when you do that with politicians, they tend to think over time that they know better than anybody else and that they don't have They believe that they can make the decisions that are right for the country, whether or not the public in the United States would agree or not, or even if they disagree, that doesn't matter.
If their opinion says, let's go another way, then that's what they do.
So that's where we have to stand up as a group, and you have to do this as a group and make sure that the wave of public opinion hits them in a place that hurts them, and that's at the voting booth.
If you vote against them and fire them, that will get their attention.
That's the big thing that I would say.
Fire the bums.
Get rid of them.
And I would say if there's an incumbent list, if there's a word incumbent after somebody, you're in the voting booth.
I would say more than likely it's better to vote against them.
Like I said earlier, the best way I would see to do it is to randomly select people from the phone book and give them every two years a chance to get into office that way.
Think about that for a minute.
That would mean you get mostly people who would want to be honest.
That's certainly a change from what we've got.
And you get people who would like to balance a budget.
That's certainly new.
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I mean, we could reduce the deficit that way for sure.
